August 29, 2017 • 46 mins
Doug explains why there is no need to overreact to Matthew Stafford becoming the NFL's highest paid quarterback. He talks about Jerry Jones and why what he says about Ezekiel Elliott's suspensions makes a lot of sense. Plus, former Lions linebackers and NFL on FOX analyst Chris Spielman joins the show to give his thoughts on Stafford's new contract.
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Because you come here to have an aside from North Korea, Houston, etcetera, etcetera. UM,
Matt Stafford is now the highest paid player in the
National Football League and that strikes many of you as
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the wrong thing, right right, And UH, I would conclude
that many of you haven't really paid attention. And UM,
look the reason the reason war is such a big
stat in baseball is because it's what it's what it's
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really about. In the real world. You're you're worth really
two things. One what someone is willing to pay you.
That's important, and to what it would cost to replace you.
How replaceable are you? What's your wins above replacement? And
so while Matt Stafford's record against above five teams is
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something like six and thirty five, right, save me five
and forty six, even more five and forty six. And
while some of you will say, you know Tim Tebow
has more career playoff wins in Matt Stafford, you're not
looking at the whole picture. Like if you don't think that, man,
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And look, I didn't want to start the show talking
about Matt Stafford making on average twenty seven million dollars
a year more than Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers worse,
you're better than his quarterback. Because this is the cycle.
Joe Flacco became the highest paid player in the National
Football League when he won a Super Bowl and he
was a free agent. Derek Carr was a highest paid
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player in the NFL up until this deal. And so
now that thought it is we we just can't happen.
This is the cycle. If you're one of the fifteen
guys that can spin a football, lead a football team,
and can rescue them from a disastrous season, you're going
to be paid at market value. And market value when
you're on the market is one dollar more or one
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million dollars more than the guy who's paid above you.
That's the way in which the game has played. Aaron
Rodgers deal will blow this deal out of the water.
And only Tom Brady is taking less because Tom Brady
is taking big signing bonuses so it doesn't count across
against the cap. And he's able to take less because
while his wife's worth more than he is, and he's
been collecting checks for fifteen years, and he knows he's
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got to put a great team around him. Here's Matt
Stafford when asked about being the highest paid quarterback that
didn't come into play for me. You know, whatever's gonna
happen is gonna happen for those guys. Uh, you know,
I'm worried about what's what's best for myself and our team,
and and uh that went into a way more than
you know, anything league wide or at the quarterback physician.
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So look, I don't like when he says it's not
about being the highest paid player, because it is about
being the highest paid player. All of us could live
on ten million dollars on average per year, especially in Detroit.
Like this deal could have been done you if you said, hey,
I'd like to have a great team around me, surround
me with incredible talent. Remember, Stafford was one of the last.
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He and Sam Bradford are the last two number one
overall picks. Back when you got huge upfront mowning your
signing bonus just just south I believe of fifty million
a year, and of course Bradford got fifty million signing bonus.
Bradford got fifty or fifty one in signing bonus. He
was the last one. So don't fault Stafford for for
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getting three huge contracts. His was more luck and timing
as well as skill. But like if you're bothered by
how much money makes, you haven't been paying attention. He's
been really good and he's gotten better. The knock against
him early in his career. First he had some injuries. Second,
he turned the ball over too much. He's cut down
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on the turnovers and he's increased. The accuracy completion percentage
has gone up from fifty nine going back to their
four win year. The four win year, by the way,
was when Calvin Johnson had his record setting season. They
were a terrible team, and those two were the only
two things worth watching. He was about passer until two
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thousand fourteen, when they won eleven games, and he was
over sixty four the second time in his career, sixty
seven two years ago when he rescued Caldwell season, and
last year when they nearly made the playoffs, they were
at sixty five point three with no running game, Like,
here's a guy with no running game and a bad defense. Statistically,
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the right the scoring defense, and some of it is
you score a lot on offense, more possessions, etcetera. But
nineteen thirty, second, nineteen third, and thirteen, when they had
the third rated defense scoring defense in Nation Football League,
that's when they won eleven games. That's the correlation. So
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if you wanted to make an argument against Stafford, don't
make an argument over he shouldn't be the highest paid
player in the league. Make the argument that these quarterbacks
should be smarter. They'd win more games if they took
less money and their teams spread around to their defense, which,
by the way, is really what happens when these quarterbacks
signed these deals, is they do take less off the top.
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It does hurt them less against cap, but they could
even do even more if they're willing to take less.
That's just not really the way in which the game
is played. Right, by the way, his running rushing offense,
he is the sole focus of their offense. As he goes,
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so goes their offense. He is that important and to
replace him is incredibly, incredibly difficult. I mean, they were
searching for twenty five years for a starting quarterback in Detroit.
They finally have one, and they're like, hey, guess what,
we're not letting you go. Yes, teams are clinging with
their starting quarterbacks like you don't want to be a clinger,
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like a stage stage three clinger. But the truth is,
like Detroit is receding hairline, protruding belly, not exactly a
catch of an organization. And Stafford, while maybe, uh maybe
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Stafford is like one of those tens that knows he
knows his a ten right, He's got a cannon for
an arm, He's got a little cutler to him, right,
where he's he's a little bit more lovable than Cutler,
but it's a little bit more armed talent. Then it's
a little bit more tangibles than intangibles. All that's fine,
but like if you're receiving hairline, dude with a protruding gut,
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who's in your forties, Like, go back out in the market,
and if you already have a girl, you better be
that stage three clinger. Do whatever it takes to make
sure she never has a wandering eye. She wants new boobs,
she gets new boobs. She wants a ring, She gets
a ring. Right, Everyone I know knows of type, Like,
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oh she's she's always done up. She always takes care
of They go on incredible vacations. Like can they afford
all that? I don't really know, but they do it.
