March 31, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug wraps up the weekend of college basketball as the Final Four is now set, and explains why the Madness has been taken away from March. Doug weighs in on the Torpedo bat controversy. Doug welcomes college basketball analyst and former coach Steve Lappas onto the show to break down the Final Four. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal, or No Deal".
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't hate to say I told you so, but
I'm gonna say I told you so. So I'm gonna
go to a little bit. I guess I have all
four final four teams correctly. I miss three picks in
the entire NCAA tournament. And for the record, I'm again
I'm the radio host just like as a basketball coach,
I'm gonna be the most honest guy in America. I've
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watched less high major basketball this year than ever in
the twenty five years since I played college basketball. I
watch it. It's on. We got it one in my office.
I have it on at my house. I'll watch it
on my computer. There's a company called Synergy, which most
people in my coaching business we live by, which is
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you can pull up and watch any collegiate or professional
player ever everywhere in anything. They do possessions, pick and rolls,
catch and shoot, jump shots, defensive possessions, whatever you want.
So I watch Synergy all the time, but I don't.
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I I've watched Auburn play two or three times. I
watched Duke play three or four times. I've watched Florida
play two or three times. Houston I've seen play a
good amount because being a Big twelve alum, I watched
Big twelve basketball. But I can't tell you that I've
watched anybody. I watched every possession of Duke basketball. I can.
But I'm my own team to coach, and yet I
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picked why well because they're the mixture of really well coached,
really well supported a ton of nil money. And then yeah,
the matchups I guess work for. Don't get me wrong.
Texas Tech had Florida dead to rights beat. Okay, up ten? No, uh,
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Texas Tech had Florida dead to rights beat in the
Elite eight. You know they're they're up ten with five
and changed to go and they lost that game. And
and look, Florida made I want to say, four, maybe five,
I have straight threes. They intentionally fouled Texas Tech twice
with a lot of time remaining, kind of playing the
analytics game. One time they filed Darren Williams, who's they
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didn't want to file. He's eight percent, but he missed
the front of a one to one. Then they fouled
Topp And who's a sixty percent free throw shooter. The
analytic rules are below sixty five percent. You foul once
you get in the one on one bonus. That's what
they That's what it says. That's what the book says.
So Florida did a lot, but Florida's got an awesome team.
Florida's got an expensive team. Florida's been a three year
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build for Todd Golden, and I picked Florida and I've
I've never had this much success in the bracket and
I get it, Like if you go back a couple
of years ago, we had Florida Atlantic and San Diego State,
Like that wasn't a great final four either because he
was the variance. It was so much the other way
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in terms of the Cinderella. But this is it's really interesting.
Everything that we told you and even the NCAA told
you would happen if you went for if you went
to what's basically you want to call it, a free
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market system, completely unregulated free market, ultimate capitalism system has happened.
It's fascinating to me. You get people who I'll just
pick on Jay Billis, who's worked for and as I
say all the time, j Billis is a friend of mine,
but he always wants to point out that the portal
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is always open for college coaches. Yeah, because they have
two three, four five million AR buyouts where if you
want to switch schools, and it happens in terms of
coach going from one school to the next, right, it happens,
I don't know, probably twenty five to thirty times per year.
There's three hundred and sixty four schools in Division one basketball,
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So less than ten percent of the time, Probably five
percent of the time a sitting head coach at a
high major level takes a sitting sitting like you're talking
about five or six that's what happens. But probably five
percent of time, maybe less, does a sitting head coach
of a high major school take a sitting head coaching job,
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take an open head coaching job at a high major school.
And yet in the portal we have over twelve hundred
players I believe currently in the portal. Remember three hundred
and sixty teams. There's thirteen scholarships on a team. You
do the math in terms of percentage of players that
are leaving, and they leave year after year after year
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after year, and there's no buyout, there's no clause to
keep them there. They none none. But everything they told you,
and what happened was there are people who work in
the media who work in the NJ's one of them.
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But there are plenty of people who laughed when they said, hey,
if we if we open up ATIL, it will kill
competitive balance in college athletics. And the only reason it
didn't kill competitive balance in college football, well one it
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really did was two They didn't have all the SEC
teams in the College FOOTBA Playoffs, which they should have
if they were searching for the twelve best teams, right.
I mean, you could say whatever you want about the
NCAA tournament and how it was previously. Every tournament, every
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playoffs is different unto itself. March Madness is known as
much for the Cinderella as it is for who actually
wins the national championship. And we used to say all
the time, it's a way to decide a champion, because
there's the randomness of it. But it's a style of
selecting a champion that everybody likes. The bracket and the
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upsets what everybody likes. Now does that mean you always
watch after an upset? You don't. But from Sister Jean
to Brad Stevenson Butler, to VCU to George Basin to
Saint Peter's to Herald the Show Arsenal to le High
beating Duke, these are things that, if the current climate continues,
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will never happen again, never happen again. And they literally
told you, like everybody kills the NCAAA kills them. And
don't get me wrong, I work for an NCAA school Hey,
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there are dumb rules. I'll give you one. I just
had a player visit here. He literally is just concluding
his visit. He's an unbelievable kid. We think he's a
really good player. We think he's a really good fit.
He'd never been to Green Bay, Wisconsin before. I am
not allowed to buy a cheesehead and leave it on
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his bed in his hotel room and say, hey, become
a cheesehead, come join us in Green Bay. It is
against the NCAA rules. It is not against the NCAA
rules for me to pay him money. I could pay
him ten million dollars if I had ten million dollars,
ten million dollars for him to come to player, but
you know I can't do I cannot leave a cheesehead
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on his bed. That makes no sense. So there's lots
of things the NCAA has done. And the NCAA, by
the way, is a collection of schools that have voting rights.
So that's all it is. When we say like we
act like there's this, it's big brother always wants you. Really,
it's just your member institutions. And the problem is that
I think we've said this before. It's more like the
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Senate than is the House of Representatives. That you have
schools with a fraction of the budget. We have the
same voting rights in the NCAA as the university was consinant.
Madison University's continent Madison matters more, makes more money. It's
almost it's sort of different than the sport that we're playing,
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especially financially, so that can be remedied. So I'm not
telling you that everything the NCAA, the collection of schools
vote upon rules they've had makes a whole hell of
a lot of sense, because there's a lot of old
rules that they got unwind with with the new rules
and how they're working. But but you can go through
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all of our hosts on Fox Sports Radio, you can
go to any of the stations, you can go to
all the TV shows, and by and large, outside of
the show, they scoffed. They laughed at the idea that
opening it up an il, which is really pay for
play to all the schools would kill a competitive balance.
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Kill competitive balance. Google it if you don't believe me.
