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June 2, 2025 • 43 mins

On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the Knicks bowing out in six games in the Eastern Conference Finals and does a postmortem on the team going into the off-season.

In this week's version of "Love AND Hate", Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from the weekend.

Doug weighs in on something Luka Doncic said about Lebron. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the ECF, Knicks and all of the other major headlines around the NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:25):
a beautiful sunny Green Bay, Wisconsin. Man, what a great
day it is here on one of the great lakes. Right,
So what happens when teams lose is we start to

(00:45):
discuss the dearly departed, Right, we start to discuss while
the body's still warm. We still have you know, thunder
to talk about, pasture to talk about. And it's gonna
be a hard series to get people interested in, just
be because it won't be followed up by the ratings wins,
because they're no name teams. I mean again, you can

(01:05):
take this as a slight if you'd like, and I
have obviously, I was just in Oklahoma this morning, right,
so I spent a lot of time there. I have
friends in the organization and what happens is people who
are can be really sensitive can take things in a
way where they'll go, oh, well you just you just
a jerk. You just try it. Like no, these are

(01:27):
the two smallest markets ever to meet up in NBA Championship.
There's small markets, doesn't matter, has nothing to do. This
is a lot like college athletics when we talk about
conference rey alignment. You're like, well, we've won this conference.
We've won this week, Like nobody cares how many people
actually watch when you play? Right, It's like no one

(01:49):
actually outside of me said this this year. It's like
everybody for years talked about like why do we care
so much about Texas? Why do we like, hey, what
was the number one rated game this year? Texas Georgia.
When Texas is back, the numbers are with them. Anyway,
won't be the most heavily watched, but we'll discuss it

(02:11):
a bunch. But I do think the Knicks are interesting
because like so many teams, and we've had a bunch.
The Atlanta Hawks went to the Eastern Conference Finals, right,
you can kind of go through the Philadelphia seventy six
ers go in the Eastern Conference Finals. You have teams
that it can be a little bit rare that they
got there and then are they one step away, or

(02:35):
they can try to make one big move. Let's talk
about the dearly depart of the New York Knicks. The
athletic as a writer, I think he's really talented. Got
him Fred Katz. He combined with James Edwards and they
wrote this piece on the future of the Knicks. Publicly,
Knicks players made veiled comments all season about the poor
communication causing their inconsistencies. Behind the scenes, they and coaches

(02:58):
expressed frustration with towns defensive habits, less concerned with his
talent level, more with his process on that end. Too often,
Towns executed incorrect coverages without communicating why he did it.
After it became a theme, players worried Towns didn't grasp
the importance of the matter. So what happens is you

(03:19):
start lobbing grenades at Karl Anthony Towns and the defensive
metrics are pretty obvious. He's not a very good defender.
He does bring offense in space, and as I said
when the trade was made, I don't know if it
makes of a championship team, but it fits. Considering Jalen
Brunson is probably the best physical small guard in the
league at getting and scoring tough twos. Okay, you know,

(03:41):
getting paint twos. And now you have a big who's
capable of shooting from three and getting his own shot.
Here's Jellen Brunson. He had this exchange with a reporter
about Tom Thibodeau after the game on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You talk about the confidence. Obviously, I feel like nobody
takes more criticism than that, and this team obviously has
turned around during his tenure. Do you kind of feel
that going forward he's the same guy tolift you, guys
the rest of the way that next.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Level this is? Is that a real question right now?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
You just asked me if I believe that, if he's
the right guy.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, thanks, guys.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Come on yeah again, I'm with Jalen Brunson, like, what
are we doing? You know, what are we doing now?
The flawed to the Knicks is this, right, Their two
best offensive players are their two worst defensive players. And
that's really, really, really hard, if not impossible to navigate

(04:47):
in the NBA these days. You can have one minus defender,
you can't have two and three. Well, that's what the
Lakers have. Right of your best players, because in order
for you to win, you got to have your best
players on the floor or not how the best of
the floor. You can't have two that can't guard anybody.
And Brunson, it's not like he doesn't, but he is

(05:07):
smallish and he's not a great defender. And Carl Towns
is plenty big, but not very athletic and not very
locked in on the defensive end. A lot of people
have brought up this remark from Becky Hammond, who's now
a head coach in the WNBA former NBA assistant. When

(05:28):
she was working on ESPN. This is a year and
a half ago, in December, she said this about.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Brunson, How stuck do you think the Knicks are here
in the Eastern Conference?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, I certainly agree with you.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
They're not getting into that tier. They don't have enough personnel,
they don't have the manpower that they need to hang
with those guys. I think you're going to get a
consistent team like they've been. Their pretty good team. They're
well coached, they're going to be on their defensive game.
But at the end of the day, they don't have
a dude. You got to have a dude. You got
to have a one a dude, and they're missing that.

