August 24, 2017 • 42 mins
Doug discusses the protests surrounding Colin Kaepernick not yet having a job in the NFL prompting him to ask, does Kaepernick really want to get a job this way; by people forcing the NFL into hiring him and not because teams feel you can help their team? Doug is joined by the NFL on Fox’s Charles Davis to talk all things NFL including what's left in the Kaepernick saga and who he thinks is in the top tier of NFL QBs. Showtime Boxing Analyst Steve Farhood joins the show to look ahead to this weekend’s Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor fight. Doug also points out that many people will watch this weekend's fight in hopes of an injury to one of the fighters.
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of Mayweather McGregor. Might be a sham, It might it
might be another con or it might be the upset
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we have been waiting for in UH in collegian sports,
like a sixteen taking down a one right of one double,
a FCS taking down an FBS. It it might be,
or it might be a complete waste of time. I
don't know. We'll find out Saturday night. Will continue to
bring you some of the voices that will be covering it,
and of course we'll be covering the rest of the
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world of sports today on the Doug gott Leap Show.
Charles Davis gonna join this upcoming fifteen minutes NFL on
Fox Analyst. We'll ask him about quarterback play, rookie quarterbacks,
Dak Prescott, second year quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers, in the elite
quarterback territory, the quarterback Here's lots of talk about with
Charles Davis will join us in fifteen minutes. Brian Kenny
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will join us in an hour. Um He is a
Baseball savant working for the MLB Network. Not sure if
you saw how the Pirates beat the Dodgers in ten
innings Rich Hill and no hitter was wiped out with
one swing of the bat. Crazy stuff, crazy stuff last night,
and Gary Sanchez with the Yankees continues to cement himself
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as Mr August. We'll tell you why with Brian Kenny. Plus,
of course, the guy who has boxing chops will get
his thoughts on the validity of McGregor hopping into the
ring and out of the octagon with Foyd Megweth Brian
Kenny in an hour. Um So, look, there's actually some
interesting stories going on here, and I guess I guess
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I'm gonna jump back into the rabbit hole that is
Colin Kaepernick. I just keep It's like the mafia, right,
I just keep trying to climate. They just just keep
bringing me back in, right, Like I'm trying to go
legitimate and and talk about guys actually playing in the
Nashal Football League, and they just keep bringing So yesterday
there was a a demonstration in front of NFL headquarters
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to bring back Colin Kaepernick. You know, Colin Kaepernick does
not have a place in the league. More than a
thousand people, many wearing jersey's bearing Kaepernick's name, crowded the
streets outside of the NFL's Midtown Manhattan offices. Well, that's
all we need is more traffic in Midtown, I mean
chance of the demonstration included boycott boycott. There's a Reverend
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Jamal Bryant said, how in the world can we call
ourselves the land of the Free, the home of the brave,
and get vilified and criminalized for just speaking your mind.
The NFL has proven their treatment of Colin Kaepernick that
they do not mind if black players get a concussion,
They got a problem if black players get a conscience.
These are strong words and strong statements. But instead of
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going down the rabbit hole of hey, look has been
players demonstrating since Colin Kaepernick, none of them have been cut.
Instead of pointing out that Colin Kaepernick did in fact
opt out of his contract and he would have been
cut from that contract in San Francisco anyway, But he
would have been cut he opted out of the contract
he had, instead of pointing out contact Kaepernick had previously
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lost his job. He hasn't actually been that good since
two thousand and thirteen. Instead, of pointing out that Shady
McCoy running back black running back in the Nashvillotball they can.
I don't know if that actually matters, but in this case,
I guess it does. As much as we were waiting
for NFL players waiting for a a white player to
take a knee, you're also waiting for a black player
to come out and go like, hey, you know, maybe
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it's because Colin Kaepernick is not that good. And that's
what Shady McCoy said. He's like, some of it I
think has to do with the with the protest distraction
that comes to the protest, but a lot of it
is he's just not that good and not good enough
to put up with all the other stuff. August two
thousand seventeen. Lashawn Shady McCoy is the voice of reason,
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is it? No? I think it's twenty five My bad?
That would be my bad. That's Ryan music helped me out.
Good good produce production there. But look, to me, the
smart point to make is this is this really how
con Kaebernick wants to get a job, right? Why do
you guys signed Kaepernick? Oh? He loved them all along?
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What I mean, he loved them all along, you know, Like, wait,
so a thousand people, many of whom have nothing to
do with football, who claim they're gonna boycott it. Like look, everybody,
says everyone, when when you get mad, you'll say anything.
I got my car told from Whole Foods. Now, Whole
Whole Foods overcharges me by at least five dollars every
time they've actually been found to overcharge people, right been
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found to be negligent. They were just bought by Amazon.
So at some point I'll be able to get my
totally organic food without going through my grunge guy who
works at the owner. I got my car towed from
Whole Foods two days ago, and I said this will
be the last time I shop here. Now. I made
sure to say here, meaning this particular Whole Foods. But
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it is kind of a hop, skip and and a
jump from our radio offices. And so while I huff
and puff and pushed out my chest, the fact is,
when push comes to shove and I'm really really hungry
and I want to get something that might actually seem
like even if it's not good for me, I'm gonna
go down and get my Kappa Crazy Feta cheese from
Whole Foods because that's the only place they sell the
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damn stuff. The point is that if there's any real
football fan out there, or even quasi football fan, you're like,
I'm not gonna watch it, Like, okay, either want if
you don't watch football, I I can't really have a
conversation with you, like I don't. I don't watch sports.
Sky is not somebody that I'm gonna hang with anyway.
And a lot of us say we're gonna do it's
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one thing, and the truth is or not. Football's on
what you're gonna tell me you're gonna watch Bachelor in
Paradise mine. But if is this really how Colin Kaepernick
wants to get a job, And by the way, this
only points out why Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job.
It's not hiring him, it's if you don't play him.
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Are they going to be demonstrations? So you're not playing
him because it was protests? And then what if he's
not any good and you want to cut him? You
know they come because of his protests. You know, it's
not it's not how you want to get a gig,
and we as when you work somewhere you don't love
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it when there's nepotism, you know, the owner's son, coach
his son. I was a coach's son growing up playing
basketball my dad always and it was harder to be
a coach's son than it was to be a regular player.
Why because there always are the thought in the backup
teammates had the only reason he's playing, he's because he's
the coach's son. So my it was harder on me
because my dad would be twice as hard on me
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as he would other kids, because he wanted to prove
that he could be harder harder on me he would
be other kids. But just like imagine the mentality of
Colin Kaepernick, who, among other things, he has a sense
of pride, like all of a sudden, the team is
gonna pick up the phone and go like, hey, dude,
you want to come play for us? And whether it's
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real or perception, perception often becomes reality. And he only
got a job after people started to protest who had
nothing to do with football. Do you want to be
that guy? I continue to contend that many of these
people who have the right intentions at heart, all right,
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like it's a good to to rid the world or
to to eliminate as much police brutality as possible. I can't.
That's a pretty good cause, right, There's other causes that
are you know. I mean like I'd like to rid
the world of cancer. Cause my dad to cancer. I'd
like to rid the world of you know, any childhood diseases.
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No kids should ever be sick like. But anything one
human does to another, we can eliminate it or limited.
I'd like to limit racism. And also I like to
eliminate um people will get pulled over shooting cops, empowering criminals, like,
these are all things. But these are these are reasonable causes.
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But when you have unreasonable protests from people who don't
know anything about the sport coming in and saying this
is how do you get vilified and criminalized for speaking
your mind? He wasn't criminalized. Now many criminalized Colin Kaepernick.
He lost his job, He's had injuries. He's a bit
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of an odd fit. He's not the normal personality of
a starting quarterback in the NFL. And yeah, he protested.
And when you're a borderline player and you take a stand, this,
if anything, also points out just how bold to stand
it was. He was risking his job and he did,
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and now he can't get another one. And by crying foul?
Do you think you want to be Why did you
guys signed Colin Kaepernick? Did you sign him because of
the protest? You can say no, we all think otherwise anyway.
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Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. This
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is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're
joined by Steve Farhood, who uh he's been How are
Steve works for for showtime Boxing? Of course, he's the
editor in chief, served as the chief of Ring and
Kao magazines and he joins us here on the Doug
Gotli Show on on Fox Sports Radio. So, look, this
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is what you've done for the better part of your
professional life. You love this sport and it is the
sweet science. And um, the more I've learned about it,
the more I've learned that there is a science to it,
there is a method to it. There are adjustments that
can be made in fight that can help a guy win.
With that in mind, as a boxing aficionado, when you
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see guy has never fought a professional fight before and
is not truly a boxer. Come in and get a title,
get a shot, excuse me, against arguably the greatest pound
from pound fighter in this generation. How does that make
you feel? You know, I don't get angry because the
economics of the situation are what they are. These guys
are making a huge amount of money. There's a obviously
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a tremendous interest in this fight. Otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
So I don't get angry. But I do get angry
about one thing, and I think, as as a top
level athlete yourself, you can appreciate this. No one says
I could walk into a batter's box and hit a fastball.