There's articles written in like the NCAA A what a
phony defense. It won't kill competitive balance, it makes it
so anybody can compete no, it doesn't, No, it doesn't.
Anybody can compete who has a ton of money, ton
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of money, And if you don't have the players that
you want, that's okay. You wait till this time of
year and somebody else who's put there put all their
effort into helping a player become a star. Then they
lose their players with no ramifications, no no buy out,
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no non compete clause, no transfer sit out rule. So
if you don't have to sit out when you transfer,
if you can transfer up and then remember now, you guys,
there's plenty of guys that are getting an extra year
because they played Juco or Naia because of one player's lawsuit.
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If that is the case, and the highest bidder gets
the best players, no more Saint Peter's, no more UNBC,
no more Green Bay beating cow back when Jeff Norgard
took down Jason Kidd. Could you win a game? Yeah?
I think you can win a game. You know, the
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winner of our league, Robert Morris. They got a tough draw.
They gave Alabama a good game. If they weren't, they
weren't a fifteen seed, if they if they worked their way,
if we can find a way to get to a
thirteen seed. I think a Horizon League team could definitely
win a game in the end it to get to
the Final four, as Lula Chicago did, as VCU did,
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at George Mason did, as Butler did two times in
a row. No chance, not happening. Can you win a game.
You can win a game. You catch a team when
they lose a player, you catch a team that has
bad chemistry of the year. You catch a team that,
especially a high major team where everybody knows, everybody's leaving,
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and you were fine but not necessarily good. So you
got you know, a four or five seed. Can you
beat him? Sure? But four games, no shot. None. At
some point somebody outside of me is going to say this,
if you laughed at the NCAA, NCAA saying that opening
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up pay for play, which is what NIL truly is.
If you open it up to you with didn't have
any sort of you know, barriers or restrictions that it
would kill competitive balance. It is on you over the
next week to post on social media I was wrong.
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
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Speaker 1 (13:21):
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The new Torpedo bats drew attention with the Yankees hit
a record nine homers that traveled combined three thousand, six
hundred and ninety five feet on Saturday alone, using a
strikingly different model in which the wood is moved lower
down the barrel after the label and shapes at the
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end a little like it's kind of like a bowling pin, right,
bowling pin. So it's going to be super, super fascinating.
But the reality is, we don't have we don't have
a control group here with the Yankees against the Brewers
this weekend. And this is a very small sample size, right,
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small sample size, so it's hard to tell, but people
are freaking out, I mean freaking out about these bats.
Wasn't there a j stew Wasn't there a bat a
couple of years ago that people started that has a
different handle? Oh man, And instead of the knob handle, it's, oh,
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the ax bat. They have the they have like the
axe handle, right, And it was really interesting and it
was big and there's actually I know they have aluminum
bats or seramon bats made by ax Bad Company. Uh
do we know for a fact that this is basically
what it does is it changes the sweet spot of
the bat, right what what used to be when you
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get kind of a broken bats thingle Now they feel
like it's a line drive. Correct, that's the that's the
theory of it. Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Basically yep.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I mean pitching is going to have to adjust and
we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And by the way, uh, buyer knows the details on this.
I think the Brewers just gave up four runs in
the first and into the Royals. So are we going
to discount that the Brewers pitching sucks? I mean so
many things could could account for all those home runs.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And by the way, baseball has advanced scouting. If guys
are hitting home runs off the barrel, they'll start pitching
to the barrel. It's counterintuitive to the way baseball has
been taught for one hundred and forty years. But start
pitching to the barrel now and see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Fairpoint? Byer, Do you think they're illegal or should be
made illegal?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, first things first, for the record, the Brewers gave
up three runs in the first inning and then another
in the second. Jason, so you i'n ripped the Brewers,
get your facts straight. It wasn't four all in the first.
There were only three in the first, and then the
Royals tacked on another in the second inning. I find
it interesting. I think that the whole point that Jason
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makes about them working around it is fair. I looked
at it from a Gulf perspective, where it almost feels
like it's a game improvement club where pros will where
you know, we'll have blades clubs because they can work
it and they can do so much with it. But
a guy like me needs a bigger club face with
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a bigger sweet spot, so my shots go straighter and further,
even though I'm not getting that great contact, and I
don't think that the best in the game will need it.
I don't know. It's not every Yankee that's doing this, right.
I know Volpe is one of them, but so I
don't I think it's just a fad for the first
week of the season.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Doug.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I don't think it's anything egregious or should be illegal.
I was surprise that it was legal, Like I'm like, oh,
you can do that. I'm surprised we haven't had that
at some point, but I am taking a wait and
see approach on this.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. We'll
get back to that later on the show. He is
my former partner in crime. We used to we used
to do games of CBS the CBS fors network, and
it was the coach and the player and we had
so much fun. He's Steve Lapis. He joins us now
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now I get the coach coach, but I still you know,
we'd still go at it if we're calling games this
weekend as we were. We just we see some things
the same, some things everything. How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I'm doing great, Doug? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I'm good. I did follow up with that text that
you asked me about, and I'll update you v a
text after after we get off. You've been doing this
a long time. What are your thoughts on what seemed
like a bit of a formality in terms of who
is going to advance in the first week get level
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on the second weekend as opposed to years in the past.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You know what, Doug, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
I thought midway through the year that this was a
pretty wide open thing. It wasn't gonna be like like
last year when you kind of knew it was gonna
Yukon and Purdue. They stood out above everybody else. I
guess the only reason I didn't figure that out was
because I guess there were four teams that stood out
well above everybody else, and that's what we have. So
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it's a little surprising. But then you know, this is
the first year where I think, and I hope this
is not.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
An indication of where.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
NIL is taking us. It may be, but the first year,
so you can't make a definitive, you know, summation yet
of is this what's gonna happen because of Nil? But
it definitely is the first step that needs to be
looked at in terms of we have all this chalk.
The games were not great. Let's face there were a
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lot of uh even in the LIE eight we had
like I had that Houston Detaz game, which was you know,
I didn't expect to be like that, I can tell you. So, yeah,
I think we're an interesting time now in college basketball.
We have the four best team playing, which would be
a great final four.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
No, it should be a great final four. But I mean, look,
you were a victim to an upset when you were
at Villanova, right, Uh, it happens. It didn't happen this year.
