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This is the best of the dun got Lea show
on Fox Sports Radio Boom, What Up America, Welcome in
Doug Gotlip Show, Live and direct from the City of Angels.
The was he got June gloom. It's May gray starting
to burn off, which means sunny. And I'd even checked
the weather day and I know it's sunny in seventy five.
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Why because it's Los Angeles. Uh, we got a lot
to get to. We're continuing to just wait and wait, wait.
On the NBA Finals, I may tell you of a
special trip that I had planned with my buddy Colin Cowherd,
to which I got shot down for. I said, everything up,
and I think I got shot down for Chris Bruce
Arto join us upcoming in twenty minutes. I want to
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talk with him about the pressure of the NBA Finals
and how I kind of think we are looking at
the wrong targets of that pressure, Like we're looking at Lebron,
We're looking at Kevin Durant. I I'm not saying that
there's not pressure in a burden on both of those
players and turn of their legacy. But there's another one
who we haven't mentioned much of, and I think he's
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carrying a burden. I think this is a huge finals
for his ultimate legacy and for how we view him,
you know, all of his greatness. We got that. I
want to talk about some baseball how yesterday was the
biggest and best day for Major League baseball and has
nothing to do with any of the the hits, the pitches,
or even unfortunately the injury to Mike Trout. Get to
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that upcoming. Drew Brees will join us from the New
Orleans Saints, will ask him how much he thinks a
d has in the tank, and Reggie Bush, former teammate
of Drew Bush. Drew Brees will join us later on
in the show A lot to get to Tiger Blue
A blue Tarski. God, that's a dated reference, right like
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Grant music is like fifteen years old. He has no
idea what blue Tarsky is. Blue Tarsky is blue? Do
was blue shis character in Animal House and uh Dean
Wurmer comes in at the end to Neat says, you
know you have a zero point zero g p A
so forever that's as blue Tarski. He's like the comedic character. Anyway,
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go watch Animal House. It is a classic uh doesn't
all stand up the test of time. I've seen it,
but I just don't know it word for word, like
you should know Blue Tarski is something. There's it's there's
a reason that you should watch some of these classic
movies and the Blue Tarsky reference, much like the reason
that when you're in junior high school. In high school
you read classic books like you read Canterbury Tales, not
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because you take a ton from it, but if there's
a reference to Canterbury Tests like oh or or Lord
of the uh Flies, right, you know about fighting for
the Kunk. You need to know some of these historical
references movies, literature otherwise, so that you can when people
use them. You're not sitting there go NodD in your head,
thinking I have no idea what he's talking about. Fair.
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It's always fair. That's that's honesty. But not a lot
of people are as honest. So Tie it was blows
the Blue Tarski. In other words, what he stated yesterday
is in fact true. Tiger Woods got pulled over for
driving under the influence because, as there's in the police
report today, passed out behind the wheel of his car
car running, which to me is super super scary. I've
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been hit by a drunk driver guy blew up point
to four, and he was sort of alert. But the
idea that you could be asleep behind the wheel of
really a loaded weapon just shows how lucky we are
that tigers with us and that he didn't kill anybody
else in the process. And I think there's a side
discussion here to be had. Like I've never been on
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prescription pain medication and just have it. I've never taken
a VICU and never taken an oxy, never taken any
of that stuff. It's been really fortunate. Like the only
surgery that too surch surgeries in my life, and like
one was like oral surgery that was like totally noninvasive.
So I can't tell you that I would not be
addicted to pain killers, but I do know that pain killers,
when you become an adicted to them, or if you
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take them in the wrong combination, are way stronger than
for example, marijuana. But like that's it is dangerous stuff
to be taking and getting behind the wheel of a car.
And then a lot of guys take him and then
you you know, you drink something to go with it
to shoot it down, and yet knocks away the pain,
but then you can completely loopy. So there is a
portion of this discussion which maybe and I don't know
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if he's abusing them. I don't know if it's just
the pain or if he's as prescribed using the medication
because he's had these four back surgeries. I don't know.
What I do know is that Tiger woods personal life
has become a part of his public persona. And I
discussed this earlier on with Colin Cowherd. And however you
feel about about Tiger, I feel sad for him. I do.
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I feel sad for him because his legacy is forever
tarnished what he did so far on the golf course.
And I hope it's not the end of Tiger on
the golf course. What he's done on the golf course,
he's as good as anything we've ever seen. Like they
changed golfer of courses, they tigger rized golf courses. This
is it's like we talked about Creamy Abdul Jabbar. Cream
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abdul jar is so good. They didn't allow dunking in college.
They didn't allow dunkey in college because he was so dominant.
