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May 19, 2017 • 42 mins

Doug explains why Ryan Fitzpatrick signing to be the backup QB for the Buccaneers makes perfect sense. He talks to future Hall of Famer and FOX Sports NFL Analyst Tony Gonzalez about concussions in the NFL. Plus Doug argues it doesn't matter how great Bryce Harper is, he's not worth $500 million.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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(00:24):
in broadcasting right now live on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh,
it's on an app. It's the fan page. Welcome in.
What a weird weekend sports. It's kind of been right.
It's like the calm before the storm and come before
several storms. Calm before the storm for the NBA Draft.
As the draft lottery produced kind of as predicted, the
Celtics continued to not mortgage their present for their future,

(00:48):
as their future holds a number one overall pick in
the upcoming NBA Draft. I guess the big news is
that the Lakers did secure a top three pick, number two,
which this the storm will be if and when they
elect a Lonzo Ball. We we asked Luke Walton, the
head coach of the Lakers, about a Lonzo and about
where they are. You can download that if you listen

(01:09):
to the Doug Gotlip Show podcast iTunes, Doug Gotlip Show
fan page, Twitter. We will blast that stuff out if
you haven't already received it. So look, there's a ton
of of interesting stuff to come in the NBA. The
Draft is going to be interesting. The NBA Finals is interesting,
even though the Western Conference Finals and Eastern Conference Finals

(01:30):
appear to be complete and total mismatches. Uh one because
of personnel and two because of injuries to the Spurs,
and three because it's just a mismatch with the Celtics.
So this is a weird week. It's like Yankees are
good in baseball, but we think they'll eventually level off
unless they add pitching. Cubs are very average right now,

(01:51):
but we assume at some point they'll wake up and start.
So there's not a lot there there. Rice Harper putting
up sick numbers. We'll talk about the potential for his
next contract later on the show. I guess the biggest
news is that Colin Kaepernick is still unsigned, and I
guess I'm supposed to be just appalled by the NFL.

(02:16):
But if you're gonna make the argument that he should
have been signed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers instead of
Ryan Fitzpatrick. Pretty much everybody with the brain is going
to disagree with you, right, Like, I'm not sitting here
to say if it's magic, what you saw two years
ago is real, and that he's a better quarterback at

(02:37):
his best at this point at thirty four years old,
than what Kaepernick might be able to give us. But
I pointed out to you that Colin Kaepernick was really
good in the NFL three years ago. Right four years ago,
he was awesome. The league has started to figure him out.
He had hand surgery, shoulder surgery, knee surgery. He's not

(02:59):
the same as he used to be then, he was vegan,
lost weight. In addition to the fact he was a
pain in the ass before he started protesting, which whatever
you think of his protest, look, if you runn an
NFL franchise, that becomes a pain in the ass too,
between dealing with sponsorships and and people being offended, and

(03:20):
just the idea that the focus of the locker room
becomes on him. And so when you factor all that in,
then you wait against Ryan Fitzpatrick. The problem becomes so
many of us think like one guy versus one guy
who's better, and that's not the way it works, um,
it just isn't. It's sometimes about fit, sometimes about timing,

(03:43):
sometimes about position. I'll give you an example in radio.
I host a solo radio show. I've done a two
person show. When you do a two person show, there's
first chair, their second chair. Not everybody is good at
first and second chair. A matter of fact, many people
are good at second chair if they're used to driving

(04:06):
a show. That's first year. If you've hosted your own show.
There's a complete reworking of your brain that comes to
working in a two guys show. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the
most accomplished pure backup in the NFL. Is there a ceiling? Absolutely?
Buffalo learned of that ceiling. Houston learned of that ceiling.
The Jets learned of that ceiling. Hell Cincinnati learned of

(04:27):
that ceiling. That guy's got a lot of stamps on
his NFL passport. But all of that is great data
for Jamis Winston because when you're a backup quarterback in
the NFL, there's really only two two types of player
who is a backup in the In the NFL, there's

(04:49):
the Ryan Fitzpatrick, right, who's the consummate backup, really smart,
well traveled, but no one, no one really wants to
see him on the field. You're season is the worst
for it if he's on the field, But you feel
like I could just get us, get us to the
finish line. He's fine, he doesn't whether he wants to

(05:09):
be the starter. Everybody wants to be the starter. But
the truth is, at this point in his career, he
understands his days of starting are likely behind him unless
injury thrust him in that starting role. And then you
have the young pup. You either have the old head
or the super young pup that's simply trying to accrue
data and time on the practice squad and time learning

(05:30):
from the starter. Those are the two guys. The guy
who wants to be the starter, who's probably good enough
to start in a couple of teams, that's a really
and he's kind of a unique specific fit, being an
athletic quarterback who's better out of the pocket than he
is in the pocket. Like that type of unique fit