There literally was it. Just there was no Cinderella. There's
a lot. Do you think if we if we stay
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at with the current structure of ni L, does the
Cinderella go away?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What, and I'm just not as privy to it as
you are. But you're a coach and you do the
radio with this. Is this revenue sharing gonna help any
of the lower level teams?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Let's fake this.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
You know, for years and years and years, why were
the Yankees the best team in baseball? Because there were
no rules or whoever had the most money, you can
get the best players, and they won every year and
you know, fitting with the Boston Celtics when they were
on top every year. So if nothing's gonna happen, and
the big boys are always going to be able to
outspend the little and the reason why the little guys
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were able to stay in there at times was because
they'd have older guys.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Now those older mid major players.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Aren't there because they're leaving his sophomores once they prove
they can play, and they're going to the big levels.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
But now you have these mid major teams that play
with young guys.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Now they have no chance in that situation. Well you
used to give a chance before they have some upperclassmen.
Now if you're a good upperclassman to the major level,
you probably left.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah. No, it's it's it's crazy. I mean, and look,
we got to celebrate it. My my best player, Anthony
Royd led the country in scoring yep, because uh what
won I mean broke his ankle this year so he
could get a six year but also so he played
in juco basketball. It just there's no way in which
we could compensate him financially to level he's going to
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be compensated. So you know, it's like I got to
celebrate that that he's going to go and have a
just a great, great opportunity somewhere else. Uh Meanwhile, there's
just no way I can compete, like, and I can't
tell him to hey, dude, I need you to take
you know, five six hundred thousand dollars less money next year,
because because we got a good thing and you can
score a lot of buckets here, Like that's just not
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the reality of it. What what's the unifier between all
of these teams? There's four teams. They've been really good
all year. Obviously they have good players to good coaches.
But you know, as a coach and you've done this,
you know this has been your entire professional life. What's
the Is there a unifying thing that all of these
teams do? Well?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
You know, they're all very good defense, let's say that,
but and they all are pretty good offensively to including Houston.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, most people look.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
At Uston and say, oh, you know what I mean,
they're great defense, but their offense.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Now, their offense is not bad. I mean, they had
the tenth ranked offense in the country.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
So it seems like these four teams have a great
combination of both offense and defense. And I know that
sounds crazy, but in the past, we've had teams make
a Final Four that were great in one thing and
we're okay in the other thing.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
It seems like these.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Fourteen and one might be a little better defensively, this
one better offense lift but all four can do both.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's a great point. Stug otleb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Can you imagine being in this place as
a coach right where I mean, pick any of your
years where all of a sudden at the end of
the year, you have to go and get a new team,
negotiate with your current team, recruit your current team, and
then go out and get another team. And you can
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recruit guys you played against. You can recruit pretty much
anybody once in the portal, but you have to negotiate
with them. Can you imagine being in no you.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Know, God bless you that you're doing this now, and
my son wants to do it.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
You know, I don't know why, but.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
You know, it's to think about the fact that you know,
you've got.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
To build a team every year.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
The thing that I used to love was watching guys developed.
Now the development process is between.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
June and.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
You know, February or March of the following year, and
that's it because you may not have one guy back.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I mean, you look at.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
You look at the teams that are alive.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
You look at this. We had one team over the weekend.
I don't know who.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
They lost nine players.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
They oh Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Kentucky had nine new guys, the top nine scorers for
all one year transfers that just came in that's amazing,
and I would have trouble with that. And that's got
to be the adjustment to having a new team every year,
because I remember when I had freshman it would drive
me nuts in practice the things I had the concert.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Out every day every day just to get them going.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
And now imagine doing this every year. And I understand
you're getting some older guys, but it's your system and
what you're doing that would drive me nuts.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
That's the part that would kill me the most having
a new team every year.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Is there is there a reason that the Big ten
has gone this long without winning a national championship.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Man, I get asked that all the time, And you.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Know what the amazing thing, Doug is They've.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Had so many teams make the tournament every year. They
didn't get Big eight nine every year and what we
think are some really good teams during the season, and
then nobody gets to mean to think that they haven't
won it since two thousand and you know a lot
of times people talk about the style of the league,
maybe it's too much of a defensive league and there's
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not enough people a.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Contract on offense. But you know, you had Wisconsin this year.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
They were concentrated on offenses.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
ISO runs as much as anybody in the country. I
don't know, I'd like to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I don't have a reason when you think about the
regular seasons that they have that they haven't been able
to win one championship in twenty five years. I think
it's one of the most incredible things.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I do too. I also think we become you know,
Purdue got to the national championship game last year. I
mean it's and and Yukon was really really good. I
do think that that by and large, they don't have
that league has not had great guard play great it is.
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And in order to win that league, you have to
be brewly physical and big inside. Right you look at
I mean, look at what Purdue has been, what Michigan
was this year. You know, Illinois last year had great
success running kind of five out. They just kind of
gave up a thirty zero run to Yukon and lost
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in the tournament. But but but to win that league,
you have to be unbelievably inside and have to have
just you know, really two or three because of foul trouble,
big guys that can play out of that league. People
don't necessarily play that way. You just have to rebound, defend.
But most people play with fours and fives that can
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shoot the ball from the perimeter, and it's what it
takes to be successful in the Big Ten, more oftentimes
than not, is not what it takes to be successful
outside of the Big Big Ten. That would be my
that'd be my easiest guess. But again that's just a
guest coach, because they have had teams in the Final
four and and heck, Michigan with that Trey Burke team
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probably could have won the game against Louisville if tough
for a couple of calls here there.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Well, you know what, Doug, I think that's a that's
a great guess about what it could be. And the
one thing I will say is when I go see
the teams in the ACC, I got the ACC in
the SEC and the Big Twelve, I'm kind of looking
at a different level of athlete.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I think too.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
It just seems like, obviously the ACC is down, the
Duke is tremendous. I just think that the SDC and
the Big Twelve, for the most part as a league,
are more athletic, and uh, you know, I don't know
if that's made a difference, but the part thought the
guards is definitely true and you need them to win.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
I mean, look at Florida. I mean, this kid Clayton
is like what he does at the end of the game.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I said it the other day when I saw him.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
This guy's like Steph Curry.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
I mean, he mean what he does shooting the ball,
getting tough shots, getting them off quickly, getting them off
in crowds, really tough.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, how about the how about the shot where he
got the rebound and dribbles out and just jumps up
and shoots it like it's a feb three on three tournament.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
And he can rise up with the best of them.
He's got great legs and he can go straight up
in the air like you know, very few people can.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Steve lapis Is joined us year on the Doug Outlib
Show on Fox Sports. Trader of course, you coach at Villanova.