Why do they do it? Because Dud's got a gut
receding hairline, you know, doesn't know when it was next check.
Is not exactly a catch out there in the market.
He doesn't want to be on the market. That's the
Detroit Lions Dolphins have been searching for twenty five years
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since Dan Marino left to get a starting quarterback. I mean,
the best Honestly, Cutler was probably the best quarterback the
Bears have had in thirty years. So if if you
think he's not worth it, the NFL will disagree with you,
because it's really hard to evaluate. John always missed three times.
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It's three times, you know, And you tell me the
last time a superstar quarterback became a free agent doesn't happen?
You know? It was Peyton Manning, But that only because
Peyton Manning could not feel his fingertips and they had
replaced him with Andrew Luck and he had next surgery
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and he was creeping up on forty and no one
knew exactly how that would pan out, and they got
one and a half two really good years out of him.
He as bad as last year. So, yeah, he cashed
on the rookie wage skit sale scale. He'll have made
two million dollars by the time he's thirty three. But
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you know what, there's like fifteen guys in the world
that can do what he does, and the lines, you're like,
we got one. We're gonna do whatever it takes to
keep him and keep him happy and then manage the
cap within it and they get cost certainty, and that's
important in any business. So and like if you're bothered
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by well, Matt Stafford can't be the highest paid guy.
Derek Carr was until Matt Stafford was until and until
Aaron Rodgers will be. Yeah, for like you know, and
if if this is the indian app and and Andrew
luck was before that. By the way, if this was
the Indianapolis Colts, the Detroit Lions would hang a banner. Uh, August,
whatever day it is, August, Matt Stafford highest paid player
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in the NFL, because you know they hang banners for everything, right,
where'st fake punt in NFL history that should get a banner?
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He's a three time All Pro former Lion, and uh, Chris,
I just gotta get your take on the NFL story
of the day, which is Matt Stafford's highest played player
in the nationale Football League as a former Lion. As
a guy who's watched him evolve as a quarterback, what's
your reaction, Well, I like him, and I think the
reaction is to me, he's a top six guy, and
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he's a top aid guy until the next quarterbacks up
for contract, and that guy will be the top aide guy.
But I think, what's the alternative if it's not Matt Ryan.
I mean there there there would be what twenty six
other teams line or matt Stafford will be twenty six
other teams line enough to take Matthew Stafford if you
were a free agent. I mean you think of that position,
Doug An inconsistency of that position, Matthew Stafford. I think
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as he's talented as guy is, he's probably a top
five or six guy in my eyes. Yeah, no, I listen.
I don't know if I would go top five or six,
I would, uh, you know, But I do think he's
in that really close second tier. But I haven't watched
the lines, maybe as close as as you have, but
I've watched the lines really closely, and I've realized defense
hasn't been great. Uh, They've gone through the coaching change,
the running game hasn't been good, and the one guy
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who is who has been there almost their entire offense
has been Stafford and keeping them above water. And when
they have, you know, a couple years ago they had
a really good defense, then they want eleven games. But
he's I mean, look, he cal Well doesn't have a
job if not for or matt Stafford rescuing their past
two seasons. Yeah, and you remember he was nine and
four last year before the injury to his finger, and
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he had a lot of comeback wins in the fourth quarter.
He did it with zero running game and two thousand
and fifteen they were ranked thirtieth. Last year they were
ranked thirty one in the rushing game. Their defense set
a franchise record low and turnovers. And I'm not saying, look,
you know, the quarterback you got to elevate, and I
think he's the elevator as much as he you can.
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If they get some type of running game, I think
that's only going to push his game even higher. And
they should be pretty competitive this year. So I understand it.
I certainly do. I think you need a quarterback to win,
and if you have one of his talented as Matthew Stafford,
and that's the market, you pay the guy. Yep, I said,
I honestly said the exact same thing. Without you knowing it.
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I was like, look like, like what what what are
detroits other options? And you you almost you have to
wrap your You have to be like a stage three clinger, right,
you gotta be. You gotta go over the top so
he never feels like there's ever a reason I have
a wandering eye. And then you build around I guess
the only question is, uh, do you are you? Do
you put too much money into that quarterback and not
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have the ability financially to surround him with the with
the supporting cast so you can have a running game,
so you can have a defense that there in lies. Right. Yeah, well,
I think what you have to do is and you
have to balance your contracts and look at Mirabdullah, if
he's healthy, they have the potential for a running game.
Bob Quinn went out and got t J. Lange and
Rick Wagner's free agents to shore up that offensive line,
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and so, uh, you know, eventually guys still have to play.
And I'm saying that the quarterback position, yes, they get
a lot of money, and they deserve a lot of money.
And who's to say the cap isn't going to go up?
So we don't know exactly what that percentage will be
two years from an hour or three years from now.
But you lock down the most important position on the field. Look,
I know that you can have the best offensive lineman
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in the world, you can have the best corners, best
safeties and world if you don't have a quarterback, it's
not gonna matter, right mate. You got to have a
guy you don't and they got one. Everybody's gonna play
with him. I I feel like, and look at this
is there's no intent for this to be a softball
because your brother is the general manager. But I feel
like the Vikings are the team that were wildly discussed
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last year. Then obviously they had just this mass litany
of injuries, and now like Vegas has bought in because
Vegas is over under his nine and a half on them, um,
and I kind of and I love the addition of
Dalvin Cook, although a rookie. I don't know your thoughts
on how ready to contribute on all three downs you
think he would be. But I kind of feel like
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the Vikings are one of those four or five teams
that were not talking enough about leading up into the season.
