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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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No series that's tied at one has felt more over
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than the thunder Nuggets series, but for whatever reason, it
felt over last night, even though now you gotta go
to Denver playing out two against a team that has
one NBA title with with those guys starting in NBA
in NBA Finals, So we got some hoops to get to.
But it's a Thursday, which means it's don't call it
a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All right? Yeah, Tires Show is a Jason Stewart production,
but this segment specifically is a j STU production. Jay,
what is the year? We're not throwing it back to.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. Uh, just
a clarification here. Dan Bayer came up with the concept.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Didn't know that I came up.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I love the name, and then I followed through on
So it was like Dan wrote the book and then
I was a director who came in and just did
a creative change of some of the plot lines.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Dan, what was what? What did he change that you
from your original plan?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I had just a concept of looking back at, uh
the sports stuff that happened that year and in the
world of sports. I think Jason's added some of the
pop culture stuff to it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Right, Because, as I always do when I intro this,
I usually say, at Jason's heart, he'd like to be
like am rack or no FM rack DJ guyss just
like everybody has that one job that they never did
but they'd be really good at and they still kind
of want to do, right, like college basketball coach or
something like that, right, or morning FM DJ in early
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two thousands, right, those guys were making gigantic sums of
money doing all that stuff. Right, Buyer yours is what
PGA Golfer or Vern Lunquist up on the tower above
the masters, what's like the what's the like? The I
should always.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Have what's the what that you should always.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Have the job that you kind of always sort of wanted, yeah,
and just never really pursued.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah, Yeah, that would be that's yes, that would be
up there to be assigned.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Sam do you have one a whole at Augusta National.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Well, I always I always loved Indian Jones want to
be an archaeologist. But let me add this, I actually
caught a little glimpse of Jason's morning this morning. He
practices in his free time on the radio delivery.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What's the year? Jay Stu?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I want the listeners to all go back to two
thousand and two. I want us to go back to
two thousand year.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This is easy. The Angels won the World Series. Forget
everything else. Literally, since then, it's been all. They did it.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
They really did it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They won the World Series. They beat Barry Bonds and
the San Francisco Giants in Game seven at the Big A.
I don't I'd like that mamba out. The Angels won
the World Series in two thousand and two Troy Percival.
By the way, that was during the juicer years, right,
and obviously Barry Bonds was the king of all the juicers.
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But I'm not gonna name names. I know a couple
guys around that team. That team was so full of
juice they might as well have worked for a minute,
made okay, it was rao hey huh huh huh I'll
be here all week. That's my member is two thousand
and two, about.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
In two thousand and two. On this day in twenty two,
twenty three years ago today, Allen Iverson created the greatest
SoundBite in the history of sports.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Practice.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
We sitting in here, I supposed to be the franchise player,
and were in here talking about practice.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, listen, we're talking about practice, not a game,
not a game. Not a game. We're talking about practice, not.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
A game, not the game that I go out there
and die for and play every game like it's my last.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Not the game.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
We're talking about practice, man, I mean, how silly is that?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Man?
Speaker 7 (05:43):
We're talking about practice. I know it's important I do,
I honestly do. But we're talking about practice. Man, What
are we talking about practice? We're talking about practice, man,
We're talking about practice. We're talking about oh practice, We
ain't talking about the game. Were talking about practice.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Man.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
When you coming in arena and you see me play,
you see me play, don't you absolutely you see me?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Give everything? I got right? Absolutely well, were talking about
practice right now.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Just a complete disregard for how a leader should represent
a team. And then it was twenty three years ago, too,
when they lost in the first round of the NBA
Playoffs to the Celtics, a short year after going to
the finals and losing to the Lakers, which, by the way,
the Lakers finished off their three peat weeks later by
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beating the Nets in the NBA Finals. Lakers and Anaheim
are champions so far in the segment. They have one
thing in common, the five Freeway.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I feel that that was also the start of this
like four or five year pit of the NBA where
it was the pissed and the Spurs. And even though
the Lakers made it to the finals and four, it
wasn't like the normal Lakers team because it was Karl
Malone and it was just there just wasn't great basketball
during that time. And I don't know if Lebron losing
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in seven was was a breakout or the eight finals,
but I felt when the Nets went to back to
back NBA Finals, it was kind of the start of
this pit in the NBA. I don't know if you
guys felt the same way, but I.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Felt like that's why they was. It was terrible, That's
why they changed the rules, right, because it was really
hard to watch, really really hard to watch. Sam two
thousand and two. What what memory comes to your mind?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Well, Dan and I can team up on this one.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Iowa and Ohio State both went undefeated in the Big Ten. Iowa,
though suffered a home loss at home to Iowa State
a game there they led, I believe twenty four to seven.
