March 31, 2025 • 38 mins
On this version of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew talk about what they loved most and hated most about the weekend. Doug welcomes former coach and current talk show host Dan Dakich onto the show to break down the Final Four. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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We do this every single Monday. We recapped the weekend.
I'm sure Dan, in addition to Hoop, probably watched a
lot of golf. I'm guessing that Jay stew watched a
lot of baseball, and Sam is probably the one guy
who watched the women's tournament. So let's recap what we liked,
what we disliked with a little love and hate.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
God?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I love you and what did you hate these?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Clay hay is.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I love love love? Hey, Hey, Hat what'd you love
for the weekend? Let's start with Dan Byer, Dan, would
you love to speak?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I was almost going to ask can I trade in
my love for two hates? But I'm not going to
do that? And Doug I was wrapped up in yard
work and hoops this weekend, so didn't get the check
out a lot of what happened in Houston on the
PGA Tour. But mine is golf related as Adidas Golf.
In fact, Golf Week has even just put out a
tweet just a few minutes ago showing the new line
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ahead of the Masters. It's always neat to see what
apparel companies and these equipment companies come up with. Taylor
Made always has a special bag for their tour pros
at major championships, and everybody tries to, you know, out
do one another when it comes to the Masters. And
this new line by Adidas a super duper sharp. Now
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maybe you have to be, you know, too Swede to
pull it off as well as Ludwig Olberg does. But
Doug look, but there's not a lot in golf fashion
outside of the lightweight hoodie that I've loved as of late.
But I love some of this. It's very, very classic.
There's just a lot of stuff. I'm not a huge
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fan of the dunks and Jordan's on the course, we're
seeing a lot more of that. I'm not a big
guy with flashy colors, so I'm not a fan of that,
but a nice, understated classic look, one that is very
very sharp, and I don't think I could even pull
it off, but I'm glad to see it come back
in the world of golf.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Nice. Yeah, I'm looking at my Adidas app. We are
in Adida school and this is some nice, nice stuff,
Jay Stu. Something you love from the weekend.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
I love my my friend Aaron who passed away way
too early three years ago. Aaron Charlton. He he was
a statistician, former baseball player turned statistician. A GENI said
what he did. He actually worked with Vince Scully and
your guy Brian Anderson knows him very well. If you
ask Brian right now, send him in tex saying tell
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me about Aaron Charlton. He'll send you a massive text
filled with compliments and platitudes. He died three years ago
of cancer. And every single year around this time since
we have gotten together as friends. Aaron touched a lot
of lives in different different schools and experiences and work
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situations that all of us come together. And now we
have become friends. And we played a round of golf
to celebrate him. To tell stories about him. We include
his father and mother in the mix and my friend
Jeff Jones organizes the entire thing, and the entire day
was fun and emotional and cool and a testament to
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Aaron the person that he brought all of these people
together to celebrate his name.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I love that. It's really really cool, very cool. Okay, Sammy,
what do you got?
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Well, it's funny you brought up women's college basketball, Doug
when we were introducing all of us. I love the
exchange that LSU basketball coach Kim Mulkey had with what
it appears to be a local reporter after yet again
another Big Ten team eliminated LSU from contending for the
Final four. Getting to the Final four, it was UCLA
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and their quiet focused team and not really attention seeking
team taking down LSU and the Elite eight game on Sunday,
and afterward, this local reporter asked Kim Mulkey this question,
and Kim Molkey, being one of one really on this earth,
she had this exchange with the reporter.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Jade and Smith Kalustry sports coaches.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The second straight year, you guys get eliminated in the
Elite eight.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Just yeah, terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
How many final fours you play in?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
None? So it's probably pretty good.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Huh yeah, all.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
Right, what's not to love about this exchange? For a
number of reasons, I think that that young guy, he
kind of slipped up when he maybe he was joking,
but when she said she wanted maybe a little compliment there, like.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Is that good?
Speaker 7 (06:23):
We got to the elite eight, like it's pretty good? But
he said, you know, good or terrible? And he said
that's terrible. I think he was joking. Sounds like he's
a local guy trying to maybe write in and support
the team, but he said terrible, and that drew the
ire and she went immediately for the lowest hanging rotting fruit,
which is how many final fours did you play in?
When many members of the presspool are not former college athletes.
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And of course he just tried to play it off,
but she got a good singer on him. I think
it's a little unfair, but I just think the whole
thing is hilarious because Kim Mulky, she just every year
finds a way to and she's she's she's a waste.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Of time, she's so vile. Well, she's a terrible represent
representative of college basketball. Go away, KIMOCHI can't stand you.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I can't stand you. Her competitiveness. He's obviously a young
dude who fumbled. You know, he just asked her, hey,
the second straight year. He's about to ask her a question.
Then she interrupted, and it's terrible. It's terrible, isn't it terrible?
And then she used it as ammo to make the
guy look like a putts Like, she's awful. I can't
stand her. Everybody at Baylor can't stand her. They were
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so happy to see her go. No, they haven't won
a national championship since she's been gone, but nobody misses her.
She's she's gross. Sorry, she's just gross from her and
we all I don't mind the outfits or the stomping
or whatever. You know. And and by the way, at
some point, it's about the kids, not about you, and
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she makes it all about her. She she is a
caricature of what the man's coaches used to be. It's
what she is. It's it's almost like watching a reality
show where like that's what women's basketball is. Literally, they're
like caricatures. This is not real life. Like Todd Golden's
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who's been a friend of mine forever. Right, he's young, dude,
he actually played in a team that I helped coach.
I mean, Todd Golden is in there and he looks
like he's twelve. He's got a quarter zip on. It's
just like, these are my guys. Like what even even
Bruce Pearl has like dialed it way way back, and
like Kim Molky, it's it's literally like watching theater if
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they were to make fun of what American coaches are,
like basketball coach are, like, she's she's that much over
the top. But it's just again the way you treat people,
you treat reporters like, oh, I got in his zinger?
Why were you set it up?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Do you do you think that? I mean, I just
feel this more and more like.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They're very likely they're very likely the most expensive team
in women's basketball. So again, words matter, I would say,
I mean, look, if I'm doing that question asking, I
would say, she'd say, it's terrible wisdom. It's like, is
that how you would worded? I don't know what your
own personal expectations and did you achieve up to your
own personal expectations? But he didn't do that. He was young,
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he got tight and he just kind of a it's terrible,
and then she eviscerated him.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
I think in her mind she's like, hey, another elite
eight run is something you celebrate and it's not terrible.
She set him up just to maybe vent a little bit,
let out some of.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
There's a zero chance she thinks this is a good thing,
this is a good ending.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Why do we have to walk on eggshells around the
entire sport of women's basketball. That's the problem they complain
about how they're covered all the time. We don't know
how to cover you. How about we meet in the middle.
How about you compromise and try to meet us in
the middle as opposed to always trying to function on
your terms. That was a question that wasn't greatly worded,
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but you understand the sentiment of the question, and you
wanted to embarrass a reporter. That was awful.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Another thing we agree.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Another thing, Doug, I just want to add is that
if you were to just all the people in sports
media and sports, all the sports media a huge tent,
if you were to just have all the people that
never played college sports disappear, you would have a serious
unemployment issue within the industry. I'll just say that. So
a lot of times they're making a tiny, tiny, tiny
fraction of what the coaches and players are making. So
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I just want to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I yes, I mean to ask a.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Reporter how many Final fowards you've been to. It's like
it's just the lowest. It's so low hanging, it's touching
the ground, it's rotting free.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I yeah, I just again, she is a terrible representative
of what elite college basketball coaches are supposed to be like.