(05:58):
At the end of the day, if we're just down
to brass taxes.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm sorry. I didn't want to disagree with Bick And
today they do have their dude, Jaylen Bronson. Now he's
too small. But here's the thing, and that's that's about you.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
I got a philosophy.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Can go ahead.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
If your best player is small, you're not winning. John Stockton,
Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, you could go down the list.
Steph Hurry, but that's small.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
He's like six three. But also though, I.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Mean he's the greatest shooter to ever walk the planet.
He's he's in, he's gonna get out.

Speaker 7 (06:39):
She let's see history says she is right. Okay, but
but we're living in a new age, okay, new day.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well this is where this is where you have people
on the show that have no sense of history. Isaiah
Thomas is small and he won in a much more
physical era. Now where Becky him and is right is
if you are And this is like Steph Curry, if
you're a minus defender, they're gonna hunt one person. You
can't have two that they hunt. You just can't. And

(07:11):
that's where when the Warriors have won, they've thrown out
four tremendous defenders and Steph's gotten better defensively. His success
or lack of success, in my opinion, has nothing to
do with how tall he is, how how strong he
is that he is whatever. It doesn't She's allowed to
have that philosophy. There are people in the NBA who

(07:34):
have that belief. She's not the first one to come
up with it. But again, does it matter that he's
I don't know, six' to? One it? Does it matters
if you have your other best player can't guard a
soul and won't communicate defensively and gets lost in. Whatever

(07:55):
now if you put four other it's like When Allen
iverson went to THE Nba, finals he had four other
junk yard. Dogs now they couldn't score enough and oh,
yeah by the, way they were in The. Lakers like
if you had Gave Allen iverson, another you, know a
big guy of the type Of shaquille, O'Neil it's a different. Story,
Now Ian iverson couldn't be that guy With shaquille. O'Neil
i'm not an. ABSOLUTIST i don't think anybody's too big

(08:19):
or too, small, uh too fat or too. Tall BUT
i think pointing To brunson as being too small is
the reason for the downfall of The. Knicks sort of.
LAUGHABLE i think what MOST nba, people what most coaches
would tell you is what they've run into is in

(08:43):
order to stop, somebody you can't have both and maybe
even one of those guys on the, floor, Right that's
why they went on runs With duce mcride at the.
Point Now duce McBride doesn't create shots for other. People
he turns the ball over too, much he doesn't get
back defensively, like but he's a dog on the. Basketball
they struggled with both of those guys on the, floor

(09:05):
but they can't score enough when they're not on the.
Floor and navigating that and changing that is what changed
the trajectory of The. Knicks the idea of getting rid
Of Tom thibodeau is, laughable. Honestly the idea of breaking
Up Karl Anthony towns And Jalen brunson one year in also.
Laughable DO i think they can get? Better? Sure if

(09:26):
they can Get gianni's For Carl, town's great do. It
otherwise you're not in a bad, place and you're gonna get.
BETTER i think other pieces have to be better if
you're gonna be At Jalen brunson is your best. Player
AND i think they're, closed BUT i don't think they're there.
Yet remember if they don't blow a lead in game,

(09:47):
one they're playing game? Seven what last? NIGHT i, mean
what are we?

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(10:41):
weekend WHICH i know you guys are really excited. About,
hey we do this Every. Monday it's a great way
to kind of get our thoughts on the, games the
moments of the. WEEKEND i ask all of the men
and women on this show to put together the list
things you love? Things ye, hay did we call it
love and? Hate what did you?

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Love?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
GOD i love you and what did you? Hate Meetle's
Claire hay.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Is mm mmmmmmmmmmmmmm love love, love hate hate hate hate
hate doude do do do do do?