So by a year's end, Iowa had the blemish of
an eleven to one record, and the Ohio State Buckeyes
with Craig Krenzel and many many other people at DAN
take that away, but the luck Eyes as they were known,
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went off to win the national championship Iowa with Brad
Banks second in the Heisman to Carson Palmer, and they
got smoked in the Orange Bowl against the USC Trojans.
But heck of a year for Kirk Farance winning co
championship of the Big Ten with the.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Buckeyes magical season, and the Buckeyes did have a luck
go their way many many times all the way to
the end in that championship game, but there was a
game against Cincinnati that they could have lost earlier in
the season, game against Illinois, game against Michigan, tight games
against Wisconsin. I was at the Holy Buckeye Miracle game
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in West Lafayette when on a fourth down and two
just past midfield, Craig Crenzel hit Michael Jenkins for a
touchdown to win a barn burner of a game ten six.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
That was That was nuts.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
It was a crazy season and for all of the
heartbreak as an Ohio State fan that I've had had
throughout my previous years, I was just waiting for the
bottom to fall out and for the other shoe to drop,
and it never did. And it was when they beat
Michigan that year, first time I ever got teary eyed
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with one of my teams. I didn't even cry when
they beat Miami in the National Championship game because it
was kind of surprising and as crazy as it was,
but I was so ready and Michigan had a chance.
They had four shots in the end zone at the end,
John Navarre threw one up at the end and it
was it ended up being picked off, and then Ohio
State went to the Fiesta Bowl. But winning that game
and not having Michigan ruin ruin what was a magical season.
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It was something that I was unfamiliar with and actually
became for clempt when it when it happened, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Kidding for clempt.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm getting a clempt talk amongst yourselves. Two thousand and
two football.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Season, I've got there was a jam packed year because
also we just did nicknames. If we would have done
hated nick names, I would have done Houston Texans because
it just I can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's so easy.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
It was a groan on you and all though, you know,
because it was also the name of a previous team
there were the Dallas Texans, so it's not even original
to them, and so it annoyed me. But it was
also the year that the Seahawks moved back to the
NFC after having so many years in the AFC. They
started out in nineteen seventy six in the NFC, which
I wasn't born, I don't remember, but they moved to
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the NFC in two thousand and two, and that was
that was that was different.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That was very very different.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Two thousand and two in movies, gave us the first
of the Spider Man series, right, I believe that was
the year the Tube maguire played Spider Man. William Dafoe
was the bad guy, Kristen duns was the was the
love interest. It also gave us.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I was a good Spider Man. I liked him as
Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Willem Dafoe is just such a good actor. He was
the green Goblin and that face of his very menacing face.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Uh m night. Shamalan gave us Signs.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Probably arguably possibly his last great horror film. I don't
know if he's done really anything good since then, because
I think previous to Signs, he did the Sixth Sense,
he did like What Is Unbreakable with Bruce Lee, Bruce
Willis and Samuel Jackson. But since Science it's been kind
of mostly missed. Signs is a is a fantastic alien
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horror movie because they don't show you the alien very
much until the end.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, don't give it away because it's always.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Now it is about It is about aliens. So crop circles.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That was the first born identity as well.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Right, great franchise.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It was great franchise. But I grew up. I think
I told you guys that I wasn't a great reader
growing up, and so my dad had me go back
and fortheen sports novels and regular novels. But one of
the book series that he gave me that I love
was Born the Born series Robert. Yeah, he was a
big lovelum guy. So book was better and it gave
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us my big fat Greek wedding, which is great because
could you make my big fat Greek wedding now? Because
it's like Greeks making fun of Greek culture.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Right, Doug, I mean your favorite dish and your favorite drop.
