August 23, 2017 • 34 mins
Doug explains why Giants WR Odell Beckham Jr might be dramatic and a headache, but is completely worth it. He discusses the Mayweather v McGregor fight and why no matter what happens, boxing has nothing to gain from this fight. Doug talks to FAU head coach Lane Kiffin about his coaching career so far and what he plans to do differently now as a head coach once again.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom on Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, come into you live and direct from
the City of Angels. Mark Schlaire at three time Super
Bowl champion Fox Sports NFL analysts will join us. In
twenty minutes. Lane Kiffin, head coach of Florida Atlantic, will
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join us and we'll take you to the Browns. Will
take it to the Giants the gene Man who lost
to the Brownies last night in Cleveland on Monday Night Football,
which is where we will begin. Um, there are boxes
that you can check for the perfect storm diva wide receiver. Right.
First of all, part of being a diva is position based.
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Like you can't be a look at me guy, a
celebration guy if you're I don't know, a middle linebacker,
like middle lineberger has to be a position of toughness
and leadership and tenacity. You're not gonna Michael Jackson moonwalk
after every hit when you're a middle linebacker. I mean
even if you look at um. What's the name of
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the punter for the Oakland Raiders who last year was
dancing Marquette King like, look, Marquette King dancing was kind
of cool, but he's a punter, so you get away
with it. On the other hand, Travis Kelsey clowned him
when they played against him because he's just a punter. Right.
The thing about the thing about wide receivers is you
have to be a little bit crazy in order to
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go across the middle. You have to be super talented
in order to get open, and you gotta be fast
and elusive and special to get open, catch the ball,
take contact or make people miss and take the ball
into the house. Like you have to be an elite
freak athlete talent and because of it, you're wired differently.
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You get a little bit of a pass for being
a quirky, flamboyant personality. There's like thirty guys on is
Earth that can legitimately do what you do. Even if
there are thousands of guys who are as athletic as
you need to be, there's thirty guys who can do
all the things. You gotta be tough, You gotta bill catch,
you gotta be rolling routs, gonna be roll gree defense. Uh,
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you gotta be able to hand fight, you gotta be
able to make people miss. You know, you gotta not
get hurt like all these things. So wide receivers are
a special group, and they know they're a special group.
They are the beautiful woman who's a beautiful woman, has
been told they're a beautiful woman for a long time
and believe they're a beautiful woman. But like tight ends
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are usually a little bit different because they're good athletes.
They're tough, they can catch, they can run, they can
do a little bit everything. But they're not necessarily sexy
or um like the Austin Cups of the world. Who's
like the new Welker, who's the new Edelman, the underneath
wide receiver, the guy who's not really the one nor
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the two. They've had to bite lad scratch claw to
get everything because they're not the freak talent that the
Skylar digs is. They're not the freak talent. The Odell Beckham's,
the you name it. The Dez Bryan's are like those,
are you like the Welkers of the world, because they're
the beautiful woman that weren't always told that they were beautiful.
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But Odell Beckham Jr. Got hit last night at about
knee level coming down to make a catch. He was open.
Wasn't a great toss, although I don't know about the
window that Eli Manning had to make the throw. It's
the hit heard around the world, and the reason we're
paying attention to it is it's O b J. He's
asked for a contract extension that is bigger than any
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wide receiver and frankly, he wants quarterback type money. Right.
He is among the most popular players in the league.
He plays in New York City, which makes him a
bigger than life figure. He has actually average more yards
per game than any player in his first three years
in major in NFL history. Like all of these things,
he has a cool look. He has the amazing one
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handed catch. He played on Monday Night Football, which, even
though it was against the Browns and his preseason Monday
Night Football does breakthrough in comparison to the other NFL
preseason games. Right, it was the only thing. It was
either that our Bachelor in Paradise last night. Frankly, I
was toggling between the two. The point is that there's
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a lot of boxes that are checked that made us
all pay attention, and Twitter was filled with NFL players
paying attention to it. Here's Odell Beckham, Jr. On the
hit his reaction afterwards. I don't know, man, I'm I'm
pretty concerned, but I think I'll be all right high
ankle um. I didn't go to school, uh, you know,
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in anatomy and kinesiology. I'm not really a doctor, but
I think so. He was smiling when he said it.
It appears that he's okay, and he seems to have um.
He's he seems too, uh feel like he's going to
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be all right. That he just freaked out in the moment. Right.
Of course, this caused NFL players to get getting a
Twitter storm with the how it was the hit was
too low, the hit was dirty, the preseasons pointless, this
is why they shouldn't be playing. My takeaway was quite different.
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First takeaway is, look, this is how close you are
to a catastrophic seasonating injury. You do nothing wrong, You
go up and you make a play and by all uh,
by all aspects of the written rule, that is a
legal hit on Odell Beckham Jr. Absolutely positively legal and
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so a legal play, a good play by a wide receiver,
a tackle by a defensive back can lead to a
season ending injury. If you want to know why, NFL
players get the least amount of guaranteed money even the
stars in comparison, or the least amount of years and
guaranteed money in comparison to the best the major Major
league ers and NBA players. There's other factors. Number of
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appearances is one of them. Length of career is one
of them. Um. But one of the big ones is
that think about all the things that can go wrong
that can keep you out for a game, for two games,
for a season, and can end your career rather quickly.
That's a big reason that careers are so short in
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the NFL. Second thing, NFL players who always say I'd
rather be hitting the head than hitting the knee. That's
that's somebody who has never been hitting the knee. That
reminds me of motorcycle guy who doesn't believe the helmet law. Right,
my god, the helmet law that lacks limits my protection. Okay,
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but when your head is rolling off of your neck
because you chose not to wear a helmet, one good
luck telling that your family to all the rest of
us have to pay for it. When your head is
performing so poorly it doesn't know it needs a helmet
to perform such an activity. It ceases to become a
head that we should pay attention to. James Lofton is
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a Hall of Fame wide receiver calling games this year
for CBS. He was on Dan Patrick's show earlier today
on Fox Sports Radio. He offered this up players who
have not been concussed, which they hit in the head,
players who have been concussed a couple of times, and says,
bring it on low. Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, hit
me hit me high rather than low. You ever had
a concussion? No, what's it like? Well, you can't find
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your car keys, you have a headache, you're in a fog,
and if you have too many of them then you'll
never play football again. Yeah sure, and oh yeah, by
the way, when you get to like forty, you start
losing some cognitive function. Hit me high, not low. Is
the guy who's never been hit high not low. I'm
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not going to freak out over Odell Beckham. He does
check the box of diva's but he's also a super
talented diva. He's the hot chick who's been told he's
the hot chicks since the day he first put on
addressing heels, and the one thing you can't deny about
a beautiful woman. Is she is, in fact a beautiful woman.
