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This is the best of the Doug gott Leap Show
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Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, getting ready to maybe take
your phone calls. Definitely have a great conversation on what
should have been a lazy sports weekend. We had some
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soccer baseball kershaw hurt little that we know, we'd have
some outstanding golf as Jordan's spief would UH would win
yet another major re reigniting the conversation about where golf
is and where he can take it. But maybe more importantly,
the weekend began with an absolute bombshell that was dropped
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on Friday afternoon. You guys familiar with the UH Friday
news dump. Friday news dump is something that that usually
is reserved for politics, right. It's an old political UH tactic.
It's from before news cycle but still works to this day,
to which you wait for a three day holiday weekend
and on Friday, after four o'clock, when everybody's gone home
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and everybody's gone out to the lake, or everybody's going
to the beach, or people have gone to the mountains
wherever they've scattered away. That's when before end of business
before closing of business, c Ob, you drop a bombshell.
That's what happened from Brian wind Horse who dropped the
bombshell which everybody has been reacting to since, will continue
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to react to. It, is that Kyrie Irving over a
week ago went into the Calves and said, hey, you
know what, I don't want to be a fiddle player.
As the Titanic sinks, I'd like to be on one
of those boats. Please, can you please arrange for me
to make sure that I am on a lifeboat since
this ship be sinking. That happened Friday afternoon. Now, I
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don't think it was a news dump. I think it
as soon as wind Horse got the information, got the
confirmation that he put it out there, which gave him
great affirmation. But nonetheless, it happened on Friday. We still
react to it today and everywhere I go, everyone I meet,
they all want to know the same thing. What do
you think? I said, I'll let you know Monday in
the show. Here's what I think I think. Can you
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blame him? Right? Can you blame him? I mean? Look,
how much credit is Kyrie Irving ever actually gotten? I
didn't say how much he deserves, but how much has
he gotten last year? When you think of Game seven,
you might think of his heroic game winning bucket. Do
you think of his incredible productivity the over forty point
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games in order to get them back to games savy seven?
Do you think of him hitting the game winning shot?
Or do you think of Lebron and all Lebron did
and Lebron's block. That might sound petty, but there's some
reality to it. If you look at Kyrie this year,
did Kyrie have a good, above average or great year?
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You have eage more point, shout a better percentage He
averaged essentially what f Curry average, and shout a better
percentage from the field and from three, better percentage from
three than Steph Curry, averaging about twenty five and a
half twenty six points per game. Did you know that
he was in the first, second or third team on
NBA selection? How much credit to carry Irving actually gets?
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So in terms of credit, he hadn't gotten a ton.
Remember Lebron James in the in the finals? Well, you
ever triple double gonna be Lebron? That means it's everybody else.
And then there's a reality of they weren't able to
hire a general manager. They hired a young general manager
who been there the whole time, but obviously wasn't their plan.
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They're in cap hell. They don't seem to be able
to improve themselves. And oh yeah, by the way, all
signs point to Lebron looking at leaving at the end
of this year. If you're Kyrie Irving, w why would
you stay? Cleveland's not where you're from, it's not your home.
It'll be profitably more difficult to leave going forward to
next year when I get out one step ahead of it?
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Why wait? And the narrative has come out and some
of this is from the report that maybe Kyrie wants
to be the main guy. But if he wants to
be the main guy, why would the San Antonio Spurs
be one of his primary destinations. If he wants to
be the main guy and he wants to win, why
would New York Knicks be one of them? And some
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of this is just the auization of basketball right in basketball, yes,
what au teams in between tournaments. That's what you do,
That's what you do. It's a different mentality, like there's
three big tournament weekends. I know we have an a
U team played the first two weeks in Anaheim, this
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coming weekends in Las Vegas, and what do they do
weekend number three? We start to turn over our roster.
We're sick of them, they're sick of us. They move on.
And because that's happened for the last fifteen or twenty years,
we shouldn't be surprised that players are like, Hey, I'm
gonna go play for another team, midstream, mid contract because
it means nothing to them. But I've stated this before
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and I'll state this again, and maybe it's until everybody
understands that I know exactly what I'm talking about. It's
fair to say the Lebron James is in the conversation
of one of the greats of all time, and over
the last twenty years, he's arguably the greatest player we've
seen play in the NBA. Arguably, of course, that coincides
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with the tail end of Michael Jordan's But Michael Jordan,
for me, is the best basketball player I've ever seen.
But Lebron James is not without flaw, and one of
the flaws is how we cover him. We've had people
like Skip Bayliss be a little bit too harsh in
calling him a choker, which he was until he wasn't.