I love lamlam Yes, Greek lamb zero.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Very good and one of the great.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Oh go, I'm sorry going no, go ahead because I'm
about to take a left turn with you, Doug.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay. So, and then when you grew up with I
didn't have kids at the time, okay, but it became
a movie that we showed our kids. My kids were
born for six and nine, ice Ah Did anybody love
fidnasloth Right? Ice Age was good, became a good series.
Ice Ah two was okay. After that, I don't know
what happened, but Ray Romano played a mammoth. John Leguizamo
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played said the sloth. Dennis Liarly played the kind What
kind of uh cat was that? I forget a savor
to tiger? Right?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, that's a heck of a line up right there.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I mean, go ahead, dar Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
What a year it was in golf two thousand and two.
Tiger Woods at the top of his game when the
first two majors of the year, claiming the Masters and
then the two thousand and two US Open at Bethpage
black outdueling Phil Mickelson at the end as they were, uh,
just a group of parts, but Tiger held on for
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the win of the at that time second major of
the year, and he had hopes doug of completing the
career Grands or the in season Grand Slam. Excuse me
until the third round of the Open Championship at Mirfield
when this horrible weather cell came through smack dab during
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Tiger's third round, shot eighty one, worst professional round in
a major that he had shot in just awful weather.
In the end, Ernie Els won a four person playoff
in claiming at that time his third major championship and
first Claret Jog.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
He would win another a decade later.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But Tiger had an opportunity to go three for four,
but was outdualed that Hazel team by Rich Beam, who
edged Tiger by one shot. Tiger magnificent on that Sunday,
shooting a final round sixty seven, but was not enough
to catch Beam, who was one shot better. But two
thousand and two was a big year for Tiger Woods
as he was trying to chase the in season Grand
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Slam got fifty percent of it. Who knows what could
have happened if that weather cell on that Saturday at
Mierfield did not come through.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I'm guessing as you are watching Rich Beam win that tournament,
Dan you were, you had this CD in your car.
We all did sounded something like this.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yes, because it was August, it was super warm, super hot.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
This is the artist Nelly off the album Nellyville, his
second album. This top to charge for six weeks that summer.
I personally, I know this song was the more popular,
but I preferred Dilemma. The duet with Kelly Rowland on
that album just takes me right back to two thousand
and two as a single man on the prawl, because
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we all face a dilemma when we're with the ladies,
and you guys all know what I mean, get.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Up up on the dance flow. Mm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Nelly's lived an interesting career, right, doesn't he have that?
That that house in Saint Louis that's like all run down.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Abandoned, right, Yeah, yes, how about this banger from two
thousand and two.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's pretty much the opposite of a banger.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I don't know they use it.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
In a course light commercial right now. I think that's
what it is, in an ironic way.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, they got a wedding. It's very good.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I think some new generations use banger for just hit song.
When I think banger, I just.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Say, you think that's not a bank So I'm with you.
I'm with you, m I'm with you. Uh. Wasn't that
the year of Toby Keith heard a see the Red,
White and Blue?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Was?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Did that come out that year? And O two? Right?
I believe it did. And at the time it was
like sort of controversial because it was like we'll boot
a bootender ass it's the American way, right, And now
it's like now like everybody loves it. Of course, Toby
sadly passed away last year cancer. But yeah, that was
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that was when we were at war. That was, Uh
what second golf was? That Second Golf War? Was that
Iraq War?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well, remember we had just experienced nine to eleven and
we went hunting for the people that did it and
every place that wasn't the place they did it. Remember,
Saudi Arabians were on the planes. Never went into Saudi Arabia,
but we went into Afghanistan and we went into Iraq.
WMD's Oh, don't get me started on that. I will
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say this, A show started that year that changed the paradigm. Ooh,
American Idol launched. Kelly Clarkson's season of American Idol just
changed the way television was done. How many talent related
reality shows spawned from that. I know Survivor had already
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been out, but that was kind of a different genre
of reality. This was talent. I'm gonna vote you off
and I'm gonna have a judge that talks a lot
of crap that is insensitive, that is a bit blunt,
but it's gonna get some great ratings.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Saw Himon Cowell Simon Scowl.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Have you seen him recently though? Like he looks like
a completely different person.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I saw him one day about probably decade ago, maybe
even a little more, by the Whole Foods, by us,
driving with a top down and this like classic card
wanting everybody to know that he was Simon cow Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
What shows you on now?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Americans got talent, got talent. Yeah, I always liked him.
