June 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug talks about the Lakers selling 2/3 of their team for $10B and what that means. Doug weighs in on Shedeur Sanders getting ticketed for driving over 100 mph. Doug welcomes three-time World Series Champion Curt Schilling onto the show to talk about modern-day pitching, running a baseball team and other major headlines. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Could be, could be? Could be? Could be the last
day we have we have basketball, last day we have
NBA basketball. If our head college basketball come to an end,
it could be all coming to an end. In the
very very near term. We'll get to tonight's game. We'll
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give you a preview of it. Mark Medina is going
to join us on the show. I think Kurt Shilling's
going to join us. We'll talk about pictures and we'll
talk about show. Hey, now that he's back as a picture,
what he looks like despite the fact he's coming off
his second Tommy John surgery. Should our Sanders in the
news with a speeding ticket over one hundred miles an hour.
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We got to have some speeding ticket talk because I
got pulled over for speeding but did not get a
ticket yesterday. But I want to start with this. The
Bus family is selling off sixty six percent of the Lakers,
and the Lakers are valued at ten billion dollars. Okay,
you do the math. Sixty six percent, that's six point
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six billion dollars or so in the pockets of Tommy
Boy and Tommy Girl and all of the Bus family
that has run the La Lakers. And I have to
be totally honest with you, I think we're looking at
this all wrong. I think we're looking at this all
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wrong because what has a tendency to happen? And Jason
just shared it with me, and I didn't actually even
think of it that way. Jason's a lifelong Los Angelino, right,
I mean technically s Orange County, but whatever, we all
get lumped to kind of the same bucket. And his
childhood mirrored mine, though I wasn't born in California, moved
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to Orange County when I was six, So our childhood,
the Lakers seemingly were always good, and they had the
best broadcaster chick Hern. Chick Hern is to Lanson Lakers
Basketball Network. They had the most famous coach, They had
one of the two or three, two of the three
biggest names in all the NBA seemilarly at all times. Right,
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it was Magic and Kareem and then Worthy and then
Magic and ultimately gave way to Shaq and Kobe and
then to Lebron. Like it's the Lakers. And so we
have a tendency when these things happened to look at
the Lakers and think of the dynamics. And I even
heard Colins say they went from analog to digital right away.
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It's true. The Lakers have been a mom and pop
and my guess is, you bring all that private equity
money in and it's going to be a well oiled machine,
but run very very differently, very much profit first. But
that's I don't think that's the story, because if you
just take the Lakers, you say, Okay, well maybe they
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didn't want to sell, but ten billion dollars. Everybody has
this price, and that's fair. We do realize that in
the last calendar year or so, the Celtics have been sold,
the Mavericks have been sold, and if you go back
to last summer, Michael Jordans sold sold a basically controlling
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steak in the Charlotte Hornets. There are thirty NBA teams.
Thirty NBA teams, the two most historic franchises have both
been sold in the last calendar year. So if we
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look at this just like you look at real estate,
and you say, yeah, of course, you know, finance guys
end up buying these teams. That tracks, that makes sense.
Those guys have just seemingly untold sums of money if
you look at it from the perspective of ownership. Now,
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the Lakers can go to a spending war with the
Clippers because the Clippers, well, we're owned by our owned
by Steve Balmer, who's worth untold billions of dollars, and
it's all just a decimal point to him. He's the
most valuable owner in sports, and he's done an incredible
job of building a new arena and supporting the team.
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But I think the bigger story is that whether it's
the cost of doing business or the franchises topping out
in terms of their valuation, the fact that you've had
four of them sold during the short period of time,
including the two most historic franchises sold, albeit for crazy money.
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The point is that these are assets usually don't sell.
These are forever homes and yet they've been sold. Heck
throwing the Portland Trailblazers who are being sold. And now
you got five of thirty, that's one six the teams
of the NBA. And if really, really smart people who
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have made a lot of money or who have inherited
a lot of money, have these teams in there and
being advised to take the big check and say I'm
done here. And remember if it's about money in the
short term, like you don't have a lot of money,
If you're franchise is valued at eight, nine, ten billion
dollars and you're the owner, you can in fact take
out a loan. My guess is that the uh that
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the next wave of contracts because of the new collective
bard In agreement, feels like it's going to be such
a heavy burden to not only win in the NBA,
but look what happened to the Golden State Warriors after
they won another title. You just get luxury tacks to
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death and you're constantly writing checks. You lose money on
a daily and yearly basis, and we say you're you
lose money. It's not like you're losing a losing one
hundred dollars or even one hundred thousand dollars. You're losing millions,
and at some point it only makes sense to sell.
And when five of thirty are saying now is the time,
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it tells you all you need to know about running
a business in the NBA or owning a team in
the NBA. That the old guard, and it's not even
that old guard. Mark Cuban cashed out. I'm good, I'm done.
I don't need the hassle, I don't need the constant
political fight, I don't need the expenses. And it is,
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in fact a business, and much like a business. I
remember having a conversation with a buddy mine who runs
a restaurant in Oklahoma, and it was right after COVID.
It's like, we just can't find people to work. We
give bonuses for people for just coming to work. Now,
imagine running an NBA team where you have all the
issues and you don't hire concessions people you don't hire,
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but you do hire your own staff. But everyone feels
that as it's harder and harder to get people to
go to work. And then the top paid people in
all of sports, in all of entertainment, by and large,
are athletes and NBA players want to work less, want
to get paid more. That's the narrative for all people.
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And they will be paid more, substantially more. And they
have so much power in the market that it makes
it really hard to balance your budget and still find
a way to win basketball games. Yeah, my takeaway is
just different. I'm looking at this and we're hyper focusing
on the Lakers and on the end of the bus
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Family era, and we're going to sit back and say,
you know, I mean, this is actually no different than
crypto replacing staples. A cryptocurrency became a real thing, not
when it gained all its value, but when it put
their name on the most known arena in the Western
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United States. Instead of looking at like at this like
it's a Laker story and eventually they'll clean house and
you're bringing a new owner and you know he's going
to cut ties with and my guess is he has
ties with Magic Johnson. And it wouldn't surprise me if
Magic Johnson gets his revenge and people who he didn't
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feel were loyal to him will be out in the
very near future, just to guess. But to me, the
story is that the two most historic franchise in the NBA.
Both are being sold obviously for rookie sums, for record sums,
and the only possible explanation is cost of doing business
is high and getting higher. The valuations are at their
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peak and feels like it's buttoned up against the ceiling
and really smart people are saying, you know, I think
I'm good here. I'll take the money and let somebody
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The Dodgers went in the ninth four to three.
