April 17, 2025 • 22 mins
Doug riffs on the Nico Iamaleava situation and NIL in general. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take about Caitlin Clark. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. And Lebron James makes today's version of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, you know this is the Doug gottl Show.
Years in the bonus with Doug Gottli, What a.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Doug Gottlie Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Mokeman.
So by now you guys are starting to figure out
that this nil stuff is crazy. Maybe you always thought
it was crazy, And I'll only tell you my perspective
on it, having actually living in this space with players
(00:37):
in the portal, and there's a bunch of different ways
in which guys try and shake you down for money.
Right the offer that everybody says they got, you know,
k coach, I got an offer.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
For five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
My answer to any of these players that we're recruiting
that says they have enough off for five hundred thousand
dollars is hey, man, good luck. But with all the
shady accounting, with all the different craziness, there are plenty
of kids that are truly respectful. You get to a number,
you agree to it, you're good to go. You're good
(01:13):
to go. For me, I think it's super important to
just be an honest salesman. Our way of positioning ourselves
is one were not going to be the highest bidder,
very very unlikely we will bid the.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Highest on anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But everything we tell you you're going to get, you're
going to get. And then number one thing you're going
to get is opportunity, and you're gonna be well coached,
and you're going to get attention because you play for me,
and even if I didn't want it, we'll get tons
of attention.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And we're gonna win next year.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So we'll have the biggest turnaround in college basketball next season.
That's not hard to forecast, knowing will be a lot better,
more cohesive, have better level of talent, have our guys
that return will be a year older and a year
more experience playing for me.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But man, so some people do it where they throw
out a number early.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And then they see if you bite, then they kind
of reel you in, and when it comes down to
comes down to it, you know they'll come back to
their number. Sometimes you'll have guys that are really interested
early and then they get more attention from other people
promising bigger numbers, and then they disappear, and then two
(02:31):
weeks later they circle back, Hey coach, why aren't you
still recruiting me? Which means they didn't get what they
initially thought they were going to get, and now they're
coming back and some do the I'm interested, I'm interested,
I'm interested. You agree to terms of a deal, and
then by the before you can get to send them
the memo of understanding, now a sudden hold on coach.
(02:52):
This other school offered me more money. So I understand
that there's a need for regulation, and there's a need
for set dollar amounts. There's a need for all these things.
And ultimately, you know, I get that there's some sense that, well,
the NCAA is a road of the ship.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's bullshit, bullshit. The issue is.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
That unless they get antitrust legislation on the books for
college sports, that almost any rule they put feel like
they put in place, a judge will will have a
temporary stay of it. And a lot of times it's
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not on as much of a legal basis as it is.
These judges just want their own schools to be competitive
and they don't give a shit. So you get people going, well,
the nc has to have better leadership, Like it doesn't
matter who the leader is. If you agree to things,
and all these schools agree to rules and then immediately
the rules get knocked down because a judge wants to
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wants to nullify them. There's nothing you can do. So ultimately,
the way to get there is with antitrust legislation, which
they'll get to, and they'll probably collectively bargain without them
being employees, which I think they'll get to, and they'll
get to some sort of limits and structure.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But they don't have it now. So now it's the
wild will West.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 3 (04:31):
Let's get what the Fox says and now.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Say every day at this time in the Bonus podcast.
Here in the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, we
get to something previously said in a Fox Sports Radio
or a Fox Sports One show. Here's Colin Cowhert and
Jordan Schultz said this exchange about Caitlin Clark being left
off Time Magazine's list of most influential people in sports.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Time Magazine's list of the one hundred most influential people
in America. They did not have Caitlin Clark on the list,
but they had two other WNBA players, So I just
want you to think of words matter. Influential is the
word Time Magazine used. She played one year of pro
basketball in a small market for the worst team in
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the league, and she literally changed the entire financial makeup
of the league. That defines influential. The WNBA had its
most watched season in twenty four years and set records
for digital consumption and merchandise sales last year. That is
all Caitlin Clark Well, Colin, I heard this. They gave
her Athlete of the Year in America in December, and
(05:36):
so there was no reason to put her on the
April list. All right, So she went from the Athlete
of the Year in America in December and by April
she's less influential than Breonna Stewart. Yeah, yeah, I'm not
going to buy that argument. There have been a lot
of great individual female athletes globally, but in terms of
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North America and team sports, men have dominated. And because
men have dominated this for so long, they get it.