Still friendly with everybody at Villanova. Kevin Willer's the who
head coach ch at Villanova, And there was just kind
of this weird process over the last week and a
half or so where the Villanova's job was open, and
then all of a sudden there was some other names,
and it felt like it was his job. And then
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he kind of refused to answer his ad leaves and
goes to SMU, what are your thoughts on how that
all went down?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
You know, it's unfortunate when these things go down like this,
you know, I thought, and I was able to witness
almost first hand the both ways of doing it, because
we had Will Wade in the region when we were
in Providence last week, and he was very upfront.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, I've been talking. He didn't deny anything.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I was talking to Providence and everybody.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We knew when we were doing the game that he
was leaving the next day if they lost, and obviously
he did. And then Kevin he's trying to kind of
like not.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Say that, but you know, everybody's surmising this because why
is Villanova And he got kind of stuck in a
tough spot because you have Villanova. How could they not
be talking to somebody those champ or portals open unless
they have who they want. Well, all the other names
that came out were ont.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Of the tournament.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
For Moser was out of Chris Collins was out, Richard
Patino was out, and they still didn't have a coach
and then everybody said they gotta be going for Kevin
Willard and obviously that was what was going on. So
it was kind of a hard situation as people got
knocked out. It was hot, you know, everybody knew they
were looking at Kevin, and that's what happened. And I
think I think they did great. I mean, they obviously
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had to go outside the family, which hadn't happened since
nineteen seventy one. And they got a guy who's been
one of the big East, one of the Big ten,
and I think they.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Hit a home run.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, what is that like to go outside the family? Right?
You know you and Ral, you know, working for Raleigh
and then he got Jay Wright? What what what is
that like? Did like do they all clear it with you? Like, Hey,
we're gonna go outside the family? Is there like a
text chain? How does that all work?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Well, they might have cleared it with Jay. They certainly
didn't clear with Mitty, but you know, the one thing
about the place, and you know, I tried to do
this and Jay did it, which was keep all those
guys involved, Like you know, Kevin doesn't.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Have a connection to those guys. In nineteen eighty five
and won the championship.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
You know, So for the first time since nineteen seventy,
you know, Villanova's gonna have a head coach who's a
terrific head coach, but doesn't have that connection, that long
term connection that's kind of always been there because even
when Kyle Neptune was the head coach, Roly's guys felt
part of him because he was a Jay guy, so
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he was a Villanova guy. Now, for the first time,
that's not going to be there, and I think that's
going to be a challenge for Kevin to connect to
have to maintain that connection to those guys because me
and Jay we worked really at Roy, worked very hard
at keeping the past together and but we were there
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so we knew it all.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Kevin doesn't know all these guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
He's probably mean, I just heard of some of them,
but he doesn't know them. So that's gonna be a
challenge for him connecting that pass, which is I think
big at Villanova.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Okay, so here's the big question. Where's Harriet letting you
go play golf. Where's your first golf trip that you
get to go play. What's once this thing is done?
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Well, I'm just gonna be playing it overbrook and down
at the shore for now. We're playing a trip maybe
to Arizona in September, but right now it's just gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I got two clubs, Doug. I think that's enough.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Get two clubs. What clubs I mean?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I got oh oh, oh oh.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Two cutry guys. I thought. I thought, you're like, yeah,
I'm playing seven iron and putter. I was like, man,
this guy is nasty with the seven iron if it's
seven iron putter, Like I'd like to walk around with
just the seven iron putter, but no I could.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
But I am depione. I could get away with a driver,
a three wood in a wedge, and I tell people.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I'm the only guy that.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Regrips his three wood three times of the year. That
tells you what I need on my second shot, Like
all the time I.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Hit a threew off the tea because I can't hit the
driver off the tee. Hey, we got to play sometime
in the meantime. Kudos to you and Andrew. You guys
are awesome together, and thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
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like my dad, like my late father. Like New Yorker
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Speaker 3 (34:38):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show Show.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Dan Byer, what do you got, my friend, Doug?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You touched on this earlier big deal, little deal or
no deal that Green Bay Phoenix star Anthony Roy is
now in the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
For now, for me, for him, for what.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
It's your show, Doug.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think it's a big deal. I think you know,
we took a guy who came from Naia basketball, and
my job is to get get our players their first
great job. Doesn't matter if you're working at Green Bay Packaging,
if you're working at Titletown Tech, or if you're playing
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the G League, the NBA or playing for another college.
And I succeeded, he's gonna get a lot of money.
He'll he'll make more money in college basketball than he
would if he was the first round, my first second
round draft pick in the NBA, without any question. So
I mean, not an unexpected deal, but I'm I'm gonna
be happy for it when we find the right place
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and he's let me work with him. You know, there's
no I mean it wasn't like I was surprised by it.
I just I think he's very realistic with his expectation.
He's handling his business his way. And here's the guy
who struggled academically and he's now in the dean's listening.
He's gonna graduate on time here in the spring. So
big deal for him, big deal for college basketball, big
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deal for us that we're doing what we're supposed to do,
which is when a guy can make way more money
than we can pay him, we help him get on
his way.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
All right, Doug, big deal, A little deal of no
deal that Kevin Willard ultimately did leave for Villanova. I
think it's I think.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's a big deal. I just do you know, there
was a period of time where he was struggling at
Seaton Hall. And we've seen other coaches struggle at Seaton
Hall because they just they don't have the resources. Now
in Nil, it's it's big because you know, Maryland likes
to think of themselves as you know, next to college
basketball is kind of elite. You know, they're not duke,
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but they're kind of that step below. And to have
a have a guy leave, what would in their minds
be a parallel move got to leave you scratch your head.
I think it's a big deal, big.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Deal, big deal, little deal or no deal that Kevin
Durant will miss at least a week for the Suns
because of an ankle injury.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
He's still gonna play in the playoffs, so it's snuby deal.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Well, they may not make the playoffs. There are a
game and a half out right now.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, yeah, that thing has crashed and burned pretty bad. Huh.
I knew they were losing recently. I didn't realize it
was that bad. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I may have played his final game with the Suns,
depending on because there's.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Lots of talk of him. And then did Nick write
he said keep it eyeing the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I still don't understand why he didn't just accept the
trade to the Warriors. That's so weird.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
But that tracks right, Yes, big deal, little deal of
no deal.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Doug.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
That there seems to be enough support in the NFL
to ban the tush push.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Feels like a big deal, right because it's like we
got to like, go, oh, hey, you can't push it now.
That is a rule you're not supposed to push, but
people do it all the time. But the fact that
it's like one play that the Eagles have now won
a Super On went to another super On. Yeah, the
energy towards it makes it a big deal.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Finally, Doug, big deal, little deal, an old deal that
Aaron Rodgers had a throwing session with DK metcalf of
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Uh, little deal, little deal. I'm starting to buy into
this conspiracy theory that he's going to announce on Pat
McAfee's show in a week right, he has some live
show or something in Pittsburgh. I think that's what happens.
