April 15, 2025 • 23 mins
Doug riffs about Nico Harrison and his claim that he has no regrets about the Luka Doncic deal. Doug reacts to Paul Pierce's take on Kevin Durant. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. Plus, Pat Beverley returns in this installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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I Art Radio, welcome in. So I gotta tell you,
I am I think super enthused, encouraged even by by
(00:33):
Nico Harrison being steadfast in his support of Nico Harrison.
It reminds me of when Carmelo Anthony was drafted. He's like,
I like to think myself for all my hard work.
I like Nico. I know him some I know people
who know him. I don't really understand his latest tactic.
Not that meeting with the media is a bad thing,
(00:55):
and not that he has to change his opinion. And
you know, saying Anthony Davis is a two way player,
all that is good. But I even think the remark
about having no regrets is a bit tone deaf. You know,
there's a way to say you have no regrets without
(01:17):
being so firm with it. I have no regrets outside
of wishing Kyrie had not toward his ACL. I have
no regrets outside of what I have liked to get
more for Luka Tacik, of course, but for whatever reason,
at that point in time. This was the most we
could have gotten. So I get, I don't think, and
(01:37):
I don't know why you don't have a TV camera
in there other than to talk about some things that
he doesn't want to have talked about. But you allowed
others in there, and they could take Kobe's notes as
as they got out of it, and they relayed those
ads to everybody on social media. There's lots of things
that have led to being anybody can see his mistake.
(01:58):
And it's not about where he picks to go to
school that makes it a mistake, right or excuse me.
It's not about the actual trade or the outcome that
makes it a trade. Just this is what I was thinking.
This is what we tried to execute, you know by now,
based upon the leaks, what else was available to us
(02:20):
out there, and we chose to do something dynamic. And
you can sit here in your mind and say we
think the trade was a bust. It may be in
your mind, but how about we give it until we
get Kyrie and Anthony Davis on the floor for half
a season before you ever say that. That's a realistic
(02:43):
thing to say, right, And again, what you do, what
you do when you don't let people in or don't
let people with your cameras, is you act as if
there's going to be something said, some secret, but you're
allowing people to take notes, so there is no secrets.
Only you're giving off this thing like you're trying to
(03:05):
hide something I don't know. I like Nico obviously, he
and everybody else in that organization massively underestimated the pushback
when you trade away Luca. But how you handle that pushback,
how you who you shelter, et cetera, et cetera for
(03:30):
yourself from these things all matter? And yeah, it's just
a weird path that the Mavericks are going down.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
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Speaker 2 (03:47):
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Here's Brady Quinn, former domer and NFL quarterback, talking about
Yites State Senate getting involved in the nil matter in
(04:09):
college sports.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
These three major components are important because they basically help
college football get back to some sort of foundation and structure,
so we're not dealing with a lot of what we're hearing,
for example, with the nico Ia Maliava situation. So the
first would be a federal preemption of any state based
NIL bill. What that essentially means is the federal law
(04:32):
will rule over state law. The second would be a
declaration that athletes are students and not employees, which is
interesting and key in all of this, and I think
it's key for keeping the academic component as part of
how they're able to participate. Third, a limited anti trust
(04:52):
exemption that would allow the NCAA and major conferences to
enforce eligibility and transfer rules without fear or liability. And
that's probably the most important because whether it's the NCAA
and it's interesting how this is warded and major conferences
because the reality is the power for conferences that exists
(05:14):
control college football and that's the really the biggest bread winner, moneymaker,
however you want to phrase it. The NCAA cares more
about the college basketball term. That's how they line their pockets.
So the third piece is the biggest, they're.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
All big, they're all big. Basically, they want anti trust
exemption and if the NCAA gets that, then that it
frees them up from everything else you're worried about. Doesn't
matter the rule because you feel like it won't stand
up in court. Right, That's the sad reality to where
we are with it. Sad reality, and I honestly think, honestly,
(05:58):
truthfully think that that's why Charlie Baker was named president.
