June 16, 2025 • 58 mins
On a Monday edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug weighs in on the reason why the WNBA ratings were down more than 50% when Caitlin Clark was injured and what happened in her return on Saturday.
Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the weekend in this installment of "Love AND Hate".
Doug defends NBA official Scott Foster in the wake of a missed call in game four that helped the Thunder win the game. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the NBA Finals, Kevin Durant and all of the other NBA headlines coming off the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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absolutely spectacular day. It's a Monday, and we're excited to
have you. Excited to have you in. Hey, welcome in.
We got an NBA game tonight. Will not be the
last NBA game of the year, Hey, really important. Won't
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be the last NBA game of the year. But it's
getting later early, getting later early, and the Pacers they
had an unbelievable opportunity to put the thunder in a
bad way and could not do it. We'll get you
ready for Game five as the As the show rolls on,
Rick Brooker is going to join us school talk some
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NBA trade stuff. Desmond Bain has been traded, Raphael Dever's
been traded. The US Open had uh it was complete
carnage yesterday but did have I thought a super exciting ending,
and I was, you know, we we're gonna do love
and hate a top of next hour. I hate myself
because I was one hundred percent wrong on one thing
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regarding the US Open. So this should be a really
good show, should be a very interesting show. Before we
get to tonight's NBA, let's talk about yesterday's WNB or
or Saturday's WNBA. So Caitlin Clark had well, look, she
had herself a good game, but more than anything, had
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just this thirty eight seconds of pure basketball ecstasy right
where she's coming down hitting logo three after logo three,
and and you know, most of the sports world has
been put on notice because of it, and it sparked
a good conversation because now we have tangible proof of
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what the American sports viewer thinks of the WNBA without
Caitlin Clark. Keep in mind that in her first game
back from injury, she has thirty two points, nine assists,
eight rebounds, She's seven of fourteen from three point range,
and yeah, she did have seven turnovers.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
She was not perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
She was a plus five. Her team won by was
it fourteen points? I think fourteen points? But it sparked
a bigger conversation because the ratings were less than half
of what they are with her once she was out.
Here's Caitlin Clark talking about that thirty eight seconds where
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she that she had late in the first quarter that
broke the internet.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I took one in transition. That's kind of like where
I like to get to early, and so it's good
to see the ball go through the hoop. And then
I came down and shot another one. Then I came
down and shot another one and saw three in a
row go in. So that gives you a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Here's her head coach four point guardner and writes Stephanie
White talking about having Clark back.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, don't we always expect that kind of game from Caitlin.
I knew her adrenaline was going to be high to start.
I mean, she's been itching to get back out there.
She carried us in the first half, and then everybody
else carried us in the second half, and I thought
her decision making was great, outstanding, especially that last four
minute stretch or whatever it was that she was on
the floor. Did a really good job of getting everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, that is what she does. That is what she does. Okay,
So there's a woman named Rachel Demita. Rachel, I believe
she's a former basketball player. She's like an influencer. She
played at Old Dominion. Didn't play with Old Minion. The
band I like, played at Old Dominion, which is a school.
I think they're in the Colonial. I don't know, anyway.
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Her husband is Andre Robertson, who's formerly played for the Thunder,
had a bad knee injury, then played overseas. So she's influencer.
She had a podcast. She has a podcast, and I
think she labels herself as a WNBA reporter. I think
with CBS Sports. I'm not sure. Anyway, here's Rachel Demita
trying to explain from her perspective while there were drops
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while Kaitlin Clark was out.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I hope you guys don't mind. But the news was
just announced that WNBA TV ratings are down more than
fifty percent since Kaitlin Clark's injury, and it was also
reported that the Indiana Fever television viewership is also down
over fifty three percent. A lot of people stopped watching
because they are boycotting the WNBA. They don't want to
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give viewership to any other teams or any other players,
whether they like other players on the team or not,
because of how the media and the league itself has
hand old Caitlin Clark and how they have treated her fans.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, that's kind of a new one to me.
I had anybody heard about that previously. I mean, usually
when you do a boycott and it picks up steam
and it affects ratings this greatly, one would I just
one would think one would think that that boycott would
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be one that we knew about or heard about. Right,
That's that's what That's what people, anybody I think reasonably
would think. But Rachel to me to acting like, well,
that's the reason the ratings are down. No, we like
watching her play, period. We don't like or relate to,
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or have a desire to watch most anybody else play.
The ratings that are left, that's your classic WNBA core
base that has been there probably for twenty five years
and has grown in incremental pieces over time. But the
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fifty percent that you lost, that's the Caitlin Clark effect.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Period.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Stop and until you just go okay, start there, until
you start at that very point where you realize, Okay,
fifty percent of the people are only watching to see
basically what she did Saturday, then you can properly market
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what you have as a sports league. And you know
it's it's fascinating. I'm a basketball guy. I played high
school basketball, I played college basketball, I played professional basketball.
I've covered it, I now coach it. It's very much
part of who I am as a person. Hey, my
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dad was high school coach, became college coach, became AU coach,
travel ball coach, and mentored so many And I would
just tell you that, like when you grew up in
a basketball family, the WNBA has struggled for a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I don't know how many times you have to
say this.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
People only care about Caitlin and the thing that I
find to be when I watch the game, when I
watch how she walks, how she carries herself was this
year is what.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We hoped she would be last year.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And I would also tell you that I think the
best thing that happened to her is one not getting
selected to the Olympic team last year and probably getting
injured this year because what she has to deal with,
and when I say deal with, maybe that's not the
right term, what she endures on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't care about the constant scrutiny. It's just a
lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And she went from playing college ball to playing the
WNBA and probably needed a break and need to recalibrate
her game. And now that she's recalibated her game and
it fits a little bit more of the WNBA model.
Last year she was square peg, round hole. This year
it's round, round peg, round hole, and she's different, She's dominant.
She's taken another step. The most improving you make in
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college is freshman is sophomore year off season. The most
improving you make as a professionalist between your first and
your second.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Year, because you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You don't know how to train, you don't know how
you travel, you don't know how you eat, You don't
know how your team it's gonna treat you, how the
refts are gonna treat you, how the opponent's gonna treat you.
And then in year two, you know all these things,
they become easier and then you become the better because
of it. I mean this when I say this, Like
Caitlin Clark was one of those she had other worldly
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talent and she had what the kids call aura last year,
and there was some substance, but it was a lot
of she's going to be great. She's not great yet,
but she's going to be great now. She's great now,
she's great shooting percentages, confidence, knowledge of where to get
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in the court, how to avoid get herself out of trouble,
not get herself in a foul trouble, how to communicate
with teammates, and honestly for the fever, what coach to
put around her, with players to put around her. It's
all going to be better in year two because you're one.
You just don't know what you don't know? You know,
all right, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
No, that's okay.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
I just wanted to just add something in them because
I'm curious on your thoughts about this. I think it
was the most important WNBA game she's played in her career.
And the reason I say that is a lot of
what you said is this leap from year one to
leap to year two in what she's done in the
You now know what you didn't know previously, and it
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was one of the questions that I had about the
Kate and Clark phenomenon on.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Would this.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Rise continue, would would the league be able to catch
up at all? And obviously they haven't, but to be
able to come in make a viral moment in a
ninety second span upon her return against the defending WNBA champions,
who were unbeaten to that point. Like, there will be
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games later on in her career that she plays and
playoff games that will be more important, But I think
to this point this was the most important game that
she played in her career because of everything you kind
of laid out in the first eleven minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Sure, sure, I'm okay with that most important in WNBA career.
Like it sounds a little strong when it comes out
of your mouth, and then you go back and you
track it and you're like, I'm up, I'll buy that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'll buy that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I mean, I think there was a little bit when
she came when they came off the Olympic break too.
I thought that was But I don't know if there
was one individual game that was as big as this, right,
and then again, like if you're a if you're a hater,
a naysayer, and she doesn't play well or she doesn't
play after going to several of the Pacers' finals games,
you know, like, oh, well she's good enough to go
to the but she's not good at to play.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So yeah, I think when I initially heard you say that,
it sounded like hyperbole, and then when you supported it,
I started to think about it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't think you're wrong, and.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
There will be bigger games. But yeah, right, you're.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Just talking to this point up up until this point, Sammy,
what'd you think. I know you're you're a kind of
resident Caitlin Clark beat reporter.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Well, yeah, I mean this. There will be bigger games,
but this one was huge because remember they lost the
Liberty at home by two, and then then she had
to exit for several games because of her injury. So
she comes back the Liberty are still undefeated and then
they end up winning by fourteen, and she just puts
on this amazing first half show. It was coming back
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from injury. It's spot as good of a game to
play that you could hope for.
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need to know about the Kidd and Clark effect, right that,
this is it. This is it, kind of in a nutshell,
(12:31):
Jay Stu, how old are you? You're fifty two now,
fifty two? Fifty fifty two?
Speaker 9 (12:38):
Right, I'm fifty two years old, fifty two year old
white male.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Fifty two year old white mail. It's a Saturday afternoon
in the summer in southern California. How is the weather Saturday?
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Oh, it was a little too hot for me up
in Santa Corita, But it was one of those typical
southern California June sunny days.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Just a perfect day, Chamber of commerce day as they
call it in someplace.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Lots of options outside. What were you doing in my
air conditioning living room on my couch watching every second
of the Caitlin Clark game. God blessed Sam for caring
if the fever won or not. I never care about that.
There was thirty eight seconds of her making those threes
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where I literally stood up and fist pumped. A grown
man fist pumping on my couch on a sunny Saturday.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
That is why I.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
Tune in to Kitlyn Clark and I think of what
And it didn't take long until you started to see
it on social media. Everyone started reposting this is this
is the unicorn, this is what we tune in for.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
It really was fun.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I couldn't send any better.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right, the fact that on a Saturday afternoon, when you
have baseball options, outdoor options, Lake Beach Hike.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
We missed the Oakmont as well. What a third round?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was us open take taking place, Just pure carnage.
There all these other things going on. He's watching the
WNBA game two teams that I mean, couldn't pick everybody
else on the team out of a lineup, right If
they were sitting next to him on his couch and
they said their WNBA players, you'd be like, Okay, that's
the power of what she's doing.
Speaker 10 (14:20):
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on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
What about You Do Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Fox Sports Radio got outstanding second hour of the show
for you got a little love and hate. Uh, I'm
gonna have to eat my words, got the press. We'll
make our predictions on tonight's Game five of the NBA Finals.
