Don't Blow Up The Clippers' Roster 05/01/17

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and figure out what in the hell are the Chicago
Bears doing. Uh, we'll get to the Clippers in a second.
I want to leave you with at this. I want
to start you with this story where Mike Glennon was
invited to be part of the draft day celebration with

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the Chicago Bears. Right, And I'm not sure if you're
aware by now, but the Chicago Bears with their first pick,
moved up and drafted a quarterback who will, at some point,
whether in the near or long term future, supplant Mike
Glennan as the quarterback, and he's mad and he has
every right to be. And uh, it's a really really

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bad look. Now. Look, the reality of it is the
reality of it is this. I don't think anybody thought
Mike Glennon was the long term answer. Mike Glennon was
going to have a great opportunity this year to show
that he can be a long term starter. And I
Mitch Drabinski's probably not ready, so he'll get his year.

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He will be some sort of lame duck. But you
know what, if you're good enough. It's like Dak Prescott,
who wasn't supposed to be the guy in Dallas. He
was just let's hope Dak keeps it together until Tony
Romo returns. One year later, Tony Romo, he's broadcasting games,
and Dak Prescott is your starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.
So you get that opportunity, you do with it as

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you as you will. And I also believe that Ryan
Pason is in his desire to keep it he's the
general manager to keep its secret from everybody, including his
head coach. Another bad look. This wasn't his decision, right, Like,
that's not he's getting ready for the draft. The PR
staff is like, hey, well let's get Mike Glenn and

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he's our quarterback. He'll be there rah rah rah rah.
But just can you imagine you're there? They're like with
the first with the second pick, there's a trade and
like it's builds the excitement, Like Mitch Robinsky, don't I mean,
what do you say? What do you do? Buffalo Bills? Also,

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they got rid of their general manager of the day
after the NFL Draft. So you're saying what I did
the last three days wasn't good? Is that what you're
saying you didn't like it? Obviously that was a long
time in the works. I will rip into the Buffalo
Bills spelled with four els, not just for these four
consecutive Super Bowl losses, but they're the Bills, right the law,
the the franchise with the longest consecutive run of not

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making the playoffs in not so shocking fashion once again
found a way to show themselves to be a dystopian empire.
I just I want to bet with a buddy finding
a way to use dystopian correctly in a sentence, and
I did so in the opening four minutes of the show.
I feel really good about myself. Hopefully you had a
great weekend. Uh Ryan Music, produce of this show, said

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he spent the spent the weekend laying out in the
sun at the beach. You're a layout guy? What are you?
I just I didn't know there was a male who
was straight who you're probably with your girlfriend and that's
why she's sitting with me, read a book with me.
You're like, Okay, don't you actually couldn't be more wrong.
You're you're you've always been a layout guy. Uh No,

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I mean I don't really do the layout thing. More
just playing beach volleyball. But let's let's play the bros
with the bros. The bros. Ramos is back as well, Ramos,
good weekend, wonderful weekend. You're not You're not a Clipper fan, then, right?
I am not. There's no here's let me just let
you in on something. There's no such thing. Actually it's

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a Clipper fan. There's no there's no real say like
Billy Crystal may say he's a Billy Crystal grew up
in New York. Like, he's really a New York sports fan,
and um, look, I'm sure at the time he came
to Los Angeles, Laker prices were obscene. Everybody like the Lakers.
He's like, you know what, I like the little engine
that could. I know, I moved to Los Angeles and

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eighty one, I too, was kind of the not a
Laker fan, Like I respected the Lakers, but I like
the Celtics because everybody liked the Lakers, but nobody grew
up a Clipper fan. I just didn't like the Clippers. Anything.
You think of the Bills, Now, there was a time
when the Bills were great. There was never a moment
to where the Clippers were great. It just wasn't. This
is actually the golden era of Clippers basketball. He's like,

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no way, Yeah, they won fifty games four consecutive years,
haven't escaped the secon round of the playoffs, and this
is the best that it gets. So you have to
have that perspective when you think of yesterday's game seven
Laws at home and you're like, oh, it doesn't get
any worse. It's such a Clipper thing to do. Win
games six on the road. Hey, by the way, you
taught very very Utah thing to do. Lose game six

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at home, go back. Look historically Jordans push off, Ryan Russell,
jump shot bucket game series sixth title, retire, he came back.
I don't pay attention. But the point is this, The
immediate viscer reaction is blow it up. And part of

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it is that's who we are as Americans, right, I'll
just blow it up, and that's who we are as
guys too. I mean, it's one of the reasons that
Fourth July is such a great holiday. And does it
mark our independence? Yes? And how do we mark our
independence by blowing stuff up? And I, for one am
a big proponent of it. Obviously, I'm very happy that
to this point I have all my digits, but I
totally understand just the sheer power of an M A

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D stuffed into something and blowing it to Smitherin's many
people have gleefully lost fingers because we as guys, as Americans,
like to blow stuff up. And so because there's no
real ties to the Clippers, there is no golden era
to yearn four, because they're just kind of making it

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up as they go because they have the ultimate geek
as their as their owner. How about him give get
out Game six? That was uncomfortable. This fast is often
that was uncomfortable. It's like, come on, man, I know
you're a billionaire. I get it. You could buy me
fifty times over, but you got it like that. You're
a meme as long as memes exist. But we have

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this thought in our heads and that the Clippers lost,
and we're supposed to be surprised. They didn't lose because
they're the Clippers. They lost because they got like three
and a half good players and one of them was heard.
And the Jazz are pretty good. And the thing that
the Clippers don't have is a shooting guard who can
really guard somebody in a small forward and guess what,
the Jazz have two guys shooting guards before he can

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really really score bat matchups. But we freak out about it,
and our immediate reaction is you blow it up. But
I always look at problems and I think of what's
the alternative? You fired Doctorrvis today you can't. There's a
lot of people think he goes back to Orlando where
it ended poorly. That's where he lives there in rebuild mode.

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Doc's got a great way about him, especially with younger guys.
You can get them into being a playoff team. I
have no idea what they've been doing in Orlando, but
none of it has been particularly good. You gonna have
a new general manager, new head coach. Maybe he'll be
president there or whatever he fired Doctor evers. Who do
you hire? What is the alternative? There's well, Chris Paul

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can opt out of his contract. He can. He's he's
a free agent, and he can get two hundred million
dollars if he stays. What is the alternative? Everybody thinks
that there's no You have to resign Chris Paul. Okay,
remember now you resigned Chris Paul. It's a five year deal,
two dred million dollars. He's thirty two. Now, I don't
know how good your math is mine is you're paying

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him at the back end of that deal when he's
thirty six and thirty seven years old. How many good
six ft six ft one point guards are there that
are thirty six thirty seven years old? Oh wait, oh wait,
oh wait, that's right, there aren't any. Right. Whatever you
think of the running back position and sort of the

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thirty years old, and occasionally you'll have a plus thirty
running back being productive, like a Frank Gore was productive.
That's basically the same thing with a thirty five year
old point guard. You're more likely to get hurt less.
I could be able to guard, and you can't get
by anybody. And so I'm always intrigued with this idea
that you have to resign guys, you have to pay
them the most possible money, and nobody actually is fiscally

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responsible enough to go like, hey, do you actually really
want to win games? This is the thing about athletes,
is we all, and I consider myself still an athlete,
we all say we really really really want to win.
I want to win, But most of us don't really
want to win. We don't We're not willing to sacrifice

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time with our family. Are you willing to sacrifice money?
Are you willing to sacrifice moving? Are you That's the
question that Chris Paul has to ask himself. And they
might be able to rework it on the fly and
trade Blake Griffin and maybe they get some from Oklahoma
City backer intern or maybe they take on Carmelo Anthony.
I don't think that makes them more likely to win.
I think it maybe makes them interesting and different but

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still in the same position. But outside of that, like,
what are Chris Paul's options? And like, oh, anybody would
want Chris Paul? They probably would, He's great. Would anybody
want Chris Paul for five years? Now? I understand he
can only sign that deal with the with the Clippers?
Would anybody want for four years? And the places he

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can go are they assured of being a championship caliber
team more so than what he has with the Clippers? Well,
you go to the Lakers? Does are they a championship team?
Have you watched Laker basketball? He can't go to the Warriors,
they don't want him. You're not gonna go to the Cavaliers.
They already have their point guard. They're kind of already set.

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So like, where are you going to go? Chris Paul
doesn't like doesn't like Doc Rivers. He's tired of DC
Rivers playing too much golf. Like, that's fine, What are
your other options? Where can Chris Paul possibly go? That
he wields so much power that he can determine who
his head coach is gonna be when he doesn't really
have other options, And so This isn't me saying I'm

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okay with the man sticking it to Chris Paul and
making him take less money. I'm just reacting to the
world of sports. This is actually the best era for
the Clippers have ever had, crazy as it may see,
and they're not that far off. Will they ever win
a championship? Probably not the likely it is they probably won't,

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But the best possible scenario is probably to keep as
many pieces as you can. I would I would frankly
consider Jetti singing JJ Reddick and seeing if you get
something better there. Like, the real reason they haven't won
is they have an just such an incomplete roster. They

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never had a good small forward. And then when you
lose your power forward, now the sudden you don't have
to help ever off JJ Reddick. He can't get a
shot in his own. He's not great at covering at
the other end, and it's Chris Paul and hoping they
can throw the ball the rim for DeAndre Jordans. Otherwise
it's just hit or miss. Based upon other guys chucking
and ducking than Paul. Pierce was literally on his last

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legs Luke Luke and Bob Moute wouldn't have started for
anybody else in the playoffs. Austin Rivers was actually decent
the last couple of games, but because he's Austin Rivers
coach's son, he's never gonna find a way to get
out of the fans doghouse. Outside of that, Mrs Lincoln,
how is the show? But they're actually not that far off.
And if you say, well, you have to give all

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these guys all that money to get him to stay,
Like for Chris Paul, why either you really want to
win and you're willing to sacrifice a little bit of money,
or you're not. You're not. So this is what happens
in the NBA, instead of focusing on the Spurs and

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the Rockets, which I think is going to be the
best series of these this round of series, and frankly,
Wizards and Celtics will be right there, and they should
be because are the most closely aligned in terms of
wins or losses. But instead of paying attention to the
winning team, we spend a moment to catch our breath
and think about the losing team. The reality of it

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is the Clippers had a better than expected season with
Chris Paul and Blake Griffin missing a substantial time because
of injury. They lost to a really good club that
went for it and Gordon Haywards. Last year they added
some veteran players and they beat him in a game
seven at home after losing to him in a game
six at home. And this is actually the best the
Clippers have ever consistently been and breaking apart that consistency,

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it's it's just our mentality, let's blow it up. But
if you've ever blown stuff up on Fourth or July afterwards,
you like that was kind of dumb. I could have
lost a finger, I could have fired off one of
those rockets into somebody's hair, and there's not really that
much personal award for doing it, much like they would

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join us up coming next. I want to ask him
about this. It feels like Houston did the smart thing.

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On the other hand, so many other teams are like, dude,
Deshaun Watson, I don't see it. What is his evaluation
of Deshaun Watson and what is the likelihood that he
could finally be the quarterback that that franchise has never had?
Plus the Bears and the Bills with four els with
Brian Billick, Next Doug Olave Show, Fox Sports Radio eight seven,

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seven nine on Fox Get chance to a couple of
year calls, get your comments, but instead, let's get somebody
who's smarter than us in regards to the NFL. Brian Billick,
of course, who was a mastermind as an offensive coordinator
and won a Super Bowl as a head coach. You
can see him now on the NFL Network and of course,

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uh he's working with x Tech shoulder pads. Will talk
more about that as he joins us a couple of
days after the NFL Draft has concluded. Coach Billy, how
are you good afternoon? Um, Let's let's start with the
number two pick. What was your reaction to what Chicago
decided to do? Well, obviously a bold move anytime, and
that's always about the quarterbacks, I guess, But any time

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you take a quarterback in the first round, particularly the
first half of the first round. You know, it's pretty simple.
You're saying this is a franchise quarterback, regardless of when
you plan on starting him, and what that process is
to move up and give up what they got I
had to give up to go up and get Mitchell
Trobinsky clearly tells me they think this is a franchise quarterback.