Speaker 9 (11:16):
Do?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Uh i'm going to tell you WHAT i love THAT
i did this. Weekend, okay it has nothing new with,
sports nothing new with. SPORTS i. Saw FIRST i went
to my good friend and my assistant, Coach jordan McCabe's,
wedding which is at The coaler chap at the the

(11:38):
chapel At Coler Coler, Lodge Holy. Cow is that? Beautiful?
Anyway then Yesterday jay S, dow you can appreciate this
because you have an older. Son so my daughters are
both moving off, campus one into a, house one in the.
Department SO i, was, UH i Was bob the builder
yesterday and bobed the moveripule trips To, walmart AND i

(12:03):
had some like good dad. Advice right, THEN i learned
something THAT i didn't honestly. Know, so you, know when
we had, blinds LIKE i haven't had blinds in a
house in a long, Time like you, know the ones
where you turn to close them, up fancies was? Horizontal?
Uh what are they actually?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Called venetian? Blinds?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Venetian, sure that's what my mom always called.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Them.

Speaker 10 (12:28):
Venetian, okay so how do you pull up and pull
down The venetian? Blinds there's all tons of technology involved these.
Days sometimes you just pull the actual. Blinded sometimes how are.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
We, All chase Dou how are we all used to
how we used to pull yes?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Cord do you know?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
What they don't have anymore?

Speaker 11 (12:50):
Chords you know?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Why it's because choking.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Strength, yes apparently this is a big.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
ISSUE i wasn't aware up so last night it was
like a long, day long day of putting stuff together
with my Daughter, harper and she's, Like, dad everybody can
see in AND i don't know how to put these blinds.
Down i'm, like, DUDE i, like where's the? Cord and
THEN i saw this little sticker on says your cord

(13:21):
is a choking. Hazard just pulled down. Anyway she had
gone to bed and was. Scared she's, Like i'm you,
know her roommates are out of, town so of COURSE
i had to move everybody's stuff. In BUT i secured
the fortress by showing her how to pull down the. Blinds,
huh you stepped. Up and THEN i went out AND

(13:44):
i hunted and gathered. Food. RIGHT i started a fire
just because just to do man. Stuff, ANYWAY i loved.
It had a great time with my daughter and at
an unbelievable time At jordan's. Wedding let's get to.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
So you got a couple of. Things sounds like a
hell of a. Weekend did you actually put together the?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Blinds? No, oh you just bought, them, okay and.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Then they were already. There the blinds were.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
THERE i got.

Speaker 9 (14:07):
It.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Blinds blinds were. There it's a brand new house they moved.
Into there's, like you, know eight of them lined. Up
they're all brand. New they all look exactly the. Same
whatever kind of cute revamping a part of town and
still At.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oklahoma was it furnished or did you have to lift?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Filter we had to move.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Furniture stop the hammering.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
It it's a great way at our age to like
have a soft tissue.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Injury So i'm glad you no. Injuries no.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Injuries next a little sword, Tight but that's BECAUSE i
slept on her couch because she was, Like i'm still,
scared you, said my. Couch and it's not a couch for.
Sleeping it is basically a love. Seat see you.

Speaker 10 (14:43):
Had the legs up in the air a little bit
kind of, yeah it's not good for. Circulation it's not
good For.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay so on one of those do you put your
head up on the on the arm or do you
just lift your legs up and then you have a
circulation issue.

Speaker 10 (14:56):
Where you go you got to move your body around
throughout the night because after an hour, uncomfortable you'll be, like,
ah my legs don't have any blood in, them.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
And then you switch. Away it was it was.

Speaker 11 (15:05):
Uncomfortable i've been, there done that.

Speaker 10 (15:11):
Anyway but credit to, You, doug for showing your daughter
how to uh pull pull the blinds up and.

Speaker 11 (15:16):
Down it's good good. WORK i say someone someone had
to tell.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Her somebody to do, it saying what do you? Got
what was what was your love for the?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Weekend?

Speaker 10 (15:24):
WELL i love THE i would, SAY i love the
unselfishness THAT i saw from The Indiana pacers during the
awards ceremony for The Eastern Conference finals On saturday. NIGHT
i don't think many people would be surprised If Tyrese
haliburton was named The Eastern Conference FINALS. Mvp but, no

(15:44):
it Was Pascal siakam and he was awarded THE uh
The trophy for m V. P BUT i Think Tyrese
haliburton thought he might be getting the award because he
kind of stepped forward right as THE uh the m
V p was being Announce but, no it Was. Pascal
you know. What tyres just kind of stood, Back he,
laughed clapped his. Hands This pacers, team it could Be

(16:07):
siakam one, night it could Be haliburton the other. Night
they are ready to. Go they're ready for these. Finals.
Unselfish These pacers are and fun to.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Watch it was like A it was like one of
those bad, scenes lazy written scenes on like A tv
show Or, yeah the main characters talking about someone and
one of the people think they're talking about him and
they stand up though it looked like one.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Of THOSE, jaycetu what'd you leave on the?

