June 20, 2017 • 38 mins
Doug tells you why LeBron James has turned into "The Godfather" and what that has to do with David Griffin no longer being the Cavaliers General Manager. He explains why the NBA off season has been far more entertaining than the playoffs. Pac 12 Analyst and former UCLA head coach Steve Lavin joins the show to talk about the top 2 projected picks Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball.
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former U c l A. St. John's Uh, he goes
somewhere else to say, John, No, I just now he
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John's head coach, just legendary schools East End and West Coast.
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Steve Lavin will join us right here on the Doug
Gotlip Show. In fifteen minutes we'll ask kim Y mark
El folts couldn't win? As we get ready for the
NBA Draft which is Thursday night. And Thursday night, we're
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Radio on the I Heart app What a night. What
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a night. No, I'm not talking about a Dodger you
couldn't pick out of a line up hitting his twenty
second home run of the year. I'm not talking about
anything baseball, nothing football. The basketball offseason has lasted all
of what a week, and it's already more interesting than
the basketball playoffs, and by the way, frankly more interesting
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than the baseball off season. Like baseball Hot Stove League
used to be incredibly important and intriguing, and it just
wasn't really this year, right, wasn't. Oh, we have some
good stuff leaked out? Paul George wanted to be dealt.
Now the Lakers and Pacers are already talking trade, right,
so Paul George probably headed to the Lakers, forcing his
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way to Lakers. And the only question is what could
the Pacers possibly want outside of that number two overall pick,
which the Lakers aren't gonna part with in order to
land them Paul George, an asset which is depreciating by
the day. But the big news is what happened in Cleveland.
Cleveland has been to three straight NBA Finals. David Griffin
is in fact their general manager, or was up until
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last night, when they parted company, they were in a
contract dispute, to which my thought yesterday at this very
same time was being Paul George deal done to get
the Jimmy Butler deal done. Then you can't fire him. Oops.
Lebron James tweets out how much he, even if no
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one else did, he really respected David Griffin, which leads
everybody to think Lebron's the good guy ownership the bad guy.
Lebron said, I didn't want him gone. But is that
what Lebron said? Or did Lebrons say? Even if no
one else appreciated you, I did. Did David Griffin bringing
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Lebron James? No? Did David Griffin bring in Tristan Thompson. No,
did get David Griffin bringing Kyrie Irving? No, Kevin Love
deal was kind of already pre arranged. And so while
David Griffin is in fact a good guy and it
is in fact a difficult job, it wasn't as if
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David Griffin was killing it. Now some of it is
bad luck. He made the cow Corver move, which all
of us are like, well, that's a hell of a move,
all right. I mean, arguably the best pure shooter in
the league, you can make the argument, I'm not talking
about player, who's the shooter. It's like Clay Thompson's a
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better basketball player and a really good shooter. But if
just if you line guys that be, like, who's the
best guy at making a three? Kyle Corver's in every discussion.
You need a shooter, Yeed that kind of puzzle piece
you bring him in. But what a great move Kyle
Corvern and Pia drop in the NBA Finals, and this
is what happens. Guy makes shots, You're a hero. Guy
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missed shots? Who went out? And that guy right. Some
of it is whether he felt compelled to, whether he
was pushed to Lebron's guys or his agents. Guys all
got taken care of. Tristan Thompson, huge deal, j R.
Smith huge deal, Kevin Love Max Steel. And even if
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those numbers now look more reasonable in comparison to the
current day, contracts, at the time in which the in
the context of the time in which they are signed,
they were not great deals. Lebron called him out mid
season talking about the roster, and while he may have
been mentioning to the ownership group, hey, you need to
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spend more money, they spend more money than anybody in
the NBA. Did they send spend smartly? So I don't
want to canonize David Griffin as if he's some heroic
figure who lost his job tragically last night. He did
a nice job, but he kind of arrived at a
team that had Lebron, Kyrie Tristan and the Kevin Love deal,
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like that was all done. What all did he do?
And while Lebron James wants to act like he's the
good guy in this whole thing, right, if if Lebron
James wanted David Griffin to be the general manager, David
Griffin would be the general manager. That that's the way
it works. He didn't have to have said he doesn't
have to have fired him. He doesn't have to have
said picked up the phone and said fire that guy,
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right effing now like that. No, they didn't have to happen.
But if arguably the best player in the world and
probably the second best basketball player, third best basket player
I've seen in my lifetime, says David Rivers, my gentleman,
he does the remember Jimmy Chitwood from Hoosiers, You guys,
remember Jimmy Chitwood from whoshers. You know they're gonna fire
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the coach, and then the Gene Hackman's the coach, and
everybody votes and the coaches fired, and Jimmy walks in
hold my basketball, stands up there, think like lingas thom
MNNA start playing some ball. Everybody goes crazy. He says,
was one more thing coach goes, I go coach days.
I stay right like you didn't even have to do that.
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If he did that, I mean, David Griffin would still
be the general manager and lo and behold like Chauncey
Billips is probably going to be the new guy who's
never been a general manager, never worked in the front office.
But of course, Mr big shot fifteen years in the
NBA covering the NBA this year, smart, savvy, well respected,
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be fine. And so while people are freaking out Lebron
is leaving, Lebron is gone. He's mad, No, he's not.
This is what happens with Lebron when when he loses,
it's always somebody else's fault. Right, Kevin Love wasn't good enough, right,
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Remember when they lost in Miami the first time it
was his fault. But after that, Dwyane Wade's knee Chris
Bosh too soft, just not good enough for written, just
that good enough supporting cast. That's what happened the first
year when they lost and and and in fact it
was accurate. Kyrie got hurt, Kevin Love got hurt. They
lost to the Warriors in six, same thing this year.
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Kevin Loves not good enough and Peace Dye could enough.
Kyle Corford can make shots. Gentle manager has got to go.
So the Lebron soap opera continues, and he keeps his
hands clean of everything. And it's interesting because Lebron's favorite
movie is in fact The Godfather, and much like the
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head of a mob organization that you can't there's too
many different layers to get to in order to pin
it on Vito Corleone. But what a fascinating, fascinating night
in the NBA, Like they just reached the finals three
eight years You're like, all right, what are they gonna next?
Fire the general manager? Wait? Wait, And there's talk of
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trading Carrie Irving. You're like, wait, wait, is the Lake
on fire now figuratively as opposed to literally like it
was five years ago. There's a historic note. There was
a time in which Lake Erie, which Cleveland resides upon
was so polluted that it acts the lake actually caught
on fire. That actually happened in our lifetime. That was
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literally now figuratively, and the idea of Chauncey Billips, which
is people sit there and go like, well what that
That couldn't work, That couldn't happen. Okay, Tyrone Loeu had
barely been an assistant coach and in mid season they
changed and that worked. So why wohin this work? Griffin
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had been a general manager before. But when you haven't
been a player, you don't have the feel of a player,
you don't have the relationships of a player. And the
only question for Billips would be would he be able
to are willing to have those hard conversations, not just
cutting dudes, but telling Tristan Thompson, you may be worth this,
but we gotta we mean, maybe we're X. We want
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to gotta pay you why so that we can go
out and get other guys who are worth X. But
it is fascinating to watch teams, especially the Calves, try
and keep up with the Joneses, trying to stay one
step ahead of it. But all this talk that Lebron
is headed to l a. He may well head to
Los Angeles. He might got a house here. There's the Lakers,
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there's the Clippers. There's the idea of raising your kids here.