The average fan doesn't say that. He doesn't say I
can go across the middle and catch a Tom Brady
pass and take a hit from a safety, or I
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can go one on one with Lebron James. No one
says that. Yet everybody seems to think that they can
box because it's so elemental. We all did it, We
all fought at some point in our lives. You've got
a guy who's never fought before stepping into the ring
with the best in the world. You wouldn't see this
in any other sport, and his his fan base thinks
that he has a real chance. The odds and Vegas
have told us that. So I think there's a little
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bit of pressure on Midweather to show that what he
does for a living and what the skills he's mastered
just as specific and just as awesome as the skills
that an A. Rold's Chapman has or Lebron James or
anybody else. I think boxing, the ability the top level
boxers have is sort of not appreciated as much, and
I think despite might show the average fan how good
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these boxes really are. I I kind of I kind
of agree with you by the way that all this
you haven't give another run today Yankees blew and nothing
bad example. You know, he just has not not the
not the Mario. You were better with Mario Rivera than
you were always been with Mario Vera than going uh
Steve Farhood joining us on the doug Otlip Show. Okay,
so um, show me the path, Like, what's the path
to a chance that he that McGregor can win? Like?
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Are you just hoping for the one punch? Was? It
helped me out with this Okay, I have a good
have a very good memory. He was isn't that George
Foreman beat Michael Moore? Wasn't it the one punch? It was?
It isn't it? Isn't that really the hope that he
has that his style is so awkward because it's not conventional.
He's fought against conventional fighters mostly. He never fought against
the guy who holds his hands, who steps and moves
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and punches the way he does. I mean he's still
kind of slap punches. He doesn't doesn't really stab his punches.
That's the hope, right, that it could be the one
punch and then yeah, this is only chance. He's not
gonna have finesse Floyd Mayweather, and the longer the fight goes,
he's not going to be effective for twelve rounds. Remember,
the entire timing of a boxing match is all new
to him. You know, he's used to five round five
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minute rounds, etcetera. Um. For me, this is the best
case scenario for Conor McGregor and for everyone else. Come
out fast, try to win. I think he'll do that
because he's a champion in his own right. What does
go go go for it and try to win me,
and it means throw punches. I don't care what you
look like. I don't care if you hit air, throw punches.
If you get countered, you get tired, you get stopped
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in five rounds. You tried to win. He saves face,
He go back to his world, and unlike Floyd Mayweather,
he has an athletic future because he's only thirty or
whatever he is. Floyd's done, So I think if that happens,
Floyd's happy, he's fifty. And Oh McGregor's happy. He saved face,
he tried to win, and the fans at home who
paid a lot of money on the pay per view
are happy because they were entertained. So that that's the
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perfect scenario. But he's gotta go for it early. You
mentioned fifty and oh and as I mentioned, Steve, you
were the editor in chief of Bring magazine and Ko magazine.
What does it due to his legacy that he's smartly
and financially it's been financially beneficial, But he's smartly manipulated
this thing to He fought Canella before Cannella was ready
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to fight him, and he fought Packyo way after he
should have fought pak Yo and now he's fighting a
non boxer in what would be his fiftieth and final
boxing match, Like, how will that affect how people like you,
true historians of the science view his career. Well, I don't.
I don't rate Floyd Mayweather is one of the greatest
five or six or seven fighters in history. But I
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do think he's an all time right. The reason I
don't rate him as high as fighters from the past
is not even his fault. You can't fight in today's scenario,
in today's boxing world and be and do what you
Sugary Robinson did. Sugary Robinson at one point was one
thirty five and one, and if you look at the
names he fought, he got nothing but great fighters for
years and years and years. Today, if our biggest names
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fight twice in a year, it's a lot. So it's
impossible to accomplish and to build a kind of resume
that the old time fighters did, and that's why they're
rated higher than a Mayweather or at de la Hoya
or whoever you choose to to pick from today's So
it's not really only about Floyd. Look, the most amazing
thing to me about Floyd should he go fifty you know,
is not that he never lost the fight, but that
he won fifty fights, mostly against very high level of
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opponents and only had about two or three close fights.
That's really remarkable. It is really remarkable my idea. And
again I understand that the reality of the fight world
is it's about your promoter. So the Triple G fight
against Canello is what that's Oscar, that's been prot to
by Oscar de Lahoya. This one's a Mayweather Mayweather production,
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and so it could never happen. But for somebody who
loves the sport, and I love my sport of basketball,
I just there's not a celebration of the sport better
than if you had dual main event, the Triple G
fight first into the money Mayweather fight like that would
have been, you know, you would have gotten a legitimate,
great fight too great fighters, and then you would have
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had this I don't know to me that would instead
even don't even have an undercard, you could have charged
whatever you wanted for it. I guess is it just finances.
That's why it will never happen. It's finances, But it's
also the nature of the boxing business. It's it's a sport. Unfortunately,
as great as it is, and when it's good, I
think it's as good as any sport that shoots itself
in the foot all the time. This is for a
hundred some years. You know, it's it's not structured. Will
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that ever be fixed? Because it has it has reappeared
on some network TV you do have. There is But
like I would challenge people, like I'm a sports fan,
I've done this my job for fifteen years. I don't know.
I don't think I know who the heavyweight champion in
the world is. I'm trying to think. I don't know
who the heavy look right, the the cat from Alabama,
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but I don't think he is. Well, Anthony Joshua is
another champ. When you have more than one champion, there's
a problem there, Doug, you know, and that that's the
world we live in. Yeah, I mean, like, but like
we used to have in college football, we have the
A P and the and then the coaches or whatever.
In Georgia Tech in Colorado split one year, but there
was one champion at the end of the year. College football,
they split. But I'm what I'm saying, it's like the
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heavyweight division not having a dominant champion, not having somebody
American worth watching. Whatever forever reason that lost our attention.
I don't know is there any way to get it back. Well,
one thing, we have to understand that the playing field
has changed and it's not about America anymore. That you know,
America dominated the heavyweight division for hundreds something years now,
Anthony Josh was the biggest name in boxing. He drew
ninety people at Wembley Stadium when he fought Klitchko. It's
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not about America anymore, you know. It's it's a big
world out there. Boxing is big in England, it's big
in Germany, uh in other places is and it's not
as big in America. It's been a marginalized sport in America.
So we have to accept the fact that there's a
globalization going on as there is in other sports. You know,
show me outside the William's sisters. Show me an American
female tennis player or or even a male tennis player. No,
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it's it's fasting UFC obviously trying to expand and go
overseas as well. Like that said's the big part of
big part of of their market. Um, what about combat
sports and mm A, how do you view this in
terms of what it will what it could do. If
he gets embarrassed, does it hurt the legitimacy of UFC. Well,
I think there's a good chance he's gonna lose if
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he tries to win again, tries to win, throws a
lot of punches, does what he can do within his
skill set. I don't think he will be embarrassed. I
don't think so. At least maybe the mm A world
will be a little surprised because they seem to think
he has a legitimate chance, But the rest of the
world won't be and it'll be a reconfirmation of boxing
and this skill level that you have to have to
be a top boxer. So I don't think look m
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m A for me, for someone my age, I'm sick
two years old, it's very generational. I find like forty
five and over love boxing. Don't like m m A
younger and not so big on boxing, bigger on mm A.
That needs to change for boxing. I'm not sure how
to do it. But boxing can take a hint from
UFC as to how to promote itself. No question, there's
and there's a little and one of the things that
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has that that boxing and doesn't have is even if
the guys are fighting less often, they fight a little
bit more often, but they also the best guys fight
the best guys more often. Now they it's they've had
trouble building up champions because it also causes them to
lose readily, and they have their own John Jones just
tested Positi for steroids after being declared maybe one of
the all time greats of one fight coming off of
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a cocaine suspensions. Like they got issues, Um, they got
issues of their own. Last thing, Um, I look at
I look at at this fight, and I'm trying to
figure out why the press conference was so subdued, Like
it went from wild almost like a Jerry Springer show
to really he subdued, I guess professional, but a completely
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different tone than every other part of the promotion. And
then you kind of factor in Floyd has said, well,
you know, I'm I'm my forties now I'm not loss
of step. And then the box, the the glove size changing.
I don't know how much that actually a fact fext
thing was was there was that part of the marketing
plan to be so subdued or they bummed out that
there's not gonna be as many people, or the buys,
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the ticket prices, or why do you think it was
so subdued yesterday? Well, I think maybe McGregor has his
game face on and the realization has hit him that
screaming and getting to Floyd's face and everything else was great,
But now there's a fight to be to be had
and to be held, and I think that that's sort
of affected him a little bit. Now. I think Floyd
at the press conference took the lead from McGregor. McGregor
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spoke first, and McGregor was very subdued, as you said,
So Floyd wasn't gonna stock going crazy. You know, there
was nothing to respond to. He wasn't given anything. It's
almost like a counterpuncher needs a punch or two to
give him something to work with. So I was surprised.
This is a pay per view fight. The war buys
there are the more money for those two guys. Um,
they were very subdued, and I'm surprised, But I think
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maybe the realization is set in with Connor McGregor that
it's time to it's time to get game face. Has
Floyd trained well enough to look, you know, to look
like a dominant fighter if challenged well, he's tried to
make it look like he hasn't, but I think that
might have been a marketing ploy. Um. You can only
go by history. Floyd Mayweather has been mentally and physically
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focused for every fight of his life. That's why he's
fourty one at all. That's why he's dominated every opponent with.
Given what he has to lose here and given that
his legacies on the line, because he's fighting a fighter
who is seemingly so inferior, I can't see him not
taking this fully seriously and forty years old, Yes, will
he act as age all of a sudden. That's McGregor's
best chance. You uh, you're you're a historian on this.
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If McGregor wins, how big an upset is it? Well,
the odds would tell you it's not that great an upset.
To me, it's the biggest upset in sports history, no
doubt about it. Steve farrwould so Farhead, Sorry sorry, Steve.
Steve Farhood, who, of course you can see on showtime.