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Speaker 1 (10:33):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So Shedroth
Sanders got a speeding ticket going one on one. And
here's the thing, as somebody who you know, I've gotten
pulled over plenty matter of fact, got pulled over yesterday
two days ago, two days ago, and it was sixty
eight and to fifty five, which I don't know. The
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police officer was in the right hand lane. I came
up into it went from sixty five to five five
and she was going like crazy slow, but got off
with a warning. And I guess my thing is this,
in and of itself, a speeding ticket not a great look.
We've all had them, try to avoid multiple speeding tickets. Right,
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Every speeding ticket is different. It's like Peyton Mann likes
to say that every interception is a story unto itself. Right,
you ever heard that Peyton has said that. But what
I find to be fascinating fascinating is that Shador Sanders
going over one hundred. No one is going to argue
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the validity of that ticket from this standpoint right, like
you're going and this depends like if you're in southern California.
I got pulled over once on the fifty five Freeway.
The fifty five Freeway sort of by Sex Orange County. Right.
It starts and it used to be actually a road,
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but starts on Newport Beach Boulevard and then goes into
being the fifty five Freeway and goes all the way
up to the ninety one, which is like that takes
you into the Inland Empire and so on. The north
side or west side of the fifty five Freeway is
basically it goes like Central Orange County to North Orange County.
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On the south side, it's the southern part of Central
Orange County in the South County right bisection. I gotta
be honest, I got pulled over. This is probably like
ten years ago, and the cop will be over and
he's like, do you know if esh you're going? I
was like, I don't. I've never seen anybody get pulled
over on this road. And though eighty two sounds really fast,
it's like what allowed you outside of hitting your quota,
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to single me out, to point me out for going
eighty two, because everybody's going eighty two or eighty five, right,
But if I say that with a very reasonable sense
of honestly, eighty five and below is whatever ninety is.
Your hummin is not arguing once you go over one
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hundred you have no defenders. There just isn't. There's no
defenders over hum now saying that, and of course Zach
Edy got up. Was it a one oh one or
one hundred and five in a fifty five? Right? Again,
that's on some sort of highway. He's going way too fast. Again,
same thing. But Zach Edy, there's no history of what
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people would consider arrogance or entitlement. And so I understand
if you're sitting there going like, hey, why would you
say Shador Sanders is entitled and acting entitled by going
one hundred miles an hour when you wouldn't say that
about Zach Edy. Well, that's because I have two years
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years of high major college football evidence where he's showing
off his bling, he's trash talking and talking down to
people who come from lesser means or lesser statue or
what he's seen his lesser programs or lesser families. The
way he handled himself, by all accounts, getting ready for
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the NFL draft. Like if I said, like shdrog Sanders
went one hundred and one driving, and you know he's
driving something that is very comfortable, going one oh one
Bentley Range whatever. I don't even need to look at
what card is. And all of us have some sort
of pr reputation, right, Like I'll give you an example.
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Dan works a lot, he works on Sundays, he works
in the show. If Dan played hooky, Dan's like I'm
going and he said I'm sick, and then somebody's playing golf, like, hey,
i'sa Dan Meyer playing eighteen. He'd be like, that makes sense, right,
because Dan has a reputation of being a golf guy,
loves golf, right, Shador Sanders getting pulled over for going
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one hundred and one, he has a reputation surprises. Nobody
feeds into the idea of entitlement fair unfair. You have
to know that's what human nature does. Doesn't mean I
cut him, but definitely points to that no matter what
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he wants to say in front of the camera, and
many things in front of the camera have not been contrite.
That feels like more of an act. This feels more
like whose store is? It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. And who better to catch up
with during the dog days as we got a bunch
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of baseball to discuss. Then three time World Series champion,
one of the clutchest of clutch pitchers in our lifetime,
Kurt Schilling and Kurt by the Way, has a new
podcast on YouTube, appropriately called The Complete Game with Kurt Chilling.
It drops Tuesday, Friday and Sunday nights. Hey, I want
to ask you, Kurt real quick as we get started
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pitching durability, right, I think the biggest, biggest frustration in
any baseball fan's mind is like, God, these guys, they're
constantly getting hurt, and no matter how much you pay,
or how young the arms are or old the arms are,
it feels like these guys are more fragile. Again. It
feels like you know the facts, we know the feelings. Okay,
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it feels like they're more fragile than ever. What's the
reality to pitching durability?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
It's broken. Pitching is broken sport wide, not just at
the base at the major league level, but it's broken
all the way down to the little league there's been
a transformation in the last twenty years. The money's gotten insane,
while pitchers are hurt more often and throwing less than
they ever have. And it's a direct result of this
massive love of velocity that has completely changed pitching in
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the game. And it's broken, it really is. I've done
a lot of work over the last couple of months
on my show going over the draft, this coming draft
and the way, and I'm using air quotes. The experts
have ranked the top pitching prospects. I've studied video of
all them. And the analogy I use is twenty years ago,
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you probably could have scouted twenty pitchers and seen nineteen
different deliveries. Today you scout twenty pitchers, you see eighteen
guys in the same exact way. And it's these these
velocity schools that you know, come here, Hey, this large
exorbitant money, and we'll show you how to throw harder.
Not an ounce of pitching is done there, and you're
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seeing it at the Big League global It's it's like
I said, it's sport wide. It's broken. It needs a
complete reset, and you know, I don't see anybody doing that.
And I'll give you a quick one if if somebody's
actually interested in how I realized this. There's a young
man named Chase Dollander who pitches for the Rockies. If
you go back on YouTube and look at Chase Dollder
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pitching at Georgia and Junior College and then at Tennessee
and then at Colorado in the big leagues, he is
after four years, he is throwing the ball the same
exact way he did in junior college, which is an
absolute crime. And uh, that's sport wide. And these guys
are all ranked by how hard they throw a period.
And and that's just it just it's broken. It's horribly broken.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Steut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of the Big Show. Kurt Schilling joining us on
the show. Speaking of speaking of pitching, right, give me
your assessment. He's now had two Tommy Johns. We've just
seen him on the mound of showani as a pitcher,
what's your Evoluh devastating.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I mean, he's a he's a he's a top rotation.
Here's the thing that and the reason I think bothers
the saber nutritions. They can't quantify certain things and when
they can't quantify things, they discard them. Some guys bodies
are just not built to withstand the rigors of throwing
a baseball, which is a very unnatural thing. I put
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no farther than Jacob de Gram, who is to me,
had he stayed healthy, would have been maybe the best
pitcher in the history of the game. He was Greg
Maddix at ninety eight miles an hour with wipeout off speed. Stuff.