He might. It could happen, but but knowing that it's
going to happen a year before it happens, when they
haven't hired replacement GM just because of one tweet to
which Lebron wasn't brought in. They didn't ask him if
he wanted David Griffin fired. If he didn't want David
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Griffin fired, David Griffin would be the general manager of
the Cleveland cavil It period. End of story. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome to
Steve Lavin, former u c l A head coach, of course,
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former head coach of St. John's as well Fox Sports
College basketball analyst. I've I've done. I think we did
five NBA drafts together, uh lave um. If you were
taking number one overall, regardless of team, let's just say
you have to pick a player in this draft, who
is it? I'd go with Josh Jackson HM. Why I
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like the versatility, But again it's based on the team
and their roster and personnel that needs a quarterback or
an orchestrator pass first point guard, then you go with
Lonzo Ball. If the teams it's solid at the point
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and is looking for a perimeter punch, scoring and playmaking
from the two guard spot with someone that can slide
over and play some out top, then Marquel Bolt is
very attractive. But if it doesn't come down to the
needs of a point guard or scoring on the perimeter,
and you're just looking for a player best available, Josh
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Jackson intrigues me. Now I've heard he's struggled in some workouts.
I've heard there's some questions about the consistency on the shot,
So I think you have to factor that in again,
And that's really what the draft is about, is trying
to elevate or improve your team. Rarely does a player
like Shaquille, Tim Duncan, Bill Russell l Jahwan. Those players
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come along so oft in terms of front line players,
but it's about finding the right piece or fit the
need that a particular team has and also complementary piece
to those other players, and so so much of it's
going to come down to what are these particular teams
that are drafting at the top need and then looking
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at this particular draft the pool of players that are available,
because that also dictates the degree who you take. Steve Lavin,
Fox Sports College basketball analysts joining us Doug Gottliev show
Fox Sports Radio coach also worked for the Pac twelve network.
Why couldn't Marquel Fulls Elevators team? Well, I think number
one was no one anticipated that the John Day Murray
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and Marquis Chris would go out after their first year.
So if those two players returned, the Washington's probably looking
at thirty wins, competing for the Pack twelve championship and
making a run in the n C Double A Tournament.
But because the loss of Murray and Chris, what was
left behind was the situation that the young fellow wasn't
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prepared for And uh, no doubt. You know that's a factor,
and I'm sure people are looking at that and scrutinizing
the fact that he wasn't able to get Washington into
the nt Double A tournament. That a franchise changing player.
If you look through the history of the game, right
Bird magic, Isaiah Thomas adjacent Kidd at Cal, those were
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players that came in and transformed or at least elevated
those programs and made runs in the NT double A
tournament magic case they wanted and the Bird's case they're
runner up. Isaiah obviously won a national title. Jason Kidd
took Cal to Sweet six team, knocked off two time
defending national champion Duke at that point, So that I
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think is a factor that I'm sure people look at.
But also in fairness to him, when he played with
USA Basketball, they won a gold medal, and he clearly
has had success uh in the years leading up to
this freshman year at Washington, But his numbers, his talent
UH clearly there and with the right surrounding cast and
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a good fit, someone that can elevate an NBA team,
UM obviously not just coaching U c l A, covering
u c l A, understanding Los Angeles, but understanding the
point card position. When if I was to say Lonzo
Ball is the closest thing to Jason kidds since Jason
Kidd is that is that the wrong comparison? How do
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you feel about the comparison Where I do think they're
similar is they're brilliant in terms of passing the ball,
the precision um and the purpose that they play the
game with in terms of a functional or purposeful use
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of the dribble, of the bounce, the economy of the bounce,
because so often point guards will take that one extra dribble,
massage the ball and then not hit an open man,
or by the time they hit the open man, the
defenders closed out. But like great quarterback acts point guards,
you don't have to give it to you, uh you
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know where you want it, where you're going to be successful,
and to put it there on time in terms of
efficient offense. And so I think kids and ball are
similar in terms of the surgical or precision passing on
the floor and their intuitive uh you know, feel for
the game is exceptional. Jason Kidd was physically more stout,
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and he could impose his will on the game defensively
with his physicality and then offensively. I think he was
tailor made in terms of the next level for the
wear and tear of you know, a two plus games
if you're in the in the playoffs and count the exhibition.
He just he was a physical specimen. He was a
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man playing with boys in college. I was almost a
varsity verse bosshopper JV situation when he was a cow
going up against the rest of the packed well and
obviously went on to a Hall of Fame career, but
with launch of ball. My concern, you know, when you
compare him to the kid, is that he doesn't have
the physical stout strength. Jason Kidd almost was a football
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player in high tops, like a great running back, but
out on the floor with handles of skills. UM obviously
covering the PacTel Steve Laven Pactell Network, Fox Sports also
cover the n c A Tournament four for CBS Sports,
joining the Stug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. UM Lowry
Marketing is somebody who, apparently Phil Jackson loves, everyone wants
to call him. You know, the kristofs perzingis light. He
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struggled kind of towards the stretch run there in the
PAC twelve and you were covering the league. What's your
assessment of marketing and what we can expect from him
during his rookie contract. I'm a big fan of marketing.
My only concern we can talk about his strength because
I think they're pretty obvious. My one concern would be
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his lateral foot speed and defending you know, on the
perimeter against quicker players, more athletic players, and managing you know, uh,
pick and roll, picking pop situations in the various ways
in the NBA that they defend, uh, you know, ball screens. Uh.
And so that ladder of even his foot speed north
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south from rim to rim got exposed at times against
teams like Oregon and really you know Arizona's ladder let's
be along the front line. All their foot line players
really struggled in that aspect and it did catch up
to them even if they lost against Savior. But what
I do like is for a player his size, the
ability to shoot the ball, to pass the ball, to
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see over the top, good instincts. You can slide him
inside where you could take smaller players, uh, you know,
into the basket area. He can step away with comfort
and a tremendous steel for the game. Offensively, Uh, there's
an ease or fluidity that he plays the game with,
and I think he'll continue to get better. So I
would expect him, you know, to be a solid ten
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twelve year pro who's capable of the double doubles and
putting up good numbers and a really good complimentary piece.
If he's right, if he's with the right uh you know,
team and the rights surrounding Google players. Um, but there
is some concern with his foot speed both rim to
rim and latterly from sideline sideline terms of picking up
the feed be able to defend on the perimeter. Let
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me ask you about a couple of super young players
that know you've seen Zach Collins Gonzaga Courses stock just
skyrocketed up because of their play in the n c
A tournament. And then Justin Patton from Craighton working for
Fox Sports covering the Big East. If you had to
bet your sizeable salary which allows you to travel the
world and send out incredible instagrams from all of the
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all over the globe, Steve Lavin, who who's more likely
to be the better pro? Justin Patton or or Zach Collins.