He's been an on air analyst for as long as
I can remember and an absolute historian on the sports. Steve,
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thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Doug. I
appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Speaking of fights,
we need you to break down the Yankees uh Tigers
brawl which went today, which today well will show will
show it to you can see if you like, Gary
Sanchez coming out of the dugout throwing a punch to
mcguelta Hada, who is being held back by somebody else.
I don't want to be the guy having to hold
Aaron Judge. That's that's, that's very very true. Fox Sports
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Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot
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him with a good friend of the program. You'll see
him in the NFL on Fox's coverage also works for
the NFL network. He's Charles Davis. He joins us on
Fox Sports Radio. Charles, You look, you've done this thing
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for a long time, cover the college game, and last
year start back covering the NFL game. Give me your sense.
Have been a lot of talk about Kaepernick off the field,
Kaepernick kneeling. You've watched Kaepernick play, You've evaluated him as
a quarterback. Um, you know, the most people I've talked
to you said, hey, different guys since two thousand and thirteen,
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but there were moments last year in which he looked
closer to that guy. What was your sense when you
watched him last season of his of how viable he
was in the starting quarterback? Yeah, I don't dispute the
evaluation that people have given you, Doug. I think that
they're on track. But I was fortunate enough to be
there for one of those moments that you talked about,
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and you might remember it was it didn't start well
that week because they were they were in Miami to play,
and you remember that with the Castro t shirt and
everything that went along with that. So that wasn't one
of his finer moments as far as the city of
Miami and the Cuban the human nation, we're feeling and
Armando Salgaro, the top beat writer for the Dolphins, wrote
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a scathing column that pointed out a lot of things
that he needed to be aware of us. But on
the field that weekend, he he looked more like the
Colin Kaepernick that we knew from the previous time and
almost rally San Francisco to a win. He got tackled
on the two yard line and things by Kiko Alonso
on the last run, but he played well through it,
well within control. We saw the running game come back
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into play again with it. Things were clicking, things removing. Now,
I don't believe he's the same guy as he was before,
but if you take him, I think that you you
know you know what you're getting and you know what
you'll have to do offensively in order to maximize his skills.
The tough part for him is he's going to become
in as a backup. No one's going to take him
and say I'm going to make you my starter and
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build things around him. So it's got to be a
place where things will be easily accomplished Doug if he
comes into the ball game. That's why I thought Seattle
was absolutely a perfect spot for him. Russell Wilson is different,
but they can adjust that offense very easily to fit
Colin Kaepernick's talents because if you look at the backup
vom Boykin, he's more similar to to Colin Kaepernick in
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that way, although he's not nearly as fast and elusive
as a runner, but not many people are, especially when
you consider the size of Kaepernick. Yeah, so, so why
do you think that didn't like, look, I was told
that Russell Wilson wasn't too hip on the idea of
Kaepernick um. And there is the you know, not that
Russell Wilson's not secure as a starting quarterback, but but
why why wouldn't that happen? And see, I remember that
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it was weird he went there and visited and when
he came out, you know, Pete Carroll said, well, well
we think of him as a starter and we already
have a start. Well that's the case, and why did
you bring him up? Why do you think that didn't
make you know, Doug, if if we followed that line
of what you've heard, and you know, I have nothing
to go off of that, you know, I didn't have
anyone to say that to me. But let's go ahead
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and trace a couple of things, because that's what we do, right.
You remember during that there's still that little bit of
turbulent time about how Russell Wilson is quote unquote accepted.
You know, they're they're always the guys are always happening
to you know it answers about how they feel about
Russell Wilson, Right, you always hearing that. So when you
throw that out there and then you also heard during
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that time a ton of support from that Seattle locker
room about Colin Kaepernick, didn't you, So maybe that had
something to play into it. Maybe there was that. If
indeed that's how Russell felt, I don't know because I
have not talked with him about that, And it just
seemed like there was there was another false start, because
the other false start for me was in Baltimore, and
that one didn't fit as well to me in terms
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of playing style because of what Baltimore does, although it
could all right, he's way different than Joe Flacco and
Ryan Mallin, but because Baltimore likes to run the football,
that's who they are, that's in their DNA, and they've
gotten away from that recently. He would fit again because
he's gonna throw off a heavy play action and all
of that. And you noticed John Hardball seemed to be
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strong for him, as he knew from the GM seemed
to be strong for him. Step Bashadi, it seemed like
it was a bit much to say pray for us.
But I kept reflecting on this guy saying, you know something,
ray lewis than I had Ray Rice. So I don't
know if I want to do this, and I really
believe Doug that this is more coming from the top down.
I think there are some gms. I think there's some
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coaches in the league who would like to bring him in,
but I think the ownership has told them no. And
I will tell you I talked with the GM recently
point blank and said, you know, I don't think you're
backup quarterbacks are that great. And he said, well, we're
very comfortable with what we have. And I said, well,
what about Kaepernick and if they long pause, and then
it was we're very comfortable what we have. Okay, I
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don't know if that's him. It certainly sounds like maybe
there's an heatic from up from up top. So we'll
see how this plays out. It's funny because because because
Charles Davis joining his NFL and Fox, one of the
gms I talked to said, and this was this kind
of reverberated another conversation, said, hey, you know, I think
we brought him in a lot of guys would be
happy about it. It would be championed. Uh. But I
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also think that if you ever decided to cut him
and move on, or you didn't play him and your
starter wasn't that the same amount of support that he
had could then be a little bit more divisive within
the locker room through no fault of Colin's own. Like
his popularity is and slightly polarizing makes it it's harder
to cut him than it is anybody else. And and
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and that's not one to say. It's it's like, it's
really fascinating to watch. That is interesting, and let me
just throw this and throw this actually does Because I
know you're a student of the game in history, think
about Colin Kaepernick and what he's done. And I think
I told you this before. When he first started doing this,
I talked to my dad, okay, who went through civil rights.
My dad played black college football, all right. He was
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a quarterback, so he wasn't going to the so called
white schools. You get the whole idea, right. He told
me that he would start a movement, and I didn't
believe him. My dad hid, hi, Okay, he said, look,
it's not gonna be comfortable. And he said, Colin also
has to be And I remember this as clear asday, said,
Colin Kaepernick also has to be acutely aware and if
he's not, he should be that he may be he
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may give up his own career for his beliefs. And
right now, my dad has really on track about what
he is saying. And to your point about the locker
room cutting him this and that, it's a different style
of when Tim Tebow hit a locker room, isn't it
because people want you know, people like us would go
talk to Tim Tebow after a game and the starter
wouldn't get any play and after a while that that
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wears on the locker room. Like hol said, what about us?
We played, He's not really affecting it what's going on,
and that became an issue for him through Again no
fault of his own. He's just being Tim Tebow. So
it's a different deal in the different style. And I
can hear people screaming, you know, you can't put Kaepernick
and Tebow in the same sentence. Absolutely heard what I said.
You see, it's a little bit different, but can't be
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polarizing in the locker room. He's Charles Davis here in
NFL on Fox. He joins us here on the Doug
Galip Show. Also see him on the NFL network. Um,
rookie quarterbacks are all the rage, right. Everybody wants to
see a kid young kid play and and a lot
of times the guy who they're trying to beat out
does do themselves no favor, like Mike glennan um. Mike
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Glenn is a perfect example that let's start with Mitchell
Trobinsky if you were in that front office, so you're
in that coaches those coaches office. They open up with
the Falcons, the defending NFC champions who have loaded up
on their defensive front. Granted they opened up at home
Falcons at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who everybody believes is
a massively improved team. Then the Steelers, not a great defense,
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but steal the Steelers. Then they go on the road
to the Backers, home to the Vikings, then on the
road at the Ravens, Like what do you how do
you handle the Mitchell the college from Mitchell Trobinsky to
start right away, Well, if they list it's funny, it's
funny you ask. I've got the Bears and Titans this
weekend in the preseason game, and they just announced, was
it yesterday that Trabinsky is going to get run with
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the first unit, probably to start the second half, which
they had not thought that they had not announced that
they were going to do before. Previously it was Mike
Glennon and we'll bring Mitchell a law. They want to
get a look at it. I would dare say that
I would not be shocked if that change is even
in game on Sunday that they move him up and
play him in the first half with the with the ones.
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And if they do that signals to me that they're
gonna try and get him ready to play those games. Look,
the easy thing would be Mike glenn is gonna play
through that that part of the schedule you're talking about.
But if you really believe Trabisky is going to be
your guy, he's got to take some bumps and bruises anyway.
He's not to learn. We've had a number of quarterbacks
have started seasons that were rookies. Jameis Winston did, Mariota
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did the whole deal, and it didn't matter who was
wind up across the field. Kaiser may very well do
that in Cleveland. If they really believe that that he
gives them the best chance and they decided to go
for it early, I say go ahead and play him.
They're gonna to take those ups and downs anyway. I
don't know about the protecting them because I feel like,
you play, you don't plan for three or four games,
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and you put him in, you almost wasted three or
four games because you were going to do it anyway.
I think it's different in Houston with Tom Savage because
it feels like he's ease that job. But I still
think Watson could be viable down the stretch. And Alex
Smith he's gotta win some big games because Patchel Mahomes
is coming. Yeah, the Mahomes thing. And I talked to
some guys about Mahomes and you saw him a bunch
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of college so did I. I mean, look, he's just
got more armed talent, more athletic talent than than Alex
Smith does. But he there's so many other little things
that he doesn't get to know. Yeah, and Donny's got
to learn. But but you know, Doug, you know the
reason that they moved up to thirteen or whatever number
it was to get him. Um. I firmly believe, and
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I haven't sat down with Andy Reid or you know,
any of the front office, but I firmly believe that
that Pittsburgh playoff game where they lost at home and
did not give up a touchdown got beat by field goals.