I don't know, And it gets into the science, but
the bottom line is, and there's a little medical lesson here.
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So you know, our body's made up of collagen, which
is connective tissue. Some people's collagen is just stronger than others.
And that's why guys who break their ankle as opposed
to another guy on the same accident twist his ankle.
Same thing with pitching and no different. And you're watching
guys who are max for every and the body can't
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do that, The body cannot do that. And those are
the guys who and that's what I said. You saw
a couple more guys go on the d L today.
It's an everyday thing. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, it's basically like yeah, it's like, well, they're throwing
ninety four mile an hour cutters. What like, there's a
reason that you can't throw it. Can you do it? Yeah?
But can your arms survive it? No?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. First off, the people
identifying pitches on TV don't know what the hell they're
talking about, because no picture in the game has six pitches.
Nobody doesn't. Doesn't work that way, And most of these
guys are out there throwing three or four pitches that
move different ways, and they're ascribing different names to all them.
That's not how it works. Number one and number two.
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If you know the analogy I use. If you take
a very strong, thick piece of chain, right, let's just
say it has. You have ten links in a chain,
and I swing it in a circle and I have momentum, right,
the chain is fine, there's no you know, I'm not
causing stress at any of the connections. If I take
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that same chain link and I snap it like a whip,
then you're stressing every connection to the chain. Right. These
guys are snapping the whip every single pitch, and you
can't do it. It's just not possible.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Would you ever consider running a team?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I would love to. I'm actually I'm very interrested in
getting back in the game. Now that's kind of a
recent thing, but I would love to walk in and
sit down with a team and redefine pitching for an organization,
from scouting to drafting to developing Johnny Podrey to who
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I think was the best pitching coach I ever ever
was around. You used to have a saying, and I believe,
I believe will hardly you give me an arm, I'll
make you an All star because it's not hard to teach.
It just a different mindset. And I don't see it. Uh,
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and it's it's gone. I mean, you have guys in
the big leagues who are coaching who've never pitched, who've
never They the guys that I don't know. Is it
drive line or these these velocity clinics are getting hired
by teams to talk to a pitcher. What is it?
What are they gonna tell me about pitching in the
seventh inning of a game in October in the playoffs
with the time run on third base? What are those
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people going to give me? Brow harder? Because that's the answer,
and you know it's it's the two things directly correlate.
The more effort you put into a pitch, the less
command you have of the ball in the strike zone. Well,
there's a way to teach these guys. Here's the here's
an example. I used to talk about going to the well,
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and it's going to the well for me was max effort.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I could go to the well three times in a game.
After the third time, I was done. But if I
didn't have to go to the wells on the fifth
or sixth, or seven, then I was okay. And going
to the well is like run around third one out.
I need a strikeout. Every pitch is going to be
maxed effort. Right now. When I'm maxed effort, I'm going
from ninety three, ninety four to ninety seven, ninety eight.
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These guys are maxed up. These guys are going to
the well every pitch number one and number two. They're
doing it in such a way that they go from
ninety six to ninety seven. That's not it, you know.
Greg Mattick had a great line a while back. He said,
when I see two cars on the freeway, one's driving
ninety and the others driving ninety one, can you tell
the difference? No, But when one's doing ninety and ones
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doing ninety five. You can these guys are quote unquote
going to the well for and losing command by the way,
and not getting any of the lots every single pitch.
It's just not sustainable.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah yeah, But what would what would limit you from
getting back into the game would be that you've been
out of the game. So how would you go about it?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
I don't. I don't. Being out of the game. I
think is given me a bird's eye view of things,
and I think that there's a tunnel vision problems sometimes
where you know, you see baseball is an athletics is
a game of copycast? Right, Moneyball was this, Oh my god,
you guys are crazy, and now it's everywhere. I think
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that there has to be an approach to pitching from
the outside looking in, like my perspective, to reset the clock,
because it does need to be reset.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Kurt Shillings, our guest here on the Doug Ottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I did want your thoughts on
the WNBA. We've talked about it a ton. Oh my god,
and it's really interesting here. You have a young woman
in Caitlin Clark who's legitimately legitimizing she's but there have
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been other great players come to the WNBA. What there
hasn't been is the type of great players that brings
mainstream media, that brings moms and their daughters to the games,
families to the games, that has a legitimate following for
a myriad of reasons. You know, four years at the
same school, success in college, being from the Midwest, girl
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next door, et cetera. I just want your your thoughts.
I'm not going to change anyway when you see Caitlin
Clark and what's going on in the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Well, so, first of all, the uncomfortable conversation has to
be had, right, You've seen a ton of great NBA
player WNBA players, not many have been white, and that
that is absolutely part of this. I mean, Britney Griner
basically said as much, right, which is uncomfortable and stupid.
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It's so stupid. Nobody. I can't think of any baseball
player I was ever a fan of where the color
of their skin had anything to do with my rooting
for them. I can't think of any athlete from you know,
and people I'll date myself, but people will talk about
the fact that you know, I talked about very and
Mark maguire very differently, and people say, well, one guy's
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black or one guy's white. I said, no, one guy
was a good guy and one guy wasn't. Period. I
don't care about the other stuff, and sports fans don't either.
But the fact of the matter is, I've never seen
a sport try to commit suicide so adamantly on a
daily basis. And you know, if you listen to the
Fever coach the other night, she said the thing that
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everybody's thinking, the rest suck. They have to get better
because everybody else is getting better and the eyes are
turning to the game. I was thinking about this last night.
Can you imagine what would happen to the NBA she
walked away today? Can you fathom what would happen to
that sport? And those women are literally punching the gift
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horse in the mouth literally and poking her in the eye.
She is, Yeah, there have been superstars before, but there's
never been I don't. I mean, see Steph Curry with
twenty feet more range and it's fun to watch. And
I know, God bless Sophie Cunningham because she's now going
to be one of the most famous w NBA players
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that ever lived, and rightly so. But I don't understand
it right. Think about this, Doug. In our lives, we
watched sports change the rules for players, Michael Jordans, right
Lebron James. The w n b A is doing the
exact opposite of all of those things. They're not trying
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to protect the quarterback rule in the NFL. The w
n b A is like saying, Okay, beat the hell
out of her, but we're going to call all the
other fouls and it makes.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Sense she'll The only pushback I would have is there
is actually is a lot of Michael Jordan to it.