(14:49):
Maybe we'll look back a little bit at the weekend. Also,
you got Dodgers Padres tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Ooh oh oh.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We do this every Monday. It's just a great way
for us to kind of sometimes humble brag about things
we did, sometimes get off our chest, things that ticked
us off, and talk about all the different sporting events that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Are going on.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Remember over the weekend, if you're if you're in our
chair or chairs, right, it's like Chase Steu told me,
it's like there's just a I don't I'm not going
to quote you verbatim, but it's like cornucopia of topics
that you could get to.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
There's there's the Raphael Dever's trade, there's the uh, there's
the you know trade between Memphis and Orlando in the NBA.
And then in terms of game action, if you're into
Big Three, shocker here Dwight Howard and Lan Stevenson got
into it. I know, I know you're so surprised or
you actually don't care. You have NBA stuff, yes, some
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NFL stuff, and of course you have ANYHL we haven't
talked about yet. So there's a myriad of potential topics
and the best way to encapsulate all because we all
come out from different perspectives, right, Dan works on the weekend.
Sam works on the weekend some but also stalks Kaitlin
Clark a little bit. And you know, as we've been told,
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Jay stew in his palatial state out and Santa Clarita
goes on these epic hikes but canceled the hike on
Saturday so we could watch Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
What do we do this weekend? What are we into?
What are we not into? Let's get to it. Love
and hate?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
God? I love you? And what did you hate? These
Claire hays Hey, it's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Tradio.
What we love? What do we hate?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I've said this a million times and I'll say it
one more. I love road wins. We've had now in
the NBA Finals wins. And there is nothing more rewarding,
nothing more thrilling, nothing more memorable at least the basketball player,
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now basketball coach and me than winning on the road.
It literally feels like it's you against the world and
in case in point. With the Pacers, everyone's wearing yellow
except for you have like a little handful, a little
pocket of fans usually there you know, wives and girlfriends
and some executives. Outside of that, literally everybody in the
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building wants to see you lose, wants to see you fail.
So the silence of those final moments when you're gonna
win and a cord to the people are leaving early
and whatever and they stop talking. It's like the greatest
Oklahoma city winning on the road, coming from behind the
way that the Pacers had come from behind against so
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many previous teams, including the Thunder in Game one, was remarkable.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I'm not I like the Thunder.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I really really like the Thunder and how they do things,
but I'm not like a Thunder guy. I'm not in
the bag for the Thunder. Still, it made me want
to be in that locker. It made me want to say, like,
how cool is this a road win in the NBA
Finals against a raucous atmosphere. Pat McAfee, Kerse Sinatya.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It was.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It was great road win. I'm all for Thunder road
win to right right right side the series even better.
That's what I left from the Weekend Dan Byer, would
you love for the weekend, Doug?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Just out of curiosity, did you try to go to
Game five tonight?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah, Okay, I figured this is you know, right in
that that wheelhouse, like it's a must game. Everybody wants
to get a ticket, trying to get a ticket. And
but I thought myself also, Doug, I guess in a way,
I love to be proven wrong. I don't know if
this is what you're getting at, but I loved everything
about the Open, even if I said on Friday that
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it was more likely that JJ spawn would finish out
of the top ten then actually win the tournament, and
he actually won the tournament.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Listen, you're not as bad as me. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I did a rant on the podcast only part of
this show, which you can download subscribe rate to listen to,
where I said that the guy who leads the relative
no name or no name that leads a major at
the end of the first day is like the guy
you see in the first scene in a horror movie.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
He never makes it to the end of the movie. Right, yeah,
I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Well, JJ smawn during that rain delay even changed shirts
which I thought was great. And if you'll notice in
the highlights, he made this mention last night in speaking
that they had the rain delay at Oakmont. But you'll
notice that his back nine highlights are in a different
shirt than when he shot forty on the front nine,
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and that ended up changing everything. Said that the rain
delay really helped him. It had everything that I wanted
a US Open to be, not only these pats or yesterday,
but those past four days prior to that.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And even when the rain came in.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
And really softened the course, it just made it difficult
in other ways, which was awesome to see. And now
you're used to lightning quick greens here and there. Now
you've got wet, rough standing water in some places, which
I know Sam Burns isn't happy about, but it made
it a test. It was awesome to watch over the
four days and to see the guys who made the
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shots at the end be rewarded, Robert McIntyre and JJ
Spawn being the two foremost likely. It was awesome to watch.
So a great US Open in the books at Oakmond.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Hey, can I offer you a hypothesis?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, restrict your plate racing in NASCAR? Now, Yes, Look
to the to the fan, they talked about restrictor plate racing.
The design was to slow them down, to make the
cars so that the downforce was greater, so you had
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less cars going up in the air crashing and the
opportunity to anybody dying.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right, that was the idea.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But restrictor plate racing really, what it does is it
clumps all the cars together artificially creating these unbelievable finishes
because so many are within arms distance of each other.
To have it make a move at the end of
winter race, is that fair?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, okay, I feel like that's the idea of the
US Open, like where the initial thing a lot like
the downforce is the reason and slowing them down in
safety is the thing with Nascar, I think what the
what the USGA says is, Hey, we want the best,
the hardest test of golf. We want to make this
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the hardest test of golf. Like, okay, I mean you
could have dudes, you know, I mean you could have
booby traps and people falling into pits, and that could
be harder. But the point is that I think that
because it's so difficult and because par is plenty good.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Enough, it keeps them all.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's why that leaderboard yesterday for the last two hours
was like a turnstyle. You're like, wait, who's in first
now or whatever, and I don't. I kind of think
it's by design. It keeps them all kind of clumped
together and gives you a much more likely to be
close finish than if you just or naturally said, hey,
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go play like the PGA, go play at the British Open.
I don't know what the reality is and how close
all these finishes are, but that was my thought when
I was watching it.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
I think that there's truth to that much bigger topic
and probably for another time, but it's also sometimes why
you will get a random US Open winner. Now it's
gonna be up to JJ Spahn to find out if
he is the random winner or if there is more
to come because the season's been great lost to the
playoff at the Players another huge event, well I'm not
a major, probably the biggest event that is in a
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major on tour. So now it's up to him to
try to avoid that trap of just being a one
hit wonder.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yep, yep, okay, Jase, two, what's you left in the weekend?
Speaker 9 (23:17):
Let's see, I'm gonna save Caitlin Clark in the fever
for the gentleman standing to my left, because I want
to talk about my Dodgers on Saturday night. Saturday Night
saw Clayton Kershaw pick up the win, had a very
good game. Clayton Kershaw, our hero wins the game. Shohey
Otawani hit two home runs to beat the rivals, and
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they are arrivals. As much as Daniel Jeremiah wants to
not acknowledge this, Dodgers Giants goes back one hundred and
some odd years and we beat them on Saturday night.
That's what I loved about the weekend. But then it
got better when Bob Nightingale, who and I'm talking to
people that follow Dodger new here. We all know that
Bob Nightingale almost never gets news correct about the Dodgers.
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It's almost laughable. So on Sunday Notes MLB Notes about
the Dodgers, Bob Nightingale says the Dodgers don't plan on
having show Otani make his twenty five pitching debut until
after the All Star break, regardless of how well he's progressing.
News late last night, shoe heo Tani will be starting tonight,
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So you nailed it again, Bob Nightingale. Thank you. And
by the way, just a quick note, Will Smith should
get more votes than he's going to get for the
MVP and National League and it has to do a
show Helo Tani, show, Halo Tani. He is a guy
that hogs the DH spot. There is no way around that.
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He has to be the DH every night, so we
can't give Will Smith any breaks. The cool thing about
the DH of the National League now is that the
catchers could give it breaks, and good hitting catchers col DH.
Will Smith is behind the plate four out of five
nights a week, and he's one of our most productive hitters.
And Shohey being able to pitch and maybe place some
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outfield now might give Will Smith a break behind the plate.
So all good news in Dodger Land.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Uh okay, I was him, What do you got.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Well, Jason, I don't think you should make assumptions. You
shouldn't make assumptions about me about me because my love
of the weekend is Angel Reese recording her first triple double.
Yeah dude up phrase Reese triple double, eleven points, eleven assists,
personal record and thirteen me bounds and guys, she's the
second youngest player of all time, second youngest player of
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all time recorded triple double.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Only to some other person, Why do you love it?
You said you love it? Why do you love it?
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I was just trying to avoid the lowest hanging fruit
out there. Kind a guy put you, guys on a
little bit, so you don't love it. It's a different kind
of It's just a goof it's a goof love. I'm
trying to I'm trying to avoid talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
You just.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Didn't you like, like like Sam, you just.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Assumed I'd take that as my love and you and
Jason you say.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It for me, Sam, let me speak for Jason and
for Dan. Okay, And if you guys disagree with me,
that's fine. The the issue is sometimes you throw things
in or you do the ands when it's not necessarily
the time and the place. This is the time and
the place where you can actually say, hey, I loved
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Caitlin Clark's first ever triple double and here's why, and
expound upon that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
We're actually offering that up.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
You mean, Angel Reese, Yeah, no, just trying to goof around.
This is a joke, Yes, of course, Kaitlyn Clark was awesome.
It's everything we hope for. We covered that thoroughly an
hour one. Just give me a little little, shy little
level of flowers to Hazel Reese.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Thirteen me bounds eleven as sists eleven points.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know she has as as I heard Dan say,
she has trademarked the me bounds thing. What's interesting is
they are actually me bounds because they're correcting her own shot. Missus,
thus a me bound. Let's get to what we hated
from the weekend. Change that music. Our resident hater is
none other than Dan Oh. Then, sorry, Chason Stewart, Chase,
do what again.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
I'm not going to change local for this. I'm not
going to change locyle. Let's stay at Dodger Stadium. Something
very disturbing happened yesterday. I don't know if either any
of you are familiar with the musical artist Nesa. I
was not before yesterday, and I regret that I am
aware of her today. Uh Nesa sparked quite the controversy locally.
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Yesterday I'll set this up. Nesa was asked to sing
the national anthem by the Dodgers. We all know what
that goes. Into that, right, You're going to be able
to sing the national anthem at Dodger Stadium for historical
Francis franchise, in front of potential agents, people that could
could discover you as talent. Singing the national anthem at
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Dodger Stadium is different than singing the national anthem in Milwaukee,
and and that's I'm not trying to throw any stones
at Milwaukee Nesa. I guess it got back to the
Dodgers that Nesa planned to sing the national anthem in
Spanish to support the migrants uh in the wake of
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the protests from last week. Nesa was approached by a
Dodger representative before the game and it went like this.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
So that was a Dodger representative telling Neza that you're
gonna go ahead and sing the song in English because
everybody sings it in English, because nobody I've ever known
or heard of has ever heard it in Spanish, because
when you go to an American sports game, you hear
the national anthem in English. So we're gonna go ahead
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and do that, okay. Neza agrees to do it, and
then proceeds to go on the field and sing the
national anthem in Spanish, and then she decided to go
on social media after she did that.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
All right, bear with me because I'm still I'm very
shooking out and emotional. Names Anyways, I just got home
from singing the national anthem in Spanish at the Dodgers game,
and it is the official Star Spangle banner in Spanish.
