Why James Harden Got Paid

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You're listening to Fox Sports Boom, What Up Its Duck Out,
Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio Live and Direct. Still in
the Holy Land, All Star Week is about to get
underway as the Home Run Derby, which is one of
the most boring things I've ever been to in my life,
and I've been twice. I dig the long ball, you

(00:24):
dig the long ball. It is an incredibly, incredibly boring,
boring display of borishness. Nonetheless, people are gonna watch Home
Run Derby is kind of like um and they keep
changing it, they keep evolving it, they try and speed along.
It's better on TV than it is in person. But
even on TV, it's like, how many ways can you
possibly describe? I mean, when Chris Berman didn't it was annoying,

(00:46):
But I mean, how many ways can you possibly describe
a home run? Seriously? Still, I want to see Aaron
Judge now far and hard he hits a baseball? Who doesn't? Uh.
The starting pitchers have been announced for the All Our Game.
Max Chaz who has the lowest whip, who has lost
whip in the National League. Course, He's won a cy

(01:08):
Young Award in the National and American League. Uh So
he narrowly beats out. You know, Clayton Kershaw obviously could
have been a starter. Kershaw with a point eight eight
whip shars with a point seven eight whip Sherzer has
a slightly lower e r a although he has fewer wins.
And this of course means a couple of things. One,

(01:29):
it's about reputation, but also it just it shows and
the Clayton Kershaw has been great. I'm not here to
tell you Kershaw hasn't been great, and that Kershaw wouldn't
have a have a fighting chance at a cy Young
Award UM if it wasn't if it were announced today.
But it also shows that we don't solely pay attention
to wins and losses. Is uh. Kershaw is fourteen and

(01:51):
two and cher is ten and five. Chris Sale also
the lowest whip in the American League. That helps his cause,
whereas Jason Vargas actually has the lowest e r a
UM and Jason Vargas has also has more wins on
the year, and he's playing with an inferior team in

(02:14):
the Kansas City Royals. And yet Chris Tale gets to
start second consecutive year, second consecutive year that Chris Tale
gets to start for the American League with a this
time with a different team. That's you know, last year,
White Sox, this year with the Red Sox. I continue
to not understand why every team meets an All Star.

(02:34):
Don't get it, not every We don't need participation trophies
for twenty five year olds, we just don't. We don't
need participation trophies for cities that already know they suck
at baseball. Hey, we suck at baseball. Thanks for pointing
out the fact that we couldn't find anybody good nut
to be considered a real All Star, so you added
a middle relief pitcher. Nonetheless, it's in Miami, which uh

(02:58):
is an organization that they had John Carr of Stanton,
and they have a cool stadium, and it's in Miami
in the summer indoors. It's just it's one of those
things where baseball some times can't get out of its
own way. It just can't. And look baseball regionally very
healthy on television, Baseball Attendant's wise, pretty darn't healthy. Baseball

(03:20):
is gonna have a spectacular spectacularly for them for them,
I'm not saying it's gonna be Super Bowl. And you're
probably not gonna get the same push from the Cubs
Cubs fans, unless course the Cubs go on a run.
But like, look, if the Cubs can turn this thing around,
which I do think at some point, talent, uh cream
rises to top. I mean, but they have a worse
run differential than the St. Louis Cardinals, for example. It's crazy.

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Then the Texas Rangers they have. The Chicago Cubs have
scored the exact same number of runs as they have
given up and we are eight games into the season.
That is bizarre how bad they've been. But there's tons
of in fighting, an ego and immaturity in that uh,
in that locker room, and that's the only possible explanation

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for why they've been so very average, and it's subpart
considering their talent. But look, baseball is gonna have the
Red Sox, the Yankees, um the Astros, which the Astros
don't have a vibrant fan base. Union of the Astros
are sixty and a half games up, I mean sixty
and a half games up at the All Star break.

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The Nationals, probably the Cubs and the Dodgers, like all
the major markets, all big name teams, big name players,
are going to be playing in postseason. It's going to
be four baseball a very well watched UM postseason. But
like of the of the times that you want to
be in Miami, this is quite possibly the last outside

(04:53):
of hurricane season. There is no time you'd less want
to be in Miami and then right now, right then,
right now, And I get it. It's a reward for
building a new stadium that people still don't go to
because the team is not any good, but Miami in
the summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh. Rob Manfred had this

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to say about the fact that more home runs are
being hit now than will ever in baseball. I think
the sport goes through cycles. You know, sometimes pitchings dominant, um,
sometimes hitters are more dominant. We have seen a change
in the way that the game is taught at the
youth level, UM. A change in approach at the major
league level. Way more analytics, way more tolerance of plays

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like strikeouts that people didn't used to, less interest in
the stolen base, you know, all these analytics and as
a result, the games being played a little different. UM.
I will say, our research shows are fans like home runs, yeah,
which is why they change the strikes own like our
our players are players, um are many of them changing

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the trend of hitting on the top half of the
baseball and hitting middle or even lower half of the baseball.
It's baseball players say their money in the air, not
in the ground. Yeah, there's a little bit of that,
but it also helps home run hitters when they don't
have nearly as big as zone up or down to
be called a strike. Pitchers are throwing harder than they've
ever thrown, so the ball should if the contacts made

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go further. I do think that weight training, UM and
offseason training and swing development. I think all of these
things are important. But Rob Banfred could at least be honest,
and it's like it would be like if Adam Silver
didn't at least tip the cap to the fact that, hey,
ten years ago, we changed the way we called the game,

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and because of it, now we have all these three
point shots, which artificially increases some of the stats and
many of the final scores. It's the same thing in baseball.
It changed the way the strike zone is called. It
changed the way the strike zone is called. So if
the strike zone is smaller, you have to think there's
less to see less spots to see and you can

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sit back wait for your pitch. And if you don't
think that that's a reality, well then why did they
change the strike zone to begin with? And why has
there been such results? Right? The control group has been
the last ten years since they've taken steroids out of baseball,
to which home runs have been an all time low.

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They changed the strike zone, and all of a sudden,
now it's the influx of the new hitting style in
Little League Baseball. Like stop it that was born at night,
not last night. All right, Bruce Arians is going to
join the show upcoming in uh seven or eight minutes.
I want to ask him about the idea of having

(07:54):
Larry Fitzgerald back, even though Larry Fitzgerald I thought at
least to some vel about retirement. And we gotta ask
him at Carson Palmer how much does he have left
in the tank? How affected was he by the playoffs
two years ago? We'll ask Bruce Arians in a moment.
I want to get to this. Over the weekend, James

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Harden agreed to the largest extension in the history of
the NBA, which will pay him forty seven million dollars
a year. Now on On one hand, this does help
with the argument, which is the opposite of many arguments
people have have made, and it's accurate. You get paid

(08:36):
for the regular season. Like people want to ask, well,
why don't NFL players strike they deserve more money. Well,
there's more NFL players. They play a sport to which
they're more likely to be injured, so there's a less
likelihood that they'll play every game or play for three,
four or five year guaranteed contracts. And oh yeah, by
the way, they only play sixteen games. Why the Major

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League Baseball players, why, why is Bryce harp We're gonna
sign for four hundred million dollars or somewhere in the
neighborhood of because in addition to inflation and addition to
the market and what he can do with the baseball
and that he's an everyday player. If Bryce Harper plays
a hundred and fifty games, it's the amount of appearances
he makes. Like basketball players and football players and baseball

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players are no different than musicians these days. Musicians don't
make money. They can make a little bit of money
off downloads. They make money based upon how many concerts
they do, Like, why do these groups keep touring because
that's where the money is. They don't love you, Cleveland.
They love the fact that the more shows they do

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with the lower overhead, they have more money they make.
That's why they love you, Cleveland, with love your clevelood.
You're in Columbus anyway, So look, you get paid for
the regular season. Your legacy is based upon the postseason,
which tells you all you need to know about James Harden.

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Sure he welcomed in Chris Paul. They're trying to get
Karmelo Anthony that team. It's all seems like a short
term not a long term solution. Because while James Harden,
based upon the salary cap, the collective Barton Agreement and
where he is in his contract, is entitled to the
largest increase in the history of the NBA by letter

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of the law, he is entitled to it, but isn't.
Didn't James Harden struggle in the playoffs? Like look, he
was bad in the playoffs in two deciding games when
the San Antonio Spurs didn't have Tony Parker who blew
is out his quadriceps tendon, and didn't have Kawhi Leonard.

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Remember then KWin Letter didn't even play and they lost
at home to the San Antonio Spurs. And the argument
we heard that James hard needs help, Well, I don't
know if there's a salary cap which at some point
becomes a fixed number to which you can go over.

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But you you have you can spend within kind of
the confines of And you have one guy taking up
forty seven million dollars of that cap. And I know
they got Chris Paul, and I know they'll probably get
Carmelo Anthony on the chief that's their hope. But they'll
trade away or whatever. Isn't that prohibitive from Doesn't that

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prohibit you from getting the type of well rounded cast
it's gonna take to actually beat the Golden State Warriors,
the Cleveland Cavaliers or any of these other teams. The answer,
of course, is yes, which tells you that James Harden
cares not about his legacy. He cares about his regular season,
should have won the m v P one of the
past three years, and how much money he makes. But

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don't ever tell me it's about winning when you take
all that money? Who never tell me that? All right,
we'll turn the football up coming next. Bruce Arians is
our guest. Bruce Arians is our guest. Um, we gotta
catch up on the Arizona Cardinals as we get ready
for training camp. The Niners being down, the Rams still

(12:12):
kind of trying to figure out if they have their
guy at quarterback. It seems like they should challenge the Seahawks,
seeing as they've challenged the Seahawks in the past, but
last year didn't weren't count so well well as ba
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Fox Sports Radio. Bruce arians gonna join us in moments.
He has a new book out. It's uh, it's called
The Quarterback Whisperer. Uh. You know, here's the guy worked
with Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew luck Now, Carson Palmer, Tim Couch.
Obviously that didn't work out so well and uh and

(12:56):
Peyton man him get his thoughts on the differences in
the star quarterbacks and why some guys who have so
many of the tangibles can't put the intangibles together, Like
what is it that separates those guys more so than
just you know, like at somebody wants to take credit
I'm sure for his coaching, but some of it is
in the makeup of those men. So Bruce Arians will
will join us. Cardinals are interested. Oh he's joined us. Great,

(13:18):
Bruce Arians joins us the book as the quarterback whisperer Bruce,
How are you? I'm doing great? How you guys doing good? Man? Um,
let's let's let's start with the book. You've worked with
some of the best, obviously Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, more recently
Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck. What is it in your mind

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from somebody who works with these men on a daily
basis and helps mold them, What is it that allows
them to succeed? Because there's other quarterbacks that have the
tangible goods, have the arm, strength, have the feet, have
some of the vision. What is it the that separates
the guys that make it, that do it, from the
guys that can't. Well, each one of those us is different,

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but there's one common thread, and that's the grit that
that they refused to lose type of any I don't
care what sport they're playing, if it's golf, tennis, ping pong, whatever.
They're gonna will there on everybody on their team to win,
and they just hate losing. You mentioned, they're all different,
all right, So I'll say I'll say one of their names.