And I'm cautiously optimistic because I know all of the
talent that they've been able to acquire. And I think
we were deceived because the line was so bad last
year because of injuries. Am I wrong? Well, different starting
line combinations and and you know, in all fairness about
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to Rick, he's the last one will make excuses. He said, well,
we've got to play better and you gotta get better backups.
That that would be his answer, and that's he'll take
responsibility for that. That being said, though, I think they
can be very good. Uh not after what I watched
on Sunday night though the way they first started at
the first two series when San Francisco dropped fourteen on
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him right off the gate. But again, preseason, what have
you guys? Turn it up when regular season comes. But
guess what it was preseason for the forty niners too.
But potentially, if they can protect the Bradford because I
think he's a very good quarterback, Cook brings them a
little more explosiveness than Adrian brought because I think Adrians
just might have hit his end. And if that offensive
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line can stay healthy and play, then defensively, we know
they have the potential to be a top five defense.
So we'll see how that plays out, But yeah, I
think you're right. The nine and a half sounds like
a good number to me. You mentioned the Niners. Would
they be I mean, like, look, their defense has been
pretty good at times in the preseason. Could they be
a surprise team or is this just the preseason? We
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have to measure ourselves. Um. I think they can win
more games than people think. Uh, what they have, I
don't know, sixty new guys in training camp out the
five or something like that, some crazy number that John
put together to rebuild this. I love the addition of
Kyle Shanahan. I think he's tremendous play color, he has
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a real good feel for the game. Uh, it seems
like the young rookies Reuben Foster is going to be healthy.
He can play the middle linebacker position. I love the
defensive line, so potentially they can. Probably. I think their
ceiling is probably seven maybe eight games would be the
high point. In probably three to four would be the
low point. The Atlanta Falcons lose Kyle Shanahan, how big
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a drop off you think they'll have in terms of
their offense? And last year their offense was remarkable. They've
They've added to the past rush depth, which hurt time
in the Super Bowl. Uh, and they're bringing back, you know,
as Freeman. I don't know people found out. I think
it's earlier today. Cleared for the concussion protocol, won't play
this weekend, but that means he'll play Week one of
the season in Chicago against the Bears. How do you
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think the Atlanta Falcons offense looks without Kyle Shanahan calling plays.
I think it's a little bit of an adjustment. But
you know, Sarkesian is a good play caller. I mean,
you can say what you want about the guy. I
think he's a good football coach and I think he'll
just and it's a little different in the NFL than college. Obviously,
he's gonna work hand in hand with Matt Ryan, and
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those guys sit down and say, what do you like
Matt Ryan. I guess we can call Matt an elite
quarterback at this point. So when you have him throwing
the Julio Jones and a host of other guys and
a two headed monster running back in a really good
offensive line, I think their offense will be moving around
just like it always does. There might be a little
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bit of a Super Bowl hangover, but we'll see. I
think Dan Quinn does a great job but motivating professional
football players and we'll see how how they come back
and respond. It's going to be an adjustment, but they're
really talented, and when you have Matt Ryan, I think
Matt puts you in every ballgame. Chris Pielman joining us
in the Doug Gotlip Show, NFL and Fox analysts getting
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ready for the upcoming season. Dak Prescott twenty three touchdowns,
four interceptions. I don't think anyone expected him to start,
let alone have such an incredible impact with the Cowboys.
But year two probably won't have Zeke maybe for all
of the six games of the suspension. The schedule is
prohibitively more difficult, and now there's the raised expectations because
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there's no romo behind him and it's clearly his team.
What's your thoughts on what we'll see from Dak Prescott
year two as a starter. Well, I think it's a
guaranteed six. I don't think the NFL is going to
rule against itself. I think what's that appeal hearing you
correct me if I'm wrong. I could be totally off
on this, but the only thing the NFL has to
prove to itself for as far as the appellate process goes,
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is that it did not screw up the investigation that
took a year and a half, so they better not
screwed it up. That being said, I think that's it
is by far, what I've seen is my opinion, the
best offensive line in football. They are really, really good,
So I do think they'll be able to absorb the
loss of Zeke. I obviously think Zeke is a there's
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a great football player and has breakaway speed, But I
do think mix Soldan and the Morse will be more
than capable with that offensive line. And plus, uh, I
think Dac has a comfort level and confidence because of
that offensive line and because of the receivers around him,
and including a really good tight end and Jason Witten.
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And you know when you have a good tight end
Doug it occupies safeties and linebackers because you can't match
him up one on one because he's too big for
safeties and he's quick for linebackers. And what that does
it singles up outside guys and got a guy like
Dad's out there running around. Uh, if you get the
ball in the area, those guys usually go get it.
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What about the Eagles. You know, Whence what happened last
year was Whence one of his first three games, so
everybody was was all in on Wentz and then kind
of America, you know this works, we stopped paying attention, right,
so so then you know, then they turned around and
lose four out of five, the only one, I think
two games again until the you know, the last couple
of the seasons. I mean, it was, it was. It
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was not great. What are your thoughts on Wentz and
how we should how we should view him heading into
this season in Philadelphia? Well, I don't know what the
thoughts are in Philadelphia, but I can explain the thoughts
here and with Cleveland fans. It was the Browns fans
they always say we could have had Wentz, and because
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I had thought for a rookie, I don't know what
you thought. Does I thought it was pretty darn good
and I had a chance to do one Philadelphia Eagle
game and some of the things he does is uh
is really um. The one thing I really like about
him is that a lot of guys that come out
of college they throw two guys, they don't throw the spots. Well,
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what I saw last year with Carson was that he
threw the spots. He's really athletic, and he has a
great pocket presence where he doesn't panic in the pocket
and he's not afraid to step into the pocket or
he has a good feel and he's able to get
his feet set and able to throw accurately when there's
a lot of crap running around him in that pocket.
