June 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Doug reacts to comments made by Lebron James about being an NBA head coach one day. Dan delivers his "Beyer's Remorse". Doug welcomes former NBA player Olden Polynice onto the show to break down the NBA Finals. Plus, Dan takes Dough through "The Press".
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So we have spent a good amount of time reacting
to things said on other podcasts. Yes, why I payed
to Lebron's podcast It's called Mind That Game. He was
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asked a couple of interesting questions on the Last Pot
and My Guys clip. This. This is when he was
asked if he'd ever be an NBA head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Here's Lebron Lebron, what team would you coach if you
become a coach? Let me just stop that one right
now and say, please please don't coach.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Please please, there's no way.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
There's no way, guyss don't coach.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm Taylor.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Thanks for the question, but bono Taylor appreciates you for
a cond question.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
But it ain't happening.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
No team.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Zero chats zero.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
If you're counting at home, listen.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'll take him at his word, but I will also
say that there's plenty of other things he said he
would never do that he actually does. Here's Lebron talking
about the ring culture of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I don't know why I've discussed so much in our
sport and why it's the all be all of everything.
You can sit here and you tell me, you know,
and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash, you know, you know,
wasn't unbelievable, like, oh, they can't be talked about or
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discussed with these guys. Is because this guy won one
ring or won two rings or one like It's just
it's just weird to me. It's like Sam Peyton Manning
can't be in the same room with Brady or Mahomes
because he only has one ring. They don't never discuss
that in the sport or telling me that Dan Marino
is not the greatest slinger of all time, or he
can't be in the room with those guys because he
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didn't win a championship. They don't discuss those things.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I actually think it's a really smart point that he's making,
and some of that I agree with. I do think
that if you give me each individual guy, we can
have an individual conversation about that guy's story. Alan Iverson
was not a winning player, like well, I got to
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the finals once, Like that team was built very well
and unbelievably well coached by Larry Brown, who also obviously
won a championship with the Detroit Pistons with some of
the same formula. Right, you had four great defensive players
in Alan Iverson. And remember that's just like how many
teams have we seen kind of randoms Indiana Pacers, Orlando
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Magic with Hato Turklou and Dwight Howard, Lebron James with
the Caps, not a great team, but they get to
the NBA Finals out of a weaker Eastern Conference. So
it has happened before, so sometimes again depending upon the player.
More so in basketball than other sports. You know, one
great player can carry you a long way. You gotta
have a great team around you. But sometimes you're going
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to pass because you weren't on a great team every
year you played in a bad franchise, or you had injuries, whatever.
But when you played fifteen years and you can't sniff
atn NBA title, I would even say that if you
asked Charles and Charles Barkley, it was a great player.
But there was the first half of his career where
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he wasn't. He didn't dedicate himself nearly as much to
his fitness as he should have, and by the time
he did, then he was off to Phoenix, where they
came close, but they ran upon Michael Jordan. I think
each individual guy can have an individual you have an
individual conversation for why they should or should not be
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in that room with the all time greats. Do I
think that you can be an all time great and
you only have one title as opposed to some guys
having three, four or five. Of course, of course, do
I think it's subjective? Yes, I do, I really do.
But the idea of Lebron not being a coach. I
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think that Lebron is very bright. I think he does study,
does know a lot about basketball and is prepped and
understands coverages and probably could The issue with Lebron and
being a coach in the NBA, and we've said this
before about the NFL, which is, if you want to
coach at that level, you have to get over yourself
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because it is not about you, it's about everybody else.
And Lebron's a lot of things and he probably knows
this and won't say it, but he's not over himself
at all, so it won't work. You know, a guy
who deems himself to be the greatest of all time
would struggle to coach anybody else, I thought, I mean Bayer.
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You remember Larry Bird was actually a really good coach. Now,
Larry Bird here's a real thing. When he got the
job with the Indiana Pacers, they had gotten eliminated in
the first round. Isaiah Thomas was their coach. He hired
I'm not making his name up, and I'm going to
try and say without laughing, Dick Harter as his defensive coordinator.
(06:03):
That was actually the name of his defensive coordinator. And yeah,
I know and Dick Harter was once upon a time
a coach. I think of the Oregon Ducks and they
were called the Kamikaze kids. Like, he was a fanatic
as a defensive guy, fanatic. So he hired on offensive coordinator,
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defensive coordinator, coach the team understood men, understood how to
run a team. Occasionally, you know, drew up a play
or whatever, but it worked for him. In order to
do that, in order to hire somebody else to run
your offense, hire somebody else to run your defense. When
you've been a great player, you got to be a
guy who's willing to sacrifice where ego that doesn't strike
beas Lebron.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
James, No, no, it doesn't. It is interesting too. I'd
sometimes feel that, you know, these like former player hires
are just show how much of a player driven league
it is, because it's a way that maybe ownership feels
is the only way they can get through play and
maybe back then as we need to have star players
be head coaches because that's the only way we're going
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to maybe get through to some of these guys, which
is crazy to think of. I look at this Lebron
thing that he doesn't want to coach. I've heard your
comments about his ownership possibilities, you know, with a future
NBA franchise. I have the same feeling like I did,
and I know Jason Stewart knows where I'm going with
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this that I had with the inside the NBA last
year when we were talking about all these rights and
people were like, oh, man, how can you lose inside
the NBA? And I felt that the league probably just
didn't want inside the NBA around anymore because they take
so much air in the room, you know, they take
up so much air in the room, and talking about
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the league completely overshadows their main broadcast partner. And in
a way, I feel the same about Lebron James, where
if you're the NBA and he's been in the league
for twenty years, at some point, don't you just want
a league without him or a chance to grow away
from him. So, whether it be coaching, whether it be
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front office, whether it be ownership, I actually think that
the NBA would probably want Lebron to just maybe not
be around for a while, or not be around, you know,
period didn't work for Michael Jordan, like having Michael Jordan
stick around in the owner of the Hornets. I don't
know how great of a thing that was for the NBA,
except to have a team back in Charlotte. But like
the ownership run wasn't a great run. And I kind
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of have the same feeling with Lebron James that the
NBA probably just wants him to go away after a
little while.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't think they want him to go away. I don't,
but I definitely and I think they'd want him on
that broadcast. I think it only diminishes him if he's
on the broadcast, right because then when he says something
he hasn't watched, and you know, you say, like, he's
just not Barkley, Like Barkley is the only one who
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can get away with saying things that don't make sense,
or you know what team he played for, not knowing
what team a guy plays for, mispronouncing guy's names like
he just can't do it. Because Lebron's brand has always
been I'm really smart.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Sure, Well, that's the funny thing. I think that Lebron,
if he were to ever do broadcasting, would maybe go
in to try to get his pound of flesh. But
the Jordan coming in and doing broadcasting is is interesting
in the fact that Jordan never talked great about his
peers anyway, so that would contradict what Charles, Barkley and
Shaq would do. Then maybe Jordan would then give a voice,
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which is I think how they're positioning it, give a
voice to the current players from an all time legend
and the goat that many people think he is. But
Jordan was never complimentary of the old heads that are nowadays.
And I don't know if Lebron would come in and
take that role of Jordan, I think he'd be more
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of what Charles and Shack are and saying like, na,
these guys aren't it he wants he's pound a flash
after having deal dealing with it for the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But I think I thought I thought the I thought
the part of the discussion I didn't like is how
they just laughed it off and he didn't explain why.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's exactly my point. Could we play that sound again
and then I'm going to tell you my one word
answer to it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I know exactly what you're second ahead, Lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
What team would you coach if you become a coach?