We've had others be too soft, like Colin Cowherd who
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thinks Lebron is the grayst he's ever seen, and everybody
else that's it not wrong. And then there's the realist
in me that says that Lebron's complex, Lebron's not easy.
Lebron gets it his way. When Lebron wins, it's Lebron's fault.
When Lebron loses, it's not. Lebron can try and manipulate
general managers to signing his guys who are represented by
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his agent that's his best friend, even though he doesn't
want them to call the posse. His posse has negotiated
contracts that are above the normal or average value on
the open market of his teammates, which is great. The
problem becomes it puts you in cap hell and they're
not able to add to that list. And Lebron has
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never been accountable for the decisions that he rich Paul
and the front office has made in in trying to
be in his best interest. The point is this, Leron
can be great. Lebron could be a pain in the ass.
Lebron could be the best player we've seen since Michael
Jordan's and Lebron can be hard to play with. It
can be rewarding in terms of competing for a championship,
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but not personally rewarding in all that much fun to
go to work. Lebron's complex. It's not easy, and playing
with Lebron is complex and not easy. And maybe at
some point Kyrie Irving's like, I'm good, I'm ready to
move on and oh yeah. By the way, Kyrie was
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in Asia last week when this dropped. Where do we
think that story came from. Do you think he was
texting Brian Windhorst and giving him the story or do
you think that's a stronger possibility that that news leaked
from Cleveland, most notably from that of Lebron James and
Lebron James's camp. And while that may hurt Kyrie's value
out on the open market, the fact is it makes
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Lebron look better than it does Kyrie. And that's what
Lebron has been about, how he looks, how his image
is above the reality of it. Lebron continues to say
that he doesn't he's not the general manager, but he's
controlled and manipulated. Most of that roster begin with there's
a desire her to change and manipulate and evolve that roster,
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while there's no desire to claim responsibility when things don't
go well. This is Lebron James. This is why when
he left, pat Riley did not have many great things
to say about him. This is why Lebron James is
a complex superstar. And this is why frankly, it feels
like Kyrie Irvan just wants to get out of it,
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and he still wants to win. He still wants to compete,
but he's okay if he doesn't win a championship because
he's already won one and he understands that that being
with Lebron sometimes isn't all that much fun. Here's the
greatest analogy I can give. Right, everybody once says they
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want to marry a ten. Right, you want to marry
a ten, But do you like one of the most
important things when you marry a woman is that you
actually like her. They're like, no, Doug, you gotta love her.
I don't dispute that. But men and women we fall
in love, we fall into a fatuation, and we can
love somebody physically for a long time, maybe forever. But
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do you actually like them? Do you want to hang
out with them? Do you want to be around them
when you're not full monty? That to me is what
separates relationships. Do I actually like this? But you know
I like this person that kind of smart, They're kind
of funny, they're kind of sarcastic, the kind of give
it give it back to me when I give it
to them, Like I actually liked them? I thought you
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said you love them. I do, but I also like
them as well. When searching for somebody you're going to marry,
don't worry about whether or not they're ten or whether
there's seven two fives make it ten? Instead, do I
actually like them? Don't get me wrong, The other parts
of physical traits are really are important? Are they're They're important,
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But so too are the emotional traits. And nothing worse
than a woman who who has been told her whole
life she's beautiful, and she knows she's beautiful. So guys
are the same way, like a really good looking guys.
I'm sure you asked women they're like too pretty? What
does two pretty mean? Does that actually mean they're too
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good looking? No, it means that whether it's too much
vanity or whether it's just not a lot of person there.
They've been able to skate by because they're so damn
good looking. You want somebody who's really good looking but
maybe doesn't know they're really good looking, but more than anything,
someone that you can love, but someone you actually like.
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And I'm sure Kybrie Irving has loved many parts of
what Lebron James has brought to the table. But do
you like it? These guys are always around, his agent
represents half the team, not you. When things go wrong,
it's your fault. When things go right, it's his fault. Right.
I love it, but I don't like it, and that's
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not a marriage that spelled to last. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. I watched the Open
Championship yesterday and I thought that the two things that
jumped out at me about Jordan's speed winning the thing
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when not just He's always been seen as an elite
putter you fairways and greens, and from from the time
he arrived in the professional golf world, people believed that
he would be a guy who could consistently win the
US Open. Uh, he would do well at the British.
And the question would be at times, you know, would
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his length be an issue in comparison to some other guys,
especially like the p G A which is upcoming super
super long on course, which you can in fact spray it.
He's not a bomber. But the um what what might
have been most impressive is first he doesn't hit the
fairway on one, and then he's able to gather himself
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and to thirteen is a mess, right, Like should he
have been penalized? Like probably? Like here's the problem with
penalizing him on three in which they were already watching
him for slow play, Like imagine, imagine if you will,
they penalize him and now he now he goes down
this vortex where he cannot pull himself out of. Do
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we really want to a penalized golfer because of slow play? Like?