I think that that was the real impetus for this thing,
because you can't be in that position where your quarterback
doesn't take that shot sometimes to stick that bad boy
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in the end zone. Alex Smith's gonna take care of
the ball, gonna be great that. I think a lot
of times he catches more black than he should, but
the ball doesn't get downfield very often. There's no arguing
or disputing that Mahomes is going to do that. Now
you're gonna come. As you said, there's plenty of mistakes
that may come with it. But I think they drafted
him to win those types of games later because sometimes
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you have to take the shot. Sometimes you've got you
can't just play it safe all the time. Third and
seven and defense gives you six. You can't take six
third and seven. You've gotta take eight somehow, And that's
what Mahomes gives you an opportunity to do. And I
think Watson also has that potential in him as well.
Charles Davis joining us NFL on Fox Analysts also you
see him on the NFL network. You mentioned you're preparing
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for Bears versus Titans. A lot of buzz about about
Jamis and what he's been able to do in Tampa.
What about Mariota. Part of it is it's Nashville. We
don't cover a lot, but it feels like he's ready
to take that next step. But that's not The guys
have watched him on tape. You have you're getting ready
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for the game. Where is Mariota as a pro quarterback?
He is ready to take the next step and they
drafted accordingly to try and help him do that. I
don't know. Corey Davis the number one pick, and then
they took a number five. Why would say about Western Michigan.
Don't know when he will be ready. They're pushing to
try and have him ready for the season opener. It
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maybe later, we'll see, but he hasn't He hasn't worked
out in the camp. But Taijuan Taylor from Western Kentucky
has come on and played well for them. Gives him
more speed in the lineup and a tight end named
John hu Smith from Florida International. When you pair him
with Delaney Walker, now you have more to more speed
in the game, more options again tight ends, but more
like you know big wide receivers would get down field.
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They're trying their best to increase those weapons because they're
going to run the heck out of it. Does you
know that they're a smash mouth team to to quote
a to quote an overused phrase, but they need something extra.
They need to really be able to sting people down field,
make them pay for the eight people in the box.
That's what Corey Davis was drafted for. That's what Taywan
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Taylor was drafted for. That's what john Us Smith was
drafted for. They're surrounding him with those people. The offensive
lines back attack on invest in football and I've watched
him this summer. I do their preseason package. He has
grown as a quarterback from year two to year three.
Has helped his back. He moves around well, he knows
how to get rid of the balls and lived to
fight another down. I think also the ability to throw
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it downfield will continue to increase. I think he's ready
to take a jump. I know, uh, I know that
Cam didn't play last week when you called that game,
Christian McCaffrey did, but you talked to everybody in the
league and you've covered Cam enough. Look, he's coming back
tonight from shoulder surgery and anytime you say, shoulder surgery.
He Andrew Luck both kind of uh coming off his
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shoulder injuries. It makes anyone queasy about a star quarterback.
But there are parts of his play last year which
were very uneven and there wasn't the evolution from Cam
Newton coming off the m v P to take a
step to being a consider Ston, Domond and passion. Now, look,
their line was as good, the running game was good,
the defense, sure as heck, wasn't as good, and he
had to do more. What are your thoughts on Cam
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Newton and how we should evaluate Newton tonight and Newton
had in the end of the season. I'll make this
one quicker than normal. Ron Rivera said at the end
of last year, said it to me as I prepared
for a broadcast, said, it's the media in Carolina that
Cam would have to evolve similar to how Big Ben
evolved where he doesn't take so many hits in the pocket.
You remember that, Doug, there's a big discussion about that.
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When Ron said that to me on the phone, I said, coach,
quick question, have you talked to Cam about this? And
he said he just guy Chuckling went no, not yet,
but you know we'll be getting into in the off
season the whole deal. Well, fast forward to this year.
They draft McCaffrey right, they draft Curtis Samuel, They bring
in Matt Khalil to play left tackle. They draft Taylor
Moton to play right tackle or guard, depending on how
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they want to utilize him. They've tried to increase that
and what they've told him essentially with that raft was,
let's get rid of the ball faster, camp. Let's get
into the hands of these guys. Let's not take as
many hits, but maybe we'll cut you down on the
running game, not totally out of it, but let's not
make you a primary third and two guys, do you
remember Cam's first press conferences camp, Remember what they said,
what he said when they asked him about you know
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all those things. Well, you know, Allion's got a roar.
So if they if he's not willing to make the
step to change, that's where things are going to get
interacting because they've done all the right things for him. Look,
I watched him throw last week. He didn't throw a
sun to during practice, but I think he's on track.
They're just being cautious with him and smart because maybe
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they got over extended early. I think he plays up
to twenty plays tonight, Doug. I think he takes it,
you know, I think he takes a shot downfield and
make sure the arms Okay, I think you know. I
doubt that they use him in the run game. But
after that we'll see him for the season opener. But
if he'll use those weapons around him now and adapt
to what they're going to do offensively that Mike Schuler
is going to call, I think we can see Cam
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be closer to what we saw in the m v
P year without him being as much of a primary
ball carrier. But he's got to take those easy completions.
Take him and up your percentage last year too and
took way too many hits. You're rid of the ball.
Don't take the hit. I know you're Superman, but even
Superman has and kryptonite. In the NFL, it's called a
pass rush. Yeah, well, listen, he needs to needs to
(37:20):
take on that Rocky Balboa from Rocky for mentality conchange
loose contangs. It was always conchanged, Yeah he was. He
was probably concussed, maybe not. Um, Charles, look forward to
hearing you on the call, and I can't wait to
talk more with you getting ready for the NFL season.
Thanks so much of me our guests. As always, thanks
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a lot for having me. Doug always create a talk
with you. Take care of yourself. Hope you're enjoyed being
back home in Cali. I am. It's Charles Davis. Of course,
he's back home covering the Tennessee Titans played at ut
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the I Heart Radio app. There are three types of
(38:03):
people in watching sports injuries. There is I don't ever
want to see it. I don't want to see it.
That that's that's guy one. Guy too is I want
to see it once so I can catalog it in
my memory bank. Just I need to. Okay, I saw,
I saw it. I'm good. I'm good. And then there
is guy three who I oh God, I saw blind
(38:28):
that I gotta watch. Ah. Is there another who watched
Paul George break his leg at U and LV like
fifteen times, then sent it to all his buddies and
had them watch it fifteen times. Dan Buyer, what kind
of guy are you I'm I can't watch it. Guy.
You never watch it. And my wife, My wife is
(38:48):
the opposite. She can watch that and see it and goes,
oh my gosh, but I'm I can't watch it. Okay,
John Ramos, what kind of guy are you? I like
to watch it. I'm the kind of guy who goes, oh,
let's see the out again? Yeah, almost Ryan Music, which
are you? I'm in the middle. I'm the guy who's okay.
I can see Paul George break his leg once so
(39:09):
I can take in what happened. But after that, I'm good.
I don't need to watch it anymore. I just need
to see it once. I am with John Ramos, I
can't get enough. I can't get enough of sports injuries,
watching dudes break their legs in half, you know, Like, um,
I bring that up because look, I don't want anyone
(39:29):
to die in the ring, Okay. I don't want anybody
to die, and I don't want Conn McGregor to die
at the hands of Floyd Mayweather. But if he does die,
I want to be watching it at the time because
I don't want people to go like, oh my god,
did you see that he actually died? Like, no way
watch it like I want to be like the last
guy to know. So I'm admitting. Look, I'm just admitting
(39:51):
that there's that part of my brain that I don't
I really really don't like. Look. I'd like to see him.
I'd like to see him look bad, because I do
think it it minimizes um our kind of romantic belief
in how skillful you have to be, how long it
takes to become a great boxer. But I don't want
(40:13):
him to die. Um. This is really interesting, and it
was in the New York Times earlier today. Apparently there's
a bunch of uh, there's a hundred ringside doctors who's
there's a group of more than a hundred ringside doctors
whose members, for decades of experience, have worked hundreds of
major bouts in New York, Nevada and other jurisdictions. Arguing
(40:36):
that Connor McGregor, mixed martial arts champion who'll be fighting
his first professional about his overmatched by Floyd Mayweather's forty
nine considered the best boxer of his generation. Quote, we
were very surprised as about was even sanctioned and was
going to be permitted to carry on. Larry Lovelace a
doctor in the president of the organization, which is focused
on preserving fighter safety. Like fighter safety is kind of like, uh,
(41:00):
kind of like civil war, right, Like are you really
that's safe if you're going in there to get your
head tattered by another man? But nonetheless, quote the thing
I really fear, truly fear, is that somebody's gonna really
get hurt in this upcoming fight. I don't want anybody
getting hurt, but if they do get hurt, I want
to I want to be the one watching it. And
I actually think that. Um. I remember in in June,
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Tim Haig, thirty four mixed martial arts MRS martial artist
turned boxers, sustained fatal injuries during about against Adam Braidwood
in Edmonton, Alberta. It was Haig's fourth pro boxing match
after competing in thirty four mm A fights. So he's
doctor and look, doctors do that. They're extra cautious. You know,
you sprain an ankle and the doctors like, oh, you
(41:42):
gotta be on crutches for a month. I know people
who have women who have gotten a c section, they're
up not just walking around but working out in the
first couple of weeks, like it's supposed to be six
to eight weeks before you do anything. On the other hand,
doctors sitting there going like, hey, you know, we we
clear these five This does not seem like a good idea,
and there is precedent for a mixed martial artist actually
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getting killed in the ring. The problem with it is,
and while this points out how big a farce this
fight could be, it makes me want to watch the
fight more. I'm sorry that it makes me want to
watch the fight more so that something does happen. I
see it, and then I could go to find somewhere
and rewind it and watch it again, and watch it again,
(42:25):
and watch it again. Don't hate me, because I'm honest.