I've said this before about Hallie Berry. Right, there's gotta
be something wrong with Hallie Berry. She's married three times,
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can't be happy in love. But you know what, she's
still Hallie Berry. We can still right Like it's you're
not gonna eat kick Hallie Berry out of bed for
eating crackers, and you're not gonna get rid of O'Dell
Beckham Jr. Just because he's kind of a pain in
the ass. He's kind of worth it. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. The Westgate Las
Vegas sports book first posted Mayweather as a minus favorite
and McGregor as a plus eleven hundred underdog and a
hypothetical bout back on February six the since the fight
became official on June fourteen, sports books have witnessed a
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mind boggling handle handled as the amount of money that's
gambled on on a fight, on a sporting event, or whatever,
driving the consensus price to Mayweather minus four McGregor plus
three seventy five. In other words, like if you bet
McGregor way back in the day before it was a fight,
you'd be sitting pretty like just put a hundred dollars down,
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put a thousand dollars down, and you got a chance
to win. Um crazy, crazy money. Most people just asked
to bet McGregor's south point. Oddsmaker Jimmy Vacaro said, they
don't even care what the prices. This is like hanging
negative three on a superol and seeing the line move
to negative eight. J J. Rude, vice president of MGM
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Racing Sports Book, says, revealing the company's current ticket ratio
is twenty one. Last month it was fifty to one.
This could be the worst loss in the history of MGM. Ultimately,
we want to be in position where we win a
significant amount on Mayweather. We want to be We don't
want to be destroyed if if McGregor wins. We don't
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want this fight to cost us the whole year. It's
a giant unknown posting a point spread in a college
football team against the word uh college, the best college
football team against the worst NFL team. It's just so
difficult to compare, engage. That's that's actually the perfect analogy.
Sharps are waiting for Mayweather line to hit when it
bottoms out. Sharps are people who are professional betters. They
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will bet lots of big money bets on Mayweather. The
question is how much of that will offset the public
betting on McGregor. McGregor is not just the people's champ
of people searching for a long shot, right, it's the
Calvin bow Rail is writing who That's who I'm going
with the car was asked. The largest reported wager he
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took came from Las Vegas residents. The Malouf brothers risked
UH eight hundred and eighty thousand dollars on Mayweather minus
five fifty to win one sixties. So maloos are like,
we're betting the favorite. This an easy bet. We're only
gonna win a hundred sixty grand out of eighty grand.
But it's just it's smart. The price keeps coming down,
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and then it was just too good to pass up,
said Mayweather neighbor Gavin Malouf, as he and his siblings
vow to donate winnings to charities in Las Vegas and
Los Angeles. Why are they going to donate it? They
lost their NBA team, they lost their hotel, Like do
you need to keep all that money? Look, I look
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at it as a no end for anything in boxing,
anything in boxing. This is to no win. If Mayweather wins,
You're like, I can't do this anymore. I can't do it.
I can't spend money. And the Codo Triple G fight
is gonna be a great fight. But I do know
that's like the I just I can't. I can't do
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the Mayweather thing. I can't do the this is the biggest,
this is the greatest. You have to spend a hundred
bucks again, and if he loses, it was rigged because
it's boxing, Because there's no way a guy who's never
been in a professional boxing match can beat the best
professional boxer fighting, right. I think it's a no win now.
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I think there's an actual big loss out there for UFC,
but I think there's a big win for mixed martial arts.
McGregor looks good or decent, and you can see that
he's athletic and he can land some shots against Mayweather
that others have not been able to. When then you
kind of bought it like this is he's not even
a boxer and he's able to box with the sky.
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But the if he looks bad and he gets clowned,
it looks there's just no erasing, there's no deleting that
memory from your from your brain. Fox Sports Radio has
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he joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.
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What happened? Dude? We like got I'm locked in, I'm ready,
I got all my Florida Atlantic owl's stuff ready. Okay,
I'm good. I have no idea, just watch film and
then they bring me a phone and I'm supposed to
get on the radio. My bad, No worries, no worries.
How is it great? Um? We're just plugging along here.
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Um finished up training camp and UM getting ready for
exciting opener versus Navy. Um to Friday nights from now. Okay, So, um,
when when you took the job, like you know, flori Atlantic.
For people who haven't been there, I've been to the campus,
do you actually have good facilities? They've wanted to be
good for a long time, but like, look, you came
from every head coaching job you've had in college football
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has been and even at Alabama's offense quity, you've had
everything at your disposal right yet, sc he had and
I know you had the n c A stuff to
where you couldn't have full scholarships. But Tennessee and even
at Bama, what is it going from the uber elite
super high major to Florida Atlantics level in terms of
facilities and resources. Well, we do have some really um
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good things here. Um. First off, the stadium is a
great stadium, fairly new. Um, I guess they say the
best in the conference. Um, facilities are on their way
um to being a new facility being built, so we'll
get there. But um, but the good thing is, and
we used to say this at f C two when
everybody said how great Oregans facilities were and everything, and
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ours weren't very good at UFC at the time, we
just say, well, you guess what, we get to have
this weather, so we really don't need him that much.
So it's kind of similar down here. We don't have
the indoor facilities and that stuff, but you know, we
got pretty great weather to practice every day. Yeah, you
get a little humidity, got some big old bugs, and
you got occasionally occasional thunderstorm, which I'm sure which I'm
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sure can be can be troublesome. Um, how are you different?
Like you haven't it's been a couple of years since
you've had your own scraining camp, your own program. How
are you different now than you were your last year
getting ready for a season at SC. Well, I went through, um,
three years with arguably the best coach in the history
of college football and certainly the most probably the you know,
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the best recruiter and most organized detail there is. So um,
you know, having that after having all the experience you
know with the coach Carroll there and not even kind
of combined the two and mold them. You gotta be
yourself too. But um, you know, you get to take
a lot of stuff from not just from being with
him for three years, but also being there and being
in one of the greatest runs too, you know, in
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the history college football, you know, the last three years there.
So um, I feel like I'm I'm lot better now
than than I was, you know before going there. There
are there are lots of people who have different perceptions
of your relationship with coach Saban what's the reality of
what's the reality of what you and him he were
like working together. We had a very respectful, um working relationship.
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Um that worked extremely well. And it is kind of
like a marriage really when when you're the offensive coordina
for a defensive head coach, especially when you really didn't
know very much. You hadn't worked for him, didn't know
that much about him. It's kind of like being married
in but like a blind marriage, like you really didn't
know what any going in all. Its like like in
a rage, like in a range marriage. Yes, range marriage,
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Like all of a sudden you just all right, you
gotta work together and and figure this thing out because
he he runs his program this way and it has
these different thoughts, um, not just within the Bournemount offense too,
you have your thoughts too, and then it's got to work.
Um you know. So Um that's not always easy right
at first, regardless no matter who you are, And so
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that takes a little bit of time and transition to
figure that out. Um. And we got through that and
went forty I think went forty and three, you know,
in three straight SEC championships and and the Heidsman Whitney coffin. UM.