You can google it, so I'll just read it you
really quick. But it was officially commissioned in nineteen forty
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five by the US State Department as a part of
President Franklin Roosevelt's Good Neighbor policy to foster a a
relationship with Latin America. Because of this, I didn't think
I would be met with any sort of like no,
especially because we're in LA and with everything happening, and
I've sang the national anthem many times in my life,
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but there was today, out of all days, I could not.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
Could not believe when she walked in and told me no.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
But I just felt like I needed to do it.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
Okay, So if you're tracking this, Nela was told to
wellhead and sing it in English. She went on the
field sing it in Spanish, and then on her social media.
She made the Dodgers look like jerks by showing the
video of the representative telling her not to do it,
and by saying that the Dodgers told her no. She
couldn't believe they were told no. This goes back to
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last week and that the Dodgers have not said anything
publicly about the protests. This is a very polarizing political
topic that the Dodgers want nothing to do with, and
Nesa just rope them into having to answer to this.
I think that was a crappy thing to do. I
think that she exposed herself for being a narcissist gen zer,
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and now the Dodgers have to respond to something that
they've been trying to stay clear of. In the wake
of the George Floyd riots in twenty twenty, there were
corporations and teams taking a political stance. I think Atlanta
was taking the All Star Game was taken away from them.
It was shocking that so many people were taking what
they thought was the politically correct stance at the time.
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Corporations and teams are not doing that anymore. There's no
reason for the Dodgers to take a stant here. They
don't want to alienate half of their fan base, and
I think that was I just hated what she did there.
She made it about her, and now she's drawn a
corporation into something that they don't belong in.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I think part of the problem Chase do, if we're
being completely honest, is I know you'd love I don't
think what you're saying is wrong. I do think that
there's a search for being being How can I be
a victim?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Right? Victimhood?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But but I I also think, and very strongly, I
don't think a younger generation truly understands what is a
right and what is a privilege.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right, Like, you have.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
The right to speak your mind, but when you're singing
the national anthem, that is a privilege offered to you
by the LA Dodgers. And like it's got to be
really hard for the Dodgers because what percentage of the
fan base do you think is Hispanic.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Considerate?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Right?
Speaker 12 (32:51):
So it's a but again, you just can't if it's
it's paralyzing for the Dodgers, like we we can't take
a side in this thing, and then you represent us
by singing the national anthem.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
This is a classic gen Z moment where she made
herself into a victim when she she received a privilege
of singing the national anthem and she chose to make
a political stunt of it and make herself into a victim.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So yeah, I'm with you on most parts.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
She probably did score a lot of new fans, so
I would imagine, I mean, she took an opportunity. There's
an opportunity there to protest, and she did.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
They told me I can't come back, and they're like,
we never said that.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
And that's I think that's she made this decision herself.
I think that's that's good from the Dodgers to say that, say,
we never said that. We just wish you hadn't done that.
But like to like ban her would just make things
even worse.
Speaker 13 (33:46):
I think.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
So she took an opportunity. Uh, you know, tempers are
flaring right now around here. Things are hot, heads are hot,
understand me.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
So Dan Byer, what do you got, boy?
Speaker 7 (33:59):
My hate's really is going to bail in comparison to
the last five minutes of this, uh of this program,
because I just really got annoyed with Adam Schefter tweeting
about the US Open and it's it's nothing, it's nothing
personal about Schefter. It's personal about these insiders who have
millions upon millions of followers on their Twitter handle for
(34:21):
a specific reason, and it's not because we find them entertaining.
It's because they provide news that we want to know.
And it's it's the same for Adam Schefter as it
is for Ian Rappoboard, as it is for shams and
just these one off like they're just they're just sent
for like engagement, just to rack up numbers because they
(34:45):
can by tweeting like JJ Spawn's winning putt and like
what a putt? And I just feel that you give
up your Twitter rights to tweet anything but NFL information
when you have that many And it is just this
jump on a bandwagon, and it's done in tennis, it's
done in horse racing. It's these moments that they then
(35:10):
try to bandwagon and piggyback off of just for their
own good. And it's it's not meant to be personal,
and I think I probably went really personal with some insiders,
but it just got annoying that when JJ spawn wins,
I get an alert on my phone and it's Adam
Schefter tweeting what a pot I And he's not the
only one, but yesterday.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I'm not an insider, and I you know, I think
I twitted what a finish or something that was.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, but I'm not. I don't have alerts on for you,
and people want to know your sports opinions. They don't't
care about anything Adam Schefter has to say unless it's
about the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
That is it.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
That is the reason why he's got ten million followers,
not because Adam Schefter's funny or Adam Schefter has great
opinions on the NBA. That's where his audience is. And
sure there's a huge amount of crossover with his audience
being sports fans, but I just it, I don't know.
It's I think it's the Johnny cum Lately sort of thing.
It's the you know, tweet about you know what, tweet
(36:09):
about the Travelers Championship on Saturday, and then I can
maybe pass your US Open coming up this weekend. Tell
me something that goes on Saturday, and then I'll start
to maybe follow you and take it as more legitimate.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
So Dan, in other words, you're saying, stay in your
lane a little bit.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Yes, yeah, yes, because that lane is built for him
only for the NFL.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
By the way.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
There's a no hitter going on in the College World
Series gage Wood, what a name? No hitter through eight
lost a perfect game by beating a Murray State Racer
in the bottom of the eighth inning.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
But no hitter going on in Omaha. But my hate
was the schefter.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Tweets okay uh to jay Stu do we get I mean, Sam,
do we get your hate?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Not yet?
Speaker 8 (36:53):
I'll make it quick here. You know, Listen, most people
don't like Mondays. They loathe Mondays. I'm feeling like gar
Field today. I hate Mondays early, hate this Monday. I
might live on the noisiest could de sack that's ever existed.
Dan Dan is also a Cul de Sac resider, but
mine's like mostly apartment buildings, and they've been like renovating
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this one apartment building across the cul de Sac for
what's probably going on a year now. There's nothing worse
than just getting really low quality sleep. Maybe I need
to sleep number bed Doug, but getting low quality sleep.
And then at like six fifteen in the morning, you
start hearing construction starting and you're just waking up and
you're like dah, and then you know it's super hot
(37:35):
out already it's gonna be hot today and it was
hot walking in.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So I'm just over this Monday. I'm over it. I'm
over it. Doug, I'm Garfield in the case of the Mondays, Okay, Grumpy.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I have I have just I have just one and
I'm gonna i I'm gonna borrow it from jay Stuh. Okay,
because Jay Stu's like, have you seen this Rop Devers story?
And like fill me in? So he's gonna show me in.
So I'm like, all right, So I printed out a
couple stories to start reading it. So let's get this straight.
(38:07):
Raphael Devers who is with the Red Sox, right, huge deal,
and he gets traded over the weekend to the San
Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
So Devers only wanted a.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
DH, right, That's all he want to do is DH
and because of injury, they asked him play first base.
He's like nah nah. He gets traded to the San
Francisco Giants and when asked about what position he'll play,
his response was wherever I'm needed, as long as we
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want to win.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I just want to win, right. So you're with the
Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Great organization page it offered, I mean the contract's over
three hundred million dollars for over a decade, and when
asked to switch positions, the answer was no to another franchise,
And all of a sudden, now you're open to playing
wherever because you just want to win. Did the Red
Sox do you so wrong when they offered you that
gigantic contract? And I love this analogy. It's the you know,
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anyone who's ever been in a relationship, and there's just
things that you just like, I don't do that in
this relationship, like they don't do it, and then all
of a sudden they're in a different relationship. For example,
you could have a woman who's like, I don't drink coffee.
I hate coffee. I don't like the smell. It makes
a mess, it's everywhere. I just got into it, right,
(39:35):
And then you know you're out and about. You got
your new girl. She's got her new guy, and you
see him out and they're at a coffee shop and
what is she ordering but coffee?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Why? Wow? You know he's into it. So I kind
of got into it. Same thing with rock.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Field Devers, right, like, you won't play first base for
the Red Sox, but you'll play anywhere for the San
Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So thank you Jay stew for telling them about that story.
And I can't stand that mentality of rock Field Evers
and that is love it hate.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
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Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
So the Pacers were up big and Oklahoma City comes
back and wins the game. Late in the game, there's
several calls at first half. I thought some calls went
against the Indiana Pacers despite the fact they were at home.
Late in the game, Shake Gildess Alexander makes it beautiful
fade away in the left baseline and if you watch
the replay right, looks like he pushed off, looks like
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he traveled. There was no call. Of course, Scott Foster's
on the game. Everybody calls Scott Foster the extender, extender,
and he's one of the few NBA officials who everybody
knows his name. He's got a lot of heat, especially
on social media, because Oklahoma City won because they were
a couple of missed calls Here's he's HER's head coach
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Rick Carlisle on Scott Foster, I think.
Speaker 14 (41:11):
It's awful what some of the things I've seen about
about the officiating and Scott Foster in particular. I know
Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official. He's
done a great job in his playoffs. We've had him
a lot of times. And the ridiculous scrutiny that's being
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thrown out there is terrible and unfair and unjust and stupid.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Agree, I agree, and and I just I'm not going
to make it a habit of calling out people in
the media who I'm friends with or friendly with, but
I think those are the people that it looks the
worst for.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
It just does you know, It's like.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
In order for that level of conspiracy to take place,
too many people would have to know, and all it
takes is one person, one person to know what they're
not supposed to know, and the entire league is cooked.
So no, there is no grand conspiracy. There is no
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way of seting. You know's not some way which Adam
Silver guarantees that it will go a certain number of games.
That simply is not true. And anyone who says otherwise
is just making up things because it's really easy to
make up things in the media and in social media
these days, way easier. It's harder to hide, easier to
(42:43):
make things up. So it doesn't mean that he's a
perfect official. It doesn't mean it was a perfectly officiated game.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
By the way, Ben Mathen, who had an unbelievable game
in Game three, he missed too gigant take free throws.
I think he missed three or four down the stretch.
I know he missed two gigantic free throws under two
minutes to go. So what are we actually doing here?
We're acting like Scott Foster is the reason that that
Oklahoma City won the game. Pacers misshots, missed free throws
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and couldn't and when they had a lead, they couldn't
keep their foot on the throat of the Oklahoma City thunder.