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't hate to say I told you so, but
I'm gonna say I told you so. So I'm gonna
go to a little bit. I guess I have all
four final four teams correctly. I miss three picks in
the entire NCAA tournament. And for the record, I'm again
I'm the radio host just like as a basketball coach,
I'm gonna be the most honest guy in America. I've
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watched less high major basketball this year than ever in
the twenty five years since I played college basketball. I
watch it. It's on. We got it one in my office.
I have it on at my house. I'll watch it
on my computer. There's a company called Synergy, which most
people in my coaching business we live by, which is
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you can pull up and watch any collegiate or professional
player ever everywhere in anything. They do possessions, pick and rolls,
catch and shoot, jump shots, defensive possessions, whatever you want.
So I watch Synergy all the time, but I don't.
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I I've watched Auburn play two or three times. I
watched Duke play three or four times. I've watched Florida
play two or three times. Houston I've seen play a
good amount because being a Big twelve alum, I watched
Big twelve basketball. But I can't tell you that I've
watched anybody. I watched every possession of Duke basketball. I can.
But I'm my own team to coach, and yet I
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picked why well because they're the mixture of really well coached,
really well supported a ton of nil money. And then yeah,
the matchups I guess work for. Don't get me wrong.
Texas Tech had Florida dead to rights beat. Okay, up ten? No, uh,
(02:46):
Texas Tech had Florida dead to rights beat in the
Elite eight. You know they're they're up ten with five
and changed to go and they lost that game. And
and look, Florida made I want to say, four, maybe five,
I have straight threes. They intentionally fouled Texas Tech twice
with a lot of time remaining, kind of playing the
analytics game. One time they filed Darren Williams, who's they
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didn't want to file. He's eight percent, but he missed
the front of a one to one. Then they fouled
Topp And who's a sixty percent free throw shooter. The
analytic rules are below sixty five percent. You foul once
you get in the one on one bonus. That's what
they That's what it says. That's what the book says.
So Florida did a lot, but Florida's got an awesome team.
Florida's got an expensive team. Florida's been a three year
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build for Todd Golden, and I picked Florida and I've
I've never had this much success in the bracket and
I get it, Like if you go back a couple
of years ago, we had Florida Atlantic and San Diego State,
Like that wasn't a great final four either because he
was the variance. It was so much the other way
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in terms of the Cinderella. But this is it's really interesting.
Everything that we told you and even the NCAA told
you would happen if you went for if you went
to what's basically you want to call it, a free
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market system, completely unregulated free market, ultimate capitalism system has happened.
It's fascinating to me. You get people who I'll just
pick on Jay Billis, who's worked for and as I
say all the time, j Billis is a friend of mine,
but he always wants to point out that the portal
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is always open for college coaches. Yeah, because they have
two three, four five million AR buyouts where if you
want to switch schools, and it happens in terms of
coach going from one school to the next, right, it happens,
I don't know, probably twenty five to thirty times per year.
There's three hundred and sixty four schools in Division one basketball,
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So less than ten percent of the time, Probably five
percent of the time a sitting head coach at a
high major level takes a sitting sitting like you're talking
about five or six that's what happens. But probably five
percent of time, maybe less, does a sitting head coach
of a high major school take a sitting head coaching job,
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take an open head coaching job at a high major school.
And yet in the portal we have over twelve hundred
players I believe currently in the portal. Remember three hundred
and sixty teams. There's thirteen scholarships on a team. You
do the math in terms of percentage of players that
are leaving, and they leave year after year after year
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after year, and there's no buyout, there's no clause to
keep them there. They none none. But everything they told you,
and what happened was there are people who work in
the media who work in the NJ's one of them.
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But there are plenty of people who laughed when they said, hey,
if we if we open up ATIL, it will kill
competitive balance in college athletics. And the only reason it
didn't kill competitive balance in college football, well one it
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really did was two They didn't have all the SEC
teams in the College FOOTBA Playoffs, which they should have
if they were searching for the twelve best teams, right.
I mean, you could say whatever you want about the
NCAA tournament and how it was previously. Every tournament, every
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playoffs is different unto itself. March Madness is known as
much for the Cinderella as it is for who actually
wins the national championship. And we used to say all
the time, it's a way to decide a champion, because
there's the randomness of it. But it's a style of
selecting a champion that everybody likes. The bracket and the
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upsets what everybody likes. Now does that mean you always
watch after an upset? You don't. But from Sister Jean
to Brad Stevenson Butler, to VCU to George Basin to
Saint Peter's to Herald the Show Arsenal to le High
beating Duke, these are things that, if the current climate continues,
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will never happen again, never happen again. And they literally
told you, like everybody kills the NCAAA kills them. And
don't get me wrong, I work for an NCAA school Hey,
(08:00):
there are dumb rules. I'll give you one. I just
had a player visit here. He literally is just concluding
his visit. He's an unbelievable kid. We think he's a
really good player. We think he's a really good fit.
He'd never been to Green Bay, Wisconsin before. I am
not allowed to buy a cheesehead and leave it on
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his bed in his hotel room and say, hey, become
a cheesehead, come join us in Green Bay. It is
against the NCAA rules. It is not against the NCAA
rules for me to pay him money. I could pay
him ten million dollars if I had ten million dollars,
ten million dollars for him to come to player, but
you know I can't do I cannot leave a cheesehead
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on his bed. That makes no sense. So there's lots
of things the NCAA has done. And the NCAA, by
the way, is a collection of schools that have voting rights.
So that's all it is. When we say like we
act like there's this, it's big brother always wants you. Really,
it's just your member institutions. And the problem is that
I think we've said this before. It's more like the
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Senate than is the House of Representatives. That you have
schools with a fraction of the budget. We have the
same voting rights in the NCAA as the university was consinant.
Madison University's continent Madison matters more, makes more money. It's
almost it's sort of different than the sport that we're playing,
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especially financially, so that can be remedied. So I'm not
telling you that everything the NCAA, the collection of schools
vote upon rules they've had makes a whole hell of
a lot of sense, because there's a lot of old
rules that they got unwind with with the new rules
and how they're working. But but you can go through
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all of our hosts on Fox Sports Radio, you can
go to any of the stations, you can go to
all the TV shows, and by and large, outside of
the show, they scoffed. They laughed at the idea that
opening it up an il, which is really pay for
play to all the schools would kill a competitive balance.
(10:14):
Kill competitive balance. Google it if you don't believe me.
There's articles written in like the NCAA A what a
phony defense. It won't kill competitive balance, it makes it
so anybody can compete no, it doesn't, No, it doesn't.