(05:51):
is really really hard. It's not who's better, it just is.
I wish I could tell you that people who get
job opportunities, it's solely about who's better. That's not the
way the world works. It's just not the way the
world works. Sometimes it's a popularity contest. Okay, a lot

(06:12):
of times it's timing. Almost always it's fit and at
the end of the day, it's almost always about the money. Right.
Fitzpatrick has a backup made twelve million dollars last year.
This was probably the best possible opportunity. Whereas Kaepernick, it's
been reported he wants high level backup money. The Seattle

(06:33):
thing makes sense because there's part of what he does
that is similar to Russell Wilson, so that if Wilson,
God forbid for Seahawks fans ever got hurt, he could
go back there kind of like Russell Wilson, maybe run
around and make him play the way Wilson does on
third downs when that offensive line is putrid the way
it was much of last year, you know. And Russell

(06:55):
Wilson's a bona fide starter. I mean, look, God wants
Russell Wilson to win. Don't believe me, asked him. He's
got that magic water working stopped working for him. No
one is coming in and supplanting Russell Wilson. There is
no uprising for Rust Wilson. There's no uprising in Tampa
either for Jamis Winston. But what he needs in his
ear is somebody who's seen everything every defense. And I'm

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not sure if you're aware this has not been reported everywhere,
but Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. I know, I know,
you're like, wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, he went
to went to Harvard. But like, look, he's been everybody's backup.
He was Carson Palmer's backup. He was Shobs backup. He
was brought in to have this exact same role with

(07:42):
Geno Smith before Geno Smith got knocked out because he
didn't want to reimburse uh I k and In paul
A last year, going back a year and a half ago, right,
like he has been brought into this role before. It's
about timing, it's about fit. It's about who you are,
where you are your career. Colin Kaepernick doesn't know who

(08:02):
he is. And even though Fitzpatrick tried to get paid
last year, I think everybody knows this fits who fits
has always been in the league. It is as smart
a pick up for as a backup like this reminds
me of the D'Angelo Williams pick up by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Right,
like like, wow, that was a and you know, when

(08:24):
you don't have your starting running back, D'angela Williams in
a pinch was a tremendous starter. Like, that's who Fitzpatrick is.
He's played this role before. So you can say it's
about race, or you can say it's about protest. You
could say it's about being black balled. And maybe there's
a factor of all of those things, but the biggest
factor is Like if I told you Ryan Fitzpatrick was
signed to be a backup quarterback forget about Colin Kaepernick,

(08:47):
You're like, yeah, that kind of makes sense. I started
four years old, he didn't have an option to be
a starter. He already made a lot of money, and
this just keep the cheeps the checks coming in, and
hopefully he can be a good guide for Jamis Winston
as he continues to evolve into potentially being the quarterback
that everybody thinks he could be. I actually think it

(09:08):
makes a whole hell of a lot of sense. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Tony Ganzalz
is gonna join us. I'm not sure how many you
guys are aware, but Tony was my AU teammate going
back to high school days, and we played together in
the summers well in college in a in a league

(09:29):
called the say No Classic, So uh and uh. A
couple of years ago he played some pick up all
He's basically this. He's the exact same guy, the exact
same build, the exact same freak athlete competitor he was
when he was like sixteen. The only thing difference now, obviously,
is his bank account has grown exponentially and he's he's
also a beer snob, like he's traveled the world looking

(09:52):
for the world's best beers. And I'm actually I'm much
I'm okay with the beer snop wine snob guy. I
got a little bit more of an issue with like
the fact that you like when you sit down to
dinner and a guy's like, hey, let me take that
out order the wine, Like that just shows that your

(10:12):
interests are not aligned with mine. I'm not saying I
don't like a good glass of wine. Who doesn't like
but the idea that you can read any wine list
and then quote chapter in verse, what different wines are,
and what different years mean, and what different vintages are.
Whatever it is, boy, you you either you must not
have kids and have way too much time on your hands,

(10:34):
and your interests are in aligned with mine, whereas beer
snob guy, I'm a little I'm I'm much more okay
with I don't know why it is. Again, there's still
the you had a lot of time in your hands,
but there's it's it's a it's easy to relate, to
relate to beer snob guy. Speaking of beer snob, he's
a future Hall of Famer, He's the greatest tight end
the history of the sport. He's an f O. D uh,

(10:55):
Tony Gonzalez, Tony, what beer are you on right now? Like,
what's your what's your current go to h You mean
am I drinking right now? No? Not like an alcoholic
during the day. No. I was explaining to people how
you're kind of a beer snub. You're a well traveled
you're well traveled searcher of the greatest hops in the world.
So I'm just wondering, like you sit down and I'm
sure it's going to be an annoying order. Like the