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And um, you know again, why did they pay Mike
Glenn and the money they did to come in and
then go get Trabinsky. Did they not have that sized up?
Did they not think they could get him? Hard to
Hi Matt? But there they sit with it, and it
can't imagine that Mitchell Tubisky is not gonna be the
start a very very quick place. Yeah, it reminds me
in some levels of what happened with Philadelphia last year,

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right where they signed Bradford and then they found themselves
able to go and get Carson Wentz. That The difference,
obviously is they were sitting there at three. It wasn't
that big a move. They had to have some sense
that they would have a shot at him. But I
guess Coach Bill, the more troubling part is that they
didn't loop in their head coach like John Fox apparently
didn't know of this scenario until shortly before it happened.

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And again, i'm football outsider, your football insider, But when
GM isn't talking to head coach about the most important
position on the field, that doesn't seem to bode well
for their relationship. What what's your reaction when you hear
that that they made this move and they weren't looping
their head coach into the process. Well, indeed that's the case.
This is uh that actually makes sense, because I don't

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think this is a good move for John Fox, uh
to go into year three. He just finished the three
and thirteen season. And you know, you go three years
losing in the National Football League, you're not gonna be
there long unless the organization collectively says, no, we're gonna
take our quarterback of the future. We know what that
means for a coach when you take a rookie quarterback,
particularly when you haven't had a winning season, don't worry

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about it. We're okay, We're gonna stick with you. Of course,
that's exactly what they told Jack del Rio just before
he took Blaine Gabbert and didn't turn out real well
the next year, Uh if I'm uh John Fox, And
indeed it went down that way. I think the handwritings
on the wall, I would I tend to agree with you.
Brian Billick from the NFL Network joints just Doug outlet
show Fox Sports Radio. Bill's wait till after the draft,

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and then Terry Bogoula says, Okay, we're firing everybody in
our scouting department and our general manager. Um, I guess
I wonder, like, wouldn't the new general manager want to
have his own draft, want to pick his own free agents?
I like I And there was just well, we don't
want to let him out on the on the markets
of the I can tell tell everybody what we're doing.

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If you didn't like what you're doing, why do you
care what Doug Whaley is telling people what you're doing.
What do you think about what Buffalo did yesterday? Well,
the sequencing And it's very typical that this happens after
the draft. I mean, if you do it at the
end of the season, you can't fire the entire scouting
staff because there's just not enough time. Now, you may
change a general manager, he'll come in and live with

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the existing scouting staff and then he'll make his changes
after the draft. Um, it's like fire and coach just
for the end of the season. I don't know that
it does any good. And when you fire the coach,
you don't fire all the assistants as well, because you've
gotta have some coaches to finish out the season. So
the sequencing doesn't throw me off too much. Again, it's
hard for me to imagine that Whaley didn't know this

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was coming, that they had already had conversations with him,
look ahead and finish out the draft, unless it is
he was a part of picking uh the head coach
and then the head coach, and he just aren't getting
along an ownership hath the side of wayman, we just
hired this coach. If these two aren't going to get along,
then Sean McDermott needs to have more power. Let him
pick the gm UH and we're gonna make a change.

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This appears to be planned C for the Houston Texans
getting DeShawn Watson in the first round training up to
get him a plan he was probably Romo, Plan B
might have been Garoppolo, and Plan C is Deshaun Watson.
They have an outstanding defense last year even without J. J. Watt,
you got Lamar Miller. Um, you got foreman from Texas.
You gotta back up a young backup to to Lamar Miller.

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You got a good running game, got some very talented
wide receivers. They got to rebuild their offensive line a
little bit. But what's your assessment of the likelihood of
success for Deshaun Watson and Houston. Well, if all the
core breacks were taken, I think he has the best
chance for just what you outlined. Um. It reminds me
a little bit of when the Baltimore Ravens back in
two thousand and eight took Joe Flacco. Um, he was

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not intended to start. Injuries put him in the starting
lineup from week one. He had rookie like numbers approach
completions only through the ball four plus times porn or
twenty some hot times, fourteen touchdowns, twelve interceptions. With that defense,
to Shaun Watson, go in, be serviceable, grow as he
as he progresses through the season, Maybe makes some place

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for you on third down. Uh. They're good enough team
and in that division that that that seems workable to me,
whether he was the third option or not. I you know,
I've always said need is a terrible evaluator. And if
indeed they struck out on the first two and said, Okay,
what the heck, We'll trade up and get the twelve
pick overall a quarterback, that could be a little problematic
as well. Brian Billick joining US Doug Galic Show, Fox

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Sports Radio. Running back has been a position that, while important,
has been diminished in terms of its value, especially in
the NFL Draft, with a couple of exceptions Girly going
back two years ago, Zekillia last year. Um, of the
running backs taken in the first round, UM, who do
you think is the best fit in terms of immediately

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having impact with their team? Well, you know we that
I found the running back position one of the most
interesting going into the draft because I think it was
going to tell us a little bit about where we
were at as a as a league. Um, in terms
of you know, we we we've gone past the point
where we recognize, Um, you know you're not gonna have

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two many three plus carry guys. There was only one
last year in Ezekiel Elliott. Um, it's become a position
where you can get it by committee. Uh, you're expecting
more of the backfield, and so a letter four net
versus Christian McCaffrey, which are very different choices. Leonard, for Nett,
could be a three hundred plus carrey guy in illegal
as was Zekil Elliott. Christian McCaffrey is not going to

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carry it three hundred times, but they'll have better than
three hunder touches between the carries and the receptions. Dalvin
Cook is kind of somewhere in between. Of course, Joe
Mixon's well documented what his issues were, clearly as good
or maybe the best overall back in the draft. So
Cincinnati's certainly got a value in that regard. But I
think it tells us that, yeah, the league is still

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heading towards the fact that you're not going to have
that one bell cow runner, you expect more out of
the backfield. Um, and and uh you know that that
it's something that the league, for the most part, people
are gonna wait maybe to the second and third round,
thinking you can get more value there. Um, you're you're
working with X tech shoulder pads, coach, Why are x
tech shoulder pads different and better than others? Well, the

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league's working very hard to get the head out of
the game as it should in. All that means is
that obviously the shoulder pads are that much more important,
but they haven't changed in thirty years until now. Ex
Tech pads the next iteration of shoulder pads. They have
the x r D military grade foam. They're in twenty
seven NFL teams. College is better than a hundred high schools.

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Seven of the top three draft choices, top three round
draft choices are in X tech pads. Uh So this
is the way to go. I mean, this is this
is the next generation of pads where we need to
be with the ultimate and technology. I have two grandsons
and if they choose to play, they're gonna be anx
You know, one of the things they've done for players
safety is that they've limited the practice time which to

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save bodies. But it's made especially offensive lines, have you know,
the coaches to take like, hey, you know the blocking
schemes they have in college and the ability to block
at the professional level just so different. Um. I know
it's boring to talk about and this was a bad
offensive line draft, but was there a team that made
a move on their lines that really that impressed you?

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To which we'll see a change early on in the
sea because really last year was a lot of it
was about protecting the quarterback. And look at the Raiders
in their line, look at the Cowboys in their line.
The Patriots fixing their line from the year before when
they were destroyed by by the by the Denver Broncos
in the playoffs. Was there anybody who's made some moves
that jumps out to you, especially because there's such limited
practice time to fix those lines. Well, I think the

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top picks in the offensive line boils went to Denver,
the big offensive tackle from Utah, the ram Check from Wisconsin.
Moments last time in Wisconsin, offensive linement not good. Cam Robinson,
who many people thought was the best offensive lineman in
the draft from Alabama went to Jacksonville, and Forest Lamp
from Western Kentucky went to the Charger. So uh, And
you can even throw in posting from from the center

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from l s U who went to Seattle. We all
know those are five four teams, five teams that definitely
helping the offensive line. It's a tough transition to start
in the NFL. The fact that they got these values
in the late first round, early second Uh, it was
unique to this draft because usually lineman will go higher,
but I think these guys will all help those teams.
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got here. Doug. By the way, you didn't know this,
John Ramos had an old nickname. Instead of Andre three thousand,

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he was Doppler three thousand. Then all the weather stations
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He would tell you just like that. That's why they

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called him Doppler three thousand. Yeah, let's let's dive into
your sack and we've got uh yeah, how about that?
What are the chances? What are the chances that we
are the chances man? What are they? Probably pretty good? Yeah,
I would agree with you. Let's start out with the
NBA because tonight we've got two playoff series getting underway.

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Maybe the most competitive of the four we think we
could have is between the Rockets and Spurs. So Doug,
let's start out there. What are the chances the Rockets
take the series from San Antonio as they start their
series tonight in the Western Conference semifinals. Greg Papovich, Mike D'Antonio,
Mike D'Antoni. That's all you need to know. I'm gonna
just listen. And I think Mike D'Antoni is an offensive savant.

(27:23):
I like these empowered Jeff Bzdilic to be his defensive coordinator.
Um and truth be told, like there could be a
little payback. I don't I don't know how many people
remember there was a time in which the Phoenix Suns
were the best team in the NBA, and they didn't
beat the Spurs, even though they beat the Spurs in
San Antonio. Think it was game two, Um, I don't know,
excuse me, it's game four And who was this? Robert

(27:48):
Ory kind of pushed Steve Nash into the boards and
then a Mari Stadomer and a much slimmer boors Dal
got up off the bench for just a minute and
they were then um ineligible for the next game like
game five or may it was game six or whatever
in Phoenix. But you don't have him or you don't

(28:09):
have Boris dl. They were the two best big guys,
uh for the Phoenix Suns. Anyway, The point is that Phoenix,
once upon a time with Steve Nash, actually was going
to beat the San Antonio's person in the playoffs. But
by and large, would you take a great Popovitch team
that's built around balance, defense, winning, winning in the postseason consistency,
or will you take a groundbreaking offensive team like Papovitch

(28:34):
your D'Antoni. End of the day, I'm taking pop of it.
So what are the chances that the Rockets win? It
was a long long end. That's all right, that's all right.
By the way, you mentioned Boris du Boris dious his
body dis body changed so much you wondered if there
were two Boris dause to be I mean, like, I'm
not one to talk about body changes, but it was
just gonna it was gonna say, like, I wonder you

(28:56):
wondered if there was maybe two because you just didn't
weren't sure if it was the same guy or not. No,
he likes Boris likes American food, maybe a little bit
a little bit too much. And wait, what are the
chances that LaVar Ball had a part in getting Chino
Hills High School hoops coach Stephen Grilling fired after just
one season? Yes, the coach at Chino Hills done after
just one year? Well, um, one are the chances? Now,

(29:20):
that doesn't mean that LaVar Ball walked into the principal's
office of the athletic director's office at Chino Hills High
School and said I want him out. But if he
didn't want him fired, he wouldn't have been fired, right,
So it's a lot like when Mike Brown was fired
by the l A Lakers mid season, or by the
eating by the l A Lakers, Like I believe I

(29:41):
was actually told Kobe Bryant walked in said he's got
to go. But even if it hadn't happened that way,
and at the time, gentlemanagement cup Check was like, Kobe, listen,
we're gonna fire Mike Brown. If Kobe Bryant says like, no,
you're not, then guess what, No, you're not. One other
NBA notes, um, I don't know if you caught this duck,
but one on the chances that you interviewed with Fox

(30:02):
Sports or Oklahoma State with your dog in hand, just
like Robin Lopez did in his interview. I actually did
interview on Skype with a with a local TV show
with my dog, like sitting behind me and the dog
was trending on the I have a have a great
look at sheep a doodle sheep dog poodle. His name?

