Why Kyrie Irving Wants Out of Cleveland

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You're listening to Fox Sports Boom, What Up America, Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, getting ready to maybe take
your phone calls. Definitely have a great conversation on what
should have been a lazy sports weekend. We had some
soccer baseball kershaw hurt little that we know, we'd have

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some outstanding golf as Jordan's spief would UH would win
yet another major re reigniting the conversation about where golf
is and where he can take it. But maybe more importantly,
the weekend began with an absolute bombshell that was dropped
on Friday afternoon. You guys familiar with the UH Friday

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news dump. Friday news dump is something that that usually
is reserved for politics, right. It's an old political UH tactic.
It's from before news cycle, but it still works to
this day, to which you ate for a three day
holiday weekend and on Friday, after four o'clock, when everybody's
gone home and everybody's going out to the lake, or
everybody's going to the beach, or people have gone to

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the mountains wherever they've scattered away. That's when before end
of business, before closing of business, c Ob, you drop
a bombshell. That's what happened from Brian wind Horse who
dropped the bombshell which everybody has been reacting to since,
will continue to react to it, is that Kyrie Irving
over a week ago went into the calves and said, Hey,

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you know what, I don't want to be a fiddle
player as the Titanic sinks. I'd like to be on
one of those boats. Please, can you please arrange for
me to make sure that I am on a lifeboat
since this ship be sinking. That happened Friday afternoon. Now,
I don't think it was a news dump. I think
it as soon as Windhorse got the information, got the

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confirmation that he put it out there, which gave him
great affirmation. But nonetheless, it happen been on Friday. We
still react to it today and everywhere I go, everyone
I meet, they all want to know the same thing.
What do you think? I said, I'll let you know
on Monday in the show. Here's what I think I think.
Can you blame him? Right? Can you blame him? I mean? Look,

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how much credit is Kyrie Irving ever actually gotten? I
didn't say how much he deserves, but how much has
he gotten last year? When you think of Game seven,
you might think of his heroic game winning bucket. Do
you think of his incredible productivity the over forty point
games in order to get them back to games savy seven?
Do you think of him hitting the game winning shot?

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Or do you think of Lebron and all Lebron did
and Lebron's block. That might sound petty, but there's some
reality to it. If you look at Kyrie this year,
did Kyrie have a good, above average or great year?
You have eage more point, shout a better percentage he
averaged essentially what Steph Curry averaged, and shout a better

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person nage from the field and from three, better percentage
from three than Steph Curry averaging about twenty five and
a half twenty six points per game. Do you know
that he was in the first, second or third team
on NBA selection? How much credit to carry Irving actually gets?
So in terms of credit, he hadn't gotten a ton.
Remember Lebron James in the in the finals? Well, you

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ever triple double gonna be Lebron? That means it's everybody else.
And then there's a reality of they weren't able to
hire a general manager. They hired a young general manager
who been there the whole time, but obviously wasn't their plan.
They're in cap hell. They don't seem to be able
to improve themselves. And oh yeah, by the way, all

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signs point to Lebron looking at leaving at the end
of this year. If your Carrie Irving w why would
you stay? Cleveland's not where you're from, it's not your home.
It'll be profitably more difficult to leave going forward to
next year when I get out one step ahead of it.
Why wait? And the narrative has come out and some

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of this is from the report that maybe Kyrie wants
to be the main guy. But if he wants to
be the main guy, why would the San Antonio Spurs
be one of his primary destinations. If he wants to
be the main guy and he wants to win, why
would the New York Knicks be one of them? And
some of this is just the a a U ization

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of basketball. Right in basketball, yes, what AU teams in
between tournaments, That's what you do, That's what you do.
It's a different mentality, like there's three big tournament weekends.
I know we have an a U team played the
first two weeks in Anaheim, this coming weekends in Las Vegas,
and what do they do weekend number three? We start

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to turn over our roster. We're sick of them, they're
sick of us. They move on. And because that's happened
for the last fifteen or twenty years, we shouldn't be
surprised that players are like, Hey, I'm gonna go play
for another team mid stream contract because it means nothing
to them. But I've stated this before and I'll state

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this again, and maybe it's until everybody understands that I
know exactly what I'm talking about. It's fair to say
the Lebron James is in the conversation of one of
the greats of all time, and over the last twenty years,
he's arguably the greatest player we've seen play in the NBA. Arguably,

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of course, that coincides with the tail end of Michael
Jordan's But Michael Jordan, for me, is the best basketball
player I've ever seen. But Lebron James is not without flaw,
and one of the flaws is how we cover him.
We've had people like Skip Bayliss be a little bit
too harsh in calling him a choker, which he was
until he wasn't. We've had others be too soft, like

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Colin Cowherd who thinks Lebron is the grayst he's ever seen,
and everybody else that's it all wrong. And then there's
the realist in me that says that Lebron's complex. Lebron
is not easy. Lebron gets it his way. When Lebron wins,
it's Lebron's fault. When Lebron loses, it's not. Lebron can
try and manipulate general managers to signing his guys who

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are represented by his agent that's his best friend, even
though he doesn't want them to call the posse. His
posse has negotiated contracts that are above the normal or
average value on the open market of his teammates, which
is great. The problem becomes it puts you in cap
hell and they're not able to add to that list.

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And Lebron has never been accountable for the decisions that
he rich, Paul and the front office has made in
in trying to be in his best interest. The point
is this, le Bron could be great. Lebron could be
a pain in the ass. Lebron could be the best
player we've seen since Michael Jordan's and Lebron can be
hard to play with. It can be rewarding in terms

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of competing for a championship, but not personally rewarding and
all that much fun to go to work. Lebron's complex.
It's not easy, and playing with Lebron is complex and
not easy. And maybe at some point Kyrie Irving's like,
I'm good, I'm ready to move on and oh yeah.
By the way, Kyrie was in Asia last week when

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this dropped. Where do we think that story came from.
Do you think he was texting Brian Windhorst and giving
him the story or do you think that's a stronger
possibility that that news leaks from Cleveland, most notably from
that of Lebron James and Lebron James's camp. And while
that may hurt Kyrie's value out on the open market,
the fact is it makes Lebron look better than it

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does Kyrie. And that's what Lebron has been about, how
he looks, how his image is above the reality of it.
Lebron continues to say that he does. He's not the
general manager, but he's controlled and manipulated most of that roster.
Begin with, there's a desire to change and manipulate and

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evolve that roster, while there's no desire to claim responsibility
when things don't go well. This is Lebron James. This
is why when he left, pat Riley did not have
many great things to say about him. This is why
Lebron James is a complex superstar. And this is why, frankly,

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it feels like Kyrie Irvin just wants to get out
of it. And he still wants to win. He still
wants to compete, but he's okay if he doesn't win
a championship because he's already won one and he understands
that that being with Lebron sometimes isn't all that much fun.
Here's the greatest analogy I can give. Right, everybody once

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says they want to marry a ten. Right, you want
to marry a ten, But do you like One of
the most important things when you marry a woman is
that you actually like her. They're like, no, Doug, you
gotta love her. I don't dispute that. But men and
women we fall in love, we fall into a fatuation,
and we can love somebody physically for a long time,

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maybe forever, But do you actually like them? Do you
want to hang out with them? Do you want to
be around them when you're not full monty? That to
me is what separates relationships. Do I actually like this?
But you know I like this person that kind of smart,
the kind of funny, they're kind of sarcastic, the kind

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of give it give it back to me when I
give it to them, Like I actually liked them. I
thought you said you love them. I do, but I
also like them as well. When searching for somebody you're
going to marry, don't worry about whether or not they're
a ten or whether there's seven two fives make it ten? Instead,
do I actually like them? Don't get me wrong, The
other parts of physical traits are really are important? Are

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they're They're important, But so too are the emotional traits.
And nothing worse than a woman who who has been
told her whole life she's beautiful, and she knows she's beautiful.
The guys are same way, like a really good looking guys.
I'm sure you asked women they're like two pretty. What

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does two pretty mean? Does that actually mean they're too
good looking? No, it means that whether it's too much
vanity or whether it's just not a lot of person there.
They've been able to skate by because they're so damn
good looking. You want somebody who's really good looking but
maybe doesn't know they're really good looking, but more than anything,
someone that you can love, but someone you actually like.

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And I'm sure Kyrie Irving has loved many parts of
what Lebron James has brought to the table. But do
you like it? These guys are always around, his agent
represents half the team, not you. When things go wrong,
it's your fault. When things go right, it's his fault. Right.
I love it, but I don't like it. And that's

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not a marriage that's spilt to last, all right, up
coming next, Rory shed the demons of Augusta at thirteen
to come back on an amazing stretch and put away
Matt Kucher. What did I say, Rory, I'm sorry, speech,
I might lost my mind here. Um I thinking about

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what Rory said about speed, which was fantastic. Spee put
away Matt Coucher after thirteen, shedding all of those demons
of Augusta, all those demons of the last year and
a half or so, and put himself right back in
the conversation as the best golfer going and the most
likely challenger to Tiger. And when I say Tiger, I

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mean Tiger now, I mean Tiger. What he's done over
his career, how replicable is what we saw this weekend
is speech back. We'll discuss up coming next in the
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Fox Sports Radio. So I will I will say this
about the British Open and uh in the process of
moving from East to West Coast. I said this to
the guys when I was hosting The Herd last week,

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and Jonas and Dan Buyer did a great job in
my stead. I listened to a good amount of that
driving around in l A last week listen to my
Serious XM Channel three. So I appreciate them both filling
in and doing a great job. I was on The
Herd last weekend and Ryan Music, my producer, would be
produced the last two days of that show. I said
this in a meeting one day. I said, boy, it

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is really hard to talk British hope when you're in
California because the damn things over by the time everybody
kind of gets up and figures it out, like you
can't say, remember what happened when they didn't. Now, it
was helped yesterday because the whole thirteen, you know, everybody
teed off it will is like ten fifty or so
on the on the East Coast, so by the time
they got to Wold thirteen, all of America was awake.

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But that it's fair to say the first couple of
days are kind of a wash for the West Coast
golf fans. That that accurate. Boys, I would agree Dan Buyer,
who's actually off today, he would probably be more on
the side of he'll wake up at four o'clock in
the morning in l a because he's just such a
die hard golf fan. But yeah, it's sort of lost

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in the fold of I think in that meeting, I
don't know if it was you or one of the
other producers there had actually said like, oh my gosh,
that's right. The Open is like it started this week
like that was that? That was me on Thursday and
on Friday, I said, do we want to talk about it?
Like I was, like, it's really hard to talk about
because it's so early in the morning and I'm an
early riser. That just my immediate thought isn't live sports

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or on TV. Yeah no, And it's it is awkward
that like when it starts, it starts even it's even
weird for the East Coast because it starts at like
one in the morning and then like ten thirty pm
on that Thursday night when it first begins, and it
is really hard to relate to when you're in l
A no question about it. Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports
Radio Shane Bacon will join us in covering uh in

(14:17):
covering the British Open, we'll get we'll get his sense
of what he saw and if this is in fact
a turnaround for Jordan's speech and a speech can go
on one of those runs he like he had in
two thousand and fifteen where he nearly won all four
majors one two of them. But I don't know to me,
to me, the story is thirteen, right, and what people

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complaining about pace of play and whether he should have
been penalized or not. I don't deem golf to be
a sport. I think it's a game of skill. Now
people will say, well, that's tacking shots at golf, Like, okay,
games of skill. You still have to have skill and
nerve and toughness and some of the it takes to

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be great at sport. The differences. There's an endurance aspect
to it, there's an athleticism aspect to it, which you
don't necessarily have in order to achieve greatness in the
sport of golf. But what lends me to think it's
more of a sport than just a game of skill
is what we saw on thirteen. It's the human part
of the Everything is seemingly going against you. People believe
that you should be penalized. Your caddies trying to save you,

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You're trying to save yourself. You're working, you know, inside
your head even harder than you're working with your body,
and you've got to figure it out. You've got to
get it together. I mean, the Warriors of sixteen, the
Falcons of the Super Bowl, they were all hoping for
that type of choke to take them off of the
mantle as the right. Now it's the Atlanta Falcon three.

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They're the choking team of record that everybody's going to
point to. But for about a half hour there they
were off the hook because George Speed was going to
join them coming off of Augusta and onto this tournament.
And yet how he figured it out, So I I
thought the wheels were coming off. But again this is where, uh,

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he's an incredible putter. I mean, he is just a
remarkable putter. And while while golf guy may take you
you couldn't do it, You're right, I can do it.
I also can't. I'm not good at darts. I'm not
good at archery. Those are things that take a steady
end to take a ton of skill. The difference, obviously,
is you're playing against the course, not just against you know,

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against the wind, and it's far more skillful it is
to play darts. I get that. But that was magnificent.
I think more of him because he recovered from what
appeared to be an epic collapse that I would have
had he ran away from it. Isn't that weird? That
weird how the how the human mind works? And then

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um do you see the ball tap afterwards of the caddy.
How could you miss that one? Who is uh? I mean, listen,
I've only been at Fox Sports Radio for a couple
months now. Who's the most likely to ball tap at
Fox Sports Radio? Ramost let me ask you first. Oh,
that's a good question. Probably Big Mike, big, big guard,

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big big, big ball tap Mike. Yeah, he'll probably walked
by and give it a quick one, you know, slap. Yes, Ryan,
Ryan knows he agreed with me per se right, Ryan, Yeah,
I would say Big Mike would be number one on
that list, with maybe David Gascon as number two. I

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don't think David Gascon, who, of course, is in for
Dan Buyer today. David's not today. It's Steve Today, Steve Day.
I'm sorry, Steve, Steve. He would he would be at
the bottom of that list, way at the bottom. You
don't reminds me of um Sean Salisbury who now has
his own show. Uh. I was very used. That was

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his big thing at that we're in the r Aspen
days was he would he would do the what's the
capital of Thailand? What's the capital of California? Back then?
You know, who's who's the general manager of the l
A Lakers, And when you hit him with the answer,
he would hit you with a little tap, A little
just a little tap. I don't know a big I'm

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so glad that fat is over. I'm so glad that
that is no longer a thing. Well, there's lots of
little yeah, I mean a lot of I don't like
flat tires, right, like you know, flat tires were terrible. Yeah,
I don't like flat tires. Uh, we've obviously grown out
of wedges. Wedges are for little kids. But I don't
like wedgies, ptomics sit ups like just you know, but

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these are even wet willies. What willies is gives you
the willies. I don't like wet willie. That's bad. Did
you ever used to do the the tabletop? What's the tabletop?
Tabletop is? If you're like standing up, you don't do
it on concrete. If you're standing out on a field,
one per his kneels down like below knee level of
someone push you put up? You know, Yeah, I just

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I look, I actually I actually like it. It's like
one of those things that like pretty obvious. Jordan's speeed um,
Jordan's speed has some personality there. I would just like
for he reminds me a lot of UM. I used
to work with Dave Revson at also an ESPN guys
now Big ten Networks mean being toenne work since it launched,
and he used to say to guys all the time

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like that guy's got a hell of personality. Wish you
would come out on TV. Right, And that's kind of
where we are with Speeed. Like I think Speet is
probably good dude. Love to hang with him, dude, But
I feel like the two things we need is him
to go on a run and him to give us
a little personality, a little a little insight into why
he's a dude you'd want to hang with U. Instead,

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he plays it relatively close to the vest, but man,
is he good with the man as you give with
the putter? Holy cow? And I just like, look if
you're if you're a spiral out of control guy. This
is what happens in people's lives, right, Like they their
wife to their girlfriend breaks up with them, then they
get into a car accident, then they forget to pay

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their phone bill. Right then they start doing meth. Right
Like it just begins this kind of vortex that they
get sucked into. Once one thing goes bad, everything else
goes bad. Jordan's speed pulling himself out of that vortex, um,
I think speaks to speaks to the type of dude
he is. Now. It's easy to pull yourself out of

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the vortex when you have the lead and you have
seemingly an hour and a half to figure it out,
even tho it's a half hour in one hole, but
the other part two it is. I do respect. One
of the things I respect about golfers and tennis players
alike is you just kind of gotta figured out a
boy yourself as much as Lebron is the reason when

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you know, and many of the reasons that has. When
we point out Kyrie actually hit the shot, Durant was
super important. But Durant didn't hit shots. He had Steph Curry,
had Clay Thoms. There are other guys in you know,
for the New England Patriots, it was Tom Brady great
in the comeback. He was, but he wasn't alone in
his efforts. You have other guys kind of helping you

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pull you out of it. When you're a tennis player
and you're golfer, you're out there all about yourself, I mean,
you're just you're out in front, all by yourself, almost naked,
in front of the world, and if you can't figure
it out, you end up getting dusted off. All right,
Shane Bacon will give us his thoughts on how replicable
uh Jordan's space event was. Of course, Shane works for

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Fox Sports covering all things golf. He won his third
major championship. We'll find out what it means and who
else has to get with him in order to get
golf's ratings back up. Doug Otlave show Fox Sports Radio,
UH to say, my boy Cowherd has been taking all
kinds of shots at Kyrie Irving all defend Kyrie's uh

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supposed decision to UH say he'd like to be traded.
Up coming, take some of your phone calls. That's eight
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Let's welcome in Shane Bacon from Fox Sports. He covers
the world of golf. Um, when you woke up yesterday?
When you awoke yesterday, Shane, I did you assume that

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Jordan Speth would would win a third major? You know
I thought he would win? Yes? Did I did I
assume it was a done deal? No, I mean I
think we uh, you know, there's there's this tainted part
of us that that Tiger did that we're still trying
to get over that. You know. We just believe that
a good player, a great player just goes and cruises
through wins majors, and even if it's if you have

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a three shot lead, a lot of the time that
doesn't happen. Really more often than not, it doesn't happen.
I mean, especially when you're looking basically over the last five, six,
seven years of players that weren't able to Was it
that on Sunday? So I thought there was a good
chance that he would win, considering he is Jordan's beef
and and obviously mentally superior than to a lot of
the players out there. But I didn't think it was
gonna be a completely done deal. And then when that
drive on the first film that Hey last and he

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came up and he was really frustrated with Michael, I
was interested to see what the next few you know, minutes,
the next few hours when play out, because you know
he can get a little down himself sometimes and which
which makes what happened after thirteen maybe more impressive, right,
I mean, I was just I was talking about this, like,
you're kind of naked in front of the world when
you're collapsing in front of us in a major tournament,
and that one, that one felt like he was spiraling

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out of control and to pull himself out of that
vortex is is pretty special stuff. Yeah, you know, it
kind of reminded me a little bit of Chilla, you know,
a couple of weeks ago in the finals at Wimbledon.
I mean, you know, you're golf and tennis is the
most naked you're going to be as an athlete. I
mean you're out there by yourself basically. I mean in
golf you get a caddy. But he was melting down,
and he was walking around trying to find a place

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to to to drop a ball to hopefully make a
bogey and not let this thing completely get away from him.
And you know, I was talking to a friend of
mine this morning. You know that shot on fourteen, If
that thing goes in after the great bogey stage he
makes there, you're probably talking about the best golf shot
in the history of the game, you know, for making
a hole and one for good mistakes of the bounce back.
But it was just incredible to see him do this.

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I mean, I've talked a lot about Jordan's speech and
how we get so obsessed with these guys that hit
at three fifty and can overpower golf courses. But golf,
you know, seventy seventy yards, it doesn't matter. I mean,
if you're if you're strong willed, and you're mentally tough
than everybody else, you're going to be better. And that's
what we see with Jordan. He's a guy that whatever
it is between the years that these great athletes have,

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Jordan's speech has it. Shane Bacon joining us on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, what about everybody else? Like
we saw this from speech going back two years ago,
where where he nearly could have won every major, it's
not a stunner that he did so with a steady
hand and putting we feel like he's back. What about
the rest of those young guys, the rories of the world.

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Uh that that we expect to be with him? Uh?
Where where are we in terms of getting that good
group of youngsters too? Maybe individually we won't see a tiger,
but collectively we could see that that kind of accumulation
of wins. Yeah, I think it's on those guys. I mean,
you see Rory who doesn't hasn't really had his a
game and a major i'd say in probably two and

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a half three years, still able to finish in the
top five. I think it's just about eliminating mistakes for
a lot of the guys like him and Matt Suyama.
So I think matts Yama doesn't get enough credit for
his consistent play out there. I think there's a level
of that where you're seeing guys that just they can't
put seventy two holds together and that's why they're not
winning these majors. And I think that's it. It's just
eliminated mistakes. I mean, Rory mclroy had a really good

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chance yesterday to put some serious pressure on those guys.
If he doesn't hit that ball, you know, thirty yards
left on fifteen in the part five and have to
go back to the tea and hit a provisional. I
mean that was a chance for him. With everything happened
with Jordan's speak at thirteen, you know, if Rory makes
Verdie there and Verdie's sixteen and then make sego on
seventeen like you, did you know that there was a
chance for us to get that Rory Jordan's past battle
we'd hope for. So really, it's just that that's what

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it is. It's it's those guys having to eliminate the
big mistakes that we keep seeing. Rory really the king
of that. You know, he's able to come back to
He's so talented. He makes a lot of berties, but
you just can't make Bogue's and double on four fives
when you're playing for a championship like this, especially when
the guy behind you is going through something mentally. If
there was a chance if Rory put a number up that,
you know, that'd be something to piece would have noticed.

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I would agree with you. Listen to Shane's podcast, The
Clubhouse Podcast for great golf analysis some of the biggest
guests in the world of golf, Shane Bacon and Fox
Sports joining us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Let's go
back to speech, Um, what went so wrong after the
success in in fifteen? Like, what what was he able
to figure out that he wasn't able to figure out
last year. I think that he hasn't really ever gone away.

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You know a lot of people you know, we count
these bead these great players by majors, and I think
right now it's almost little unfair to do that just
because their talent pool was so deep. I mean you
had eight winners in a row and majors that they
were first time major champions. You know, that's what golf
has become. I mean, Peace was still can this contly
winning PGA Tour tournaments. We just weren't seeing him win
the majors, and I think that's what people really look at.

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But he hadn't really gone away. I just think he
was looking for a week to put it all together,
and that's what we saw. You know. The funny thing
about Royal Birkdale is if you look over the cast
of characters that have one British open there, it is
always these guys that are mentally tough. And I thought
before the week started, I said, you know, Speek, you
don't have to overpower this place. You can just play smart.
And it felt a little bit like High Grid hoy Lake,
you know how he went and hit one driver in

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seventy two holes and was able to win. I just
felt like it was a place that he'd have a
lot of success that and he hasn't never really gone away.
I just think we were waiting for this and it
was good to see him do it this year and
not go, you know, another school season without a major
because you know, now he's on pace. I mean, this
isn't crazy to think he could win eight, nine, ten majors.
I mean, he's so young, he's got so much talented.
Plus I think you've got that drive that we'll see

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some of the young players consider how much money they make.
You know, they might kind of fade away in their
mid thirties because they don't really need to really play
that well anymore. Um, I'm can kind of offer something
else that Shane. I actually think it's a little bit
like why Paul Pierce's game was able to last so long.
Like Paul Pierce never had a great first step, and

(28:06):
yet he could still find a way to get a
first step on people Like Jordan's speeds has never won
because of his length and if eventually the length goes away. Now,
how much game do you have? How good are you?
You know, can you get can you hit the fairway
fairways and greens? And how good are you with a putter?
Like And I know sometimes guys lose their lose their putting.
We've seen it obviously from Tiger, but but his game

(28:29):
seems like it has it has a longer shelf life
because it's not built purely on power. Is that fair? Yeah,
it's it's not all about speed. I mean, I don't
want to go back to Wimbledon again, but it does
feel a little Betterer like, you know, it's just precise
and smart, and it seems like when he's out there,
he's got to higher right you than the guy's playing. Again,
I feel like that's what you're seeing with Jordan's speed.
And I think the Paul Pierce example is is a

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good one. I mean, that guy played, you know, for
decades in the NBA, and he had this game that,
for whatever reason, worked well against anyone. And I think
people hated playing against just because they knew he could.
He could sneak his way around almost outsmart his opponent,
and that's what you're seeing. I do think this though
Speech doesn't get enough credit for how good of a
ball striker he is. I think the fact that he
was such a good putter back in two thousand fIF

(29:11):
team when he win those majors, people really like to
look back at that. But the guy hits the ball
really really well too. I mean, let's not think he's
not a top five top kin ball striker. Shane Bacon
joining us in the doug alas, all right, what what
waits add of us for the p G A Well,
I mean, if Rory doesn't win this one, I would
start to sound the alarm at least a little bit.
I mean, this is the place that that Rory has

(29:32):
dominated his entire career. It's where he got his first
PG Tour win and he shot sixty one in the
final round. It's it's a big ballpark, and I mean
it's it's gonna play long, especially if it's still gonna
be wet over there in North Carolina. I just feel
like this has gotta be Rory's chance, and I'd love
to see him do it, because, like you said, we
go into the offseason then talking Rory versus Jordan's. So
I'm hoping that he does get to quill Hollow and

(29:53):
and has a little bit of the competence he at
least can take from a top five finish at the Open.
But you know, I mean, how do you not like
seeing Speaks go there and potentially win. You know, the
career Grand Slam would be the first one to ever
do it at a p J Championship and be a
fantastic Shane Baking and Fox Sports covering the world of golf.
Download his podcast, The Clubhouse Podcast, which has some great
golf analysis as well as some of the biggest guests
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(30:14):
opening was a good one. Thanks so much for joining
us and recap and it was with Shane. Yeah. Thanks,
pretty sure. The best picture in baseball is out for
more than a month. Is it a big deal, a
little deal or no deal? I'll tell you up coming next.
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many stories as possible. We play games. Those games are
located deep down in my sack. Here's Steve Seger. Let's
reach into Godlys sack. Hello, there's Steve. What he got

(31:28):
for me? Good afternoon to you? And uh, well, John,
what do we have? A big deal? Little deal? No deal? Okay,
we will give you these stories and dug and you
tell me Is it a big deal, little deal or
no deal? Number one about Clayton Kershaw Fox Sports Zone,
Ken Rosenthal reports that the Dodger star pitcher is expected
to miss four to six weeks based on the initial

(31:51):
diagnosis of his back that was injured yesterday. He came
out after two innings. The Dodgers will officially determine how
long he's out after he visits the team back specialist.
Is this a big deal, a little deal or no deal? Well,
I would say it would be a little deal, um,
because it would actually allow him to not have dead
arm getting ready for the playoffs, right, like a month

(32:11):
off would be a good thing. The problem is, didn't
he hurt his back last year? It was an actual
herning a disc and two and a half months out
last year that had the pain down the leg because
of pressing on the nerve. He didn't feel the pain
down the leg yesterday. Yeah, so, but the point is,
if you've hurt your back before and then you hurt
your back again, now a sudden, I started to get

(32:32):
super worried. I understand that it might not be the
same thing, and it might he might just scared himself.
But I don't know. I I think it's a it's
a big deal because it's the best picture in baseball.
They were the hottest. Yes, they were the hot. I
thought it was it would be a little deal just
to take time off, take a month off. It's not
his elbows on his shoulder. The problem is he had

(32:54):
hurt his back last year. It's a substantial amount of time.
Hurting your back again leads me to think it's a
big deal. And and he starts. The Dodgers are nineteen
and two this season. Story number two about Andrew Luck,
the cold star quarterback, will start training camp on the
physically unable to perform list, the pupulist. The expectation, according
to the GM today, is that he'll be ready to

(33:14):
start the regular season. They open against the Rams September tenth.
News isn't surprising, of course, he had the shoulder surgery
in January. Is this a big deal, little deal or
no deal? I'm gonna say it's a little deal because
it was expected. Granted, he's coming off a soldier surgery.
That give least anybody remer Cam Newton coming off soldier

(33:35):
surgery as well. Being on the publist to start camp
is not a big thing. Being on the publist to
finish camping in the preseason that is a big thing.
So I'll say it's uh, it's no deal. Uh. The
Colts GM, by the way, claims that Andrew has not
had any setbacks at all in the rehab process to
the David Price versus Dennis eckers Lee story report published
yesterday by The Boston Globe with more details that Price

(33:58):
the Red Sox pitcher Curt eck multiple times during their
confrontation last month on the team plane. The report sided
six firsthand witnesses three other sources with previously unreported details. Price,
according to the reports, student in front of eckers Lee
as the X pitcher boarded the team plan was walking
to the back and Price ls there he is the

(34:19):
greatest pitcher who ever laved. The game's easy for him.
He was upset about at comments on local TV broadcasts
and it got more personal after that. Yeah, I I
honestly think Prices way out of line. If you ever
heard Dennis secressly one, he's more than respectful too. He's
also honest. He's actually doing his job. He does a
national job, he does a local job, and he's good

(34:40):
at it. But Priceting's just be better. And to just
if he's unhappy in Boston, just at the end of
the year, going I'm unhappy in Boston. I'd like to go.
But the meantime he's acting like just to spoil Brad.
I get that the uh the alleged racist cat calls
against Adam Jones early this year really really affected him,

(35:02):
But I mean that that shouldn't affect Hollie. It feels
like that's affecting this Dennis accuracy thing. He's making a
huge deal, huge mountain out of them Hill And separately,
Price had already announced he's not going to speak to
the media on any days when he doesn't pitch. As well.
To another story, NBA, DeMarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis are
working out together this summer in l A and Vegas,
trying to get a head start on training camp course.

(35:24):
They had seventeen games of Cousin in a Pelicans uniform
after the blockbuster trade from Sacramento last season. Their stats
when they were together, Cousins twenty four points a game,
Davis twenty eight points a game, each double digits in rebounds.
Working out in the summer together, big deal, little deal
or no deal? No deal. Guys were goetting the summer
together all the time. I don't know why this is

(35:45):
a big deal because their new teammates is the implication.
So you guys work out with the guys that aren't
on their team in the summer, doesn't you know? It's
the that doesn't matter to me? All Right? We have
a college football story is a Big ten media days.
They've announced they'll had the first woman ever to work
the booth in a Big ten network game, doing play
by play for Northwestern home game mid September against Bowling Green.

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Will be Lisa Buyington, who was a two sport athlete
at Northwestern has done some play by play work, but
sideline reporter for BTN also host. Is this big deal,
little deal or no deal? I think it's a little deal.
I mean I think it's a deal that she's getting opportunity.
Remember it's Northwestern games, um um all. I care about

(36:27):
is are you competent, you're good or you fingernails and
a chalkboard and you know, like, let's see. But getting
opportunity is all you can ever hope for. Can you
take advantage of those opportunities as a broadcaster? Hopefully the
one the the additional opportunity to show get her based
upon her skill, not just the fact that she's the
first woman to do a big ten game. One final note,

(36:47):
our beloved producer Ryan has handed me this quote from
Stanford head football coach David Shaw talking about holding satellite
camps in SEC country. Coach Shaw says, it doesn't make
sense for us to go hold to camp someplace where
there might be one person in the entire state that's
eligible to get into Stanford. End quote. Big deal, little

(37:08):
deal or no deal. Yeah, that won't that won't play well.
The arrogance of Stanford on full display. I mean, while
there is there is some of that is is can
be realistic. Um, I think it's an overstatement and I
think I just think it shows how how Stanford carries
themselves like that. They do have legit student athletes. It

(37:29):
is a great thing, and they they select more than
they recruit but if you just said the pool isn't
deep enough to get a deep enough selection of recruits,
that's one thing to say one guy in the whole state.
That shows how what that shows what Stanford thinks of themselves.
That was Scott lead Sack. Yeah, that's like calling people

(37:52):
who are you know, all right you have our day?
Are um are hourly workers? Little people? Right? Like I
work with somebody at ESPN who one time she got
to the set and she looked at her papers and said,
they said, where's your scripts? Like I left at my
desk and the desks um are pretty much the opposite

(38:12):
ends of the earth from from where the Sports Center
studio was, And I remember her saying specifically, can one
of the workers get them? Now, technically, workers is not
a negative word. They are in fact working, but not
knowing somebody's name and suggesting that they're simply workers, nameless
faceless worker bees that can go that can that can
go sprint over your desk and get you a script

(38:33):
that you yourself should have brought. Like that's just there's
condescension there. That's the same thing for for Stanford, Stanford's
head football coach, right like this just a level of
condescension to which it's not needed. I'm not doubting that
it's really hard to get into Stanford, and I'm not
doubting that it would be a waste of money. But
do you really need to point out that I don't

(38:56):
feel like it did? People keep asking, thank keep asking,
how can Kyrie leave while playing with Lebron James. I'll
tell you that's up coming next in The Doug Gotleap Show.
As uh, we'll try and dig into what could the
possible motive and logic be behind Kyrie wanting out of Cleveland?

(39:17):
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(40:01):
He has AH he has a podcast, but he also
told Ben Roarbock of Ball don't lie quote, this is
what I'll say about this, and by the time he
gets out and whatever, we air this in a few days.
I don't know. I don't feel like there's a power
struggle with Lebron and Kyrie and Kevin Love. I think
Kyrie is hyper intelligent kids, really really smart. Doesn't have
credit get enough credit for how smart he is. I

(40:23):
think he's seeing that the franchise influx. I think he's
seen that David Griffin, watching David Griffin leave, the amount
of coaches. I think Kyrie has had a much tougher
time during the stretch of the organization than anyone really
wants to fully realize. He was number one pick right
after Lebron. He's had three different coaches than Lebron comes back.
Now there's trade rumors. Now it's Lebron's leaving. At some point,

(40:43):
anybody would want some sort of stability, even if it's unknown.
I don't know if he's asked to be traded. I
don't know this, but I will say that he's had
a tougher time if you look at his start where
we are now, the ups and downs of franchise more
than most. Even though we've been successful, even though we've
won a championship and he's been an All Star, there's
still so much of a wave you'd be like, Yo,

(41:05):
we're gonna sit here for a whole year whether or
not Lebron's coming back. That's gotta be tough on everybody. Yeah,
So I think what we're getting lost on is this
is what happens is we're getting lost on reasons. And look,

(41:25):
some of it might be Brian Windhorse fault, someone might
be who's ever telling Brian winner. Some of it might
be Kyrie's fault. But if you simply said Kyrie, if
I said Kyrie wants to leave because dude, everybody knows
Lebron's leaving and he wants to get out before the
ship sinks, I don't think you'd have nearly as visceral

(41:46):
reaction as we've had recently. When people here Kyrie wants
to get out of Lebron Shadow have his own team.
Now of a sudden, you're like, wait a second. When
things happen they don't happen for one reason. There's not
one sole reason that something happens. There's a myriad of reasons.

(42:09):
Whichever reason is the most was the strongest. That's the
reason that kind of pushes you over the edge. But
that doesn't mean it's always the reason that's reported. Is
it fair? I'm just asking you, as a sports fan,
is it fair to categorize the Cleveland Cavalier's future as
very blurry? The answer is yes. Is it fair to hypothesized,

(42:33):
not theorized, hypothesized that Lebron James will leave at the
end of the season. It's fair? Is it fair to
say that it's weird, at least weird strange that the Calves,
having gone to three straight NBA Finals, could not hire
a legitimate, legitimate general manager. I think it's it's very strange.

(43:00):
So if all of these things are a little bit odd,
and they're in cap hell and it doesn't feel like
they can make a move, and somebody is they had
bad luck, right, they had bad luck. They want to
make the trade for Paul George. I don't know if
Paul George puts them over the top, because they do
would have lost Kevin Love, but they want to make
a move for Paul George and Kevin Pritchard would not

(43:22):
pick back up the phone, would not engage with them
on the final discussions of a trade proposal. So, if
all of these things are fair, isn't Kyrie doing what's
actually smart? Isn't he getting out ahead of it? Isn't
he selling high? And I think it's also fair fair

(43:43):
to believe that Kyrie Irving probably didn't leak this story.
Who did leaked this story? Who does it benefit the most?
Especially in the tone in which it was leaked. My
best guest is the Bronze people leaked this story, all right,
That's my best guess. And while you might say, why
would he do that? He hurts his trade value, he

(44:04):
hears the he hurts Kyrie's trade value, maybe, but he
also makes it look like Kyrie is the bad guy.
He's not the bad guy, which has been what lebron
James has tried to do his entire career. He's never
the bad guy. He tried to be the bad guy
once in Miami. That that's that robe did not fit him.

(44:26):
So when I look at Kyrie Irving, I try and
take a neutral approach to it. I was in a
bit of denial about Lebron leaving, like I don't think
he's ever leaving, but everybody in the NBA seem as
the thing gets a possibility, and that there really is
strife between he and the owner, and that he really
has gotten to the point where he just he wants

(44:47):
to be for championships, but it's more about where he
wants to be. And then last week we had that
press conference in which Cantavius Callwell Pope was brought into
the Lakers and he was compared to being a gift
from heaven. So he was, and they were glapping up
Rich Paul. Oh my god, it's Rich Paul amazing. While
he's amazing, he's amazing, He's amazing. And then you look

(45:11):
at what happened in Phoenix where James Jones, totally unqualified,
fresh off the bench, not the court, the bench, was
hired as assistant general manager player personnel, the assistant director
of player personnel for the Phoenix Suns. Why did everybody
knows James Jones's boys with the King. Both teams have
top young talent, Both teams are gonna have cap space
next year. Both teams want to be players for Lebron

(45:34):
James and while it doesn't mean he leaves Cleveland behind.
Then you factor in the search for a GM, which
ended up with somebody Kobe Altman nobody had ever heard of.
Then you factor in there in Capel they don't seem
to be in love with Kevin Love, nor can they
get appropriate value for him, and return in Paul George
is already gone. And then you ask yourself, wait a second,

(45:55):
of your Kyrie Irving, why not sell high? Why not
get out now? Why the last one standing when Lebron leaves?
And then trying to pick up the pieces. If you're Kyrie,
you remember what it was like pre Lebron, You remember
it was just playing Cleveland. At the end of the day.
It goes back to being Cleveland, the place that is
really really hard to stay there a long time and

(46:17):
think you're going to win. At the end of the day.
It's Dan Gilbert. Like it's okay for Lebron to not
like Dan Gilbert, it's not okay for Kyrie River and
to say I got away to get away from this guy.
So look, do I think there's there's that Kyrie is
a little bit too smart for his own good. Absolutely,
I think all of these guys are too smart for

(46:39):
their own good. I think many of these guys they
overthink things. I'm guilty of overthinking things instead of just
letting just letting it be, just letting it play out
and ultimately it will work out in the end. That said,
that said, I don't think it's crazy to think. Look,
I see an iceberg dead ahead. I know we cannot

(46:59):
serve to avoided. My guess is that that iceberg is
gonna gouge a hole in the side of our hull.
What if Kyrie is lowering that that rescue boat before
they ever hit the iceberg. That's what it feels like
to me. So it's always interesting to me on how

(47:21):
the kind of narrative is set and like, do you
really think Kyrie Irving would be He's because because parts
of the story don't match up. Kyrie wants to be
the guy, is what we're told, But he wants to
go to San Antonio. Well, you don't want to be
the guy if you want to go to San Antonio.
Kauai is the guy if you go to San Antonio.
Seems to me he wants a more uh, he wants

(47:44):
a more stable organization. Who wants more stability. And while
you say, well, the Knicks aren't stable, it's not actually true.
Once now they have a new regime and a new
general manager, they're not gonna get rid of that general
manager within the first year or two years. And it's
kind of where he's from. He wants to play with

(48:05):
another star, and he's trying to pick places where other
stars are located. He wants to try and get ahead
of it. There's a guy that wants to sell before
the stock collapses. There's a guy that wants to reinvest
his money in a different in a different company. That's smart.
It may be too smart. It may be getting out
too soon. It may not be reading all the benefits.

(48:27):
If you win one more title, to win two titles now,
you separate yourself from a lot of people with one
end one NBA title. But Kyrie to this point thinks,
why sell out for one title and then get stuck
for two more years in Cleveland when I can get
out now and potentially be competitive for a title in
the years to come, and be happier in the process
and not get caught in an ugly divorce. Because it's

(48:49):
going to be a divorce between Lebron and Dan Gilbert,
and you'll be forced to choose, and you choose one
side it or the other. You choose the owner's side,
and I become the owner's boy. Boy, and guys and
the other players in the NBA might not respect you.
You become Lebron's boy, but Lebron can't take you with him.

(49:13):
Hard deal man, our deal. John bones Jones joins us.
Up coming next, how prepared is he to fight Daniel
Cormier after not fighting in over a year. I will
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(49:54):
Sports Radio. John Jones told us he's running little late.
We're gonna get to him after we get to what's
trending at half past the hour. Um, I saw this
story and I thought it was really, really interesting and
maybe I want your perspective on it, I'll give you mine.
We had we had read that that article in m ESPN,

(50:15):
the magazine, which at first members of the Seattle Seahawks
said was not true. Richard Sherman says, it's true that
Richard German and Russell Wilson have gotten into it over time.
There was the story detailed tension between Sherman and Wilson
and the friction went in the locker room. Sherman told

(50:36):
U Sports Center, that's true. I've said worse to Doug Baldwin.
I've said worse to Jermaine Curse. Iron sharpens iron as
one man sharpens another. I'm sorry, that's our competition. That's
the way we sharpened iron. It's uh, it's it's petty.
It's pretty and cordial. Oh excuse me. It isn't pretty

(50:58):
In cold and cordial, that makes more sense. I'm sure
that if you went to see bad teams, they probably
get along great. I'm sure they're slapping high fives. But
then again, you go four and twelve. Sherman disputed this story,
claimed there's tension within the locker room, saying we're pros.
We hang out from time to tell him. We get along.
Everybody gets along, Sherman told the ESPN dot Com. But

(51:19):
my relationship with Russell is the same as his with
Doug Baldwin. Or is it the same as his with
Bobby Wagner. No, but is his relationship the same with
me as it is Um, Tyler Lockett or Justin Britt.
It's just different dynamics. But as teammates were phenomenal. Every
single person on every single team doesn't hang out. I
don't see anybody getting mad at Tom Brady isn't hanging

(51:40):
out with Malcolm Butler. Um Like, Hey, Tom, you and
Malcolm hang out. You guys don't what's going on there?
You know what I mean? What's uh? What are we
talking about? They're trying to create a story that isn't there.
I think this is one of those deals to where

(52:00):
Richard Sherman still doesn't understand how he's perceived. And he
also look, you can talk trash to a teammate, you
can get in a teammate's face. I've never had any
problem with that. I just happened, you know, I haven't
had any problem with There are guys in the media
to which you cannot you cannot play their sound on

(52:20):
radio and then make fun of their opinion. You can
like that. Like my way of looking at it is
like you can make fun of my opinion. You can
think my opinion is it's still my opinion and it
comes from someplace like I don't just make things up.
I have a logic and a sense and sensibility, and
I talked to people within sports leagues and I'm watching
the sports to feel like I know kind of my opinion,

(52:41):
Like I'm okay with You want to pull sound and
make make fun of me, fine, I don't care. There
are the people that that do. As long as you
don't make fun of me the person say I'm an idiot,
you can say that's an idiotic take fine. Uh, here's
maybe a better example of it. Music. Did you hang
around Friday for Speak for yourself? You took off, didn't you?

(53:03):
After the show we came talked to in college? You did.
I was in your dressing room for a minute and
then I took off. I'm not I'm not a big
TV big wig like you weren't a TV big way
a big way I was. I was filling in for,
filling in for I was guesting on the show anyway,
So during the first segment, Jason Wentlock is the host

(53:23):
of Speak for Yourself. He wanted to come back around
to him before he teed off like the second part,
and that's when the graphics could have worked whatever. And
in the process of the discussion, I organically took us
to the second point. So he stops. Scott got stop, stop,
that's not what we're doing. And he was right. He

(53:44):
had told us beforehand that he wanted to take us
to the second topic. I had forgotten, or I had
and forgotten, but I just kind of just felt like
an organic transition to which I took the bait and
I went with it instead. He wanted to tee it
up because it worked better for the graphics and it
made more sense. So retaped. It was fine, It was
probably it was better the second time. That was the
first time. I'm driving home and I get a call

(54:05):
from one of the producers, Hey, man, are you okay
with how things went? I was like, yeah, what what
do you mean, Well, you know we cut that first segment.
It's like, yeah, we redid it. Well, we didn't want
your feelings here. It was like my feelings weren't hurt,
Like uh, we were supposed to do it one way,
we didn't do it that way. We cut, we stopped,
we redid it. It was better. What's the point. We
just want to make sure. You didn't have to make sure.

(54:27):
So I do think there's a certain like athletes have
been coached their whole lives, They've been corrected their whole lives.
They've been taunted their whole lives. And a little ball busting,
a little trash talking. I've never heard anybody. The point
that Sherman seems to be missing is the way he
views it is. Hey, this is however, this is how

(54:49):
we do it, iron Sharpen's iron, this is how we roll.
We talked trash to them, they talked tras to us.
It isn't pretty, it isn't cordial. The story wouldn't got
me yesp in the magazine and wouldn't have been portrayed
in the type of negative life it was. It was
portrayed in unless somebody had a problem with it, right,
unless somebody had a problem with it, Like, just because

(55:12):
you can take it doesn't mean that Russell Wilson likes
the way you're giving it or can take it himself.
What do you thoughts music, Well, do you think that
perhaps what happened was with Russell Wilson being a later
draft pick, right like, he wasn't like their first round
quarterback air apparent, He actually was a late round draft pick,

(55:34):
came in, won the job, and in their early success
he wasn't even really seen as their leader on offense
per se because of Marshawn Lynch. Do you think what
sort of happened here was Richard Sherman and the defense
always set the tone and did things a certain way,
and then once Russell Wilson sort of came onto the

(55:54):
scene and became one of the highest paid players in
the NFL, won a Super Bowl, they got back to
another Super Bowl, and it's now gotten to the point
where Russell Wilson's kind of starting to hit back because
he's not that rookie anymore, and so he's going like,
you know what, I know, this is how we've always
done it, but guess what, I'm not cool with it
anymore like I've had it. And that's why there's this
tension here, no question, no question. Look looks some of

(56:18):
it is that I think Russell Wilson is not nearly
as self confident as he would lead you to believe.
Like I've been told, Russell Wilson was like when they
brought Colin kaepern again, he was like, No, that guy's
not gonna be in my backup. I got enough stuff
going on. Um and I and I do think that
Richard Sherman uh thinks that there are is not all

(56:40):
in on Russell Wilson being able to win them games
on his own. That that that the defense never really again, look,
some athletes like nobody believed in us when plenty of
people believed in them. So their defense, there's a pretty
good chance that their defense things, Hey, nobody thinks we
can do this on our own, even though they kind
of did for a long time. They needed both to

(57:02):
work together. But the defense is a big party, probably
the biggest part of their success. And yet Russell Wilson
gets a bigger part of the contract. That's the nature
of so. I think some of it comes down to money,
some of it comes down to ego. Someone comes out
of difference in personality. Some of it comes out to
Russell Russell Wilson like, hey, I'm not the third round
pick that won the job making less than a million
dollars I'm the franchise quarterback. Treat me like the franchise quarterback.

(57:28):
So this is one of those he ain't wrong. He
might not be right, he might be letting his feelings
get in the way, but you kind of do understand
a little bit. I think it's fascinating. I think this.
I think the Seahawks are at a point now where
it's almost it's almost like a Kyrie Lebron thing where

(57:51):
it's so tenuous and it's maybe a little bit different
with football because they do play on just like two
totally different ends of the field obviously with offense and defense.
But it almost feels like they need to like get
rid of Sherman or do something. But they tried to.
They tried to. I mean like, look, this is it's
this is what they tried. They wanted the appropriate value

(58:12):
for it. Right, They're not just gonna give him up. No,
I'm not just getting to give him up. But um,
you know this, this feels like it's headed for divorce.
This these headed for divorce things. We can see a
mile away. You go out with a couple of people
and anybody who's you're just ran. You're not yet at

(58:32):
that stage where all your friends are married. I am.
Now all my friends are creeping in their forties, and like,
not everybody's heading like this is why everybody's head for divorce.
Not really, But there are a couple there's couples to
which are very much in love. There's couples to which
you're just like, Okay, well that's going to be a
problem for a long time and it's not going to
get any better. They just personalities kind of grow apart.

(58:53):
And that's kind of what feels like it's happened in Seattle.
Like Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson both drafted um away
from the first round. Both have overachieved based upon their
draft possession. Both have been well compensated financially, and I
think both have an amount of jealousy that energizes them,

(59:14):
turbo charges them to become far better than they maybe
should be. But Richard Sherman, assuming that everybody likes their chops,
bust did everybody likes it when you talk trash and
you're not cordial and you're not respectful. Not everybody's like that. Now,
everybody's like that. I call people dude, right, that's kind

(59:34):
of my when I see people I what's up, dude? Like,
I'm a dude guy, but you know, I don't call dude.
I try not to call Don Martin or Scott Shapiro
right right, Like I don't walk into Fox Sports we're like,
oh hey, Eric Janin's what's up? Due? You know, I don't.
That's not my that's not my thing. There's a so
and and the point could be or John ends like
it was up. Dude. You can't do that, even if

(59:56):
at some point in time you are in fact friends.
There's a certain level of decorman respect. When the cowherd
Collins my friend, Like, but I don't treat him with
with a lack of respect in person, not just because uh,
you know he's killing it financially, he's been doing it
a little bit longer. That's just kind of how you roll.
And I I think I see some of Russell Wilson

(01:00:18):
and look, some of this is. That's who Russell Wilson is.
Anytime you need to what rub there's people are rubbed
wrong by Russell. Well, I'm not saying Richard Sherman's the devil.
He's not. He's not. But you gotta know who you're
talking trash. You've got to know that. This is the
same Russell Wilson who when they win, he wants to
talk about God and that makes a lot of people

(01:00:38):
roll their eyes. But there's a guy who kind of
is searching for who he is, right. Remember he had
the thing with Ciarro where they were they were uh,
they were abstaining until they were married, even though she
already had a kid. Is like, what is the what
is the point? It's like, I'm not going to drive
a used car until I buy it, even though somebody
has already driven the car. I don't know how to
get that um So like people have thought for a

(01:01:04):
long time, Russell Wilson's a phony. People have thought for
a long time, Richard Sherman's over the top and doesn't
know to Corman Camp keep his mouth shut, and these
two won't coexist much longer. But Richard Sherman's Richard Sherman,
by the way, saying that part of the story is true,
tells you that all the story is true, just the
tone was not taken from his perspective. UFC two four

(01:01:30):
is upcoming this Saturday, July twenty nine at the Honda
Center in Anaheim. The main event is between Daniel Cormier
and John Bones Jones. Jones won the first match by
unanimous decision, but he's been away from the octagon for
over a year. Can you beat Cormier with with that rest?

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(01:02:13):
Center in Anaheim. You guys know I've only played one
two games Nanaheim and O and two right you know? Then?
You know? So um uh so, I like, I'm I'm
fascinated by the Honda Center. Should I? I kind of
think I should go? We guess think music you think

(01:02:36):
I should go to this thing? I mean, I haven't
been to a I haven't been to a UFC. I
haven't been to a UFC event ever ever. And I
get to see John Bones Jones going against Daniel Cormier.
We haven't seen Bones Jones in an octagon uh in
over a year? In over a year. All right, let's

(01:02:59):
find out if he's read is he's ready to join us? Bones?
How are you? Hey, I'm doing great. How are you
good for any of us who are concerned? Hey, he's
going to be rusty. How can you alleviate those concerns? Uh? Well,
um by just going out there and I don't want
to do I mean, you know, I have an open,

(01:03:21):
sent proof fight, and uh and it was a fight
that I wasn't too impressed with. I had a lot
of questions and a lot of doubt. But you know,
I feel like that fact was necessary because now I
know kind of how to deal with that, and I
feel like I've mentally addressed it. And Laudarian spread my
wings and fly. All right, So what what did you address?

(01:03:43):
What specifically did you say? Look, I went, I watched
the tape against St Pro, and I had to fix it.
It wasn't really matter me watching tape to address it.
I just remember the way I felt, and I remember
why I felt that way, and and I'm gonna make
a concert effort just to make sure that that isn't
happening again. I mean, ultimately, even that fight was it

(01:04:05):
was a one sided, unanimous desips in victory. So I mean, so,
you know, I just feel good going to fight, you know,
really good. Has he gotten better David for me? No,
I don't think he has. I think it's an experience
has gone up. That's how we met. But I don't
think he has. Technique wise, I don't think he's really

(01:04:26):
shown me any major improvements or changes in this game
from my phone or years. I don't know. Jon Bones
Jones joining us on the Doug GALTI show, guys, can
we try and adjust his static? I don't know, Like
in my headset, it sounds okay, So I guess it's
coming from coming from the phone line. They're saying it
sounds good, So it might just be in your year.

(01:04:47):
Doesn't feel like it's coming out over the air. You've
beaten six, you've beaten six Hall of famers, and you
want to make the case to be the greatest fighter
in the history of the Octagon. But it's some of that.
It's it's frankly the stuff outside the octagon, which is
the only thing that people can point to to keep
you away from that. So how important is this showing

(01:05:07):
uh in trying to continue to build and maybe even
rebuild that reputation. Well, well, I think when it comes
to my dominant as a much a lot of it,
I don't think the stuff outside of the octagon. I
mean I don't think it really matters. I mean you
look at guys like, uh, let's say, like Mike Tyson.
Not that I want to be in the same ballpark,

(01:05:28):
you know, as far as you know outside of the
the ring reputation, But I mean you can never dispute
or deny my classom being the baddest dude of his
of his era. And so I do feel like I'm
the baddest due to my era. I mean, I'm in
the records speak for itself. Yeah, it's the but it's
it's the it's it's the only point you can point
to as the layoffs, right, which it's also hurts you

(01:05:51):
in in the pocket in terms of financially. I mean
that's more than anything like I would agree. When you're
when you're right, when you're in the octagon, there's no
question about your legitimacy. It's been it's been those things. Um,
all right, So do you even you you mentioned your
last fight, you didn't go back in terms of video,
have you even gone back in reviewed the last Cormier fight.
I know it was a fairly easy unanimous decision from

(01:06:13):
your perspective. Do you even go back and review that? Yeah? Absolutely,
I go back and I watched that fight all the time,
and I feel like I learned a lot from it
for sure. Yeah. How will we know if the fight
is going the way you wanted to go? Um? Well, well, mentally,
you know, I'm just preparing myself to to just to

(01:06:35):
be free and to have fun and just to have
faith and just to believe um. And you know when
I do that, things usually go well for me. So
that's that's just the plan. Because have you seen me
right away, you know, smiling and embrace it and high
five and the fans and just seeming like, uh, just

(01:06:55):
a grateful, happy dude, know that things are going well.
How come you hashtag cheating a hole uh in in
the instagram with Cormier weighing in because Daniel Cormier, Um,
he uh. He did an old wrestling trick where he
was he was a pound point two over two oh

(01:07:17):
five are weight class and he had to surprisingly two
UFC fat members hold up a towel and uh and
he rested his hands on the towel while standing on
the scale, and he lifted himself off the scale and
got his weight down to two oh five. And normally,
if you are even pointing one over two oh five,

(01:07:39):
you automatically have to give of your purse to your opponents.
So he saved himself by cheating, and uh, and I
just thought it was super unfair. That's uh, that's a
John Bones Joe. You can follow him on Instagram at
Johnny Bones. He joins us in the Doug Galla Show.
Of course, the pre limbs are on FS one and

(01:08:00):
the main event, the main card is on pay per view.
He joins US's getting ready for Daniel Cormier. That's at
the Hans Center this Saturday night. It's going to be
a sell out. It's going to be obscenely loud in there. Uh.
McGregor is gonna fight Mayweather as as arguably the greatest
of all time. When in the octagon, what's you're feeling
about McGregor. You're rooting for or against him in fighting

(01:08:22):
against Floyd? I am I'm not rooting for anyone and
the fight. I'm just excited to watch it as a fan.
I think it's gonna be so great for our sport
to bring some of those Boxton fans over. And then
I think it's gonna be great for Boston because I
feel like Boxton is a little bit dry without Floyd Mayweather.
So I mean the whole world, even the Commons fan,

(01:08:43):
uh you know, people who aren't die hard UFCR boxing
fans are gonna be tuning into this. So it's just
great for combat sports and I'm just I'm just so
grateful for it. Event does he have any chance? He
does have a chance. Every I feel like everyone has
a punchers chance. I mean, if if you were to
take a wing at me, I mean there's a chance
that may not block it. Um, everyone has a fighter's chance,

(01:09:05):
that punch's chance. I think in this case, though, it's
very unlikely that McGregor will pull up the wind only
because uh, I mean, Floyd may Whether has been doing
this since he was a young young boy, and and
there's really no tricks that a guy like Maywhether it
hasn't seen at this point. And as far as maybe
whether having I'm sorry McGregor having beautiful knockout power, I mean,

(01:09:28):
everyone at that world championship level has has enoughout power. Yeah,
it's a matter of being able to win that punch,
which I mean the greatest sponsors that he's been against
haven't been able to do so. Yeah, I mean he's
arguably Say what you want about Floyd's power or lack thereof,
the fact is he's you know, and maybe he slows
down a little bit, but he's arguably the greatest defensive

(01:09:50):
fighter we've ever seen. And if the if, the if,
the one chance that McGregor has is that one knockout punch,
it's it's prohibitbly more more unlike the York probably yeah,
but more unlikely that it would happen against Floyd than
it would be somebody who feels like they could take
a punch because because you know, if that's a guy
that has has raw striking power, uh, I just you

(01:10:12):
feel like there's a lack of fluidity because it's not
your chosen discipline. Exactly. Like if you, if you really
think about it, if you, if you really think about it,
you don't think Miguel Koto has unbelievable n tough power
or like a Carnello. I mean, for all the people
who are just saying mcgregy's gonna want it, because you
can knock do out with one punch just like that.
What a what a blind statement to make. I mean,

(01:10:34):
all these guys cannot do out with one punch, but
no one has been able to do it against the
dialect Mayweather. Guys who have been boxing since they were
little boys, just like Floyd Mayweather haven't been able to
land that big punch because of the brilliant with Floyd Mayweather.
So I mean you gotta you gotta be. I mean,
it's switchful thinking, the thing having power. It's like seeing
a guy who who can dead let's I don't know,

(01:10:56):
a thousand pounds and saying, oh he'll he'll kick John
is as because he's really strong. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's not how it works. There's an art. There's there's
an art to it, right, I mean like again, you've
you've done this, you've studied this, that there's an art
to it, and when you change discipline, it's it's really difficult.
I think. The other thing you concern yourself about is
a with Floyd is it does he respect Connor right? Like?

(01:11:19):
Does he You mentioned Tyson? Right? When Tyson was beaten
in Japan, it was because he didn't respect Buster Douglas.
He didn't come in in shape. And people have asked
that question about you, like, look, you tweeted out month.
I believe it was Monday, right. I have zero respect
for you. Uh you blank, You're going to really hate
me by the time I'm done with you. There is
the one question about you versus Cormier is as you said,

(01:11:42):
it wasn't wasn't the toughest fight for you last time.
Have you trained with the proper amount of respect for
Daniel Cormier? Could he sneak up on you? Absolutely so.
I've been undefeated for ten years now. Boyd Maywel has
been undefeated for over twenty years. And I think, I
think what makes an athlete capable of doing things like that,
it's not that they're they're special any really more special

(01:12:04):
than the next man. It's a part of the victory
is the fear that motives at knowing that we're just human,
knowing that we can be dropped, we can be what
we can mean not do out like any other guy,
and that fear um and motivations to do the extra,
to be obsessed with this art and and uh absolutely
great fighters know that you have to respect to everyone

(01:12:25):
that you can never take anyone lately, despite you know
what the optmakers say. It's good to have you back
in the odd con can't wait to see against Cormier
and uh, well, we'll see if you're as dominant as
you were last time and as you have been in
the past. Thanks much for Jonas, John, Thank you, sir,
I appreciate being on the show. All right, that's John
Bones Jones who takes on Daniel Cormier part of an

(01:12:45):
outstanding card this Saturday night at the Hanna Center in Anaheim.
UFC two fourteen available on pay per view. Reminder the
pre limbs or on f S one. Uh Colin Cowherd
has made Kyrie Irving his punching bag. You'll find out
what the Fox said next. When you're ready to experience

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I don't know if you can realize this, but we
got the NBA to think, um, but summer is almost

(01:13:26):
over right, like training camps are here. Football is almost
a post. Like we're almost there. Like, we're almost there,
but we we have the NBA to react to. We
got other stuff to react to. We we have a
great lineup of personality starting with Clay Travis feeding into
Dan Patrick, to Colin Calherd too rich Eyes into me,

(01:13:49):
to the Gorman Boys, to Ben Mallord, Jason Smith, j
t the Brick. We had great show, great shows, but
occasionally they say stuff that we gotta comment on. That's
where you play and now what does the fox say?
What does the fox say? Colin Coward was back. Let's

(01:14:09):
listen to him, lax poetic about how great Lebron James is.
The great thing that's happening in the NBA. If Lebron
and Kyrie get a divorce, the winners are the Celtics
and the Lakers, because the Celtics are then going to
dominate the East for the next ten years and Lebron James,
don't kid yourself, is considering the Lakers. Here's one thing
Michael Jordan didn't do. He didn't win with two teams.

(01:14:31):
He certainly didn't win titles with three teams. If Lebron
James could win in Miami, Cleveland and Los Angeles, who's
done that? Like in all his businesses out here in
Los Angeles. So let's be honest. The NBA is better
when the Lakers and the Celtics are good. The NBA

(01:14:51):
is better when the Lake it's Lakers, Celtics or Nicks
or you know, the major market teams or teams, and
they need teams in the Eastern seaboard to be good.
But um, that is spin doctoring to end all spin doctoring.
Right like that, they named a Knew White House spokesman spokesman,
but if they ever need another one, just turn everything

(01:15:14):
he says about Lebron into everything he says about Donald Trump. Right.
Let me just tell you now, Michael Jordan's never won
titles with three different franchises. That's true. Michael Jordan never
actually lost in the NBA finals either. He didn't get
a coach fired mid season, his other star players didn't

(01:15:36):
want to leave him mid run um and though he
got into spats with ownership, never to the point of
forcing their hand in allowing him to part as a
free agent. It was a different era. It's a different story.
But let's not act like Michael Jordan was somehow an
inferior player because he didn't have to hop scotch around
the country in order to get his franchise over the top.

(01:16:01):
So that is some spin doctor and spin doctor and uh,
let's get to uh, let's get to something that Adam
Silver said on The Rich Eyes and Show. Let's make
it transparent, let's regulate it, and we get it. What
comes with regulation is government oversight that doesn't currently exist,
both on a federal and state level, in the same

(01:16:23):
way that there's oversight of casinos. Yeah, Adam Silver wance
legalized gambling, sports gambling nationwide. We have that in Las Vegas, right,
I Mean it's really funny when people well, well, you know,
why don't we just regulate it? Why don't we just
monitor it? They do in Las Vegas and you can

(01:16:44):
funnel everything and run things through Las Vegas. And yet
sports teams for years, even the NBA has been hesitant
to allow professional sports teams to call Las Vegas home.
Why well, they got gambling. Like this is talking out
of one side of your mouth and doing the absolute
the other, right, Like, I don't think what I'm Silver
saying is wrong. They just regulated, just like they do

(01:17:06):
anything else, Like they do in the casinos, they do
sports gambling in Nevada is highly regulated and yet and
yet Adam Silver is like, we don't really want to
put a team in Las Vegas. By the way to
other sports, Um, two other sports have put teams in
Las Vegas, NHL, NBA, and I think the NBA is NHL, NFL,

(01:17:26):
and I think the NBA is probably going to be
kicking themselves over not uh not putting a team into
this point. Now, they'd be the third into the market.
So and it's not a huge market, it's not a
big thing. But I do think it's contradictory for Silver
Silver to tell lies in that it's not. Yeah, like

(01:17:49):
people are really scared of sports gambling, but they really
sportive scant sports gambling because of the Black Sox scandle
And don't get me wrong, it can spiral out of control,
much like it did with Pete Rose, it does with
other UH amateur athletes that start throwing games. The difference
in the NFL, the NBA, and to a lesser extent,
the NHL is at some point guys make too much
money to be on the take forty grand. It's gotta

(01:18:14):
be millions of dollars to which if that amount of
money is paid for somebody to dump a game it
because it's way too traceable, way to trace, which which
brings us back to one of the original sayings of
the show, which is there are no more secrets, only
facts yet to be revealed. You can listen to the
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(01:18:36):
or does he find out next? What it's The Doug
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get to this hour. M m mm hmmmmm. All right,

(01:18:56):
I gotta I got a story to tell that I
haven't told you guys about. All right, so you guys
are aware that, uh that I'm moving from connecticu California, right,
you guys are aware of that, Ramos, Yes, I am,
and I had no idea, Okay, okay, alright. So so
here's my weekend. So Friday I had the hosted The

(01:19:17):
Herd and then Friday night I flew up to Boston
red Eye, got in the car, drove a couple of
hours to visit my kids up in summer camp. They're
up in uh the main New Hampshire Border summer campus.
Great spent the whole day with them. Then we drove
down to Connecticut and spent the last night in the
state of Connecticut. Live twelve of the last fourteen years
of my life in the state of Connecticut. So uh Sunday. Sunday,

(01:19:38):
we um one last walk through through the house, said
goodbye to a couple of the neighbors. We actually used
True Car to to trade in and sell our car,
one of our cars, the other one. My wife is
driving through. She's gonna drive the dog and like, look,
I said, why don't you just make the dog a
service dog? But she's like, I can't do that. I
just I can't. Plus she kind of wants to. She

(01:20:01):
kind of wants a road trip. I was like, you
want me to road trip with me? She's like, you can't.
You gotta do radio. I was like, well we could
find now I want to do it. I don't want to.
She knows we both like to drive. She actually gets
car sick when she doesn't drive. So she's driving switching
cars out in Oklahoma. She's got her mom with her.
I think her dad's gonna come with her. They're gonna
stop like they're in Gatlinburg today. They were in d C.
You should, by the way, boys, you should follow her

(01:20:21):
on Twitter. She's doing Roadie Odi Odie is my dog's name. Uh,
some pretty funny stuff. She's got some pretty clever I
g s that she that she's she's had so far
in d C. I think she's going to Gatlinburg and
then I don't know where she's going. Uh, she's gonna
see your folks and stay at their place for a
couple of days, see some friends, then make her way
through to I think she wants to do Santa Fe

(01:20:42):
and Sedona and the Grand Canyon and then out to California.
Totally non guy road trip. Like I'm like, oh, why
don't you go to Vegas? Like I don't want to
go to Vegas? And why on it's Vegas? So um anyway,
so she took the dog. You guys are aware we
have a cat, right, I do not know you had
a cat us. We have a cat and we For
the record, it's actually a really cool cat. Like my

(01:21:04):
cat is cool. I like my cat, or I liked
my cat. I don't use past tense because the cat died.
The cat is very much living. Let me tell you
what happened. So yesterday I flew out through Charlotte into
Oklahoma where I gave a speech today. Let's talk about
two hours at the Oklahoma Coaches Convention high school coaches,

(01:21:27):
junior college coaches, girls coaches as well. And so it's
something I do every year. I have a great friend
named Randy Biford who has several car dealerships. He sponsors.
He sponsors it, he sponsors me and I do it
and it's kind of like an open discussion for him
where I give some of my philosophies and traveling the country,
things I've learned from and covering college basketball now some

(01:21:47):
of the things I call upon when I I I
coached myself. So um, So we fly to all the
Charlotte flight is about two hours, two and a half hours,
and there's thunderstorms, so we're circling a little bit before
we actually land, and as we're landing, there's a smell

(01:22:10):
on the plane that is just horrendous, I mean worse
than any like you know when there's when you're on
a plane and somebody breaks. When you look around and
try and find out who the feller is, you know,
the smellers, the feller you're trying to look around and
find out who it is. But worse than that smell,
I couldn't figure out what it was coming from the engine. Well,
it was just an awful, awful smell. So then we

(01:22:33):
land and because of the thunderstorm and the lightning, they
won't let us get off the plane until the lightning subsides.
It's an hour on the plane and this smell is
still just emanating from somewhere on the plane. I go
to grab my cat's in a soft case underneath the
chair in front of me, and guess where the smell
is coming from? Yeah, so I thought maybe it was

(01:22:57):
just like gas from the sure or something like that
from the cat. And then I look and there is
cat poop in there. The cat is smeared in the
cat poop, and I have a two and a half
hour delay in the airport. All right, So what do
you do in this case? Ramos? What do you do? Ah,
you're getting off the plane to wait? Is that what's

(01:23:18):
going on? Yep? Okay, you're probably have to take the
cat into the restroom and clean them off. Yep, that's
what I did. Listen, I have I I've raised twins,
um and when you raise twins, things poop. Stuff goes wrong, right,
diapers get uh, there are poops that go through diapers.
It gets smeared everywhere, it gets into clothes. Anybody's had kids,

(01:23:39):
they understand explosive diarrhea. I actually had up when my
girls were two. I sent my wife on a ski
trip with her friends to Aspen, and of course the
second she leaves, they got it was coming out both ends.
It was all over their cribs and I had to
one to make sure they were okay and to clean
up their rooms. It was disguy, this was worse by

(01:24:02):
a factor of ten. Let me tell you why. The
First thing is, um, it's a cat, so you can't like,
there's no calming down a cat that has cat that
poop smeared all over it, right, So just that doesn't happen.
Second thing is we're in an airport and there's really
not any facilities other than the normal sink to clean
it off. Third thing is I still have this case

(01:24:23):
that I had to clean the case. So I go
to the bathroom, I clean out the case while having
the cat on almost like a leash type of thing,
and the cat is me owing and going crazy. Then
I have to clean out there and remember I have
to clean all this off essentially with my hand. Then
I had to wash my hand and my shirt. It

(01:24:43):
was disgusting. Um, I could never I've never said that
I am a cat guy. But I liked my cat.
I really and I even now to this day, like
like the cat is still It is not cat's fault
that I couldn't hold it and pooped in the thing,
But I wanted to say I liked my cat. I
can tell you that I wasn't a cat guy before,

(01:25:03):
but I'm definitely not a cat guy now. Um that's
my story. With that, we get back to sports. Richard
Jefferson has now given us kind of some substance, his
kind of thought on what's going on Kyrie Irving. It
was leaked out Friday wants to be traded from the
Cleveland Cavaliers. Wants to be traded from the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now,

(01:25:27):
would you have to also remember, as you go back,
before David Griffin was was not retained, there was talk
of trading Kyrie Irving. From the owner's perspective, that's what
the owner wanted David Griffin to explore, trading Kyrie Irving.
So while while the side note to the report is
he wanted to be trade. He wants to be traded

(01:25:48):
because he wants to be the lead dog. The fact is,
if you look at several of these teams that he
could go to that he wants to go to, he
wouldn't necessarily be the lead dog, although he'd be really important,
much like he is in Cleveland. But I think there's
there's there's uh. Skip used to do this on first
take where they do the blame pie, right, like who
is the greatest to blame? Is it Lebron? Because he's

(01:26:11):
tough to play with. Yes, yes, it's not easy, not
just playing with him on the court, but off the court.
His agent represents half the team. He wants them to
spend more money. They spend a bunch of money, and
there's not much more money to spend on the court.
You have to play Lebron style. Ball goes through him.
He's more the point guard, and though Kyrie has been
able to flourish that his best season as a pro,

(01:26:31):
the ball still goes through Lebron and um and he's
going to dominate the balls such you also, you can't
play anybody wants the Cavaliers to play more of a
ball movement style, though Kyrie is not great at it
because he dominates the ball because he's such a great
one on one player. So two is Lebron James. So
there's some of it's Lebron, some of it's Kyrie. And

(01:26:54):
I think Kyrie, I've told people this, he might be
too smart for his own good, trying to kind of
thinking be one step ahead. Hey, look if I sell
my stock now and use that stock and use that
money to buy another stock that's on the way up,
like Minnesota, like the New York Knicks, or maybe like
the Spurs of stock that's been down but could be
back up if I'm added to it, that ultimately could
be higher than the stock that I'm at now. Well

(01:27:16):
what I could be at the end of the year.
Here's Richard Jefferson on his podcast as to what he
thinks is going wrong. I don't think that there's a
power struggle with Lebron and Kyrie and Cat. I think
Kyrie is a hyper intelligent kid, really really smart. Doesn't
get enough credit for how smart he is. And I
think seeing that the franchises in Flux, I think seeing

(01:27:39):
Griff leave and you know the amount of coaches. I
think Kyrie has had a much tougher time and hit
this stretch of the organization than anyone ever really Wantedfully,
he's a number one pick right after Lebron, then he
has three different coaches, then Lebron comes back. You know,
now there's trade rumors. Now it's Lebron's leaving. It's like,

(01:27:59):
at some points, I'm even anybody would want some sort
of stability, even if it's the unknown. And I'm not
saying that I don't know if he has to be traded.
I don't know this, but I will say that he's
had a tougher time if you look at from start
to where we are right now, of the ups and
downs of a franchise, more than most. Even though we've
been successful, and even though we've won a championship and
he's been an All Star, there's still been so much

(01:28:21):
of a wave and be like, you know, we're gonna
sit here for a whole year on whether or not
Lebron's coming back. That's got to be tough on anybody, everybody.
I think he has a lot of substance to it.
And while you can brush it aside and say that
Richard Jefferson doesn't know, or that Richard Jefferson is kind
of trying to contextualize it and soften it because he

(01:28:41):
likes Carrie Irving. I also think that he's much closer
to the situation than we are. But there's a lot
of what I said to Uh, there's a lot of
what I said to what Richard Jefferson said, which is
he is really bright. Maybe he is overthinking things. On
the other hand, maybe he doesn't want to be the

(01:29:05):
guy playing the fiddle wall while the Titanic sinks, only
to be struggling for a lifeboat at the end and
they're like, sorry, dude, no more seats. You gotta stay
in Cleveland, No thanks. He has been through a lot
of coaches. He has been through a lot of injuries.
People forget that. You go back a couple of years
ago before Lebron joined them, and even when when Kyrie

(01:29:26):
got hurt in their first NBA Finals run, Kyrie got hurt,
and there were people said, well, Kyrie is just injury prone.
He's always going to be injury prone. Kyrie being injury prone,
you gotta stay away from him. He's not some of
you can trust. I think there's a blame Pie here.
I think it cuts up Uh in some fairly even pieces.
And I do think Lebron is at least a part

(01:29:48):
of that blame, if not because of the guys that
he surrounds himself with who then helped negotiate other players
contract and he doesn't represent Kyrie also because he hasn't
managed those contracts so they have more cap flexibility, and
lebrons inability to show or lack of desire to show
what he's going to do next year causes Kyrie to
go like, why would I invest in? Like? This is?

(01:30:10):
You know? This is like why would you invest your
money in a stock if you don't know what's in
One year, the CEO's contract is up and everybody's saying
that CEO is gonna leave, and there doesn't appear to
be a plan B when that CEO leaves. Michael Lee
from the vertical join us upcoming next weill Kyrie start
next season in a Calves uniform. We discussed next. If

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Lee joins us. Uh, he's got an interesting article out

(01:30:56):
on the vertical website. You have to go to run
by Yahoo's sports. He joins us. Here on the Doug
Gotlic Show, Fox Sports Radio. Uh, the premise, Michael of
you know, I just I don't want to give it away,
but the premises basically, Hey, this Lebron Kyrie thing, this
is more arranged marriage than a passionate love story, right, Yeah,
I mean, this wasn't a situation where Currie was begging

(01:31:18):
Lebron to come play with him, and Lebron was, you know,
just ready to play with Kyrie. It was just Lebron
was a free agent in two thousands of fourteen. He
was looking for the ideal place to continue his career.
He chose Cleveland because they had Kyrie Irvan primarily, and
he felt like he'd be a great, you know, asset
to play with somebody who could fill up the box score, um,

(01:31:41):
and that they can win together for Kyrie Irvin. That's
not what he chose. You know. He's signed a five
year deal, expecting the Cavaliers to be built around him,
that would be a future of him and possibly Andrew
Wiggins going forward and leading, leading the next way for
the Cavaliers. Lebron came and for the next three years
it was all about the Broun And now with opportunity

(01:32:02):
to kind of flex his own power, this is a chance,
so he declared this time to go. Yeah. I think
it's interesting. I think there's a bunch of levels to it.
I've pointed out to people, Michael, that Kyrie had a
great season, right, averaging over twenty five points a game,
shooting higher percentage from three even than Steph Curry. Uh,
and yet he wasn't recognized as the top three for

(01:32:22):
you know, he wasn't in any of any of the
l NBA teams. Doesn't that kind of embody some sort
of frustrate, might be petty, but there's a legit frustration. Hey,
I have my best season so pro. I'm not skipping
games the way Lebrons skipping him, and I'm not the
first three team All All Pro and yet members of
the Golden State Warriors for ancillary pieces are absolutely And

(01:32:43):
I think that's that's one thing that frustrates him is
because he's always seen himself at He's seen himself as
a front line talent, you know, somebody who's deserving of
the attention to adulation because that's what he's known for
his entire life. You gotta realize, this is a guy
who was the number one player hig school. He was
a number one thick coming out of Duke and when
the in the Cavaliers basically let him have free reign

(01:33:06):
for the first three years and then from that point
on once Lebron arrived to MICKI, Draper Kevin Love, which
is a guy who's going to compliment Lebron, and every
subsequent move from replacing David Black with Gronlu to get
in JR. Smith and Moscow for anybody, any of the
any guy's free agents they signed, it was all meant
to appease Lebron. And if you're a guy like Kyrie

(01:33:27):
and you're looking around and you're saying, hold up, I'm
pretty good too. You know, Hey, I hit the biggest
shot in franchise history, you know. And I think for him,
he helped it end. He handled it as well as
he could. He never publicly complained because they couldn't. I mean,
he came with Lebron is an excellent, you know scenario.
You're gonna always go to the finals, gonna have a
chance to play for a ring every single year, and

(01:33:48):
they got one. But at some point if you look
around and say, people aren't really recognize what I'm doing,
because hey, I was dropping forty points in the finals two,
but nobody's recognizing me, and I think Keen and that shadow.
You know, it gets frustrated, especially for a young guy.
I don't think people really understand this guy just twenty
five years old, and he wants to have that opportunity

(01:34:09):
to be in that spotlight, and it's being in some ways,
it's being denied because you know, like I said in
the article, you know, if you think you're a leading man,
is going to be difficult when Lebron is a guy
who's writing and directing the movie, Michael Lee joining us
from the vertical It's Dog Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Trading.
All right, So where is where is the most most

(01:34:30):
reasonable place for him to go? Yeah? I don't even know,
because you know that I know there are places that
he obviously wants to go. You know, he wants to
little Minnesota or San Antonio, New York in Miami and
those makes sense you know, for him on the individual basis,
I don't know if those teams have what it takes
to actually acquire him, um, unless you know, they give

(01:34:51):
up something that they probably don't want to do for
the future going forward. UM. I think that if a
team like Phoenix is able to get into the mix
and maybe be you know, um they had the piece,
say of the assets, I think that that could allow
Cleveland to compete you know, immediately and also be prepared
for the future, especially there's the future that doesn't include

(01:35:13):
Lebron at the next season. UM. I think that a
teammate Phoenix is in the mix. Teammate Sacramento could also
be interested after just drafting deer in Fox. Um, you know,
I think that could be a team that can make
a move as well. Um. But you know, if I'm
as a basketball fan and this is just me, I
mean I don't see it happening, But as a basketball fan,

(01:35:34):
I love to see him in New York just because,
you know, for a guy who has never really you know,
hit in big moments, has never really shot away from
the from the big stage, I'd love to see him
take on the biggest stage, especially after declaring that he
no longer wants to play with the British Fever generation. Yeah.

(01:35:54):
I think it'd be like in New York obviously playing
high school basketball in Jersey. I mean I think, um,
if you could, if they could find a way to
make that move and hold onto prezingis, you'd have two players,
you'd have a new regime, you'd have new hope. I
think the whole thing, um was was was would would
be would be fascinating. Um what what about the idea

(01:36:15):
of I know, you point out that he's not the guy,
this thing that everybody's planning on Lebron leaving, and Lebron's
not gonna wave his no trade clause? Like, how is
this fixable at all for Lebron in the immediate year,
in the immediate future. Um, you know, it's it's difficult. Um,
you know, because I think Lebron, you know, was it

(01:36:36):
certain about where he wanted to go, but he also
was planning the seats for there to be another build
up for you know, some suspense as relates to his future,
and um, you know, but you know, the decision part
three was basically being set up what the Houston spayer go, um,
and I think free sure kind of like Kyrie, who's
basically had no control over the last three years. You

(01:36:58):
don't want to sit around and wait for everything the
crumble and then all of a sudden had to you know,
force your way out. He wanted to get out ahead
of things. He wanted to get out ahead. And that
means that if he's going to be the guy that
brings down, you know, this super team and in this
whole run for the Cavaliers, and so be it. Because
the objective was to win a championship, maybe it was

(01:37:20):
to win multiple ones. They got the championship, there's no
guarantee that they're gonna be able to beat the Warriors
if they meet again next year as they're currently assembled.
So why not go ahead and give mine? While I
can no question? How does the league look at him?
I'm not talking about writers, reporters, you know players in
this league as well. Uh, there are a lot of people.
Why would you Why would you split up tens? You

(01:37:42):
gotta winning hand. How do you think that the rest
of the league, the players will view this, Um, I
think it depends on the caliber player, you know. I
think if you're an elite player, a superstar player, UM,
then you understand his frustration for not being able to
get out of Lebron. Shadow. If you're a role player,
you're gonna look around and be like, oh, that's foolish.
I can't believe anybody who want to leave playing alongside Lebron. Um.

(01:38:05):
I think overall most people know how that playing with Lebron.
It takes a special type of player to play with
Lebron because you know you're gonna be surrounded by drama
and you're gonna win a lot of games, you know,
so you know, as great as he is, he's the
best player of this generation. Um, there comes a lot.
There's a lot that comes with that that you're about
to put up with. UM. One being if you fail

(01:38:28):
the chance, you're gonna be blamed. Now Lebron is not
gonna be blamed. The Cavaliers lost, and I was like, well,
the team around him is not good enough. No one said, well, yeah,
Lebron didn't do enough, because obviously he did so much
in the finals. They just they routine just didn't have enough.
But you're gonna be the one that takes the hit
hit the team fails um and that takes a special
type of guy who can deal with that and put

(01:38:49):
up with that because I think you know, now people
have seen people mentioned, you know, the Cavalier's record when
Lebron sit and as proof that maybe Kyrie can't leave
be a front guy. But you gotta understand, the team
was built to compliment Lebron, James. It wasn't built to
compliment Kyrie Irvian. So of course that the most important
pieces pulled out, you know, the Jena, the whole thing's

(01:39:09):
gonna collapse, and that's what's been happening. No, I was
thinking about Jenga. As soon as you said the most
important piece, I was thinking Jacka and then he used bank. Uh. Michael,
it's a great look. It's a great piece at at
what what's going on in Cleveland. And now we you know,
now we we wait. Thanks so much for joining us
on Fox Sports Radio. Hey any time, thanks for having
me on. That's Michael Lee from the Vertical. It's it's

(01:39:32):
just interesting the narrative of people who are outside the
NBA and they become fanboys Lebron. That's not to necessarily
demean Lebron, but I mean the perfect example is this
year's NBA Finals, Like Lebron wasn't the best player at
his position in the Finals. I want you to I
wanted to sink in with you, like did did Kevin

(01:39:53):
Love get out played whom he guarded most part? Yeah,
but Lebron was not better than Kevin Durant. It wasn't
uh not vehical percentage wise, not in the second and
second half like Kevin Durant was was better. The biggest
shot of the series was Game three in Cleveland. Lebron
disappeared at the end of that game, whereas Kevin Durant

(01:40:14):
came down to the three right in his eye like
this happened. Yet the narrative coming out of the series
is Calves have to get better. Lebron average triple double,
nothing more he can do, And like you're sitting there,
your Kyrier Ving, You're like, I had my best seasons
of pro I didn't get recognized as any of the
first three All Pro teams. I get. We get all

(01:40:36):
the blame when we lose. The team is built around Lebron.
Lebron is going to leave. We hired a no name
general manager who probably is going to have to give
into every whim of the owner. Why am I going
to resign here? Why do I want to stay here?
Why can't I ask to be traded? Check place? Check please, um,

(01:41:00):
which leads us to the possible movement of Carmelo Anthony.
Could he be moving to the Thunder. We'll get to
that next, but first, here's what's trending. Doug Galli Show,
Fox Sports Radio Music. Are you in a team Collins camp?
Are you in Team Gottlieb camp? With with the Kyrie thing,

(01:41:22):
I'm team I'd say more Team Gottlieb, but I could
totally understand why Kyrie would want out. You know it,
It sounds great that you get to go to the
finals every single year when you have the likes of
Lebron James on your team, But I'm sure it sort
of gets to the point where they won their championship.
And I think you make a really good point that

(01:41:44):
when the Cavaliers win, everyone wants to say, look, Lebron
James is the greatest ever play the game, But whenever
the Cavaliers lose and Lebron James averages a triple double,
it's can you believe what Lebron is able to do
with all the scrubs around him, no question. And then
there's and no, and people don't say Hires is scrub,
but he's not viewed in the same light as Steph Curry.
He's just not um. And then and then there's also

(01:42:06):
I think that's part of it. I think the part
where Lebron is gonna leave is part of it. I
think the lack of a capable general manager and the
meddling of an owner is part of it. I think
the part that it's Cleveland would have been his first
choice to begin with is part of it. I think
what's happened when Lebron has left previous places as part
of it as well. Like all of these things factor
into which is like check place, but you're not waiting

(01:42:30):
for dessert, desserts coming Like yeah, I'm I'm more of
an app guy and an entree guy than a dessert guy.
Let's get to the press, the press. Steven Sager joins us,
Steve what he got. Let's start with the Carmelo item.
Bill Simmons, now with the Ringer, reports today the thunder

(01:42:50):
are interested in trying to get Carmelo Anthony. As he
points out, okay See's Troy Weaver recruited Melo to the Cues.
Of course, the Thunder have traded for Paul George. Carmelo
is reportedly intent on playing for Houston. They already have
James Harden and Chris Paul. It would actually make more
sense to go to the Thunder. And I'll tell you why.
They have more pieces to trade in return. Um. So,

(01:43:13):
I mean, like, look, they still have and it's Cantor.
They still have Steven Adams, they still have and they
have a glutton of h Jeremy Grant, they still have
a glutton of power forwards and centers pieces that could
be sent back in return. And now their backcourt is
Alice Alex Sabrinus, I guess is gonna be the two guard,

(01:43:36):
Paul George at the three along with uh Russell Westbrooks.
So I mean, you could easily move PG to the two,
or you could have if you trade some of the
big guys, you could have you know, Carmella play the
three and the four. So whereas Houston just doesn't have
a lot of assets to move back. That's why they
need another team to engage. One college basketball item for you,

(01:43:59):
By the way, something I ran across in the last
week that buzzer Beater channel is no more since ESPN
has provided live look ins and analysis, but as part
of their continuing effort to cost cut and shift resources,
espn buzzer Beater channel is no more, according to the
page TV Predictions, which says the network also recently laid

(01:44:20):
off more than a hundred employees as it responds to
the shrinking pay TV subscriptions. Yes see, I think did
you here's a question you, Steve, you watch college jupe
on TV? I do? Did you know buzzer Beater existed?
I only knew it because it's a channel I am
not subscribed to according to the signal, A message I
get when I passed that channel. Well, the flow is

(01:44:41):
it is that college basketball um uh one the the
difference in it and like the red Zone red Zone
channel is the best channel on TV right and the
Red Zone channel, which, by the way, I don't know
if you're you guys are wear this. Eric Shanks who
runs Fox Sports, he brought the Red Zone channel to America.
It existed um in uh in Italy for soccer and

(01:45:04):
they had a room and he yeah, he walked into
a room and they were and somebody was showing him
like this is genius. He brought it to the NFL
and NFL and to the NFL network or to excuse me,
to direct TV in the red zone, and they established
a channel out of it, and that the NFL let
him do it for like almost nothing because they thought
nobody's gonna watch this thing, and it's the best, probably
the best channel on TV right, great sales as well.

(01:45:27):
It works because you have both networks CBS and Fox,
allowing their broadcast to be broadcast on the network. That's
part of the deal. The reason ESPNS didn't was a
multitude of reasons. But Fox has a bunch of college games,
CBS and CBS Sports Network have college games and um
and because of it, ESPN could only show their ESPN games.

(01:45:50):
As well as the fact that it's really hard to
go to the last five minutes of games that all
start at the same time. Uh and instead of going
to the last to the reds own of football games,
which is a little bit easier to track onto. Dallas
Cowboys News is Yesterday. Jerry Jones, owner of the team,
throw down the Gauntlets, saying the NFL has nothing on
Ezekiel Elliott in terms of domestic violence. Today, head coach

(01:46:13):
Jason Garrett through his support behind the running back again.
He said, we believe in Zeke. We believe strongly in
him as a person and a football player. We did
our due diligence on him. We know everything about Elliott's background,
going back to high school, going back to Pop Worner football,
through high school through college. We feel very strongly about
the kind of person he is. And then meeting the

(01:46:34):
media today separately, Garrett is clearly ticked off about Cowboys
player Lucky Whitehead's shoplifting arrest. Says, we're gathering information on it,
will respond accordingly. The coach was asked if firing the
players a possibility. Garrett said, oh, absolutely yeah. Lucky Whitehead
was not so lucky when he got caught shop of
the thing. I asked, just dopey stuff. Um, and I

(01:46:56):
think we're going up to ox Star to do a
live show at some point the very near future. Check
it out. I do think. Well, well, here's what you
have to know. Having the former alleged accuser significant other
of Zekiel Elliott, she had you know. She She actually
released a statement going back to the weekend to which
she said she was no longer going to remain silent

(01:47:18):
and being an outspoken advocate against domestic violence, which leads
you to believe, all right, there's some full story about
Zeke Elliott, to which the Cowboys said, there's nothing there. So, uh,
it's weird that a year later she would now find
her voice. But it's also weird that the Cowboys would
say there's nothing there instead of saying, hey, look, to
this point, we haven't found anything. Uh, somebody brings some up,

(01:47:40):
we'll research it, we'll make sure. We don't want to
put We don't want something like that to wear the
star on the side of the helmet. But we like
seek and we think he's a good player and a
good person. Was it was a weird stance that Jerry
Jones took. As for the Denver Broncos, the big news
today they've given General manager John Elway a new contract
the next five years. Initially they were saying it was one,

(01:48:01):
but a five year deal. Elway is called by the
Broncos in the press release a three time Super Bowl champion.
You see once he was appointed to his current role
as GM and Executive VP by owner Pat Bowling after
the season always since then has led the Broncos to
sixty seven wins regular season five, a f C West title,
and the Super Bowl fifty win. Well, the biggest question

(01:48:23):
is what are they going to do about about the
quarterback position? You know, do they have the answer at
quarterback with either of their two quarterbacks? And remember that
was a place that Colin Kaepernick once upon a time
they wanted Colin Kaepernick, albeit at a reduced straight last year.
Could that be a place that he'd end up calling home?
To be continued. But I do think that John Elway

(01:48:44):
and his staff, though they've had some missteps, He had
a couple of couple front office guys take leaves of
absence with with d u e s in fact is
talented talented defense. They did have a super Bowl hangover
and if they figure out the quarterback position, their talents
enough to go back to the Super Bowl. Time enough
for one more item. ABC News says Golden State forward
Draymond Green will be facing a lawsuit that alleges acts

(01:49:06):
of violence against the young man and woman. They will
bring the case, speaking out for the first time this
week about their claims of physical assault, bullying, and misleading
statements by Mr Green that they claim have severely impacted
their lives. This wouldn't be the first time Green has
been accused of assault. There was the Michigan State incident
a summer ago. Yeah. Where isn't that what this incident

(01:49:28):
is or is there a difference? Apparently this is involving
two people, so this would be different. And their attorney,
Lisa Bloom, will be holding a press conference. Yeah, I mean, like, look,
there's no criminal charges. I feel like it. It feels honestly,
it feels like a shakedown. That's that's what it sounds
like to me. But like Draymond's just got to be
starting stay away from this stuff otherwise they will, you know,
it ends up. I'm sure his loyal talm. It's smarter

(01:49:50):
to settle than it is to allow it to go
public or allow any sort of testimony to go public,
because that's when you know, discovery works both ways. But
we'll just we'll just see, I mean, the acts of violence,
you know, he is uh what is he accused of here? Um? Yeah,
which is weird because he was accused of hitting that

(01:50:12):
Michigan State football player the last summer, never charged, but
the football player was kicked off the team. He was
not I've talked to Michigan State and they they were like, again,
it's one of those things, like the Ezuki Eellett. Sometimes
guys haven't coming to him. They really do. One other
note in the NBA before we go, the Cabs have
announced they will have a press conference Wednesday afternoon with
owner Dan Gilbert and the new general manager, Kobe Altman.

(01:50:33):
Get out there and pressed that was the press. What
could possibly go wrong there? Because Dan Gilbert has been
so good with the media, I would guess it will
be denied, denied, deny in terms of trading Kyrie Irving.
But we will watch, we will, we will stay tuned.
The most impressive part about Jordan's speaks, uh Open Championship win.

(01:50:54):
I'll share it with you next Doug ott Leaves show,
Fox Sports Radio. M m hm m hm. Uh. So
much to get to today, man, A ton of things
to get to. Um. Yeah, guys, I don't actually have that,

(01:51:17):
uh the true car read that I'm supposed to do.
I mistakenly deleted that from my email. I just had
to tell you. I know I need to get it in. Um.
So like, look, I watched the Open Championship. I watched
the Open Championship yesterday, and I thought that the two

(01:51:38):
things that jumped out at me about Jordan's speed winning
the thing when not just He's always been seen as
an elite putter, you know, fairways and greens, and from
from the time he arrived in the professional golf world,
people believed that he would be a guy who could
consistently win the US Open. Uh, he would do well

(01:51:58):
at the British And the question would be at times,
you know, would his length be an issue in comparison
to some other guys, especially like the p G A
which is upcoming super super long on course which you
can in fact spray it. He's not a bomber. But
the um what what might have been most impressive is

(01:52:19):
first he doesn't hit the fairway on one, and then
he's able to gather himself and to thirteen is a mess, right,
Like should he have been penalized? Like probably? Like here's
the problem with penalizing him on three, in which they
were already watching him for slow play, Like imagine, imagine
if you will, they penalize him and now he now

(01:52:41):
he goes down this vortex where he cannot pull himself
out of. Do we really want to a penalized golfer
because of slow play, Like I don't think so, and
I know Matt Kutcher is not wired like other dudes,
so he wasn't all up in a huff about it.
But the fact is, like this is one of those
deals to where everybody says, we want I want the penalty.
There should have been a penalty. Imagine if they had

(01:53:02):
penalized him, you would have been equally parts piste. When
you're ready to experience a better way to sell or
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slash trade today. There you go. Um, but to bounce
back on thirteen, like, I don't know how much you
guys play golf, but it was very interesting. Shane Bacon

(01:53:24):
joined us earlier. If you missed the interview, like everything
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Shane Bacon, it's funny music. Did you hear that? The
sport he analogized at most too, and how it how

(01:53:46):
it was the exactly two sports that I said the
exact same thing about. Okay, it was exactly like tennis, right, yeah,
But it's more the idea that that tennis and golf,
like when you start to fail like tennis, guys, I
don't know if you ever played tennis, when you start
to hit the spray the ball over the place and
you lose, like you'll lose your backhand mid set, like

(01:54:08):
the only thing you can do is yell at your
racket and start adjusting your strings, because really, the only
person to blame is yourself, right, it just is. That's
why umpires take so much abuse in tennis, is because
players really want to blame themselves, but they can't physically
take the racket and hit themselves on the head and
straighten things out. That doesn't work in golf. All you're
left to do once you hit a ball and you
spray it and you hit into a crowd, or you

(01:54:30):
miss the fairway or you can't find it and you're
in some practice range, all you're left to do is
mutter to yourself and what and then you gotta think
about all right, I gotta get together. I gotta get together.
But you know you have all these thoughts in your
back swing that you're trying to read yourself of. It's
impressive to the lead and to win and to close out,
and I love to use the coffee is for closers.

(01:54:51):
And right now Jordan's speed can have a tall cup
of java because he was able to close out his
third ever major championship and he has a chance her
career Slam if he can win the PGS. Third team
was a mess. And it's one of those holes to which,
like most of us in golfing, like just put me
down for a snowman, that's an eight and let's move on.

(01:55:12):
You you can't do that, and you've got to grind
your way to keep that score as low as possible
and then get to the next t, set yourself up
and try and flush that like your Your mind is
not like your computer. I wish it was to where
you can and some people's mind where you can drag
things down to the trash, put in the trash and
then go to the trash and empty it. Like that's

(01:55:33):
not how the mind is. Everybody said, well, next play,
next shot, next hole. Whatever, It's not that easy, so
to me speak, winning and in the style in which
he won, to where he went from a hole that
would cause some of the strongest men to come come
down to their knees and then and then to bounce

(01:55:57):
back the way they did the way the way he did.
It was amazing. It was amazing. And yes, I said,
golf more game of skill than sport um And I
mean that doesn't mean it wasn't that What doesn't mean
it wasn't equally difficult what he was able to do.
It's such a mental game. The ability to replicate the swing,

(01:56:18):
the ability to rid yourself of negative thoughts in your swing,
and what he's able to do with a putter. It's
just it's crazy how good he is with that with
the putter. Clayton Kershaw is out four to six weeks
with a bad back. In and of itself. It could
help the Dodgers, so he has a fresh arm much
like he did last year. The problem is he heard
his back much like he did last year, all that

(01:56:39):
torque put on his spine. You start to wonder as
dominant as he has the Dodger in nineteen and two
when he starts this year, like forget about what his
record is. The Dodgers have one nineteen of twenty one
games in which he has picked the ball as the
start of this year, and they were the hottest team
in baseball, went two and two over the weekend. Kenley
Jansen blew a save. But I do actually like the

(01:57:00):
idea that I have a fresh arm. I don't like
the idea that he hurt his back for a second
consecutive year. Right was it? One time is something and
two times as a trend? Alright, one times an outlier,
second times a trend kind of becoming a trend. And
then we'll continue to talk about Kyrie Irving, who I
think took very little glory when they won the championship,

(01:57:21):
despite the fact that he carried the calves offensively hit
the essentially the game winning shot against the Warriors the
year before. But he also got very little glory when
he had a great season this year. Wasn't a first, second,
or third team All NBA player, and most people had
conceded that Lebron is going to leave at the end
of next year, and if so, why would Kyrie stay

(01:57:42):
around to leave something for a chance. I think it's
maybe getting one step ahead selling your stock before you
know there's ultimately a collapse and putting it somewhere else.
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