I don't think so. And I know Matt Kutcher is
not wired like other dudes, so he wasn't all up
in a huff about it. But the fact is, like
this is one of those deals to where everybody says
we want I wanted a penalty. There should have been
a penalty. Imagine if they had penalized him, you would
have been equally parts piste. But to bounce back on thirteen, Like,
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I don't know how much you guys play golf. In golf,
all you're left to do once you hit a ball
and you spray it and you hit into a crowd,
or you miss the fairway or you can't find it
and you're in some practice of strange, all you're left
to do is mutter to yourself and what and then
you gotta think about all right, I gotta get together.
I gotta get together. But you know you have all
these thoughts in your back swing that you're trying to
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ring yourself of. It's impressive to lead and to win
and to close out. And I love to use the
coffee as for closers. And right now Jordan's speed can
have a tall cup of java because he was able
to close out his third ever major championship and he
has a chance for a career Slam if he can
win the PGS. Third team was a mess, and it's
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one of those holes to which like most of us
in golf and like just put me down for a snowman,
that's an eight, and let's move on. You you can't
do that, and you've got to grind your way to
keep that score as low as possible and then get
to the next t set yourself up and try and
flush that like your Your mind is not like your computer.
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I wish it was to where you can and some
people's mind when you can drag things down to the trash,
put in the trash and then go to the trash
and empty it like that not how the mind is.
Everybody said, well, next play, next shot, next hole, whatever.
It's not that easy, so to me speak, winning and
in the style in which he won, to where he
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went from a hole that would cause some of the
strongest men to come come down to their knees and
then and then to bounce back the way they did
the way the way he did. It was amazing. It
was amazing. And yes, I said, golf more game of
skill than sport um And I mean that doesn't mean
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it wasn't that. What doesn't mean it wasn't equally difficult
what he was able to do. It's such a mental game.
The ability to replicate the swing, the ability to rid
yourself of negative thoughts in your swing and what he's
able to do with the putter. It's just it's crazy
how good he is with that with the putter. I
don't deemed golf to be a sport. I think it's
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a game of skill. Now people will say, well, that's
ticking shots at golf. Like, okay, games of skill. You
still have to have skill and nerve and toughness and
some of the things that takes to be great at support.
The difference is there's an endurance aspect to it. There's
an athleticism aspect to it, which you don't necessarily have
in order to achieve greatness in the sport of golf.
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But what lends me to think it's more of a
sport than just a game of skill is what we
saw on thirteen. It's the human part of the Everything
is seemingly going against you. People believe that you should
be penalized. Your caddies trying to save you, You're trying
to save yourself. You're working, you know, inside your head
even harder than you're working with your body, and you've
gotta figure it out. You've gotta get it together. I
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mean the Warriors of sixteen, the Falcons, of the Super Bowl.
They were all hoping for that type of choke to
take them off of the mantle as the right Now
it's the Atlanta Falcon three. They're the choking team of
record that everybody's going to point to. But for about
a half hour there they were off the hook because
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George Speed was going to join them coming off of
Augusta and onto this tournament. And yet somehow he figured
it out. So I I thought the wheels were coming off.
But again this is where, uh, he's an incredible putter.
I mean, he is just a remarkable putter. And while
while golf guy may take you you couldn't do it,
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You're right, I can do it. I also can't. I'm
not good at darts. I'm not good at archery. Those
are things that take a steady end to take a
ton of skill. The difference, obviously, is you're playing against
the course, not just against you know, against the wind,
and it's far more skillful it is to play darts.
I get that. But that was magnificent. I think more
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of him because he recovered from what appeared to be
an epic collapse that I would have had he ran
away from it, and that weird, that weird, how the
how the h in mind works. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Let's welcomen Shane Bacon
from Fox Sports. He covers the World of Golf. Um,
when you woke up yesterday? When you awoke yesterday, Shane,
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I did you assume that Jordan's speech would would win
a start major? You know? I thought he would win? Yes?
Did I? Did I assume it was a done deal? No?
I mean I think we uh, you know, there there's
this tainted part of us that that Tiger did that
we're still trying to get over that. You know, we
just believe that a good player, a great player, just
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goes and cruises through wins majors, and even if it's
if you have a three shot leave, a lot of
the time that doesn't happen. Really more often than not,
it doesn't happen. I mean, especially when you're looking basically
over the last five or six seven years of players
that weren't able to close it out on Sunday. So
I thought there was a good chance that he would win,
considering he is Jordan's speech and obviously mentally superior than
threw a lot of the players out there, but I
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didn't think it was gonna be a completely done deal.