And again you go back and you know, protecting Angel
Rees when Angel Rees is acting like an ass when
she's taunting Caitlin Clark a couple of years ago, Like
you're either coaching or allowing it. You're the coaching and
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allowing it. So, okay, something I loved over the weekend.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make any bones about it.
There's still hostages that are being held by Hamas and
uh it. It has not exactly been the easiest year
and a half for Jews in America. I am I
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am Jewish, I am proud of it. And there are
three Jewish head coaches in the Final four, John Shire,
Glenn brook North and he was actually the team I
coached in Israel a couple of years ago. The last
team that went that was a four years ago. He
was supposed to coach and he was named head coach
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of Duke, so he's like, yeah, I can't go to
Israel for a month. John and I have become pretty
close friends. We hit there's we have similar circles and
people in our in our in our circle. Bruce Pearl
has always been great to me. When he got the
job at EAP in Milwaukee, called my dad, some of
his closest friends and allies in Milwaukee or some of
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my closest friends and allies in Milwaukee. And then Todd
Goldens has played at Saint Mary's for Randy Bennett, who's
a dear friend of mine. I've known Todd since he
went to play at Saint Mary's. You know, it's it's
really interesting, right I mean here again, like there's a
lot of weirdness in college basketball, but to have three
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head coaches in the final four, whoever the Jewish faith
is fascinating, fascinating and should be celebrated, and so really
proud of those guys, proud to call him friends and
can only dream of one day having that success. All right,
let's get to what you hated from the weekend. Let's
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start with Jason Stewart. Since you're a resident hater.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
I'm gonna I hate the fact that the Dodgers aren't
getting enough credit. All this talk of torpedo bats, and meanwhile,
the Dodgers. I found this on up the stats. Dodgers
are five to zero. Do anyone know that they've scored
thirty plus runs, They've walked thirty up twenty plus times.
They have ten plus home runs, they have struck out
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fifty five plus people on the hill, they have zero
errors committed, and everyone wants to talk about this stupid
torpedo thing. Give me three or four weeks. The torpedo
bat will be the next threads will be the next
new Coke, will be that thing that was going to
replace the iPod. What is it called the Zulu something stupid,
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it's a fat it's called it was called the zoo ropat.
It's gonna go out of style. But the Dodgers are
dominating the game of baseball through five games.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Dan Byer sent me hate, ah oh man, get in
line things to hate.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I'm gonna say Texas Tech blowing that lead against Florida. Sorry,
I know it was against your buddy Todd Golden, but
you guys get the last laugh with them moving on.
It was my last hope with my bracket, but it's
basically on how it all went down. It concluded a
fourth straight day of just absolute gut punches or shots
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to the you know what, up nine and getting a
stop but unable to get a defensive rebounds with under
three minutes to go. Texas Tech could have sealed the
deal in that scenario. You laid it out earlier, but
for those that missed it up seventy five sixty six
under three minutes to go, Florida hits threes on three
straight possessions after Texas Tech missed bonus free throws and
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the nine point deficit was erased in basically a minute,
and then Clayton Walter Clayton with that step back three
to give him the lead for good. After Texas Tech
finally did score, I mean we harped on Arkansas and
blowing their lead like they did Texas Tech on Thursday.
At least Arkansas was able to make it to an overtime.
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Texas Tech was out of it. Lost by five in regulation,
but up nine with under three minutes to go and
you blow that lead. Unbelievable and what a gut punch
for those of us that had the I had in
Texas Tech in the title game, trying to get think
outside the box and they almost made it to the
final four sans those last three minutes which cost them dearly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Did we talk about burning clock on this show? Is
when I when I only when I hosted The Herd.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I think it was probably The Herd because we were
in for you on Friday. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I heard it on The Herd Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah. So again, Texas Tech, they do a really good job.
Florida does a lot of things with analytics and uh,
you know we call game theory whatever, and we've done
a lot of this obviously. We feel like this year
we were at a talent deficit to our opponents where
when you have a lead, you want to and anybody
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can do it, you want to shorten the game. And
I was really surprised that Tech didn't do it, and
what does that look like? And some of you can
if you search on Twitter, you can find Dusty May
was really upset with his team, I think in the
second round where they didn't kill a two for one.
So you kill a two for one where if the
ball is in the basket with like forty seconds to go,
you let the ball bounce, let the ball bounce, and
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then the guy who's taking the ball in bounds can
then either roll it in bounds or not touch until
he has to you can throw it to a ref
who then gives it back to you. Because the clock
runs in college basketball the entire first half unless there's
a foul or out of bounds, and the second half
until one minute ago. I was surprised that Texas Tech
didn't burn clock when they're up nine. There was no
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you know, you're after the uh after the TV timeout,
So I was surprised that that didn't happen. Something I
hated over the weekend, I I hated the criticism of
Jenni Broom. You know, he went down and tweaked rolled
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his ankle and then looked like he tweaked his elbow,
and then he met he he mentioned it looked like hed,
I'm done, and then you know, a couple a couple
of minutes later, he comes back in the game, checks
in the game and hits a three, and you know,
social media you like, kill a guy for it, when
the reality is that sometimes you freak out when you
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get hurt and you're like, oh my god, I'm really
really hurt, and then you catch your breath, You're like, wait,
everything works. I'm okay. I'm okay, I'm okay. I am okay.
Sam real quickly, real quick.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Dan's gonna roll his eyes at this. But I am
a I am certified bystander citizen on the sidelines watching
other people have a chance to win our FSR pool
when I paid nothing for it to get in. I
still love to compete, and it stinks when you still
have your champion live but you cannot crew enough points
to actually win the pool. Houston is my champion, but
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I don't don't think they're gonna even win it. But
I can no longer win the FSR Producers pool. So
that was my hate. Get best of luck to everyone else, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
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Speaker 2 (18:13):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
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Tournament Roles on Final four is in front of us.
My guy Dan Docketts joins us. He has this radio
show in Indy. Of course he has done at me,
which is on OutKick Double D. You know it's so funny.
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I get people who have reached out to me, like,
so Anthony Royd, my best player, led the country in scoring.
And because one, he only played eleven games this year,
if he wanted to, he could use get a six
year medical red shirt get it back. Or because he
played junior college and Naia for a year, he could
He'll still get one more year. So he put himself
in the transfer port and get people going like are
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you surprised, Like no, he's gonna make like seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars, like surprise. I'm surprised he didn't
do it sooner. I was like, why are you waiting
for it? Like I don't know, I just I don't
want to be like the first guy in or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Hey, I got to tell you the best. I think
this is the best story in college basketball. Preseason player
of the Year in the Missouri Valley is going to
be a kid named Jase Walker. And Jase I think
he got offered a million couple places, and he came
to Illinois State, where my son's at as a four
hundred pound kid, unrecruited eighty. He's gonna be a preseason
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player of the Year. And he turned it all down
and he said, I'm coming back to Illinois State and
people took a chance on me when nobody would. And
I think it's one of the best stories out there.
But we were talking today. Let me ask you a question.
