Live From Cowboys Camp

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio
from the echo chamber. Apparently that is Cowboys Camp. I
am not in a box, but I feel like because
of our set up here, it feels like, right we
have our own little kind of cabana that's overlooking where
the Cowboys will soon have press conferences right after their

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practice is done. Spent some time watching the Pokes practice
out here in sunny Oxnard, California, part of our training
camp tour. We at the Rams earlier this week, the
Chargers next week. Of course, the Rams and the Chargers
little fisticuffs. Yesterday they actually had dudes booted from practice.
We'll get to that later on in the show. But
we are live today from Dallas Cowboys training camp. Uh.

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Not the best team in the NFL, but without any question,
the most interesting team in the National Football League. And
I can tell you spending just an hour and a
half watching practice and watching all that goes on around practice,
and then of course you think of the storylines, uh,
the the owner being now in the Hall of Fame,
the change at quarterback, and one quarterback going straight to

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the broadcast booth, joining our Troy Aikman, who's number one
in Fox Sports broadcast. It's just different with the Cowboys.
It's just a different level, even though it's the same
league as the Rams, as the Chargers, as almost any
other team in National Football League. You can tell me
the Patriots are better, a better organization. I wouldn't disagree
with that. It's just bigger when you have the star

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on the side of your helmet. Um. Mike Fowler, who's
our social media manager, is currently hanging a banner. Dan
Buyer is here. He'll give us the update of man
Bert is trying to make sure that we sound good. Uh,
and I have nobody to make sure I look good.
If you're watching us on Facebook Live, I will tell
you this. You have to keep telling yourself over and

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over and over again. One sentence okay, which is more
of a run on sentence. It's not great syntax, but
you have to. Last night, I watched the Houston Texans
take on the Carolina Panthers in a preseason game on
the NFL network, and great, dear Brad Nessler calling NFL game.
He'll call CBS SEC games. What a misstep by ESPN

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not bringing back Nessler. He goes to CBS, He's gonna
be awesome covering the SEC. And Deshaun Watson looked good.
It's inarguable he looked good. Um Tom Savage also looked
very good. Made a matter of fact, Tom Savage probably
look better and look better from the pocket. But I'm
not trying to diminish what Deshaun Watson did last night.

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I am not, but the sentence you have to keep
repeating to yourself over and over again. His preseason doesn't matter.
The preseason doesn't matter. The preseason doesn't matter. The preseason
doesn't matter, because if you look back historically, plenty of
good quarterbacks have looked good in the preseason, and plenty
of bad quarterbacks have looked good in the reseason. You

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name the court like I can give you look back
historically and you're like, hey, remember Achille Smith. Remember him
right comes out of Oregon. Thought it was he could
be the next kind of dynamic run past threat in
the National Football League. Go back and look at when
he was drafted in his first preseason, he was awesome? Awesome?
How good a quarterback was Achilles Smith. Um Blake Bortles

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is a maligned starting quarterback in the National Football League
I don't think he's as maligned as Clay Travis said
he was earlier today when Clay Travis believes that the
Jaguar should dump games in order to get Sam Donald,
in order to get Josh Rosen, in order to get
one of the young quarterbacks in the NFL. But if
you look back at his rookie season Blake Bortles, remember

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they wanted to red shirt him, they wanted to not
play Blake Bortles, but he was so good in his
first preseason that every one since well, you know one,
you should probably just play him because he's more ready
than you thought he was. This is inarguable. Go back

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and look at his game logs. Just download him. This
is not that hard to do. I go to any
website and just go, hey, look at his his game logs,
and go back and read what they said about Blake
Morals going back to two thousand fourteen, the preseasion look
pretty good. Better we thought probably ready. And so while

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Deshaun Watson we all want him to be good, like
we have this incessant desire to say what we saw
for for for four years at Clemson is going to
be a reality in the NFL. We all want to say,
like I knew everybody in the NFL, all these teams
made a mistake and I knew it. I knew it.
I knew it, And there's a bit of a confirmation bias.

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He makes a good throw, it should be pointed out.
He was very good, although he lacks some accuracy when
in the pocket, and he was better when he was
out of the pocket. And the knock on de Shaun
Watson was sometimes he's inaccurate in the pocket and he's
better out of the pocket, which is what's going to
ultimately fail you in the NFL. You have to be

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good between the tackles, throwing the football. All the other
stuff is just icing on top of the cake. It's great.
It's important to keep your eyes down the field to
keep your balance. But the reason that he was slipping
in the NFL draft was actually apparent last night, and
even if you look at the coverage which was which
was overwhelmingly positive. I watched afterwards. David Carr, of course,

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was the former number one overall pick, and he was
doing so without his left tackle. Was holding out with
the Houston Texans just you know, but he was also
playing with the twos and playing against the twos. I'm
not trying to take shots at Deshaun Watson. I'm trying
to paint a proper context, proper perspective. And if you
look at the high number of interceptions he had last
year at Clemson, it was because one he forced things,

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but two, maybe more importantly, he limited himself and tried
to show that he was a better pocket passer than
the his reputation that had been put in place. Okay,
and the only time that he started to scramble and
run and design runs for first downs and really instead
of running to throw was in the College Football Playoff,

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a strength that he absolutely has, but one that you
don't really need or even want in the NFL. And
like you can tell me, you have to be able
to move the pocket, that's not inaccurate. But I would
also tell you that if you look, we've talked about
quarterbacks who have remained um in the NFL and not

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been hurt, all of those quarterbacks are from the throw
from the pocket. A right like Tom Brady is still
doing it at forty years old. Why he's a pocket
pass They protect you in the pocket. Philip Rivers hasn't
missed the start since he started starting in two thousand
and six. Why he throws the Philip Rivers is slow. Okay,
he's not slow. For he's slow. He raised a pregnant woman,

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came in third. When you watched Tom Brady run, it
looks like he's dragging a dead body, Like it's painful
to watch those guys run. But they're nimble within the pocket,
and they're protected by the rules in the pocket. And
so look, I I'm in mus as much in love
with the idea that Deshaun Watson can be a five star,
lead Clemson to a national title, evolved as a quarterback,

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be this year's Dak Prescott, this year's got that's all
the Texans have needed, and he can allow the Texans
to take that next step. But I could, I could
if if you want to use last night as the example,
I'll point out last night he lacks some accuracy within
the pocket. Was better out of the pocket. Savage is
better in the pocket more than anything. Keep telling yourself
this sentence. Preseason means nothing. Preseason means nothing. Preseason means nothing,

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preseason means nothing. And once you start there, you can
and just watch him evolved like Dac was great last
year in in the preseason, he was great, but that
that that didn't prove to us that he was ready.
I mean, even his first couple of games, they were

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still a denial within a lot of people that he
was in fact ready. So let's not go crazy about
Deshaun Watson against the number two's and the Carolina Panthers
being very, very good and even especially in his and
he has poise, he is not rattled. But the questions

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about Deshaun Watson weren't whether or not he'd be rattled.
He'd be he would lack poise. The questions are would
he lack accuracy within the pocket when he's going through
his progressions. That's the thing that he needs to prove
on and that was not proven to be incorrect last night,
And even if it was last night, is not the
gauge for if he's ready to start in the National
Football League, because if you want to say he looked good,

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you'd also have to say that Tom Savage looked as
good or even better, especially from the pocket. If you
want to say that he looked good, that's great, you
also have to balance it with Blake Bortles was great
in his preseason. Achille Smith was great in his preseason.
Blaine Gabbert was outstanding in the Arizona Cardinals preseason opener
in the Hall of Fame Game. Remember that, like Damn

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Blake Bortles, Blake Gabbert is good. Like no, he's not.
It's the preseason. It's the preseason. It doesn't mean anything.
It's the preseason. Doesn't mean anything. It's the preseason. I
mean anything. Remember if you watch Austin hower Is you
know the third time, it's Cementent. It's the preseason. It
doesn't mean anything. Uh. Coming up next, the least surprising

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story ever out of the NBA is coming out of
the NBA. We'll share with you what that is and
some things we learned from asking some Oxnard police men
a question at the Coffee Bean in te Leaf earlier today.
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especially if you just signed him and you're the Sacramento
Kings looking to clean up your image. Right. That was
the whole thing with Sacramento is, Hey, we're gonna bring
in some veterans. We got this great uh rookie class
can bring in veterans that have been through the wars

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of the NBA, that have evolved as people, and they're
gonna help kind of rebuild the culture of who we
are Sacramento Kings, right, and Zach randolph Um up until
today had kind of been the embodiment of knucklehead when
he was young after a one and done year at
Michigan State early on with the Portland's jail Blazers, and

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then kind of rebooted his image. Mean, he's one of
the most beloved players from any hometown in the NBA.
Considering or if you consider the Memphis is like adopted hometown.
You when you land at Memphis Airport, you'll see pictures
of him. He's he He and Tony Allen, who both
came from tough backgrounds and had issues early on their

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NBA career, they were the face of the city of Memphis.
And so when he signed his contract with the Sacramento
kings a two year, twenty four million dollar deal, you
felt like that cemented, that cemented Zach Randolph as a
guy who's gone through complete image rehab. And I don't

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want to go over overboard on on a marijuana arrest, right, Like,
let's not go crazy. Let's not pretend like marijuana isn't
being decriminalized and frankly made legal in many parts of
the country. But this is not the Hey, he was
pulled over and there was a blunt in the cigarette,

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you know, in the in like the ashtray of his car.
You know, we make astrays on cars, most cars anymore. Anyway, Um,
this one doesn't read great. The l A County Sheriff'spartment
arrested Sacramento Kingsford Zach Randolph on felony charge of marijuana
possession with intent to sell. So here's what we did today. Um,
we're in Oxnard, California, Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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We're live at Dallas Cowboys Camp. You heard the air
horn go off. You know that's the Cowboys switching from
station to station and station. We're told they have twenty
five more minutes of practice, then they have some light
work afterwards. Then the Cowboys will start to come over
and we'll pop him on air. Ox Start is fifty
miles north of where we normally broadcast from, or or
thereabouts about a hundred twenty miles from the part of

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l A where uh Zach Randolph was arrested last night.
And look. L A p D officials told ABC seven
that officers want to routine patrol. When they encountered a
group of drinking alcohol, smoking weed, playing loud music while
blocking the street at Nickerson Gardens Project in Watts the
bigger story is what the hell was Zach Randolph doing

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at Nickerson Projects? Right? Like this wasn't like it's one
of those deals like you got to Dave matthews Man
concert or you go to the Fist Better Fish concert.
You could arrest anybody for weed right, like you could
literally it's it's fishing a barrel figuratively literally fishing a
barrel like you could get weed. Guys. But like, dude,

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you're worth a hundred million dollars. You just signed a
guaranteed contract for twenty four mill. You're not even from La.
It's not like I went back to hang my boys,
like you're in the Nickerson projects. And then the cops
roll up and Zack Randolph goes running away like he's
a seventeen year old. So we drive up to Oxnard, California.

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All of us kind of had the same idea. Let's
beat the you get there early, beat the traffic, and
we meeted at a coffee shop. It's called Coffee Bean
and Tea Leaf. It's a it's a chain. I don't
believe it's outside of southern California anymore. Um. And when
we roll up, we're talking about the story, and there
is how many how many uh motorcycles I would say

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in the six or seven varieties. I know, shocker, there
cops are at a coffee shop, right. I don't know
if they were eating donuts, that would have been far
too cliche. But so I I pulled aside a couple
officers um, and I asked them, I said, how much
do you have to have in order for an officer
to believe you have the intent to sell? And this

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was interesting to me because we were arguing with that
announces a two ounce, like I'm not really a weed guy,
So I don't know, like I didn't and frankly, I
didn't bring anything to measure with that. I don't know
what what what even what it even looks like. I
know what it looks like. I'm not I'm thinking I
could be that naive, but I don't know, like if
somebody said here's an ounce, like I'd have to just
take your word for it. I really don't know. So

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the officers were incredibly kind um and they were like, well,
like it just kind of depends, like what do you
mean it depends like well, like you just kind of
It's like it's like the definition of pornography, you know,
when you see it, like you can usually on your person,
you can smoke an eighth of announce, So if it's
more than an ounce, you could you could probably you know,

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it's a bag, you could probably get away with it
and just get a ticket. But you start to get
a big bag or there's little baggies on you, or
he gets to two ounces or more and all right,
now we got the intent to sell. So I'm not
sure I really got a clear answer. It kind of
feels like it's intent to sell because it said so.
And I do you think that Zach Randolph, who's six

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ft nine and thirty six years old, you know, he
could probably get away with the Hey, I can, I
can smoke a lot more than the average bear. But
it it doesn't read good. And if you couple it
with the fact that Zach Randolph was rumored to being
the kingpin for a marijuana selling ring in Indianapolis years ago,

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and then when you're like, what was he doing in
the projects with with I mean, like I hate the
word hooligans, but like that kind of like dudes were
blocking the street, drinking, smoking, playing music, Like what are
you doing? This is when keeping it rio goes wrong.