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I think he if he makes a natural improvement from
the first year starter quarterback to the second year starting quarterback,
I think the Eagles can be a threat to anybody
said they play. You mentioned the Cleveland Browns. They've announced
that Deshaun Kaiser is going to be their starting quarterback. Now, Kaiser,
if you would have gone back a year ago because
of his first year, notre day, and he'd be like, okay,
and then he struggled some last year. Uh, And of
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course Brian Kelly had some things that weren't weren't just
glowing praise for him on his way out the door
and he falls to the second round where the Browns
scoop him up. And he's been good for the most
part in the preseason. But I guess questions can any quarterback,
rookie or otherwise survived behind that line. That was the
problems last year. Didn't matter if they had Carson Wins,
the guy would have gotten beat up. Does Kaiser have
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enough around him so that he can just come up
for air during this rookie season? I think so. I
think Isaiah krow Wells are more than capable running back
Duke Johnson back there. They did address offensive wine meats
and in free agency, I think the biggest question marked
and I thought I heard Hughes say this in the
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press conference recently, Um, and now we need to sign
him with surround him with some good receivers. Well what
have you been doing for the last four years? Right?
I mean, if Coleman can stay healthy, the kid from Baylor,
he was hurt last year, the number one pick last
year they got Kenny britt Uh and Joe Coup the
rookie from Miami should be there tight end. Uh. Can
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they get it together? You know the reason why the
Shaun Kaiser is starting because Sean Kaiser is the best
at the position in the building and he gives him
the best chance to win. Is he going to make mistakes, yes,
but the Brown is going to be better than any
ward last year. I would say muggerly better. Now that
means maybe four or five wins. But they were awful.
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I'm awful. It couldn't like them in San Francisco were
It's such a great talent deficit. I've seen that. Have
you seen the Colts this preseason? I feel like the
Colts are The Colts are in that in that caliber
of absolutely no talent, you know, and that if Luck
comes back and wins any games, it's a miracle. Yeah,
it's gonna be Andrew Luck that wins those games, exactly right.
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I think Luck it's worth probably five wins on his own.
Without Luck, I think you look at the Colts, maybe
two wins, three wins, and that's not we even we
I mean touches the Jets yet. So that's that's another story.
Hey man, listen, I'm excited to hear you call games
on Fox this year. I love you when you called
college games. Gonna love you when you call an tell
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games again this season. Fox. Thanks so much for spending
some time with us. You got a dog anytime, man,
Thank you, pleasures mind Chris Pielman. Fox Sports Radio has
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within the I Heart Radio app. When Jerry Jones supports
Ezeki Elliott and says that there is no evidence of
domestic violence, that perched your ears up. That's like, well,
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he's just protecting this guy. This is boys will be
boys and boys protecting boys. When you hear the actual
context of his defense of Zeke Gillett, it might be
a little different. Take a listen. I'm not anticipating any
thing timeline wise. Unfortunately, you get confused in this conversation.
Every person that has any offense at all understands domestic
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violence and bores it. What we're trying to be relative
to addressing it in the league has all kinds of issues,
and it should. It's a very complicated issue because you
have no evidence here. That's all I want to say
about it. But it creates quite a convoluted approach by
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Zeke's representatives and by the league that I really hate
is a focus of all of our attention. That's from
one of five three of the fan uh in Dallas
where Jerry appeared earlier today. Look, the issue is and
this is this is where I actually feel for Jerry Jones, right,
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Um that even though he was head of the Battered
Women's Organization of Arkansas for the first ten years that
he was an owner of the Cowboys. He's known as
the guy who gave Greg Hardy a chance. And Greg
Hardy was never able to understand exactly what people believe
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that he did. And look, we want to be completely
fair with Greg Hardy. Let me because very Greg Hardy,
the NFL came to there, um came to their findings.
After a court of law did find him guilty, but
then the case was thrown out because it's re tried.
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He's it's found to have not Actually, if you look
at his if you look at his the actual his
actual sheet, there's nothing there. He was never convicted of anything.
He was found guilty, but then when you appeal it
in the state of North Carolina goes to a higher court,
it throws out the first trial. And then she no
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showed because she was paid off by him. But we
still don't know what is real. He never varied from
his side of the story, she never from hers. But
I do think it's it's safe to say that Jerry
Jones signing Greg Hardy was a disaster because he was
never able to to appear in any way contrite. Plus
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he had the coke charge, Plus he just this Greg
Hardy is a jerk. It's just a jerk. And I
understand that if you're charged with something you didn't do
or something is inflated in terms of what you did.
But he could just never he could just never be
contrite in any way. And so because Jerry carries that,
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because of so many other things that cowboys have done,
some of the things Jerry himself has done, they're seen
as the bad boys to the NFL right now, and
they get away there because they're the cowboys. But I
actually think he does a really good job in his
Jerry Jones way of saying like, look, I'm not of course,
we want to get rid of domestic violence. Everybody knows
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anything about, understands it, abhors it, and the league is
trying to get it out. You know. We we don't
want our players being seen as women beaters. But there's
what he's saying. When there's complex issues means there are
times in which people make accusations which are not curate. Now,
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Ben Roethlisberger was suspend i think six games for allegations
which never came to chargers outside of Atlanta, Georgia. Remember that,
and that was kind of the cumulative fact he had
the year before he had gone over the handlebars of
his motorcycle and dinged up his head. Remember that it
was reduced to four. Greg Hardy's was also reduced to four.
