May 3, 2017 • 38 mins
Doug compares Celtics guard Isaiah Thomas scoring 53 points in an overtime win to a Hollywood movie and why a new era in the NBA has officially arrived. He talks about Patriots owner Robert Kraft’s comments on other teams in the NFL being jealous and why he’s right, but shouldn’t have said anything. Plus, Grizzlies guard Mike Conley Jr. joins the show and shares how he fits into today’s NBA style of play.
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us in fifteen minutes. Let's quickly though, uh, bring you
back to what happened last night in the Association. The
Warriors were well, the Warriors dominant, and then they uh,
they showed their dominance in the fourth quarter, and I
turned it off when it was twenty. I have no
idea the final score. I was like, that's the game,
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let's move on. But I was fascinated by the first game.
That was as good of a basketball game as I
have seen. And unlike most of you, I watch a
lot of basketball. That was a great game. And of
course the headliner is Isaiah Thomas, who was the last
pick of the NBA. Yeah right, He's five ft nothing,
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hundred and nothing. He's like the real life Rudy. He
wasn't actually offsides like Rudy was like, Isaiah Thomas is
an unreal story. And if the story of five ft
nothing hundred and nothing from nothing isn't good enough. I
give you the fact that, uh yes, his sister died
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right before the NBA playoffs. They were down two games
and none after his sister died, losing two games at
home in the Chicago Bulls, and sure they got the
benefit of gen Rondo somehow breaking when he brake his thumb.
He broke a bone in his hand, which kept him
out for the main of the playoffs. But since then
they've won six consecutive games. Oh yeah, by the way,
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he had he lost a tooth in game one, had
oral surgery between game one. In Game two, his mouth
was still sore. And then he went out on the
on his dead sister's birthday and dropped fifty three, including
wait for it, twenty nine points in the fourth quarter
in overtime. Outside of the Michigan basketball team surviving a
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plane crash and then winning the Big Ten tournament and
then getting to the Sweet sixteen, I'd like, I hate
to put incredible turnaround stories with filled with emotion against
each other, but I'm gonna do just that. What a
remarkable story this thing is. Here's Isaiah Thomas after the game,
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so numb this morning I mean so swollen this morning.
I had to go back to the hospital just to
get a few minutes to to get the swelling down
because I could barely talk song. But I know once
game time came, my guys will get me, get me
going and give me the energy to go out there
and try to win a game. And then of course,
the speaking of his out here's what he had to
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say about playing for his late sister. I had talked
to Brad and it just wasn't a good day for me,
with with it being my sister's birthday, me being in
the hospital for three or four hours a day, and
I just didn't have the energy. But once I got
around the guys and got to the arena, I felt
like I can go, and I told him I could,
and there's no way I couldn't play on on her birthday.
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I mean, I wanted to win for her and I
wanted to play well for her, so luckily we got
to win. That was crazy, well, I mean, just a
crazy game. But what happens is we get we get
caught watching the shiny stuff and we don't see kind
of the inner workings of it like that, that's kind
of who we are as guys. I've said this before,
like I'm a Rims guy oftentimes, like most guys like
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I get caught in the rims and not how good
is your actual car? Right, but the Rims are sick? Dude, Yeah,
but your car is broken down inside the road. But right,
but the Rims, Like, forget the Rims. And that's to
me the part that so many people are There's just
so many different layers to it. But first, how they
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acquired Isaiah Thomas. They traded Marcus Thornton and the Cavalier's
first round pick in two thousand and sixteen, which is
like the worst first round pick you can possibly get, right,
right for Isaiah Thomas. And of course that's the second
best trade that Danny Ainge has made. The best trade
he made was Paul Pierced, Kevin Garnett and Jason Terry
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and like a bag of balls for three first round picks,
one of which will likely be the number one overall
pick in this year's draft. And I like, I love Cowherd,
but he keeps like, why didn't they make a trade?
Would you trade with that guy? Like if Danny Ainge
gets over on the last two trades he makes and
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there's other moves that he's made, but if he gets
over on the last two trades, he x like you're
sitting there getting ready for the NBA drafting, Like, damn,
Danny Age has another brooklyn nets pick, another Brooklyn nets pick.
It's not top three protected. It's not top three protective, Danny.
When Danny Ainge calls you and you're an NBA general manager,
it's like when me and you get a call and
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it's an unidentified number and you pick up and they say, ah,
you've won a free trip to the Bahamas. Right. Actually, now,
if you heard the new you know they have this
new way of doing hello, Hello, Hello, oh Hi, They're sorry,
bad connection, and it's a recorded thing. It's really good,
like throwing. They're good and smart. But there's a like
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there's a possibility there that you could actually get a
trip to the Bahamas. And all you gotta do is
walk around the time Share when you get there and
pretend like you're interested, sign your name up, put it
on the email. Like. Look, if you start getting the
emails from the timeshare people, you can just block it, right.
But the fact is you are so hesitant because you've
heard stories of other people getting these free trips and
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then getting fleeced and having to pay money. And you know,
it's the reason that people that it's the reason that
car dealers don't say used car anymore. You know what,
I never knows that. Right you go by a dealership,
what do they say? Pre owned? There's also pretty loved
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and there's certified. Is that a used car? Nope, certified
pre owned car? Like but it is actually used? No, no, no, no,
that's not a used car. That's a pre owned, a
pre loved, a certified pre uh pre owned car. And
the reason they don't is because you've heard horror stories
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of the guy in the super cheap suit with the
colorful shirt, the atrocious tie coming at you, going, hey
that that this is a great deal. We gotta move
it today, gotta move it today. You just your immediate
guess is that you're somehow, somebody something's up to. It's
the same thing when you see like I'm sure a
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lot of these preachers, like I think Joel Ostein, like
I'm not Christian. I watched Ostenin like he's got a
pretty good message, but I'm so hesitant to ever sit
down there watch I would never let anybody send money,
not because I think he's but I've seen enough, Preacher,
that's not my Mercedes bands. That's the lot Mercedes bands, right.
I've seen enough guys that have a Bible one hand
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and a bottle of booze and the other that I
can't buy in. That's Danny Ainge is at GM. Like
the story of the Celtics is not just how good
a story Isaiah Thomas is. It's how they got Isaiah Thomas.
They're gonna get the number one, two or three pick.
He went and got Brad Stevens, who's like this. The
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other story the last night was if you notice all
these highlights every time he scores, he's doing so against
the center of the power forward for the Wizard. There's
a kind of genius to that. And you watch what
Brad does and how he does it in order to
create a mismatch, which is coaching and then the other
like just get another realm to it is. We are
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in a transformative period in the NBA, and if you
haven't paid attention, like, look, the Celtics are the ultimate
small ball and I they're not ultimately going to win
a championship. They're not going to get to the finals
with this roster based upon who they need to get through.
But I looked out last night and you have Isaiah
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Thomas five ft nine, maybe at point guard, you have
Avery Bradley six ft one ish, you have Terry Rosier
another combo guard, and at time or or you have
Marcus Smart, Like none of those guys are taller than
six ft two. And then Jay Crowd, who's like six
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five on a good day, playing the power forward. And
they're all standing outside the three point line. And our
horse food is a tridtional power forward playing center, picking
and popping nobody in the lane. Now the pieces are
different and bigger for the and and the and the
movements a little bit different. But what do you think
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the Cans are doing? Right? Kevin Love plays in one
corner when they bring in Channing Fry, he plays in
another or a way out wide. Their point guard slash
power forward is Lebron James. The only guy who cuts
and rebounds towards the basket, runs towards the basket is
Tristan Thompson because he can't shoot right. Then you look
at the Golden State Warriors, same thing except for Jaschulia.