Remember the Pistons famously, Jordan rules knocked him on his
ass until ultimately they beat him, and then they end
up going on to three straight titles and then six.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Ultimately that happened.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
That happened under the purview of the rest who called
of fouls.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I I got no.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Right because you and I are you and I are
watching the sport going Okay, she should be ejected, she
should be tech and none of that's happening in many cases.
It's just it's almost like, you know, there's a ton
of people who say sports are rigged, and you can
point to a million things and say no, they're not.
And then there are certain things that happen, such as
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the team down thirteen KICKMP fifty Yarcuield goal with two
seconds left. Sure like there are things that happen where
you look at it and go, wait a minute, maybe
it is rigged, and this is one of those things.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Kurt, we got to do this again, really really soon.
Check out Kurt. Check out Kurt podcast. It's called The
Complete Game, three days a week on YouTube. Download it,
watch it. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. You know, Kurt
never shot with his opinions. Kurt Shilling. Kurt, thanks so
much for joining us on Fox Sports Tradio. Take care,
big boy, all right, I appreciate it, Kurt. You can
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Speaker 2 (29:37):
This is Game tiede on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, we got a good one today, a fun one.
I think on the heels of I don't know, I
kind of feel like, you know, a bit of a
bit of a boob if you will, from what happened
on Monday. First of all, the game today.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Is I feel a draft?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Hey, why do you feel like it?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Well, on Monday, we did love and hate, and I
was so staunch on my hate that I actually texted
you guys to say I don't want to forget about
this on Monday. I did it on Sunday and my
hate was Adam Schefter tweeting about the US Open, and
I said, hey, man, stay in your lane, we want
NFL stuff, don't try to jump into the golf world.
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But what do you know? Less than forty eight hours later,
I'm getting tweets of people saying, look, Adam Schefter is
going to be doing encurse reporting for PGA Tour Live.
And I guess that was the reason why. That's why
we saw those tweets from Adam Schefter, maybe foreshadowing what
he was going to do this week. Big golf fan,
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but still I was, what's that is he bored? Well,
I just think that he was trying to soft launch
kind of.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So I get it, But why do you think he's
doing it?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I thought it may have been a budget thing where
they just they were like, hey, we're only paying certain people.
Adam Schefter doesn't have any NFL stuff to do. You
want to do golf, it's on the you know, the
the pay broadcast that isn't the normal broadcast that you
get on Golf Channel. That's why I thought. But I
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don't know, I could be wrong. You know more of
the inner workings over there than I do.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So well, yeah, I mean I think he's one of
those guys. Clearly he's a made man, right, I mean,
you know, he tweets out that Sex State has fifty
million dollars in nil. I call him on it, and
you know, they start, they start coming at me. You know,
he's so he's a maid guy.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't think it's budget. I just think it's like
he's always wanted to do it, so he went in
and said, hey, I want to do it, and they're like, okay, yeah,
is that River Highlands right, So it's really close.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
That could be another portion of it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I really think it's it's it's that easy. It's that
guys will they come up with stuff and like I
want to do it, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And here's my thing on it is I think that
golf is the hardest sport to do that. Like I
I just don't think that Adam Schefter is qualified to
do that job. In fact, I think that there are
very few people. I think you have had You would
have had to have had to play golf at an
extremely high level to be able to do the job
of on course reporter or have been like Bones Mackay
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on Phil Mickelson's bag for twenty five years, you know,
to know what happens, to know everything, because those guys
are just so good that the common person. As much
as you love golf, I could not be an en
course reporter. I love golf. It's just it's it's a
different job. It's not sidelines. It's not this is what
the coach said at halftime. There's it's a different sort
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of deal.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, Hey, hey, coach, what you think the first tap?
Hey coach? Did you think a second? Yeas coach? Yeah,
you have to you got to have a ton of
yeah if it does it And look, I understand it
on some level. I did sideline for an NFL game
on Fox, and some of it is really easy. Some
of it is really hard. There's a lot of work
to it, and there's kind of a there's a rhythm
(33:17):
to it if you will. And you know, as is
the case the industry, like, hey, you already have an
awesome job, why do you need to take up other jobs?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, this is too short sighted with a bunker between
you and you've got a three foot landing area, Like yeah, anyway, Iowa, Sam.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, I think go ahead, Sam. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I had just quick question for Dan.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So like being a caddy, a golfer professional or amateur,
and then being a en course reporter those are all
have sort of a you got to be in this.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Club, you have to know what they're going through.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So like a caddy kind of coaches the golfer the
golf maybe a caddy what becomes a golfer, and then
there's some sort of.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Some I think you have to just be at that level,
like you have to be able to play the game
or know the game at that high level. Anyway, So
the game today is favorite announcer in history who called
different sports kind of off of the heels. I have
the first pick, Doug second, Sam's third, Jason is fourth,
and fifth. I'm gonna going off the wall one. But
there's a reason I love this. We lost him recently.
Mike Patrick called Sunday Night Football on ESPN. But I
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also loved him, Doug and you'll know it Big Monday.
Sure he and Dick vi Tal would team up. Mike
Patrick calling college hoops as well as his NFL duties.
I'm taking him number one. I loved Mike Patrick's voice.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Wow, number one.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, good pick.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's a it's a good pick. I mean it's a
good pick. Mike Patrick called my dad's games at Jacksonville University.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Wow, right back in the day.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Crazy crazy?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do they have to not be calling games?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I'm sorry to be history. Could be, yeah, it doesn't
have to be current, could be.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh well, current. I mean, I'm gonna go with Iron Eagle,
all right, He's good as anybody's ever done it.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Sam.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Uh. With a third pick overall, I am going to
draft Brent Musburger. You are looking live.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's a good pick. Who's off the board here, Mike Patrick,
Iron Eagle and Brent Musburger.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Ordly, I think you know where I'm going to this Ordinally,
welcome to the Rosebay. And uh Vin Scully did a
golf and he's the greatest baseball announcer of all time.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
All right, Sam, all right?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Uh with the sixth overall pick, I am going to
take Uh Sean McDonough.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Fan of Sean McDonough. Does that's good pick?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Fan?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah? I like him. I like his voice. I'm sorry
hockey and football, all right, Doug.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Uh, I'm gonna go with gott. I have so many
friends in these things.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I know it's personal to you.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah. Uh, you know what. We're not friends. We're not
enemies or anything.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Joe Buck good ball, Joe Buck great at baseball and
really really good. That's a good pick at NFL football.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I'll make it quick. Vermlnquist college football. Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
That's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Game.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
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Could be, could be? Could be? Could be the last
day we have we have basketball, last day we have
NBA basketball. If our head college basketball come to an end,
it could be all coming to an end. In the
very very near term. We'll get to tonight's game. We'll
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give you a preview of it. Mark Medina is going
to join us on the show. I think Kurt Shilling's
going to join us. We'll talk about pictures and we'll
talk about show. Hey, now that he's back as a picture,
what he looks like despite the fact he's coming off
his second Tommy John surgery. Should our Sanders in the
news with a speeding ticket over one hundred miles an hour.