Let me just stop that one right now and say, please, please,
don't coach.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Please please, there's no way.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
There's no way, guys don't coach.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm Taylor.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Thanks for the question.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
By Bo.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Taylor appreciates you for a kind question.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But it ain't happening, no team, zero chance. I speak
for all your listeners when I asked the following, because.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Because why.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Why doesn't he want to coach?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Where's the follow up? Yes, well that's where you explain
for those that don't.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And why and why laugh at the possibility of it. Well,
but like Bill Russell was a Bill Russell was a
player coach. Uh Blair Bird has been a coach. Magic
Johnson was a coach, not a good one, but he
was a coach. Isaiah Thomas was a coach. Chasing kids
a coach. Steve Kerr is a coach. Steve Nash across
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the way from you has been a coach. Once you
want to coach. And look, there isn't a wrong answer
if you don't want to do something. But if you're
going to ask the question on a podcast, it was
clearly a prepared question because they had it on a
card and I want to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it's not like they only got eight questions. There
was a reason that they chose that one to have
that moment, to have that laugh, have that clip.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That's why it feels like an inside joke between Steve
and Lebron. And the thing that lacks is why context.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No, and I my guest, there's the here's the two
things how it? If I'm being honest, I feel like
you're laughing because they feel like coaching is beneath them
or Lebron feels like coaching is beneath him, right, feels
like he's beneath him. Now the real part to me,
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Steve Nash's experience must have been so brutal and he's like,
I want nothing to do with this anymore. And Lebron
knows that's where he's going with it. But to me,
it translates as I'm Lebron, James, why would I coach?
It's beneath me? That's what it feels like. By are
you differently?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, No, Like I think that that's a part of it.
But again, like I think they did it for that
moment and that messaging, Like I, unless I'm completely missing something,
you and Jason wanted him to give like a real
reason on why he wouldn't coach, And I just don't
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think that was ever ever a part possibility for why
they chose the question am I missing something? Am I?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No? Like, no, it's just it was just they chose
the question do you ever want to coach?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, because they got they've got five hundred questions. But
so they ended up choosing that one to have that
moment so Lebron could do his laugh or Nash could
be like, I'm not even going to ask you this one,
like you like, there's you probably got five hundred questions.
How did that one to your point? Make it to
a card and make it on tape, And it's so
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they could just have that moment of being of, let's
just do let's just I'll just laugh it off and
and put it belief then put it beneath me, because
that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's and again I think that's what Jay
Stu and I are think, is like, well, what's the
point it's got to be put? Why not? Why is
it so funny? You know? Uh, it's if nothing else,
it's it's a little bit awkward to listen to if
you stop and look listen to it a second time
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like we did, because like, wait, why are they why'd
they again, that's a great you asked the great question
you can answer. You have five thousand questions. Who wouldn't
want Lebron James or Steve Nash or Lebron James and
Steve Nash to ask a question? You chose this one.
You chose to answer this one. And the only part
answer was no, never and no follow up as to
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what at like never ever ever, not player coach.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
There was never gonna be that, because that's why they
wanted this. They wanted Lebron to laugh. They wanted to
ask to be like, I'm not going to ask this,
you know sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I hate the I'm not going to ask this, and
you asked this thing. It's a personal frustration of fine.
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I don't know if we're playing olden days or not.
We got an update coming from Dan Byer on potential
injury or injury update for Tyrese Halibert. And some trades
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going on in the NBA even while the season's still
going on, including one with one of the teams playing
in the NBA Finals. But wouldn't you like just a
moment to take back a take you ad with your buddies. Well,
Dan Byer gets that moment. We call it buyer's remorse.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I engage them, but.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
There's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
All right there, dan Byer, Doug, I've branched out. I've
been taking liberties with this because I know I'm wrong
a lot, but I can't always be wrong, so sometimes
I try to look in different areas. And what I'm
remorseful about today was that I didn't bring this up yesterday.
This was a behind the scenes situation at Fox Sports Radio.
We've had some difficulties technically with our clocks here. They've
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been like a second or two off, so or engineering
department has been going crazy and trying to sort this
whole thing out. And yesterday Andrew from the fifth floor
came downstairs and Iowa Sam to his face, said hey Corey,
and it was it was so and Andrew goes, I'm Andrew,
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and it was one of those hilarious awkward moments that
I actually thought Iowa Sam called Andrew Corey for some
hidden reason because he was so confident in him, but
called him the wrong name to his face, a co worker,
and it was just it was so funny. It was hilarious,
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and I am remorseful that I didn't bring it up
yesterday as part of my love and hate. Do you
remember this, Sam? What did you feel? What he said?
It's Andrew?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Well, okay, I see the guy maybe once here, so
he's not really a coworker, he is, he works here.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Andrew's got glasses. It is bald. Yeah's Corey does not
wear glasses and is not bald.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I think Corey does wear glasses and he is bald.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
There both times.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
They're both bold with classes. Yeah, they're the different guys,
and it was just a genuine mistake. I mixed them up.
So I'm glad that you found a way to throw
me under the bus for your you're throwing you under
the bus, but a little bit, a little bit because
you know, I could have brought it up today.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You did air on National Radio EN podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, because it was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And have you ever that happened one of my assistant coaches,
I have a player named mac Recky. He's a new coach.
He keeps calling him Matt and they're like, hey, you
gotta tell coach his day's Mac not Mac, Like nah,
just see how long he goes until he pickures it out.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
It's like the Susie and a Lane thing from Seinfeld
sus So I'm glad he corrected me off the bat
and I and then I I like when I said Andrew,
I was like in my head, I was like, that's
that's all right, so Coy so like, that's not Coy
Corey and I knew it immediately, and I was like, yeah,
that's not that's not good.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
A listener chiming in here, Corvette Guy twenty eight, Guy
twenty eight did Sam look on Google for Corey's name? Ha? Ha.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The funny thing is is Jason is told the uh
Tyris Thomas story at least four times on this network.
He has no problems talking about it, but I bring
up this one interaction and you feel like I'm throwing
you under the bus. And I just I thought it was.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
We're putting out fires back here, and then all I
hear is this little embarrassing funny story to start.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And it's like, how is this tied into buyer's remorse?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (19:34):
Because I should have because I didn't bring it upful.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh it was. It was great, especially because I feel
like Iowa Sam tries to go the extra mile, you know,
and being friendly, and then they're just flat out calling
a guy by a wrong name straight to his face.
It was just it wasn't and it wasn't like an
Andy Andrew sort of thing, like you weren't even in
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the same zip code it was.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
But yeah, so Ris, listen, Dan, I respect you how
clever you were in looping this in to buyer's remorse.
So I'll give you credit for that. And I am
glad that the world got to hear this story.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I could have been remorseful about saying JJ spond would
finish outside the top ten. He had as opposed to winning,
but took the to the two.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
This drow my old corpse under the rolling bus wheels
the bus go round and round.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All right, let's uh, let's get you ready for more
NBA in a second. First, is that it Dan? Do
you have anything I want of your rope? That's it,
all right, let's get back to Dan. Get a quick
update now when we got.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Tyre's Halliburton have an MRI and his injured right calf.
According to ESPN, Pacers. Then we'll figure out a plan
for Halliburton. As Game six is on Thursday, Pacers training
their first round pick and next week's draft and the
rights to mav A Young to the Pelicans New Orleans.