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Officers called for backup when the crowd and people began
throwing bottles. Several police cars ended up with smashed windows
and slash tires Like that's where that's where your star
power For the former face of the Memphis Grizzlies, now
the face of the we're rebuilding and changing our culture.
Sacramento Kings is hanging out. That is not a good story.

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That is not one to which you're like, oh, it's
it's an NBA player caught with weed. You know, I'll
just brush it aside. Weed is being decriminalized. It's not like.
This feels like the most old school NBA story ever
and most Zach Randolph story ever. And oh yeah, by
the way, it's the Sacramento Kings. That's a wow, that's

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a whow. I know Zach did play for the Clippers
back in O nine at a d U I R
s then, but you know, I don't want to be
one of I'm I'm not one of those guys. That's like,
I can't believe that. And then somebody had marijuana and
it was reefer madness. Like I'm not, let's not go
crazy about it. It's the amount was enough for an officer,

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and like, what are you doing going running? Right? What
are you doing going running? Such a rookie move from
a veteran. So that's a rookie move. And yes, there
were guns recovered, although no guns were linked to Zack Randolph.
He was He was released on Bond this morning, smiling face.
And I'm sure that at some point you'll get dialed

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down to a misdemeanor and will pretend like it never happened.
But just not a strong look from Zach Randolph and not.
And it's one of those to which all those pr
stories that we've been told about Randolph rebuilding and rebooting
his image and how he's going to affect the culture
of the King's feel very very fake when this comes out.
Doesn't mean he's the worst guy on earth, ah, but

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it does mean that that he should have listened to
Chris Carter right, shouldn't even had a fall guy. You
got to have a fall guy, And that what happened.
Carlino Anthony got caught with weed, one of his boys
with him. The boy to his boy took the fall, right,
That's like one of the deals. But Zach Randolph, who
famously held up or his boys, famously held up Sebastian
Telfair at gunpoint because he wasn't passing in the ball

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early on his career in Portland, may not have evolved
nearly as much as we gave him credit for. If
y'all got a crew, you've got to have a fall
guy in the crew, got to have a fall. It's
the it's the most honest and real advice. It was
just it was too real for for mainstream America. Yes,
Ryan Music. Maybe that's why he ran. It's because the

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cops show up. He looks for his fall guy, and
the fall guy he was already gone. So maybe he's like,
I got no one else to pawn this off on,
So that's why he had to take off. Cops, roll up,
give it to one of your guys. Has to be there.
What is he doing holding that much? Who is Zach
Randolph beating in a race? I mean that it is

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interesting though. It is like I understand he's thirty six
and he's not nearly as fast it used to be,
But professional athlete gets run down by a cop, right, Like,
that's not that's not that's not a strong statement for
the speed and agility of Zach Randolph. Well, it's also like,
even if he's in a giant crowd of people that
are blocking the street, they're probably going, who is that

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six nine guy? But even if there's fifty people, I'm
sure he had to have been the biggest one there
by far, just sticking straight out police say twenty people
were spotted, nineteen of them around six ft one man
about eight ft five inches. That's what you would get
from the report. I just, I just I don't know
to this just it's all kinds of dumb. I mean
the first like, what are you doing in the projects? Dude?

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What are you what are you doing there? And I
ask any of my guys from l A, and they're
all saying the same thing, like he was in the
Nickerson project, Zach Randolph, Like that is a good way
to get gat That is a good way to get
all your jewelry stolen, to get in to get your
car stolen. That's just it is. That is a rough
neck of the woods, crazy crazy stuff. All right. We're

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live from Dallas Cowboys training camp here in Oxnard, California.
And it's interesting because the Cowboys they have made a
Super Bowl since the ninth He's right, I mean, there
were years of relative irrelevance, and uh yet it just

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seems like to me they're not the best team in
the league. America's team is the most interesting team in
the league. I'll I'll explain why they're so interesting, But
first let's find out what's Trending Alive show Fox Sports
Radio Live from Dallas Cowboys training Camp. Best team in

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the league Allie's heading into the season is the new
England Patriots, right like we would all agree. I mean,
they they add wide receiver who can take the top
off the defense and Brandon Cooks. They bring back Rob Gronkowski,
who remember, did not play for them in the Super
theye won the Super Bowl without Rob Gronkowski. We cannot
under state that enough. They've reconfigured their backfield. Uh, they

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have gone out and they have done some really smart
things in terms of for we haven't drafted great let's
trade it for U veteran players. We know what we're getting.
Stevon Gilmour comes over from Buffalo. Mike gillies Lee as
well in the backfield, although he's having some issues right
now from Buffalo as well. But the point is that
we're trying to make is like, look, the Patriots were

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the best team in the FC last year. Um, and
then you add Gronk, who wasn't with them as part
of their Super run. You add Cooks, who gives them
um an unbelievable weapon the likes of which they haven't
had since Randy Moss, and I'm not saying that he's
Randy Moss, but in order to do everything they want
to do underneath, you have to have it's you're better

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off if you have somebody who can take the top
off of defense, whereas you have to have a safety high.
They now have that along with all their Remember how
good a year Hogan had last year? Were like when
I haven't mentioned that Chris Hogan. He had a tremendous
year last season. So their offense is good. Their defense,
we we would think is getting better. Last year. They
fixed the office some line, which is what ultimately let

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them down when they lost in Denver the year earlier,
and Denver was with their dynamic defense was able to
pressure and get in Tom Brady's face. So I make
no argument that the heading into the season, the overwhelming
favorite in Vegas to reach the Super Bowl, the overwhelming
consensus in the Nation Football League, and you talk to
football people, not just if DR fans, the best team
in league is the New England Patriots. All Right, the

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Seahawks still have a dynamic defense, they have playmakers on offense.
You could make the case of the Seahawks the Atlanta
Falcons um the Green Bay Packers, who went into Dallas
last year with third stringers in their defensive backfield beat
the Cowboys on their home field. Like, I could make
the case for plenty of teams Pittsburgh Steelers when Levian

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Bell returns, and ultimately he will, they have a more
dynamic offense now with Martavis Bryant, who was um, he
was what what's the what's the conditional? Conditionally? Me and
State were like, hey, dude, listen, we know you cannot
stop smoking weed, but will let you play and see
what you did? Right? Yeah, and yesterday he got access
to preseason activities, but the regular season is still up

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in the air. Right, He's on double secret pro basis.
So the point is, if you look at Antonio Brown,
Mark Tavis Brian, all the different weapons at Levan Bell,
all the weapons that Ben Roethlisberger has, like you can
make the case of the Dealers have a more dynamic
offense even than the Cowboys. But there's not to seem
as interesting as the Cowboys, right, and if you go

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out on their practice field, you wait, they got to
Jason Witten, who at thirties six years old, is still
able to make plays. They have Dez Bryant, who may
not be peak Dez, especially since he had the foot
problem two years ago which limited his season and really
obviously hurt the Cowboys season. But they still have Dez,

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who's I think in arguably a top ten wide receiver
in the NFL, maybe not top five anymore. They have
Ezekie Elliott, who we don't know if he'll play early
in the season in or what's going to become of
these these off the field issues. But Ezeke Elliott, it
wasn't crazy to think he could get two thousand yards
last year plus in his first year. Tyron Smith is
gonna join us later, arguably the best offensive lineman in

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the National Football League. Then it's Dak Prescott's first training
camp as um unequivocally the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
The owner is a Hall of Famer and also quirky
and a quote machine. The defense, which they continue to
adjust and evolve and was rebuilt, remember two years ago,

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didn't have Sean Lee. He returns, uh. They have some
dynamic playmakers, albeit one of the best defensive lineman out
first four games with a PD suspension. Like there's all
kinds of stuff that the Cowboys aren't the best team
or in arguably the best team, but they're the most interesting.
They're just so many different levels. Plus they play a

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much more difficult schedule this year. Last year play a
very soft schedule, and they have the star on the
side of their helmet. Plus you got Cowboys, Michael Irvin
at uh at the NFL Network, Troy Ach and Tony Romo,
all these four Moose Johnson, all these former Cowboys covering them.
Being put in that situation. Can I be critical of Jerry?
Can I be critical of Dallas and yet still be

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able to cover cover them and still be welcoming to
the Cowboy family? I think I don't think there's any
even clothes. They're the most interesting team in the NFL
because they're really good and they have some huge strengths,
but there's some stuff to them which makes them just
a fascinating watch. Let's dig into my sack sacking, God
leave sack. I actually, I gotta I gotta be on.

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How much is Ramo's drinking Ramo's you know he's doing
He's intentionally doing this to it. We didn't take the
Rams camp, didn't take him to Cowboys camp. You know
he found out we're taking him to Brown's camp and
he's mad. So now he's he's delaying us. Uh. John
Ramos doing a little day drinking back in German Oates.
We're out here in not a Californiam. Kidding with you, Ramos.
We know you're balancing things like a one armed paper hanger.
What do well, let's let's start out with the National

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Football League. Um oh, wait, we gotta pick a game
with your sack. We've got fake news. Ramos has got
real news fake news. Ready, Hey, we're trying to we're
having a good good time in Oxnard. And now there's
a cat mewing in the back. Maybe that was the
cat that was in St. Louis. We'll get to that

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in a little bit. Real news are fake news. Doug
on the heels of yesterday's rumors about Bengals backup quarterback
A J. Mccarroen, The m m QB dot com says
Cincinnati received a trade offer of a second round pick
for mccarroen. Is that real news or fake news? They're
real and they're spectacular. Yes, that is correct. The reports

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is Cincinnati likes mccaren so much because he has two
years left on his deal, that a deal would need
to happen, that would have to blow them away. So
a second round pick wouldn't be enough for a J. McCarron,
Which lows my mind to think that's the case, especially
to Doug. When you look at the quarterbacks that are
in the draft next year that have been talked about.

(29:08):
You can talk about the quarterbacks that none of them
will be around with cincinnat But it doesn't mean the
Bengals would matter. It's the other teams in the NFL.
Drew Brees is playing out the last year of his
contract with the New Orleans Saints. Who knows what's gonna
happen in Miami with Jake Cutler. If if Cutler works out,
if he doesn't, if he's gonna want to continue. I
can't I I can't. I also cannot believe that only

(29:31):
that a second round pick wasn't enough. That's I'm surprised
by that. If if the Bengals think they're getting more,
good luck with that. I don't think anybody's given a
first round pick, but we'll see. It all depends on
who goes down, and if whoever goes down has a
relationship and believes that a j mccarrin can come in
short order. Look, he was good two years ago when
he played in playoff game, it wasn't great. I'm I'm

(29:52):
intrigued with them. Tyler Eiffort, Tyler Eiffort being back, how
does that change them in the red zone? Has that
change Andy Dalton? Because that was a team that was
wildly disappointing, Losing Hugh Jackson to the Cleveland Band, Cleveland Browns,
losing Tyler Effort to injury last year. They were just
not the same offense in spite of the fact they

(30:12):
have so many weapons, and they add to that weaponry
with Joe Mixon being drafted as well as being the
fantasy guy that I am. All. The word out of
Cincinnati is that the Bengals, if Jeremy Hill was the
number one back, maybe that's an opportunity where just like
the Browns, are giving brock Oswidler every chance to win
it and if you can't, then they can end up
moving on. Um moving on to the next story. In

(30:33):
real news or fake news, the New York Knicks are
asking Carmelo Anthony to expand his wish list of teams
to be traded to. Is that real news or fake news.
I'm gonna go real news. They're real and they're spectacular. Yes,
the New York Post is saying the Knicks one other
teams outside of the Rockets to try and pursue a
trade with. The report adds that the Pelicans, Calves, Thunder

(30:53):
and Blazers all would have an interest in Karmelo Anthony,
but Mellow right now only wants to go to the Rockets. See.
I woke up this morning thinking the number one NBA
story would be that story, and would be the fact
that Melo was playing pickup ball with c J McCullum
and he was wearing a hoodie the whole time, and
the hoodie was up and like sinched up, and then
he shot. He shot an amazing sky hook shot. Right

(31:14):
Like all kinds of that video is. He's playing with
c J McCullum. The Blazers have openly opined to want
to trade for him, at least CJ McCullum and Damian Lillard,
the Blazers that matter, have said that. And then he's
playing pickup basketball with CJ McCullum. Like all that makes
it made sense. I thought that was gonna be the
NBA story until Zach Randolph got busted with a with

(31:35):
a huge sack of weed in the projects in Los Angeles.
Real news or fake news, Doug, the rally kitten that
ran on the field last night in St. Louis only
to be followed by a Grand Slam is now the
official mascot of the Red Birds and we'll be at
home games for the rest of the season. No, that's
a fake news. You are fake news. Yes, it is

(31:56):
fake news. They can't find the cat. Um. They let
it go outside with stadium. Some girl apparently picked it
up and left with it, so they don't know where.
They don't know where the cat is. We do know
one thing, Doug. We know that the kitten is not
Kitty Boot John's former cat that was malled by the
neighbor's dog. So we do know your dog with your
cat was malled by a dog's affirmative. Sorry, I mean look,

(32:21):
this is um. I just had to clarify just so
people didn't think it was the same cat that we No,
I think that's important. This is funny. So I in
my neighborhood, we have that um not neighborhood watch. What's
that neighborhood email called uh oh? Shoot people have it
they know anyway, group chat. No, it's it's not next

(32:42):
door next door, right, So we just moved in this neighborhood,
but we were in the same house three years ago
when we got our cat. And our cat has already
more of an into our cat. But she knows to
go out and to come back, but I don't ever
let her go out after dark because of coyotes. Right,
there's a substantial coyote problem in uh in my where
I live, and look, my cat is safe. I want

(33:05):
to make sure, and my daughter is coming back to town,
so I know the cat is locked away so that
if a coyote gets the cat, it's gonna be I
guess on her watch, on my watch. But I did
get a next door neighbor update that that a half
eaten cat was in the front so the neighbor's home,
and I guess the coyotes to blame. It was not
the Rally cat. It was not my cat. Me ouch.

