April 3, 2025 • 34 mins
Doug talks about the Warriors visiting the Lakers on Thursday night and discusses which team be least surprising if they won the title. Doug welcomes college hoops analyst Jeff Goodman onto the show to discuss the Final Four. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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called bar nineteen nineteen. Do you know what nineteen nineteen signifies? Sam?
(00:45):
You know what it signifies?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Probably something to do with Texas and their statehood.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
No, let's try again. Jason Stewart nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
What happened in nineteen nineteen?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, because I know, because we're doing don't call to
throwback Thursday, right way back tonight. We know we're doing.
That's two thousand and five. We're doing next hour, right,
two thousand and five.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Let me just paint you the I think I'm the
only one on this staff that was alive, So I'm
just going to paint you the picture. We were all
it was a war, uh, war, frustrated country, Our troops
are coming home. We just did dealt with the Spanish flu.
And then the government says, you can't drink alcohol.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You cannot drink Oh, it's a prohibition thing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's prohibition, right. Uh. World War One was ended with
the Treaty of Versailles. Right. And then they had you
had the Red Summer in the United States, right, And
that was when you saw race, riots erupted and clashes
and all kinds of ugliness. And then you had the
Eighteenth Amendment which established the prohibition, which ratified uh, and
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the Volstead Act was passed, putting into effect a ban
on alcohol production and sale. Think about that. It's really
really interesting that of the things we look back and
like in sports, you know, this year we had a
true college football playoff. Was it perfect?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Was it flawed? Yes? But not just in our lifetime.
In this century, we've had dual national champions in college football.
We've had two teams like we're the best. Best is
a singular term, and yet for some reason we had
two best. Right now, we're in an era of compensation
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for college athletes. Compensation for college athletes. Matter of fact,
next season, these athletes will actually have a contract with
the school. Like when I have a player or any
of my players that are coming back, if they're getting
extra nil or whatever we're calling it, we have them
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sign an MoU, which is a memo of understanding and
then a contract which is with the school, and the
school pays it out of their revenue share budget. And
then again we look back at we had dual national
champions in football, and you have two coaches who lost
their jobs in college basketball who are going to compete
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this weekend. One Bruce Parl lost it for having Aaron
Craft at a barbecue at his house at a time
of the year which you weren't allowed to have a player,
having an unsigned player at a barbecue at your house.
And Kelvin Sampson for too many phone calls and text
messages that really happened, And what also really happened was
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in nineteen nineteen, so a little bit over one hundred
years ago, you could not produce or sell alcohol in
the United States. That really really happened. That really happened.
And I'm not even somebody who drinks that much. And
by the way, they have this unbelievable whiskey. If you're
a whiskey guy, like this is the spot. But I
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just can you like, who thought that was a good idea?
What's ironic about it is the President's like, hey, we're
putting these tariffs in. They used to work in the
eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. Yeah, that was during
a time in which somebody thought it was a good
idea to ban the production and sale of alcohol. Like
what So I don't know when I when I saw,
(04:21):
I was nineteen nineteen, and I knew it was kind
of a speakeasy, all right, Sam, you didn't know nineteen
nineteen at the time. You do know what why they
called it a.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Speakeasy, right, Yes, so that you can get in there
and drink and then the government doesn't know about it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Right, You kept your voices down. You gotta keep your voices.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Now there are tariffs on whiskey. How about that? Come
full circle?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, are there tariffs on what about America? What about America?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, I mean anything coming from like Japan has a
t tariff on it for so whiskey coming from Japan?
Or I'm sure going over there there's a tariff. Two,
it's reciprocal, reciprocal terrors.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You get a tariff, No, you get a tariff. No,
you get a tariff, No, you get a teriff. All right,
let's let's get into some sports tonight. Two teams which
I think all of us thought if you would have
gone back before the trade deadline and you had to
ask yourselves honestly, like do they have will they be
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in the playoffs? Yeah? Do they have a chance? No? No.
Now you're like, will they be in the playoffs? Yes?
Do they have a chance? Really not? But it's not crazy.
Lakers Warriors tonight, Lakers worse tonight. So I'll ask you, guys,
I'll give you my answer at the end there. Which
of these teams would you be less surprised? Do I
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have to do less surprised or would you do more surprised?
I want to do less surprised. I know it doesn't
sound good. There's grammar police out there saying that's that
that doesn't work in terms of the syntax of the sentence. Fine,
it's my show. I can do it. Which of these teams,
Dan Byer, Jason Stewart and Sam Which of these teams
(06:00):
would you be less surprised if they won an NBA
championship this year? Lakers or the Warriors. Let's start with
Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I'll say Lakers.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Why.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I just.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I think that there's so much hype about them at
this point. My heart said Lakers, even though I'm not
a Lakers fan. My head said Warriors. But for the
sake of the argument, I'm just saying Lakers.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I don't say the sake of the argument, say
whatever you actually think.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, I told you, I said the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, yeah, I'll get to you the other two. I
agree with you, and I think it's not just a hype.
It's over like. Look, I think Luca's team last year
was pretty well put together, way better so than this.
You know, you had another star in a Kyrie, but
then you had a very good defensive lineup around him
that could cover for him, which you don't have with
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the Lakers. But the point is that Luca took a
bunch of guys and went to an NBA finals last year,
and they were competitive right. And then the other part too,
It is that that we have this belief, inherent belief
that the NBA has changed and its offense not defense,
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even though it's really not that way. But I think
it's that Luca did it last year or got to
NBA Finals last year. Jase stu, if you could which
of these teams would you be less surprised, least surprised,
less surprise at least whatever that they got won NBA championship.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I think because of their championship pedigree, they have championship
in their blood, with a lot of their players, including
you know, Draymond and Steph and those those other players.
I think I'd be less surprised at the Warriors. But
also when that trade went down. You asked us to
go back to when the trade went down, somebody on
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this show who happens to also coach basketball said that
the Lakers will not play any defense. They can't play defense.
So you can convince me they can't win a championship
this year.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think they can,
but again I'm not. It's like, does that mean you're
convinced that the Warriors can?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, No, this is we're given two choices. It's kind
of like the election in November. Right, You've given us
two choices.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Right, I got it. So what I'm saying is like
if I said I probably would have said the same
thing about the Warriors too.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I'm saying, which are you you'd be surprised if
either won a championship? Correct?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, which would you be less surprised in? Your answer
is with Warriors?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Okay, Sam, I go with the Warriors too.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I think just with the addition of Jimmy Butler, they
are definitely a playoff.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They'll be in the playoffs. They're contender.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They're not at the top, but with Jimmy Butler on
there now, it's like it's added a dimension that could
make them a contender. I think that I'd be less
surprised if they won the title.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Hmm. It's it's super interesting. But I think that the
logic behind the Lakers is or my logic is, Luca
did it last year and he's only twenty five. My
logic behind the Warriors is, I think you're all gonna
nod when I say it. We think that Steph is
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capable of anything because he never ceases to surprise us.