That's number twenty three overall. Next week, New Orleans is
giving the Pacers back their original first round pick. In
twenty twenty six, Oilers and Panthers eight o'clock Eastern Time,
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Stanley Cup Final tonight. Panther's up three to two, trying
to go back to back as Stanley Cup champions. Oilers
going back to Stuart's skinnering goal for tonight's contest. PGA
Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan will be stepping down following the
twenty twenty six PGA Tour season. Hall of Fame skipper
Joe Tory will serve as an honorary coach for the
American League during the next month's All Star Game in Atlanta. Doug,
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back to you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
All right, thanks so much, Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's get some insight on the NBA
Finals story, the op all the polonies. Fox Sports Radio
NBA analysts spent fifteen years in the league he joined
us on the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
(21:44):
Op thanks for taking time. What's your assessment of Halliburton?
Looks like a strained CAF. I'd head MRI today, not healthy,
insisted on playing. If you're Rick Carlisle, you keep throwing them.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Out there, Well, you gotta have to, I mean, this
is the finals. But at the same time, you gotta
beware because that same cap could turn into something more serious.
So it's you know, six and one half dozen the others.
But I thought the way TJ mcconnor was playing last
night that he said, just kept playing them, you know.
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I mean, that was the wrench that they needed to
throw into that game. And those guys, you know, and
that's the problem with a lot of a lot of players,
you know, when the when the lights get bright, sometimes
it backfires, you know. But with ty Reevese, I mean,
he's been stepping up with a lot of games, so
you kind of knew he was hurt. He was definitely
(22:38):
not himself. So it was tough to watch. But you
know that's part of sports. You know, injuries do happen,
But you know, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Now, what are your thoughts on the likelihood that Oklahoma
City can keep this group together and continue to compete
for league championships.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It's a great question. I want to say it's likely
and unlikely in the same fact. But again, you know,
my favorite saying, we've seen this before, and so we've
seen this movie before. They had Harden, they had Durant,
they had Westbrook, they had a Bodker and you know,
went to the finals loss and they were not able
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to keep it together for financial reason. It's going to
come up to the same thing that whole apron first
ape and second Apron thing of the NBA. Now it
makes it very difficult, you know, but you know, we'll see.
But I think they're gonna have to make some moves
eventually because they can't pay all these guys. You know,
you can't say this guy is a superstar, as he
is superstar right now, so you gotta pay him. You can't,
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you know, say Jael and William's superstar because then you
got to pay him. Ched Holman is gonna have to
get paid. So it's just it's gonna come down to
what are they want to do. But again, Oklahoma, see
he's done that, have so many draft picks. They can
just go get some different guys.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The New York Dickson. Again, this is for reports Durant
wants to go there. They're not interested. Why would they
not be interested in.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Kevin Rant the same reason why they fired Thibodeau when
they did the mix uh A side show. I mean,
I was really happy to see them being relevant again
in the NBA. But at the same time, some of
the decisions that they make. I'm not saying that they
shouldn't have fied Thibeau. I think, you know, he's kind
of like, you know, it's tough sometimes watching him, you know,
(24:33):
mismanage the team and everything else. I get all that,
But at the same time, the timing of it was
the problem for me. You know, It's like, you can't
do it right after you lose, you know, especially with
the season they had, you know, start the next year
or something like, oh if I him before. I mean,
It's just it was just weird the timing at all.
And the Knicks have been known to do stuff like that,
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so I'm not surprised at all. I mean, why wouldn't
you want Kevin Durant, I'm I'm assumer is probably because
of that asking Pricet, you know, because I know coll
Anthony Towns is probably odd Man's out right now. But
I don't think they want to give up either Michel
Bridges or og Ananobi. But one of those guys is
gonna have to go in any trade. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Obviously, as you said, you wouldn't have traded you, you
went have fired Tom Thibodeau. They have been able to
get a head coach, yet who should they hire? Who's
who's the best guy for them to hire?
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Well, the fact that they went after Jason Kidd tells
you a lot. You know. It's like they were just
you know, we're making this, you know this thing right
now where we fired Thibodeau, so you know, to to
appease a fan base, we had to make a splash.
And but you can't go after people that are already on
the contract. You went after Tibodau, I mean, after Jayson
Kid and Hem, which is insane. And then now all
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of a sudden, you you double back to Taylor Jenkins
and Mike Brown. I mean that should have been your
starting two right there. You know this, see, But at
the same time, I don't Taylor Jenkins to me is
probably the only one that makes sense like that. But
the most obvious one is the one that I don't
know if they're ever gonna get is Mike Malone. To me,
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that's the guy that they need. And so if they're
not willing to do something like that, because if you
rehash Mike Brown, you're gonna have the same issues that
Sacramento Kings had because after a while he wears on players.
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I guess my question why not Jevan Gundhi, thank
you somebody.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Like that, But I don't know Van Gundy. Yeah, Ben
Gunnish with the clip is right now, I could see that,
but again bring him back with this kind of talent. Yeah,
that makes some sense. But the word around right now
with a lot of teams that around the nbas if,
some of these guys are not able to make changes,
you know, with the current players, you know, they're stuck
(26:56):
in their way. Perfect example. I mean, I love that
man to death, but Pop a bitch. For all his
greatness and all that, I think he even realized that,
you know what, I think, I'm a little I've grown
this league and so they got to get you know,
certain times of coaches now that can relate to these guys.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You know, yeah, I agree some of his relating, but
you have to relate while still being able to coach them.
Owen Polinies getting yeah, yeah, it's got to do both.
Like it, just relating doesn't work, just coaching doesn't work.
Got to be able to do both that works, and
then you have to have one. And it's really hard
to fire Tim Tom Thibodeau because he hasn't won deep
in the playoffs and then not hire somebody who has.
(27:37):
So that's what at least I get about Jason Kidd
and some of the other guys, is at least somebody's
been to the NBA Finals before as a player and
as a coach. Op joins us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show, what do you do if you're the Lakers?
And I say that because it's really hard to have
more than one guy who's not a strong defender on
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the floor at once. There's three best offensive players are
all poor defenders. Luca hadn't played any defense, Lebron doesn't anymore.
And you know, then you have God, what's the why
am I forgetting his name from Wichita State and Oklahoma?
Who's their their third and leading scorer, Austin Reeves. Yeah,
(28:21):
Austin Reeves, what do you do with your Lakers and
that's your three best offensive players?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
You telling the West Oklahoma seates Thunder and watch other teams.
I mean, Gills Alexander is the MVP and top score
and everything else. He gets down their play defense scraps.
It's a mindset. You can't keep rewarding people for stupidity,
or you can't keep reporting people for lack of effort.
(28:49):
I'm tired of it. It's ridiculous to me. Yes, these
guys are great players offensively, but playing defensive mindset. You
just have to commit to it. But if you keep
allowing people to or I can't play defense, they're not
good defenders. Of course they're gonna be that way. You know,
take some of that money away from them and see
how much defense they played then. So I don't buy
(29:09):
into all that stuff because the reason I say that
is this, Austin Reason at some point in time played defense.
That's how he got into the NBA. At some point
in time, Lebron played defense. At some point in time,
Luca played defense. They're just not being consistent with it
because they're relying so much on the offense and the
mindset that all I can do now is offense, and
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that's not fair to the game. That's not fair to
the teams, that's not fair to the fans. That's why
they lost because I knew they weren't gonna do well
because everybody kept saying that they're not good defenders, so
they bought into it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Steven A said earlier today that NBA players don't feel
safe in Memphis. Do you what do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Kind?
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Oh? I really issues with him any and his commons though,
But it's like another athenine statement by an asenine individual.
It's like ridiculous, How are you gonna make that dumb statement?