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Then you look at the Houston Rockets Clint Capella. Outside
of that, they're shooting threes or getting layups like the
future is now now and it's no different than the
digital age in media. How we tell you, like, dude,
I love our our our affiliates, and we're going to continue.
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If if your local affiliate doesn't carry us, tell them
what are you doing? This is a good show. I've
listened to the show for years and other networks. Is
not that hard to make the switch. We're on satellite radio,
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that's and and you'll hear all of us, anybody doing
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radio pumping their absent y because everybody's on their phone.
And the second you get in your car, you plug
your phone in and you're on Bluetooth, and you might
forget about the radio. You press the button, it's the
same thing. You're still listening. Again. Future is now in media,
Future is now in the NBA. And don't believe me,
just watched last night and I'm not trying to diminish
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it anyway. Isaiah Thomas, fifty three on his late sister's birthday,
Like that's the stuff. That's a movie that that I
think gets greenlit in Hollywood. But I'm not sure that
aren't people going like come on, man, really, like all right,
I get the part of the script where his sister died,
like that's terrible, but he lost the tooth and then
he has dental surgery and then he has to go
back to the hospital, Like why do you have to
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go back to the hospital? Could you? They send the
script back and they go, can you clean that part up?
That's just you know, like and and I get that
he hits that can't we just haven't hit the game
winning shot, but like struggle in the game, like twenty
nine fourth quarter in overtime, that's not believable. Like this
is Hollywood. Anything can happen, but that can't happen. It
just did. It just did. Be sure to catch live
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editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. You can't label people, and
you can't necessarily label things because there's a The reality
is the world is gray. It's not black or white.
It's just not I'll give you an example. Bob Bolesby
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told the Night Commission on inter Collegiate Athletics. I don't
think they're amateurs. They're college athletes. But he also said,
I don't think they're professionals, And you're like, what, I'm
not going to get into that. You could write the
book on that. But professionals are being paid and amateurs
are doing what they love for the love of the game.
But those are different than the college athletic environment. We
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typically characterize athletes as professionals or amateurs, right, I don't
think college athletes are either. I think it's completely different
genre of its own. Doesn't exist any place else in
the world where higher education and sports participation are linked.
Are co curricular and that makes it different. That's that's
like a wicked smart word where you're just like, what
the hell is co curricular? Okay, curriculum is what we
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do in school. Co curricular somehow means co is tying together.
All right, I got the general gist of the word, right, Like,
that's what you're all doing right now. Let's not act
like we ever use co curricular in a sentence. And
then he goes on to say kind of like I
just said, oh, I never I never know who shares
my views, and who doesn't, alright, Like I don't either.
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I don't neither, And people ask about like I've been asked, like,
what do you think about abortion? I think it should
be I think it should be legal. I think it's
it's an incredibly difficult decision. I don't think the government
should decide what a woman does with her body. I
just don't. UM. If that doesn't align with your political views,
that's okay. That's kind of the basis by which our
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country is based upon is we have different views. But
I don't ask for you or anybody else to align
with my views. I don't and no where do I
want to be labeled because of them. Are they professionals? No,
they are not. You know why because they don't pay
taxes on any of the benefits in which they receive,
and they can't be fired from their job for poor uh,
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for poor um performance can. Matter of fact, everything the
n c A has created is so that you have
a higher recividous rate, so that you have people coming
back to school, coming back to college. They want to
create an environment. They they have the the a p R,
which grades out every school based upon are you are
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your student athletes progressing towards graduation and if so, we
reward you, and if not, then we're gonna punish you.
That has nothing to do with athletic performance. It's really
hard to run. It's harder and harder now to run
players off. But I also would tell you it's not
like you're they're the rowing team, and it's simply for
the pure love of the game. Now, look, if you
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ask me, do I think college athletes should be paid.
The answers no, because they kind of already are. It's
it's not a fair trade. It's an unfair trade. And
excuse wildly in the favor of the student athlete. It
just does. Having lived that because all of all of
us who went to high major university of high portion
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us couldn't get into the school. Forget about whether we
could pay for it, couldn't get in. Do you know
how hard it is to get into school. It is
ridiculous because, for example, in the state of California, this
is where international students love to come, and school would
rather have international students. You know why, because they will
pay more money. So you're not just competing with the
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best students in your state, you're competing with the best
students in the world. They have more money, it's more
valuable to them, and oftentimes they have better UH test
scores coming in. So just getting in is a financial
benefit which there is no there is no compensation for. Then,
once you're in school, you're getting training in your athletic
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field as well as in your academic field. Like you
don't crack use textbooks. When you're a student athlete, you
have unlimited tutoring. You have They give you an iPad,
they give you a computer that you can use at
your disposal. I'm not even talking about the dorms, the food.
And then you have the coaching side of the training staff,
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and the fact that they're promoting you as well, which
is like a marketing department, all all which is trying
to grow your personal brand if you know how to
use it. So I think it's not even a fair trade.
I think athletes benefit far more from it. But I
also understand that there's the realities of the revenue generating
sports men's basketball more than anything football that is not
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the same as the rowing team or the cross country
team or the rugby team, you know, which is like
a club support or whatever like but you know, or
it's not like any other scholarship. It's different. Well, let's
be honest, you're not a professional. Well they should, they
should joy, they should have a union. Well what what
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would they want if they had a union. They would
want fewer hours. Well, you can only practice twenty hours.
They want medical insurance. You already get that. You already
have all the benefits of you. You know, you don't
do you don't pay union dues. So I think it's
actually a really smart conversation with the problem is like
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we just we shuffle people to the your liberal, you're
a Democrat, you've gotta be a pro or an amateur.
And Bob who's like, hey, it's kind of in the
middle of the world is gray. And I think it's
going to get lost in the headline. I really do.
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So Robert Kraft believes that his team is disliked by
others in the league, and he told he's at a
Bloomberg event. He said that he thinks opposing teams jealous
of the Patriots success lobbied NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to
come down harden the paths over the flategate, not because
they deflated football's, not because the deflated footballs were serious business,
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but because they wanted to gain advantage over the Patriots. Quote, well,
I don't hold any grudges, but I also don't forget anything.
Isn't that kind of a grudge. Envy and jealousy are
incurable diseases. That's actually not true. If I had never
won a Super Bowl. I'm going into my twenty four
season as an owner. I'm passionate about owning a football
team in my hometown. If I hadn't won, I wouldn't
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be so angry at our Uh. I would be so
angry at our folks and think about what I can
what what can I do to do it so our competitors.
I understand how they brought pressure on the league office
to be very strong and not compromise on the issue.
That was nonsense and foolishness. As it turned out, of course,
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the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Craft doesn't think that
Tom Brady's four games suspension hurt the team. Quote he
didn't play our first four games, which is the season.
The good news is he did not take wear and
tear on his body. In other words, he's like, look,
the only reason that they came down on us so
hard for to flake gate was because if they hate
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us because they aint us, right, That's what he said,
they hate us because they ain't us. And I I
do think that's true. I don't think it's simply because
they won Super Bowls. It was because of Spygate, right.
It was because there was the thought that hey, Spike
it had got that thing, stuff had gone on, that
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they operate in the gray area with some of this
other stuff. They've always been able to kind of get
away with a thing or two here are there. They
had the illegal for they had the legal slash illegal
formation going back to the year before against the Ravens.
So they had all these things going for them. And
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he's like, look, the only reason they came down on
us was because of because of the Super Bowls. Like,
that's not accurate, just not now. I think the whole
thing was a bunch of nonsense too. I just do.
But I will also point out that Robert Kraft accepted
the punishment of the league, which undercut Tom Brady substantially.