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We got to have some speeding ticket talk because I
got pulled over for speeding but did not get a
ticket yesterday. But I want to start with this. The
Bus family is selling off sixty six percent of the Lakers,
and the Lakers are valued at ten billion dollars. Okay,
you do the math. Sixty six percent, that's six point
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six billion dollars or so in the pockets of Tommy
Boy and Tommy Girl and all of the Bus family
that has run the La Lakers. And I have to
be totally honest with you, I think we're looking at
this all wrong. I think we're looking at this all
(01:56):
wrong because what has a tendency to happen? And Jason
just shared it with me, and I didn't actually even
think of it that way. Jason's a lifelong Los Angelino, right,
I mean technically s Orange County, but whatever, we all
get lumped to kind of the same bucket. And his
childhood mirrored mine, though I wasn't born in California, moved
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to Orange County when I was six, So our childhood,
the Lakers seemingly were always good, and they had the
best broadcaster chick Hern. Chick Hern is to Lanson Lakers
Basketball Network. They had the most famous coach, They had
one of the two or three, two of the three
biggest names in all the NBA seemilarly at all times. Right,
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it was Magic and Kareem and then Worthy and then
Magic and ultimately gave way to Shaq and Kobe and
then to Lebron. Like it's the Lakers. And so we
have a tendency when these things happened to look at
the Lakers and think of the dynamics. And I even
heard Colins say they went from analog to digital right away.
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It's true. The Lakers have been a mom and pop
and my guess is, you bring all that private equity
money in and it's going to be a well oiled machine,
but run very very differently, very much profit first. But
that's I don't think that's the story, because if you
just take the Lakers, you say, Okay, well maybe they
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didn't want to sell, but ten billion dollars. Everybody has
this price, and that's fair. We do realize that in
the last calendar year or so, the Celtics have been sold,
the Mavericks have been sold, and if you go back
to last summer, Michael Jordans sold sold a basically controlling
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steak in the Charlotte Hornets. There are thirty NBA teams.
Thirty NBA teams, the two most historic franchises have both
been sold in the last calendar year. So if we
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look at this just like you look at real estate,
and you say, yeah, of course, you know, finance guys
end up buying these teams. That tracks, that makes sense.
Those guys have just seemingly untold sums of money if
you look at it from the perspective of ownership. Now,
(04:30):
the Lakers can go to a spending war with the
Clippers because the Clippers, well, we're owned by our owned
by Steve Balmer, who's worth untold billions of dollars, and
it's all just a decimal point to him. He's the
most valuable owner in sports, and he's done an incredible
job of building a new arena and supporting the team.
(04:52):
But I think the bigger story is that whether it's
the cost of doing business or the franchises topping out
in terms of their valuation, the fact that you've had
four of them sold during the short period of time,
including the two most historic franchises sold, albeit for crazy money.
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The point is that these are assets usually don't sell.
These are forever homes and yet they've been sold. Heck
throwing the Portland Trailblazers who are being sold. And now
you got five of thirty, that's one six the teams
of the NBA. And if really, really smart people who
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have made a lot of money or who have inherited
a lot of money, have these teams in there and
being advised to take the big check and say I'm
done here. And remember if it's about money in the
short term, like you don't have a lot of money,
If you're franchise is valued at eight, nine, ten billion
dollars and you're the owner, you can in fact take
out a loan. My guess is that the uh that
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the next wave of contracts because of the new collective
bard In agreement, feels like it's going to be such
a heavy burden to not only win in the NBA,
but look what happened to the Golden State Warriors after
they won another title. You just get luxury tacks to
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death and you're constantly writing checks. You lose money on
a daily and yearly basis, and we say you're you
lose money. It's not like you're losing a losing one
hundred dollars or even one hundred thousand dollars. You're losing millions,
and at some point it only makes sense to sell.
And when five of thirty are saying now is the time,
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it tells you all you need to know about running
a business in the NBA or owning a team in
the NBA. That the old guard, and it's not even
that old guard. Mark Cuban cashed out. I'm good, I'm done.
I don't need the hassle, I don't need the constant
political fight, I don't need the expenses. And it is,
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in fact a business, and much like a business. I
remember having a conversation with a buddy mine who runs
a restaurant in Oklahoma, and it was right after COVID.
It's like, we just can't find people to work. We
give bonuses for people for just coming to work. Now,
imagine running an NBA team where you have all the
issues and you don't hire concessions people you don't hire,
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but you do hire your own staff. But everyone feels
that as it's harder and harder to get people to
go to work. And then the top paid people in
all of sports, in all of entertainment, by and large,
are athletes and NBA players want to work less, want
to get paid more. That's the narrative for all people.
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And they will be paid more, substantially more. And they
have so much power in the market that it makes
it really hard to balance your budget and still find
a way to win basketball games. Yeah, my takeaway is
just different. I'm looking at this and we're hyper focusing
on the Lakers and on the end of the bus
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Family era, and we're going to sit back and say,
you know, I mean, this is actually no different than
crypto replacing staples. A cryptocurrency became a real thing, not
when it gained all its value, but when it put
their name on the most known arena in the Western
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United States. Instead of looking at like at this like
it's a Laker story and eventually they'll clean house and
you're bringing a new owner and you know he's going
to cut ties with and my guess is he has
ties with Magic Johnson. And it wouldn't surprise me if
Magic Johnson gets his revenge and people who he didn't
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feel were loyal to him will be out in the
very near future, just to guess. But to me, the
story is that the two most historic franchise in the NBA.
Both are being sold obviously for rookie sums, for record sums,
and the only possible explanation is cost of doing business
is high and getting higher. The valuations are at their
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peak and feels like it's buttoned up against the ceiling
and really smart people are saying, you know, I think
I'm good here. I'll take the money and let somebody
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Speaker 2 (10:01):
Is a fly ball right center field, Tatis on the
wrong at the warning track.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Bet the walk it, it's done, it's gone, and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Turn is over.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They celebrate in front of the play.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh walk up home run crew Will Smith.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
The Dodgers went in the ninth four to three.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 1 (10:33):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So Shedroth
Sanders got a speeding ticket going one on one. And
here's the thing, as somebody who you know, I've gotten
pulled over plenty matter of fact, got pulled over yesterday
two days ago, two days ago, and it was sixty
eight and to fifty five, which I don't know. The
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police officer was in the right hand lane. I came
up into it went from sixty five to five five
and she was going like crazy slow, but got off
with a warning. And I guess my thing is this,
in and of itself, a speeding ticket not a great look.