You know, the last time we saw Steph Curry play
in an important game was the Olympics, and he hit
not one, not two, not three, but four straight threes
to win a gold medal. Right, and oh yeah, by
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the way, preceding those four threes, he was awful that day.
He was bad at both ends of the court. He
was not playing well by his own accounts. And Steph
is one of those guys, or is the guy. I
think he's the guy who uh, he's reached the Tyson zone,
but as a player right the Tyson zone. For people
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don't follow Bill Simmons, I think Bill Simmons coined it.
If not, I'm gonna credit Bill Simmons, which is, there's
no story about Mike Tyson that you wouldn't believe to
be true. If I said, hey, I saw Mike Tyson
grab a mouse with his bare hands, bite off its head,
drink its blood, and then throw it out in the street,
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right in broad daylight, you would go like, yeah, tracks
and I if I and from a sports perspective, if
I said, hey, Steph Curry hit fifteen straight threes off
one leg, fading away, falling out of bounds, you're like, wait,
Steph did it? Yeah, okay, that tracks? Is that? Is
that fair? Guys?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
I mean, is that there was a recent video where
it looked like Steph chucked one from further than full
court that we all thought was real.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Was it fake? Was that a fake video?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It wasn't fake. It just didn't go in.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
But there have been other videos that I like that
as well, where it's been ai and we're like, oh, yeah,
that did happen.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yes, No, I actually thought that went in, just I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like embrace the net, didn't it. It just lined up
with so it was short and it it looked like
it went through it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Airwitch. I think that's an air swish. We're gonna call
that an air swish.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Hit the net, but didn't hit, didn't go through the rim.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It air swished, air swished. The point is that Steph
Curry is the There's nothing he could do, though it
would be surprising that you would say is impossible because
he has done the impossible before. Anyway, they played a
night and I guess it's gonna be interesting. You know,
we're getting towards the nd NBA season playoffs crank up there,
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I mean, we're right, now looks like Kevin Durant's gonna
be traded. They what do you do with Mike Budenholzer
that's not working? Is this the last of last year
of Giannis in Milwaukee? That's what that one feels like. Obviously,
you know, are the Knicks further long or less far along?
We'll see as Jalen Brunson gets healthy. There is some
interesting stuff, and then there's, of course, the big question
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is is Oklahoma City ready to get to an NBA
finals this year? Not with their regular season win total,
about how they play in the playoffs. This is the
Doug Otlet Show here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
the Lakers are favored by a point and a half
according to DraftKings sportsbook. Who had When you guys had
a question, who is that?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I Well, you just you mentioned something off the top
that I think is interesting of the college coaches, not
about the NBA, but of the coaches. And he talked
specifically about Calvin Sampson and Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Their past should be hanging over them, but I do
think that there is a difference between when you said
Bruce Pearl had Aaron Craft over for a barbecue and
Calvin Sampson just made too many phone calls. Like we
look back on that and we say, yeah, it's ridiculous.
But like in Calvin Sampson's case, he knew the rules.
(13:00):
Oh and he knew like the second time around with it.
So it isn't that these rules are ridiculous. It's basically,
you were told you cannot do this, and that's why
you didn't have your previous job with your previous employer,
so you better not do it again. And then they did,
and then he did, and so then he lost. So
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it's it's not as much about the phone calls, which
I find interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's more it's about.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's the cover up, not the crime. And it's the
fact that he did the same thing twice.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
A ye, yes, schools.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, and listen for Bruce Pearl. People don't know right,
Like the allegations are. He turned in Illinois back in
the day and he was he was made to have
to go to He went to Division two to coach
right at Southern Indiana, he won national championship. Then he
goes through UW Milwaukee, works his way up. He's at
Tennessee and he didn't lose his job because of the barbecue.
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He lost his job because he lied to investigators. That's
why he lost his job.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Yeah, I think no matter whether in Samson's case, whether
it was if you were to take a kid out
to dinner, if you were to pay for a parent's airfare,
or to make a phone call, if you were told
not to do that and you did it again, it's
just very difficult for me to have any you know,
empathy or think that they were wronged in any way.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. I mean, that
story will be mistold the entire weekend because that's what happens.
Everybody hates the NCAA, so they'll go like, oh, they
just they kicked them off for some phone calls. Yeah, no, No,
that's not what happened. That's not what happened, you know.
And the and the lesson is it's like one like,
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you make a mistake, Like, let's not make the same mistakes,
you know. Secondly, and then the other one for Bruce
is no matter what you do, if you just own it,
you can survive it. But if you lie about it,
then you're going to get fired for it.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and we're down here in San Antonio. And later on
tonight I'm gonna pop on the Field of sixty eight podcast,
which it's actually pretty cool when your players are like,
k coach, You're going to San Antonio, right, Yeah, You're
gonna go on Field of sixty eight?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Why, Like, oh I love that stuff. Oh man, Now
I'm gonna feed the ego of Jeff Goodman, who covers
all college who how you're Jewish? I'm Jewish and it's
you know, we've always privately kind of had the man,
let's try and find a couple Jews here, right, And
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now you have three Jewish head coaches in the final four.
What's that like for you? Covering it as long as you've.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Covered it, Yeah, for me, and you would mean something.
I don't know for the rest of the country it
matters that much. But if you are Jewish and you're
looking at Bruce Pearl and Tig Golden and John Shire
and we've known these guys for a long time just
to watch kind of what's happened, right, I mean, Bruce
has been we know, like Bruce is publicly out there Jewish,
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He's on social media, he will talk about it all
the time Israel. But like, I don't think a lot
of people knew Todd Golden and John Shywer were even Jewish.
So it is one of those things that I think
they all kind of take pride in it, certainly Bruce
more outwardly than the others even, but it's it's kind
of nuts. And then obviously you've got you know, Kelvin Sampson,
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Native American, and how cool that is. So it's it
is cool, It is cool.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, And then there's also the you know, both those
guys have been bitten by the NCAA bug in the past,
and yet here they are there in the next.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
The bigger story. That's the bigger story to me. I mean,
what they've come back from Doug and what they did wrong. Right,
they both got run out of college basketball, you know,
Kelvin for making too many phone calls because you know
too much. He did it. Oklahoma did it again in Indiana,
he did it. Those are the rules then Bruce Pearl
broke the rules by having Aaron crafted a barbecue. Both
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of those things look utterly ridiculous now looking back on it,
but at the time we were like, hey, you know what,
like this is a big deal. They got run out,
and they both took jobs that were kind of like
at that time, thought of his like kind of graveyard
type jobs. Right, Auburn was terrible, and and Kelvin when
he took over to Houston was a joke. And what
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they've been able to do is remarkable. And they've done it. Yeah,
they've done it kind of differently, you know, like their
their their personalities are very different.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, you know, it's here's here's one that I don't think,
you know, Okay, when Aaron, you know, Aaron Craft de
committed and it wasn't because the insane fractions. He de
committed because Bruce was coaching in Israel and one of
the players he was coaching in Israel was Todd Golden.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
That one I just I asked him for the scouting
report on Golden just now and he said, he's like, yeah,
scoring point guard, didn't really guard much, could really shoot.