You ready, you're Braden Smith, we're on the street. Was
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he got offered a million last year by a very
high profile team. He's going to get off. But Moy's
broken every record at Purdue. He's not gonna play in
the NBA at least I thing. I'm talking about the
kid at Perdue, one of the top four players for
the nay Smith and all those awards. What would you
think about leaving Purdue or would no? No, no, not
think about Of course you would think about it. Would
you leave Purdue?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I would not.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I wouldn't either. I would wouldn't either.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Your name's going to hang in the Raptors. You led
them to a national championship game. You got a chance
next year you'll be probably a Big Ten Player of
the Year.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
No, me, neither.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I also don't think that he's not he's going
to play professional basketball for the NBA or otherwise. Uh No, Again,
I'm wired differently, and I think, you know, it's really interesting.
One of the reasons Dan, that we recruit international players
and some it probably comes back to bite us, is
that they don't have this yearning in lust for money.
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They just don't because they know that when they're done,
if they don't play it in the States, they're just
going to go back home and play professionally. Like they
have a real understanding of how the world actually works,
whereas here it's like, oh, well, either play in the
NBA or nothing, so go get as much money as
you can. It's like, well, there's lots of other sorts
of basketball, and there's lots of other benefits to staying
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for four or five years at one place. So yeah, no,
I would not, And I again, it all depends on
the kid, right, It's like, look, Anthony Roy had been
here for nine months, you know, and he's somebody who's
a borderline NBA player. I think he'll play overseas for
a long time, you know, for him and he's a
guy who he kind of grew up hard scrabble in Oakland. Like, dude,
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go get paid. Why wouldn't you. He needs to add
to his resume for professional basketball anyway. But that's different
than Braden Smith's starting three years at Purdue. They they
lived with some of the freshmen's mistakes when he was
a freshman, and he more than lived up to any
of their faith as he's played. So yeah, I mean,
and the Chase Walker thing, you know, I know that
really well, and yeah, it's great to see. And look,
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here's the other thing. I have a player who's returning
who I know is way below market value, and he's
just like, coach, I'm happy. I told him what we
were gonna pay him next year. And he's like, awesome, sweet,
how about this one. Wait you'll love this. Okay. He's like,
that's awesome. Now I can go and maybe buy a car.
He's like, but I gotta wait till may. I was like, wait, wait, wait,
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you don't have a car.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
My sister and brother and I we all share a
car and my parents make me leave it at home.
I'm like, okay, well, so yeah, go get a car, dude.
So you can get around town or whatever, take your
girlfriend out of a date. He's like, well, I put
some of my money in a CD and it matures
in May. So he's waiting until May fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I did you not about having a car. Yeah, I'm
in college. I bought a Volkswagen Rabbit. It was a dud.
I go get it fixed. Jamie Brenninger's Brennanger whatever motors.
I forget about it. About two weeks later I called Jamie.
I said, Jamie, man, he got my car. He goes, No,
your brother got it. He picked it up. I said,
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all right. My brother was in law school. I called
my brother. I said, yo, Tom, he was gone spring break,
said I said, well, you got my car. He goes, yeah,
he goes, I picked it up, but I sold it.
I went on spring break. How about that? My brother
is so my own damn car.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's hilarious. That's my point was that they're not all no, no,
they're just not but no. But but a lot of
them are and it sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Hey, everybody here in Indiana is all fired up, like
we you know, we've been in the portal and they've
been bad in terms of putting a team together. So
there's a kid coming. I guess his name is Comwell
or Cromwell. I don't tell you this from uh is
everybody's all excited for the twenty fifth year. We're going
to have it, you know, got to have this great
recruiting class. He's going on his sports school in four years.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't know if I trust it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I don't know what I don't, but I better know
that kid pretty damn well before I'm gonna trust this
kid in his last year? Is he there to make money?
Is he there to win? What are we doing? So? Yeah,
I'm with you man, it's uh not every kid's out there,
but there's enough. They give it a bad rep.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
There's no doubt about that, no question about it. And
uh okay, So what are your feelings about how Kevin
Willard shows to leave Maryland for Villanova?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I'm wrong, But when did Kevin Willard become coach? K
When did he get to be the end all be all?
I would have fired him. I would have fired him.
I don't know who to be the firing. I guess
you'd be the president. But see, my thing is this,
so many coaches talk about player driven ploger, player orient pay.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's great until you're not. And if you were really
concerned with the players, this is their dream, this is
their lifetime going to sweet sixteen.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
You shut up.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You don't bring out your personal problems or whatever problem
you have with the school. Don't tell me you're being
too honest. I think that's crap.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And you know what, I was tough on players. Someone
might say bad, I don't whatever you want to say,
but I always thought, man, this is their thing, this
is their chance, and I don't want to distract from
that's hard. And you know this, it's hard enough winning
a game when everybody's on the same page. I think
what he did was awful. Good for him, he Larry
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Brown did. He got out ahead of the plosse. Maryland's
going to have to figure it out. I text Jay
Ryder said, Man, you East coach guys are crazy all
of a sudden, freaking Kevin Willard is coach k or
Jim Calhoun. He gets a talk like this about his school,
I'd have fired it. I would have.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I would have fired him.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
The minute he did that. If I was a chancellor
to president, I'll screw you. I just don't get I
don't get where he gets his power to do it,
but he must be I must be missing something.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Dan dokins our guest here, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
What's your impression of Duke? Because you know, for so
long Duke was hated fans I think, and some by
other teams. It feels different now, but I don't know
if that's the case. What's your impression of Duke?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know what, man, Duke?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I think Cooper Flag. You know what they always say,
who's going to be the next white dude? Did? Everybody
hates your Duke? Cooper Flag is not it. Cooper Flag
is easy to like. It's the easiest Duke team to like.
I tell you what I think of Duke. I think
the same thing with Duke that I thought back when
they were winning titles we beat when they beat us
in two thousand or two thous whatever it was, ninety three,
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ninety two. I think Duke plays great defense. I think
they're so long that they get off yet they can
use their length of influence shots. They moved their feet.
I think Cooper Flag's the best eighteen year old I've
seen in my life, and I'm including, you know, maybe
not Lebron James, but I think he's better than Lebron
James was. I think that they have a camaraderie. I
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think john Shire has instilled a real toughness. I think
they're the favorite. I haven't I had them winning before
the tournament. I don't know if I really believe that,
but I do now. I think if you played this,
how Doug, if they played a seven game series against
the other three teams and did it one at a time, Okay,
you gotta beat Auburn, then you gotta beat Houston, I
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think they would win the series in under six six
most under six most times. I just think they're that
much better in all areas than everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah. I think they're awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah awesome. Why Why why is Cooper flag likable and
every other dude like Cooper flag at Duke not been likable.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I don't know, but no, Sion was likable too. Who uh? Zion?
Zion Williamson was likable.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
He was like I'm talking, I'm talking New always as
a as a white guy there. But he hates Zion
Williamson very likable. I agree with that, But you know,
Latner hated and you know, I mean, I don't know
who the other guys are, but you know, Ritic hated, uh,
Grayson Allen hated. I'm probably missing you know, woes hated.
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Why is this guy likable because.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
He is very that's a great question. I don't know.
Maybe it's because of how well he played against Team
USA this summer. I really really don't know. I really
don't know. I don't know why JJ was so hateable.
I think it was more the era. I think people
got worn out by coach k and the success. And
remember that was also back when dick by Tal did
(28:48):
all the big games and he just he oh, everything
came back around. Oh you talk about great news, you
talk about Zewski and kivin into stadium, wheah, right, and
everything became so pro Duke that I think, I think
we're just looking for some of the hate. Whereas now,
I don't know, I don't know if if that's the case.