I go with pattent at this point, although I can't
go wrong with either, but the fact hadn't picked up
the game later in his life and it's just now,
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you know, beginning to get a feel on the sense
he's still growing into his body, and I think he'll
continue to make leaps and bounds as a player. But
you couldn't go wrong with either. But I'd say, Patt
and if you look down the line on the upside,
which was so often how the NBA drafts these days
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because there's so many young prospects coming out. Uh, and
as a result, you have to play that projection game.
That's what these gms get paid for, is to look
into the crystal ball, do their research, and to the
best of their abilities, try and look down the line
and how a player will develop. And that's why often
the underclass and get drafted ahead of the juniors or
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seniors or even tip for your players who have been
around longer, those players tend to go in the second round.
Great stuff. Leave. Are you still in San Francisco? Yes, Actually,
my mom's having some health struggles, so send up a
prayer and uh we're gonna see her through here. So
all right, send my regards and I look forward to
catching up with you in person very very soon. Thanks
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Maria Guest on Fox Sports Radio, Okay, take Doug, all right,
that's Steve Lavin. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three p m
Easter noon Pacific. I'm not sure you're aware, but Phil
Jackson signed a contract extension mid season this year. You
got him for three more years. Like imagine if you're
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a New Yorker right now and you're fed up with
the Knicks, you got you got Trump for three and
a half and you got Phil Jackson for three. Thank god,
the Yankees are good. So he ain't going anywhere, But
neither are the Knicks in their current status. Terrible contract
with Joe Kim Noah, just awful. Derrick Rose. I got
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Derrick Rose a free agent, and no one is discussing, right,
no one is discussing, and so we're left with this
what can the Knicks do? And so Phil Jackson is
doing what's absolutely prudent as a general manager. You evaluate
your assets and you find out what what are they
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worth on the open market. That's actually doing your job
as a Now that doesn't mean one he hasn't traded
prozingis he simply evaluated what his what the value is?
He called Phoenix and said, um, what about Devin Brooks? Right,
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because I'm sure the feeling is Devin Brooks a young star,
burgeoning star. Christophs prozingis a young, burgeoning star, and if
you can get Devin Brooks, then you can draft a
big guy and you may be further along. It's it's
not a terrible idea to evaluate what things are worth.
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It's the same reason that people go to Zillo, right,
you guys know it. Zillo is now look, Zilla is
not always accurate, and they've been sued in some places
or whatever. But there's this thing on Zillo called the
make Me move. You knownna make me move is what
you do is you like, like, I don't want to
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set my house, but if somebody wants to give me
a million dollars from my house, that is probably worth
eight thousand dollars. Goodbye, it's yours, right, which is all
that Phil Jackson is doing. He's creative. Make me move.
If the Boston Celtics want to give him the third
pick in the draft, to which he can pick either
Jayson Tatum or Josh Jackson, and they want to give
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him one more one more player so he can get
a young, up and coming rookie that he likes. Plus
he has his own he's his own eighth pick in
the draft. Maybe he takes lowry market in there, and
he can get an established player. If you can get
three players for what's two for if you get two
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for one and then potentially see if you can if
you can move Karmalo Anthony turned Karmalo Anthony and to
Kevin Love, why wouldn't you at least consider it, this
idea that no one is tradeable, no one is movable.
It does actually lead credence to what the Cleveland Cavaliers, don't.
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I think it's I think it's within with a couple
of people as the exception, it's crazy considered trading Kyrie Irving,
mostly because of the makeup of the Cleveland Cavaliers. But
one of the things that apparently management disagreed with David Griffin,
the now former general manager of the Cleveland Cavaliers, was
over the idea of at least considering trading Kyrie Irving.
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What's the value for him? What's the value for So look,
if you call a phiene because you're like, give me
Devin Booker and you can have christophs prezingis I don't
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think that's a crazy ask. And I think that's like
a make me move price on your zillo, you know,
and if somebody doesn't want to pay it, then you
don't sell it. My wife, on the other hand, she
does this like tag sails, like yard sales, just give
stuff away. I have a set of weights. They're polyurethane weights,
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like the stuff that you like in a weight room,
you know. I actually they're actually Harvard's weights. I couldn't
go to Harvard, but I could buy their weights second hand.
So I think I paid it for like five hundred
bucks firm. I knew the guy who was the dealer
who had traded out their weights. So my wife calls
me and she's like, when we're set to move across
country and she's like, well, the movie guys came and
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they said it's a couple hundred bucks just because these
weights are so heavy, So do you want to sell them? Like?
I don't want to sell them. She's like, would you
go to a gym? I was like yeah. But it's
still as my son gets older, it's still cool to
be able in a if I have a nice big
garage to put a little weight room in there, right,
a little place for we can go do some curls,
take him to the gun show. Right, You don't always
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have to go to the gym. If they're there, or
if I do sell them, like, I want to get
a reasonable value for him. So if somebody is willing
to pay a certain price, her problem is that she
just wears down like fine, Like if she had Christoph's
prezingis she'd be like, oh, you don't want to give
me the number three pick, fine, give me Jay Crowder
and I'm good. She just gets wearing worn down by
the whole negotiations of it. So I know it's very
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easy to criticize Bill Jackson, super easy. He hasn't always
said the right thing, and hiring Derek Fisher and frankly
Jeff HORNERSEEC might not have been the right thing. And
he's fought with Karbino Anthony, who look Karmin think was
the pay in the ask long before Phil Jackson never
got there. Derrick Rose was an oddfit that they took
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a one year flyer on. I would encourage them not
to renew unless it was like half of a max
contracts you get a starting point guard on the cheap,
like that's the only reason you do it. But in
this particular case, listing your house for sale and I
make new move price not crazy kind of smart, kind
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of smart Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Radio app. So Steph Curry this offseason can sign a
deal which is like the super Max, Right, what is
It's over two llion dollars, isn't it? Ryan Music? Do
you know the exact figure? I want to to the
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penny gross not net, I'm kidding about it. To the penny.
I think I want to say, it's two two million dollars.
That's that's what I want to say. If not sounds
really good? If I missed it by cup million, what's
a cup million? Among friends? Right? So we all know
that one of the reasons that this all came together,
that they were able to have the cap room to
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sign Kevin Durant last year, is that Steph Curry was
wildly underpaid because he was operating under a second contract,
and when he negotiated that second contract, it was in
his third year in the end, after I think four
is fourth year in the NBA. Since five year, two
ten million dollars, five years two dollars, that's an average
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of over forty million dollars, right my math? Right? And
then there's a lot of money. So I guess, I
guess here's what this is. I get that Steph didn't
make as much as he could have over the last
four years of US two MVP years, and so maybe
some of this is the evening at the scale. But
why why is it incumbent upon Kevin Durant to take
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three four million dollars less to sign andre Iguadala? Like
this is where teams go bad? Like if Steph Curry
loves playing with Kevin Durant. Speaking of credit cards, it's
like when you throw out a card and the other guy, no,
you know, no, you know you, I got it, I
got it. I guy. You start fighting, wrestling, you become
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best friends, and then you start punching each other out
because you want to pay for the bill. As your
wife said, don't let him pay. And what do you do?
What are you supposed to do when a bill comes?
You may go out with your buddy and his three
kids and his wife and it's you and your wife.