You know, an SEC Freshman of the Year last or
SEC Offensive Player of the Year last year. UM for
the third straight year. So there were some really great
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things there. UM won a lot of games. Yeah, it's
it's interesting line keef and head coach that Flori Atlantic
joins us. I think the part that goes underrated the
most of the job you did at Alabama was the
three years, three very different quarterbacks. You know, Blake Sims,
tremendous athlete, right not not not a great thrower. Then
you have Jake Coker, who's more kind of traditional traditional
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thrower who had earned the job than you had Jalen who,
uh you know, not totally refined, but also a true
freshman to put him in and to start him in
Alabama win all those games. Uh So now you have
now you bringing Kendall Briyle's to be your offensive coordinator.
He obviously comes from the Baylor system. What what were
your offense like? Like, you had three very different guys
and you had a different style even when you're at
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USC based upon the different quarterbacks. What are you guys
gonna look like at flor Atlantic? We're going to be
a lot more Um towards his system. So I kind
of took a different approach in this one after going
through it and see kind of, you know, I really
thought that saving did such a great job of running
the whole program. And so before being the CEO, and
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if you're going to call one side, you know, he
didn't call the defense. You're gonna call one side and
do the whole thing and coach all the coaches, players, everything.
You're gonna have to give up some areas and and
that's what I did before, you know, by always calling
plays and running the whole offense wherever I was. And
so this has allowed me to have some more time
to be more involved in defense, special teams, UM player relations,
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um fundraise. You know, all the different things are with
the head coach that now I think it is better.
So um he's running it, and so is UM much
more um uh a system. You've you've obviously taken several
transfers at flor Atlantic. Part of it is that's the
culture of college football, but it's also if you want
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to win at Florida Atlantic, you're going to have to
take guys who need a second chance or need a
place where they haven't been seen before. What's that like
for you instead of Alabama, SC even Tennessee where you
guys were killing it and recruiting, taking off the top
of the deck instead taking guys who you know, it's
not the way we're boys home, but guys that need
that second or sometimes third or fourth opportunity. Well, I
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think you know the SEC experience. You know, they always
say something good comes out of something bad. You know,
the losing the thirties scholarships there and trying to manage
a roster through that, which at the time, everybody, as
you're ever called at the death penalty in UFC was
over you know for years, nearest you know when we
managed to go through that and fifteen and um, they've
had some great season since. So I think going through
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that has helped a little bit because we had to
try to find every single walk on every single avenue
we it of anyone anywhere. Um, I mean our last
game verse Arizona State and we're getting fired. You know,
we have a receiver in it that was in our
s I D Department a couple of weeks before as intern.
So you know, we had to do everything there and
so you kind of gotta do that here and so
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this this place is you know, you're not gonna take
twenty high school kids that are four point of students
who win a lot of games. So you've got to
look everywhere for guys and and you know, everywhere that
you can and that's what we've been doing, um, and
create a culture that you can bring them into that
the culture is set here of our expectations and standards
laying Kiff and our guests on the Doug Gottlip Show.
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You mentioned USC and and it was really like the
third quarter against Arizona State, where and and and the
and the lack of depth. Have you gotten closure from it?
I mean, because like, look, it was the way in
which it was handled doesn't sit well with a lot
of people. Um have you have you personally gotten kind
of closure on how everything went down? Uh? Yeah, I
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don't that that part. I mean, you get fired, you
get fired. That's people's decisions. And you know, um, you
know whatever the story is that you know you're you know,
fired in the third quarter of the game and told
you know at three o'clock in the morning on the
tarmac and when you've heard those stories, but that is
what it is. The part that the only part that
bothers me is that it's like everyone forgets about the
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thirty scholarships. That's kind of a big deal because now
that's thirty we don't have and guess what they're playing
against us those other thirty year and the rest of
the conference, because those are you know a lot of
those are California kids that that we're dying to come
to death see and we couldn't take. So that's the
part that that's the only part that really bothers me
that you know, we did this horrible job, you know,
as as a as a head coach and with the
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program and really as you look at I think somebody said,
whatever it is, three or four of the last six
seven years or something have been ten wins seasons at
UFC since since when we were there. Well, I think
everybody had taken out the time when they were talking
about the death penalty and that you know, we're gonna
win four in five games a year, you know, like
uh kind like Miami went through, you know when they
had a Lane Keevin joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show.
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Naval Academy is your is your opener? What are your
realistic expectations for your team that is a very difficult matchup, um,
you know, especially because their offense is completely opposite of ours.
So for our defense, it's a very big challenge. So um,
and we're not going to get as many possessions on offense,
you know as we used to because they grind the
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clock and they play really slow. So it's gonna be
a very challenging game for us. But it's get very exciting.
You know, it is home here, um on ESPN, so
it'll be exciting. Yeah, no, listen, it'll be fun. That
first first down for you guys on offense is the
big thing, right, get them on their heels so that
you can, guys, get going tempo. Otherwise you gotta kick
it away and then they gotta get you grinding with
their option game. Like doesn't the first first down become
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the most important thing for you? Yeah, these systems here, um,
you know, just like when you used to have play
play Oregon there. You know, if you can get them
stop where they get going, you know you've got a chance.
Um when they when you make the first one or two,
now all of a sudden you're under the heel. So
now we're running that offense. So how we got to
make those first first downs. Well, listen, like, we wish
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you the best of success this year, especially against Navy,
and then you got Wisconsin on the road. It doesn't
get any easier. Thanks so much for spending some time
with this year on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, you
gotta have a great week. All Right. That's a Lane Kiffin,
head coach at Florida Florida Atlantic. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
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the I Heart Radio app. People are apparently mad. There's
a TMZ photo of Ezekiel Elliott chilling on a lake
on his day off. I've always said this, not now
there's women around him, but he's on a lake outside
of Dallas. If you get me on a lake in
the summer in Dallas, there's gonna be women wearing bikinis. Right.
He's not drinking, he's not pulling anybody's bikini down. He's
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just hanging on a lake. I've always thought that people
who have issues with somebody doing something enjoy bole. They're
supposed to feel bad about themselves. Uh, those people are
the ones who didn't get invited to the party, right, Like,
I'm mad Zeke didn't text me do you want to
go to Lake Dallas today and chill out? And maybe
that's what it is, but this is one of those
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if you really think you did nothing wrong, and Zeke
side has been like, this is a complete lie. I
didn't lay a hand on her. Why is he on
his day off supposed to act like he did something wrong,
Like he's not doing anything two intimate intimidate women or
there's he's not alleged to have anything. You wanna talk
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about a much ado about nothing thing. Fox Sports Radio
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and within the I Heart Radio app. I saw this story,
um that that came down oh about midway through the show,
and it was that Eric Winston, who's the president of
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the nfl P A okay, president of the nfl P
A is quote is saying he doesn't care if the
NFL dies out in twenty years. Okay, You've got to
read the entire quote, not just the headline. It's really important.
Remember Demorris Smith made some comments going back to last week.
More Smith is the executive director of the NFL, P A. So.