That's the expectations and he can only deliver. He has
done his job as president of the NCAA. If they get
antrust anti trust exemption on ni L and on transfer
policy as well as some other policies. If they do that,
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it's a success. The NCAA will be able to survive
this and be better because of it. If not, it'll
be messy for years to come until there's some form
of new NCAA type body which will focus primarily on
the bigger schools, the money making schools, and I don't
think that's what's best for everyone. Here's Paul Pierce talking
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about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I hate to say it, and not in a negative way,
but he really is is.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No seriously all.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
But that's what comes with guys like KD. Because when
you have a guy of Kd's caliber like him and Lebron,
expectations come with them. So as a coach, if you
don't fulfill those expectations, always on the hot seat. And
that's why you've seen so many different coaches from Lebron
and also KD.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But there's there's only a few guys that you could
put in that category, and those two are the guys.
But he's definitely a coach because you look up he
has in seventeen years, eight nine coaches. It's just expanitations come,
and rightfully so because of who KD is to where
if they don't perform at a certain level, then they
bringing somebody else in. It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Uh yeah, I mean again again, if we're making Mike
Budenholzer's ouster k D's fault, I think you guys are
missing the point completely. We talked about the some of
the radio show. We'll talk about it here. Bud has
Bud has not been well liked, but in a lot
of places, the story goes that he lost Brad Beale
(07:50):
when he told Brad Beal he could be this team's
Drew Holiday, and again I don't. I obviously think Brad
Beal took it the wrong way. I think we all
hear it and we're like, yeah, did If you be
the second best player, A two A player, you can
be a Hall of Favor with less stats. I understand
what he's saying, but you have to read the room,
and Bud has it ever read the room? This is
(08:11):
Colin Cowher talking about Luka Doncik and international players being
the face of their league.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think it was stephen A that started this that
international players I think can't be the face of the league.
I disagree. I said this an hour ago. Connor McGregor.
The UFC was never more popular than when Connor McGregor
was the face MESSI is now the face of the MLS,
and I mean literally breaking gate records. I would argue
Rory McElroy, who stayed with the PGA did not go
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to the live tour after Sunday, is the face of golf.
I would argue Ovechkin for the last twenty years is
the most discussed hockey player with a Sidney Crosby O
Tawny comes up the freeway. I five is the face
of baseball. My take is, if the Lakers won a
title and Lebron retired, Luca now here me out. Is
(09:00):
the face of the NBA. If Lebron retire, why because
they'd be a great team. He'd be a Laker. But
Luca does something that domestic players do. He trash hawks, fans.
He trash he's us. He is not the international player
that's polite and loyal. He drinks beer after games. They
have to take it front of me. He's yelling at fans.
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I think he is the face of the league if
Lebron retired him. I think international players can be I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Think it comes down to international players. I really don't.
I do think there's something to guys that come up
in our system and you know they you know, like
a Zion was the perfect one. And now obviously we
know it's going to be Cooper Flag where a guy
who played AU basketball, eybl team, USA's junior team, played
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at Duke, played a Final four, then played in the NBA.
Like that's what kind of builds it up for you.
But you can break through as a foreign athlete, you
have to have a big personality. I do think Luca
has a big enough personality. I think Embiide has a
big enough personality. He's just been hurt too much. Uh, Jannis,
(10:18):
I think he has a great personality. Like I like him.
I don't think he's as comfortable in front of the
cameras as Luca is. So Colin's not wrong, But he
also would have to show me that he's comparing it
to Connor McGregor, Like, yeah, that's a bit of a
stretch in major league profess in major professional sports in
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the United States, Give me a foreign player. I mean,
as popular as Otani is, is he and as good
as he is the best baseball player we've ever seen?
Is he far and away? Is he the most popular
or does he rise the level of popularity in the league.
He does not, So maybe it comes down to a
native Englishman. Not sure what it comes down to, but
(11:02):
I do think that we're more evolved than we used
to be. But let's not kid our kid ourselves. We
still want to see Americans be the best, especially in
sport like basketball.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Don't don't as examples, don't as examples prove the opposite
point his example of MESSI like breaking gate records, Okay,
but no one's talking about the MLS ove' can be
in the face of hockey for the last twenty years,
nobody talks about hockey.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Also in hockey like Russian stars are nothing new either.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Also true, but but it's been proven that that having
Russian star players like alex Ovechkin like he I think.
I think Jase Tew's point is the is the correct one.
Like hockey is incredibly unimportant in the grand scheme of things,
and yet alex Ovechkin has been playing and been one
of not the best player for twenty years. You're kind
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of proving your point by trying to make the opposite point.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, and as someone who really likes the messy thing
is it is eighty percent pr from MLS. They've put
a lot behind this, and again you can point to
the gate all you want, but it's it's not pushing
MLS to to any kind of status to compete with
Big three.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yep, that's what the fuck said, I'd say.