God didn't love playing with him because you know, he
didn't really pass unless you know that was the last option.
He was pretty funny about it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Bruce is really funny. What do you make of of
moving from Like I know, Buzz always has his name
in for a job. But if you look at the
success of the SEC, the success of Todd and Bruce
and and look, I mean you even look at Tennessee
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and their their success, these classic football schools are now
really successful in basketball in no small part most no
small part because they have the money that football makes
them as well. Right, moving from there to a Maryland
which he's a Texas guy, it feels like a weird fit,
Like why would Buzz leave? Now?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Well, you know me, You're gonna get the real right,
Like all right, so Buzz. First of all, text A
and M was not overly upset to see Buzz leave,
just as Marquette was not upset to see him leave,
just as Virginia Tech was not upset to see him
leave at the time he does. He's a hell of
a coach. Okay, so I'm gonna start there. He's a
hell of a ball coach. He's done a great job,
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but he wears out as welcome. You know, there's how.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But how, but but how? And why? Because again, I'm
I'm friendly with Buzz. When I covered him, he was
always good. If you got up early and you worked
out with him, you're kind of in the club a
little bit. But like how, I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Did you watch after after they lost? Did you watch
the Jerry Folwell esque post game in the locker room
where he basically prayed you know, to each uh, to
each player afterwards, and gave a sermon about each player.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I would I would think it. I would think it.
I would think at A and M that would that would.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Go over well?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
And it does, and it does until a certain point.
But he can wear on you, you know again, his
stick and there's a lot of stick there, the stick
of it's not about me, it's about the players. I
just think a lot of it's about Buzz. And I
think when he gets to Maryland, like you said, the
fit worries me because us Northeasterners aren't ruthless, aren't. Yeah,
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we're ruthless. We don't. We don't trust people as much, right,
We're just not as nice. So I think that stick
might not fly in College Park, Maryland. And I know
people say, well, he was in Blacksburg. Blacksburg is completely
different than College Park, Maryland. So I just don't know
how long it works. And in Maryland, you know you
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kept hearing len elmore right, we want one of our own.
We want somebody's going to be here a while, rather
than Kevin Willer trying to get out after three years. Okay,
Buzz might be there four or five, but he's not
going to be their long term. And I just again,
good coach, weird.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
The whole thing Maryland in the Big Ten is a
weird fit. Buzz, Buzz, there is a weird fit. And frankly,
and I know you know Kevin Plank went to Maryland,
but under armour in college basketball is a weird fit.
All of it is a weird fit. Doesn't mean it
won't work, but it said it is a weird It's
all about money too, now, let's okay. So so why
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is outside of the fact that it does feel like
a cult, why is Texas in it? Like, isn't that
a job that all these dudes should want?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
You would think, I just don't think they care much
about basketball. I think again, to me, that's the hard
part of a Texas a and m it is all
a football and a certain guy can get it done there,
like Chris Beard. You and I know him well. He
can figure it out anywhere. So I said, like, if
he goes to Texas A and M and Old Miss
for Chris Beard are the same, They're one and the same.
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He's going to be able to flip either one of
them because he has a way of bringing a fan
base to life like very few coaches. Right. And to me, again,
I just don't know if Texas A and M for
the right guy. Like it takes a Chris Beard, it
would take a Bruce Pearl to energize that bambase and
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make them a basketball ish school. And I don't know
who they're can hire that, Doug, But Trev Alberts just
got his hands full trying to figure it out because
there aren't a lot of guys left with strong resumes
that could work at Texas A and M.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Right now, Scott Cross, does that one makes sense to you?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
That means fine? And he was a buzz Williams guy
a little bit, you know, I would say Steve Forbes.
I know he doesn't have the resume to show it,
but he was an assistant for BULLI Clott Gillespie when
they were really good with Buzz Williams of that staff,
he just hasn't won it wake at a high enough level.
But sometimes you got to look past that. Sometimes you
got to not worry about the press conference, especially if
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you're Trev Alberts, right. I think the other thing is,
you know, you go to Maryland. Maryland is a basketball school,
and Maryland is a basketball school, where Texas A and
M you know, clearly is a football school. So if
you're Buzz, you might be thinking that way. I always
feel like Buzz is that guy though, that just wants
to get out before he knows he's more not as welcome.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, no, you get out, you get out of town.
You know, reset the shot clock if you will. Yeah,
have to play, love to play another day, get it.
Instead of he getting a contract extension where you are,
you get contract extension elsewhere. And M's happy because they
have a new guy. Plus they had to pay the
buy out, so that that helps him pay the first
year their new guy. All those things kind of kind
of work together. What's going to happen? I mean, like
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we're getting to the point of ridiculousness, right, Like if
we thought last year if we thought last year was
ridiculous with the asks for money, this year is so.
And I want to talk about this on your your
pod and again if it doesn't fit what you guys
want to talk about, it's like what it's really like
at our level, which is, you know, you feel like
you have to call everybody as soon as they go
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in that you really and so for us, it's like,
we're only going to call you if we're legitimately interested.
And if we're legitimately interested, we called hey, and we
have you know, we have kind of a price point
we're willing to hit. And what we've seen is a
lot of guys will blow you off early because they're
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thinking there worth two x three x that because the
initial phone call from an assistant coach is kind of
floating those numbers around. And then now once we get
to okay, let me actually see it on paper, it
looks very very different. And I my thing is like,
I don't think any of those numbers that people are
throwing out for even the top guys, are real. I
don't see it.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
We don't know. I mean that's the hard part, Doug,
we don't know. I know the agents are throwing out
crazy numbers, right, I know the agents are throwing out
numbers and the two point five three million this range,
and I do know, I do know that Again, a
lot of this is going to be front loaded right now.
You know it's gonna be front loaded because if the
house settlement goes in, then you're talking about the cap
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at some point. Now, is it a real cap. Obviously,
it's a cap.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
With vet the cap. The cap is only what the
school can spend, right, that's not that's not that's not
what your your collective can spend.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
No, But they're worried too about the third party. You know,
obviously you got Deloitte here that's got to clear everything
beyond six hundred dollars. That's a third party nil deal,
and everybody's worried about those. So instead, right now, for
the last year, it's been basically the free market, right, like,
you pay whatever you want. So everybody's trying to pay
these guys. Sure you're doing it to some extent if
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you can, but you're the mid major level, you're not able.