UFC just put John Jones and Connor McGregor on every
big card, play the hits. But the WNBA last year,
bless their hearts, finally got a star and they didn't
know that. They couldn't figure it out. So Caitlin Clark
(06:19):
changed the financial structure of the league and now she's
not influential.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I guess my question with this is what's behind it?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
What's behind it?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
How could you be so fucking stupid if your Time magazine?
Is it so that you get attention? Like is the
idea to get attention called to it?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Right? That's the only thing I can think.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Of is is can we get is are you getting
attention called to it?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Is that the point there? Because otherwise I just don't.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Understand, simply do not understand at all why you do that?
Like what is the Caitlin Kark pushback, what is the deal?
I mean, I have a I have a guess, but
I don't want to make the guests without hearing somebody
like Sam, can you.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Figure out what the deal is?
Speaker 7 (07:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I go the only thing I can the reason is
what that That's sort of that straw Man character Colin Dad,
where he's like, well she was, you know twenty twenty four,
she was on the list at the end of the year.
She used the Athlete of the Year twenty twenty for
New Year now, but it's like her residual now influence
is still there.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Let me let me, let me just help help callin out. Okay,
the Indiana Fever are sold out. Let me repeat myself,
The Indiana Fever are sold out for the upcoming season.
Anyone who says otherwise is they're not stupid anymore. They're
doing it for a reason. And the only thing I
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can possibly think of is again, like, it's to like
satisfy this old guard of chicks that nobody give the
fuck about.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Brianna Stewart is a great player.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Did you see how she got on her hands and
knees and fucking begged forgiveness when she had Caitlin Clark
on there because she realized she sounds like a fucking idiot.
So does Time magazine. You sound like fucking idiots. You're
embarrassing yourselves. Nobody picks up a magazine and then the
one time somebody pays attention to a list, you do
so in a fashion which like, why would I pay
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attention to the rest of the list when that's what
the list looks like?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right? Fucking embarrassing? Embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Jonas Stocks and Brady Quinn had this exchange about the
Tennessee quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
This according to Colin Cowherd, who sent this tweet out yesterday,
that the family is still saying this is not about money.
It had nothing to do with money. It was all
about the Tennessee volunteers offense. And so he finds himself
reportedly in Westwood. He will be a UCLA bruin. But
again it's got nothing to do with money at all whatsoever,
(09:11):
And definitely not the four million dollars that was reported
they were asking for when he was making two million
a change already with Tennessee set for this upcoming year.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
So he's going to play for free, is that what
you're saying. Yeah, it's going to go there and be
closer to home and all that. It's not money here,
so everybody knows he ain't playing for free, but he
is playing for less money and the taxes are higher.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Here's that.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Yeah, it was a losing proposition all the way around.
Not only would he made more money to your point
too at the taxes, but now he's in a different system,
not on a team that's as talented. I mean, if
you look at Tennessee last year, which qualified for the
College Football Playoff and by the way, mind you, and
this is not to be a slight on Niko Iamaliava,
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but there's been a string of quarterbacks who have got drafted,
who've been put up big numbers there.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He did not play that well.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
That was a defensive led team, that was a team
that could tote the rock too. I would say, if
you're looking at one of the weaker parts of their team,
that was the inconsistency in the passing game.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just again, we all love Colin uh, but this
is one of those you're literally repeating something that somebody
texted you or told you. It's complete bullshit. It's about
the offense. If it was about the offense, why did
you recommit to coming back for Tennessee? Right, why did
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you recommit to coming back to Tennessee if it was
about the offense? Because it's not so dumb, like what
are we doing? You know, what are we exactly doing?