(11:16):
restaurants like ah, you know I can do with something Mexican,
with some Mexican beer. What's your current go to? Well,
my current go to is obviously Modelo And because because
you're a sponsor from Madelo, that's a nice little plug.
I don't know if you meant to do that, but
I didn't. I I honestly paying me some money to
say that, But I would say that anyway because that's

(11:37):
a it's a great beer. Um, Okay, are you okay
with me liking a Modelo based Michelada? Yes? You like
that or no? I love it? I just I don't know,
like like you're kind of like you're an action star
now like you you you you you like you just
give off these hormones. You're more of a man than
I am. I just want to make sure, like I

(11:58):
understand I'm a good Modela, a special guy, but I
actually like a mishe Latta And I just don't know,
like that's not that's not a beer rita right, this
is that's still kind of a guy drink is its misha?
Am I okay drinking as Lada? You can drink of
Lata especially and actually that makes you, now, that makes
you really cool? If you can have one of those
on a Sunday morning with a brunch on a Monday morning.

(12:20):
That's that's That's something that I think comes off as
as a classic a guy who's in the know because
you don't see it that often. And you know, you're
like a hipster when you do stuff like that. Pretty cool, awesome, good.
I become a hipster. You live in l A. You're
more of a hipster. He's Tony Gonzalez, newest member of
our Fox family. Good to have you back in the
best coast. Um. Okay, So I I look at Ryan

(12:43):
Fitzpatrick signing with the Tampay Buccaneers, a guy who's been
a lifer as a backup and occasionally a starter, occasionally successful,
and I'm like, that makes sense. You've got a young
quarterback who needs somebody to call on, who's seen every defense,
seen every offense. He kind of he knows. He's a
great guy. Like I know, there's this uproar that Kaepernick
hasn't been signed, but the Fitzpatrick one makes total sense

(13:05):
to me. Doesn't make sense to you? Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean he's got like he just said, right there, Doug,
he's been around, Uh he knows exactly what this game
is about. He's been in one of the most pressured
situations ever coming from New York. I think it's a
great move by them because if you look around too,
and you look at the quarterbacks that have come into

(13:25):
this league. I did an analysis last year on it, UH,
and you'd be surprised that the quarterbacks actually coming to
this league, the young ones and the ones that have success,
they always have a veteran quarterback in that room with them.
They got to have that guy, Dak Prescott. He had
a veteran quarterback room, not just Tony Romo. I think
it was Wade Wilson uh in there. Uh, Jason came

(13:48):
up to Jason Garrett too. You gotta have these type
of guys in the room with you. Last year, Matt
Ryan had his best best UH career, had a career year,
and Matt Schaub was in that room with him. You know,
he had a nice veteran guy, a guy who started
and has some starting experience, who's seen it all before.
Jamis Winston now is going to be surrounded by a

(14:10):
guy not just his quarterback coach, but a guy who's
been around for a long time, who knows this position is,
it's gonna it's gonna do wonders for him. Um, your
your beautiful wife, wife October is Um. Look, she's she's
in the media, she's on TV shows, she's kind of everywhere,
and she's not shy about her opinions. Is she allowed
to share to share whether or not you had concussions

(14:31):
without telling anybody? Um, we look it before we get
to that, did you did you hear the latest with
my wife? Did you know what she's up to? Right now?
I'm gonna plug it because it is a Fox show. Uh,
next Thursday night, it's a show called Beat. She's Ane
b e eighth Jamie Fox's show. Yeah, October, the Lovely

(14:52):
October Ganzas she's, uh, she's kind of on the show
with him. She's I wouldn't say co host, but she's
like the DJ on the show. Now, So that exciting
for us. But what was your question? But I was
allowed to tell people that I had a concussion. You know,
I don't like like like Gazelle like Gazelle Like okay.
So Giselle said, like, well, we don't talk about it,

(15:14):
but he had a concussion last year. He's had a
bunch of concussions in the past's. I mean, I don't know,
like that she's kind of volunteering personal information. I just
wonder if October is like, yeah, hey Tony, Tony, I
play with concussions all the time. They don't know what
they're talking about. Like, is that is that cool for
an NFL player's wife to share that sort of information.
Obviously I would, I'd be I'd be rulling a bet

(15:36):
a lot of money that. I'm sure there was a
conversation had that night when that when that all hit
the fan. The other day, I'm sure Tom sat down
and said, look, Honnie, you can't you can't come out
and say stuff like that. That's very sensitive, uh stuff
to talk about in the in the media. But if
you take it even a little bit further, Yeah, I'd
come home some time and Toby would say, how you feeling.