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Speaker 2 (12:27):
App Stug gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Trading
let's find out who are what's annoying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug, speaking of sports
leagues that try to convince us that they're a big deal,
but they're not. The WNBA had their annual draft last night.
I sent on the show group text earlier in the day,
a USA Today feature story on page Beckers it's Becker's
(12:59):
not how was she going to impact the WNBA? And
the picture that went with the caption was a picture
of not Paigebeckers. It was the other blonde who ended
up going to Chicago. I want to say her name
is Van wid Then Iowa Sam, on the same group text,
(13:21):
replied all with yet another mistake. I think it was
the Big ten network put names of players that were
not the player's picture. And then this happened in the
middle of the draft last night. I'm here with Anissa
and Rikia and we are holding it down right now.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh sorry, go ahead, my bad.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's okay. Sorry a giant Zellers. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
That is embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No, it's okay.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
At the wrong card, I'm so sorry, go ahead, my bad.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
I was like, Naya, your outfit is amazing.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So if you couldn't make that out, it was a
reporter paid to cover the event misidentifying the woman right
next to her. And this kind of speaks to a
larger thing for me. If they want to be one
of the uh one of the major players in sports,
people need to know who they are, and that starts
with the people covering them and the people paid to
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promote them. Multiple mistakes yesterday proving that nobody knows who
these women are.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Doug, I'm sorry, no, no, nobody. I mean, look, I'm
not sure if you realize you're watching the NBA now,
but many of the commercials there have spokespeople or have
celebrities who are WNBA stars, and it's it's so forced
that they actually have to say their name in the ad.
You're like, oh, that's who that is. So if the
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WNBA does not if the WNBA does not make it
or does not use this the leverage they have because
they have a a least comment and a Caitlin Clark,
then all you need to know. All you need to
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know is that it wasn't for lack of trying from everybody.
Corporate America is doing their absolute best to bend over backwards.
Last night there was essentially nothing going on in sports
other than some baseball games trying and it's still, again
to me, not really interesting, but again doesn't matter because
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they're putting these people on ads and we have to
label them.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Doug, are you following the story with the Braves reporter
getting the number of a person on the air last night?
I'll play it for you. This was during the Braves broadcast.
We're having a lot of fun out here off the
coroner rooftop.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Who do we got you? What's your name? My name
is Lauren Laurence, all right, and I'm Kayla Kyla. And
you guys hang out the rooftop lounge often.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Once a year I come out to visit.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Okay, we timed it pretty well, all right? Good How
are you guys feeling root for the Braves today? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I'm hoping for the beus.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
What about you? Are you Braves fan?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Now?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Not?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Quiet?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well?
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Quite?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
All right?
Speaker 8 (16:12):
I'm gonna go to work up here, guys. Good luck
the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we got five innings,
four innings to get the numbers.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Come on it, get us some more Braves fans, all right?
Speaker 8 (16:25):
So they want me to get your number. They want
you to get I'm dead serious. They're saying, to my right,
I shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are
are not making this up. Even if you guys weren't,
I might use that in the future. That's actually pretty
good move. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
So the best part of this right now is that
Wiley could totally be faking.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
This might be the new move.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
You just walk around with a fan duel microphone and
an ear piecing and convinced fans that they're actually on TV.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I should have thought of this years ago. I am speechless.
I got the number. We're good.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
So that was a bravest reporter Wiley Ballard seemed to
be kind of challenged to get this woman's number, and
she gave it up instantaneously. Now that's not the story.