You might as well say that about every other city
you go to. That's absurd to me. I mean, there's
never been issues in Memphis, so now, how all of
(30:18):
a sudden that there's a Memphis problem. He's just looking
for clickbait, that's all that is.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Any thought in your mind that Indiana comes back wins
this series.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yes, I believe it. I mean it's based on this
MRII specifically, but I do believe Indiana's gonna win games
six on Thursday, and it's name Sevens are always a
freetball and so to me, it's going to be fun
to see. And I believe Indiana can win this series.
(30:51):
I mean, they've played well outside of the turnovers and
some of these crazy whistles we get at inopportunity times,
they really played well, played solid, So I'm not surprised,
you know, and it's been really good basketball to watch.
Again outside of the turnover because some of those turnovers
are not unforced either. The unforced ones kill Indiana, but
(31:14):
the ones that the referee is allowed to happen, you know,
guys getting hitting the head and everything else. You know,
that's neither that's you know, that's what I'm really talking about.
But at the same time, they have as good a
shot as any And again, all the pressure has been on,
okay see because they have to win. They're the number
one seed, so they have to win. Adytis has been
(31:37):
playing with free money all year.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
OPI, You're the best man. I appreciate you joining us.
Thanks so much for being our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Jay Stu.
I told you I would give you the floor on
steven A and we discussed it Steve and A doing
(32:20):
playing solitaire and then being defiant and then lying about
saying it was during a break and you thought this
was the worst thing ever, and why.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I definitely didn't think it was the worst thing ever.
I think it's a commentary on today's day and age,
in the age of social media, when people have access
to you and to post about you. Fighting back against
bad optics is a loser's game. It makes you look foolish.
(32:55):
So you either have to eat the bad optics or
you need to acknowledge that you're going to try to
change course. From the very beginning, when he saw that
viral video of somebody showing him playing solitaire in the
middle of a game, he either could have done one
of two things, ignore it or acknowledge it. This is
(33:16):
a bad look, my bad. I get paid twenty million
dollars to talk about a sport that I'm playing solitaire
while watching, as opposed to I get multitask I'm good
at multitasking, and it was a timeout when it wasn't
a timeout. Bad optics are bad optics for a reason,
and the proof is in the putting. As far as
(33:36):
I'm concerned, I consume a lot of Stephen A. Smith.
I watch First Take every day. I watch a lot
of the clips that he does with these political commentators
every night. His bandwidth is completely full, and his work
on the air has declined, it's gotten worse. So your
bad optics are confirmed by your performance.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Fair enough, fair enough with that. Let's get to the press.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
The pressin Buyer.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I had no problem with it. Everybody's up in arms.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I really again, I think I think the thing is
Dan again.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I know what the thing is.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, no, no, I don't I don't have what's me.
I'm on my phone. I'm on my phone constantly. It's
more somebody calls you on it, and then you just
do the loud everybody else's I don't care. I'm blah
blah blah blah blah. When we're like, oh oh hey, no,
(34:43):
ability to read the room and the other part Dan
is again, Let's just be totally candid here. He's working
a place everybody knows how much he makes. When you
make that much more than everybody else you work with,
there are higher expectations of you. And so whether it
is real or and in distraction or it is not,
(35:04):
his response is all part of when you're making twenty
million dollars a year anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Sure, but that's not gonna like I mean like ESPN
coming out winners for this. Let's see what stephen A says.
Let's see how Stephen A responds. He's even more.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
They are, they are and they aren't though because he is.
For a long time, the NBA didn't want him on
those wrap around shows. Then he gets on those shows,
the show is not particularly good whatever. That's not all
his fault, period, but it hurts your credibility, whether it's
real or not, Like it doesn't actually matter if you're
(35:43):
playing solitaire like whatever. He's not breaking down game film.
He couldn't tell you what the pistol stuff that exactly.
That's not what he does, not what he does, but
the optics of it, how it looks when you're commentating
on the when you're commenting on coaches, performance plays, performance,
and you're not paying attention and you're making that much money,
(36:04):
and the ESPN had to talk the NBA and letting
him on that pre post halftime show don't look good.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Go ahead, I'm sorry, Like, think of what you want
about off one out soon. I know Buyer's got some
issues with that publication, so do I for their editorial
choices sometimes, but I do want to give them credit
for this headline, or maybe it was the subheadline. We
should not have to suffer through Steven A's boredom with
the NBA. That's the optics. You don't care about this
(36:32):
sport that you're paid to cover.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, that's the other part too. It is the NBA
does have a perception of being hard to watch, and
then when the guy who makes his living commenting on
the NBA is not pulling pull attention, it doesn't exactly
help anyway.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Sorry, Dan, that's okay. I and I talked a little
bit about this on the Sunday show that it did
with Mike Carmen. You can catch the podcast for that
at Fox Sports Radio dot com. There's my plug. Fifteenth.
Mark your calendars. That's when the Los Angeles Chargers will
be revealing their brand new alternate uniforms. There have been
hints it may be back to the dark Navy Dan
(37:13):
Fouts era mid to late eighties, not like the Royal
blue of Fouts, but then more into the Stan Humphreys,
you know, Super Bowl Run, like that sort of Navy blue,
which they've had an alternate of. But this is going
to be a new alternate. But it will fully be
unveiled July fifteenth. A teaser video of it was released
(37:33):
today by the Chargers social media accounts.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Let's create some other uniforms that are clearly not as
good as they're all whites or they're powder blues by
all means.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
That is true, but they do have a good history
of unis there's no doubt about that. Hall of Fame
Skipper Joe Torrey will serve as an honorary coach for
the American League during next month's All Star Game in Atlanta. Yeah,
Aaron Boone staff is going to be him, Stephen Vaue
to the Guardians Skipper and Tory. The National League Dave
(38:03):
Roberts squad will consist of Clayton McCullough of the Marlins,
who was the Dodgers first base coach for the previous
four seasons, and the Braves Brian Snitker as the All
Star Game is in Atlanta. But I like that Joe
Torre is going to have a role. It's not just
had trotting him out there.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, Joe Tory. I feel like that's from Star Wars.
That's the name I have not heard in quite a
long time.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Played in Atlanta. Uh managed jn Kenobi.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
He's the old He's the old ben Kenobi. That's thank
you for.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Having ben Olympic gold Obi Wan Kenobi Olympic gold medalist
Noah Lyles is backed out of a race.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
By the way, have you ever heard Jay Stews's take
on how ben Kenobi changed it to Obi wan Kenoby,
Like you're trying to hide from the Empire and all
you do is is changed ben Kenoby to Obi wan Kenobi,
and you're surprised when they find you.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
The entire universe is hunting down the last of the Jedies.
I'm gonna hide on Tattooine and I'm just gonna change
my first name and they won't they won't know.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
It's like Ted Kazinski changing his name to like Melvin
Kazinski and last name is still pretty recognizable.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Unibomber reference. Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Interesting wow calling someone Corey with her name's Andrew Noah Lyles,
the Olympic gold medalist, backed out of a race in
Times Square against Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill because of
personal reasons. Lyle said that the fifty yard sprint was
actually supposed to take the place this weekend. It will
(39:42):
not go on as scheduled. Just what the Dolphins wanted
their star wide receiver to be doing, and that's the post.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
By get out there and pressed.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
All right, we got hockey tonight. We'll recap it tomorrow.
