April 3, 2025 • 37 mins
On this version of "Don't Call It A Throback, Thursday", Doug and the crew feature the year 2005. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Mark Medina onto the show to give the latest from the site of the Lakers-Warriors game. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Thursday coming for you in a second, and I always
I do want. With this segment, Jason ticks plane why
he selected the year that he selected, But we'll talk
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more about the tournament more about tonight's game between the
Lakers and the Warriors. Obviously we're all waiting, which I
feel like we have a conclusion that it's going to
be Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers, and it's gonna be
on Pat McAfee's show going into next week. I feel
that way. I was the first one to spread that
malicious Internet rumor, not the malicious Internet rumor that Pat
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McAfee spread anyway. So we'll get to that this hour.
But let's play the little game play every Thursday. It's
called don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Jay Stu, why did you select two thousand and five?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. We have
been doing this for many weeks. We have been doing
this for many weeks, and for many weeks I've been
saying to Sam, please don't do drops while I'm talking
because I have one functional ear. So we've been doing
it for what twenty five weeks, and we're running out
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of years. So the short answer to your question is
we're running out of years. But thankfully for us, this
is the twentieth anniversary of the two thousand and five
Final four did you have any qualms about two thousand
and five or do you want me to continue, Doug.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Two thousand and five was Illinois North Carolina in the
National champion game, wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I was just going to recap that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Was it Sis Saint Louis and that was Illinois shot
forty threes. I believe that was what made everybody lose
their mind because they shot forty threes and almost pulled
off an upset against North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
It's the age old.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It was the age old question back then on sports
talk radio as I was working on the Jim Rome Show,
do you want to go undefeated into the tournament or
do you want to kind of lose a game and
get it over with and then kind of start the tournament?
And Bruce Webers fighting a Lin and I were undefeated
until very late in that season. Now, remember well the.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Year before, Saint Joe's was undefeated in the regular season,
lost in the first game of the A ten tournament,
and then they were upset by Oklahoma State in the
Elite eight on John Lucas's last second shot. So it
was eerie similarities between the two.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Illinois lost to Ohio State in the at the end
of the regular season, Matt Silvester hit a three for
Ohio State to knock the Ilane from the ranks of
the house.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Watching that game, I'm sure you were too, Dan, Illinois
had a three headed monster at the time, Luther Head,
d Brown and Darren Williams.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Now, you hear a lot about guard play this time
of year. Those were the best guards in the country,
all collected on the same team. Darren Williams would go
on to the NBA make a lot of money play
for the Olympics, but UNC was the real team to
focus on. Because if I'm not mistaken, you guys correct me.
This is Roy Williams first national title. Correct after going
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so many times with Kansas and coming up short. He
had the legs of Seawan May. He had the legs
of Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Williams as a as a rookie, as a fresh member. Right,
weren't they beaten that year really badly by Florida State? Dan,
I want to say, like they lost.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
By they may have been. I was more locked in
because that's when I was in Madison, so I was
doing Wisconsin basketball, so I was locked into the Big Ten.
So I know that big ten trio with that Illinois
trio that you mentioned, but they may have They may
have lost to Florida State.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Actually they lost the opener to Santa Clara, then they
lost to Wake Forest mid season, than Duke, and then
Georgia Tech I think in the a SEC tournament.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
So no, so you're answer.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay answers, No, that's two thousand and five college hoops.
What else happened in two thousand and five, boys.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yes, I can tell you a couple of things. I
also had that I'll give you a golf in the
second Illinois had the comeback against Arizona in the Elite eight,
where I think Ben Mallard said that he was going
to walk to Tucson if Arizona blew that. I believe
that was that's a five. I don't think he ever did,
but there was there was something along those lines, Uick.
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Because it was also the summer that I moved to
California in two thousand and five, so there's a lot
that stands out. I mentioned Marvin Williams, and the reason
that I remember him coming off the bench was because
he was possibly going to be the number one overall
pick in the NBA draft that year, which was owned
by the Milwaukee Bucks, and instead of taking Darren Williams,
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Chris Paul, or Marvin Williams Andrew Bogant, the Bucks took
Andrew Boget number one, which at the time was the
correct pick. I believe as we look back on it,
maybe Chris Paul would have been the better option, but
that happened in two thousand and five with the Bucks
the NBA lottery.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If you if you were able to archive and pull back,
you know, look, I've made some misjudgments in the NBA draft.
If you go back, I did say that Chris Paul
should be an abodover opick, say he's too small. And
the NBA there's an expression, I you're gonna make a mistake,
make a big mistake. Andrew Bugger wasn't a mistake, a
big mistake, but that has there has been big mistakes
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made in the past. Hey, go back to when you
moved to California. Did you drive from Madison, from Madison
to California?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I did I drove. I remember a car. It was
a Nissan Ultima two thousand and one Nissan Ultima.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hey, where did you stop?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
So the first night I drove from I drove from Madison.
I stopped at Field of Dreams in Iowa, but I
made it all the way to Lincoln, Nebraska. Then the
next the distance. The next day I drove to Denver
and took in a Rockies Reds game. It was a
Friday night or tornado warnings. Storms moved through. The Reds
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pulled Ken Griffey Junior from the lineup. Nobody played. I
left in the third inning, but I did walk around
course field. And then Saturday was the big day. I
was actually west of Denver where I stayed Breckinridge. It
snowed on June third, and yes, it was crazy. I
was in shorts and flip flops. It was June. I thought,
all right, I walked to my car snow on it.
That's when I made the like fifteen hour drive to
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Rancho Cucamonga.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Can I make? Can I make the classic dad joke
that everybody makes?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Ha.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know they say about Denver, if you don't like
the weather, wait fifteen minutes. It's true, but they say
that everywhere except for California.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Although it is apropol and Colorado because you could get
like an eighty degree day.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Like in some you know, day after getting snow. Okay, yes,
and then still milts truly okay, so awesome, but but.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You did skip a lot of the details that actually
matter to me. Okay, you're rolling in the Ultima two
thousand and one Ultima, Jay s dude, do we think
this is the CD player in the front. But that
was probably when they had the six CD changer in
the front, not in the trunk, right, it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Sat on my Actually, I can't remember if it's if
I had the discman that played or if it was
actually in the car.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I think it's in the car because the first that
you had, if you had the ten disc, it was
in the trunk, and then eventually they had the sixth disc,
which could be and it would rotate in the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I never had a multidisc player in my car, right.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, do you know any of the discs that were
being played, because this is two thousand and five.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes, so well, I remember I had I think it's
Eminem's third album that was out. I can't remember which
one that it was, but I listened to that a
bunch when I ended up driving out. I do remember,
I do remember that try as just said, it was
a long drive. You had a lot of CDs. By
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the way. In golf, Tiger Woods won the Masters, in
the Open Championship, Michael Campbell ended up winning US Open.
In phil Mickelson won the PGA Championship.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I have no idea if Michael Campbell was sitting right
next to me and he said, I'm Michael Campbell, I
won the Masters? Or when what do you win in
the US Open?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yes, you won the US US Open at Pinehurst, Dan,
Can I ask you a question? Here?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Was it the Marshall Mathers LP that was his third
album came out in two thousand. Okay, maybe maybe it
was I can't use the fourth album. Maybe it was
a little newer. Yeah, it could have been. I just
and again I'm not the huge music guy, but it was.