(15:58):
I'm like, oh, I took a shot to the head. Uh,
it wasn't a concussion. But she and then she can
form her opinion off of that and say, hey, well,
you know, you probably had a concussion, and maybe I did.
I was a little slight one. This is this is football,
This is this is how it goes, uh, it doesn't.
You know, you get gamed up every once in a while,
but you know, when's a doctor. Doell is certainly not

(16:18):
a doctor. So we don't even know what really really
was going on. But maybe he had symptoms of of
just I'm kind of tired and I got hit in
the head and she's like, oh, you have a concussion.
But maybe she assumed it. But I'm sure there was
a conversation that would had there that that that, hey,
we don't talk about that, and I'm sure that's not
gonna be talked on anymore by her. Do you think
that that's her basically throwing it out there? Look, I
want him to retire because he's talking about now like

(16:39):
I'll play to him. Is that her way of saying, like,
you gotta shut this thing down? Maybe maybe I could.
If I were her, I would say that. Not because
I'm a Falcon fan and I wish the father would
have won the Super Bowl, But uh, but I I
look at it this way, Doug if If and I
said this the other day on calling Coward, I just

(17:00):
don't understand. I love Tom Brady's He's an unbelievable guy.
Obviously going to go down as as one of the
greatest efforts to put on a pair of shoulder pads.
At this point, if I were him, I just don't
see the benefit to keep playing. You've got five super
Bowl rings. Mean, it's not about the money, and it's
never been about the money with him. He's all about winning.

(17:20):
He's got to I just don't understand what what keeps
him motivating. And because of that, I just he's like
a freak of nature mentally to have that, because it
takes so much to play a football season. Every season
is like a freaking lifetime. It's like dog years. Uh.
It's like it's incredibly hard on your mind and your

(17:40):
body and your psyche. And for him to be able
to do this and maintain it and still want more,
I'm like, this guy is a special, special human being.
Tony Gonzalez, Fox NFL analyst joining us Doug Gottlieve's show
Fox Sports Radio. Um, speaking of guys that continue to
do it, you have to help me out with this.
I watch Antonio Gates run and I'm like, I don't
get how he's open, how he get gets the ball. Still,

(18:03):
I watched Jason Witten run and it's almost painful right,
Like it's no longer a smooth gate because he's played
so long every other position in the NFL. NFL guys like, dude,
when you can't run, you can't play, right. When ray
Lewis couldn't run anymore, he couldn't play anymore. I like
the best in the business once they how how what
is it about the position of tight end to which

(18:25):
you can lose a step but not lose a step
of effectiveness? You know? I think it's it's all angles,
especially because we're we're operating in the middle of the
field and you see those guys. They're not really going
downfield and catching those deep passes like they used to.
A lot of their routes are kind of those underneath routes,
kind of option routes. You go five to six yards,
or you go eight to nine yards. You really hardly

(18:46):
ever do anything above and beyond that or they're not
going to get the ball. And the thing about playing
a title. First of all, their big bodies. Both these
guys are two d sixty pounds. Uh, they're both around
you know, six four or six five. So when they
go up with what is absolutely essential for that Titan position,
you have to be able to come out of a
break because you've got that big body, and as long

(19:07):
as you can be quick, I still feel like, honestly,
I could go out there and I could catch fifty
six balls. Still if you said, all I have to
do is go five six yards, turn in, turn out,
or run out, because I'm still pretty quick, I can
get out of a route and those guys can. You
can take away their speed, but remember the defender, he
can only run as fast as you run anyway, so
it doesn't matter. And the team does not expect you

(19:28):
to go down the middle anyway. So you gotta be
able to run to five six yards and then come
out of that break like like like a rubber band.
It's got to be extremely quick. And as long as
you have that which can last a long time, you
can play in this league. Because they got great hands,
and they got good quarterbacks. You know they got you know,
Dak thrown to him Dak or Tony Romo over the years,
and you've got Philip Rivers, both those Philip Rivers is

(19:50):
a Hall of Fame type caliber player. So he's putting
that ball right in that spot where Tony uh Antonio
can get open all My last thing um before we
talk about made more interesting things like Shazam, which I'm
beat Jasam, which I'm kind I'm into that show. I
saw it when I was rolling to the Fox Slo.
I was like, dude, I think I could beat Jasam.
I'm really I got a really good mental roller dex
of of music. I guess it probably depends upon genre

(20:12):
more than anything. But but one more NFL question. You
mentioned the Falcons. That was the team you want to
playoff game with? You guys nearly went to the super Bowl.
I just look, they were young, they were super athletic.
They should have won the super Bowl. Had they had
they just run, they could have taken a knee up
twenty three and would have won the thing. How hard
is that in your in your opinion, how hard is
that going to be to get over Ah? For me me,