Anybody can compete who has a ton of money, ton
(10:38):
of money, And if you don't have the players that
you want, that's okay. You wait till this time of
year and somebody else who's put there put all their
effort into helping a player become a star. Then they
lose their players with no ramifications, no no buy out,
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no non compete clause, no transfer sit out rule. So
if you don't have to sit out when you transfer,
if you can transfer up and then remember now, you guys,
there's plenty of guys that are getting an extra year
because they played Juco or Naia because of one player's lawsuit.
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If that is the case, and the highest bidder gets
the best players, no more Saint Peter's, no more UNBC,
no more Green Bay beating cow back when Jeff Norgard
took down Jason Kidd. Could you win a game? Yeah?
I think you can win a game. You know, the
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winner of our league, Robert Morris. They got a tough draw.
They gave Alabama a good game. If they weren't, they
weren't a fifteen seed, if they if they worked their way,
if we can find a way to get to a
thirteen seed. I think a Horizon League team could definitely
win a game in the end it to get to
the Final four, as Lula Chicago did, as VCU did,
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at George Mason did, as Butler did two times in
a row. No chance, not happening. Can you win a game.
You can win a game. You catch a team when
they lose a player, you catch a team that has
bad chemistry of the year. You catch a team that,
especially a high major team where everybody knows, everybody's leaving,
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and you were fine but not necessarily good. So you
got you know, a four or five seed. Can you
beat him? Sure? But four games, no shot. None. At
some point somebody outside of me is going to say this,
if you laughed at the NCAA, NCAA saying that opening
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up pay for play, which is what NIL truly is.
If you open it up to you with didn't have
any sort of you know, barriers or restrictions that it
would kill competitive balance. It is on you over the
next week to post on social media I was wrong.
I was wrong.
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The new Torpedo bats drew attention with the Yankees hit
a record nine homers that traveled combined three thousand, six
hundred and ninety five feet on Saturday alone, using a
strikingly different model in which the wood is moved lower
down the barrel after the label and shapes at the
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end a little like it's kind of like a bowling pin, right,
bowling pin. So it's going to be super, super fascinating.
But the reality is, we don't have we don't have
a control group here with the Yankees against the Brewers
this weekend. And this is a very small sample size, right,
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small sample size, so it's hard to tell, but people
are freaking out, I mean freaking out about these bats.
Wasn't there a j stew Wasn't there a bat a
couple of years ago that people started that has a
different handle? Oh man, And instead of the knob handle, it's, oh,
(14:37):
the ax bat. They have the they have like the
axe handle, right, And it was really interesting and it
was big and there's actually I know they have aluminum
bats or seramon bats made by ax Bad Company. Uh
do we know for a fact that this is basically
what it does is it changes the sweet spot of
the bat, right what what used to be when you
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get kind of a broken bats thingle Now they feel
like it's a line drive. Correct, that's the that's the
theory of it. Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Basically yep.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I mean pitching is going to have to adjust and
we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And by the way, uh, buyer knows the details on this.
I think the Brewers just gave up four runs in
the first and into the Royals. So are we going
to discount that the Brewers pitching sucks? I mean so
many things could could account for all those home runs.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And by the way, baseball has advanced scouting. If guys
are hitting home runs off the barrel, they'll start pitching
to the barrel. It's counterintuitive to the way baseball has
been taught for one hundred and forty years. But start
pitching to the barrel now and see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Fairpoint? Byer, Do you think they're illegal or should be
made illegal?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, first things first, for the record, the Brewers gave
up three runs in the first inning and then another
in the second. Jason, so you i'n ripped the Brewers,
get your facts straight. It wasn't four all in the first.
There were only three in the first, and then the
Royals tacked on another in the second inning. I find
it interesting. I think that the whole point that Jason
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makes about them working around it is fair. I looked
at it from a Gulf perspective, where it almost feels
like it's a game improvement club where pros will where
you know, we'll have blades clubs because they can work
it and they can do so much with it. But
a guy like me needs a bigger club face with
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a bigger sweet spot, so my shots go straighter and further,
even though I'm not getting that great contact, and I
don't think that the best in the game will need it.
I don't know. It's not every Yankee that's doing this, right.
I know Volpe is one of them, but so I
don't I think it's just a fad for the first
week of the season.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Doug.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I don't think it's anything egregious or should be illegal.
I was surprise that it was legal, Like I'm like, oh,
you can do that. I'm surprised we haven't had that
at some point, but I am taking a wait and
see approach on this.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. We'll
get back to that later on the show. He is
my former partner in crime. We used to we used
to do games of CBS the CBS fors network, and
it was the coach and the player and we had
so much fun. He's Steve Lapis. He joins us now
(17:28):
now I get the coach coach, but I still you know,
we'd still go at it if we're calling games this
weekend as we were. We just we see some things
the same, some things everything. How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I'm doing great, Doug? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I'm good. I did follow up with that text that
you asked me about, and I'll update you v a
text after after we get off. You've been doing this
a long time. What are your thoughts on what seemed
like a bit of a formality in terms of who
is going to advance in the first week get level
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on the second weekend as opposed to years in the past.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You know what, Doug, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
I thought midway through the year that this was a
pretty wide open thing. It wasn't gonna be like like
last year when you kind of knew it was gonna
Yukon and Purdue. They stood out above everybody else. I
guess the only reason I didn't figure that out was
because I guess there were four teams that stood out
well above everybody else, and that's what we have. So
(18:32):
it's a little surprising. But then you know, this is
the first year where I think, and I hope this
is not.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
An indication of where.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
NIL is taking us. It may be, but the first year,
so you can't make a definitive, you know, summation yet
of is this what's gonna happen because of Nil? But
it definitely is the first step that needs to be
looked at in terms of we have all this chalk.
The games were not great. Let's face there were a
(19:01):
lot of uh even in the LIE eight we had
like I had that Houston Detaz game, which was you know,
I didn't expect to be like that, I can tell you. So, yeah,
I think we're an interesting time now in college basketball.
We have the four best team playing, which would be
a great final four.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
No, it should be a great final four. But I mean, look,
you were a victim to an upset when you were
at Villanova, right, Uh, it happens. It didn't happen this year.
There literally was it. Just there was no Cinderella. There's
a lot. Do you think if we if we stay
(19:40):
at with the current structure of ni L, does the
Cinderella go away?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What, and I'm just not as privy to it as
you are. But you're a coach and you do the
radio with this. Is this revenue sharing gonna help any
of the lower level teams?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Let's fake this.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
You know, for years and years and years, why were
the Yankees the best team in baseball? Because there were
no rules or whoever had the most money, you can
get the best players, and they won every year and
you know, fitting with the Boston Celtics when they were
on top every year. So if nothing's gonna happen, and
the big boys are always going to be able to
outspend the little and the reason why the little guys
(20:21):
were able to stay in there at times was because
they'd have older guys.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Now those older mid major players.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Aren't there because they're leaving his sophomores once they prove
they can play, and they're going to the big levels.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
But now you have these mid major teams that play
with young guys.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Now they have no chance in that situation. Well you
used to give a chance before they have some upperclassmen.