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You give me one kind of bullet point on what
separates them. Big Ben Superman in what way? He's He's
got a kate, you know, he's he never thinks there's
a play that's dead, and it never is because he
bounces off people. He does things that no one else
can do. I mean, that's Superman. He makes more touchdowns

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on broken plays. He'll kill you on the on the
regular design play, but he really kills you on the
broken place. Andrew Luck all the all of the he
he's all. He's all the others in one um. Having
had Manny Ratherisburger, Uh, Tim Cows and those guys. But

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he's all of those guys in one um. Brilliant, brilliant
young man. What about what about Peyton? And Peyton is
so accomplished, and yet there were the postseason feelings of
the team. Um what you when you're when you're sitting
there and you're watching tape and you're talking to Peyton Manning,
what was The one thing that was different about Peton

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meaning from anybody else, well, his I called him the
Piranha because he could just eat up so much information
and and desire to have all this information. Uh, most
guys that would have been paralysis. Through analysis, he got
better with more and more information, um than anybody else

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can handle. All Right, you're you're now working obviously with
Carson Palmer. Big year for him is salary dips, so
it feels like either he stays and he's playing or
maybe retires for for a second time. He had arguably
his best season as a pro with you a couple
of years ago. Obviously had some really good years in
Cincinnati previous to that. What about Carson Palmer is different

(16:13):
from the rest of the star quarterbacks you worked with?
The work ethic, I mean he truly he works, sometimes
works too hard. I think he overworked last summer and
came into camp with a little bit of a sore arm.
And then we we found out later that a better
work regimen for him, and then this spring um holding

(16:35):
him out a little bit. But um workaholic, I mean
weight room studying. Uh loves virtual reality now and uses
it tremendously. Bruce Arians joins us. The Quarterback Whisper is
the book. You can pick it up. Stud Gotlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. I mentioned it's a big year yet
a lot of turnover on the defensive side of the ball,

(16:56):
losing four starters. Um, Larry Fitzgerald at LEAs on some
level thought about walking away the free agent at the
end of this season. How important you think success the
playoffs is? Uh, it's important every year, but how important
is it specifically this year to your team? Every year?
And we when we have one goal, let's to win

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the Super Bowl. We got to get into the playoffs
first and hopefully win our division. I mean those are
goals that we set every year and then we put
on the side and we start going to work every
day and accomplished the things that we want to accomplish
in that practice every day. But I love this football team.
I thought the additions were much better than the subtractions
on defense and offensively, we've got everybody healthy and uh

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um John Brown looks to be healthy again, which would
be huge force. But defensively Carlos Dansby and Antoine but
they were great additions to our to our team and
the draft. Robert Candici is healthy now after his rookie
year had at high anchole spring o years. I really
like where defense is all right. I want to get
back to this book really quickly. Um. The book is

(18:06):
not just quarterback with but how to build an elite
NFL quarterback. Bruce, I'm a I'm a father of an
eight year old boy. Right, I got no idea how
big he's gonna be, but he's got a good arm.
But the question that all of us parents ask ourselves
is when do we do we specialize? And you're a
guy who watches and molds and coaches elite NFL quarterbacks.

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If you could advise a father of a burgeoning quarterback,
would you tell them to focus on just being a quarterback?
And if so, at what age? No, I would play
all sports. I don't like specialization. I think, uh athletes
um have to be you have to play two or
three different sports to become a real good athlete and

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train all the muscles in your body to become a
great athlete. I don't think you can do that through
weightlifting and things, especially at nine, ten, eleven, twelve years old.
You gotta play every sport and become a leader. I
mean hereship is probably the number one thing, and playing
quarterback throwing in the football is probably a second. So. Um,

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but to me, I'm not one of these guys that, hey,
ten ten years old, do you only play baseball? You
only play football? You go to these camps. To me,
you're depriving that guy from becoming a truly rounded athlete. Um, okay,
So leadership is number one, throwing a football is number
is number two. Um. Look, you have in southern California,

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you have to elite quarterbacks. But they're both very young,
al right. You have Josh Rosen and Sam Donald. Donald
is just a red shirt freshman, did not start all
of last year. What about the idea of of when
you come out of college and not You can't I
know you can't talk about these players specifically, but for
somebody who has helped so many achieved so much in

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the NFL, how much how many games do they need
to play? How many years they need to play in
college as a starter before they have at least some
sort of database and then step into a completely more
difficult uh sport in the National Football League. Well, yeah,
I'd like to see guys stay three years. But um,

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each one, so individually different um, their family situations, whatever
it is as far as they're going to draft at
any position, but at quarterback, I think you need to
play at least three years. And you know, if you're
twenty and you're stepping in a huddle a thirty or
two year old lineman with four kids, I don't know
how good a leader you're going to be. Yet, you

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know you better be damn sure you know everything you
know about your office. Uh if one of these guys
asked you a question, so, Uh, it's a little bit
different from being the stud in college and stepping into
a huddle at the NFL with guys ten and twelve
years older than you who have been doing it for
a long time and the feeding families and you're the

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guy that's gonna put bread on their table. Do you
know right away? Like, can you watch a guy play
even in his first year and saying he ain't got
it or he's got it before anybody if you watch
him play in the NFL, can you tell or can
they evolve over time? Tell me how your brain works.
I think they can evolve. Yes, So much of it

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depends on the team that they get on and the
culture of that locker room. Um, you know, if you're
the number one pick, you're going probably the worst team
in the league. Unless somebody traded up for you, then
you got really lucky. Uh So, you know, I look
back at Timmy Couch and David Carr, two guys I
thought were tremendous, got put on expansion teams and just

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got broken up. I coached Tim Couch. He was a
hell of a player. No way in any way was
he ever a bust. He had broken up. Last time
the Browns went to the playoffs, Tim Couch took him
and they broke his leg in the last game. But
it's your it's your. Football is the greatest game because
there's twenty two guys. You know, everybody says this quarterback's
not Rady doesn't have that many Super Bowl wins. What

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would he might have a defense? Uh So, there's so
many rampant there's so many variables in the winning, not
necessarily playing a great quarterback. It's a great, great point
about Tim Catch. The great point about David Carr, of course,
was you know act it seemed like a thousand times
during that expansion year and they lost. Course, Tony Pisell
Boselli never played from the first pick up. The expansion

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draft could have protected him. Hey, Bruce, it's a great book.
You can get it on Amazon wherever books are are
are Soul the Quarterback Whisper. How to build an lead
NFL quarterback from a guy who has done it and
continues to do it in the desert. He's Bruce Arians,
the head coach at the Arizona Cardinals. B A, thanks
so much for join us in the dug out lip show.
All right, thank you brother, all the best. All right,

(22:44):
thanks so much. Bruce Arians joins us. I mean, I
just I'm sorry. I like talking quarterbacks right, and he does.
It's a really really important distinction to make not all
quarterback suck, because they suck sometimes. Quarterback he was using
his term, is broken up. Like you know, you get

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shell shocked. You're constantly your your feet get quicker, your
release gets quicker. I mean, if you watch um, you
know the best example is is Philip Rivers, who by
all accounts, by anybody's account though his throwing motion is different.
Like he is a tremendous he's a elite quarterback, but
he's played on bad chargers teams and last year, he

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turned the ball over a bunch, and part of it
was he's had a bad line for years. And when
we have a bad line, you do what what Eli
Manning was doing last year? You get rid of a
super super super quick. Is I'm getting rid of a
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a week ago? The Danni age? Oh Danny Ane an idiot?
An idiot? What is he doing? Why didn't he go

(24:08):
get Paul George? I mean, all it took was two
players to go get Paul George. All it took was
Victor Oladipo and Demas Sabonis and you could have had
Paul George. Why did you do that? I don't know.
Here's the thought. Maybe he didn't want Paul George like
you ever. I think maybe he's like, okay, like in

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order to get Paul George, I gotta trade away guys
a lot of guys. I got a trade with a
lot of guys, and um maybe notes that Jason Tatum
is gonna be really good, Jalen Brown is gonna be
really good, Gordon Hayward is gonna be really good. He
likes Marcus Smart's toughness. You know he might need and

(24:51):
I still think they need another guard as they went
from guard heavy to swing men heavy. But I watched
Chase and Tatum play in Summer League, and obviously the
back to backs. He wasn't as good in the second
part of the back to backs, but you watch him playing,
you're like, and I listen. I also know that Jayson
Tatum is the most ready to play of any of

(25:12):
the NBA draft prospects. But it's just it's altogether possible
that in watching NBA Summer League, which I think most
of us has sports fans, and did you might have
passing interest on Lonzo Ball and how that circus would work.
Terrible first game, triple double, second game, Mark el folts
really good, then he sprains his ankle, He's out for
the remainder. Did you watch these guys play? Dennis Smith,

(25:33):
who just he's a freak show athletically just that same
thing with Daron Fox, great end end speed. Oh my gosh,
you watched him play and you just salivate over there, like, Wow,
there's these guys a good chance because now, look, it's
not against NBA competition. It's like a it's a beginning,
it's a baby step toe in the water to what
it's gonna be like in the NBA. And not only

(25:54):
do they are they playing against inferior players right now
compared to the ones are gonna play against what they're
also not playing, you know, four nights in a week
to which you have no legs and you're just dead tired,
and you're playing against better competition. But is it costible?
It's just I don't know. Maybe it's just possible that
Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. That's what I That's

(26:17):
the only thought that came through my mind when I'm
watching Jayson Tatum, because I've heard my brethren at Fox Sports.
I've heard Colin Coward. Oh, you're just holding on to prospects.
You're still you're not closed to the calves, You're not like, Okay,
but Jayson Tatum makes them better, yes, Marcus Morrison makes
them better, Yes, Gordon Hayward makes them better. Yes, yes, yes,

(26:39):
Jalen Brown is going to continue to get better correct correct,
and they have three first round draft picks next year
as well as all of these players that they can
still kind of move and manipulate and refine their roster.
It's possible that your vision for how it should be

(26:59):
is and how it should be. I used this all
the time. Um music, you're tough. You don't own a house. Uh,
I know, Ramo's you own your house. You have the
same house since right, alright, same house since the Ramo's
family occupies. Do you have an open kitchen concept? Like,

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is your kitchen out in the open to like a
great room or is it? Ums? Tell me what the
style of kitchen as to the rest of the house is.
It is not open kitchen though we really want an
open kitchen, but it is not. It is separated by
a door. By a door. Okay, you just take out
the wall and then that that what has to happy
to take out the one. Now? Is there is there
an eat in in the kitchen or is it just kitchen?

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It has a breakfast snook so we can eat in there,
very nice breakfast nook. I can just I can just
imagine Rama's house of his ever for sale. It has
a beautiful breakfast nooks, wonderful eat in kitchen, family environment.
This has been a true home as uh the owners
have lived in it for eighteen years. Anyway, Um, so

(28:05):
when you watch any of these h G TV shows, right,
like the Property Brothers, they're actually friends of my Property Brothers.
They do the open concept thing. They're oh, they want
to be the opening. Yes it was a name drop. Sorry, Anyway,
we watch these things that are like open concept. Now, look,
I don't want to close off. I don't just want kitchen, okay,
and I don't just want kitchen. And I'm like almost

(28:25):
like you don't necessarily just want kitchen and breakfast nook.
But I will tell you that when your kitchen opens
to like the family room and it's like this big,
great great room and it's a total open concept. Like
sometimes you want a separation of church and state, right,
Sometimes you want to cook and have a conversation because
everybody has tensing to migrate towards the kitchen. Sometimes you

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want the kitchen to have its own eating, have its
own bar, but not be open to the TV room
because the TV is always loud, right, Sometimes you want
the kitchen to be quiet, or sometimes the kitchen is
in fact loud and the TV is loud, which makes
the grid room ronight loud. The point is this that

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you can think that it's like you're a builder. Like
you can think like, well, you know, I'm gonna build
an open concept because everybody likes no open concept. But
that's your thinking of your hopes and dreams matching up
with what somebody else wants in their home. You know,
your idea of how an architect should create flow on

(29:32):
the first floor and how they should put the bedrooms
and the Jack and Jill and the other and then
if you have a guest room whatever on the second
floor wherever you have in the house like that, that
doesn't necessarily match up with everybody else. My point is
that your vision of the Celtics and what they should do,
they should go get Paul George. They didn't do it,
they blew it. They should add to Paul George and

(29:53):
should add Gordon. Hey, would you know? They can't do that?
Don't matters. You're done anyway, Your vision should of what
body else wants. Not necessarily there are other people like
you know, here's the thing, um, the all white look
and white and grays. I don't know if you guys
know this right now. Everybody's white and grayed at the
whole house. The kitchen is always white. It's always an

(30:14):
open concept. And that's gonna change. It's gonna evolve. Not
everybody wants that. Not everybody wants that. So I remember
when Danny Angel is an idiot, and now it appears
he's not. Ben Simmons says he's a starting point guard

(30:34):
in the NBA. Big deal, little deal or no deal?
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I look, this is a big update. I don't even
Rafa Nadal lost in uh at at Wimbledon. Remember when
Rafa Nadal was the greatest tennis player ever and now
he's not. But I I do think this when you're
down two sets to love to come back and forth,

(31:19):
not just a fifth set, uh um to you know,
to to to play that long and that hard, and
although he came up short, there is a certain grind
to it. There's like it's one of the things that
people used to respect about Tiger Woods when he was
the best golf in the world was that Tiger Woods
never missed a cut and would always find a way

(31:40):
to sneak into a top ten or just you know,
get out with without a ton of blood on the car,
just grind through a bad round. That's what I WoT
Rafa Nidal. But it is interesting on how we've gone
from Roger Vetter is the greatest ever, to Rafa Nadal
is the greatest ever. Two Novak Djokovic is the greatest
ever too, back to Roger Vetitor, back to Nidal after
the French opened and now he's he's out. Let's get

(32:02):
to that my sack. Let's reach into godly sack. And
Andy Murray Doug is the top seat at Wimbledon. So
it's uh, it's quite a change over these last couple
of years. But Federer and Sampras though really I think
of our generation really the top two wouldn't you say Tennis? Um, yeah,

(32:25):
I mean I do have to hold it somewhat against
Have either of them won the French I don't. Yeah, yes, yeah,
Roger did once. I do think you have to win
on clay, Um, that would be that would be my thing.
I think we all liked Sampras more than he was.
I don't think he was as good as these guys.