That's the story. And this is somebody who has no
I don't even have to support, have no dog in
the fight. Watch basketball, no basketball. Didn't like a couple
of no calls. But I'm not gonna sit there and
go they were cheating calls. That's bull for people who
say it, especially people who work in the media. But
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this is also just another reason why you can't pay
attention to social media because people just don't know what
They just don't know. Rick Berker joined us ask his
opinion around the corner. First, Uh, let's get my man
Dan Byron here, get a quick update.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
D anybody got Doug.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
In addition to tonight's Game five, Sham's just reported that
apparently ABC has listened they will have starting lineups as
part of the broadcast tonight. However, in the tweet to announce.
Speaker 15 (44:10):
It, it was specifically stated that it's the first time since
twenty thirteen in the NBA Finals that the starting lineups
will be a part of the pregame broadcast for tonight's
Game five tip off tonight eight thirty Eastern Time from
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
Following a report over the weekend, Yes.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yes, classic like social media where you get somebody who
hasn't paid attention. I love that, Adam Silver said, like
they were people were talking about like, hey, whatever happened
to those Larry O'Brien, I mean the the what's the
trophies Lario Branhross, Yeah, the Larry O'Brien trophies, Like, yeah,
we haven't had those in like a decade because the stickers.
People slip on the stickers.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
I hated the mid court sticker, like I could not
stand it, and they only did it for a couple
of finals. It was just more of not having any
signis whatsoever on the court, like even you know, near
the mid court stripe or anything, but anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Matter, I mean, look, and so they super imposed and
people freaking out about being superimposed.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
It's like, yeah, hey, I'll just I just go ahead.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I'll just say this. You have three different courts, four
different courts during the regular season. Why can't you make
a specific finals court?
Speaker 6 (45:18):
Right you?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
You don't need to make a finals court. They come
in segments. All you got to do is take out
exactly paint that segment. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's
Fox Sports Radio. It's Monday. Uh, it's that Tonight is
going to be Game five of the NBA Finals. Who
better to catch up with than Rick Buker from Fox
Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com covering all things NBA. Buke,
(45:42):
there's there's you know, social media works and really all
forms of media.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
You know, when you.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Have a Scott Foster of fishy in the game and
what some feel like or questionable calls at the end
of a game. You get all kinds of conspiracy theories.
What's your take on the game four?
Speaker 13 (46:02):
I thought there were mistakes made by Indiana in the
final two minutes and forty one seconds. I'm certainly not
going to put what transpired there on Scott Foster. I
thought that the Pacers did get a tough whistle in
the first half, and Rick Carlisle apparently feeling like comfortable
(46:23):
with the score maybe and thinking I may need my
challenges later this is probably going to be a close game.
Opted not to challenge any of them, you know. The
only one, the only debatable one was in the final
minutes that I could see, was the shot by Shake
Gill does Alexander that gave Oklahoma City its first second
(46:47):
half lead. But based on the liberal interpretation of what
a gather step is and how loose they are in
callings step back, I don't know that he would have
won that. I would have liked to have seen him
challenge that and seen where it would have gone. But
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other than that, my feeling was that the Pacers were
victims of their own hands. They made far too many mistakes.
Their execution wasn't good. They reached in too many situations. Look,
the referees demonstrated, let's let you know how they were
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going to call it early on, and I don't know
that the Pacers adjusted and took that into account in
terms of how they played. So I'm not going to
I'm not going to put this on Scott Foster. I
thought it was a tough whistle early on. I thought
there were a number of plays, number of calls that
in looking at them at replay clearly went the wrong way.
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But that's why you have challenges and and certainly that's
not where the game was decided. I thought the game
was decided in the third quarter. Actually, at the end
of the third quarter, when the Pacers led, had their
biggest lead by ten, had an opportunity should have, I believe,
should have expanded it to sixteen or eighteen at that
point and made it really difficult for Oklahoma City to
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mount a fourth quarter comeback. And Carlisle had a gas
Obie topping and what appeared to be a gas Pascal
Siakam and an ineffective TJ. McConnell, and an ineffective Andrew
Nemmhart and he didn't make any changes. He wrote it
to the end, and they scored one point in the
final two minutes. Instead of it being seventeen, it was seven.
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And you just got the feeling like the thunder felt
like they dodged a bullet.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yep, I would agree.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
You kind of got a step on him when he
got him down, and yeah, I thought he traveled.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I thought he pushed off.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But again, well, we've seen enough of those not be called,
you know, and we've seen enough not be called to
understand probably why they weren't called.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
And look, you miss Ben Mather and missed two free
throws too.
Speaker 13 (49:03):
You can't understand that in miss three or four, Yeah,
in three or four, and even like in the final
with seven seconds left, he could have fouled new Dort
and didn't, and the ball swings to Shay and and
them heart and then it is forced to foul him,
and I look, the game was probably out of reach
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at that point because you had two fouls on on
on inbounds plays where okay, so you got free throws
and possession of the ball, so the game was already decided.
But that was just a microcosm for me of the
little mistakes that Indiana made. I just got the overall sense,
whether it was from Rick Carlisle or the Pacers, that
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they felt like, oh, we've got this, we got them,
and didn't show enough respect for the fact that the
Oklahoma City Thunder were a sixty eight win team and
that if you had an opportunity to put them in
a deep hole, you needed to do it rather than
think that, you know what, we're just gonna as we have,
(50:08):
as we've proven we're the better executing team. In the
final minutes, they decided to play that game. And uh,
and and when you don't fully respect an opponent, you
often you often pay the price. The only other other
call that I looked at that that would suss and
I didn't see it in real time the replay was
the turnover by Halliburton where it looked like Dork gave
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him a shove in order to get the ball. That's
the only other other other whistle that I saw where
I was thinking, Okay, they missed one in the final minutes.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, what
do you make of the Desmond Bine trade?
Speaker 14 (50:50):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (50:50):
That the Orlando Magic are looking at it and saying,
we've we've got a crazy number of first round picks,
and we want to go for it.
Speaker 10 (50:59):
Now.
Speaker 13 (51:00):
We think we're we think we're one player away from
from making this happen, and we need to kind of
clear up our almost an embarrassment of riches. I was
surprised that the number of picks, to be honest with you,
unprotected first round picks. But I think the way they're
looking at it is, you know what we expect to
(51:20):
be really good, and we look at the uh and
and and therefore, you know, how good are those picks
going to be? And uh and the and the Eastern
Conference is wide open, like nobody knows what the Boston
Celtics are going to be. Nobody's buying the Milwaukee Bucks
right now, Philadelphia seventy six ers, I mean, go down
(51:41):
the line. I think they're looking at it and looking
at how how how they've played the last year or
two and are saying, you know, the one thing that
we're missing, the big one thing that we're missing is
is three point shooting. And Desmond Bane can certainly give
us that and gives us a very tough, physical backcourt
(52:03):
between Jal and Suggs and Desmond Vane and so I
think they just decided, you know, we're going to go
for it because at this point we have a bunch
of young players, like we can't all the picks that
we have, We're not going to be able to utilize
them all. So I think they probably gave get almost
(52:25):
practically gave away a couple in this case.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Where are we with Kevin Durant in regards to the
likelihood of him being traded and destinations?
Speaker 13 (52:35):
Well, the interesting you know, the report is that Houston,
San Antonio and Miami Heat are his preferred destinations. As
we know with star players, they generally you're picking from
the teams that they want to go to, and so
you know, who can make the best deal or how
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much that he directs like I want to go to
this particular place. I mean, it really comes down to
if it's those three, both Houston and San Antonio can
make better offers for KD than than than Miami at
this point. That said, at least as starter kits for
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what Phoenix is I assume is looking to rebuild. That said,
I believe that the best place for KD would be
among those three teams. Would be Miami. The absolute best
place would be for me would be Denver, and I'd
be willing to move Jamal Murray in order to make
that happen. And I would sell Phoenix on the idea
(53:41):
that we're going to give you the point guard you
guys have been looking for since Chris Paul left town.
And and the money that that Jamal is making comes
close to what KD is, So it wouldn't be a
one for one, but it could be fairly close. And
I love the idea of of Aaron Gordon, Nikola Jokic
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and k D as being the core of my of
my Denver team. I think if they had that core,
I put them right there as as being capable of
playing with anybody in the West, and I probably favor
them regardless of what Oklahoma City does in the next week.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's the
voice of Rick Buker, New York Knicks head coaching job
still reports that Jason Kidd is the guy. Uh, but
they continue to get turned down, and then of course
the internet has fun with it. You know that the
Bucks offered up Doc Rivers on the Knicks refuse this time.
Like you've heard all of those, what's the reality to
(54:45):
where they are in their head coaching search?
Speaker 13 (54:47):
They I mean, they're they're they're searching for an answer
right now. I do believe that while the Jason Kidd
thing was turned down, I would not be surprised if
we end up revisiting that. It really comes down to,
And I haven't had a chance to talk to Jason
or anybody in his camp yet, but I I could
(55:11):
see where he pushes the needle and tries to make
make that, tries to reopen that from his end, because
it wasn't Jason Kidd rejecting the request, it was the
Dallas Maverick saying we're not going to let you talk
to our guy. And uh, and then it comes down
to are they willing willing to give up a pick
(55:32):
or is Dallas posturing in order if we do give
him up, then you're gonna have to give us a
little bit more than than maybe was originally a thought.
So that's where I would expect I would expect that
to go. But look, Uh, every GM that I've ever
talked to always has a list in his pocket of
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the head coaches that he would hire if he could
his wish list, and it's regardless of whether he has
a coach that he likes at the time or not.
They always have that. And the way the Knicks have
approached this would make you think that they that they
didn't have a wish list like that, because even if
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you look at the guys that they've supposedly requested interviews from,
they're all different. They're all like they're just across the board.
They don't make a whole lot of sense for what
the New York Knicks have and where they are. So
it's hard to predict what they're doing when one you
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don't we've got multiple people in the front office that
put out information, you don't know which one to trust.
And two, the proof is in the way they've approached this,
which is a scattergun approach. It just does not fit
with every other coach search that I've seen. Look, I
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thought from the very beginning, if you're the first place
I would go is Taylor Jenkins. So I think he
got the short stick in Memphis, and I think he
demonstrated that with a scoring point guard, he knows how
to run a team like that, And I know that
he had the respect of his players until the front
office undercut him and brought in some assistant coaches to
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run the kind of offense that the front office thought
that they should run. That's the first place that I
would have gone. And maybe the second would have been
not Chris Finch to the Minnesota Timberwolves for his assistant
coach Michael Nori because Norri. Because we've got a chance
to see him coach that team in the playoffs, and
I think that from what I know about his personality,
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I think he'd be able to handle the New York market.
Those would have been the first two places that I
would have gone. And not an array of coaches who
have current jobs and you have to get permission from
their teams in order to just talk to them.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
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Buke outstanding. Enjoy the game tonight. We will talk soon.
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absolutely spectacular day. It's a Monday, and we're excited to
have you. Excited to have you in. Hey, welcome in.