(33:28):
So these are real world problems. Your can't ever go
to o An Angels game ever, Maybe just mosey on
over like apparently the Captain St. Louis no no no
um final real news are fakeness for the day. Real
news are fake news. Doug, a nine year old woman
from Thailand completed her college degree in ten years, earning
a bachelor's degree in human and family development. I'm gonna

(33:50):
go real news and they're spectacular, that is correct. Good job, Doug.
Kim Lan Jennicole was given her diploma by the king
and a ceremony me at the school just outside of Bangkok.
And here's the interesting note about this. Since she graduated,
she now is going to transfer to Yukon and play
it immediately and try to win that title, bounce back

(34:16):
from last year's upset. So they got veteran leadership in
the Yukon backcourt. Was very funny. I'm not gonna add
to that Scott lead sack. That was. That was very funny.
My favorite story of the day. And uh it um,
I guess has something to do with sports, maybe has
something to do with weed, but it involves a stolen

(34:36):
car and a surprise left behind in that stuff. It's
neck on the Doug Gottlieb Show. When you're ready to
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check out True car dot com today. Ah here's the

(35:02):
story you don't read every day. We'll get to a
new story about about the Dallas Cowboys. We are broadcasting
live from Dallas Cowboys training camp. Todd Archer, who covers
the team and writes for ESPN dot com, had a
very very interesting number to put by the job security

(35:24):
of Jason Garrett, the head coach of the Pokes. Will
share that with you top of the R plus. We're
expecting some of the Cowboys to stop by it. I've
told you before it it is different with the Cowboys.
Cell it's a different level of intensity, different level of importance,
and coming off a season in which they had home
field advantage. Um, I think up until they played Atlanta, right,

(35:45):
Atlanta have to know I home philivanas route they had
on Bill advantas route. They lost there, which this this does.
It's not the first time that's happened. But um, we've
seen coaches who lose that game get fired. And you'll
be interested to hear the number that was put by
UH put by Jason Garrett's job security in a one

(36:05):
to ten ranking or one to five ranking UH in
regards to a to the hot seat. But I love
this story. A bear swipes a car for a joy
ride and then leaves a present behind this from Colorado.
Stories of Colorado are now they're not yet at Florida level,

(36:27):
right like you can always like oh with Florida. But
anytime there's a Colorado story, you assume there's also weed involved,
because they were the first to legalize weed. Of course,
they taxed weed, made a bunch of money from weed.
So maybe that's the part the only part missing. But
this is from the Durango Herald. Um Ron Cornelius found

(36:47):
his car after an animal found his car after an
animal mode his mailbox. A bear broke into an suv,
took it for a joy ride, crashed it, thrashed the interior,
then pooped in side right. The bear hijacked a Subaru.
Then he realized, what the hell am I doing driving
a Subaru. I gotta get out of this thing, right

(37:07):
from Courtnelius from cools his neighbor early Friday, releasing the
parking break and causing the vehicle to roll down the
driveway and crash into the utility box and the mailbox,
the paper reports. Now, there's a bunch of different parts
to this year. First of all, this is why even
if you have a parking break, you always leave the
car in gear and then and that if you've ever

(37:27):
driven a standard or stick shift whatever you want to
call it, the same thing. Um, I always leave it
in gear and put the parking brake on. That it's
like double safe, doubly safe. Somebody obviously chose not to
do so. Secondly, this disc does point to that somebody
still drives a stick shift Subaru, which like this, I
didn't outside of it. Maybe if it's like a w

(37:48):
r X and this was not, that's a very fast
street legal Subaru, which Hall's asked like, maybe that is
the maybe, the only way in which I would approve
of you driving a stick shift Subaru was getting automatic man, right, Um,
unless you're towing something, I guess. But the bear stealing it?
The bear, and I love this quote. It would have

(38:09):
taken human being hours to do with this bear did
in a couple of minutes. If you look at the pictures.
It completely trashed the interior of this car, which reminds
me of do you guys remember the far Side cartoons?
Do you guys remember those? Darry Larson I believe was
the artist far Side cartoons. Anyway, I used to be
very popular in newspapers. Then you could buy a book

(38:29):
of all far side far side cartoons. But there's a
famous far side cartoon where, um, you know, there's two
bears and they're thinking they're looking like they're hunting human beings,
and one bear turns the other bear and says, what
do you think these claws are just for picking berries? Right,
It's one of the things about bears. We think of
the dude Fuzzy fuzzy because of Smoky the Bear, and
because of Yogi the Bear, uh, Winnie the Pooh, and

(38:51):
then we start to realize, like, oh my gosh, they're
incredibly strong animals that will trash your car, steal your car,
and apparently they're the fantom pooper anybody. Hey, hey, you
guys know what the fan of Pooper is, right, going
to road trip with the team, like, sneak into somebody's room,
go number two, sneak out without flushing, leave it behind
so that somebody somebody goes in and the go into

(39:12):
the restroom and they do like to remember the Godfather too, right,
all right, that that kind of reaction, that's the fan
of Pooper. You can always blame it on a bear. Now,
how safe is Jason Garrett's job maybe less than you thought.
We cover that from Cowboys camp. Next, What up, Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you live from

(39:36):
Dallas Cowboys training camp. We're gonna be joined by a
couple of Cowboys upcoming. I think sometimes we freak out
over headlines. In this case, people seem to be freaking
out over uh, the actual context. ESPN dot Com has
the guy named Todd Archer covers to the NFL he
he rated coaches on the hot seat. Um, shouldn't be

(40:01):
a surprise. John Fox was nine in twenty three in
Chicago after getting fired um, first by the Carolina Panthers
and then by the Denver Broncos. Remember he gets fired
by the Broncos. Then they turned around win a Super Bowl. Uh.
And they won a Super Bowl based on their defense,
and he was a defensive guy. And he foxes nine
three in Chicago. He's lost twenty three of twenty of

(40:22):
thirty two games as coach of the Bears. Some of
that was he inherited disaster, but some of that is
they just haven't gotten any better. And he'll take the
brunt to blame Chuck Bogana, who I've said this before
by Chuck Bogano. Um, somehow he staved off an out
sting over the past couple of years. Obviously at the

(40:43):
worst fake fake punt call in the history or recent
memory of the NFL. And if not for angew Luck,
they don't come back and win when they're in the
playoffs a couple of years ago against the Kansas City Chiefs.
But uh, like Chuck Bogano was one of those guys
in all honesty, like if he wasn't beloved, and if
he hadn't had cancer and there wasn't Chuck Strong, would

(41:06):
he still be the coach there? Right? Like Andrew Luck
hasn't been good enough, hasn't been healthy. They haven't had
the surrounding cast, and that's one of the reasons they
made a change general manager. But they haven't been well
coached either. In his year when he was out fighting cancer,

(41:28):
that's when Bruce Arians took over and did a great job.
And of course Bruce Arians for the most part, is
done a really good job. But the Arizona Cardinal so, um,
if that's the control group. But if you look at
these ratings, I mean, you can't freak out over Jason
Garrett being a two because in the context of it
is Garrett's not completely safe. But they basically said barring

(41:50):
a disaster, and would have to be a disaster considering
how good they were last year for the thirteen and
three season after an injury plague too Alice in fifteen
where they lost Romo, they lost Daz, and they lost
Orlando Scandrid. Speaking of which, those are some nice cleats,

(42:13):
um we got turning on your microphone. Those are some
nice cleats. Thank you. The nikes they're just they're just nikes.
They're just blue. How are you? I'm good? Yeah, take
take Take me through the camp. So far going good.
You know it's been an uphill battle. I'm grinding, trying
to get better, trying to be the best I can
for this team. Oh come on, you're giving me the
all I'm trying to We're getting better one in the
game at a time, when practice at the time. I mean,

(42:35):
how you can't get better two games at a time.
You only play one at a time. I must never play.
I did play. I played college basketball, played professionally overseas.
But I know that I also know that the cliche
answer of I'm getting better how's it been for you,
like you're getting you getting out there, and and does
it does it feel last year's camp coming off of injury,
have a good year? Give me your sense of how's it?

(42:56):
How's it actually going? I feel like last year and
I played like it too. Uh, this year feels totally different,
you know. Orlando Scandra joining us on the Dug Outlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, So, like, look,
last year you talked about not feeling good. That's hard
because it has to be not even not feeling good,
not playing well. I understood, But how much of it
was mentally coming back and guarding against injury? How much

(43:19):
of it is just being out of the rhythm? How
much body wasn't as responsive? You know? And I wasn't
in rhythm and I wasn't comfortable, and I felt like
I was maybe a step behind on things. But this year,
I feel good, you know, I feel great going on things.
I feel like every day I'm coming out competing every day,
I feel like I'm getting a little better. You know.
Of course, I feel like there's sometimes in practice where
you know, I don't get better in things, and I
regressed a little bit. But I feel like after that regression,

(43:40):
you know, I climb up again. How is this camp?
You've been in a bunch of these with the Cowboys.
How is this camp where there's no question about who
the quarterback is? Um, there's not a lot of questions
in terms like last year you you had a new
running back, You've had questions about Dez whatever, Like there
doesn't seem to be a ton of questions about who's
gonna play where, who's going to you had questions. I've

(44:01):
never had questions about who the running back was and
what's going on with Dez and what this was. That
was from the outside looking in. But like I said,
we don't have the Doug Gottlas Show playing in the
locker room. We don't have ESPN playing in the locker room.
So you know, we just come out every day and
we do it for each other. You know, we all
we got so So how is it is this different
than other ones or is the exact same? No, I
mean it's all every year is different. But this team

(44:22):
is just you know, we got players. We got Dakus
a year old, or we got Zeke WUIs a year old,
or we got our old line who's played together another
year We got some young defensive backs that are hungry
and playing and ready and eager to learn. We got
Byron who was just making great strides. We got Heath
who's now a starter, UM fourteen and two, shooting thirteen
three last year. And now the expectations are raised. Uh

(44:45):
is that for you? For you? For you? How is
that in terms of your level of prepartness I got?
I got the same exact expectations. The first goal is
to win the East. The second goal is to one
a playoff game. Next goal is to get to the
Super Bowl, and ultimately you know what that is to
win a Super Bowl? Sure, no question. Orlando Scandrick joining
us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

(45:07):
so in terms of being a VET now having young guys,
Oh man, you guys kill me with this. What what
year do you actually turn into a VET? Because it's
number ten for me, I know, So what year do
you actually turn into a VET? Probably three? Damn I'm
just now being a VET now. No no, I said,
being a Vet now and having when they bring in
young guy, why are you messing with me? Because I'm
just trying to catch up and get your sense and Kim,

(45:29):
you're kind of messing with me. I just want to
know when I became a vet your year three but
like now you're you're totally You're you're completely secure, and
you're like, there's I wasn't last year? Though? Are the
other times when I got contract extensions? Well only because
they're coming off of injury? And you even said your
body wasn't right last year? Like being a vet not
about my body? What's it like to be a guy

(45:50):
who now you have these young guys that you have
to not just worry about yourself, but you gotta teach
us what I mean, that's the same. You know, I
take the same mentality as it was given to me
when I got here, when Brian got here, when he
was a rookie, when Morris guy here he was a rickie.
I just go out and I just try to give
him all, and I try to set the pace and
lead by example. You know, you don't gotta do too
much talking how much you're gonna play this weekend. I
don't know you should actually get it, but do you

(46:10):
do you want to? Like? I mean, of course I
want to play. It's a chance to get better. Yeah,
But there's also garden against injury. I'm ready to get better.
I want to work. I want to be on point.
You know, I got one of the best receivers would
be in our building in September eleven at seven pm
century So so you'll go. I mean, obviously you're gonna
do whatever. But you like because some guys we talked

(46:32):
who we're talking with yesterday? Who was who said? Um?
Who's He said, like, look, I just need a series
or two just to feel right in order to get
out there in preseason. I don't know who told you that.
I think it's Greg Jennings who joined us yesterday. He's like,
I just needed I just need a game. Wide receivers
say they only need a game. Ginnings is on the couch.
I know he's on the couch, but he was on
the field. Yeah he was. But I'm I want to play, man,

(46:54):
I'm trying to win a championship. I ain't don't not
saving it. You know, every chance to get out there
is a chance I can get better, as the chance
I can watch film is a chance I can feel
something a little different. All right, does this team feel
better than previous teams You've been on a twelve win team.
Was that three years ago? I don't know. We don't
have it, people, but I know you do. There's a
lot of dude, do you know everybody's name on the team?