We've all had them, try to avoid multiple speeding tickets. Right,
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Every speeding ticket is different. It's like Peyton Mann likes
to say that every interception is a story unto itself. Right,
you ever heard that Peyton has said that. But what
I find to be fascinating fascinating is that Shador Sanders
going over one hundred. No one is going to argue
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the validity of that ticket from this standpoint right, like
you're going and this depends like if you're in southern California.
I got pulled over once on the fifty five Freeway.
The fifty five Freeway sort of by Sex Orange County. Right.
It starts and it used to be actually a road,
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but starts on Newport Beach Boulevard and then goes into
being the fifty five Freeway and goes all the way
up to the ninety one, which is like that takes
you into the Inland Empire and so on. The north
side or west side of the fifty five Freeway is
basically it goes like Central Orange County to North Orange County.
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On the south side, it's the southern part of Central
Orange County in the South County right bisection. I gotta
be honest, I got pulled over. This is probably like
ten years ago, and the cop will be over and
he's like, do you know if esh you're going? I
was like, I don't. I've never seen anybody get pulled
over on this road. And though eighty two sounds really fast,
it's like what allowed you outside of hitting your quota,
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to single me out, to point me out for going
eighty two, because everybody's going eighty two or eighty five, right,
But if I say that with a very reasonable sense
of honestly, eighty five and below is whatever ninety is.
Your hummin is not arguing once you go over one
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hundred you have no defenders. There just isn't. There's no
defenders over hum now saying that, and of course Zach
Edy got up. Was it a one oh one or
one hundred and five in a fifty five? Right? Again,
that's on some sort of highway. He's going way too fast. Again,
same thing. But Zach Edy, there's no history of what
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people would consider arrogance or entitlement. And so I understand
if you're sitting there going like, hey, why would you
say Shador Sanders is entitled and acting entitled by going
one hundred miles an hour when you wouldn't say that
about Zach Edy. Well, that's because I have two years
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years of high major college football evidence where he's showing
off his bling, he's trash talking and talking down to
people who come from lesser means or lesser statue or
what he's seen his lesser programs or lesser families. The
way he handled himself, by all accounts, getting ready for
(14:21):
the NFL draft. Like if I said, like shdrog Sanders
went one hundred and one driving, and you know he's
driving something that is very comfortable, going one oh one
Bentley Range whatever. I don't even need to look at
what card is. And all of us have some sort
of pr reputation, right, Like I'll give you an example.
(14:45):
Dan works a lot, he works on Sundays, he works
in the show. If Dan played hooky, Dan's like I'm
going and he said I'm sick, and then somebody's playing golf, like, hey,
i'sa Dan Meyer playing eighteen. He'd be like, that makes sense, right,
because Dan has a reputation of being a golf guy,
loves golf, right, Shador Sanders getting pulled over for going
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one hundred and one, he has a reputation surprises. Nobody
feeds into the idea of entitlement fair unfair. You have
to know that's what human nature does. Doesn't mean I
cut him, but definitely points to that no matter what
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he wants to say in front of the camera, and
many things in front of the camera have not been contrite.
That feels like more of an act. This feels more
like whose store is? It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. And who better to catch up
with during the dog days as we got a bunch
(15:53):
of baseball to discuss. Then three time World Series champion,
one of the clutchest of clutch pitchers in our lifetime,
Kurt Schilling and Kurt by the Way, has a new
podcast on YouTube, appropriately called The Complete Game with Kurt Chilling.
It drops Tuesday, Friday and Sunday nights. Hey, I want
to ask you, Kurt real quick as we get started
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pitching durability, right, I think the biggest, biggest frustration in
any baseball fan's mind is like, God, these guys, they're
constantly getting hurt, and no matter how much you pay,
or how young the arms are or old the arms are,
it feels like these guys are more fragile. Again. It
feels like you know the facts, we know the feelings. Okay,
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it feels like they're more fragile than ever. What's the
reality to pitching durability?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
It's broken. Pitching is broken sport wide, not just at
the base at the major league level, but it's broken
all the way down to the little league there's been
a transformation in the last twenty years. The money's gotten insane,
while pitchers are hurt more often and throwing less than
they ever have. And it's a direct result of this
massive love of velocity that has completely changed pitching in
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the game. And it's broken, it really is. I've done
a lot of work over the last couple of months
on my show going over the draft, this coming draft
and the way, and I'm using air quotes. The experts
have ranked the top pitching prospects. I've studied video of
all them. And the analogy I use is twenty years ago,
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you probably could have scouted twenty pitchers and seen nineteen
different deliveries. Today you scout twenty pitchers, you see eighteen
guys in the same exact way. And it's these these
velocity schools that you know, come here, Hey, this large
exorbitant money, and we'll show you how to throw harder.
Not an ounce of pitching is done there, and you're
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seeing it at the Big League global It's it's like
I said, it's sport wide. It's broken. It needs a
complete reset, and you know, I don't see anybody doing that.
And I'll give you a quick one if if somebody's
actually interested in how I realized this. There's a young
man named Chase Dollander who pitches for the Rockies. If
you go back on YouTube and look at Chase Dollder
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pitching at Georgia and Junior College and then at Tennessee
and then at Colorado in the big leagues, he is
after four years, he is throwing the ball the same
exact way he did in junior college, which is an
absolute crime. And uh, that's sport wide. And these guys
are all ranked by how hard they throw a period.
And and that's just it just it's broken. It's horribly broken.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Steut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of the Big Show. Kurt Schilling joining us on
the show. Speaking of speaking of pitching, right, give me
your assessment. He's now had two Tommy Johns. We've just
seen him on the mound of showani as a pitcher,
what's your Evoluh devastating.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I mean, he's a he's a he's a top rotation.
Here's the thing that and the reason I think bothers
the saber nutritions. They can't quantify certain things and when
they can't quantify things, they discard them. Some guys bodies
are just not built to withstand the rigors of throwing
a baseball, which is a very unnatural thing. I put
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no farther than Jacob de Gram, who is to me,
had he stayed healthy, would have been maybe the best
pitcher in the history of the game. He was Greg
Maddix at ninety eight miles an hour with wipeout off speed. Stuff.