I mean he he got you know, people were like, oh,
he played the villain, but he always gave people the
straight truth. He was always honest with people. Sure, and
I think he's kind of beloved for it now. I
mean he's Simon Cowell take him as well.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
There is one person that didn't, but we don't remember,
from from two thousand and two American Idol, right, like
everybody Seacrest. That's when Seacrest became kind of a household name.
But wasn't there another There was two hosts, right, there
was Matt Jordan, Brian duncle, Brian Dunkleman. That's right, Brian Dunkleman.
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Whatever happened to Brian Dunkleman?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Great question.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I think that's that's perfectly stated as it is.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So what like what happened? Did they just like cut
costs with secrets so much better? Did he ask for
too much money for a year? Two? I would love
to know what really happened.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I'm not sure. Maybe Sam can fill us in.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Can you imagine though, that you were on America You're
a co host, the thing went for like it's still
going and like you didn't make it to season two.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It's tough Sam. It looks like he's had like sporadic
TV jobs and the UK. His last Wikipedia thing of
notice that he started a podcast. So he's one of
the few guys that started a podcast in recent years.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I uh, he said, he said, he stated his departure.
They get this from Wikipedia. So who knows? His departure
was due to a terrible way they treated the young
contestants and the show staging fights between the judges and
reshooting contestants with provide tears in their eyes. Oh so
you didn't like the most successful reality show in the
history of the of the brand. Huh? All right? He
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recently he has said that it was a mistake. You think,
what's what's the Weasonly young guy who worked for Montgomery
Burns in sih Yeah Smithers. Smithers.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Hey, listen, Smithers stuck with the with the power plant.
He's probably the happier because of it.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I have to mention this because I don't know. I
think that Jason knows this story. I would love this story, Doug.
I think that you know it, and I actually think
that Sam knows it. Two thousand and two college basketball season,
Maryland cuts down the nets, right, they beat Indiana in
the championship game in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Juan Dixon correct.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
And the story behind Wan Dixon was that both of
his parents had passed away when he was younger to aides.
And then we come to find out, and I saw
this on Real Sports that the person who passed away
was not Jan Dixon's real father, and he did not
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know that he had a biological father that was still alive.
They reconnected. But for that story, like to that point
of Wan Dixon, he would say, oh, Maryland, Gary Williams
wins Wan Dixon, the star of that team. Want Dixon's
parents died. And then I remember watching that Real Sports
and it was I think it was uncovered by a
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writer from the Baltimore Sun that discovered this. But yeah,
Wan Dixon's real dad was still alive. Happy enough, Wow,
yeah crazy they reconnected. And but two thousand and two
Maryland cut down the nets.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It kind of reminds me of that. You guys know
the Jack Nicholson story. Now, when he was forty years old,
he got a phone call from a magazine when he
was forty and they said, we're doing an article and
we want to get your thoughts on this woman. Well,
Jack Nicholson's what he thought was his sister was actually
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his mother, and he was raised by his grandmother who
had him believing the entire time that she was his mother.
Imagine getting that news at forty or and you're Jack Nicholson,
one of the most famous people in the world.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
So that would have been like late seventies, early eighties,
because he's why I think eighty eighty eight now something
like that.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I honestly once when you said that, when you started
with the story, I was like, he got a phone calls,
like he's got some kid, He's got a couple of kids,
you know, when he was hanging out with Magic Johnson
in the eighties. That's what That's where I thought you
were going with it. I'm not gonna lie anything else
great happened in two thousand and two. No, I'm sure
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Speaker 4 (23:43):
Don't call it a throwback.
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. We'll get you
to an update from Dan Byer in a moment, but
first I want to read you something. Uh. Mike Tomlin
was reportedly proactive in making sure George Pickens was moved.