Speaker 7 (16:34):
WEEKEND i love watching AND i encourage all of our
listeners to do. THIS i don't know how many people
have gotten a chance to go To. Vegas but if
you go To vegas and there's a major sporting, event
a big, game go to a, sportsbook it's it is
the best people. Watching it's one of the best experiences

(16:55):
you'll have because not everybody is just pulling for the final.
Score so you'll have your people that are there for The,
knicks people that were there for The. Pacers then you
were you just had random guys like throw their fist
up after a random three pointer was. Made you have
your first quarter. Betters you just have like these sporadic

(17:16):
shouts of bets made and it's just fascinating and there's
a great energy in the in the. Building SO i
was glad to uh to be able to experience, that
AND i encourage anybody who hasn't done it to do.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
IT i love. It what about you? THERE i low
what you love on the?

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Weekend WHAT i love from the weekend was literally love
As Buffalo bill's star Quarterback Josh allen got married over
the weekend To Hayley, steinfeld who is apparently an actress
and a. Singer according to my Frantic google. SEARCHES a moment. Ago,
however while that was, great that is not WHAT i

(17:58):
loved about. It WHAT i loved is for unknown, reasons
one of the wedding guests Was Larry david Of Curbed
Your enthusiasm. FAME i just don't, know and nobody seems
to know what the connection was Between Larry david and
the happy. Couple my only guess is that he confused Miss.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Steinfeld For.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Seinfeld and maybe that's why he showed up at the.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Wedding so we.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Are still looking for an explanation from Mister.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
David, oh you know. What that's, OKAY i get.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
It what do you?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Mean, well you, Know i'm not in the.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
MOOD i don't want to thank. You it's a nice,
gesture But i'm not in the.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Mood That the actual audio from his, toast.

Speaker 11 (18:46):
The Old Steinfeld seinfeld tie in. THERE i love.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
IT i guess well, done, there well.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
DONE i like, it really really. Good all, right let's
get to the other. Side let's find out what we
hated from the. Weekend start with a resident.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
Hater so a week, ago right, NOW i was asked
By Dan bayer And Manzi bolano says they filled in
for you on a memorial, day what's your hate from the?
Weekend AND i, SAID i Hate Max. Munsey Max mounsey
was well south of The mendoza. Line he's The dodgers

(19:21):
third baseman for those that don't, know and he was
coming off a weekend against The mets where he, said,
yeah my, DEFENSE i suck right now at. Defense AND i,
said if you suck at defense and you certainly can't,
hit why are you in the? Lineup? MAX i hate.
YOU i think we were on In Los angeles that,
day AND i think he may have heard, me because
he proceeded to hit four home runs over the next five,

(19:44):
games including two in that eighteen run game On. Saturday
Max mountsey woke up at the. Plate welcome, Back Max.
MOUNSEY i would say THAT i feel bad for telling
you THAT i hate, you BUT i think it probably
kicked in the. Ass so proud of.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
That, okay, Uh sam something you hate it for the?

Speaker 10 (20:08):
Weekend all, right, guys for, This i'm going to step
out for a second And i'm gonna let. In i'm
gonna just step out for a. Second let in someone real.
Quick hey it's A sam just stepped. Out this Is
captain obvious here steering the. Ship uh, yeah let's loop
this in from this technically not the, weekend But, friday
we'll call it the. Weekend Captain obvious here to tell

(20:30):
you that The fever Need Kaitlyn clark back, desperately. Desperately
let's go to last Game Kaitlyn clark played with The.
Fever they lose by two to The, liberty still, undefeated
and then we fast forward to this Past friday and
they lose The Connecticut, sun a team that came in.
Winless now you're zero and two Without Caitlin. Clark they

(20:50):
need her back. Desperately and we're in foreign territory here
With Kaitlyn clark and. Injuries we've never seen her really
be out with, injuries so we don't want to rush her.
Back but This fever, team they're under five hundred, now they're,
uh they can't stop the bleeding Without Caitlin.