It wasn't like one of the first ones. It was
maybe third or fourth, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He was, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Did you hear this song on the way up to Calforn?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, that's I was waiting for us.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Tu this is Gwen Stefani. I want to say it's
her first solo.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
After leaving No Doubt in two thousand and five, was
second on the bill Board charts by the end of
the year, only topped by this song, Dan, Did you
listen to this one? On the way out to California?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I could totally see Dan rocket Rule Utah, throwing things, crying,
trying to I know a little bit of it, but
I didn't have this in Constant Rotation.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Movies No. Five, there was a Harry Potter out of
fire right, but Wedding Crashers was two thousand and five.
Wedding Crashers two thousand and five. Have any of you
guys ever crashed a wedding?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Negative?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
No, no, No. I'm kind of excited. Two assistant coaches
of mine are getting married this summer. I was working
and I couldn't. I should have, but I could have
gone to Jackson Holiday's wedding last a year ago, January
or something Florida. So it's been a while since your
boy went to a wedding. Kind of, I don't know.
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I'm excited, although I'm a lot like what are the
grumpy guys up in the balcony at the Muppets? For
the Muppets one of those guys names and they know
I'm a little bit like that.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
At a wedding research out, I know that the Peanut
Gallery guys, right, yeah, but they.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Have six months give it six months, six months, six months,
six years years. No way, I'm the cynic. I won't
be the cynic. I mean other Jordan lived, they'll they'll
make it the distance. Beautiful couple. I don't know about
my boy denbo and Molly Denbo is he's he's he's
always grumpy. It's always grumpy. I don't know how that
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works in the marriage.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But the crumpy muppets are named Statler and Wohldorf. I
would have never guessed that. You know what happened in
sports in two thousand and five, People remember that the
White Sox broke an eighty eight year drought. But what
I remember, right, yeah, I remember calling Drop calling a
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bunch of reiters, and to go on record.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Was two fives like the news service.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Guys on roids Rafael Palmer. First of all, it was
it was classic. I love that Sammy Sosa All of
a sudden, Samy So is like, you'll know obling less,
so So is the best. They're like, uh, Sammy would
like to ask you about your steroid. US is like,
I know speaking English, I know speaking English? And then
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they go to Rafael Palmarow who's like, he looks right
in the end of the camera and he's like, I
never ever used steroids, pointing at Congress ever period. What
happened the next baseball season, Raphael Palmaro pop for steroids.
It was classic.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Ah I do remember that NFL season. That was the
season the Seahawks ended up going to the Super Bowl.
But it was a great regular season. Super Bowl obviously
happened in two thousand and six for the.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
First try, so true betis from Detroit.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I did know that, but that regular season was a
It was a great regular season for the Seahawks leading.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Up to their Shawn Alexander was the MVP, wasn't he?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes, yes he was that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Matt Hasselbeck has was the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It was Encore, so it would have been Eminem's fifth album.
So I apologized, but it was Encore. I ended up
looking it up. Sam, Okay, that was the that was
the album.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, So Jay stew if you were going to drive
from Madison to Red Joe Kuckamonga even today, and we
actually discussed this on the podcast yesterday. A radio show
I don't remember, Pearl Jam ten would be one of
your albums. If you had a six disc.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Change, that's fifty two minutes of the twenty eight hours
of driving.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So I mean, but the question is if you had
a six six disc changer, right, not the iPods we
have now or the iPhones we have now, where you
have you know, thousands and thousands of songs, You can
only have six albums, Jay stew Will those six albums.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Be Rumors by Footwood Mac, the greatest album of all time,
Purple Rain by Prince I think ten would be in there.
Let's see, I'm gonna of all the Smith's albums, I'll
probably go Meet his Murder. Then I would go probably
something more recent, which is a I don't know if
you could do this, but anything by Kendall Lamar off
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of the Damn Album, And then I would I would
go lay Back and anything off of Sergeant Pepper, Lonely
Heart Club band that makes six albums, six of the
most amazing albums of all time. And yes, I am
a music snob.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, I know you are.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, that's why I hesitate to talk about music as well.
I don't want to offend Jason Sense.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'll judge it's not offending he's just very very negative terse.
It's like talking Star Wars with Ryan, you know, like,
well I like that movie. He's, Oh, it's crap. It's crap,
like Brian, I mean, I liked it, but this is
inarguable that I liked it.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh we have we have some audio from Ryan Smith.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's a complete crap, exactly exactly what he says.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I do enjoy Coldplay, and my favorite album of theirs
is X and Y. It came out in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh, look at how you brought it back to the
actual segment.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yes, So that's that's also like, you know, like when
you have a summer like song that you like, remember
from back in the day and like where that summer was.
As I said, I had moved out to California and
so and I bought that album across the street at
the Tower Records that is no longer at the Galleria,
and I listened to it when I first moved out here.
A ton Doug, what are your six albums?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It's a great question.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It's like one of those awesome Instagram or TikTok kind
of challenges, like or the one that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I would completely scroll pasted right away.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know it's weird though. When
you do lists, it gets like so many more download
and so many more views. Right, you do a list, listicles, listicles. Okay,
this is a question to the music.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Stop Jason, you're on your cross country drive?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Am I allowed to do greatest hits?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I mean it's it's pretty unimaginative, but go ahead, No, no.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
No, it's okay. I mean then I I honestly wouldn't know, Like, uh,
the first two short album I ever had, I think
It's Too Short Life Is would be there because I
just honestly brings me back to my teenhood. Life is
too Short. Uh, the first Babyface album that had Tender
Lover on it and had whip appeal, that would be
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on it. I think it's just Babyface Babyface. Maybe it's
baby Face tender Lover. I'm not sure. My problem with
my Billy Joel albums is like I have a live
album that he played on like Y two K, and
it's amazing. Other than that, I would I don't know
his different albums, but I do think for cruising a
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Billy Joel album would be amazing. Pearl jam Ten would
absolutely like it's the iconic alternative grunge album. You have
to have it period.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Uh what else I like to do all the different genres?
Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I'm sorry, No, I was just gonna. I was gonna
say something. I actually think greatest hits should be allowed,
but I feel that sometimes when you take a greatest hits,
like Jason will have a lot of deep cuts from
his artists. But I think Journey's greatest hits is that
that would be great album definitely in my six But
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I can't give you fifty Journey songs, but I know
those fifteen that are on that album. Yeah, I absolutely love.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
So Legend like Bob Marley's with that for me, I
could on Legend, Yes, yes, yes, A Queen has the
greatest hits. It's a blue and a one that's blue,
one that's burgundy, and there's like twenty tracks on each.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Hey, how come when they play that? How come when
they play we Will Rock You on the radio, they
also play we are we are the Champions.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Because they were they were made together and together kind
of like was it Zeppelin, Living?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Loving made?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And then there's the second song they I can't remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, It's kind of like the on the on Beatles
on Abbey Road. Everyone knows, uh carry that weight, but
it's a part of the Golden Slumbers. You can't hear
Golden Sumbers without carry that weight.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You need to have You need to have a Beatles
discussion with Darius Rucker because Darius will go into his
the Beatles are the most influential UH music group of
all time and not wrong like you in any album
you will ever hear has something from the Beatles in it.