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And he can sit here and go like, hey, we
didn't do anything wrong, then why did you why did you,
Robert Kraft accept the punishment? If nothing went on, if
all of this was nonsense, then why didn't you fight it?
Like if a guy is is over sentenced for a
crime that he didn't commit, that's one thing. But if
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a guy is over sentenced for a crime that he
didn't commit and he pled guilty to it, now you're like, wait,
what right, Like go back and look before Brady. This
is a year before the first Brady ruling. He's like, yeah, alright, fine,
what is it? Five grand here you go or a
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million first round draft pick? Fine, Like, we just want
this to be over with. I don't I just don't
buy that as a defense for innocence. If you're innocent,
you don't go like, yep, you got me, But I'm
just doing this to make this go away, Like I
only buy that. Like maybe if you were in jail
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and they caught you with a with a shiv and
you just picked up the ship at the wrong time
as a guy bleeding it, you're like, as where, I
didn't do anything, but the evidence is really really harming.
Like maybe, but in this particular case, like don't proclaim
your innocence and say PEP will hate us only because
we won Super Bowls when there's a lot of other
stuff to it. But the other part that he violated
is you can't say that. What you have to do
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is you have to allow us to make that next step.
I don't know why other teams would pressure Roger Goodell.
All I can tell you is I believe that other
teams pressured Roger Goodell, and that's why Goodell felt compelled
to make this decision. That's the smart thing to say.
It's like, I can't tell you that I have the
better radio know on Earth, but if I can say, like, look,
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I can't tell you why I've been afforded the opportunity
to to be in this time slot at three different
networks for the last decade, but I'm incredibly grateful to
continue at this opportunity continue to kind of grow the
radio brand. And that allows somebody else to go like, hey,
may maybe he's pretty good or maybe he's real paying
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as I don't know. That's why I keeps going like that.
There's you have to allow other people to make that
next step. And when you say like they hate us
because they hate us and be because we have super
trophies and they don't. You know, we have scoreboard and
they don't. That's why they came at us. Well, you
just sound you sound frankly like your fans. You sound obnoxious.
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And I don't believe Robert Craft be obnoxious, but he's
he is allowing himself to be portrayed as obnoxious based
upon how he contextualizes this argument. You had something, Is
that similar to the arguments that an athlete cannot claim
that they're the greatest of all time? You should just
let people tell you that you're the goat. Yeah, Like
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that's what they would say about Michael Jordan's right, Like
he never had said that he was the greatest of
all time. He said he said, he said it with
his play. You know, you have to you have to
on something. You don't have to necessarily be always be
self deprecating. But you can't be you can't be self.
You can't be self a grand at all time. You know,
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that just doesn't what's the point. Let other people let
other people make that, take that next step in their
minds without you saying. Be sure to catch live editions
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Eastern noon Pacific. Clay Travis up early in the morning
six to nine am Eastern time on FSR. He had
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this take on the Celtics dramatic winning overtime last night,
winning six playoff games in a row. The Boston Celtics
have really served notice that potentially they're gonna put Lebron
and the Calves a little bit nervous because I think
the Calves thought, Oh, the Celtics aren't any good. We
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don't even care if we have home court in that
series in the event that they even get to the
Eastern Conference Finals. And I don't think the Calves really
thought that the Celtics were going to get to the
Eastern Conference finals. Uh. Oh, that's that's I don't believe
that to be accurate. Uh Love Clay Love his show
out kicked the coverage six and nine am Eastern Time
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on Fox Sport Trade. You can download the podcast as well. Uh.
That sounded really that sounded like a six am or
six fifteen am. That was before he got the pipes
kind of going. He got the energy kind of going,
didn't it, And also before he kind of got some
of the common sense going late in the season. Late
in the season they didn't have Tristan Thompson. Both sides
claimed the game didn't matter that much and Lebron James
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completely and thoroughly dominated because the the Celtics are a
j V version of the Varsity, which is the Calves. Right,
both teams play small ball, but the Calves are bigger
and more athletic at every spot, and even though they
will struggle to defend more athletic players, they able to
make up for it with their some of their length
at the rim. They've always limited Isaiah Thomas and or
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even go back to Derrick Rose when he was when
he had it going with the with the Bulls. Eventually
Lebron James would end that. I think it's a terrible
matchup for the Celtics just because they've won six and
row and they're playing on this raw motion of the turnaround.
I don't believe that strikes any fear into the Calves.
Hearts so much so, I just got an email from Nike.
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Nike is has now has a campaign called Flip the Switch,
Like everybody's getting into the fact that the Calves are
are switch flippers. There you go. I want to make
sure I said it right. There's a chance for some
switch flippers because they've kind of flipped the switch and
the matchup. They match up worse with the Wizards and
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John Wall than they do with the Celtics. That's why
I believe they kind of manipulated the things so that
they can be the opposite bracket of the Wizards. They
still may get the Wizards, or they'll get the Celtics,
but I don't think the Celtics have are striking fear
in the Cavalier's hearts after they already dominated Toronto once
and they'll probably do so again tonight. That's what the
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the Doug Golip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Are you
a concert guy? Um, somewhat, I'll go to a few
a year, like what like what's your Is there one
that man, I really gotta go out and I gotta
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go see this guy in concert? Um? You know, not really,
I think I just kind of do see you know,
if it's convenient or you know whoever it's hot, like
I'll go see Drake or you know those guys perform,
and um, I would love to see like Beyonce or something.
I've never been to one of those, but take my
family there or something, you know, do something like that. Yeah,
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are you a sneat seat snob? I'm kind of. I'll
be honest with you, I'm a seat snob, like once
you and you've accomplished a lot more in your life
than I have. But like, if you want me to
go to an event, I gotta be either in a
box where you know, like because I'll get a d
D and I gotta pay I can't pay attention to it,
or it's got to be close so whether it's backstage
or really close to backstage so I can actually experience it.
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What about you, I'd have to Agreeeah, I like to
be is you know, it's comfortable possible where I can
at least enjoy it, and um, you know, not being
the thing I say, You know, with all the crowd
and stuff. You know, one of the great things about
being you is that you're not you know, you're not
Lebron in terms of your size right like, You're You're
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even smaller in many ways than the like Steph And
so if you have a hat on right like, you
just look like a dude. You just like like a
good looking dude. So you can can you still go
into places, maybe not in Memphis but other places and
just be a regular guy and not have people go hey,
isn't that Mike Conley? Oh yeah, I can get away
with it a lot easier than a lot of the
lot of those taller guys. Man and all you said,
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just put a hat on our hood or something, and um,
I can make my way through a lot of a
lot of events. Mike Conley Jr. Joining us from the
Memphis Grizzly Stug Gotli show Fox Sports Radio. There are
people that are giving you, guys credit for beating the Spurs,
for Houston beating the Expursion game one. I don't know
if you've read any of this or hurting this, but
people are like, look, dude, you came off the type
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of series which the Grizzlies can't beat you, but the
Grizzlies will beat you up so much so the next
series there's still kind of that lingering effect. Do you
buy into that? Um, you know, I think that, Uh,
it's just a contrast of styles more than anything. I
think when you're you play against us, we're you know,
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you're gonna be physical, it's gonna be slower paced, and um,
it's a different style of game. And then when you
have to Swiss gears to a team like Houston. Um,
I just think that they, you know, just caught him,
caught him still in the you know, the hangover planning
against us a little bit and just a different styles,
you know, kind of caught him off guard. When you watch,
when you as a six two point guard watched last
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night what Isaiah Thomas did. First? What what just what
he did? What goes through your mind? Man? Um Man,
that's I don't know how he how he how he
did it? Man, that's it's unbelievable that he's even playing,
um with every that's going on with him and his
family and you know, things that they're going through. I
kind of imagine, But to do the things that he
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did last night, I mean, that's those those those that's
a story you'll tell, you know, your your children, your
grandkids and stuff like that. I mean that that was
that kind of a performance. Mike I I said this
to start the show. I I don't think like we're
broadcasting from Los Angeles actually just from the valley right
real close to Hollywood. I don't know if that script
gets greenlit in Hollywood. You're like, alright, five, Like his
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sister dies like tragedy. It gets his tooth knocked out
in the oral surgery, Like okay, that's a cool twist. Um,
he has twenty four and the first uh what the
three quarters? We twenty nine? The fourth quarter in overtime.