They changed golf courses because they were trying to keep
up with not just the new equipment but also with
the new player in Tiger Woods. They tried to make
it harder because he made it look so easy. If
you pulled players that are thirty year under on the
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tour and asked them, hey, why did you stick with
golf instead of another country club sport, they would all
say elder Tiger Woods. So he went from the pre
eminent not just golfer in the world, but quite possibly
athlete in the world, like post Michael Jordan's athlete. He's right,
he was right up there with all of the greats.
He was musty TV on a Sunday. Things you could
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count on a Sunday was if Tiger had the lead,
he was coming through in the end of a major,
and the sun was setting a rise in the east
set in the west. I just want to make sure
I didn't want to screw that one up, right. But
but I think what's what's fascinating about Tiger is that
he's lived through two different eras. People always talk about.
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You know, Babe Ruth used to be on the train
with reporters drinking, womanizing, nobody said anything, and that stretched
all the way to the Michael Jordan era helps uh,
Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley, Yes, he got arrested for throwing
a guy through a plate glass window. We didn't laugh
about it. Now he got pulled over for d U
I s during post career as well. Michael Jordan famously
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was a womanizer. Would would go the day of a
game and play thirty six holes of golf. Now, part
of it was he always produced, but part of it
was it was a different era to where what you
did off the court, off the field, off the course,
we don't really care about, or we just turned a
blind eye too, Like I kind of hurt rumors about it.
We didn't really know, didn't really care. Tiger lived in
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started in that generation and now is in the generation
of we really super care like I do. I think
the Perkins waitress is the worst notch on the belt. Probably.
I don't know anything about the woman, just the idea
of some of the things you read like a lot
but a lot of work, a lot of effort there.
But the idea that I know about that, I guess
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I'm supposed to care. I wasn't married to Tiger, so
he didn't violate my trust. I don't care, but many
of you feel like he violated your trust. He's a
different person and this has been a the most precipitous
fall we've ever seen in sports, in my opinion. O. J.
Simpson had he was at the top of the football heat,
he had the Hurts commercials, he was on TV and yes,
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now he's in jail and we all believe that he
murdered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown. Simpson that said, there
was so much space in between when he was a
superstar and the downfall as opposed to Tiger Woods from
O eight and he has played good golf since O. A.
He did win. He won more tournaments than anybody on
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tour a couple of years ago. But between the stories
of his womanizing, the end of his marriage, the death
of his father, the surgery to his knee is Achilles,
tendon force surgeries to his back, multiple swing changes, the
coaching changes, pulling out of tournaments, and that of course
culminating in the mug shot. When you saw that mug shot,
even when you read Tiger Woods statement, Hey, I wasn't drinking.
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This is prescription pain meds. Here's all you need to
know about the level of trust you have in Tiger Woods.
Did you believe him up until the police report came
out today? Did you believe him? And the answer is
most likely no, he didn't because you're you're trained to
not trust Tiger because you know about Tiger's background and
what he did when he was married, right or even
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what he did he was, what he was in a
relationship with Lindsey Vaughan, And so there's a there's a
parallel there to like a Carmelo Anthony. I was why
to this video on Twitter of Carmelo Anthony putting in work,
working out on his game, and you always working on
uh post up, post up shots, mid range game. He's
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got the best mid range game. He is the best
post up wing players three four in the NBA in
the last one of years. He's that good. He's got
Dudes got all kinds of game, can score it what's
called three levels from three mid range, in the post
or at the rim. But like Carmelo Anthony has played
through two different eras, and like Tiger Woods has struggled
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to adjust to the new era. Nobody posts up anymore
in the NBA. Why it's not really an efficient shot? Yeah,
we want you to shoot threes, driving kick or driving
it all the way to the tin. Don't get me wrong,
it's still effective to every once in a while post up.
But when that's the focus of your game, like dude
Carmelo at this point in your career, you should be
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working on all pick and pop or or driving off
a ball screen. That's what offensive basketball is. And maybe say, well,
he wants to play within the triangle, and this is
within the triangle. And that's one of the things that's
affected Phil Jackson in the triangle offense. I'm fascinated by
people who failed to evolve in the times and get
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caught up in a foregone era. And I think that's
our problem with tiger Woods, and maybe Tiger Woods is problem.
And it's likely unfair to tiger Woods because he was
trained in an era in which we didn't care. Nobody cared,
we care what Jordan did. I think we didn't really care. Obviously,
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Jeter has been able to kind of master this thing.
Up until the time he was married. Nobody said a
bad word about him. Like the worst thing we ever
said about Derek Jeter was he left a really nice
gift bag for chicks that left his house like, if
that's the worst thing you can say about a guy, like,
that's not actually bad. Set in the bar a little
high for the rest of us, though, Jeets barlat So,
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Tiger is was not boozing. I was using prescription pain meds.