Speaker 11 (21:05):
Clark, okay What Captain Captain obvious has left?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Room Sam spects of viewership been, like by the, way
do we know AND.

Speaker 10 (21:12):
I know that ticket prices have fallen off a cliff
for people who bought uh tickets to See Caitlyn, clark
whether they're visiting or at, home or what have.

Speaker 11 (21:21):
YOU i don't know about. Viewership Maybe isaac hast him
info on. THAT i don't.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Know Steve sager would oh what the?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Heck? Wow what was?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
That steve De saga would.

Speaker 11 (21:33):
Catching strays?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Here oh my?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
God uh, Okay i'll get to WHAT i hated from the.
Weekend how are we gonna have A sunday and no? Basketball?
Right how are we gonna have A sunday and no?
Basketball and and you know it's Like BASEBALL'S i know
It's Yankees, dodgers And i'm sure that before Yesterday Jay

(21:56):
stu loved every moment of. It but how are we
gonna have A? Sunday? Like you gotta clean up the.
Schedule it's got to be. Better they got to be
smarter about. It MIGHT i couldn't be possibly be the
only one who thinks. THAT i just remember yesterday and,
again LIKE i told, YOU i was my day was,
OCCUPIED i was doing a good, JOB i was off my,
Phone i'm hanging with my. Daughter but then you, know

(22:19):
you get to like that's seven seven thirty and you're
like all, right, like, nope gotta wait Till june. Fifth
don't get? It, WELL i have to Ask. Marsham BUT
i hate.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
That and THEN i think they're doing a game like
every three. Days it's ridiculous what they're gonna. Do so
you have you have a series with two teams that
aren't really going to rate well, anyways and people have
to sit.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Around, wait that's a great, point because do you know
THAT i remember this is this happened many times during
the First lakers three peet in the opening rounds of the.
Playoffs they would literally go five days between games because
they desperately wanted to be on NATIONAL. Tv so there
would be A game two on A sunday and they
wouldn't play again the game three Until. Friday it happened

(23:09):
all the time with that. Iteration so it's been a
problem for a.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
While, okay, isload do you have a you hated from the.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
WEEKEND i just got a new. NOMINEE i hated getting
ripped inaccurately moments ago by uh mister king of.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
The corn over there that happened on A, monday claiming
that it's Today. Monday it's not the weekend, Anymore, isaac
can't it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Count i'll make a special.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Exemption i'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
On top of the, well actually that's probably, true to
be honest with. You on top of, that but in
lieu of, THAT i was actually going to build on
What doug. SAID i hated the fact that we only
had ONE nba OR nhl postseason game for the entire.
Weekend that is an. OUTRAGER i, mean The Stanley Cup

(24:09):
final is not even going to face off Until. WEDNESDAY
i believe we as sports fans have a fair, birthright
if you, will that during this time of, year they'll
there will be at least One Stanley cup playoff game
OR nba playoff game on any given night through the

(24:30):
end of the playoffs and the finals for both. Sports
it is a national outrage that we are going to
have to wait Until wednesday for ANOTHER nba OR nhl postseason.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Game this is a.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Disgrace make it, Right, Commissioners bettman And.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Silver So, travesty it's a. Mockery it's A travis m. Mockery,
sam did you, Go, YES i did? It you? Did, Okay,
YEAH i got.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
That.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay i'm trying to think.

Speaker 11 (24:57):
We please don't, rehash did?

Speaker 3 (24:59):
We anybody maybe a Big Mike scott, Something Maybe Big.
Mike you got some guy that doesn't run anything around.
Here oh my big, Mic, NO i think we're.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
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Is?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It is It Cherry walker who sings? That Oh? Salmon
dave At sam And Dave. Samon dave also sing a soul.
Man that's, right original singers of Soul. Man did you
guys hear What luca had to say About lebron's? Workout
and now keep in mind this is on The Lebron's

(25:57):
Mind game. Podcast he was talking To, steve who also
obviously partners With lebron on the podcast About.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Lebron give me an example of a couple of things you've,
seen like being around him every day you're?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Life he does? That like what's he doing over?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
There?

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Like is there anything that stands out initially when you're, like, wow,
well first.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Of, all he shows up like ten hours before the.
Game that was really the main LIKE i, WAS.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
I, came it was twenty two years he was already
don't working ON i was, like, What.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
YEAH i, mean LOOK i DO i DO i know
it to be, true of, COURSE i think it's absolutely.
True lebron works incredibly, hard and you'd like to, think, Hey, luca,
like it's not that you don't work hard in your,
game but you gotta workrd in your body Like lebron
works on his. Body BUT i also think we got
to take it with a grain of. Salt it is his,
podcast is you, know like only say nice things about?