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But this was before we really got a consciert before
a rice, right before a rice, After a rises is
after a rice. But the point is that that he
was found to be uh, he was found to have
he was he was suspended even though no chargers were
ever brought against him. This has Ben Roethlisberger and Jerry's
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like saying, hey, look, I know the evidence and there
is digital evidence of of of the accuser making up
some of the allegations. Does that mean she made up
all of the allegations? The NFL, at least their investigators
believe not. Here's the tricky part. The tricky part is
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that you have these accusations out there, you have this
through investigation. There's the assumption from the prosecutors that something happened,
and something happened is enough for them to sit him down.
And they also coupled it with the fact that he
pulled a girl's shirt down, I'll look. I don't. I'm
not a middle schooler anymore, so I don't snap girls braws.
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I don't smack girls on the tush. I would never
flash a flash somebody's breast. It was a St. Patrick's
Day parade, And if you've been to a parade where
they're throwing beads, women will flash themselves. Doesn't mean that
you should flash for them. Again, none of this makes
it okay. But just because you flash somebody's breast is
(29:59):
not I mean, you will smack a woman around like.
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and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in. Jason
Lockhamp for j LC works for CBS Sports and CBS
Sports dot Com. He's an NFL inside and a very
very good one. Well, what's the league's reaction to staffords contract? Oh,
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this was the state of complain, you know, I mean,
he wasn't going anywhere. The price point is what it is,
based on the inflation of quarterback contracts, based on the
Caps starting to significantly grow the deeper we get into
the CBA. Based on the fact that three teams are
moving and twenty nine owners are collecting over a billion
dollars from them, you know, in the in the years
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to come because of the relocation feast, and based on
the fact that Matt Stafford is a very good quarterback
who was the last of the bonus babies who came
into the league under the old c b A is
the first overall pick talketing million before he can sign
a contract, before he ever drew a pass right. That
was the that was the full guarantee that he was
walking into. So timing is everything and he's had impectable
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timing and him going into his contract here now you know,
after a cousinings being franchised the second time, and you
know the Ravens having to redo Flacco's deal a few
years ago because of the bubble that they were meeting
um in terms of his cap numbers and all that stuff.
I mean, this is this is how it works. I mean,
this is the cost of building business, especially under those
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circumstances which again predate this t b A, which has
so much cost certainty in terms of rookie wave scale. Now, Um,
I've watched a lot of preseason football, kind of an
uncomfortable amount of preseason football. I know, I know, uh,
and I don't want to make any any grand statements
for the most part, but the cults are bad without
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and back. They are bad. Yeah, you're not going out
of all there. Okay, They're okay. So but I read where,
um where Chuck Bagano said like he hasn't even seen
Andrew Luck throw, like he has never actually been, which
which I find hard to believe. But I also I'm
I'm wondering about Andrew Luck because this is some like
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state held secret as to his progress. Of all people
that would know, you would know, tell me what's going
on with Andrew Luck. Yeah, there there is. There is
no real timetable for him. They're going to be incredibly
cautious with how they moved forward with him. This isn't
you know, even a knee or quad or you know,
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even an elbow. I mean, this is his money maker,
this is his labor room. This is you know, the
the exact skeletor and and you know kinesiology required to
hoist the football the way he does. And he didn't
have the surgery all that long ago, and he hasn't
really been able to do a whole lot to this point.
So look, I was at the camp probably three weeks ago.
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It was early in training camps, and I reported at
the time that this guy is gonna miss regular sets
of time, and you know they don't want to commit
to how much. But based on everything, I'm here and
he's not ready to play a regular season game week one,
and and that's still the case now. I stole him
of the mind that it is not impossible that they
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just put them on pop. I know that thing he
misses six weeks, but if they if they're a week
from now and he's not practicing, he's gonna miss at
least three or four. And if you pluck them, you
take it away. It's not pressure of what is you playing,
what is you practicing every single day? That team is
building for the long term now. Anyway, under a rookie
GM Chris Ballot, I mean, I feel fast for Chuckle Ghana,
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But like the goal isn't necessarily to win a game
in September with Andrew Luft. The goal is to have
a good team around Andrew luck by next season where
maybe you win that mediocre division. News flash, it's not
happening this year. So you know, I expect discretion to
be the better part of valor, and then to continue
taking a long view with someone who they've you know,
guaranteed seventy five million dollars two over the first three
(33:55):
years of the deal. And again it is his thrilling shoulders,
so um, you know, I would put I would frankly
put them on if there's anything close to him missing,
you know, at least the first months of the season,
I would put him on top. I would also say
they may need that roster spot because Scott Tolzen I
don't think he'll get through two or three games with
him FACETI on production and or potential for injury. I
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think they should just start the Morris kid. But they're
probably going to need a multitude of quarterbacks to to survive,
you know, for four to six weeks, if that's how long.
What is out anyway? Uh brock Osweller, I guess he
got beat out by Deshaun Kaiser, right, So look, they
and it was it was a strange fit anyway, and
they thought about trading him the second they absorbed that
(34:39):
salary from from Houston in fairness, but like, look, he
was given some opportunity to win the job and he
did not. So what what what happens to Brock now? Well,
I don't think they're gonna be able to move him.