(32:48):
Joke a match to me when at his best has
been he is the best player of this group. He
just hasn't been his best. And uh, Nadal is the
best on clay that that I've ever seen in my lifetime.
I know biorn Borg was before that, but uh, in
my lifetime, it's been titles. Let's see if we can
find ten titles in gottlieb Snack big DEALT no DEALT

(33:13):
of trophies, a lot of medals, a lot of French opens.
But today we get big deal, a little deal or
no deal, Doug, big deal, a little deal or no deal.
The National League manager Joe Madden told reporters today that
even if Clayton Kershaw was eligible to pitch, Max Scherzer
still would have been the starter for tomorrow's Midsummer Classic
but even if who would be Eli Baking Kershaw. So

(33:34):
Kershaw is not gonna be able to pitch because he
threw yesterday. But Madden said it didn't matter, he was
gonna go with us or anyway as his starter. Um. Yeah,
I don't think this is tweaking tweeting Clayton Kershaw. I mean, like, look,
it's as I'm a Clayton Kershaw guy. He's the best
let He's the Sandy Kofax of this generation. I understand
that there have been playoff games in which he's had

(33:56):
bad seventh innings and last year his last outing he
was in great although he had some great outings last
year in the playoffs. But Max Scherzer has won a
cy young in the American and National League, and he's
had in a couple incredible outings this year and we
have by the way, his whip is lower than Clayton Kershaw.

(34:16):
So I don't disagree with it. I don't disagree with
it at all. Courshaw has got the fourteen wins. Shurs
Are also edges him in e r A. So a
close choice, but it's going to be sure because it's
no choice. Kershaw can't throw tomorrow. Big deal, a little
deal or no deal? Free agent garden, former member of
the Utah Jazz Trey Burke, says that after fans burned
Gordon hayward jerseys that no one wants to play in

(34:37):
Utah because they because a couple of fans burn his jersey.
He ended up sending out a tweet saying nobody wants
to play in Utah, and then another tweeter responded saying,
why do you say that? Is it because the nightlife?
Is it because the weather the city? And he responded, well,
you saw that they were burning his jerseys. Yeah, I

(34:59):
don't think there's anything know that. I mean, look, I
do I think that free agents don't necessarily want to play.
Some of them don't wanna play in Oklahoma City. I
don't want to play in Salt Lake City. Um, I
spent a week in Salt Lake City. I think it's
kind of kind of nice. I mean, look, if I was,
it was it takes to it takes a different kind
of player. But I don't like you can go out
in Salt Lake City. I mean, is it is it

(35:21):
l a like no? Is it in New York City?
And like no? Again, depends on the kind of guy,
you have like this idea of places to go, like
san Antonio has built a juggernaut. San Antonio landed LaMarcus Alters.
Now LaMarcus Salters is not working in San Antonio. But
it's not because of san Antonio. It's because he's a
bad fit for this, for not a good defense player,
and he hasn't come up great in the playoffs like

(35:43):
I just I do. There are players that don't want
to play in Salt Lake City. Has nothing to do
with anybody burning somebody's jersey because the organization could not
have handled it any better, local newspapers, local fans. I mean,
he's beloved the kelled people burners jersey like yet so
you're going this is the stupidity of Trey Burke, right
if you're going off of what one or two? This

(36:04):
this is why you can't take social media as reality.
Because two people burn their jersey doesn't mean that there's
like a mass jersey burning party for anybody who's the
season ticket order. Even if there was, who cares? But
don't you think there are markets in the NBA that
just have a disadvantage. I know it's an easy thing.
I think I think it's an easy thing to say

(36:26):
that the playing field is is level, but it's not
for some markets because free agents would rather go to
New York or l A or Houston or Phoenix or Miami.
They never go to Saltwood. Hey, so why do why
do both New York teams suck? Why do why is
the l a Lakers? That has nothing to do with it?
Why Chicago Bulls suck? All? What the point is is
the Spurs have to would draft their players. Most of

(36:47):
their players that they have are acquired within and that's
what Utah has to do. That's what Look at the Timberwolves.
The Timberwolves are putting together quite a heck of a team,
but it's really Jamal Crawford as being the only guy
that is coming there is a free agent. Everything else was.
They also trade away Kevin Love, one of the guys
that were homegrown, and that that's how they got Andrew Wiggins.

(37:07):
And then they have you know, yes, you have to draft. Well,
I mean it's a combination of both. But this idea
that what you can't get free agents, like, there's not
a lot of free agents that that that are you know,
alpha's anyway that change you. And yes, most some guys
would pass on salt like but they want to play
for good teams, good organizations. I don't know. I I

(37:28):
think I think a little bit. It's overdone and it's
definitely not because somebody burned somebody's jersey. That's stupid. Big deal,
a little deal or no deal. Ben Simmons in the
Philadelphia seventy six. He's told reporters again yesterday that while
he can play anywhere, he is a starting point guard
and will be when the season starts. Good. That means
you have to guard the other teams starting point guard.
That could be problematic. That could be problematic. I look,

(37:50):
I do. I love Ben Simmons and the way he plays.
He makes people better. Um, he is in a debt passer.
He's kind of part Magic Johnson, part Lebron James lamar Odom.
I wish you would just say, like, I'm a basketball player.
But we'll see. If he's a point guard, we shall
final one. Big deal, little deal or no deal. Showtime

(38:11):
says the pay per view cost of the Mayweather McGregor
fights will be dog If you want to watch it
in standard deaf, it's ten bucks cheaper. Why would anybody
watch something why why why would you do that? You're like, wait,
you got to be a square. I why would anybody
do that? You are officially you are the guy who

(38:34):
pulls apart the two ply toilet paper. If you're that cheap,
that was Scott lead Sack. I mean, how cheap do
you need to be to go? Like, honey, we're gonna
get good good news. Well, good news are bad news.
She's like, I want the good news first, then the
bad news. Okay, honey, we're getting the fight and fight
your friends over. Oh that's amazing. Okay, sweetheart, what is

(38:57):
the bad news? You know? I I just feel like
this thing might be over quickly. So I'm gonna get
in Standard Deaf. We need to save ten dollars because yeah,
I want to know how many Standard Deaf buys that are.
That's the number I need to know. David Griffin removes
himself from the next job. Is he hopping off the

(39:19):
Titanic just before the iceberg hits? Find out next in
the Doug Gottlieb Show only on Fox Sports Radio. What Up?
It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's funny because
Dan Buyer would and I were just having this conversation
on air. The New York Knicks are well the New
York Knicks and management is a problem, so they tried

(39:42):
they tried to hire David Griffin. David Griffin, of course,
was fired as the general manager of the Cleveland Cavaliers
or his contract was not renewed with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
And so apparently David Griffin pulled out of of the
New York Knicks job, uh near Nick's GM job opening,

(40:05):
because he wasn't able to get enough power. You don't
know the power of the dark side, which I the
meat to me, strikes me as very very interesting. Right now.
We all carry our inherent biases based upon our previous experiences, right.

(40:26):
It happens with relationships. Some people are related. I have
friends with that, like I'm their relationship people they're married.
I've been married seventeen years. But my high school girlfriend
I went out with for the better part of three
years in high school, in a couple of years kind
of off and on and off again in college. Right,
and there's some queening that I met my wife like

(40:49):
I'm kind of a relationship guy. It's kind of how
the Gottlieb Show here on Sports radio. I'm Dan Buyer
at our Fox Sports Radio studios in Los Angeles. As
Doug was just talking about the New York Knicks and
David Griffin unable to reach an agreement to allow Griffin

(41:11):
to be the team's general manager, and now the Knicks
continue to look for some front office leadership even through
this free agency period. Doug, as, I think what you
were you were getting at? Yes, I was. Look. My
thing is like, Dan, so you just got married, right, Yes?
Yes I did? Okay, um a, were you a relationship guy? Uh?

(41:33):
Were your relationship guy previous to this long relationship? So much? No,
not so much? Just a man about town? Yeah, well
just I I didn't date a lot. Let's put it
that way. It wasn't that I was doing. Like. Lisa
is awesome, she's beautiful, she's totally got her stuff together,
which leads all of us to believe, what did she

(41:54):
see in David. I'm still wondering. No, she's she's she's
a cool lady. Like she's like he's a cool lady.
Like that's that's good, that'll that'll work. Um. My point is,
like I think it would be fair to say, like,
as you kind of grow and evolve in your marriage.
You'll carry the bias of I don't know bias, and
bias comes across that nigative. You'll carry kind of the

(42:15):
background of a guy who has been uh, who has
dated some but it hasn't been in long term relationships.
So there are some ebbs and flows to relationships, some
things that you have you shouldn't, you know if you
were in a bunch of relationships that you don't know. Right.
I bring that up because the Nicks and David Griffin, Like,
David Griffin comes from Cleveland where he did not have

(42:36):
complete and autonomous power. Right, you had the owner who
was who had power. You had Lebron James who had power,
and you had David Griffin who has left to kind
of clean up the mess. And even in cleaning up
the mess, it's like, Okay, we want you to sign
Tristan Thompson. Great. I think he's worth X. They think
he's worth Why who's the rapped by Rich Paul? Who's

(42:59):
Rich Paul's better friend Lebron James. Lebron James wants him signed?
The boy right, I mean j R. Smith is a
free agent. Last year they overpaid. So the point is
this like he didn't get them, Lebron, he didn't get them, Kyrie.
He did the best he could. But he carries the

(43:21):
I'm gonna say bias. He carries the he has a
history of dealing with an owner who meddled and didn't
get along with the star who meddled, and an agent
who reps your star and reps several of your other players,
which puts use it in a in a completely uncomfortable
situation of trying to kind of pacify the world's greatest

(43:44):
player and satisfy the owner who's your boss, and try
and build a great team, right, Like that's really hard
to do, isn't it. You're like, oh, I never really
thought of it that way. And then you have the
New York Knicks, who, as much as you can say like, hey,
look you're in the York Kicks. You don't know what

(44:05):
you're doing. Just turn the thing over to David Griffin
and be done with it. Well, what got the Knicks
in this in this predicament? From their perspective? To begin with,
Phil Jackson had complete and autonomous power, total power. And
so when you when you walk into a place to