But what are you supposed to do? Ramos, what's the
proper etiquette there? Take grab the bill, take the bill first, right,
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But if he insists, like no, no, no, I'm not
gonna let you both kind of insist. What do you do?
You split it? Right? He split it and you don't, Well,
you don't split it, and you don't you don't split
it and go like, okay, well you have five kids,
you have five people, and I have two people, you know,
and I didn't order drinks and you order drink Like
now you don't like you know, we caught up in
that stuff. He just split it? Wait, wait it right,
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you're like all you feel like a big dog. You
kind of picked up some of his bill. He doesn't
feel bad like you weren't like showing him up, like
you make more money than him, like you just it's good,
We're fine, Like, just split it and then continue to
the dinner conversation. You know which if you have kids around,
it's usually or even you don't, it's usually about kids
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or about somebody else's getting a divorce getting married. Right,
you're just gossiping, but don't just this is it? Why
don't the warriors split it? Like the if the whole
end again, I'm I hate spending other people's money or
costing other people money, but wouldn't it makes sense? Like
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if Kevin Durant is the best player on the Golden
State worse, and he's the difference in the Warriors winning
this championship and not winn the championship. We can all
agree on that, ran He's clearly the difference. Even if
you don't. Even I'm not trying to diminish the importance
of stuff. They also don't win without stuff, and they
when it without clay. But don't you set a great
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precedent for the rest of the team if you go like, look,
I could be making forty nearly forty one million dollars
guaranteed per year, but I can't spend forty one million
dollars guarantee per year. He's got the deal with Express Clothes, right,
He's got a deal with under Armor, huge deal with
that r He's got all these other kind of deals.
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What's the new one? He just he just signed on
to Degree. So he has all these deals their side deals.
He's gonna make fifty million dollars anyway, Why don't say
like I could make forty but I'm watching what's happening
to the calves where they're capped out, They're they're topped out.
Cap Wise, I'll make thirty it's not a five year
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deal for a hundred fifty million dollars. I can't spend
thirty million dollars a year. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. There's like a whole different level
of what Lebron seems to be doing in Cleveland. Lebron
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talks about, tweets about does interviews about The Godfather and um.
Last night, David Griffin was officially parted ways with the
Cavaliers organization and Lebron I don't know if he was
sub tweeting the owner, Dan Gilbert, or whether he's simply
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keep making sure the world knew that his hands. We're
not dirty, right, I did not commit this crime. I
don't know nothing. I don't know anything about the murder
downtown officer. I'm simply a small businessman, small family businessman.
He sounded like Michael or Vito Corleone, and I do
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I feel like at some point he's gonna go up
to uh pat Riley and kiss him on the mouth.
And I'm who was you all along? Fraid? Oh? Right,
Well maybe he does it to Dan Gilbert. I don't know,
the point is this dude loves the Godfather. People come
in and they gotta kiss the ring. And he's got
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all his guys. He's got his CONSIGLIERI, Rich Paul, who
just happens to be the agent for like everybody else
on the team. He's got Maverick Carter like, he's got
all these different business interests, and he's completely gone legit.
He's completely legit. But last night there was a murder
in Cleveland. David Griffin's career was oft ended, finished and
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Lebron Jay's first thing he said was he had an alibi.
I always I always appreciate you, even if no one
else did. He wants to be the Godfather heart. So
here's the question I kind of know a Ramo's is
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gonna go. You gotta pick a movie character that you
either have found yourself wanting to be or you would
you would really like to emulate, like in your everyday life,
if I could be that guy. I already know who
who mine is, but I want to hear yours. Let's
start with you Ryan Music, who is it? I'm gonna
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go with Bradley Cooper. Yeah, I went, hold on, I
want to be Bradley Cooper. Okay, Bradley Cooper in the
movie Limitless. So Eddie Mora is his name in the
movie A Limitless where he takes the pill and then
and then he so, yeah, the the it goes back
to that idea that we only use a small portion
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of our brain, and so there's this pill out there
that unlocks the rest of your brain. So it becomes
like super smart. He reinvents his life. He becomes like
this like stock market guru guy who makes all this money.
There's some other like sketchy things that he kind of
gets involved with. And then at the end, uh spoiler alert,
you end up finding out that his brain becomes so
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advanced he doesn't even have to take the pill anymore
to be super smart. So he did spoil for me
because I know the movie but haven't seen the movie.
Thank you. It was appreciated, but it it's been out
since two thoun six years old. There is something funny
though about like if you if you've ever and people
go through this, if you ever come out of a movie,
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like if I went and saw Limitless and I came
back like I wanted to talk about with you, like,
we've all seen it, Doug, we saw it six years ago.
I still I want to talk about this movie. No,
but it was so so good. It was so damn good.
All right, So you want to be the lead character
from Limitless and you want to be anymore? All right?
What about you? I there's got to be some sort
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of Star Wars reference, framos is that who you want
to be? There is and it's not Darth Vader, it's
Luke Skywalker because Luke looks whiny. Forget about that. The
point is that I'm not whiny, but forget about the
point is that he has a of light side in him.
But as for finding out, now there's some dark side
as well. Oh there's there's dark. There's there's definitely dark.
I would have thought, like Han Solo would have been
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more I guess cocky. For me, I'm not that. I'm
not very cocky. There's a dark side to you. Isn't
there a dark side to everybody? Apparently? Apparently that's what
makes it interesting and unique? Um bye, what about you?
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How about Ferris Bueller? Ah? Yeah, good answer, good answer,
good answer. But as an adult, could you really get
away with being Ferres but let's it's kind of there's
another there's a character of college character ferres Bo was
the high school version Van Wilder because it was it
was also Ryan Reynolds right, like you wouldn't want to
be Round Rowns. I would Royn Browns would be. But
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but why Ferris Buell, Like, how would you how that
he lives his life? Would you want to live your
life if you could? Well? I like how he is cool,
how he everybody school likes him. You know, he's the
he's the cool kid who seems pretty carefree, gets the
girl you know, has the cute girl. Yeah, yeah, and
uh and you can get away with it and be
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smooth at the end. Great John Hughes movie, good reference.
I'm I'm good with it. Mine would actually believe be
Alec Baldwin's character in Glen Garry Glenn Ross right. The
coffee is for closers, you know, ABC always be closing,
always be closing. Attention? Do I have your attention? Right?
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You know what you know at second places? Gus? Do
you know at second places gust the intern? Do you
know it is second place to take a Gus? Take
a gus? Second place to set a stake nice. You
know what third places, guys their place, you're fire. First
prize is of Cadillac, second prize is Steak Nice. Their prizes.
You're fired. Put that coffee down, like that's who I
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I want to be. That coffee is for closers. Yeah,
you see that. You see that car over there. You
see this watch. This watch costs more than how much
you made all of last year. That's my name. It's
so good. So I I get that Lebron wants to
be Don Corleone by Michael more More Michael Corleoni, officer.
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I got nothing to do with what happened in Cleveland.
