May 1, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan and the crew feature the year 1998 in this week's version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday". Doug talks about the Warriors and Steve Kerr's comments about a dumb rule in the NBA. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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We just got sports with you on a daily basis. Wow.
You know, there's a couple of things that I've determined
we're gonna get to. Don't call it throw back Thursday
in a second, but I do think we can all agree.
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There's a couple debates in life which are never going
to be one, right, just never going to be one. Uh.
And I thought of one yesterday which Jay Stu got to,
which is who actually won World War Two? Right? Jasetu's like, hey,
Russia actually won World War Two? That can be a
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debate last as old as time. The abortion debate, No,
there's no winner, no loser to it. And who's the
greatest basketball player of all time? Matter of fact, my nephew,
Gauge shout out to my boy, Gauge. He's going to
GCU next year, but I have you Gauge. He's like, yeah,
your brother's see now because he doesn't think Lebron's the
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second best player of all time. I'm like, well, you know,
we grew up watching Magic and Bird, and so we
thought Magic and Bird might be the best player of
all time right until Jordan was the best player. So
the point is that these are debates that I'm watching
last night and then watching on social media all day.
When people compare Lebron in the postseason and like, well
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Kobe never did this and Jordan never did that, I'm like, well, yeah,
but they didn't play when they're forty years old. I
just I've determined these are debate that will never be
one in your own mind. You're like, this is an
easy debate to settle. Again, that's in your own mind.
We do this every Thursday. I think this is really
a Jase too special, but we've all grown to truly
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enjoy it. Some people say, don't call it a throwback Thursday.
We say, don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So this is a part of the show where we
look back. We start with the year in sports and
then we veer off into other things. Jase do what's
the year that we're going?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. Did you
guys know that in nineteen ninety eight? This week in
nineteen ninety eight?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I want the listeners to all go back to
nineteen ninety eight. What were you doing, what were you
listening to, what were you watching? And what more importantly,
what sports were you following? What do you remember most
from that year? I bet you forgot this part. This
week in nineteen ninety eight, a rookie by the name
of Carrie Wood struck out twenty batters in a game.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I remember that carry Wood.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Was going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He was. He was Sandy Kofax, Satchel Page, and Walter
Johnson in the same pitcher, and I think he pitched
for three more seasons before Dusty Baker threw out his arm.
You know what happened this week too. In nineteen ninety eight, guys,
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some guy by the name of Tim Duncan won the
Rookie of the Year award in the NBA. You might
know his name. Never heard Dan Byer. We remember most
from that year in sports.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, you know, nineteen ninety eight, interesting year you mentioned
Carrie Wood. He did last a little bit more than
three years. He ended up pitching that Game seven that
the Cubs lost in the Marlins in two thousand and three,
homeward in that game despite the losing effort.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Wow, that's a good poll.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And Carrie would also in that twenty strikeout game against
the Astros Friday afternoon at Wrigley Field. I don't know
if Shane Reynolds was the opposing starter or not, but
it was quite a day for Carrie Wood. Not only
did Tim Duncan win the NBA Rookie of the Year,
it was the final year of the Bulls championship run
nineteen ninety eight. It was the rematch of the Bulls
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Jazz from the year prior. And I guess we could
all just say it was the last dance of the
Chicago Bulls. And that's where where did you get that phrase?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Last year?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Well, I'll tell you what, Jason. I was driving in
today and I was thinking about it, and I was
thinking about those six championships. When you recommended nineteen ninety eight,
and I'm like, you know what, that's kind of like
their last dance, you know, like when the DJ is like, hey,
last dance, everybody on the dance floor. So I thought
that that would be appropriate for that situation. But nineteen
ninety eight, the thing that stands out most in sports
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to me is the Bulls Final Championship against the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What do you remember most about about that? About that series,
I think everybody remembers the shot. My thing is it
had all the things Jordan and all the things Carl
Malone leading up to it. Remember Carmeloon, He well, a
first he had two free throws, then he had the layup,
then he had to steal, then he had the jump shot.
It was like Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, And the
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defense was part of the story. And then the other
part of the story was Carmelone had won the MVP
and had the ball with a chance to win the
game and got swiped by Jordan who came home from
the weak side. And then also a point of it
was the Jazz actually had time and got a pretty
good look and Stockton missed a top of the key three,
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the same shot that he had hit against Houston. Was
it that year or the year before to put them
in the NBA Finals Anyway, I digress.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
On a personal level, I was kind of fired up
for that moment because Brian Russell is now what he's
in lives in infamy as the guy that gave up
that game winning shot, and I think he's one of
the very few players that has ever played in the
NBA Finals that played at the Titan Gym. I could
think of Bruce Bowen and I can think of Brian Russell,
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maybe a couple of U NLV players.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah. Also, I mean you see Santa Barbara had had
a couple as well. You Seyervine had a lot of
NBA players, same Jim. Ninety eight, by the way, was
the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Do you guys remember that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The track at I forget Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Uh did not have sex with that woman?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
You remember Monica Lewinsky from nineteen ninety eight. I remember
Mark o'meira what a year was for Omeira in golf,
winning fifty percent of the majors that year, winning the
Masters in dramatic fashion, and then a few months later
at the Open Championship at Royal Birkdale, ending up winning
that his second major of his career. Justin Rose came
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on the scene that week as well, making his splash
with a birdie hole out on eighteen. It was prior
to him turning pro. He was the low amateur at
that Open championship. But it was also sandwiched in between
heartbreak two one Mira victories in between. If we remember
when the US Open it was held at the Olympic Club,
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Payne Stewart was oh so close to claiming his second
US Open title controversial pin placement on eighteen I believe,
on the Friday of that championship where a short putt
by Pain was missed and then continued to roll out.
Many players had problems with it, but in the end
Pain could not bring home the championship and it was
Lee Jansen who won his second US Open. However, Payne
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used that heartbreak to fuel him the next year to
go on and win at Pinehurst and Pinehurst number two.
But heartbreak for Paine Stewart at the US Open when
we talk about golf, but it was to Lee Jansen's
benefit who claimed his second US Open title.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
In the NFL, how many quarterbacks do you think through
for four thousand yards? Ninety eight?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Mmm, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Six, Jase Stu.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Under because you're asking the question one.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
One.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Playing in the game, I knew to guess Hi, It's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I would have guessed wrong here. Brett Favre was the
only one.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I purposely guessed wrong to prove your point of Like, yeah,
if I guessed zero, you would have been like, well
there was one, and that totally would have been let down.
But I played the game. That's all I asked my
wife to do. I go just play how much this cost?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And then just play the game. Yeah, just no, just
play along. That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, here's what's crazy about it. Okay, Brett Favre through
for four thousand yards. He had thirty one touchdowns, four
thousand That sounds about right, right. He had twenty three interceptions.
All right. I mean it's just so different than it
is now. You know, Troy Aikman was that was his
year was cut short. Twelve touchdown, eleven games, five interceptions,
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And I think that was the year in which John
Elway they won.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
The Super Bowl, right, Well, they had just beaten Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Brett fav in the Super Bowl right in January or February.
Then they were trying to complete their repeat.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And they did.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Now, the Vikings really dominated that season. That was the
That was the year of Randall, Conney Ham and Randy Moss.