The story is the blowback. So that was redistributed often
last night on social media, and then guys would obviously
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be like, man, you got to take your shot. You
got to respect this setting a new standard. And so
here a couple replies Doug Devin Caney Eagles sideline reporter, Hey,
if you think that's cool, imagine the reaction of roles
were reversed and it was a woman asking hope this
helps Lindsey Young Vikings reporter setting the standard. If the
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genders are flipped in the scenario and it was a
woman reporter doing the exact same thing, it would be
considered appalling. Abby Mestraco another reporter setting the standard. It's
incredibly low, unprofessional standard to set. I don't know where
I come out on this. I think there it's an
overreaction from the female reporters. I think this was pretty
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light and fun. And just imagine this, Doug, if they
actually become a couple, even if they are betrothed at
some point, this is the best icebreaker. How did you
to meet? You know that small talk like if you're
at a wedding or something with strangers, Hey, how did
you to meet? This is great. I think that that's
(18:26):
that's the win here. If he gets fired or if
he gets canceled, if he gets the number and marries her,
he's got the best how did you meet? Story of
all time?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Got it? I just think people need to get the
fuck over themselves, like I completely, First of all, why
can't we have a legitimate discussion about shit, which is
single men are going to pick up on single women
(18:57):
and that's okay. Now I don't know that's what was
taking place here, truthfully, or if Vienn he's playing her
longest part whatever, but if he's single and they're single,
like who, what the fuck do you care? You know,
it's fucking fun. And by the way, like again, like
I have I have two friends who are sidelight reporters
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who are married now to people who they met on
the job. On the job, Now, if it stops you
from doing your job or your leaking details or is
something nefarious, or if the guy is married the girl
is married, that's different. But what the fuck are you
worried about somebody else's life. Let's telly, I'm professional. It's
fucking Major League Baseball. They do all kinds like you know,
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you do shit where it's like this guy just going
downe chugging a beer. Let's you know, you interview all
kinds of people in the regular season. Who cares so tired?
So just silent women's sidelight reporters get the fuck over yourselves, Okay,
stop it, stop it. It's like there's there's a woman,
there's several of them. But I know there's one woman,
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and I think you know who she is, who gives
out picks on a daily basis. But every time she
gives out picks on social media, she's walking and bouncing
her boobs and she's got really big boobs. Now I'm
not taking any betting advice really from anybody, but especially
not somebody who leads with their boobs, like I just
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you know, like I'm not and I don't. I'm not
that big a boob guy that I want to. I've actually,
i think blocked or muted her because it just became
annoying at some point. But she has a following. She
gives picks. She works for somebody who gives her money
to give these picks, and there's like there's like a
what's the word. There's a small group of people that
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do this for a living, Like they give out picks
and they're all relatively attractive women, and they only have
their job because they show a little cleavage or a
little leg on a daily basis. Like whatever, that's okay,
that's their in. It's not act like this is. You're
not Walter fucking Cronkite. If you're doing sideline for the
braves game, right. I just think people need to get
(21:08):
the fuck over themselves. As as long as women don't
think the guys being slimy, as long as everybody's single,
as long as it's tongue planted firmly in chee. Can
we know there's lines there and he didn't crossing of
those lines, Shut the actual fuck up and get over yourself.
I don't even think you need to have a list.
(21:29):
That's just so goddamn annoying. It wins people who take
sideline reporters to be so in regular season games that
mean absolutely nothing to be the end all be all.
You're fucking annoying.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I do.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Because we can.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I guess there's going to be some kind of one
on one league. And Brandon Jennings, former NBIA player, was
talking ship to Pat Beverly. You don't talk shipped to
Pat Beverly.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Won't be one tournament happened June first? Happened to June first?
Laugh here, laugh here. They say Pat Beav can't play
Quoted Brandon Jennings said, Pat Beav can't play to one
B one tournament because I didn't average ten points in
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's what he said.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Yeah, But then I looked up okay, cool, that's fine.
You know, fucker scared, They're scared, you feel me. Also
looked up playoff numbers and me and Brandon Jennis average
the same amount of points in the playoffs. Oh my goodness,
and I averaged Morrissis and rebound. So I'm trying to see,
do they not want to play me? They know any
one of motherfuckers, any one of mother fuckers in any
one of you motherfuckers lou Will, Jeff T, Brandon Jennis,
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motherfucker I lost, any one of the motherfuckers. No, boy,
you're gonna call with me. I'm a dog, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Ass Yeah there, You know, I don't. I didn't enjoy
it of that ship anyway. I just don't. Those guys
are all really talented guys. Obviously, Brandon James was crazy talented,
but didn't become a great pro ty lawson. You know,
(23:04):
he had some off the court issues whatever. Like I'm
kind of rooting for him as he's gotten clean, gotten clean.
I think he was a He had a drinking problem,
right that was publicized, and then you know pap Bev
likes to talk about pap BEV. I just don't give
a shit honestly, that that whole conversation could be annoying,
but instead, why do we play for you? Because we can't.
That's it for the end of the Bonus Podcast. I
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(23:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug Gottlieb's show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Art Radio, welcome in. So I gotta tell you,
I am I think super enthused, encouraged even by by
(00:33):
Nico Harrison being steadfast in his support of Nico Harrison.