(26:49):
You what do you? Want we want to play out
the work ethic. Thing there's nothing wrong with saying the
guy works unbelievably hard and is there at all. HOURS
i don't think he missed any. NOTES i do, wonder
Like Anthony, davis how long did they they were friends
and they played, together And Anthony, DAVIS i don't. Know

(27:13):
it took like four years before he figured, Out, HEY
i got to get in. Shape so Does luca figured
out year? ONE i think that's the. QUESTION i don't
honestly know the answer to. IT i don't know the
answer to. It this Is Doug Gotlieb. Show here On
Fox Sports, radio can we catch up with the, Guys
jay stew you had a little fiftieth birthday weekend In
vegas And Sin.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
City let's say my Friend Steve Carbone Reality, steve he
turned fifty and we had a costume, Party eighties themed
costume party at The house Of blues at The Mandalay.
Bay not a big costume party, guy never have. Been
BUT i will say, this there's something about nostalgia eighties,

(27:56):
music dressing up with people your own, age and just
kind of taking a walk down memory. LANE i had
a good. Time many beers helped, that BUT i had
a good.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Time how did your had your craps? Playing?

Speaker 7 (28:09):
Due, WELL i got a system and We steve is
a big player as, well so we spent hours and
hours on the craps. TABLE i was A i THINK
i was either even or a little bit positive on my.
Craps but there's a new game in. TOWN i don't
know if our listeners know about. This it's called free Card.

(28:31):
Blackjack not three card but free Card. Blackjack it's like The,
rage it's the new. Trendy it's the designer game in.
Town SO i, actually even THOUGH i can't Stand. BLACKJACK
i sat down and played that.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Game that was pretty, good pretty good. GAME i recommend.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
It so what is The how does it?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Work dealer can.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
Draw to a twenty, Two so if the dealer draws
to a twenty, two it's not a. Bust they're going
to push and you get your money. Back so in
exchange for, that they're going to cover all of your
doubles and. Splits so if you get a six and
a five and you say double, down the house is.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Going to cover your.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
Bet if you get a seven and a seven and
you say split, them the house is going to cover your.
Bet and you know, what if you get a third,
seven they're going to cover your bet all in, Exchange
so that twenty two is not a.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Bust i'm not SURE i understood the.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Game it really needs a visual the vidio a. COMPANY
i was.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Literally paying attention to, you And i'm, like, okay, well,
okay you do have a system for. Craps it didn't
work that particular, time but even even the best guns missfire,
exactly SO i WILL i will grant you that. One
what were you in the dress up?

Speaker 7 (29:50):
PARTY i played myself in nineteen eighty. Seven in nineteen eighty,
SEVEN i went to An Iron maiden. Concert they were
on their Seventh son of a seventh on. TOUR i
had a mullet in nineteen eighty, seven SO i went as.
MYSELF i had a wig that was a, mullet with
An Iron maiden, tea some really tight. JEANS i recommend

(30:12):
to go to my social media to check it out
At Jason stewart.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
On twitter.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
And smoking hot Girlfriend.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Christina is smoking hot and she went as kind of
like your typical mid Eighties madonna looking person with a
lot of, pink her hair done up in eighties.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Garb she looked. Great you know?

Speaker 7 (30:38):
What oh, YEAH i realized On Saturday night that what
was the what was the workout sensation in the?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Eighties what did they?

Speaker 7 (30:47):
Do jazzu size jazz or step Aerobics jazus size women
look really good in jazzer size outfit still to this.
DAY i mean it's kind of, dated and obviously it
kind of depends on how how well you've kept in.
Shape but there were some jazzer sized women THAT i was, LIKE,
whoa that's pretty.

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Speaker 12 (31:29):
Day one one, time bottom of the ninth, inning the,
stretch the two to one, pitch swinging the, ground bowl
up the, middle base, it The marinors win. It randy
Or rosa right now jumps on first, base oh walk off,
single wholiold scores and The mariners winning two to one

(31:50):
over The Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Twins stuck gottleep show here On Fox Sports. Radio let's
let's welcome In Rick buker of, Course Fox, Sports Fox
sports Dot. Com It's Fox Sports RADIO nba insider as.
Well he knows all in terms of the. Association let's
start with The. Knicks give me your assessment of The
knicks now that we see them lose in six games

(32:13):
in The Eastern Conference.