(47:16):
I know a majority of the people. Yeah, listen, we're
just trying to build a team, like I Told'm trying
to be the best that we can. If we can
all be our best individually collectively, will come together and
we'll like the results. I promise you that last year
we liked the results. I don't think there was any
question about it. Obviously, come up one field goal short
against against the Packers. But for the most part of

(47:37):
you the best team in the NFL last season, and
I don't think that's in question. Like I said, we're
trying to build a team together. We're trying to, you know,
achieve a come and go. You don't finish first, you
finished last. We had a great regular season last year,
but we were below five d in the playoffs and
we didn't get it done. Most most important question, Okay,
you're in these in Uh you're in the is uh

(48:00):
the residents in so you netflix in? I mean I
go to sleep after we're done. We get eight hours
of sleep. You just said ten year veteran. Now I
have to get I got ten o'clocks late for you.
You're eating early dinner. We need to get eight hours
of sleep. Let's count them together. If you get out
at tenny, you gotta sleep at ten thirty, eleven, thirty, one,
thirty two, thirty, three thirty or thirty five, thirty, six thirty,

(48:22):
gotta be up at six thirty and the lift. So
you gotta eat. So you go? You? You are you? Now?
Are you one of those guys when you hit the
bed you go right to bed? Yeah. I turn off
the TV and try to get put my phone away,
and I try to let my mind go to sleep.
And when you wake up, you go right to the phone.
Are good? Go to weights? No? But I'm saying, like
your routine? All right? Let me ask you a question.
What kind of car do you drive? You would never

(48:45):
put water in it? Not charge it? Right? Uh no?
So why would I stay up all night and not
refiel my body? No, I'm just asking of your routine.
Some some dudes take a long time to go to sleep.
I'm one of these guys. I hit the pillow. If
if this is you, where you turn off the lights
and you go to sleep. You're out. Some guys they
just look. It takes me an hour to go to sleep.

(49:07):
I was interested more in your routine. The first thing
I do is I wake, I check out my phone.
I go to check out Twitter to see what's what's
going on in the world, in the world around me.
I was just asking more. You've been up since sixty
so I'm gonna go to sleep. When I wake up tomorrow, Marion,
I'm gonna use the bathroom and I'm gonna wash my face.
Then I'm probably gonna look at my phone. All right.
That's that's a that's a fair assessment of what O

(49:28):
Landry Scandrick does to do. You did legs today, would
looking it's looking sool today. I'm messing with you. I
don't know why you can mess with me and I
can't mess back. But you totally care. But you're antagonizing
me because you're not getting the answers that you want.
You want me to say, Oh, we're the best team
in the NFL. I don't need preseason practice. What were
we talking about practice? I didn't ask you, and I
didn't I didn't ask you. I'm telling you last year

(49:52):
you said, well, you never played, so I said, all right,
Greg Jenningson played. He did. He played two years ago
with the Dolphins. He told us, hey, and I was
surprised by answer. He said, I felt like Alani one
preseason game to be sharp. I'm asking you, as a
guy who's been the league for ten years, how much
you need to be sharp? And you said, I like playing.
I'm young. I'm you know, I don't know how old
Greg was when he retired. I'm assuming he was maybe

(50:13):
thirty two thirty three when he retired, But I just
made thirty years old, you know. And I'm I'm I
feel like I'm still an ascending player. I'm not ready
to start shutting it down. When you start cutting corners
and taking time off and not wanting to do things,
that's the beginning of the end. See that's a good answer.
That's a good answer. Orlando Scandrick. Appreciate you joining us.
Orlando Scandrick been up since six thirty. Took a leak,

(50:33):
checked his phone, and then went and did waits and
then joined us here in the Doug got Lip Show.
How the Packers underperformed during Aaron Rodger's career the most
famous packer. I'm still alive, chimed in find out what
his answer is next. That was one of those, Um,
Orlando Scander just joined us. That was one of those

(50:55):
permission to treat the witnesses hostile. Uh, that wasn't that
was interesting. But he's been up since six thirty in
the morning, which he made evident to us he's gotten
his if you've got eight hours of sleep though, I
My wife's that way, like, you know, she can take
it hour of sleep, Like, I have no sympathy if
your day goes bad, but you've had eight hours of sleep,
Like the rest of the world does not deal on
eight hours of sleep. So he was like, hey, ten

(51:16):
thirty and then he counted off the hours. To me,
that was things can go bad in a hurry when
you're doing live interviews. But what's interesting about that was
as I kind of walked my back myself back through
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Uh Dan Buyer here alongside cast of hundreds preparing us
for the show. So Landra Scandrick pops in and he
was just like combative and I don't really like look
I understand if the first question I asked out of
the box is about Dak or about something about Jerry

(52:43):
Jones or some sort of dramatic question. I asked him
how camp is going. That's about as soft of soft
as softball as you can ask. And he was like, good,
At what point did you say? I you know what
my point was when you complimented them on the shoes.
And then he said, they're just You're like, Doug, nice shirt.

(53:08):
It's just a shirt, you know, just a shirt, just
a shirt. Just what this old He didn't even go
this old thing, this whole thing. I got hundreds of them.
They're just blue shoes. I will say this. I did
say that Sandricks got magnificent teeth. Okay, I do have
to say that, Like, I'm a big teeth guy too.
I like and I appreciate people who are teeth people.

(53:29):
But I didn't want to like. I almost felt like
if I complimented his teeth, then it was I also
don't think when he went the you must have never played,
and I was like, m no, I never played in
the NFL. But you know, I've done a couple of things.
I'm I'm not I'm not not proud of the fact that, uh,
I've hooped a little bit um so, I don't know,
I don't know where that came from, but whatever, I mean,

(53:52):
there was there was definitely a point two or three
minutes into which I probably should have gone like, you know, hey,
do we're good here. I don't know what your issue is,
but I didn't want to draw attention to it. Instead,
I just tried to just try, like you know, like
I'm one of these people where I try and get

(54:13):
the win out of it, right, I try and get
the win out of it. Frankly, I was talking about
this with a really good friend of mine last last
night about one of the reasons I continued at my
previous employer as long as I did was even when
things go went wrong, I still wanted to win the
and I still wanted to leave with good feelings. And
I thought maybe I could turn it into that, and

(54:35):
I just and I don't. There was Yeah, I spring
an idea. Okay, the Netflix question that's on your iPhone?
What even what even what even doing on your I phone?
This will be between me, you and all of the
Doug Gottlieb show listeners. Okay, when an interview is going
off the rails, and you wrap up with you've just

(54:58):
been in the speed zone and you and the interview
after three minutes, so they think it's only like a
three minute interview. You have survived the speeds. But there
was no there was no peppery. It was it was
just very uncomfortable. And usually when you're in person you
get done with practice, there's a comfort level. That one was.
That one was odd, and I didn't I like, I

(55:20):
didn't ask, there was no questions about I look, I
understand that we all he might have just come off
a bad practice, right, you might just have a bad practice.
He might have just gotten railed out by Jason Garrett. Um.
I don't know. Um. I think we just set the
world record for fake smiles during that ten minutes, trying
to hope that everything was good, that everything is positive.
We're keeping it up for having a good time. And

(55:42):
then you tried. You tried. That's all that you can do.
You can I say something else that and I do
have I'll like before you I want let let's Dan
Buyer joined me. Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio from
Cowboys camp. We just had an Orlando Scan trick interview
that didn't go well. It's not one of these like
worthy of retweeting. It just was uncomfortable. He obviously wasn't

(56:03):
in the mood to do it. Um, I do have
a tendency like I usually don't do. I don't believe
in the classic sports radio How are you to start
an interview? I usually asked with a substantive question, because
I don't want to waste his time. You don't waste
my time. And frankly, nobody who's listening driving anywhere in
America on our couple hundred affiliates or on serious XM
satellite channel eight three, actually care about how he's doing.

(56:26):
They want to ask a question. And so that was again,
that's even for me. That's a softer entry way into it,
with like your shoes could have done these old things.
And then I asked, how is camp going? And I
wanted to ask camp this year to camp last year
with your knee, uh, and it just he just could
never never butt into what you're gonna say. The point
I was gonna say was there's only so much that

(56:49):
you can take to try to make it work. And
then you try to stand up for what you believe
in and so then when you started to give it
back a little, apparently that wasn't good. Like you, it
only give him so many. I'm done with it. I'm
moving on. I'm pressing the late, moving it over to
my trash that Fox Sports Radio. But Brett Farves says, obviously,

(57:11):
Aaron being Aaron Rodgers has carried the team for a
long time. That's not going to change. That in and
of itself is not enough. At least it hasn't been,
and it's been pretty good. As good as he is,
I would have thought they would have won more than
one by now. But I don't think if he can
do anything else other than what he's done up to
this point, it's always seems like one piece of the
pustles missing. You don't know what it deals until you

(57:34):
get it. Like Reggie White, you go, oh, that's what
we needed. It remains to be seen what it is
with its draft pick, free agent, letting somebody go coaching change.
I don't know. I think all the pieces, from what
I can tell outside looking at all, the pieces seem
to be in place. They're going to score a lot
of points. Defensively, Dom Caper's I think he's excellent and
making defense opportunistic and may give up a little bit,
but it's it's pretty crafty. Uh, it will be interesting

(57:57):
to see. A bold prediction to me would be the
Rams winning a Super Bowl. Not too bold to say
the Packers. That's not a popular choice, but it's being realistic.
He was asked, Um, he even Rogers doesn't think? Uh,
doesn't get if Rogers doesn't get when this year he'll
have time because he can play until he's forty Why
stop at forty? Fars said, we're tired at forty one,

(58:18):
but left the Packers just two months shy before he
turned thirty nine in a trade with the Jets. He
moves around as well as anybody in the game right now.
That's big the less you're hit. Tom Brady is a
different player, but they'll protect him well enough. He's not
gonna scramble much. But I see no decline in Tom
as he's getting older. It doesn't look like that. I
think Aaron what Aaron is thirty three barring any injury,

(58:39):
and he knows how to protect himself. Six seven years
from now is a long time down the road. But
there's no reason to see he couldn't play at a
high level. I'm not gonna say forty three, forty four.
It's up to the individual. I don't see any decline
in his game unless he doesn't want to play anymore.
So in summation, far as like, I can't believe they've
on anyone, only one, Aaron Rodgers has been carrying the team.

(59:00):
He paints the picture of Dom Caper's defense not as
being good but opportunistic. In other words, they take a
bunch of chances because they're not that good, and I
think everybody knows that. And he thinks Aaron Rodgers can
play as long as he wants because guys don't get
hit anymore, and he's pretty smart and really good, he's
not going to decline. So um, it's pretty similar. Actually

(59:20):
something great great Jennings joining us yesterday and even though
Orlando Scandra kind of brushed off Greg Jennings is being
coming and being on the couch last year. Uh, here's
the great Jenning said about the package yesterday. My frustration
is solely will Upper management and how they go about it,
because I get it. I know they have a system,
but it has not. Yes, did we win a championship, absolutely,

(59:44):
but it's like you're always one step behind in New
England or a Seattle, because these are teams that are
willing to bring up throughout the through the draft. Well,
with the exception of out New England, they kind of
draft terribly at skill positions, but they supplement well, and
they they supplement in a plate in a in a

(01:00:06):
way to where it doesn't affect or impact their team
because they have a culture already said that guys have
to come into and if you either embrace it or
you don't. And Green Bay has that, but they don't
use it. Um. Look, so all everybody's saying kind of
the same thing without saying the same thing. Right, everybody's

(01:00:29):
saying like, hey, look, Ted Thompson, dude, you gotta go
out and add some pieces. You gotta spend some money.
Figure out a way. Um, everybody else goes out and
adds pieces in the offseason. Even the New England Patriots
have have added pieces, and they're not adding pieces as
far as like, I don't know if it's coaching change,
I don't know, if it's one player, I don't know
if it's something. Jenny's kind of saying the same same thing,

(01:00:53):
and so it's going to be interesting to see if
Green Bay adds something or if that's that's what's needed. Like, look,
I I just I hate to be that guy that
points out they should have been in Seattle a couple
of years ago and they would have gone to a
super Bowl and probably could have won the Super Bowl.
Last year, the defense was a disaster and they still

(01:01:14):
went to the NFC Championship Game. My my takeaways are this,
I am right about saying Aaron Rodgers is the best
quarterback in the league, because everybody's saying the thing. I
can't believe it went to only one. It's not on
Aaron Rodgers. He's been awesome. The rest of his team
missing some pieces. We're all talking around the fact that, uh,
something I said on Cowherd show and I hosted that,

(01:01:34):
I'll be hosting that tomorrow. Something I said on this
show time and again is I'm not saying that Tom
Brady is not awesome. He is. But Tom Brady is
the most successful quarterback in the league. Aaron Rodgers is
the best. And there's a little bit of what happened
in Indianapolis with and this is frankly, like Jim Mercy
kind of got crushed for saying this but it was