You're not able to get guys. Yet you got to
wait till hopefully the price comes down or the player
understands that he thinks he's a level up and then
you know, in two weeks he realizes, okay, I was
eighth on the list.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yes, yes and yes and no me yes and no.
You can you can get guys the right guys. You
might have to wait a little bit, so a little
bit for some right we need we need to do.
What we need to do is we need to have
a we need to have a podcast at some point
in time where we redact the names and I tell
you how it all like, and how it all like
(26:10):
I have because I have notes on everything, and it's
just it's a fascinating.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Because the agents, because the agents are so much a
part of it now and they never were obviously, and
you don't know, I've said this, like what will work
for everybody is get some sort of a portal where
you can see how much money every and be honest,
which most coaches are not going to be, but put
put in the number there so everybody knows they're not overpaying.
(26:37):
Because the agents right now are trying to they're trying to,
you know, get get the number up, and they're lying
about these numbers to all these coaches, just trying to
you know, inflate the number, which I don't blame them,
that's their job, but it would be a whole lot
easier if you guys had something where hey, you know what,
all right, we're curting against this guy. All right, we
know what the number is. Everybody knows. It's like it's
like going to an auction, right, It's like going to
(26:58):
an auction, Doug, and you put up the number whatever
it is. Okay, you know, five hundred thousand, all right,
five point fifty? What are you willing to bid? And
you get there? Dudes. I know it sounds ridiculous, but
at least then you know what you're dealing with instead
of some fictional number.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's a great point. At Field of sixty eight, you
can you can download the podcast. You can watch it
online as well. He's the one and only Jeff Goodman. Jeff,
thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it and.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Wait to see it tonight six o'clock, six o'clock on
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Speaker 7 (28:10):
This is game time on the Doug gott Last Hee.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Dan, what's the game today, my friend, Doug.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
The game today is.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
I feel a draft? All right?
Speaker 6 (28:25):
We got some day baseball and some pretty sharp looking
teams out there in Philadelphia and Baltimore. Today we are
drafting your favorite Major League baseball uniform, so not just cap,
but uniform that you like to see. Sam Iowa. Sam
as the first pick. Doug, you are second, Jason is third,
and I will follow with the swing pick. All right, Sam,
(28:46):
you're on the clock.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
With the number one overall pick. They're on TV right now.
They're up three to one over the Colorado Rockies. Give
me the baby blue Philadelphia Phillies solid with the sort
of the burgundy hat and big pee on the chest.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That's That's what I'm gonna draft there. It looks so good.
Do we need to dump that? Are we good? We're good?
Just making sure moving on, big letter p on the chest.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, all right, keeping it clean here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Doug, you're up at pick number two.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Okay, So my pick, my favorite baseball uniform ever, ever, ever, Man,
I don't think you can go any different than the
Yankees pinstripes.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm there is something about.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Them, I will agree, and if they lasted to the
third pick, I'd probably end up picking that. However, I
am uh not up at number three. It's Jason Stewart.
I'm up at number four. I bad, Jay, You're up.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You know what. I didn't like them when they were around,
but in the last twenty years I have appreciated more
of the Expo's presentation. Their hats have grown on me.
If I was to buy a hat right now, outside
of the Dodgers, I'd buy the Expos And there are whites,
those hats with those whites. Wow, what an attractive presentation.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Very Crisp. I would agree with that, Crisp Crip. It's
also good to have the expos cap because is you say, Jason,
you're a fan of the Dodgers, and how can you
hate having a team that doesn't exist anymore? But you know, right,
like that works. That's why throwbacks are so good. You
can be a fan of one team, but I feel
(30:40):
you can wear a throwback of another because maybe that
team doesn't look like that. Although I did tell the
story how I wore an Oiler's throwback cap last year
when I went back home to Wisconsin and was at
Aaron Hills. So you got a lot of people from
across the country, across the globe going to play golf there,
and I had two guys say hey, go Titans. And
(31:00):
I never once thought of the Oiler's logo as representing
the Titans, except for us complaining about it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
So well we had Remember we had the cal State
Futon Titan thing at at the Craps table in Vegas. Jase,
do you remember that or hear he was wearing the
polo shirt, not the.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Hat, a polo shirt like he was a coach or something.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yeah, all right, I got back to back picks here
and Doug. I've said on this program, I love their
hat and I am going to include their uniforms. I
don't love this team. In fact, I like to cheer
against this team, but I can't deny a good look
the Saint Louis Cardinals with that which one though the
the I could go with the home Whites. I'm totally
(31:42):
fine with the Whites because what makes it is the
two Cardinals on the baseball bat, like that logo, that
idea of just incorporating. To me, it's it's perfect, there's
every everything about it. I love the STL and how
it looks on the hat. Put it with the uniform.
So give me the Cardinals, I'll say home Whites. And
(32:03):
then I do like the Houston Astros with the rainbow
of orange from back in.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
The day, back in the day Nolan Ryan on the Hill.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't care if it's the orange cap or
the Navy cap. I just liked the rainbow uniforms, So
give me the Astros rainbow.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You know what the kids say these days, no cap.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
No cap, no lies, no lies being told in my rankings.
Back to Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Those rainbow Astros uniforms always remind me of Morgana. I
don't know, oh yeah, if she was centered down there
or what, but all of her Morgana attacks happened in
Houston for some reason. I'm gonna go with my traditional Dodgers.
They haven't changed a bit. They've been very slow to
do alternative uniforms. Dodger whites for.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Me, Dodger whites are great with the red numbers. Mm hmm,
those are fantastic. I'm not gonna lie. Of all the
things that as an Angel fan I envy, I think
those I may envy the most about the Dodgers. That
and all the World Series titles too, and the fact
that Shoho Tany now plays for the Dodgers, just a
lot of other things. Favorite baseball, favorite baseball uniforms for
(33:14):
two hundred hmm. I really really like all the blues
I like. I like the Cardinals blues. I like the
Mariners blues. I like the Brewers, the new brew Crew
blues that they were now, So like all those in
terms of traditional you know, I find no flaw at
(33:38):
all with the Orioles white uniforms, the hat, the coloring,
just enough orange, just enough black to go along with
the all white the three color hat as well. Up top,
gimme orioles. The orioles, the orioles.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
All right, orioles at seven, Sam, do you have a
quick one? Nineteen seventy San Diego Padres. I like the
yellow and the brown. I don't know why. And that's game.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, they came back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
That's game.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
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You know what it signifies?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Probably something to do with Texas and their statehood.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
No, let's try again. Jason Stewart nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
What happened in nineteen nineteen?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, because I know, because we're doing don't call to
throwback Thursday, right way back tonight. We know we're doing.