It's completely about the money. Here's what happens. It's happened
(10:59):
with me with recruiting kids. You have a deal, they
agree to the deal, you send them the paperwork, and
they're like, hey, coach, this other school offered me twice
the money, Like Okay, well, what was the point of
saying you had a deal? And then, as happens, here
the supposed other school that was offering you a bunch
of more money, they disappear. Here's Chris Brussard. You said
(11:23):
this about the Warriors as they get ready to take
on the Houston Rockets in the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
More or less confident in Golden State after this win.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
I'm gonna be honest, I still have them beating the Rockets.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
So you're not working but a little.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Less a smidge a scoot appreciate. I gotta keep it real.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They are a roller coaster.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
They really are within the game, within the game. I mean, first,
when you beat the Lakers, you beat the Nuggets, you
beat the Grizzlies three straight times within the last month,
and then you lose a needed win against San Antonio
at home.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They are low. It's very low. They are high. Is
very high.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
So who are we gonna get? That's kind of a
mystery with the Warriors. The biggest problem though, they really
they're too small.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yes, they're too small.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Zach Edy, he looked like an All Star last night.
I got him in six over the Rocket. But I'm
a tad bit, I hit a hair less.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, the hole. They look small. They've they've been small,
they've played small. Granted they don't have they haven't had
Andrew Boget for years. But you know, let's let's let's
not act like Zach Edie. It's one of those things
where you're gonna play small, you gotta be able to
withstand it.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Edie was four of eleven from the floor, six of
eight from the free thro line. He was actually a
plus six. There were six points better with him on
the floor, fourteen points, seventeen rebounds, seventeen rebounds, but they
did not win the game. What you're what you're betting on,
is your betting on that your team will be better offensively,
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you know, and more efficient offensively than the other team
will when they go Small's that's the reality to it.
So I don't think, you know, how big they are
has anything to do with it. I think they do
have some limitations, but I don't think it has to
do necessarily with how big they are defensively, and like
that's all part of playing small, part of playing small,
(13:28):
as you know you're going to give up rebounds. And
Steven Adams is bigger than. I mean, Zach Eaty is
bigger than like he blocks out the sun. But the
Golden State won the game. They took seventeen more threes.
They also took eleven more free throws, and they had
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to make up for the fact that they gave up
three more offensive rebounds. So when you you want to
look at it versus whether big it work, this.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Is what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
When if you are going to play small and going
to get out rebounded, you have to outshoot the team
substantially from three from the free throw line, and you
have to get a higher volume of shots. In this
particular case, they only took one less shot than Memphis,
which is a win, a total win, but you can't
lose in other categories. They won the turnovers, they won
(14:25):
in free throw attempts and free throw makes. They won
three point makes, and they end up being the more
efficient team. That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
Let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And Now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Okay, So Doug, as a guy who has to comb
through a lot of sports content, that's what I do.
Spend a lot of my mornings combing through sports content.
It's a really like weird week for the name Nico.
The Nico in Dallas is about to get publicly stoned.
(15:21):
And then there's a Nico and that used to be
at Tennessee and I think he's heading to UCLA. According
to Colin Cowhert, the problem is this, I don't think
the name Nico has ever been mentioned in a four
day span in the history of man more than this week.
(15:42):
That's what annoys me. It's not John, it's not David,
it's not Doug. It's Nico.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Why don't you like Nico?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Because I've seen it in headlines of everything I combed
through this week for sports and I have to recalibrate
and remember what Nico they're referring to. It makes my
job tougher. You know Nico. How many Nicos do you
know in your in your personal life?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
M Nico Medbed's new coach of Minnesota. I know him.
He's a really good guy. I mean, isn't that just Nick?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Yeah? I don't know anyways, it's annoyed me. Gail King
is a CBS anchor and she was one of the
women that went up in the Jeff Bezos Penis shaped machine,
and she said, do not call that a ride. She's
sick of people calling it a ride.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
I don't like that people are calling it a ride.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
A ride. You know, you never see a man, a
male astronaut who's going up in space and they said, oh,
we took a ride. We actually duplicated the route that
Alan Shepherd did. That's why it's called this particular capsule
is called the New Shepherd. We duplicated that.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Route, that route.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
No one said he took that ride. It's always referred
to as a flight or a journey. So I feel
that that's a little disrespectful to what the vision was.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh god, Gail King, let me just help you shut
the fuck up. It's called a ride because you didn't
do shit. You're not a fucking astronaut. He didn't fly
a fucking plane. You're on a fucking ride. Stop comparing
yourself to people who actually did shit.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I duplicated. I duplicated the path that pioneers did. When
I drove once from Missouri to California, and it was
a ride because I was in the car. It wasn't
the dysentery. It wasn't an adventure, it wasn't a voyage.