We don't know if he's an addict, but the lack
of trust that we have in him can be summed
up quite simply. And when he said, when you found
out yesterday that Tiger Woods said or tweeted out that
he was not drinking, did you believe him? And the
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most likely answer I would guess from maybe even nine
of you is hell, no, I didn't believe him. Got
pulled over, du I must have been drunk. Now it was,
in fact prescription payments. Some of that is our inherent
belief that everybody's gotten behind the wheel with a couple
too many pops in their system, but most of it
is the lack of trust we have in Tiger Woods.
And we only have that lack of trust because we
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know about his personal life, which twenty years ago we
had no idea. Be sure to catch live editions of
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noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio your app. A player who most people think is
disliked by veterans, Bryce Harper since he spent three years
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um and they won the World Series that year. So
I wasn't really thinking about it at all. Uh, but
you know when somebody comes at you like that, and
it was a nightmile on our fastball, Uh you know
where he did. I wasn't very happy with it, and uh,
you know, I just took it into my hands, I guess,
and you try to go after that's that's that's price Harper.
I like, look, in many ways, Brice Harper probably overreacted.
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No Hunter Strickland carrying a grudge for three years, and
anybody who says like that was there was no purpose
to that pitch. Like you hit him in the hip.
That's where you're if you're throwing out a guy, that's
actually exactly what you're supposed to. So part of it
is like Bryce Harper, hey duty just hitching the hip.
But part of it is did you see that Buster
Posey didn't do any He didn't move right. When you're
the catcher, like that's your your job is to stand
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in between him, talk him down, grab him at least
give your picture a chance to get ready for a guy,
even if even if it's fake. Here's Buster Posey after
the game, after it half, and I kind of saw
Harper point and then you know, the next thing you know,
he's going out after him, and uh yeah, I miss
some big guys tumbling around on the ground. You see,
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Mike Morris is about as big as they come, and
he was getting knocked around like a pinball. So um
bill dangerous to get in get in there sometimes. Wait,
So Buster Posey is going business decision on us as
a business decision. I remember that time I broke my
leg and half when I was playing catcher and they
changed the rules of at the plate because of that play,
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and I came back on the m v P of
the National League the very next year. I don't buy
that for one second. I think he knows exactly what happened.
And he's like, dude, that's weak that you're throwing out
a guy because he hit two bombs off you three
years ago in the playoffs and we won the World Series.
But hey, if you're gonna throw at him, then you
gotta be able to, you know, stand up for yourself.
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The fact is. It was on every different news station,
every different sports network. How I'm talking about it? Why
shouldn't I talk about posey talking about the the evolution
of Bryce Harper, who obviously that we haven't heard any
of this. Remember when Bryce Harper first got in the
Bigs and Cole hamiles throughout him, he just threw out
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because like yeah, like com was not even a tough guy,
and he took on the tough guy that show the
rook kind of the ropes for no apparent reason. Now
Bryce Harper is being allowed a free pass to run
and punch and and have a kerfuffle with Hunter Strickland,
which which shows he's respected in this league. It was
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on Memorial Day, a day when people watch baseball. It
wasn't anything else going on, and suddenly we care. Suddenly
we care about the series. We care about Bryce Harper,
we care about Hunter Strickland, we care about carrying a grudge,
We care about it. Would do you get suspended when
like you have to defend yourself. You have to defend
yourself in the National League where pitchers have to go
hit then the next inning. What a great day for baseball? Huh?
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This is what Steve Kerr had to say in regards
to the fact that the Warriors, not the Cavaliers, are
the favorites heading into the series the traffic. We're not
I saw it quote from Love. I'm surprised to like,
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what the hell they were funny talking about there are
great teams very last year. Yeah, very reasonable. I do
think that, like Steve, we're also aware you guys added
Kevin Durant. They did not, right, like, oh yeah we did.
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We added Kevin do we had thirty five wasn't here
last year? And remember they also I don't know if
you guys remember when Boget got hurt. It showed that
the Warriors had to go to their bench inside Joe
Bob came in and played big minutes for the Calves
and he was terrible as opposed to JaVale McGee, who
has been really good this year. Warriors are you're older,
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Steph healthier? Uh, the bench very different and maybe not
as deep, and the Calves have kind of reconfigured. This
is I think it's safe to say that in terms
of talent wise, name wise, this is the most talented
team the Calves have had. Delhi was more in his prime,
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whatever Deli's prime is, as opposed to Derren Williams, who's
the shell of the Darren Williams that used to be
an All Star. But Darren Williams used to be an
All Star, right, So I'm I'm fascinated by the fact
that the narrative is going to be about Lebron and
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about Kevin Durant, and yet the guy who probably has
the most to gain is Steph Curry, the guy who
has the least to lose his Kyrie Irving, Right, Like,
Kye Irving got hurt two years ago, so that l
doesn't really go on him. Last year, he was awesome
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down the stretch, I mean just awesome, thoroughly dominant, He
hit the big shot, and yet no one is saying, like, hey,
you know, if Kyrie wins is his second title, it's like,
now this is Lebron's fourth. He gets no credit for
a win and really no blame for the loss. Kyrie's
in a good spot, but not a really rewarding spot.