(01:01:56):
I can't believe we only we only won one title
with Peyton Manning. There's an expression in basketball, and I
think it shared in football, but I can't tell you
that I know, um, but it's a Larry Brown expression.
Kevin O'Neil, who's on the PAC twelve network in a
long time and he was an NBA coach, is also
a college coach. He said he always says, like, hey,

(01:02:17):
winning is hard, right, like winning is really really really
are the perfect example of that is something I've told
you guys the whole time I've done a show, a
solo show for ten years. Best football team I've ever
seen is the New England Patriots when they went undefeated
in the regular season. That was a better team than
the one last year, than the one that beats Seattle. Like, look,

(01:02:39):
they should have lost the Seattle they should have lost
last year. The Atlanta Falcons were the better football team
last year. The Atlanta team Atlanta Falcons food barred that
thing six ways, uh six ways sideways, right, they just
did the three after Arguably the greatest catch I've ever seen,
like Santonio Holmes in the end zone is probably the

(01:03:00):
biggest great catch I can remember. But the Julio Jones
one is the best Super Bowl catch I've ever seen,
and it wasn't the luck of time of David Tyree.
David Tyree a big catch, a game changing catch, but
not Santonio Holmes and not as skillful as what Julio
Jones did. Should have won them the game, and they
had to food bar it in order for it to

(01:03:22):
to go sideways on it. But sometimes the best team
doesn't win, and they were the best team, and obviously
the Giants got to him twice, or offensive line was faulty,
and Brady when you get pressured, is not the same quarterback.
But I I think we're all saying Aaron Rodgers is
the best quarterback. I think everybody's saying Ted Thompson's got

(01:03:43):
to find a way to be inventive. And it does
kind of lend itself to the idea of something that
the Cowboys probably know very well, as the best team
doesn't always win. Levian Bell continues to hold out in
the team seems to be getting frustrated. I'll share with
you how those frustrations have come out. Plus, Jason Garrett's

(01:04:05):
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Fox Sports Radio Live from Dallas Cowboys Camp. If you
hear talking in the background, it's going to be Jason Garrett,
who's conducting a live press conference, So we apologize for
me having a loud voice and the proximity to Jason
Garrett's press conference which has taken place currently. Levyan Bell,

(01:04:51):
course superstar running back, has uh nothing to gain by
holding out and only hurting himself. That's perk Kevin Colbert,
who told the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Bell, who has not
signed his franchise tender, can't be fine for his absence
from training camp because he doesn't have a signed contract.
He isn't permitted to receive a long term contract this
season because the deadline to do so for tag players

(01:05:14):
past July seventeen. Uh Colbert said, quote, my feeling is
there's nothing to be gained by holding out. The situation
won't change. It really can't change from our part on
a long term deal. So it hurts him not to
be here. Hurts him because he's not working with his teammates,
hurts him from conditioning work. He needs to have a
great two thousand and seventeen season, and he's not working
with his teammates to get acclimated to the offense, which

(01:05:36):
is different every year. Former Steelers running back to Angela Williams,
who was Bell's teammate the past two seasons, disagree with
Colbert's take. Wow, that's really wow. He really said that.
Please explain to me how because he gets back, he'll
have the freshest body out there with his skill set.
Hashtag wrong, that's de Angela Williams. Bell recently posted a

(01:05:58):
snapchat of videos himself working out in South Florida. He
consulted with elite footwork specialist Richard Whitford in Miami for
a five day stretch that ended this week. He worked
on his quick twitch foot footwork. Whether he does report
signed his franchise and signs his franchise, whenever he signs

(01:06:18):
his franchise tender, he gets twelve point one two million
this season, the average hundred fifty seven yards from skimming
from scrimmage. That's the third best clip of ever for
a running back. Look, I mean it's it's a you
can make a very easy case that levy On Bell
is the best running back in the league. It doesn't

(01:06:39):
mean that no one's going to disagree with you. I mean,
you know, is he the best between the tackles? I
mean you could Ezeki Elliot's a guy that you could
make the case is better between the tackles. Is he
the best at catching the ball of the backfield. You know,
there's others who you could kind of point to you, like,
all right, you might be a little bit better. He
does everything well. He's also in his fourteen games past

(01:07:00):
two years. And so while the Angela Williams is not wrong, like, look,
do you really need to go to camp. You're just
gonna be tired, just gonna be worn down. The idea
of the offense is changing, like these guys have, but
you do the your he here's I talked to the
NFL GM yesterday and he's like, look, the whole thing

(01:07:21):
is this camp is still useful, Like do you need
to have game action, probably not if you're lean bell,
but they and they'll just they'll just say soft tissue injuries. Right,
If you want to protect yourself from soft tissue injuries,
pulling a hamstring, pulling a groin, the best way to
do so is to get live practice reps and to

(01:07:42):
get into the routine dean of being with your team.
You know, and and and A a key issue. While
all these guys have workout guys and they can't help
you in the off season, it's important to note at
those quick twitch muscles specialists, those individual workout gurus, they're

(01:08:06):
not working for a team for a reason. Sometimes it's
because it's more profitable, dude on your own, but oftentimes
it's because the best in the craft are working in
the field. So I I agree with with the Steelers
gentle manager. We get it, Levyan, you're pisted. You want
to let him turn contract. You think you've earned it,

(01:08:29):
and at some you have plenty of time to get
back and to be in game shape and you won't
be as broken down by camp. But how many guys
we have to see sit out because of holdouts and
then get hurt soft tissue injuries to where like it's
probably not a good path to go on, especially if
you miss four teen games injury suspension last two years.
Dan Bailey is one of the elite kickers in the

(01:08:49):
Nation Football League, but he's coming back from what he
has said was a down year. How do you have
fix things as a kicker? What went wrong last year?
What can go right this year? And what's it like
to watch somebody else kick a game winning field goals?
And your season in your building? I'll ask him. He's
gonna join us next live from Cowboys camp on the
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of lums talking some football. Dan Bailey, who won every
award in college and was wildly considered, if not the best,

(01:09:48):
right there along with probably Justin Tucker the Ravens, the
two best kickers in the National Football League, kind of
to spend some time with this year, fresh off of
of training camp here at the Cowboys camp. Um is
it was that fair like probably going in the last
you're like, you and Justin Tucker are the two consider
the two best in the league, right, Yeah, sure, I
mean Justin's great talent. Obviously had a great year last
year and really every year. So um, shoot, I don't know,

(01:10:11):
I'm allowed you make that call, but yeah, I don't know.
You're two guys to which it's like the it's the
Steph Curry effect. We s't even said this with the Dodgers,
which is like when you missed when you missed one,
when you missed one last year, You're like, you're more
surprised when you miss even a long field goal than
when you make it, Like it it's surprising. But you've
even said and percentage wise, you're coming off your worst
years of pro Have you been able to figure out

(01:10:33):
through film or just through work what went wrong and
what what needs to change? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, just
like any anybody else, you know, at the end of
the year and then through the offseason, you're looking at
the good and the bad. Obviously mrs are bad for
our position, so yeah, you take a look at it,
see what was wrong, what the situation was, you know,
whether the operation was clean or not. Um, yeah, and

(01:10:54):
just try to try to get it figured out. It's
usually nothing crazy. So what was it? What was it?
Because I mean, you know, I mean obviously i'll report
some camp. Are you're kicking the ball really really well? Yeah? No,
I mean camps been going great. Um yeah, just going
back to last year, Um, you know, there were some
longer kicks, so a little bit lower percentage kicks. Um.
Not that that's an excuse, but just tougher, tougher conditions.

(01:11:15):
You know, I had one in New York that I
really I hit as good as I could and it
hit the crossbar. So you know, kicks like that. I mean, yeah,
you're disappointed, but you really did all you could at
the at the time. So you know, it's like it's
like in basketball when you miss a shot around and out,
You're like, I actually shot that ball better than one
that can clang in, right, the one they can you
bank one in. You're like, wait, that actually wasn't a
well shot ball, whereas you can shoot it perfectly and

(01:11:37):
it just doesn't go in because of luck. And that's
what you're saying. I mean, like it is watch did
I I do think one of the things and sometimes
that that spider camera whatever, does it more justice. I
don't think people understand just how precise one how small
the goalposts are, but how precise in terms of clean
everything has to be from the stamp to the hole
to the kick is a very quick and seamless operation. Yeah,

(01:12:00):
I mean, you know, obviously we take a lot of
pride in that, but uh, we always have a conversation.
It comes up every year about you know, if you
look at any other sport, you know, in basketball you
have an alley you or you know in in baseball
you gotta double play or anything like that that involves
multiple people doing something at a pretty rapid rate. And
you know, we were shooting for snap hold to kick

(01:12:20):
in one point three seconds or around there at one
point to five. So you know, if you look at
other sports, there's not too many things where involves three
people and one point three seconds and it has to
be precision every time. So we take some pride in that,
and uh yeah, there's a lot going on, but you know,
those guys are dialed in on their job and makes
my job a lot easier. Dan Bailey Johnny is kicker
for the Dallas Cowboys. Doug gotlipshield Fox Sports Trading Life

(01:12:42):
from Cowboys Camp. Um okay, so, uh we watch at
home and like, again, you're just amazed by the precision,
but I want to know kind of routine. So you
trot out there and you mentioned, like, look anybody once
you hit forty and in NFL kickers, you guys are incredible,
Like the cent rates are incredible. How much has changed

(01:13:03):
since the P A T was moved back? Because from
a fan side, like, I think that's the greatest rule
change in NFL history because it it went from giving
away a point like it was a ninety nine point
nine percent shot, you guys will never miss that to
now there's a little bit of question to it's like
nine seven percent to ninety four depending on the team whatever.
It's a little bit of question to it. From your perspective, Uh,

(01:13:24):
what do you think of that rule change now? A
couple of years in? Yeah, I mean initially I was
a little Uh I was. I wasn't that much of
a fan of it, obviously, just because nobody likes changed
to an extent, but uh, um, yeah, I think it's
I think it's good, you know, coming from my perspective,
it's really more of a mental challenge. But because like
you said, um, you know before it's not like you

(01:13:46):
were going through the motions. But to an extent, you
just go out there and I mean you just kick
it straight. It's ten yards twenty yards away, and it
is pretty much a give me. But now you know,
it's a little bit more of a challenge, especially you
get later in the year, it gets colder, playing up
in the northeast, stir wherever there might be a little
bit of weather, you know, all that stuff factors into it,
and all of a sudden, a thirty three yard field goal.
Yeah it's short, but um, you know, it's a little

(01:14:08):
bit more of a challenge. And and and then the
middle side of it is you can have kicks worth
three points that are shorter than that. So you have
to understand that all the points are important. It doesn't
matter whether whether it's worth one or an extra point
or uh three. With a field goal, you just have
to go out there and do the same thing every time.
Dan Bailey joining us in the dugoutlet you all right,
So so they you you're going you're kicking a field goal. Okay,

(01:14:29):
it's a forty five yarder. What what is the routine
you're trying on in the field, What is the mental routine?
What's actually going on upstairs? Yeah? So, um, you know,
mostly anytime we get past the fifty, I'm I'm kind
of I'm locking in. I'm paying attention to the game
down a distance, where we're at, how much time, time outs,
all that stuff, and uh, just trying to get a
good feel for for where we're at and and trying

(01:14:51):
to just stay in the game and keep your mind
off of not necessarily or keep your mind off of
the pressure of the situation. And uh so how do
you do how but how do you do that? Like
that sounds really great, but like how do you you know?
I mean, you got a game winning kick and uh
and based upon your percentage, people are like money in
the bank, money in the bank because he's able to Like,

(01:15:11):
how do you actually do that? Yeah? I mean a
lot of it is just taking the pressure off yourself. Um,
like I said, just keeping your mind going with something else.
You know, where we're out on the field, where what
hash are we on? You know, what's the wind doing?
What am I gonna need to know before I get
out there? So that way when you get out there, Um,
you already know what's going on, you know where the

(01:15:32):
winds coming from, you know what the weather, what the
weather is, You've you've already done the operation on the sideline,
you know, had some kicks in the net and stuff
like that, and just go out there and execute. Um,
what's it like to be on the sideline and watch
somebody else. I don't want to say live your dream, um,
but you know, any anybody's dream is obviously to go
to Super Bowl when or win a game winning kick
in the Super Bowl. But you're playing the Packers and

(01:15:55):
with it just a spectacular throw and catch, the Packers
get a game winning field goal to beat you in
your place. But as a great kicker and somebody who
wants that pressure, what's it like to see somebody else
in your season that way? It's not good. It's not good. Um.
Obviously you know Mason, me and him are are good buddies,
and you know I'm happy for him personally, but definitely
in that situation. Um, you know, I wouldn't say I

(01:16:18):
want him to miss, but I don't. I don't want
him to make it. So it's not it's nothing personal.
It's just more of a collective team saying I would
rather have our team win than uh than his. And
of course, you know, some people point to Jason Garrett
and spiking the football thirty five second, leaving too much
time kind of on the clock, right like that's and
that's what led to having enough time to kick that
field goal. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you go

(01:16:41):
back and do that, you know a hundred times, you
can probably do it a hundred different ways, And it's
just one of those things in the moment, in the situation,
you manage the situation as best you can and give
your team a chance. I thought we did that, you know,
we we tied it up there at the end, and
you know, credit to you know, Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
that's that's a one in a million throw right there.
I mean, I don't know if that too many other