They were lighting up the world, right and then Gary
Anderson missed a kick in the NFC title games.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Even even that with Randy Moss. Okay, with Chris Carter,
what was the other guy? Did they have, Jake What
was the other j Jake Greed? Yeah, Jake Greed. And
what's I got? Robert Smith was their running back? Okay,
so remember snapshot of today, snapshot of then. Randall didn't
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play in the sixteenth game of the year. They rested him.
He threw for thirty seven hundred yards, thirty four or touchdowns,
tenor receptions. A very good year by anybody's standards, but
again compared sort of pedestrian numbers compared to what people
put up today.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And yeah, especially when you think of that offense, to
think that, you know, Culpepper didn't there, Cunningham didn't throw
four four years.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, it's crazy, you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I remember watching a sixty minutes piece on Randall Conninham
and at some point the interviewer was like, what music
are you listening to right now? What gets you motivated
before the games? And I loved the song that he presented.
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Oh what a song, what a diddy? This is a
did this is too close by Next.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So Next is from the Twin Cities, are they? Yeah,
my buddy went to high school with two of the
guys that were in next, and so in college we
saw their I saw like their yearbook picture.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
It was because they were in the yearbook.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But yep, that was also the year where Argentina won
the World championship right in basketball. I think it was
in Indianapolis that year, and no, it was in Greece.
But yeah, that was not so good.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
What I like about this song is just the subtlety,
and you know it's they don't say out loud that
the song is about dancing too close to someone on
the dance floorm. What typically happens to males when that
happens subtlety, it's a lost art.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Saving Private Ryan nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
One of my favorites, one of your favorites, Absolutely hell
of a was al the cast even Vin Diesel puts
on a performance.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Basically a shortened version of Band of Brothers. What are
you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
There?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Was I was gonna say something, but I wanted to
double check before I said it. So let me, let
me just double check.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay. Well, nineteen ninety eight at the box office, right,
Titanic was the number one movie.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And it's interesting you say that, Doug, because Titanic was
released in nineteen ninety seven, but in late ninety so it.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Was such a jugger number nineteen.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It was such a juggernaut that it won the box
office for nineteen ninety eight as well. It had a
year shelf life at the box office.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Pretty good year. Movies at the top there Armageddon, which
I liked.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, Armigan's an entertaining movie. Yeah, it could have
been something about but it's great.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Something about Mary at the saving probably Ryan at the
third biggest box office? Something about Mary? Have you ever
been to Santiago, Chile? Twice? Last year? The water Bowl?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Hol hold on, Doug.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Now, we brought up Bett Brett Farv earlier in this segment,
and there's a very fatus quote.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Ye doing here?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
What the hell was Brett Farvre doing?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
So? It was for quite a year.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
It was that that couple of years ninety six, seven, eight,
that was like Brett Favre's heyday.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
What was crazy too, was didn't he say like he
was in town to play the Dolphins. Yes, and he
didn't get that much crossover between AFC and NFC, So
it had to be like really like an off chance
that the Packers would be in Miami for a game
because obviously they're not in the same division, they're not
in the same conference, and you weren't playing the AFC
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East every year if you're in the NFC Central, So
it was odd. It was quite the coincidence that he
would be in Miami that week playing the Dolphins, because
they probably only went there like once every ten years.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean, that's it's a big stretch. Was out
of the script room. It's amazing they even accepted it
in the script room.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You know. Oh, that's one of my favorite movies. I
love that great movie.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Also the on the Seinfeld Seinfeld wrapped up in nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Good call.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, remember when when he was with Larry King and
Larry King was like, you canceled them, They didn't cancel you, right,
It's like Larry, I was number one, Larry.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, he got all defensive right, Well it was, I.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Mean you tugging.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It was one of the worst prepared interviews in the
history of mankind. What are you getting so defensive about?
It was like I was number one, Larry, seventy eight
million viewers.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
It was a controversial final episode though, well I don't
know about it.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, people didn't like it. They ended up in.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Nobody likes the last episode, but this.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
One, the Seinfeld one, really rubbed people the wrong way.
I liked it because they brought back all these old
characters to testify against the gang. They end up in jail,
and it's sort of like, you know, people always want
to have.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I don't give it away. Why would you give it away?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Twenty five years later? Twenty seven years later.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I hope you've seen the Finallet spoiler at what a
year though, as good as it gets us that year.
I love that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Seinfeld ended, Jordan's Reign ended, and Monica Winsky. That's quite
a year like that's those are things that have stuck
and will stick the period, the through history as memorable events.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
All I did not have sexual relations.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
For that woman.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
M that's all all, it depends what your definition is.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
And guys, you know other people might have been listening
to this song and they're walkman.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh, yes, great song.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Two solo artists dan coming together to do this.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Brandy and Monica h.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I felt Brandy's parts were better, and I feel like
Brandy and Monica brought their game because they were competing
with each other in this song not only for the boy,
but also for who was toping this song. And I
actually give the nod to Brandy. Like Brandy's parts better
in this song.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So wait, just for clarification for people that are just
tuning in, is this Monica Lewinsky.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
A year for Monica? That would have been.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Quite the mashup that would have been that Bill is Mine?
This was a very popular song. Should have been Hillary
in Monica. That boy's mine? Right, I think deler is
like you can have him? Yeah, probably he's yours.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Nineteen ninety eight Kentucky Tubby Smith cut down the nets
in college Hoops.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
And they love him in Lexington. Once again, they.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Brought us that first Final four, I believe in San Antonio,
I was not aware of that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
That wasn't san Antonio can I name the schools.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ninety eight Okay, that was my sophomore or at Oklahoma State, Utah, yep, Utah, Kentucky,
Rick mcjeris, yeah, Keith van Horne, et cetera, et cetera,
Andre Miller, Hanod Mettela. It's going I need two more
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teams here, two more teams. Nineteen ninety eight Final four. Hold.
I'm thinking we lost to Duke, but Duke didn't get
to the final four. U Con wasn't there. They always won.
Whenever they went to the final four, they won it.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
They won Antonio four. Yeah, and then they wanted Yeah.
The next two in the same path.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I don't give me the other two.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Stanford, Mark Madson, Yea, Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Mark Madson, Mark Seaton also good Au teammate of mine.
Was Madison's backup.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I think North Carolina was the other team. I think
it was Vince Carter. I believe I didn't bring it up,
but I believe that's so.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
It was sure?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Why not was that?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You are?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I team coached by Jim Yrick.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jim Herrick.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Oh, okay, I'll sinking some.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They beat Kansas. Kansas was the favorite to win it.
They had raped the friends and Paul Pierce and I
think they lost in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City. Where did
they lose that game?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
It may have been in Saint Louis because it was
Katino Mobley. You know, our teammate here at Fox Sports
Radio was a member of that u URI team, Tyson
Wheeler on that squad.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Sure, Katino loves heartbreak.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Is Stanford rallied because Rhode Island was an eight seed
and it was North Carolina that year they were the
top seed in the East.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I don't think it was Vince Carter though, because Vince
was my high school year in ninety eight. When did
he how long did he stay in college?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I thought, I I'll tell you that maybe it was.