And he has a new album which is coming out
this summer, and he recorded in London, and I was like,
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did you recording London because of the Beatles? And he
goes a little bit of inspiration. But anyway, uh, the
early two thousand and five, don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Don't call it a throwback.
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
The greatest walk up music in all of sports radio
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this music isn't for me. I can't imagine what Mark
Medina feels he's our pox Sports Radio NBA insider. Okay,
so here's the question mark. We started the show with this,
and I apologize. I don't know if it's not a
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double negative, but the sentence, probably in terms of forming
a sentence, is probably the wrong way to do it.
But which team of the two plane tonight, Lakers and
Warriors would you be less surprised by if they went
to an NBA finals. The Lakers are the Warriors.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
That's good question, and dog don't. I'm not a grammar policeman,
so all good there. I would choose the Warriors. Here's why.
The record speaks for self. They've been eighteen to two
since the Jimmy Butler trade. I think they're also a
better defensive team. I mean, Draymond Green is back in
the defensive Player of the Year conversation, and fairness to
the Lakers, surprisingly and to their credit, they have played
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really good defense at a high level. Jackson Hayes has
been playing out of his mind, but there has also
been a lot of games where the defense has plateaued.
And so even though I think the Lakers are obviously
a danger out, a dangerous out, Lebron James, I think
has passed his growing injury. The Chemistruth He and Luca
Dodgics are only going to get better. They've produced some
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good quality role players. I think the Warriors edg out
because of, you know, the defensive depth that they have.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, I I the MAVs clearly wanted a tank and
then they seem to get push into playing Anthonys. Now
they're winning games and Anthony Davis is amazing. Is anyone
else were outside of me? And maybe you gonna go
I know he's not Luca, but Anthony Davis is prettydamn amazing.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Yeah, I think both things can be true. I would
have done the Luca Doctics trade if if you know,
you go down that route. Maybe the MAVs could have
gotten more in return. But I think the broader point
that you're hitting on is the Mavericks didn't get you know,
scraps of sheet metal here in this trade. Anthony Davis
is playing at a high level, and I think that
here's some context here. Anthony Davis has been playing at
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a high level the last two seasons with the Lakers,
so when he traded a d it wasn't under the
guys of you know what, He's injury prone, he's not
producing enough. It was under the guys of Luka Dogics
is a generational talent, we got to make this deal.
And so I think that's point number one, point number two.
Even though his Mavericks debut coincided with having an injury,
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and he don't take those things lightly because of his
injury history, he has shown a lot better improvement these
last few years in coming back from injury and playing
through pain. So I haven't been surprised that he Ever
since he's come back in the lineup, he's hit the
ground floor running. I think that's a testament to you know,
how he's grown as a player with dealing with that.
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But I think he's also very well aware there's a
lot of Mavericks fans upset about the trade. He wants
to at least play his part in doing right by
it and you know, giving the Mavericks a shot to
make the plan. And because Ad is on the floor,
that helps. It also helps that a lot of other
teams have gotten really really bad. Sacramento Phoenix without Kevin
Durant now, you know, the Memphis Grizzlies have I've sunk
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ever since the you know, firing of Taylor Jenkins, so
almost by default, the Mavericks might get it in as
a play in.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
All right, we'll get to let's let's get to Taylor jenk.
Have we figured out why he was fired?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, the bottom
line is the Memphis Grizzlies made this calculation that they
had a ceiling in the playoffs. Things weren't going as
well as they could, so why not roll the dice
and see if they catch lighting in a bottle. So far,
the lighting has hit them for the worst. But it
wasn't surprising when you look at the big picture. They
imposed a lot of changes to his to his assistants
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last summer, but it is surprised and they would do
it this late in the season. I think it's also
surprising that they did this even though John Moran's a
huge Taylor Jenkins fan and he had some frustrations with
the system this year. But it wasn't because Taylor Jenkins
was calling the shots. It's because the front office was imposing, Hey,
let's have a different kind of playbook, and part of
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that had to do with John not having the ball
in his hands as much. So there's a lot of
weird things here where you feel like this is a
classic game of blackamole. You hit one thing and it
creates three new moles and three new problems.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
All right, Well, the team they did that last year
was the Phoenix Suns. Right. Last year you had Frank
who he wins what forty nine games? Then they fire him.
Now they're bringing Bud and this thing. I don't think
they're going to make the play in. Kevin Rant's not
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going to play that thing's the mess. Does Phoenix room
this staff too.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
You wouldn't rule it out. I mean, we've seen matt
eshb as ownership track record that he's not afraid to
make drastic changes when it comes to coaches here. Now,
I know that he's been on record saying this idea
of we're going to tear it down and rebuild. We're
not in the business of doing that. We want to
win now. But the writing is on the wall here
that regardless of whether they keep Mike Bollenholzer or got
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a new coach, structurally things aren't going to change. Kevin
Durant's playing an all time level. But you know, with
the fact that he hasn't agreed to an extension neither
of the Suns. It seems like inevitable. He's on his
way out. You know, Matt Aeshbie has been adamant he
would never trade Devin Booker, and I get it. Devin
Booker has been a pro an All Star caliber player.
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He wants to be a son after getting drafted there
in twenty fifteen. But I just we've seen this formula
not work where they're throwing money at a lot of
players and they don't have enough depth around it, and
that's not enough stability that it seems inevitable if they
don't choose to go down to tear it down and
rebuild route, circumstances will force them to do those all.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm gonna give you three teams in the East, and
you rank them in order of the teams most likely
to get to the finals. Obviously, you know the three
teams Celtics, Knicks, Calves. Where are yes of today?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Yeah? Where I'm at is today. I choose the Celtics
over the Calves. We've talked about this earlier. You can
flip a coin seven game series. Here's where I choose
Celtics over Calves. They can afford an off night from
one of their star players versus the Cavaliers with Donovan Mitchell.
Both complete teams, a lot of good balance, but the
Celtics are able to adjust. Then I put Cavaliers because
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they've been very consistent. The Knicks. I know it's nice
that Joe Brunson might come back soon, but it feels
like it could be too little, too late. So that's
the order here. The next will be a tough playoff out,
I mean, I think with exception though, once they get
to the second round.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Who's the playoff team the Thunder do not want to see?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Yeah, that's a good question. I think that there is
a lot of separation between the Thunder and the rest
of the field, So I think that they'll prevail from that,
barring major injuries to any of the players. But if
I had to choose, I think the Denver Nuggets would
be the most threatening because Nicola Jokich back as an
MVP caliber player. Their guys are healthier now, most notably
with Jamal Murray Aaron Gordon. They obviously have the championship experience.
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Much different championship team obviously with their supporting cast. But
when you compare the Rockets that are still young, the
Warriors Lakers. Yeah, they could climb through that championship window.
But has this feeling that everything has to go right,
has to have lightning a bottle, that it's going to
be the Thunder and the Nuggets in the West Finals.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You're the best one, man, I mean, Mark Madeen. Of course,
these are Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider getting us ready
for Warriors Lakers tonight the NBA Playoffs just around the corner. Mark,
thanks to join us. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Doug, you're the best. To thank you for the intro music.