As opposed to Steph Curry, who, if you have a
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negative thought, about Steph Curry. It is only because the
finals last year and maybe a little bit the finals
year before, he was kind of underwhelming as well, even
though he was great down the stretch. But people point
out he was great down the stretch because he wasn't
a going against Kyrie Irving was going against Matthew Dellavedova,
right who got worn down by playing huge minutes and
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just you start to see Deli's Deli ceiling right and
right before your eyes in the like fascinating. Fox Sports
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com and within the I Heart Radio app. I don't
understand why they're not clearing out Tony Romo's locker right,
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like it's over done finished And I have some of
this myself, like where I have trouble. I hang on
to stuff all the time. Are you I'm not a
pack rat? It's not like, um, have you ever seen
the TV show Hoarders? Well, is that some scary stuff? Now?
My mom is not a hoarder. She a little bit
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of pack rat. Like you walk in like oh and
I saw this and when you're in high school, like wow,
mom a long time ago, but like that's kind of
how the cowboys are here. They're not clearing out his locker,
they're not giving way his number. Like let's just kind
of let's come on, keep the train moving here. You retired,
you left, you're covering games now. And then there was
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this really weird quote from Wade Wilson where he told
scout dot Com that it would be fun for fans
to speculate that Tony Romo would come back if Dak
Prescott got hurt. You explain that to me, how you're
starting quarterback getting hurt and the word fun coming into
the same sentence. I'm not somebody who like I don't
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care about walking under a ladder, and I'm not like
you know, I don't have to do the same thing
every day. I'm superstitious. I don't think that the Madden
curses real, But I do think there's a certain I
don't know, sensitivity or reasonable in terms of things you
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don't say, Like you don't ask a couple when they
get married, like on their wedding night, like they come
around if you're I've been wedding a long time, and
I still think this holds true where they come around
to the every table and say hi to everybody. Right,
you get a chance to try. And that's one of
the things about your wedding nights, Like I really didn't
want to I like all you people, but I kind
of want to pay attention to her. That was kind
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of the thing. She's in this awesome dress. She looks
beautiful and she smells good. Can we clear out? Can
I get back to the you know, consummating the marriage anyway?
But somebody comes over to your table, you don't first
thing in your mind is like, well, you know, like listen,
if this doesn't work out, you know, Jimmy still attracted
to you, you'd still get him back. You guys, did
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you guys do a prenup? Like there's just certain things
that it's not like there's there's nothing legally wrong, and
it doesn't mean that mentioning a pre nup or mentioning
a former boyfriend is going to undo the marriage. But
you just don't do it. I So Wade Wilson's like, oh, yeah,
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you know, it's hard to say his conversation about Tony,
what's he doing? Is he going to Houston? It's fun
to speculate that if Dac were to go down and
we two would Tony come back? Well, how is that
fun for anybody to speculate? Yeah? If if Dak suffered
like some gruesome leg injury, you know, like like, um, yeah,
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you know what happened up in the Minnesota last year, right,
like yeah, Teddy Bridgewater, you ower his leg nearly fell
off of his body. Like if that happens, kind of
fun to speculate. How is that fun? I'd be super fun.
Our choices are brittle, old Tony Romo, who's probably a
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little plump because they do feed you good at CPS.
I can tell you, oh man, the food is food
is great. Everything you can do with the good food there,
there's like out of shape Tony Romo or Kellen Moore
or Colin Kaepernick, these are your choices? Or Dak Prescott
with a mangled leg? How is it a fun discussion?
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What the hell is the matter with the Cowboys? Maybe
this tells you why they haven't won anything in fifteen
twenty years, right, Maybe that's maybe that's kind of the lessons.
Like Jerry Jones is trying to relate to millennials by
simply saying millennials. The more he says Millennials, the more
he thinks it will connect with Monnials and their quarterback
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coach is saying it would be fun to speculate about
the possibility of a starting quarterback getting hurt. Be sure
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I found
this story to be really interesting and maybe a little
bit off putting. It would be totally honest with you.
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So last week in Los Angeles, they had the NFL
Rookie Symposium, and basically it's where these guys get together.