(20:34):
I think it's it's heartbreaking. It's it's like it's like
having Dayton the girl of your dreams, Dougie, and you're
in love with her and then she says, no, it's over. Uh,
and you thought it was she thought it was sure speaking.
I think it's I was actually I was thinking about
this this morning and this is what I'm This is
what I'm talking to. Put it this way. I wasn't
even in the game. I was there at the game,

(20:55):
but I wasn't playing. Obviously. I still know Matt. I
have a couple relationships Hulio Jones. I was rooting for him,
and I still think about this daily and had nothing
to do with me. It has nothing to do with
Julio's catching. Julio's catch could be the greatest catch in
the history of the Super Bowl, and yet no one
will ever mention it because they lost the game. Because
they lost the game, it was devastating. It's one of

(21:16):
those things I don't you never get over that, you know,
I feel I was talking to Matt the other day
about it, and I was asking my fields. He said, yeah,
you know, you have to look at the positive side
of it, but it's one of those things you'll never
give over that you can't. How do you get over
something like that. You know, you can put it aside
and you can say, Okay, it's not gonna hurt me
my feelings as much as it used to, but there's
always going to be a part of you that says, man,

(21:39):
we had it. It was right there all right. Last thing,
when when when do I? When do I get to
come over for the next fifth for the family dinner?
Because I got I was at one family dinner and
now my family? When when I'll bring I guess I
could bring them Adela's, but I think they're already gonna
be there right, Like that's part of the deal where
you get like cases upon cases for it. But but
you can You're you're an incredible cook. The family makes

(22:00):
everybody makes their own thing. When do I get the invite?
I mean, now we're back Fox family again. When when
can we make this happen? You can? We can make
this happen anything. You come on over, we'll sing some
songs were Actually, you know, Madella's obviously my favorite beer,
but there's another beer out there. Actually, I'm not gonna mention.
I don't want to say the Madella ads running you
tell me in person. I know it's an obscure beer.
You don't do that, I'll save I'll save you from yourself.

(22:22):
I don't have to hit the dumb button. Couldn't have
appreciate it. Appreciate and make sure you check out Sam
like you said, if you if you want obviously I
know the toga. I can get you on that show.
Maybe you know we will make some cash. But you
said I can get you on the show, but then
you maybe the backpedal of it. Can you get me
on the new Fox show Beaches Am? Or can you
not get me on the New Fox Show? I don't

(22:44):
know if you have the skills though, because you really
you gotta be skillful for that. Do you do you genres? Now?
Are you in eighties nineties? What would you do? What?
What genre? Would if I told you to pick a
John Is seventy, eighties and nines, what would you pick?
I would crush. Eighties and nineties I would crush I couldn't.
Seventies seventies is a little bit like my you know,
you have you played for my dad's You know, my

(23:04):
dad was like an old soul so like his music
was like, you know, orchestra music and and big band stuff.
So like he didn't raise me on Rolling Stones and
Crosby Stills. In Nash there there's a little bit of
a window there. But once you get to like eighties
and things that were you know, I used to listen
to Rick Dy's every day. Uh yeah, I'd be I
would I think I would do quite well. It's really

(23:26):
more about memory more than anything else, and I got
a pretty good memory. Okay, okay, I'm a how much song?
And let me say how quickly you can get it from? Okay? Ready, yeah,
okay ready yeah d D Billy Jean. Yeah that took
you like three seconds, though you would have lost somebody

(23:46):
who knew that song well. And also you have to
get you have to start with done done, done done.
That's actually how you would have started. You wouldn't go
Denton and done Denton then, because you know. I also,
I honestly thought for a second it was from the
night Writer video game. Don't if remember the night Writer
video game, because because that's kind of what its satellite

(24:07):
it does a little anyway, I do. That's that's night right.
I'm it was night right. It was the video game.
I can't remember a spy Hunter. I'm spy Hunter's name
of Spy Hunter's name of the video game. All right,
we'll do this again in person. We gotta find some
pickup ball spot in the meantime. I like the new
goate It is good for all your action movies that

(24:28):
you're gonna start in as You're the next Rock, You're
the next stray Hand. We all know that. Good to
have you on the team. We appreciate you joined us.
Appreciate it. Tony Gonzalez, that's my MODELO beer hook up.
It's really why we had him on. If it's free,
it's me and Tony is gonna get me free. Madela.
That's that's pretty much how it goes. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays

(24:48):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Draymond Green does
actually agree with me on Clay Thompson snub of the
All NBA team quote, Oh you know what, here's Draymond
talking about. Yeah. I think it's when you look around,
team probably want six or seven games or something like that,
and we probably just handed teams three or four talking

(25:11):
to possible seven in win season. Thinks Clay is one
of our top three guys, you know, and to not
beyond the NBA team, I think it's pretty crazy. You know,
it's some it's some guys on their ask scores average
in twenty points and don't have as nearest monitor wins
as we have, you know, so how he could be
left out. I don't really understand it, you know. Also