(44:26):
which you're like, you know what I really want to
have final say on roster, on salary cap. Those don't
sound like unreasonable expectations. But if you're the New York Knicks,
you're like, look, we just gave Phil Jackson, who want
eleven NBA championships, complete freedom to hire who he wanted,
top down coach, general manager, vice president, scouts, do whatever

(44:50):
the hell you want. Just take the Knicks and here's
the money, and go win. And it didn't work. And
so David Griffin's what what most most of American reacts like, Oh,
the next really screwed up a different and maybe they did,
maybe they did, or maybe they just um, maybe they

(45:12):
just uh are trying to not make the same mistake twice,
And David Griffin is trying to not take the same
job twice. It's possible, right, I mean, look what happens
in coaching, right, All coaches are all coaching. Have you

(45:34):
hire the opposite of the guy who was there before.
If you have an offensive guy, you are a defensive guy.
If you have a young coach, the next coach is
an old coach. If you have a disciplinary in the
next guych just like ah. But when you're successful, you
find your types, right, You find your types. That's the

(45:56):
same in relationships, like, I know my type music, what's
your type? What's you're like your your girlfriend? Just she's
back now from Europe. All good. She's not going on
any other trips without you? Is she the summer that
is not going to happen anymore? Okay, it's she's not
allowed to go to Europe. She got fired. No, she

(46:16):
just won't be going to Europe anymore without me. It's
what I've been told reports, early reports. She will not
be going to Europe without you. That. Yeah, that's what
she she's told me. But that's unconfirmed so far. Only
one source. She's the only source on that, but she's
she's a source. Um, your girlfriend. Describe your girlfriend without

(46:37):
sounding like somebody who's perverted. Very attracted to her. She's
incredibly positive, which is good for me because that can
be a little bit more of a pessimist about things. Um,
she's always outgoing and likes to have Oh what does
she look like? She's blonde, fair skinned, with light eyes,

(46:58):
probably about four mm hmm. Is that your type? Yeah,
i'd say so. Actually, have you dated any other five
ft four blonde, fair skinned you know about that size?
About that that fitness level, Like is that the other
other her her body, her height and her body type. Yes,

(47:22):
but not necessarily blonde hair, blue eyes. Huh, So it's
more body type like she's what fits, she's petite, fair
that which is fair like my my type as well, right,
which is you know, my wife is I think five
six and she's she's petite, and she's like slender and

(47:45):
she's relatively like normal looking like some people like really
pronounced features right, and then type like right. Some people
like like some dudes like you know I like and
I've never dated women of all different mostly different different races, um,
but like some like like black girls, I would like light,

(48:06):
skinner girls. I like Asian girls. I'm like some people
find their type when you haven't yet when when you're
usually when you break up with a girl, sometimes you
go to the next the same type it. Sometimes you
go to the exact opposite, right, like she's short, I'm
going tall next time. That's what happens to coaching jobs.
And I think David Griffin believes he knows what his

(48:27):
type is, and the Nicks are they're so bewildered by
the fact that they've had from Larry Brown, and Isaiah
Thomas and and Donnie Um, Donnie Walsh and all these
different people come in and not able to turn the
thing around. They're like, look, last time we gave Footville
Jackson total power, why would we give David Griffin total power?
He didn't even have that in Cleveland. It's not as

(48:50):
crazy you would think. The problem is if he doesn't
have power, who does Who does one too? Sorry? Eight
seven Fox um. Rick Buker is gonna join us up
coming next. I'm interested to hear his thoughts on the Knicks,

(49:12):
on why David Griffin turned the job, or if he
turned the job down or just kind of backed away
from the job um and what he saw so far
in Summer League feels like kind of Danny Angels right.
It feels like Darren Fox might be a little bit
further along um than a Lonzo Ball, but it does
feel like there is a a Lonzo ball buzz that

(49:34):
is tangible. We'll catch up with buke next on The
Doug Godlip Show, broadcasting live from the studios of Fox
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as other sports on his own radio show. Hey look,
we're part of the serious XM family of radio shows.
So his is eighty two ours this channel eight three.
At least the first two hours of our show. You
can hear his a little bit later on uh muke

(50:19):
Your biggest takeaway? Your biggest takeaway from Summer League as
what so far that the hype of the NBA and
just as a product is something that people are interested in,
is growing by leaps and bounds. With seeing seventeen and
a half thousand people here to watch a Summer League

(50:41):
game on a Friday afternoon or a Saturday in the
middle of the summer in Las Vegas is is just extraordinary.
It Uh, this thing continues to expand, and it's only
a matter of time before somehow they're gonna find some
way that there is NBA act of the NBA action
going on year round. The combination of the transactions, the

(51:04):
interest in the free agents and the deals and the
stars that are coming in. It's just it's an extraordinary time.
I know I probably sounds like a shill for the NBA,
and I don't. I don't mean to be that, but
I'm just looking at the numbers. I'm looking at the crowds,
and it's it's a pain in the ask for people
like me who try to get something done here and

(51:25):
have meaningful conversations. But when it comes to the business
of the n B, A uh whatever. Do you think
about the money that players are making and whether it's outrageous,
it is backed up by the amount of attention that
the league is receiving because of those players. You know
what it is? I mean, like, I think it's a
byproduct of many things. You know. Some of it is

(51:47):
there's always been this void in the summer and all
Star games, any all Star games that they don't register
nearly as much anymore, baseball stro games especially maybe, But
I also think it's a byproduct of the summer has
always been about basketball in Las Vegas, and all of
these players grew up in the beginnings of the A
or or in the middle of the AU generation, and

(52:08):
so summer basketball has always been big. There's always been
hoop heads, and now it's just hoop heads on steroids.
Because you put the hoop heads together with people who
love the NBA and you have all this free agency
movement and you have some of these young players you
want to see him. I think it's all kind of culminant.
And TV has gotten behind as well. It's made it
kind of a bigger thing. Yeah, No, I think that's
I think that's exactly right. You had the Rucker Park Games,

(52:30):
you had the part, you had the game, the the
Drew League, you had Summer League, uh, the pro ams that,
but you didn't have TV and it still didn't have
the stamp of authenticity that uh, that that you would want.
Now I think you're exactly right. The now Summer League

(52:53):
basketball has the stamp of NBA authenticity. Uh. You're getting
the biggest names here, and not only just the biggest
names playing, but the biggest names are sitting courtside and
doing business deals while they're here. Every team getting ahold
of executives and talking to people with teams. It used
to be, you know, you could have Launch, you have Breakfast.

(53:14):
Now the other owners and their entire front office staff
are here and they're conducting uh team business while they're
in Vegas, and so, uh, it is it is all
those things. And you're right though, it is that combination
Rick Buker joining us and Bleacher Report, Doug Gotlip Show
Fox Sports Radio. You mentioned the money that players are making. Obviously, Uh,

(53:38):
that brings us around to James Harden based upon the
salary cap, he can he can make this amount of money,
But does it bode well for like and I get
that you kind of get paid for the regular season
he's dominant, but he was he was bad in the postseason.
At the argument in the postseason was, well, we didn't
end up people around him. How are they going to
put the people around him during those four years if
he's making all that money? Yeah, No, it's a it's

(54:01):
a it's a fair question. Uh. As far as what
their flexibility is, uh, A lot of that obviously, a
lot of this is going to depend on, you know,
where does the cap go from here? Uh. A lot
of people, as a result of the cap going up
last year, were of the mind. I think a lot
of players, Uh, some agents where of the mind that

(54:21):
you know that that the bread truck or bread truck.
It pulled in, it was open for business and everybody
was going to get loaves from here to eternity. And
while there have been some guys who gotten paid this summer,
there's also been a harsh, harsh reckoning. And but we
go through this every time. I mean, the fact is, yeah,

(54:41):
that's going that that could be an issue to three
years from now. I just look at everybody in the
n b A and they're not looking on timelines. But
that's that's a long timeline to be looking three years
down the line. You could say in a way that
the Golden State Warriors are doing the same thing that
they are loading up now. Uh And with the idea

(55:05):
that they're going all out because with the signing of
Nick Young and some of the other pieces the you know,
you're can I keep a Patrick McCaw long term? Ian
Clark is out there like they're they're sacrificing some of
their young talent already to sign veterans to go for it. Now,
where is that going to leave them? Uh? In in

(55:25):
two years when they're capped out and you just have
one bad injury, what's going to be their ability to
to to change their dynamic? Uh? There. Nobody's looking at
that because the Warriors are in a sweet spot right now,
more so than the Rockets, but they're they're kind of
working in the same direction. Rick Bucker joining us on
the Doug Gottlib Show Fox Sports Radio, What about the

(55:50):
Boston Celtics. I feel like had we spoken and we
I know we did talk on air about a week
week and a half ago. There was skepticism around the NBA, like,
you know, Paul George, why didn't they p pony up
for Paul George. Now you look at it and you're like, wait,
Jason Tatum has been every bit as good as advertised.
Jalen Brown h might have might have a chance to

(56:11):
grow into a legitimate starter. They got Gordon Hayward, and
now they traded for Marcus Morrise. They've they've changed that
rosters substantially without overpaying for Paul George, who they probably
only have for a year. Does Danny Ainge end up
winning in the end from the argument that he lost
not getting Paul George, No, I don't think he does

(56:33):
because for all of the pieces that he's at it. Uh,
first of all, you you did have to to sacrifice
a few It's not as if you've got Gordon Hayward
free and clear, Uh, you do lose in Avery Bradley,
do lose Uh, Kelly olynk And I know that Kelly
getting paid fifty million off of basically one good playoff
game is uh has raised some eyebrows here. But ultimately,

(56:58):
you know, the one thing at the that the Celtics
needed was a guy taller than five eight who could
go and get his own basket with the game on
the line, and they still don't have that. Gordon Hayward
is not that kind of a player. Uh. You know,
Marcus Morris certainly not. Um so I uh. And Jayson

(57:20):
Tatum you're playing with Isaiah Thomas, Gordon Hayward, and Jalen
Brown is in the pecking order ahead of you. So uh,
seeing what he's doing in Summer League and dominating if
you're going to have as many touches is going to
be is he gonna have is? Is he gonna have
the matchups? Here're gonna have the opportunities here? I don't

(57:43):
see that guy who next year can be that guy
who can go win you a a playoff game by himself,
And that's what the Celtics needed. That was the one
element that they were missing. And so I don't I
don't see as a victory. And honestly, the idea that
you would sacrifice a couple of first round picks, a

(58:06):
future and uh and a present one to get Paul George,
even if it was on a rental. Uh. Danny Aines
had ten going into this draft. He had ten first
round picks in the last five years. Marcus Smart was
the best of them. At some point, you need to
you can have all those picks, you can't keep all
those young players. They needed to parlay some of that

(58:29):
into a player that was going to be a difference maker.
They still don't have that difference maker, and they still
have all those picks. So I don't see it as
a victory for Danny just yet. Rick Bucker joining us
Buke helped me out. Is there any way to save
the New York Dicks? Uh? Yeah, well well, uh, if

(58:52):
James Dolan sells the team, ultimately it starts at the
top once. Like his thing is he's actually like washed
his hands of meddling, right, that was his whole thing
with Philip Jackson. Like here I gave it to phil Jackson,
I said, do with it I gave to do with
it as you will. Now. I don't know how much
he pressured him to re shining Carmelo Anthony that we

(59:14):
may never know, um initially, but but with that and
that actually I think is a big thing. But but
the point is he did let Phil Jackson run it
a monk running into the ground. It wasn't his fault.
So I guess the question we can go ahead, But ultimately,
ultimately it is he hired Phil Jackson and he gave

(59:35):
him that free hand. And at some point you can
you can say I'm not going to meddle, but you
pay attention and if if there are things being done
that they're meddling, and keeping people honest, asking questions are
are two different? Are two different things? Having is giving

(59:55):
giving direction, giving orders and uh and making sure that
this guy deserves the free reign that you're giving him.
That I believe is where Dolan advocated his responsibility. And
ultimately it comes down to, is he he's still got

(01:00:16):
to hire the next guy. He still has to oversee
whoever comes in and and and what kind of staff
they put together. So uh, he's demonstrated no ability to
to do that to choose wisely as to who he
hands the the keys over to, so ultimately it still
resides with him, and I just don't I don't have
any confidence at this point based on who he is,

(01:00:38):
how he's conducted his general business, that anything is going
to change. So who eventually takes that job? It's a
good question, I it. Uh. Look, I know that Griff
wanted David Griffin wanted to do it. I would have
liked to have doing it done it. Wanted to jump
back in a couple of pieces there it uh that

(01:01:01):
he could work around the bar is set low. The
fact that they couldn't come to terms with him. I
don't know who goes in there and that that I
have confidence in, and I haven't, honestly here being in Vegas.
While it's not the first question that I've been asking
people and talking to them, I have not heard. There

(01:01:22):
have been no names volunteered. There's been no talk about
who specifically would walk in there and uh and take
that job and do it. But ultimately where they are
and uh, with Dolan running it, it's it's you just
had David Griffin, who who could have come in and

(01:01:42):
been a part of that, and you found a way
to to muck that up. So my confidence that they're
going to find somebody and that they're gonna do it
right is somewhat low right now. Last thing, I love
Mark Cuban, but this narrative that they wouldn't be rebuilding
if they were in the East. I mean, has he
not paid attention to his roster and how many broken
down pieces he's brought in that hasn't worked out? Yeah?