The Cowboys announced it Acquir Pickens. Blah blah blah, bah
blah blah blah. Steelers insider uh Mark Caboli appeared on
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a Pittsburgh radio station and he said, quote what surprised
to me is from everything I've been heard I've I've
heard Mike Tomlin was the one that was in the
front of all of this. It wasn't Art Rooney, it
wasn't Omar Cohn, it was Mike, and then the organization's
decision on it's time to move on. Uh there was.
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That wasn't the only report suggesting Tomlin was involved, as
Gary Duloch of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette said the head
coach and con were behind the deal and a question
an answer piece, I told you guys this like again,
I experienced this sum as a coach last year, and
I the Steelers are an organization, They've been through a lot,
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obviously Antonio Brown, and honestly it's like reliving in now
with Antonio Brown's social media presence. But it's just the Hey,
it doesn't work here, that doesn't work here, and Mike Tomlin,
I'm sure is to the it doesn't matter how good
you are if you can't get along with dudes. That
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doesn't work here. Doesn't surprise me at all that the
Steelers chose culture over talent and the Cowboys chose talent
over culture. Both of those track Let's get to Dan
Bayer get a quick update, Dan, what you got?
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Warriors without Steph Curry to nine for Game two of
their playoff series with the Minnesota Timberwolves eight thirty Eastern time.
They'll play in Minneapolis. Warriors up one game to none
in the best of seven series on the ice. Tonight,
Knes and Capitals will skate in DC, but it's Carolina
up one game to none based off seven o'clock Eastern time.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oiler's in.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
The Golden Knights will skate in Vegas at nine thirty
Eastern Edmonton leads that series one game to none. Joe
Quinville has won three titles their Stanley Cup titles as
a head coach. Is the new head coach of the
Anaheim Ducks. Pittsburgh Pirates fired manager Derek Shelton today after
a twelve and twenty six start to the season. Shelton
was named skipper back in November of twenty nineteen. Bench
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coach Don Kelly will serve as manager for the rest
of this season. Twins top the Orioles today five to two,
sweeping that three game set. Red Sox blank the Rangers
five to nothing. The Royals are blanking the White Sox
right now six nothing, playing in the bottom of the
eighth in Kansas City. Royals looking for a four game sweep,
while the Tigers are up nine to one on the
Rockies in game one of a doubleheader in Denver. They're
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playing in the top of the sixth inning. Truest Championship.
Danny McCarthy is your first round leader. He is at
eight under par. Rory McElroy just on the course a
couple of holes left in his round. He is currently
five shots back at three under par. Keith Mitche has
now moved even with McCarthy, but still still on the
course at eight under Parr. Colin more Akwa one shot
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back at seven under. Doug Back to you.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's Doug Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh wow,
I you know, it's so interesting. The baseball aspect of
things is really really interesting. Right where the Pirates fired
their manager Derek Shelton, And I know they had a
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rough month, right, but that that is weird to hire
him fire him now, like I've yet to truly. Angels
are in last place, right, Yeah, I got that right,
Dodgers are good, Yeah, I got that. But the Pirates
firing Derek Shelton after a slow start again doesn't make
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it mean that it feels like it fixes things. But
it feels really soon, really soon? Is this buyer? Is there?
What's the normal timeline on first firing in Major League Baseball?
I don't make it to Memorial Day.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Weekends, usually not May eighth. It seems pretty early. But
I think Bud Black knows what he's They know what
they're going through in Colorado, and I think Bud Black
just actually got an extension prior to the start of
this season. Will Venables, the manager in Chicago with the
White Sox. So he's new to them, so you wouldn't
make him move. But yeah, the Pirates have not been good.
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They don't have a lot of great talent outside of
Paul Skins. But they were just swept by the Cardinals,
only won twelve games. It is early, but yeah, things
haven't gone well for Pittsburgh. Hasn't he been there since
twenty nineteen?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, it's five years five years, never.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Never been and had finished above five hundred. You've been
listening to the update. Oh yeah, yes, there you go.
That's that's all in my notes here.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I just this is right, and I do get it.