It reminds me of when Carmelo Anthony was drafted. He's like,
I like to think myself for all my hard work.
I like Nico. I know him some I know people
who know him. I don't really understand his latest tactic.
Not that meeting with the media is a bad thing,
(00:55):
and not that he has to change his opinion. And
you know, saying Anthony Davis is a two way player,
all that is good. But I even think the remark
about having no regrets is a bit tone deaf. You know,
there's a way to say you have no regrets without
(01:17):
being so firm with it. I have no regrets outside
of wishing Kyrie had not toward his ACL. I have
no regrets outside of what I have liked to get
more for Luka Tacik, of course, but for whatever reason,
at that point in time. This was the most we
could have gotten. So I get, I don't think, and
(01:37):
I don't know why you don't have a TV camera
in there other than to talk about some things that
he doesn't want to have talked about. But you allowed
others in there, and they could take Kobe's notes as
as they got out of it, and they relayed those
ads to everybody on social media. There's lots of things
that have led to being anybody can see his mistake.
(01:58):
And it's not about where he picks to go to
school that makes it a mistake, right or excuse me.
It's not about the actual trade or the outcome that
makes it a trade. Just this is what I was thinking.
This is what we tried to execute, you know by now,
based upon the leaks, what else was available to us
(02:20):
out there, and we chose to do something dynamic. And
you can sit here in your mind and say we
think the trade was a bust. It may be in
your mind, but how about we give it until we
get Kyrie and Anthony Davis on the floor for half
a season before you ever say that. That's a realistic
(02:43):
thing to say, right, And again, what you do, what
you do when you don't let people in or don't
let people with your cameras, is you act as if
there's going to be something said, some secret, but you're
allowing people to take notes, so there is no secrets.
Only you're giving off this thing like you're trying to
(03:05):
hide something I don't know. I like Nico obviously, he
and everybody else in that organization massively underestimated the pushback
when you trade away Luca. But how you handle that pushback,
how you who you shelter, et cetera, et cetera for
(03:30):
yourself from these things all matter? And yeah, it's just
a weird path that the Mavericks are going down.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Let's get to the Fox Sys and now every day,
this time in the Bonus podcast here on the Doug
gottlib Show, Fox Sports Tradio. Play for your portion of
a previous show on Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports One.
Here's Brady Quinn, former domer and NFL quarterback, talking about
Yites State Senate getting involved in the nil matter in
(04:09):
college sports.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
These three major components are important because they basically help
college football get back to some sort of foundation and structure,
so we're not dealing with a lot of what we're hearing,
for example, with the nico Ia Maliava situation. So the
first would be a federal preemption of any state based
NIL bill. What that essentially means is the federal law
(04:32):
will rule over state law. The second would be a
declaration that athletes are students and not employees, which is
interesting and key in all of this, and I think
it's key for keeping the academic component as part of
how they're able to participate. Third, a limited anti trust
(04:52):
exemption that would allow the NCAA and major conferences to
enforce eligibility and transfer rules without fear or liability. And
that's probably the most important because whether it's the NCAA
and it's interesting how this is warded and major conferences
because the reality is the power for conferences that exists
(05:14):
control college football and that's the really the biggest bread winner, moneymaker,
however you want to phrase it. The NCAA cares more
about the college basketball term. That's how they line their pockets.
So the third piece is the biggest, they're.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
All big, they're all big. Basically, they want anti trust
exemption and if the NCAA gets that, then that it
frees them up from everything else you're worried about. Doesn't
matter the rule because you feel like it won't stand
up in court. Right, That's the sad reality to where
we are with it. Sad reality, and I honestly think, honestly,
(05:58):
truthfully think that that's why Charlie Baker was named president.
That's the expectations and he can only deliver. He has
done his job as president of the NCAA. If they get
antrust anti trust exemption on ni L and on transfer
policy as well as some other policies. If they do that,
(06:19):
it's a success. The NCAA will be able to survive
this and be better because of it. If not, it'll
be messy for years to come until there's some form
of new NCAA type body which will focus primarily on
the bigger schools, the money making schools, and I don't
think that's what's best for everyone. Here's Paul Pierce talking
(06:43):
about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I hate to say it, and not in a negative way,
but he really is is.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No seriously all.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
But that's what comes with guys like KD. Because when
you have a guy of Kd's caliber like him and Lebron,
expectations come with them. So as a coach, if you
don't fulfill those expectations, always on the hot seat. And
that's why you've seen so many different coaches from Lebron
and also KD.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But there's there's only a few guys that you could
put in that category, and those two are the guys.