(01:02:05):
You know what's interesting with that is watching Dennis Smith Jr.
Who Mark is very high on and who has certainly
impressed people with what he's done here. Um. The the
the interesting aspect is that that gets built to play
fast and everybody's thinking and Mark is thinking, I I
got a real player here, and I'm and I'm looking

(01:02:27):
at it and I'm thinking, okay, but he doesn't fit
your roster right now? Uh? And so how good is
this going to be? Look? Marks a great salesman. Mark
says he's been out front being here, has been very visible.
He said a lot of provocative things. I think that's
just one more provocative thing that he said, not necessarily

(01:02:49):
that it would be reality if indeed they were in
the Eastern Conference. Rick Buker. You can hear him on
Linch your Board radio of course on XM serious channel
eighty two. You can read his work and Bleach Report,
or just follow him on Twitter as his travels have
taken into Las Vegas to cover the NBA Summer League,
which everybody is paying attention to. The last thing you

(01:03:10):
can let me, couldn't let you go with and ask
you Alonzo ball Ye? Will he live up to the hype?
You can't. There's no way. What excuding me? His jersey
is already supposed to be retired. He's already supposed to
be an all time Laker. He's already supposed to be
better than Jordan's and stuff. And my only hope is
is that the where the bar has been set does

(01:03:31):
not end up being an anvil that crushes him. Because
the kid is gonna be fine. He's gonna be a
good player. He uh you know, he makes early passes. Uh. No,
people that talked to when it comes to the three
point shot, okays two for sixteen, they wouldn't mess with it.

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Right now, there's a lot of good things about the kid.
Is he going to be a Hall of Famer, It's
going to be the greatest point guard ever. No, no,
he's not. I can I can confidently say that's not
going to happen. But uh, you know, can he can
he be a good effective player? Could he one day
be an All star point guard? Yeah? He has that

(01:04:12):
possibility that. The thing that I worry about is that
the pressure and the expectation are so immense that normally,
you say, you know, being the number one pick, that's
where all the pressure is, and that comes with a weight.
Being number two, it should have been he escaped that,

(01:04:33):
but thanks to LaVar, thanks to magic. Uh they it
feels to me as if he has more pressure on
him than Marquelle Foltz does and LaVar and Alonzo is
the number two pick. Great stuff, Buke, thanks so much
for joining us. You gotta took all right. That's Rick
Buker from Bleacher Reports, Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Alonzo,

(01:04:56):
by the way, he's going to sit out tonight with
a sore groin. You play three, you know, three nights
in row at that level and you know, sword groin
is hey, just we want to sit and me got
a triple double. Let's let that marinate for a while.
How do what did uh? What do Eli Manning and
Lebron James have in common. Doug got Lip show Fox

(01:05:17):
Sports Radio. So Good Morning Football is a show on
the NFL network and Damien Harrison was on it. Um uh,
Damian Harrison. Harrison was on it from the New York Giants,
and he had an interesting comparison between two people who

(01:05:40):
often get compared right off and get compared like I
get compared with people all the time. I actually think
this is funny. So I've heard people they're like, well,
you know your your shell. You're like you think, what
do you think you're Kell and Calherd like, well, I
actually don't think I'm calling My style is different than Collins.
But if you're gonna compare me to somebody who I

(01:06:01):
think has probably the best national sports radio show in
the country, then thank you very much, right Or like
you know, you think they're trying to be clever with
your interviews, like what do you think you're Dan Patrick?
Like you know what if I could be Dan Patrick,
that's cool with me, And that's cool with me. I
mean people compare me all the time music. You know,
they're like I was walking down street and Drew something

(01:06:22):
like is that George Clooney. No, that's Doug got there.
It happens quite often you couldn't pick someone at least
remotely close like you had to go George Clooney. Um,
I've gotten well. When Aaron Rodgers was drafted, every watch
was drafted, everybody said we looked alike. Now Aaron Rodgers

(01:06:45):
um has has surpassed me. Money has been good, his
hair is better than mine as well, and we've hung
out once or twice and nobody thought we'd looked alike.
When we do, we look like we could be maybe
brothers from other others that we can maybe be brothers,
but more probably more cousins than anything. We just we're
two white guys. He's a little bit taller. Uh you know,

(01:07:08):
he has a slightly better arm than I have. That's
about it. Anyway, I've heard Aaron Rodgers when I was
a kid, who was a kid who played Josh Basking
and uh big you rather only big ras P Yes, okay,
the kid the kid in Big that was Um, that

(01:07:34):
was that was what people said I look like. So anyway,
I bring that up because you know, like comparing incomparables
me and George Clooney is a lot like what Damian
Harrison did on Good Morning Football. Take a listen. When
you look at Eli, it's kind of like when you
look at Lebron. I'm not saying that the same, but
look at Eli's numbers. Any other quarterback would have those numbers.

(01:07:57):
It would be an amazing year, but it would be
an Eli. Nobody is respecting it as much as would
do Lebron Lebron and every thirty rebounds and toyl assist
and it's a lot. He didn't do nothing right. I
don't know what to do. Yeah, So what he's saying
is like, you're gonna miss me when I'm gone, Right,
You're gonna you're gonna miss You're gonna miss old Eli

(01:08:19):
when he's gone. You don't appreciate how good Eli Manning
has been, which I do think there's some there's there,
there's something to that. I also think that there's the
truth about Eli is like he's good has He's never
been the best quarterback in the National Football LA. There's
not anybody I know who could make the argument of,
you know, Eli Manning is the best quarterback in this Like,

(01:08:40):
nobody makes that argument. It does not actually exist. So
that's kind of the first thing. The second thing is, um,
I think there is a parallel there in some of
the that He's had bad lines, he's had bad schemes,
he's had wide receivers to get hurt, had drops, he's

(01:09:02):
had bad defenses. He's had those things. But the difference
is that that Lebron statistically has produced at a greater
level than Eli Manning has and Lebron hasn't. Remember you
go back to tow you a couple of years ago
when Tom Coughlin got fired, it was Eli Manning, who ah,

(01:09:23):
who screwed up a couple of the games late, especially
the Dallas Cowboys game late, and that's why they lost.
So I just I think it's too much of reach.
I understand what Damien Harrison saying. He's like, look, he's
really really good, and Lebron James is great, and Lebron
James gets taken for granted. Eli Mannings maybe not Lebron James,
but he's still a great player and he gets taken

(01:09:44):
for granted. I think sometimes great players get taken for
vantage instead. There's the comparison there, Like you mentioned, Lebron,
I don't know. I don't know. I have never ever
won snore. Do I know anybody alive who has said
he know who? You know who? Eli Manning reminds me of?

(01:10:05):
He reminds me of you know, he reminds me of
Lebron James and then does never happened, not one time,
not a single solitary time. Um, we'll play what did
the Fox say? Up coming next? Aaron, Aaron Rodriguez, Aaron

(01:10:26):
What I say? Aaron? I'm sorry? Alex Rodriguez on Aaron
Judge and who Aaron Judge reminds a Rod of? Plus
Skip has some thoughts on James Harden's new contract. I'm
interested to hear what those are. Next time the dug
out Lip Show, What True Card? You can find out
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(01:10:47):
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dug out Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Uh Timmy uh
tweets the show at Gottlieb Show. Eli will always be
underrated because he was never the best Manning period. Unfair.

(01:11:07):
Perhaps it's true that it's a great way to it's
the you know, every family has a chosen child. They
just do alright, they just do. How many kids in
your family? Music? There are three? Okay, brothers, sisters, older, younger?
What he got I'm the youngest, and so I have
an older brother than the eldest. Is my sister? All right?

(01:11:29):
And who's the chosen child? Oh me, for sure. I
don't mean who's the most, like like, who has the
most who has a little bit more talent than the
rest of them? Um, I would say me, I was
a little bit more athletic than the rest of my family.
And let me just tell you me, Ramos, what do

(01:11:49):
you think about the ego maniac? You're sitting next to
all these that's some pretty positive stuff going on right there. Man,
just like me. Hey, at least is honest, right, it's
the beginning. Yeah? Well, um yeah, so mine, that's okay, Romos.
How many kids in your family? There are five of them?
Five children, so older, younger, Like, what's your what's your

(01:12:14):
sibling range? I'm the youngest of five, you're the youngest
of five. Who is the chosen one? The chosen one
would be they everyone says, it's me. See, we're all
the babies of our family, right right. Um, So I
think it's interesting which by the way, I believe Eli

(01:12:34):
is in fact the youngest of the crew, right, but
he's not the Peyton is the She's the chosen child,
right like he's the heir to the throne for the
first Family of Football. And I actually think that's a
that's a probably a u at Timmy. I actually think

(01:12:55):
that's a very smart way of putting it, like it
had had had that been the way put like, Look,
we're always going to underrate Eli Manning because we compare
him to Peyton Manning, and that's unfair. Well that's smart,
I know. Yeah, by the way, or we're always gonna
underrate him because I think that's the that's the best one.