Moore Smith, not a player lawyer, very smart, said Hey,
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there's likely to be a work stoppage or maybe even
a lockout or strike in two thousand twenty one. Um,
here's what Winston said. Honestly, I don't care, and I
don't think these guys care in this locker room whether
the NFL is gonna be around in twenty years, because
none of us are going to be playing. Winston, an
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offensive tackle for the Bengals, told w c p O. So,
if these guys the owners want to own for a
long time, they can own for a long time. But
another work stoppage might kill the golden goose, Demorris Smith said.
The union's executive director said last week that there's the
likelihood of either a strike or a lockout is almost
a virtual certainty. The NFL's collected bart In agreement is
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set to expire two thousand one. Uh, there was a
hundred and thirty two day lockout in two thousand and eleven.
You didn't miss any games, all right, Winston went on.
He said, I'm certainly not worried about it. I'm not
going to be around for too long. I don't care
if there are rookies in here. They're not going to
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be playing that long. So if this thing dies out
in twenty years, it dies out in twenty years. That's
not really my concern. I don't think any of these
players concerns are there either, So I guess the nfl
p A, like uh Winston said, there are, he acknowledged
there's always issues between labor and management. The nfl p
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A has clashed about Adrian Peterson's suspension over child abuse,
Tom Brady's the flake Gate suspension is Zeke Elliott's. Uh.
My personal theory is that fans think they have a
stake in the team. I was blindsided, probably as anybody
in two thousand eleven. They don't look at the issues wages, hours,
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working conditions, health and safety. You talk about the same
thing coal miners meetings. We do in our meetings. I
think fans look at the team and say it's their team.
They have ownership. That's why they hear their fans say,
oh the salary cap, and they think they're kind of
like general managers. Obviously, fantasy football and things playing into that.
I'm I'm not a big fan of trying to win
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this Here's what I'm not a big fan of. What
are you doing negotiating this thing through the media. What
are you doing talking about it four years before it
actually happens, Right Like, Eric Winston is not even gonna
be the president of the nfl p A in four
years likely, And the idea that well, I don't care
about twenty years from now. That's not really being a
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guardian of the game. This is this is what happens
unions and the Moore Smith is a lawyer, and Eric
Winston essentially is acting like a lawyer. Right Like, if
you ask a lawyer, a guy can get caught with
the victim's blood on him, hand holding the murder weapon,
footprints and blood and urine and whatever all over the
(28:17):
scene of the crime, and his his lawyer would be like, Nope,
didn't do it. You know, um the evidence will prove
to him, not like that's what they do. Whereas you
asked the other side, they're like, yeah, I got this,
got that the other this is just posturing and it's
kind of annoys me, and I actually think Winston is
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taking the wrong tone. Look, I don't can they want
to own these teams forever? I don't care about forever.
I care about now. In other words, I care about
money right now, he's saying. Now, he's saying, which is
really what this is about. The NFL p doesn't care
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about Tom Brady getting suspended or Adrian Peterson getting suspended
or whomever again, or Zekielli getting suspended. They don't care
about that, not even a little bit. They care about
how much they're gonna get paid because they got hammered
in the last negotiations. And here's the reason that they're
saying it now as opposed to saying it a half
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year in advance, because they're telling football players save up, dude,
save up all your money. Because what the owners have
on the players and what they'll always have on the players,
is that it's not the primary source of income. It's
just not. Whereas for players, there isn't anywhere on earth
that they can earn six seven figures if not for
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the NFL. Not. And so while there is pressure for
the NFL owners to always have a league and to
have teams, and they have deals with stadiums, look, this
is not gonna win you fans, This is not gonna
win public support. And it's four years away. I don't
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I don't like the tone like a tact. I don't
think it makes sense. And I think posturing four years
before your contract this help. While it might be sending money,
sending messages to constituents, the messages sends us fans are
we just care about money and not the game. And
there may be some reality to it. But the other
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reality was you had a hundred three day lockout. The
most NFL fans in reality didn't even know existed, right,
but we have a lockout. Yeah, it was during the
off season and we lost some money. Like, okay, do
you know the NFL team salary cap is like seventy
million dollars more than the NBA salary cap. There's just
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more guys, three guys, and they're gonna get more jobs.
They'll next time, they'll have sixty ops, next time, sixty
roster spots, and there'll be a higher salary cap, but
it'll be spread over sixty guys, so the money will
go up incrementally, but not percentage wise in terms like
split or whatever they're doing. Now. Be sure to catch
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the I Heart radio app and now at agent war
Zanowski on and of course the Lakers are reportedly being
investigated for tampering with Paul George while a member of
the Indiana Pacers. Here's load on the real reason the
Pacers are accusing the Lakers of tampering. They did not
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file the tampering charges based on that television interview that
they feel there was um significantly more that went on.
Magic is the target of this. He's the one that
they believe that there is evidence of tampering with. And
that's what the league will investigate. The Leak has a
law firm that does it. What Indiana is frustrated with
and what other teams, small market teams is Paul George
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had two years left on his contract, at least one
full year and then he could have opted out. That
the frustration and why other teams are watching this is
they feel like they're getting targeted by bigger market teams
when guys have multiple years left on their deal and
they're not accepting of that premise that that premise is okay, right.
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I mean, like, look, the idea that you could go
to the Lakers or want to go to the Lakers
is reasonable. The idea that the Lakers would want a
kid who grew up watching the Lakers in the southern California. Again,
all of that is acceptable. And maybe if you're going
to be a free agent that year the A when
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it comes out, and like all that. But when you
got two years left in your deal and all these
players are ganging up and leaving small markets or and
going to super teams, it just doesn't say well with
people like That's not that, that's not the spirit of
having a league. We are all for one and one
for all. We're only as chain is only as strong
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as its weakest linked all that stuff. And so I
don't blame the Pacers for being ticked, and do I do.
I think it will be really hard to prove tampering
unless they get unless they get magics, phone records, is
text messages, um. But I absolutely think that magic did it.
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And and the great thing about the Pacers and their
pursuit is if they can get those electronic records, which
I don't know if they'll have access to. If they can,
there's no control group right like it'll look I have
I'm telling you right now, I think it'll look really
really bad. But it's a lot like the Patriots with
Tom Brady. Like do I think that the the deflator
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took air out of the football? I do? Do I
think that there are other guys, equipment guys that put
air into and take air out of football's for quarterbacks.
I do. But we don't have a control group to say,
like does this go on everywhere? They don't care. There's
no control group to know if other NBA g M
s are texting agents or texting friends about getting connecting
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to Paul George. And look if there's direct contact with
Paul George from DA Johnson with US, bad as bad
bad look bad. Look. So people can say, well they
didn't get Chris Paul, so they can't go after the
Lakers like h this is a big thing for the
other owners. You can get our players via free agency,
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but this fleecing of free agents and fleecing of the
mid level markets. Utah losing Gordon Hayward. Do you think
they're pissed, Yeah, they're pissed. Yeah. Oklahoma City. I grant
they trade away James Harden, but they lost Kevin Durant
and I think they're gonna be math and lose Russell Westbrook,
Oh yeah, oh yeah,
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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(00:25):
join us and we'll take you to the Browns. Will
take it to the Giants the gene Man who lost
to the Brownies last night in Cleveland on Monday Night Football,
which is where we will begin. Um, there are boxes
that you can check for the perfect storm diva wide receiver. Right.