But he's definitely a coach because you look up he
has in seventeen years, eight nine coaches. It's just expanitations come,
and rightfully so because of who KD is to where
if they don't perform at a certain level, then they
bringing somebody else in. It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Uh yeah, I mean again again, if we're making Mike
Budenholzer's ouster k D's fault, I think you guys are
missing the point completely. We talked about the some of
the radio show. We'll talk about it here. Bud has
Bud has not been well liked, but in a lot
of places, the story goes that he lost Brad Beale
(07:50):
when he told Brad Beal he could be this team's
Drew Holiday, and again I don't. I obviously think Brad
Beal took it the wrong way. I think we all
hear it and we're like, yeah, did If you be
the second best player, A two A player, you can
be a Hall of Favor with less stats. I understand
what he's saying, but you have to read the room,
and Bud has it ever read the room? This is
(08:11):
Colin Cowher talking about Luka Doncik and international players being
the face of their league.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think it was stephen A that started this that
international players I think can't be the face of the league.
I disagree. I said this an hour ago. Connor McGregor.
The UFC was never more popular than when Connor McGregor
was the face MESSI is now the face of the MLS,
and I mean literally breaking gate records. I would argue
Rory McElroy, who stayed with the PGA did not go
(08:39):
to the live tour after Sunday, is the face of golf.
I would argue Ovechkin for the last twenty years is
the most discussed hockey player with a Sidney Crosby O
Tawny comes up the freeway. I five is the face
of baseball. My take is, if the Lakers won a
title and Lebron retired, Luca now here me out. Is
(09:00):
the face of the NBA. If Lebron retire, why because
they'd be a great team. He'd be a Laker. But
Luca does something that domestic players do. He trash hawks, fans.
He trash he's us. He is not the international player
that's polite and loyal. He drinks beer after games. They
have to take it front of me. He's yelling at fans.
(09:21):
I think he is the face of the league if
Lebron retired him. I think international players can be I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Think it comes down to international players. I really don't.
I do think there's something to guys that come up
in our system and you know they you know, like
a Zion was the perfect one. And now obviously we
know it's going to be Cooper Flag where a guy
who played AU basketball, eybl team, USA's junior team, played
(09:56):
at Duke, played a Final four, then played in the NBA.
Like that's what kind of builds it up for you.
But you can break through as a foreign athlete, you
have to have a big personality. I do think Luca
has a big enough personality. I think Embiide has a
big enough personality. He's just been hurt too much. Uh, Jannis,
(10:18):
I think he has a great personality. Like I like him.
I don't think he's as comfortable in front of the
cameras as Luca is. So Colin's not wrong, But he
also would have to show me that he's comparing it
to Connor McGregor, Like, yeah, that's a bit of a
stretch in major league profess in major professional sports in
(10:39):
the United States, Give me a foreign player. I mean,
as popular as Otani is, is he and as good
as he is the best baseball player we've ever seen?
Is he far and away? Is he the most popular
or does he rise the level of popularity in the league.
He does not, So maybe it comes down to a
native Englishman. Not sure what it comes down to, but
(11:02):
I do think that we're more evolved than we used
to be. But let's not kid our kid ourselves. We
still want to see Americans be the best, especially in
sport like basketball.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Don't don't as examples, don't as examples prove the opposite
point his example of MESSI like breaking gate records, Okay,
but no one's talking about the MLS ove' can be
in the face of hockey for the last twenty years,
nobody talks about hockey.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Also in hockey like Russian stars are nothing new either.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Also true, but but it's been proven that that having
Russian star players like alex Ovechkin like he I think.
I think Jase Tew's point is the is the correct one.
Like hockey is incredibly unimportant in the grand scheme of things,
and yet alex Ovechkin has been playing and been one
of not the best player for twenty years. You're kind
(11:56):
of proving your point by trying to make the opposite point.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, and as someone who really likes the messy thing
is it is eighty percent pr from MLS. They've put
a lot behind this, and again you can point to
the gate all you want, but it's it's not pushing
MLS to to any kind of status to compete with
Big three.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yep, that's what the fuck said, I'd say.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
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Speaker 6 (12:36):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug, speaking of sports
leagues that try to convince us that they're a big deal,
but they're not. The WNBA had their annual draft last night.