(01:13:18):
It's the best one in any other family. He's the
greatest athlete that family has ever had. In the Manning family,
he's at best second. He's at best second. Poor Cooper, Cooper.
Let's play what did the Fox said? The Fox say?
We bring back one of the great quotes and comments

(01:13:40):
from the day on Fox Sports Radio. Earlier today on
The Undisputed, which of course is hosted by Joey Taylor
alongside Skip Bayliss and Shannon Sharp. Skip had this to
say about James Harden's contract. I believe that the Rockets
just attempted to buy James Harden's happiness, so to seek

(01:14:01):
ultimately it ultimately will not work because the truth is
cold heart facts. If you really look at what just happened.
James Harden got demoted from the point guard position, and
he couldn't publicly defend himself because he was over the
game six barrel, because he lost his leverage, because he

(01:14:23):
had such a nightmarriage game against my Spurs. Murder wound
up at home one fourteen to seventy five. He had
ten points and went too for eleven from the field,
two for nine from three, fouled out of the game,
looked like he was disengaged and ultimately disinterested in the
game and the Rocket fans Rocket Nation obviously not happy

(01:14:44):
with James Harden, and all of a sudden, Darryl Morey
took that opening to run right through it and go
get Chris Paul. Yeah, I think that's I think it's
he's taken in a step too far. Do I think
they bought his loyalty? Of worse, It's the only way
to get guys to stay in the NBA is get
ahead of it. Offer the biggest contract extents you can

(01:15:06):
and James Harden's loyalties should be rewarded or his place
should be. He's been great, uh two of the past
three seasons. He probably should have been the m v
P Steph Curry, not this year. The year previous year
when he was the um unanimous m VP, he was
the MVP that year. The year before that was James
should have been James Harden. This year probably should have
been James Harden as well, because his team won more

(01:15:29):
games and he was as responsible for his team winning
more games as anybody. On the other hand, on the
other hand, while you get paid for the regular season,
your legacy is based upon the postseason. And if the
argument for James Harden was I just didn't have the
guys around me. It's nice to add Chris Paul, but
he's getting into his mid thirties, and you know, with

(01:15:53):
the money that the two of them make, and if
you want to keep Chris Paul at the end of
this year, you're not gonna be able to feel the
team around you. So I don't know. I think Skip
takes it a step further than reality would actually be.
Alex Rodriguez was on with Colin with with Colin Coward

(01:16:17):
right and a Rod Live from the All Star Game,
and Alex had this to say about who Aaron Judge
reminds him of. Here's a guy, Colin that I'm so
excited for. For the first time in a long time,
we have a Lebron James type of personality and size
that can transcend sports. Here's a guy who's six ft

(01:16:37):
seven two and seventy five pounds nine body fat, thirty
two vertical. The guy bench presses four h pounds, squads
five pounds, and and he's He's an amazing figure. I mean,
and for the next generation to say, well, there's a
guy that could be a tight end and an All
Pro and he chose baseball. Why can't I? And hopefully
the kids are taking notes of Aaron Judge. I mean,

(01:17:01):
I what this says to me, This is one of
It's one of the things that says to me that
I do think that dominant athletes can dominate baseball. I'm
always thought that that one of the reasons that steroids
like Barry Bonds was a dominant athlete who took who
took steroids, and that's why he went from an m

(01:17:22):
v P and a Hall of Famer to the greatest
home run here we had ever seen late in his career.
And and one of the things that probably lad that
people that led Barry Bonds to doing this was look
what Sammy so said Mark mcguires, especially Sammy Sosa, who
was a middling player and became a great home run hitter.
The point is that a lot of baseball players are

(01:17:44):
just baseball players and aren't big enough, aren't strong enough,
aren't athletic enough. If you put a legit dude out there,
like Aaron Judge, legit dude who could play at least
two sports, look at how he dominates. This also helps
my argument about soccer right, not that Aaron Judge could
play soccer, but the argument about baseball. Like if you're

(01:18:07):
Mike Trott's great athlete, Bryce Harper is a great athlete,
like those guys great athletes that in other sports that
are also really good that have become great baseball players.
It's the same thing about soccer. We will as a
country when our athletic aeron judges right, when our defensive
backs wide receivers when they play soccer, that's when we'll

(01:18:29):
take that next step. And that's what the Fox said. Say,
Ramos is so busy calling out times and screwing it up.
Tell me three minutes and two minutes in one minute?
Sooe a two minutes. Mark Cuban is out of his mind.

(01:18:49):
Brilliant but out of his mind? Why find out? Next
to the Doug Gollip Show, What upen to Duck Gotleep Show?
Fox Sports Radio? Still coming to you alive from Jerusalem,
Israel I promise I will return state side sometime very
very early, very early next week. We got so much

(01:19:12):
to get to, man, so much to get to. I
want to give you my thoughts on the Boston Celtics,
my thoughts on the All Star Game, All Star weekend.
We're also weak right the deadist era yet deadnist time
in sports. Be with you most of this week, not
taking time off when others do. Cowards live in Miami
right all throughout the All Star Game. So we'll be

(01:19:35):
with you here. You know, um, I like Mark Cuban.
We'll have We haven't had cubes on this show yet,
but if you do, if your name drop him, if
you use my name music and Cindy, who books this show,
we can get Cuban. He's he's the best. There's a

(01:19:56):
specific way in which you book Cuban, and you have
to book him directly. We can get him, and like
Cuban is, he's great, Like when he says things that
he truly believes and it comes from an honest place.
It doesn't come, for the most part, from a place
in which he's trying to, you know, be a fire starter.

(01:20:19):
It's like it's one of the things I like best
about Clay Travis's show. Clay Travis is in the morning
on Box Sports Radio, and I don't think like Clay
has found his way into several controversies in the last
couple of months right and starting his show, But I
don't think he wakes up in the morning going what
controversies can I start today? The controversies organically come to him.

(01:20:43):
His personality comes out. Our bosses at Fox Sports Radio
empower him and he takes it from there. Like for example,
there was you remember the protests at Missouri UM over
some alleged racial incidents which caused massive protests and the
resignation of several of not almost all, of the board

(01:21:06):
of curators, which is, you know, a board of trustees
for the entire University of Missouri system, whether they're freshman
enrollment the past years since those protests have been way
way down, like it's a disaster of epic proportions. And
so I know Clayton had and that was that there
was a New York Times piece which is kind of
took a look back, although it didn't maybe dive enough

(01:21:28):
into whether or not, like there's there's a big drop
off in African American students, but African American students on
the make ten ten percent up of the student body
prior to the protests, whereas the greatest percentage of students
are white students. And though I don't know it's like
four or six percent, but four or six percent drop
off in enrollment, when that's like eight of your enrollment,

(01:21:53):
it's a big number of people. And what happened was
that the protests caused some incoming black students to feel
like they were uncomfortable, and a lot of white students
be like, look, I don't want to go there. Won't
be called a racist now. I saw Missouri as a
racist school before, but I don't want to be seen
as a racist. And that the the the protests end

(01:22:14):
up doing as much or more harm than they do
good anyway. My point is that that kind of thing
kind of hit fit right into Clay's wheelhouse, right. It's
just who he is. This is who Mark Cuban is.
Mark Mark Cuban was on NBA TV broadcast and among

(01:22:35):
the things he said, huh among the things he said.
Among the things he said were that if they were
in the Eastern Conference, they wouldn't be rebuilding. You know.
Cuban also said about Um that when they drafted Dennis Smith,

(01:22:59):
he spoke to him about coming through an archive of
Dennis Smith's tweets. He said, quote, you know, one of
the first things after we drafted Dennis and I'm talking
to him on the phone, I'm like, dude, I went
through your Twitter account. It's time to get on their
and delete. And so he went through it, and to
his credit, hey, there they were gone. He had a

(01:23:22):
lot of stupid stuff out there. Um. The most notable
one was when he was fourteen years old. It was
pretty funny. It was pretty funny. But the biggest part
that he said was that that the Warriors were the
reason for the MAVs rebuild and that if they were

(01:23:44):
in the Eastern Conference it would be completely different. And
while there's some validity to the fact that the Warriors
are so good, so good, we're rebuilding, right, he said,
there's no question about it. If we were in the East,
we would not be rebuilding. We'd be handling things completely different.
I think I'm going to kidnap ad him silver and

(01:24:05):
not let him out until he moves us to the
Eastern Conference. Giving where we are, given where the Warriors are,
what's happening in the Western Conference, it's kind of sealed
what we have to. Look. The Dallas Mavericks are coming
off a thirty three and forty nine season, and he
admitted to me months ago. He admitted to Dan Patrick

(01:24:26):
on his show that they wanted to lose games. They
played young players. But let's not act like they were
really really close before they started having injuries and decided
to dump the season. Let's not act like last year
they were close. Dirk Davitski has taken less than they've
tried to surround him with more. But none of the
pieces have ever worked out, and they haven't gotten out

(01:24:48):
in the first round. They haven't been players in this thing.
They just haven't. And they're not players in the Eastern Conference.
They're not players in the Western Conference. I love Dirk Navitzy.
I love him. Who doesn't like Dirk Like he's one
of the most likable superstars in the history of the NBA,

(01:25:11):
no question about um. But drk Navitski was born two
years after me. That makes him thirty nine years old.
Like he's over the hill. It takes him two hours
of physical therapy just to get him ready to play
every night. And I even play every night. You know,

(01:25:35):
he's been doing a long long time. But like you ever,
four TDA game last year playing twenty six minutes UM,
and he played in fifty four games. So Cuban can
just can say all he wants. Hey, if we were

(01:25:56):
in the Eastern Conference, we're If you're in the Eastern Conference,
you would suck in the Eastern Conference, just like you
suck in the Western Conference. Mark Cuban is a lot
of things, but because of how they've rebuilt, he took
a lot of chances. He got Wes Matthews who was
straight off, and Achilles Tenant tear. They went and they

(01:26:17):
tried to get Darren Williams. Oh you know what Darren
will is We can fix Darren Williams ankles well guess
what Darren Williams is over there hill Harrison Barnes is.
I think Harrison Barnes is one of those guys that
went from overpaid to probably maybe a little bit under rating.
He's a good player, but West Matthews, often Achilles, Dirk

(01:26:39):
Navitski who's thirty nine years old, and Harrison Barnes, who
on a great team is a really good fifth starter,
is considered probably their best player. Like, it doesn't matter
what division you're in, you weren't going to win. It
doesn't matter. All right. So, um, guys, I got some

(01:27:04):
Jerusalem updates for you. Our our team is two and
oh but I have one technical foul? Do you want
to hear? What's okay? Did you throw a ball at
the heads ref like Jamar de Rosen. I didn't, but
I actually got a I got a ball in the
face last night during the game. Yeah, okay, So here's

(01:27:29):
what happens. We were playing the French team. Uh this
for people are just catching up stud gotlip show, Fox
Sports Radio, welcome in on the I Heart Apper any
of our hundreds and more growing affiliates. Um, so the
French team is this is like the Jewish Olympics and
we represent the United States. So the French team was

(01:27:50):
supposed to be the best team and they probably still
will probably play them in the championship game. They maybe
still are UM. And so we played them last night
and among another things, first we beat them. We were
up as much as and we won by I think
nineteen points. At the end of the game, we played

(01:28:10):
small ball. We went to our death lineup and made
them chase us all over the court just like you know,
Golden State Warrior style, and we end up winning the game.
So I think it was in the first I was
in the first half UM one of our better players,
get him, Spencer Whites, who's the IVY League Player of
the Year at Princeton UM. He grabbed a loose ball

(01:28:31):
and he tried to throw it to a teammate, and
I'm like, the way I coaches, I was on like
one knee, like on the sideline, right near the sideline
itself in the coaching box, and I'm kind of I
don't know, three steps from him or two steps from
as he's right by the sideline being double teamed. He
tried to kind of hook pass around his guy and

(01:28:53):
he threw it right to my face. So in the
first I got caught and and you know, it obviously hurt.
But I a big nose anyway, so it's not that
big a deal. It's been broken before. I don't think
I broke it, and I wasn't concussed. So I stood
up and the revs that are you okay? I said, yeah,
but he got fouled three effing times. Now, technically, if

(01:29:14):
this is like a high school game and you say effing,
then you should get a technical foul, right, but one
in an international games? And I didn't say anything like.
I wasn't like pointing at the REV. It wasn't demeaning
the REV. But I got a technical foul. Ramos, would
you have called a T on me for saying I'm
okay but I got but my player got fouled three
effing times? Did you use the F word itself? Oh?

(01:29:37):
I absolutely absolutely use the F word. I wanted to
teach you up for that. If you would have said
it again to me, I might have teached you, But
the first time I would have let it go. That's
just yourr that's just what I what about you? Music?
I think I thought I think it was kind of
lost in translation, I really do. I think it was

(01:29:58):
lost in translation he heard f word and foul and
um and um. Yeah, So that's what that's what we decided.
Tom Berducci is gonna join us time at the half
past the hour. Half past the hour. But there's something

(01:30:20):
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buying experience. Doug ot Leave Show, Fox Sports Radio. So
Tom Berducci is gonna join us at a half past
the We're trying to figure out what's the matter with
the Cubs, um and and how it can be remedied.
Alcanmy remny disease of me? Right? How many times you

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watched team and at the end of winning a championship,
some you know, some analysts like, well this is a
team you could easily see win four or five championships, right,
Tell me you didn't hear that about the Cubs that
they're all young, Tom Ricketts will spend money. Cubs are
gonna be around for a while. It doesn't mean the
Cubs won't make the playoffs. But this has been a

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disaster of a first half of the season for the
defending champs, who had a couple bad months last year
at the end of the year before. I mean, like, look,
they narrowly escaped, narrowly escaped a beaten up Cleveland team
in the World Series. It took seven games to off them.