If I were a baseball plan, I want to want
it because I would strike out. But thankfully, if we're
just talking hoop sir does.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
It doesn't matter. All you got to do is get
a hit three out of ten times, get on base
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Speaker 4 (28:58):
All right, Doug, it is Dan Buyer at the news desk.
I just decided to introduce myself, but I do want Iowa,
Sam and Jason Stewart in on this because it is
a bit of trivia time that it leads to our
first topic in the press. Bet online has geo tag
data from x in determining what states or which each
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state is what team they're cheering for in the final four. Okay,
forty two states are on the side of one team.
You guys want to guess what team that is? Who
wants Duke? Forty two states are behind Duke. Are you
good with Duke? Sam and Jason? Would you like a
different option?
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I know I would say Duke. Yeah, I would say
more specifically, Cooper flag.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Okay, forty two states are rooting for the Houston Cougars.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Wow, more so than the other three schools. So most
of America wanting Houston to cut down the nets on
Monday Night in San Antonio love Cougars. In fact, Duke
only has two states that they that they won in
this geota. Maine, Okay, that's one.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Guess all right, Maine and Illinois.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
You say Maine in Illinois, you guys want to I'm
going to say North Carolina and Hawaii. Okay, both Carolinas
both Okay, you each got one?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Correct? It's North Carolina and Maine. Yes, with Cooper flag
being from Maine.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I I just would have thought that North Carolina was
Carolina fans or hate Duke.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
You would think so as well. You would probably think
that that maybe if the Crimson Tide fans a cheer
against Alabama, well, cheer against Auburn. That is not the case.
Auburn carries Alabama, State of Washington, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Well, Ohio, Wisconsin. That's the way to victory, isn't it.
Oh that's the election.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
And Florida has Florida and Hawaii in their back pocket.
So this the islands are cheering for the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Weather bias Aloha means hello and goodbye, mister hand.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Gino Smith didn't want to resign with Seattle with what
they were offering him, so the Seahawks traded him to
the Raiders, and now the Raiders have given Geno Smith
a two year extension worth eighty five and a half
million dollars. He gets sixty six point five million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Somebody explain it to me. Somebody explained it to I
get that. I don't understand it. Like, Gino Smith is
not going to make twenty million dollars a year to
play quarterback anywhere else? Why would you pay him thirty
three million dollars a year guaranteed for the next two years.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Because that the Seahawks were offering him somewhere around that.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I got it, But like, what are you gonna do?
Like that's your level. He's not that good. He's fine,
and there's not a single human being's like you know what.
I can't wait. I can't wait till Geno Smith plays
quarterback for my team.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Makes just shot if he reaches everything of forty two
million dollars a year, he was reports that he was
looking for forty to forty five as part of that extension.
So this adds on to the final year of his
current deal and then now takes him under contract through
twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm this contract actually kind of makes his famous saying
it makes as much sense as they wrote me off
and I did, I get.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
It right back.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, So this is I get your guy's stance on this.
But the Raiders aren't doing this deal unless they are
knowing that they are paying him his contract. And it's
also why Seattle is willing to let him go. So
they trade him for a third round pick, and the
Raiders are saying, what they just want a one year stopgapple,
Then why would they give up a third round pick.
(32:46):
It's kind of It's not exactly like but remember when
the Bears acquired Montes Sweats when they were out of
the playoffs. Yeah, like you're kind of tied into now
giving him an extension.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No question, you can't. You can't make that trade lest
you know you're getting I get it. My point is like,
at some point, you can in fact draw a hard
and fast dance. Hey, the Seahawks didn't want you. Nobody's
gonna sign you to a thirty million dollars year contract
in the NFL. Nobody except for us, So let's sign
twenty five years. I do twenty five for three more
than I would do you know, up to forty each
(33:18):
year for two? No chance? By the way, the Raiders
and Raider fans know this. We're on Las Vegas. Which
one of these is not like the other? Okay, you
got justin Herbert, justin Herbert Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes is
kind of good at this thing called football, right, sort
(33:40):
of good. Now. I don't know if you know long
term he's as good as he was last year. But
Bo Nicks or Gina.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Smith, see, I think Gino is better than you guys
are letting on. He just does throw interceptions. And the
question is going to be is if now that they have,
if they have a better offensive line than Las Vegas
will be able to cut down on the interceptions and
what is expected to be a more ball control offense.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Here's a question, how old is Gino Smith? Without looking,
guess it's thirty five? Sam, you want to take a shot, uh.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Man, do you come out West Virginia twenty twelve?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, thirty five?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, Jaseu, I'll go thirty three and a half thirty
uh thirty four, turned does thirty thirty five this year,
So he's sort of sneaky old. But he doesn't have
he doesn't run that much right, and it's not like
he's ever had a huge arm, so he's not gonna
lose an arm strength. I mean, I get what they're doing.
(34:42):
I still think they'll draft a young quarterback try and
develop him. I just think they overspent on it.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
I told Danny G the other day, I think they
are in the running for Jalen Milroe. That seems like
such a Raiders pick a guy.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Who throws it a mile. Yes, we don't know who
he throws in two and has athoticism yet.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, I ad dropping an name in the press today,
Danny G.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Danny G, Yes, if you know. And Rich. I also
think because Pete Carroll would love to use play action,
they did it with Russell Wilson. They would take four
or five shots every game early on or early on
in Russell Wilson's career, and that's how they would try
to get big plays, either with receptions or pass interference
or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, all that made sense, except for the fact that
you signed this guy to a deal that's like sixty
six guaranteed over two.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
John Morantle will not be suspended by the NBA for
mimicking the firing of a gun during Tuesday's game against
the Warriors. Also avoiding suspension Warriors guard Buddy Healed.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I mean, listen, what he did in and of itself
is not that big a deal. It's just when you
have multiple times you've had you know, stupid self with
guns and then point a gun to seventeen year old
who is playing hoopy your house, that's more like hmm.
Self awareness level on the on the NBA two K
rating is very very low, if non existent.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I don't know what Joe Dumars's title is with the NBA,
but I think it has the word discipline in it.
Where's the discipline in warning a guy that you've already
suspended for violation?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I agree, I agree real hard this, and I think
that the NBA is just done with it. Like I
think they're just you know, just all right, just whatever,
just okay, that was dumb.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Gary in Memphis. Nobody cares.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I think that they feel like it would be more
of a problem if they did hand out a penalty.
And I think they are able to avoid that because
Buddy Heal did it as well. But by no means
I mean Gilbert Arenas. You know, the whole thing, Like
the reason why his suspension was laid down was because
it was fake gun shooting thing that he did in
the huddle that David Stern didn't like. Sixers are going
(36:42):
to shut Tyreese Maxi down for the rest of the season,
Doug Jalen Brunson could be back on Saturday for the Knicks,
and Jedi Broom practiced today for Auburn. Should be good
to go Saturday against Florida. And that's the press. They
get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
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Thursday coming for you in a second, and I always
I do want. With this segment, Jason ticks plane why
he selected the year that he selected, But we'll talk
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more about the tournament more about tonight's game between the
Lakers and the Warriors. Obviously we're all waiting, which I
feel like we have a conclusion that it's going to
be Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers, and it's gonna be
on Pat McAfee's show going into next week. I feel
that way. I was the first one to spread that
malicious Internet rumor, not the malicious Internet rumor that Pat
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McAfee spread anyway. So we'll get to that this hour.