There's like people who advised them on handling their money,
on working out, on what like. It's like, you know
when when your wife gets pregnant, people give you the
what to expect when you're expecting, you know, book, what
to expect when you're expecting the see what the NFL
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is Like, these guys aren't gonna read it if we
give him a book, like they're all visual learners. Let's
bring him in to l A, get him some food,
get him some hotel rooms, get some interesting people, and
teach him some stuff. And you know, maybe they break,
you break through to a couple of them. So there's
a guy name uh Ahmad Nassar. He's the president of
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the NFL's n f L p as for profit subsidi subsidiary,
NFL Players Inc. All right, So this guy is a
for profit guy in connection with the NFL p A
who they brought in to speak to the players about
what's what the NFL players. The kind of little code
with NFL is getting out from behind the shield, getting
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out from behind the face mask. And the problem that
NFL players have NBA players don't. So you can't see
him like an NFL player walks in and unless he's
a quarterback or a star are you have no idea
what he looks like. The whole thing is how do
I get out from behind the mask, behind the shield,
because if there's fifty three guys in roster, you might
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know three or four what they look like. So this guy,
a Mad Nassar says. Some people think he was talking
to Ben Boland to the Boston Globe, and apparently they
advised these NFL rookies, the two guys that you most
want to emulate, our Odell Beckham Jr. Superstar signed the
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biggest chew contract in the history of the Nation Football League.
And Rob Gronkowski. Now, Gronk does have a Nickelodeon show.
If you get seen it, it's like it's a spinoff
of Ridiculousness, right, it's called it's called my son actually
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really likes it. It is terrible. It is crash Leets
crash Leets is. It's basically, do you guys know what
ridiculous this is? You see that show? Yeah, I've seen that.
Ridiculous what's a man's name, Rob de Rob dear Dick.
We used to actually used to pick games against Rob
dear Dick like seven years ago on my radio show.
He owes me a trip to the the Fantasy Factory
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whatever is called. So Dear Dick has his show, and
this is like a kind of a sister show that
goes along with it, crash Lates, where they show guys
doing sports basically hurting themselves, and then Gronk makes comments
and then there's two other people and nobody's really all that.
But it's it's playing to like, like my son's eight.
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He likes it. It's the perfect demo for it. So
a modern sar said this to Ben Voller of the
Boston Globe. Some people think it's just an extension of
a frat boy and that it's sort of accidental. In
the Star said, and that's wrong. It's not accidental. It's
very purposeful. So the message there is really it really
is really good. Branding is where you don't even feel it.
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You think, oh, that's just Gronk being Gronk. Actually that's
his brand. But it's so good, so ingrained, so authentic,
you don't even know the brand or think it. You
buy that not for a second, right, Like, do I
think Rob Gronkowski is smarter than he lets on? Okay
a little bit, but like he had the Gronk Cruise.
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He's done so many different Gronk things, and I think
he plays it up. Sure, But this idea that, oh,
it's kind of it's all branding. You don't know where
the brand ends and real Gronk begins. That's because he's good.
He's really good. Do I think you could use Gronk
as he's being kind of true to himself and it
fits his image and it fits being a tight end
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as a guy. You could like, hey, look here's a
guy who's been able to kind of really make it work.
But I don't know if that's if I'm representing the
NFL p A. If I say this is a guy
I want you to emulate. Be sure to catch live
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one a Super Bowl and of course one a High
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Spoin Trophy is Reggie Bush's kind of have to spend
some time with this here on Fox Sports Radio. Reggie,
how are you? I'm doing good? How are you doing good? Man?
So give me your sense. I know you're healthy enough
to go play. You want to go play. You haven't
gotten a call yet. Where does your pro football career
stand as of right now? Well, I've I've had a
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two teams. I've talked to UM just having made a
decision at this point and just kind of want to
take my time. I'm in no rush, uh not feel great,
feel healthy, which is the most important part, um, you know,
going into your toils and uh, you know, I'm so
excited to play football. And we'll, you know, we'll see
how it gets closer the training camp. You know what
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what what if any teams? UM? You know, I end
up choosing. But as of right now, my my career
is still very much uh you know, still very much
want to play. Okay. So so I guess the question becomes,
and this is one I'm really interested in. Look, if
you're in but it's hard to stay in shape, even
if you have a trainer when you're not with the team.
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As I respect respect that, but there is just I
think I think a part of that is is you know,
it is it's totally hard to stay in shape if uh,
if it's not a part of you you know what
I mean, if you're just doing it just to play football,
then yes, it can be hard to stay in shape.
But for me, it's a it's a way of life.