We got an NBA game tonight. Will not be the
last NBA game of the year, Hey, really important. Won't
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be the last NBA game of the year. But it's
getting later early, getting later early, and the Pacers they
had an unbelievable opportunity to put the thunder in a
bad way and could not do it. We'll get you
ready for Game five as the As the show rolls on,
Rick Brooker is going to join us school talk some
(01:07):
NBA trade stuff. Desmond Bain has been traded, Raphael Dever's
been traded. The US Open had uh it was complete
carnage yesterday but did have I thought a super exciting ending,
and I was, you know, we we're gonna do love
and hate a top of next hour. I hate myself
because I was one hundred percent wrong on one thing
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regarding the US Open. So this should be a really
good show, should be a very interesting show. Before we
get to tonight's NBA, let's talk about yesterday's WNB or
or Saturday's WNBA. So Caitlin Clark had well, look, she
had herself a good game, but more than anything, had
(01:50):
just this thirty eight seconds of pure basketball ecstasy right
where she's coming down hitting logo three after logo three,
and and you know, most of the sports world has
been put on notice because of it, and it sparked
a good conversation because now we have tangible proof of
(02:11):
what the American sports viewer thinks of the WNBA without
Caitlin Clark. Keep in mind that in her first game
back from injury, she has thirty two points, nine assists,
eight rebounds, She's seven of fourteen from three point range,
and yeah, she did have seven turnovers.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
She was not perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
She was a plus five. Her team won by was
it fourteen points? I think fourteen points? But it sparked
a bigger conversation because the ratings were less than half
of what they are with her once she was out.
Here's Caitlin Clark talking about that thirty eight seconds where
(02:52):
she that she had late in the first quarter that
broke the internet.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I took one in transition. That's kind of like where
I like to get to early, and so it's good
to see the ball go through the hoop. And then
I came down and shot another one. Then I came
down and shot another one and saw three in a
row go in. So that gives you a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Here's her head coach four point guardner and writes Stephanie
White talking about having Clark back.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, don't we always expect that kind of game from Caitlin.
I knew her adrenaline was going to be high to start.
I mean, she's been itching to get back out there.
She carried us in the first half, and then everybody
else carried us in the second half, and I thought
her decision making was great, outstanding, especially that last four
minute stretch or whatever it was that she was on
the floor. Did a really good job of getting everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, that is what she does. That is what she does. Okay,
So there's a woman named Rachel Demita. Rachel, I believe
she's a former basketball player. She's like an influencer. She
played at Old Dominion. Didn't play with Old Minion. The
band I like, played at Old Dominion, which is a school.
I think they're in the Colonial. I don't know, anyway.
(04:02):
Her husband is Andre Robertson, who's formerly played for the Thunder,
had a bad knee injury, then played overseas. So she's influencer.
She had a podcast. She has a podcast, and I
think she labels herself as a WNBA reporter. I think
with CBS Sports. I'm not sure. Anyway, here's Rachel Demita
trying to explain from her perspective while there were drops
(04:27):
while Kaitlin Clark was out.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I hope you guys don't mind. But the news was
just announced that WNBA TV ratings are down more than
fifty percent since Kaitlin Clark's injury, and it was also
reported that the Indiana Fever television viewership is also down
over fifty three percent. A lot of people stopped watching
because they are boycotting the WNBA. They don't want to
(04:50):
give viewership to any other teams or any other players,
whether they like other players on the team or not,
because of how the media and the league itself has
hand old Caitlin Clark and how they have treated her fans.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, that's kind of a new one to me.
I had anybody heard about that previously. I mean, usually
when you do a boycott and it picks up steam
and it affects ratings this greatly, one would I just
one would think one would think that that boycott would
(05:28):
be one that we knew about or heard about. Right,
That's that's what That's what people, anybody I think reasonably
would think. But Rachel to me to acting like, well,
that's the reason the ratings are down. No, we like
watching her play, period. We don't like or relate to,
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or have a desire to watch most anybody else play.
The ratings that are left, that's your classic WNBA core
base that has been there probably for twenty five years
and has grown in incremental pieces over time. But the
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fifty percent that you lost, that's the Caitlin Clark effect.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Period.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Stop and until you just go okay, start there, until
you start at that very point where you realize, Okay,
fifty percent of the people are only watching to see
basically what she did Saturday, then you can properly market
(06:38):
what you have as a sports league. And you know
it's it's fascinating. I'm a basketball guy. I played high
school basketball, I played college basketball, I played professional basketball.
I've covered it, I now coach it. It's very much
part of who I am as a person. Hey, my
(06:59):
dad was high school coach, became college coach, became AU coach,
travel ball coach, and mentored so many And I would
just tell you that, like when you grew up in
a basketball family, the WNBA has struggled for a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I don't know how many times you have to
say this.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
People only care about Caitlin and the thing that I
find to be when I watch the game, when I
watch how she walks, how she carries herself was this
year is what.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We hoped she would be last year.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And I would also tell you that I think the
best thing that happened to her is one not getting
selected to the Olympic team last year and probably getting
injured this year because what she has to deal with,
and when I say deal with, maybe that's not the
right term, what she endures on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't care about the constant scrutiny. It's just a
lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And she went from playing college ball to playing the
WNBA and probably needed a break and need to recalibrate
her game. And now that she's recalibated her game and
it fits a little bit more of the WNBA model.
Last year she was square peg, round hole. This year
it's round, round peg, round hole, and she's different, She's dominant.
She's taken another step. The most improving you make in
(08:17):
college is freshman is sophomore year off season. The most
improving you make as a professionalist between your first and
your second.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Year, because you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You don't know how to train, you don't know how
you travel, you don't know how you eat, You don't
know how your team it's gonna treat you, how the
refts are gonna treat you, how the opponent's gonna treat you.
And then in year two, you know all these things,
they become easier and then you become the better because
of it. I mean this when I say this, Like
Caitlin Clark was one of those she had other worldly
(08:49):
talent and she had what the kids call aura last year,
and there was some substance, but it was a lot
of she's going to be great. She's not great yet,
but she's going to be great now. She's great now,
she's great shooting percentages, confidence, knowledge of where to get
(09:12):
in the court, how to avoid get herself out of trouble,
not get herself in a foul trouble, how to communicate
with teammates, and honestly for the fever, what coach to
put around her, with players to put around her. It's
all going to be better in year two because you're one.
You just don't know what you don't know? You know,
all right, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
No, that's okay.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
I just wanted to just add something in them because
I'm curious on your thoughts about this. I think it
was the most important WNBA game she's played in her career.
And the reason I say that is a lot of
what you said is this leap from year one to
leap to year two in what she's done in the
You now know what you didn't know previously, and it
(09:56):
was one of the questions that I had about the
Kate and Clark phenomenon on.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Would this.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Rise continue, would would the league be able to catch
up at all? And obviously they haven't, but to be
able to come in make a viral moment in a
ninety second span upon her return against the defending WNBA champions,
who were unbeaten to that point. Like, there will be
(10:25):
games later on in her career that she plays and
playoff games that will be more important, But I think
to this point this was the most important game that
she played in her career because of everything you kind
of laid out in the first eleven minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Sure, sure, I'm okay with that most important in WNBA career.
Like it sounds a little strong when it comes out
of your mouth, and then you go back and you
track it and you're like, I'm up, I'll buy that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'll buy that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I mean, I think there was a little bit when
she came when they came off the Olympic break too.
I thought that was But I don't know if there
was one individual game that was as big as this, right,
and then again, like if you're a if you're a hater,
a naysayer, and she doesn't play well or she doesn't
play after going to several of the Pacers' finals games,
you know, like, oh, well she's good enough to go
to the but she's not good at to play.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So yeah, I think when I initially heard you say that,
it sounded like hyperbole, and then when you supported it,
I started to think about it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't think you're wrong, and.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
There will be bigger games. But yeah, right, you're.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Just talking to this point up up until this point, Sammy,
what'd you think. I know you're you're a kind of
resident Caitlin Clark beat reporter.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Well, yeah, I mean this. There will be bigger games,
but this one was huge because remember they lost the
Liberty at home by two, and then then she had
to exit for several games because of her injury. So
she comes back the Liberty are still undefeated and then
they end up winning by fourteen, and she just puts
on this amazing first half show. It was coming back
(12:01):
from injury. It's spot as good of a game to
play that you could hope for.
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this is it. This is it, kind of in a nutshell,
(12:31):
Jay Stu, how old are you? You're fifty two now,
fifty two? Fifty fifty two?
Speaker 9 (12:38):
Right, I'm fifty two years old, fifty two year old
white male.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Fifty two year old white mail. It's a Saturday afternoon
in the summer in southern California. How is the weather Saturday?
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Oh, it was a little too hot for me up
in Santa Corita, But it was one of those typical
southern California June sunny days.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Just a perfect day, Chamber of commerce day as they
call it in someplace.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Lots of options outside. What were you doing in my
air conditioning living room on my couch watching every second
of the Caitlin Clark game. God blessed Sam for caring
if the fever won or not. I never care about that.
There was thirty eight seconds of her making those threes
(13:21):
where I literally stood up and fist pumped. A grown
man fist pumping on my couch on a sunny Saturday.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
That is why I.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
Tune in to Kitlyn Clark and I think of what
And it didn't take long until you started to see
it on social media. Everyone started reposting this is this
is the unicorn, this is what we tune in for.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
It really was fun.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I couldn't send any better.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right, the fact that on a Saturday afternoon, when you
have baseball options, outdoor options, Lake Beach Hike.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
We missed the Oakmont as well. What a third round?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was us open take taking place, Just pure carnage.
There all these other things going on. He's watching the
WNBA game two teams that I mean, couldn't pick everybody
else on the team out of a lineup, right If
they were sitting next to him on his couch and
they said their WNBA players, you'd be like, Okay, that's
the power of what she's doing.
Speaker 10 (14:20):
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Speaker 2 (14:27):
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Speaker 1 (14:28):
Fox Sports Radio got outstanding second hour of the show
for you got a little love and hate. Uh, I'm
gonna have to eat my words, got the press. We'll
make our predictions on tonight's Game five of the NBA Finals.
(14:49):
Maybe we'll look back a little bit at the weekend. Also,
you got Dodgers Padres tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Ooh oh oh.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We do this every Monday. It's just a great way
for us to kind of sometimes humble brag about things
we did, sometimes get off our chest, things that ticked
us off, and talk about all the different sporting events that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Are going on.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Remember over the weekend, if you're if you're in our
chair or chairs, right, it's like Chase Steu told me,
it's like there's just a I don't I'm not going
to quote you verbatim, but it's like cornucopia of topics
that you could get to.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
There's there's the Raphael Dever's trade, there's the uh, there's
the you know trade between Memphis and Orlando in the NBA.