But let's play the little game play every Thursday. It's
called don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Jay Stu, why did you select two thousand and five?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. We have
been doing this for many weeks. We have been doing
this for many weeks, and for many weeks I've been
saying to Sam, please don't do drops while I'm talking
because I have one functional ear. So we've been doing
it for what twenty five weeks, and we're running out
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of years. So the short answer to your question is
we're running out of years. But thankfully for us, this
is the twentieth anniversary of the two thousand and five
Final four did you have any qualms about two thousand
and five or do you want me to continue, Doug.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Two thousand and five was Illinois North Carolina in the
National champion game, wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I was just going to recap that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Was it Sis Saint Louis and that was Illinois shot
forty threes. I believe that was what made everybody lose
their mind because they shot forty threes and almost pulled
off an upset against North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
It's the age old.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It was the age old question back then on sports
talk radio as I was working on the Jim Rome Show,
do you want to go undefeated into the tournament or
do you want to kind of lose a game and
get it over with and then kind of start the tournament?
And Bruce Webers fighting a Lin and I were undefeated
until very late in that season. Now, remember well the.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Year before, Saint Joe's was undefeated in the regular season,
lost in the first game of the A ten tournament,
and then they were upset by Oklahoma State in the
Elite eight on John Lucas's last second shot. So it
was eerie similarities between the two.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Illinois lost to Ohio State in the at the end
of the regular season, Matt Silvester hit a three for
Ohio State to knock the Ilane from the ranks of
the house.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Watching that game, I'm sure you were too, Dan, Illinois
had a three headed monster at the time, Luther Head,
d Brown and Darren Williams.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Now, you hear a lot about guard play this time
of year. Those were the best guards in the country,
all collected on the same team. Darren Williams would go
on to the NBA make a lot of money play
for the Olympics, but UNC was the real team to
focus on. Because if I'm not mistaken, you guys correct me.
This is Roy Williams first national title. Correct after going
(04:04):
so many times with Kansas and coming up short. He
had the legs of Seawan May. He had the legs
of Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Williams as a as a rookie, as a fresh member. Right,
weren't they beaten that year really badly by Florida State? Dan,
I want to say, like they lost.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
By they may have been. I was more locked in
because that's when I was in Madison, so I was
doing Wisconsin basketball, so I was locked into the Big Ten.
So I know that big ten trio with that Illinois
trio that you mentioned, but they may have They may
have lost to Florida State.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Actually they lost the opener to Santa Clara, then they
lost to Wake Forest mid season, than Duke, and then
Georgia Tech I think in the a SEC tournament.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
So no, so you're answer.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay answers, No, that's two thousand and five college hoops.
What else happened in two thousand and five, boys.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yes, I can tell you a couple of things. I
also had that I'll give you a golf in the
second Illinois had the comeback against Arizona in the Elite eight,
where I think Ben Mallard said that he was going
to walk to Tucson if Arizona blew that. I believe
that was that's a five. I don't think he ever did,
but there was there was something along those lines, Uick.
(05:20):
Because it was also the summer that I moved to
California in two thousand and five, so there's a lot
that stands out. I mentioned Marvin Williams, and the reason
that I remember him coming off the bench was because
he was possibly going to be the number one overall
pick in the NBA draft that year, which was owned
by the Milwaukee Bucks, and instead of taking Darren Williams,
(05:44):
Chris Paul, or Marvin Williams Andrew Bogant, the Bucks took
Andrew Boget number one, which at the time was the
correct pick. I believe as we look back on it,
maybe Chris Paul would have been the better option, but
that happened in two thousand and five with the Bucks
the NBA lottery.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If you if you were able to archive and pull back,
you know, look, I've made some misjudgments in the NBA draft.
If you go back, I did say that Chris Paul
should be an abodover opick, say he's too small. And
the NBA there's an expression, I you're gonna make a mistake,
make a big mistake. Andrew Bugger wasn't a mistake, a
big mistake, but that has there has been big mistakes
(06:23):
made in the past. Hey, go back to when you
moved to California. Did you drive from Madison, from Madison
to California?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I did I drove. I remember a car. It was
a Nissan Ultima two thousand and one Nissan Ultima.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hey, where did you stop?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
So the first night I drove from I drove from Madison.
I stopped at Field of Dreams in Iowa, but I
made it all the way to Lincoln, Nebraska. Then the
next the distance. The next day I drove to Denver
and took in a Rockies Reds game. It was a
Friday night or tornado warnings. Storms moved through. The Reds
(07:02):
pulled Ken Griffey Junior from the lineup. Nobody played. I
left in the third inning, but I did walk around
course field. And then Saturday was the big day. I
was actually west of Denver where I stayed Breckinridge. It
snowed on June third, and yes, it was crazy. I
was in shorts and flip flops. It was June. I thought,
all right, I walked to my car snow on it.
That's when I made the like fifteen hour drive to
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Rancho Cucamonga.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Can I make? Can I make the classic dad joke
that everybody makes?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Ha.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know they say about Denver, if you don't like
the weather, wait fifteen minutes. It's true, but they say
that everywhere except for California.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Although it is apropol and Colorado because you could get
like an eighty degree day.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Like in some you know, day after getting snow. Okay, yes,
and then still milts truly okay, so awesome, but but.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You did skip a lot of the details that actually
matter to me. Okay, you're rolling in the Ultima two
thousand and one Ultima, Jay s dude, do we think
this is the CD player in the front. But that
was probably when they had the six CD changer in
the front, not in the trunk, right, it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Sat on my Actually, I can't remember if it's if
I had the discman that played or if it was
actually in the car.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I think it's in the car because the first that
you had, if you had the ten disc, it was
in the trunk, and then eventually they had the sixth disc,
which could be and it would rotate in the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I never had a multidisc player in my car, right.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, do you know any of the discs that were
being played, because this is two thousand and five.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes, so well, I remember I had I think it's
Eminem's third album that was out. I can't remember which
one that it was, but I listened to that a
bunch when I ended up driving out. I do remember,
I do remember that try as just said, it was
a long drive. You had a lot of CDs. By
(08:53):
the way. In golf, Tiger Woods won the Masters, in
the Open Championship, Michael Campbell ended up winning US Open.
In phil Mickelson won the PGA Championship.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I have no idea if Michael Campbell was sitting right
next to me and he said, I'm Michael Campbell, I
won the Masters? Or when what do you win in
the US Open?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yes, you won the US US Open at Pinehurst, Dan,
Can I ask you a question? Here?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Was it the Marshall Mathers LP that was his third
album came out in two thousand. Okay, maybe maybe it
was I can't use the fourth album. Maybe it was
a little newer. Yeah, it could have been. I just
and again I'm not the huge music guy, but it was.