I come on, like, I get that he made some
game winning shots, but like that part is just ridiculous.
I'm not sure that that becomes We all know Hollywood
scripts have a happy ending. I'm not sure that one
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gets greenlight. Well I don't see how. I don't see
how I can't, But I mean, I love to love
to see something you know on about that, because that's
really uh was a sight to see, didn't you know?
Live was was unbelievable. Mike Conley Jr. Joining Us Doug
Gotlip Show, Fox Sport TRADEO. But then you look at
the the roster composition. Obviously they've tried to get bigs,
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but you look last night and you got Avery Bradley,
who's about your size right playing the two. Then they
got either Marcus Marter Terry Roch here playing like small forward,
Jalen Brown who's like six six six seven rookie playing
the four, or Jay Crowd who's like six five playing
the four, and then Al Horford playing the five like
and then you compare like the juxtaposition to which how
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your team is built right with Zebo at the four
and Mark at the five, and you see so many
of these teams that are spreading it out and playing
small ball or playing from three point uh three point
and then layups, you know, the the new style of basketball.
I guess my question you is, do you think ultimately
you guys can win big in the NBA with the
traditional lineup that you guys have thrown out of here
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for almost a decade now? Oh? You know, we we
believe in ourselves with the roster we have and the
guys that we as long as we played through our strengths, um,
as long as we have our big fellows. You know,
we gotta play throw the man um and for us,
you know, it's it's more so can we make ourselves
a hybrid? You know with our roster. Can we find
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a way to get a little bit faster. Can we
find a way to spread the court or find different
lineups where we can create more space and shoot more
threes and and play a little bit more like today's
game because as we're staying around the league, that's where
everybody's headed and um they're at now and uh and
has caused um, you know a lot of teams to
to jump on board and be playing at all time
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levels because of it. Can can I give you a
personal assessment, like, like you live this life, so you
can tell me. A lot of people point out, well,
you can't touch a guy in the perimeter that that's
really hard. But it's made even more difficult because the
NBA officials are allowing that big guy who sets the
high ball screen to move and it's called twisting right
to switch the ball screen angle at the very last moment,
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which is what really makes it impossible to guard, isn't
it isn't that more part of what's creating these angles
for for the downhill drives than anything. UM. I have
to agree, Man, it really is tough as a defensive
players trying to guard um, you know, these quick, fast
athletic guards who already you know, don't meet no need
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much help to get open um. You know, they're able
to get screens that you know, the big man can
go from side to side or you know, kind of
roll you into the pain as there is. They're you know,
setting the screen and a bunch of different things in
ways that they've become really good at setting screens that um,
you know, makes it very difficult for teams to defense.
For the first time in franchise history. To Memphis Grizzlies
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players Mike Conley Jr. Who of course is joining us
right now and Zebo. Zach Randolph had been named finalist
for the two thousand sixteen two thousand and seventeen season
long NBA Cares Community Activists Award, which is presented by
Kai Is There Permanente. UH Fans can vote on Twitter
through May five, So that's through I think Friday. Hashtag
Zach Randof for hash hashtag Mike Conley, Like, couldn't you
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guys just pull your votes right like you like listen,
we're on the same team. We're both trying to win
the same award like LAMBIA to pull our votes. We're
both doing good deeds. Here in Memphis. We both want
to win the award. I think that's the best idea
I've heard. Man, we we should have thought that from
the beginning, and uh we might have a chance. So no,
but it's great to uh to be a Monks one
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of the finalists, and those bots say the same, and um,
you know we mean, you know, we we do a
lot in our communities and we're here. You know, it's
excited to represent them and and hopefully one of us
to get it. You signed that huge offseason contract. You
know I've caught up on this before, but did you
feel like people other guards came at you harder because
of that contract that you signed? Uh? You know, not really.
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I honestly was spending too much of my time trying
to go as them what I'm saying, Like it was like, um,
I was trying to you know, just my responsibility was different,
so I was trying to adjust to it and and
concentrate on solely on that, not much you know what
other people were trying to do in regards to coming
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at me. So you know, it made it a little
bit easier than trying to worry about other people. You
had this great sentence and I'm and I'm kind of
paraphrasing stuff and I butcher it. Forgive me my Conley
Junior joining us. UM, after you played so well against
the Spurs, even in the loss, even the losses, you
said that I'm not trying to prove people wrong. I'm
trying to prove the people who believe to me right.
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Is that Is that accurate? That was that what you said? Yes? Yes, yeah,
you know it's it's true. You know that that you
know that that statement is something that Um, I've just
tried to live by, you know really and and because
I just after I signed a contract me as much
of negative things that came along with this, as far
as criticism and all the things that's going on, and
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I kind of set back in and you know, maybe
realize that all the people who have you know, went
on a limb for me of helped me, UM, grow mature,
you know, have believed in me, and and those are
the people that matter the most. Why would I waste
my energy on the people who I don't even know,
who are negatively trying to affect me. So that was
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the way I looked at it. Well, that that that
leads me to this last thing, Mike con Ley Jr.
Joining US, which is like value, Like I think I
think Russ is gonna win the m v P. I
think he had an incredible season. But he also led
the NBA in field goal attempts right like he shoots
a tunny, led the NBA in turnover as well. Whereas
the style by which you play point guard, I kind
of feel like it's only you and Chris Paul who
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are more the troop point guards. And I know you're
called on to score and you have to lead your team.
How do we how should we have assessed like your value,
whether or not you're whether you're not you're playing well,
because the stats excuse so much in the favor of
guys who shoot more and maminate the ball more than
a guy like you are, a guy maybe to a
lesser stent like Chris Paul. Right. Um, yeah, you know,
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to the end of the day's game, everybody looks at
the statu seats and if you don't have thirty or
fifty or forty or whatever and a triple double, you
you're you're not worth anything, or you didn't play well
or whatever it is. And um, I think for guys
like me and Chris, who, um are you know facilitators
mainly first and and and we can score the ball,
we can do whatever. But I think this our efficiency,
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you know, the way we go about the game. You
know there'll be games where, um, you know you can
will shoot fifteen times total or you know ten of
fifteen and uh, you know just this, you know this
and steals and you're playing defense and all the things
that you did to help to win win the game. Um,
and you're able to dominate without you know, even showing
up stat sheet. And I think that's the difference. You know,
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guards can still dominate games without um having to you know,
put up monster numbers. Yeah, I always and maybe it's
because I couldn't score. You could dominate a game without
even taking a shot. Case maybe that's that's a little
too much. So, but boy, you had an incredible season.
Whatever concert you get out to enjoy it. Enjoy the
fact you can still be incognito and then crushed dudes
during the during the NBA season. Appreciate all you've done
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in the community. Was she the best of luck in
the Community Service Award and thanks me our guest on
Fox Sports Radio, Thank you appreciate it. All right, Mike
Conley Jr. Joining US
This is the best of the Don Gottlieb Show on
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got a great show for you. A Door Jackson, first
round pick of the Tennessee Titans, is going to join
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us in fifteen minutes. Let's quickly though, uh, bring you
back to what happened last night in the Association. The
Warriors were well, the Warriors dominant, and then they uh,
they showed their dominance in the fourth quarter, and I
turned it off when it was twenty. I have no
idea the final score. I was like, that's the game,
(01:49):
let's move on. But I was fascinated by the first game.