And then and that drive on the first film, that
Hey last, and he came up and he was really
frustrated with Michael. I was interested to see what the
next few you know, minutes, the next few hours when
play out, because you know he can get a little
down himself sometimes and which which makes what happened after
thirteen maybe more impressive, right, I mean I was just
I was talking about this, like, you're kind of naked
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in front of the world when you're collapsing in front
of us in a major tournament, and that one, that
one felt like he was spiraling out of control and
to pull himself out of that vortex is is pretty
special stuff. Yeah, you know, it kind of reminded me
a little bit of chilling, you know, a couple of
weeks ago in the finals de Wimbledon. I mean, you know,
you're golf and tennis is the most naked you're going
to be as an athlete. I mean you're out there
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by yourself basically. I mean in golf, you get a caddy,
but he was melting down, and he was walking around
trying to find a place to to to drop a
ball to hopefully make a bogey and not let this
thing completely get away from him. And you know, I
was talking to a friend of mine this morning. You
know that shot on fourteen, If that thing goes in
after the great bogey stage he makes there, you're probably
talking about the best golf shot in the history of
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the you know, for making a hole in one, for
good mistakes of the bounce back. But it was just
incredible to see him do this. I mean, I've talked
a lot about Jordan's speech and how we get so
obsessed with these guys that hit at three fifty and
can overpower golf courses. But golf, you know, seventy seventy yards,
it doesn't matter. I mean, if you're if you're strong willed,
and you're mentally tough than everybody else, you're going to
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be better. And that's what we see with Jordan. He's
a guy that whatever it is between the years that
these great athletes have, Jordan's speech has it. Shane Bacon
joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show, All right, what
about everybody else? Like we saw this from speech going
back two years ago, where where he nearly could have
won every major. It's not a stunner that he did
so with steady hand and putting. We feel like he's back.
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What about the rest of the young guys, the rories
of the world. Uh that that we expected to be
with him? Uh? Where where are we in terms of
getting that good group of youngsters too? Maybe individually we
won't see a tiger, but collectively we could see that.
The kind of accumulation of wins. Yeah, I think it's
on those guys. I mean, you see Rory who doesn't
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hasn't really had his a game and a major i'd
say in probably two and alst three years, still able
to finish in the top five. I think it's just
about eliminating mistakes for a lot of the guys like
him and Matt Suyama, who I think Matt Yama doesn't
get enough credit for his consistent play out there. I
think there's a level of that where you're seeing guys
that just they can't put seventy two holds together and
that's why they're not winning these majors. And I think
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that's it. It's just eliminated mistakes. I mean, Rory mclroy
had a really good chance yesterday to put some serious
pressure on those guys. If he doesn't hit that ball,
you know, thirty yards left on fifteen the part five
and have to go back to the tea and hit
a provisional. I mean that was a chance for him.
With everything happened with Jordan's speed the thirteen, you know,
if Rory makes berdie there and Birdie's sixteen and then
make sego on seventeen like he did, you know that
there was a chance for us to get that Rory
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Jordan's speed battle that we'd hoped for. So really, it's
just that that's what it is. It's it's those guys
having to eliminate the big mistakes that we keep seeing.
Rory really the king of that. You know, he's able
to come back if he's so talented. He makes a
lot of Birdie's but you just can't make oh he's
in double on par fives when you're playing for a
championship like this, especially when the guy behind you is
going through something mentally, if there was a chance if
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Rory put a number up that, you know, that'd be
something to piece would have noticed. I would agree with you.
Listen to Shane's podcast, The Clubhouse Podcast for great golf
analysis some of the biggest guests in the world of golf,
Shane Bacon and Fox Sports joining us on the Doug
gott Lab Show. Let's go back to speech, Um, what
went so wrong after the success in in fifteen? Like
what what was he able to figure out that he
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wasn't able to figure out last year. I think that
he hasn't really ever gone away. You know a lot
of people, you know, we count these bead these great
players by majors, and I think right now it's almost
a little unfair to do that just because their talent
pool was so deep. I mean, you had eight winners
in a row and majors that they were first time
major champions. You know, that's what golf has become. I mean,
Peace was still consistently winning PGA Tour tournaments. We just
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weren't seeing him win the majors, and I think that's
what people really look at. But he hadn't really gone away.
I just think he was looking for a week to
put it all together, and that's what we saw. You know.
The funny thing about Royal Birkdale is if you look
over the cast of characters that have one British open there,
it is always these guys that are mentally tough. And
I thought before the week started, I said, you know,
speak you don't have to overpower this place. You can
just play smart. And it felt a little bit like
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high Grant hoy Lake. You know how he went and
hit one driver in seventy two holds and was able
to win. I just felt like it was the place
that he'd have a lot of success that and he
had to never really gone away. I just think we
were waiting for this and it was good to see
him do it this year and not go, you know,
another full season without a major, because you know now
he's on pace. I mean, this isn't crazy to think
he could win eight, nine, ten majors. I mean he's
so young, he's got so much talented. Plus I think
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he's got that drive that will see some of the
young players consider how much money they make, you know,
they might kind of fade away in their mid thirties
because they don't really need to really play that well anymore. Um,
I mean can kind of offer something else up Shane.
I actually think It's a little bit like why Paul
Pierce's game was able to last so long. Like Paul
Pierce never had a great first step, and yet he
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could still find a way to get a first step
on people. Jordan's speeds has never won because of his
length and if eventually the length goes away. Now, how
much game do you have? How good are you? You know,
can you get can you hit the fairway fairways and greens?
And how good are you with a putter? Like And
I know sometimes guys lose their lose their putting. We've
seen it, obviously from Tiger, but but his game seems
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like it has it has a longer shelf life because
it's not built purely on power. Is that fair? Yeah,
it's it's not all about speed. I mean, I don't
want to go back to Wimbledon again, but it does
feel a little Betterer like, you know, it's just precise
and smart and it seems like when he's out there,
he's got a higher right you than the guy's playing. Again,
I feel like that's what you're seeing with Jordan's speed.
And I think the Paul Pierce example is is a
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good one. I mean, that guy played, you know, for
decades in the NBA, and he had this game that,
for whatever reason, worked well against anyone, and I think
people hated playing against him and just because they knew
he could. He could sneak his way around almost outsmart
his opponent. And that's for just seeing. I do think
this though, speech doesn't get enough credit for how good
of a ball striker is. I think the fact that
he was such a good putter back in two thousand,
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fifth team when he win those majors, people really like
to look back at that. But the guy hits the
ball really really well too. I mean, let's not think
he's not a top five, top ten ball striker. Shane
Bacon joining us in the Doug alluxho, all right, what's
what waits ahad of us for the p G A Well,
I mean if Rory doesn't win this one, I would
start to sound the alarm at least a little bit.
I mean, this is the place that that Rory has
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dominated his entire career. It's where he got his first
PG Tour win and he shot sixty one in the
final round. It's it's a big ballpark, and I mean
it's it's gonna play long, especially if it's still gonna
be wet over there in North Carolina. I just feel
like this has gotta be Rory's chance, and I'd love
to see him do it, because, like you said, we
go into the offseason then talking Rory versus Jordan's. So
I'm hoping that he does get to quill Hollow and
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and has a little bit of the competence he at
least can take from the top five finish at the Open.
But you know, I mean, how do you not like
seeing Speaks go there and potentially win, you know, the
career Grand Slam and be the first one to ever
do it in a p J Championship and be fantastic.
Shane Bacon a Fox Sports covering the world of golf.
Download his podcast, The Clubhouse Podcast, which has some great
golf analysis as well as some of the biggest guests
in the world of golf. It was a good The
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opening was a good one. Thanks so much for joining
us and recap and it was with Shane. Yeah, thanks pretty.
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Richard German and Russell Wilson have gotten into it over time.
There was the story detail tension between Sherman and Wilson
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and the friction within the locker room. Sherman told Sports Center,
that's true. I've said worse to Doug Baldwin. I've said
worst to Germaine curse. Iron sharpens iron as one man
sharpens another. I'm sorry, that's our competition. That's the way
we sharpened iron. It's uh, it's it's petty. It's pretty
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and cordial. Oh excuse me, it isn't pretty in cold
and cordial that makes more sense. I'm sure that if
you went to see bad teams, they'd probably get along great.
I'm sure they're slapping high fives. But then again, you
go for and twelve. Sherman disputed this story, claimed there's
tension within the locker room, saying we're pros. We hang
out from time to tell him we get along. Everybody
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gets along. Sherman told ESPN dot Com. But my relationship
with Russell is the same as his with Doug Baldwin,
Or is it the same as his with Bobby Wagner. No,
but is his relationship the same with me as it
is um Tyler Lockett or Justin britt It's just different dynamics.
But his teammates were phenomenal. Every single person on every
single team doesn't hang out. I don't see anybody getting
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mad that Tom Brady isn't hanging out with Malcolm Butler
Um Like, hey, Tom, you and Malcolm hang out. You
guys don't what's going on there? You know what I mean?