(01:17:01):
guys in the league can do that. And um, obviously
a good kick by Mason. So yeah, it hurts, but uh,
you know, if it was flipped around, yeah, absolutely, I'd
love to be in that situation and uh and have
us going to the n FC Championship. Truth be told,
What's what's the furthest year I kick one from uh
back at Valley ranch, you know it would get Uh,
we didn't get a little breeze out there. We hit

(01:17:22):
from seventy a few times. Um, but I don't really,
I don't. I don't back it up too much too
too often. I just I'd rather just try to stay
as consistent. Right, You're more you're more about accuracy right
than you are about just trying to kind of booming
leg thing right. And it's it feels a little bit
like free throw shooting or whatever, to where it's better
to see it go through the goal post than it

(01:17:42):
is to show you into to one in five it,
you know, from seventy yards out. It's that fair comparison. Absolutely, Yeah,
Dan Bailey, Jonius and the Doug Gotlicchell. I'll ask the
cool one of the questions that Orlando Scandrick didn't want
to answer. Um, does it feel any different this year?
Like you've been this is you're not your first rodeo,
You're a vet. You've been through the camps where teams
have done well, where teams have done poorly. Uh, does

(01:18:03):
this year feel different anyway from previous ones? Uh? It
definitely feels it feels different. Yeah, I mean last year,
you know we were coming off a pretty bad year
four and twelve, and I mean, you know, the personal
expectation was always high, but you know, you just you're
you're really trying to change your identity from the year
before because you don't want to be you don't want
to be that four and twelve team. You want to

(01:18:24):
be something better. So, um, you know now that we
had some success last year, U, I'm sure absolutely, the
the expectation within the locker room is high. And you know,
we've got we've got Dak and Zeke and all these
young guys that are playing at a really high level,
which is exciting. Um. You know, when I first got
here was very much a veteran locker room. Now we're
really young, so it's it's fun to have that youth

(01:18:45):
in there. I mean not that I'm old, but but
it's fun to have that youth in there and kind
of a different energy and and a lot more excitement.
Last thing, we got about a minute left. You're you're
also very good golfer, and I'm just wondering for the
average duffer out there, Uh, what's harder like a put
to win your buddy's money on a Sunday or a
field goal to win a game for you. For me,

(01:19:05):
it would have to it would have to be uh
put for sure to me, that can't you use the
same process of like tuning everything out like you're just
telling about how like I don't know, you just kind
of eliminate pressure. You go out there, you could a
field goal like all of us are like that. I'd
be freaking out. Can't you just use the same process
with the putters, you would think? So? Yeah, I wish
it was that easy because I'd feel i'd have a
few more bucks in the pocket on the golf course.
But yeah, no, I mean I'm much more comfortable on

(01:19:27):
the football field than I am on the greens, even
though you know I can I can swing it pretty
good here and there. But um yeah, I'd rather have
the pressure of the of the NFL game than a
that'll play all right. No, not high expectation, but we
expect you to make every field goal this year for
Dallas cowpus. That's it. That's that's pretty much it. We
expect to make everyone and if you don't, even if
it's a crossfire, even if you get a gust from
the gods at the very last second. Uh that that's

(01:19:49):
on you. That's on your process, not on the result.
Dan Bailey, of course, we kid. We appreciate you joining
us and without any question, would not be the worst
interview of the day. Here live from from Cowboys camp.
We're busting. We're just busting chops from Orlando Skendrick. Um.
If you watch the game last night? Do you watch
the game last night? All right? If you watch the
game last night, something you should know about Deshaun Watson
and as people are putting him in as a future

(01:20:10):
Hall of Famer, we'll pump the brakes next in the
doug out lip show. Up, what up? It's a dug
out leave show, Fox Sports Radio. All right, so we're
one in two right, one and one one one and
one one win, one one loss. Orlando Skendrick. Dan Bailey
joined us earlier on the show. If you go back

(01:20:31):
on our all right there, Ramos, what's going on with
the music kind of going up and going down? You
like to fill the spaces almost drinking? No, no, no
bitterness at all. And Ramo's not getting invited out to
ox Ros Cowboys all he's he's a Rams guy and
the Rams play the Cowboys at the l A Coliseum

(01:20:52):
This weekend on Saturday. You going, You're going, Ramos, No,
I will not make it. I have soccer Initial Soccer
Day on Saturday. That's good. Initial initial Soccer Day, Yes,
where all the teams get together and they you pick,
you know, you find out what team your kids are on.
Stuff like that. It's like the draft, ye kind of yea.
Is it a snake draft or is this streak anyway?

(01:21:14):
I'll take Sarah first, Yes, I'll take I'll take somebody
named Sarah. Are there still girls named Sarah? Daughter Sarah? Oh,
you have a sick dad? You went Biblical? That's nice. Now,
are there Jennifers anymore? Does anybody go Jennifer? They they
just don't. They don't go. Uh. Everybody has a different
what's the what's the most two thousand seventeen name you've
ever coached before? Like, I've I've heard of I've heard

(01:21:36):
of kid's name obviously Apple, I've heard of Jemima. I
swear there's I have a friend who uh has kids
in preschool and there's a there's a daughter named Jemima
in there. What's the what's the what's the most unique
name that you have coached? John Ramas Uh while we
caught her z. But her name was Zi's a. It's

(01:21:59):
a lottle. I never said her name because it was
so hard to say. I just called her her name.
You call her, I'm gonna call you Zeke. Uh go ahead.
I have a I have a friend who named her
daughter Seattle Seattle. I mean, like, dude, don't laugh. You
like Seattle. You like to say that's as much as anybody.

(01:22:20):
Minneapolis is a great city. I'm not naming my kid Minneapolis.
Um okay, Uh look, we went with Harper Grace and
Hayes Harper Grace and heyes, actually that's his middle name.
Uh Sam Samuel is his first name. Tulsa did not
do Tulsa. We not do drum Right. We did not
do Oak Grove. We did not do Durant Durant, Oklahoma.

(01:22:43):
Do Rent, Oklahoma. It's not Durant Durant. We didn't do Yale.
But like, look, I mean, sometimes their family names are
sometimes the city you met in. You know, maybe sleeps
in Seattle might have been their favorite movie. Here's my
general naming principles. Okay, take Bob and take Wolf King
and meet somewhere in the middle, right Wolf King, But

(01:23:04):
I do like the fact that my boy John John
rob Most went biblical and went Sarah. Are all your
kids named biblical names? Uh? Well? Actually, Sarah is named
after try Sarah Tops from the movie Land Before Time.
I'm not yet c E r A for Sarah for
try Sarah Tops. And Lucas is named after George Lucas

(01:23:24):
from Star Wars because because you're a big Star Wars.
That's right, you did not. You chose not to name
your kid Yoda because when they come out, because I
gotta point out, with the exception of being green, most
kids come out looking like Yoda, and you want them eventually,
you know, be strong with the forest like Luke right,
or maybe have a little Hans Solos. You didn't. You
didn't think of Han like Han would have been a
money name. Yeah, No, I wanted Lucas. So John actually

(01:23:49):
made out with his wife listening to Jefferson Starshist Sarah
and that's why they named their first daughter Sarah. M
m m hmm. Interesting interesting, interesting interesting. You know what
else is interesting? Did you guys watch preseason football last night?
I know, John, you have kids at home, uh Ryan music,

(01:24:12):
you went home or you went to your girl's house
living in sin thing that where you stayed last night?
That's correct. Uh did you watch the preseason game? How
much of it? About the first half? I watched the
entire thing. I watched. I'm I mean, my kids aren't
in town. My wife I picked them up, So I'll
admit I watch the entire thing. I'm not bragging. That's
actually that's one of those things I would only divulge

(01:24:33):
to you guys, but I'm not really proud of it.
You know, I didn't have Yeah, I didn't have anything.
I didn't have anything else to do. Last night. I
sat there, I was like, I'm watching football. I have
not watched an entire game. And anyway, uh uh and
uh just see you know, like, do you know who
the backup? I think he's the third you know, the
third ring quarterback of the of the Carolina Panthers is

(01:24:54):
Joe Webb. Joe Webb remember from Minnesota Vikings fame. He
started when Brett he was the quarterback. The replaced Brett
Far when Brett Far finally got hurt and this the
start streak ended. That was Joe Webb, Joeb Derek Anderson
Still how long has Derrick Anderson been a backup quarterback,
and I was like, that's right, Derrick Anderson still there, Oregan,
stay still collecting checks. I got a great Derrick Anderson
story for you. A friend of mine coached him in

(01:25:16):
the NFL, and he's like, if Derek Anderson is a
spot starter and you you watch, he'll never be named
the starter until Thursday. Because if you tell him on
a Monday he's a starter, he's just a nervous wreck
and he's terrible that weekend. So you tell him at
the last possible moment, that's actually when it's pretty good.
What did you just tell him on the way out
of the tunnel? Did you starting? They did that last year, remember,

(01:25:40):
And that's why they remember because Cam got ed. That's
why they did it. Because if you tell and he
was terrible, it wasn't. It wasn't his fault, right, didn't
hit him in the numbers and it popped him out
of this way. It was five yards away, and he
threw it about eighty miles, so that he was jack
whatever me to you right now, if you threw it

(01:26:01):
for all of your might at me. That's what Derrick
Anderson and the perfect example of like Joeb was good
last night? Right, Derek was good last night? You did
you watch? I watched, I watched some of Watson and
then that halftime. I doubt I have thought that he
was all right. But he needs to realize that if
he would play in an NFL game, he would get killed.
There was a throw that he overthrew a guy rolling

(01:26:22):
out to the right. You gotta protect like the one
to the left. War was right around when he overthrew
in in the end zone. No, this was what Actually
they were in their own territory. But now I saw
was touched on. Yeah. I even thought of his touchdown run.
It looked like if like Earl Thomas looked on the line,
he would have been his head would have got taken. Okay,
So I want it was all to repeat after me. Okay,

(01:26:44):
all all Gramos buyer music. I want you to repeat
after me. And if you're listening at home, you'll stow
the I Heart Act lists. Know one of our hundreds
of affiliates, including in Texas wearing Texas. These guys out
of Texas listening to us. Once you pat me ready, Okay,
preseason means nothing. The preseason means nothing. The preseason means nothing.

(01:27:05):
The preseason means nothing. One more time, the preseason means nothing.
Pason right, Okay, So as long as we operate under that,
because I know that we like to believe. I saw this,
Watson can start right now, and Houston start him right away.
He's ready. Like how many times have we seen it

(01:27:26):
and said it and it hasn't worked. It doesn't mean it.
It hasn't always worked. Hey, but if you actually watched
last night, like Tom Savage was good too, going against
the first team defense from the Carolina Panthers as opposed
the seconds and the thirds. Um, But let's not take
away from whatever all the good you saw from Deshaun Watson.

(01:27:49):
It's just the preseason. Achille Smith had good preseason games.
He did go back and look, um, I think you
know people id I was listening earlier today and uh,
Clay Travis was just crushing. It was just absolutely crushing.

(01:28:09):
Um the Jacksonville Jaguars and their hopes to finally make it,
you know, to the playoffs. And he was like, look,
my whole thing is you have you know what you
don't have at quarterback, right, So tank this year and
you'll be fine in years to come. Right, and you
can go and you can go and get a legit
quarterback like that. That was his take, which I would now, look,

(01:28:33):
I don't think Blake Bortles is great, but I also
think the Carolina pants arafted well for long enough. They
have a talent enough defense. You bring in Leonard four Nette,
you seem to. You went out and signed some big
name free agents and Bortles is not terrible. But but
the big point is, like Blake Bortles was great in
the preseason right away, and it caused people, if you

(01:28:53):
remember back Jacksonville wanted to red shirt him, not play
him the entire season. The reason they played him was
because he was so good in the preseason that they
fooled themselves into thinking he was ready in year one,
and he was not ready in year one. And so
back to the premise of it is the preseason means nothing.
Don't allow it to so shade you into the You
gotta play right now. It's just a preseason game. And

(01:29:18):
most of those guys won't be on NFL teams. And
remember this year, unlike previous years, there are ninety guys
on the roster all the way up until final cuts.
There's no mid training camp cut down to seventy five guys.
Before they get to the fifty three, there's ninety and
so there's a good chance if you're in in the
second half of a game, you're going against seventy through

(01:29:39):
ninety on the defensive side of the ball, and seventy
through ninety are gonna be watching just as many NFL
games this year as you and I are. Mark Mark
Schlaireth joins us up coming next. He's a three time
Super Bowl champion. Huh oh, my bad Marc Laires not
joining us. You'll hear from Mark schlaire as he knows
exactly how to make to Broncos a Super Bowl contender.