We'll get you ready for whatever. Game six of the
NBA Finals not got Leap show. Fox were tradio
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So we have spent a good amount of time reacting
to things said on other podcasts. Yes, why I payed
to Lebron's podcast It's called Mind That Game. He was
(01:06):
asked a couple of interesting questions on the Last Pot
and My Guys clip. This. This is when he was
asked if he'd ever be an NBA head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Here's Lebron Lebron, what team would you coach if you
become a coach? Let me just stop that one right
now and say, please please don't coach.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Please please, there's no way.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
There's no way, guyss don't coach.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm Taylor.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Thanks for the question, but bono Taylor appreciates you for
a cond question.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
But it ain't happening.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
No team.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Zero chats zero.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
If you're counting at home, listen.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'll take him at his word, but I will also
say that there's plenty of other things he said he
would never do that he actually does. Here's Lebron talking
about the ring culture of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I don't know why I've discussed so much in our
sport and why it's the all be all of everything.
You can sit here and you tell me, you know,
and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash, you know, you know,
wasn't unbelievable, like, oh, they can't be talked about or
(02:12):
discussed with these guys. Is because this guy won one
ring or won two rings or one like It's just
it's just weird to me. It's like Sam Peyton Manning
can't be in the same room with Brady or Mahomes
because he only has one ring. They don't never discuss
that in the sport or telling me that Dan Marino
is not the greatest slinger of all time, or he
can't be in the room with those guys because he
(02:33):
didn't win a championship. They don't discuss those things.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I actually think it's a really smart point that he's making,
and some of that I agree with. I do think
that if you give me each individual guy, we can
have an individual conversation about that guy's story. Alan Iverson
was not a winning player, like well, I got to
(02:58):
the finals once, Like that team was built very well
and unbelievably well coached by Larry Brown, who also obviously
won a championship with the Detroit Pistons with some of
the same formula. Right, you had four great defensive players
in Alan Iverson. And remember that's just like how many
teams have we seen kind of randoms Indiana Pacers, Orlando
(03:21):
Magic with Hato Turklou and Dwight Howard, Lebron James with
the Caps, not a great team, but they get to
the NBA Finals out of a weaker Eastern Conference. So
it has happened before, so sometimes again depending upon the player.
More so in basketball than other sports. You know, one
great player can carry you a long way. You gotta
have a great team around you. But sometimes you're going
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to pass because you weren't on a great team every
year you played in a bad franchise, or you had injuries, whatever.
But when you played fifteen years and you can't sniff
atn NBA title, I would even say that if you
asked Charles and Charles Barkley, it was a great player.
But there was the first half of his career where
(04:06):
he wasn't. He didn't dedicate himself nearly as much to
his fitness as he should have, and by the time
he did, then he was off to Phoenix, where they
came close, but they ran upon Michael Jordan. I think
each individual guy can have an individual you have an
individual conversation for why they should or should not be
(04:26):
in that room with the all time greats. Do I
think that you can be an all time great and
you only have one title as opposed to some guys
having three, four or five. Of course, of course, do
I think it's subjective? Yes, I do, I really do.
But the idea of Lebron not being a coach. I
(04:51):
think that Lebron is very bright. I think he does study,
does know a lot about basketball and is prepped and
understands coverages and probably could The issue with Lebron and
being a coach in the NBA, and we've said this
before about the NFL, which is, if you want to
coach at that level, you have to get over yourself
(05:13):
because it is not about you, it's about everybody else.
And Lebron's a lot of things and he probably knows
this and won't say it, but he's not over himself
at all, so it won't work. You know, a guy
who deems himself to be the greatest of all time
would struggle to coach anybody else, I thought, I mean Bayer.
(05:37):
You remember Larry Bird was actually a really good coach. Now,
Larry Bird here's a real thing. When he got the
job with the Indiana Pacers, they had gotten eliminated in
the first round. Isaiah Thomas was their coach. He hired
I'm not making his name up, and I'm going to
try and say without laughing, Dick Harter as his defensive coordinator.
(06:03):
That was actually the name of his defensive coordinator. And yeah,
I know and Dick Harter was once upon a time
a coach. I think of the Oregon Ducks and they
were called the Kamikaze kids. Like, he was a fanatic
as a defensive guy, fanatic. So he hired on offensive coordinator,
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defensive coordinator, coach the team understood men, understood how to
run a team. Occasionally, you know, drew up a play
or whatever, but it worked for him. In order to
do that, in order to hire somebody else to run
your offense, hire somebody else to run your defense. When
you've been a great player, you got to be a
guy who's willing to sacrifice where ego that doesn't strike
beas Lebron.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
James, No, no, it doesn't. It is interesting too. I'd
sometimes feel that, you know, these like former player hires
are just show how much of a player driven league
it is, because it's a way that maybe ownership feels
is the only way they can get through play and
maybe back then as we need to have star players
be head coaches because that's the only way we're going
(07:05):
to maybe get through to some of these guys, which
is crazy to think of. I look at this Lebron
thing that he doesn't want to coach. I've heard your
comments about his ownership possibilities, you know, with a future
NBA franchise. I have the same feeling like I did,
and I know Jason Stewart knows where I'm going with
(07:27):
this that I had with the inside the NBA last
year when we were talking about all these rights and
people were like, oh, man, how can you lose inside
the NBA? And I felt that the league probably just
didn't want inside the NBA around anymore because they take
so much air in the room, you know, they take
up so much air in the room, and talking about
(07:48):
the league completely overshadows their main broadcast partner. And in
a way, I feel the same about Lebron James, where
if you're the NBA and he's been in the league
for twenty years, at some point, don't you just want
a league without him or a chance to grow away
from him. So, whether it be coaching, whether it be
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front office, whether it be ownership, I actually think that
the NBA would probably want Lebron to just maybe not
be around for a while, or not be around, you know,
period didn't work for Michael Jordan, like having Michael Jordan
stick around in the owner of the Hornets. I don't
know how great of a thing that was for the NBA,
except to have a team back in Charlotte. But like
the ownership run wasn't a great run. And I kind
(08:31):
of have the same feeling with Lebron James that the
NBA probably just wants him to go away after a
little while.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't think they want him to go away. I don't,
but I definitely and I think they'd want him on
that broadcast. I think it only diminishes him if he's
on the broadcast, right because then when he says something
he hasn't watched, and you know, you say, like, he's
just not Barkley, Like Barkley is the only one who
(08:57):
can get away with saying things that don't make sense,
or you know what team he played for, not knowing
what team a guy plays for, mispronouncing guy's names like
he just can't do it. Because Lebron's brand has always
been I'm really smart.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Sure, Well, that's the funny thing. I think that Lebron,
if he were to ever do broadcasting, would maybe go
in to try to get his pound of flesh. But
the Jordan coming in and doing broadcasting is is interesting
in the fact that Jordan never talked great about his
peers anyway, so that would contradict what Charles, Barkley and
Shaq would do. Then maybe Jordan would then give a voice,
(09:34):
which is I think how they're positioning it, give a
voice to the current players from an all time legend
and the goat that many people think he is. But
Jordan was never complimentary of the old heads that are nowadays.
And I don't know if Lebron would come in and
take that role of Jordan, I think he'd be more
(09:55):
of what Charles and Shack are and saying like, na,
these guys aren't it he wants he's pound a flash
after having deal dealing with it for the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But I think I thought I thought the I thought
the part of the discussion I didn't like is how
they just laughed it off and he didn't explain why.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's exactly my point. Could we play that sound again
and then I'm going to tell you my one word
answer to it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I know exactly what you're second ahead, Lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
What team would you coach if you become a coach?