(25:33):
the way Clay can defend, I don't understand it. But
I guess they gotta find somewhere to punish us. I
don't like, you know, I like he actually gets like
punished them like he probably shouldn't been. He shouldn't been
on the All NBA team, Like, hey, you know, to
put the guy on, we gotta take a guy off.
Why don't we take you off? And I understand the
Draymond Green is a tremendous defensive player. He's the He's

(25:54):
in the perfect system, he's the perfect fit. He gives
them a little bit of nasty. He gives them a
guy who can play multiple positions. He can guard centers,
he can shoot some threes, he can do a little
bit of everything. But like his Draymond Green a better
basketball player than Clay Thompson. No, did you have a
better year than Clay Thompson. I don't think so. But

(26:15):
apparently of the hundred writers, more people believed he did.
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for the most part, we have an unbelievable sports radio
lineup and uh. While other networks are breaking up their shows,
are you're doing okay? Fine? Uh, we continue to just

(26:41):
add power after power after power and uh. I I've
been on his show a bunch. I like his show,
even like his Facebook Live stuff. But every once in
a while, even national guys become local Yoko guys. Uh,
let's every day at this time we try and play
you a piece of audio from one of our spectacular
partners shows at Fox Sports. Right do we call it?

(27:02):
What did the Fox say? And now? All right? So
Clay Travis was on earlier today. He lives in Nashville.
He's kind of like the King of Nashville and the Preds.
I think they won last night in hockey. UM. I
only know this because he tweeted out, not because I watched.
So he had this to say about the NHL playoffs

(27:23):
in comparison to the NBA playoffs. There is no dispute
at all that the NHL playoffs are infinitely better than
the NBA playoffs. I don't know how many of you
watched last night's Ducks Prets game, but it was better
than just about any NBA playoff game that has happened
all season long. In fact, I'm pretty confident that it was.

(27:46):
And I'm pretty confident that other than maybe Game six
of Wizard Celtics, there hasn't even been a game that
was close to as good as this. Um, yeah, I
don't know if that's true. I mean a game one
of Warriors Spurs, although Kawhi Letter did get hurt so
that allowed Golden State a little bit of a boost.

(28:06):
That was pretty exciting game. And look, he's not wrong,
like hockey can be more exciting. It just can't make
me care more. It's just I don't know how to
explain it to a hockey guy, Like we don't necessarily
hate hockey, we just don't get hockey. And it's really
hard to make us try and love hockey when we

(28:28):
don't understand. It's hard to watch on TV. It's trying
hard to like parachute in and just go like, oh
this is awesome. Is it close? Sure? Is it competitive? Absolutely?
Is it exciting if you're into that kind of thing.
But you know, when you don't know the big names,

(28:49):
you don't really get the sport. We didn't play it
growing up, like you saying continue to say like this
is better, this is better, this is better, Like okay,
it just doesn't me care more, And that doesn't make
me a bad person for admitting what we all know.
I also think it's funny that like he went to
a Nashville Predator games, like that's that's the greatest thing ever,

(29:12):
Like NASCAR guy going like you have to go, like, no, don't. Hey,
I watched the end of the day Town of It
was exciting. I was sitting there next to my son.
We're like, hey, you work for Fox. He's like, Dad,
you work for Fox. Can we go? I was like, yeah, okay,
and I'm sure the end is going to be exciting.
The Kentucky Derby is super exciting. Doesn't make me care
about how horse racing does it is the Preaknics. This weekend,

(29:38):
it's gotta be this weekend, right, doesn't it? Is it
next weekend? Anybody have any idea? Honestly, every year there's
a super it's this. It's like, wea this weekend right
should be an especially fast Preaktice though, and then the
Preakness that makes the Belmont either the biggest race ever
or just another race, and all depends. Do you remember

(30:02):
the name of the horse that won the Kentucky Derby?
It was only two weeks ago. Be sure to catch
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three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Everyone likes to think
they know how much they're worth. How much are you worth?
How much you worth? You know what you're worth, worth
what somebody will pay you, and you're worth what somebody

(30:23):
will pay you. And I understand that Bryce Harper, his
contract is going to be up at the end of
two thousand eighteen, and he's going to be the biggest
name in a in a free agent class. And he's
got Scott Boris, who's going to write a book that's
gonna tell us exactly why Bryce Harper has to be

(30:43):
the first five million dollar man. I understand that. And
it's not crazy if you calculate inflation, you calculate the
money that these teams are making to get him somewhere

(31:04):
in that realm in terms of average salary. Now, the
there's other parts to it that to me, people aren't discussing.
But you've heard it here first. There is no way
in hell his next contract will be over four million dollars.
There is no way in hell it'll be over five dollars.