(30:23):
Do you know my dog's name? Odell Beckham Jr JR.
U Obi JJ we call Moody. But uh yeah, ob
j J. So anyway, uh so, what are the chances
that you would say, at least that you didn't interview
with it. I did not. I should have brought the
dog to the interview. Yeah, Robin Lopez brought his. I

(30:44):
think it looked like a poodle or maybe a golden
doodle who let the dogs out. Robin Lopez let the
dog out. But I love the fact that the poodle
is like clutching to Robin Lopez as he's conducting an
interview on TV, which, like, I'm telling you the poodle
mix thing, it's awesome. They're really smart. Dog. My dog
actually reads the dog food games like, oh, alpoo, meet

(31:07):
by product, could you fix this up for me? Pollute?
And you have a little cante to wash it down,
so high percentage. Moving on to the National Football League,
the Houston Texans apparently wouldn't return calls from the representatives
of Jay Cutler. Yes, it was Cutler's reps calling the Texans,
and then Texans wouldn't call back. So what are the
chances that Cutler actually sees action on any NFL team? Wow,

(31:28):
he's gotten kind of blackballed, hasn't he? But I thought
Colin Kaepernick was getting blackball because of his political stance.
Oh maybe not. Um. I do think he gets some calls.
I do think he ends up on an NFL roster
at some point. I think at this point he'd be
smart to just sit and wait until a quarterback goes down,
or somebody's somebody's you know, somebody just stinks and they're like, look,

(31:49):
we can't take it. We gotta bring we gotta bring
him in. Might happen. It might happen in Cleveland. I
know they they went to drafted to Sean Kaiser, but
you look at last year how many quarterbacks they had
to go through because couldn't protect their quarterback. They'll be
a team that has a need for a veteran quarterback.
But he needs some imageryhab in the worst way. You
started talking about weddings. Let's end kind of on that route.

(32:11):
After Johnny Manzel said he is not planning a bachelor
party so he can focus on his NFL return. Was
part of the last three. What are the chances Manzella
is back in the NFL in the next three years?
I'm gonna go uh back in the NFL? You mean
on a team or he signs with a team. Let's
just put yeah, let's just say yes, a team gives

(32:31):
him another chance. Dan. But we're talking about wedding since
Dan Byer was getting married this weekend, so I brought
him a wedding president. I brought him a Kansas shirt
from the bill self fantasy. It was very nice and
I got I got double I got double X. You're
the one making fun of Boris d O and I

(32:53):
got choosed some double X. Hey, I took a shot.
I laid it out there. You don't need to do that.
If one another I got, it's his dance. Now, thanks Doug.
I appreciate that. Man oh Man. By the way, John,
what are the chances of rain in uh Mont Pelio,
Vermont on Tuesday? But it's gonna be low Dan? Now

(33:13):
there you go, See, Dougy, you could take the Doppler
three thousand out of John, but you can't take the
John of the Doppler three thousand. Appreciate that. I feel bad.
I didn't bring Mica. I didn't bring Mike a shirt.
I just don't worry about it. Yes, i'd feel bad.
I did. I did, but I brought I brought too many.

(33:34):
I think I brought too many size largest was that?
Was that? What it was? Ryan? Was there too many
largest there and there were enough largest not a lot
excels X double. I just you know, like, look, I
I struggle with body type and with trying to I'm
not I don't work at a carnival, like, you know,
the carnival guy that can tell you how much you
weigh before you actually get on the scale, Like I

(33:54):
couldn't do that. I knew Ramo's I felt like Ramos
has been working out recently. He was he was in
the sh medium so a category, right, like he likes
the tight on the guns. Let's be honest, Johnson. The
free category. Well, any radio guy, any radio guy is
in the free category, right, Like, there's no like you
put out free food. The reason that they put out

(34:14):
whatever food at media days for radio guys is if
it's free, it's me like radio guys go after Hey,
music will tell you, like I divulged to him, how
low budget I am? Now I think this is smart
buy are you tell me if you think this is cheap?
I think this is pushing the line a little bit.
All right. So there's a there's a a fast food

(34:36):
ish establishment. Okay, well let's not give out the name.
You know, they're not sponsor to the show. They should
sponsor the show. If they did, I would tout it
every day because they make really good chicken, really good chicken,
and I'm a chicken dude, right anyway, So a couple
of days ago. I never buy a drink at a

(34:57):
fast food establishment, but this particular one I did, and
I get my tea lemonade kind of like my Arnold
Palmer that's mostly te limited limonade, and so I had
it in my car. And then yesterday I was going
to my mom's house and my mom doesn't have tea
and lemonadd the house. She has like water. And then
all the stuff she has is like sugar, like old
people sugar free stuff like in powder form, right, and

(35:20):
it's been there since the sixties. It feels like So
I decided, you know what, I'll use the same cup.
I'll go and I'll dump out the remaining water that's
in it. And it's it's free refills. So I walked in,
walked in, didn't buy anything, just got another tea lemonade,
walked out. Then I walked in today, had the same cup,
walked over to the same establishment which is here, and

(35:40):
got another free refill. There's got to be it's funny
for our limit. The question, well, the question becomes do
you think more or less of me? After I shared
that story with you? The chances of me thinking more
of you are probably zero. Percent, So let me just
put it that way, Um, a new face of Doug

(36:03):
Gottlieb that I didn't know. I'm okay if like you're like,
oh that it's really cheap, like okay, Like, so it's
okay if I sit in the restaurant for hours on
end and get a free refill, or if I do.
I've only gotten two refills so far. I think I'm
gonna get another one here in the break on on
this drink and I hadn't spent time this in any

(36:23):
of the establishments. And it's tea, which is like the
least expensive thing in the world for restaurant to make.
That's how I'm making it up as I go. Uh one, two,
three four. Clay Travis declared a Twitter war will play
it for you, Doug Gottlieb show Fox Sports Radio eight seven, seven,
nine nine on Fox. I like waking up to Clay

(36:46):
Travis in the morning on Fox Sports Radio because he's
a little bit of a poop starters, right, He'll find
some things to tweak people. And he was reacting on
Thursday night like the rest of us were to tack McKinley,
which interesting was Thursday we had on Jim or his
head coach. We talked about what an amazing story, uh
McKinley actually was. But McKinley, remember, carried with him the

(37:08):
picture of his deceased grandma onto the stage, cursed a
couple of times, which I give him a pass for,
but it was interesting. So uh, hey, Travis kept tweeting
about it. Um, is the picture of the Grandma? I
carry on? Did he check it go through a metal detector?
I have so many questions here. I can't stop thinking

(37:30):
about the grandma picture. This might be my entire first
hour of the show. Also, where was that picture taken?
What grown picture takes a solo picture of themselves? And
that became a Twitter wars one, two, three, four, I
declare a Twitter war alright. So uh to Carson McKinley,
who's attack tack McKinley is what he's known by, tweeted

(37:51):
out UM yesterday, hope this shows you the devil is
alive and well too straight disrespect somebody's grandmother and think
it's he is crazy to me, Clig Travis says, I
love Grandma's more than you, sincerely. Uh, here's the thing.
Most of us have dead Grandma's right if you're lucky enough.

(38:13):
Do you have your grandma still probably alive, whether she
raised or didn't didn't raise it. It's not disrespectful to
like point out, like man pictures were different. It is
a really good question. It is a good question. He
didn't answer the question. Did he check it on? Did
he send it to himself? Like did he go home
and that I want that picture? He carried it under
his arm and does the picture when he goes out

(38:36):
at night after being draft in the first round, has
the party? Does he bring the picture with him? Like,
I'm intrigued by it? And I think some of this
is the old game of telephone, which is it gets
passed down to Hey, he's been crushing your grandma and
your act on stage. You gotta come at him. So
he grabbed as many screenshots as he could and started

(38:57):
a Twitter war, to which it's the tone of Twitter
doesn't translate perfectly, and tack overreacted, and Clay did with
Clay did, and Poop started the Patriots and the Bills.
Their success or lack thereof, is pretty telling when you

(39:18):
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(39:42):
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Draymond Green doesn't know how to take a compliment, even
if the compliment is inaccurate. We'll get to that later
on this hour. We'll take it to Cleveland to Buffalo,
Buffalo spelled with L O L in the middle, Buffalo,
and we'll take it to San Anton, get to San Anton.

(40:03):
Why do people say San Anton? San Anton is the
Worshington of Texas? Right, it's the well, it's the there's
we're we're actually things that you know, you you breed
out of generations, right, we are breeding out of generations.
People that say Washington like there are fewer and fewer people,
although they still exist, worship clothes Washington, George Washington. It's Washington,

(40:25):
It's Washington. It's always been Worhington. Were um, there's still
people that mispronounced Navinsky. Nobody knows how to pronounce kombucha,
kombucha kambuka. I don't know and there are people that
say San anton which it's clearly not san Antone, it's
San anton Neo. Anyway, we'll take you to San anton

(40:47):
Neo upcoming in fifteen minutes long with Cleveland and Buffalo.
Got a great out for you, Chris, Bruce Sar will
join us next hour. Man, we're loading up, so we
got things happening and um oh man uh. Clay Travis
has tweeted at me that I have great calves. I

(41:08):
do have really nice caves. Thank you very much, appreciate that.
Awesome mh. There's a great juxtaposition in with a couple
of teams in the NFL. Right like, you look at
the Bills and what they do, and many people said, hey,
the Bills had a great draft. I'm not in any

(41:28):
way questioning whether or not the Bills had a good
or a bad draft. Nor am I questioning that Doug
Whaley should have been out. He should have. He made
many a misstep last year. Uh. He goes and drafts
a guy with a bad shoulder who everybody knew had
a bad shoulder, and then he seems surprised that he

(41:49):
has a bad shoulder and doesn't play for right, you
go back in look at when they traded for Sammy Watkins.
Sammy Watkins was thought to be the best wide receiver
in the draft, but it was a i'd received for
a heavy draft that he mortgaged the future for got
Sammy Watkins and could have had Odell Beckham Jr. Without
ever trading up. So he mis evaluated either his board

(42:12):
the wide receivers, but overvalued Watkins. And of course watkins
body has continually broken down to which to this point
the Bills aren't gonna pick up the fifth year on
his contract. And then there was the Tyrod Taylor debuckle
last offseason, which Tyrod Taylor wanted more money. There wasn't
really a market out there for Tyrod Taylor, and instead
of simply giving him, you could have given him a

(42:33):
doubled his money. He was making two million dollars, could
have give him four, could give him five. They gave
him nine. Alright, fine, you're still under paying for a
quarterback by giving him a nine mainte But they had
a thirty million dollar second year that caused the Bills
like a poison pill. That caused the Bills to have
to rework that deal or cut him, and they chose

(42:54):
to rework it. It's a terrible contract tailmor negotiations, especially
when Tyrod Taylor had no leverage. So between trading drafting
players that are injured, trading up for a player over
his actual value and a at a position that was
really really deep in that draft, or giving out bad contracts,

(43:16):
he kind of hit for the cycle there. Doug Welly
being out not a surprise, not a surprise. Doug Welly
being out after the draft not a surprise to NFL folk.
But does it give you the best possible chance for success?
That that's anything in sports is about the best possible

(43:40):
chance for success. I mean, frankly, anything in life is
the best possible chance of success. Well, a seatbelt save
your life. If you're old enough to remember, they used
to not be seatbelt laws in this country. Music is
probably not music, probably right about the cut off of
the probably right when he's a little kid, they put
in the seat olaw. I remember we used to not

(44:01):
always wear seatbelts. And whenever my dad would stop short,
your dad ever do the arm thing? I go, that's
gonna stop me from going through the windshield? Right, they
stick out the arm. But for fifty years preceding the
seatbelt law. People did the arm thing thinking that if
you wore a seatbelt, here was what they would tell you.
You were What happens if you get submerged in water
and you can't get the seatbelt un done. Well, First

(44:25):
of all, if you go off a bridge and you
don't have a seatbelt on, you're probably not going to
be inside the car or in a condition to which
you could even be coherent to get the seatbelt off. Anyway,
a seatbelt is not gonna save you from every crash.
It's just not. But it gives you a better likelihood

(44:45):
of success. In basketball, people talk about good shot and
bad shot. The difference in a good shot is not
whether it goes in or doesn't go in. It's what's
the likelihood that it goes in? The buff little bills.
In football, it's you don't go next. The play call

(45:05):
isn't a good play call because it always works. It's
doesn't work based upon its design and based upon the
personnel grouping you have, and based upon the defense that
it's going against. Like when Russell Wilson through the interception
against the Patriots of the Super Bowl a couple of
years ago, passing the ball there wasn't a terrible decision.