I mean again, from the moment they acquired him. It
was a paper transaction, and they immediately as soon as
they got confirmation from the trade papers from the league
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office on the first day of the league year, they
were immediately calling teams left and right saying we'll we'll
eat half of this thing and give you a pick
to get a pick back in return. So you know
he hadn't That was six months ago. They haven't been
able to get squatted for him. I don't see how
they will now after you know, he couldn't beat out
Cheschler or or TiSER, and frankly, I don't think you
(35:24):
beat out Hogan because I didn't. They'd rather keep hoping
than this guy. Because they put him on the practice clad.
Somebody else might sign them and they're gonna beat numbers
back there. And who wants the number four quarterback? Making
eighteen million dollars, you can make it eighteen times more
than your starter. I don't know how that guy that
had plays up and I don't see It's not like
Oswald was always a great guy. He's a team leader.
He's gonna show these guys the role. She's great in
(35:45):
the quarterback room. Again than Joshua Town we're talking about.
This is brock Oswalluse. I think they just eat it.
You know, they spent no money for three years there.
They tore their team down. The owner was, you know,
stuff in his pockets more or less. I mean they're
letting free agents, young free a just leave the building.
They have more tap space than they could spend in
four all seasons, much less one. I mean, maybe you
(36:06):
just take the hit and it's auditioned by subtraction and
you it is what it is is you paid money
for those drafts sits. When I am you know your
trade and cap space and money for a draft draft
stage asset trade act. I actually I do too. And
I actually think they did it to to raise because
you know, they have to hit that floor of the
cast space. They have to spend something you can't just
(36:28):
you can't not spend at all. And they're just this
is their creative way of spending enough. Jason lack Camphora
joining us. Um, boy, it sure feels like the Buffalo
Bills are also tanking. Like Reggie Ragland is gone. And
I know, different GM, different head coach, but you know,
another player dealt out of out of Buffalo. Um. This
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this is what it appears to be, right, Yeah, I
mean I wrote a column about this. I was at
the game on Saturday against the Ravens when they threw
Marcel baffe Us out and said, you didn't get your
way home. If you can't, you know, get to the
stadium with the rest of your teammates. There's new sheriffs
in town. I mean, it was Lady Fair inmates running
the asylum under Doug Waley and Rex Ryan. It just was.
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And it was in fighting and back fighting between the
coaches in the front office, and it was playing favorites,
and it was all about Sammy Watkins because the GM
gave up way too much and moved up in a
wide receiver rich draft to get him. And you know,
after they'd already gone all in on EJ. Manual and
then you know that it's then they're all about card
l joes. Just go look at all the sort of
(37:31):
favorite guys over the last couple of years ago. Look
at all their you know, recent first and second round picks.
They're gone. And there was a lot of drafting hurt players.
You know, Ragling he was hurt when you got him,
Shack was he's hurt when you got him. Sammy Watkins
had a foot issue when you took him. And they're
not gonna recommit on second contracts to these guys, and
they have their questions and in Raglan's case, he doesn't
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really fit the scheme anyway. Yeah, they're they're they're not
playing around that anymore. Man. I mean, I'm happy today.
A couple of years to go, Marshall Darris would have
walked in that locker room. Maybe he would quietly be
given a fine. Probably Rex would have just said thanks
for showing up, and you know, go go out there
and start stretching with the rest of the guys, and
that would have been it. This new regime, they're looking
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at it an opportunity to send a signal like that's
not you know, we don't condone that, we don't stand
for that. You're a highest paid guy and you can't
get to the stadium with the rest of your teenage
go home. I love it. I mean it's much needed there.
If they're everybody changed the culture. If they're ever gonna snap,
I'll say an eighteen year playoff droute because the news
last day't going to playoffs this year. This is how
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you have to do it. And I love the Walkings
trade too. So loaded with draft fixed two in the first,
second and third round next year, if they need a quarterback,
they'll get one. They're not gonna trade shitty McCoy. They're
not gonna trade Tyrod Taylor, but anything else is probably
on the table right now. Um okay in this because
they're also in the division with the Pats. But the
pat suffered a devastating loss or number one receiver last
(38:55):
year was Julian Edelman. He they lose them to a
tour in a c L. Now, look, Patriots have have
built themselves not just on Tom Brady, but also their
ability to make waiver wire acquisitions right like this is
and find guys are the right fit for what they're doing.
The Legarrett Blunts of the world, hell, the element Edelman's,
the trade for Welker, all of those things have been
have been just just geniuses for how they do what
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they do. And this year is different. Jason. As you know,
it's gonna be a wild weekend cutting down from ninety
to fifty three. There's gonna just be a flood of
guys that are gonna be available. They gotta go out
and sign somebody, don't they. I don't know. It's devastating
for Julian Edelman obviously, um and what he means to
Tom Brady and that locker room. But from a pure
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production standpoint, I mean, he's a special player. But I
don't know who they signed who's going to make that team.
If you're looking talking about pure pass catches. You still
got in Mondola, right, You've got Grant coming back, he's
in the slot. You've got Hogan who is no joke
and he's now another offseason with Brady and they're even
more sympatical. You've got to kid Mitchell, who really chan
(40:00):
one last year late when he got healthy and was
a deep threat. You know you've added uh uh, the
kid from from New Orleans, right, you traded for for him.
I mean, chief, if there's anywhere on that roster where
I think they could withstand it, it's it's probably there.
And you know they've you know, they've always got some
(40:21):
undrafted kid or some recent late draft pick whom McDaniels
and Belichick are quietly high on and who you know
already will have a bigger role than everything. And they've
got like three guys who can catch the ball in
the back field. So my concern with them is just
pass rush. But you know what, I think they're gonna
play with the lead so much does I think the
offense is gonna be so robust that I don't even know. Man,
(40:42):
They're gonna have teams thrown on first and second down.