Let me just stop that one right now and say, please, please,
don't coach.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Please please, there's no way.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
There's no way, guys don't coach.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm Taylor.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Thanks for the question.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
By Bo.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Taylor appreciates you for a kind question.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But it ain't happening, no team, zero chance. I speak
for all your listeners when I asked the following, because.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Because why.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Why doesn't he want to coach?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Where's the follow up? Yes, well that's where you explain
for those that don't.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And why and why laugh at the possibility of it. Well,
but like Bill Russell was a Bill Russell was a
player coach. Uh Blair Bird has been a coach. Magic
Johnson was a coach, not a good one, but he
was a coach. Isaiah Thomas was a coach. Chasing kids
a coach. Steve Kerr is a coach. Steve Nash across
(11:25):
the way from you has been a coach. Once you
want to coach. And look, there isn't a wrong answer
if you don't want to do something. But if you're
going to ask the question on a podcast, it was
clearly a prepared question because they had it on a
card and I want to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it's not like they only got eight questions. There
was a reason that they chose that one to have
that moment, to have that laugh, have that clip.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That's why it feels like an inside joke between Steve
and Lebron. And the thing that lacks is why context.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No, and I my guest, there's the here's the two
things how it? If I'm being honest, I feel like
you're laughing because they feel like coaching is beneath them
or Lebron feels like coaching is beneath him, right, feels
like he's beneath him. Now the real part to me,
(12:16):
Steve Nash's experience must have been so brutal and he's like,
I want nothing to do with this anymore. And Lebron
knows that's where he's going with it. But to me,
it translates as I'm Lebron, James, why would I coach?
It's beneath me? That's what it feels like. By are
you differently?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, No, Like I think that that's a part of it.
But again, like I think they did it for that
moment and that messaging, Like I, unless I'm completely missing something,
you and Jason wanted him to give like a real
reason on why he wouldn't coach, And I just don't
(12:58):
think that was ever ever a part possibility for why
they chose the question am I missing something? Am I?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No? Like, no, it's just it was just they chose
the question do you ever want to coach?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, because they got they've got five hundred questions. But
so they ended up choosing that one to have that
moment so Lebron could do his laugh or Nash could
be like, I'm not even going to ask you this one,
like you like, there's you probably got five hundred questions.
How did that one to your point? Make it to
a card and make it on tape, And it's so
(13:31):
they could just have that moment of being of, let's
just do let's just I'll just laugh it off and
and put it belief then put it beneath me, because
that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's and again I think that's what Jay
Stu and I are think, is like, well, what's the
point it's got to be put? Why not? Why is
it so funny? You know? Uh, it's if nothing else,
it's it's a little bit awkward to listen to if
you stop and look listen to it a second time
(14:01):
like we did, because like, wait, why are they why'd
they again, that's a great you asked the great question
you can answer. You have five thousand questions. Who wouldn't
want Lebron James or Steve Nash or Lebron James and
Steve Nash to ask a question? You chose this one.
You chose to answer this one. And the only part
answer was no, never and no follow up as to
(14:24):
what at like never ever ever, not player coach.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
There was never gonna be that, because that's why they
wanted this. They wanted Lebron to laugh. They wanted to
ask to be like, I'm not going to ask this,
you know sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I hate the I'm not going to ask this, and
you asked this thing. It's a personal frustration of fine.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
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show here on Fox Sports Radio. We got Olden polonies upcoming.
I don't know if we're playing olden days or not.
We got an update coming from Dan Byer on potential
injury or injury update for Tyrese Halibert. And some trades
(16:01):
going on in the NBA even while the season's still
going on, including one with one of the teams playing
in the NBA Finals. But wouldn't you like just a
moment to take back a take you ad with your buddies. Well,
Dan Byer gets that moment. We call it buyer's remorse.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I engage them, but.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
There's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
All right there, dan Byer, Doug, I've branched out. I've
been taking liberties with this because I know I'm wrong
a lot, but I can't always be wrong, so sometimes
I try to look in different areas. And what I'm
remorseful about today was that I didn't bring this up yesterday.
This was a behind the scenes situation at Fox Sports Radio.
We've had some difficulties technically with our clocks here. They've
(16:51):
been like a second or two off, so or engineering
department has been going crazy and trying to sort this
whole thing out. And yesterday Andrew from the fifth floor
came downstairs and Iowa Sam to his face, said hey Corey,
and it was it was so and Andrew goes, I'm Andrew,
(17:15):
and it was one of those hilarious awkward moments that
I actually thought Iowa Sam called Andrew Corey for some
hidden reason because he was so confident in him, but
called him the wrong name to his face, a co worker,
and it was just it was so funny. It was hilarious,
(17:37):
and I am remorseful that I didn't bring it up
yesterday as part of my love and hate. Do you
remember this, Sam? What did you feel? What he said?
It's Andrew?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Well, okay, I see the guy maybe once here, so
he's not really a coworker, he is, he works here.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Andrew's got glasses. It is bald. Yeah's Corey does not
wear glasses and is not bald.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I think Corey does wear glasses and he is bald.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
There both times.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
They're both bold with classes. Yeah, they're the different guys,
and it was just a genuine mistake. I mixed them up.
So I'm glad that you found a way to throw
me under the bus for your you're throwing you under
the bus, but a little bit, a little bit because
you know, I could have brought it up today.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You did air on National Radio EN podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, because it was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And have you ever that happened one of my assistant coaches,
I have a player named mac Recky. He's a new coach.
He keeps calling him Matt and they're like, hey, you
gotta tell coach his day's Mac not Mac, Like nah,
just see how long he goes until he pickures it out.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
It's like the Susie and a Lane thing from Seinfeld
sus So I'm glad he corrected me off the bat
and I and then I I like when I said Andrew,
I was like in my head, I was like, that's
that's all right, so Coy so like, that's not Coy
Corey and I knew it immediately, and I was like, yeah,
that's not that's not good.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
A listener chiming in here, Corvette Guy twenty eight, Guy
twenty eight did Sam look on Google for Corey's name? Ha? Ha.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The funny thing is is Jason is told the uh
Tyris Thomas story at least four times on this network.
He has no problems talking about it, but I bring
up this one interaction and you feel like I'm throwing
you under the bus. And I just I thought it was.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
We're putting out fires back here, and then all I
hear is this little embarrassing funny story to start.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And it's like, how is this tied into buyer's remorse?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (19:34):
Because I should have because I didn't bring it upful.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh it was. It was great, especially because I feel
like Iowa Sam tries to go the extra mile, you know,
and being friendly, and then they're just flat out calling
a guy by a wrong name straight to his face.
It was just it wasn't and it wasn't like an
Andy Andrew sort of thing, like you weren't even in
(19:59):
the same zip code it was.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
But yeah, so Ris, listen, Dan, I respect you how
clever you were in looping this in to buyer's remorse.
So I'll give you credit for that. And I am
glad that the world got to hear this story.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I could have been remorseful about saying JJ spond would
finish outside the top ten. He had as opposed to winning,
but took the to the two.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
This drow my old corpse under the rolling bus wheels
the bus go round and round.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All right, let's uh, let's get you ready for more
NBA in a second. First, is that it Dan? Do
you have anything I want of your rope? That's it,
all right, let's get back to Dan. Get a quick
update now when we got.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Tyre's Halliburton have an MRI and his injured right calf.
According to ESPN, Pacers. Then we'll figure out a plan
for Halliburton. As Game six is on Thursday, Pacers training
their first round pick and next week's draft and the
rights to mav A Young to the Pelicans New Orleans.