This is the best of the dun got Leap Show
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of Mayweather McGregor. Might be a sham, It might it
might be another con or it might be the upset
(00:21):
we have been waiting for in UH in collegian sports,
like a sixteen taking down a one right of one double,
a FCS taking down an FBS. It it might be,
or it might be a complete waste of time. I
don't know. We'll find out Saturday night. Will continue to
bring you some of the voices that will be covering it,
and of course we'll be covering the rest of the
(00:42):
world of sports today on the Doug gott Leap Show.
Charles Davis gonna join this upcoming fifteen minutes NFL on
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Dak Prescott, second year quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers, in the elite
quarterback territory, the quarterback Here's lots of talk about with
Charles Davis will join us in fifteen minutes. Brian Kenny
(01:04):
will join us in an hour. Um He is a
Baseball savant working for the MLB Network. Not sure if
you saw how the Pirates beat the Dodgers in ten
innings Rich Hill and no hitter was wiped out with
one swing of the bat. Crazy stuff, crazy stuff last night,
and Gary Sanchez with the Yankees continues to cement himself
(01:24):
as Mr August. We'll tell you why with Brian Kenny. Plus,
of course, the guy who has boxing chops will get
his thoughts on the validity of McGregor hopping into the
ring and out of the octagon with Foyd Megweth Brian
Kenny in an hour. Um So, look, there's actually some
interesting stories going on here, and I guess I guess
(01:47):
I'm gonna jump back into the rabbit hole that is
Colin Kaepernick. I just keep It's like the mafia, right,
I just keep trying to climate. They just just keep
bringing me back in, right, Like I'm trying to go
legitimate and and talk about guys actually playing in the
Nashal Football League, and they just keep bringing So yesterday
there was a a demonstration in front of NFL headquarters
(02:11):
to bring back Colin Kaepernick. You know, Colin Kaepernick does
not have a place in the league. More than a
thousand people, many wearing jersey's bearing Kaepernick's name, crowded the
streets outside of the NFL's Midtown Manhattan offices. Well, that's
all we need is more traffic in Midtown, I mean
chance of the demonstration included boycott boycott. There's a Reverend
(02:35):
Jamal Bryant said, how in the world can we call
ourselves the land of the Free, the home of the brave,
and get vilified and criminalized for just speaking your mind.
The NFL has proven their treatment of Colin Kaepernick that
they do not mind if black players get a concussion,
They got a problem if black players get a conscience.
These are strong words and strong statements. But instead of
(02:57):
going down the rabbit hole of hey, look has been
players demonstrating since Colin Kaepernick, none of them have been cut.
Instead of pointing out that Colin Kaepernick did in fact
opt out of his contract and he would have been
cut from that contract in San Francisco anyway, But he
would have been cut he opted out of the contract
he had, instead of pointing out contact Kaepernick had previously
(03:20):
lost his job. He hasn't actually been that good since
two thousand and thirteen. Instead, of pointing out that Shady
McCoy running back black running back in the Nashvillotball they can.
I don't know if that actually matters, but in this case,
I guess it does. As much as we were waiting
for NFL players waiting for a a white player to
take a knee, you're also waiting for a black player
to come out and go like, hey, you know, maybe
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it's because Colin Kaepernick is not that good. And that's
what Shady McCoy said. He's like, some of it I
think has to do with the with the protest distraction
that comes to the protest, but a lot of it
is he's just not that good and not good enough
to put up with all the other stuff. August two
thousand seventeen. Lashawn Shady McCoy is the voice of reason,
(04:03):
is it? No? I think it's twenty five My bad?
That would be my bad. That's Ryan music helped me out.
Good good produce production there. But look, to me, the
smart point to make is this is this really how
con Kaebernick wants to get a job, right? Why do
you guys signed Kaepernick? Oh? He loved them all along?
(04:25):
What I mean, he loved them all along, you know, Like, wait,
so a thousand people, many of whom have nothing to
do with football, who claim they're gonna boycott it. Like look, everybody,
says everyone, when when you get mad, you'll say anything.
I got my car told from Whole Foods. Now, Whole
Whole Foods overcharges me by at least five dollars every
time they've actually been found to overcharge people, right been
(04:50):
found to be negligent. They were just bought by Amazon.
So at some point I'll be able to get my
totally organic food without going through my grunge guy who
works at the owner. I got my car towed from
Whole Foods two days ago, and I said this will
be the last time I shop here. Now. I made
sure to say here, meaning this particular Whole Foods. But
(05:11):
it is kind of a hop, skip and and a
jump from our radio offices. And so while I huff
and puff and pushed out my chest, the fact is,
when push comes to shove and I'm really really hungry
and I want to get something that might actually seem
like even if it's not good for me, I'm gonna
go down and get my Kappa Crazy Feta cheese from
Whole Foods because that's the only place they sell the
(05:32):
damn stuff. The point is that if there's any real
football fan out there, or even quasi football fan, you're like,
I'm not gonna watch it, Like, okay, either want if
you don't watch football, I I can't really have a
conversation with you, like I don't. I don't watch sports.
Sky is not somebody that I'm gonna hang with anyway.
And a lot of us say we're gonna do it's
(05:52):
one thing, and the truth is or not. Football's on
what you're gonna tell me you're gonna watch Bachelor in
Paradise mine. But if is this really how Colin Kaepernick
wants to get a job, And by the way, this
only points out why Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job.
It's not hiring him, it's if you don't play him.
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Are they going to be demonstrations? So you're not playing
him because it was protests? And then what if he's
not any good and you want to cut him? You
know they come because of his protests. You know, it's
not it's not how you want to get a gig,
and we as when you work somewhere you don't love
(06:35):
it when there's nepotism, you know, the owner's son, coach
his son. I was a coach's son growing up playing
basketball my dad always and it was harder to be
a coach's son than it was to be a regular player.
Why because there always are the thought in the backup
teammates had the only reason he's playing, he's because he's
the coach's son. So my it was harder on me
because my dad would be twice as hard on me
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as he would other kids, because he wanted to prove
that he could be harder harder on me he would
be other kids. But just like imagine the mentality of
Colin Kaepernick, who, among other things, he has a sense
of pride, like all of a sudden, the team is
gonna pick up the phone and go like, hey, dude,
you want to come play for us? And whether it's
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real or perception, perception often becomes reality. And he only
got a job after people started to protest who had
nothing to do with football. Do you want to be
that guy? I continue to contend that many of these
people who have the right intentions at heart, all right,
(07:37):
like it's a good to to rid the world or
to to eliminate as much police brutality as possible. I can't.
That's a pretty good cause, right, There's other causes that
are you know. I mean like I'd like to rid
the world of cancer. Cause my dad to cancer. I'd
like to rid the world of you know, any childhood diseases.
(07:58):
No kids should ever be sick like. But anything one
human does to another, we can eliminate it or limited.
I'd like to limit racism. And also I like to
eliminate um people will get pulled over shooting cops, empowering criminals, like,
these are all things. But these are these are reasonable causes.
(08:18):
But when you have unreasonable protests from people who don't
know anything about the sport coming in and saying this
is how do you get vilified and criminalized for speaking
your mind? He wasn't criminalized. Now many criminalized Colin Kaepernick.
He lost his job, He's had injuries. He's a bit
(08:41):
of an odd fit. He's not the normal personality of
a starting quarterback in the NFL. And yeah, he protested.
And when you're a borderline player and you take a stand, this,
if anything, also points out just how bold to stand
it was. He was risking his job and he did,
(09:01):
and now he can't get another one. And by crying foul?
Do you think you want to be Why did you
guys signed Colin Kaepernick? Did you sign him because of
the protest? You can say no, we all think otherwise anyway.
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Gotli Show on on Fox Sports Radio. So, look, this
(09:44):
is what you've done for the better part of your
professional life. You love this sport and it is the
sweet science. And um, the more I've learned about it,
the more I've learned that there is a science to it,
there is a method to it. There are adjustments that
can be made in fight that can help a guy win.
With that in mind, as a boxing aficionado, when you
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see guy has never fought a professional fight before and
is not truly a boxer. Come in and get a title,
get a shot, excuse me, against arguably the greatest pound
from pound fighter in this generation. How does that make
you feel? You know, I don't get angry because the
economics of the situation are what they are. These guys
are making a huge amount of money. There's a obviously
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a tremendous interest in this fight. Otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
So I don't get angry. But I do get angry
about one thing, and I think, as as a top
level athlete yourself, you can appreciate this. No one says
I could walk into a batter's box and hit a fastball.
The average fan doesn't say that. He doesn't say I
can go across the middle and catch a Tom Brady
pass and take a hit from a safety, or I
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can go one on one with Lebron James. No one
says that. Yet everybody seems to think that they can
box because it's so elemental. We all did it, We
all fought at some point in our lives. You've got
a guy who's never fought before stepping into the ring
with the best in the world. You wouldn't see this
in any other sport, and his his fan base thinks
that he has a real chance. The odds and Vegas
have told us that. So I think there's a little
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bit of pressure on Midweather to show that what he
does for a living and what the skills he's mastered
just as specific and just as awesome as the skills
that an A. Rold's Chapman has or Lebron James or
anybody else. I think boxing, the ability the top level
boxers have is sort of not appreciated as much, and
I think despite might show the average fan how good
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these boxes really are. I I kind of I kind
of agree with you by the way that all this
you haven't give another run today Yankees blew and nothing
bad example. You know, he just has not not the
not the Mario. You were better with Mario Rivera than
you were always been with Mario Vera than going uh
Steve Farhood joining us on the doug Otlip Show. Okay,
so um, show me the path, Like, what's the path
to a chance that he that McGregor can win? Like?