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It was a ride because somebody paid for the car
that I was in that wasn't me, and somebody was
other than me. Jo King, Travis Hunter, Shoho Tawny comparisons.
I thought we had kind of put an end to
that when Travis Hunter said that he what he does
is harder, and I am paraphrasing you, so you could change,
(18:16):
you could correct me, but at the time you were like, nah,
Travis Hunter is a young guy. He obviously hasn't really
played baseball, and he's not very bright. He obviously has
no idea the hand eye coordination it takes to hit
a baseball, or the toke, torque and accuracy it takes
to pitch a baseball. Let's not make a big deal
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out of this. Well, Andrew Berry Cleveland Brown's GM, the
guy that gave Deshaun Watson all that money and traded
away all those draft picks. He said this about Travis
Hunter yesterday.
Speaker 11 (18:48):
It's a little bit like Otani right where, you know
when he's playing one side, he's he's an outstanding players.
If he's a pitcher, he's a hitter, he's an outstanding player.
You obviously get a unicorn if he's in both ways.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Okay, so unicorn unicorn, and he's just like Shoe Haytani.
The two have nothing. Nothing is similar about each of
them except for the term both ways. You know he
can do two things. That's where the comparison ends. But
I do want to say this, This kind of shows you,
I think a difference in the organizations, right, Andrew Berry.
(19:21):
The Browns have been a dumpster fire for many years.
Remember John Harbaugh said that this this week about Travis Hunter.
Speaker 12 (19:29):
It's gonna be interesting to see how they do it
wherever he goes. But to say that you're going to
be completely immersed in everything that there is a known
offense and everything there is a known defense. I don't
know if there's enough hours in the day for a
player to be able to do that and to have
every detailed lockdown, but you certainly can do it. I
would think on one side of the ball and then
have some sort of a package on the other side
(19:50):
of the ball, Which is my guess, is how the
team will do it wherever he goes.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
So there it is. There's a difference. The Cleveland Browns
are willing to placate the player and have him play
both ways, and they're the Browns. The Ravens, a winning franchise,
has a head coach saying it's impossible to be excellent
at both, so just do one. That sounds like a
winning message, So of my choices stop the Travis Hunter
(20:16):
Shojo Tani comparison, Gail King being on a ride and
too many nicos on the news this week.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Ooh ooh, that's hard. That is really hard. I'm gonna say,
Gaillo King, yayo King. I think yo King is actually
an easy one, but it's hard only that. Yeah, I
mean the Browns are going to be the Browns, right,
(20:46):
so yeah, Yo King, Yo King.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You're a nice Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
All right, there's two purposes. I mean, we're trying to
offer the best sports content we can on this podcast
every day. It serves two purposes. It has a great
Hall of Fame white player saying he wished he was black,
and it has cusswords Lebron James and Steve Nash on
the mind that game podcast.
Speaker 13 (21:19):
Started playing basketball, fell in love with it, like the
first air Jordan Wan spike Lee commercial coming out right
in the eighth grade, right when I started playing our
seventh grade summer, going into eighth grade, and was like,
this world's amazing. And then I mean, that's also just
be real, Like I wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
To be blacks.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
All the best.
Speaker 13 (21:39):
Players in the world were black, best rapper, you know, listen,
So I'm trying to emulate anyone who had something about him.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's so funny you say that because we say the
same shit about ar There's no way, there's no way
you learned that in fucking Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Markis moore Is we call.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Him smooth on the team.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
He's like, no, fuck that. I'm not believing you for Mark.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
So you got to be from New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
What all you got that?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like, you didn't learn that Shue in Arcantas.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
But that's the thing. I'm sure he like me, was like,
I want to do more with the ball. I want
to be able to beat better players off the dribball.
I want to you know, you want to emulate the greats.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's amazing. That's actually amazing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Sound amazing sound, and it's Yeah, that's most guys I
know who play basketball between fourteen and sixteen years old.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Some grow out of it, some do not. Why do
we play play for you because we can't. That's it
for the end.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
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All right, you know this is the Doug gottl Show.