They could pin their ears back, and you know, and
Belichick and and and Patricia will scheme it up and
I think they'll be okay. But my issue with them
is still I just don't see a lot of natural
pants rushers on that team. I just don't know how
much it will hold them back. Gonna be fast. And
last thing, Zeki Elliott. Apparently the uh the appeal hearing
(41:04):
h is happening. Yeah, what's next for Zekiel in your opinion, Well,
we'll get a decision here. I would suspect by five
pm Eastern time Friday afternoon. Uh, maybe it gets reduced.
I can't imagine it gets vacated. Short of it getting vacated.
I expect being his legal team to um look for
a jurisdiction where they feel like they could get a
(41:27):
judge who might be sympathetic to issuing him and uh
some sort of stay, you know, an opportunity to uh,
you know, get his day in court saying that you know,
this has violated his workplace rights. And in the meantime,
a judge mcgranted and junction that allowed him to play
until that case is heard. And as we know, these
things have a way of taking a long time to
(41:48):
be heard. Is there a judge who given the c
b A and given the leagues um, you know called
domestic violence policy where it's specifically sets six games for
a first offense and you don't have to be found
guilty in the court of wall you know, is there
a judge out Darren would grants at I don't know,
I mean, but we we've we've we've certainly seen a
lot of these instances end up in port in the past. Jason,
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you do a great job, man. Look forward to reading
your next piece. Follow him on Twitter as well. He's
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hear what Dan Vouch said on on l A news station. Yeah,
Canucks is a news station in l A. And he
had this to say about the Chargers playing its Stubbub
It is embarrassing I think for both the Chargers in
the National Football League to be playing in a seven
thousand sea stadium. In fact, the Chargers first game ever
(42:53):
when they beat the New York Titans in the preseason
game in the Coliseum in thousands, Both the city in
the ownership are to blame for where the Charges are
right now. Wow, Okay, that Loomer, he's an all time great,
Sandy Good Charger Hall of Famer. He's actually calling the
preseason games and I look, I'm gonna just say this,
(43:15):
I completely disagree completely. I was. I've gone to a
preseason game there. Now. Look, is it is stub Hub
Stubbub Center? Is it rinky dink in terms of all
the surrounding stuff? Like, yeah, it's on a college campus
at cal State Domingus Hills. There's like a couple of
strip malls, Like I don't understand how they've had the
Galaxy there for years and no one's built like a
nice restaurant. There's no place to go, so you can
(43:36):
make like a day of it, right. Parking is ridiculously
expensive and and there's a long trek because it's just
not built like a big time stadium, but it is intimate.
They do some cool things like the corners of stubbub
And I don't know if they have this for big
soccer match if you guys have been there, but they
have They bring in food trucks, right, they have normal
(43:56):
concessions and they have food trucks. So like you walk,
you're still in the stadium, but you walk down these
steps and there's like food trucks there that you can
get food. You can get food from. It was kind
of an l A city kind of feel to it.
Look it's random, but like, hey, Dan, how about doing
a little research and knowing that the Titan the Titans
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when they were the Oilers. Remember the Titans when they
were the Oilers and they moved do you remember where
they played before they opened their new stadium, play the
Liberty Bowl, like nobody remembers, like the Rams are planned
to call seem calls him is a dump. It is
a dump. You can be critical like Stubbubs cool. It's
(44:37):
kind of a cool thing for like two years, they're
gonna play in a place to which there are no
bad seats and oh yeah, by the way, as bad
as thousand seats stubbub might be. How many people went
to a Chargers game the last ten years. It was
the oldest stadium in the NFL. You couldn't get WiFi.
The big screen look like an old big screen, right,
(44:59):
Like there was actually those three light bulbs that people
used to have, Remember the three light bulbs in the
big screen that you while you walk in front of
you couldn't see it was I mean, it was that
bad of a jumbo trot. They were coming from Qualcom,
which was a complete hole that needs to be blown
up now with people wanted like remembered, Like you know,
(45:23):
they blow up stand and they implode them imploded, all right,
better to say implode then explode, got it? I disagree
with Dan. It's cool, like two years you playing twenties
seven s and then you moved to. They're gonna move
to the nicest stadium ever built. The one in l
A Is going to be so far in a way
over the top, just because they feel like they have to.
(45:46):
It will be worth the way. It's what happens when
you move into a rental and you're gonna build your
own right, you probably get come close to getting a
divorce with your wife, but when you finally move into
the house, it's got everything you ever wanted. That's what
the that's what the ams will have, That's what the
charge will have.
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Because you come here to have an aside from North Korea, Houston, etcetera, etcetera. UM,
Matt Stafford is now the highest paid player in the
National Football League and that strikes many of you as
(01:08):
the wrong thing, right right, And UH, I would conclude
that many of you haven't really paid attention. And UM,
look the reason the reason war is such a big
stat in baseball is because it's what it's what it's
(01:29):
really about. In the real world. You're you're worth really
two things. One what someone is willing to pay you.
That's important, and to what it would cost to replace you.
How replaceable are you? What's your wins above replacement? And
so while Matt Stafford's record against above five teams is
(01:50):
something like six and thirty five, right, save me five
and forty six, even more five and forty six. And
while some of you will say, you know Tim Tebow
has more career playoff wins in Matt Stafford, you're not
looking at the whole picture. Like if you don't think that, man,
(02:14):
And look, I didn't want to start the show talking
about Matt Stafford making on average twenty seven million dollars
a year more than Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers worse,
you're better than his quarterback. Because this is the cycle.