But like ben Cher, Carington's like Derek's family is a
big part of the Pirates family. Like, yeah, I don't
know if now's the time. You know, he's incredibly smart
and curious, driven baseball leader. I believe he was the
right person when I when he was hired. I believe
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the time has changed for is now necessary. Like he
was part of the family, but now we're going to
fire our family. I get it. You're like, you're not
good and at some point, you know you got to
start lobbing grenades and save your job as your gentle manager,
but it's a it's a weird one, like you don't
let the guy get the Memorial Day weekend to try
and fix it.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
There's a yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
And it's an interesting feel because I feel like in
the NBA, we just it's recycled coaches just NonStop and
and you churn out, move this guy out, move this
guy in. We saw with just the moves at the
end of the year with Denver and Memphis and having
having no qualms about trying to make a move one
way or the other.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
In the NFL, like.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Maybe you'll give a guy a a little longer contract
because you know, hey, this thing is, this thing's gonna
take a little while. We're not gonna We're not gonna
hold you to the first couple of years. I know
Kyle Shanahan was sought after, but when he came into
San Francisco, it felt like they were gonna give him
time to do what he needed to do. And in
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Major League Baseball, it's just interesting to see on how
I don't think it's handled like the NBA or the NFL.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I mentioned Bud Black.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Maybe that's a little like the NFL, but it feels
like Bud Black is just getting combat pay for managing
what they've got going on in Colorado and they'll just
deal with it.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
But major League Baseball it's different.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
By the way, I didn't realize Derek Shelton was the
manager of the Pirates one of those things where oh totally.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That was the other thing. I was like, Derek Shelton
got fired. So I honestly like, I got a text
from a buddy who's like, a he's a news guy
and he wants to kind of do what you and
I do, Dan, And he constantly texts, like literally five
minutes before news breaks he has the and I don't
know who's he's connected with, but he gets it before
it breaks, or maybe he just sits there by the
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wire and wait for you know. But I saw he's
like Derek Shelton, Derek Shelton's fired. I was like, oh, thanks, thanks, Steff.
I had no idea who's talking about, Like, was he
Blake Shelton's brother?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I know, I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay, Jase dou Of the of the man of the
teams in Major League Baseball, you are our biggest baseball fan?
Is that? Are we? Okay? Is everybody okay with that?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Baseball?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yes, yes, Dan, you're okay with that? Jase Samuel, okay
with that?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
How many of the managers can you name?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Let's see, I could probably get to twenty two?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Really, I mean it's not great radio, but you want
to take to coming up next and see how many
you can get out?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Looking at him, whatever you guys wants.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I love that. I love that. How many? How many
major League baseball teams can Jason Stewart, who watches and
tracks baseball more so than anybody on our staff on
our show, frankly probably on Fox Sports Radio, how many
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major league managers can he get? Find out? Next?
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I did say we quiz Jason Stewart. He's a man
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of honor and integrity, so I have no doubt that
he has not looked up Sam. Has he looked up
any of the names of managers during the break?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
No, he's playing it by the rules here, Okay. Can
I suggest something and then, just for the sake of time.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Just skip over which ones? No?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
No, I'm just saying that I'll just give you all
the managers off the top of the head that I
know without even thinking about it, and then the quiz
happens after that. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So Uh, Pirates is Don Kelly right? Didn't Dan say
that in the correct yep?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
The A's is Mark cottsee cal State Fort, Bob Melvin,
the Podreys.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That's not correct, Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Shootless Shickless Shickless is the pod Raise.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Mike Shilt Mike Shiltz shilt.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Bob Melvin is the Giants?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yankees Aaron Boone yep.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Red Sox.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Is Cora Yep.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I'm gonna need to be more specific, please, Alex, thank you, Blue.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Jays, You're going by the jeopardy rules stand whole.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
There's Joey Korra.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
There's two chorus Blue Jays.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'm I'm, I'm looking at him and I think he
actually went to cal State Fullerton, but I can't. I
can't put a name on it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I was going with Cito Gaston, No good, guess the Rays.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
That's Cash.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'll give you that, Kevin Cash, straight Cash, Homie Straightcat
w Orios.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's another guy who looks real familiar. I think he
even went to cal State Fortune, but I can't think
of it.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
They all went to cal State Fullerton, all of them. Everyone,
Brandon Hyde.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Brandon Hyde. I would have never gotten that one.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Don't worry.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I don't know if he will be manager for longing?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Is the angel Detroit Tigers?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Detroit Tigers is a J.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
Hinch's correct, Guardians The Guardians, huh, I know Terry Francone
is on the reds Now.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Okay, I'll give you that one, Indians.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I'm sorry, Guardians, I'm throwing a blind Royals.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Well, let me tell you who it is. Stephen Vote
former catchup.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, Royals.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, I don't think Dick Howser are still around. I
have no idea.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Matt is it Matt.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Quatrro oh Man.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Sure, wow, Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I think about Deli is still there.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
That's correct, Chicago White Sox, dan By gettings Waye last segment.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh he did. Yeah, I didn't hear that. I didn't
hear that one.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
So you don't know No, Will Venable, Oh wow, no.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Relations to Brett Vennible's head coach at the University of Oklahoma.