And then in terms of game action, if you're into
Big Three, shocker here Dwight Howard and Lan Stevenson got
into it. I know, I know you're so surprised or
you actually don't care. You have NBA stuff, yes, some
(15:58):
NFL stuff, and of course you have ANYHL we haven't
talked about yet. So there's a myriad of potential topics
and the best way to encapsulate all because we all
come out from different perspectives, right, Dan works on the weekend.
Sam works on the weekend some but also stalks Kaitlin
Clark a little bit. And you know, as we've been told,
(16:21):
Jay stew in his palatial state out and Santa Clarita
goes on these epic hikes but canceled the hike on
Saturday so we could watch Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
What do we do this weekend? What are we into?
What are we not into? Let's get to it. Love
and hate?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
God? I love you? And what did you hate? These
Claire hays Hey, it's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Tradio.
What we love? What do we hate?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I've said this a million times and I'll say it
one more. I love road wins. We've had now in
the NBA Finals wins. And there is nothing more rewarding,
nothing more thrilling, nothing more memorable at least the basketball player,
(17:11):
now basketball coach and me than winning on the road.
It literally feels like it's you against the world and
in case in point. With the Pacers, everyone's wearing yellow
except for you have like a little handful, a little
pocket of fans usually there you know, wives and girlfriends
and some executives. Outside of that, literally everybody in the
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building wants to see you lose, wants to see you fail.
So the silence of those final moments when you're gonna
win and a cord to the people are leaving early
and whatever and they stop talking. It's like the greatest
Oklahoma city winning on the road, coming from behind the
way that the Pacers had come from behind against so
(17:55):
many previous teams, including the Thunder in Game one, was remarkable.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I'm not I like the Thunder.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I really really like the Thunder and how they do things,
but I'm not like a Thunder guy. I'm not in
the bag for the Thunder. Still, it made me want
to be in that locker. It made me want to say, like,
how cool is this a road win in the NBA
Finals against a raucous atmosphere. Pat McAfee, Kerse Sinatya.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It was.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It was great road win. I'm all for Thunder road
win to right right right side the series even better.
That's what I left from the Weekend Dan Byer, would
you love for the weekend, Doug?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Just out of curiosity, did you try to go to
Game five tonight?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah, Okay, I figured this is you know, right in
that that wheelhouse, like it's a must game. Everybody wants
to get a ticket, trying to get a ticket. And
but I thought myself also, Doug, I guess in a way,
I love to be proven wrong. I don't know if
this is what you're getting at, but I loved everything
about the Open, even if I said on Friday that
(19:04):
it was more likely that JJ spawn would finish out
of the top ten then actually win the tournament, and
he actually won the tournament.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Listen, you're not as bad as me. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I did a rant on the podcast only part of
this show, which you can download subscribe rate to listen to,
where I said that the guy who leads the relative
no name or no name that leads a major at
the end of the first day is like the guy
you see in the first scene in a horror movie.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
He never makes it to the end of the movie. Right, yeah,
I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Well, JJ smawn during that rain delay even changed shirts
which I thought was great. And if you'll notice in
the highlights, he made this mention last night in speaking
that they had the rain delay at Oakmont. But you'll
notice that his back nine highlights are in a different
shirt than when he shot forty on the front nine,
(19:58):
and that ended up changing everything. Said that the rain
delay really helped him. It had everything that I wanted
a US Open to be, not only these pats or yesterday,
but those past four days prior to that.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And even when the rain came in.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
And really softened the course, it just made it difficult
in other ways, which was awesome to see. And now
you're used to lightning quick greens here and there. Now
you've got wet, rough standing water in some places, which
I know Sam Burns isn't happy about, but it made
it a test. It was awesome to watch over the
four days and to see the guys who made the
(20:36):
shots at the end be rewarded, Robert McIntyre and JJ
Spawn being the two foremost likely. It was awesome to watch.
So a great US Open in the books at Oakmond.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Hey, can I offer you a hypothesis?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, restrict your plate racing in NASCAR? Now, Yes, Look
to the to the fan, they talked about restrictor plate racing.
The design was to slow them down, to make the
cars so that the downforce was greater, so you had
(21:11):
less cars going up in the air crashing and the
opportunity to anybody dying.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right, that was the idea.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But restrictor plate racing really, what it does is it
clumps all the cars together artificially creating these unbelievable finishes
because so many are within arms distance of each other.
To have it make a move at the end of
winter race, is that fair?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, okay, I feel like that's the idea of the
US Open, like where the initial thing a lot like
the downforce is the reason and slowing them down in
safety is the thing with Nascar, I think what the
what the USGA says is, Hey, we want the best,
the hardest test of golf. We want to make this
(21:53):
the hardest test of golf. Like, okay, I mean you
could have dudes, you know, I mean you could have
booby traps and people falling into pits, and that could
be harder. But the point is that I think that
because it's so difficult and because par is plenty good.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Enough, it keeps them all.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's why that leaderboard yesterday for the last two hours
was like a turnstyle. You're like, wait, who's in first
now or whatever, and I don't. I kind of think
it's by design. It keeps them all kind of clumped
together and gives you a much more likely to be
close finish than if you just or naturally said, hey,
(22:34):
go play like the PGA, go play at the British Open.
I don't know what the reality is and how close
all these finishes are, but that was my thought when
I was watching it.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
I think that there's truth to that much bigger topic
and probably for another time, but it's also sometimes why
you will get a random US Open winner. Now it's
gonna be up to JJ Spahn to find out if
he is the random winner or if there is more
to come because the season's been great lost to the
playoff at the Players another huge event, well I'm not
a major, probably the biggest event that is in a
(23:06):
major on tour. So now it's up to him to
try to avoid that trap of just being a one
hit wonder.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yep, yep, okay, Jase, two, what's you left in the weekend?
Speaker 9 (23:17):
Let's see, I'm gonna save Caitlin Clark in the fever
for the gentleman standing to my left, because I want
to talk about my Dodgers on Saturday night. Saturday Night
saw Clayton Kershaw pick up the win, had a very
good game. Clayton Kershaw, our hero wins the game. Shohey
Otawani hit two home runs to beat the rivals, and
(23:42):
they are arrivals. As much as Daniel Jeremiah wants to
not acknowledge this, Dodgers Giants goes back one hundred and
some odd years and we beat them on Saturday night.
That's what I loved about the weekend. But then it
got better when Bob Nightingale, who and I'm talking to
people that follow Dodger new here. We all know that
Bob Nightingale almost never gets news correct about the Dodgers.
(24:05):
It's almost laughable. So on Sunday Notes MLB Notes about
the Dodgers, Bob Nightingale says the Dodgers don't plan on
having show Otani make his twenty five pitching debut until
after the All Star break, regardless of how well he's progressing.
News late last night, shoe heo Tani will be starting tonight,
(24:28):
So you nailed it again, Bob Nightingale. Thank you. And
by the way, just a quick note, Will Smith should
get more votes than he's going to get for the
MVP and National League and it has to do a
show Helo Tani, show, Halo Tani. He is a guy
that hogs the DH spot. There is no way around that.
(24:50):
He has to be the DH every night, so we
can't give Will Smith any breaks. The cool thing about
the DH of the National League now is that the
catchers could give it breaks, and good hitting catchers col DH.
Will Smith is behind the plate four out of five
nights a week, and he's one of our most productive hitters.
And Shohey being able to pitch and maybe place some
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outfield now might give Will Smith a break behind the plate.
So all good news in Dodger Land.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Uh okay, I was him, What do you got.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Well, Jason, I don't think you should make assumptions. You
shouldn't make assumptions about me about me because my love
of the weekend is Angel Reese recording her first triple double.
Yeah dude up phrase Reese triple double, eleven points, eleven assists,
personal record and thirteen me bounds and guys, she's the
second youngest player of all time, second youngest player of
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all time recorded triple double.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Only to some other person, Why do you love it?
You said you love it? Why do you love it?
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I was just trying to avoid the lowest hanging fruit
out there. Kind a guy put you, guys on a
little bit, so you don't love it. It's a different kind
of It's just a goof it's a goof love. I'm
trying to I'm trying to avoid talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
You just.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Didn't you like, like like Sam, you just.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Assumed I'd take that as my love and you and
Jason you say.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It for me, Sam, let me speak for Jason and
for Dan. Okay, And if you guys disagree with me,
that's fine. The the issue is sometimes you throw things
in or you do the ands when it's not necessarily
the time and the place. This is the time and
the place where you can actually say, hey, I loved
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Caitlin Clark's first ever triple double and here's why, and
expound upon that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
We're actually offering that up.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
You mean, Angel Reese, Yeah, no, just trying to goof around.
This is a joke, Yes, of course, Kaitlyn Clark was awesome.
It's everything we hope for. We covered that thoroughly an
hour one. Just give me a little little, shy little
level of flowers to Hazel Reese.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Thirteen me bounds eleven as sists eleven points.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know she has as as I heard Dan say,
she has trademarked the me bounds thing. What's interesting is
they are actually me bounds because they're correcting her own shot. Missus,
thus a me bound. Let's get to what we hated
from the weekend. Change that music. Our resident hater is
none other than Dan Oh. Then, sorry, Chason Stewart, Chase,
do what again.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
I'm not going to change local for this. I'm not
going to change locyle. Let's stay at Dodger Stadium. Something
very disturbing happened yesterday. I don't know if either any
of you are familiar with the musical artist Nesa. I
was not before yesterday, and I regret that I am
aware of her today. Uh Nesa sparked quite the controversy locally.
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Yesterday I'll set this up. Nesa was asked to sing
the national anthem by the Dodgers. We all know what
that goes. Into that, right, You're going to be able
to sing the national anthem at Dodger Stadium for historical
Francis franchise, in front of potential agents, people that could
could discover you as talent. Singing the national anthem at
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Dodger Stadium is different than singing the national anthem in Milwaukee,
and and that's I'm not trying to throw any stones
at Milwaukee Nesa. I guess it got back to the
Dodgers that Nesa planned to sing the national anthem in
Spanish to support the migrants uh in the wake of
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the protests from last week. Nesa was approached by a
Dodger representative before the game and it went like this.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
So that was a Dodger representative telling Neza that you're
gonna go ahead and sing the song in English because
everybody sings it in English, because nobody I've ever known
or heard of has ever heard it in Spanish, because
when you go to an American sports game, you hear
the national anthem in English. So we're gonna go ahead
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and do that, okay. Neza agrees to do it, and
then proceeds to go on the field and sing the
national anthem in Spanish, and then she decided to go
on social media after she did that.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
All right, bear with me because I'm still I'm very
shooking out and emotional. Names Anyways, I just got home
from singing the national anthem in Spanish at the Dodgers game,
and it is the official Star Spangle banner in Spanish.