It was because there's Brendan Hayward. Uh yeah, Ed Cota,
Vince Carter, Antoine Jamison.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Anton Jamison. He was the hell of a college player.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
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Speaker 1 (19:21):
Uh. This is the Last Dance which Dan invented this
and I want to drive in and the song was
written about it, and pretty amazing to be a part.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Of bumb Balls.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So the knickser up three games to two, and like
the Nuggets, they got to go on the road take
on the Pistons. The Nuggets got to take on the
Clippers into it, and then of course you have last
night the Rockets. I think it out to a big
lead and they stomp the the Golden State Warriors. But
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the big story coming out of the Warriors Rockets game
was this idea that the Rockets were targeting Steph Curry's thumb.
Here's Steve Kerr on the rule that allows defenders to
impact the shooters fingers.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
So the rule the NBA is once the shot has
been released, you're allowed to hit the guy's arm. And
so what's happened in the league this year is players
always are they're gonna outsmart. You know the rules, they
know what they're doing. So players all over the league
are just taking shots at guys shooting hands after release
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because they know it's not going to be a foul.
And I'm very confident that next year in the league
will fix it because it's only a matter of time
before somebody, you know, breaks a thumb or breaks a
hand or whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
But these these are the rules.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I do believe they're allowed to call a flagrant if
they want. The refs could call flagrant if they if
the guy winds up and takes a takes a shot.
But no, it's been happening across the league all year long,
and said, dumbest thing I've ever heard. But you know,
we have to we have to take it through the
league process to get that changed, and that'll probably happen
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this summer, I would guess.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know. And and if you go in and listen
to the Rockets afterwards, they even basically said as much.
They didn't say they were targeting it, but they said like, hey,
if you get a bad ankle, you go after bad ankle.
Why not go after a bad, bad risk. Here's Steph
Curry on the Rockets going after his injured thumb.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
There's a pattern of like when is full extension? When
when it's like, what's the full point of release? Because
it's it's hard for ref I get it. It's you're
trying to look at the body, look at the release
and where contact is there's a subtle difference in how
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certain people do it. That's like when I say it's
if it's a foul, it's a foul. But other than that,
as a player, you can't worry about it too much
because whether you get to call or not, if you
complain or you can complain, if you dwell on it
and get distracted by it, then you're not worried about
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making shots. I'm trying to do both make shots and
if I get fouled, like, let them know I got foul.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So that's all I just you know, look, there's a
pattern there with the Houston Rockets, which is undeniable. The
weird thing about it is usually that type of stuff
is reserved for teams who are past their prime. Like
it's it's almost usually a team comes in and some
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of them have too much success too soon. We saw
it what with the Hawks they got to the Eastern
Conference finals one year. We saw with Portland they got
the Western Conference finals this year. Sometimes they get there
too soon, they think they're close, they make one move
and then one fall apart. I remember the Thunder. You know,
they started to climb the ranks. Then they went to
the NBA Finals. I cherried away James Harden never get
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back to the NBA NBA Finals. Of course, they did
succumb to the Warriors up three games to one. But
usually then you go on some sort of championship run.
If you win a championship where you're close to or
you're really you're a contender on a yearly basis, and
then as you age, you get to a series where
it's three games to one or three games to none,
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or it just appears to be done and the fouls
get harder, it gets a little chippier, and it almost
feels like they think the only way to beat you
is to get you off your game, or to get
a technical foul, or to all off and punch you.
The Rockets are a young team. Dylan Brooks is not
an old guy, and yet they're doing the old guy
stuff in terms of, you know, just trying to make
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it a mess. And those games are hard to watch
because you know, I don't get me wrong, Draymond Green
Can has some theatrics, so does Jimmy Butler. But there's
something about Dylan Brooks and the openly relatively borderline to
over the line dirty stuff which just is it's like
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you're too young to be that dirty. That makes sense.
It's like when a young kid laces together like four
or five curse words, right, Like a young kid says
an F word and everybody everybody laughs or says bull chips,
but only doesn't say bull chips like you laugh when
he starts dropping, you know, almost versus full of cuss words.
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You're like, whoa, what's going on here? Same thing with
Dylan Brooks. It's like one thing for a play here,
a play there. It's another thing late in your career
when you're kind of an enforcer and you can't play anymore.
It's nothing for early in your career to be like
the most hated guy in the NBA. And then whether
or not you're targeting and he didn't deny, they're targeting
the thumb of Steph Curry. You're gonna target the most
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popular player in the NBA. While you're at it, Why
don't you take cheap shots at Caitlin Clark too, that'll
make you more beloved? All right? Just Tuck got leap
show Fox Sports Radio. Do you guys hear this? Just
Lebron after this? It's kind of a weird exchange with
the reporter take a listen. Oh, I'm sorry, We'll get
it one second. Yeah, you know, there were just weirdness
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after the game. JJ Reddick super defensive with the kind
of question about you know, substitutions, and then Lebron had
this exchange with a reporter after the game in terms
of roster needs.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Basically, from mid January on, right when Ady got injured,
you guys started playing a lot of centerless basketball and
not required a lot from you and Doe and Ruie
and then Vando once he got back, just from a
physical like taxing standpoint. How how tough was that for
the last three and a half months to play.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That style And do you feel like that caught up
at all in this series? No comment, I'll never say
that because.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
My guy Ady said what he needed and then he
was gone the following week, so.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I got no comment.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's one of those like he's really
gonna say Ad got traded the next week, like because
of his comment. I don't know. I don't want to
be that guy who's just like parsing everything that Lebron says. Guys,
but there is there's something to the artificiality of many
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of the statements, which just feels it just feels super weird.
It's just uncomfortable. Like, look, you're forty years older than
NBA's all time scoring leader. You've won how many NBA titles? For?
Four NBA titles? Yeah? Right, one in Cleveland, one in LA,
two in Miami. Right, four NBA titles. Like somebody asked
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you legitate question. Just give a legit answer. Why is
that so hard? I'm not really I don't get it.
Fired Do you get it? Do you understand why he
can't just answer the question?
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I I don't understand the reasoning. I mean, I think
it's it's a power play, not that he's trying to
show off his power, but just always be Lebron James,
to always kind of be in that mode. I think
that maybe he feels that that's that's an obligation instead
of just you know, being real and answering the question.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Jay STU, can you figure it out?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
If I'm Anthony Davis and and or Wilka Doncic and
I see him say that, I can't really feel great
about it, right because the Anthony Davis side of that
is that Lebron is intimating that the reason he got
sent out is because he asked for more help. That's
not a good reflection on what happened, right because and
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it intimates that Lebron didn't know that Anthony Davis was
going to be traded, which we all know was a
lot right.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, it's clearly joking, but it was. Yeah, it's it's
just a it's just a weird place, just you know,
I mean these even giving a kind of cliche stock
answer is a better answer to that. Hey, look, we
had a good year obviously, you know, one of the
Mark Williams trade to go through. It didn't got a
little bit exposed. We gotta get better. Everybody's gotta get better,
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and whatever Rob, whatever Rob thinks to help us get better,
I'm all for like these these answers are not that hard,
instead of trying to be funny and go like, hey,
a d answers totally what indeed he got traded a
week later? I just I don't know. It just feels
I think power play is the word like, you don't
deserve a real answer. You don't deserve a real answer.