That's two thousand and five. We're doing next hour, right,
two thousand and five.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Let me just paint you the I think I'm the
only one on this staff that was alive, So I'm
just going to paint you the picture. We were all
it was a war, uh, war, frustrated country, Our troops
are coming home. We just did dealt with the Spanish flu.
And then the government says, you can't drink alcohol.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You cannot drink Oh, it's a prohibition thing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's prohibition, right. Uh. World War One was ended with
the Treaty of Versailles. Right. And then they had you
had the Red Summer in the United States, right, And
that was when you saw race, riots erupted and clashes
and all kinds of ugliness. And then you had the
Eighteenth Amendment which established the prohibition, which ratified uh, and
(01:54):
the Volstead Act was passed, putting into effect a ban
on alcohol production and sale. Think about that. It's really
really interesting that of the things we look back and
like in sports, you know, this year we had a
true college football playoff. Was it perfect?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Was it flawed? Yes? But not just in our lifetime.
In this century, we've had dual national champions in college football.
We've had two teams like we're the best. Best is
a singular term, and yet for some reason we had
two best. Right now, we're in an era of compensation
(02:32):
for college athletes. Compensation for college athletes. Matter of fact,
next season, these athletes will actually have a contract with
the school. Like when I have a player or any
of my players that are coming back, if they're getting
extra nil or whatever we're calling it, we have them
(02:52):
sign an MoU, which is a memo of understanding and
then a contract which is with the school, and the
school pays it out of their revenue share budget. And
then again we look back at we had dual national
champions in football, and you have two coaches who lost
their jobs in college basketball who are going to compete
(03:15):
this weekend. One Bruce Parl lost it for having Aaron
Craft at a barbecue at his house at a time
of the year which you weren't allowed to have a player,
having an unsigned player at a barbecue at your house.
And Kelvin Sampson for too many phone calls and text
messages that really happened, And what also really happened was
(03:37):
in nineteen nineteen, so a little bit over one hundred
years ago, you could not produce or sell alcohol in
the United States. That really really happened. That really happened.
And I'm not even somebody who drinks that much. And
by the way, they have this unbelievable whiskey. If you're
a whiskey guy, like this is the spot. But I
(03:59):
just can you like, who thought that was a good idea?
What's ironic about it is the President's like, hey, we're
putting these tariffs in. They used to work in the
eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. Yeah, that was during
a time in which somebody thought it was a good
idea to ban the production and sale of alcohol. Like
what So I don't know when I when I saw,
(04:21):
I was nineteen nineteen, and I knew it was kind
of a speakeasy, all right, Sam, you didn't know nineteen
nineteen at the time. You do know what why they
called it a.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Speakeasy, right, Yes, so that you can get in there
and drink and then the government doesn't know about it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Right, You kept your voices down. You gotta keep your voices.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Now there are tariffs on whiskey. How about that? Come
full circle?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, are there tariffs on what about America? What about America?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, I mean anything coming from like Japan has a
t tariff on it for so whiskey coming from Japan?
Or I'm sure going over there there's a tariff. Two,
it's reciprocal, reciprocal terrors.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You get a tariff, No, you get a tariff. No,
you get a tariff, No, you get a teriff. All right,
let's let's get into some sports tonight. Two teams which
I think all of us thought if you would have
gone back before the trade deadline and you had to
ask yourselves honestly, like do they have will they be
(05:14):
in the playoffs? Yeah? Do they have a chance? No? No.
Now you're like, will they be in the playoffs? Yes?
Do they have a chance? Really not? But it's not crazy.
Lakers Warriors tonight, Lakers worse tonight. So I'll ask you, guys,
I'll give you my answer at the end there. Which
of these teams would you be less surprised? Do I
(05:38):
have to do less surprised or would you do more surprised?
I want to do less surprised. I know it doesn't
sound good. There's grammar police out there saying that's that
that doesn't work in terms of the syntax of the sentence. Fine,
it's my show. I can do it. Which of these teams,
Dan Byer, Jason Stewart and Sam Which of these teams
(06:00):
would you be less surprised if they won an NBA
championship this year? Lakers or the Warriors. Let's start with
Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I'll say Lakers.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Why.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I just.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I think that there's so much hype about them at
this point. My heart said Lakers, even though I'm not
a Lakers fan. My head said Warriors. But for the
sake of the argument, I'm just saying Lakers.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I don't say the sake of the argument, say
whatever you actually think.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, I told you, I said the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, yeah, I'll get to you the other two. I
agree with you, and I think it's not just a hype.
It's over like. Look, I think Luca's team last year
was pretty well put together, way better so than this.
You know, you had another star in a Kyrie, but
then you had a very good defensive lineup around him
that could cover for him, which you don't have with
(06:57):
the Lakers. But the point is that Luca took a
bunch of guys and went to an NBA finals last year,
and they were competitive right. And then the other part too,
It is that that we have this belief, inherent belief
that the NBA has changed and its offense not defense,
(07:19):
even though it's really not that way. But I think
it's that Luca did it last year or got to
NBA Finals last year. Jase stu, if you could which
of these teams would you be less surprised, least surprised,
less surprise at least whatever that they got won NBA championship.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I think because of their championship pedigree, they have championship
in their blood, with a lot of their players, including
you know, Draymond and Steph and those those other players.
I think I'd be less surprised at the Warriors. But
also when that trade went down. You asked us to
go back to when the trade went down, somebody on
(07:54):
this show who happens to also coach basketball said that
the Lakers will not play any defense. They can't play defense.
So you can convince me they can't win a championship
this year.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think they can,
but again I'm not. It's like, does that mean you're
convinced that the Warriors can?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, No, this is we're given two choices. It's kind
of like the election in November. Right, You've given us
two choices.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Right, I got it. So what I'm saying is like
if I said I probably would have said the same
thing about the Warriors too.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I'm saying, which are you you'd be surprised if
either won a championship? Correct?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, which would you be less surprised in? Your answer
is with Warriors?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Okay, Sam, I go with the Warriors too.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I think just with the addition of Jimmy Butler, they
are definitely a playoff.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They'll be in the playoffs. They're contender.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They're not at the top, but with Jimmy Butler on
there now, it's like it's added a dimension that could
make them a contender. I think that I'd be less
surprised if they won the title.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Hmm. It's it's super interesting. But I think that the
logic behind the Lakers is or my logic is, Luca
did it last year and he's only twenty five. My
logic behind the Warriors is, I think you're all gonna
nod when I say it. We think that Steph is
(09:25):
capable of anything because he never ceases to surprise us.