What's uh? What are we talking about? They're trying to
create a story that isn't there. I think this is
one of those deals to where Richard Sherman still doesn't
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understand how he's perceived. And he also look, you can
talk trash to a teammate, you can get in a
teammates as I've never had any problem with that. That
just happened, you know, I haven't had any problem with
There are guys in the media to which you cannot
You cannot play their sound on radio and then make
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fun of their opinion. You can like that. Like my
way of looking at it is like you can make
fun of my opinion, you can think my opinion is
it's still my opinion and it comes from someplace like
I don't just make things up. I have a logic
and a sense and sensibility, and I talked to people
within sports leagues, and I'm watching the sports to be like,
I know kind of my opinion, like I'm okay with
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you want to pull sound and make make fun of me, Fine,
I don't care. There are the people that that do.
As long as you don't make fun of me. The
person say I'm an idiot, you can say that's an
idiotic take. Fine, Uh, here's maybe a better example of it. Music.
Did you hang around Friday for speak for yourself? You
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took off, didn't you? After the show? We came you
talked to in college? You did in your dressing room
for a minute, and then I took off. I'm not
I'm not a big TV big wig like you. What
wasn't the TV big way a big way? I was?
I was filling in for, filling in for I was
guesting on the show anyway. So during the first segment,
Jason wentlock is the host to speak for yourself? He
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wanted to come back around to him before he teed
off like the second part, and that's when the graphics
could have worked. Whatever, And in the process of the discussion,
I organically took us to the second point so he stops.
Scott got stop, stop, that's not what we're doing. And
he was right. He had told us beforehand that he
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wanted to take us to the second topic. I had forgotten,
right and forgotten, but I just kind of just felt
like an organic transition to which I took the bait
and I went with it instead. He wanted to tee
it up because it worked better for the graphics and
it made more sense, so retaped. It was fine, It
was probably it was better the second time. That was
the first time. I'm driving home and I get a
call from one of the producers, Amen, are you okay
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with how things went? I was like, yeah, what what
do you mean? Well, you know we cut that first segment.
It's like, yeah, we redid it. Well, we didn't want
your feelings here. I was like, my feelings weren't hurt, Like, uh,
we were supposed to do it one way. We didn't
do it that way. We cut, we stopped, we redid it.
It was better. What's the point. We just want to
make sure. You didn't have to make sure. So I
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do think there's a certain like athletes have been coached
their whole lives, They've been corrected their whole lives. They've
been taunted their whole lives, and a little ball busting,
a little trash talking. I've never heard anybody. The point
that Sherman seems to be missing is the way he
views it is. Hey, this is however, this is how
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we do it, iron Sharpen's iron. This is how we roll.
We talked trash to them, They talked trast to us.
It isn't pretty, it isn't cordial. The story wouldn't have
gotten a yesp in the magazine and wouldn't have been
portrayed in the type of negative life it was it
was portrayed in unless somebody had a problem with it, right,
unless somebody had a problem with it, Like, just because
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you can take it doesn't mean that Russell Wilson likes
the way you're giving it or can take it himself.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Jon
Bones Jones going against Daniel Cormier. We haven't seen Bones
Jones in an octagon uh in over a year. In
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over a year, all right, let's find out if he's
ready as he's ready to join us bones, how are you? Hey,
I'm doing great. How are you good for any of
us who are concerned? Hey, he's going to be rusty.
How can you alleviate those concerns? Uh? Well, um by
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just going out there? And I don't want to do
I mean, you know, I have an open, sent proof fight,
and uh and it was a fight that I wasn't
to im Swiss. I had a lot of questions and
a lot of doubt, but you know, I feel like
that fact was necessary because now I know kind of
how to deal with that, and I feel like I've
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mentally addressed it. And laudarian spread my wings and fly.
All right? So what what did you address? What specifically
did you say? Look, I went, I watched the tape
against St Pro, and I had to fix it. It
wasn't really matter me watching tape to address it. I
just remember the way I felt, and I remember why
I felt that way, and and I'm gonna make a
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concerious effort just to make sure that that isn't happening again.
I mean, ultimately, even that fight was it was a
one sided unanimationis in victory. So I mean, so, you know,
I just feel good going as this fight, you know,
really good. Has he gotten better Davin for me? No,
I don't think he has. I think it's an experience
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has gone up slas how we met. But I don't
think he has a technique wise, I don't think he's
really shown me any uh, major improvements or changes in
this game from my phone or years, I don't know.
Jon Bones Jones joining us on the Doug GALTI show, guys,
can we try and adjust his static? I don't know,
Like in my headset, it sounds okay, So I guess
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it's coming from coming from the phone line. They're saying
it sounds good, So it might just be in your year.
Doesn't feel like it's coming out over the air. You've
beaten six, you've beaten six Hall of famers, and you
want to make the case to be the greatest fighter
in the history of the Octagon. But it's some of that.
It's it's frankly the stuff outside the octagon, which is
the only thing that people can point to to keep
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you away from that. So how important is this showing uh?
In trying to continue to build and maybe even rebuild
that reputation. Well, well, I think when it comes to
my dominance as much a lot of it, I don't
think the stuff outside of the octagon. I mean I
don't think it really matters. I mean you look at
guys like, uh, let's say, like a Mike Tyson. Not
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that I want to be in the same ballpark, you know,
as far as you know outside of the the ring reputation,
but I mean you can never dispute or deny my
classom being the baddest dude of his of his error,
and so I do feel like I'm the baddest dude
to my error. I mean them the records speak for itself. Yeah,
it's the but it's it's the it's it's the only
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point you can point to as the layoffs, right, which
has also hurts you in in the pocket in terms
of financially. I mean that's more than anything like I
would agree. When you're when you're right, when you're in
the octagon, there's no question about your legitimacy. It's been
it's been those things. Um, all right, So do you
even you mentioned your last fight. You didn't go back
in terms of video. Have you even gone back in
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reviewed the last Cormier fight. I know it was a
fairly easy unanimous decision from your perspective. Do you even
go back and review that? Yeah? Absolutely, I go back
and I watched that fight all the time, and I
feel like I've learned a lot from it, for sure. Yeah.
How will we know if the fight is going the
way you wanted to go? Um? Well, well, mentally, you know,
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I'm just preparing myself to too, just to be free
and to have fun and just to have faith and
just to believe. Um. And you know when I do that,
things usually go well for me. So that's that's just
the plan. Because have you seen me right away, you know,
smiling and embraced it and and high five and the
fans and just seeming like, uh, just a grateful, happy dude,
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know that things are going well. How come you hashtag
cheating a hole uh in the instagram with Cormier weighing in,
because Daniel Cormier, Um, he uh. He did an old
wrestling trick where he was he was a pound point
two over two oh five our weight class and he
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had to surprisingly to UFC staff members hold up a
towel and uh, and he he rested his hands on
the towel while standing on the scale, and he lifted
himself off the scale and got his way down to
two or five. And normally, if you are even pointing
one over two oh five, you automatically have to give
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of your purse to your opponents. So he saved himself
by cheating. And uh, and I just thought it was
super unfair. That's uh, that's a John Bones Jones. You
can follow him on Instagram at Johnny Bones. He joins
us in the Doug Gallant Show. Of course, the pre
limbs are on FS one and the main event, the
main card is on pay per view. He joins us.
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He's getting ready for Daniel Cormier that's at the Hansas
Center this Saturday night. It's going to be a sell out.
It's going to be obscenely loud in there. Uh. McGregor
is gonna fight Mayweather as as arguably the greatest of
all time. When in the octagon, what's you're feeling about McGregor.
You're rooting four or against him in fighting against Floyd,
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I am I'm not rooting for anyone and the fight.
I'm just excited to watch it as a fan. I
think it's gonna be so great for our sport to
bring some of those boxing fans over. And then I
think it's gonna be great for boxing because I feel
like boxing is a little bit dry without Floyd Mayweather.
So I mean the whole world, even the common fan, uh,
you know, people who aren't die hard UFCR boxing fans
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are gonna be telling into this. So it's just great
for combat sports. And I'm just I'm just so grateful
for it is that does he have any chance? He
does have a chance. Everybody. I feel like everyone has
a punch of chance. I mean if if you were
to take a swing at me, I mean there's a
chance that may not block it. Um, everyone has a
fighter's chance, that punch of chance, I think in this case,
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so it's very unlikely that McGregor will pull off the
wind only because uh, I mean, Floyd Mayor whether has
been doing this since he was a young young boy,
and there's really no tricks that a guy like Mayweather
hasn't seen at this point. And as far as Maybewhether
having I'm sorry McGregor having beautiful knockout power, I mean
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everyone at that world championship level has has enoughout power. Yeah,
I'm it's a matter of being able to win that punch,
which I mean the greatest sponsors that he's been against
haven't been able to do. So. Yeah, I mean he's
arguably Say what you want about Floyd's power or lack thereof,
the fact is he's you know, and maybe he slows
down a little bit, but he's arguably the greatest defensive
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fighter we've ever seen. And if the if, the if,
the one chance that McGregor has is that one knockout punch,
it's it's prohibbly more more unlikely or probably yeah, more
unlikely that it would happen against Floyd, that it would
be somebody who feels like they could take a punch
because because you know, if that's a guy that has
has raw striking power, I just you feel like there's
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a lack of fluidity because it's not your chosen discipline.