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I'm gonna save that answer for my podcast, or I'm
gonna save that answer, you know, to leak it out
to one of the you know, one of the sources
of one of the networks, so that people know how
I feel. Just tell us what you think. It's not
that hard.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And now we're gonna start the yearly tradition, right of
since he's been eliminated the playoffs and he needs to
suck up the auction of the room. Now he's going
to throw this thing out here. I don't know if
I'm going to play again, And so the rest of
the NBA playoffs are going to be about Lebron. Is
he going to play again?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Right? Because we've been doing that for I think two
years now.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
There's no way he doesn't play again, right. Is there
any way he doesn't play again?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think he plays again.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
But what I thought was pretty jarring last night was
we talked so much about the minutes that the Lakers
played in the second half of Game four in Minneapolis
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
They had an.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Extra day of rest, and you know, there wasn't it
wasn't a even if they won last night, then there's
no way that they win on Friday in Minneapolis in
Game six. There was no way they were going to
win that game.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, the Lakers are in the same position they were
in with Kobe Bryant. Just Lebron is a better player
than Kobe was after the Achilles surgery. Where they have
him their base. Whatever he wants to do, if he
wants to keep playing, there's nothing that they can do, yeah,
because they're clearly not showing they hey, hey, we're good.
We're good, even though like, look, the transition is pretty obvious.
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What has to happen. You've got to build a team
around around Luca, and to build a team around Luca,
you have to have great defenders, and Lebron is that
guy anymore.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I I agree wholeheartedly with all of that. It dawned
on me a little bit with the Warriors last night.
You know, Steve kerth throws in the towel pretty early yeap,
knowing what's at stake and you know, if the game
is worth going after and the long term ramifications of
playing staff or Jimmy Butler a lot of minutes in
that game kind of just accepting the fate. It's like,
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it's to the point now where the Lakers and maybe
for the fact the Warriors, they're never going to sweep anybody.
They're never gonna because of how competitive the West is
going to be. I want to say that they're not
going to compete in the regular season because the Lakers
finished third, but they're also very close to being a
seventh seed or eight seed considering the standings that they are. Like,
if you're Lebron and you look at that, like there's
there's not going to be an opportunity where they sweep
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a team and get rest throughout the playoffs. Like I
think that last night, like when you sit back and
kind of absorb everything and wi your team was and
where they're gassed and what you can provide.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Again, it's you don't want to have Lebron.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Playing forty minutes when he's forty two years old, But
I do think like it could be a wake up
call for him of where he is physically in his
career in a playoff grind. I felt like last night
could be a wake.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Up call again. But how do you get out of that?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You're never going to bring Lebron James off the bench.
He's never going to be your best player ever again.
And yet your best player is a terrible defensive player
and he's just not Lebron's not gonna be able to
be a good defensive player in the playoffs, especially he's
not now, He's not going to be a year later
as he gets a year older.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah, And I think the reason I'm saying it is
I think that if there was a way for Lebron
to be like, Okay, I don't want to do this anymore,
or I can't do this anymore, or this was my
wake up call that maybe that is it. Probably not
again with the player option for next year and fifty
some million on the table, probably not going to be
the case. But if there was a reason to sit
back and really analyze everything, I think that this series
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and last night probably showed a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, yeah, weird place for the weird that the Lakers
are back in this place, you know, back in this place.
I do wonder like I would love we got at
some point have like a Lakers historian on as if
they were in this place with Kareem, because Kareem was
playing well past his prime into you know, forty years
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old as well, and then he retired. He had that
whole retirement tour, which Lebron's got to have a retirement tour, right, Like,
there's no question I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
you something a real quick. I have heard today that
people say, hey, Bryce James in a year will be
draft eligible. Okay, I'm not saying this be mean. Bryce
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James is nowhere near the prospect his brother was. His
brother's been discussed a tonight. Bryce is. He signed at Arizona.
Young guys don't play unless it's you know, Carter Bryant's
the only one that played this year at Arizona. That's young.
That that that one happens, that's that's a that's a
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Yannis sort of move.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
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Speaker 5 (34:56):
Happy Birthdays with my Mom turns fifty nine again today,
oh Her and Mark Medina yes, May one, so a
very happy birthday. Was able to speak to her earlier today,
sing a little happy birthday with the fam.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
How's your mom? On the phone, she got into the
ego on on about things that don't matter.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
She's she's great, She's great.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Mom was great too.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yes, I can also tell you this.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
We had a lot left on the bone in nineteen
ninety eight, so we think that we're running out of years.
I think we could bring ninety eight back at something.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Completely so we can revent. We can revamp all these years.
Because every time we get done doing don't call it
a throw back Thursday, I'm driving to my next destination
and I'm like, oh, I forgot that.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Yeah, I think we spent too much time on too
close by next it was slid three for minutes, deserved, warranted.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Can coast.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I'll tell you who I'll be getting too close to
NBA players. That's John Halliburton. That's because the father of
Tyrese Haliburton will not be attending Pacers playoff games for
the foreseeable future. This agreement was reached after conversations with
the Pacers' front office. ESPN the first to report the news.
John Halliburton was the one who taunted Giannison Tetecumpo on
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the court following the Pacers went over the Bucks in
Game five.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Did you hear his quote? He's like, I wasn't staring
at him. I was staring through him.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Yes, yeah, And he did it with the Milwaukee TV
station and as he did multiple interviews. But I know
the one TV interview that I saw was with WTMJ
and Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't staring at him. I walked right
up to him, but I wasn't staring at him. I
was staring through him.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Johannes, he's a ghost. He's Patrick Swayzey apparently.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Your honor. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
You will not see John Halliburton for the foreseeable future,
was how Shams presented it. Sham's also reporting the Sons
are promoting Brian Gregory to be their new general manager.
James Jones is being resigned to a senior advisory role
within the front office of the team.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
James Jones is the what is it the assistant to
the regional manager. Is that what he's assigned to?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Senior advisor?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Senior I was is that a step up from general manager.
It's fairly lateral sort of right, report, we'll read it.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Rick Patino and Saint John's going to be replacing UCLA
in that CBS Sports Classic. So Rick Patino gets to
face the team that he wants coached. And yeah, one
of his former players, Mark Popenkentucky. The Red Storm and
Wildcats will play in Atlanta on December twentieth as part
of that series.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I believe tomorrow I'll be able to announce our first
game of next Year's pretty good. Another one you guys
don't want to attend? Yes?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Could you?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Could we get any hints like portion of the country?
Is it a home game or road game?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We are not, I don't. I think we're going to
try and not leave the Central time zone. We have
one game outside the Central time zone next year. Okay,
so it is in the Central time zone.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Okay, all right, looking forward to that one.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Major League Baseball, by the way, announcing attendance through the
first for the opening month, largest taking month in eight years,
twenty seven and sixty fans per game to date, highest
average since the end of April and twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And I think, honestly like the A's are actually drawing
better despite the fact that they're in a minor league
park because nobody went last year and now not a
lot of people go, but not a lot is better.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Than the race playing in the minor league park as well.
Same thing thing about ten thousand. Yeah, so that's the press.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
That was the press, all right, ed, check out the
podcast whenever you'd like in the meantime back tomorrow and
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that's what we are outer space. We fly and we land.
We just got sports with you on a daily basis. Wow.