First of all, part of being a diva is position based.
(00:48):
Like you can't be a look at me guy, a
celebration guy if you're I don't know, a middle linebacker,
like middle lineberger has to be a position of toughness
and leadership and tenacity. You're not gonna Michael Jackson moonwalk
after every hit when you're a middle linebacker. I mean
even if you look at um. What's the name of
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the punter for the Oakland Raiders who last year was
dancing Marquette King like, look, Marquette King dancing was kind
of cool, but he's a punter, so you get away
with it. On the other hand, Travis Kelsey clowned him
when they played against him because he's just a punter. Right.
The thing about the thing about wide receivers is you
have to be a little bit crazy in order to
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go across the middle. You have to be super talented
in order to get open, and you gotta be fast
and elusive and special to get open, catch the ball,
take contact or make people miss and take the ball
into the house. Like you have to be an elite
freak athlete talent and because of it, you're wired differently.
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You get a little bit of a pass for being
a quirky, flamboyant personality. There's like thirty guys on is
Earth that can legitimately do what you do. Even if
there are thousands of guys who are as athletic as
you need to be, there's thirty guys who can do
all the things. You gotta be tough, You gotta bill catch,
you gotta be rolling routs, gonna be roll gree defense. Uh,
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you gotta be able to hand fight, you gotta be
able to make people miss. You know, you gotta not
get hurt like all these things. So wide receivers are
a special group, and they know they're a special group.
They are the beautiful woman who's a beautiful woman, has
been told they're a beautiful woman for a long time
and believe they're a beautiful woman. But like tight ends
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are usually a little bit different because they're good athletes.
They're tough, they can catch, they can run, they can
do a little bit everything. But they're not necessarily sexy
or um like the Austin Cups of the world. Who's
like the new Welker, who's the new Edelman, the underneath
wide receiver, the guy who's not really the one nor
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the two. They've had to bite lad scratch claw to
get everything because they're not the freak talent that the
Skylar digs is. They're not the freak talent. The Odell Beckham's,
the you name it. The Dez Bryan's are like those,
are you like the Welkers of the world, because they're
the beautiful woman that weren't always told that they were beautiful.
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But Odell Beckham Jr. Got hit last night at about
knee level coming down to make a catch. He was open.
Wasn't a great toss, although I don't know about the
window that Eli Manning had to make the throw. It's
the hit heard around the world, and the reason we're
paying attention to it is it's O b J. He's
asked for a contract extension that is bigger than any
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wide receiver and frankly, he wants quarterback type money. Right.
He is among the most popular players in the league.
He plays in New York City, which makes him a
bigger than life figure. He has actually average more yards
per game than any player in his first three years
in major in NFL history. Like all of these things,
he has a cool look. He has the amazing one
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handed catch. He played on Monday Night Football, which, even
though it was against the Browns and his preseason Monday
Night Football does breakthrough in comparison to the other NFL
preseason games. Right, it was the only thing. It was
either that our Bachelor in Paradise last night. Frankly, I
was toggling between the two. The point is that there's
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a lot of boxes that are checked that made us
all pay attention, and Twitter was filled with NFL players
paying attention to it. Here's Odell Beckham, Jr. On the
hit his reaction afterwards. I don't know, man, I'm I'm
pretty concerned, but I think I'll be all right high
ankle um. I didn't go to school, uh, you know,
(04:55):
in anatomy and kinesiology. I'm not really a doctor, but
I think so. He was smiling when he said it.
It appears that he's okay, and he seems to have um.
He's he seems too, uh feel like he's going to
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be all right. That he just freaked out in the moment. Right.
Of course, this caused NFL players to get getting a
Twitter storm with the how it was the hit was
too low, the hit was dirty, the preseasons pointless, this
is why they shouldn't be playing. My takeaway was quite different.
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First takeaway is, look, this is how close you are
to a catastrophic seasonating injury. You do nothing wrong, You
go up and you make a play and by all uh,
by all aspects of the written rule, that is a
legal hit on Odell Beckham Jr. Absolutely positively legal and
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so a legal play, a good play by a wide receiver,
a tackle by a defensive back can lead to a
season ending injury. If you want to know why, NFL
players get the least amount of guaranteed money even the
stars in comparison, or the least amount of years and
guaranteed money in comparison to the best the major Major
league ers and NBA players. There's other factors. Number of
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appearances is one of them. Length of career is one
of them. Um. But one of the big ones is
that think about all the things that can go wrong
that can keep you out for a game, for two games,
for a season, and can end your career rather quickly.
That's a big reason that careers are so short in
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the NFL. Second thing, NFL players who always say I'd
rather be hitting the head than hitting the knee. That's
that's somebody who has never been hitting the knee. That
reminds me of motorcycle guy who doesn't believe the helmet law. Right,
my god, the helmet law that lacks limits my protection. Okay,
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but when your head is rolling off of your neck
because you chose not to wear a helmet, one good
luck telling that your family to all the rest of
us have to pay for it. When your head is
performing so poorly it doesn't know it needs a helmet
to perform such an activity. It ceases to become a
head that we should pay attention to. James Lofton is
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a Hall of Fame wide receiver calling games this year
for CBS. He was on Dan Patrick's show earlier today
on Fox Sports Radio. He offered this up players who
have not been concussed, which they hit in the head,
players who have been concussed a couple of times, and says,
bring it on low. Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, hit
me hit me high rather than low. You ever had
a concussion? No, what's it like? Well, you can't find
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your car keys, you have a headache, you're in a fog,
and if you have too many of them then you'll
never play football again. Yeah sure, and oh yeah, by
the way, when you get to like forty, you start
losing some cognitive function. Hit me high, not low. Is
the guy who's never been hit high not low. I'm
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not going to freak out over Odell Beckham. He does
check the box of diva's but he's also a super
talented diva. He's the hot chick who's been told he's
the hot chicks since the day he first put on
addressing heels, and the one thing you can't deny about
a beautiful woman. Is she is, in fact a beautiful woman.