It's a part of my you know, part of my
everyday routine. So I'm always in shape regardless if i'm
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you know, in trying to camp, manicamp or whatever. Okay,
So then the question becomes, though, is it better for
you when you get a better opportunity if you wait
for somebody to have an injury or you know, or
do you want to like, Hey, somebody really likes me
and they bring me in and it's a role that
I fit in better, Like what's a what's a better
possible solution to wait? Because somebody will inevitably go down,
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And like, look, you got two thousand yard seasons, really
a third if you go back to twelve, you should
have gotten a thousand that year. Like you have, you
have credit hours, You've been in a bunch of different systems,
your versatile layer. Everybody knows what you can do. Are
you better off waiting for somebody to go down or
to go to somebody's camp. Well, I think that's a
great question, you know, because it's a very uh, you
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can make an arguments for both ways. Last year, UM
Buffalo really wanted me to pursued me, you know, all offseason,
um ots mini camp, and I didn't want to make
a decision. I wanted to wait. And as we got
closer to training camp, Buffalo was still recruiting me very heavily.
So I ended up choosing Buffalo. And then three weeks
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to the season of office corner got fired, you know,
head coach got fired, and you know, as everybody knows,
everything else went so you know, a lot of the
stuff went out the door, you know, in the first
couple of weeks. So you know, that was a situation
that I thought was gonna work out well, and it
didn't work out well for um, so on. You know,
we'll see what happens this year or you know, this
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time around. This is only my second time, you know,
around going through this, so you know, we'll see. I'm
just gonna be patient, you know, I'm just gonna allow
it to happen organically, and I'm not gonna force it.
You know, if it's the right fit and I feel
like there's an opportunity there, then I'm going to go.
You know. If I feel like there's no opportunities out
there for me that I like and and it's not
worth the risk, then you know, they'n't hang it up. Okay,
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But right if that happen, if that happened, like you're
thirty two years old, if you in the super Bowl,
if that happened, are you at peace with it? I'm
at peace with it. You know, I've I've I've been
blessed to be able to play this game for a
long time, you know, and going into playing eleven years
and nfls is, you know, it's a long time for
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running back and and uh, you know, I think that
I still have a lot left to give. But if
the right opportunity is not out there for me and
it's a better opportunity for me in the business world,
then then I'll do that. Uh, and then I'll make
the best decision for me and my family. You know,
it's at this point, it's not it's not just about
me anymore. I have a family that I have to
I have to obviously be very conscious of it and
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just making sure that you know, there's right armortunity for everybody.
I'll talk to my wife about it, and will will
make the best decision is there. Do you ever get
the sense that you were born too soon? And by
that I mean like the yeah, and here's here's why. Okay,
you were incredibly versatile, right Like, you could play you
could play running back, you could you could play in
the slot. You know, you could frankly could have been
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a wide receiver. Uh. They could have moved used you
all over but early on, and granted you had your
best success probably being used all over in New Orleans
was like it was a really good fit. But there
are more teams that play that way and that use
players who are versatile now than ten years ago. When
you when you first came to league. That's why I say, like,
ever get the sense like, man, if I had just
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come in the league in two thousand and fifteen instead
of two thousand and six, I would have way more
options than I had. Now, Well, I mean, I don't know,
you gotta just you know, I think that's a great
argument that you make. But then on the flip side,
on the business side of it, before the c B A, um,
you know, the rookies were you know, when you come
to the league, they were getting a big contract. So
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and then when you look at the factor in the
injury rate, you know, uh, it makes it very tough,
you know. And now a lot of the pressure has
put more on the rookies in the first you know,
two or three or four year guys to really perform
at a high level without injury, which is nearly impossible.
And then you're playing, and now you're playing, you know,
trying to get that big contract as opposed to when
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I came out, you know, we got the the big
contract right away. Now, obviously it's not all about money,
but there's so many different ways you can look at it,
you know. And and I I came in at a
time where, um, you know, I thought going to New
Orleans was a great situation, was a perfect situation. At
the time, when I got drafted, I didn't think so
I was scared to death. But when I got there
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and then everything now looking you know, in hindsight, looking back,
and what we would accomplish. Uh, you know, I think
I came in at the perfect time. Reggie bus showing
us here on the Doug Outlet Show Fox Sports Radio.
Are you cool like I introduce you as high school
trophy winner? Because you I watched it, I was there.
You were the best player in college football. You won
the award. Are you okay with me still saying you're
at Higsman Trophy winner? Okay? So now you gotta answer
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the question why did you give the thing back? Like, dude,
come on, man, why do you give that thing back? Um?
You know what it was. That was a tough time
and I felt like it was righting to do. No way,
we lost you, We lost your phone. Right when you're
answering the question, I wanted to ask you that read
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you there? Oh man? Are you that just happened? Read
you there? Yeah? You're kind of cutting it out. You said,
I'll tell what kind of walk see if you're getting
a really good sales spot. Because I really wanted I
want to I want to hear your answer. So you
said at the time you thought it was the right
thing to do. Go on, I swear like Reggie doesn't
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mean he's not hanging up on me. That that I
think of, that I'm aware of. I'm like crest fallen
by this, crest fallen by it. Reggie Bushes have mentioned
his two thousand and seventeen Reggie Bush Charity Weekend is
a four day event. It's got youth football, which is awesome.