Years in the bonus with Doug Gottli, What a.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Doug Gottlie Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Mokeman.
So by now you guys are starting to figure out
that this nil stuff is crazy. Maybe you always thought
it was crazy, And I'll only tell you my perspective
on it, having actually living in this space with players
(00:37):
in the portal, and there's a bunch of different ways
in which guys try and shake you down for money.
Right the offer that everybody says they got, you know,
k coach, I got an offer.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
For five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
My answer to any of these players that we're recruiting
that says they have enough off for five hundred thousand
dollars is hey, man, good luck. But with all the
shady accounting, with all the different craziness, there are plenty
of kids that are truly respectful. You get to a number,
you agree to it, you're good to go. You're good
(01:13):
to go. For me, I think it's super important to
just be an honest salesman. Our way of positioning ourselves
is one were not going to be the highest bidder,
very very unlikely we will bid the.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Highest on anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But everything we tell you you're going to get, you're
going to get. And then number one thing you're going
to get is opportunity, and you're gonna be well coached,
and you're going to get attention because you play for me,
and even if I didn't want it, we'll get tons
of attention.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And we're gonna win next year.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So we'll have the biggest turnaround in college basketball next season.
That's not hard to forecast, knowing will be a lot better,
more cohesive, have better level of talent, have our guys
that return will be a year older and a year
more experience playing for me.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But man, so some people do it where they throw
out a number early.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And then they see if you bite, then they kind
of reel you in, and when it comes down to
comes down to it, you know they'll come back to
their number. Sometimes you'll have guys that are really interested
early and then they get more attention from other people
promising bigger numbers, and then they disappear, and then two
(02:31):
weeks later they circle back, Hey coach, why aren't you
still recruiting me? Which means they didn't get what they
initially thought they were going to get, and now they're
coming back and some do the I'm interested, I'm interested,
I'm interested. You agree to terms of a deal, and
then by the before you can get to send them
the memo of understanding, now a sudden hold on coach.
(02:52):
This other school offered me more money. So I understand
that there's a need for regulation, and there's a need
for set dollar amounts. There's a need for all these things.
And ultimately, you know, I get that there's some sense that, well,
the NCAA is a road of the ship.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's bullshit, bullshit. The issue is.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
That unless they get antitrust legislation on the books for
college sports, that almost any rule they put feel like
they put in place, a judge will will have a
temporary stay of it. And a lot of times it's
(03:36):
not on as much of a legal basis as it is.
These judges just want their own schools to be competitive
and they don't give a shit. So you get people going, well,
the nc has to have better leadership, Like it doesn't
matter who the leader is. If you agree to things,
and all these schools agree to rules and then immediately
the rules get knocked down because a judge wants to
(04:03):
wants to nullify them. There's nothing you can do. So ultimately,
the way to get there is with antitrust legislation, which
they'll get to, and they'll probably collectively bargain without them
being employees, which I think they'll get to, and they'll
get to some sort of limits and structure.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But they don't have it now. So now it's the
wild will West.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Let's get what the Fox says and now.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Say every day at this time in the Bonus podcast.
Here in the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, we
get to something previously said in a Fox Sports Radio
or a Fox Sports One show. Here's Colin Cowhert and
Jordan Schultz said this exchange about Caitlin Clark being left
off Time Magazine's list of most influential people in sports.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Time Magazine's list of the one hundred most influential people
in America. They did not have Caitlin Clark on the list,
but they had two other WNBA players, So I just
want you to think of words matter. Influential is the
word Time Magazine used. She played one year of pro
basketball in a small market for the worst team in
(05:15):
the league, and she literally changed the entire financial makeup
of the league. That defines influential. The WNBA had its
most watched season in twenty four years and set records
for digital consumption and merchandise sales last year. That is
all Caitlin Clark Well, Colin, I heard this. They gave
her Athlete of the Year in America in December, and
(05:36):
so there was no reason to put her on the
April list. All right, So she went from the Athlete
of the Year in America in December and by April
she's less influential than Breonna Stewart. Yeah, yeah, I'm not
going to buy that argument. There have been a lot
of great individual female athletes globally, but in terms of
(05:59):
North America and team sports, men have dominated. And because
men have dominated this for so long, they get it.