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Are you just hoping for the one punch? Was? It
helped me out with this Okay, I have a good
have a very good memory. He was isn't that George
Foreman beat Michael Moore? Wasn't it the one punch? It was?
It isn't it? Isn't that really the hope that he
has that his style is so awkward because it's not conventional.
He's fought against conventional fighters mostly. He never fought against
the guy who holds his hands, who steps and moves
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and punches the way he does. I mean he's still
kind of slap punches. He doesn't doesn't really stab his punches.
That's the hope, right, that it could be the one
punch and then yeah, this is only chance. He's not
gonna have finesse Floyd Mayweather, and the longer the fight goes,
he's not going to be effective for twelve rounds. Remember,
the entire timing of a boxing match is all new
to him. You know, he's used to five round five
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minute rounds, etcetera. Um. For me, this is the best
case scenario for Conor McGregor and for everyone else. Come
out fast, try to win. I think he'll do that
because he's a champion in his own right. What does
go go go for it and try to win me,
and it means throw punches. I don't care what you
look like. I don't care if you hit air, throw punches.
If you get countered, you get tired, you get stopped
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in five rounds. You tried to win. He saves face,
He go back to his world, and unlike Floyd Mayweather,
he has an athletic future because he's only thirty or
whatever he is. Floyd's done, So I think if that happens,
Floyd's happy, he's fifty. And Oh McGregor's happy. He saved face,
he tried to win, and the fans at home who
paid a lot of money on the pay per view
are happy because they were entertained. So that that's the
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perfect scenario. But he's gotta go for it early. You
mentioned fifty and oh and as I mentioned, Steve, you
were the editor in chief of Bring magazine and Ko magazine.
What does it due to his legacy that he's smartly
and financially it's been financially beneficial, But he's smartly manipulated
this thing to He fought Canella before Cannella was ready
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to fight him, and he fought Packyo way after he
should have fought pak Yo and now he's fighting a
non boxer in what would be his fiftieth and final
boxing match, Like, how will that affect how people like you,
true historians of the science view his career. Well, I don't.
I don't rate Floyd Mayweather is one of the greatest
five or six or seven fighters in history. But I
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do think he's an all time right. The reason I
don't rate him as high as fighters from the past
is not even his fault. You can't fight in today's scenario,
in today's boxing world and be and do what you
Sugary Robinson did. Sugary Robinson at one point was one
thirty five and one, and if you look at the
names he fought, he got nothing but great fighters for
years and years and years. Today, if our biggest names
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fight twice in a year, it's a lot. So it's
impossible to accomplish and to build a kind of resume
that the old time fighters did, and that's why they're
rated higher than a Mayweather or at de la Hoya
or whoever you choose to to pick from today's So
it's not really only about Floyd. Look, the most amazing
thing to me about Floyd should he go fifty you know,
is not that he never lost the fight, but that
he won fifty fights, mostly against very high level of
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opponents and only had about two or three close fights.
That's really remarkable. It is really remarkable my idea. And
again I understand that the reality of the fight world
is it's about your promoter. So the Triple G fight
against Canello is what that's Oscar, that's been prot to
by Oscar de Lahoya. This one's a Mayweather Mayweather production,
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and so it could never happen. But for somebody who
loves the sport, and I love my sport of basketball,
I just there's not a celebration of the sport better
than if you had dual main event, the Triple G
fight first into the money Mayweather fight like that would
have been, you know, you would have gotten a legitimate,
great fight too great fighters, and then you would have
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had this I don't know to me that would instead
even don't even have an undercard, you could have charged
whatever you wanted for it. I guess is it just finances.
That's why it will never happen. It's finances, But it's
also the nature of the boxing business. It's it's a sport. Unfortunately,
as great as it is, and when it's good, I
think it's as good as any sport that shoots itself
in the foot all the time. This is for a
hundred some years. You know, it's it's not structured. Will
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that ever be fixed? Because it has it has reappeared
on some network TV you do have. There is But
like I would challenge people, like I'm a sports fan,
I've done this my job for fifteen years. I don't know.
I don't think I know who the heavyweight champion in
the world is. I'm trying to think. I don't know
who the heavy look right, the the cat from Alabama,
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but I don't think he is. Well, Anthony Joshua is
another champ. When you have more than one champion, there's
a problem there, Doug, you know, and that that's the
world we live in. Yeah, I mean, like, but like
we used to have in college football, we have the
A P and the and then the coaches or whatever.
In Georgia Tech in Colorado split one year, but there
was one champion at the end of the year. College football,
they split. But I'm what I'm saying, it's like the
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heavyweight division not having a dominant champion, not having somebody
American worth watching. Whatever forever reason that lost our attention.
I don't know is there any way to get it back. Well,
one thing, we have to understand that the playing field
has changed and it's not about America anymore. That you know,
America dominated the heavyweight division for hundreds something years now,
Anthony Josh was the biggest name in boxing. He drew
ninety people at Wembley Stadium when he fought Klitchko. It's
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not about America anymore, you know. It's it's a big
world out there. Boxing is big in England, it's big
in Germany, uh in other places is and it's not
as big in America. It's been a marginalized sport in America.
So we have to accept the fact that there's a
globalization going on as there is in other sports. You know,
show me outside the William's sisters. Show me an American
female tennis player or or even a male tennis player. No,
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it's it's fasting UFC obviously trying to expand and go
overseas as well. Like that said's the big part of
big part of of their market. Um, what about combat
sports and mm A, how do you view this in
terms of what it will what it could do. If
he gets embarrassed, does it hurt the legitimacy of UFC. Well,
I think there's a good chance he's gonna lose if
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he tries to win again, tries to win, throws a
lot of punches, does what he can do within his
skill set. I don't think he will be embarrassed. I
don't think so. At least maybe the mm A world
will be a little surprised because they seem to think
he has a legitimate chance, But the rest of the
world won't be and it'll be a reconfirmation of boxing
and this skill level that you have to have to
be a top boxer. So I don't think look m
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m A for me, for someone my age, I'm sick
two years old, it's very generational. I find like forty
five and over love boxing. Don't like m m A
younger and not so big on boxing, bigger on mm A.
That needs to change for boxing. I'm not sure how
to do it. But boxing can take a hint from
UFC as to how to promote itself. No question, there's
and there's a little and one of the things that
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has that that boxing and doesn't have is even if
the guys are fighting less often, they fight a little
bit more often, but they also the best guys fight
the best guys more often. Now they it's they've had
trouble building up champions because it also causes them to
lose readily, and they have their own John Jones just
tested Positi for steroids after being declared maybe one of
the all time greats of one fight coming off of
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a cocaine suspensions. Like they got issues, Um, they got
issues of their own. Last thing, Um, I look at
I look at at this fight, and I'm trying to
figure out why the press conference was so subdued, Like
it went from wild almost like a Jerry Springer show
to really he subdued, I guess professional, but a completely
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different tone than every other part of the promotion. And
then you kind of factor in Floyd has said, well,
you know, I'm I'm my forties now I'm not loss
of step. And then the box, the the glove size changing.
I don't know how much that actually a fact fext
thing was was there was that part of the marketing
plan to be so subdued or they bummed out that
there's not gonna be as many people, or the buys,
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the ticket prices, or why do you think it was
so subdued yesterday? Well, I think maybe McGregor has his
game face on and the realization has hit him that
screaming and getting to Floyd's face and everything else was great,
But now there's a fight to be to be had
and to be held, and I think that that's sort
of affected him a little bit. Now. I think Floyd
at the press conference took the lead from McGregor. McGregor
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spoke first, and McGregor was very subdued, as you said,
So Floyd wasn't gonna stock going crazy. You know, there
was nothing to respond to. He wasn't given anything. It's
almost like a counterpuncher needs a punch or two to
give him something to work with. So I was surprised.
This is a pay per view fight. The war buys
there are the more money for those two guys. Um,
they were very subdued, and I'm surprised, But I think
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maybe the realization is set in with Connor McGregor that
it's time to it's time to get game face. Has
Floyd trained well enough to look, you know, to look
like a dominant fighter if challenged well, he's tried to
make it look like he hasn't, but I think that
might have been a marketing ploy. Um. You can only
go by history. Floyd Mayweather has been mentally and physically
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focused for every fight of his life. That's why he's
fourty one at all. That's why he's dominated every opponent with.
Given what he has to lose here and given that
his legacies on the line, because he's fighting a fighter
who is seemingly so inferior, I can't see him not
taking this fully seriously and forty years old, Yes, will
he act as age all of a sudden. That's McGregor's
best chance. You uh, you're you're a historian on this.
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If McGregor wins, how big an upset is it? Well,
the odds would tell you it's not that great an upset.
To me, it's the biggest upset in sports history, no
doubt about it. Steve farrwould so Farhead, Sorry sorry, Steve.
Steve Farhood, who, of course you can see on showtime.
He's been an on air analyst for as long as
I can remember and an absolute historian on the sports. Steve,
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thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Doug. I
appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Speaking of fights,
we need you to break down the Yankees uh Tigers
brawl which went today, which today well will show will
show it to you can see if you like, Gary
Sanchez coming out of the dugout throwing a punch to
mcguelta Hada, who is being held back by somebody else.