Speaker 9 (32:14):
Finals they're a good. TEAM i just don't know that
They're they have every ingredient necessary to win a. Championship
team if You're i've said this for a while, now
If Galen brunson is going to be your best, PLAYER
i think there is a, window as tiny as it might,
be to winning a championship with him as your best,

(32:37):
player because it's been demonstrated a few times over the
history of THE nba that it's. Possible but you need
like the perfect team around. Him you, need you, know
a certain degree of talent that is going to cover his,
shortcomings as the twenty twenty Two Golden State warriors did

(32:57):
For Steph, curry as the two thousand and Four Detroit
pistons did With Chauncey, Billop AND i don't see that
there right. Now you, know the difficulty is we can
Blame Karl Anthony towns or Maybe josh hart in the
three point, shooting or Od ananoby's BASKETBALL iq Or Tom

(33:22):
thibodeau's somewhat conservative. Ways but the fact of the matter
is that whichever direction you want to, go there's just
they're not quite. THERE i think that they a case
could be made that they overachieved with what they, have
and at the very least they. ACHIEVED i don't think

(33:42):
there was some miscarriage or some mauth seasons that went.
On for the fact that they didn't end up in
THE Nba, Finals.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I've you, know obviously there's some Negative conthony town. Stuff
some are, saying you can't win With Jalen brunson in that.
Role what do you think they need to do to
take the next.

Speaker 9 (34:04):
STEP i do believe that what they need is they
need a genuine two, way big power forward Type and
AND i don't know that it has to be like,
This you know that it has to Be giannista de
compo or with With Kevin durant improve. Them, YEAH i
could make a case that he, Would but you, Know

(34:27):
i'm looking at guys like, it AND i don't know
that they're available or that they get. Him but A
Democras sabonis From, sacramento like a guy who can be
somewhat of a playmaker on the offensive, end you have
to guard and uh and defensively is capable of giving
you more than you, know on a on a consistent

(34:49):
basis Than Karl Anthony towns. Is but, those you, know
those guys are at this at this, stage even With
Jalen brunson taking less the amount that they spent on
Getting Michale bridges as if he was the final piece
is coming back to haunt. Them at this, point the

(35:10):
type of second, frontline number two player that they need
in order to play for a championship is going to
be infinitely difficult to. Acquire but to, me that's what
they need if they're going to reach the next.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Round, okay let's go to The Minnesota. Timberwolves, yeah what
do you think they need to do to change the?

Speaker 9 (35:38):
STORY i, think first and, Foremost Anthony edwards needs to
become a complete. Player he needs to be a three level.
Scorer he needs to be able to operate from multiple
places on the. Floor he needs to understand what being
the leader of a team really. Requires, defensively he has

(35:59):
to maintain his focus and set an example at both.
Ends AND i say all that BECAUSE i believe that
he's capable of, It BUT i REALLY i have a
hard time with when a team falls. Short we make
all sorts of allowances for the best, player or for
a player that we are projecting as being an all time,

(36:23):
great WHEN i can see so many clear shortcomings in their. Game,
so first and, FOREMOST i believe that ant needs to
improve on a multitude of level levels and that would
solve a lot of their. Problems they're the most expensive
roster in the. League and so you, know generally if

(36:46):
you're getting a player or you have a star that
is not quite, there either they're not getting paid you, know,
maximum or there are pieces around them that are getting
paid less than their actual market. Value Steph curry again
in the twenty twenty Two warriors With Andrew wiggins And Jordan.

(37:07):
Poole you, know examples like examples like, that and and
so you, KNOW i they they're they have the biggest
pay role in the. League they are in a mid sized,
market and they have a couple of. GUYS i, mean

(37:28):
it's gonna be hard for them to maintain what they
have right. Now if they're willing to spend the money
to do, it THEN i would do that and, say
you know, what we need you to take the next,
step BECAUSE i think if he takes the next, step
if he becomes fully what he's capable of, being, uh
then it solves a lot of their.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Problems before we get to THE nba, finals let's peer
on the. League where are we on the where are
you hearing on The gianna's.