It wasn't like one of the first ones. It was
maybe third or fourth, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He was, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Did you hear this song on the way up to Calforn?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, that's I was waiting for us.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Tu this is Gwen Stefani. I want to say it's
her first solo.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
After leaving No Doubt in two thousand and five, was
second on the bill Board charts by the end of
the year, only topped by this song, Dan, Did you
listen to this one? On the way out to California?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I could totally see Dan rocket Rule Utah, throwing things, crying,
trying to I know a little bit of it, but
I didn't have this in Constant Rotation.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Movies No. Five, there was a Harry Potter out of
fire right, but Wedding Crashers was two thousand and five.
Wedding Crashers two thousand and five. Have any of you
guys ever crashed a wedding?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Negative?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
No, no, No. I'm kind of excited. Two assistant coaches
of mine are getting married this summer. I was working
and I couldn't. I should have, but I could have
gone to Jackson Holiday's wedding last a year ago, January
or something Florida. So it's been a while since your
boy went to a wedding. Kind of, I don't know.
(11:04):
I'm excited, although I'm a lot like what are the
grumpy guys up in the balcony at the Muppets? For
the Muppets one of those guys names and they know
I'm a little bit like that.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
At a wedding research out, I know that the Peanut
Gallery guys, right, yeah, but they.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Have six months give it six months, six months, six months,
six years years. No way, I'm the cynic. I won't
be the cynic. I mean other Jordan lived, they'll they'll
make it the distance. Beautiful couple. I don't know about
my boy denbo and Molly Denbo is he's he's he's
always grumpy. It's always grumpy. I don't know how that
(11:47):
works in the marriage.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But the crumpy muppets are named Statler and Wohldorf. I
would have never guessed that. You know what happened in
sports in two thousand and five, People remember that the
White Sox broke an eighty eight year drought. But what
I remember, right, yeah, I remember calling Drop calling a
(12:09):
bunch of reiters, and to go on record.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Was two fives like the news service.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Guys on roids Rafael Palmer. First of all, it was
it was classic. I love that Sammy Sosa All of
a sudden, Samy So is like, you'll know obling less,
so So is the best. They're like, uh, Sammy would
like to ask you about your steroid. US is like,
I know speaking English, I know speaking English? And then
(12:41):
they go to Rafael Palmarow who's like, he looks right
in the end of the camera and he's like, I
never ever used steroids, pointing at Congress ever period. What
happened the next baseball season, Raphael Palmaro pop for steroids.
It was classic.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Ah I do remember that NFL season. That was the
season the Seahawks ended up going to the Super Bowl.
But it was a great regular season. Super Bowl obviously
happened in two thousand and six for the.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
First try, so true betis from Detroit.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I did know that, but that regular season was a
It was a great regular season for the Seahawks leading.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Up to their Shawn Alexander was the MVP, wasn't he?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes, yes he was that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Matt Hasselbeck has was the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It was Encore, so it would have been Eminem's fifth album.
So I apologized, but it was Encore. I ended up
looking it up. Sam, Okay, that was the that was
the album.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, So Jay stew if you were going to drive
from Madison to Red Joe Kuckamonga even today, and we
actually discussed this on the podcast yesterday. A radio show
I don't remember, Pearl Jam ten would be one of
your albums. If you had a six disc.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Change, that's fifty two minutes of the twenty eight hours
of driving.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So I mean, but the question is if you had
a six six disc changer, right, not the iPods we
have now or the iPhones we have now, where you
have you know, thousands and thousands of songs, You can
only have six albums, Jay stew Will those six albums.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Be Rumors by Footwood Mac, the greatest album of all time,
Purple Rain by Prince I think ten would be in there.
Let's see, I'm gonna of all the Smith's albums, I'll
probably go Meet his Murder. Then I would go probably
something more recent, which is a I don't know if
you could do this, but anything by Kendall Lamar off
(14:37):
of the Damn Album, And then I would I would
go lay Back and anything off of Sergeant Pepper, Lonely
Heart Club band that makes six albums, six of the
most amazing albums of all time. And yes, I am
a music snob.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, I know you are.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, that's why I hesitate to talk about music as well.
I don't want to offend Jason Sense.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'll judge it's not offending he's just very very negative terse.
It's like talking Star Wars with Ryan, you know, like,
well I like that movie. He's, Oh, it's crap. It's crap,
like Brian, I mean, I liked it, but this is
inarguable that I liked it.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh we have we have some audio from Ryan Smith.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's a complete crap, exactly exactly what he says.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I do enjoy Coldplay, and my favorite album of theirs
is X and Y. It came out in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh, look at how you brought it back to the
actual segment.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yes, So that's that's also like, you know, like when
you have a summer like song that you like, remember
from back in the day and like where that summer was.
As I said, I had moved out to California and
so and I bought that album across the street at
the Tower Records that is no longer at the Galleria,
and I listened to it when I first moved out here.
A ton Doug, what are your six albums?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It's a great question.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It's like one of those awesome Instagram or TikTok kind
of challenges, like or the one that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I would completely scroll pasted right away.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know it's weird though. When
you do lists, it gets like so many more download
and so many more views. Right, you do a list, listicles, listicles. Okay,
this is a question to the music.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Stop Jason, you're on your cross country drive?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Am I allowed to do greatest hits?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I mean it's it's pretty unimaginative, but go ahead, No, no.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
No, it's okay. I mean then I I honestly wouldn't know, Like, uh,
the first two short album I ever had, I think
It's Too Short Life Is would be there because I
just honestly brings me back to my teenhood. Life is
too Short. Uh, the first Babyface album that had Tender
Lover on it and had whip appeal, that would be
(16:44):
on it. I think it's just Babyface Babyface. Maybe it's
baby Face tender Lover. I'm not sure. My problem with
my Billy Joel albums is like I have a live
album that he played on like Y two K, and
it's amazing. Other than that, I would I don't know
his different albums, but I do think for cruising a
(17:05):
Billy Joel album would be amazing. Pearl jam Ten would
absolutely like it's the iconic alternative grunge album. You have
to have it period.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Uh what else I like to do all the different genres?
Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I'm sorry, No, I was just gonna. I was gonna
say something. I actually think greatest hits should be allowed,
but I feel that sometimes when you take a greatest hits,
like Jason will have a lot of deep cuts from
his artists. But I think Journey's greatest hits is that
that would be great album definitely in my six But
(17:40):
I can't give you fifty Journey songs, but I know
those fifteen that are on that album. Yeah, I absolutely love.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
So Legend like Bob Marley's with that for me, I
could on Legend, Yes, yes, yes, A Queen has the
greatest hits. It's a blue and a one that's blue,
one that's burgundy, and there's like twenty tracks on each.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Hey, how come when they play that? How come when
they play we Will Rock You on the radio, they
also play we are we are the Champions.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Because they were they were made together and together kind
of like was it Zeppelin, Living?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Loving made?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And then there's the second song they I can't remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, It's kind of like the on the on Beatles
on Abbey Road. Everyone knows, uh carry that weight, but
it's a part of the Golden Slumbers. You can't hear
Golden Sumbers without carry that weight.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You need to have You need to have a Beatles
discussion with Darius Rucker because Darius will go into his
the Beatles are the most influential UH music group of
all time and not wrong like you in any album
you will ever hear has something from the Beatles in it.