I don't know, And it gets into the science, but
the bottom line is, and there's a little medical lesson here.
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So you know, our body's made up of collagen, which
is connective tissue. Some people's collagen is just stronger than others.
And that's why guys who break their ankle as opposed
to another guy on the same accident twist his ankle.
Same thing with pitching and no different. And you're watching
guys who are max for every and the body can't
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do that, The body cannot do that. And those are
the guys who and that's what I said. You saw
a couple more guys go on the d L today.
It's an everyday thing. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, it's basically like yeah, it's like, well, they're throwing
ninety four mile an hour cutters. What like, there's a
reason that you can't throw it. Can you do it? Yeah?
But can your arms survive it? No?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. First off, the people
identifying pitches on TV don't know what the hell they're
talking about, because no picture in the game has six pitches.
Nobody doesn't. Doesn't work that way, And most of these
guys are out there throwing three or four pitches that
move different ways, and they're ascribing different names to all them.
That's not how it works. Number one and number two.
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If you know the analogy I use. If you take
a very strong, thick piece of chain, right, let's just
say it has. You have ten links in a chain,
and I swing it in a circle and I have momentum, right,
the chain is fine, there's no you know, I'm not
causing stress at any of the connections. If I take
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that same chain link and I snap it like a whip,
then you're stressing every connection to the chain. Right. These
guys are snapping the whip every single pitch, and you
can't do it. It's just not possible.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Would you ever consider running a team?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I would love to. I'm actually I'm very interrested in
getting back in the game. Now that's kind of a
recent thing, but I would love to walk in and
sit down with a team and redefine pitching for an organization,
from scouting to drafting to developing Johnny Podrey to who
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I think was the best pitching coach I ever ever
was around. You used to have a saying, and I believe,
I believe will hardly you give me an arm, I'll
make you an All star because it's not hard to teach.
It just a different mindset. And I don't see it. Uh,
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and it's it's gone. I mean, you have guys in
the big leagues who are coaching who've never pitched, who've
never They the guys that I don't know. Is it
drive line or these these velocity clinics are getting hired
by teams to talk to a pitcher. What is it?
What are they gonna tell me about pitching in the
seventh inning of a game in October in the playoffs
with the time run on third base? What are those
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people going to give me? Brow harder? Because that's the answer,
and you know it's it's the two things directly correlate.
The more effort you put into a pitch, the less
command you have of the ball in the strike zone. Well,
there's a way to teach these guys. Here's the here's
an example. I used to talk about going to the well,
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and it's going to the well for me was max effort.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I could go to the well three times in a game.
After the third time, I was done. But if I
didn't have to go to the wells on the fifth
or sixth, or seven, then I was okay. And going
to the well is like run around third one out.
I need a strikeout. Every pitch is going to be
maxed effort. Right now. When I'm maxed effort, I'm going
from ninety three, ninety four to ninety seven, ninety eight.
(23:12):
These guys are maxed up. These guys are going to
the well every pitch number one and number two. They're
doing it in such a way that they go from
ninety six to ninety seven. That's not it, you know.
Greg Mattick had a great line a while back. He said,
when I see two cars on the freeway, one's driving
ninety and the others driving ninety one, can you tell
the difference? No, But when one's doing ninety and ones
(23:33):
doing ninety five. You can these guys are quote unquote
going to the well for and losing command by the way,
and not getting any of the lots every single pitch.
It's just not sustainable.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah yeah, But what would what would limit you from
getting back into the game would be that you've been
out of the game. So how would you go about it?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
I don't. I don't. Being out of the game. I
think is given me a bird's eye view of things,
and I think that there's a tunnel vision problems sometimes
where you know, you see baseball is an athletics is
a game of copycast? Right, Moneyball was this, Oh my god,
you guys are crazy, and now it's everywhere. I think
(24:17):
that there has to be an approach to pitching from
the outside looking in, like my perspective, to reset the clock,
because it does need to be reset.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Kurt Shillings, our guest here on the Doug Ottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I did want your thoughts on
the WNBA. We've talked about it a ton. Oh my god,
and it's really interesting here. You have a young woman
in Caitlin Clark who's legitimately legitimizing she's but there have
(24:51):
been other great players come to the WNBA. What there
hasn't been is the type of great players that brings
mainstream media, that brings moms and their daughters to the games,
families to the games, that has a legitimate following for
a myriad of reasons. You know, four years at the
same school, success in college, being from the Midwest, girl
(25:12):
next door, et cetera. I just want your your thoughts.
I'm not going to change anyway when you see Caitlin
Clark and what's going on in the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Well, so, first of all, the uncomfortable conversation has to
be had, right, You've seen a ton of great NBA
player WNBA players, not many have been white, and that
that is absolutely part of this. I mean, Britney Griner
basically said as much, right, which is uncomfortable and stupid.
(25:41):
It's so stupid. Nobody. I can't think of any baseball
player I was ever a fan of where the color
of their skin had anything to do with my rooting
for them. I can't think of any athlete from you know,
and people I'll date myself, but people will talk about
the fact that you know, I talked about very and
Mark maguire very differently, and people say, well, one guy's
(26:03):
black or one guy's white. I said, no, one guy
was a good guy and one guy wasn't. Period. I
don't care about the other stuff, and sports fans don't either.
But the fact of the matter is, I've never seen
a sport try to commit suicide so adamantly on a
daily basis. And you know, if you listen to the
Fever coach the other night, she said the thing that
(26:26):
everybody's thinking, the rest suck. They have to get better
because everybody else is getting better and the eyes are
turning to the game. I was thinking about this last night.
Can you imagine what would happen to the NBA she
walked away today? Can you fathom what would happen to
that sport? And those women are literally punching the gift
(26:47):
horse in the mouth literally and poking her in the eye.
She is, Yeah, there have been superstars before, but there's
never been I don't. I mean, see Steph Curry with
twenty feet more range and it's fun to watch. And
I know, God bless Sophie Cunningham because she's now going
to be one of the most famous w NBA players
(27:08):
that ever lived, and rightly so. But I don't understand
it right. Think about this, Doug. In our lives, we
watched sports change the rules for players, Michael Jordans, right
Lebron James. The w n b A is doing the
exact opposite of all of those things. They're not trying
(27:31):
to protect the quarterback rule in the NFL. The w
n b A is like saying, Okay, beat the hell
out of her, but we're going to call all the
other fouls and it makes.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Sense she'll The only pushback I would have is there
is actually is a lot of Michael Jordan to it.