You know, there's a couple of things that I've determined
we're gonna get to. Don't call it throw back Thursday
in a second, but I do think we can all agree.
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There's a couple debates in life which are never going
to be one, right, just never going to be one. Uh.
And I thought of one yesterday which Jay Stu got to,
which is who actually won World War Two? Right? Jasetu's like, hey,
Russia actually won World War Two? That can be a
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debate last as old as time. The abortion debate, No,
there's no winner, no loser to it. And who's the
greatest basketball player of all time? Matter of fact, my nephew,
Gauge shout out to my boy, Gauge. He's going to
GCU next year, but I have you Gauge. He's like, yeah,
your brother's see now because he doesn't think Lebron's the
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second best player of all time. I'm like, well, you know,
we grew up watching Magic and Bird, and so we
thought Magic and Bird might be the best player of
all time right until Jordan was the best player. So
the point is that these are debates that I'm watching
last night and then watching on social media all day.
When people compare Lebron in the postseason and like, well
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Kobe never did this and Jordan never did that, I'm like, well, yeah,
but they didn't play when they're forty years old. I
just I've determined these are debate that will never be
one in your own mind. You're like, this is an
easy debate to settle. Again, that's in your own mind.
We do this every Thursday. I think this is really
a Jase too special, but we've all grown to truly
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enjoy it. Some people say, don't call it a throwback Thursday.
We say, don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So this is a part of the show where we
look back. We start with the year in sports and
then we veer off into other things. Jase do what's
the year that we're going?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. Did you
guys know that in nineteen ninety eight? This week in
nineteen ninety eight?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I want the listeners to all go back to
nineteen ninety eight. What were you doing, what were you
listening to, what were you watching? And what more importantly,
what sports were you following? What do you remember most
from that year? I bet you forgot this part. This
week in nineteen ninety eight, a rookie by the name
of Carrie Wood struck out twenty batters in a game.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I remember that carry Wood.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Was going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He was. He was Sandy Kofax, Satchel Page, and Walter
Johnson in the same pitcher, and I think he pitched
for three more seasons before Dusty Baker threw out his arm.
You know what happened this week too. In nineteen ninety eight, guys,
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some guy by the name of Tim Duncan won the
Rookie of the Year award in the NBA. You might
know his name. Never heard Dan Byer. We remember most
from that year in sports.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, you know, nineteen ninety eight, interesting year you mentioned
Carrie Wood. He did last a little bit more than
three years. He ended up pitching that Game seven that
the Cubs lost in the Marlins in two thousand and three,
homeward in that game despite the losing effort.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Wow, that's a good poll.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And Carrie would also in that twenty strikeout game against
the Astros Friday afternoon at Wrigley Field. I don't know
if Shane Reynolds was the opposing starter or not, but
it was quite a day for Carrie Wood. Not only
did Tim Duncan win the NBA Rookie of the Year,
it was the final year of the Bulls championship run
nineteen ninety eight. It was the rematch of the Bulls
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Jazz from the year prior. And I guess we could
all just say it was the last dance of the
Chicago Bulls. And that's where where did you get that phrase?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Last year?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Well, I'll tell you what, Jason. I was driving in
today and I was thinking about it, and I was
thinking about those six championships. When you recommended nineteen ninety eight,
and I'm like, you know what, that's kind of like
their last dance, you know, like when the DJ is like, hey,
last dance, everybody on the dance floor. So I thought
that that would be appropriate for that situation. But nineteen
ninety eight, the thing that stands out most in sports
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to me is the Bulls Final Championship against the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What do you remember most about about that? About that series,
I think everybody remembers the shot. My thing is it
had all the things Jordan and all the things Carl
Malone leading up to it. Remember Carmeloon, He well, a
first he had two free throws, then he had the layup,
then he had to steal, then he had the jump shot.
It was like Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, And the
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defense was part of the story. And then the other
part of the story was Carmelone had won the MVP
and had the ball with a chance to win the
game and got swiped by Jordan who came home from
the weak side. And then also a point of it
was the Jazz actually had time and got a pretty
good look and Stockton missed a top of the key three,
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the same shot that he had hit against Houston. Was
it that year or the year before to put them
in the NBA Finals Anyway, I digress.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
On a personal level, I was kind of fired up
for that moment because Brian Russell is now what he's
in lives in infamy as the guy that gave up
that game winning shot, and I think he's one of
the very few players that has ever played in the
NBA Finals that played at the Titan Gym. I could
think of Bruce Bowen and I can think of Brian Russell,
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maybe a couple of U NLV players.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah. Also, I mean you see Santa Barbara had had
a couple as well. You Seyervine had a lot of
NBA players, same Jim. Ninety eight, by the way, was
the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Do you guys remember that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The track at I forget Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Uh did not have sex with that woman?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
You remember Monica Lewinsky from nineteen ninety eight. I remember
Mark o'meira what a year was for Omeira in golf,
winning fifty percent of the majors that year, winning the
Masters in dramatic fashion, and then a few months later
at the Open Championship at Royal Birkdale, ending up winning
that his second major of his career. Justin Rose came
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on the scene that week as well, making his splash
with a birdie hole out on eighteen. It was prior
to him turning pro. He was the low amateur at
that Open championship. But it was also sandwiched in between
heartbreak two one Mira victories in between. If we remember
when the US Open it was held at the Olympic Club,
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Payne Stewart was oh so close to claiming his second
US Open title controversial pin placement on eighteen I believe,
on the Friday of that championship where a short putt
by Pain was missed and then continued to roll out.
Many players had problems with it, but in the end
Pain could not bring home the championship and it was
Lee Jansen who won his second US Open. However, Payne
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used that heartbreak to fuel him the next year to
go on and win at Pinehurst and Pinehurst number two.
But heartbreak for Paine Stewart at the US Open when
we talk about golf, but it was to Lee Jansen's
benefit who claimed his second US Open title.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
In the NFL, how many quarterbacks do you think through
for four thousand yards? Ninety eight?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Mmm, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Six, Jase Stu.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Under because you're asking the question one.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
One.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Playing in the game, I knew to guess Hi, It's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I would have guessed wrong here. Brett Favre was the
only one.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I purposely guessed wrong to prove your point of Like, yeah,
if I guessed zero, you would have been like, well
there was one, and that totally would have been let down.
But I played the game. That's all I asked my
wife to do. I go just play how much this cost?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And then just play the game. Yeah, just no, just
play along. That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, here's what's crazy about it. Okay, Brett Favre through
for four thousand yards. He had thirty one touchdowns, four
thousand That sounds about right, right. He had twenty three interceptions.
All right. I mean it's just so different than it
is now. You know, Troy Aikman was that was his
year was cut short. Twelve touchdown, eleven games, five interceptions,
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And I think that was the year in which John
Elway they won.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
The Super Bowl, right, Well, they had just beaten Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Brett fav in the Super Bowl right in January or February.
Then they were trying to complete their repeat.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And they did.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Now, the Vikings really dominated that season. That was the
That was the year of Randall, Conney Ham and Randy Moss.