I've said this before about Hallie Berry. Right, there's gotta
be something wrong with Hallie Berry. She's married three times,
(08:35):
can't be happy in love. But you know what, she's
still Hallie Berry. We can still right Like it's you're
not gonna eat kick Hallie Berry out of bed for
eating crackers, and you're not gonna get rid of O'Dell
Beckham Jr. Just because he's kind of a pain in
the ass. He's kind of worth it. Be sure to
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. The Westgate Las
Vegas sports book first posted Mayweather as a minus favorite
and McGregor as a plus eleven hundred underdog and a
hypothetical bout back on February six the since the fight
became official on June fourteen, sports books have witnessed a
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mind boggling handle handled as the amount of money that's
gambled on on a fight, on a sporting event, or whatever,
driving the consensus price to Mayweather minus four McGregor plus
three seventy five. In other words, like if you bet
McGregor way back in the day before it was a fight,
you'd be sitting pretty like just put a hundred dollars down,
(09:40):
put a thousand dollars down, and you got a chance
to win. Um crazy, crazy money. Most people just asked
to bet McGregor's south point. Oddsmaker Jimmy Vacaro said, they
don't even care what the prices. This is like hanging
negative three on a superol and seeing the line move
to negative eight. J J. Rude, vice president of MGM
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Racing Sports Book, says, revealing the company's current ticket ratio
is twenty one. Last month it was fifty to one.
This could be the worst loss in the history of MGM. Ultimately,
we want to be in position where we win a
significant amount on Mayweather. We want to be We don't
want to be destroyed if if McGregor wins. We don't
(10:23):
want this fight to cost us the whole year. It's
a giant unknown posting a point spread in a college
football team against the word uh college, the best college
football team against the worst NFL team. It's just so
difficult to compare, engage. That's that's actually the perfect analogy.
Sharps are waiting for Mayweather line to hit when it
bottoms out. Sharps are people who are professional betters. They
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will bet lots of big money bets on Mayweather. The
question is how much of that will offset the public
betting on McGregor. McGregor is not just the people's champ
of people searching for a long shot, right, it's the
Calvin bow Rail is writing who That's who I'm going
with the car was asked. The largest reported wager he
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took came from Las Vegas residents. The Malouf brothers risked
UH eight hundred and eighty thousand dollars on Mayweather minus
five fifty to win one sixties. So maloos are like,
we're betting the favorite. This an easy bet. We're only
gonna win a hundred sixty grand out of eighty grand.
But it's just it's smart. The price keeps coming down,
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and then it was just too good to pass up,
said Mayweather neighbor Gavin Malouf, as he and his siblings
vow to donate winnings to charities in Las Vegas and
Los Angeles. Why are they going to donate it? They
lost their NBA team, they lost their hotel, Like do
you need to keep all that money? Look, I look
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at it as a no end for anything in boxing,
anything in boxing. This is to no win. If Mayweather wins,
You're like, I can't do this anymore. I can't do it.
I can't spend money. And the Codo Triple G fight
is gonna be a great fight. But I do know
that's like the I just I can't. I can't do
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the Mayweather thing. I can't do the this is the biggest,
this is the greatest. You have to spend a hundred
bucks again, and if he loses, it was rigged because
it's boxing, Because there's no way a guy who's never
been in a professional boxing match can beat the best
professional boxer fighting, right. I think it's a no win now.
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I think there's an actual big loss out there for UFC,
but I think there's a big win for mixed martial arts.
McGregor looks good or decent, and you can see that
he's athletic and he can land some shots against Mayweather
that others have not been able to. When then you
kind of bought it like this is he's not even
a boxer and he's able to box with the sky.
(13:01):
But the if he looks bad and he gets clowned,
it looks there's just no erasing, there's no deleting that
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What happened? Dude? We like got I'm locked in, I'm ready,
I got all my Florida Atlantic owl's stuff ready. Okay,
I'm good. I have no idea, just watch film and
then they bring me a phone and I'm supposed to
get on the radio. My bad, No worries, no worries.
How is it great? Um? We're just plugging along here.
(13:43):
Um finished up training camp and UM getting ready for
exciting opener versus Navy. Um to Friday nights from now. Okay, So, um,
when when you took the job, like you know, flori Atlantic.
For people who haven't been there, I've been to the campus,
do you actually have good facilities? They've wanted to be
good for a long time, but like, look, you came
from every head coaching job you've had in college football
(14:06):
has been and even at Alabama's offense quity, you've had
everything at your disposal right yet, sc he had and
I know you had the n c A stuff to
where you couldn't have full scholarships. But Tennessee and even
at Bama, what is it going from the uber elite
super high major to Florida Atlantics level in terms of
facilities and resources. Well, we do have some really um
(14:30):
good things here. Um. First off, the stadium is a
great stadium, fairly new. Um, I guess they say the
best in the conference. Um, facilities are on their way
um to being a new facility being built, so we'll
get there. But um, but the good thing is, and
we used to say this at f C two when
everybody said how great Oregans facilities were and everything, and
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ours weren't very good at UFC at the time, we
just say, well, you guess what, we get to have
this weather, so we really don't need him that much.
So it's kind of similar down here. We don't have
the indoor facilities and that stuff, but you know, we
got pretty great weather to practice every day. Yeah, you
get a little humidity, got some big old bugs, and
you got occasionally occasional thunderstorm, which I'm sure which I'm
(15:10):
sure can be can be troublesome. Um, how are you different?
Like you haven't it's been a couple of years since
you've had your own scraining camp, your own program. How
are you different now than you were your last year
getting ready for a season at SC. Well, I went through, um,
three years with arguably the best coach in the history
of college football and certainly the most probably the you know,
(15:33):
the best recruiter and most organized detail there is. So um,
you know, having that after having all the experience you
know with the coach Carroll there and not even kind
of combined the two and mold them. You gotta be
yourself too. But um, you know, you get to take
a lot of stuff from not just from being with
him for three years, but also being there and being
in one of the greatest runs too, you know, in
(15:55):
the history college football, you know, the last three years there.
So um, I feel like I'm I'm lot better now
than than I was, you know before going there. There
are there are lots of people who have different perceptions
of your relationship with coach Saban what's the reality of
what's the reality of what you and him he were
like working together. We had a very respectful, um working relationship.
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Um that worked extremely well. And it is kind of
like a marriage really when when you're the offensive coordina
for a defensive head coach, especially when you really didn't
know very much. You hadn't worked for him, didn't know
that much about him. It's kind of like being married
in but like a blind marriage, like you really didn't
know what any going in all. Its like like in
a rage, like in a range marriage. Yes, range marriage,
(16:40):
Like all of a sudden you just all right, you
gotta work together and and figure this thing out because
he he runs his program this way and it has
these different thoughts, um, not just within the Bournemount offense too,
you have your thoughts too, and then it's got to work.
Um you know. So Um that's not always easy right
at first, regardless no matter who you are, And so
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that takes a little bit of time and transition to
figure that out. Um. And we got through that and
went forty I think went forty and three, you know,
in three straight SEC championships and and the Heidsman Whitney coffin. UM.
You know, an SEC Freshman of the Year last or
SEC Offensive Player of the Year last year. UM for
the third straight year. So there were some really great
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things there. UM won a lot of games. Yeah, it's
it's interesting line keef and head coach that Flori Atlantic
joins us. I think the part that goes underrated the
most of the job you did at Alabama was the
three years, three very different quarterbacks. You know, Blake Sims,
tremendous athlete, right not not not a great thrower. Then
you have Jake Coker, who's more kind of traditional traditional
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thrower who had earned the job than you had Jalen who,
uh you know, not totally refined, but also a true
freshman to put him in and to start him in
Alabama win all those games. Uh So now you have
now you bringing Kendall Briyle's to be your offensive coordinator.