Youth football camp v I P fundraising dinner, celebrity pool party.
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No word on this sheet if there's a celebrity pool party. Uh,
cannonball contest because I'd be totally in for that, and uh,
celebrity golf tournament and a FIFA gaming tournament. It's a
good thing there's no Double Dribble or Madden because I
would dominate those. I'm not as good a FIFA. Reggie
Bush is good at FIFA, and he was kind enough
to call us back FIFA. Your game of choice? Uh, yeah, yeah,
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my game with choice? YEA, who do you play as?
I play with Bayer Munich or I'll play it with
many you. Yes see. One of the things that I
think people don't know about athletes is like there is
a lot of downtime, Like when you train, you train
Harvard's a lot of downtime. And so there's a lot
of athletes that are really really good at ping pong. Uh,
some guys are some guys are pool guys, and some
guys are video game guy. It's your video game guy, right. Yeah,
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it's funny you say the ping pong thing, because that's
like one of the most play I mean, everything I've
been on there's like ping pong it gets serious, like
to the point of where, like you know, it's it's
just really intense, and I've never I've never experienced until
I got to the league. Uh, you know, in college
it wasn't like that. But once I got into the league,
my ping pong, it was just like it was almost
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like people were spending this is my time playing sports
or football as we're playing ping pong. You your your competition, junkie.
Anybody anybody you know have their own paddle, like bring
their own Like, oh you wanna play? Hold up a second,
I gonna go to the locker and they go and
they whip at their own paddle. That's just about every
every team I've been on. So and then I got
to the point to where I started really competing, and
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and I got my own paddles too. I have to do.
They have to say they have like your autograph on it.
They have like the Reggie Bush special made. No, no, no,
it's it's just one of the you know, I don't
even I forget the name of the brand, but um, yeah,
it's it's one of the top of the line. Battle
Kentner makes the best ping punk tables. I know. I'm
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a big ping punk guy. Um. Okay, So let me
get back to the question that we're discussing. All right.
So I asked you about returning the Heisman Trophy and
you said, at the time you thought it was a
good idea. Yeah, at the time. At the time, you know,
I felt like it was the right thing to do. Um,
and I felt like, uh, you know, at the end
of the day, Uh, you know, the the trophy doesn't
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define who I am. It's about the journey. It's about
the brothers, the people who I play with the college level,
the guys who are still some of my best friends
to this day. Uh, some of the guys you know
who who helped me get to that, to that level,
being able to accomplish that. Um And and I played
on the on the era with with some great athletes,
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some great college players, and then what we were able
to do over the course of that time period. To me, Uh,
that's what I remember that the journey. It's about this journey.
It's not so much about, you know, the end results.
So for me, you know, giving back the Hysmo trophy, Um,
it was I just feel like it was the right
thing to do. And and um, you know that was
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that okay? But do you do you feel any you
harvard any regrets, Like if you could, if you could
do it all over, would you do it all up?
You know what, I don't. I don't have regrets. You know,
I think everything happens for a reason. I truly truly
believe that. Uh, you know, everything happens for a reason.
And we go through life, will go through experiences, um
and they and those experiences shape us, right and they
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shape us to either you know, to to to be better,
hopefully to be better or not worse. But you know
there's a learning experience and everything. And I think everything
that happened in the college level for me, um, you know,
was a learning experience, and I appreciate it because it
helped shape me and it helped me to go through
things later in life. Um you know that really you know,
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allowed me to just you know, be tougher mentally, physically, emotionally,
you know, those differ things. I think people forget how
good you guys were. Like you were. It wasn't like
everybody remembers Vince Young's touchdown run. But you're fourth, fourth
and one, and Lane didn't have you on the field
and you gave it to Lyndale White. But like, if
you convert that fourth and one, you went back to
back to back national champions you go down. Is without
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any question the greatest team of all time, Isn't it crazy?
It's funny We're getting ready to watch Lebron and like, like,
you know, if if Kyrie misses a shot last year, well,
Lebron's a bum he makes a shot. Now Lebron's mentioned
with Jordan's like you've been a part of this. What's
it like to be on the other side? Like literally,
fourth and one, you convert that and USC during your
era is the greatest football team ever. And now it
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was a great it was a great run, but now
it's Alabama this and Alabama that. What's it like to
be a part of It's amazing, you know, And that's
why I said, Man, it's it's really about this journey.