Now if you're a good upperclassman to the major level,
you probably left.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah. No, it's it's it's crazy. I mean, and look,
we got to celebrate it. My my best player, Anthony
Royd led the country in scoring yep, because uh what
won I mean broke his ankle this year so he
could get a six year but also so he played
in juco basketball. It just there's no way in which
we could compensate him financially to level he's going to
(21:08):
be compensated. So you know, it's like I got to
celebrate that that he's going to go and have a
just a great, great opportunity somewhere else. Uh Meanwhile, there's
just no way I can compete, like, and I can't
tell him to hey, dude, I need you to take
you know, five six hundred thousand dollars less money next year,
because because we got a good thing and you can
score a lot of buckets here, Like that's just not
(21:29):
the reality of it. What what's the unifier between all
of these teams? There's four teams. They've been really good
all year. Obviously they have good players to good coaches.
But you know, as a coach and you've done this,
you know this has been your entire professional life. What's
the Is there a unifying thing that all of these
teams do? Well?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
You know, they're all very good defense, let's say that,
but and they all are pretty good offensively to including Houston.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, most people look.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
At Uston and say, oh, you know what I mean,
they're great defense, but their offense.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Now, their offense is not bad. I mean, they had
the tenth ranked offense in the country.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
So it seems like these four teams have a great
combination of both offense and defense. And I know that
sounds crazy, but in the past, we've had teams make
a Final Four that were great in one thing and
we're okay in the other thing.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
It seems like these.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Fourteen and one might be a little better defensively, this
one better offense lift but all four can do both.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's a great point. Stug otleb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Can you imagine being in this place as
a coach right where I mean, pick any of your
years where all of a sudden at the end of
the year, you have to go and get a new team,
negotiate with your current team, recruit your current team, and
then go out and get another team. And you can
(22:51):
recruit guys you played against. You can recruit pretty much
anybody once in the portal, but you have to negotiate
with them. Can you imagine being in no you.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Know, God bless you that you're doing this now, and
my son wants to do it.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
You know, I don't know why, but.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
You know, it's to think about the fact that you know,
you've got.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
To build a team every year.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
The thing that I used to love was watching guys developed.
Now the development process is between.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
June and.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
You know, February or March of the following year, and
that's it because you may not have one guy back.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I mean, you look at.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
You look at the teams that are alive.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
You look at this. We had one team over the weekend.
I don't know who.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
They lost nine players.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
They oh Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Kentucky had nine new guys, the top nine scorers for
all one year transfers that just came in that's amazing,
and I would have trouble with that. And that's got
to be the adjustment to having a new team every year,
because I remember when I had freshman it would drive
me nuts in practice the things I had the concert.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Out every day every day just to get them going.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
And now imagine doing this every year. And I understand
you're getting some older guys, but it's your system and
what you're doing that would drive me nuts.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
That's the part that would kill me the most having
a new team every year.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Is there is there a reason that the Big ten
has gone this long without winning a national championship.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Man, I get asked that all the time, And you.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Know what the amazing thing, Doug is They've.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Had so many teams make the tournament every year. They
didn't get Big eight nine every year and what we
think are some really good teams during the season, and
then nobody gets to mean to think that they haven't
won it since two thousand and you know a lot
of times people talk about the style of the league,
maybe it's too much of a defensive league and there's
(24:49):
not enough people a.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Contract on offense. But you know, you had Wisconsin this year.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
They were concentrated on offenses.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
ISO runs as much as anybody in the country. I
don't know, I'd like to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I don't have a reason when you think about the
regular seasons that they have that they haven't been able
to win one championship in twenty five years. I think
it's one of the most incredible things.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I do too. I also think we become you know,
Purdue got to the national championship game last year. I
mean it's and and Yukon was really really good. I
do think that that by and large, they don't have
that league has not had great guard play great it is.
(25:31):
And in order to win that league, you have to
be brewly physical and big inside. Right you look at
I mean, look at what Purdue has been, what Michigan
was this year. You know, Illinois last year had great
success running kind of five out. They just kind of
gave up a thirty zero run to Yukon and lost
(25:52):
in the tournament. But but but to win that league,
you have to be unbelievably inside and have to have
just you know, really two or three because of foul trouble,
big guys that can play out of that league. People
don't necessarily play that way. You just have to rebound, defend.
But most people play with fours and fives that can
(26:13):
shoot the ball from the perimeter, and it's what it
takes to be successful in the Big Ten, more oftentimes
than not, is not what it takes to be successful
outside of the Big Big Ten. That would be my
that'd be my easiest guess. But again that's just a
guest coach, because they have had teams in the Final
four and and heck, Michigan with that Trey Burke team
(26:35):
probably could have won the game against Louisville if tough
for a couple of calls here there.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Well, you know what, Doug, I think that's a that's
a great guess about what it could be. And the
one thing I will say is when I go see
the teams in the ACC, I got the ACC in
the SEC and the Big Twelve, I'm kind of looking
at a different level of athlete.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I think too.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
It just seems like, obviously the ACC is down, the
Duke is tremendous. I just think that the SDC and
the Big Twelve, for the most part as a league,
are more athletic, and uh, you know, I don't know
if that's made a difference, but the part thought the
guards is definitely true and you need them to win.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
I mean, look at Florida. I mean, this kid Clayton
is like what he does at the end of the game.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I said it the other day when I saw him.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
This guy's like Steph Curry.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
I mean, he mean what he does shooting the ball,
getting tough shots, getting them off quickly, getting them off
in crowds, really tough.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, how about the how about the shot where he
got the rebound and dribbles out and just jumps up
and shoots it like it's a feb three on three tournament.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
And he can rise up with the best of them.
He's got great legs and he can go straight up
in the air like you know, very few people can.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Steve lapis Is joined us year on the Doug Outlib
Show on Fox Sports. Trader of course, you coach at Villanova.