(01:30:03):
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check out true car dot com. Today, Doug Otlib show
Fox Sports Radio Live from Dallas, Cabo on his camp.
How about damn Cowboys? Um, I actually haven't given you
my take on the Cowboys. I want to do so. Actually,
right now, before we kind of get into a game,
we call what did the fox say? It's I have

(01:30:45):
said this um before, but I think it's really important
to reiterate when you're raising kids. When you're raising kids,
what's the toughest age to raise kids? When they're when
they're when their babies? Um, you know, I'll ask you, uh, Dan,

(01:31:06):
Dan Buyer, you thought three. We had this discussion, but
a little bit before you you thought three, I would have.
I would. I'm surprised because, um, I always thought I
always thought that people who didn't have kids thought it
was two because it's the terrible twos, right. I'm sure
you've heard of the Terrible twos before, haven't you? Okay, So, um,

(01:31:28):
I look at the Terrible twos and I compare the
Terrible twos to a rookie starting quarterback because if I,
if I sold you like, what's the toughest what what's
the hardest thing to have in the NFL and be successful,
especially if it's a backup. But a rookie starting quarterback,

(01:31:51):
if I said that, would you say that sounds about
right right? Like a rookie starting quarterback is really really
hard to have and see success with in the NFL.
The perfect example is as good as Dak Prescott was
last year, he didn't even want a playoff game. There's
never been a rookie quarterback to win a Super I
don't believe, like even Tom Brady when he wanted was
more based on their defensive He was the second year quarterback,

(01:32:11):
not his rookie year quarterback. But if I were to
tell you that the toughest one toughest kind of quarterback
to have toughest is a a rookie starting quarterback, is
that fair? So I I look at it like this,
A rookie starting quarterback is a lot like um. People
who raise kids, you say, wow, or who don't have kids,
what's the toughest age to raise kids? Two year olds,

(01:32:35):
terrible twos? When the truth is that a three year
old in many ways is tougher. And I'll tell you why. Um. First,
is the level of expectation that's really really important. You'd
have low expectations of a two year old. You're expecting
fits right there. You're expecting them not to be potty trained,

(01:32:57):
they're not going to preschool yet. There are going to
have meltdowns, and you're gonna write it off to these two, right. Um.
They they've learned to walk, they've learned to talk, but
they're not that's skillful at it. Like when they so
when they hurt themselves, you still feel sympathy for them.
When they get to three, many of them still aren't

(01:33:21):
putty training. They're still just three years old. I mean
they're still knee high, right, they're they're more mentally emotionally developed,
but there's still just three and they're still your baby.
And yet because no one mentioned to you when you
were first having kids, Hey, three years old is many
ways is tougher than two years old. Like when they're three,

(01:33:45):
you have greater expectations of them. They go from crib
to big boy or big girl bed. Oftentimes they start preschool.
A lot of times, like once when they're two and
into their three, you cut down. You cut down off
a nap. And anybody who's ever lived had being a nap,
you know, you cut off that nap and then you
become cranky. I mean that's really the difference between being
a child and being an adult is when you're an adult,

(01:34:08):
you would never turn down a nap. No adult in
the world would ever go like, hey, you feel like
a nap? Like no, thanks, Oh, that doesn't happen. Good, right,
Like I've said this all the time, like adults will
actually order vegetables off the menu. Adults all point in
words where his kids point outwards. It is always somebody
else's fault more than anything. Adults will never turn down
a nap. That's how you know if you're an adult. Um.

(01:34:29):
But when you're three, there's no more napping, no more
midday nap, no more siesta unless like you're in Spain
or whatever. Um. And so once they get to they
call it the witching hour, like six seven o'clock a night.
Kids are terrorists, right, I mean they're worse than al QuAIA. Um.
They they're still moving from big boy bed to big
girl bed. And once they're in a bed, now they're

(01:34:51):
up in their mobile and they're in your room at
all hours of the night, early in the morning. Right,
you gotta put a lock on the door. Sometimes people
lock their kids in their room when they get to
that because they and they're like scratching and clawing like
an animal to get out of there. Like no, this
is really what's best for you. Raising a three year
old in many ways because of your expectations, is harder
than raising a two year old. It's a lot like
a second year quarterback. Dak Prescott had a great first year,

(01:35:13):
but they didn'tive him the whole playbook and there was
no expectations for him. He was just holding the thing together.
For Tony Romo. Now he might not have he might
not have his running back for the start of the season.
He does have greater expectations. Remember Doug Free retired at
right tackle. So the moving little Collins who's struggling with
the move from guard to tackle, they're gonna have basically

(01:35:33):
two to new offensive and and so they now they have,
they're still trying to find a new left guard. I'm
not saying that there's not rightful expectations of the Cowboys,
but also the Cowboys play a first place schedule. Have
you seen how they opened the season the open season
against the Giants, WHI always give them. Then they go

(01:35:53):
to Denver take on the Broncos. Your offensive line better
be ready when you're on when you're taken on the
Denver Broncos at home on the seventeen that that defense
is amazing in altitude on the road. I don't care.
If the Denver hasn't figured out their quarterback situation, their
defense is sick. Then you go to Arizona, take on
the Cardinals, a place where it's like the Cowboys home

(01:36:14):
away from home, but it's still the Cardinals on the
road two of their first three on the road. Then
home to the Rams, who I don't know if they
have an offense for their defensive line pretty good, they
can shorten the game. Packers at home. Team that eliminates
you from the playoffs, Like if you look at their
schedule this year, out of their division, they go to Denver,
it's a playoff team. They go to Atlanta, team that
went to the Super Bowl and uh and was the

(01:36:37):
NFCS representative. They go to the Raiders, who late late
in the year Raiders went to the playoffs, and the
Raiders expect tastes are to be even better like those
are there out of out of division road games, their
schedule is a beast. The expectations are higher, the schedule
is more difficult. You're giving Dak Prescott more of the playbook,

(01:37:03):
just like you're putting him from a crib to a
big boy bet and expecting him to to be great
and end of the day, Dak Prescott has only started
seventeen games. Like he he has experienced, but not that
much experience. And I think oftentimes a second year quarterback
is harder to raise or to to to under to

(01:37:26):
go through than a first year quarterback. I don't know
if that makes sense to you, guys. And winning cures everything,
because it was evident last year. Think of the drama
that if if with the Dallas combos, if there was
any other quarterback quandary or somewhat you know, discussion on
who should start. When you're winning, it makes the decision

(01:37:48):
a little bit. Actually, it makes it a lot easier,
and any distraction that could pop up, it's actually pushed
aside because you're winning. Totally, I still thought Romo was
the right guy. I thought Romo of them a better
chance to win a Super Bowl. And if you go
back and watch that game against Green Bay, remember it's
it was a terrible green Bay defense. Matt Ryan completely
shredded it and he struggled early against it some because

(01:38:10):
he was tight. I know, the numbers end up three
touchdowns win reception. He bounced back and had a good
second uh second half um against against Green Bay, but
he was not great early and Green Bay's defense was
terrible at the end of the year. Let's play what
did the Fox say? And now the Fox say? So
every day in the Dug Out Leap Show, we try
and play for you a portion of a show earlier

(01:38:32):
today on Fox Sports, Fox Sports Radio, whether it's Clay Travis,
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or Dan Patrick or Colin Cowherd. This comes from the Undisputed,
which is Shannon Sharp, Skip Bayless, Joy Taylor, And in
this particular case, Fox Sports NFL analysts and three times
Super Bowl champion Mark Slayreth offered up his fix to

(01:38:56):
the Denver Broncos talented quarterbacks. You know how they play.
They played from the net. Now their default mechanism when
things go awry is to use athleticism, and the untalented
guys oftentimes play from the neck up, and that's where
you have to play the quarterback position at you look
at Trevor Simmon, he's far more advanced. Paston Lynch is
coming from a system where they had a card on
the sideline. You know, it had a fire truck, a dog,

(01:39:18):
and a chicken on, you know, and we're gonna run
fire dog chicken. That's what we're running right now. She
never had a call play. You played from the shotgun
the entire time, and talking to the coaching staff, they're
sitting there saying, hey, listen, Paxton, great athlete, unbelievable potential,
but after that first read, he's lost. He doesn't know
where to go with the football, and that's a big problem.
Trevor doesn't have that problem, not as talented, understands the offense.

(01:39:41):
But that's where they sit right now, and I think
they're looking at themselves, going, we have a chance to
win this division. If you took any other quarterback in
that division, whether it was Alex Smith, Derek Carr, whether
it was Philip Rivers, and put it on the Denver
Broker Bowl team, they beat the Patriots. Um, they beat
the Patriots, is what you from Shannon Sharp like, you

(01:40:02):
can't mush two guys together. But if you could mush
the arm town and athletic ability of Paxston Lynch with
the brain of Trevor Simeon, who's actually a really good
athlete but doesn't play like a really good athlete, you
would have and he has a very very good arm,
but sometimes doesn't use it. You would have a you
would have a tremendous quarter It leads me to believe
that while it might while just because John always says

(01:40:24):
it's fake news, it doesn't it doesn't feel like fake
news that they're thinking about bringing in another quarterback. Remember
they were They were talked about in the in the
Tony Romo sweep sticks. Uh there they there was. You
go back to last year and they wanted to bring
in Colin Kaepernick. And now there's talking them going out
and getting a J. McCarron from the Cincinnati Bengals. The

(01:40:47):
the interesting thing about the Broncos is this, they won
a Super Bowl without a quarterback. Right. I know that
Peyton Manning was technically the starting quarterback. He was terrible.
It's it's it's sacrilege to say so in open discussion,
but I'm gonna say it. He threw nine touchdowns, seventeen interceptions,
and his arm was completely shot. He was awful in

(01:41:08):
the Super Bowl. Go back and watch. Remember they had
a kick return touchdown. The defense completely dominated the game.
He couldn't he he had to anticipatory, He had to
anticipate throws that were gonna be open because his brain
was great, but his arm was awful. It just was bad.
I mean, he limped his way to the finish line.

(01:41:29):
It kind of shows you where Trevor Simeon actually is
that as as much as he struggled at times last year,
he couldn't get them over the over the threshold. Remember
got hurt last year as well. Um because technically he
was better. He was a lot better than Peyton Manning
in his last year. And so the thinking in Denver
is if we can just be a little bit better.

(01:41:51):
Remember there, they didn't even have a seven heard and
yard rusher last year. Davante Booker was like six D
and twelve yards c J Anderson only four. They couldn't
run it, they could throw it, and their defense was good,
but not what it was the year before. Fascinating to
see what the what the Broncos do they there? You know,
their offensive line was an epic and complete disaster last year.

(01:42:12):
Some of it was an injury, it was was injury problems.
But I don't think it's as much fake news as
John Elway is leading to you believe that if if
if Mark Layrat is saying that Paxson Lynch can't read
a defense, and we know what Trevor simeons ceiling is.
He's fine, He's probably gonna be a really good backup

(01:42:32):
for a long time, right, He's he might as well
be Trevor. Trevor McCown. It feels like a McCown brother.
Then it's not crazy to think they should reach out
and get it fixed the quarterback situation. Yes, Ryan Music,
which of the teams since last season? Both teams that
were in the Super Bowl the previous year, the Panthers
and the Broncos both had down years. The Panthers were

(01:42:54):
much worse than the Broncos. But which of those two
themes do you think this year has the best chance
to get back to where they once were a few
seasons ago? Because with the Panthers last year, it kind
of just seemed like the season snowballed away from them,
like they just got off to a rough start. Remember
they had they had a terrible start two years ago
Too'm almost and they had an easy schedule last year

(01:43:17):
that two years ago, so three years ago they had
got off to an awful start. Cam had they came
out in the accident and then he came back and
they made the run at the end of the season
to make the playoffs. Think below five, right, is that
that year? Somewhere there were seven eight and one that
I think that year or around where they beat Arizona?
Was that the year? Am I thinking or am I
going to? Well? I think we're thinking the same thing.