UFC just put John Jones and Connor McGregor on every
big card, play the hits. But the WNBA last year,
bless their hearts, finally got a star and they didn't
know that. They couldn't figure it out. So Caitlin Clark
(06:19):
changed the financial structure of the league and now she's
not influential.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I guess my question with this is what's behind it?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
What's behind it?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
How could you be so fucking stupid if your Time magazine?
Is it so that you get attention? Like is the
idea to get attention called to it?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Right? That's the only thing I can think.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Of is is can we get is are you getting
attention called to it?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Is that the point there? Because otherwise I just don't.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Understand, simply do not understand at all why you do that?
Like what is the Caitlin Kark pushback, what is the deal?
I mean, I have a I have a guess, but
I don't want to make the guests without hearing somebody
like Sam, can you.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Figure out what the deal is?
Speaker 7 (07:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I go the only thing I can the reason is
what that That's sort of that straw Man character Colin Dad,
where he's like, well she was, you know twenty twenty four,
she was on the list at the end of the year.
She used the Athlete of the Year twenty twenty for
New Year now, but it's like her residual now influence
is still there.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Let me let me, let me just help help callin out. Okay,
the Indiana Fever are sold out. Let me repeat myself,
The Indiana Fever are sold out for the upcoming season.
Anyone who says otherwise is they're not stupid anymore. They're
doing it for a reason. And the only thing I
(08:02):
can possibly think of is again, like, it's to like
satisfy this old guard of chicks that nobody give the
fuck about.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Brianna Stewart is a great player.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Did you see how she got on her hands and
knees and fucking begged forgiveness when she had Caitlin Clark
on there because she realized she sounds like a fucking idiot.
So does Time magazine. You sound like fucking idiots. You're
embarrassing yourselves. Nobody picks up a magazine and then the
one time somebody pays attention to a list, you do
so in a fashion which like, why would I pay
(08:34):
attention to the rest of the list when that's what
the list looks like?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right? Fucking embarrassing? Embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Jonas Stocks and Brady Quinn had this exchange about the
Tennessee quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
This according to Colin Cowherd, who sent this tweet out yesterday,
that the family is still saying this is not about money.
It had nothing to do with money. It was all
about the Tennessee volunteers offense. And so he finds himself
reportedly in Westwood. He will be a UCLA bruin. But
again it's got nothing to do with money at all whatsoever,
(09:11):
And definitely not the four million dollars that was reported
they were asking for when he was making two million
a change already with Tennessee set for this upcoming year.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
So he's going to play for free, is that what
you're saying. Yeah, it's going to go there and be
closer to home and all that. It's not money here,
so everybody knows he ain't playing for free, but he
is playing for less money and the taxes are higher.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Here's that.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Yeah, it was a losing proposition all the way around.
Not only would he made more money to your point
too at the taxes, but now he's in a different system,
not on a team that's as talented. I mean, if
you look at Tennessee last year, which qualified for the
College Football Playoff and by the way, mind you, and
this is not to be a slight on Niko Iamaliava,
(09:55):
but there's been a string of quarterbacks who have got drafted,
who've been put up big numbers there.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He did not play that well.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
That was a defensive led team, that was a team
that could tote the rock too. I would say, if
you're looking at one of the weaker parts of their team,
that was the inconsistency in the passing game.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just again, we all love Colin uh, but this
is one of those you're literally repeating something that somebody
texted you or told you. It's complete bullshit. It's about
the offense. If it was about the offense, why did
you recommit to coming back for Tennessee? Right, why did
(10:37):
you recommit to coming back to Tennessee if it was
about the offense? Because it's not so dumb, like what
are we doing? You know, what are we exactly doing?