I always liked the guy. I had no problem with
David Griffin. But if the Don said, if Don Corleone said,
nobody touches him, right, nobody touches David Griffin. You hear
me to day. This is from Don Corleoni himself. Nobody
touches David Griffin. You touch David Griffin, You've got a
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problem with me. You understand. If that would have happened,
David Griffin's career would still be alive today. Instead, he's
sprawled out in the streets in Cleveland. Shock outline
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El folts couldn't win? As we get ready for the
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a night. No, I'm not talking about a Dodger you
couldn't pick out of a line up hitting his twenty
second home run of the year. I'm not talking about
anything baseball, nothing football. The basketball offseason has lasted all
of what a week, and it's already more interesting than
the basketball playoffs, and by the way, frankly more interesting
(01:26):
than the baseball off season. Like baseball Hot Stove League
used to be incredibly important and intriguing, and it just
wasn't really this year, right, wasn't. Oh, we have some
good stuff leaked out? Paul George wanted to be dealt.
Now the Lakers and Pacers are already talking trade, right,
so Paul George probably headed to the Lakers, forcing his
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way to Lakers. And the only question is what could
the Pacers possibly want outside of that number two overall pick,
which the Lakers aren't gonna part with in order to
land them Paul George, an asset which is depreciating by
the day. But the big news is what happened in Cleveland.
Cleveland has been to three straight NBA Finals. David Griffin
is in fact their general manager, or was up until
(02:11):
last night, when they parted company, they were in a
contract dispute, to which my thought yesterday at this very
same time was being Paul George deal done to get
the Jimmy Butler deal done. Then you can't fire him. Oops.
Lebron James tweets out how much he, even if no
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one else did, he really respected David Griffin, which leads
everybody to think Lebron's the good guy ownership the bad guy.
Lebron said, I didn't want him gone. But is that
what Lebron said? Or did Lebrons say? Even if no
one else appreciated you, I did. Did David Griffin bringing
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Lebron James? No? Did David Griffin bring in Tristan Thompson. No,
did get David Griffin bringing Kyrie Irving? No, Kevin Love
deal was kind of already pre arranged. And so while
David Griffin is in fact a good guy and it
is in fact a difficult job, it wasn't as if
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David Griffin was killing it. Now some of it is
bad luck. He made the cow Corver move, which all
of us are like, well, that's a hell of a move,
all right. I mean, arguably the best pure shooter in
the league, you can make the argument, I'm not talking
about player, who's the shooter. It's like Clay Thompson's a
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better basketball player and a really good shooter. But if
just if you line guys that be, like, who's the
best guy at making a three? Kyle Corver's in every discussion.
You need a shooter, Yeed that kind of puzzle piece
you bring him in. But what a great move Kyle
Corvern and Pia drop in the NBA Finals, and this
is what happens. Guy makes shots, You're a hero. Guy
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missed shots? Who went out? And that guy right. Some
of it is whether he felt compelled to, whether he
was pushed to Lebron's guys or his agents. Guys all
got taken care of. Tristan Thompson, huge deal, j R.
Smith huge deal, Kevin Love Max Steel. And even if
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those numbers now look more reasonable in comparison to the
current day, contracts, at the time in which the in
the context of the time in which they are signed,
they were not great deals. Lebron called him out mid
season talking about the roster, and while he may have
been mentioning to the ownership group, hey, you need to
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spend more money, they spend more money than anybody in
the NBA. Did they send spend smartly? So I don't
want to canonize David Griffin as if he's some heroic
figure who lost his job tragically last night. He did
a nice job, but he kind of arrived at a
team that had Lebron, Kyrie Tristan and the Kevin Love deal,
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like that was all done. What all did he do?
And while Lebron James wants to act like he's the
good guy in this whole thing, right, if if Lebron
James wanted David Griffin to be the general manager, David
Griffin would be the general manager. That that's the way
it works. He didn't have to have said he doesn't
have to have fired him. He doesn't have to have
said picked up the phone and said fire that guy,
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right effing now like that. No, they didn't have to happen.
But if arguably the best player in the world and
probably the second best basketball player, third best basket player
I've seen in my lifetime, says David Rivers, my gentleman,
he does the remember Jimmy Chitwood from Hoosiers, You guys,
remember Jimmy Chitwood from whoshers. You know they're gonna fire
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the coach, and then the Gene Hackman's the coach, and
everybody votes and the coaches fired, and Jimmy walks in
hold my basketball, stands up there, think like lingas thom
MNNA start playing some ball. Everybody goes crazy. He says,
was one more thing coach goes, I go coach days.
I stay right like you didn't even have to do that.
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If he did that, I mean, David Griffin would still
be the general manager and lo and behold like Chauncey
Billips is probably going to be the new guy who's
never been a general manager, never worked in the front office.
But of course, Mr big shot fifteen years in the
NBA covering the NBA this year, smart, savvy, well respected,
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be fine. And so while people are freaking out Lebron
is leaving, Lebron is gone. He's mad, No, he's not.
This is what happens with Lebron when when he loses,
it's always somebody else's fault. Right, Kevin Love wasn't good enough, right,
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Remember when they lost in Miami the first time it
was his fault. But after that, Dwyane Wade's knee Chris
Bosh too soft, just not good enough for written, just
that good enough supporting cast. That's what happened the first
year when they lost and and and in fact it
was accurate. Kyrie got hurt, Kevin Love got hurt. They
lost to the Warriors in six, same thing this year.
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Kevin Loves not good enough and Peace Dye could enough.
Kyle Corford can make shots. Gentle manager has got to go.
So the Lebron soap opera continues, and he keeps his
hands clean of everything. And it's interesting because Lebron's favorite
movie is in fact The Godfather, and much like the
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head of a mob organization that you can't there's too
many different layers to get to in order to pin
it on Vito Corleone. But what a fascinating, fascinating night
in the NBA, Like they just reached the finals three
eight years You're like, all right, what are they gonna next?
Fire the general manager? Wait? Wait, And there's talk of
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trading Carrie Irving. You're like, wait, wait, is the Lake
on fire now figuratively as opposed to literally like it
was five years ago. There's a historic note. There was
a time in which Lake Erie, which Cleveland resides upon
was so polluted that it acts the lake actually caught
on fire. That actually happened in our lifetime. That was
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literally now figuratively, and the idea of Chauncey Billips, which
is people sit there and go like, well what that
That couldn't work, That couldn't happen. Okay, Tyrone Loeu had
barely been an assistant coach and in mid season they
changed and that worked. So why wohin this work? Griffin
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had been a general manager before. But when you haven't
been a player, you don't have the feel of a player,
you don't have the relationships of a player. And the
only question for Billips would be would he be able
to are willing to have those hard conversations, not just
cutting dudes, but telling Tristan Thompson, you may be worth this,
but we gotta we mean, maybe we're X. We want
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to gotta pay you why so that we can go
out and get other guys who are worth X. But
it is fascinating to watch teams, especially the Calves, try
and keep up with the Joneses, trying to stay one
step ahead of it. But all this talk that Lebron
is headed to l a. He may well head to
Los Angeles. He might got a house here. There's the Lakers,
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there's the Clippers. There's the idea of raising your kids here.