You know, the last time we saw Steph Curry play
in an important game was the Olympics, and he hit
not one, not two, not three, but four straight threes
to win a gold medal. Right, and oh yeah, by
(09:48):
the way, preceding those four threes, he was awful that day.
He was bad at both ends of the court. He
was not playing well by his own accounts. And Steph
is one of those guys, or is the guy. I
think he's the guy who uh, he's reached the Tyson zone,
but as a player right the Tyson zone. For people
(10:09):
don't follow Bill Simmons, I think Bill Simmons coined it.
If not, I'm gonna credit Bill Simmons, which is, there's
no story about Mike Tyson that you wouldn't believe to
be true. If I said, hey, I saw Mike Tyson
grab a mouse with his bare hands, bite off its head,
drink its blood, and then throw it out in the street,
(10:30):
right in broad daylight, you would go like, yeah, tracks
and I if I and from a sports perspective, if
I said, hey, Steph Curry hit fifteen straight threes off
one leg, fading away, falling out of bounds, you're like, wait,
Steph did it? Yeah, okay, that tracks? Is that? Is
that fair? Guys?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
I mean, is that there was a recent video where
it looked like Steph chucked one from further than full
court that we all thought was real.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Was it fake? Was that a fake video?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It wasn't fake. It just didn't go in.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
But there have been other videos that I like that
as well, where it's been ai and we're like, oh, yeah,
that did happen.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yes, No, I actually thought that went in, just I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like embrace the net, didn't it. It just lined up
with so it was short and it it looked like
it went through it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Airwitch. I think that's an air swish. We're gonna call
that an air swish.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Hit the net, but didn't hit, didn't go through the rim.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It air swished, air swished. The point is that Steph
Curry is the There's nothing he could do, though it
would be surprising that you would say is impossible because
he has done the impossible before. Anyway, they played a
night and I guess it's gonna be interesting. You know,
we're getting towards the nd NBA season playoffs crank up there,
(11:45):
I mean, we're right, now looks like Kevin Durant's gonna
be traded. They what do you do with Mike Budenholzer
that's not working? Is this the last of last year
of Giannis in Milwaukee? That's what that one feels like. Obviously,
you know, are the Knicks further long or less far along?
We'll see as Jalen Brunson gets healthy. There is some
interesting stuff, and then there's, of course, the big question
(12:06):
is is Oklahoma City ready to get to an NBA
finals this year? Not with their regular season win total,
about how they play in the playoffs. This is the
Doug Otlet Show here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
the Lakers are favored by a point and a half
according to DraftKings sportsbook. Who had When you guys had
a question, who is that?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I Well, you just you mentioned something off the top
that I think is interesting of the college coaches, not
about the NBA, but of the coaches. And he talked
specifically about Calvin Sampson and Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Their past should be hanging over them, but I do
think that there is a difference between when you said
Bruce Pearl had Aaron Craft over for a barbecue and
Calvin Sampson just made too many phone calls. Like we
look back on that and we say, yeah, it's ridiculous.
But like in Calvin Sampson's case, he knew the rules.
(13:00):
Oh and he knew like the second time around with it.
So it isn't that these rules are ridiculous. It's basically,
you were told you cannot do this, and that's why
you didn't have your previous job with your previous employer,
so you better not do it again. And then they did,
and then he did, and so then he lost. So
(13:21):
it's it's not as much about the phone calls, which
I find interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's more it's about.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's the cover up, not the crime. And it's the
fact that he did the same thing twice.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
A ye, yes, schools.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, and listen for Bruce Pearl. People don't know right,
Like the allegations are. He turned in Illinois back in
the day and he was he was made to have
to go to He went to Division two to coach
right at Southern Indiana, he won national championship. Then he
goes through UW Milwaukee, works his way up. He's at
Tennessee and he didn't lose his job because of the barbecue.
(13:51):
He lost his job because he lied to investigators. That's
why he lost his job.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Yeah, I think no matter whether in Samson's case, whether
it was if you were to take a kid out
to dinner, if you were to pay for a parent's airfare,
or to make a phone call, if you were told
not to do that and you did it again, it's
just very difficult for me to have any you know,
empathy or think that they were wronged in any way.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. I mean, that
story will be mistold the entire weekend because that's what happens.
Everybody hates the NCAA, so they'll go like, oh, they
just they kicked them off for some phone calls. Yeah, no, No,
that's not what happened. That's not what happened, you know.
And the and the lesson is it's like one like,
(14:38):
you make a mistake, Like, let's not make the same mistakes,
you know. Secondly, and then the other one for Bruce
is no matter what you do, if you just own it,
you can survive it. But if you lie about it,
then you're going to get fired for it.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Absolutely, be sure to catch the live edition of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and we're down here in San Antonio. And later on
tonight I'm gonna pop on the Field of sixty eight podcast,
which it's actually pretty cool when your players are like,
k coach, You're going to San Antonio, right, Yeah, You're
gonna go on Field of sixty eight?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Why, Like, oh I love that stuff. Oh man, Now
I'm gonna feed the ego of Jeff Goodman, who covers
all college who how you're Jewish? I'm Jewish and it's
you know, we've always privately kind of had the man,
let's try and find a couple Jews here, right, And
(15:47):
now you have three Jewish head coaches in the final four.
What's that like for you? Covering it as long as you've.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Covered it, Yeah, for me, and you would mean something.
I don't know for the rest of the country it
matters that much. But if you are Jewish and you're
looking at Bruce Pearl and Tig Golden and John Shire
and we've known these guys for a long time just
to watch kind of what's happened, right, I mean, Bruce
has been we know, like Bruce is publicly out there Jewish,
(16:17):
He's on social media, he will talk about it all
the time Israel. But like, I don't think a lot
of people knew Todd Golden and John Shywer were even Jewish.
So it is one of those things that I think
they all kind of take pride in it, certainly Bruce
more outwardly than the others even, but it's it's kind
of nuts. And then obviously you've got you know, Kelvin Sampson,
(16:39):
Native American, and how cool that is. So it's it
is cool, It is cool.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, And then there's also the you know, both those
guys have been bitten by the NCAA bug in the past,
and yet here they are there in the next.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
The bigger story. That's the bigger story to me. I mean,
what they've come back from Doug and what they did wrong. Right,
they both got run out of college basketball, you know,
Kelvin for making too many phone calls because you know
too much. He did it. Oklahoma did it again in Indiana,
he did it. Those are the rules then Bruce Pearl
broke the rules by having Aaron crafted a barbecue. Both
(17:14):
of those things look utterly ridiculous now looking back on it,
but at the time we were like, hey, you know what,
like this is a big deal. They got run out,
and they both took jobs that were kind of like
at that time, thought of his like kind of graveyard
type jobs. Right, Auburn was terrible, and and Kelvin when
he took over to Houston was a joke. And what
(17:36):
they've been able to do is remarkable. And they've done it. Yeah,
they've done it kind of differently, you know, like their
their their personalities are very different.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, you know, it's here's here's one that I don't think,
you know, Okay, when Aaron, you know, Aaron Craft de
committed and it wasn't because the insane fractions. He de
committed because Bruce was coaching in Israel and one of
the players he was coaching in Israel was Todd Golden.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
That one I just I asked him for the scouting
report on Golden just now and he said, he's like, yeah,
scoring point guard, didn't really guard much, could really shoot.