(45:28):
It wasn't but throwing a little en route there, especially
when you had showed it on film and you have
a diminutive quarterback who can't see, so he has to
throw it high. That's where Malcolm Butler was able to
cut in front and get into reception. The likelihood of
success when you're drafting is everybody has to be lockstep.
Have you, guys read Peter King's article about the inside

(45:51):
inner workings of the forty Niners draft room music? You
read that earlier today? It was really good. He was
on with Colin Cowherd. We'll give him a Cowherd a
little shout out. Peter King was not not not John Lynch,
the general manager of the Niners, But if you read it,
it's Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch, the coaching staff. They're all
working together as one, right. It's like a like the

(46:15):
general managers the hand and everybody else's the fingers, and
the coaches the thumb. Right, the thumb is still the
most important of the fingers, but the fingers are connected,
and they're all brought together by the general manager who
ultimately makes that call, makes that pick. Remember, it's not
that the Bills didn't draft well, but the likelihood of
success when you have a first time head coach and

(46:37):
Sean McDermott comes over from Carolina, is going to use
scouts who know they're gonna be out of a job
of the next next day. Who knows the general manager
is a lame duck. He's out, and you're gonna hire
a new general manager who may come in and say like, hey,
I'm here to work with Sean. We'll try and figure out.
But you didn't draft those guys, you were involved in

(46:58):
the free agent process. They're gonna drop you into the
deep end and tell you to swim with people who
you have general manager's judge based upon their record. Right,
can you get the Bills to the playoffs? And maybe
they're successful in spite of this, but the likelihood of
success is lessened the way the Bills did it. So

(47:19):
it shouldn't surprise anybody that the Bagoulas who took over ownership,
you know, four or five years ago, they're like, oh,
this is our first higher like why didn't you do this?
At the end of the year, you get rid of
the coach, get the general manager, start over. Likelihood of
success is low uh David listening in outside of Baltimore,

(47:46):
and I'm trying with Baltimore. Actually I'm not great with it.
Like I do a much better accent like NEOs than
I do Baltimore accident. I just do anyway, appreciate you listening.
Hitting us up on Twitter at gottlieb Show is the
Twitter hand eight seven nine? You don't I like best?
I like what the Patriots did is Dan Buyer. I

(48:07):
can't see Dan Buyers, dan if I just without thinking,
without looking. Okay, do you think the Patriots are good
at the NFL draft? Yes? Yes, okay? Um. Only one
of the past seven top picks that the Patriots have
had has actually played in the playoffs heading into this season.

(48:32):
But I assume me, um, yeah, as of the top
like their first pick, Yeah, their first pick, Jamie Collins,
Aaron Dobson, Dominick Easley, one of the all time buss
Jimmy Garoppolo, who who does as a second round pick
is a really good backup, should be a starter. Malcolm Brown,
Jordan Richards, Cyrus Jones. How many of those names do
you know? I know some of them for sure, Dobson, Jones,

(48:55):
I remember and Malcolm Brown was taken, Jammy Coins, Jammy Collins,
they shift, they shipped away, and they got they were
just as good without him. So it stots to diminish
Jamie Collins because they did for fifty second overall, for
second round pick. He became a really good player. You
actually look historically, the Patriots are not a good drafting team.
Had they had moments of brilliance. Tom Brady is a

(49:16):
moment of brilliance. Rob Gronkowski had a bad back in college.
That's a moment of brilliance. Jamie Collins in the second round,
Karoppolo in the second round. Like, they've had some good ones,
They've had a lot of stinkers. So the question becomes
did they have a good draft? They had a great draft,
and yet they didn't have in many picks. Do you
know why? Because it appears obvious that Bill Belichick knows
who he is. And while Bill Belichick's an outstanding evaluator

(49:38):
of pro talent, he's not a great evaluator of college town.
Case in point, After this past season, only one of
their past seven draft top seven top seven picks. Of
the last seven top picks of the draft, only one
had actually played in a playoff game. M hm. But

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what they did this year was they trade away their
first round pick for Brandon cook Cooks, who they got
from the Saints. They trade away their second round pick
for Connoy Eally, who they got from the Carolina Panthers.
Cone Eally, what say? They trade way their fourth round
pick for Duyne Allen to get them another tight end
from the Indianapolis Colts. They trade away their fifth round
pick from Mike gillis Lee from the Buffalo bill They

(50:24):
trade away Ray the other fifth round pick for James O'shaughnesson.
They're like, look, we can't evaluate college players. It's it's
hit or miss, and we're more missed than hits. You
know what we're gonna do. We're not going to evaluate
college players. It reminds me of um my dad had
an AU program which we've been able to keep going
here and we have really good young coaches running it.

(50:45):
And I helped out coach this weekend and people ask
me all the time, like what do you think of
this guy's player? What do you think of that guy?
I was like, you know, I don't. I've never evaluated
high school players. Now I can evaluate if I like
him if I think I like his game, it's it's
a it's a it's an art there to look at
like a fifteen year old kid, a sixteen year old kid.
Once you get to seventeen or eight teen, I'm I'm better.

(51:06):
But because I have immersed myself in the college game,
I'm much better at evaluating the college players and how
a college player would progress in college, how a college
player would have progress to the pros than it would
be to high school. Because, like my brother has been
doing it twenty five years, So he looks at a
sixteen year old kid, He's like, look, his shoulders are wide,
his body type, this is how he's gonna develop. He's

(51:27):
still gonna grow. So he has a much better sense
of that age and the progression to the college game.
I have a much deeper knowledge of way more college
teams than he has, a much deeper database. Which is
all the Patriots have said is like, look, we got
a really good sense of what works in this league,
what's gonna work with this team. We think we have

(51:48):
like a two year window here with Brady we might
be able to win another one two Superls. We're gonna
go for it with this doubt instead of getting young
talent which is still hit or missed, yes music, not
being able to evaluate high school kids. Is that why
you didn't get the Oklahoma's job. You just admitted it
on the air, So I gotta ask you about it? No,
I just I would just say what wouldn't be like, yeah,

(52:09):
I can look, I can evaluate guys and tell you
whether or not they can play. But it's hard when
you don't have the database of evaluating a country full
of kids kids, you know, like like, oh, how does
that kid compare it to the kid in because I
haven't seen him. Um, but my process would been again
you if I was I do just like John Lynch

(52:29):
had done, Just like Fred However did when he took up.
You get guys who can and then you say, all right,
show me the five guys who were looking at and
then you fly out and you watch all five guys play,
and now you have a deep enough data basically like
I want that one first, and no one second, now,
on third, now, on fourth, now and fifth, because you
don't just lock in on one player and say that's
the one I want. And besides, nowadays in college basketball,

(52:51):
this is what Bill self is doing. He's got six
players the next year's roster that are transfers. Six, so
you don't have to necessarily evalue it all the high
school kids. You evaluate transfers. You surround yourself with people
who know what you don't know, and you play to
your strengths, which is what professionals in this radio TV,

(53:14):
what professionals in sports do. Do what you do well,
don't do what you don't do well. Patriots like, we
don't draft that well, So you know what we're not
gonna do. Draft. We'll tell you to Cleveland and to
Houston and to Buffalo. That's next broadcasting live from the
studios of Fox Sports Radio. Here's Doug Godlib. You know, honestly,

(53:38):
we're talking NFL draft, the Joe Mixon thing. Like people like, oh,
why why is the since anti Bengals because that's the
sins Anati Bengals and I have. It has nothing to
do with character issues. You do realize that, right, the
sin Sanni Bengers. You know what their reputation is. They
are cheap. They are bargain hunters. That's that's who they are.

(53:58):
If it says sale, they go in. They can't help themselves.
Why did you buy a honey, because it was on sale.
But everyone knows the guy who's like, hey, listen, let
me tell you. I got it for a deal. I
got it on Craigslist. I got it on special. I
did this last year. Remember, um, what was the what's
the sporting companies that Sports Authority went out of business?

(54:21):
Sports Authority went out of business? Right, So my son
is now eight, he was then seven. He's left handed.
He does, in fact play for space. He is a
good little baseball player. So I went in and like
this is like the last day of Sports Authority in Norwalk, Connecticut.
And I walk in and things are like like, hey,
everything is like six off. So I bought my son

(54:41):
a first baseman Smith and it's probably should be used
like a twelve year old, you know, maybe, so he
still he tries to use it now and like the
things so big, like kind of the ball sometimes pops
out of it whatever. And it's not that he knows
that a backhand. He knows how to scoop things like
not scared of the ball, but he's not great with it.
And I'm one of those like, but honey, I got
it on sale, right, trust me, He's gonna grow into it.

(55:05):
And I had that when I was I don't know
if you guys had that when your kids, like your
mom would always buy you a pair of shoes, like
a size too big. There's nothing you didn't know. When
I played basketball in college, I used to get my
shoes a size or size and a half, maybe two
sizes too small. Why because my whole life I had
either hand me down to my brother or my mom
buying shoes too big. Son grow into it, honey, and
she would always get him on sale. So all the

(55:28):
Bengals did is all they've ever done. From Michael Johnson,
who they draft in the third round, he's a first
round talent too. I mean, you can't kind of go
through their drafts. Go through their drafts and you'll see
they are bargain hunters. They were famous in the NFL

(55:48):
for being the last team to stay at a hotel
for a night before a home game. Why because they're cheap.
They didn't get new towels. Guys complain about the towel.
Why because they're cheap. They are bargain hunters. And they
saw Joe Mixing sitting there and they're like, and we
need to run back. I don't know if he's the
first round pick, Like sure, first basin, smit, that doesn't
fit a kid. Let's take you around the country, gonna

(56:12):
update you on interesting stories from people who we know.
We don't know everything, but we know people that know
what you want to know. You know, sounds like you
need a guy. I got a guy, all right, We
got people everywhere. Joe Varden covers the Calves for Cleveland

(56:36):
dot Com. He joins us on the Doug Gotlip Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Joe, forget about Lebron, forget about Kyrie,
forget about Kevin Love. Tristan Thompson, Is he no longer
part of the Kardashian clan? Is that true? He? She
was like the first baseman's glove and he I guess
he never couldn't couldn't quite grow into it. Okay, So

(56:59):
is this like, is this part of Lebron zero Dark
thirty or was there really? Was? Was this a long
time coming? Well? You know, I mean really we haven't
seen much tin uh since Sunday, uh, since the last
time they played, and and this didn't come up obviously
it's hinting the internet today. Um, you know she's been

(57:21):
around all year. Um, she's you know, been nice when
we've bumped two bumped in during the hallway. But you know,
Tristan had a bad march. Uh, there's no doubt about that.
And uh he had a much better first round playoffs series.
I don't know when they broke up, but if if
that has anything to do with it, then uh, you
know there's a higher power at work. I suppose what's

(57:44):
gonna happen with David Griffin in terms of the Orlando
Magic general manager position. I I don't think that that's
the job for him. Um, you know, if if they
if if he's interest it in it, he should take it.
I mean he's won a he's won a championship already,

(58:05):
you know, so you can't get any higher in this profession.
It's been a hard three years for him. Um. But
you know, if they win it again this year, uh,
and a chance to you know, bring back Kyle Korver
and make another run or two at it. Um, I
think he would prefer to do that. But there's gotta
be Uh, it's gonna be a mutual thing. It's not

(58:26):
just whether or not d N Gilbert wants it back.
Last year, they struggled to put Toronto way especially struggle
when they're playing up in the North. What's changed in
terms of this Cleveland Cavalier team in their preparation for
the Raps. Yeah, I mean Dougan in the four wins
in that series last year, the Calf's hammered him. I mean,
the the total marginal victory was like fifteen and a

(58:48):
half for the series, and that's when you factor in
their two losses. Um. You know, they won games going
away in that series, it was much more about just
not playing very focused in those first two in Toronto. Um.
You know, as you watched this series that starts tonight,
just keep in mind Toronto has only won one game
one ever, uh in the franchise history out of twelve tries. Um.