Exactly like if you, if you really think about it,
if you, if you really think about it, you don't
think Miguel Koto has unbelievable knockout power or like a Canello.
I'm for all the people who are just saying mcgregy's
gonna win because you can knock do out with one point.
It's like, what a what a blind statement to make.
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I mean, all these guys cannot do out with one punch,
but no one has been able to do it against
the guy, let Floyd Mayweather. Guys who have been boxing
since they were little boys just like Floyd Mayweather haven't
been able to land that big punch because of the
brilliance with Floyd Mayweather. So I mean, you gotta you
gotta be I mean, it's switchful thinking the thing having power.
It's like seeing a guy who who can dead lets
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I don't know a thousand pounds and saying, oh he'll
he'll kick johns Joas because he's really strong. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's not how it works. There's an art. There's there's
an art to it, right, I mean like again, you've
you've done this, you've studied this, that there's an art
to it, and when you change discipline, it's it's really difficult.
I think. The other thing you concern yourself about is
a with Floyd is it does he respect Connor right?
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Like does he You mentioned Tyson right? When Tyson was
beaten in Japan, it was because he didn't respect Buster Douglas.
He didn't come in in shape. And people have asked
that question about you, like, look, you tweeted out month.
I believe it was Monday, right. I have zero respect
for you. Uh you blank. You're going to really hate
me by the time I'm done with you. There is
the one question about you versus Cormier is as you said,
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it wasn't wasn't the toughest fight for you last time?
Have you trained with the proper amount of respect for
Daniel Cormier? Could he sneak up on you? Absolutely so.
I've been undefeated for ten years now. Boyd Mayweld has
been undefeated for over twenty years, And I think, I
think what makes an athlete capable of doing things like that,
it's not that they're they're special any really more special
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than the next man. It's a part of the victory
is the fear that motivate was knowing that we're just human,
knowing that we can be dropped with me why what
we can not go out like any other guy, and
that fear um and motivations to do the extra, to
be obsessed with this art and and uh absolutely great
fighters know that you have to respect to everyone that
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you can never take anyone lately, despite you know what
the oddmakers say. It's good to have you back in
the odd con can't wait to see against Cormier and uh,
we'll we'll see if you're as dominant as you were
last time and as you have been in the past.
Thanks so much for Jonas, John, Thank you, sir, appreciate
being on the show. All right, that's John Bones Jones
who takes on Daniel Cormier a part of an outstanding
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card this Saturday night at the Hanta Center in Anaheim,
UFC two fourteen, available on pay per view. Reminder the
pre Limbs or on f S one. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays
at three pm Easter noon Pacific. We we have a
great lineup of personality starting with Clay Travis feeding into
Dan Patrick, to Colin Calherd too Rich Eyes into Me,
(40:42):
to the Gorman Boys, to Ben Mallord, Jason Smith, j
t the Brick. We had a great show, great shows,
but occasionally they say stuff that we gotta comment on.
That's where we play. And now say, what does the
Fox say? Colin Coward was back. Let's listen to him
(41:03):
lax poetic about how great Lebron James is. The great
thing that's happening in the NBA. If Lebron and Kyrie
get a divorce, the winners are the Celtics and the Lakers,
because the Celtics are then going to dominate the East
for the next ten years and Lebron James, don't kid yourself,
is considering the Lakers. Here's one thing Michael Jordan didn't do.
He didn't win with two teams. He certainly didn't win
(41:25):
titles with three teams. If Lebron James could win in Miami,
Cleveland and Los Angeles, who's done that, like in all
his businesses out here in Los Angeles. So let's be honest.
The NBA is better when the Lakers and the Celtics
are good. The NBA is better when the Lake it's Lakers,
(41:46):
Celtics or Nicks or you know, the major market teams
or teams. And they need teams in the Eastern Seaboard
to be good. But um, that is spin doctoring. To
end all spin doctoring, right, Like they named a Knew
White House spokesman spokesman, but if they ever need another one,
just turn everything he says about Lebron into everything he
(42:09):
says about Donald Trump. Right, let me just tell you now,
Michael Jordan's never won titles with three different franchises. That's true.
Michael Jordan never actually lost in the NBA finals either.
He didn't get a coach fired mid season, his other
star players didn't want to leave him mid run um,
(42:33):
and though he got into spats with ownership, never to
the point of forcing their hand in allowing him to
part as a free agent. It was a different era,
it's a different story. But let's not act like Michael
Jordan was somehow an inferior player because he didn't have
to hop scotch around the country in order to get
his franchise over the top. So that is some spin
(42:57):
doctor and spin doctrine.