He might. It could happen, but but knowing that it's
going to happen a year before it happens, when they
haven't hired replacement GM just because of one tweet to
which Lebron wasn't brought in. They didn't ask him if
he wanted David Griffin fired. If he didn't want David
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Griffin fired, David Griffin would be the general manager of
the Cleveland cavil It period. End of story. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome to
Steve Lavin, former u c l A head coach, of course,
(10:16):
former head coach of St. John's as well Fox Sports
College basketball analyst. I've I've done. I think we did
five NBA drafts together, uh lave um. If you were
taking number one overall, regardless of team, let's just say
you have to pick a player in this draft, who
is it? I'd go with Josh Jackson HM. Why I
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like the versatility, But again it's based on the team
and their roster and personnel that needs a quarterback or
an orchestrator pass first point guard, then you go with
Lonzo Ball. If the teams it's solid at the point
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and is looking for a perimeter punch, scoring and playmaking
from the two guard spot with someone that can slide
over and play some out top, then Marquel Bolt is
very attractive. But if it doesn't come down to the
needs of a point guard or scoring on the perimeter,
and you're just looking for a player best available, Josh
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Jackson intrigues me. Now I've heard he's struggled in some workouts.
I've heard there's some questions about the consistency on the shot,
So I think you have to factor that in again,
And that's really what the draft is about, is trying
to elevate or improve your team. Rarely does a player
like Shaquille, Tim Duncan, Bill Russell l Jahwan. Those players
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come along so oft in terms of front line players,
but it's about finding the right piece or fit the
need that a particular team has and also complementary piece
to those other players, and so so much of it's
going to come down to what are these particular teams
that are drafting at the top need and then looking
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at this particular draft the pool of players that are available,
because that also dictates the degree who you take. Steve Lavin,
Fox Sports College basketball analysts joining us Doug Gottliev show
Fox Sports Radio coach also worked for the Pac twelve network.
Why couldn't Marquel Fulls Elevators team? Well, I think number
one was no one anticipated that the John Day Murray
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and Marquis Chris would go out after their first year.
So if those two players returned, the Washington's probably looking
at thirty wins, competing for the Pack twelve championship and
making a run in the n C Double A Tournament.
But because the loss of Murray and Chris, what was
left behind was the situation that the young fellow wasn't
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prepared for And uh, no doubt. You know that's a factor,
and I'm sure people are looking at that and scrutinizing
the fact that he wasn't able to get Washington into
the nt Double A tournament. That a franchise changing player.
If you look through the history of the game, right
Bird magic, Isaiah Thomas adjacent Kidd at Cal, those were
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players that came in and transformed or at least elevated
those programs and made runs in the NT double A
tournament magic case they wanted and the Bird's case they're
runner up. Isaiah obviously won a national title. Jason Kidd
took Cal to Sweet six team, knocked off two time
defending national champion Duke at that point, So that I
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think is a factor that I'm sure people look at.
But also in fairness to him, when he played with
USA Basketball, they won a gold medal, and he clearly
has had success uh in the years leading up to
this freshman year at Washington, But his numbers, his talent
UH clearly there and with the right surrounding cast and
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a good fit, someone that can elevate an NBA team,
UM obviously not just coaching U c l A, covering
u c l A, understanding Los Angeles, but understanding the
point card position. When if I was to say Lonzo
Ball is the closest thing to Jason kidds since Jason
Kidd is that is that the wrong comparison? How do
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you feel about the comparison Where I do think they're
similar is they're brilliant in terms of passing the ball,
the precision um and the purpose that they play the
game with in terms of a functional or purposeful use
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of the dribble, of the bounce, the economy of the bounce,
because so often point guards will take that one extra dribble,
massage the ball and then not hit an open man,
or by the time they hit the open man, the
defenders closed out. But like great quarterback acts point guards,
you don't have to give it to you, uh you
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know where you want it, where you're going to be successful,
and to put it there on time in terms of
efficient offense. And so I think kids and ball are
similar in terms of the surgical or precision passing on
the floor and their intuitive uh you know, feel for
the game is exceptional. Jason Kidd was physically more stout,
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and he could impose his will on the game defensively
with his physicality and then offensively. I think he was
tailor made in terms of the next level for the
wear and tear of you know, a two plus games
if you're in the in the playoffs and count the exhibition.
He just he was a physical specimen. He was a
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man playing with boys in college. I was almost a
varsity verse bosshopper JV situation when he was a cow
going up against the rest of the packed well and
obviously went on to a Hall of Fame career, but
with launch of ball. My concern, you know, when you
compare him to the kid, is that he doesn't have
the physical stout strength. Jason Kidd almost was a football
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player in high tops, like a great running back, but
out on the floor with handles of skills. UM obviously
covering the PacTel Steve Laven Pactell Network, Fox Sports also
cover the n c A Tournament four for CBS Sports,
joining the Stug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. UM Lowry
Marketing is somebody who, apparently Phil Jackson loves, everyone wants
to call him. You know, the kristofs perzingis light. He
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struggled kind of towards the stretch run there in the
PAC twelve and you were covering the league. What's your
assessment of marketing and what we can expect from him
during his rookie contract. I'm a big fan of marketing.
My only concern we can talk about his strength because
I think they're pretty obvious. My one concern would be
(16:56):
his lateral foot speed and defending you know, on the
perimeter against quicker players, more athletic players, and managing you know, uh,
pick and roll, picking pop situations in the various ways
in the NBA that they defend, uh, you know, ball screens. Uh.
And so that ladder of even his foot speed north
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south from rim to rim got exposed at times against
teams like Oregon and really you know Arizona's ladder let's
be along the front line. All their foot line players
really struggled in that aspect and it did catch up
to them even if they lost against Savior. But what
I do like is for a player his size, the
ability to shoot the ball, to pass the ball, to
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see over the top, good instincts. You can slide him
inside where you could take smaller players, uh, you know,
into the basket area. He can step away with comfort
and a tremendous steel for the game. Offensively, Uh, there's
an ease or fluidity that he plays the game with,
and I think he'll continue to get better. So I
would expect him, you know, to be a solid ten
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twelve year pro who's capable of the double doubles and
putting up good numbers and a really good complimentary piece.
If he's right, if he's with the right uh you know,
team and the rights surrounding Google players. Um, but there
is some concern with his foot speed both rim to
rim and latterly from sideline sideline terms of picking up
the feed be able to defend on the perimeter. Let
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me ask you about a couple of super young players
that know you've seen Zach Collins Gonzaga Courses stock just
skyrocketed up because of their play in the n c
A tournament. And then Justin Patton from Craighton working for
Fox Sports covering the Big East. If you had to
bet your sizeable salary which allows you to travel the
world and send out incredible instagrams from all of the
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all over the globe, Steve Lavin, who who's more likely
to be the better pro? Justin Patton or or Zach Collins.
I go with pattent at this point, although I can't
go wrong with either, but the fact hadn't picked up
the game later in his life and it's just now,
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you know, beginning to get a feel on the sense
he's still growing into his body, and I think he'll
continue to make leaps and bounds as a player. But
you couldn't go wrong with either. But I'd say, Patt
and if you look down the line on the upside,
which was so often how the NBA drafts these days
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because there's so many young prospects coming out. Uh, and
as a result, you have to play that projection game.
That's what these gms get paid for, is to look
into the crystal ball, do their research, and to the
best of their abilities, try and look down the line
and how a player will develop. And that's why often
the underclass and get drafted ahead of the juniors or
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seniors or even tip for your players who have been
around longer, those players tend to go in the second round.