That was as good of a basketball game as I
have seen. And unlike most of you, I watch a
lot of basketball. That was a great game. And of
course the headliner is Isaiah Thomas, who was the last
pick of the NBA. Yeah right, He's five ft nothing,
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hundred and nothing. He's like the real life Rudy. He
wasn't actually offsides like Rudy was like, Isaiah Thomas is
an unreal story. And if the story of five ft
nothing hundred and nothing from nothing isn't good enough. I
give you the fact that, uh yes, his sister died
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right before the NBA playoffs. They were down two games
and none after his sister died, losing two games at
home in the Chicago Bulls, and sure they got the
benefit of gen Rondo somehow breaking when he brake his thumb.
He broke a bone in his hand, which kept him
out for the main of the playoffs. But since then
they've won six consecutive games. Oh yeah, by the way,
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he had he lost a tooth in game one, had
oral surgery between game one. In Game two, his mouth
was still sore. And then he went out on the
on his dead sister's birthday and dropped fifty three, including
wait for it, twenty nine points in the fourth quarter
in overtime. Outside of the Michigan basketball team surviving a
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plane crash and then winning the Big Ten tournament and
then getting to the Sweet sixteen, I'd like, I hate
to put incredible turnaround stories with filled with emotion against
each other, but I'm gonna do just that. What a
remarkable story this thing is. Here's Isaiah Thomas after the game,
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so numb this morning I mean so swollen this morning.
I had to go back to the hospital just to
get a few minutes to to get the swelling down
because I could barely talk song. But I know once
game time came, my guys will get me, get me
going and give me the energy to go out there
and try to win a game. And then of course,
the speaking of his out here's what he had to
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say about playing for his late sister. I had talked
to Brad and it just wasn't a good day for me,
with with it being my sister's birthday, me being in
the hospital for three or four hours a day, and
I just didn't have the energy. But once I got
around the guys and got to the arena, I felt
like I can go, and I told him I could,
and there's no way I couldn't play on on her birthday.
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I mean, I wanted to win for her and I
wanted to play well for her, so luckily we got
to win. That was crazy, well, I mean, just a
crazy game. But what happens is we get we get
caught watching the shiny stuff and we don't see kind
of the inner workings of it like that, that's kind
of who we are as guys. I've said this before,
like I'm a Rims guy oftentimes, like most guys like
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I get caught in the rims and not how good
is your actual car? Right, but the Rims are sick? Dude, Yeah,
but your car is broken down inside the road. But right,
but the Rims, Like, forget the Rims. And that's to
me the part that so many people are There's just
so many different layers to it. But first, how they
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acquired Isaiah Thomas. They traded Marcus Thornton and the Cavalier's
first round pick in two thousand and sixteen, which is
like the worst first round pick you can possibly get, right,
right for Isaiah Thomas. And of course that's the second
best trade that Danny Ainge has made. The best trade
he made was Paul Pierced, Kevin Garnett and Jason Terry
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and like a bag of balls for three first round picks,
one of which will likely be the number one overall
pick in this year's draft. And I like, I love Cowherd,
but he keeps like, why didn't they make a trade?
Would you trade with that guy? Like if Danny Ainge
gets over on the last two trades he makes and
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there's other moves that he's made, but if he gets
over on the last two trades, he x like you're
sitting there getting ready for the NBA drafting, Like, damn,
Danny Age has another brooklyn nets pick, another Brooklyn nets pick.
It's not top three protected. It's not top three protective, Danny.
When Danny Ainge calls you and you're an NBA general manager,
it's like when me and you get a call and
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it's an unidentified number and you pick up and they say, ah,
you've won a free trip to the Bahamas. Right. Actually, now,
if you heard the new you know they have this
new way of doing hello, Hello, Hello, oh Hi, They're sorry,
bad connection, and it's a recorded thing. It's really good,
like throwing. They're good and smart. But there's a like
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there's a possibility there that you could actually get a
trip to the Bahamas. And all you gotta do is
walk around the time Share when you get there and
pretend like you're interested, sign your name up, put it
on the email. Like. Look, if you start getting the
emails from the timeshare people, you can just block it, right.
But the fact is you are so hesitant because you've
heard stories of other people getting these free trips and
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then getting fleeced and having to pay money. And you know,
it's the reason that people that it's the reason that
car dealers don't say used car anymore. You know what,
I never knows that. Right you go by a dealership,
what do they say? Pre owned? There's also pretty loved
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and there's certified. Is that a used car? Nope, certified
pre owned car? Like but it is actually used? No, no, no, no,
that's not a used car. That's a pre owned, a
pre loved, a certified pre uh pre owned car. And
the reason they don't is because you've heard horror stories
(07:47):
of the guy in the super cheap suit with the
colorful shirt, the atrocious tie coming at you, going, hey
that that this is a great deal. We gotta move
it today, gotta move it today. You just your immediate
guess is that you're somehow, somebody something's up to. It's
the same thing when you see like I'm sure a
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lot of these preachers, like I think Joel Ostein, like
I'm not Christian. I watched Ostenin like he's got a
pretty good message, but I'm so hesitant to ever sit
down there watch I would never let anybody send money,
not because I think he's but I've seen enough, Preacher,
that's not my Mercedes bands. That's the lot Mercedes bands, right.
I've seen enough guys that have a Bible one hand
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and a bottle of booze and the other that I
can't buy in. That's Danny Ainge is at GM. Like
the story of the Celtics is not just how good
a story Isaiah Thomas is. It's how they got Isaiah Thomas.
They're gonna get the number one, two or three pick.
He went and got Brad Stevens, who's like this. The
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other story the last night was if you notice all
these highlights every time he scores, he's doing so against
the center of the power forward for the Wizard. There's
a kind of genius to that. And you watch what
Brad does and how he does it in order to
create a mismatch, which is coaching and then the other
like just get another realm to it is. We are
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in a transformative period in the NBA, and if you
haven't paid attention, like, look, the Celtics are the ultimate
small ball and I they're not ultimately going to win
a championship. They're not going to get to the finals
with this roster based upon who they need to get through.
But I looked out last night and you have Isaiah
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Thomas five ft nine, maybe at point guard, you have
Avery Bradley six ft one ish, you have Terry Rosier
another combo guard, and at time or or you have
Marcus Smart, Like none of those guys are taller than
six ft two. And then Jay Crowd, who's like six
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five on a good day, playing the power forward. And
they're all standing outside the three point line. And our
horse food is a tridtional power forward playing center, picking
and popping nobody in the lane. Now the pieces are
different and bigger for the and and the and the
movements a little bit different. But what do you think
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the Cans are doing? Right? Kevin Love plays in one
corner when they bring in Channing Fry, he plays in
another or a way out wide. Their point guard slash
power forward is Lebron James. The only guy who cuts
and rebounds towards the basket, runs towards the basket is
Tristan Thompson because he can't shoot right. Then you look
at the Golden State Warriors, same thing except for Jaschulia.
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Then you look at the Houston Rockets Clint Capella. Outside
of that, they're shooting threes or getting layups like the
future is now now and it's no different than the
digital age in media. How we tell you, like, dude,
I love our our our affiliates, and we're going to continue.
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If if your local affiliate doesn't carry us, tell them
what are you doing? This is a good show. I've
listened to the show for years and other networks. Is
not that hard to make the switch. We're on satellite radio,
which anybody who gets a new car gets gets free
satellite radio. And we got the I Heart app and
that's and and you'll hear all of us, anybody doing
(11:31):
radio pumping their absent y because everybody's on their phone.