It's not it's not about the end results. I mean, yeah,
it's great to win, you know, the trophies, but everything
that happened in between there, you know, whether it's from
the the daily practices, the the guys hanging out outside
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of football, the memories that we made on the football field,
and then in the classrooms and then in the weight rooms,
and and and again. Like I said, you know, those
are those are some of the most fun times I've
ever had in my life, you know, being on that
team at USC and and being around the fans and
being able to play, um, you know, in Los Angeles,
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and know all the different things that came along with it. Uh,
for me, those are some of the best experiences of
my life and something that I never forget it. And
to be a part of something like that, um, it's
it's priceless because uh, you can't you can't you can't
buy it. Uh. You know it took hard earned dedication, blood,
sweat and tears, everything that we were able to accomplish,
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you know, at that level. And and and then we
were able to create this brotherhood of guys who's to
this day, I was still I was out and die
for any one of those guys. Uh, if if they
were in trouble or if they if they needed me.
You know, you had you were so unbelievably elusive when
you're at SC and obviously during your NFL career. Uh
and you have you mentioned, we mentioned you have this
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charity weekend, we have a youth football camp, Like how
much of the how much of the vision, how much
of the cutting, how much of that can be taught?
And how much of his God given Um, you know
there's obviously there's a certain level that that's God given.
But you know, I truly believe I played with a
lot of great players at the high school level, at
the little league level, at the college level, and and um,
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you know, the difference I think and for what I've
seen is just the amount of work, ethic, a dedication
that you put into it. You know, you're only gonna
get what you put in. You reap what you so right,
so you know what you put into it is what
you're gonna get out of it. And you know you're
not just gonna you know, football is a hard sport.
You know, you you're not gonna just accidentally, you know,
play football and and you know score eight touchdown the
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ten touchdowns or whatever it is. And and in your
first couple of games, you know, it takes a lot
of hard work, dedication. And it's crazy because the generations
are changing quickly, I mean every five or ten years,
like the generation that the athletes is just improving their bigger, showner, faster,
smarter um. And I remember a couple of years ago
going to a one of my coach's sons literal league
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games or as a practice. Sorry I won't spoke to
the team, and they were I think they were about
like six or seven years old. The team was and
they were already watching film, they were studying film, they
had like workout sessions. And I remember when I was
in the Literal League, we was just out there having fun,
you know. And now you know these kids are bred
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you know, differently at a at a very young age.
So it's kind of crazy, just to see the evolution
of the athlete. All right, Sam Donald, there's the hype
is ramping up for Sam Donald, right, and they're talking
about number one pick in the trap and like he
only didn't start on the back. I look, I am too.
Plus I'm an Orange Orange County guy. Like I love
everything about the Sam Donald story. Okay, but you've lived
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through the most usc era of all time. If and
I'm sure at some point you know they'll ask you
to to say something to these guys, But if you
could give those guys some advice on how to handle it,
how did how did how to just enjoy it? And
how to be like you've lived it? How do you
do it? What would you say to Sam or do
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his teammates. I would say to Um, dedicate yourself day
in and day out to your craft, and dedicate yourself
day and day out to your teammates and on and
off the field, protect each other, because at the end
of the day, those are your brothers, Um, and those
are those relationships that you build now in college or
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some relationships are gonna last for a lifetime. So I
would say to them to keep your circle small, protect
each other, and dedicate yourself to each other and to
yourselves every day. But how do how do you not
give into the hype? Like, how do you not like, dude,
it's every I mean, it's everywhere in l A and
it's gonna be everywhere nationally and soudent especially to that
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Penn State game, Like how do you how do you
not feed it? You know, buy into that. Well, it
takes a collective effort, right, Likes it takes um, you know,
eleven guys to score a touchdown, but it only takes
one guy to mess it up. So with that mentality,
it's gonna take your whole it's gonna take a team
effort to collectively understand. Yes, it's okay to be excited
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about the season. Yes, it's okay. You're gonna you're gonna
read the newspaper articles, you're gonna hear the stuff on
ESPN or or Fox or all these different news stations.
But um, you know, don't don't allow yourself to get
consumed in it. Right. We always have the saying every
team I've been on and and it's just the thing,
it's part of the sports cultures. Don't eat the cheese, right, Like,
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don't buy into the hypers. Okay to reading and get excited,
but at the end of the day, you're still gonna
have to go out there and earn your respect every day.
Um and and it's gonna take that mindset to be
able to accomplish what you want to, you know, to
win a championship. Hey man, I look forward to hopefully
seeing you on an NFL field sometime this year. In
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the meantime, you go to Reggie Bush Weekend dot com.
This is very this is very different than Gronx Boat Trip. Now,
this is not Gronx Boat Trip. Reggie's got the dad,
Reggie's playing golf like it's a little bit more tame,
uh and and like, look, if there's a cannonball contest, me,
my eight year old son will come down and dominate
for sure the cannonball contest. When invite you out to
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get gronk out there, to come out there and do
some crazy stuff, thanks for joining us, Reggie, I really
appreciate you going back. Thanks buddy. All right, Reggie Busch
joining us on the Dug out Lip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio.