Doug Reacts To Panthers Firing Dave Gettlemen

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Boom Up America. Daddy's back in the house, back state
side passport has been stamped. Sleep has been more than marginal,
slightly optimal. Doug Gottlieb in sunny southern California, the city
of Angels. I've returned with uh. If you're watching on
Facebook Live, that is a gold medal in hand from

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the Maccabi Games where my team wanted for me. Last night.
Last night actually at this exact time, we were celebrating
in Jerusalem, Israel. And then after a little celebration locker room,
me and a couple of people went to the airport,
got on a flight fifteen hours with no WiFi. Oh
my god, no WiFi on an airplane. That feels like that.

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That that feels like driving with no power steering right.
It feels like something from a foregone era. I felt
like no WiFi. I should light up a cigarette on
an airplane. That's how long ago we seem to not
have WiFi any I. UM, it was an incredible experience.
If you follow me on Facebook or on Twitter or
on I G on Instagram, you can see more pictures

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and I'll post more things. I have more videos. But
I got a chance to coach. What it amounts to
the best Jewish players in America playing against the best
Jewish players in France. Actually a really good team. Last
night we won championship, got gold medals, celebrated. They party
like rock stars in Tel Aviv. Some some of their
videos I will post. Some are not safe for work
that I will not post. But in the meantime, good

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group of guys, great experience. And two people are like,
oh yeah, coach Jewish team, there's not good Jewish players. Okay.
This is my My statement to that is very simple.
I'm in the Southern California Jewish Sports Hall of Fame
and I was in town for it, and it was
it was a really very cool, touching in hindsight, because

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my dad was there for the ceremonies. My dad's not
here now obviously. And we went to a bar afterwards.
We were having drinks and a buddy of mine just
happened run into me. He's like, what are you in
town for. I was like, in the Southern California and
Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, and he's like, that's awesome.
I was like, well, you know, it's like the Jewish
Sports It's like, well, I'm not in the Hall of fame.
And then see like you stood up at a bar
and said, like, is anybody else in the hall of

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fame here? And hold no one else at the bar
was actually in any sort of hall of fame. So
while this is my second gold medal from Maccaby Games
one one as a player in two thousand one, um
more awarding actually the coach than it was to play.
It was kind of a weird experience for me. I
didn't think I would have that feeling, but I did. Actually.

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But anyway, how many gold medals do you have? That
that's your right. If so some somebody wants to say, like, yeah,
how many gold medals? Yeah? It was great. So you
can see more about it on Facebook. Let's get to
the news of the day as we're waiting to hear
what happens with many of these franchise tag ease right, Well,
Kirk Cousins get a long term deal, Will Levy on
Bell get a long term deal. I'll tell you who

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will not be getting a long term deal. That would
be Dave get Leman. Uh. Dave Geentleman is out as
the general manager of the Carolina Panthers. Adam Schefter tweets
out since the start of the year. The Panthers have
lost their president, resigned their assistant GM who went and
followed Sean McDermott their defensive coordinator quite an off season schefter.

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Schefter's tweet is not really indicative of what happened. Sean
McDermott left as air defense coordineer to get promoted to
being a head coach, and then he took his favorite
front office member with him to be as general manager.
So Chefter pointing out that all these guys that are
gone like both got promoted, so um Jeff Darlington, who

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covers the team. Important to note, of course, Gettleman did
inherit Newton, Keith, Lee, Olsen, Khalil Davis, Josh Norman, Toldber, etcetera.
But also inherded a bad cap. That is the most
important part. Dave Gentleman took the fall today. Obviously there's
a difference, not just in personalities, but in thoughts of
the franchise. None of this beens at the Carolina Panthers

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were an epic and complete disaster coming off the loss
in the Super Bowl. Gentleman gets apparently zero credit for
a team that nearly went undefeated. Two seasons ago. Do
you remember that Caroline Panthers were the last team? They
all lost one regular season game and lost in the
Super Bowl when Cam Newton stunk up the joint. They
were terrible against a very good Denver Broncos uh defense.

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So I love the fact that here we are and
you see tweets of Steve Smith calling out Dave Gentleman like, look, yes,
he didn't resign Steve Smith, who went to the Baltimore Ravens.
They went to the Super Bowl after Steve Smith was gone,
so we can look back and act like this, these
were mistakes that he made, but it's not actually accurate.
Their offensive line was bad last year, so too was

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Cam Newton. He's now recovering from rotator cup surgery. They
did part ways with D'Angelo Williams and Josh Norman. But
what no one seems to be owning up to is
he inherited a terrible cap situation. And in bad cap situations,
you have to make really, really hard decisions. Do I
keep talented young players who want to get paid, or

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do I try and get more good players that are younger,
knowing that they won't be as good immediately, but will
ultimately possibly pay more dividends with the number of players
you can get, as well as the fact that there
are certain people who can keep, certain people who can't keep.
This is what happens with Super Bowl teams. Cap gets
that we saw with the Baltimore Ravens. We saw it,
We've seen him with now with the Seattle Seahawks. Think

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how many former Seahawk players are now playing elsewhere. There
are guys they've been able to hold onto, there are
guys they haven't. And by the way, the same thing
happened to the Seattle Seahawks in that last year. Their
offensive line was an abject disaster that didn't allow Russell
Wilson to have his best season early on. As their
offensive line got a little better, got a little healthier,

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they became better, They became Russell Wilson end up having
a very good second half of the year. But look,
regardless of what you think of Gettleman, and it seems
to have been a mistake letting go of D'Angelo Williams.
The idea that we can look back and say he
did this right, Steve Smith was let go was a

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was a mistake. Like look, they went to the Super
Bowl without C Smith, Calvin Benjamin was out that entire year,
and they dominated football with their defense, with their running game.
And so the best guess as to what happened is
somebody has to take the fall for a terrible season.
Cam newtoname taking the fall. He was the m v P,

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and sure as hell didn't play like it. Ron Rivera
not taking the fall, And if Ron Rivera says him
or me, it's apparently him. And just to show how
dysfunctional that organization must be, to fire a general manager
right now after many of the decisions have already been made,
does not seem to put the Carolina Panthers on the

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best path, especially in a division that has the Atlanta
Falcons and went to the Super Bowl last year, that
have a very and up and coming defense that seems
to have managed their cap a little bit better. The
Tampa Buccaneers a team on the rise. We'll see if
the New Orleans Saints can get it back together. Edward
or said, only the Patriots, Seahawks, Broncos, and Packers have
one more games than the Panthers. In Dave in Dave

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Gentleman's four seasons, he've been there four years inherited a
bad cap created a tremendous defense. They had to part
ways with Josh Dorman, who wanted a big rays. But
if you keep Josh Dorman, somebody else has to go.
That's the way it works with a salary cap. My
guess is that they haven't been happy in terms of

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the decisions he made, and he took the fall for it,
and then we wait to see what happens with Kirk Cousins. Right,
this seems like the classic, Uh, everybody is super super
dug in, but deadlines bring deals. Deadlines bring deals. I
don't know if you're one of these guys that you
you'll wait until you get the notice to make that
first that payment for your a T and T bill

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like a put it off, put it off, Or you
get a parking ticket and you know the parking tickets are,
it's fifty bucks up until this one date, and then
if you don't pay it by that day, it becomes
a hundred dollars and you wait until that last moment.
That's basically the way it works with the NFL. These
deals could have been done a long time ago, but
you get all the little stuff done and then Kirk Cousins,

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like all quarterbacks wants to be paid at the highest
rate possible. He doesn't want to be the highest paid
quarterback simply because he threw for yards last year, but
because that's generally the way it works, the last guy
paid gets the most money. The Redskins are dug in
because they know he's not really a top ten quarterback,
but he's a good starting quarterback and they paid him
twenty million guaranteed last year, and if he sticks at

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the franchise take it's twenty four million dollars this year.
So the Redskins are factoring that into their negotiation, whereas
Kirk Cousins management's like, no, no, no no, no, this is
a new contract aside from that, and of course the
gray area is somewhere in the middle. But if he
doesn't get signed to a long term deal today, uh,

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this becomes even more interesting, right because there's no way
that there's there's no way that you play him another
year on a cap that that becomes over sixty a
franchise tech that becomes over sixty million dollars guaranteed or
seventy million dollars guaranteed average of the top five salaries,
which will increase every year. So it tells you that

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they are not completely bought into Kirk Cousins. And that's
the leverage that Cousins has is he knows it helps
the rest of the team if he takes a long
term contract because it lowers his cap hit. On the
other hand, the team knows that he doesn't have a
long term deal and he has to show how good

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he is for a second consecutive year. If you look
back two years ago, yes they went to the playoffs.
They did not beat a team with a winning record
last season. That's the not one went to the playoffs
bad in the playoffs. Cousins is one of these guys
that because he was underdrafted and because he overachieved based

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upon his draft status, and because he's he's earned the
respect of down two coaching staffs. But it's a there's
a difference between earning respect and earning a starting job
and earning the highest salary in the NFL or one
of the top salaries in the NFL at the most
important position in the NFL. Just ask yourself, this is
Kirk Cousins a top ten quarterback and your answer is

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probably not right off the top of your head. Aaron
Rodgers the best. Tom Brady is the most accomplished, right.
You throw in Philip Rivers and Drew Brees, and you
probably put the Russell Wilson's and Ben Roethlisberger. Of course,
in that same category with Andrew Luck, you probably include
Eli Manning and that above that of Kirk Cousins, even

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though Cousins statistically had a better year last year and
he is younger. You kind of worked through all, you know,
all of the other high level quarterbacks in the National
Football League, and then you go, well, look, he's more
proven than anybody have in l a more proven than
anybody they have in Chicago. Right Chicago, we don't know
what they're trying to do where they they go in

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and sign a backup to be a starter and then
draft a starter to back him up. We don't know
exactly how good Carson Wentz is because after the first
three games the year there were times in which he struggle.
We think that Dak Prescott has a chance to be
a star, but it's just one season, Like Kirk Cousins
is pretty good, Like he's somewhere in that twelve to
eighteen variety right now. But the problem becomes the trend

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has always been. Whoever gets the latest contract gets the
biggest contract, and the Redskins are trying to pay him
at an appropriate level. But that's generally not how the
game is played. How does it end up? We find
out today. Alright, so we're waiting on NFL news. We're
trying to figure out what Caroline is doing. It's pretty

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obvious that the head coach has more power than the
Rome manager and Dave Gentleman is gonna take the fall
for disastrous season. But I will warn people Cam Newton's
coming off a shoulder injury. It might not matter who
the general manager is next year. It's really hard to
fathom that he will have a great season coming off
shoulder surgery. We're coming up next, we'll turn the basketball.

(12:17):
Chris Brusar joins us on Lebronze growing frustration with the
Cleveland Cavaliers and what's the ultimate endgame? There? Daddy's back
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Sports Radio. And to be back in the City of Angels.
Really gonna be back. Um. For people who haven't traveled
abroad or haven't traveled with abroad, Hell, I'll be here

(13:03):
alway to try the veal uh brahma's he traveled abroad.
I have not traveled abroad. Um music. If you traveled,
you're what You're not a girlfriend just got back from
traveling abroad. She's a traveling abroad. Actually, it's what she does.
She's an executive. She's super sharp. What a buyers buy
buy her? A world traveler or just a local traveler? Yes,

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never never crossed any seas bended Canada, not Mexico. Um. Okay.
So like, look, Israel is beautiful. It's incredibly spiritual. Obviously,
it's very religious, but more than religious, it is very
spirit You just you kind of feel whatever your religion is,
you feel very connected to it. Um. But there's a
there's there's a saying that I have invented for Israel,
And I don't know if I've invented it or I've

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coined it, but I'm gonna take credit for it. Okay,
you ready for it? Israel, nothing is easy. That's it.
That's it, right, Like nothing is just easy. Like I
was gonna go down to the market and I was
gonna go get a couple of coffees. Is everything is
just It's the nature of the part of the world
that you're in. It's the nature of obviously a language barrier.
But where they than the part of the world you're in,

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which no day is complete without some form of Israeli argument, right,
They just they argue. They like to argue and use
their hands and talk very loudly. How are you? I'm great?
How are you? Anyway? Israel, nothing is easy, and as
much as there are parts of our country which are
completely screwed up, right, Like, if you don't think we're

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screwed up, go back and watch for about who you
voted for. Our election pros the process of selecting who
are the two or three best representatives of our people
to run for president as a screwy deal, right, these
really snapshots of who we are. I don't know as
screwed up as parts of our country are. I challenge
you to go to any foreign country even when you

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adore and I had, I really like Israel. And you
get out there plane, you see you see old glory,
like you come down the elevator or you come down
the escalator, excuse me, and like l A X or
JFK and you see old glory. You're like, damn, it's
good to be home, all right, even even I was
like I got on the I got on the Four Hives,
like man, l A traffic is so much better than

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Israeli traffic. L A smug. It's so much better than
Israeli smug. Gonna be back. A couple of things going
on in the NBA which are are fascinating to me.
Leslie Alexander is the Sleslie Alexander Right, all right, Leslie
Alexander um is the owner of the Houston Rocks, or

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at least for now has has apparently put the team
up for sale. Now, there could be some personal issues.
Maybe you don't want the kids and the grandkids to
get his hands in the fortune. Maybe he's just done
with it, or it could bet the he's like most
businessman and he's like sell Hi right. Value of NBA

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franchises have never been better. That's where you make your money.
You don't make your money on the day to day.
He knows that the expenses are coming. James Harden for
seven million dollars coming starting not this season, the following
season on the contract extension. In order to get James
Harden and maybe get Karmelo Anthony and get Chris Paul
and then keeping together more than one year, that means

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you're gonna have to resign them to even more money,
which means over the cap, which means luxury tax, which
means what happened in Cleveland happens to them. I don't
know if you're aware of this, but Dan Gilbert is
paying nearly two million dollars in salaries and luxury cap taxes.
I'll get to what that means as far as the
calves in a second, but the point is that Dan

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Gilbert is paying money. If you're a UH tax offender,
you pay I think I believe over two and a
half percent for every dollar over the cap doll over
the luxury threshold. And then if you repeat offender, which
means more than two years two years or more over
the Luxury Act, you pay over four so if you

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see that, well, they're only five million dollars over the cap.
That makes you pay twenty million dollars for the right
to pay five million dollars over the cap. Do you
understand you're paying twentillion dollars to other teams for nothing.
It's terrible business being competitive long term in the NBA,

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it's terrible. Don't let anybody tell you, oh, the owners
are just swimming in money. They do. If in fact,
they sell the team that they have right now, they're
getting more money than they've gotten from the TV revenue.
But eventually the salaries will continue to rise along with
luxury text and if you're good, you pay for the

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right to continually being good. And my guess is lovely
Alexander or whoever is running his estates like this is
the dumbest business model ever to just sit on this
asset right now. You're at its peak. Right now, your
value is probably over a billion dollars, even though you're
losing money on the day to day and you're going
to lose even more money and years to come. Sell sell, sell,
sell sell, and whenever you out the team, forty million

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dollars like all of the all of that net is
profit that your kids, grandkids, grandkids, grandkids, grandkids can live
off of. So we're in an very interesting place in
the NBA to which franchises are overvalued and they under

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deliver continually. Dan Gilbert lost money, you know, look did
they do they? There are there other ways in which
they make money. Sure, but this idea that like, well,
you know he loses money, but he makes money. Like
can you imagine if you had an investment like that?
There is no tell me the investment that's other friends,
Like if you if you own a franchise, Um, do

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you own a Burger Kid? Right? Most people don't on one,
they owned several. They own franchises, they own Burger Kings. Like, yeah,
you can sell those franchises once you get them up
and running and make some money on it. But you
wouldn't own you and keep owning it if you lost
money year to year unless you had some other huge
money making business and you needed to off you need

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to offset your your books. So pretty interesting what's going
on in Houston, And then there's what's going on in
Cleveland where Dan Gilbert is losing money and apparently Lebron
James is losing patients let's welcome to Chris Prostard, who
joins us. You can hear him weekends on Fox Sports Radio.
You can see him daily on The Undisputed on The
Herd as well. Obviously, the guy knows all about the NBA,

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about hoops in general, and joins us here on The
Doug Gottlip Show. How bad is it between Lebron and
Dan Gilbert? Well, it's never been great between those guys,
even when Lebron went back there with a business relationship. Um,
I don't think they have much communication, if any, And
that's been the case basically for the three years that

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he's been there. Lebron obviously is frustrated with the way
they've handled things in the off season. I mean, David Griffin,
whether you think he's was such a great GM or
just pretty good and solid like I thought, at least
you have the GM. I mean, you to get rid

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of your GM right as you're headed into free agency
and the draft and all that. It just doesn't make sense.
If you're gonna get rid of him, get rid of
him and in a time that makes more sense. And
so that's where some of the frustration is coming in.
But that said, I mean they've They've been right there

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at you know, almost getting Paul George in a trade
three team deal with Denver and Indiana, UM close to
getting Jimmy Butler, and none of them came to fruition.
Uh not not solely because of the dysfunction in the
cast front office, but just because in the case of George,
Indiana didn't want to do it. And so those are

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you know, things that you know are really kind of
out of Dan Gilbert's control. But Lebron is frustrated with
some of what appears to be um brudderless leadership. Uh
there in Cleveland. Um, but I think Cleveland, look, that's
the talented roster. Even if they don't add anybody, I

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believe what Cleveland needs to do. And to be honest,
all these teams need to be doing is figuring out
their coaching staffs need to try to figure out what
is the absolute best way, best style, best offensive system
for us to play to maximize our talent. That's what

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Golden State did when Steve Kirb got there, and that's
what took them to a level no one thought they
could reach. It wasn't that they had the superior talent,
it was that they found the way for that team
to play Houston. You know you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
let me let me tell you some interesting here, Um, Chris,
can you sign it? Can you continue to join us
on the other side of trending? And can you do that? Okay?

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So I just got back. I coach a team in Israel, right.
So the team I coached, it's like it's like the
Jewish Olympics, right. So, uh, we hadn't played together and
we had just practiced against each other and we played
the Israeli Under twenty national team. Now it means they're
twenty years older. Under we had we had probably half
our team wouldn't have been eligible for that teams were older.

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But we've only been together for like, I don't know,
six practices and they kicked the hell out of us.
Now in and in hind first, I played everybody, but
I also started with two big guys. I've started my
two big guys because they had been my best to
interior players in practice and it was a disaster down
eighteen to two before and you can't, you know, international ball,
it's harder to call a time out and I just

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kind of want to let them figure it out as
they went, and I tinkered with different parts of the rosters,
so I ended up going with more of a kind
of the Death up to be my starting and finishing
lineup and and putting in big guys. My point to
it is, you're right, you have to find the ya
for your personnel. You have to find the best style

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as well as for the teams you play against, and
understand there are things that you're going to give up.
And I would I would probably say that Paul George
would be a better fit offensively for what they wanted,
what they want to do, and how they compete with
the Golden State Warriors. The problem to the Paul George
thing is that no matter what you think of how

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you can score, you also have to defend, and you
also have to rebound, and it would hurt them if
they didn't defend the rebound. Now the Paul George thing
is gone, that's off the Pluto. I guess my question becomes,
how come Lebron James doesn't take any blame at least
from uh. He's not willing to absolve any blame, absorb
any blamed himself when like Tristan resigning, that's with his agent.

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There's some connection there, right j R. Smith signing for
too much money, there's some kind of like I'm not
gonna blame because at the end of the day, end
of the day, Cleveland's front office made those decisions. But
they're in luxury, They're they're in cap hell because they
overpaid guys not named Lebron James, and they overpaid even
Kevin Love. And that's why they're not able to acquire

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another asset unlike some other teams. Yeah, no, I agree,
I I agree with that. And and like I said,
and I think you would agree that team is stacked, right.
They have two preenial All Stars and a superstar in Lebron,
two guys who definitely are going into the Hall of Fame.

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I think Kyrie's on his way, and maybe three. And
they've got a decent cast of role players. They've got
a lot of shooters. The problem is they do not
maximize their ability and Golden State up san Antonio. How
much talent does san Antonio has not they won sixty

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one games. I think they would have. I think if
they had met Cleveland in the finals, they would have
had it would have been a push to pick them.
I really think San Antonio would have had a great
chance of beating them, not because they have more talent,
but because Gregg Popovich have maximized the talent they do have.
That san Antonio team that ran Miami off the floor

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in They're They're superstars were older, but you know they
had Danny Green and guys like that killing Miami. It
was because they played the way they should play for
their personnel. Cleveland, the Clippers last year, some other teams.
They have not figured out what's the best way for

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us to play, and that's it's so that's what the
killing even coaches that should be working on right now,
and stop crying like you don't have any talent. I
want to have this discussion with you. Christoper Starr continues
to join us. By the way, Chris is coming in
to do Steve Gorman Show, which follows this show. He
and Rob Parker, Uh, they'll pop it up for a
couple of hours following our show on Fox Sports Radio. Chris,

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hold on, first, let's find out what's trending, all right.
Christophers Sarre continues to join us in the Doug Gotlip Show. Chris,
you just said something which um, I don't take offense too.
But I would take the opposite side of which is
that the Clippers and the Cavaliers haven't utilized uh their
talents to the best of their yet best of their
collective abilities. Is that? Is that a fair statement for

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what you said I was trying to condense it. Yes,
obviously more so the Clippers, But yeah, I would tend
to agree with that. Okay, So here's one of the
things I think what you're getting at, and I've I'll
still do radio in Oklahoma City to where they'll they'll
go back to when Kevin Durant was there and Russell
Westbrook there were Why don't they play the way the

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Spurs play? And the simple answers they don't have the
personnel that the Spurs have. It's like, why did the
Clippers only give the ball to Chris Paul to create shots? Like? Okay, well,
who else on that team outside of maybe Blake Griffin
was going to create shots? I guess the everybody wants
to run kind of ball movement and player movement and
the motion offense that the Warriors have. The differences that

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Lebron James can't play that way, He's never played that way.
Kyrie can't play that way. They don't know how to
play without the ball in their hands, and so you're
gonna teach guys that you're teaching old dogs new tricks,
and that's just not going to happen. That's why I
think that that adding Carmelo Anthony and Frankly Chris Paul
to the Houston Rockets are gonna be abject disasters because
they haven't ever played that way. And you're gonna go like, hey,

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you know everything you've done your entire life, I want
you to do the opposite, and I want you to
do it against better competition in the in the playoffs.
Like that doesn't work, So that would be my counter
to that. I get where you're coming from. But here's
the thing. Is your isolation style of basketball going to
beat Golden State? Um, I don't think it has anything

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to do with their offense. I think it has to
do with their defensive matchups were screwed up. You know
That's what I think. Like, like, if you if you're
gonna used, you're gonna say, hey, we're gonna run motion
like like Golden State does. Okay, Well, Tristan Thompson is
not can't handle the ball. Jerr Smith can't handle the basketball.
They should play. I don't think they should play like
Golden State. I think that's part of the problem with

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not not so much the Calves and the Clippers, but
a lot of other teams. I mean, New Orleans is
trying to play like Golden States when they got to
seven footers. I think Memphis does a good job of
playing to its strength and the championship team. But you know,
they play, they get, they get the most, They get
the most other talent they could get, get the most
out of their talent they could possibly get exactly. I

(28:37):
think Houston did it this year. You know, I think
it was more so. It wasn't D'Antoni adjusting to his talent.
It was just the fact that they happen to have
the players for his system. Now I will see what
I agree with you. I think Mike D'Antoni with two
mid range players and Chris Paul and if they get mellow,
I mean, it's gonna be disasters, not disasters. They'll probably

(28:59):
make the playoffs based on talent, but they won't be
any type of threat to win anything. I'll tell you
what the hardened Chris Paul and Kauai with say Gregg
popovichaua hardened Chris Paul and mellow with Greg Popovitch. That's
a team I would like. How about this, what if

(29:20):
you gave if you put GRG. Popovitch as a coach
in Cleveland, would you give them a chance to be
Golden State? It's we're creating like impossible. So this is like,
it's not happening at my point, don't I don't. I don't.
I honestly I don't. I've heard go ahead, get your point.
I'll tell you something. I'm trying to make the point.

(29:41):
I'm not saying there's any chance at all of that happiness. Not.
The point I'm trying to make is that what these
what Golden State has done that these other teams have
not done outside of San Antonio, is they have not
found what is the best system for their personnel. Cleveland

(30:03):
swears it's a fast, up tempo team right all finals long. No,
we're not gonna slow it down. We're gonna put it.
You were six teams in the league and place. What
are you talking about? But now on the other hand,
they what did they lose? What one game in the playoffs?
Like the whole thing I understand. It's like, I get it,
but it's not as bad. The problem is it's a

(30:24):
bad matchup for them, and they're personnel and they're kind
of stuck. I just I just feel like they're stuck,
right because you got if you have Love in Tristan
and Lebron, that's your front court and there you know,
you have to match up with Durant, Like, that's a bad,
bad matchup for you. If I got if, I so
let me ask you this. And I know it's a
five on five game, but you have the best player

(30:46):
in the world. You have a power and all star
power forward and an all star point guard with him,
and some pretty good rollers. That's just you're just not
good enough, that I mean. And maybe that's the case.
I think that honestly, Like I like Kevin Love, but
he for to be an all star power forward. When

(31:08):
you're guarded by guards and not be able to score
in the low post, you've you know, you've you've run
out of kind of usefulness to me, right, If Kevin
Love is gonna become a three point shooter and that's
the threat he brings the team, then that's not nearly
as useful. I would. I would generally agree, and I
think the rest of the league is kind of passed
him by. It's it's he plays it and he's not

(31:30):
good enough as a low post corps. I would like,
Here's where I say, if you were coaching, and would
you say this summer, Kevin, work on your post game. Yes,
because we're gonna use but you gotta use you got
you gotta utilize it. Don't see That's what I'm saying,
look at your personnel. But but I don't like Tyler.
I think the good coach. I'm just saying you like

(31:52):
we think back to the eighties. That's when you and
I were guying growing up. I don't think the Lakers
would have ever went into a season. I know they
all were trying to add different pieces or Boston ever
goes into a season thinking we just can't beat them.
We didn't. We didn't. We didn't get this star to
add to our team this year, so we're not gonna

(32:13):
be able to beat him. Magic would have went into
the offseason thinking, Okay, what can I add to my
game that's gonna enable us to beat Boston? Didn't you
know what I'm saying, Why didn't they add Why didn't
they pull off the Paul George Trake? Why didn't that happen? Well,
the one I'm told that all three owners in Denver,

(32:34):
Indiana and Cleveland had agreed to the deal, and then
the GM in Indiana, Kevin Pritchard, basically nixed it. But
he wouldn't. He went dark and just disappeared on him,
you know, as far as I mean, so that that's
one of those that's one of those things to which

(32:55):
like we want to be critical of Cleveland, but and
I don't. And it's like it's really easy to go
like why didn't they make that? We do this all
the time, like Danny Ainge, Like why did Danny age
the deal? It's like, Okay, well, we don't actually know
what the what the parameters of the deals were, and
like to me, I actually think Danny Ainge wins because
he got the guy who wants They still have a
bunch of those assets. I don't know about about Avery

(33:17):
Bradley deal, but I think that's because they figured they
couldn't afford to keep it right. And then he still
got Isaiah and you got Marcus. Got a thing here.
I'm telling you this from Boston, and I know it's
summer league. I'm not gonna jump to conclusion. Jason Tatum's legit.
He's a he's legit, right, So what I want from
Boston this year is do not hold him back, you know,

(33:40):
because there's a chance he might not even start. I mean, yeah,
but like, who who are you gonna? Who are you
gonna like? Marcus Morris is? Marcus Morris is a pro? Okay,
Jason Brown has been there, your Jam Browns. I get it,
I get it. But if Tatum is one that you know,
we see it every and I'm not saying he's Kevin
Duran or you know, on that level, but we do
see guys every once in a while come into the

(34:02):
league ready, you know, and they're gonna get you twenty
right away. And what I'm saying to Boston is hopefully
they do not hold him back if he's ready to get,
you know, to come in. If they say in training
camp that, oh, this dude is ready to step right
in and be an eighteen nineteen point scored, then then
I you know, I know Morris is a really good defender,

(34:25):
and he's I'm sure he's gonna be a better defender
at least right now than take them. But I just
don't I don't want him to get lost. I mean,
what do we know Jalen Brown? I don't think it's
as good as take do you no? But he he
also has a year. They're just different Brown. But don't
you think we don't really know? Like Jalen Brown is

(34:46):
almost getting lost. I look, I didn't like that they
took him three, but he's a freak athlete who's super versatile,
and they played him in some big spots in the
playoffs and he did play pretty well. But again, let's
see what happens when Tatum plays against pros. I've said
I thought Tatum was the most ready to play of
any of these guys, and that's that's played out so far.

(35:09):
But my big takeaway is like, hey, Danny Ains got
the guy he wanted, and he appears to have been
right and got a first round pick next year. I
got the guy he wanted in free agency and held
onto his picks. The the Avery Avery Bradley thing is risky,
but he did get a ready to play power forward.
I feel like they got better and still have all
of their picks next year, which allows them to make
a move potentially during the season. I still think he

(35:32):
wins the off season. I'll see if I'm I'm proven wrong. Hey, Chris,
this is great stuff. I can't wait to hear you
on uh Steve Gorman Show with Rob Parker following the show.
I'll see you when you stop in. Thanks for joining me,
all right? Than man? All right, Chris Brussarry, we could,
honestly can we can? He like one day we got
it like just being Brussar just talkball the whole time.
That'd be Would that be boring to people? Because we

(35:53):
both this is kind of how we have conversations. We
ask each other questions and we try and finish each
other like I actually think the other thing. He's awesome,
big fan. Tiger Woods is no longer a top thousands
golfer thousand, big deal, little deal or no deal. I'll
explain next. This is the Dug Gotlieb Show on Fox

(36:17):
Sports Radio. With True Car, you can find out what
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you're looking for, new or used. Is a true Car
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Live Show, Fox Sports Radio. M hmmm, Dan Buyer, is

(36:40):
he back from getting water he had the trek, like
I guess your buyer, your areas the desert, and like
I'm the oasis, like I'm the key to the water.
I've drank more water, like I'm not. I do a
bad job of How many cups of water are you
supposed to have a day? People overd like you supposed
to eight cups of water a day, Like, okay, that
means nine trips to the bathroom for me and I

(37:00):
just but you're supposed to have a lot more water
than I normally drink. I'm like a tea and lemonade guy,
or you know a couple other you know, coffee espresso guy. Anyway,
and I drink some water. But but if you've ever
traveled overseas, like there's still they're starting to work towards
the twenty one century. But I have said this about Israel,
which I've just returned from. They're a little bit stuck
in the eighties. Right. They still smoke cigarettes and go

(37:20):
to malls. Right, um yeah, and women still women still
use aquanitte for their hair. The last part I might
have added it. But they drink lots of You either
drink like coke or like super fruity juices or water.
All right, Um, let's get to my sack. Let's reach

(37:42):
into godly sack. Sorry I cut you on time. Here,
my bad. Let's get to a big deal, a little
deal or no deal? All right? That's all right, we
don't we we can move on. How about this Engulf
Tiger Woods um falling down the rankings because he's not playing.
Big deal, little deal or no deal? Doug the Tiger
Woods now has fallen out of the top one thousand
in the world golf ranking. Uh, I'm gonna say it's

(38:05):
no deal just because he hasn't played, right, Like, how
do you rank a guy who physically hasn't played golf? Yeah?
I agree, Duke actually is ranked higher than him in
the rank That right, right, Hey, big deal, a little
dealer no deal? That Lakers rookie point guard Lonzo Ball
is dealing with a calf injury and may not play

(38:26):
in tonight's Summer League title game against the Portland Trailblazers.
It's a it's a little deal, although I think he
will play because it's a title game. One thing about
lons of Ball that gets lost is his teams have
a tendency to win more than they should. I'll but
he plays tonight. Should the NBA would like to see
him in that top matchup. I'm big deal, a little
deal or no deal that John Ramo spent his entire

(38:47):
Sunday watching baseball. Yes, a baseball driple edder Doug Dodgers, Marlins,
followed by Angels, Rays, and then I believe Yankees Red
Sox big deal, little dealer, no deal and John Romos
is way to spend the s It's a big deal,
not because the the Dodger's hottest team in baseball or
Red Sox Yankees from on boy holiday. I don't know
what he was doing on the basse path, but he
did hit a home run, right The most important thing?

(39:08):
But why are you watching Angels Marlins? Did you did
you fall asleep? Was that the period of time when
you were asleep? We have a little time is actually
Angels Tampa Bay raid still again even worse. I have
an Angel fan and I wouldn't watch that. That was
Scott leap sack. Bad news for the Cowboys because this

(39:29):
tense as tends to happen. What happened was Zeke Elliott.
We'll try and find out next in the Doug Gotlip Show,
Booming Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show back State Side for
you here on Fox Sports Radio. We got a great lineup.
I've said it. I've said it since I actually since
I signed here. Right, you get Dan Patrick at Colin Cowherd,

(39:51):
whitlocking for Cowherd today. I'll be in for Cowherd for
the rest of the week. You got Clay Travis, who's
gonna start some sort of fire every morning. Right. You
got the Undisputed if you listen on Sirius XM satellite
radio filming him for Steve Gorman today will be Um,
Chris Brussard and Rob Parker. Uh. You got j T

(40:11):
the Brick. I love his show, even though I disagree
with some of his takes. I get Ben Mueller's show.
That Mallas Show is really really good. I listened to
that quite often. And then of course, Um Jason Smith
on overnights at how about a Fresca? And then how
about a Fresca? That's this Twitter handle. Listen, you either
have your name on your Twitter handle or have something

(40:32):
that I will remember. He's got the other right, he's
got the formula some people have like blank underscore slash
half to you know. Uh, but Buyer has been filling in.
Buyer does a great job. He'll be firing for me tomorrow, right, yeah,
Byron Jonas in tomorrow. Sweet. They do an awesome job.
I know Twitter loves those guys more than they're like me.

(40:54):
Uh but I got three year contract boys, Okay, so listen,
I'll keep the seat warm for you an event. Actually,
the Dan Buyer Jonas takeover will will be will be complete. Now.
I this is like I never I've never done. I've
never said to any boss, hey, I want this guy
or whatever to fill in for me. But I also
I wanted to be good. And when I've listened, when

(41:16):
I haven't been on and my buddies that listen, they're
all like, it's good. It's different than you, but it's good,
which is great. And those guys are talented. Of course
you can hear Dan Buyer on the weekends. Well, I'm
not sure he's like Ramos. We don't actually ever give
him a day off. That's probably why Ramos was coma
toast on his couch watching baseball Triple Ladder. That's the
real reason to and Buyer that that Ramos Ramos worked
so hard that he was physically unable to actually change

(41:39):
the channel his hands. He has carpal tunnel from pressing
buttons as well as being in managers me in your
manager of meeting today. I don't know if we haven't today, Dan, Yes,
you guys. Have you guys gotten the raises that I've
asked for you to get yet? Have you asked I get?
I asked on radio that you both. Oh yeah, they're
on that for sure. Definitely absolutely in the works right now.

(42:05):
I gotta. I just got a text taking it under advisement.
That's better than that. That actually is. No, that's what,
that's what. That's what. No, sounds like promos. I hate,
I hate to all Right, So here's the story about
the Cowboys. This is the way it works with the Cowboys.
Right it's something bad is nevitably followed by something good. Right. Oh, No,

(42:28):
something good is in evitly followed by something bad. Isn't
that the way it kind of works for the Cowboys?
And here it is. TMZ Sports has obtained a video
of a victim moments after he was allegedly struck in
the face by an assailant at Clutch bar in Dallas.
The person who shot the video tells TMZ that the

(42:51):
man was involved in a verbal altercation with a woman
who was in Ezekiel Elliott's party, and Ezekiel got involved.
Witnesses say she saw Ezekiel. A witness says she saw
Ezekiel punched the man, corroborating the story the victim's friend
told police. However, cops at the scene could not confirm
Zeke was the attacker, and he has not been arrested

(43:12):
or charged with the crime. In the video, you can
see the victiim writhing in pain on the ground. We're
told he was on the ground for a few minutes.
An ambulance arrived the scene. You can see the man
being treated by paramedics. He was transported nearby hospital. Elliott's
people will only say that the running back was not
arrested and no complaint has been filed against him. The

(43:32):
NFL is trying to understand the facts in the situation.
Uh A. An earlier report said that the Dallas p
D now says it does have a record of an
incident clutched bar. There's some connection with Ezekie Elliott. It
happened at Cops at the bar spoke to a man
who said his nose was just broken. But the man

(43:53):
appeared to be extremely intoxicating, couldn't remember who hit him.
Man's friend said it was the Dallas Cowboys running back.
All right, A couple of couple of thoughts here, right.
I know we want to paint it as a zuk.
It's a bad guy and you're not supposed to punch two,
But we also don't know what happened, Like I don't
know if it's Zike Elliott's job to right the wrong.
But the dude's drunk and he's saying things to a

(44:17):
woman like I don't know, Like I've never punched somebody
standing up for a woman. But I've also never been
in a situation where like where it was like, what
was it Rocky three? Right? Was it Rocky three? Mr?
T play clever langing in Rocky three? Right? Hey woman,
hey woman? Right when that that was Rocky three? That

(44:38):
was Clever Lang? Remember clever Lang? What's your prediction the
fight pain? Right? Remember he was, hey woman, Hey woman,
starts running game at Rockies woman, and that's why Rocky
was rock O pulls up. We do a book, my girl. Right.
So I've never been in that situation, Like we all
like to think that in that situation, if somebody defames

(44:59):
the vert shoes of a woman that we're with, that
will stand up for him and we'll come out of
will launch the haymaker. And you know, it's like the
Coward of the County. If you guys ever heard the
song the Coward of the County by Kenny Rogers, Right,
if you haven't, you should, that's a that's that is

(45:20):
an old country song, but good only but a good
rob It's only but a goody, right. One of Kenny
Rodgers greatest hits, Yeah, greatest hits is the Gambler, Right,
that's like his greatest song, and that's among like the
other top five. So like, look, I'm not defending Ezeke Elliott.
I'm guessing he probably punched, like reasonable people say, like,

(45:43):
but here's the other part. At least he's got a
good right hand, right, Like, Okay, maybe I'm a half
full sort of guy, but I would like to think
that a guy built like ezekiellett strongest Ezekiel it is.
If he punches a guy, the guy can't remember who
punched him, that's a sign it was a pretty good punch.

(46:04):
So I know that we're supposed to be a civilized society.
I know Ezekiel is supposed to have a buffer between
him and the rest of society, is supposed to have
some sort of handler who handles his his business, and
he's supposed to keep his hands to himself. So and
I think again, the problem becomes wicked Zeki Elliott is
we take the accusation that was not proven to have

(46:27):
happened with a woman. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but
it was not proven to have happened with the woman,
so he was not suspended for it. And then you
take these accusations to which it feels like this is
something happening in Dallas. The guess is that even if
it did happen, somebody gets him, Like, dude, do you
really want to speak out against Zeke Gilley. I got
money on the Cowboys to hit the over and win

(46:48):
some losses this year. We need Zeke in the back
in the backfield. But this is a very Dallas Cowboys story.
This always seems to happen with the Cowboys. Something bad
ad follows something really good, right, Like last year was
a really good season. They thought it was gonna be
a disaster because they lost Romo. They find out they

(47:09):
got dak zeke is Uh is as good or better
than advertised in all three facets of being running back, running, pass, blocking,
past bro catching the ball in the backfield like he's terrific.
And they avoided the nonsense or whatever of And when
I say nonsense, I don't mean that any woman's accusation
is nonsense. It's just nonsense to ever be involved in

(47:30):
any sort of altercation with a woman. They avoided that,
and now this, so do I think it's a major issue.
I can't. I can't collaborate the two. I understand that
mentally everybody is going to do that, right, but that's
not the way it really works, nor should it work.

(47:53):
We don't know what happened with the woman previously, and
we don't know or assume. But I think it's actually
fair to assume he did punch the guy. And I'll
tell you why. It's not because the guy's friend said
he didn't he punched him, or yeah, here's why. Um

(48:14):
Ezekiel's people said only that the running back was not arrested,
that no complaint had been filed. Right. They did not
say he did not touch a guy. He did not
put his hands in a guy. This absolutely didn't happen, period, Right,
Because if you didn't punch somebody and somebody says you
punched him, then the proper response is, EZEKIELI didn't punch anybody,
and I'm not the only one thing in that right,

(48:36):
Like Ryan Music, did you punch somebody in the club
last night? Not? Okay? Wait no, don't you want to
say that you weren't arrested and that no complaint has
been filed. No, because you didn't punch somebody in the club.
Was like, well, you know, listen, I can't speak to
an ongoing investigation. Yes you can. If you didn't do something,

(48:56):
you can say, hey, guess what, I didn't do something.
That doesn't That doesn't mean that the facts are looking
like Look, could the facts be that the guy was
way out of line and he was doing the mr
t um Mr t in Rocky three? Hey woman, Hey woman, right,

(49:16):
and the guy had it coming to him. Here's another line,
one of my favorite lines from a movie Unforgiven. You
know the line ramos, we all got to come into
us sometimes. Huh, what a great movie? Who is the
young guy? Who is the big talker, but but Pete himself.
But it came time to to shoot the guys. That

(49:38):
guy I thought he was miscast, right, Like if you
have Morgan Freeman and you have Clint Eastwood and then
some no name actor, like I feel like that it
is just such a miss. It's such a that was
bad casting. Anyway, we don't know the facts of it,
Like maybe the guy totally had to come to like
every once in a while, dud's gotta come into him

(49:59):
and I I don't, I don't. I don't necessarily think
you have to suspend a Zeke Elliott if he punched
a guy who had it coming to him in the club.
But this kind of feels like a Cowboys thing. Great season,
high hopes, young up and coming quarterback in Jettison Romo.
You got a superstar running back that everybody thinks can
be better than Emmett Smith, and then he knocks some

(50:21):
dude out in the club because he was holler and
at his woman. That guy probably be drinking his breakfast
for the next couple of weeks. Speaking of which, this
is a funny look. I'll tweet this picture. I got
a video of a guy we played against the Canadian
team when we were in Israel. Uh music, I didn't

(50:44):
tell you this. One of the bench players from Canada
had broken his nose. But he also wore a yama.
Guys don't wear not everybody wears yam because only a
couple of guys where you like yet to be were
usually orthodox guys, extremely conservative guys wear yamakas when they play.
So we called we don't know the guy's name, we
called him face mask Yamica because he had the rare
combination of the face mask and the yamaka at the

(51:07):
same time. It was a really really terrible look, quite honestly,
quite honestly, But wait till you see the video of
him in the club. Amazing, amazing, and you won't be alone.
You won't be surprised that he's alone dancing at the
club when you see him dancing at the club. But
we can all agree, Zeke, probably not to do it

(51:28):
out right? Right, When do we get to the point
to where I don't want people punching other people? But
when do we get to this part to where a
guy punches somebody and it's the end of the world.
N I guess the problem is you punch a guy.
You don't know if he's gonna go to his car
and get his gun right. So it feels like Zeke

(51:52):
Yellet's got a strong right hand and not a very
good defense. And there's probably video of it. And that's
why his lawyers or his people didn't say this absolutely
didn't happen, because if it happened in a bar, there's
like the video of it happening in a bar. Albert
Brier on Dave Gettleman getting fired, plus Kirk Cousins, will

(52:12):
the contract get done as we're in the waning moments
of that, and Levi on Bell We got franchise tag
Ease trying to negotiate long term deals and the general
manager of the Carolina Panthers fired at the in the
middle of July. This is weird, well, I ask Albert Brier.
He joins us up coming next on The Doug out
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(52:34):
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it all. Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Albert Brier
is uh is wait a matter of fact, you can

(52:54):
put Albert Brier through because I want to read him
something that I'm sure he's already read because he's awesome.
H m m QB. The MMQB dot com is the
website for all your NFL news. We're gonna ask them
about all the stuff today. But thanks for joining u out.
But I want to read you what who? Who just
put this one out? This is the Washington is from
the Washington Redskins website. Bruce Allen, who is there? Uh?

(53:15):
The President, I believe put this out? Uh And I'm
quoting here for people who haven't read it. After discussions
with Kirk, that's Kirk Cousins, quarterback of the Redskins, face
to face over the weekend. I want to clarify by
our negotiations for this year, Kirk Cousins is obviously important
to our team fans, and they deserve to know where
things stand. Our goals. Assigned Kirk to a long term

(53:36):
contract with the final objective of having him finished his
career with Redskins. On May second, right after the draft,
we made Kirk and offer that include the highest fully
guaranteed amount upon signing for a quarterback in NFL history,
fifty three million dollars and a guaranteed total of seventy
two million dollars for injury. The deal would have made
him at least the second highest blade player by average
per year in NFL history, But despite our repeated attempts,

(53:59):
we have not received any offer. For Kirk's agents, Kirk
has made clear he first played a year to your basis,
and we would like to uh, we would have liked
to work out long term contract for the season. We
accept these decisions. We both have high hopes for a
great year. YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. Albert, what's your what's
your take? Not just on what happened with the negotiations,
but the fact that the Redskins decided to make public

(54:20):
their actual offer. Yeah, you know, I know it's and
and look, I know it's confusing to some people. Why
you look at the when you look at that and
you say, why would he pass it up? Right? And
to me, there are a couple of things at work here. First,
you have to understand what he's walking away from if
he does a deal with the Redskins, right, and that's
why it was gonna be so hard for the Redskins
to find a place that would satisfy and financially. There

(54:42):
are three conclusions to this on the on the tag
for Cousins. One, they tag him again next year, then
he makes fifty fifty eight million dollars over two years.
That's twenty nine million a year as a free agent
at age thirty. And the second conclusion is transition tag
him next year. That was it's his floor at fifty
two million over the next two years or he's twenty

(55:03):
six million per and he can test the market next
year as a in essence restricted free agent with the
Redskins holding matching rights. And then the third potential conclusion
is twenty million dollars for this year and then you
go to the market next year is an unrestricted free agent.

(55:23):
And he knows that out there are the San Francisco
forty Niners who will be looking for a quarterback in
team with Kyle Shannon and the coach, and potentially the
Los Angeles Rams if things don't go well with Jared
Goff or Sean McVeigh is. And so you got to
his two X coordinators out, there's head coaches and other spots.
It's really it was always going to be really overheard.

(55:44):
Toe for the Redskins will overcome all of that. On
top of that, there's an emotional part to this too,
which is it took the Redskins a while to acknowledge
financially that that he is the franchise quarterback than he
is worth building around. And it's easy for things to
be good in May and June when the team's trying
to court you and get you signed to a long

(56:06):
term deal. It's a little bit more difficult, you know,
when you're breaking in new receivers and you're breaking in
a new coordinator, and you've got all these other factors
kind of playing in and the season's going on. And
so this in essence gives gives Cousins a chance to
do to the Redskins what they did to him last year.
Wait and see if he's at a franchise quarterback. Now
he's he's they've acknowledged that, and now he gets to

(56:29):
see what it's like on the other end. And so
there's just a lot going on here. This is always
going to be complicated, and that's why we are where
we are. Today Withskins right a year again, was Cousins,
you know, set to potentially hit the market in albert
we are joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show. Okay,
but if you want to play a one term, one
year deal, why not just sign a one year deal

(56:52):
instead of a franchise tag deal with some guarantee money
so that the team can have more money to go
spend elsewhere. Like what why not? I mean there's no
no counter offer? Like, I get that you want to
hit the market because every year if you hit the market,
if you're betting on yourself, you're going to get more money.
Salaries continue to escalate. There's the freedom of potentially going
to San Francisco and reuniting with Kyl Shan And like,
I I understand that position of strength, But why not

(57:15):
do your team solid? Did you get better pieces around you?
That's the only flaw I can see in where Cousins is.
Do you see? Like the thing was that? So you
can't I mean unless you put a bunch of fake
years on the end of the Like, there's just nothing
you can do there, you know. Like and apart up
to a large part of Cousins leverage is tied to
the franchise tag because they tag him again and it's

(57:38):
a hundred and forty of the last one, because that
would be a third tag, and so um, you know,
it's harder obviously to manage the number is one of
the guys in a one year deal and you have
to build fake years into the deal. But so much
of cousins who leverage is tied to the tag. He'd
be foolish to give that up. Albert Beer joining us
on the Doug Gotlip Show. Why was Dave Gentleman fired?

(57:59):
I things about relationships as much as anything else, you know,
And I know people in that building have and looked
to be clear. I mean, this was a stunner, you know.
And I know coaches and scouts inside that building their
own vacation right now. We're calling and texting each other
over the course for the last few hours trying to
figure out what went down. Those guys all recognized that

(58:20):
the relationship between Gettleman and and the owner, Jerry Richardson
had become strained over the last few months. No one
thought it gotten to this point though. Um there was
some disagreement over the plan for UM, but that would
considered workable. I think more notable here is how you
know some of the bad feelings between Richardson and Gettleman

(58:43):
were coming because there were bad feelings between Gettleman and
the players and the way that he'd been hardline a
lot of contract negotiations. And remember he was brought in
there in part six the team's cap situation. And there
was one that really kind of stuck out in the
conversations that I had this afternoon about it, and that
was the one involved Greg Olsen. Um. You know, that
was another one that Gentleman took a hard line on.

(59:05):
He's got two years left on his deal. Gettleman didn't
want to extend to reward Olson, and Olson was a
little different because he is such a well respected member
of the team. He's a team captain. Um. And you know,
I think a lot of the guys in the locker
room look at that and say, well, things can go
south on on Greg Olson and to some degree Thomas

(59:27):
Davis too, so they can go south on me too.
I think the record that that's somehow that all wind
up flowing up to the owner and one thing leads
to another. It's hard to believe we're here, but that
that's that's it seems that's the root of it. Look,
I think Greg Olson's fantastic. We had him on a
month ago, Like I He's an incredibly valuable asset to
Cam Newton. Uh and and you know that. I think

(59:49):
the mistake they made last year was going more to
Calvin Benjamin instead of Greg Olson like they had the
year before. I thought it was a huge flaw in
the design of their offense. That said, I think he's
thirty five years old, right, Thomas Davis is in his
mid thirties as well. I don't think it's crazy to
draw a hardline stance on guys that are in their
mid thirties in the NFL. Like, I get that you

(01:00:10):
love him, but just because you love him, Like, look,
when the Patriots come hardline stands, those guys are gone.
They're they're not menching and complaining and getting the GM fire.
And I agree, you know, and and and the again.
The other part of this is that's why he was
brought in there, right there. Cap was a mess when
he got there. I'm the larger point was there's a

(01:00:31):
way to handle it, you know, And there's here's here's
the expression that that my my brother uses he's a
college basketball coaches and he says, you know what, we're
all in the people business. Like when you're your basketball coach,
your job, my job, uh, Dave Gettleman's job, and like
are are the specifics of our day to day are

(01:00:53):
very very different. But if you can't get along with people, uh,
and you can't, there's there's just ways to deliver bed news,
ways to to negotiate, and if you can't do it
that way, then ultimately, when they get the opportunity, they're
gonna get rid of view sooner than maybe your normal lifespan. Um. Yeah,
let me asked about Levian Bell and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

(01:01:15):
Obviously they went and paid Antonio Brown. Levian Bell is
a spectacular talent, but he's had some off the field issues,
some on the field injuries. Will he get a deal
done today? No? And and you know it's I think
this that the failure to get one done here is
as much logistical as anything else. And that franchise tag

(01:01:37):
numbers artificially high at twelve point one million UM and
in part that is due to the mega deal that
Adrian Peterson did all those years ago. UM. And you know,
to me it's like you look at it, and and
that's why it's always been difficult with running backs, right
like when you're when when guys are coming out of
the rookie deals, they're already the end is already in

(01:02:01):
sight for those guys. And so it's harder for guys
at those positions, at that that position to get se
contract senators for anyone else. And when the tag numbers
artificially highlight that, it creates a creates a motivator for
you know, a player like Levian Bell to not sign
and to not do a long term deal. And again,

(01:02:22):
you know, like as I said with Kirk Cousins, what
it made sense for him to do a one year
deal if Levian Bell is going to be paid at
the top of the running back market where it is
right now, that's about eight million dollars a year. So
if the let's say this dealers say we're gonna get
the highest paid running back in the NFL. We're gonna
give you eight and a half million dollars a year,
does it make sense for Levan Bell to sign that

(01:02:43):
deal that might get him seventeen million over the first
two years, or doesn't make sense for him to sit
there and just take the twelve point one million in
front of him. That's why it's hard. You know, it
makes more sense for him to do the one year
deal and then revisit this again in a year. So
I think if it has nothing to do with the Steelers,
you know, hesitancy A signed a long term deal after

(01:03:04):
everything that's happened off the field and everything else, this
has more to do with the logistics. And the logistics
really just trace right back to that artificially high franchise
tag number and the value of the player of players
in that position, particularly when they get into their mid twenties.
Albert brierre joining us. Last thing is Zeki Elliott. I'm
guessing he punched this dude in the club, right, I mean, like,

(01:03:24):
guy guy can't remember who he ate, who he ate
a fist from his buddy says it was Zeki Elliott.
Uh and Ezekiel's people I love this. The TMZ says that,
uh there, this is the Elliotts people say the running
back was not arrested and no complaint has been filed.
That that's if you if somebody says you punched something
the club and you said, hey, there's no complaint. I
wasn't arrested. That's not a denial, that's a non denial denial. Okay,

(01:03:46):
But um, how well, how do you how do you
think the NFL looks at this. Let's let's assume he
punched the guy's probably a video of it, right, But
considering there was the discussions of whatever happened the woman
over a year ago, but it never came to the
complaint level, is that brought into the discussion as to
whether or not he'll be suspended considering where there's no complaint,

(01:04:09):
there's no The NFL did investigate, but there was no
suspension from it. And Doug, we've seen where the NFL's
dragged feed on some of these decisions in the past,
and a lot of times they dragged their feet with
decisions on players who they think could wind up getting
in trouble again. And I think that's protect themselves against
the possibility that they go light on someone and then

(01:04:31):
three weeks later that guy's in trouble again and they
look like idiots because they didn't come down hard enough
on them, you know. And so whenever they make the
decision on what they're gonna do about the incident with
the woman from UM. They won't acknowledge that this is
part of the decision, but certainly they're gonna I think
you're gonna you're can assume that that that that that's
going to be part of it, and they're going to

(01:04:54):
go into this with the feeling now after what happened
over the weekend, that Ezekiel Elliott needs to stronger message
sent to him, especially when you consider the fact that
a lot of this stuff relates to questions that he
had coming out of Ohio State about his about his partying,
about the position, about the situations that he put himself in.

(01:05:14):
And when those are questions and you had to Saint
Patrick's stay parade saying earlier this year, and now you
have this UM, you can certainly surmise that he hasn't
grown past the issues that UM, you had some people,
some scouts talking before the two thousand and sixteen draft,
and my expectation at least would be that now the
NFL is gonna look at that added up to the

(01:05:36):
other one and say, this guy needs a little bit
of a message, and we're going to give it to him.
Albert Brier, I encourage you to read is I learned
more about the NFL in the last fifteen minutes than
I had on vacation or not necessarily vacation, but over
in Israel reading stuff for the last three weeks. Albert,
thanks so much. Join us the MMQB dot com, or
of course, follow him on Twitter. I enjoy your work

(01:05:57):
and I appreciate you coming on with us. All right, thanks,
doug otlip Show rolls on. Does it matter that Lonzo
ball is still not wearing Big Baller brand. I'll have
the answer for you after we find out what's trending.
Doug Ot lip Show, m Fox Sports Radio. Uh, Christophers, sorry,
and Mark Willard? What were they on yesterday? Sorry? I

(01:06:19):
was in Israel. I didn't know. I don't know what
what time slide the were down. Do you know they
might where I'm from my show? Because I wasn't on
last night. They were on ten am, so they were
on instead of the Herd ten am. Yesterday was Sunday. Oh,
yesterday was Sunday. I'm sorry, Like dude, honestly, I didn't
know today was Monday until you just told me. I
don't halfway across the word literally. Okay, so last night

(01:06:43):
at this time, what's what's ten hours forward from right now,
so it's it was eleven thirty six. I was pulling
into the airport at Ben Gurien Airport and Televisi we
played at eight o'clock. Remember there's no the game was
on TV locally, but there's no TV time outs like here,
so it moves along a little quicker. So it was
over before ten, and then at ten o'clock we were

(01:07:07):
getting our rewards, and then like a ten fifteen, we
put we posted the video, were talking to the team
in the locker room, and then we got I got
a new car at like ten fifty maybe, and literally
eleven thirty four I remember pulling, not actually eleven twenty four.
I pulled into the airport, and then I got on
a plane at one am and flew. I think it's

(01:07:28):
fifteen hours, fifteen hours NonStop, but no WiFi, which honestly,
that feels like prop plane, like you might as well
have had propellers, people smoking hot stewardesses where we could
call them stewardess is right, because it feels like the
nineteen fifties all over again. I felt like throwing on
a Madman suit and tie right and and drinking, drinking
some Scotch. Um. Actually it's not the drink he drinks.

(01:07:50):
Was drinking old fashioned, old fashioned drinking, drinking old fashion
and smoking a cigarette on the plane. That's how. That's
how back in time it felt. Anyway, Um, so forgive
me if I don't know which day is which. Brussard
and Willard are on weekends on Fox Sports Radio, So
they had LaVar Ball on yesterday on Fox Sports Radio

(01:08:11):
and they asked that Lonzo might might not play tonight.
He's not gonna play, not gonna play against the the
Portland Trailblazers. Let's go Alex Caruso is gonna get some run. Cruso.
My dad coached Caruso's dad at Creighton and Cruso good
player at A and m really improved. Gotta to year
contract with Lakers. Probably be their D League point guard

(01:08:31):
and and uh maybe maybe the third or fourth point
guard on the team. Anyway, LaVar Ball joined Bruissard and
Mark Willard yesterday and talked about a Lonzo's shoe selection.
I'm showing everybody that my boy could do whatever he
wants to do and with the Pitballer brand, if independence
he wears whatever show he feels like wearing a lot

(01:08:52):
of people want to do that, but they can't. When
you endorse by one show you better wear that one day,
tell you to wear you can't tell my boy nothing
sweet away. Um, that's literally the dumbest statement I've ever
heard from somebody trying to push a shoe brand. I mean, look,

(01:09:14):
I understand that it's spin, Like what other spin could
you possibly have because you can't spin the hey, the
shoes aren't ready. He can't spin the hey, the shoes
are crap, right, You can't spin that they're not comfortable.
He doesn't like him, He didn't he didn't feel a
good playing. You can't say that. So this is like
I almost feel like, in this particular case, the role

(01:09:35):
of Sean Spicer is played by LaVar Ball because know,
Sean Spicer is right John Spicers, like the President tweets
something and shon Spicers up there just he's up there
just making stuff up. And and basically, when you're the
spokesperson for somebody and you're trying to spin, you don't
try and take a positive note. You take the least negative.

(01:09:57):
The least negative telle like you're right. It's like with
the health care when the healthcare bill that the Trump
proposed got rejected Like no, no no, no, wasn't rejected. It
didn't actually go through to a vote, Like yeah, but
didn't go through a vote because they weren't gonna get
it through Like no, no no, no, no, no, it wasn't
it did it didn't go through to a vote Like
then then okay, Like that's really what LaVar Ball is

(01:10:18):
doing here, Like, look, the thing is only Big Baller brand.
Do you not have to wear a Big Baller brand? Uh? Yeah?
In the back? That doesn't make any sense. So you're
trying to get the rest of America to pay two
and a half three times what it costs for another
pair of sneakers, and the guy who's the signature player

(01:10:39):
for those sneakers is allowed to and chooses to not
wear them in the chosen sport in which the shoes
are sold upon, Like, yes, that does not make any sense.
On the other hand, I don't know what other explanation
he could probably give. Can you think of any other

(01:11:00):
possible answer that? Like the only like honestly the to me,
to me, if I'm LaVar Ball, I might actually go
the completely negative route. I might I might go the
it's not you, it's me. That's what LaVar should do.

(01:11:22):
Ramos asked me the question, asked me, I'll be I
can't do LaVar's voice that probably talk like this voice.
I can't do it. Okay, So I'm You're good. You
ask me why a Lonzo ball isn't What's or what's
why a Lonzo Ball isn't wearing the Big Ball of branches,
Mr Ball, I have a question for you. Yes, go ahead,
John Ramos, I really respect you as a radio host
Fox Sport Trading. By the way, why isn't a Lonzo

(01:11:45):
wearing the Big Ball brand shoes? I will tell you
the answer that, John Ramos, The problem is me. I
was so excited about the Big Ball of Brand shoe.
I was so excited about my son getting ready for
the NBA draft that I put KRT ahead of Horse.
I announced the shoes we got the shoot. The shoes
weren't ready. Remember, shoes are developed over months upon months

(01:12:07):
apund guns. For Game one of the NBA, a Lonzo
will be wearing Big Baller brand. Okay, but just like
NBA players have to go through summer league and have
to go through preseason training camp and then the preseason games,
so too does the Big Baller brand. The problem is
not Alonzo. The problem is me that I was so
excited I put the shoes out there and people expecting

(01:12:28):
where the shoes, and the shoes aren't ready. They're still
prototype shoes in development. And if you look at cars,
the prototypes are not necessarily what the car is. Prototypes
are the best possible image of what they think they
could be, but then the reality of the car is
quite different. The same is true with shoes. You've only
seen the process work out in public, which happens in

(01:12:50):
private with some of the other shoe brands like Nike
and Adidas and under over which is a better answer
the one you just gave. It's a more into, actually
honest answer because you're also self deprecating, right, You're giving
blamed yourself. People are gonna be like, yeah, what makes sense? Like, look,

(01:13:11):
I'll give you Last night, we're playing in this gold
medal game and we're up eighteen points and my best player, UH,
gets a little selfish, takes a bad shot and then
he doesn't play defensity fouls and I take him out
of the game, and uh, other guys started to getting
a little selfish, We got all worked up, got down
to six. We end up winning by eight points, never

(01:13:31):
got below six. But after the game, I told them
that was my fault. It was my fault. I made
some subs I probably shouldn't have made. I could have
called time out to different opportunities. None of that is yours,
That is all I mean. Now. I didn't turn the
ball over, I didn't take bad shot, I didn't get
sped up. But when it comes to leadership, sometimes you've

(01:13:51):
got to take it upon yourself, all upon the sword yourself.
And in this particular case, it actually is LaVar's fault. Right.
He was the one who promoted the shoes as big
ball of brand and four they'll be ready everybody by
Lonzo Ball, greatest player ever, Cterri, Centri, etcetera. And some
of it actually was my fault last night. I did
make some mistakes. Every coach makes a mistake, every players

(01:14:12):
make mistakes. But his inability to either articulate the issues
with developing his shoes or simply be honest uh has
made him do nothing more than a hype man, nothing
more than a Sean Spicer clothe Way, do you hear

(01:14:33):
what Mike vic said on the Herd today and had
some interesting thoughts on Ezeki Elliott and is off the
field issues. You'll hear what the Fox said next. What
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(01:14:57):
Every day on this show, we like to bring back
something that me or the crew we heard early on
Fox Sports Radio and earlier means anywhere in the last
twenty four hours. Right and um, you know you picked
the show from overnight with Ben Maller to Jason Smith,
Steve Gorman Sports just quick programming. Note if you like
Chris Broussard and Rob Park, you'll hear them on for

(01:15:17):
the Gorman Boys upcoming following this show. So that's in
an hour and ten minutes special fill in for him
where Stan Patrick show Giz in the heard with calling
Calherd uh and uh and Clay Travis in the morning,
and we we wrap it up in a segment we
call and now he's got carpal tunnel. He just slow

(01:15:41):
slow on the draw. That's that's John Ramo's Mike Vick
was on The Herd to Date hosted by Jason Whitlock,
and he had some interesting thoughts on Zeke Yellit and
his off the field issues. Take a listen. Obviously, it's
should be some concern because Zeke's a young superstar in
his lead and at some point he's going to have
to act appropriately. We don't want to see a young
town on him spend a ton of time on the

(01:16:01):
sidelines for self inflicted reasons. He has a lot of
potential to be the best running back to ever played
the game when you look at the type of talent
and the team that he's on and everything surrounding the
Dallas Cowboys. He has to grow fast. It's a gift
and the curse in a sense. One years old with
millions of dollars, and it's all for people to tell
you what to do. These guys gotta understand that. You
know that they're the future of the National Football League.

(01:16:23):
But the people in the high power are not gonna
continue to tolerate the things that happen off the field,
and it's such a distraction it has to be contained.
It's it's fascinating how Mike Vick has grown right like
he is the embodiment of what it's supposed to happen
in the rehabilitation process when somebody goes to jail. Is

(01:16:44):
he like he went from being the poster child for immature,
too much money, uh and not accountable to a guy
that can speak, he can he can do. Um. I
have a friend who says this, and Mike Vick has
a rare ability to go what you call uptown in downtown,
right Like uptown is where the suits are, and Mike

(01:17:04):
Vick has all of our respects because of his talent.
But then he can go downtown and speak to like
he's the one guy who the league should hire to
talk with and meet with Ezeki Ellott. Hey, bro, you
need to slow it down. Okay, you need to understand
you can lose everything I did. I was the face
of the NFL and then I was in jail for

(01:17:24):
a dog fighting ring that I that I denied my
boys actually had so uh. I first of all, I
think he's right. I don't think it's terrible that I
don't think it's terrible that Ezeki Elliott might have punched
a dude in the club if the club gov says

(01:17:45):
like I'm I'm a reasonable person. Guys says something to
a woman that you're either close with or you're hooking
up with, or she's with you in the club, and
you knock him out, like I wouldn't do it, but
I know that there are a lot of guys that
would do it. A lot of guys like yeah, man.
Sometimes guys haven't come into him. But when you put
together the litany of allegations and things, which like he's
only been the league one year, we had the Sat
Patrick's Parade, which is not that big a deal. You

(01:18:07):
have the thing with the woman which might have happened,
might not have like at some point like hey, if
this thing isn't the thing that blows up in your
face and cause you to lose the season or lose
your freedom, like the next thing might be. I don't
know how it happened with vic. I think some of
it is he was so publicly shamed, humiliated, lost all
his money, lost his job, lost some of his respect

(01:18:29):
in the league, and maybe some of his self respect.
I don't know what happened. And it's the biggest problem
with with with prison in our country is the recipitous rate.
How many people return to prison, but like I'm I'm okay,
saying like, if if there's ever been a guy more
rehabilitated based upon his time in jail, then Mike Vick,

(01:18:49):
I'd like to see it. I think he's an outstanding
spokesman for how you can still right the wrongs of
your life. You know, it sounds easy to be like
the Patriots, but it's a lot hard than you think.
The Panthers found out. Tell you how next in the
Dug Gotlip Show? What up? But you Dug Gotliep Show?
Fox Sports Radio. It is just another bomb track. M

(01:19:16):
m m m m m. We got so much to
get to. Jeff Schwartz is gonna join his former NFL
lineman who lives in Charlotte, North Carolina, get his thoughts
on Dave Gentleman being fired. Plus, wait, do you what
Bruce Allen did the Redskins? He's president, isn't I believe

(01:19:36):
he's the president of the Washington Redskins. The president of
the Washington Redskins. What he did today telling the world
not just that Kirk Cousins is not going to sign
a long term contract, but he gave us the details
of the Washington redskins offered to Kirk Cousins and why
it wasn't accepted a fascinating way. Well, we'll talk to
Jeff Schwartz about you know, you know, there's there's people

(01:19:59):
you want to be like, Like I always remember the
the Gate Ray commercial, like Mike. If I could be
like Mike, let me like Mike, like Mike. All Right,
everybody says that they want to be like somebody, but
it's a lot harder to be like that person than
you think, right, Like, I'd like to be like Ryan Seacrest. Right,

(01:20:20):
first of all, I don't have as good a hair
or hairline as Ryan Seacrest. But Seacrest I respect him
because he's one of those guys that's been He's really
good as a live He's good at everything, but he's
really good as a live host. Like when there's a
distinct difference. For example, when he hosted American Idol and
Nick Cannon did America's Got Talent, right, Like Nick Cannon

(01:20:43):
is terrible and the like look, and I know Nick
Cannon is a comedian, but look, if you're going to
be a host of a reality show, you've got to
be a good host. You're judge in a completely different light.
Seacrest obviously with these years and years of radio experience,
I've always thought was awesome and ad living as well
as reading prompter and just had just a really good
feel for how to handle the whole thing. It's great.

(01:21:05):
And he's good as in as an f M d
J forever and he's I think he's pretty good with
with with Kelly Rippa. But if you want to be
like him like that dude never sleeps ever. All he
does is work guy's reality show. He's got that business.
He's by colst. He lives in l A, works in
New York. Is here like everybody says, and you're like, well,

(01:21:26):
for what what he pays, I'd love to do it,
Like okay, everybody says that, and then all of a
sudden you're like, I didn't day off. I'm so tired
right now. I tell this about guys that want to
like I want to be I want to be. This
guy's an athlete, like, do you know have any like
Steph Curry, Like, do you have any idea how hard
he has to have worked in a gym to be

(01:21:47):
that good of a shooter? The amount of hours forget
about the does he like, does he have more size
than half of America? Sure, he's six ft two or so,
but he's also put together. Like all of that is
work ethic, unbelieve, but work ethic. Everybody says they want
to be like I want my organization to be like
the Patriots. Why can't my organization be like the Patriots?

(01:22:08):
Because the Patriots it just works. And you can say, well,
we don't have Belichick. That's fair, Belichicks are great coach
is either is he so much better at X and
O and than everybody else? Like maybe is Tom Brady
that much better as QUI? Well, part of it is
that they always have their books in order, okay, And

(01:22:30):
there is the proper pecking lood, right, there's Belichick, there's
the rest of the front office and coaching staff, then
there's Brady, and then there's the rest of the players
kind of on down right, like there's it's a totem pole,
he's the top totalm pole. There's there's there's never any
question about who's in charge, and there's a proper chain
of command. And we're like, why don't that work elsewhere?

(01:22:52):
Because it's kind of hard case in point Dave Gettleman
so key mind. Dave Gettleman four years ago took over
with the Carolina Panthers and there their salary cap. Their
cap was utter an abject disaster. It was bad. So
Jared Richardsons, the owners like going there. Jerryson does have
a big Southern voice, is a former player, big old

(01:23:14):
going there and fix it, Like, all right, we're gonna
go fix it. So you get to work on fixing it.
And I guess you'd say two seasons ago, right, it's
a year and a half. They go undefeated until the
next last game of the year. They lose two games
the entire season, one the next last game of the
year and the other one in the Super Bowl to

(01:23:35):
the dever Broncos. They lost two games. They played nineteen
football games and lost two. Turn around the next year
he has to. He allows josh Um Norman to go
to the Redskins free agent, want too much money. They're gone.
They replaced him with two rookies who do get beat.

(01:23:57):
But part of the reason they got beat. The pass
rush wasn't as good. Uh, their past protection wasn't as good.
Cam Newton wasn't as good. The running game wasn't as good.
And here's the other one, they played a much more
difficult schedule. They played a super easy schedule when they
nearly went undefeated. They played a much more difficult schedule,
and Cam wasn't as good. And now after addressing all

(01:24:18):
of their free agent concerns and handling the draft and awaiting,
we don't know what Cam Newton's gonna be like as
he had Uh he had rotator cuff surgery. That seems
problematic for a quarterback. Right. Anyway, they fired Dave Gentleman,
and the reason brought up is, hey, you know he
it blew up these contract negotiations with Greg Olsen, who's

(01:24:39):
in his mid thirties, and with um who's the linebacker,
Thomas Davis, right, Like I even heard about, Well, they
got rid of John Beason a couple of years ago,
went to the Giants. Like John Beason was over the hill.
They were better when they got rid of John. John
Beason was a great player, got hurt a couple of
times he left. Their defense was the best in the NFL. Like,

(01:25:00):
and now you're mad because they got rid of John
they trade John Beason or kind of midyear he went
to the with the Giants, Like it's hard to be
the Patriots because the Patriots greg Olsen has two years
left in his deal. If he wanted to deal with
the Patriots, they would say cool and they would trade
him where they got him. That's what they do. I
like Greg Olson, he's a great player, but he's thirty five.

(01:25:23):
You don't do a long term deal. Maybe I'm off
on this. I just feel like Jerry Richardson, the owner
of the former player likes to be liked and likes
the general manager should be loved in the locker room.
And sometimes you make really hard decisions because for the
betterment of the club and the betterment for the over
for the for the club financially, she can pay more

(01:25:44):
players instead of playing an individual player more money. And
unless you have the complete backing of the owner, the
general manager can't be what Belichick is in patriot Land,
which is he's the head of the totem pole. He
makes decision everybody else falls in life. Jeff Schwartz join
just on the Doug Otip Show. You should follow him
on Twitter because immediately after the firing, he got out

(01:26:05):
of his pool and he held like a live live
Q and a right, that's what you were doing. Were
swimming when this happened. Yeah, I swim on Mondays, Wednesdays
and Fridays from like twelve to one, like a real
swim class. So I jumped out and I saw that
get him and got fired. I couldn't believe it. I mean,
eight days away from camp. Um, it makes no sense
to fire him right now? Okay? So uh, I mean

(01:26:28):
this has to be like a person. But do you
agree with my premise that some of the moves that
are unpopular, but they're unpopular with you know, with big
name players who might be a little bit longer too
for the betterment of the club or at least by
Gettleman's perspective. Yes, this this firing had to be emotional.
There's something that happened with him and Mr Richardson, the

(01:26:48):
Panther's owner. You know, Mr Richardson is loyal to the
players that he really likes, Thomas Davis, greg Olson, guys
that are in contract negotiations really right now. He loves
E Smith, Josh Norman. Um, I don't know how he
thought about D'Angel Williams, but I'm sure that um, you know,
he loved him as well. So I think this is
an emotional decision because Gettleman checked off every box this

(01:27:12):
offseason for what they needed to do to improve. UM.
So he's not being fired based off of his you
know there's twenties six team basically rebuild of the team
at certain positions. He's being fired I think because you
all these these players want deals and Getleman's not going
to do it because his loyalty is too winning. His
loyalty is not really to the Panthers players. So how

(01:27:33):
does this affect the Panthers you think in the in
the in the in themmediate future, Well, they're GM and
waiting was Brandon Bean who is now in Buffalo, So
they don't really have anyone in the house now to
replace him. I mean, I'm sure they'll come up with somebody.
I don't expect them to hire from outside, especially so
close to the season. You know that player wanted, you
know that player that that that general manager want to

(01:27:54):
come in and evaluate the roster and and make changes,
and this is not the time of year to do that.
Um So they'll probably hire from within for the intern.
But you know there are some guys who need extensions now.
Trade Turner the right guards of co Bowl right guard
he's really good. Uh. If you don'ta pay him now,
you're probably not gonna land him and keep them. Um,
you know there's other decisions has to be made, you know,
Calvin Benjamin, what do you do with him? Um? So

(01:28:17):
it's gonna interesting what they do. I just I just
I feel like you could have gotten something worked out,
um with Thomas and with Greg Olsen's kind of around
the GM if it really was what the owner wanted. Uh.
The last thing I want to ask you about was
what's happening in Washington, d C. I don't I don't know. Again,
I know you hopped out of the pool and you
talked about gentleman, But did you see what the Washington

(01:28:40):
Redskins put out on their website. Yes, it's it's complete Um,
it's not outright lie, but it's not the truth of
they're trying to spin in their direction and it's completely
false about what they think they offered him. Okay, let
me let me for people who don't know stug Outlive show,
Fox Sports Radio, Jeff Swartz joining us form an NFL lineman.
Of course you need to need to follow him on

(01:29:01):
Twitter because he's incredibly interactive. Um. And uh, it's at
Jeff Schwartz. That's a Jeff with a G. By the way, Geoff,
if you want at Jeff Schwartz. Um, okay, So what
the Redskins put out there is, Look, we talked with
Kirk Kirk cousins of the weekend, but on May sewo
right after the draft, we made Kirk and offer that

(01:29:22):
included the highest fully guaranteed amount upon signing for a
quarterback in the NFL in NFL history, fifty three million
and a guaranteed total of seventy three million for injury.
The deal would have made him at least the second
highest paid player by average per year in NFL history.
Kirk made it clear that he prefers to play in
a year to your basis, and we would like to
work out long term deal, but we accept his decision.
Why is that so much spin and not the truth? Well,

(01:29:46):
he was were supposed to make twenty three point nine
million this year, so million. Let's say, so, you're basically
giving him one extra year on this contract at a
price that's barely above what he would make if he
stayed any transition tag him or even if they if
they franchised him again. Um, that would be even more
than the fifty three million they guaranteed him. So they

(01:30:07):
basically gave him a two year deal with one of
those years already basically locked in the stone, because well,
you negotiate with a player who has a franchise tag,
you know, you negotiate off the tag numbers, because that's
kind of the set balundaries of where the contract could
be if you tag the person again or obviously this year.
So the basically game a two year deal with one

(01:30:28):
of those you know, one of those years already guaranteed.
And this is a guy who's supposed your franchise quarterback,
and I guess he's not. I think he's played this perfectly.
Cousins knows he has all the leverage here, um, And
I think he'll walk next year. He'll make twenty nine
to thirty million a year from somebody who needs a quarterback,
maybe San Francisco. Um. But I do wonder if Washington

(01:30:48):
trades him now that he basically did not sign a
long term deal. But then you're basically signaling that you're
given up on this season, um, which they might be eventually,
because they're gonna, let you know, let some thing to
go out for this year. Yeah, it's really fascinating. The
only part I would disagree with you on whether or
not he has all the leverage is if he was
really invested in staying with the Redskins, you signed a

(01:31:11):
long term deal, because now that brings up some cap
space for them to put better pieces around him, as
opposed to the twenty four million he's set to make.
That's a hard and fast cap number, and that hurts
the ability to fill out the roster. Sure, but which
players would they have gone after if you you know, theoretically,
if he's found a long term deal that and he
got twenty four million this year, you know that would

(01:31:32):
be some sort of signing bonus and we pro raded out.
So let's say his base salary this year would have
been ten million instead of twenty four with the fourteen million,
who you're gonna get? I mean, I think that's yeah,
it sounds great in theory, but that means Washington has
to spend the money, and I don't see why he
should take less than market value, especially his kind of
his career and his career path. I mean, he's not

(01:31:53):
a top ten quarterback or it's like twelve fifty quarterback
I mean, I think he should go for all the
money and worry about other other stuff. Honestly, it's funny,
that's exactly what I said. I said, Look, I mean
he wants top tier money, and he might get close
to top tier money, but the truth is he's twelve.
I think I said twelve to eighteen, but twelve to
fifteen is probably considering how he's played. Uh, it's it's
kind of fascinating to see how guys who you know,

(01:32:15):
Richard Sherman came out and said last week, you know,
guys need to strike in order to get guaranteed deals.
I mean, look, you get guaranteed deals if you're willing
to take short term deals. And now Cousins is not
in a position uh that that gets hurt as much
as other positions, but it would be fast. And to
see on guys who gamble on themselves, that's essentially what
he's doing, betting on themselves. How that ultimately pays out well,

(01:32:37):
the guaranteed contract, uh is fascinating because you know it's
non negotiating. The c B A for NBA and MLB
and I think hockey as well, they just have come
to a determination. That's the where their contracts are you
know you mentioned quarterback basically cuttings, taking less for a
guaranteed entire contract, which is what it had to start
with a quarterback. The problem is there's no one sent

(01:32:57):
it for the quarterback to do this. So let's take
Derek Carr five years, twenty five million. You know, let's
say he takes a guaranteed deal for four years eighty million. Well,
he's throwing away forty five million. He's gonna see the
entire life of this five year contract because he's young,
he's a quarterback, doesn't get hurt, So why why would
you take less? So you know, a mid tier offensive
linement can get a guarantee contract. I've never seen that.
I just don't see that happening. So, um, I don't

(01:33:19):
think we'll ever get guaranteed contracts. I hope that we
negotiate in the next c B A two get a
portion of a contract back if they cut you early.
So I was cut after two years and a four
year deal, maybe back of the of the last two years,
something like that, where there is a little penalty if
you could a guy early. You can read his book
eat My Schwartz. You can listen to him on Serius

(01:33:42):
sex M Radio, currently occasionally on with Clay Travis as well. Uh.
He's the host of at Blocked Me Up. It's a
podcast that's available, and of course you just follow him
on Twitter. It's always entertaining. Hey, look, I know you're
a foodie. I just got back from Israel. If you
go to the Homeland, I got some spots for you. Okay,
Oh man, you're the second person in two days to
tell many to go to Israel. Uh. Well, like here,

(01:34:02):
here's the deal with Israel. Like, do you like watermelon? Sure?
Do you like humas? Okay, you will eat, you can eat,
and you'll eat right there, because I've had more watermelon
humas over the last three and a half weeks and
I like them both. But I'm kinda I'm kind of good.
Now I'm good. I'm good in them. Like, no more humas,
no more room, no more Tahini, no more, no more,

(01:34:24):
no more Swarts. You're the best man. Get back, Get
back in the pool. I'm sure the water level rises.
I appreciate it. Jeff Schwartz jow is his books really funny.
I don't know if you guys read it. Eat my
Schwartz him and his brother. Oh my god, it's crazy.
He's crazy, funny, crazy fun Uh. I got a guy
in Dallas that will tell us about Ezeki Elliott and

(01:34:44):
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(01:36:18):
We don't know everything, but we know people that know
what you want to know. You know, sounds like you
need a guy. I got a guy, a zek Eellett.
He hasn't been arrested yet, he hasn't in charge or
investigating yet, but some dude got knocked out at the

(01:36:38):
club and Ezeki Eillett was in the area, and there
are people like, that's the guy who did it. And
seeing as there's a non denial denial coming from Zeki
Yellott's camp, he probably did do it. But what's it
mean long term? What's it mean? Big picture? Joashoda joins us.
He covers the Cowboys beat for the Dallas Morning News,
which of course the biggest paper in Dallas at Joashoda.

(01:37:00):
That's m A H O t A. Do you want
to anything about the Cowboys? He's a guy, Uh, John,
What have you been able to ascertain in regards to
what actually happened in the nightclub? Well, a source has
confirmed that, Um, the reports are true that he was
involved in an altercation, even though the police aren't put
in connecting his name with it as of right now.
As you mentioned, uh, the silence is definitely coming from

(01:37:23):
his camp, and then also the fact that they did
release that it was a local DJ in the area.
Um So UM, I can't confirm uh if they're gonna
you know, he's gonna be charged with anything or not. Um,
but I also wouldn't be surprised if it's something that
uh Zeke might handle on his own that takes Maybe
he takes care of it on his own with this guy,
so it uh he doesn't press any charges, uh you know,

(01:37:45):
I mean obviously be very aware of the trouble he's
he's facing right now with the NFL and a possible
mention there so, Um, he hasn't been linked to it
as of yet, but it certainly seems like everything's point
to that he was involved in an altercation last night
Adults Nightclub. John Arry Jones has previously assigned off duty
police officers or former police officers to some of his players,

(01:38:06):
especially ones with with troubled backgrounds. Does Zeke have a
handler from the Cowboys assigned to him? He's not from
the Cowboys, but Zeke has his own bodyguard. Okay, so
why why was his bodyguard not the one involved? Why
why was it Zeke? That? That is the interesting thing
because I've I've talked to people that have been around
him in these clubs situations, and it's hard to even

(01:38:26):
stay high to Zeke because there's generally always a bodyguard
or a handler that's around him. So that's another part,
another layer of this story that surprised me when I
heard about this, because he generally does when he's at
the club, has somebody with him. Um. Okay, last thing,
what is what? What? What are the Cowboys thinking? Are
they thinking that it's a likely suspension because the other

(01:38:46):
stuff has not added up, uh to to us to
a suspension? But even if like look, even if there's
a reason the guy deserved to be knocked out based
upon the stuff coming out of his mouth because he
was intoxicated. You start to pull it all to anything like,
all right, we may want to send them down. What's
the cowboys brass thinking as of today? They have to
be thinking that he's gonna be missing at least a

(01:39:07):
game or two. With this couples with the other stuff
the NFL is already looking into. He just isn't a
good look for his ego. And it kind of makes
me wonder even though they had said all along that
they weren't worried about him getting a suspension, it's kind
of interesting that Alfred Morris remains on the roster when
a lot of people thought, you know, he doesn't really
kind of fit with what they have now because Darren
McFadden is really the number two. So maybe all along
this is why they were keeping Alfred Morris around it,

(01:39:29):
just in case there was something that came down like this.
Always something bad that follows all the good of the cowboys.
That's that's life of the Cowboys. John knows it very
very well because he covers their beat for the Dallas
Morning News. John, thanks so much for joining us, No problem, Thanks,
all right, Well, we got a guy in Charlotte to
find out why Dave. Gentleman was fired eight days before
they opened camp. Kyle Bailey joins us co host of

(01:39:51):
Garcia and Bailey. That's tend to two pm Eastern time
on the fan in Charlotte, Kyle, why do you think
they ousted Gentleman right now? M Uh, Doug, I'll be
honest with you, was still caught u up in the air,
at least publicly. Anyway, we were actually on the air
today when the news broke, so uh, still doing some
some gathering and figuring this all out. But I mean, look,
the bottom line is Gentleman just put together a nice

(01:40:14):
free agency period and they drafted really well by most accounts.
So you know the late developments with with Greg Olsen
possibly wanting a new contract, same thing with Thomas Davis.
You've got an owner and Jerry Richardson who saw a
pretty unceremonious exit for some of his guys. God they
love like Steve Smith and uh D'Angelo Williams and even
Josh Norman. So you know, I don't know what the
powder Keig moment was in the past couple of days,

(01:40:35):
but this was certainly unexpected and it just developed in
a matter of the last probably seventy two hours. Um, look,
I love both of those veterans that want new deals,
but they are veterans, like mid thirties veterans at athletic positions.
I'm not crazy to think that gay gentleman like he
may obviously that may have cost him his job, but

(01:40:56):
wasn't he kind of right for a hard line stance
with older players in my estimation? Yeah? Probably so, um,
in the estimation of Panthers fans, and probably even Jerry Richardson. No,
maybe not. I mean, look, Jerry Richardson was a player,
so even though he's been an owner and a pretty
rich guys for a long time, he's still a player
at heart. And again he's got his guys. And the
way that Steve Smith thing was handled, with the bad

(01:41:17):
taste in his mouth, I don't think he liked the
way that Josh Norman thing went down. And of course
you're seen again that told de Angela Williams Sauga. So yeah,
back to your point, I agree. You know, Greg Olsen
has probably outplayed his contract, but he's in his thirties
and they'd be crazy to pony up big money for
an extension or a new deal. And Thomas Davis. What
this guy is a consummate Carolina Panthers, great, great player,
great leader. But he's had injuries and he's old. That's it.

(01:41:39):
That's exactly right. He's older. And look, you want to
keep this guy around. You can reach a deal, great,
but you can't break the bank for a guy, so
you can't be certain his needs are gonna hold up
for this one season. But look, I get what you're saying, Doug,
and I totally agree, at least in terms of playing hardball.
I don't think Gedelman was off based on those deals.
Great stuff Kyle Bailey and obviously gave him great fodder
for his radio show Tomorrow. Garcia and Bailey tended to
PM Eastern Time on the fan in Charlotte. Kyle, thanks

(01:42:02):
for being our guy in the c LT. Thank you.
I appreciate it. So you need a guy, we got you.
A guy. Sounds like Zeke Yellett, maybe sitting for a
couple of games, and sounds like the the Carolina Panthers
are a player run organization. Let's quickly find out what's trending.

(01:42:22):
The song is called beer, Real big Fish. Do you
know there's actually a Maccabi beer? Do you know what
their slogan is in in Israel, choose the beer the
chosen people choose, like that it's good, it's good. Favorite

(01:42:44):
beer Ramos is what we do not sponsorboy any beer
companies that don't worry about you speaking. It would be
Corona Corona with a linement, without an it's it's it's
a crime to drink a Corona without a lot right
music favorite beer as of right now you I think
we've had this discussion before, and it's something fairly foo fu.
It's fairly expensive, but it's okay. It's like a Belgian
white or something like. It's actually not logis I age?

(01:43:09):
I like a lot like I P I don't like,
I P a s. I just don't. I'm just I'm
not you can everybody has different taste buzz right, and
it's one of these things like what do you mean
you don't like? We'll look like sorry, I just drink
it and I don't like it. Come on, dog. There's
the one thing about beer, right, Beer is an acquired taste,
which means it tastes bad anything. It's like an acquired taste.

(01:43:29):
On the other hand, some people say I'm an acquired
taste and maybe maybe maybe I should like beer a
little bit more. What about Dan Buyer? Dan favorite beer
currently is what I like your eyes called roots um
ban w preferably so I don't drink alcohol. You don't
drink Alcoholome I was like, I was like, wait, wait hold,
I tried to sign as technical as you guys. Did

(01:43:52):
you've never like you've never I've drank? Yeah, but I
just I don't. I probably because you get crazy like
some girl don tequila. Were like, don't get me to
because I get great. Huh is it you get crazy
or is it? Is it a like never? No Lutherans
can drink, So I'm good, Hell yeah they can. Alright.

(01:44:17):
Speaking of Dan Byre, let's hear more from him with
the press. The press. Here's the way the press works. Okay,
he's got that one, two, three, four or five, six, seven, eight?
Oh and the eight stories are good. Okay, so stay
tuned for the eighth story. Let's see if we can
get through all eight in six minutes. That means Doug
has to talk less. That's alright, mora, Doug is better.

(01:44:40):
USA Today reports he touched on this earlier. The Cavaliers
forward Lebron James is frustrated and concerned about the future
of the Cavaliers. Wasn't happy with the David Griffith situation
as well, but they also lost VP Trent Redden and
concerned they haven't closed the gap on Golden State this offseason.
That the problem with with Lebron James is it's never

(01:45:00):
Lebron's fault, right, never Lebron's fault. The team loses in
the finals, that remember, is his answer during the finals.
Hey man, I'm averaging a triple double, right, there's never
any like I could have played better defense on Kevin
Durant and there's no accountability in the off season. Well,
we didn't go out and get better, like okay, but
we could have gotten better if we could have moved

(01:45:21):
on from some of your guys, or we didn't sign
j R. Smith to too much money, or or Tristan
Thompson and too much money, right, Like it's and it
appears that they wanted to get the Paul George deal done,
but India didn't want to do the Paul George deal
with them. So I think it's pretty obvious that he's
creating a perception that Cleveland doesn't have their stuff together
and that may be the reality, but he's created perception

(01:45:44):
that it's their fault. They don't know what they're doing,
so that he can politely say, I brought a championship
to Cleveland, I got us to a couple of NBA finals.
Now I'm gonna finish my career elsewhere. Doug, Oh, I'm sorry.
I was gonna say, I take your Cavaliers and raise
you the New York Knicks because president Steve Mills said
today the team wouldn't buy out Carmelo Anthony's contract, which
is two years and fifty four million dollars left on it,

(01:46:06):
also said that they haven't ruled out the possibility of
Carmelo still being a Nick at the start of the season. Yeah.
I mean, I think you rule out because you don't
want to look by saying they're not gonna buy him out.
There they're they're saying, we have an offer from Houston.
We don't think it's good enough. Cleveland. Are you listening?
Other teams? Are you listening? Can you put together? But
you know what, fine, we're gonna be bad. We're not

(01:46:26):
gonna be great next year. Anyway, we might just keep him.
We might just keep them. See how it works. Out
so um And look, maybe they have a plan to
to use Carmelo and they can buy them ountain at
the end of next year. But I think they want
to negotiate from a point of strength and saying that
they're done with Carmelo and they're willing to buy them
out or that they have to move off from Carmela,
that would be a position of weakness. This is negotiation,

(01:46:47):
and it's a smart form negotiation. How about this from
the summer League? No Alonzo ball tonight for the Lakers
as they play their title game in Vegas against the
Portland Trail Blazers. That's how many minutes Alonzo is gonna
have because of stream calf. Yeah, look, I'm sure he
probably wanted to play, and they're probably like, isn't really
worth it? Its summer league? Can you? Does anybody know
who ever won the Summer League last year? Then the

(01:47:09):
Kings went like two or three years in a row.
It's the only thing they've ever won. I remember Becky
Hammond's coached the Spurs to a summer league titled two
years ago, and that was only news because it was
Becky Hammond's coaching the Spurs. I alviously would have liked
to see him play in a championship game, but I
get it and this would be a great opportunity for
Alex Truso. Doug, did you hear about that game on
that new Summer League game that premiered last week on

(01:47:30):
the Doug gott Leap Show. I did not. Yes, it
was called Summer League or some other guy. We could
We could play that anytime. There was a lot of fun.
It was it a Summer League player or some other guy.
John Ramos was in on that. Um. The Washington Nationals
have been in on a lot of victories, and the
pitch swung on. Built a deep to right field, this
one way back and it is gone goodbye. A line

(01:47:52):
drive just gets over the wall and straight away right
A laser beam line drive home run for Price Harper
is his twenty third of the year. That happened earlier today,
Doug in Cincinnati on the National's radio network. Yes, a
three run shot Nationals. Now, I've won five straight, beating
the Reds today six to one. M h um. Look.

(01:48:13):
Last year was about the Cubs talent finally living up
to expectations. This year appears to be the Nationals talent
finally living up to expectations. Uh, The question becomes, can
the Cubs figure it out in time to make the
playoffs and challenge the Dodgers have figured out their dominant,
The Nats have figured out their dominant. The Houston Astros
in the American League West. They have a ton of

(01:48:34):
young talent. They figured it out. The Cubs are the
ones that apparently have the disease of me and they're
trying to fix things in the fly. How about this
from the NFL. You touched on the franchise tags earlier,
Redskins and quarterback Kirk Cousins. No long term deal there,
Bruce Allen releasing a statement yes the presidents that said
they offered Cousins a deal that would have given them
fifty three million dollars guaranteed on May second, the average salary,

(01:48:58):
second highest for a player in NFL history. This is
what happens. Like I understand where Bruce is coming from,
including this year is guaranteed money, what he made, made
a franchise tag and say, look, we're not the bad
guys here. We offered him a decent deal. He never
even countered on it. But this is one where this
is what happens is the opposite of intentions. It's called
the law of unintended consequence. Right, The intended consequences of

(01:49:19):
releasing the statement is they want to win over the fans. Hey, look,
we want Kirk Cousins. We like Kirk Cousins. He's our guy.
We offered him this long term deal. But the opposite
ends up happening because Redskin fans gotta be sitting there
going like, well, if it's such a good deal, why
wouldn't he take it right? And why would you make
it public? What's what's what's the win there? The law
of unintended consequences are in effect with the Skins. We

(01:49:40):
are one away from one of Doug's favorite stories, just
In from Stories. That's just In from Boston. Paul Pierce
gonna have his number thirty four retired, signing a one
day deal with the Boston Celtics. So the thirty four,
the number thirty four will hang from the rafters at
t D Garden. He was my roommate at abc D camp.
Okay uh, it was for people who knew who Paul

(01:50:02):
Pierce was. I played against my sophomore year, Englewood beat
us Tustin at my high school. He was he came
off the bench. He was kind of a chubby center
and he became the best small forward in a U
basketball over the next two years. But played with him
and I remember just think we're fairly Dickinson University, not
fairly ridiculous, fairly Dickinson University remain and he was kissing

(01:50:22):
his biceps and he was like, you know, I'm gonna
be one of the greatest players in the world. And
I was like, like, you're really good. But I was
saying to myself, like that's a tall order, and he
lived up to it. Paul Pierce is one of those
guys that never had a great first step and was
still always by you. He tremendous player. It's a great honor,
well deserved, although I hate one day contracts. Well, Doug, Apparently,
earlier in the day when we welcomed you back, you

(01:50:43):
were so excited to tell us about this story about
a recent flight that apparently had to be diverted to Raleigh,
North Carolina because of someone's bad gas on the flight,
causing the entire fight to evacuate. Now, Doug, that was
that was the story reported by a news outlet in
North Carolina that someone had gas so bad on an

(01:51:05):
airplane that they were forced to land in North Carolina
and evacuate every day. Okay, first of all, everybody farts
on a plane, or at least I farted a plane. Right.
It's like peeing in the pool, right, people trying to
say I've never pee in the pool, but come on,
you want to tell me even once you've never really
had to go and be like, well, who's gonna know? Right?

(01:51:26):
And plus it's chlorine. You'll kill it anyway, so don't
act like now the question is twofold. First thing is
how do you play it off when you fart in
the plane? Do you look around like, come on, who
was that? Or you pretend like it didn't happen? Ramos,
what do you do play it off? What about you buyer?
I of course try to make the noise that it

(01:51:46):
was similar to the noise that just came out of
my back? Was that? Was that the chair music? What
do you do? Just blank stare like nothing happening? Alright?
Last last thing is my two My my three foods
are raisin brand uh frankly too much humas is bad
for me. But but the worst is French onion soup

(01:52:07):
if I was on that plane, I would have I
would owned up like, hey, I know you're clearing off,
but I had French onion soup but I couldn't control it. Ramos,
what's the worst thing for your stomach? Uh? Like gravy? Gravy?
You have gravy often, but like if so, I love gravy.
My name John Ramos and gravy. What about buyer? What's what?
What tears you up? Oh? The candied almonds and not

(01:52:31):
the the candy type you know in cinnamon. Yeah, those
are giggling. It's him music. Brussels sprouts, Yeah, Brussels sprouts
are Yeah. You can stay away for Brussels sprouts, but
a nice candid not as tough to stay away. Have
you ever had really good Brussel sprouts? I make bake um,
you put a little baal samon. The brussel spouts have
seen a great recovery. And that's the press bagging out

(01:52:52):
there and pressed the press. Does does Bruce Allen actually
know Kirk Cousins first name? Apparely not. I'll prove it
to you. Next broadcasting live from the studios of Fox
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I will stand by the assessment that Dirk Navitsky is
the most mispronounced great player's name in the history of sports.
Right when David Certin handed him the m V PET Trophy,

(01:53:37):
he said, Nowitzki and people have consistently screwed up. There
are other big names that people like everyone be decided
to pronounce Brett Farve Brett Farve, but I'm sure coming
up people mispronounced Brett Farve's name. But there are people
whose name There are great talents in broadcasting, great talent
like I've always been like I have. People got Lee,

(01:53:58):
got Lipp, got Scott Lieb, which roughly doesn't Roughly it
translates into love by God German. David anyway, Um enter
into the phrase the Kurt and Kirk pronunciation, right, it's
Kurt Chilling, Kirk cousins, Captain Kirk right, not Captain Kirk

(01:54:25):
Captain Kirk ka Um. Bruce Allen is the president of
the Washington Redskins. This is the organization that drafted he
was also the guy there when they drafted, drafted, and
employs Kirk Cousins as their starting quarterback. The Washington Redskins
today announced that basically Kirk Cousins is going to be

(01:54:49):
their starting quarterback, but he's gonna play on the franchise
tag because he didn't want He didn't even offer a
counter to the Redskins offer. So what Bruce Allen's and
the Redskins decided to do, which was really interesting and
seems a little bit insecure, was to put out a
statement as to a statement of facts. Here's what happened,

(01:55:10):
Here's what Kirk thinks, Here's where we are. We wish
him well. We were going to play into this contract
and see what happens. But they didn't just put out
the statement. They decided to allow Bruce Allen, remember the
president who's had negotiations face to face with him, and
he read the actual statement. After discussions with Kirk this

(01:55:31):
weekend face to face, I wanted to clarify our negotiations
for this year. Kurt is obviously an important part of
our organization and it's an important to our team and
fans to know where we stand. Our goal was to
sign Kirk to a long term contract with a final
objective of having him end his career with the Redskins.

(01:55:54):
All right, I'm gonna let you guys in on something
that I have never said on national radio before. Oh
all right, and uh, I don't know I'm begetting me
in Trout might not. When I was negotiating with CBS
and I originally left ESPN for CBS, I almost pulled
out of the deal. Do you know why Because in
a meeting with I will name him one of my bosses,

(01:56:15):
he twice called me Dan. Now, the meeting started and
ended with him calling me Doug, But during the meeting
he called me Dan twice. And to this day it
still pisces me off because it it actually speaks to
one of the reasons I never should have gone there
to begin with, because I felt like they didn't know
who I was, right, Like anything that I would say

(01:56:38):
that they wouldn't like. I was like, well, did you not,
Like I was at ESPN for ten years, you had
a pretty good sense of the style of broadcaster, both
on games, in studio and in radio that I was.
And if you didn't like, that's on you for not
doing your home homework. I understand why Kirk Kirk Cousins
is not signing with the Redskins. Dude, not even know
what I name. It's Kirk, not Kirk, you idiot, Right,

(01:57:01):
that's what he thinks. And Bruce Down is not an
idiot and he didn't mean it. But it's just the
idea of like when people mispronounced your name, it makes
you mad, doesn't it. Like I had never met John
Ramos until how long we've we're working here at three
months now, I've been here two months, but worked here
three months right in Israel for a month. But I

(01:57:22):
knew Ramos because Ramos is famous. Like I listened, I listened, privately, trolled,
listen to Fox Sports Radio forever, right that stuff I like,
and I got Romo's I gotta meet this guy. Like,
can you imagine if like I'm like carrying on a
conversation with John and I was like John Ramos, John,
like it would make you mad, and you forever holding
against me, and then you now you think of it

(01:57:43):
your Kirk Cousins, and you're like, all right, I'm a
fourth round pick and they keep treating me like a
fourth round pick, Like I won the job. I got
him to the playoffs. I threw forty yards last year. Like,
treat me like I'm a guy, and then you're like
it calls me Kurt like you you treat me like something.
You treat me like a guy who you don't care
what his first name is, you don't care the image
pronouncing it. It's disrespectful. Now, look, if you're Kirk Cousins,

(01:58:06):
you have to make sure that you that you compartmentalized
disrespect and what's a really good job opportunity. But let's
be honest, I'd taken personal if somebody was calling me
Doug Gottlip or if I was called when I was
called Dan. It made me really upset. And it's not
just because of this one thing. But this is on
the micro the bigger problem in the macro. Kirk Cousins,

(01:58:32):
Captain Kirk, Kurt Schilling, Dirk Navitski catch me tomorrow on
the Herd TV side radio side Dan Byron Jonas knocks
him for me. The rest of the week. They do
a great job. This is the Doug Gotlip show. Box
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