(59:10):
And also Lebron is one at least one road game
in seven series. So geez there, actors are almost in
a two oh hole here just heading into it. What
are they gonna do to fix some of their defensive issues.
I mean, they did give up a hundred points all
three games to the Pacers, and you could say, hey,
they struggled to guard Paul George, but it's not like
the Pacers just knock your socks off. Offensively. How are

(59:34):
they going to address some of these defensive issues. Yeah,
I mean even in February when they were great, when
they were nine and two or something like that, they
still gave up around almost a hundred points a game. Uh,
right around there, maybe even over Um, this team is
gonna beat you scoring the wall, uh and taking care
of it. So you know what you gotta do in

(59:55):
this series is just try to keep the market rosen. Seriously,
just keep his average gender thirty, you know, keep it
down around twenty seven points a game. Um, Lowry is
up and down in these playoffs series. I didn't think
he was very good in Milwaukee. Uh. If Kyrie wins
that one one battle, that this is uh, you know,
four one, four two. Joe vardon Cleveland dot Com covering

(01:00:16):
the Cleveland Cavaliers they get ready to take on the
Toronto Raptors yet again in the NBA. Plus, thanks for
being our guy in Cleveland. I got a guy, all right,
I got a guy in Buffalo. J Skirsky joins us
Bill's speed writer for the Buffalo News. Jay, what was
your reaction to, uh, the timing of Doug Walley being
let go? You know, I guess it was slightly interesting.

(01:00:39):
You don't usually see a general manager of an NFL
team let go the day after the draft. You know,
we're talking twelve hours after the draft. But uh, you know,
being around this team day in and day out, you
could see that this was sort of building and in
a move like this was kind of expected. So I'm
not I'm not really surprised by it. And this is
when they've changes in the scouting department. And again, you know,

(01:01:02):
typically it doesn't include the general manager. But I can
understand the time and no, listen, I can understand them
getting rid of Doug william I've chronicled some of the missteps,
uh that that he's made in the past, just when
you have a new coach, and I know McDermott kind
of controlled the draft room, but wouldn't have been smart
for him to have his own general manager because now
whoever you hire is going to be trying to work

(01:01:24):
with a pool of free agents that you know and
draft class that he didn't pick. It doesn't mean he
can't make it work, but it makes it more difficult though,
well a little bit, but I think you know that
by and large, the free agent work has really been done.
I mean, yes, there might be you know, some veterans
here and there that you know, you might be interested

(01:01:46):
in around training camp time or that sort of thing.
But you know, listen, the Bills have seventy players on
their roster right now after the draft, when they add
in the undrafted free agents that they're about to sign,
I mean, there's not going to be that many jobs
up for grabs right now. So think it's important what
needs to happen here going forward, and what is going
to happen is based on the power that Sean McDermott

(01:02:06):
clearly has in this organization. Right now, any GM hiring
is going to get his seal of approval, So there
should be no possibility that those two guys are on uh,
different pages, the way that we've seen Doug Waley be
on a different page with Doug marrone and with Rex
Ryan in the past. I mean that was the problem,
was that Doug Waley just had an inability to get

(01:02:26):
along with his head coaches, one of his many problems.
But uh, that's not gonna happen now with Sean McDermott. Now,
you're you could very easily question whether Sean McDermott has
been given too much power too quickly for a first
time head coach. I think that's a fair question to ask,
maybe a fair criticism of the organization. But right now,
that's the way they're going with it. And whoever this

(01:02:47):
GM is, like I said, is going to work hand
in hand with McDermott. But I ultimately think McDermott will
be the guy making the final decisions on fifty three
man roster. They they drafted Nathan Peterman granted in the
fifth round, but there are people that say, hey, look
he's of these guys, he might be the most ready
to play. Uh, Tyrod Taylor's actually been a much better quarterback,

(01:03:07):
And I think the national reputation of Tyrod Taylor is
like it was he worth the thirty million dollars that
he could have been owned, if that if the previous
Doug Whaley contract have been honored. No, but he's been solid.
What's your sense of their plan at the quarterback position. Yeah,
I think Peterman is gonna you know, push Cardale Jones,
who they drafted last year in the fourth round on
Ohio State for a roster spot. They also signed t J. Yett.

(01:03:31):
T J. Yates is sort of a veteran option. But
but really, what I think Peterman is going to be
is this new You know, when a new coaching staff
comes in, they want to bring in their guys, and
Cardale Jones doesn't have any ties to those, uh, to
these coaches that are in here now. So I think
peterman best case scenario for him this year is that
he pushes for the backup job. I would be surprised

(01:03:52):
if he lost out entirely and they didn't keep him
on the roster as the number three quarterback. But really,
Tyrod Taylor is on a one year sort of a
prove it type contract. If he has a season uh
sort of similar or worse than what he had last year,
I think there's two different ways that the Bills could
go about fixing their quarterback situation. They now have two

(01:04:12):
first round draft picks in two thousand and eighteen after
trading down with the Chiefs. That gives them some ammunition
in the draft, which you know, it's supposed to be
a good quarterback year. I think they could look there,
or if Peterman shows enough as a rookie, maybe they
give him a shot of the job. You know, it's
much too early to suggest that he's going to be
able to, you know, get into the lineup. But you know,

(01:04:34):
all of the things that you hear about them about
him from the draft analysts are promising in terms of
the pro style offense, the ability to to learn a playbook,
that type of thing. So I think it's a good
move on the Bills part. We've criticized them in Buffalo
for for far too many years of ignoring the quarterback position. Well,
now in back to back years they're rolling the dice
on a guy in in you know, in Peterman. They've

(01:04:55):
got somebody that hey, let's bring him in and see
what he has. I think it's a good, smart, low
risk investment. Yeah, be really interesting, especially heading into the
schedule of the Jets off the top, which feels like
you get a win at home, but then to Carolina
UH and to Atlanta and to Cincinnati in the first
five weeks of the season. Should be interesting for the
new look Buffalo Bills. Jay Skursky covering the Buffalo Bills

(01:05:17):
for the Buffalo News, Jay, thanks so much. I got
a guy, got a guy in Houston covering the Rockets
beat from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan Fagan joins us UH Jonathan.
We've seen D'Antoni who go against Pop in the past,
and yet D'Antoni I hasn't had much success in the
playoffs against Pop in the past. Why is this year

(01:05:39):
any different who It might not be because he didn't
have great success in the past because the Spurs were
a better team, and that seemed to be the case
throughout the regular season. They were the better team, won
three of the four games, better record by six games.
The Rockets do have that puncher's chance against this Burs

(01:06:00):
for a few reasons. Obviously, a tremendous offensive team going
against the league's best defensive team. If they get hot,
they steal a game or two. That way, there's a chance.
And James Harden produces against the Spurs, always has, and
if he causes them to break out of what they

(01:06:21):
would prefer to do defensively, which is to stay with
the Rockets three point shooters. If he breaks down the
Spurs big men and pick and roll and they have
to change, that can open up things and get it
to a more high scoring game that might favor the Rockets.
How do they how do they cover Kawhi Leonard Trevor
Go get him. We'll get him, big boy. You know

(01:06:42):
that's Trevor Reaves is one of the sort of quittessential
three and D guys. And you know the way the
Spurs run their offense. You can't You can double a little,
but there's not a lot you can do. A lot
of it has to be your guy. They'll switch something.
The Rockets do like to switch. They're not the warriors
for switching on screens, but they do some switching and

(01:07:03):
they'll do that. They'll have a few times with Eric
Gordon on him, but an awful lot of it has
to fall to Trevor RISA gonna be fascinating series. Jonathan Fagan,
Houston Chronicle beat writer, fall m on Twitter at Jonathan
Underscore Fagan, Jonathan, thanks so much for previewing that series
for us. What was a pleasure? Then? All right, there's
our guys, uh in Houston, in Buffalo, in Cleveland. Draymond

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prepared today, really really really well prepared to the first week.
I wasn't there. Ramos Ramos, you know what that was.

(01:08:12):
Ramos Ramos. You just you always. I love that, You're
always in a good mood. But you see you what
Ryan just did there? Yes, I did. I gave him
a compliment, to which he took out some sort of
backhandic coupling. Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait you're saying
I wasn't prepared, Like I walked in. There's like ten stories.
You need to look at this and we get this
and we get this. All I said was, you're really
prepared today, and Ryan Music is like, sorry, I wasn't

(01:08:34):
spared the first week. So I wasn't prepared the first one.
So I guess on some level, like I get it.
I get it like once upon a time, um, and
I don't think we have the sound somewhere Tony Cornerer
came on my radio show and he was like, hey,
I can I can I give you a compliment like

(01:08:55):
you are the best I've ever heard, I've ever seen it.
Using to tell the straight you said the best like
this Tony cornezwer He's I think he's a hundred and
sixteen years old, so he would know historically the best. Anyway,
I was the funneled. I didn't know what to say,
you know why, because the compliment is really hard to take. Look,

(01:09:17):
it's hard to take negative feedback as well, especially when
you're like, well, you know what really happened was you
don't want to just be excuse guy, but somebody gives
you a compliment, You're like, I, ah, so Draymond Green.
Somebody said Draymond Green is like a modern day, modern
day Charles Barkley. Here was Draymond Green's response, would you

(01:09:40):
consider yourself the modern day day Draymond Green? No disrespecting shock.
He's a great player. But you know, as I got older,
I watched this game because I knew it was he
was on the size and the things that he could do.
You know, I could try to ask some of that
stuff in my game, but at all okay, uh, Well,

(01:10:07):
first of all, I don't know who asked him the question.
We don't know who asked him questions. But it's not
like the first thing you have to ask is like,
all right, I'm how so right? You're are you the
accuser of the modern day Charles Barker? Like it's kind
of loaded, right, like Charles Barkley, it's a loaded thing.

(01:10:30):
If the easiest way to take it is if you're
comparing me to a Hall of Famer, a former NBA
m v P, thank you very much. Right, if you're
comparing me to the I'm not a role model, well
then that's different idea as a role model, um, and

(01:10:51):
our games are completely dissimilar because Charles Barker was a
great offensive player and a terrible defensive player. Or as
any offenses you get a Draymond Green is icing on
the cake. What he's able to do is defensively guard
every position on the floor. And somehow we look back

(01:11:13):
and and he took it as like like Charles Barkley
is a trash talker, Like Charles Barkley is not a
some historic trash talker. Not. He was a big personality
and he would occasionally talk to the fans. He threw
one through a plate glass window. Fan probably deserved it.
Let's be honest. He threw water on a little girl

(01:11:33):
one time. I think he was aiming for a fan, remember,
threw water on um. But I like, that's actually it's
actually a There's there's a million ways you could take it.
For the most part, though, Like Charles, are you like
Charles Barker, Like, you know, compared me to a Hall
of Famer is a compliment, so thank you. I don't

(01:11:53):
think our games are alike. I don't think our personalities
are all that much like, with the exception of the
fact that we're both really comfortable in front of the camera.
So I would guess that that Charles Barkley is a
loaded name, just loaded in terms of like he had
a nickname of the round Mount of Rebounds. The fact was, though,

(01:12:14):
what Charles Barker was a freak athlete, way more athletic
than Draymond Green has ever been. But both had a
weight problem in college. Both did slim down the pros
to where Barkley was really, you know, quite thin for
his build. Both are undersized big men, and Draymond even
said when I was first playing I watched him because
he was an undersized big and but he then he

(01:12:37):
goes back, But he didn't influence me. You just said
you watched him and liked some of his game, and
you two are like, that's the definition of influencing your game.
But Draymond, like Ryan Music, like so many of us,
struggle to know how to take compan even a backhanded company.

(01:13:00):
Then can be a come. I love that You're You're
like Cowherd. Really, thank you, yes, thank you. I wish
I was like Cowherd on the first and fifteen. That's
who I'd really like to be like. But I'm like that,
then we're doing something. Eight seven seven Fox eight seven
seven on Fox, uh Andy Reid had some really really

(01:13:27):
insightful comments earlier today on why they drafted Pat Mahomes
and maybe even more importantly, the process of communication with
his current starting quarterback. Obviously, the difference bet in Kansas
City and Chicago is different than just well the difference
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(01:14:11):
up with that? What's up with that? Come out to
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Um Clay Travis, who, as we mentioned um is a
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the show, an f O D and of course Colin Coward,
Rich Eysen, j T, Steve Gorman, Sports all those shows.
So what we we'd like to do is we'd like

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to pay attention and if we hear it and we
want to make a comment on it or think it's interesting,
we'll bring it back to you in something we call
what did the Fox Say? Fox Say So? Earlier today
on Colin Cowhard Show, he had Andy Reid, head coach
of the Kansas City Chiefs, on with him and he

(01:14:52):
asked Andy Reid about trading up to draft Pat Mahomes
and whether or not they've communicated with Alex Smith, their
current quarterback. That's a relationship I have with Alex. I
told him I didn't know where we were going to
take a quarterback. But I told him, nobody surprised if
we you know, we take a quarterback in this draft,
and I can't tell you exactly how high it's gonna be,

(01:15:12):
but don't be shocked. But he knows because we've taken
one every year. We know you're not really that good.
We keep trying to prove to people you're not that good,
and you keep proving to us we can't draft all
that well. The thing about Mahomes is he is the
polar opposite of Alex Smith, right, um not. Remember Remember

(01:15:37):
Alex Smith was really young when he came out, and
he was only twenty years old out of you, out
of Utah. They were undefeated r Meyer, but he hadn't
played in the pro system. And though he threw the ball,
was a lot of dinking dunks, which is what he's
kind of been accused of doing. Rightfully, So with the
Kansas City Chiefs, Pat Mahomes, that dude's got a cannon.

(01:15:58):
He's uh, he's got a hose. But he's also very
unrefined in terms of his pocket discipline, and so he's
the heir apparent. But that time is not near. At
time is in the likely long term future. Um. I
just liked the idea that he communicated with his quarterback.
It's the opposite the juxtaposition of that with what happened

(01:16:21):
in Chicago where Mike Glennon was told, Hey, come to
draft day ceremonies. You'll sign some autographs, to take some pictures.
You represent the team. We got the number three pick
in the in the upcoming draft of Chicago Bears team
that needs just about everything. It's like, we need just
what do you guys need? We need just about everything.
What's the one thing you've gone and spent a bunch

(01:16:42):
of money on in free agency? Quarterback? So what did
they do? They trade it up again. They need more athletes,
they need more talent. They trade it up, eliminating the
possibility of adding more talent, and they double down on
what they already had. That's what the Fox said. Fascinating

(01:17:09):
stuff though, That's really My kind of takeaway is not
that all these I don't know how if the forty
Niners are going to be good, if John Lynch is
some sort of genius. It seems like they did a
really good job. But it puts them into it feels
like they got a plan. Look, we gotta plan. It
might not work out, but we gotta plan. We got

(01:17:30):
a Hoyer, he's fine, and next year we got a
better shot at and frankly for Buffalo, that's a smart move.
We know we don't have the quarterback of the future.
Tyrod Taylor is good enough. Great. If not, we've got
two first round picks. We can try and get Rose
in Donald, etcetera, etcetera. Yes, music worst that they didn't
tell the quarterback they invited to the drafts party they
were going to trade up and get a new quarterback,

(01:17:52):
or that they didn't tell the head coach. Wow, uh,
probably the coach. Coach is the worst because the truth
is even though they just signed. But that's not this
is that's just a an organization where the promotions department

(01:18:12):
isn't in touch with Ryan Pace right, he's the general manager.
He's a you know, guys going to lockdown mode zero,
dark thirty, whatever you want to call it, and they
put themselves in a bunker and they don't talk to
the promotions people, the marketing people who want to Glenn
in there like that's a that's an understandable lack of communication,

(01:18:32):
but it is an indescribably bad to have a head
coach not brought in on the decision to trade up
one spot, trade out of some picks, and double down
on the quarterback position. To me um, a couple of
guys sat out of bowl games got drafted high, causing
people to freak out about it. I'll tell you why

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We'll get you ready for the playoffs, which are getting
ready to get back underway. Kind Of a weird day
yesterday right where you had the Eastern Conference semis followed
by the Western Conference first round game seven because the
time zones they had to kind of toggle him that way.

(01:19:56):
It's weird, right, weird anybody else? Yes, what music? I
get it scheduling wise, but it's something about it bothers me,
you know. I'm just that That's why it sounds weird,
Like like how it bothers you? Like like you're like, like,
I don't change your life in anyway, Like like, can
they just push it back a couple of days. No,
they got TV and not for Sunday. He needs Sunday

(01:20:18):
TV windows, need those to be occupied. I don't know.
It bugs me that you're like, all right, we're gonna
play the second round even though the first round is
not over yet. No, it's it's weird. It doesn't change anything, right,
It just it was. It was It was strange, it
was odd. It was um so Jake but got drafted,

(01:20:40):
didn't He got drafted late and Jake but of course
is a talented tight end from the University of Michigan.
He got hurt in the bowl game when Michigan lost
to um Florida State. That was a great game, that
Florida's citrus bull. I cantmera with it. I hate the

(01:21:00):
sponsorship names you want? Was the oranginal? Was the oranginvil?
For sure? Sure? For sure? Oh you miss? She wasn't
the oranginballes? Right? All right? So anyway, he got hurt
towards a C L and I think he's going to
make draft to buy the Denver Broncos, which seems like
a good fit, right John Elway coming off and a

(01:21:22):
C coming off a crew. And because he had a policy,
a career insurance policy, and his draft stock dropped, he's
gonna make over five thousand dollars in an insurance colad
So you put that in combination with Leonard Fournette and
Christian McCaffrey, two star running backs who were taken in

(01:21:44):
the top eight of the draft. For Net went four
to the Jaguars, McCaffrey went eight to the Carolina Panthers.
And the growing narrative is Jake but gets hurt much
like Jalen Um Jalen Smith from Notre Dame the year before,
or they both tear their knees and you're an idiot
to play in a meaningless ball game. You should do

(01:22:06):
with Fournette and McCaffrey. Did you don't believe me that
this is a growing narrative. Take a listen to Todd
McShay from ESPN did a great job covering the NFL Draft.
He was on with Dan Patrick earlier today. At this decent,
I do think we'll see an increased number moving forward.
You're staring at, in the case of Leonard Fournett, Christian McCaffrey,
over twenty million dollars and guaranteed money. And you've gotten

(01:22:29):
to the point playing for l s U, playing for Stanford,
if you're not playing in one of those balls, and
it's been somewhat of a disappointing year, you've you've given
everything you have and you've been, you know, a bell
cow back, and you really have nothing left to gain.
I understand it, I really do. I'm not promoting it,
but I understand it, and I can't I can't think
of one reason why you would get on their case.

(01:22:50):
And and now it proves to the future players that
this this is an option if you're not playing in
one of the big balls, and if you are, if
you are going to be a I agree that this
will become more trendy, but I completely disagree that you
can't find fault for anybody doing. Look specifically for net

(01:23:12):
and McCaffrey. They're at very fragile positions. Okay, they're running backs.
Their value has been diminished in recent years in the
Nation Football League, and you want less, not more, where
on the tires. And so if it's one game less
away from pounding when your season is done, maybe you
could make an excuse that the problem is that this

(01:23:33):
is only a portion of the story. Deshaun Watson. I
will grant you that he played in more meaningful Bowl games,
playing for a national championship. But the fact is that
Deshaun Watson had an up and down year. He turned
the ball over a ton, He was wildly inaccurate, and
instead of throwing the ball away or instead of trying
to squeeze things into tight windows. If you remember, the

(01:23:54):
big change when he played Alabama was they had a
lot more called run plays. They hected him against himself
because he's not a terribly accurate thrower. Deshaun Watson made
himself millions by playing in the ball game, and there
are a litany of other players who were drafted and
because of their performances in those bowl games, it either

(01:24:17):
solidified or even elevated their draft position. So instead of
taking a whole body look at the entirety of the
draft and what bowl games can do. Instead, we're plucking
a couple of stories Jake but gets hurt, Leonard Fournette,
Christi McCaffrey don't play, and that becomes the narrative. That

(01:24:40):
is the problem with media in two thousand and seventeen.
Right there, That's it, And the problem with media is
the problem with society. We see something on Facebook, we
think it gives us context, but it doesn't. It doesn't
whether it's something between someone and police, a man and

(01:25:01):
a woman, um two people arguing. We see a portion
of a conversation. We're taking a snippet of the story
and making it into fact, and that becomes a trend
set by players like now like hey, Leonard Fournette. First
of all, you're not Leonard Fournette unless you can run

(01:25:21):
for two hundred and fifty yards carrying three or four
Auburn Tigers with you. You ain't Leonard Fournette. Dude. Most
running backs aren't getting taken in the first round, let
alone if they sit out. And like Leonard Fournette, the
idea that he's a Bell Cow, I love this thing. Like, Hey,
Leonard Fournette could be a guy who could carry you
for an NFL season. He hadn't completed an entire college

(01:25:44):
football season without getting hurt. I'm not saying he's potty
like Tarzan, plays like Jane, but he ain't as big
and as tough and as durable as you would think.
The only year he he played thirteen games his first year,
eleven two years ago, and seven this year. Bell Cow? Hey,

(01:26:06):
do you know Bell Cow? Playing seven games with a
sprained ankle. He did exactly what other dudes in the
SEC have done when their team's crummy. They mail it
in and they're like, I'm injured, right, he's jeeveon clowney.
People told him he shouldn't play, so he played just

(01:26:27):
enough to show he's still letting. Fournette's still six and
a half yards to carry, but he ain't gonna over
extend himself. But he's unique to the running back position,
let alone unique to college football. And taking a unique
story and creating a trend out of it is the
opposite of what you're supposed to do in providing context
in the media. What we're supposed to do is go like, hey,

(01:26:50):
let her Fournett, Christian McCaffrey, they rolled the dice and
they hit. But the truth is a bunch of other
guys rolled the dice another way, playing the bowl game,
we're really really impressive. Bowl games are just showcase events
for dudes. That's all they are. They're just made for
TV games. They've always been like, oh now they mean less.

(01:27:13):
They always didn't mean anything. Maybe football guys too dumb.
I mean, like, look they're football guy, right, no one's
ever sat next to a football player when when you
don't know something on a test, no one's ever gone,
you know what I should do, and you sit next
to a football player. And even that's probably not fair
because there's a lot of football guys that are smarter
than me. But the overall narrative is football guy, I

(01:27:36):
hit my head against somebody else. But this idea that oh, well,
I play in a meaningless ball game, Well, First, like,
most guys aren't gonna get draft in the NFL draft,
A lot of good players didn't get drafted, plenty of guys.
Think about eighties seven guys who declared for the NFL
Draft didn't even get drafted as underclassman. Good luck with that, right,

(01:27:59):
So most I'm aren't gonna get drafted anyway. Secondly, the
ones that are going to get drafted, you've got a
better shot of elevating your stock than you do having
your stock drop, Dan Buy. Are you you agree or
disagree with the idea that this is a false narrative, Well,
I let me put it this way. I believe that
there is some truth to it. For what the top

(01:28:21):
of what you are saying, it's kind of with your argument.
I agree where you're only talking about five or six guys.
I always thought that way. In payment of college athletes
every week athletes should be paid. Well, there's really about
five or six athletes um on a grand scale that
could really make money off of their likeness. It's not
just none of them. See, it's a total it's a

(01:28:43):
complete joke. It's a complete sham. People skewing the numbers.
See because because let me, I'll come back to you
living making points Like here's the thing. How many college
football players can you name that are still in college?
Sam Donald's and Josh Rosen? Right, there's probably only two
that anybody can actually like, tell me that got numbered.

(01:29:03):
Name me guys that people nationally like they know? And
Sam Donald like, god bless, I think he's really good.
What did he play seven games this year? Eight? Right?
Like Rosen didn't even play play four games or something
this season? Right, So this idea that that like, oh,
all these guys names and likeness is worth something like, No,

(01:29:24):
it's not. The name and likeness is created because of
the school they play for and the promotion they get
while playing in season, and then a whole marketing department
gets behind the best players in the country and promotes
them for the Heisman Trophy. But that's really promoting their
name and likeness so that when they get done in college,
just like anybody else, they get a good job based
upon what they've done in college. Anyway. Yeah, so your point,
and that's where I agree with it. Where if there's

(01:29:46):
if I can follow along to what you're saying, an
offensive lineman, um, a guard isn't gonna just skip the
game because he may be a fifth or sixth round pick. Correct.
I mean like for a Bowl again, there will be
no reason for that player to to end missing that game.
And so when you're talking about the the top guys
like a for Neet and you're saying, hey, you look
at their track record, it's not just it's not just

(01:30:07):
Leonard fourn at the start. It's also taking everything that
came behind that. Correct, Am I am I following along
with what you're saying. You're you're falling along. But there's
there's also the like Mitch Trobinsky was really good in
the Bowl game. Like no one's ever said, like, hey,
Trabinsky playing the Bowl game, and that's one of the
reasons that he was as well regarded as as he was,
Like no one like I just it just irritates me

(01:30:30):
when we tell half of the story and we make
it out to be like, look, two guys didn't play,
they got drafted Jake, Like, look, Jake Butt's a really
good tight end. He want to be a first round picking. Correct,
he wasn't going ahead of o j Howard stop it
absolutely and Joko would have gone ahead of him for sure. Absolutely,
So I completely agree with that when you look at
someone like for Net and you talk about his injury history.

(01:30:53):
The point that I thought, and I thought that McCaffrey
is different, but maybe it works in the same way
of being star guys. It's better for our s U
in the long term and better for Stanford in the
long term for those guys to recruit if those players
have success at the NFL level. The success in that
specific bowl game, I don't think is as far reaching
for L s U as a program like L s

(01:31:14):
You could go and say, look at our guy in
the NFL doing things that nobody else has done well.
Nobody is saying, look at what he did in the
Orange Bowler, look at what he did in the Sun
Bowl against North Carolina. If you're Stanford, I think that
if you've got a guy like a Leonard four Net
with injury history, there's no reason to make it because
the benefit for L s U comes with four net
success in the pros rather than what he did in

(01:31:36):
that bowl game. You get what I mean, I get
I get what you're saying, Like, look, everybody want It's
like if you go to l s U. Now, I
was at l s U two years ago and there's
like a shrine to Odell Beckham's U right, right, because
when they succeed in the pros, it helps you recruit,
and this helps you recruiting. But I would also tell
you that like what coaches will privately tell you, like
are you kidding me? Like if i'm if I'm now,

(01:32:00):
look Stanford they played in the Sun Bowl. I guess
it doesn't matter. But I just like our whole blocking scheme,
everything we've done for two years was built around Christian McCaffrey.
Everything we've done so now in the last game of
your career, like you're not gonna play, I don't, I
don't you know that? That doesn't make that doesn't That

(01:32:24):
just doesn't sit well with me as an athlete. If
I was an offensive lineman, if I was the quarterback,
if I was on the defense side, Like, look, all
we've done is support his candidacy for the Heisman. All
we've done is support his candacy to be a top
overall pick. And it's the last game, it's in El Paso,
and you're gonna go and work out with your guy
instead of finished up with this. I don't like it.

(01:32:44):
I don't like it. But to me, but again, that's
personal feelings aside. What what I don't like, what I
really don't like, is when we as a media we
do a bad job. We tell half the story and
we go like, you know, that's it all right. Chris
Brussar joins us. Up coming next, what are the options

(01:33:05):
for the Clippers? As many people believe that thing should
be done? Blown up? And uh, with all those guys
potentially in the market, will anybody actually leave? Plus we
have I think too spectacular series Rockets, Spurs, and of

(01:33:27):
course we saw yesterday Celtics Wizards. We'll catch up with
Chris Bruce Sard from Fox Sports covering the NBA. Next,
Doug Alip Show Rose on Fox Sports Radio. This is weird.
I'm watching him on TV. I'm about to talk to
him on radio. Chris Brussar is gonna join us in moments.

(01:33:48):
Fox Sports NBA analysts and Fox Sports radio host will
catch up with Bruce Sard in just a moment. Man,
A lot of stuff is going down. Did you guys
see the washingtonastional score? Runs? Like I know, the newest
Syndergard injury is a big deal for the Mets and
he only lasted one and a third before tearing A
lot that sounds painful, sounds painful. Uh, twenty three runs

(01:34:14):
is a lot. That's a lot, right, Like that's more
than uh, that's more than many football teams score on
a football week. Twenty three runs is crazy. At some point,
I'll tell you why the Nationals are the halle Berry
of Major League Baseball if you guys ever told me that,
although now with Ryan Zimmerman hitting, maybe that that narrative changes.

(01:34:35):
All right, let's get you back to basketball as we
welcome ton f O D. Are you a f O D?
No one who knows what it means, but it's pots
time to find out. Friend of dogs, friend of Doug
means you had to been on this program through at
least two networks, if not all three, and we have
to have broken read at some point. Chris brus Sarge

(01:34:57):
has been with us. Of course I watching him on
TV right now. It's amazing to be two places at
once that you're on speak for yourself and you're on
radio with me. That's a that's a that's an amazing
gift you have. CB. I've got these special skills people
don't know about. So now the cats out of the bag.
All right. So yesterday I heard you on radio, and

(01:35:17):
if you missed, Christopers start on radio with Mark Willard
every Sunday on Fox Sports Radio one to four pm
Eastern time. Let me get your thoughts now that you
have a chance to react. The Clippers are out of
the playoffs. They won fifty games for four straight seasons,
but they lost Blake Griffin and they lost Game seven
at home in as of today, What do you think

(01:35:39):
happens next? Well, what I think happens is that the
majority of the squad uh is back. I think Doc
Rivels will be back. I think Chris and Blake Griffin
will be back. I think JJ Reddick will go elsewhere
kind of maybe even mutually. UM, but I think the
core of this group will be back. What I would do, um,

(01:36:02):
I would make some big time changes in the organization. Um.
This president coach slash coach thing just doesn't work. We've
seen it, not only here with Doc as the president
of coach. It just hadn't worked. It got worse every year. UM.
Now they've gone out in the first round back to
back years. I know they've had injuries, but I really

(01:36:23):
don't think the Blake injury is an excuse this time
because Rudy Gobert without the first three games, Gordon Hayward
was sick and played only nine minutes and Game four
for Utah, so they had their injuries as well. You
had a Game seven at home and really wasn't even
competitive outside of the first quarter and a half or so. Um.

(01:36:45):
You look at stan Van Gundian Detroit president g and
coach hasn't worked. Tom Thibodeau in Minnesota didn't work this year.
We'll see what that hap happens going forward. Mike Buos
in Atlanta president coach. There heading on a downward trend um.
The only one is Gregg Popovich, and we know Rt
Buford is a real GM where if Pop doesn't just

(01:37:07):
he's not a yes man for Pop, he's actually doing work.
So I would want to have Doc Rivers just coach
and not run the basketball operations. But we know that
that's tough for someone's ego to handle. I don't know
that that Doc could even do that, So in that case,
I'm moving on from Doc. I think there are a
lot of names out there I would I would ring

(01:37:28):
on the doorbell of Jerry West, Joe dumars Um. If
you want to go young. Travis Schlink, the assistant GM
in Golden State, Troy Weaver, assistant GM in Oklahoma City.
As far as coaches, he tore Messina on the bench.
We know he's a European legend, but you've been on
the bench with Popovich now for several years in in

(01:37:49):
uh San, Antonio. I would even look at Mark Jackson.
I don't know they here and Jerry West would would
fit together. If I don't get to Jerry West, I'm
looking at the Mark Jackson. Um, I would tend to
blow up the front office and coaching staff before I
blew up the team. I tend to agree with you.
Let me ask you this though, UM, I know that

(01:38:10):
Chris paul Is was the best player in that series, right,
and he's an incredible player, an incredible port musician, and
he plays both ends of the floor. But he's thirty one,
turns thirty two in May, and the offer the super
max that he can get two dred million dollars is
a five year deal, right, So that means at the
back end, like he's thirty six working on thirty seven

(01:38:34):
that I don't know if that ages all that well.
Do you consider finding a landing spot for Chris Paul
where he can pursue his championship and you can hit refresh. Well,
that's a great point that you bring up, because Chris
has already been I don't want to say injury from
but you know he's asked several years where he only

(01:38:55):
played you know, sixty games or so, so as he
gets older, that's probably going to increase. However, you watching play,
it's not based on athleticism. It's based on his skill,
his heart, his will, and I think he'll be you know,
a top flight point guard for the next couple of
years at least, like you said the last that fourth

(01:39:18):
and fifth year he'll be down a little bit. But
you know, look, it's tough to get to the level
even that the Clippers are at, and they're not at
the championship level obviously, but there's no guarantee if you
blow this thing up, that you ever get back to
being you know, a legitimate second round, fifty win team.

(01:39:39):
So I would bring back Chris, and I know it
probably will have to be at the five year mark.
I think if you don't offer him five and a
place where he could win, maybe offers him four. I
think he'll he'll leave just out of spite. Um, so
I think you have to offer him the five. I
would bring back Blake, but he is the caveat. I

(01:40:02):
would be open to moving him next season, not that
I have to, but if I could, I would really
try to bring back break Blake and turn him into
Paul George, whether it was a three team deal or
whether it was straight up with Indiana. I think George
is out of there eventually, and so Indiana is gonna
probably have to make some type of move. We think

(01:40:22):
he wants to be in l A Clippers are better
situation than the Lakers. I would look at him. I
think Miami is another place that's gonna be considered by
Paul George as well. But um, and then I look,
I'm gonna look at Carmelo Anthony as well. If I'm
the Clippers, you know, I think you might be able
to get him for Jamal Crawford and Austin Rivers. Now
with the situation in New York, and so I think

(01:40:45):
if I could get him the pair with that big three.
UM is the championship team. Probably not, but I think
it's better, and it's certainly sexy and your huge story.
And remember this is an entertainment business as well. Crispy
sorry joining us Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports one
NBA and let's do gotlip show Fox Sports Radio. All right,

(01:41:06):
let's get to the current series. UM, A lot changed
after the six lead or if you didn't watch yesterday,
you didn't watch the first quarter. The Wizards were up
sixteen and nothing to start the game. Mark Keith Morris
sprained his ankle. That was that was part of what
trigger to come back as well as Boston was nineteen
of thirty eight from three point range. You've got any
word on how bad that ankle is. Well, he was

(01:41:28):
saying that he plans to play in Game two and
it is a big injury obviously, UM, I don't look.
They were down three, Boston was down three when he
went out, So, as you said, it was more than
just the Morris injury. UM. But they do not have depth.
That's the Wizard's biggest problem. UM, and that's why I

(01:41:50):
losing Morris is a big deal. Even though he's not
a great player, he's a good player. UM, but without him,
their depth is really wrecked. I still think Washington is
the better team, and I think they'll win it in seven. But, um,
this is gonna be a great series, and I certainly
give Boston a good chance to take him out. I
think it's a great series that along with the Houston

(01:42:12):
series against San Antonio. Look, I love the way Houston plays,
and I think there's a they're a little bit better defensively,
uh than people give them credit. I think they're built
for two thousand seventeen basketball. But Chris, best offensive team,
best defensive team? How many times do I have to
see this? I take the best defensive team, I take,
I take pops team, don't you Yeah? I do. Look,

(01:42:35):
I would like to see Houston win. As you said,
I think they're a little more exciting. Um. And may
you know, I don't think either one of them beats
Golden State, but i'd like to see the Rockets prevail.
But I'm with you, I just don't think they're disciplined
enough to beat Povich. UM. And one of the things
with Mike D'Antoni, we saw this time and time again

(01:42:56):
when he was in Phoenix. You talk to people around
that organization at that time, what they would tell you
is that d'antoni's biggest weakness, or one of them, is
his lack of attention to detail. And you know when
you have to closely matched teams in the playoffs, that
attention to detail becomes huge. Remember back in Phoenix when