(29:08):
Is this good for the sport that the best of
the best are are noway playing, But it feels like
this is if the landscape continues to be this, this
is how it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I think it was bad for the sport early when
everything was a route. Like people were talking about how
they weren't upsets. I didn't mind that they weren't upsets.
My thing was, these games are routes, actling. I always
go back to two thousand and two when Kent went
to the Elite eight, Indiana beat them, but Indiana had
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hit fifteen threes and they had a senior team. They
beat us. We lost six games, and they beat us
in the championship game, and we had a senior team.
And when Zerbiak went to the Sweet sixteen and ninety
nine they beat us. We had a two seniors that
they were a senior team. I mean, it's like, yeah,
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I don't these games were such routes. Acron got routed,
you know, Liberty which normally got routed, you know, and
San Diego played good. It came back and played pretty well.
Obviously Drake was good. But I just felt like the
first round of the tournament and second the first round
was like, man, you know, because of all the best
players leaving. Yes, you can be good in your league,
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but then it is never going to be the same dog.
It just it's like baseball. Why are the pirates stink? Well,
I don't have payrolls so their best players leaving, they
go to the Yankees or go wherever. You got to
figure out a way to be like the Tampa Bay Rays,
which is you're just smarter than everybody with evaluation. If
you're going to beat well, I'm not I'm telling you.
I mean you're coaching. I'm not. So I feel stupid
(30:46):
telling you. But I didn't think the first round was
good and not but I do think the tournament. I
think these are going to be great games, so kind
of Tom coyle Herd said it right, he said, we
like to see Mercer beat Duke, but in the second round,
we like to see Michigan State play Duke, not Mercer.
So I get it. But I thought the first round
was a bad sign that because they're not senior teams
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at the mid major level, they can't compete on the
biggest of stage.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
How about this one? Howbout this one? I've missed three picks?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Is that right? Because you couldn't talk? Probably right, I
chalk from.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The perspective of nil, like like I had McNeice. I
had McNeice over Clemson because I know McNeice. Yeah, I
don't know what Clemson's budget really is, but I think
it's somewhere south of McNeese, which is just stunning, right,
what they've been able to do at McNeese. So I
just you know, like one of the ones I missed
on was again I went nil. I thought Kansas has
(31:46):
spent more. I knew that team had weird chemistry, but
they lost to Arkansas. That was a close game. I
mean literally three games. It's crazy. And you know, when
you're coaching, I don't watch alf these teams like going
out my own team to worry about. Right, watched less
this year of other of high majors than I ever have.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So how about when you were in the ESPN. I
didn't even know Rick Majeris was at ESPN, Like, uh, people,
what do you mean? I go, I didn't watch Monday
Night twoes. I mean, what are you talking about. I
was too busy geting my ass kicked. I'm too busy
getting practiced. Going, No, I get it. Did you have
Drake because I thought Drake was really good? Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, they're really good. And you know what they were,
they were really old and really good and really well coached.
Yeah they had I mean they Yeah, that that one
was easy. That that one was one that was one
of the few nil upsets, But that one was an
easy one to pick.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I agree. I'm gonna give you something that you tell me.
I worked for Calvin when he was, you know, doing
his thing. I think the best thing ever happened to
Calvin Samson was getting fired Indianna. Oh okay, I think
the best thing he learned how to He was a
good coach. Like people asked me all the time, compare
coach to Night and Samson. It was not even close.
I mean, I I remember being thinking, does this guy
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really know what he's doing? But he did get guys
play hard, all that stuff, and so he was. Don't
get me wrong, he was a successful coach before he
came to Indiana. But what he's doing now, you know,
I really believe. You know, the time he spent maybe away,
the time he spent with popas time he spent bunch
of NBA stuff. You know, very few people you understand
(33:23):
this obviously, but very few people understand how good the
coaching is in the NBA. You know, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So there's one that Calherd said, the other better coaching
in college like you.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
No, not even close. No, not even in the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It's different. It's it's different. It's different. You got to
coach a lot of the A to B and B
two C not know as much as the big things. Dan.
We got to go check out radio show. Also on
out Kickers Go. You're the best devil.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
D Thanks so much, man, Thanks do.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I'm going to get you to Dan byer. Get a
quick update, Danny. What he got.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Doug coming up in the press. I'll have the latest
news from the NFL owners meetings and a tidbit that
will make you and I very very happy. That's coming
up in ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Hey, guys, we're getting raises. We're getting raises.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, gotla chilbox, watch your radio. Dan said, I'm really
gonna like it. So let's get to the press.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The press.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Show me you got a raise.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
NFL League meetings going on, Doug. And it's not a
bump in your paycheck. In fact, it may take a
little bit out of that checking account because the NFL
says teams can wear throwback or alternate uniforms up to
four times in the twenty twenty five season that Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
We're talking to you, Yes, talking to you.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Seahawks as well. I I want to see the next
step and you want the next step to be what
I think is Doug throwback road uniforms. So then you don't.
You can have both teams wearing throwbacks if they play
that weekend, it'd be great.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's the afternoon. I'm in my office. You're turning me on, Okay, turn.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
On a Monday. The Cleveland Browns are completely turned off
by Deshaun Watson, and apparently so is their ownership, as
Brown's owner Jimmy Haslum he and his wife d owning
the Browns. He took full responsibility over the signing of
Watson and the signing of the contract in the trade
that brought him in Cleveland, calling it quote a big
(35:46):
swing and a miss end quote.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, what if you said, my bad, my bad bad.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I think big swing and miss is pretty good. Swinging
a miss. Says that they have to dig out of
the hole they're in because of the trade and then
the contract.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, I mean you think, but I mean listen, just
getting a rich person to admit mistake is a big thing.
Happens very very rarely.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Former, shouldn't say former, Maybe I'm foreshadowing Giants. GM Joe
Shane said they're planning to take the best player available
at number three, but wouldn't rule out a quarterback, saying
the signings of Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston allow them
flexibility at number three.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I do love that, though, Hey, we're gonna take the
best player. Was it that you aren't you supposed to
take the best player available? Right?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Hey, position of need?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
No, I understand, yes, but it is interesting, right, It's
just that interesting way of admitting that the quarterbacks aren't
the best player available.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Former Coltson Panthers said coach Frank Reich will service Stanford's
interim head coach for their football program for the twenty
twenty five season.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Well, of course, frank Reich famously coached Andrew Lucky Andrew
Lucks the GM and like had to fire the previous
head coach, and so Frank Wright gets to riding into
his white horses save.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
The day and yeah, and as a late hire, he's
also going to continue to do his weekly radio show.
So just wanted to say no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Oh that was.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yours, that was you, I know, I know. I was like,
that's cool.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Because he's a late hires behind the eight ball, you know,
taking over the team. Although he's interim you're the full
time gig. Soun's forward, Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
You just don't go to the super Bowl super Bowl
week when you have a day off. Don't do that.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Kevin Durant's going to miss at least a week for
the Suns because of a left ankle sprain. They got
seven games left game and a half back of the
tenth spot in the West.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I honestly, I knew they had sucked recently. I didn't
know they played their way out of the playoffs. Now
no KD.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Finally, hawkscar Trey Young named the assistant GM of the
Oklahoma Sooners men's basketball program, also donating a million dollars
to the school.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's so weird, though, that he gets a job by
donating money and he's assistant to the regional manager. Hey,
it's a good gig if you can get it. All
it takes is a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
That's the press may get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
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We do this every single Monday. We recapped the weekend.