H Mariners.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
The Mariners is the I see his face.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I know is Panella? Panella?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
What's his name? Service?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
He was, but he's no longer And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Dan Lewson alive, just not the manager.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Dan Danilson, Wilson, the former catcher.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They're all former catchers.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Sure, yeah, let's move on some NL, Doug, Let's do
some NL.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I was just going through it now. The Mets.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's a great question, right, I don't know that guy's name.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Sorry, Carlos Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Carlos Mendoza.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Philly's Phillies.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That's another great one. I see him. I'm trying to
get what's what's his name?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That's the question that is that's actually the name of
this gate is it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Samson?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Oh? He was close, You're close. Sampson night. I was
way off.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I had the name of.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Swinston for the second time. Rob Thompson, but no Key
and Thompson Sampson. So Thompson, yeah, th h O s O.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Braves promos.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
He's been in the news. I should know this right
and it's some is it Snitker?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yes, Brian Sticker, Brian Sticker. There you go Nationals, the
Nats for the Natties.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Is it still a Dave, you know, the guy that
we grew up watching, Dave.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Dave my Man, Dave Martine, Dave Martinez, Dave Martinez. I
would have needed more special specificity, if anything.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Dave Miami Marlins, Miami.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Marlins, maddenly's gone. So I'm gonna go with who's the
guy that used to play for the Rockies? And he
what do you see, Santa Barbara? Is he still there?
What's his name? Dan?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
I don't know, I know who the I don't know
what you're talking about, but this guy used to coach
with the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Clayton McCullough, Oh wow, okay, yeah, good one, my mama,
calm clay I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Thinking about Skillbourgs or something or Cubs.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Is a kind of easy one.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Uh, Cubs is Craig Council.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Counsels speaking the manager? Okay, cards, did you get cards?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, we haven't done cards yet.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Who's with the cards now?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I don't know Oliver Marmel.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Oh he's been there a while. Yeah, I should know that.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Uh, the Brewers, you should get the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean he was on our show just last year. Yeah,
everyone knows his name, very familiar. Guy Perkins.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh oh no, Murphy, Pat Murphy, Murfey, Yeah, Murphy.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Okay, you knew Bluff, Bud Black, you knew that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Dodgers, you know, right?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
So Astros and Rangers.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I mean it's not you nowhere near twenty two? All right,
And I'm not saying this in any way to embarrass you,
Jay stew. The point is it's crazy how we don't
know any of the manager's names.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Rangers, I have no idea. Bruce Boci, Oh, it's diamond Backs. Diamondbacks.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Also, guys, I would get twenty two wrong Diamondbacks.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Do you know Diamondbacks?
Speaker 9 (39:33):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Who's it?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Tory Lavello, Oh of course, Oh yeah, he's been there
a while. And the Astros you didn't know, no, Joe Espata.
So one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen out of the thirty.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Okay, okay, Real Quick Minnesota a ten and a half
point favorite. We were right about the Thunder, we were
wrong about We're both wrong about this. The Celtics and Knicks.
Dan byer what he got. Give me the Timberwolves, Yes, Timberwolves.
No more wolves, just the Timberwolves, old school. I'm gonna
go the Wolves and the under, the Wolves and the under.
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