You can google it, so I'll just read it you
really quick. But it was officially commissioned in nineteen forty
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five by the US State Department as a part of
President Franklin Roosevelt's Good Neighbor policy to foster a a
relationship with Latin America. Because of this, I didn't think
I would be met with any sort of like no,
especially because we're in LA and with everything happening, and
I've sang the national anthem many times in my life,
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but there was today, out of all days, I could not.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
Could not believe when she walked in and told me no.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
But I just felt like I needed to do it.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
Okay, So if you're tracking this, Nela was told to
wellhead and sing it in English. She went on the
field sing it in Spanish, and then on her social media.
She made the Dodgers look like jerks by showing the
video of the representative telling her not to do it,
and by saying that the Dodgers told her no. She
couldn't believe they were told no. This goes back to
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last week and that the Dodgers have not said anything
publicly about the protests. This is a very polarizing political
topic that the Dodgers want nothing to do with, and
Nesa just rope them into having to answer to this.
I think that was a crappy thing to do. I
think that she exposed herself for being a narcissist gen zer,
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and now the Dodgers have to respond to something that
they've been trying to stay clear of. In the wake
of the George Floyd riots in twenty twenty, there were
corporations and teams taking a political stance. I think Atlanta
was taking the All Star Game was taken away from them.
It was shocking that so many people were taking what
they thought was the politically correct stance at the time.
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Corporations and teams are not doing that anymore. There's no
reason for the Dodgers to take a stant here. They
don't want to alienate half of their fan base, and
I think that was I just hated what she did there.
She made it about her, and now she's drawn a
corporation into something that they don't belong in.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I think part of the problem Chase do, if we're
being completely honest, is I know you'd love I don't
think what you're saying is wrong. I do think that
there's a search for being being How can I be
a victim?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Right? Victimhood?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But but I I also think, and very strongly, I
don't think a younger generation truly understands what is a
right and what is a privilege.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right, Like, you have.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
The right to speak your mind, but when you're singing
the national anthem, that is a privilege offered to you
by the LA Dodgers. And like it's got to be
really hard for the Dodgers because what percentage of the
fan base do you think is Hispanic.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Considerate?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Right?
Speaker 12 (32:51):
So it's a but again, you just can't if it's
it's paralyzing for the Dodgers, like we we can't take
a side in this thing, and then you represent us
by singing the national anthem.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
This is a classic gen Z moment where she made
herself into a victim when she she received a privilege
of singing the national anthem and she chose to make
a political stunt of it and make herself into a victim.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So yeah, I'm with you on most parts.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
She probably did score a lot of new fans, so
I would imagine, I mean, she took an opportunity. There's
an opportunity there to protest, and she did.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
They told me I can't come back, and they're like,
we never said that.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
And that's I think that's she made this decision herself.
I think that's that's good from the Dodgers to say that, say,
we never said that. We just wish you hadn't done that.
But like to like ban her would just make things
even worse.
Speaker 13 (33:46):
I think.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
So she took an opportunity. Uh, you know, tempers are
flaring right now around here. Things are hot, heads are hot,
understand me.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
So Dan Byer, what do you got, boy?
Speaker 7 (33:59):
My hate's really is going to bail in comparison to
the last five minutes of this, uh of this program,
because I just really got annoyed with Adam Schefter tweeting
about the US Open and it's it's nothing, it's nothing
personal about Schefter. It's personal about these insiders who have
millions upon millions of followers on their Twitter handle for
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a specific reason, and it's not because we find them entertaining.
It's because they provide news that we want to know.
And it's it's the same for Adam Schefter as it
is for Ian Rappoboard, as it is for shams and
just these one off like they're just they're just sent
for like engagement, just to rack up numbers because they
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can by tweeting like JJ Spawn's winning putt and like
what a putt? And I just feel that you give
up your Twitter rights to tweet anything but NFL information
when you have that many And it is just this
jump on a bandwagon, and it's done in tennis, it's
done in horse racing. It's these moments that they then
(35:10):
try to bandwagon and piggyback off of just for their
own good. And it's it's not meant to be personal,
and I think I probably went really personal with some insiders,
but it just got annoying that when JJ spawn wins,
I get an alert on my phone and it's Adam
Schefter tweeting what a pot I And he's not the
only one, but yesterday.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I'm not an insider, and I you know, I think
I twitted what a finish or something that was.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, but I'm not. I don't have alerts on for you,
and people want to know your sports opinions. They don't't
care about anything Adam Schefter has to say unless it's
about the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
That is it.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
That is the reason why he's got ten million followers,
not because Adam Schefter's funny or Adam Schefter has great
opinions on the NBA. That's where his audience is. And
sure there's a huge amount of crossover with his audience
being sports fans, but I just it, I don't know.
It's I think it's the Johnny cum Lately sort of thing.
It's the you know, tweet about you know what, tweet
(36:09):
about the Travelers Championship on Saturday, and then I can
maybe pass your US Open coming up this weekend. Tell
me something that goes on Saturday, and then I'll start
to maybe follow you and take it as more legitimate.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
So Dan, in other words, you're saying, stay in your
lane a little bit.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Yes, yeah, yes, because that lane is built for him
only for the NFL.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
By the way.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
There's a no hitter going on in the College World
Series gage Wood, what a name? No hitter through eight
lost a perfect game by beating a Murray State Racer
in the bottom of the eighth inning.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
But no hitter going on in Omaha. But my hate
was the schefter.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Tweets okay uh to jay Stu do we get I mean, Sam,
do we get your hate?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Not yet?
Speaker 8 (36:53):
I'll make it quick here. You know, Listen, most people
don't like Mondays. They loathe Mondays. I'm feeling like gar
Field today. I hate Mondays early, hate this Monday. I
might live on the noisiest could de sack that's ever existed.
Dan Dan is also a Cul de Sac resider, but
mine's like mostly apartment buildings, and they've been like renovating
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this one apartment building across the cul de Sac for
what's probably going on a year now. There's nothing worse
than just getting really low quality sleep. Maybe I need
to sleep number bed Doug, but getting low quality sleep.
And then at like six fifteen in the morning, you
start hearing construction starting and you're just waking up and
you're like dah, and then you know it's super hot
(37:35):
out already it's gonna be hot today and it was
hot walking in.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So I'm just over this Monday. I'm over it. I'm
over it. Doug, I'm Garfield in the case of the Mondays, Okay, Grumpy.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I have I have just I have just one and
I'm gonna i I'm gonna borrow it from jay Stuh. Okay,
because Jay Stu's like, have you seen this Rop Devers story?
And like fill me in? So he's gonna show me in.
So I'm like, all right, So I printed out a
couple stories to start reading it. So let's get this straight.
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Raphael Devers who is with the Red Sox, right, huge deal,
and he gets traded over the weekend to the San
Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
So Devers only wanted a.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
DH, right, That's all he want to do is DH
and because of injury, they asked him play first base.
He's like nah nah. He gets traded to the San
Francisco Giants and when asked about what position he'll play,
his response was wherever I'm needed, as long as we
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want to win.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I just want to win, right. So you're with the
Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Great organization page it offered, I mean the contract's over
three hundred million dollars for over a decade, and when
asked to switch positions, the answer was no to another franchise,
And all of a sudden, now you're open to playing
wherever because you just want to win. Did the Red
Sox do you so wrong when they offered you that
gigantic contract? And I love this analogy. It's the you know,
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anyone who's ever been in a relationship, and there's just
things that you just like, I don't do that in
this relationship, like they don't do it, and then all
of a sudden they're in a different relationship. For example,
you could have a woman who's like, I don't drink coffee.
I hate coffee. I don't like the smell. It makes
a mess, it's everywhere. I just got into it, right,
(39:35):
And then you know you're out and about. You got
your new girl. She's got her new guy, and you
see him out and they're at a coffee shop and
what is she ordering but coffee?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Why? Wow? You know he's into it. So I kind
of got into it. Same thing with rock.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Field Devers, right, like, you won't play first base for
the Red Sox, but you'll play anywhere for the San
Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So thank you Jay stew for telling them about that story.
And I can't stand that mentality of rock Field Evers
and that is love it hate.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
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Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
So the Pacers were up big and Oklahoma City comes
back and wins the game. Late in the game, there's
several calls at first half. I thought some calls went
against the Indiana Pacers despite the fact they were at home.
Late in the game, Shake Gildess Alexander makes it beautiful
fade away in the left baseline and if you watch
the replay right, looks like he pushed off, looks like
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he traveled. There was no call. Of course, Scott Foster's
on the game. Everybody calls Scott Foster the extender, extender,
and he's one of the few NBA officials who everybody
knows his name. He's got a lot of heat, especially
on social media, because Oklahoma City won because they were
a couple of missed calls Here's he's HER's head coach
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Rick Carlisle on Scott Foster, I think.
Speaker 14 (41:11):
It's awful what some of the things I've seen about
about the officiating and Scott Foster in particular. I know
Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official. He's
done a great job in his playoffs. We've had him
a lot of times. And the ridiculous scrutiny that's being
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thrown out there is terrible and unfair and unjust and stupid.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Agree, I agree, and and I just I'm not going
to make it a habit of calling out people in
the media who I'm friends with or friendly with, but
I think those are the people that it looks the
worst for.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
It just does you know, It's like.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
In order for that level of conspiracy to take place,
too many people would have to know, and all it
takes is one person, one person to know what they're
not supposed to know, and the entire league is cooked.
So no, there is no grand conspiracy. There is no
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way of seting. You know's not some way which Adam
Silver guarantees that it will go a certain number of games.
That simply is not true. And anyone who says otherwise
is just making up things because it's really easy to
make up things in the media and in social media
these days, way easier. It's harder to hide, easier to
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make things up. So it doesn't mean that he's a
perfect official. It doesn't mean it was a perfectly officiated game.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
By the way, Ben Mathen, who had an unbelievable game
in Game three, he missed too gigant take free throws.
I think he missed three or four down the stretch.
I know he missed two gigantic free throws under two
minutes to go. So what are we actually doing here?
We're acting like Scott Foster is the reason that that
Oklahoma City won the game. Pacers misshots, missed free throws
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and couldn't and when they had a lead, they couldn't
keep their foot on the throat of the Oklahoma City thunder.
That's the story. And this is somebody who has no
I don't even have to support, have no dog in
the fight. Watch basketball, no basketball. Didn't like a couple
of no calls. But I'm not gonna sit there and
go they were cheating calls. That's bull for people who
say it, especially people who work in the media. But
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this is also just another reason why you can't pay
attention to social media because people just don't know what
They just don't know. Rick Berker joined us ask his
opinion around the corner. First, Uh, let's get my man
Dan Byron here, get a quick update.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
D anybody got Doug.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
In addition to tonight's Game five, Sham's just reported that
apparently ABC has listened they will have starting lineups as
part of the broadcast tonight. However, in the tweet to announce.