He obviously comes from the Baylor system. What what were
your offense like? Like, you had three very different guys
and you had a different style even when you're at
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USC based upon the different quarterbacks. What are you guys
gonna look like at flor Atlantic? We're going to be
a lot more Um towards his system. So I kind
of took a different approach in this one after going
through it and see kind of, you know, I really
thought that saving did such a great job of running
the whole program. And so before being the CEO, and
(18:26):
if you're going to call one side, you know, he
didn't call the defense. You're gonna call one side and
do the whole thing and coach all the coaches, players, everything.
You're gonna have to give up some areas and and
that's what I did before, you know, by always calling
plays and running the whole offense wherever I was. And
so this has allowed me to have some more time
to be more involved in defense, special teams, UM player relations,
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um fundraise. You know, all the different things are with
the head coach that now I think it is better.
So um he's running it, and so is UM much
more um uh a system. You've you've obviously taken several
transfers at flor Atlantic. Part of it is that's the
culture of college football, but it's also if you want
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to win at Florida Atlantic, you're going to have to
take guys who need a second chance or need a
place where they haven't been seen before. What's that like
for you instead of Alabama, SC even Tennessee where you
guys were killing it and recruiting, taking off the top
of the deck instead taking guys who you know, it's
not the way we're boys home, but guys that need
that second or sometimes third or fourth opportunity. Well, I
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think you know the SEC experience. You know, they always
say something good comes out of something bad. You know,
the losing the thirties scholarships there and trying to manage
a roster through that, which at the time, everybody, as
you're ever called at the death penalty in UFC was
over you know for years, nearest you know when we
managed to go through that and fifteen and um, they've
had some great season since. So I think going through
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that has helped a little bit because we had to
try to find every single walk on every single avenue
we it of anyone anywhere. Um, I mean our last
game verse Arizona State and we're getting fired. You know,
we have a receiver in it that was in our
s I D Department a couple of weeks before as intern.
So you know, we had to do everything there and
so you kind of gotta do that here and so
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this this place is you know, you're not gonna take
twenty high school kids that are four point of students
who win a lot of games. So you've got to
look everywhere for guys and and you know, everywhere that
you can and that's what we've been doing, um, and
create a culture that you can bring them into that
the culture is set here of our expectations and standards
laying Kiff and our guests on the Doug Gottlip Show.
(20:36):
You mentioned USC and and it was really like the
third quarter against Arizona State, where and and and the
and the lack of depth. Have you gotten closure from it?
I mean, because like, look, it was the way in
which it was handled doesn't sit well with a lot
of people. Um have you have you personally gotten kind
of closure on how everything went down? Uh? Yeah, I
(20:58):
don't that that part. I mean, you get fired, you
get fired. That's people's decisions. And you know, um, you
know whatever the story is that you know you're you know,
fired in the third quarter of the game and told
you know at three o'clock in the morning on the
tarmac and when you've heard those stories, but that is
what it is. The part that the only part that
bothers me is that it's like everyone forgets about the
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thirty scholarships. That's kind of a big deal because now
that's thirty we don't have and guess what they're playing
against us those other thirty year and the rest of
the conference, because those are you know a lot of
those are California kids that that we're dying to come
to death see and we couldn't take. So that's the
part that that's the only part that really bothers me
that you know, we did this horrible job, you know,
as as a as a head coach and with the
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program and really as you look at I think somebody said,
whatever it is, three or four of the last six
seven years or something have been ten wins seasons at
UFC since since when we were there. Well, I think
everybody had taken out the time when they were talking
about the death penalty and that you know, we're gonna
win four in five games a year, you know, like
uh kind like Miami went through, you know when they
had a Lane Keevin joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show.
(22:05):
Naval Academy is your is your opener? What are your
realistic expectations for your team that is a very difficult matchup, um,
you know, especially because their offense is completely opposite of ours.
So for our defense, it's a very big challenge. So um,
and we're not going to get as many possessions on offense,
you know as we used to because they grind the
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clock and they play really slow. So it's gonna be
a very challenging game for us. But it's get very exciting.
You know, it is home here, um on ESPN, so
it'll be exciting. Yeah, no, listen, it'll be fun. That
first first down for you guys on offense is the
big thing, right, get them on their heels so that
you can, guys, get going tempo. Otherwise you gotta kick
it away and then they gotta get you grinding with
their option game. Like doesn't the first first down become
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the most important thing for you? Yeah, these systems here, um,
you know, just like when you used to have play
play Oregon there. You know, if you can get them
stop where they get going, you know you've got a chance.
Um when they when you make the first one or two,
now all of a sudden you're under the heel. So
now we're running that offense. So how we got to
make those first first downs. Well, listen, like, we wish
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you the best of success this year, especially against Navy,
and then you got Wisconsin on the road. It doesn't
get any easier. Thanks so much for spending some time
with this year on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, you
gotta have a great week. All Right. That's a Lane Kiffin,
head coach at Florida Florida Atlantic. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
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the I Heart Radio app. People are apparently mad. There's
a TMZ photo of Ezekiel Elliott chilling on a lake
on his day off. I've always said this, not now
there's women around him, but he's on a lake outside
of Dallas. If you get me on a lake in
the summer in Dallas, there's gonna be women wearing bikinis. Right.
He's not drinking, he's not pulling anybody's bikini down. He's
(23:53):
just hanging on a lake. I've always thought that people
who have issues with somebody doing something enjoy bole. They're
supposed to feel bad about themselves. Uh, those people are
the ones who didn't get invited to the party, right, Like,
I'm mad Zeke didn't text me do you want to
go to Lake Dallas today and chill out? And maybe
that's what it is, but this is one of those
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if you really think you did nothing wrong, and Zeke
side has been like, this is a complete lie. I
didn't lay a hand on her. Why is he on
his day off supposed to act like he did something wrong,
Like he's not doing anything two intimate intimidate women or
there's he's not alleged to have anything. You wanna talk
(24:38):
about a much ado about nothing thing. Fox Sports Radio
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and within the I Heart Radio app. I saw this story,
um that that came down oh about midway through the show,
and it was that Eric Winston, who's the president of
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the nfl P A okay, president of the nfl P
A is quote is saying he doesn't care if the
NFL dies out in twenty years. Okay, You've got to
read the entire quote, not just the headline. It's really important.
Remember Demorris Smith made some comments going back to last week.
More Smith is the executive director of the NFL, P A. So.
Moore Smith, not a player lawyer, very smart, said Hey,
(25:24):
there's likely to be a work stoppage or maybe even
a lockout or strike in two thousand twenty one. Um,
here's what Winston said. Honestly, I don't care, and I
don't think these guys care in this locker room whether
the NFL is gonna be around in twenty years, because
none of us are going to be playing. Winston, an
(25:45):
offensive tackle for the Bengals, told w c p O. So,
if these guys the owners want to own for a
long time, they can own for a long time. But
another work stoppage might kill the golden goose, Demorris Smith said.