And he has a new album which is coming out
this summer, and he recorded in London, and I was like,
(18:52):
did you recording London because of the Beatles? And he
goes a little bit of inspiration. But anyway, uh, the
early two thousand and five, don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
The greatest walk up music in all of sports radio
is with our next guest. I feel cool even though
this music isn't for me. I can't imagine what Mark
Medina feels he's our pox Sports Radio NBA insider. Okay,
so here's the question mark. We started the show with this,
and I apologize. I don't know if it's not a
(19:40):
double negative, but the sentence, probably in terms of forming
a sentence, is probably the wrong way to do it.
But which team of the two plane tonight, Lakers and
Warriors would you be less surprised by if they went
to an NBA finals. The Lakers are the Warriors.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
That's good question, and dog don't. I'm not a grammar policeman,
so all good there. I would choose the Warriors. Here's why.
The record speaks for self. They've been eighteen to two
since the Jimmy Butler trade. I think they're also a
better defensive team. I mean, Draymond Green is back in
the defensive Player of the Year conversation, and fairness to
the Lakers, surprisingly and to their credit, they have played
(20:21):
really good defense at a high level. Jackson Hayes has
been playing out of his mind, but there has also
been a lot of games where the defense has plateaued.
And so even though I think the Lakers are obviously
a danger out, a dangerous out, Lebron James, I think
has passed his growing injury. The Chemistruth He and Luca
Dodgics are only going to get better. They've produced some
(20:43):
good quality role players. I think the Warriors edg out
because of, you know, the defensive depth that they have.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, I I the MAVs clearly wanted a tank and
then they seem to get push into playing Anthonys. Now
they're winning games and Anthony Davis is amazing. Is anyone
else were outside of me? And maybe you gonna go
I know he's not Luca, but Anthony Davis is prettydamn amazing.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Yeah, I think both things can be true. I would
have done the Luca Doctics trade if if you know,
you go down that route. Maybe the MAVs could have
gotten more in return. But I think the broader point
that you're hitting on is the Mavericks didn't get you know,
scraps of sheet metal here in this trade. Anthony Davis
is playing at a high level, and I think that
here's some context here. Anthony Davis has been playing at
(21:30):
a high level the last two seasons with the Lakers,
so when he traded a d it wasn't under the
guys of you know what, He's injury prone, he's not
producing enough. It was under the guys of Luka Dogics
is a generational talent, we got to make this deal.
And so I think that's point number one, point number two.
Even though his Mavericks debut coincided with having an injury,
(21:51):
and he don't take those things lightly because of his
injury history, he has shown a lot better improvement these
last few years in coming back from injury and playing
through pain. So I haven't been surprised that he Ever
since he's come back in the lineup, he's hit the
ground floor running. I think that's a testament to you know,
how he's grown as a player with dealing with that.
(22:12):
But I think he's also very well aware there's a
lot of Mavericks fans upset about the trade. He wants
to at least play his part in doing right by
it and you know, giving the Mavericks a shot to
make the plan. And because Ad is on the floor,
that helps. It also helps that a lot of other
teams have gotten really really bad. Sacramento Phoenix without Kevin
Durant now, you know, the Memphis Grizzlies have I've sunk
(22:35):
ever since the you know, firing of Taylor Jenkins, so
almost by default, the Mavericks might get it in as
a play in.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
All right, we'll get to let's let's get to Taylor jenk.
Have we figured out why he was fired?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, the bottom
line is the Memphis Grizzlies made this calculation that they
had a ceiling in the playoffs. Things weren't going as
well as they could, so why not roll the dice
and see if they catch lighting in a bottle. So far,
the lighting has hit them for the worst. But it
wasn't surprising when you look at the big picture. They
imposed a lot of changes to his to his assistants
(23:09):
last summer, but it is surprised and they would do
it this late in the season. I think it's also
surprising that they did this even though John Moran's a
huge Taylor Jenkins fan and he had some frustrations with
the system this year. But it wasn't because Taylor Jenkins
was calling the shots. It's because the front office was imposing, Hey,
let's have a different kind of playbook, and part of
(23:31):
that had to do with John not having the ball
in his hands as much. So there's a lot of
weird things here where you feel like this is a
classic game of blackamole. You hit one thing and it
creates three new moles and three new problems.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
All right, Well, the team they did that last year
was the Phoenix Suns. Right. Last year you had Frank
who he wins what forty nine games? Then they fire him.
Now they're bringing Bud and this thing. I don't think
they're going to make the play in. Kevin Rant's not
(24:03):
going to play that thing's the mess. Does Phoenix room
this staff too.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
You wouldn't rule it out. I mean, we've seen matt
eshb as ownership track record that he's not afraid to
make drastic changes when it comes to coaches here. Now,
I know that he's been on record saying this idea
of we're going to tear it down and rebuild. We're
not in the business of doing that. We want to
win now. But the writing is on the wall here
that regardless of whether they keep Mike Bollenholzer or got
(24:30):
a new coach, structurally things aren't going to change. Kevin
Durant's playing an all time level. But you know, with
the fact that he hasn't agreed to an extension neither
of the Suns. It seems like inevitable. He's on his
way out. You know, Matt Aeshbie has been adamant he
would never trade Devin Booker, and I get it. Devin
Booker has been a pro an All Star caliber player.
(24:50):
He wants to be a son after getting drafted there
in twenty fifteen. But I just we've seen this formula
not work where they're throwing money at a lot of
players and they don't have enough depth around it, and
that's not enough stability that it seems inevitable if they
don't choose to go down to tear it down and
rebuild route, circumstances will force them to do those all.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm gonna give you three teams in the East, and
you rank them in order of the teams most likely
to get to the finals. Obviously, you know the three
teams Celtics, Knicks, Calves. Where are yes of today?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Yeah? Where I'm at is today. I choose the Celtics
over the Calves. We've talked about this earlier. You can
flip a coin seven game series. Here's where I choose
Celtics over Calves. They can afford an off night from
one of their star players versus the Cavaliers with Donovan Mitchell.
Both complete teams, a lot of good balance, but the
Celtics are able to adjust. Then I put Cavaliers because
(25:43):
they've been very consistent. The Knicks. I know it's nice
that Joe Brunson might come back soon, but it feels
like it could be too little, too late. So that's
the order here. The next will be a tough playoff out,
I mean, I think with exception though, once they get
to the second round.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Who's the playoff team the Thunder do not want to see?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Yeah, that's a good question. I think that there is
a lot of separation between the Thunder and the rest
of the field, So I think that they'll prevail from that,
barring major injuries to any of the players. But if
I had to choose, I think the Denver Nuggets would
be the most threatening because Nicola Jokich back as an
MVP caliber player. Their guys are healthier now, most notably
with Jamal Murray Aaron Gordon. They obviously have the championship experience.
(26:24):
Much different championship team obviously with their supporting cast. But
when you compare the Rockets that are still young, the
Warriors Lakers. Yeah, they could climb through that championship window.
But has this feeling that everything has to go right,
has to have lightning a bottle, that it's going to
be the Thunder and the Nuggets in the West Finals.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You're the best one, man, I mean, Mark Madeen. Of course,
these are Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider getting us ready
for Warriors Lakers tonight the NBA Playoffs just around the corner. Mark,
thanks to join us. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Doug, you're the best. To thank you for the intro music.