They were lighting up the world, right and then Gary
Anderson missed a kick in the NFC title games.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Even even that with Randy Moss. Okay, with Chris Carter,
what was the other guy? Did they have, Jake What
was the other j Jake Greed? Yeah, Jake Greed. And
what's I got? Robert Smith was their running back? Okay,
so remember snapshot of today, snapshot of then. Randall didn't
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play in the sixteenth game of the year. They rested him.
He threw for thirty seven hundred yards, thirty four or touchdowns,
tenor receptions. A very good year by anybody's standards, but
again compared sort of pedestrian numbers compared to what people
put up today.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And yeah, especially when you think of that offense, to
think that, you know, Culpepper didn't there, Cunningham didn't throw
four four years.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, it's crazy, you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I remember watching a sixty minutes piece on Randall Conninham
and at some point the interviewer was like, what music
are you listening to right now? What gets you motivated
before the games? And I loved the song that he presented.
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Oh what a song, what a diddy? This is a
did this is too close by Next.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So Next is from the Twin Cities, are they? Yeah,
my buddy went to high school with two of the
guys that were in next, and so in college we
saw their I saw like their yearbook picture.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
It was because they were in the yearbook.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But yep, that was also the year where Argentina won
the World championship right in basketball. I think it was
in Indianapolis that year, and no, it was in Greece.
But yeah, that was not so good.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
What I like about this song is just the subtlety,
and you know it's they don't say out loud that
the song is about dancing too close to someone on
the dance floorm. What typically happens to males when that
happens subtlety, it's a lost art.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Saving Private Ryan nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
One of my favorites, one of your favorites, Absolutely hell
of a was al the cast even Vin Diesel puts
on a performance.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Basically a shortened version of Band of Brothers. What are
you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
There?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Was I was gonna say something, but I wanted to
double check before I said it. So let me, let
me just double check.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay. Well, nineteen ninety eight at the box office, right,
Titanic was the number one movie.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And it's interesting you say that, Doug, because Titanic was
released in nineteen ninety seven, but in late ninety so it.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Was such a jugger number nineteen.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It was such a juggernaut that it won the box
office for nineteen ninety eight as well. It had a
year shelf life at the box office.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Pretty good year. Movies at the top there Armageddon, which
I liked.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, Armigan's an entertaining movie. Yeah, it could have
been something about but it's great.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Something about Mary at the saving probably Ryan at the
third biggest box office? Something about Mary? Have you ever
been to Santiago, Chile? Twice? Last year? The water Bowl?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Hol hold on, Doug.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Now, we brought up Bett Brett Farv earlier in this segment,
and there's a very fatus quote.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Ye doing here?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
What the hell was Brett Farvre doing?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
So? It was for quite a year.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
It was that that couple of years ninety six, seven, eight,
that was like Brett Favre's heyday.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
What was crazy too, was didn't he say like he
was in town to play the Dolphins. Yes, and he
didn't get that much crossover between AFC and NFC, So
it had to be like really like an off chance
that the Packers would be in Miami for a game
because obviously they're not in the same division, they're not
in the same conference, and you weren't playing the AFC
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East every year if you're in the NFC Central, So
it was odd. It was quite the coincidence that he
would be in Miami that week playing the Dolphins, because
they probably only went there like once every ten years.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean, that's it's a big stretch. Was out
of the script room. It's amazing they even accepted it
in the script room.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You know. Oh, that's one of my favorite movies. I
love that great movie.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Also the on the Seinfeld Seinfeld wrapped up in nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Good call.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, remember when when he was with Larry King and
Larry King was like, you canceled them, They didn't cancel you, right,
It's like Larry, I was number one, Larry.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, he got all defensive right, Well it was, I.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Mean you tugging.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It was one of the worst prepared interviews in the
history of mankind. What are you getting so defensive about?
It was like I was number one, Larry, seventy eight
million viewers.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
It was a controversial final episode though, well I don't
know about it.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, people didn't like it. They ended up in.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Nobody likes the last episode, but this.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
One, the Seinfeld one, really rubbed people the wrong way.
I liked it because they brought back all these old
characters to testify against the gang. They end up in jail,
and it's sort of like, you know, people always want
to have.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I don't give it away. Why would you give it away?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Twenty five years later? Twenty seven years later.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I hope you've seen the Finallet spoiler at what a
year though, as good as it gets us that year.
I love that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Seinfeld ended, Jordan's Reign ended, and Monica Winsky. That's quite
a year like that's those are things that have stuck
and will stick the period, the through history as memorable events.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
All I did not have sexual relations.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
For that woman.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
M that's all all, it depends what your definition is.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
And guys, you know other people might have been listening
to this song and they're walkman.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh, yes, great song.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Two solo artists dan coming together to do this.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Brandy and Monica h.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I felt Brandy's parts were better, and I feel like
Brandy and Monica brought their game because they were competing
with each other in this song not only for the boy,
but also for who was toping this song. And I
actually give the nod to Brandy. Like Brandy's parts better
in this song.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So wait, just for clarification for people that are just
tuning in, is this Monica Lewinsky.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
A year for Monica? That would have been.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Quite the mashup that would have been that Bill is Mine?
This was a very popular song. Should have been Hillary
in Monica. That boy's mine? Right, I think deler is
like you can have him? Yeah, probably he's yours.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Nineteen ninety eight Kentucky Tubby Smith cut down the nets
in college Hoops.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
And they love him in Lexington. Once again, they.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Brought us that first Final four, I believe in San Antonio,
I was not aware of that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
That wasn't san Antonio can I name the schools.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ninety eight Okay, that was my sophomore or at Oklahoma State, Utah, yep, Utah, Kentucky,
Rick mcjeris, yeah, Keith van Horne, et cetera, et cetera,
Andre Miller, Hanod Mettela. It's going I need two more
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teams here, two more teams. Nineteen ninety eight Final four. Hold.
I'm thinking we lost to Duke, but Duke didn't get
to the final four. U Con wasn't there. They always won.
Whenever they went to the final four, they won it.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
They won Antonio four. Yeah, and then they wanted Yeah.
The next two in the same path.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I don't give me the other two.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Stanford, Mark Madson, Yea, Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Mark Madson, Mark Seaton also good Au teammate of mine.
Was Madison's backup.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I think North Carolina was the other team. I think
it was Vince Carter. I believe I didn't bring it up,
but I believe that's so.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
It was sure?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Why not was that?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You are?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I team coached by Jim Yrick.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jim Herrick.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Oh, okay, I'll sinking some.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They beat Kansas. Kansas was the favorite to win it.
They had raped the friends and Paul Pierce and I
think they lost in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City. Where did
they lose that game?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
It may have been in Saint Louis because it was
Katino Mobley. You know, our teammate here at Fox Sports
Radio was a member of that u URI team, Tyson
Wheeler on that squad.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Sure, Katino loves heartbreak.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Is Stanford rallied because Rhode Island was an eight seed
and it was North Carolina that year they were the
top seed in the East.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I don't think it was Vince Carter though, because Vince
was my high school year in ninety eight. When did
he how long did he stay in college?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I thought, I I'll tell you that maybe it was.