That's number twenty three overall. Next week, New Orleans is
giving the Pacers back their original first round pick. In
twenty twenty six, Oilers and Panthers eight o'clock Eastern Time,
(21:00):
Stanley Cup Final tonight. Panther's up three to two, trying
to go back to back as Stanley Cup champions. Oilers
going back to Stuart's skinnering goal for tonight's contest. PGA
Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan will be stepping down following the
twenty twenty six PGA Tour season. Hall of Fame skipper
Joe Tory will serve as an honorary coach for the
American League during the next month's All Star Game in Atlanta. Doug,
(21:21):
back to you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
All right, thanks so much, Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's get some insight on the NBA
Finals story, the op all the polonies. Fox Sports Radio
NBA analysts spent fifteen years in the league he joined
us on the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
(21:44):
Op thanks for taking time. What's your assessment of Halliburton?
Looks like a strained CAF. I'd head MRI today, not healthy,
insisted on playing. If you're Rick Carlisle, you keep throwing them.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Out there, Well, you gotta have to, I mean, this
is the finals. But at the same time, you gotta
beware because that same cap could turn into something more serious.
So it's you know, six and one half dozen the others.
But I thought the way TJ mcconnor was playing last
night that he said, just kept playing them, you know.
(22:18):
I mean, that was the wrench that they needed to
throw into that game. And those guys, you know, and
that's the problem with a lot of a lot of players,
you know, when the when the lights get bright, sometimes
it backfires, you know. But with ty Reevese, I mean,
he's been stepping up with a lot of games, so
you kind of knew he was hurt. He was definitely
(22:38):
not himself. So it was tough to watch. But you
know that's part of sports. You know, injuries do happen,
But you know, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Now, what are your thoughts on the likelihood that Oklahoma
City can keep this group together and continue to compete
for league championships.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It's a great question. I want to say it's likely
and unlikely in the same fact. But again, you know,
my favorite saying, we've seen this before, and so we've
seen this movie before. They had Harden, they had Durant,
they had Westbrook, they had a Bodker and you know,
went to the finals loss and they were not able
(23:23):
to keep it together for financial reason. It's going to
come up to the same thing that whole apron first
ape and second Apron thing of the NBA. Now it
makes it very difficult, you know, but you know, we'll see.
But I think they're gonna have to make some moves
eventually because they can't pay all these guys. You know,
you can't say this guy is a superstar, as he
is superstar right now, so you gotta pay him. You can't,
(23:45):
you know, say Jael and William's superstar because then you
got to pay him. Ched Holman is gonna have to
get paid. So it's just it's gonna come down to
what are they want to do. But again, Oklahoma, see
he's done that, have so many draft picks. They can
just go get some different guys.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The New York Dickson. Again, this is for reports Durant
wants to go there. They're not interested. Why would they
not be interested in.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Kevin Rant the same reason why they fired Thibodeau when
they did the mix uh A side show. I mean,
I was really happy to see them being relevant again
in the NBA. But at the same time, some of
the decisions that they make. I'm not saying that they
shouldn't have fied Thibeau. I think, you know, he's kind
of like, you know, it's tough sometimes watching him, you know,
(24:33):
mismanage the team and everything else. I get all that,
But at the same time, the timing of it was
the problem for me. You know, It's like, you can't
do it right after you lose, you know, especially with
the season they had, you know, start the next year
or something like, oh if I him before. I mean,
It's just it was just weird the timing at all.
And the Knicks have been known to do stuff like that,
(24:55):
so I'm not surprised at all. I mean, why wouldn't
you want Kevin Durant, I'm I'm assumer is probably because
of that asking Pricet, you know, because I know coll
Anthony Towns is probably odd Man's out right now. But
I don't think they want to give up either Michel
Bridges or og Ananobi. But one of those guys is
gonna have to go in any trade. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Obviously, as you said, you wouldn't have traded you, you
went have fired Tom Thibodeau. They have been able to
get a head coach, yet who should they hire? Who's
who's the best guy for them to hire?
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Well, the fact that they went after Jason Kidd tells
you a lot. You know. It's like they were just
you know, we're making this, you know this thing right
now where we fired Thibodeau, so you know, to to
appease a fan base, we had to make a splash.
And but you can't go after people that are already on
the contract. You went after Tibodau, I mean, after Jayson
Kid and Hem, which is insane. And then now all
(25:51):
of a sudden, you you double back to Taylor Jenkins
and Mike Brown. I mean that should have been your
starting two right there. You know this, see, But at
the same time, I don't Taylor Jenkins to me is
probably the only one that makes sense like that. But
the most obvious one is the one that I don't
know if they're ever gonna get is Mike Malone. To me,
(26:12):
that's the guy that they need. And so if they're
not willing to do something like that, because if you
rehash Mike Brown, you're gonna have the same issues that
Sacramento Kings had because after a while he wears on players.
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I guess my question why not Jevan Gundhi, thank
you somebody.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Like that, But I don't know Van Gundy. Yeah, Ben
Gunnish with the clip is right now, I could see that,
but again bring him back with this kind of talent. Yeah,
that makes some sense. But the word around right now
with a lot of teams that around the nbas if,
some of these guys are not able to make changes,
you know, with the current players, you know, they're stuck
(26:56):
in their way. Perfect example. I mean, I love that
man to death, but Pop a bitch. For all his
greatness and all that, I think he even realized that,
you know what, I think, I'm a little I've grown
this league and so they got to get you know,
certain times of coaches now that can relate to these guys.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You know, yeah, I agree some of his relating, but
you have to relate while still being able to coach them.
Owen Polinies getting yeah, yeah, it's got to do both.
Like it, just relating doesn't work, just coaching doesn't work.
Got to be able to do both that works, and
then you have to have one. And it's really hard
to fire Tim Tom Thibodeau because he hasn't won deep
in the playoffs and then not hire somebody who has.
(27:37):
So that's what at least I get about Jason Kidd
and some of the other guys, is at least somebody's
been to the NBA Finals before as a player and
as a coach. Op joins us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show, what do you do if you're the Lakers?
And I say that because it's really hard to have
more than one guy who's not a strong defender on
(27:58):
the floor at once. There's three best offensive players are
all poor defenders. Luca hadn't played any defense, Lebron doesn't anymore.
And you know, then you have God, what's the why
am I forgetting his name from Wichita State and Oklahoma?
Who's their their third and leading scorer, Austin Reeves. Yeah,
(28:21):
Austin Reeves, what do you do with your Lakers and
that's your three best offensive players?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
You telling the West Oklahoma seates Thunder and watch other teams.
I mean, Gills Alexander is the MVP and top score
and everything else. He gets down their play defense scraps.
It's a mindset. You can't keep rewarding people for stupidity,
or you can't keep reporting people for lack of effort.
(28:49):
I'm tired of it. It's ridiculous to me. Yes, these
guys are great players offensively, but playing defensive mindset. You
just have to commit to it. But if you keep
allowing people to or I can't play defense, they're not
good defenders. Of course they're gonna be that way. You know,
take some of that money away from them and see
how much defense they played then. So I don't buy
(29:09):
into all that stuff because the reason I say that
is this, Austin Reason at some point in time played defense.
That's how he got into the NBA. At some point
in time, Lebron played defense. At some point in time,
Luca played defense. They're just not being consistent with it
because they're relying so much on the offense and the
mindset that all I can do now is offense, and
(29:32):
that's not fair to the game. That's not fair to
the teams, that's not fair to the fans. That's why
they lost because I knew they weren't gonna do well
because everybody kept saying that they're not good defenders, so
they bought into it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Steven A said earlier today that NBA players don't feel
safe in Memphis. Do you what do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Kind?
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Oh? I really issues with him any and his commons though,
But it's like another athenine statement by an asenine individual.