If I were a baseball plan, I want to want
it because I would strike out. But thankfully, if we're
just talking hoop sir does.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
It doesn't matter. All you got to do is get
a hit three out of ten times, get on base
four out of ten times, and you're you're in the
Hall of Fame. So ok, fair enough, it's game of failure.
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get to the press, the press.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
All right, Doug, it is Dan Buyer at the news desk.
I just decided to introduce myself, but I do want Iowa,
Sam and Jason Stewart in on this because it is
a bit of trivia time that it leads to our
first topic in the press. Bet online has geo tag
data from x in determining what states or which each
(29:20):
state is what team they're cheering for in the final four. Okay,
forty two states are on the side of one team.
You guys want to guess what team that is? Who
wants Duke? Forty two states are behind Duke. Are you
good with Duke? Sam and Jason? Would you like a
different option?
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I know I would say Duke. Yeah, I would say
more specifically, Cooper flag.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Okay, forty two states are rooting for the Houston Cougars.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Wow, more so than the other three schools. So most
of America wanting Houston to cut down the nets on
Monday Night in San Antonio love Cougars. In fact, Duke
only has two states that they that they won in
this geota. Maine, Okay, that's one.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Guess all right, Maine and Illinois.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
You say Maine in Illinois, you guys want to I'm
going to say North Carolina and Hawaii. Okay, both Carolinas
both Okay, you each got one?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Correct? It's North Carolina and Maine. Yes, with Cooper flag
being from Maine.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I I just would have thought that North Carolina was
Carolina fans or hate Duke.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
You would think so as well. You would probably think
that that maybe if the Crimson Tide fans a cheer
against Alabama, well, cheer against Auburn. That is not the case.
Auburn carries Alabama, State of Washington, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Well, Ohio, Wisconsin. That's the way to victory, isn't it.
Oh that's the election.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
And Florida has Florida and Hawaii in their back pocket.
So this the islands are cheering for the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Weather bias Aloha means hello and goodbye, mister hand.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Gino Smith didn't want to resign with Seattle with what
they were offering him, so the Seahawks traded him to
the Raiders, and now the Raiders have given Geno Smith
a two year extension worth eighty five and a half
million dollars. He gets sixty six point five million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Somebody explain it to me. Somebody explained it to I
get that. I don't understand it. Like, Gino Smith is
not going to make twenty million dollars a year to
play quarterback anywhere else? Why would you pay him thirty
three million dollars a year guaranteed for the next two years.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Because that the Seahawks were offering him somewhere around that.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I got it, But like, what are you gonna do?
Like that's your level. He's not that good. He's fine,
and there's not a single human being's like you know what.
I can't wait. I can't wait till Geno Smith plays
quarterback for my team.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Makes just shot if he reaches everything of forty two
million dollars a year, he was reports that he was
looking for forty to forty five as part of that extension.
So this adds on to the final year of his
current deal and then now takes him under contract through
twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm this contract actually kind of makes his famous saying
it makes as much sense as they wrote me off
and I did, I get.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
It right back.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, So this is I get your guy's stance on this.
But the Raiders aren't doing this deal unless they are
knowing that they are paying him his contract. And it's
also why Seattle is willing to let him go. So
they trade him for a third round pick, and the
Raiders are saying, what they just want a one year stopgapple,
Then why would they give up a third round pick.
(32:46):
It's kind of It's not exactly like but remember when
the Bears acquired Montes Sweats when they were out of
the playoffs. Yeah, like you're kind of tied into now
giving him an extension.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No question, you can't. You can't make that trade lest
you know you're getting I get it. My point is like,
at some point, you can in fact draw a hard
and fast dance. Hey, the Seahawks didn't want you. Nobody's
gonna sign you to a thirty million dollars year contract
in the NFL. Nobody except for us, So let's sign
twenty five years. I do twenty five for three more
than I would do you know, up to forty each
(33:18):
year for two? No chance? By the way, the Raiders
and Raider fans know this. We're on Las Vegas. Which
one of these is not like the other? Okay, you
got justin Herbert, justin Herbert Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes is
kind of good at this thing called football, right, sort
(33:40):
of good. Now. I don't know if you know long
term he's as good as he was last year. But
Bo Nicks or Gina.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Smith, see, I think Gino is better than you guys
are letting on. He just does throw interceptions. And the
question is going to be is if now that they have,
if they have a better offensive line than Las Vegas
will be able to cut down on the interceptions and
what is expected to be a more ball control offense.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Here's a question, how old is Gino Smith? Without looking,
guess it's thirty five? Sam, you want to take a shot, uh.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Man, do you come out West Virginia twenty twelve?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, thirty five?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, Jaseu, I'll go thirty three and a half thirty
uh thirty four, turned does thirty thirty five this year,
So he's sort of sneaky old. But he doesn't have
he doesn't run that much right, and it's not like
he's ever had a huge arm, so he's not gonna
lose an arm strength. I mean, I get what they're doing.
(34:42):
I still think they'll draft a young quarterback try and
develop him. I just think they overspent on it.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
I told Danny G the other day, I think they
are in the running for Jalen Milroe. That seems like
such a Raiders pick a guy.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Who throws it a mile. Yes, we don't know who
he throws in two and has athoticism yet.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, I ad dropping an name in the press today,
Danny G.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Danny G, Yes, if you know. And Rich. I also
think because Pete Carroll would love to use play action,
they did it with Russell Wilson. They would take four
or five shots every game early on or early on
in Russell Wilson's career, and that's how they would try
to get big plays, either with receptions or pass interference
or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, all that made sense, except for the fact that
you signed this guy to a deal that's like sixty
six guaranteed over two.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
John Morantle will not be suspended by the NBA for
mimicking the firing of a gun during Tuesday's game against
the Warriors. Also avoiding suspension Warriors guard Buddy Healed.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I mean, listen, what he did in and of itself
is not that big a deal. It's just when you
have multiple times you've had you know, stupid self with
guns and then point a gun to seventeen year old
who is playing hoopy your house, that's more like hmm.
Self awareness level on the on the NBA two K
rating is very very low, if non existent.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I don't know what Joe Dumars's title is with the NBA,
but I think it has the word discipline in it.
Where's the discipline in warning a guy that you've already
suspended for violation?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I agree, I agree real hard this, and I think
that the NBA is just done with it. Like I
think they're just you know, just all right, just whatever,
just okay, that was dumb.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Gary in Memphis. Nobody cares.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I think that they feel like it would be more
of a problem if they did hand out a penalty.
And I think they are able to avoid that because
Buddy Heal did it as well. But by no means
I mean Gilbert Arenas. You know, the whole thing, Like
the reason why his suspension was laid down was because
it was fake gun shooting thing that he did in
the huddle that David Stern didn't like. Sixers are going
(36:42):
to shut Tyreese Maxi down for the rest of the season,
Doug Jalen Brunson could be back on Saturday for the Knicks,
and Jedi Broom practiced today for Auburn. Should be good
to go Saturday against Florida. And that's the press. They
get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
All right, Lakers Warriors tonight, count me down coming in
the Warriors. We'll be back to discuss tomorrow from the
final Ford's Dougatlie Show, Fox Sports Radio.
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