And the second you get in your car, you plug
your phone in and you're on Bluetooth, and you might
forget about the radio. You press the button, it's the
same thing. You're still listening. Again. Future is now in media,
Future is now in the NBA. And don't believe me,
just watched last night and I'm not trying to diminish
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it anyway. Isaiah Thomas, fifty three on his late sister's birthday,
Like that's the stuff. That's a movie that that I
think gets greenlit in Hollywood. But I'm not sure that
aren't people going like come on, man, really, like all right,
I get the part of the script where his sister died,
like that's terrible, but he lost the tooth and then
he has dental surgery and then he has to go
back to the hospital, Like why do you have to
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go back to the hospital? Could you? They send the
script back and they go, can you clean that part up?
That's just you know, like and and I get that
he hits that can't we just haven't hit the game
winning shot, but like struggle in the game, like twenty
nine fourth quarter in overtime, that's not believable. Like this
is Hollywood. Anything can happen, but that can't happen. It
just did. It just did. Be sure to catch live
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editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. You can't label people, and
you can't necessarily label things because there's a The reality
is the world is gray. It's not black or white.
It's just not I'll give you an example. Bob Bolesby
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told the Night Commission on inter Collegiate Athletics. I don't
think they're amateurs. They're college athletes. But he also said,
I don't think they're professionals, And you're like, what, I'm
not going to get into that. You could write the
book on that. But professionals are being paid and amateurs
are doing what they love for the love of the game.
But those are different than the college athletic environment. We
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typically characterize athletes as professionals or amateurs, right, I don't
think college athletes are either. I think it's completely different
genre of its own. Doesn't exist any place else in
the world where higher education and sports participation are linked.
Are co curricular and that makes it different. That's that's
like a wicked smart word where you're just like, what
the hell is co curricular? Okay, curriculum is what we
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do in school. Co curricular somehow means co is tying together.
All right, I got the general gist of the word, right, Like,
that's what you're all doing right now. Let's not act
like we ever use co curricular in a sentence. And
then he goes on to say kind of like I
just said, oh, I never I never know who shares
my views, and who doesn't, alright, Like I don't either.
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I don't neither, And people ask about like I've been asked, like,
what do you think about abortion? I think it should
be I think it should be legal. I think it's
it's an incredibly difficult decision. I don't think the government
should decide what a woman does with her body. I
just don't. UM. If that doesn't align with your political views,
that's okay. That's kind of the basis by which our
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country is based upon is we have different views. But
I don't ask for you or anybody else to align
with my views. I don't and no where do I
want to be labeled because of them. Are they professionals? No,
they are not. You know why because they don't pay
taxes on any of the benefits in which they receive,
and they can't be fired from their job for poor uh,
(14:41):
for poor um performance can. Matter of fact, everything the
n c A has created is so that you have
a higher recividous rate, so that you have people coming
back to school, coming back to college. They want to
create an environment. They they have the the a p R,
which grades out every school based upon are you are
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your student athletes progressing towards graduation and if so, we
reward you, and if not, then we're gonna punish you.
That has nothing to do with athletic performance. It's really
hard to run. It's harder and harder now to run
players off. But I also would tell you it's not
like you're they're the rowing team, and it's simply for
the pure love of the game. Now, look, if you
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ask me, do I think college athletes should be paid.
The answers no, because they kind of already are. It's
it's not a fair trade. It's an unfair trade. And
excuse wildly in the favor of the student athlete. It
just does. Having lived that because all of all of
us who went to high major university of high portion
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us couldn't get into the school. Forget about whether we
could pay for it, couldn't get in. Do you know
how hard it is to get into school. It is
ridiculous because, for example, in the state of California, this
is where international students love to come, and school would
rather have international students. You know why, because they will
pay more money. So you're not just competing with the
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best students in your state, you're competing with the best
students in the world. They have more money, it's more
valuable to them, and oftentimes they have better UH test
scores coming in. So just getting in is a financial
benefit which there is no there is no compensation for. Then,
once you're in school, you're getting training in your athletic
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field as well as in your academic field. Like you
don't crack use textbooks. When you're a student athlete, you
have unlimited tutoring. You have They give you an iPad,
they give you a computer that you can use at
your disposal. I'm not even talking about the dorms, the food.
And then you have the coaching side of the training staff,
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and the fact that they're promoting you as well, which
is like a marketing department, all all which is trying
to grow your personal brand if you know how to
use it. So I think it's not even a fair trade.
I think athletes benefit far more from it. But I
also understand that there's the realities of the revenue generating
sports men's basketball more than anything football that is not
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the same as the rowing team or the cross country
team or the rugby team, you know, which is like
a club support or whatever like but you know, or
it's not like any other scholarship. It's different. Well, let's
be honest, you're not a professional. Well they should, they
should joy, they should have a union. Well what what
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would they want if they had a union. They would
want fewer hours. Well, you can only practice twenty hours.
They want medical insurance. You already get that. You already
have all the benefits of you. You know, you don't
do you don't pay union dues. So I think it's
actually a really smart conversation with the problem is like
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we just we shuffle people to the your liberal, you're
a Democrat, you've gotta be a pro or an amateur.
And Bob who's like, hey, it's kind of in the
middle of the world is gray. And I think it's
going to get lost in the headline. I really do.
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So Robert Kraft believes that his team is disliked by
others in the league, and he told he's at a
Bloomberg event. He said that he thinks opposing teams jealous
of the Patriots success lobbied NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to
come down harden the paths over the flategate, not because
they deflated football's, not because the deflated footballs were serious business,
(18:35):
but because they wanted to gain advantage over the Patriots. Quote, well,
I don't hold any grudges, but I also don't forget anything.
Isn't that kind of a grudge. Envy and jealousy are
incurable diseases. That's actually not true. If I had never
won a Super Bowl. I'm going into my twenty four
season as an owner. I'm passionate about owning a football
team in my hometown. If I hadn't won, I wouldn't
(18:58):
be so angry at our Uh. I would be so
angry at our folks and think about what I can
what what can I do to do it so our competitors.
I understand how they brought pressure on the league office
to be very strong and not compromise on the issue.
That was nonsense and foolishness. As it turned out, of course,
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the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Craft doesn't think that
Tom Brady's four games suspension hurt the team. Quote he
didn't play our first four games, which is the season.
The good news is he did not take wear and
tear on his body. In other words, he's like, look,
the only reason that they came down on us so
hard for to flake gate was because if they hate
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us because they aint us, right, That's what he said,
they hate us because they ain't us. And I I
do think that's true. I don't think it's simply because
they won Super Bowls. It was because of Spygate, right.
It was because there was the thought that hey, Spike
it had got that thing, stuff had gone on, that
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they operate in the gray area with some of this
other stuff. They've always been able to kind of get
away with a thing or two here are there. They
had the illegal for they had the legal slash illegal
formation going back to the year before against the Ravens.
So they had all these things going for them. And
(20:22):
he's like, look, the only reason they came down on
us was because of because of the Super Bowls. Like,
that's not accurate, just not now. I think the whole
thing was a bunch of nonsense too. I just do.
But I will also point out that Robert Kraft accepted
the punishment of the league, which undercut Tom Brady substantially.
(20:45):
And he can sit here and go like, hey, we
didn't do anything wrong, then why did you why did you,
Robert Kraft accept the punishment? If nothing went on, if
all of this was nonsense, then why didn't you fight it?