I'm sure Dan, in addition to Hoop, probably watched a
lot of golf. I'm guessing that Jay stew watched a
lot of baseball, and Sam is probably the one guy
who watched the women's tournament. So let's recap what we liked,
what we disliked with a little love and hate.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
God?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I love you and what did you hate these?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Clay hay is.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I love love love? Hey, Hey, Hat what'd you love
for the weekend? Let's start with Dan Byer, Dan, would
you love to speak?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I was almost going to ask can I trade in
my love for two hates? But I'm not going to
do that? And Doug I was wrapped up in yard
work and hoops this weekend, so didn't get the check
out a lot of what happened in Houston on the
PGA Tour. But mine is golf related as Adidas Golf.
In fact, Golf Week has even just put out a
tweet just a few minutes ago showing the new line
(02:34):
ahead of the Masters. It's always neat to see what
apparel companies and these equipment companies come up with. Taylor
Made always has a special bag for their tour pros
at major championships, and everybody tries to, you know, out
do one another when it comes to the Masters. And
this new line by Adidas a super duper sharp. Now
(02:58):
maybe you have to be, you know, too Swede to
pull it off as well as Ludwig Olberg does. But
Doug look, but there's not a lot in golf fashion
outside of the lightweight hoodie that I've loved as of late.
But I love some of this. It's very, very classic.
There's just a lot of stuff. I'm not a huge
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fan of the dunks and Jordan's on the course, we're
seeing a lot more of that. I'm not a big
guy with flashy colors, so I'm not a fan of that,
but a nice, understated classic look, one that is very
very sharp, and I don't think I could even pull
it off, but I'm glad to see it come back
in the world of golf.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Nice. Yeah, I'm looking at my Adidas app. We are
in Adida school and this is some nice, nice stuff,
Jay Stu. Something you love from the weekend.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
I love my my friend Aaron who passed away way
too early three years ago. Aaron Charlton. He he was
a statistician, former baseball player turned statistician. A GENI said
what he did. He actually worked with Vince Scully and
your guy Brian Anderson knows him very well. If you
ask Brian right now, send him in tex saying tell
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me about Aaron Charlton. He'll send you a massive text
filled with compliments and platitudes. He died three years ago
of cancer. And every single year around this time since
we have gotten together as friends. Aaron touched a lot
of lives in different different schools and experiences and work
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situations that all of us come together. And now we
have become friends. And we played a round of golf
to celebrate him. To tell stories about him. We include
his father and mother in the mix and my friend
Jeff Jones organizes the entire thing, and the entire day
was fun and emotional and cool and a testament to
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Aaron the person that he brought all of these people
together to celebrate his name.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I love that. It's really really cool, very cool. Okay, Sammy,
what do you got?
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Well, it's funny you brought up women's college basketball, Doug
when we were introducing all of us. I love the
exchange that LSU basketball coach Kim Mulkey had with what
it appears to be a local reporter after yet again
another Big Ten team eliminated LSU from contending for the
Final four. Getting to the Final four, it was UCLA
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and their quiet focused team and not really attention seeking
team taking down LSU and the Elite eight game on Sunday,
and afterward, this local reporter asked Kim Mulkey this question,
and Kim Molkey, being one of one really on this earth,
she had this exchange with the reporter.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Jade and Smith Kalustry sports coaches.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The second straight year, you guys get eliminated in the
Elite eight.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Just yeah, terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
How many final fours you play in?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
None? So it's probably pretty good.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Huh yeah, all.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
Right, what's not to love about this exchange? For a
number of reasons, I think that that young guy, he
kind of slipped up when he maybe he was joking,
but when she said she wanted maybe a little compliment there, like.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Is that good?
Speaker 7 (06:23):
We got to the elite eight, like it's pretty good? But
he said, you know, good or terrible? And he said
that's terrible. I think he was joking. Sounds like he's
a local guy trying to maybe write in and support
the team, but he said terrible, and that drew the
ire and she went immediately for the lowest hanging rotting fruit,
which is how many final fours did you play in?
When many members of the presspool are not former college athletes.
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And of course he just tried to play it off,
but she got a good singer on him. I think
it's a little unfair, but I just think the whole
thing is hilarious because Kim Mulky, she just every year
finds a way to and she's she's she's a waste.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Of time, she's so vile. Well, she's a terrible represent
representative of college basketball. Go away, KIMOCHI can't stand you.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I can't stand you. Her competitiveness. He's obviously a young
dude who fumbled. You know, he just asked her, hey,
the second straight year. He's about to ask her a question.
Then she interrupted, and it's terrible. It's terrible, isn't it terrible?
And then she used it as ammo to make the
guy look like a putts Like, she's awful. I can't
stand her. Everybody at Baylor can't stand her. They were
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so happy to see her go. No, they haven't won
a national championship since she's been gone, but nobody misses her.
She's she's gross. Sorry, she's just gross from her and
we all I don't mind the outfits or the stomping
or whatever. You know. And and by the way, at
some point, it's about the kids, not about you, and
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she makes it all about her. She she is a
caricature of what the man's coaches used to be. It's
what she is. It's it's almost like watching a reality
show where like that's what women's basketball is. Literally, they're
like caricatures. This is not real life. Like Todd Golden's
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who's been a friend of mine forever. Right, he's young, dude,
he actually played in a team that I helped coach.
I mean, Todd Golden is in there and he looks
like he's twelve. He's got a quarter zip on. It's
just like, these are my guys. Like what even even
Bruce Pearl has like dialed it way way back, and
like Kim Molky, it's it's literally like watching theater if
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they were to make fun of what American coaches are,
like basketball coach are, like, she's she's that much over
the top. But it's just again the way you treat people,
you treat reporters like, oh, I got in his zinger?
Why were you set it up?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Do you do you think that? I mean, I just
feel this more and more like.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They're very likely they're very likely the most expensive team
in women's basketball. So again, words matter, I would say,
I mean, look, if I'm doing that question asking, I
would say, she'd say, it's terrible wisdom. It's like, is
that how you would worded? I don't know what your
own personal expectations and did you achieve up to your
own personal expectations? But he didn't do that. He was young,
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he got tight and he just kind of a it's terrible,
and then she eviscerated him.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
I think in her mind she's like, hey, another elite
eight run is something you celebrate and it's not terrible.
She set him up just to maybe vent a little bit,
let out some of.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
There's a zero chance she thinks this is a good thing,
this is a good ending.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Why do we have to walk on eggshells around the
entire sport of women's basketball. That's the problem they complain
about how they're covered all the time. We don't know
how to cover you. How about we meet in the middle.
How about you compromise and try to meet us in
the middle as opposed to always trying to function on
your terms. That was a question that wasn't greatly worded,
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but you understand the sentiment of the question, and you
wanted to embarrass a reporter. That was awful.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Another thing we agree.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Another thing, Doug, I just want to add is that
if you were to just all the people in sports
media and sports, all the sports media a huge tent,
if you were to just have all the people that
never played college sports disappear, you would have a serious
unemployment issue within the industry. I'll just say that. So
a lot of times they're making a tiny, tiny, tiny
fraction of what the coaches and players are making. So
(10:30):
I just want to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I yes, I mean to ask a.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Reporter how many Final fowards you've been to. It's like
it's just the lowest. It's so low hanging, it's touching
the ground, it's rotting free.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I yeah, I just again, she is a terrible representative
of what elite college basketball coaches are supposed to be like.