Remember the Pistons famously, Jordan rules knocked him on his
ass until ultimately they beat him, and then they end
up going on to three straight titles and then six.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Ultimately that happened.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
That happened under the purview of the rest who called
of fouls.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I I got no.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Right because you and I are you and I are
watching the sport going Okay, she should be ejected, she
should be tech and none of that's happening in many cases.
It's just it's almost like, you know, there's a ton
of people who say sports are rigged, and you can
point to a million things and say no, they're not.
And then there are certain things that happen, such as
(28:23):
the team down thirteen KICKMP fifty Yarcuield goal with two
seconds left. Sure like there are things that happen where
you look at it and go, wait a minute, maybe
it is rigged, and this is one of those things.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Kurt, we got to do this again, really really soon.
Check out Kurt. Check out Kurt podcast. It's called The
Complete Game, three days a week on YouTube. Download it,
watch it. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. You know, Kurt
never shot with his opinions. Kurt Shilling. Kurt, thanks so
much for joining us on Fox Sports Tradio. Take care,
big boy, all right, I appreciate it, Kurt. You can
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(28:54):
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Speaker 2 (29:37):
This is Game tiede on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, we got a good one today, a fun one.
I think on the heels of I don't know, I
kind of feel like, you know, a bit of a
bit of a boob if you will, from what happened
on Monday. First of all, the game today.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Is I feel a draft?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Hey, why do you feel like it?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Well, on Monday, we did love and hate, and I
was so staunch on my hate that I actually texted
you guys to say I don't want to forget about
this on Monday. I did it on Sunday and my
hate was Adam Schefter tweeting about the US Open, and
I said, hey, man, stay in your lane, we want
NFL stuff, don't try to jump into the golf world.
(30:29):
But what do you know? Less than forty eight hours later,
I'm getting tweets of people saying, look, Adam Schefter is
going to be doing encurse reporting for PGA Tour Live.
And I guess that was the reason why. That's why
we saw those tweets from Adam Schefter, maybe foreshadowing what
he was going to do this week. Big golf fan,
(30:50):
but still I was, what's that is he bored? Well,
I just think that he was trying to soft launch
kind of.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So I get it, But why do you think he's
doing it?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I thought it may have been a budget thing where
they just they were like, hey, we're only paying certain people.
Adam Schefter doesn't have any NFL stuff to do. You
want to do golf, it's on the you know, the
the pay broadcast that isn't the normal broadcast that you
get on Golf Channel. That's why I thought. But I
(31:24):
don't know, I could be wrong. You know more of
the inner workings over there than I do.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So well, yeah, I mean I think he's one of
those guys. Clearly he's a made man, right, I mean,
you know, he tweets out that Sex State has fifty
million dollars in nil. I call him on it, and
you know, they start, they start coming at me. You know,
he's so he's a maid guy.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't think it's budget. I just think it's like
he's always wanted to do it, so he went in
and said, hey, I want to do it, and they're like, okay, yeah,
is that River Highlands right, So it's really close.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
That could be another portion of it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I really think it's it's it's that easy. It's that
guys will they come up with stuff and like I
want to do it, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And here's my thing on it is I think that
golf is the hardest sport to do that. Like I
I just don't think that Adam Schefter is qualified to
do that job. In fact, I think that there are
very few people. I think you have had You would
have had to have had to play golf at an
extremely high level to be able to do the job
of on course reporter or have been like Bones Mackay
(32:33):
on Phil Mickelson's bag for twenty five years, you know,
to know what happens, to know everything, because those guys
are just so good that the common person. As much
as you love golf, I could not be an en
course reporter. I love golf. It's just it's it's a
different job. It's not sidelines. It's not this is what
the coach said at halftime. There's it's a different sort
(32:54):
of deal.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, Hey, hey, coach, what you think the first tap?
Hey coach? Did you think a second? Yeas coach? Yeah,
you have to you got to have a ton of
yeah if it does it And look, I understand it
on some level. I did sideline for an NFL game
on Fox, and some of it is really easy. Some
of it is really hard. There's a lot of work
to it, and there's kind of a there's a rhythm
(33:17):
to it if you will. And you know, as is
the case the industry, like, hey, you already have an
awesome job, why do you need to take up other jobs?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, this is too short sighted with a bunker between
you and you've got a three foot landing area, Like yeah, anyway, Iowa, Sam.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, I think go ahead, Sam. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I had just quick question for Dan.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So like being a caddy, a golfer professional or amateur,
and then being a en course reporter those are all
have sort of a you got to be in this.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Club, you have to know what they're going through.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So like a caddy kind of coaches the golfer the
golf maybe a caddy what becomes a golfer, and then
there's some sort of.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Some I think you have to just be at that level,
like you have to be able to play the game
or know the game at that high level. Anyway, So
the game today is favorite announcer in history who called
different sports kind of off of the heels. I have
the first pick, Doug second, Sam's third, Jason is fourth,
and fifth. I'm gonna going off the wall one. But
there's a reason I love this. We lost him recently.
Mike Patrick called Sunday Night Football on ESPN. But I
(34:19):
also loved him, Doug and you'll know it Big Monday.
Sure he and Dick vi Tal would team up. Mike
Patrick calling college hoops as well as his NFL duties.
I'm taking him number one. I loved Mike Patrick's voice.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Wow, number one.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, good pick.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's a it's a good pick. I mean it's a
good pick. Mike Patrick called my dad's games at Jacksonville University.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Wow, right back in the day.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Crazy crazy?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do they have to not be calling games?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I'm sorry to be history. Could be, yeah, it doesn't
have to be current, could be.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh well, current. I mean, I'm gonna go with Iron Eagle,
all right, He's good as anybody's ever done it.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Sam.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Uh. With a third pick overall, I am going to
draft Brent Musburger. You are looking live.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's a good pick. Who's off the board here, Mike Patrick,
Iron Eagle and Brent Musburger.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Ordly, I think you know where I'm going to this Ordinally,
welcome to the Rosebay. And uh Vin Scully did a
golf and he's the greatest baseball announcer of all time.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
All right, Sam, all right?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Uh with the sixth overall pick, I am going to
take Uh Sean McDonough.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Fan of Sean McDonough. Does that's good pick?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Fan?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah? I like him. I like his voice. I'm sorry
hockey and football, all right, Doug.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Uh, I'm gonna go with gott. I have so many
friends in these things.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I know it's personal to you.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah. Uh, you know what. We're not friends. We're not
enemies or anything.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Joe Buck good ball, Joe Buck great at baseball and
really really good. That's a good pick at NFL football.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I'll make it quick. Vermlnquist college football. Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
That's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Game.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
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