Still friendly with everybody at Villanova. Kevin Willer's the who
head coach ch at Villanova, And there was just kind
of this weird process over the last week and a
half or so where the Villanova's job was open, and
then all of a sudden there was some other names,
and it felt like it was his job. And then
(28:13):
he kind of refused to answer his ad leaves and
goes to SMU, what are your thoughts on how that
all went down?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
You know, it's unfortunate when these things go down like this,
you know, I thought, and I was able to witness
almost first hand the both ways of doing it, because
we had Will Wade in the region when we were
in Providence last week, and he was very upfront.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, I've been talking. He didn't deny anything.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I was talking to Providence and everybody.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We knew when we were doing the game that he
was leaving the next day if they lost, and obviously
he did. And then Kevin he's trying to kind of
like not.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Say that, but you know, everybody's surmising this because why
is Villanova And he got kind of stuck in a
tough spot because you have Villanova. How could they not
be talking to somebody those champ or portals open unless
they have who they want. Well, all the other names
that came out were ont.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Of the tournament.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
For Moser was out of Chris Collins was out, Richard
Patino was out, and they still didn't have a coach
and then everybody said they gotta be going for Kevin
Willard and obviously that was what was going on. So
it was kind of a hard situation as people got
knocked out. It was hot, you know, everybody knew they
were looking at Kevin, and that's what happened. And I
think I think they did great. I mean, they obviously
(29:28):
had to go outside the family, which hadn't happened since
nineteen seventy one. And they got a guy who's been
one of the big East, one of the Big ten,
and I think they.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Hit a home run.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, what is that like to go outside the family? Right?
You know you and Ral, you know, working for Raleigh
and then he got Jay Wright? What what what is
that like? Did like do they all clear it with you? Like, Hey,
we're gonna go outside the family? Is there like a
text chain? How does that all work?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Well, they might have cleared it with Jay. They certainly
didn't clear with Mitty, but you know, the one thing
about the place, and you know, I tried to do
this and Jay did it, which was keep all those
guys involved, Like you know, Kevin doesn't.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Have a connection to those guys. In nineteen eighty five
and won the championship.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
You know, So for the first time since nineteen seventy,
you know, Villanova's gonna have a head coach who's a
terrific head coach, but doesn't have that connection, that long
term connection that's kind of always been there because even
when Kyle Neptune was the head coach, Roly's guys felt
part of him because he was a Jay guy, so
(30:39):
he was a Villanova guy. Now, for the first time,
that's not going to be there, and I think that's
going to be a challenge for Kevin to connect to
have to maintain that connection to those guys because me
and Jay we worked really at Roy, worked very hard
at keeping the past together and but we were there
(31:01):
so we knew it all.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Kevin doesn't know all these guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
He's probably mean, I just heard of some of them,
but he doesn't know them. So that's gonna be a
challenge for him connecting that pass, which is I think
big at Villanova.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Okay, so here's the big question. Where's Harriet letting you
go play golf. Where's your first golf trip that you
get to go play. What's once this thing is done?
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Well, I'm just gonna be playing it overbrook and down
at the shore for now. We're playing a trip maybe
to Arizona in September, but right now it's just gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I got two clubs, Doug. I think that's enough.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Get two clubs. What clubs I mean?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I got oh oh, oh oh.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Two cutry guys. I thought. I thought, you're like, yeah,
I'm playing seven iron and putter. I was like, man,
this guy is nasty with the seven iron if it's
seven iron putter, Like I'd like to walk around with
just the seven iron putter, but no I could.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
But I am depione. I could get away with a driver,
a three wood in a wedge, and I tell people.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I'm the only guy that.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Regrips his three wood three times of the year. That
tells you what I need on my second shot, Like
all the time I.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Hit a threew off the tea because I can't hit the
driver off the tee. Hey, we got to play sometime
in the meantime. Kudos to you and Andrew. You guys
are awesome together, and thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
All right, that's my good friend Steve Lapis, who, of course,
like my dad, like my late father. Like New Yorker
through and through from the Bronx high school coach, became
college assistant, became college head coach, and now, of course,
one of the premier voices of college basketball on CBS.
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Speaker 3 (34:38):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show Show.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Dan Byer, what do you got, my friend, Doug?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You touched on this earlier big deal, little deal or
no deal that Green Bay Phoenix star Anthony Roy is
now in the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
For now, for me, for him, for what.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
It's your show, Doug.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think it's a big deal. I think you know,
we took a guy who came from Naia basketball, and
my job is to get get our players their first
great job. Doesn't matter if you're working at Green Bay Packaging,
if you're working at Titletown Tech, or if you're playing
(35:27):
the G League, the NBA or playing for another college.
And I succeeded, he's gonna get a lot of money.
He'll he'll make more money in college basketball than he
would if he was the first round, my first second
round draft pick in the NBA, without any question. So
I mean, not an unexpected deal, but I'm I'm gonna
be happy for it when we find the right place
(35:49):
and he's let me work with him. You know, there's
no I mean it wasn't like I was surprised by it.
I just I think he's very realistic with his expectation.
He's handling his business his way. And here's the guy
who struggled academically and he's now in the dean's listening.
He's gonna graduate on time here in the spring. So
big deal for him, big deal for college basketball, big
(36:10):
deal for us that we're doing what we're supposed to do,
which is when a guy can make way more money
than we can pay him, we help him get on
his way.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
All right, Doug, big deal, A little deal of no
deal that Kevin Willard ultimately did leave for Villanova. I
think it's I think.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's a big deal. I just do you know, there
was a period of time where he was struggling at
Seaton Hall. And we've seen other coaches struggle at Seaton
Hall because they just they don't have the resources. Now
in Nil, it's it's big because you know, Maryland likes
to think of themselves as you know, next to college
basketball is kind of elite. You know, they're not duke,
(36:47):
but they're kind of that step below. And to have
a have a guy leave, what would in their minds
be a parallel move got to leave you scratch your head.
I think it's a big deal, big.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Deal, big deal, little deal or no deal that Kevin
Durant will miss at least a week for the Suns
because of an ankle injury.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
He's still gonna play in the playoffs, so it's snuby deal.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Well, they may not make the playoffs. There are a
game and a half out right now.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, yeah, that thing has crashed and burned pretty bad. Huh.
I knew they were losing recently. I didn't realize it
was that bad. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I may have played his final game with the Suns,
depending on because there's.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Lots of talk of him. And then did Nick write
he said keep it eyeing the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I still don't understand why he didn't just accept the
trade to the Warriors. That's so weird.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
But that tracks right, Yes, big deal, little deal of
no deal.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Doug.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
That there seems to be enough support in the NFL
to ban the tush push.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Feels like a big deal, right because it's like we
got to like, go, oh, hey, you can't push it now.
That is a rule you're not supposed to push, but
people do it all the time. But the fact that
it's like one play that the Eagles have now won
a Super On went to another super On. Yeah, the
energy towards it makes it a big deal.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Finally, Doug, big deal, little deal, an old deal that
Aaron Rodgers had a throwing session with DK metcalf of
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Uh, little deal, little deal. I'm starting to buy into
this conspiracy theory that he's going to announce on Pat
McAfee's show in a week right, he has some live
show or something in Pittsburgh. I think that's what happens.
So Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, What
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