It was because there's Brendan Hayward. Uh yeah, Ed Cota,
Vince Carter, Antoine Jamison.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Anton Jamison. He was the hell of a college player.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, that's good. That's don't call them throw back Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (19:21):
Uh. This is the Last Dance which Dan invented this
and I want to drive in and the song was
written about it, and pretty amazing to be a part.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Of bumb Balls.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So the knickser up three games to two, and like
the Nuggets, they got to go on the road take
on the Pistons. The Nuggets got to take on the
Clippers into it, and then of course you have last
night the Rockets. I think it out to a big
lead and they stomp the the Golden State Warriors. But
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the big story coming out of the Warriors Rockets game
was this idea that the Rockets were targeting Steph Curry's thumb.
Here's Steve Kerr on the rule that allows defenders to
impact the shooters fingers.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
So the rule the NBA is once the shot has
been released, you're allowed to hit the guy's arm. And
so what's happened in the league this year is players
always are they're gonna outsmart. You know the rules, they
know what they're doing. So players all over the league
are just taking shots at guys shooting hands after release
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because they know it's not going to be a foul.
And I'm very confident that next year in the league
will fix it because it's only a matter of time
before somebody, you know, breaks a thumb or breaks a
hand or whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
But these these are the rules.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I do believe they're allowed to call a flagrant if
they want. The refs could call flagrant if they if
the guy winds up and takes a takes a shot.
But no, it's been happening across the league all year long,
and said, dumbest thing I've ever heard. But you know,
we have to we have to take it through the
league process to get that changed, and that'll probably happen
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this summer, I would guess.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know. And and if you go in and listen
to the Rockets afterwards, they even basically said as much.
They didn't say they were targeting it, but they said like, hey,
if you get a bad ankle, you go after bad ankle.
Why not go after a bad, bad risk. Here's Steph
Curry on the Rockets going after his injured thumb.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
There's a pattern of like when is full extension? When
when it's like, what's the full point of release? Because
it's it's hard for ref I get it. It's you're
trying to look at the body, look at the release
and where contact is there's a subtle difference in how
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certain people do it. That's like when I say it's
if it's a foul, it's a foul. But other than that,
as a player, you can't worry about it too much
because whether you get to call or not, if you
complain or you can complain, if you dwell on it
and get distracted by it, then you're not worried about
(22:11):
making shots. I'm trying to do both make shots and
if I get fouled, like, let them know I got foul.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So that's all I just you know, look, there's a
pattern there with the Houston Rockets, which is undeniable. The
weird thing about it is usually that type of stuff
is reserved for teams who are past their prime. Like
it's it's almost usually a team comes in and some
(22:39):
of them have too much success too soon. We saw
it what with the Hawks they got to the Eastern
Conference finals one year. We saw with Portland they got
the Western Conference finals this year. Sometimes they get there
too soon, they think they're close, they make one move
and then one fall apart. I remember the Thunder. You know,
they started to climb the ranks. Then they went to
the NBA Finals. I cherried away James Harden never get
(23:00):
back to the NBA NBA Finals. Of course, they did
succumb to the Warriors up three games to one. But
usually then you go on some sort of championship run.
If you win a championship where you're close to or
you're really you're a contender on a yearly basis, and
then as you age, you get to a series where
it's three games to one or three games to none,
(23:21):
or it just appears to be done and the fouls
get harder, it gets a little chippier, and it almost
feels like they think the only way to beat you
is to get you off your game, or to get
a technical foul, or to all off and punch you.
The Rockets are a young team. Dylan Brooks is not
an old guy, and yet they're doing the old guy
stuff in terms of, you know, just trying to make
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it a mess. And those games are hard to watch
because you know, I don't get me wrong, Draymond Green
Can has some theatrics, so does Jimmy Butler. But there's
something about Dylan Brooks and the openly relatively borderline to
over the line dirty stuff which just is it's like
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you're too young to be that dirty. That makes sense.
It's like when a young kid laces together like four
or five curse words, right, Like a young kid says
an F word and everybody everybody laughs or says bull chips,
but only doesn't say bull chips like you laugh when
he starts dropping, you know, almost versus full of cuss words.
(24:27):
You're like, whoa, what's going on here? Same thing with
Dylan Brooks. It's like one thing for a play here,
a play there. It's another thing late in your career
when you're kind of an enforcer and you can't play anymore.
It's nothing for early in your career to be like
the most hated guy in the NBA. And then whether
or not you're targeting and he didn't deny, they're targeting
the thumb of Steph Curry. You're gonna target the most
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popular player in the NBA. While you're at it, Why
don't you take cheap shots at Caitlin Clark too, that'll
make you more beloved? All right? Just Tuck got leap
show Fox Sports Radio. Do you guys hear this? Just
Lebron after this? It's kind of a weird exchange with
the reporter take a listen. Oh, I'm sorry, We'll get
it one second. Yeah, you know, there were just weirdness
(25:10):
after the game. JJ Reddick super defensive with the kind
of question about you know, substitutions, and then Lebron had
this exchange with a reporter after the game in terms
of roster needs.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Basically, from mid January on, right when Ady got injured,
you guys started playing a lot of centerless basketball and
not required a lot from you and Doe and Ruie
and then Vando once he got back, just from a
physical like taxing standpoint. How how tough was that for
the last three and a half months to play.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That style And do you feel like that caught up
at all in this series? No comment, I'll never say
that because.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
My guy Ady said what he needed and then he
was gone the following week, so.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I got no comment.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's one of those like he's really
gonna say Ad got traded the next week, like because
of his comment. I don't know. I don't want to
be that guy who's just like parsing everything that Lebron says. Guys,
but there is there's something to the artificiality of many
(26:31):
of the statements, which just feels it just feels super weird.
It's just uncomfortable. Like, look, you're forty years older than
NBA's all time scoring leader. You've won how many NBA titles? For?
Four NBA titles? Yeah? Right, one in Cleveland, one in LA,
two in Miami. Right, four NBA titles. Like somebody asked
(26:54):
you legitate question. Just give a legit answer. Why is
that so hard? I'm not really I don't get it.
Fired Do you get it? Do you understand why he
can't just answer the question?
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I I don't understand the reasoning. I mean, I think
it's it's a power play, not that he's trying to
show off his power, but just always be Lebron James,
to always kind of be in that mode. I think
that maybe he feels that that's that's an obligation instead
of just you know, being real and answering the question.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Jay STU, can you figure it out?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
If I'm Anthony Davis and and or Wilka Doncic and
I see him say that, I can't really feel great
about it, right because the Anthony Davis side of that
is that Lebron is intimating that the reason he got
sent out is because he asked for more help. That's
not a good reflection on what happened, right because and
(27:50):
it intimates that Lebron didn't know that Anthony Davis was
going to be traded, which we all know was a
lot right.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, it's clearly joking, but it was. Yeah, it's it's
just a it's just a weird place, just you know,
I mean these even giving a kind of cliche stock
answer is a better answer to that. Hey, look, we
had a good year obviously, you know, one of the
Mark Williams trade to go through. It didn't got a
little bit exposed. We gotta get better. Everybody's gotta get better,
(28:19):
and whatever Rob, whatever Rob thinks to help us get better,
I'm all for like these these answers are not that hard,
instead of trying to be funny and go like, hey,
a d answers totally what indeed he got traded a
week later? I just I don't know. It just feels
I think power play is the word like, you don't
deserve a real answer. You don't deserve a real answer.