And again you go back and you know, protecting Angel
Rees when Angel Rees is acting like an ass when
she's taunting Caitlin Clark a couple of years ago, Like
you're either coaching or allowing it. You're the coaching and
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allowing it. So, okay, something I loved over the weekend.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make any bones about it.
There's still hostages that are being held by Hamas and
uh it. It has not exactly been the easiest year
and a half for Jews in America. I am I
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am Jewish, I am proud of it. And there are
three Jewish head coaches in the Final four, John Shire,
Glenn brook North and he was actually the team I
coached in Israel a couple of years ago. The last
team that went that was a four years ago. He
was supposed to coach and he was named head coach
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of Duke, so he's like, yeah, I can't go to
Israel for a month. John and I have become pretty
close friends. We hit there's we have similar circles and
people in our in our in our circle. Bruce Pearl
has always been great to me. When he got the
job at EAP in Milwaukee, called my dad, some of
his closest friends and allies in Milwaukee or some of
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my closest friends and allies in Milwaukee. And then Todd
Goldens has played at Saint Mary's for Randy Bennett, who's
a dear friend of mine. I've known Todd since he
went to play at Saint Mary's. You know, it's it's
really interesting, right I mean here again, like there's a
lot of weirdness in college basketball, but to have three
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head coaches in the final four, whoever the Jewish faith
is fascinating, fascinating and should be celebrated, and so really
proud of those guys, proud to call him friends and
can only dream of one day having that success. All right,
let's get to what you hated from the weekend. Let's
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start with Jason Stewart. Since you're a resident hater.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
I'm gonna I hate the fact that the Dodgers aren't
getting enough credit. All this talk of torpedo bats, and meanwhile,
the Dodgers. I found this on up the stats. Dodgers
are five to zero. Do anyone know that they've scored
thirty plus runs, They've walked thirty up twenty plus times.
They have ten plus home runs, they have struck out
(13:19):
fifty five plus people on the hill, they have zero
errors committed, and everyone wants to talk about this stupid
torpedo thing. Give me three or four weeks. The torpedo
bat will be the next threads will be the next
new Coke, will be that thing that was going to
replace the iPod. What is it called the Zulu something stupid,
(13:40):
it's a fat it's called it was called the zoo ropat.
It's gonna go out of style. But the Dodgers are
dominating the game of baseball through five games.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Dan Byer sent me hate, ah oh man, get in
line things to hate.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I'm gonna say Texas Tech blowing that lead against Florida. Sorry,
I know it was against your buddy Todd Golden, but
you guys get the last laugh with them moving on.
It was my last hope with my bracket, but it's
basically on how it all went down. It concluded a
fourth straight day of just absolute gut punches or shots
(14:17):
to the you know what, up nine and getting a
stop but unable to get a defensive rebounds with under
three minutes to go. Texas Tech could have sealed the
deal in that scenario. You laid it out earlier, but
for those that missed it up seventy five sixty six
under three minutes to go, Florida hits threes on three
straight possessions after Texas Tech missed bonus free throws and
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the nine point deficit was erased in basically a minute,
and then Clayton Walter Clayton with that step back three
to give him the lead for good. After Texas Tech
finally did score, I mean we harped on Arkansas and
blowing their lead like they did Texas Tech on Thursday.
At least Arkansas was able to make it to an overtime.
(15:04):
Texas Tech was out of it. Lost by five in regulation,
but up nine with under three minutes to go and
you blow that lead. Unbelievable and what a gut punch
for those of us that had the I had in
Texas Tech in the title game, trying to get think
outside the box and they almost made it to the
final four sans those last three minutes which cost them dearly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Did we talk about burning clock on this show? Is
when I when I only when I hosted The Herd.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I think it was probably The Herd because we were
in for you on Friday. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I heard it on The Herd Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah. So again, Texas Tech, they do a really good job.
Florida does a lot of things with analytics and uh,
you know we call game theory whatever, and we've done
a lot of this obviously. We feel like this year
we were at a talent deficit to our opponents where
when you have a lead, you want to and anybody
(15:57):
can do it, you want to shorten the game. And
I was really surprised that Tech didn't do it, and
what does that look like? And some of you can
if you search on Twitter, you can find Dusty May
was really upset with his team, I think in the
second round where they didn't kill a two for one.
So you kill a two for one where if the
ball is in the basket with like forty seconds to go,
you let the ball bounce, let the ball bounce, and
(16:19):
then the guy who's taking the ball in bounds can
then either roll it in bounds or not touch until
he has to you can throw it to a ref
who then gives it back to you. Because the clock
runs in college basketball the entire first half unless there's
a foul or out of bounds, and the second half
until one minute ago. I was surprised that Texas Tech
didn't burn clock when they're up nine. There was no
(16:42):
you know, you're after the uh after the TV timeout,
So I was surprised that that didn't happen. Something I
hated over the weekend, I I hated the criticism of
Jenni Broom. You know, he went down and tweaked rolled
(17:05):
his ankle and then looked like he tweaked his elbow,
and then he met he he mentioned it looked like hed,
I'm done, and then you know, a couple a couple
of minutes later, he comes back in the game, checks
in the game and hits a three, and you know,
social media you like, kill a guy for it, when
the reality is that sometimes you freak out when you
(17:25):
get hurt and you're like, oh my god, I'm really
really hurt, and then you catch your breath, You're like, wait,
everything works. I'm okay. I'm okay, I'm okay. I am okay.
Sam real quickly, real quick.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Dan's gonna roll his eyes at this. But I am
a I am certified bystander citizen on the sidelines watching
other people have a chance to win our FSR pool
when I paid nothing for it to get in. I
still love to compete, and it stinks when you still
have your champion live but you cannot crew enough points
to actually win the pool. Houston is my champion, but
(18:02):
I don't don't think they're gonna even win it. But
I can no longer win the FSR Producers pool. So
that was my hate. Get best of luck to everyone else, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
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Speaker 2 (18:13):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
Live Stug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. NCAA
Tournament Roles on Final four is in front of us.
My guy Dan Docketts joins us. He has this radio
show in Indy. Of course he has done at me,
which is on OutKick Double D. You know it's so funny.
(18:45):
I get people who have reached out to me, like,
so Anthony Royd, my best player, led the country in scoring.
And because one, he only played eleven games this year,
if he wanted to, he could use get a six
year medical red shirt get it back. Or because he
played junior college and Naia for a year, he could
He'll still get one more year. So he put himself
in the transfer port and get people going like are
(19:06):
you surprised, Like no, he's gonna make like seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars, like surprise. I'm surprised he didn't
do it sooner. I was like, why are you waiting
for it? Like I don't know, I just I don't
want to be like the first guy in or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Hey, I got to tell you the best. I think
this is the best story in college basketball. Preseason player
of the Year in the Missouri Valley is going to
be a kid named Jase Walker. And Jase I think
he got offered a million couple places, and he came
to Illinois State, where my son's at as a four
hundred pound kid, unrecruited eighty. He's gonna be a preseason
(19:44):
player of the Year. And he turned it all down
and he said, I'm coming back to Illinois State and
people took a chance on me when nobody would. And
I think it's one of the best stories out there.
But we were talking today. Let me ask you a question.
You ready, you're Braden Smith, we're on the street. Was
(20:04):
he got offered a million last year by a very
high profile team. He's going to get off. But Moy's
broken every record at Purdue. He's not gonna play in
the NBA at least I thing. I'm talking about the
kid at Perdue, one of the top four players for
the nay Smith and all those awards. What would you
think about leaving Purdue or would no? No, no, not
think about Of course you would think about it. Would
you leave Purdue?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I would not.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I wouldn't either. I would wouldn't either.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Your name's going to hang in the Raptors. You led
them to a national championship game. You got a chance
next year you'll be probably a Big Ten Player of
the Year.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
No, me, neither.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I also don't think that he's not he's going
to play professional basketball for the NBA or otherwise. Uh No, Again,
I'm wired differently, and I think, you know, it's really interesting.