God didn't love playing with him because you know, he
didn't really pass unless you know that was the last option.
He was pretty funny about it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Bruce is really funny. What do you make of of
moving from Like I know, Buzz always has his name
in for a job. But if you look at the
success of the SEC, the success of Todd and Bruce
and and look, I mean you even look at Tennessee
(18:44):
and their their success, these classic football schools are now
really successful in basketball in no small part most no
small part because they have the money that football makes
them as well. Right, moving from there to a Maryland
which he's a Texas guy, it feels like a weird fit,
Like why would Buzz leave? Now?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Well, you know me, You're gonna get the real right,
Like all right, so Buzz. First of all, text A
and M was not overly upset to see Buzz leave,
just as Marquette was not upset to see him leave,
just as Virginia Tech was not upset to see him
leave at the time he does. He's a hell of
a coach. Okay, so I'm gonna start there. He's a
hell of a ball coach. He's done a great job,
(19:28):
but he wears out as welcome. You know, there's how.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But how, but but how? And why? Because again, I'm
I'm friendly with Buzz. When I covered him, he was
always good. If you got up early and you worked
out with him, you're kind of in the club a
little bit. But like how, I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Did you watch after after they lost? Did you watch
the Jerry Folwell esque post game in the locker room
where he basically prayed you know, to each uh, to
each player afterwards, and gave a sermon about each player.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I would I would think it. I would think it.
I would think at A and M that would that would.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Go over well?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
And it does, and it does until a certain point.
But he can wear on you, you know again, his
stick and there's a lot of stick there, the stick
of it's not about me, it's about the players. I
just think a lot of it's about Buzz. And I
think when he gets to Maryland, like you said, the
fit worries me because us Northeasterners aren't ruthless, aren't. Yeah,
(20:27):
we're ruthless. We don't. We don't trust people as much, right,
We're just not as nice. So I think that stick
might not fly in College Park, Maryland. And I know
people say, well, he was in Blacksburg. Blacksburg is completely
different than College Park, Maryland. So I just don't know
how long it works. And in Maryland, you know you
(20:49):
kept hearing len elmore right, we want one of our own.
We want somebody's going to be here a while, rather
than Kevin Willer trying to get out after three years. Okay,
Buzz might be there four or five, but he's not
going to be their long term. And I just again,
good coach, weird.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
The whole thing Maryland in the Big Ten is a
weird fit. Buzz, Buzz, there is a weird fit. And frankly,
and I know you know Kevin Plank went to Maryland,
but under armour in college basketball is a weird fit.
All of it is a weird fit. Doesn't mean it
won't work, but it said it is a weird It's
all about money too, now, let's okay. So so why
(21:23):
is outside of the fact that it does feel like
a cult, why is Texas in it? Like, isn't that
a job that all these dudes should want?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
You would think, I just don't think they care much
about basketball. I think again, to me, that's the hard
part of a Texas a and m it is all
a football and a certain guy can get it done there,
like Chris Beard. You and I know him well. He
can figure it out anywhere. So I said, like, if
he goes to Texas A and M and Old Miss
for Chris Beard are the same, They're one and the same.
(21:53):
He's going to be able to flip either one of
them because he has a way of bringing a fan
base to life like very few coaches. Right. And to me, again,
I just don't know if Texas A and M for
the right guy. Like it takes a Chris Beard, it
would take a Bruce Pearl to energize that bambase and
(22:13):
make them a basketball ish school. And I don't know
who they're can hire that, Doug, But Trev Alberts just
got his hands full trying to figure it out because
there aren't a lot of guys left with strong resumes
that could work at Texas A and M.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Right now, Scott Cross, does that one makes sense to you?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
That means fine? And he was a buzz Williams guy
a little bit, you know, I would say Steve Forbes.
I know he doesn't have the resume to show it,
but he was an assistant for BULLI Clott Gillespie when
they were really good with Buzz Williams of that staff,
he just hasn't won it wake at a high enough level.
But sometimes you got to look past that. Sometimes you
got to not worry about the press conference, especially if
(22:53):
you're Trev Alberts, right. I think the other thing is,
you know, you go to Maryland. Maryland is a basketball school,
and Maryland is a basketball school, where Texas A and
M you know, clearly is a football school. So if
you're Buzz, you might be thinking that way. I always
feel like Buzz is that guy though, that just wants
to get out before he knows he's more not as welcome.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, no, you get out, you get out of town.
You know, reset the shot clock if you will. Yeah,
have to play, love to play another day, get it.
Instead of he getting a contract extension where you are,
you get contract extension elsewhere. And M's happy because they
have a new guy. Plus they had to pay the
buy out, so that that helps him pay the first
year their new guy. All those things kind of kind
of work together. What's going to happen? I mean, like
(23:40):
we're getting to the point of ridiculousness, right, Like if
we thought last year if we thought last year was
ridiculous with the asks for money, this year is so.
And I want to talk about this on your your
pod and again if it doesn't fit what you guys
want to talk about, it's like what it's really like
at our level, which is, you know, you feel like
you have to call everybody as soon as they go
(24:02):
in that you really and so for us, it's like,
we're only going to call you if we're legitimately interested.
And if we're legitimately interested, we called hey, and we
have you know, we have kind of a price point
we're willing to hit. And what we've seen is a
lot of guys will blow you off early because they're
(24:23):
thinking there worth two x three x that because the
initial phone call from an assistant coach is kind of
floating those numbers around. And then now once we get
to okay, let me actually see it on paper, it
looks very very different. And I my thing is like,
I don't think any of those numbers that people are
throwing out for even the top guys, are real. I
don't see it.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
We don't know. I mean that's the hard part, Doug,
we don't know. I know the agents are throwing out
crazy numbers, right, I know the agents are throwing out
numbers and the two point five three million this range,
and I do know, I do know that Again, a
lot of this is going to be front loaded right now.
You know it's gonna be front loaded because if the
house settlement goes in, then you're talking about the cap
(25:04):
at some point. Now, is it a real cap. Obviously,
it's a cap.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
With vet the cap. The cap is only what the
school can spend, right, that's not that's not that's not
what your your collective can spend.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
No, But they're worried too about the third party. You know,
obviously you got Deloitte here that's got to clear everything
beyond six hundred dollars. That's a third party nil deal,
and everybody's worried about those. So instead, right now, for
the last year, it's been basically the free market, right, like,
you pay whatever you want. So everybody's trying to pay
these guys. Sure you're doing it to some extent if
(25:35):
you can, but you're the mid major level, you're not able.