The union's executive director said last week that there's the
likelihood of either a strike or a lockout is almost
a virtual certainty. The NFL's collected bart In agreement is
(26:06):
set to expire two thousand one. Uh, there was a
hundred and thirty two day lockout in two thousand and eleven.
You didn't miss any games, all right, Winston went on.
He said, I'm certainly not worried about it. I'm not
going to be around for too long. I don't care
if there are rookies in here. They're not going to
(26:28):
be playing that long. So if this thing dies out
in twenty years, it dies out in twenty years. That's
not really my concern. I don't think any of these
players concerns are there either, So I guess the nfl
p A, like uh Winston said, there are, he acknowledged
there's always issues between labor and management. The nfl p
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A has clashed about Adrian Peterson's suspension over child abuse,
Tom Brady's the flake Gate suspension is Zeke Elliott's. Uh.
My personal theory is that fans think they have a
stake in the team. I was blindsided, probably as anybody
in two thousand eleven. They don't look at the issues wages, hours,
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working conditions, health and safety. You talk about the same
thing coal miners meetings. We do in our meetings. I
think fans look at the team and say it's their team.
They have ownership. That's why they hear their fans say,
oh the salary cap, and they think they're kind of
like general managers. Obviously, fantasy football and things playing into that.
I'm I'm not a big fan of trying to win
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this Here's what I'm not a big fan of. What
are you doing negotiating this thing through the media. What
are you doing talking about it four years before it
actually happens, Right Like, Eric Winston is not even gonna
be the president of the nfl p A in four
years likely, And the idea that well, I don't care
about twenty years from now. That's not really being a
(27:54):
guardian of the game. This is this is what happens
unions and the Moore Smith is a lawyer, and Eric
Winston essentially is acting like a lawyer. Right Like, if
you ask a lawyer, a guy can get caught with
the victim's blood on him, hand holding the murder weapon,
footprints and blood and urine and whatever all over the
(28:17):
scene of the crime, and his his lawyer would be like, Nope,
didn't do it. You know, um the evidence will prove
to him, not like that's what they do. Whereas you
asked the other side, they're like, yeah, I got this,
got that the other this is just posturing and it's
kind of annoys me, and I actually think Winston is
(28:39):
taking the wrong tone. Look, I don't can they want
to own these teams forever? I don't care about forever.
I care about now. In other words, I care about
money right now, he's saying. Now, he's saying, which is
really what this is about. The NFL p doesn't care
(29:00):
about Tom Brady getting suspended or Adrian Peterson getting suspended
or whomever again, or Zekielli getting suspended. They don't care
about that, not even a little bit. They care about
how much they're gonna get paid because they got hammered
in the last negotiations. And here's the reason that they're
saying it now as opposed to saying it a half
(29:22):
year in advance, because they're telling football players save up, dude,
save up all your money. Because what the owners have
on the players and what they'll always have on the players,
is that it's not the primary source of income. It's
just not. Whereas for players, there isn't anywhere on earth
that they can earn six seven figures if not for
(29:44):
the NFL. Not. And so while there is pressure for
the NFL owners to always have a league and to
have teams, and they have deals with stadiums, look, this
is not gonna win you fans, This is not gonna
win public support. And it's four years away. I don't
(30:11):
I don't like the tone like a tact. I don't
think it makes sense. And I think posturing four years
before your contract this help. While it might be sending money,
sending messages to constituents, the messages sends us fans are
we just care about money and not the game. And
there may be some reality to it. But the other
(30:33):
reality was you had a hundred three day lockout. The
most NFL fans in reality didn't even know existed, right,
but we have a lockout. Yeah, it was during the
off season and we lost some money. Like, okay, do
you know the NFL team salary cap is like seventy
million dollars more than the NBA salary cap. There's just
(30:54):
more guys, three guys, and they're gonna get more jobs.
They'll next time, they'll have sixty ops, next time, sixty
roster spots, and there'll be a higher salary cap, but
it'll be spread over sixty guys, so the money will
go up incrementally, but not percentage wise in terms like
split or whatever they're doing. Now. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports radio and
(31:17):
the I Heart radio app and now at agent war
Zanowski on and of course the Lakers are reportedly being
investigated for tampering with Paul George while a member of
the Indiana Pacers. Here's load on the real reason the
Pacers are accusing the Lakers of tampering. They did not
(31:38):
file the tampering charges based on that television interview that
they feel there was um significantly more that went on.
Magic is the target of this. He's the one that
they believe that there is evidence of tampering with. And
that's what the league will investigate. The Leak has a
law firm that does it. What Indiana is frustrated with
and what other teams, small market teams is Paul George
(32:01):
had two years left on his contract, at least one
full year and then he could have opted out. That
the frustration and why other teams are watching this is
they feel like they're getting targeted by bigger market teams
when guys have multiple years left on their deal and
they're not accepting of that premise that that premise is okay, right.
(32:21):
I mean, like, look, the idea that you could go
to the Lakers or want to go to the Lakers
is reasonable. The idea that the Lakers would want a
kid who grew up watching the Lakers in the southern California. Again,
all of that is acceptable. And maybe if you're going
to be a free agent that year the A when
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it comes out, and like all that. But when you
got two years left in your deal and all these
players are ganging up and leaving small markets or and
going to super teams, it just doesn't say well with
people like That's not that, that's not the spirit of
having a league. We are all for one and one
for all. We're only as chain is only as strong
(33:03):
as its weakest linked all that stuff. And so I
don't blame the Pacers for being ticked, and do I do.
I think it will be really hard to prove tampering
unless they get unless they get magics, phone records, is
text messages, um. But I absolutely think that magic did it.
(33:26):
And and the great thing about the Pacers and their
pursuit is if they can get those electronic records, which
I don't know if they'll have access to. If they can,
there's no control group right like it'll look I have
I'm telling you right now, I think it'll look really
really bad. But it's a lot like the Patriots with
Tom Brady. Like do I think that the the deflator
(33:50):
took air out of the football? I do? Do I
think that there are other guys, equipment guys that put
air into and take air out of football's for quarterbacks.
I do. But we don't have a control group to say,
like does this go on everywhere? They don't care. There's
no control group to know if other NBA g M
s are texting agents or texting friends about getting connecting
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to Paul George. And look if there's direct contact with
Paul George from DA Johnson with US, bad as bad
bad look bad. Look. So people can say, well they
didn't get Chris Paul, so they can't go after the
Lakers like h this is a big thing for the
other owners. You can get our players via free agency,
(34:34):
but this fleecing of free agents and fleecing of the
mid level markets. Utah losing Gordon Hayward. Do you think
they're pissed, Yeah, they're pissed. Yeah. Oklahoma City. I grant
they trade away James Harden, but they lost Kevin Durant
and I think they're gonna be math and lose Russell Westbrook,
Oh yeah, oh yeah,
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