Great stuff. Leave. Are you still in San Francisco? Yes, Actually,
my mom's having some health struggles, so send up a
prayer and uh we're gonna see her through here. So
all right, send my regards and I look forward to
catching up with you in person very very soon. Thanks
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Maria Guest on Fox Sports Radio, Okay, take Doug, all right,
that's Steve Lavin. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three p m
Easter noon Pacific. I'm not sure you're aware, but Phil
Jackson signed a contract extension mid season this year. You
got him for three more years. Like imagine if you're
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a New Yorker right now and you're fed up with
the Knicks, you got you got Trump for three and
a half and you got Phil Jackson for three. Thank god,
the Yankees are good. So he ain't going anywhere, But
neither are the Knicks in their current status. Terrible contract
with Joe Kim Noah, just awful. Derrick Rose. I got
(20:53):
Derrick Rose a free agent, and no one is discussing, right,
no one is discussing, and so we're left with this
what can the Knicks do? And so Phil Jackson is
doing what's absolutely prudent as a general manager. You evaluate
your assets and you find out what what are they
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worth on the open market. That's actually doing your job
as a Now that doesn't mean one he hasn't traded
prozingis he simply evaluated what his what the value is?
He called Phoenix and said, um, what about Devin Brooks? Right,
(21:38):
because I'm sure the feeling is Devin Brooks a young star,
burgeoning star. Christophs prozingis a young, burgeoning star, and if
you can get Devin Brooks, then you can draft a
big guy and you may be further along. It's it's
not a terrible idea to evaluate what things are worth.
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It's the same reason that people go to Zillo, right,
you guys know it. Zillo is now look, Zilla is
not always accurate, and they've been sued in some places
or whatever. But there's this thing on Zillo called the
make Me move. You knownna make me move is what
you do is you like, like, I don't want to
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set my house, but if somebody wants to give me
a million dollars from my house, that is probably worth
eight thousand dollars. Goodbye, it's yours, right, which is all
that Phil Jackson is doing. He's creative. Make me move.
If the Boston Celtics want to give him the third
pick in the draft, to which he can pick either
Jayson Tatum or Josh Jackson, and they want to give
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him one more one more player so he can get
a young, up and coming rookie that he likes. Plus
he has his own he's his own eighth pick in
the draft. Maybe he takes lowry market in there, and
he can get an established player. If you can get
three players for what's two for if you get two
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for one and then potentially see if you can if
you can move Karmalo Anthony turned Karmalo Anthony and to
Kevin Love, why wouldn't you at least consider it, this
idea that no one is tradeable, no one is movable.
It does actually lead credence to what the Cleveland Cavaliers, don't.
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I think it's I think it's within with a couple
of people as the exception, it's crazy considered trading Kyrie Irving,
mostly because of the makeup of the Cleveland Cavaliers. But
one of the things that apparently management disagreed with David Griffin,
the now former general manager of the Cleveland Cavaliers, was
over the idea of at least considering trading Kyrie Irving.
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What's the value for him? What's the value for So look,
if you call a phiene because you're like, give me
Devin Booker and you can have christophs prezingis I don't
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think that's a crazy ask. And I think that's like
a make me move price on your zillo, you know,
and if somebody doesn't want to pay it, then you
don't sell it. My wife, on the other hand, she
does this like tag sails, like yard sales, just give
stuff away. I have a set of weights. They're polyurethane weights,
(24:27):
like the stuff that you like in a weight room,
you know. I actually they're actually Harvard's weights. I couldn't
go to Harvard, but I could buy their weights second hand.
So I think I paid it for like five hundred
bucks firm. I knew the guy who was the dealer
who had traded out their weights. So my wife calls
me and she's like, when we're set to move across
country and she's like, well, the movie guys came and
(24:49):
they said it's a couple hundred bucks just because these
weights are so heavy, So do you want to sell them? Like?
I don't want to sell them. She's like, would you
go to a gym? I was like yeah. But it's
still as my son gets older, it's still cool to
be able in a if I have a nice big
garage to put a little weight room in there, right,
a little place for we can go do some curls,
take him to the gun show. Right, You don't always
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have to go to the gym. If they're there, or
if I do sell them, like, I want to get
a reasonable value for him. So if somebody is willing
to pay a certain price, her problem is that she
just wears down like fine, Like if she had Christoph's
prezingis she'd be like, oh, you don't want to give
me the number three pick, fine, give me Jay Crowder
and I'm good. She just gets wearing worn down by
the whole negotiations of it. So I know it's very
(25:33):
easy to criticize Bill Jackson, super easy. He hasn't always
said the right thing, and hiring Derek Fisher and frankly
Jeff HORNERSEEC might not have been the right thing. And
he's fought with Karbino Anthony, who look Karmin think was
the pay in the ask long before Phil Jackson never
got there. Derrick Rose was an oddfit that they took
(25:56):
a one year flyer on. I would encourage them not
to renew unless it was like half of a max
contracts you get a starting point guard on the cheap,
like that's the only reason you do it. But in
this particular case, listing your house for sale and I
make new move price not crazy kind of smart, kind
(26:20):
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deal which is like the super Max, Right, what is
It's over two llion dollars, isn't it? Ryan Music? Do
you know the exact figure? I want to to the
(26:41):
penny gross not net, I'm kidding about it. To the penny.
I think I want to say, it's two two million dollars.
That's that's what I want to say. If not sounds
really good? If I missed it by cup million, what's
a cup million? Among friends? Right? So we all know
that one of the reasons that this all came together,
that they were able to have the cap room to
(27:02):
sign Kevin Durant last year, is that Steph Curry was
wildly underpaid because he was operating under a second contract,
and when he negotiated that second contract, it was in
his third year in the end, after I think four
is fourth year in the NBA. Since five year, two
ten million dollars, five years two dollars, that's an average
(27:28):
of over forty million dollars, right my math? Right? And
then there's a lot of money. So I guess, I
guess here's what this is. I get that Steph didn't
make as much as he could have over the last
four years of US two MVP years, and so maybe
some of this is the evening at the scale. But
why why is it incumbent upon Kevin Durant to take
(27:51):
three four million dollars less to sign andre Iguadala? Like
this is where teams go bad? Like if Steph Curry
loves playing with Kevin Durant. Speaking of credit cards, it's
like when you throw out a card and the other guy, no,
you know, no, you know you, I got it, I
got it. I guy. You start fighting, wrestling, you become
(28:13):
best friends, and then you start punching each other out
because you want to pay for the bill. As your
wife said, don't let him pay. And what do you do?
What are you supposed to do when a bill comes?
You may go out with your buddy and his three
kids and his wife and it's you and your wife.
But what are you supposed to do? Ramos, what's the
proper etiquette there? Take grab the bill, take the bill first, right,
(28:36):
But if he insists, like no, no, no, I'm not
gonna let you both kind of insist. What do you do?