Like if a guy is is over sentenced for a
crime that he didn't commit, that's one thing. But if
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a guy is over sentenced for a crime that he
didn't commit and he pled guilty to it, now you're like, wait,
what right, Like go back and look before Brady. This
is a year before the first Brady ruling. He's like, yeah, alright, fine,
what is it? Five grand here you go or a
(21:26):
million first round draft pick? Fine, Like, we just want
this to be over with. I don't I just don't
buy that as a defense for innocence. If you're innocent,
you don't go like, yep, you got me, But I'm
just doing this to make this go away, Like I
only buy that. Like maybe if you were in jail
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and they caught you with a with a shiv and
you just picked up the ship at the wrong time
as a guy bleeding it, you're like, as where, I
didn't do anything, but the evidence is really really harming.
Like maybe, but in this particular case, like don't proclaim
your innocence and say PEP will hate us only because
we won Super Bowls when there's a lot of other
stuff to it. But the other part that he violated
is you can't say that. What you have to do
(22:09):
is you have to allow us to make that next step.
I don't know why other teams would pressure Roger Goodell.
All I can tell you is I believe that other
teams pressured Roger Goodell, and that's why Goodell felt compelled
to make this decision. That's the smart thing to say.
It's like, I can't tell you that I have the
better radio know on Earth, but if I can say, like, look,
(22:30):
I can't tell you why I've been afforded the opportunity
to to be in this time slot at three different
networks for the last decade, but I'm incredibly grateful to
continue at this opportunity continue to kind of grow the
radio brand. And that allows somebody else to go like, hey,
may maybe he's pretty good or maybe he's real paying
(22:50):
as I don't know. That's why I keeps going like that.
There's you have to allow other people to make that
next step. And when you say like they hate us
because they hate us and be because we have super
trophies and they don't. You know, we have scoreboard and
they don't. That's why they came at us. Well, you
just sound you sound frankly like your fans. You sound obnoxious.
(23:15):
And I don't believe Robert Craft be obnoxious, but he's
he is allowing himself to be portrayed as obnoxious based
upon how he contextualizes this argument. You had something, Is
that similar to the arguments that an athlete cannot claim
that they're the greatest of all time? You should just
let people tell you that you're the goat. Yeah, Like
(23:39):
that's what they would say about Michael Jordan's right, Like
he never had said that he was the greatest of
all time. He said he said, he said it with
his play. You know, you have to you have to
on something. You don't have to necessarily be always be
self deprecating. But you can't be you can't be self.
You can't be self a grand at all time. You know,
(24:01):
that just doesn't what's the point. Let other people let
other people make that, take that next step in their
minds without you saying. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug gott Leaves show weekdays at three pm
Eastern noon Pacific. Clay Travis up early in the morning
six to nine am Eastern time on FSR. He had
(24:22):
this take on the Celtics dramatic winning overtime last night,
winning six playoff games in a row. The Boston Celtics
have really served notice that potentially they're gonna put Lebron
and the Calves a little bit nervous because I think
the Calves thought, Oh, the Celtics aren't any good. We
(24:44):
don't even care if we have home court in that
series in the event that they even get to the
Eastern Conference Finals. And I don't think the Calves really
thought that the Celtics were going to get to the
Eastern Conference finals. Uh. Oh, that's that's I don't believe
that to be accurate. Uh Love Clay Love his show
out kicked the coverage six and nine am Eastern Time
(25:06):
on Fox Sport Trade. You can download the podcast as well. Uh.
That sounded really that sounded like a six am or
six fifteen am. That was before he got the pipes
kind of going. He got the energy kind of going,
didn't it, And also before he kind of got some
of the common sense going late in the season. Late
in the season they didn't have Tristan Thompson. Both sides
claimed the game didn't matter that much and Lebron James
(25:27):
completely and thoroughly dominated because the the Celtics are a
j V version of the Varsity, which is the Calves. Right,
both teams play small ball, but the Calves are bigger
and more athletic at every spot, and even though they
will struggle to defend more athletic players, they able to
make up for it with their some of their length
at the rim. They've always limited Isaiah Thomas and or
(25:49):
even go back to Derrick Rose when he was when
he had it going with the with the Bulls. Eventually
Lebron James would end that. I think it's a terrible
matchup for the Celtics just because they've won six and
row and they're playing on this raw motion of the turnaround.
I don't believe that strikes any fear into the Calves.
Hearts so much so, I just got an email from Nike.
(26:10):
Nike is has now has a campaign called Flip the Switch,
Like everybody's getting into the fact that the Calves are
are switch flippers. There you go. I want to make
sure I said it right. There's a chance for some
switch flippers because they've kind of flipped the switch and
the matchup. They match up worse with the Wizards and
(26:31):
John Wall than they do with the Celtics. That's why
I believe they kind of manipulated the things so that
they can be the opposite bracket of the Wizards. They
still may get the Wizards, or they'll get the Celtics,
but I don't think the Celtics have are striking fear
in the Cavalier's hearts after they already dominated Toronto once
and they'll probably do so again tonight. That's what the
Fox said. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at
Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart
Radio app and Mike Conley Junior, your joints is on
the Doug Golip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Are you
a concert guy? Um, somewhat, I'll go to a few
a year, like what like what's your Is there one
that man, I really gotta go out and I gotta
(27:13):
go see this guy in concert? Um? You know, not really,
I think I just kind of do see you know,
if it's convenient or you know whoever it's hot, like
I'll go see Drake or you know those guys perform,
and um, I would love to see like Beyonce or something.
I've never been to one of those, but take my
family there or something, you know, do something like that. Yeah,
(27:34):
are you a sneat seat snob? I'm kind of. I'll
be honest with you, I'm a seat snob, like once
you and you've accomplished a lot more in your life
than I have. But like, if you want me to
go to an event, I gotta be either in a
box where you know, like because I'll get a d
D and I gotta pay I can't pay attention to it,
or it's got to be close so whether it's backstage
or really close to backstage so I can actually experience it.
(27:54):
What about you, I'd have to Agreeeah, I like to
be is you know, it's comfortable possible where I can
at least enjoy it, and um, you know, not being
the thing I say, You know, with all the crowd
and stuff. You know, one of the great things about
being you is that you're not you know, you're not
Lebron in terms of your size right like, You're You're
(28:15):
even smaller in many ways than the like Steph And
so if you have a hat on right like, you
just look like a dude. You just like like a
good looking dude. So you can can you still go
into places, maybe not in Memphis but other places and
just be a regular guy and not have people go hey,
isn't that Mike Conley? Oh yeah, I can get away
with it a lot easier than a lot of the
lot of those taller guys. Man and all you said,
(28:38):
just put a hat on our hood or something, and um,
I can make my way through a lot of a
lot of events. Mike Conley Jr. Joining us from the
Memphis Grizzly Stug Gotli show Fox Sports Radio. There are
people that are giving you, guys credit for beating the Spurs,
for Houston beating the Expursion game one. I don't know
if you've read any of this or hurting this, but
people are like, look, dude, you came off the type
(28:59):
of series which the Grizzlies can't beat you, but the
Grizzlies will beat you up so much so the next
series there's still kind of that lingering effect. Do you
buy into that? Um, you know, I think that, Uh,
it's just a contrast of styles more than anything. I
think when you're you play against us, we're you know,
(29:20):
you're gonna be physical, it's gonna be slower paced, and um,
it's a different style of game. And then when you
have to Swiss gears to a team like Houston. Um,
I just think that they, you know, just caught him,
caught him still in the you know, the hangover planning
against us a little bit and just a different styles,
you know, kind of caught him off guard. When you watch,
when you as a six two point guard watched last
(29:44):
night what Isaiah Thomas did. First? What what just what
he did? What goes through your mind? Man? Um Man,
that's I don't know how he how he how he
did it? Man, that's it's unbelievable that he's even playing,
um with every that's going on with him and his
family and you know, things that they're going through. I
kind of imagine, But to do the things that he
(30:06):
did last night, I mean, that's those those those that's
a story you'll tell, you know, your your children, your
grandkids and stuff like that. I mean that that was
that kind of a performance. Mike I I said this
to start the show. I I don't think like we're
broadcasting from Los Angeles actually just from the valley right
real close to Hollywood. I don't know if that script
gets greenlit in Hollywood. You're like, alright, five, Like his
(30:29):
sister dies like tragedy. It gets his tooth knocked out
in the oral surgery, Like okay, that's a cool twist. Um,
he has twenty four and the first uh what the
three quarters? We twenty nine? The fourth quarter in overtime.