You're not able to get guys. Yet you got to
wait till hopefully the price comes down or the player
understands that he thinks he's a level up and then
you know, in two weeks he realizes, okay, I was
eighth on the list.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yes, yes and yes and no me yes and no.
You can you can get guys the right guys. You
might have to wait a little bit, so a little
bit for some right we need we need to do.
What we need to do is we need to have
a we need to have a podcast at some point
in time where we redact the names and I tell
you how it all like, and how it all like
(26:10):
I have because I have notes on everything, and it's
just it's a fascinating.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Because the agents, because the agents are so much a
part of it now and they never were obviously, and
you don't know, I've said this, like what will work
for everybody is get some sort of a portal where
you can see how much money every and be honest,
which most coaches are not going to be, but put
put in the number there so everybody knows they're not overpaying.
(26:37):
Because the agents right now are trying to they're trying to,
you know, get get the number up, and they're lying
about these numbers to all these coaches, just trying to
you know, inflate the number, which I don't blame them,
that's their job, but it would be a whole lot
easier if you guys had something where hey, you know what,
all right, we're curting against this guy. All right, we
know what the number is. Everybody knows. It's like it's
like going to an auction, right, It's like going to
(26:58):
an auction, Doug, and you put up the number whatever
it is. Okay, you know, five hundred thousand, all right,
five point fifty? What are you willing to bid? And
you get there? Dudes. I know it sounds ridiculous, but
at least then you know what you're dealing with instead
of some fictional number.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's a great point. At Field of sixty eight, you
can you can download the podcast. You can watch it
online as well. He's the one and only Jeff Goodman. Jeff,
thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it and.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Wait to see it tonight six o'clock, six o'clock on
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Speaker 7 (28:10):
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Speaker 1 (28:16):
Dan, what's the game today, my friend, Doug.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
The game today is.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
I feel a draft? All right?
Speaker 6 (28:25):
We got some day baseball and some pretty sharp looking
teams out there in Philadelphia and Baltimore. Today we are
drafting your favorite Major League baseball uniform, so not just cap,
but uniform that you like to see. Sam Iowa. Sam
as the first pick. Doug, you are second, Jason is third,
and I will follow with the swing pick. All right, Sam,
(28:46):
you're on the clock.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
With the number one overall pick. They're on TV right now.
They're up three to one over the Colorado Rockies. Give
me the baby blue Philadelphia Phillies solid with the sort
of the burgundy hat and big pee on the chest.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That's That's what I'm gonna draft there. It looks so good.
Do we need to dump that? Are we good? We're good?
Just making sure moving on, big letter p on the chest.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, all right, keeping it clean here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Doug, you're up at pick number two.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Okay, So my pick, my favorite baseball uniform ever, ever, ever, Man,
I don't think you can go any different than the
Yankees pinstripes.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm there is something about.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Them, I will agree, and if they lasted to the
third pick, I'd probably end up picking that. However, I
am uh not up at number three. It's Jason Stewart.
I'm up at number four. I bad, Jay, You're up.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You know what. I didn't like them when they were around,
but in the last twenty years I have appreciated more
of the Expo's presentation. Their hats have grown on me.
If I was to buy a hat right now, outside
of the Dodgers, I'd buy the Expos And there are whites,
those hats with those whites. Wow, what an attractive presentation.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Very Crisp. I would agree with that, Crisp Crip. It's
also good to have the expos cap because is you say, Jason,
you're a fan of the Dodgers, and how can you
hate having a team that doesn't exist anymore? But you know, right,
like that works. That's why throwbacks are so good. You
can be a fan of one team, but I feel
(30:40):
you can wear a throwback of another because maybe that
team doesn't look like that. Although I did tell the
story how I wore an Oiler's throwback cap last year
when I went back home to Wisconsin and was at
Aaron Hills. So you got a lot of people from
across the country, across the globe going to play golf there,
and I had two guys say hey, go Titans. And
(31:00):
I never once thought of the Oiler's logo as representing
the Titans, except for us complaining about it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
So well we had Remember we had the cal State
Futon Titan thing at at the Craps table in Vegas. Jase,
do you remember that or hear he was wearing the
polo shirt, not the.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Hat, a polo shirt like he was a coach or something.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yeah, all right, I got back to back picks here
and Doug. I've said on this program, I love their
hat and I am going to include their uniforms. I
don't love this team. In fact, I like to cheer
against this team, but I can't deny a good look
the Saint Louis Cardinals with that which one though the
the I could go with the home Whites. I'm totally
(31:42):
fine with the Whites because what makes it is the
two Cardinals on the baseball bat, like that logo, that
idea of just incorporating. To me, it's it's perfect, there's
every everything about it. I love the STL and how
it looks on the hat. Put it with the uniform.
So give me the Cardinals, I'll say home Whites. And
(32:03):
then I do like the Houston Astros with the rainbow
of orange from back in.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
The day, back in the day Nolan Ryan on the Hill.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't care if it's the orange cap or
the Navy cap. I just liked the rainbow uniforms, So
give me the Astros rainbow.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You know what the kids say these days, no cap.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
No cap, no lies, no lies being told in my rankings.
Back to Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Those rainbow Astros uniforms always remind me of Morgana. I
don't know, oh yeah, if she was centered down there
or what, but all of her Morgana attacks happened in
Houston for some reason. I'm gonna go with my traditional Dodgers.
They haven't changed a bit. They've been very slow to
do alternative uniforms. Dodger whites for.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Me, Dodger whites are great with the red numbers. Mm hmm,
those are fantastic. I'm not gonna lie. Of all the
things that as an Angel fan I envy, I think
those I may envy the most about the Dodgers. That
and all the World Series titles too, and the fact
that Shoho Tany now plays for the Dodgers, just a
lot of other things. Favorite baseball, favorite baseball uniforms for
(33:14):
two hundred hmm. I really really like all the blues
I like. I like the Cardinals blues. I like the
Mariners blues. I like the Brewers, the new brew Crew
blues that they were now, So like all those in
terms of traditional you know, I find no flaw at
(33:38):
all with the Orioles white uniforms, the hat, the coloring,
just enough orange, just enough black to go along with
the all white the three color hat as well. Up top,
gimme orioles. The orioles, the orioles.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
All right, orioles at seven, Sam, do you have a
quick one? Nineteen seventy San Diego Padres. I like the
yellow and the brown. I don't know why. And that's game.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, they came back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
That's game.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
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