(28:43):
I'm gonna save that answer for my podcast, or I'm
gonna save that answer, you know, to leak it out
to one of the you know, one of the sources
of one of the networks, so that people know how
I feel. Just tell us what you think. It's not
that hard.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And now we're gonna start the yearly tradition, right of
since he's been eliminated the playoffs and he needs to
suck up the auction of the room. Now he's going
to throw this thing out here. I don't know if
I'm going to play again, And so the rest of
the NBA playoffs are going to be about Lebron. Is
he going to play again?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Right? Because we've been doing that for I think two
years now.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
There's no way he doesn't play again, right. Is there
any way he doesn't play again?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think he plays again.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
But what I thought was pretty jarring last night was
we talked so much about the minutes that the Lakers
played in the second half of Game four in Minneapolis
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
They had an.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Extra day of rest, and you know, there wasn't it
wasn't a even if they won last night, then there's
no way that they win on Friday in Minneapolis in
Game six. There was no way they were going to
win that game.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, the Lakers are in the same position they were
in with Kobe Bryant. Just Lebron is a better player
than Kobe was after the Achilles surgery. Where they have
him their base. Whatever he wants to do, if he
wants to keep playing, there's nothing that they can do, yeah,
because they're clearly not showing they hey, hey, we're good.
We're good, even though like, look, the transition is pretty obvious.
(30:12):
What has to happen. You've got to build a team
around around Luca, and to build a team around Luca,
you have to have great defenders, and Lebron is that
guy anymore.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I I agree wholeheartedly with all of that. It dawned
on me a little bit with the Warriors last night.
You know, Steve kerth throws in the towel pretty early yeap,
knowing what's at stake and you know, if the game
is worth going after and the long term ramifications of
playing staff or Jimmy Butler a lot of minutes in
that game kind of just accepting the fate. It's like,
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it's to the point now where the Lakers and maybe
for the fact the Warriors, they're never going to sweep anybody.
They're never gonna because of how competitive the West is
going to be. I want to say that they're not
going to compete in the regular season because the Lakers
finished third, but they're also very close to being a
seventh seed or eight seed considering the standings that they are. Like,
if you're Lebron and you look at that, like there's
there's not going to be an opportunity where they sweep
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a team and get rest throughout the playoffs. Like I
think that last night, like when you sit back and
kind of absorb everything and wi your team was and
where they're gassed and what you can provide.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Again, it's you don't want to have Lebron.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Playing forty minutes when he's forty two years old, But
I do think like it could be a wake up
call for him of where he is physically in his
career in a playoff grind. I felt like last night
could be a wake.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Up call again. But how do you get out of that?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You're never going to bring Lebron James off the bench.
He's never going to be your best player ever again.
And yet your best player is a terrible defensive player
and he's just not Lebron's not gonna be able to
be a good defensive player in the playoffs, especially he's
not now, He's not going to be a year later
as he gets a year older.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah, And I think the reason I'm saying it is
I think that if there was a way for Lebron
to be like, Okay, I don't want to do this anymore,
or I can't do this anymore, or this was my
wake up call that maybe that is it. Probably not
again with the player option for next year and fifty
some million on the table, probably not going to be
the case. But if there was a reason to sit
back and really analyze everything, I think that this series
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and last night probably showed a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, yeah, weird place for the weird that the Lakers
are back in this place, you know, back in this place.
I do wonder like I would love we got at
some point have like a Lakers historian on as if
they were in this place with Kareem, because Kareem was
playing well past his prime into you know, forty years
(32:38):
old as well, and then he retired. He had that
whole retirement tour, which Lebron's got to have a retirement tour, right, Like,
there's no question I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
you something a real quick. I have heard today that
people say, hey, Bryce James in a year will be
draft eligible. Okay, I'm not saying this be mean. Bryce
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James is nowhere near the prospect his brother was. His
brother's been discussed a tonight. Bryce is. He signed at Arizona.
Young guys don't play unless it's you know, Carter Bryant's
the only one that played this year at Arizona. That's young.
That that that one happens, that's that's a that's a
(33:26):
Yannis sort of move.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But he's gonna have a retirement tour. He's absolutely gonna
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Speaker 5 (34:56):
Happy Birthdays with my Mom turns fifty nine again today,
oh Her and Mark Medina yes, May one, so a
very happy birthday. Was able to speak to her earlier today,
sing a little happy birthday with the fam.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
How's your mom? On the phone, she got into the
ego on on about things that don't matter.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
She's she's great, She's great.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Mom was great too.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yes, I can also tell you this.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
We had a lot left on the bone in nineteen
ninety eight, so we think that we're running out of years.
I think we could bring ninety eight back at something.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Completely so we can revent. We can revamp all these years.
Because every time we get done doing don't call it
a throw back Thursday, I'm driving to my next destination
and I'm like, oh, I forgot that.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Yeah, I think we spent too much time on too
close by next it was slid three for minutes, deserved, warranted.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Can coast.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I'll tell you who I'll be getting too close to
NBA players. That's John Halliburton. That's because the father of
Tyrese Haliburton will not be attending Pacers playoff games for
the foreseeable future. This agreement was reached after conversations with
the Pacers' front office. ESPN the first to report the news.
John Halliburton was the one who taunted Giannison Tetecumpo on
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the court following the Pacers went over the Bucks in
Game five.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Did you hear his quote? He's like, I wasn't staring
at him. I was staring through him.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Yes, yeah, And he did it with the Milwaukee TV
station and as he did multiple interviews. But I know
the one TV interview that I saw was with WTMJ
and Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't staring at him. I walked right
up to him, but I wasn't staring at him. I
was staring through him.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Johannes, he's a ghost. He's Patrick Swayzey apparently.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Your honor. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
You will not see John Halliburton for the foreseeable future,
was how Shams presented it. Sham's also reporting the Sons
are promoting Brian Gregory to be their new general manager.
James Jones is being resigned to a senior advisory role
within the front office of the team.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
James Jones is the what is it the assistant to
the regional manager. Is that what he's assigned to?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Senior advisor?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Senior I was is that a step up from general manager.
It's fairly lateral sort of right, report, we'll read it.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Rick Patino and Saint John's going to be replacing UCLA
in that CBS Sports Classic. So Rick Patino gets to
face the team that he wants coached. And yeah, one
of his former players, Mark Popenkentucky. The Red Storm and
Wildcats will play in Atlanta on December twentieth as part
of that series.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I believe tomorrow I'll be able to announce our first
game of next Year's pretty good. Another one you guys
don't want to attend? Yes?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Could you?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Could we get any hints like portion of the country?
Is it a home game or road game?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We are not, I don't. I think we're going to
try and not leave the Central time zone. We have
one game outside the Central time zone next year. Okay,
so it is in the Central time zone.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Okay, all right, looking forward to that one.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Major League Baseball, by the way, announcing attendance through the
first for the opening month, largest taking month in eight years,
twenty seven and sixty fans per game to date, highest
average since the end of April and twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And I think, honestly like the A's are actually drawing
better despite the fact that they're in a minor league
park because nobody went last year and now not a
lot of people go, but not a lot is better.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Than the race playing in the minor league park as well.
Same thing thing about ten thousand. Yeah, so that's the press.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
That was the press, all right, ed, check out the
podcast whenever you'd like in the meantime back tomorrow and
we'll have that announcement.
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