I sent on the show group text earlier in the day,
a USA Today feature story on page Beckers it's Becker's
(12:59):
not how was she going to impact the WNBA? And
the picture that went with the caption was a picture
of not Paigebeckers. It was the other blonde who ended
up going to Chicago. I want to say her name
is Van wid Then Iowa Sam, on the same group text,
(13:21):
replied all with yet another mistake. I think it was
the Big ten network put names of players that were
not the player's picture. And then this happened in the
middle of the draft last night. I'm here with Anissa
and Rikia and we are holding it down right now.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh sorry, go ahead, my bad.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's okay. Sorry a giant Zellers. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
That is embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No, it's okay.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
At the wrong card, I'm so sorry, go ahead, my bad.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
I was like, Naya, your outfit is amazing.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So if you couldn't make that out, it was a
reporter paid to cover the event misidentifying the woman right
next to her. And this kind of speaks to a
larger thing for me. If they want to be one
of the uh one of the major players in sports,
people need to know who they are, and that starts
with the people covering them and the people paid to
(14:19):
promote them. Multiple mistakes yesterday proving that nobody knows who
these women are.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Doug, I'm sorry, no, no, nobody. I mean, look, I'm
not sure if you realize you're watching the NBA now,
but many of the commercials there have spokespeople or have
celebrities who are WNBA stars, and it's it's so forced
that they actually have to say their name in the ad.
You're like, oh, that's who that is. So if the
(14:50):
WNBA does not if the WNBA does not make it
or does not use this the leverage they have because
they have a a least comment and a Caitlin Clark,
then all you need to know. All you need to
(15:10):
know is that it wasn't for lack of trying from everybody.
Corporate America is doing their absolute best to bend over backwards.
Last night there was essentially nothing going on in sports
other than some baseball games trying and it's still, again
to me, not really interesting, but again doesn't matter because
(15:31):
they're putting these people on ads and we have to
label them.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Doug, are you following the story with the Braves reporter
getting the number of a person on the air last night?
I'll play it for you. This was during the Braves broadcast.
We're having a lot of fun out here off the
coroner rooftop.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Who do we got you? What's your name? My name
is Lauren Laurence, all right, and I'm Kayla Kyla. And
you guys hang out the rooftop lounge often.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Once a year I come out to visit.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Okay, we timed it pretty well, all right? Good How
are you guys feeling root for the Braves today? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I'm hoping for the beus.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
What about you? Are you Braves fan?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Now?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Not?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Quiet?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well?
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Quite?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
All right?
Speaker 8 (16:12):
I'm gonna go to work up here, guys. Good luck
the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we got five innings,
four innings to get the numbers.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Come on it, get us some more Braves fans, all right?
Speaker 8 (16:25):
So they want me to get your number. They want
you to get I'm dead serious. They're saying, to my right,
I shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are
are not making this up. Even if you guys weren't,
I might use that in the future. That's actually pretty
good move. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
So the best part of this right now is that
Wiley could totally be faking.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
This might be the new move.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
You just walk around with a fan duel microphone and
an ear piecing and convinced fans that they're actually on TV.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I should have thought of this years ago. I am speechless.
I got the number. We're good.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
So that was a bravest reporter Wiley Ballard seemed to
be kind of challenged to get this woman's number, and
she gave it up instantaneously. Now that's not the story.