One of the reasons Dan, that we recruit international players
and some it probably comes back to bite us, is
that they don't have this yearning in lust for money.
(21:02):
They just don't because they know that when they're done,
if they don't play it in the States, they're just
going to go back home and play professionally. Like they
have a real understanding of how the world actually works,
whereas here it's like, oh, well, either play in the
NBA or nothing, so go get as much money as
you can. It's like, well, there's lots of other sorts
of basketball, and there's lots of other benefits to staying
(21:24):
for four or five years at one place. So yeah, no,
I would not, And I again, it all depends on
the kid, right, It's like, look, Anthony Roy had been
here for nine months, you know, and he's somebody who's
a borderline NBA player. I think he'll play overseas for
a long time, you know, for him and he's a
guy who he kind of grew up hard scrabble in Oakland. Like, dude,
(21:47):
go get paid. Why wouldn't you. He needs to add
to his resume for professional basketball anyway. But that's different
than Braden Smith's starting three years at Purdue. They they
lived with some of the freshmen's mistakes when he was
a freshman, and he more than lived up to any
of their faith as he's played. So yeah, I mean,
and the Chase Walker thing, you know, I know that
really well, and yeah, it's great to see. And look,
(22:10):
here's the other thing. I have a player who's returning
who I know is way below market value, and he's
just like, coach, I'm happy. I told him what we
were gonna pay him next year. And he's like, awesome, sweet,
how about this one. Wait you'll love this. Okay. He's like,
that's awesome. Now I can go and maybe buy a car.
He's like, but I gotta wait till may. I was like, wait, wait, wait,
(22:31):
you don't have a car.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
My sister and brother and I we all share a
car and my parents make me leave it at home.
I'm like, okay, well, so yeah, go get a car, dude.
So you can get around town or whatever, take your
girlfriend out of a date. He's like, well, I put
some of my money in a CD and it matures
in May. So he's waiting until May fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I did you not about having a car. Yeah, I'm
in college. I bought a Volkswagen Rabbit. It was a dud.
I go get it fixed. Jamie Brenninger's Brennanger whatever motors.
I forget about it. About two weeks later I called Jamie.
I said, Jamie, man, he got my car. He goes, No,
your brother got it. He picked it up. I said,
(23:20):
all right. My brother was in law school. I called
my brother. I said, yo, Tom, he was gone spring break,
said I said, well, you got my car. He goes, yeah,
he goes, I picked it up, but I sold it.
I went on spring break. How about that? My brother
is so my own damn car.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's hilarious. That's my point was that they're not all no, no,
they're just not but no. But but a lot of
them are and it sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Hey, everybody here in Indiana is all fired up, like
we you know, we've been in the portal and they've
been bad in terms of putting a team together. So
there's a kid coming. I guess his name is Comwell
or Cromwell. I don't tell you this from uh is
everybody's all excited for the twenty fifth year. We're going
to have it, you know, got to have this great
recruiting class. He's going on his sports school in four years.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't know if I trust it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I don't know what I don't, but I better know
that kid pretty damn well before I'm gonna trust this
kid in his last year? Is he there to make money?
Is he there to win? What are we doing? So? Yeah,
I'm with you man, it's uh not every kid's out there,
but there's enough. They give it a bad rep.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
There's no doubt about that, no question about it. And
uh okay, So what are your feelings about how Kevin
Willard shows to leave Maryland for Villanova?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I'm wrong, But when did Kevin Willard become coach? K
When did he get to be the end all be all?
I would have fired him. I would have fired him.
I don't know who to be the firing. I guess
you'd be the president. But see, my thing is this,
so many coaches talk about player driven ploger, player orient pay.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's great until you're not. And if you were really
concerned with the players, this is their dream, this is
their lifetime going to sweet sixteen.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
You shut up.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You don't bring out your personal problems or whatever problem
you have with the school. Don't tell me you're being
too honest. I think that's crap.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And you know what, I was tough on players. Someone
might say bad, I don't whatever you want to say,
but I always thought, man, this is their thing, this
is their chance, and I don't want to distract from
that's hard. And you know this, it's hard enough winning
a game when everybody's on the same page. I think
what he did was awful. Good for him, he Larry
(25:38):
Brown did. He got out ahead of the plosse. Maryland's
going to have to figure it out. I text Jay
Ryder said, Man, you East coach guys are crazy all
of a sudden, freaking Kevin Willard is coach k or
Jim Calhoun. He gets a talk like this about his school,
I'd have fired it. I would have.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I would have fired him.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
The minute he did that. If I was a chancellor
to president, I'll screw you. I just don't get I
don't get where he gets his power to do it,
but he must be I must be missing something.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Dan dokins our guest here, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
What's your impression of Duke? Because you know, for so
long Duke was hated fans I think, and some by
other teams. It feels different now, but I don't know
if that's the case. What's your impression of Duke?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know what, man, Duke?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I think Cooper Flag. You know what they always say,
who's going to be the next white dude? Did? Everybody
hates your Duke? Cooper Flag is not it. Cooper Flag
is easy to like. It's the easiest Duke team to like.
I tell you what I think of Duke. I think
the same thing with Duke that I thought back when
they were winning titles we beat when they beat us
in two thousand or two thous whatever it was, ninety three,
(26:54):
ninety two. I think Duke plays great defense. I think
they're so long that they get off yet they can
use their length of influence shots. They moved their feet.
I think Cooper Flag's the best eighteen year old I've
seen in my life, and I'm including, you know, maybe
not Lebron James, but I think he's better than Lebron
James was. I think that they have a camaraderie. I
(27:15):
think john Shire has instilled a real toughness. I think
they're the favorite. I haven't I had them winning before
the tournament. I don't know if I really believe that,
but I do now. I think if you played this,
how Doug, if they played a seven game series against
the other three teams and did it one at a time, Okay,
you gotta beat Auburn, then you gotta beat Houston, I
(27:35):
think they would win the series in under six six
most under six most times. I just think they're that
much better in all areas than everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah. I think they're awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah awesome. Why Why why is Cooper flag likable and
every other dude like Cooper flag at Duke not been likable.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I don't know, but no, Sion was likable too. Who uh? Zion?
Zion Williamson was likable.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
He was like I'm talking, I'm talking New always as
a as a white guy there. But he hates Zion
Williamson very likable. I agree with that, But you know,
Latner hated and you know, I mean, I don't know
who the other guys are, but you know, Ritic hated, uh,
Grayson Allen hated. I'm probably missing you know, woes hated.
(28:25):
Why is this guy likable because.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
He is very that's a great question. I don't know.
Maybe it's because of how well he played against Team
USA this summer. I really really don't know. I really
don't know. I don't know why JJ was so hateable.
I think it was more the era. I think people
got worn out by coach k and the success. And
remember that was also back when dick by Tal did
(28:48):
all the big games and he just he oh, everything
came back around. Oh you talk about great news, you
talk about Zewski and kivin into stadium, wheah, right, and
everything became so pro Duke that I think, I think
we're just looking for some of the hate. Whereas now,
I don't know, I don't know if if that's the case.