Speaker 9 (37:56):
Front i've been exploring that a lot this, morning and
you know. That the the tricky part is you're looking
at teams that have the asset That milwaukee would want San, Antonio,
Brooklyn houston or at the top of the. List but

(38:16):
then there's a question of you, know does he honest
want to go to a team that's able to CONTEND
uh and how much influence is that is he going
to have on? THAT i would imagine considerable, Amount and
that's where it gets tricky because those teams don't have
the assets that he ultimately or that The milwaukee ultimately would.

(38:38):
Want so that's where that's where it becomes, difficult and
probably you're going to need multiple teams involved in order
to get him TO uh to the desired. DESTINATION i
don't know exactly right, Now LIKE i don't know that
there's a list or there's a there's a pecking order
in terms of who has the greatest, advantage But jannis

(39:01):
is there's there's going it could be a very crazy
summer BECAUSE i do think that it's going to we
are going to get to the point Where yannis and
The Milwaukee bucks agree that it's time to part ways
and they're going to start exploring.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
That, yeah, well you think we're going to get to that.
Point that's. Interesting, YEAH i.

Speaker 9 (39:19):
Think there's any doubt that we get to that point this.
SUMMER i don't on the. Bucks i'm trying to convince
them to. Sday i'm trying to convince them. Today if
you go to one of the teams in the, West,
Uh San antonio Or. Houston, oh that's that's a. Minefield
you're better off giving us a year to kind of
straighten things out here and compete in The. East brooklyn's

(39:43):
not going to get you there anytime. Soon like that
would be the ARGUMENT i would be making With. Milwaukee
BUT i just once Once jannis suggested that he's open
to the. IDEA i think IT'S i think it's really
hard to turn that.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Around durant likely on the? Move who else? Likely who
else likely on the? Move?

Speaker 9 (40:05):
Uh, boy that's a good. Question you know. What i'll
be interested to see what the what The Golden State
warriors are, doing whether they're going to hold serve with
what they, have or whether they explore we want to
Keep Jimmy. Butler what can we Translate Jimmy butler. Into,

(40:26):
obviously The Phoenix suns have long held held interest. There you,
know do they go back and and revisit that kind
of think across the, board like you, know Does. MINNESOTA
i think that they'll probably look to re Up Julius
randall as opposed to to moving. Him but they have they,

(40:50):
they're LIKE i, said the most expensive. Team they're into
the second. Apron their ability to to uh improve their
team is is extremely. LIMITED i would be interested to
see whether they they look at making a move For
Kevin durant and moving some of their. Pieces the problem

(41:12):
is is that it's going to be multiple. Pieces it
would have to Be Rudy gobert and And Mike, comedy
or would have to Be Julius randall And jade McDaniels
or you, Know Rob dillingham And Mikail Alexander. Walker like
they'd have to move multiple. Pieces AND i don't know
if you're Adding Kevin durant at this stage of his,

(41:35):
career he's still good enough to warrant.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That, okay last, thing you know what we can't? Do
LIKE i don't like the predictions, Thing but what do
you think about that when you think about this, series
what do you THINK.

Speaker 9 (41:54):
I think that any nipacers have the capability of making
it a more interesting series than people are giving him credit.
FOR i don't see. THEM i don't see a path
in which they win, it or THAT i would forecast
that they're going to win, it BECAUSE i just think
there are some matchups there that are going to be
difficult for them to, overcome And Oklahoma city thunder their

(42:16):
strengths are they mirror what The Indiana pacers. Have there's
two caveats to all, that and one is that The
pacers collectively have shot lights out from three point, range
and we Know oka see is good at defending the.
Three can they defend the three as well as they
have against a team that has as many guys who

(42:40):
can shoot the three as well As indiana, Can and
as we, know the three point shot can have a
huge influence on, games And indiana defends the three fairly,
well so they could have an advantage in that. Department
and then the other Is Rick carlisle and his ability

(43:01):
to work magic with underrated teams and multiple. Pieces AND
i would give him the advantage Against Mark Dagnell dagnel right,
now in spite of whatever difference there may be in the.
Rosters i've Seen Rick carlisle do. It he did it
with The Dallas mavericks against The Miami. HEAT i don't,

(43:22):
AGAIN i. DON'T i would not forecast a win For,
indiana but you, know if it went to six, games
maybe even, SEVEN i would not be.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Shocked you're the, Best. Buke appreciate you joining. Us let's talk,
soon and thanks for a guest On Fox Sports.

Speaker 9 (43:40):
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