You split it? Right? He split it and you don't, Well,
you don't split it, and you don't you don't split
it and go like, okay, well you have five kids,
you have five people, and I have two people, you know,
and I didn't order drinks and you order drink Like
now you don't like you know, we caught up in
that stuff. He just split it? Wait, wait it right,
(29:00):
you're like all you feel like a big dog. You
kind of picked up some of his bill. He doesn't
feel bad like you weren't like showing him up, like
you make more money than him, like you just it's good,
We're fine, Like, just split it and then continue to
the dinner conversation. You know which if you have kids around,
it's usually or even you don't, it's usually about kids
(29:20):
or about somebody else's getting a divorce getting married. Right,
you're just gossiping, but don't just this is it? Why
don't the warriors split it? Like the if the whole
end again, I'm I hate spending other people's money or
costing other people money, but wouldn't it makes sense? Like
(29:41):
if Kevin Durant is the best player on the Golden
State worse, and he's the difference in the Warriors winning
this championship and not winn the championship. We can all
agree on that, ran He's clearly the difference. Even if
you don't. Even I'm not trying to diminish the importance
of stuff. They also don't win without stuff, and they
when it without clay. But don't you set a great
(30:02):
precedent for the rest of the team if you go like, look,
I could be making forty nearly forty one million dollars
guaranteed per year, but I can't spend forty one million
dollars guarantee per year. He's got the deal with Express Clothes, right,
He's got a deal with under Armor, huge deal with
that r He's got all these other kind of deals.
(30:23):
What's the new one? He just he just signed on
to Degree. So he has all these deals their side deals.
He's gonna make fifty million dollars anyway, Why don't say
like I could make forty but I'm watching what's happening
to the calves where they're capped out, They're they're topped out.
Cap Wise, I'll make thirty it's not a five year
(30:44):
deal for a hundred fifty million dollars. I can't spend
thirty million dollars a year. Be sure to catch live
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I Heart Radio app. There's like a whole different level
of what Lebron seems to be doing in Cleveland. Lebron
(31:05):
talks about, tweets about does interviews about The Godfather and um.
Last night, David Griffin was officially parted ways with the
Cavaliers organization and Lebron I don't know if he was
sub tweeting the owner, Dan Gilbert, or whether he's simply
(31:28):
keep making sure the world knew that his hands. We're
not dirty, right, I did not commit this crime. I
don't know nothing. I don't know anything about the murder
downtown officer. I'm simply a small businessman, small family businessman.
He sounded like Michael or Vito Corleone, and I do
(31:53):
I feel like at some point he's gonna go up
to uh pat Riley and kiss him on the mouth.
And I'm who was you all along? Fraid? Oh? Right,
Well maybe he does it to Dan Gilbert. I don't know,
the point is this dude loves the Godfather. People come
in and they gotta kiss the ring. And he's got
(32:15):
all his guys. He's got his CONSIGLIERI, Rich Paul, who
just happens to be the agent for like everybody else
on the team. He's got Maverick Carter like, he's got
all these different business interests, and he's completely gone legit.
He's completely legit. But last night there was a murder
in Cleveland. David Griffin's career was oft ended, finished and
(32:39):
Lebron Jay's first thing he said was he had an alibi.
I always I always appreciate you, even if no one
else did. He wants to be the Godfather heart. So
here's the question I kind of know a Ramo's is
(33:00):
gonna go. You gotta pick a movie character that you
either have found yourself wanting to be or you would
you would really like to emulate, like in your everyday life,
if I could be that guy. I already know who
who mine is, but I want to hear yours. Let's
start with you Ryan Music, who is it? I'm gonna
(33:22):
go with Bradley Cooper. Yeah, I went, hold on, I
want to be Bradley Cooper. Okay, Bradley Cooper in the
movie Limitless. So Eddie Mora is his name in the
movie A Limitless where he takes the pill and then
and then he so, yeah, the the it goes back
to that idea that we only use a small portion
(33:45):
of our brain, and so there's this pill out there
that unlocks the rest of your brain. So it becomes
like super smart. He reinvents his life. He becomes like
this like stock market guru guy who makes all this money.
There's some other like sketchy things that he kind of
gets involved with. And then at the end, uh spoiler alert,
you end up finding out that his brain becomes so
(34:05):
advanced he doesn't even have to take the pill anymore
to be super smart. So he did spoil for me
because I know the movie but haven't seen the movie.
Thank you. It was appreciated, but it it's been out
since two thoun six years old. There is something funny
though about like if you if you've ever and people
go through this, if you ever come out of a movie,
(34:27):
like if I went and saw Limitless and I came
back like I wanted to talk about with you, like,
we've all seen it, Doug, we saw it six years ago.
I still I want to talk about this movie. No,
but it was so so good. It was so damn good.
All right, So you want to be the lead character
from Limitless and you want to be anymore? All right?
What about you? I there's got to be some sort
(34:48):
of Star Wars reference, framos is that who you want
to be? There is and it's not Darth Vader, it's
Luke Skywalker because Luke looks whiny. Forget about that. The
point is that I'm not whiny, but forget about the
point is that he has a of light side in him.
But as for finding out, now there's some dark side
as well. Oh there's there's dark. There's there's definitely dark.
I would have thought, like Han Solo would have been
(35:09):
more I guess cocky. For me, I'm not that. I'm
not very cocky. There's a dark side to you. Isn't
there a dark side to everybody? Apparently? Apparently that's what
makes it interesting and unique? Um bye, what about you?
(35:30):
How about Ferris Bueller? Ah? Yeah, good answer, good answer,
good answer. But as an adult, could you really get
away with being Ferres but let's it's kind of there's
another there's a character of college character ferres Bo was
the high school version Van Wilder because it was it
was also Ryan Reynolds right, like you wouldn't want to
be Round Rowns. I would Royn Browns would be. But
(35:50):
but why Ferris Buell, Like, how would you how that
he lives his life? Would you want to live your
life if you could? Well? I like how he is cool,
how he everybody school likes him. You know, he's the
he's the cool kid who seems pretty carefree, gets the
girl you know, has the cute girl. Yeah, yeah, and
uh and you can get away with it and be
(36:11):
smooth at the end. Great John Hughes movie, good reference.
I'm I'm good with it. Mine would actually believe be
Alec Baldwin's character in Glen Garry Glenn Ross right. The
coffee is for closers, you know, ABC always be closing,
always be closing. Attention? Do I have your attention? Right?
(36:36):
You know what you know at second places? Gus? Do
you know at second places gust the intern? Do you
know it is second place to take a Gus? Take
a gus? Second place to set a stake nice. You
know what third places, guys their place, you're fire. First
prize is of Cadillac, second prize is Steak Nice. Their prizes.
You're fired. Put that coffee down, like that's who I
(37:00):
I want to be. That coffee is for closers. Yeah,
you see that. You see that car over there. You
see this watch. This watch costs more than how much
you made all of last year. That's my name. It's
so good. So I I get that Lebron wants to
be Don Corleone by Michael more More Michael Corleoni, officer.
(37:23):
I got nothing to do with what happened in Cleveland.
I always liked the guy. I had no problem with
David Griffin. But if the Don said, if Don Corleone said,
nobody touches him, right, nobody touches David Griffin. You hear
me to day. This is from Don Corleoni himself. Nobody
touches David Griffin. You touch David Griffin, You've got a
(37:47):
problem with me. You understand. If that would have happened,
David Griffin's career would still be alive today. Instead, he's
sprawled out in the streets in Cleveland. Shock outline
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