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They had a deep bullpend, to which their manager, Joe
Madden chose not to go deep in their bullpen, and
they had some holes in their swings, and they had
some more you know, like look Cleveland, and and it's baseball,
and those things happen. But for Cleveland to force seven
games from last year's Cubs teams that had dominant talent

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in comparison on paper paper like, it's all it's gonna
go down as is. They finally broke the curse of
the buildy Goat. But it wasn't the dominating performance that
should have been, considering the talent gap between the two
teams and experience in the playoffs between the two teams,
and look, good. What Chicago is thrown out there. Let's
let's get to the press, the press, Dan Buyer, what

(01:32:40):
do you got for the press, buddy, Well, let's start
out with Major League Baseball, as it is the Midsummer
Classic coming up tomorrow that you will see on Fox.
Also want to mention this that Aaron Judge of the
Yankees is going to be batting third tomorrow night for
the American League. We also found out the starting pitchers
Max Scherzer goes for the NAT. Chris Sale will end

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up throwing for the American League. Shows are the Nats
going for the National League? Shuts Are today talked about
facing Aaron Judge in that lineup tomorrow. I've seen it
from afar. Obviously, he's been the best hitter over there
in the American League. I enjoy facing the best. It's
what you live for to get a chance to, obviously
in the All Star Game, face the best hitter right
now in the game. Potentially, that's what you look for.

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So it'll be fun. So shuts Are gets the nod
for the NL a L it goes to Chris Sale,
But yeah, the Judge shures Are matchup should be something
to watch tomorrow. And and the Home Run Derby of
course is tonight, which I mean, I mean, like, I
don't know if I'm excited to watch, but I'm I'm
kind of are you like, are you don't you guys
gonna watch it? You guys gonna watch home Wi Yeah,

(01:33:42):
I will, I'll watch Definitely. It does become what you say,
definitely music. Yeah. I mean it's not like there it's
you know, it's the middle of summer. I mean, there's
not a lot else to watch. You don't don't should
at least like like there actually are a lot. That's
That's the one thing is there actually are lots of
things on TV. I don't know. I'm super into the Americans.

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Have you guys seen the show The Americans on the FX?
Really good? Really really really good. Um okay, so here's
my thing about the Home Run Derby. Um, I like
I like watching it in spurts. I like what it's become.
It's kind of become like the Futures Game, right, Like
you have to be young, Like this is not a

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place for an old hitter. I don't think anybody's over
over thirty. Um, you've got John Carlos Stanton, who, of
course won it last year. You got Aaron Judge, Gary
Sanchez Mustak is like twenty eight, Cody Bell Andrew who
joined us last week. Charlie Blackman, who I probably if
not for the Beard, couldn't pick out of a lineup,
Justin Board. I don't know why justin Board's in it

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like other than I guess they needed to Marlin's to
reaffirm that the Marlin's life. And Miguel Santo, who I'm
I'm excited to seeing this thing. Um, I just I
it's it's not quite the Dunk Contest, but does have
a s aura about it like the Dunk Contest does
in baseball, and skewing it younger I think, I think
makes it makes it more worthwhile. It's a great chance

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to talk about how much young talent there is in
this game. Let me throw this one out there as well,
because Bavada we talked about the odds. Now it's even
with Judge in Stanton as being the favorites for the
home run derby tonight, there are odds dug out for
the longest home run in round number one. Aaron Judge
is the favorite at eight to five, Stanton next at

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two to one, and then Charlie Blackman at eleven to
do eleven to two and mcgulsono at six to one.
Judges favorite for the farthest, I would go judge for
the longest. I would go John Carlos Stanton to win it.
He won it last year. He knows how to win
this thing. Let's move on. You know, there's there's there's
one other there's one other part of this thing that
needs to be discussed. What's that Lebron James never entered
a dunk contest and I think that's a huge miss.

(01:35:54):
And um, you know, he can say whatever he wants,
his people can say whatever he wants to say, you know,
like that was Michael's staying. It's not his thing. It
was absolutely his thing when he came to the league,
absolutely his thing in the came in the league and
this idea that you know the only thing that could
have done was he could lose the dunc count like
Jordan never had that mentality. I mean, can you imagine

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if somebody wouldn't wouldn't enter the dunk contest or Steph
Curry wouldn't enter the three point shooting contest. He win
the first couple of years in it. What about non
entering what about not entering a summer league game because
of a sore groying. You touched on this a little
bit earlier. But no Alonzo Ball for the Lakers tonight
against Diaron Fox in the Sacramento Kings. Yes, so Alonzo

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Ball isn't gonna play tonight. Lakers also holding out Kyle
Kuzma and Josh Hart because of injuries. But we're not
gonna see the rematch of that Sweet sixteen showdown because
there will be no Alonzo Ball tonight to face dearon Fox.
That's a bummer. I'm disappointed the Lakers story growing means
he just he's so he's tied, didn't want to They
didn't want to play, doesn't mean he couldn't play. I
think that's weak. I would have wanted to see him

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against Dern Fox, who was spectacular last night. How about
this from earlier, We finally have the final call from
that epic match at Wimbledon. Ducks picking it up. It's
long and Jo's pull off a remark about upset Harold
court number one the world number so rough. That's all

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this said, pucking biggest when in the Korea that was
on Wimbledon Radio when six three six four three six
four six fifteen thirteen as Mueller upset the fourth seeded
Maydal at the All England Club. You know, look, I
love Rafa Adal, but it's like, between the injuries and

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the fact that most of his dominances occurred on clay
h somehow he went from just such an outstanding watch
but a great clay court player to wait, maybe he's
the greatest ever to one of the greatest comebacks ever.
I just I never thought Rafa Nadal was the greatest
tennis player. He's a tremendous athlete. I think being left

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handed obviously is a bonus for him. Um, But whether
it's injuries or inability to consistently went on service outside
outside of clay I've never considered him to go. One
of my things that I thought was interesting that they
either brought a golf gallery to that applause that John
Ramos played, or they played on court forty two at
the England Club where they're only six people. Let's here

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one more time, John, Can I hear one more time? Yeah?
That's a that's a smartsort, smattering offense. By the way,
the match went so long that Novak Djokovic wasn't even
able to start his fourth row match. They're gonna have
to play that tomorrow. How about a couple of NFL notes.

(01:38:42):
Steelers running back Levan Bell waiting on sunning his or
did sign his franchise tender for twelve million dollars, but
the long term deal not yet coming from Pittsburgh. Cardinals
running back David Johnson spoke out about it, telling the
mm QB dot Com that he wants Bell to get
that the type of deal that levy On deserves. I

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think Levan Bell deserves a huge deal, a huge deal.
But he's been spending. He's been heard, Um, he's a
dynamic football player. I'm excited to see what the Steelers
have this year offensively, Mark Tavis Bryant back, all the
other Antonio Brown back and and you know, look, they
paid Antonio Brown a bunch of money in the off season. Uh,

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there's there's a limit to what you can pay guys now.
Signing bonuses allow them to smooth things in within the cap.
They gotta protect Big Ben. They have great running backs,
they have great skill. You have a smaller window because
big Ben is probably he's been throwing out that retirement stuff.
Probably one he wants your sympathy into. He wants you
to know that it's coming in a year or two.
I'm excited to see the Steelers more so than I'm

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crazy about what money Lady on Bell gets. Now. The
franchise tag deadline to sign a long term deals is
a week from today, Doug and a report from ESPN
says it's a long shot that the Redskins will come
to terms on a long term deal with quarterback Kirk Cousins.
Now Cousins who said as for the deal, it's not
about the money. It would also be the second straight
year Cousins plays under the tag. But I'm looking for

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a long term deal, Kirk Cousins saying it's not all
about the money. Yeah, whatever, Look Kirk Cousins, I mean
he had a great year statistically this past year, the
year before they went to the playoffs, but they didn't
be a team with a winning record. Um and oh yeah,
he's made at the end of if he if he's
still franchise tagged, he'll make what four million guarantee, So

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I think he'll make like forty four million guarantee in
two years. That's a well compensated quarterback. He's he's gaming
this system. The only thing they're doing is they're hurting
their ability to move him over to more of a
signing bonus, so they use that money to get more
players around him. But I just I think they see
him as a as a really good quarterback, not a
great quarterback, and either they're waiting for his value to

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go down or for somebody who want to trade for him,
or they're just gonna keep playing this game. It's a
weird relationship. But being drafted in the fourth round sometimes
people think or can't get out of your mind that
you're a fourth round In extended press today, the final
one is we went to eight a full court press, Doug,
you could say. Nineteen year old Rosa Dominguez won five
hundred and fifty five thousand, five hundred and fifty five

(01:41:12):
dollars on a five dollar scratcher earlier this month at Sacramento.
Just a couple of days later, she purchased another five
dollar scratcher at a different gas station won one hundred
thousand dollars. She won six hundred and fifty five thousand
dollars on to scratch off lottery tickets up in Sacramento
and the span of about a week, nineteen years old
was the last time was Have you ever bought a scratching? Yes?

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I bought a few. The most I ever won was
fifty dollars. I believe Ramos. You ever buy him? Yes?
The most I have won? What nine dollars? Right? I
mean like that he has buying like every week, Like
I just do wonder, Like now they're like five bucks.

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They used to be like a buck, now like five bucks? Right,
some are like twenty now, so would that be like
I don't know it just like once a week, like
all right, every every Friday after give a bade Jack,
I'm gonna go down and get me his graduate. I
used to work at a truck stop out of out
of high school, and I knew many of people who
would spend a lot more money on scratchers than they

(01:42:17):
should have. Yeah, Like, look, I would love to say
it's wasting money, but I spend money on coffee that
I shouldn't, so I'm not. I can't really make funny
and at least yours has a chance, although a very
slim chance of making money, there is a chance there.
Whereas the coffee just goes down my throat. That's all
it does. It tastes great going down my throat makes
my whole body feel wonderful, wonderful. I got this guy

(01:42:41):
at our hotel. He makes cappuccinos every morning. His name
is Mazin, so he tells me things in Arabic and
in Hebrew. I don't understand either, but I asked him
to translate. He tells me, and he's told me the
last two days, you have a blessed life. So that's good.
Happy for that. Let's get to um what's trending, and
then we'll, uh, we'll catch up, I believe with Tom Verducci,

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Who's gonna be part of the Fox broadcast tomorrow at
the All Star Game. Tom Verducci is next Doug gott
Leave show Fox Sports Radio. Let's catch up with Tom Verducci.
Read him in Sports Illustrated, you see him on Fox TV,
You'll see him on the All Star Game tomorrow night.
He joins his live from Miami. Um home runs are
in the air this year. I mean they're hitting him

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out at a at a record pace. And Tom, I
want you to listen to what the Commissioner Major League
Baseball had to say earlier today on Colin Coward Show,
in regards to what Rob Manfred said this as to
why the home run numbers are up. I think the
sport goes through cycles. You know, sometimes pitchings dominant, um,

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sometimes hitters are more dominant. We have seen a change
in the way that the game is taught at the
youth level, UM. A change in approach at the major
league level. Way more analytics, way, more tolerance of plays
like strike outs that people didn't you still up, less
interest in the stolen base, you know, all these analytics
and as a result, the games being played a little different. Um.