It's completely about the money. Here's what happens. It's happened
(10:59):
with me with recruiting kids. You have a deal, they
agree to the deal, you send them the paperwork, and
they're like, hey, coach, this other school offered me twice
the money, Like Okay, well, what was the point of
saying you had a deal? And then, as happens, here
the supposed other school that was offering you a bunch
of more money, they disappear. Here's Chris Brussard. You said
(11:23):
this about the Warriors as they get ready to take
on the Houston Rockets in the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
More or less confident in Golden State after this win.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
I'm gonna be honest, I still have them beating the Rockets.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
So you're not working but a little.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Less a smidge a scoot appreciate. I gotta keep it real.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They are a roller coaster.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
They really are within the game, within the game. I mean, first,
when you beat the Lakers, you beat the Nuggets, you
beat the Grizzlies three straight times within the last month,
and then you lose a needed win against San Antonio
at home.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They are low. It's very low. They are high. Is
very high.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
So who are we gonna get? That's kind of a
mystery with the Warriors. The biggest problem though, they really
they're too small.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yes, they're too small.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Zach Edy, he looked like an All Star last night.
I got him in six over the Rocket. But I'm
a tad bit, I hit a hair less.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, the hole. They look small. They've they've been small,
they've played small. Granted they don't have they haven't had
Andrew Boget for years. But you know, let's let's let's
not act like Zach Edie. It's one of those things
where you're gonna play small, you gotta be able to
withstand it.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Edie was four of eleven from the floor, six of
eight from the free thro line. He was actually a
plus six. There were six points better with him on
the floor, fourteen points, seventeen rebounds, seventeen rebounds, but they
did not win the game. What you're what you're betting on,
is your betting on that your team will be better offensively,
(13:05):
you know, and more efficient offensively than the other team
will when they go Small's that's the reality to it.
So I don't think, you know, how big they are
has anything to do with it. I think they do
have some limitations, but I don't think it has to
do necessarily with how big they are defensively, and like
that's all part of playing small, part of playing small,
(13:28):
as you know you're going to give up rebounds. And
Steven Adams is bigger than. I mean, Zach Eaty is
bigger than like he blocks out the sun. But the
Golden State won the game. They took seventeen more threes.
They also took eleven more free throws, and they had
(13:50):
to make up for the fact that they gave up
three more offensive rebounds. So when you you want to
look at it versus whether big it work, this.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Is what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
When if you are going to play small and going
to get out rebounded, you have to outshoot the team
substantially from three from the free throw line, and you
have to get a higher volume of shots. In this
particular case, they only took one less shot than Memphis,
which is a win, a total win, but you can't
lose in other categories. They won the turnovers, they won
(14:25):
in free throw attempts and free throw makes. They won
three point makes, and they end up being the more
efficient team. That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
Let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And Now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Okay, So Doug, as a guy who has to comb
through a lot of sports content, that's what I do.
Spend a lot of my mornings combing through sports content.
It's a really like weird week for the name Nico.
The Nico in Dallas is about to get publicly stoned.
(15:21):
And then there's a Nico and that used to be
at Tennessee and I think he's heading to UCLA. According
to Colin Cowhert, the problem is this, I don't think
the name Nico has ever been mentioned in a four
day span in the history of man more than this week.
(15:42):
That's what annoys me. It's not John, it's not David,
it's not Doug. It's Nico.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Why don't you like Nico?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Because I've seen it in headlines of everything I combed
through this week for sports and I have to recalibrate
and remember what Nico they're referring to. It makes my
job tougher. You know Nico. How many Nicos do you
know in your in your personal life?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
M Nico Medbed's new coach of Minnesota. I know him.
He's a really good guy. I mean, isn't that just Nick?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Yeah? I don't know anyways, it's annoyed me. Gail King
is a CBS anchor and she was one of the
women that went up in the Jeff Bezos Penis shaped machine,
and she said, do not call that a ride. She's
sick of people calling it a ride.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
I don't like that people are calling it a ride.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
A ride. You know, you never see a man, a
male astronaut who's going up in space and they said, oh,
we took a ride. We actually duplicated the route that
Alan Shepherd did. That's why it's called this particular capsule
is called the New Shepherd. We duplicated that.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Route, that route.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
No one said he took that ride. It's always referred
to as a flight or a journey. So I feel
that that's a little disrespectful to what the vision was.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh god, Gail King, let me just help you shut
the fuck up. It's called a ride because you didn't
do shit. You're not a fucking astronaut. He didn't fly
a fucking plane. You're on a fucking ride. Stop comparing
yourself to people who actually did shit.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I duplicated. I duplicated the path that pioneers did. When
I drove once from Missouri to California, and it was
a ride because I was in the car. It wasn't
the dysentery. It wasn't an adventure, it wasn't a voyage.