(01:43:39):
Which team is more likely? I think Denver is more likely.
The differences. Denver's in a better division, They're both in
good divisions. I think Tampa's on the way up. Remember,
Denver also lost the guy that you talked about so
highly of on Monday in Wade Phillips. Okay, so now
you're bringing in a whole new coaching staff with Vance
Joseph Mike McCoy now taking over the offense. So there's

(01:44:00):
some change there. Denver interior wise, and both the offensive
and defensive line, we're not good. We talk about Von
Miller all you want. Teams were able to run it
at them. Carolina on the flip side, for as good
as Denver secondary is, Carolina early doesn't have one with
just Norman gone Um. But but you know, again, Luke,
if Luke Kickley is healthy, they're really good upfront. Um,

(01:44:22):
I'd go with Denver to weigh in. I just what
about Denver's offense excites you at all. I think they
did address the offensive line. Remember last year they tried
to bring in Russell Locoon for a year that didn't
work out. I mentioned Ronald Leary earlier. Um, if you
could get C. J. Anderson, who was the only bright
spot in that Super Bowl offensively, for Denver to to

(01:44:45):
get going. And you've got Jamal Charles there now. And
I know Davante Bookers had some health issues, but I
do think that they're Denver is set up better for
the talent that they have got at their different spots.
On defense, It'll just be interesting to see how Vans
Joseph and his defense translates from what they did underweight. Well, look,
I'll tell you the key to Denver, and I don't

(01:45:07):
like playing the schedule game. But the schedule game, if
they can't get off to a hot start, and I
know they play good teams. They open with Rams at home,
then they have the Cowboys at home. They go to Buffalo,
But they go to Buffalo early in the year and
Buffalo hasn't been They have the longest stretch of not
being in the playoffs of any team in the NFL.
I don't bring only bring that up because like again

(01:45:27):
you're seeing your your team that that wants a challenge
for Super Bowl. You can go in there and match
them early and take away their thunder very early season.
Then you have Oakland at home and the Giants at home.
They have a weird schedule and that four of their
first five games are all at home, and then after
that they have five of seven. Matter of fact, they
have seven of nine on the road. And Denver a

(01:45:52):
team that is built to play in altitude, built to play,
you know, built to get a lead and to play
to that defense. I don't see it from Denver. I
just I don't see the offense. Um, I don't see
the running game. And I'm I'm with Slayer though, Like
they don't have a you don't have a quarterback, what
do we learn? Like, you can only do so much.
I know they won a Super Bowl without the arm

(01:46:12):
of a quarterback, but they had the brain of a
quarterback and the defense was so much better. And remember
back then the Chargers were a disaster. Even though the
Chargers beat them that year, Uh, the nobody's ever believed
in the Chiefs, but that was I think that was
a down year for the Chiefs and the Oakland Raiders
were bad back then. Now the Raiders are up, the
Chiefs are loaded, and I think the Chargers are an

(01:46:36):
improved team. They lost a bunch of games they should
have won. I'm not as big a buyer special because
of that schedule. It is crazy the run they have
of road games where it's seven of ten games on
the road after four the first five at home. Do
we finally have an answer about Ezekiel Elliott's possible suspension?
Find after we find out what's trended. Doug Galling Show,

(01:47:04):
Fox Sports Radio Live from Dallas Cowboys Camp. It's in Oxnard, California, Oxyar.
It's cool place man kind of underrated, under the radar
type of spot where you can go to the beach.
It's not crazy expensive. You can stay up in Ventura.
It's like halfway in between l A and Santa Barbara.
Santa Barbara is heavenly, although Santa Barbara is crazy expensive.

(01:47:25):
Like get the Montecito. Uh, it's like one of the
most expensive places on Earth, but a beautiful place. So
you get some of the eucalyptus trees and some of
that sea air and temperate climate of Santa Barbara, and
not the hustle and bustle l a like I have
an underrated spot. It's literally cool, right, yes, no it is.

(01:47:46):
It's uh that's stand buyer by the way. You'll be
here all week. Try the veal. Let's get to the press,
the press byre alright, doug hey, let's let's start out
at Cowboy camp. Okay, if you missed it earlier, we
had Orlando Scandrick on take me through the camp. So

(01:48:07):
far it's been going good. You know, it's been an
uphill battle. I'm grinding, trying to get better, trying to
be the best I can for this team. Oh come on,
you give me the all I'm trying to. Are we
getting better one in the game at a time, when
practice at a time? I mean, how you can't get
better two games at a time? You going to play
one at a time? I I did point of the interview.
It actually was he was giving me the cliche answer

(01:48:31):
and a right he was going one practice of time,
one game at a time. Like I get that, you're
technically correct, but like, come on, man, yeah, like really
that that that's actually as good, that was as good
as it got. At least he was engaged in that
in those those answer you should have you should earn
a medal for that. For I give you a lot
of credit. You tried to keep that vote afloat um,

(01:48:53):
We'll see all the Cowboys float with or without Ezekiel Elliott.
Because there's a report from the NFL Network that says
a decision on Elliott's status, whether he would face his
suspension or not, could come down as soon as Friday.
That from Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network could come
down as soon as Friday. So what we're all saying
is Chris Carter does have good sources, like he said

(01:49:14):
in the next couple of days, and it seems to
come down on Friday. And by the way, there wouldn't
be news on an Ezeki Elliott suspension unless he was
getting suspended like this. These is these are deductions that
I'm making in my mind, right, like the things I say,
like nobody gets nobody goes and get a second opinion
if it's good news. Right, there's no announcement on a
suspension unless there's a suspension. And by the way the

(01:49:36):
Cowboys have picked up extra backs for uh for the preseason.
So I mean like there has to be a reason
that the Dallas Cowboys have loaded up on on running backs.
I remember they have Ronnie Hillman Darren McFadden to go
along with Alfred Morris Um. So the the guests would

(01:49:57):
be that you want to take away some of those
practice reps from Darren McFadden because he breaks down, breaks
down like a jaguar. You know, I wouldn't know. I
don't know a jaguar. Ever, the same thing John Romos
does and he can attest to that. Hey, an update
from Golf PGA Championship. We are on Grand Slam watch

(01:50:18):
this weekend, Doug, I don't know you're talking about career
Grand Slam. Yes. For for Jordan's speech, he is at
plus one, five shots back of the lead right now
after one round of play, at least for Jordan's spee.
At the pg Championship players still on the course. But
Thorburne Olsen right now the leader at four under par.
But when you asked me last night, did I watched
the preseason game between the Texans at Panthers. I was

(01:50:41):
doing a lot alive from the PJA Championship on the
Golf Channel, and all week long it's been speech speed
and spee and Jordan is now five back. Rory macwill
by the way, three shots back of the lead. Yeah,
and Rory was was the favorite at the course, and
I think you're seeing why does set up a little
bit better to his game as good as he was.

(01:51:02):
Did you see the start for Bubba Watson? Um, I
saw a lot of not red numbers, they were black numbers.
Bubba starts out uh bogey par bogey bogey on his
first three holes. Um. He ended up with nine bogies
on the day. That is Um, that's a good way

(01:51:25):
to fire up that jet on a Friday afternoon and
get yourself home. I don't think that Bubba is gonna
make it to the weekend. USA Today says that NBA
owners are expected to approve guidelines that will penalize teams
for resting players in the season. Those penalties, DOUG, will
be approved by owners in September. The report, though doesn't
say what those penalties are, but likely that teams will

(01:51:47):
face penalties if they rest their good guys. Yeah. I
would say the first penalty will be a lot like Um,
do you remember when Dr Evil scolded Mini Me in
Austin Powers Too? Don't you ever do that again? Mini Me? Right,
think that's gonna be the that's gonna be the first punishment. Right,
It's gonna be really hard to try. I know they're
gonna try really hard. Like look there, and if you

(01:52:08):
if you read some of what's coming out, it's a
reaction to the fact that the NBA's partners, Turner ESPN,
paid all this money and now they're not getting return
their investment. It's not just that the people aren't watching.
When you're not showing up, you're showing disdain for your
partnership and that is not good. Like. Look, in our business,
you've gotta be engaged with your partners And Um, if

(01:52:29):
you agreed to make an appearance for any of the
show sponsors, if you agreed or they come by your show,
you have to look them in the I know their name,
know what they're about, know that your partnership, shake them like.
These are things that you have to do. That's part
of business. The NBA's players aren't holding up their business
ends of the agreement. Daylor and R Jr. Says that
he was hurt by the comments made by fellow driver

(01:52:49):
Kevin Harvick. If you didn't hear the comments, these were
the comments Harvick made on Sirius sex M on his
own NASCAR show. This from Kevin Harvick earlier this week.
I believe that dal Junior had had a big pardon
in kind of stunning the growth of NASCAR because he's
got these allegiance of fans and he's, you know, this
huge outreach of of being able to reach different places

(01:53:09):
that none of us have the possibility to reach. And
he's saying because Dale didn't win, but he still has
the legion of fans that that hurt the growth of NASCAR. Ah,
more style than substance. Maybe it's it's not just style,
it's also the name. Um. But I think that's I
think that's fair, isn't it. I mean it it's it

(01:53:30):
comes as a shot, but it's not inaccurate. Yeah, it's
surprising that the great winners, like you know, Jimmy Johnson
has his fans for sure, but nothing rivals what Dale
or Our Jr. Did And Jimmy Johnson is arguably the greatest.
When you talk about accolades and what you have won,
you're comparing Brady and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you really
can't match what Jimmy Johnson has done. So yeah, I

(01:53:53):
mean Darren hard Junior said Kevin Harvick's criticism was hurtful. UM,
and he said, I I know I have not met
But he's also said I know I have not met
other people's expectations. Right. I don't think he's met anybody's expectations,
has he? But it's interesting to say that he was
the reason or one of the reasons why the the
growth of NASCAR was stunted because Dale wasn't winning as much.

(01:54:15):
Lot's put on a shoulder. Yeah, but I I can't.
I don't think that's the reason. I think it's one
of the reasons. I think it's one of the reasons.
Like when the most popular guy isn't winning, it hurts.
It's We talked about this in college sports, UM and
it was with Clay Hilton or who. It was like,
look in your in the Pact twelve. If USC's winning,
then the conference is viewed greater. We talked about it

(01:54:37):
with in Texas and Oklahoma. When they're winning, the conference
is viewed great When if Dale and our junior the
most popular driver is winning. It would have helped creep
more into the mainstream and build the sport more. I
don't think that's a crazy statement. I wouldn't put it's
the it's the percentage of blame you put towards Dale
and her junior not winning. All right, final one for
the road. What's worse to be John Ramos so not

(01:54:57):
be invited to Cowboys camp? Or to be me and
not invited to coffee this morning? I'm wondering what was worse?
Like John wasn't even included at all, but I was included,
but yet I was left out. So I'm just wondering
what what's worse being Ramos or being mere for for
not being in on the coffee for a this morning.

(01:55:18):
I'd say not being invited to the coffee this morning
if you just speak totally candid with you, um, because
Ramos this that was the decision above our pay grade,
Like the Rams didn't want Ramos was a little creepy
as yeah, fandom my Ranmo. The Rams were like, dude,
Ramos is like, you know, it's a little creepy. But
that was that was That was a Scott Sapiro decision.

(01:55:38):
That was a sales decision. That was a pr decision. Uh,
we just didn't include you. Never once did you guys
say something's missing this morning? Was really there was really nothing.
And not only that you brought it up to my face,
which was interesting because a lot of times I just
don't say anything. Don't just don't talk about coffee. Just
don't say in front of Dan, do you drink coffee? Sure?

(01:56:00):
How do you really drink? Yeah? I bring a CuPy
in every morning. You're like, what do you drink? And
I'll tell you grande white Melca. It's all right, it's
all good. Really, I don't even get out there and pressed.
That was the press. Uh. Getting caught with weed is
one thing. Getting caught like Zach Randolph Cott got caught.

(01:56:22):
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(01:56:47):
Talk Gotli Show, Fox Sports Radio. Can I welcome you
guys into my life a second as we're welcoming on
Facebook Live? Alright, So, uh so my one of my
daughters is texting me about the other daughter being rude,
but she doesn't want me to tell my wife that

(01:57:08):
she's texting me, or that she's asking me what should
I do. So of course I text my wife, right
because I'm like, look, I'm kind of busy right now,
but this is going down, and so it's a really
like they're sitting relatively close to each other and I'm
trying to trying to navigate that while trying to conduct
a radio show. You're trying to be the firefighter from

(01:57:30):
halfway across, half acrossed the halfway across the country. Isn't
isn't father fund? Maybe I should put a do not
disturb on from my kids, like, hey, no, I don't,
don't don't bother me. I'm a big big time my
own kids. Um, it's there's there's speeding tickets and then
there's that was aggressive. Right, There's all kinds of different

(01:57:51):
levels two things that you can do. It's like there's
in college sports, there's breaking rules and then there's cheating. Right, Um,
there's getting caught with weed, and there's what happened to
Zach Rando. Okay, and like look Zach Randof didn't what
was the cowboy that had the van full of weed

(01:58:12):
after he returned? Was it Nate Newton. Do you guys
remember the Nate Newton story. Take a take a wild
guess music. I want you to just take a guess
on on how much weed they found in Nate Newton's van,
or just take a to take a take a guess. Well,
you're saying van, So I'm gonna go something like five pounds, um,

(01:58:34):
multiply five no times, hold on to see how my
math is. My math is really bad. Multiply it by
utwo hundred and thirteen pounds of wheat two hundred and
thirteen pounds of weed. That's aggressive. That's it's getting after

(01:58:58):
a little bit, right Like Cheach and Chong are like, whoa,
that's a lot of weeds. I know Cheach and Chong
data reference um, but that was a lot. Zach Ranenough
did not have two pounds of weeds. It was not
that aggressive. He was not driving a hundred and fifty
given a middle finger. It wasn't that that type of
speeding ticket. But he was in one of the worst

(01:59:19):
parts of l a part called Nickerson Gardens. Projects, right
like NBA player science for four million, probably worth over
a hund million in the projects, You're like, what are
you doing? Cops? Roll up on guys drinking, smoking, playing music,
refusing to disperse and get out of the street, and
he's one of the ones that runs from the cops
and they arrest him for possession with the intent to distribute,

(01:59:39):
to which there's no real baseline. Doesn't mean that it's
he had anything. He could have had just an ounce
or two ounces or whatever. But it's not a good book.
It's not a Nate Newton look. I don't want to
freak out. It's not a van full of weed where
the weed stuffed in all the seats and just coming
out of the exhaust right, but it's aggressive. I thanks
to Dallas Cowboys for having us out, especially to Dan

(02:00:01):
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