(31:27):
It's just not. And look, if I'm the Washington Nationals
and ain't gonna be over three hundred million dollars, I'll
just Altbert pool Holds you. I'll offer you a huge,
huge contract, but one that is not enough to keep you,
but enough to look my uh to, to look my

(31:47):
fans in the I and say we made a legit
push to keep him. Now, unlike pool Hols when he
signed the big deal, when Bryce Harper comes of age
at the end up next year, he will only be
twenty five years old. So if he signs a ten
year deal and it tops out at you know, it

(32:08):
averages out at thirty million a year and it becomes
a three, it's at least the back end of it
isn't as bad as Poolholes. He's arguably the second best
young player in the sport. Mike trusts the best. The
first part to this argument is is I'll share with

(32:31):
you a story. The story is this, I own a piano.
It's a baby grand piano. I don't know anything about pianos. Okay,
I don't know anything. Like my kids. They learned to
play the piano, and they're very young. My wife knows
how to play the piano. I love when one of
my children or my wife they sit down they start

(32:51):
playing it like just I don't know, it feels like
a home if your house feels like a home when
somebody's playing a piano or somebody's playing music, especially when
they're playing it fairly well. I have a daughter who
she plays the violin. Now she's played some cello. She
hadn't taken piano lessons in like six years, and she
can sit down and print out music and then play
it on piano. Like wow. I have no musical skill

(33:12):
at all. I struggle with how to download music, let
alone sing or play music. But I love the fact
that we have a piano and occasionally it gets used.
But buying a piano is a money loser, and buying
a piano is worse than buying a car, like by
everybody says like buying a car is the worst investment

(33:33):
because the second you drive it off the lot, the
value plummets. It does, but at least you drive that car.
You buy a piano, it has very little value in
comparison to what you paid for because one you rarely
use it too. It collects a bunch of dust, and
everybody's wife or significant other hates the dust. Three, it
takes up a bunch of space, so you have to
have a bigger house in order to have a piano.

(33:54):
And four, most importantly, even if you can sell it,
you gotta move the thing, and nobody wants to move
a piano. I still love how to piano. So my
wife had like a stand up jobby piano. She learned
to play when she was a kid. She grew up
in a small outside of a small town in Oklahoma,
and it was it was nice, it was cute, but

(34:15):
it wasn't like a real piano. So um, at some
point we started looking on the internet and we're looking
at pianos whatever, and like everybody starts to think, like, oh,
I'm gonna get one of the name brands. And we
got a decent name. So I saw this piano in
Boston and an older couple and I had a buddy
who he sells wholesale art, and he's like, look, I

(34:37):
know this piano. It exists. It's really nice. It has
this uh you put a CD in and it becomes
a player's piano. As well, which is kind of cool.
And these old people are trying to sell it. They
used to have a shop. The shop closed down. They've
been trying to sell it privately. It hasn't worked. So
I called an older gentleman. He starts tell me about

(34:59):
his piano, and I said, how much do you want
for it? He's like, well, right now at auction, Uh,
the reserve is I don't like five thousand dollars and
no one's met the reserve. You bid five thousand dollars,
you'll get the piano. I waited for the bidding process
to end, and I offered him thirty to the piano.
His wife picks up the phone, Sonny, you don't know

(35:19):
anything about pianos, and said, ma'am, I do not. She said,
you don't anything, but this piano has been tuned. This
piano was once the biggest piano maker in It's not
a Steinway. It's biggest piano maker in North America. North America.
This used to be what they play with vaudeville. And
it's really worth fifteen thousand dollars. And it's done this

(35:41):
and STU done that. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful person.
Please furniture. And I said, I'm not disputing any of that, right,
But here's the thing. You have two options here, hold
on the piano and wait for a price for something
that no one has been upon, or you can take
my bid, which frankly is it's it's I'm over paying

(36:02):
for it, but I'm willing to pay for it because
I include shipping with it, like, ohay, give you bucks.
It's really bucks. Cost a thousand bucks to move it down.
Was in Connecticut. Time moved down, they set it up,
all that stuff. It's like, the piano is worth fifteen dollars.
And I said, ma'am sir, listen respectfully, the piano is
worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. Got

(36:25):
the bucks right, so Bryce Harper, and look, this is
classic Scott Boors, right, five hundred million dollars. So if
you sign them for three hundred million dollars, like, dude,
we saved two hundred million dollars, Like, no, you didn't.
You spent thirty hundred million dollars on one position player.
The first thing is is anybody worth that money? And

(36:47):
the answer is no. The answer is no. And here's
the logical reason. Why would you guys at least agree
with me. I believe Mike Trout is the best player
in baseball. I'm also an Angel fan. My son wears seven.
I've gotten to know him a little bit. I've been
to Angel games. There's a difference. It's just a different
vibe when he comes up to the plate. I actually

(37:08):
think playing well on a bad team in many ways
at the end of the season, is harder than playing
well on a good team. Right, anybody can show up
to work when things are going great and perform at
their peak. Can you perform at your peak when the
season is over at mid season like it was last
year for the Angels? But that aside, can we at
least agree with the argument that he's one of the
two or three best players in baseball? That a fair argument?