Speaker 15 (44:10):
It, it was specifically stated that it's the first time since
twenty thirteen in the NBA Finals that the starting lineups
will be a part of the pregame broadcast for tonight's
Game five tip off tonight eight thirty Eastern Time from
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
Following a report over the weekend, Yes.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yes, classic like social media where you get somebody who
hasn't paid attention. I love that, Adam Silver said, like
they were people were talking about like, hey, whatever happened
to those Larry O'Brien, I mean the the what's the
trophies Lario Branhross, Yeah, the Larry O'Brien trophies, Like, yeah,
we haven't had those in like a decade because the stickers.
People slip on the stickers.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
I hated the mid court sticker, like I could not
stand it, and they only did it for a couple
of finals. It was just more of not having any
signis whatsoever on the court, like even you know, near
the mid court stripe or anything, but anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Matter, I mean, look, and so they super imposed and
people freaking out about being superimposed.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
It's like, yeah, hey, I'll just I just go ahead.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I'll just say this. You have three different courts, four
different courts during the regular season. Why can't you make
a specific finals court?
Speaker 6 (45:18):
Right you?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
You don't need to make a finals court. They come
in segments. All you got to do is take out
exactly paint that segment. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's
Fox Sports Radio. It's Monday. Uh, it's that Tonight is
going to be Game five of the NBA Finals. Who
better to catch up with than Rick Buker from Fox
Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com covering all things NBA. Buke,
(45:42):
there's there's you know, social media works and really all
forms of media.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
You know, when you.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Have a Scott Foster of fishy in the game and
what some feel like or questionable calls at the end
of a game. You get all kinds of conspiracy theories.
What's your take on the game four?
Speaker 13 (46:02):
I thought there were mistakes made by Indiana in the
final two minutes and forty one seconds. I'm certainly not
going to put what transpired there on Scott Foster. I
thought that the Pacers did get a tough whistle in
the first half, and Rick Carlisle apparently feeling like comfortable
(46:23):
with the score maybe and thinking I may need my
challenges later this is probably going to be a close game.
Opted not to challenge any of them, you know. The
only one, the only debatable one was in the final
minutes that I could see, was the shot by Shake
Gill does Alexander that gave Oklahoma City its first second
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half lead. But based on the liberal interpretation of what
a gather step is and how loose they are in
callings step back, I don't know that he would have
won that. I would have liked to have seen him
challenge that and seen where it would have gone. But
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other than that, my feeling was that the Pacers were
victims of their own hands. They made far too many mistakes.
Their execution wasn't good. They reached in too many situations. Look,
the referees demonstrated, let's let you know how they were
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going to call it early on, and I don't know
that the Pacers adjusted and took that into account in
terms of how they played. So I'm not going to
I'm not going to put this on Scott Foster. I
thought it was a tough whistle early on. I thought
there were a number of plays, number of calls that
in looking at them at replay clearly went the wrong way.
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But that's why you have challenges and and certainly that's
not where the game was decided. I thought the game
was decided in the third quarter. Actually, at the end
of the third quarter, when the Pacers led, had their
biggest lead by ten, had an opportunity should have, I believe,
should have expanded it to sixteen or eighteen at that
point and made it really difficult for Oklahoma City to
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mount a fourth quarter comeback. And Carlisle had a gas
Obie topping and what appeared to be a gas Pascal
Siakam and an ineffective TJ. McConnell, and an ineffective Andrew
Nemmhart and he didn't make any changes. He wrote it
to the end, and they scored one point in the
final two minutes. Instead of it being seventeen, it was seven.
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And you just got the feeling like the thunder felt
like they dodged a bullet.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yep, I would agree.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
You kind of got a step on him when he
got him down, and yeah, I thought he traveled.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I thought he pushed off.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But again, well, we've seen enough of those not be called,
you know, and we've seen enough not be called to
understand probably why they weren't called.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
And look, you miss Ben Mather and missed two free
throws too.
Speaker 13 (49:03):
You can't understand that in miss three or four, Yeah,
in three or four, and even like in the final
with seven seconds left, he could have fouled new Dort
and didn't, and the ball swings to Shay and and
them heart and then it is forced to foul him,
and I look, the game was probably out of reach
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at that point because you had two fouls on on
on inbounds plays where okay, so you got free throws
and possession of the ball, so the game was already decided.
But that was just a microcosm for me of the
little mistakes that Indiana made. I just got the overall sense,
whether it was from Rick Carlisle or the Pacers, that
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they felt like, oh, we've got this, we got them,
and didn't show enough respect for the fact that the
Oklahoma City Thunder were a sixty eight win team and
that if you had an opportunity to put them in
a deep hole, you needed to do it rather than
think that, you know what, we're just gonna as we have,
(50:08):
as we've proven we're the better executing team. In the
final minutes, they decided to play that game. And uh,
and and when you don't fully respect an opponent, you
often you often pay the price. The only other other
call that I looked at that that would suss and
I didn't see it in real time the replay was
the turnover by Halliburton where it looked like Dork gave
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him a shove in order to get the ball. That's
the only other other other whistle that I saw where
I was thinking, Okay, they missed one in the final minutes.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, what
do you make of the Desmond Bine trade?
Speaker 14 (50:50):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (50:50):
That the Orlando Magic are looking at it and saying,
we've we've got a crazy number of first round picks,
and we want to go for it.
Speaker 10 (50:59):
Now.
Speaker 13 (51:00):
We think we're we think we're one player away from
from making this happen, and we need to kind of
clear up our almost an embarrassment of riches. I was
surprised that the number of picks, to be honest with you,
unprotected first round picks. But I think the way they're
looking at it is, you know what we expect to
(51:20):
be really good, and we look at the uh and
and and therefore, you know, how good are those picks
going to be? And uh and the and the Eastern
Conference is wide open, like nobody knows what the Boston
Celtics are going to be. Nobody's buying the Milwaukee Bucks
right now, Philadelphia seventy six ers, I mean, go down
(51:41):
the line. I think they're looking at it and looking
at how how how they've played the last year or
two and are saying, you know, the one thing that
we're missing, the big one thing that we're missing is
is three point shooting. And Desmond Bane can certainly give
us that and gives us a very tough, physical backcourt
(52:03):
between Jal and Suggs and Desmond Vane and so I
think they just decided, you know, we're going to go
for it because at this point we have a bunch
of young players, like we can't all the picks that
we have, We're not going to be able to utilize
them all. So I think they probably gave get almost
(52:25):
practically gave away a couple in this case.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Where are we with Kevin Durant in regards to the
likelihood of him being traded and destinations?
Speaker 13 (52:35):
Well, the interesting you know, the report is that Houston,
San Antonio and Miami Heat are his preferred destinations. As
we know with star players, they generally you're picking from
the teams that they want to go to, and so
you know, who can make the best deal or how
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much that he directs like I want to go to
this particular place. I mean, it really comes down to
if it's those three, both Houston and San Antonio can
make better offers for KD than than than Miami at
this point. That said, at least as starter kits for
(53:19):
what Phoenix is I assume is looking to rebuild. That said,
I believe that the best place for KD would be
among those three teams. Would be Miami. The absolute best
place would be for me would be Denver, and I'd
be willing to move Jamal Murray in order to make
that happen. And I would sell Phoenix on the idea
(53:41):
that we're going to give you the point guard you
guys have been looking for since Chris Paul left town.
And and the money that that Jamal is making comes
close to what KD is, So it wouldn't be a
one for one, but it could be fairly close. And
I love the idea of of Aaron Gordon, Nikola Jokic
(54:03):
and k D as being the core of my of
my Denver team. I think if they had that core,
I put them right there as as being capable of
playing with anybody in the West, and I probably favor
them regardless of what Oklahoma City does in the next week.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's the
voice of Rick Buker, New York Knicks head coaching job
still reports that Jason Kidd is the guy. Uh, but
they continue to get turned down, and then of course
the internet has fun with it. You know that the
Bucks offered up Doc Rivers on the Knicks refuse this time.
Like you've heard all of those, what's the reality to
(54:45):
where they are in their head coaching search?
Speaker 13 (54:47):
They I mean, they're they're they're searching for an answer
right now. I do believe that while the Jason Kidd
thing was turned down, I would not be surprised if
we end up revisiting that. It really comes down to,
And I haven't had a chance to talk to Jason
or anybody in his camp yet, but I I could
(55:11):
see where he pushes the needle and tries to make
make that, tries to reopen that from his end, because
it wasn't Jason Kidd rejecting the request, it was the
Dallas Maverick saying we're not going to let you talk
to our guy. And uh, and then it comes down
to are they willing willing to give up a pick
(55:32):
or is Dallas posturing in order if we do give
him up, then you're gonna have to give us a
little bit more than than maybe was originally a thought.
So that's where I would expect I would expect that
to go. But look, Uh, every GM that I've ever
talked to always has a list in his pocket of
(55:56):
the head coaches that he would hire if he could
his wish list, and it's regardless of whether he has
a coach that he likes at the time or not.
They always have that. And the way the Knicks have
approached this would make you think that they that they
didn't have a wish list like that, because even if
(56:19):
you look at the guys that they've supposedly requested interviews from,
they're all different. They're all like they're just across the board.
They don't make a whole lot of sense for what
the New York Knicks have and where they are. So
it's hard to predict what they're doing when one you
(56:41):
don't we've got multiple people in the front office that
put out information, you don't know which one to trust.
And two, the proof is in the way they've approached this,
which is a scattergun approach. It just does not fit
with every other coach search that I've seen. Look, I
(57:01):
thought from the very beginning, if you're the first place
I would go is Taylor Jenkins. So I think he
got the short stick in Memphis, and I think he
demonstrated that with a scoring point guard, he knows how
to run a team like that, And I know that
he had the respect of his players until the front
office undercut him and brought in some assistant coaches to
(57:22):
run the kind of offense that the front office thought
that they should run. That's the first place that I
would have gone. And maybe the second would have been
not Chris Finch to the Minnesota Timberwolves for his assistant
coach Michael Nori because Norri. Because we've got a chance
to see him coach that team in the playoffs, and
I think that from what I know about his personality,
(57:42):
I think he'd be able to handle the New York market.
Those would have been the first two places that I
would have gone. And not an array of coaches who
have current jobs and you have to get permission from
their teams in order to just talk to them.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Awesome stuff. Buke, that's Rick Bucker. You see him on
Fox Sports one. You're reds work at Fox Sports dot com.
You hear him weekly here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Buke outstanding. Enjoy the game tonight. We will talk soon.
Thanks for our guest.
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