I come on, like, I get that he made some
game winning shots, but like that part is just ridiculous.
I'm not sure that that becomes We all know Hollywood
scripts have a happy ending. I'm not sure that one
(30:51):
gets greenlight. Well I don't see how. I don't see
how I can't, But I mean, I love to love
to see something you know on about that, because that's
really uh was a sight to see, didn't you know?
Live was was unbelievable. Mike Conley Jr. Joining Us Doug
Gotlip Show, Fox Sport TRADEO. But then you look at
the the roster composition. Obviously they've tried to get bigs,
(31:13):
but you look last night and you got Avery Bradley,
who's about your size right playing the two. Then they
got either Marcus Marter Terry Roch here playing like small forward,
Jalen Brown who's like six six six seven rookie playing
the four, or Jay Crowd who's like six five playing
the four, and then Al Horford playing the five like
and then you compare like the juxtaposition to which how
(31:35):
your team is built right with Zebo at the four
and Mark at the five, and you see so many
of these teams that are spreading it out and playing
small ball or playing from three point uh three point
and then layups, you know, the the new style of basketball.
I guess my question you is, do you think ultimately
you guys can win big in the NBA with the
traditional lineup that you guys have thrown out of here
(31:57):
for almost a decade now? Oh? You know, we we
believe in ourselves with the roster we have and the
guys that we as long as we played through our strengths, um,
as long as we have our big fellows. You know,
we gotta play throw the man um and for us,
you know, it's it's more so can we make ourselves
a hybrid? You know with our roster. Can we find
(32:18):
a way to get a little bit faster. Can we
find a way to spread the court or find different
lineups where we can create more space and shoot more
threes and and play a little bit more like today's
game because as we're staying around the league, that's where
everybody's headed and um they're at now and uh and
has caused um, you know a lot of teams to
to jump on board and be playing at all time
(32:40):
levels because of it. Can can I give you a
personal assessment, like, like you live this life, so you
can tell me. A lot of people point out, well,
you can't touch a guy in the perimeter that that's
really hard. But it's made even more difficult because the
NBA officials are allowing that big guy who sets the
high ball screen to move and it's called twisting right
to switch the ball screen angle at the very last moment,
(33:03):
which is what really makes it impossible to guard, isn't
it isn't that more part of what's creating these angles
for for the downhill drives than anything. UM. I have
to agree, Man, it really is tough as a defensive
players trying to guard um, you know, these quick, fast
athletic guards who already you know, don't meet no need
(33:25):
much help to get open um. You know, they're able
to get screens that you know, the big man can
go from side to side or you know, kind of
roll you into the pain as there is. They're you know,
setting the screen and a bunch of different things in
ways that they've become really good at setting screens that um,
you know, makes it very difficult for teams to defense.
For the first time in franchise history. To Memphis Grizzlies
(33:47):
players Mike Conley Jr. Who of course is joining us
right now and Zebo. Zach Randolph had been named finalist
for the two thousand sixteen two thousand and seventeen season
long NBA Cares Community Activists Award, which is presented by
Kai Is There Permanente. UH Fans can vote on Twitter
through May five, So that's through I think Friday. Hashtag
Zach Randof for hash hashtag Mike Conley, Like, couldn't you
(34:10):
guys just pull your votes right like you like listen,
we're on the same team. We're both trying to win
the same award like LAMBIA to pull our votes. We're
both doing good deeds. Here in Memphis. We both want
to win the award. I think that's the best idea
I've heard. Man, we we should have thought that from
the beginning, and uh we might have a chance. So no,
but it's great to uh to be a Monks one
(34:31):
of the finalists, and those bots say the same, and um,
you know we mean, you know, we we do a
lot in our communities and we're here. You know, it's
excited to represent them and and hopefully one of us
to get it. You signed that huge offseason contract. You
know I've caught up on this before, but did you
feel like people other guards came at you harder because
of that contract that you signed? Uh? You know, not really.
(34:54):
I honestly was spending too much of my time trying
to go as them what I'm saying, Like it was like, um,
I was trying to you know, just my responsibility was different,
so I was trying to adjust to it and and
concentrate on solely on that, not much you know what
other people were trying to do in regards to coming
(35:16):
at me. So you know, it made it a little
bit easier than trying to worry about other people. You
had this great sentence and I'm and I'm kind of
paraphrasing stuff and I butcher it. Forgive me my Conley
Junior joining us. UM, after you played so well against
the Spurs, even in the loss, even the losses, you
said that I'm not trying to prove people wrong. I'm
trying to prove the people who believe to me right.
(35:38):
Is that Is that accurate? That was that what you said? Yes? Yes, yeah,
you know it's it's true. You know that that you
know that that statement is something that Um, I've just
tried to live by, you know really and and because
I just after I signed a contract me as much
of negative things that came along with this, as far
as criticism and all the things that's going on, and
(36:01):
I kind of set back in and you know, maybe
realize that all the people who have you know, went
on a limb for me of helped me, UM, grow mature,
you know, have believed in me, and and those are
the people that matter the most. Why would I waste
my energy on the people who I don't even know,
who are negatively trying to affect me. So that was
(36:22):
the way I looked at it. Well, that that that
leads me to this last thing, Mike con Ley Jr.
Joining US, which is like value, Like I think I
think Russ is gonna win the m v P. I
think he had an incredible season. But he also led
the NBA in field goal attempts right like he shoots
a tunny, led the NBA in turnover as well. Whereas
the style by which you play point guard, I kind
of feel like it's only you and Chris Paul who
(36:44):
are more the troop point guards. And I know you're
called on to score and you have to lead your team.
How do we how should we have assessed like your value,
whether or not you're whether you're not you're playing well,
because the stats excuse so much in the favor of
guys who shoot more and maminate the ball more than
a guy like you are, a guy maybe to a
lesser stent like Chris Paul. Right. Um, yeah, you know,
(37:07):
to the end of the day's game, everybody looks at
the statu seats and if you don't have thirty or
fifty or forty or whatever and a triple double, you
you're you're not worth anything, or you didn't play well
or whatever it is. And um, I think for guys
like me and Chris, who, um are you know facilitators
mainly first and and and we can score the ball,
we can do whatever. But I think this our efficiency,
(37:29):
you know, the way we go about the game. You
know there'll be games where, um, you know you can
will shoot fifteen times total or you know ten of
fifteen and uh, you know just this, you know this
and steals and you're playing defense and all the things
that you did to help to win win the game. Um,
and you're able to dominate without you know, even showing
up stat sheet. And I think that's the difference. You know,
(37:52):
guards can still dominate games without um having to you know,
put up monster numbers. Yeah, I always and maybe it's
because I couldn't score. You could dominate a game without
even taking a shot. Case maybe that's that's a little
too much. So, but boy, you had an incredible season.
Whatever concert you get out to enjoy it. Enjoy the
fact you can still be incognito and then crushed dudes
during the during the NBA season. Appreciate all you've done
(38:14):
in the community. Was she the best of luck in
the Community Service Award and thanks me our guest on
Fox Sports Radio, Thank you appreciate it. All right, Mike
Conley Jr. Joining US
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