The story is the blowback. So that was redistributed often
last night on social media, and then guys would obviously
(17:21):
be like, man, you got to take your shot. You
got to respect this setting a new standard. And so
here a couple replies Doug Devin Caney Eagles sideline reporter, Hey,
if you think that's cool, imagine the reaction of roles
were reversed and it was a woman asking hope this
helps Lindsey Young Vikings reporter setting the standard. If the
(17:43):
genders are flipped in the scenario and it was a
woman reporter doing the exact same thing, it would be
considered appalling. Abby Mestraco another reporter setting the standard. It's
incredibly low, unprofessional standard to set. I don't know where
I come out on this. I think there it's an
overreaction from the female reporters. I think this was pretty
(18:05):
light and fun. And just imagine this, Doug, if they
actually become a couple, even if they are betrothed at
some point, this is the best icebreaker. How did you
to meet? You know that small talk like if you're
at a wedding or something with strangers, Hey, how did
you to meet? This is great. I think that that's
(18:26):
that's the win here. If he gets fired or if
he gets canceled, if he gets the number and marries her,
he's got the best how did you meet? Story of
all time?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Got it? I just think people need to get the
fuck over themselves, like I completely, First of all, why
can't we have a legitimate discussion about shit, which is
single men are going to pick up on single women
(18:57):
and that's okay. Now I don't know that's what was
taking place here, truthfully, or if Vienn he's playing her
longest part whatever, but if he's single and they're single,
like who, what the fuck do you care? You know,
it's fucking fun. And by the way, like again, like
I have I have two friends who are sidelight reporters
(19:17):
who are married now to people who they met on
the job. On the job, Now, if it stops you
from doing your job or your leaking details or is
something nefarious, or if the guy is married the girl
is married, that's different. But what the fuck are you
worried about somebody else's life. Let's telly, I'm professional. It's
fucking Major League Baseball. They do all kinds like you know,
(19:40):
you do shit where it's like this guy just going
downe chugging a beer. Let's you know, you interview all
kinds of people in the regular season. Who cares so tired?
So just silent women's sidelight reporters get the fuck over yourselves, Okay,
stop it, stop it. It's like there's there's a woman,
there's several of them. But I know there's one woman,
(20:01):
and I think you know who she is, who gives
out picks on a daily basis. But every time she
gives out picks on social media, she's walking and bouncing
her boobs and she's got really big boobs. Now I'm
not taking any betting advice really from anybody, but especially
not somebody who leads with their boobs, like I just
(20:23):
you know, like I'm not and I don't. I'm not
that big a boob guy that I want to. I've actually,
i think blocked or muted her because it just became
annoying at some point. But she has a following. She
gives picks. She works for somebody who gives her money
to give these picks, and there's like there's like a
what's the word. There's a small group of people that
(20:45):
do this for a living, Like they give out picks
and they're all relatively attractive women, and they only have
their job because they show a little cleavage or a
little leg on a daily basis. Like whatever, that's okay,
that's their in. It's not act like this is. You're
not Walter fucking Cronkite. If you're doing sideline for the
braves game, right. I just think people need to get
(21:08):
the fuck over themselves. As as long as women don't
think the guys being slimy, as long as everybody's single,
as long as it's tongue planted firmly in chee. Can
we know there's lines there and he didn't crossing of
those lines, Shut the actual fuck up and get over yourself.
I don't even think you need to have a list.
(21:29):
That's just so goddamn annoying. It wins people who take
sideline reporters to be so in regular season games that
mean absolutely nothing to be the end all be all.
You're fucking annoying.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I do.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Because we can.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I guess there's going to be some kind of one
on one league. And Brandon Jennings, former NBIA player, was
talking ship to Pat Beverly. You don't talk shipped to
Pat Beverly.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Won't be one tournament happened June first? Happened to June first?
Laugh here, laugh here. They say Pat Beav can't play
Quoted Brandon Jennings said, Pat Beav can't play to one
B one tournament because I didn't average ten points in
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's what he said.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Yeah, But then I looked up okay, cool, that's fine.
You know, fucker scared, They're scared, you feel me. Also
looked up playoff numbers and me and Brandon Jennis average
the same amount of points in the playoffs. Oh my goodness,
and I averaged Morrissis and rebound. So I'm trying to see,
do they not want to play me? They know any
one of motherfuckers, any one of mother fuckers in any
one of you motherfuckers lou Will, Jeff T, Brandon Jennis,
(22:38):
motherfucker I lost, any one of the motherfuckers. No, boy,
you're gonna call with me. I'm a dog, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Ass Yeah there, You know, I don't. I didn't enjoy
it of that ship anyway. I just don't. Those guys
are all really talented guys. Obviously, Brandon James was crazy talented,
but didn't become a great pro ty lawson. You know,
(23:04):
he had some off the court issues whatever. Like I'm
kind of rooting for him as he's gotten clean, gotten clean.
I think he was a He had a drinking problem,
right that was publicized, and then you know pap Bev
likes to talk about pap BEV. I just don't give
a shit honestly, that that whole conversation could be annoying,
but instead, why do we play for you? Because we can't.
That's it for the end of the Bonus Podcast. I
got the radio show every day three to five Eastern,
(23:25):
told to Pacific Foxford Tradio, iHeart radio app. I'm Doug Gottlieb.
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