(37:32):
Were the Angels any good last year? Was Mike Trout
any good last year? Mike Trout was the best player
in baseball or one of the top two or three
players in baseball last year and the Angels were terrible?
There If a quarterback has his best career year or

(37:52):
is the best quarterback in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers, for example,
incredible year last year, made the play else right, granted
more teams in the playoffs slightly more, although they could
have added some of the playing games in baseball, If
a basketball player has is one of the two or
three best players in the game, and everybody thinks, so,
won't they make the playoffs? Won't they be more competitive? Like? Look,

(38:15):
in baseball, one guy just cannot shift the balance of
power that well. But here's the more important thing. He might,
on paper, in comparison to all the grades of the game,
be worth more money, not just because of the position
he plays. He hits from the left side of the plate,
he's in his prime, etcetera, etcetera. He's been underpaid because

(38:37):
of the collective Barton agreement where the first four years
in baseball you make a million, you make two million dollars.
This is the first year he's making thirteen million dollars.
Next year he makes twenty two or something. Right, Like,
all of those things might be true, but you're worth
what somebody will pay you. Okay, The Angels aren't paying
him three plus million dollars. They've already done that once.

(38:59):
It's not working with pool holes. Even if Harper would
be a better investment, the Dodgers aren't They're not gonna
come out of pocket for one guy to that amount.
The Red Sox aren't. Oh, they got Mookie Bets, they
got other star players. Like, why would they put all
their eggs in one basket. The Cubs already have dudes,

(39:19):
they already have to resign those guys they're not. The
Yankees have some of the best young players in baseball.
Why would they tip the scales and go old school Yankees?
They've already said the days of overpaying for one or
two guys like those are over baseball And now is
about how many the depth of quality arms you can get.

(39:42):
Then you have to have an ACE or two for
the playoffs, you have to have fill out the back
end of your bullpen with a ton of arm talent.
And then how many young players can you get that
are still under club control in that first six years
That are everyday players that will eventually be stars and
maybe they sign elsewhere, Like that's what baseball is about.
Out sprinkle in one free agent here, one free agent there,

(40:03):
one free agent here. I'm not even saying, like you
can make the calculation that Bryce Harper, like, you know what,
four hundremillion dollars baseball teams are making a ton of
money because of their regional sports networks because a hundred
sixty two games, he's unbelievably productive. Last year he led
the league, even though uh right now, last year he
had a down year. This year he's leading the league

(40:25):
in O B P. Two years ago he led the
league at O b P and O P S and
o P S plus. Al Right, he won the m
v P two years ago. He'll be a leader for
the you know, he'll be a leader to be the
m v P. This year he's leading the league in
runs and they're in first place. But tell me who's

(40:46):
going to pay that money? Like the Mariners paid two
d fifty million dollars for Robbie Cano, he's the best
second baseman in baseball? Has it changed them? The truth
is that Trout is more valuable, or Harper could be
more valuable on a really bad franchise, because why the

(41:08):
hell else would you go to an Angel game other
than to see Mike Trout. I mean, it's like the opposite.
Like the only franchises that could pay him that kind
of money will be the big name good franchises. But
they won't and and they shouldn't because he doesn't bring
because the two things that bring people to the yard

(41:28):
our teams that win, and then at the very bottom,
you've gotta have a start to make me get in
my car and drive when I could see every game
on TV. Like the quote here from one GM is
he's twice a player of Gjihn Carlos Stanton suggested that
four million dollars is the absolute baseline for the Harper deal.
Stanton's current deal is three five million dollars. Okay, maybe

(41:53):
he's twice twice the player, but we'd all agree John
Carlos Stanton's pretty awesome. If you go back, uh two
year years ago when John commn when he got hit
in the face with a baseball, he led the league
in every offensive category, every should have been the m
VP was a joke, and he had missed on like
last thirty games or forty games like who cares? Like

(42:15):
he was the best offensive player in in Major League Baseball.
So I would disagree with that he's twice the player.
But if we all agree that John Carlos Stanton is
awesome and has been awesome and continues to be awesome,
and his young and yet to maybe even reach his prime.
How the Marlin has been is that money well spent.

(42:37):
You're worth what somebody is willing to pay you, not
what you can not, not some imagined value. Just like
the piano I bought wasn't worth fifteen dollars. It was
worth what I was willing to pay, which, Franklin, was
probably too much, because I was been against myself
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