(29:08):
Is this good for the sport that the best of
the best are are noway playing, But it feels like
this is if the landscape continues to be this, this
is how it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I think it was bad for the sport early when
everything was a route. Like people were talking about how
they weren't upsets. I didn't mind that they weren't upsets.
My thing was, these games are routes, actling. I always
go back to two thousand and two when Kent went
to the Elite eight, Indiana beat them, but Indiana had
(29:40):
hit fifteen threes and they had a senior team. They
beat us. We lost six games, and they beat us
in the championship game, and we had a senior team.
And when Zerbiak went to the Sweet sixteen and ninety
nine they beat us. We had a two seniors that
they were a senior team. I mean, it's like, yeah,
(30:01):
I don't these games were such routes. Acron got routed,
you know, Liberty which normally got routed, you know, and
San Diego played good. It came back and played pretty well.
Obviously Drake was good. But I just felt like the
first round of the tournament and second the first round
was like, man, you know, because of all the best
players leaving. Yes, you can be good in your league,
(30:24):
but then it is never going to be the same dog.
It just it's like baseball. Why are the pirates stink? Well,
I don't have payrolls so their best players leaving, they
go to the Yankees or go wherever. You got to
figure out a way to be like the Tampa Bay Rays,
which is you're just smarter than everybody with evaluation. If
you're going to beat well, I'm not I'm telling you.
I mean you're coaching. I'm not. So I feel stupid
(30:46):
telling you. But I didn't think the first round was
good and not but I do think the tournament. I
think these are going to be great games, so kind
of Tom coyle Herd said it right, he said, we
like to see Mercer beat Duke, but in the second round,
we like to see Michigan State play Duke, not Mercer.
So I get it. But I thought the first round
was a bad sign that because they're not senior teams
(31:09):
at the mid major level, they can't compete on the
biggest of stage.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
How about this one? Howbout this one? I've missed three picks?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Is that right? Because you couldn't talk? Probably right, I
chalk from.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The perspective of nil, like like I had McNeice. I
had McNeice over Clemson because I know McNeice. Yeah, I
don't know what Clemson's budget really is, but I think
it's somewhere south of McNeese, which is just stunning, right,
what they've been able to do at McNeese. So I
just you know, like one of the ones I missed
on was again I went nil. I thought Kansas has
(31:46):
spent more. I knew that team had weird chemistry, but
they lost to Arkansas. That was a close game. I
mean literally three games. It's crazy. And you know, when
you're coaching, I don't watch alf these teams like going
out my own team to worry about. Right, watched less
this year of other of high majors than I ever have.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So how about when you were in the ESPN. I
didn't even know Rick Majeris was at ESPN, Like, uh, people,
what do you mean? I go, I didn't watch Monday
Night twoes. I mean, what are you talking about. I
was too busy geting my ass kicked. I'm too busy
getting practiced. Going, No, I get it. Did you have
Drake because I thought Drake was really good? Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, they're really good. And you know what they were,
they were really old and really good and really well coached.
Yeah they had I mean they Yeah, that that one
was easy. That that one was one that was one
of the few nil upsets, But that one was an
easy one to pick.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I agree. I'm gonna give you something that you tell me.
I worked for Calvin when he was, you know, doing
his thing. I think the best thing ever happened to
Calvin Samson was getting fired Indianna. Oh okay, I think
the best thing he learned how to He was a
good coach. Like people asked me all the time, compare
coach to Night and Samson. It was not even close.
I mean, I I remember being thinking, does this guy
(33:02):
really know what he's doing? But he did get guys
play hard, all that stuff, and so he was. Don't
get me wrong, he was a successful coach before he
came to Indiana. But what he's doing now, you know,
I really believe. You know, the time he spent maybe away,
the time he spent with popas time he spent bunch
of NBA stuff. You know, very few people you understand
(33:23):
this obviously, but very few people understand how good the
coaching is in the NBA. You know, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So there's one that Calherd said, the other better coaching
in college like you.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
No, not even close. No, not even in the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It's different. It's it's different. It's different. You got to
coach a lot of the A to B and B
two C not know as much as the big things. Dan.
We got to go check out radio show. Also on
out Kickers Go. You're the best devil.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
D Thanks so much, man, Thanks do.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I'm going to get you to Dan byer. Get a
quick update, Danny. What he got.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Doug coming up in the press. I'll have the latest
news from the NFL owners meetings and a tidbit that
will make you and I very very happy. That's coming
up in ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Hey, guys, we're getting raises. We're getting raises.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, gotla chilbox, watch your radio. Dan said, I'm really
gonna like it. So let's get to the press.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The press.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Show me you got a raise.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
NFL League meetings going on, Doug. And it's not a
bump in your paycheck. In fact, it may take a
little bit out of that checking account because the NFL
says teams can wear throwback or alternate uniforms up to
four times in the twenty twenty five season that Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
We're talking to you, Yes, talking to you.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Seahawks as well. I I want to see the next
step and you want the next step to be what
I think is Doug throwback road uniforms. So then you don't.
You can have both teams wearing throwbacks if they play
that weekend, it'd be great.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's the afternoon. I'm in my office. You're turning me on, Okay, turn.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
On a Monday. The Cleveland Browns are completely turned off
by Deshaun Watson, and apparently so is their ownership, as
Brown's owner Jimmy Haslum he and his wife d owning
the Browns. He took full responsibility over the signing of
Watson and the signing of the contract in the trade
that brought him in Cleveland, calling it quote a big
(35:46):
swing and a miss end quote.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, what if you said, my bad, my bad bad.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I think big swing and miss is pretty good. Swinging
a miss. Says that they have to dig out of
the hole they're in because of the trade and then
the contract.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, I mean you think, but I mean listen, just
getting a rich person to admit mistake is a big thing.
Happens very very rarely.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Former, shouldn't say former, Maybe I'm foreshadowing Giants. GM Joe
Shane said they're planning to take the best player available
at number three, but wouldn't rule out a quarterback, saying
the signings of Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston allow them
flexibility at number three.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I do love that, though, Hey, we're gonna take the
best player. Was it that you aren't you supposed to
take the best player available? Right?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Hey, position of need?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
No, I understand, yes, but it is interesting, right, It's
just that interesting way of admitting that the quarterbacks aren't
the best player available.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Former Coltson Panthers said coach Frank Reich will service Stanford's
interim head coach for their football program for the twenty
twenty five season.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Well, of course, frank Reich famously coached Andrew Lucky Andrew
Lucks the GM and like had to fire the previous
head coach, and so Frank Wright gets to riding into
his white horses save.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
The day and yeah, and as a late hire, he's
also going to continue to do his weekly radio show.
So just wanted to say no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Oh that was.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yours, that was you, I know, I know. I was like,
that's cool.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Because he's a late hires behind the eight ball, you know,
taking over the team. Although he's interim you're the full
time gig. Soun's forward, Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
You just don't go to the super Bowl super Bowl
week when you have a day off. Don't do that.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Kevin Durant's going to miss at least a week for
the Suns because of a left ankle sprain. They got
seven games left game and a half back of the
tenth spot in the West.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I honestly, I knew they had sucked recently. I didn't
know they played their way out of the playoffs. Now
no KD.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Finally, hawkscar Trey Young named the assistant GM of the
Oklahoma Sooners men's basketball program, also donating a million dollars
to the school.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's so weird, though, that he gets a job by
donating money and he's assistant to the regional manager. Hey,
it's a good gig if you can get it. All
it takes is a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
That's the press may get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
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