I don't want to be the guy having to hold
Aaron Judge. That's that's, that's very very true. Fox Sports
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Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot
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him with a good friend of the program. You'll see
him in the NFL on Fox's coverage also works for
the NFL network. He's Charles Davis. He joins us on
Fox Sports Radio. Charles, You look, you've done this thing
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for a long time, cover the college game, and last
year start back covering the NFL game. Give me your sense.
Have been a lot of talk about Kaepernick off the field,
Kaepernick kneeling. You've watched Kaepernick play, You've evaluated him as
a quarterback. Um, you know, the most people I've talked
to you said, hey, different guys since two thousand and thirteen,
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but there were moments last year in which he looked
closer to that guy. What was your sense when you
watched him last season of his of how viable he
was in the starting quarterback? Yeah, I don't dispute the
evaluation that people have given you, Doug. I think that
they're on track. But I was fortunate enough to be
there for one of those moments that you talked about,
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and you might remember it was it didn't start well
that week because they were they were in Miami to play,
and you remember that with the Castro t shirt and
everything that went along with that. So that wasn't one
of his finer moments as far as the city of
Miami and the Cuban the human nation, we're feeling and
Armando Salgaro, the top beat writer for the Dolphins, wrote
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a scathing column that pointed out a lot of things
that he needed to be aware of us. But on
the field that weekend, he he looked more like the
Colin Kaepernick that we knew from the previous time and
almost rally San Francisco to a win. He got tackled
on the two yard line and things by Kiko Alonso
on the last run, but he played well through it,
well within control. We saw the running game come back
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into play again with it. Things were clicking, things removing. Now,
I don't believe he's the same guy as he was before,
but if you take him, I think that you you
know you know what you're getting and you know what
you'll have to do offensively in order to maximize his skills.
The tough part for him is he's going to become
in as a backup. No one's going to take him
and say I'm going to make you my starter and
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build things around him. So it's got to be a
place where things will be easily accomplished Doug if he
comes into the ball game. That's why I thought Seattle
was absolutely a perfect spot for him. Russell Wilson is different,
but they can adjust that offense very easily to fit
Colin Kaepernick's talents because if you look at the backup
vom Boykin, he's more similar to to Colin Kaepernick in
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that way, although he's not nearly as fast and elusive
as a runner, but not many people are, especially when
you consider the size of Kaepernick. Yeah, so, so why
do you think that didn't like, look, I was told
that Russell Wilson wasn't too hip on the idea of
Kaepernick um. And there is the you know, not that
Russell Wilson's not secure as a starting quarterback, but but
why why wouldn't that happen? And see, I remember that
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it was weird he went there and visited and when
he came out, you know, Pete Carroll said, well, well
we think of him as a starter and we already
have a start. Well that's the case, and why did
you bring him up? Why do you think that didn't
make you know, Doug, if if we followed that line
of what you've heard, and you know, I have nothing
to go off of that, you know, I didn't have
anyone to say that to me. But let's go ahead
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and trace a couple of things, because that's what we do, right.
You remember during that there's still that little bit of
turbulent time about how Russell Wilson is quote unquote accepted.
You know, they're they're always the guys are always happening
to you know it answers about how they feel about
Russell Wilson, Right, you always hearing that. So when you
throw that out there and then you also heard during
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that time a ton of support from that Seattle locker
room about Colin Kaepernick, didn't you, So maybe that had
something to play into it. Maybe there was that. If
indeed that's how Russell felt, I don't know because I
have not talked with him about that, And it just
seemed like there was there was another false start, because
the other false start for me was in Baltimore, and
that one didn't fit as well to me in terms
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of playing style because of what Baltimore does, although it
could all right, he's way different than Joe Flacco and
Ryan Mallin, but because Baltimore likes to run the football,
that's who they are, that's in their DNA, and they've
gotten away from that recently. He would fit again because
he's gonna throw off a heavy play action and all
of that. And you noticed John Hardball seemed to be
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strong for him, as he knew from the GM seemed
to be strong for him. Step Bashadi, it seemed like
it was a bit much to say pray for us.
But I kept reflecting on this guy saying, you know something,
ray lewis than I had Ray Rice. So I don't
know if I want to do this, and I really
believe Doug that this is more coming from the top down.
I think there are some gms. I think there's some
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coaches in the league who would like to bring him in,
but I think the ownership has told them no. And
I will tell you I talked with the GM recently
point blank and said, you know, I don't think you're
backup quarterbacks are that great. And he said, well, we're
very comfortable with what we have. And I said, well,
what about Kaepernick and if they long pause, and then
it was we're very comfortable what we have. Okay, I
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don't know if that's him. It certainly sounds like maybe
there's an heatic from up from up top. So we'll
see how this plays out. It's funny because because because
Charles Davis joining his NFL and Fox, one of the
gms I talked to said, and this was this kind
of reverberated another conversation, said, hey, you know, I think
we brought him in a lot of guys would be
happy about it. It would be championed. Uh. But I
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also think that if you ever decided to cut him
and move on, or you didn't play him and your
starter wasn't that the same amount of support that he
had could then be a little bit more divisive within
the locker room through no fault of Colin's own. Like
his popularity is and slightly polarizing makes it it's harder
to cut him than it is anybody else. And and
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and that's not one to say. It's it's like, it's
really fascinating to watch. That is interesting, and let me
just throw this and throw this actually does Because I
know you're a student of the game in history, think
about Colin Kaepernick and what he's done. And I think
I told you this before. When he first started doing this,
I talked to my dad, okay, who went through civil rights.
My dad played black college football, all right. He was
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a quarterback, so he wasn't going to the so called
white schools. You get the whole idea, right. He told
me that he would start a movement, and I didn't
believe him. My dad hid, hi, Okay, he said, look,
it's not gonna be comfortable. And he said, Colin also
has to be And I remember this as clear asday, said,
Colin Kaepernick also has to be acutely aware and if
he's not, he should be that he may be he
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may give up his own career for his beliefs. And
right now, my dad has really on track about what
he is saying. And to your point about the locker
room cutting him this and that, it's a different style
of when Tim Tebow hit a locker room, isn't it
because people want you know, people like us would go
talk to Tim Tebow after a game and the starter
wouldn't get any play and after a while that that
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wears on the locker room. Like hol said, what about us?
We played, He's not really affecting it what's going on,
and that became an issue for him through Again no
fault of his own. He's just being Tim Tebow. So
it's a different deal in the different style. And I
can hear people screaming, you know, you can't put Kaepernick
and Tebow in the same sentence. Absolutely heard what I said.
You see, it's a little bit different, but can't be
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polarizing in the locker room. He's Charles Davis here in
NFL on Fox. He joins us here on the Doug
Galip Show. Also see him on the NFL network. Um,
rookie quarterbacks are all the rage, right. Everybody wants to
see a kid young kid play and and a lot
of times the guy who they're trying to beat out
does do themselves no favor, like Mike glennan um. Mike
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Glenn is a perfect example that let's start with Mitchell
Trobinsky if you were in that front office, so you're
in that coaches those coaches office. They open up with
the Falcons, the defending NFC champions who have loaded up
on their defensive front. Granted they opened up at home
Falcons at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who everybody believes is
a massively improved team. Then the Steelers, not a great defense,
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but steal the Steelers. Then they go on the road
to the Backers, home to the Vikings, then on the
road at the Ravens, Like what do you how do
you handle the Mitchell the college from Mitchell Trobinsky to
start right away, Well, if they list it's funny, it's
funny you ask. I've got the Bears and Titans this
weekend in the preseason game, and they just announced, was
it yesterday that Trabinsky is going to get run with
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the first unit, probably to start the second half, which
they had not thought that they had not announced that
they were going to do before. Previously it was Mike
Glennon and we'll bring Mitchell a law. They want to
get a look at it. I would dare say that
I would not be shocked if that change is even
in game on Sunday that they move him up and
play him in the first half with the with the ones.
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And if they do that signals to me that they're
gonna try and get him ready to play those games. Look,
the easy thing would be Mike glenn is gonna play
through that that part of the schedule you're talking about.
But if you really believe Trabisky is going to be
your guy, he's got to take some bumps and bruises anyway.
He's not to learn. We've had a number of quarterbacks
have started seasons that were rookies. Jameis Winston did, Mariota
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did the whole deal, and it didn't matter who was
wind up across the field. Kaiser may very well do
that in Cleveland. If they really believe that that he
gives them the best chance and they decided to go
for it early, I say go ahead and play him.
They're gonna to take those ups and downs anyway. I
don't know about the protecting them because I feel like,
you play, you don't plan for three or four games,
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and you put him in, you almost wasted three or
four games because you were going to do it anyway.
I think it's different in Houston with Tom Savage because
it feels like he's ease that job. But I still
think Watson could be viable down the stretch. And Alex
Smith he's gotta win some big games because Patchel Mahomes
is coming. Yeah, the Mahomes thing. And I talked to
some guys about Mahomes and you saw him a bunch
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of college so did I. I mean, look, he's just
got more armed talent, more athletic talent than than Alex
Smith does. But he there's so many other little things
that he doesn't get to know. Yeah, and Donny's got
to learn. But but you know, Doug, you know the
reason that they moved up to thirteen or whatever number
it was to get him. Um. I firmly believe, and
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I haven't sat down with Andy Reid or you know,
any of the front office, but I firmly believe that
that Pittsburgh playoff game where they lost at home and
did not give up a touchdown got beat by field goals.