It's like ridiculous, How are you gonna make that dumb statement?
You might as well say that about every other city
you go to. That's absurd to me. I mean, there's
never been issues in Memphis, so now, how all of
(30:18):
a sudden that there's a Memphis problem. He's just looking
for clickbait, that's all that is.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Any thought in your mind that Indiana comes back wins
this series.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yes, I believe it. I mean it's based on this
MRII specifically, but I do believe Indiana's gonna win games
six on Thursday, and it's name Sevens are always a
freetball and so to me, it's going to be fun
to see. And I believe Indiana can win this series.
(30:51):
I mean, they've played well outside of the turnovers and
some of these crazy whistles we get at inopportunity times,
they really played well, played solid, So I'm not surprised,
you know, and it's been really good basketball to watch.
Again outside of the turnover because some of those turnovers
are not unforced either. The unforced ones kill Indiana, but
(31:14):
the ones that the referee is allowed to happen, you know,
guys getting hitting the head and everything else. You know,
that's neither that's you know, that's what I'm really talking about.
But at the same time, they have as good a
shot as any And again, all the pressure has been on,
okay see because they have to win. They're the number
one seed, so they have to win. Adytis has been
(31:37):
playing with free money all year.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
OPI, You're the best man. I appreciate you joining us.
Thanks so much for being our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio APPY.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Jay Stu.
I told you I would give you the floor on
steven A and we discussed it Steve and A doing
(32:20):
playing solitaire and then being defiant and then lying about
saying it was during a break and you thought this
was the worst thing ever, and why.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I definitely didn't think it was the worst thing ever.
I think it's a commentary on today's day and age,
in the age of social media, when people have access
to you and to post about you. Fighting back against
bad optics is a loser's game. It makes you look foolish.
(32:55):
So you either have to eat the bad optics or
you need to acknowledge that you're going to try to
change course. From the very beginning, when he saw that
viral video of somebody showing him playing solitaire in the
middle of a game, he either could have done one
of two things, ignore it or acknowledge it. This is
(33:16):
a bad look, my bad. I get paid twenty million
dollars to talk about a sport that I'm playing solitaire
while watching, as opposed to I get multitask I'm good
at multitasking, and it was a timeout when it wasn't
a timeout. Bad optics are bad optics for a reason,
and the proof is in the putting. As far as
(33:36):
I'm concerned, I consume a lot of Stephen A. Smith.
I watch First Take every day. I watch a lot
of the clips that he does with these political commentators
every night. His bandwidth is completely full, and his work
on the air has declined, it's gotten worse. So your
bad optics are confirmed by your performance.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Fair enough, fair enough with that. Let's get to the press.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
The pressin Buyer.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I had no problem with it. Everybody's up in arms.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I really again, I think I think the thing is
Dan again.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I know what the thing is.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, no, no, I don't I don't have what's me.
I'm on my phone. I'm on my phone constantly. It's
more somebody calls you on it, and then you just
do the loud everybody else's I don't care. I'm blah
blah blah blah blah. When we're like, oh oh hey, no,
(34:43):
ability to read the room and the other part Dan
is again, Let's just be totally candid here. He's working
a place everybody knows how much he makes. When you
make that much more than everybody else you work with,
there are higher expectations of you. And so whether it
is real or and in distraction or it is not,
(35:04):
his response is all part of when you're making twenty
million dollars a year anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Sure, but that's not gonna like I mean like ESPN
coming out winners for this. Let's see what stephen A says.
Let's see how Stephen A responds. He's even more.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
They are, they are and they aren't though because he is.
For a long time, the NBA didn't want him on
those wrap around shows. Then he gets on those shows,
the show is not particularly good whatever. That's not all
his fault, period, but it hurts your credibility, whether it's
real or not, Like it doesn't actually matter if you're
(35:43):
playing solitaire like whatever. He's not breaking down game film.
He couldn't tell you what the pistol stuff that exactly.
That's not what he does, not what he does, but
the optics of it, how it looks when you're commentating
on the when you're commenting on coaches, performance plays, performance,
and you're not paying attention and you're making that much money,
(36:04):
and the ESPN had to talk the NBA and letting
him on that pre post halftime show don't look good.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Go ahead, I'm sorry, Like, think of what you want
about off one out soon. I know Buyer's got some
issues with that publication, so do I for their editorial
choices sometimes, but I do want to give them credit
for this headline, or maybe it was the subheadline. We
should not have to suffer through Steven A's boredom with
the NBA. That's the optics. You don't care about this
(36:32):
sport that you're paid to cover.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, that's the other part too. It is the NBA
does have a perception of being hard to watch, and
then when the guy who makes his living commenting on
the NBA is not pulling pull attention, it doesn't exactly
help anyway.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Sorry, Dan, that's okay. I and I talked a little
bit about this on the Sunday show that it did
with Mike Carmen. You can catch the podcast for that
at Fox Sports Radio dot com. There's my plug. Fifteenth.
Mark your calendars. That's when the Los Angeles Chargers will
be revealing their brand new alternate uniforms. There have been
hints it may be back to the dark Navy Dan
(37:13):
Fouts era mid to late eighties, not like the Royal
blue of Fouts, but then more into the Stan Humphreys,
you know, Super Bowl Run, like that sort of Navy blue,
which they've had an alternate of. But this is going
to be a new alternate. But it will fully be
unveiled July fifteenth. A teaser video of it was released
(37:33):
today by the Chargers social media accounts.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Let's create some other uniforms that are clearly not as
good as they're all whites or they're powder blues by
all means.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
That is true, but they do have a good history
of unis there's no doubt about that. Hall of Fame
Skipper Joe Torrey will serve as an honorary coach for
the American League during next month's All Star Game in Atlanta. Yeah,
Aaron Boone staff is going to be him, Stephen Vaue
to the Guardians Skipper and Tory. The National League Dave
(38:03):
Roberts squad will consist of Clayton McCullough of the Marlins,
who was the Dodgers first base coach for the previous
four seasons, and the Braves Brian Snitker as the All
Star Game is in Atlanta. But I like that Joe
Torre is going to have a role. It's not just
had trotting him out there.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, Joe Tory. I feel like that's from Star Wars.
That's the name I have not heard in quite a
long time.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Played in Atlanta. Uh managed jn Kenobi.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
He's the old He's the old ben Kenobi. That's thank
you for.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Having ben Olympic gold Obi Wan Kenobi Olympic gold medalist
Noah Lyles is backed out of a race.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
By the way, have you ever heard Jay Stews's take
on how ben Kenobi changed it to Obi wan Kenoby,
Like you're trying to hide from the Empire and all
you do is is changed ben Kenoby to Obi wan Kenobi,
and you're surprised when they find you.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
The entire universe is hunting down the last of the Jedies.
I'm gonna hide on Tattooine and I'm just gonna change
my first name and they won't they won't know.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
It's like Ted Kazinski changing his name to like Melvin
Kazinski and last name is still pretty recognizable.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Unibomber reference. Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Interesting wow calling someone Corey with her name's Andrew Noah Lyles,
the Olympic gold medalist, backed out of a race in
Times Square against Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill because of
personal reasons. Lyle said that the fifty yard sprint was
actually supposed to take the place this weekend. It will
(39:42):
not go on as scheduled. Just what the Dolphins wanted
their star wide receiver to be doing, and that's the post.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
By get out there and pressed.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
All right, we got hockey tonight. We'll recap it tomorrow.
We'll get you ready for whatever. Game six of the
NBA Finals not got Leap show. Fox were tradio
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