(01:43:18):
D'Antoni was there with Steve Nash of my Stylomy and
those guys. It when they played the Spurs, it would
come down to a big play here there in the
fourth quarter, and I always seem to remember a broken
a mimed assignment by the Sons defensively where the Spurs

(01:43:40):
would be able to get an easy basket or a
critical basket. Somebody gets an open look because of a
blown assignment. Um. We remember when they had the brawl,
not the brawl, but the little fight and sodomire and
boards di I'll end up being suspended, um for a
game that was critical. Um, that's attention to detail because

(01:44:01):
the Spurs players didn't get up off the bench the
Sun did. Yeah. That was last time they met was
two thousand, two thousand and seven. That was the last
time they met, and they probably would have won that
championship because the Western team was much better than the
East that year. So UM, I think in some way,
shape or form, that lack of attention to detail on
D'antoni's park is going to be a big difference maker

(01:44:25):
and Spurs prevailed. All right, I think you also you
won this argument. I think you also would just won
an argument on speak for yourself, and I know you
win arguments with Mark Willard over the weekend on Fox
Sports Radio on your own show, Appreciate you join us.
Look forward to to to seeing you either in studio
or here in person on radio. All right, but man,
good to talk with you. That's the one and only.
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(01:44:46):
On Sundays on Fox Sports Radio, Kevin Pritchard, who's the
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time as president, never spoken before. Oh my god, as president.
And what was said today by Larry Bird about Larry
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(01:45:10):
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(01:45:32):
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who still single, Dan Buyer, so doesn't have to change
his name yet. We know who here's the pants in
that and that's soon to be family. Sure, I may
not change by name, but it's like this, you know,

(01:45:54):
kind of the unofficial portion of it. Yea, is she
doing the hyphen She changed your name and all her
names her maiden name would be long enough already. To
add six more characters to it would be a nightmare.
So she's, uh, she's taking mine, taking it that way,
that traditional Dan by the traditionalist. All right, what do
you got for me? Let's start in Indianapolis. So what

(01:46:14):
you teased down earlier. New Pacers president Kevin Pritchard spoke
today about his new role and and all really we
really wanted to hear about was the future of Paul George.
So apparently the two at a meeting, Paul and I talked.
We talked about a lot of different things. In every scenario.
He talked about being here, Uh, that's important. Him wanting
to be here is important. He kept coming back to

(01:46:36):
one statement that that hits me hard and that we
all know, but he wants to win. Yeah, so to me,
that the the easy cop, the easy thing to say
is like, I want to be here. I want to
be here, but I want to win, right, And so
the the out for Paul George when eventually he is

(01:46:57):
traded is, hey, look, I did want to win. I
want to be there, but I didn't feel like we
could win if I remained. And so it's the I
wasn't lying at any point in time to Kevin Pritchard
anybody else about my desire to stay in Indiana. But
I also wasn't lying about wanting to win, and this
just facilitates that. And I think Larry Bird's decision to

(01:47:20):
step down is more to do with Paul George than
maybe anything else, because I don't think that Larry Bird
would want to put a new GM in a position
to try to rebuild or reformulate the team, depending on
what decision he would actually make, he said. Larry Bird said,
I don't think it should impact a Bird was asked
if he thinks his decision will impact George decision. I

(01:47:40):
don't think you should be back at all. Paul's gonna
do what Paul wants to do. He's gonna make that
decision when he thinks he's been best to benefit him.
That's what all players do. I know, if I was playing,
it wouldn't matter. There's people that are talking about the
timing not being right, and it has nothing to do
with that. Paul's gonna do what Paul wants to do. Yeah,
and I and I think that it's if they want
to trade him. I don't think that Larry would want

(01:48:02):
that on his watch if he knew that he wasn't
long for the job anyway. Well, what he did, here's
what's crazy about. Remember Paul George wasn't crazy about them
playing playing power forward, but Larry, but they got caught
in the league went small ball like a year or
two before. The Pacers decided to go small ball, and
Paul George fought him on it. Plus Paul George broke
his leg like they had some things go against them

(01:48:23):
that that that didn't help him. Um So I don't
know if it has to do with anybody's watch. I
do think this will create a chance to refresh for
Kevin Pritchard if they do trade, If they do trade
Paul and here's what you're saying, it gives him a
chance to create a team and with his desire, his like,
which is what Kevin Pritchard did in Portland after they

(01:48:46):
were the Jailblazers. He actually has experienced in this. Steve,
we all do, Mike Singletary, they went a lot at
Golden State. They're even winning without Steve Kerr, who won't
coach the Warriors in game one of their series with
the Ask tomorrow. This according to the San Jose Mercury News.
But Doug, what maybe most interesting is andre Iguodala and
Matt Barnes told ESPN they wish they played the Clippers

(01:49:08):
of the Conference Semis, not because of a better matchup,
but because there wasn't nightlife or energy in Salt Lake City.
They would have been rather have been in Los Angeles
during the Western Conference. Semich, Well, I look, I will
point out that those two, the two the two people
have been quoted, they've conflated the quotes. Okay, So Matt
Barnes says there's no nightlife in Utah. Now he's Matt Barnes.

(01:49:32):
Of course, Matt Barnes is gonna say that he's Matt Barnes.
So let's not take it to be all the Golden State.
Where's like, do there ain't nothing to do? It's Matt
Barnes saying there's no Obviously, as players you want to
have a bit of a nightlife. Now it's only Matt
Barnes saying that. What Andrew Goodala said was l A,
the challenges are obvious before you know what you're at
the two or three in the morning. So Iguadala was like,
it's actually better to lock in when you're in somewhere

(01:49:56):
like Salt Lake City, easier to lock in, whereas Matt
Barnes like, do there's nothing to do? Because that's because
Matt Barnes isn't playing and and by the way, his
kids are in l A and is his girl still
with Derek Fisher, so he can't go beat up on
Derek Fisher. The Celtics confirmed today the team plans out
of retiring Paul Pierce's number thirty four jersey. At another

(01:50:16):
to the rafters at the New Garden in Boston, did
you know that Paul I was Paul Paul piers In
my roommate at abc D camp, play against him his
sophomore year. He was like a center. He nobody knew
him at when he's in England high school. By by
the time between our junior and senior year, he's the
best player in California. He told me, Okay, this was

(01:50:36):
in where is abc D camp that year? I'm trying
to remember it was. I was in a at fairly
ridiculous I'm fairly Dickinson University. He told me he was
going to be the best player at the camp, that
he was going to be an All NBA player and
an All American in college. And he did it. And
he was never faster than anybody, but got passed anybody.

(01:50:58):
He's a great, great player. And uh end his career
in Los Angeles where it begins. So pretty impressive stuff.
And you said he had the I Cahol game, which
was awesome. Bank I called game, and you said, I'm
gonna work with Ryan Music in twenty years. He's five
years old right now. He also he also didn't say
He also didn't say that he get carted off in

(01:51:19):
a wheelchair or carried off into a wheelchair in the
NBA Finals and make a miraculous recovery. Uh, final one
for you you touched I Noah Syndergard earlier Vikings not
gonna pick up Teddy Bridgewaters contract. How about this story
though from Cleveland, nothing to do with the draft. Police
in Cleveland on the lookout for a woman who pulled
a gun on a barber because the barber took too

(01:51:40):
long to cut her son's hair. According to police reports, Yeah,
April fourt The woman complained to the barber a few
times before pulling out a handgun and saying, quote I
got two clips, I'll pop you end quote. The woman
under two kids then left the barbershop after the haircut
was finally completed. That's easy. I was actually at a

(01:52:01):
barbershop yesterday and they were talking about this this exact thing,
and apparently was wasn't It was like a It wasn't
actually a barbershop. It was at like a hair cutting school.
And the guy was taking like an hour. He didn't
know what he was doing. Might have been the first cut.
Right now, he's never gonna want to be a barber
ever ever. Again. Um, there's so many different I watched

(01:52:22):
there's a documentary New Michael moore documentary Where Are We
Invade Next? You got any guys seen it? It's amazing
and it talks about all these ideas that he had.
Other countries have kind of taken our ideas and their
their health care systems better, their food and schools as
best for their education is better the sex educations. But whatever,
well Michael Moore fails to notice or fails to mention,

(01:52:43):
is that of of the things that ruin this country,
it's not the kids, it's their parents. It's like a
U basketball, It's not the kids, it's their parents. And
this story only points it out. Bag it out there,
press the press? What's so good about Cleveland? Let me

(01:53:04):
ever say you want to go up a vacation in Cleveland?
Oh man um Isaiah Thomas lost a tooth yesterday? Have
any of us ever lost a tooth had a nose broken?
Especially at the two thing really kind of creeps me out.
And then the how to get fixed? I want to
get to that? I do? I want to get to that?
And a Cincinnati TV station wants to boycott the Bengals.

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Why find out next? So a since a TV station
ABC affiliate w CPO suggests people not pay money for
tickets instead use that money to donate for a cause
that helps prevent violence against women. That's because the since
Anati Bengals have drafted Joe Mixon Doug Gotlip Show Fox
Sports Radio. Um, there is nothing at all wrong with

(01:53:51):
don't any money to help women who have to help
battered women. That is a G eight suggestion that should
be made every day on this ABC affiliate. And by
the way, I've often thought any of you that pay
for season tickets are in fact idiots. To buy season

(01:54:14):
tickets to an NFL game, you have to be one
of the dumbest people on earth, and you're like, wait,
what are you talking about. Okay, to buy a season ticket,
you have to pay PSL, a personal seat license, So
you have to pay money for the right to pay money.
Does that make any sense? It makes no sense to me.
Then you have to not just pay for the eight games,

(01:54:37):
You had to pay for ten games, two preseason games
to buy tickets to a stadium. Then you have to
pay for parking two games, half of which you don't
want to go to. I have no idea why you
people do what you do like you are You're like, oh,
you're just not a true fan. No, I'm not a
true idiot. You're I'm sorry. I'm smarter than you because

(01:54:59):
I can watch every game you can watch, with exception
of the fact that I'm not stuck stuck having to
go to do I go like it's an all day
event because then, you know how it is, once you
overpay for something, you want to get some value out
of it. It's like when you go to a fancy
restaurant and somebody leaves something on their plate and you

(01:55:21):
like just feel compelled to finish that. You're gonna finish that.
Why I paid fifty bucks for that steak, Honey, what
do you know I canna eat that steak? I paid
for it. So the Cincinnati Bengals next year. That means
you have to go to the Cleveland game or you're
gonna give away the tickets. Like, no, it's for business.

(01:55:42):
I get it for business, okay, sure, so then you
just give it. Why don't you just give your better
off giving somebody two fifty bucks, then you are giving
them tickets to the Bengals Browns game because they're gonna
get annoyed. Not only do you have to pay for
the personal seat license, that's paying money for the right
to pay money to buy season tickets to priesting games

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nobody wants for the games you don't really want to
go to. Then yet to pay for parking. Then you're
in total sausage fest. Bunch of guys, several of them
want to fight. Then you have to pay ten bucks
for a beer, five bucks for a hot dog, and
you can't watch all the other games, so you can't
get up to you your fantasy with the exception of
a phone, and if you've ever had a phone in
a stadium, you know they don't work in stadiums. So

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it's a great suggestion to tell people, Hey, save money
on tickets donated for uh to anybody who to to
prevent violence against women. But because they drafted Joe Mixon,
Why because he hit a woman three years ago, Like
he paid his penance. It's over the piling on a

(01:56:53):
kid who strikes a woman when he's already been piled
on that Like, what are you doing? And while it's
grow teste to see a boy hit a girl or
a man hit a woman, it's grotesque. Shouldn't we do
the same thing for guys to get involved in drunk driving?
You got some of the Cincinnati Bengals. You get behind

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a wheel drunk, you've got a chance to kill people
with your car. So among the things I despise about
my brethren within the media telling half the story, like
pointing out Hey Letton Fornett, Christan McCaffrey didn't play, and
not pointing out plenty of guys did play in Bowl
games and actually made themselves money. It's also you shouldn't

(01:57:37):
pay money for tickets and donate money. There are plenty
of other good causes. Back tomorrow. This is the Doug
Gotliep Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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