(17:53):
It was a ride because somebody paid for the car
that I was in that wasn't me, and somebody was
other than me. Jo King, Travis Hunter, Shoho Tawny comparisons.
I thought we had kind of put an end to
that when Travis Hunter said that he what he does
is harder, and I am paraphrasing you, so you could change,
(18:16):
you could correct me, but at the time you were like, nah,
Travis Hunter is a young guy. He obviously hasn't really
played baseball, and he's not very bright. He obviously has
no idea the hand eye coordination it takes to hit
a baseball, or the toke, torque and accuracy it takes
to pitch a baseball. Let's not make a big deal
(18:37):
out of this. Well, Andrew Berry Cleveland Brown's GM, the
guy that gave Deshaun Watson all that money and traded
away all those draft picks. He said this about Travis
Hunter yesterday.
Speaker 11 (18:48):
It's a little bit like Otani right where, you know
when he's playing one side, he's he's an outstanding players.
If he's a pitcher, he's a hitter, he's an outstanding player.
You obviously get a unicorn if he's in both ways.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Okay, so unicorn unicorn, and he's just like Shoe Haytani.
The two have nothing. Nothing is similar about each of
them except for the term both ways. You know he
can do two things. That's where the comparison ends. But
I do want to say this, This kind of shows you,
I think a difference in the organizations, right, Andrew Berry.
(19:21):
The Browns have been a dumpster fire for many years.
Remember John Harbaugh said that this this week about Travis Hunter.
Speaker 12 (19:29):
It's gonna be interesting to see how they do it
wherever he goes. But to say that you're going to
be completely immersed in everything that there is a known
offense and everything there is a known defense. I don't
know if there's enough hours in the day for a
player to be able to do that and to have
every detailed lockdown, but you certainly can do it. I
would think on one side of the ball and then
have some sort of a package on the other side
(19:50):
of the ball, Which is my guess, is how the
team will do it wherever he goes.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
So there it is. There's a difference. The Cleveland Browns
are willing to placate the player and have him play
both ways, and they're the Browns. The Ravens, a winning franchise,
has a head coach saying it's impossible to be excellent
at both, so just do one. That sounds like a
winning message, So of my choices stop the Travis Hunter
(20:16):
Shojo Tani comparison, Gail King being on a ride and
too many nicos on the news this week.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Ooh ooh, that's hard. That is really hard. I'm gonna say,
Gaillo King, yayo King. I think yo King is actually
an easy one, but it's hard only that. Yeah, I
mean the Browns are going to be the Browns, right,
(20:46):
so yeah, Yo King, Yo King.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You're a nice Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
All right, there's two purposes. I mean, we're trying to
offer the best sports content we can on this podcast
every day. It serves two purposes. It has a great
Hall of Fame white player saying he wished he was black,
and it has cusswords Lebron James and Steve Nash on
the mind that game podcast.
Speaker 13 (21:19):
Started playing basketball, fell in love with it, like the
first air Jordan Wan spike Lee commercial coming out right
in the eighth grade, right when I started playing our
seventh grade summer, going into eighth grade, and was like,
this world's amazing. And then I mean, that's also just
be real, Like I wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
To be blacks.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
All the best.
Speaker 13 (21:39):
Players in the world were black, best rapper, you know, listen,
So I'm trying to emulate anyone who had something about him.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's so funny you say that because we say the
same shit about ar There's no way, there's no way
you learned that in fucking Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Markis moore Is we call.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Him smooth on the team.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
He's like, no, fuck that. I'm not believing you for Mark.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
So you got to be from New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
What all you got that?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like, you didn't learn that Shue in Arcantas.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
But that's the thing. I'm sure he like me, was like,
I want to do more with the ball. I want
to be able to beat better players off the dribball.
I want to you know, you want to emulate the greats.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's amazing. That's actually amazing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Sound amazing sound, and it's Yeah, that's most guys I
know who play basketball between fourteen and sixteen years old.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Some grow out of it, some do not. Why do
we play play for you because we can't. That's it
for the end.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
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