I think that that was the real impetus for this thing,
because you can't be in that position where your quarterback
doesn't take that shot sometimes to stick that bad boy
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in the end zone. Alex Smith's gonna take care of
the ball, gonna be great that. I think a lot
of times he catches more black than he should, but
the ball doesn't get downfield very often. There's no arguing
or disputing that Mahomes is going to do that. Now
you're gonna come. As you said, there's plenty of mistakes
that may come with it. But I think they drafted
him to win those types of games later because sometimes
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you have to take the shot. Sometimes you've got you
can't just play it safe all the time. Third and
seven and defense gives you six. You can't take six
third and seven. You've gotta take eight somehow, And that's
what Mahomes gives you an opportunity to do. And I
think Watson also has that potential in him as well.
Charles Davis joining us NFL on Fox Analysts also you
see him on the NFL network. You mentioned you're preparing
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for Bears versus Titans. A lot of buzz about about
Jamis and what he's been able to do in Tampa.
What about Mariota. Part of it is it's Nashville. We
don't cover a lot, but it feels like he's ready
to take that next step. But that's not The guys
have watched him on tape. You have you're getting ready
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for the game. Where is Mariota as a pro quarterback?
He is ready to take the next step and they
drafted accordingly to try and help him do that. I
don't know. Corey Davis the number one pick, and then
they took a number five. Why would say about Western Michigan.
Don't know when he will be ready. They're pushing to
try and have him ready for the season opener. It
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maybe later, we'll see, but he hasn't He hasn't worked
out in the camp. But Taijuan Taylor from Western Kentucky
has come on and played well for them. Gives him
more speed in the lineup and a tight end named
John hu Smith from Florida International. When you pair him
with Delaney Walker, now you have more to more speed
in the game, more options again tight ends, but more
like you know big wide receivers would get down field.
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They're trying their best to increase those weapons because they're
going to run the heck out of it. Does you
know that they're a smash mouth team to to quote
a to quote an overused phrase, but they need something extra.
They need to really be able to sting people down field,
make them pay for the eight people in the box.
That's what Corey Davis was drafted for. That's what Taywan
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Taylor was drafted for. That's what john Us Smith was
drafted for. They're surrounding him with those people. The offensive
lines back attack on invest in football and I've watched
him this summer. I do their preseason package. He has
grown as a quarterback from year two to year three.
Has helped his back. He moves around well, he knows
how to get rid of the balls and lived to
fight another down. I think also the ability to throw
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it downfield will continue to increase. I think he's ready
to take a jump. I know, uh, I know that
Cam didn't play last week when you called that game,
Christian McCaffrey did, but you talked to everybody in the
league and you've covered Cam enough. Look, he's coming back
tonight from shoulder surgery and anytime you say, shoulder surgery.
He Andrew Luck both kind of uh coming off his
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shoulder injuries. It makes anyone queasy about a star quarterback.
But there are parts of his play last year which
were very uneven and there wasn't the evolution from Cam
Newton coming off the m v P to take a
step to being a consider Ston, Domond and passion. Now, look,
their line was as good, the running game was good,
the defense, sure as heck, wasn't as good, and he
had to do more. What are your thoughts on Cam
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Newton and how we should evaluate Newton tonight and Newton
had in the end of the season. I'll make this
one quicker than normal. Ron Rivera said at the end
of last year, said it to me as I prepared
for a broadcast, said, it's the media in Carolina that
Cam would have to evolve similar to how Big Ben
evolved where he doesn't take so many hits in the pocket.
You remember that, Doug, there's a big discussion about that.
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When Ron said that to me on the phone, I said, coach,
quick question, have you talked to Cam about this? And
he said he just guy Chuckling went no, not yet,
but you know we'll be getting into in the off
season the whole deal. Well, fast forward to this year.
They draft McCaffrey right, they draft Curtis Samuel, They bring
in Matt Khalil to play left tackle. They draft Taylor
Moton to play right tackle or guard, depending on how
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they want to utilize him. They've tried to increase that
and what they've told him essentially with that raft was,
let's get rid of the ball faster, camp. Let's get
into the hands of these guys. Let's not take as
many hits, but maybe we'll cut you down on the
running game, not totally out of it, but let's not
make you a primary third and two guys, do you
remember Cam's first press conferences camp, Remember what they said,
what he said when they asked him about you know
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all those things. Well, you know, Allion's got a roar.
So if they if he's not willing to make the
step to change, that's where things are going to get
interacting because they've done all the right things for him. Look,
I watched him throw last week. He didn't throw a
sun to during practice, but I think he's on track.
They're just being cautious with him and smart because maybe
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they got over extended early. I think he plays up
to twenty plays tonight, Doug. I think he takes it,
you know, I think he takes a shot downfield and
make sure the arms Okay, I think you know. I
doubt that they use him in the run game. But
after that we'll see him for the season opener. But
if he'll use those weapons around him now and adapt
to what they're going to do offensively that Mike Schuler
is going to call, I think we can see Cam
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be closer to what we saw in the m v
P year without him being as much of a primary
ball carrier. But he's got to take those easy completions.
Take him and up your percentage last year too and
took way too many hits. You're rid of the ball.
Don't take the hit. I know you're Superman, but even
Superman has and kryptonite. In the NFL, it's called a
pass rush. Yeah, well, listen, he needs to needs to
(37:20):
take on that Rocky Balboa from Rocky for mentality conchange
loose contangs. It was always conchanged, Yeah he was. He
was probably concussed, maybe not. Um, Charles, look forward to
hearing you on the call, and I can't wait to
talk more with you getting ready for the NFL season.
Thanks so much of me our guests. As always, thanks
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a lot for having me. Doug always create a talk
with you. Take care of yourself. Hope you're enjoyed being
back home in Cali. I am. It's Charles Davis. Of course,
he's back home covering the Tennessee Titans played at ut
um uh In in Knoxville. Fox Sports Radio has the
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the I Heart Radio app. There are three types of
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people in watching sports injuries. There is I don't ever
want to see it. I don't want to see it.
That that's that's guy one. Guy too is I want
to see it once so I can catalog it in
my memory bank. Just I need to. Okay, I saw,
I saw it. I'm good. I'm good. And then there
is guy three who I oh God, I saw blind
(38:28):
that I gotta watch. Ah. Is there another who watched
Paul George break his leg at U and LV like
fifteen times, then sent it to all his buddies and
had them watch it fifteen times. Dan Buyer, what kind
of guy are you I'm I can't watch it. Guy.
You never watch it. And my wife, My wife is
(38:48):
the opposite. She can watch that and see it and goes,
oh my gosh, but I'm I can't watch it. Okay,
John Ramos, what kind of guy are you? I like
to watch it. I'm the kind of guy who goes, oh,
let's see the out again? Yeah, almost Ryan Music, which
are you? I'm in the middle. I'm the guy who's okay.
I can see Paul George break his leg once so
(39:09):
I can take in what happened. But after that, I'm good.
I don't need to watch it anymore. I just need
to see it once. I am with John Ramos, I
can't get enough. I can't get enough of sports injuries,
watching dudes break their legs in half, you know, Like, um,
I bring that up because look, I don't want anyone
(39:29):
to die in the ring, Okay. I don't want anybody
to die, and I don't want Conn McGregor to die
at the hands of Floyd Mayweather. But if he does die,
I want to be watching it at the time because
I don't want people to go like, oh my god,
did you see that he actually died? Like, no way
watch it like I want to be like the last
guy to know. So I'm admitting. Look, I'm just admitting
(39:51):
that there's that part of my brain that I don't
I really really don't like. Look. I'd like to see him.
I'd like to see him look bad, because I do
think it it minimizes um our kind of romantic belief
in how skillful you have to be, how long it
takes to become a great boxer. But I don't want
(40:13):
him to die. Um. This is really interesting, and it
was in the New York Times earlier today. Apparently there's
a bunch of uh, there's a hundred ringside doctors who's
there's a group of more than a hundred ringside doctors
whose members, for decades of experience, have worked hundreds of
major bouts in New York, Nevada and other jurisdictions. Arguing
(40:36):
that Connor McGregor, mixed martial arts champion who'll be fighting
his first professional about his overmatched by Floyd Mayweather's forty
nine considered the best boxer of his generation. Quote, we
were very surprised as about was even sanctioned and was
going to be permitted to carry on. Larry Lovelace a
doctor in the president of the organization, which is focused
on preserving fighter safety. Like fighter safety is kind of like, uh,
(41:00):
kind of like civil war, right, Like are you really
that's safe if you're going in there to get your
head tattered by another man? But nonetheless, quote the thing
I really fear, truly fear, is that somebody's gonna really
get hurt in this upcoming fight. I don't want anybody
getting hurt, but if they do get hurt, I want
to I want to be the one watching it. And
I actually think that. Um. I remember in in June,
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Tim Haig, thirty four mixed martial arts MRS martial artist
turned boxers, sustained fatal injuries during about against Adam Braidwood
in Edmonton, Alberta. It was Haig's fourth pro boxing match
after competing in thirty four mm A fights. So he's
doctor and look, doctors do that. They're extra cautious. You know,
you sprain an ankle and the doctors like, oh, you
(41:42):
gotta be on crutches for a month. I know people
who have women who have gotten a c section, they're
up not just walking around but working out in the
first couple of weeks, like it's supposed to be six
to eight weeks before you do anything. On the other hand,
doctors sitting there going like, hey, you know, we we
clear these five This does not seem like a good idea,
and there is precedent for a mixed martial artist actually
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getting killed in the ring. The problem with it is,
and while this points out how big a farce this
fight could be, it makes me want to watch the
fight more. I'm sorry that it makes me want to
watch the fight more so that something does happen. I
see it, and then I could go to find somewhere
and rewind it and watch it again, and watch it again,
(42:25):
and watch it again. Don't hate me, because I'm honest.
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