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I will say, our research shows are fans like home runs?
Yeah no, everybody knows Tom that the chicks dig the
long ball, Okay, but Manfred not admitting that the strike
zone has changed, like all of a sudden in one year,
all these players have changed their swings and and little
league baseball and that's affected like it's the strike zone,

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isn't it. You want to listen, Doug, a couple of things.
Number One, Yeah, everybody loves the home run, right, but
we all love ice cream too, And you know what
happens when you too much ice cream? Right? Yeah? Brain freeze,
you put on weight, all those things. So there is
a limit, and we're pushing that limit with these home runs.
The percentage of runs scored now by a home run
is now forty two percent, as the greatest percentage of

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the history of baseball. What does that mean. It means
we're diminishing the number of times there's actual rallies, which
are the things that really gets fans to their feet.
Home run, what they happen? You don't see him coming,
tom Berducci joining us, I'm sorry, tom Berducci joining us
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay, So with that

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in mind, Uh, does that make the home run Derby
even bigger tonight? I mean, like, look, I've been there,
I've been to two of these. They do have a
tendency to drag on. But the Aeron judge factor, I
think weighs large. Not just that he's massive and he
hits him up, he's also a Yankee. Um. Does that
make the home run Derby bigger tonight than it's been? Yes?

(01:45:32):
I think it's the most compelling homeworn Derby we've ever
had on schedule. I won't see what happens, but remember now,
there's a time limit on these things. They don't drag
as much. And you're talking about really the flavors of
the year when you talk about young players who we
really don't know much about, Aaron Judge, Cody Bellinger. So
factor all that in the way the ball flies these days.

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I think this is the kind of matchup that you
want to see because it's about younger players. You don't
see a lot of old guards in the home run
derby this year. Tom Verducci joining us. What's wrong with
the Cubs a lot? Let me start with starting pitching,
all right, because that's what carried them last year. This year,
last year at this time never one in all of
baseball this year, number seventeen. And there's a reason for that.

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It's an older staff. They're big four talking about Ariana,
Lester Hendricks, Lackey. The velocity on their fastballs all down
by at least a mile to two miles per hour,
so they don't have the same stuff. They're a little older.
They pitched that seven months last year. Start with that.
Start with their outfield defense, which has been really bad,
and the fact that they have not hitting the clutch
at all. They're in a box though, because I don't

(01:46:38):
think one trade is going to improve this team. I
think this is the hand they have that they need
to play out and just hope that their guys hit better. Yeah,
and I do think that. Look, there's two wild card spots.
They still have a lot of talent. You would expect
you would expect them to find a way to sneak
in and then that talent. But but there's all There's
also has to be a little there's some chemistry issues

(01:46:59):
on a team. There's some disease of me on that team.
We saw it creep in a little bit end of
last season and and though they advanced and won the
World Series, took them seven to to put away the
Indians and then they get all the Ada boys. I mean,
is there a chance that somebody we don't think could
be moved could be moved, uh so that THEO puts

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his foot down to kind of elimit and eliminate some
of these chemistry issues. I think there's one chance, and
that is if THEO can find his next young starting
pitcher who's going to replace Arietta or Lester next year
at the rotation. So to do something like that, whether
it's a sunny Gray. Whether it's a Jose Cantata, you're
gonna have to trade, if not guys on your at

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least your best prospects. That's the only trade I see
happening for the calls of trade. That is not so
much about the next two months, although that would help certainly,
but about fixing their rotation going forward next year. Um. Look,
the Yankees were the story of baseball and they's still
a little bit are with Aaron Judge obviously sans as
in the derby tonight, whether it should be or shouldn't be,

(01:48:02):
it's I don't, I don't. I don't think we have
to argue about who should be in a home run derby. Um.
That said, they've fallen on some hard times of late.
They got some Matt Holiday had that weird allergic reaction,
and they have uh, they had some pitching issues, obviously
Cec getting hurt. But there was always kind of the
plan to hey, if we're pretty good, we can add
some pitching late. Who can they add late? That's a

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great question, because I don't think they can significantly add
to their pitching without disrupting this core of young physition
players they have, And I don't see Brian Cashman feeling
from that tick. I really don't. In other words, I
think some of the pitching problems they have are not
going to go away. They're gonna try to cover it
with often and they might be able to do that,
I believe it or not. I think a huge key
for them is gonna be Musty hero Tanaka. I mean,

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he's been awful lately for most of the first half
of the season. He's healthy, they're kind of slumba says
that what the heck has been wrong with him while
he's been getting hit. But if he gives them decent
start for the second half of the season, I think
they can still be a contender. So to me, it's
about them overcoming some of those stitching shortcomings, just pounding
the baseball when they get Castro back, when they get

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Holiday back. Um, how do you explain the Dodgers and
how like they've won someone run games as of late,
but this last month has been just amazing. Obviously Kershaw
is great, but how do you explain the utter and
sheer dominance, especially at Schevez at schebezr vie. I think

(01:49:26):
the actual scientific definition is pixie dust. You know, some
teams just kind of acquire that look. And you mentioned
one run record that it's been so dominant at home.
They're behind the ninth benning and they feel like they're
going to win the game. Uh, they are on a
magic carpet ride right now. Take nothing away from them.
It's a really good team. I thought coming into seventeen

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they were the deepest team in all of baseball. They
can basically just outlast other teams with their depths. But
now they've got something magical going where they totally believe
in themselves, in their manager. I think that the dangerous
team in the National League. And to be honest with you, Doug,
I think there's a gap between them in Washington, which
is the next best team in the National League. I

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really think there's a significant gap there, basically because of
Washington's problems in their bullpen. I mean, to beat the Dodgers,
you gotta beat them nine innings solid, and the Nats
just don't match up late in the game against that offense.
I'm so glad you brought that up. Not just the
Nats bullpen. They've had that problem as opposed to Kenley
Jansen and everything that sets him up. But that leads
me to the best team in the American League. The

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Astro's sixteen and a half games up on the second
place team in their division. And I mean, look that
the hitting, the youth and athleticism they have in that
lineup AL two Korea h Josh Reddick, George Springer, Garry y'all.
I like this. I mean it's a they have a
tremendous lamp and then they're pitching with Kaiko obviously can

(01:50:50):
be spectacular. Lance mccolor has has been good as well.
But I mean, like, is Ken Giles going to close
down a World Series? Like? I just I don't know.
I maybe I'm underestimating the magical powers of Ken Giles,
but I feel like for a team that has that
much talent that is clearly going to the playoffs, uh,

(01:51:11):
don't they have to go out and get a legit closer. Well,
first of all, I think you're absolutely right about their offense, Okay,
because a lot of those young guys are young guys
with experience that have to battle scars, losing the postseason
series of flowing some leads down the stretch. So they're
in good shape offensively. We all know that. I think
they know they are two pictures short from going to

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the World Series. First of all, they need a left
handed specialist in the bullpens because you have to match
up against the best left handed hitters come October. And
I believe they know they need another starting pitcher Kaiko,
assuming he's health in October, and Lancero Colors. That's a
great one to combo, but they just don't have enough
after that. So to me, I would prioritize a third

(01:51:54):
starting pitcher, a left handed relief pitcher, and hope that
Giles gets it done because stuff wise, yeah, he's got
a closer stuff. There's no doubt about that. You could
throw a hundred with a white out slider. But you
never know about those guys until they actually get in
that moment when they're asked to close a postseason game,
whether they actually can get it done. Okay, So the

(01:52:14):
All Star pregame show Arizon Fox Tomorrow night coverage begins
at seven thirty Eastern time. Pregame show has Kevin Burkhardt,
A Rod and Frank Thomas. Of course, during the game,
you've got Joe Buck, John Smoltz, uh with Ken Rosenthal
and Tom Verducci reporting from the dougusts, you get the
A R N L dugout. I got the n all
this year. I mean, you can't lose. But it's always

(01:52:36):
interesting being a dugout with Joe Madden. You hear a
lot of funny things. You do. You hear some and
some you can repeat and some you can't. He Enjoy Miami,
Enjoy Miami, keep up the great key, up with the
great stuff. You haven't read his uh his midseason awards,
go to Sports Illustrated You or just type in Tom
Verducci's Sports Illustrated Content fall m on Twitter, or watch

(01:52:56):
him tomorrow night on Fox. Tom thanks so much for
joining us on Fox Sports Radio. They always a pleasure.
Thanks for having me, Doug all right that the pleasure
is absolutely mine. James Harden got paid for being a
great regular season player, but you don't get paid for
the playoffs. I'll prove it to you next Doug Otlip Show,

(01:53:16):
Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having a great day
getting ready for Home Run Derby, whether you're really watching
or not. Sam Donald's gonna join us tomorrow afternoon four Pacific.
Excuse me Eastern time for fifteen East times at fourteen
Pacific time. That would be after my show, Steve Gorny
like sweet, I got Sam Donald Booya up top right,

(01:53:38):
Sam Donalds gonna Pacific time. I've had three or four
different chats with Sam Donald. He just got done, I
think with the Peyton Family football camp. He's the Heisman Trophy, Uh,
front runner. I mean the season hasn't played yet, but
he's stud And probably the best part about the whole

(01:54:00):
story is his grandpa was for Marlboro Man. Right. You
know his grandpa's name, right? Music? You know the story
Roma's do you know his his late grandpa's Mr. Marlborough? No, No,
he was. There was four Marlborough men. He was one
of them, Marble men. Uh, Dan By, you know what.

(01:54:21):
Dan Buyer knows this. I'm sure like I'm in Jerusalem,
Dan Buyer is he? Is he looking it up? Don't
look at No. No, I was gonna say Arnold, No,
Arnold Donald Rams that's funny. What movie? Come on? What movie?
What movie? Wedding singer that I can knew? I could

(01:54:43):
count on? Buy yes, count great job by, great job
he did it. Huh good job. Uh. Sam Donald's Grandpa's
name was Dick Hammer. I can't make that up. He's
he was a legendary water polo player and volleyball player,

(01:55:05):
like he was an athletic stud and then and his
name's Dick Hammer. I mean you just can't. I mean
that's like, that's a porn star's name, right, It's amazing.
He was not a point who did not start in pornography.
He was a Marlboro man, Sam Donald, Joe. Tomorrow, we'll
talk to the former San Clemente Triton and the current

(01:55:26):
USC Trojan. Well ask him also, like everybody's like, well
he's going pro is he? I'm gonna ask him? Why not?
Why not? Music? Can I let you in a little
secret here? No idea what I teased? What I tease
James Harden, Jason Man, I could have told you in

(01:55:46):
your ear and we could just do it. That's okay,
you could have, but that would have liked Listen, we
don't want to. There's no secrets here. Yeah. Yeah, you
were going to tell the audience why James Harden got
paid for being a great regular season player. Well, look
he like he Look, he plays every game in the
regular season. He's spectack in the regular season. But you
actually get paid like anyone who says like, well, football
players should you know what they should do? They should strike,

(01:56:09):
They should strike, they deserve more money. They put themselves,
they do put themselves in harm's way. Because they put
themselves in harm's way, they're more likely to get hurt.
And they only have sixteen dates, sixteen tour dates, you know,
I mean, like, look, the reason football players aren't his
vibe is the same reason that like Bill Simmons show

(01:56:31):
was was could never gain real traction. That you can't
do a sports show once a week. Those days are over.
When I was a kid, I used to have Last
Week in Baseball with Mel Allen. Remember that baseball and
ballin tie one one day a week. Like, people don't

(01:56:51):
appointment watch like that anymore, They just don't. But he
he gets paid for the regular forty seven million dollars year. Wow,
And remember the cap didn't even go up as much
as they thought it would, although it will go up
more probably in years to come. The problem, though, is
his legacy is based upon the postseason pay for the

(01:57:13):
regular season, legacy for the postseason, and you would think
this would put them at some point in a financial
pickle to which they won't be able to surround him
with the talent, and that was what we were told
is why he sucked so bad at the end of
the spur series. Well, I'll get it disappointed that that
Alonzo Ball is not gonna play against Deer and Fox tonight.

(01:57:35):
We're gonna see a rematch of the Sweet sixteen, a
rematch of AU matchups, a rematch of a regular season
game between Kentucky and U c l A. And the
trash talking between the dad and Daron Fox want a
piece of him. We're not gonna see it because we're
told Alonzo Ball has a alright, get your quotation fingers ready,
a sore groin, so groin. But if the guy is

(01:58:00):
talking trash that he's better than you, don't you have
to have something you're in your growing to prove him wrong,
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