Joe Flacco became the highest paid player in the National
Football League when he won a Super Bowl and he
was a free agent. Derek Carr was a highest paid
(02:35):
player in the NFL up until this deal. And so
now that thought it is we we just can't happen.
This is the cycle. If you're one of the fifteen
guys that can spin a football, lead a football team,
and can rescue them from a disastrous season, you're going
to be paid at market value. And market value when
you're on the market is one dollar more or one
(02:58):
million dollars more than the guy who's paid above you.
That's the way in which the game has played. Aaron
Rodgers deal will blow this deal out of the water.
And only Tom Brady is taking less because Tom Brady
is taking big signing bonuses so it doesn't count across
against the cap. And he's able to take less because
while his wife's worth more than he is, and he's
been collecting checks for fifteen years, and he knows he's
(03:19):
got to put a great team around him. Here's Matt
Stafford when asked about being the highest paid quarterback that
didn't come into play for me. You know, whatever's gonna
happen is gonna happen for those guys. Uh, you know,
I'm worried about what's what's best for myself and our team,
and and uh that went into a way more than
you know, anything league wide or at the quarterback physician.
(03:41):
So look, I don't like when he says it's not
about being the highest paid player, because it is about
being the highest paid player. All of us could live
on ten million dollars on average per year, especially in Detroit.
Like this deal could have been done you if you said, hey,
I'd like to have a great team around me, surround
me with incredible talent. Remember, Stafford was one of the last.
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He and Sam Bradford are the last two number one
overall picks. Back when you got huge upfront mowning your
signing bonus just just south I believe of fifty million
a year, and of course Bradford got fifty million signing bonus.
Bradford got fifty or fifty one in signing bonus. He
was the last one. So don't fault Stafford for for
(04:25):
getting three huge contracts. His was more luck and timing
as well as skill. But like if you're bothered by
how much money makes, you haven't been paying attention. He's
been really good and he's gotten better. The knock against
him early in his career. First he had some injuries. Second,
he turned the ball over too much. He's cut down
(04:46):
on the turnovers and he's increased. The accuracy completion percentage
has gone up from fifty nine going back to their
four win year. The four win year, by the way,
was when Calvin Johnson had his record setting season. They
were a terrible team, and those two were the only
two things worth watching. He was about passer until two
(05:09):
thousand fourteen, when they won eleven games, and he was
over sixty four the second time in his career, sixty
seven two years ago when he rescued Caldwell season, and
last year when they nearly made the playoffs, they were
at sixty five point three with no running game, Like,
here's a guy with no running game and a bad defense. Statistically,
(05:29):
the right the scoring defense, and some of it is
you score a lot on offense, more possessions, etcetera. But
nineteen thirty, second, nineteen third, and thirteen, when they had
the third rated defense scoring defense in Nation Football League,
that's when they won eleven games. That's the correlation. So
(05:52):
if you wanted to make an argument against Stafford, don't
make an argument over he shouldn't be the highest paid
player in the league. Make the argument that these quarterbacks
should be smarter. They'd win more games if they took
less money and their teams spread around to their defense, which,
by the way, is really what happens when these quarterbacks
signed these deals, is they do take less off the top.
(06:13):
It does hurt them less against cap, but they could
even do even more if they're willing to take less.
That's just not really the way in which the game
is played. Right, by the way, his running rushing offense,
he is the sole focus of their offense. As he goes,
(06:34):
so goes their offense. He is that important and to
replace him is incredibly, incredibly difficult. I mean, they were
searching for twenty five years for a starting quarterback in Detroit.
They finally have one, and they're like, hey, guess what,
we're not letting you go. Yes, teams are clinging with
their starting quarterbacks like you don't want to be a clinger,
(06:56):
like a stage stage three clinger. But the truth is,
like Detroit is receding hairline, protruding belly, not exactly a
catch of an organization. And Stafford, while maybe, uh maybe
(07:16):
Stafford is like one of those tens that knows he
knows his a ten right, He's got a cannon for
an arm, He's got a little cutler to him, right,
where he's he's a little bit more lovable than Cutler,
but it's a little bit more armed talent. Then it's
a little bit more tangibles than intangibles. All that's fine,
but like if you're receiving hairline, dude with a protruding gut,
(07:40):
who's in your forties, Like, go back out in the market,
and if you already have a girl, you better be
that stage three clinger. Do whatever it takes to make
sure she never has a wandering eye. She wants new boobs,
she gets new boobs. She wants a ring, She gets
a ring. Right, Everyone I know knows of type, Like,
(08:00):
oh she's she's always done up. She always takes care
of They go on incredible vacations. Like can they afford
all that? I don't really know, but they do it.
Why do they do it? Because Dud's got a gut
receding hairline, you know, doesn't know when it was next check.
Is not exactly a catch out there in the market.
He doesn't want to be on the market. That's the
Detroit Lions Dolphins have been searching for twenty five years
(08:23):
since Dan Marino left to get a starting quarterback. I mean,
the best Honestly, Cutler was probably the best quarterback the
Bears have had in thirty years. So if if you
think he's not worth it, the NFL will disagree with you,
because it's really hard to evaluate. John always missed three times.
(08:48):
It's three times, you know, And you tell me the
last time a superstar quarterback became a free agent doesn't happen?
You know? It was Peyton Manning, But that only because
Peyton Manning could not feel his fingertips and they had
replaced him with Andrew Luck and he had next surgery
(09:10):
and he was creeping up on forty and no one
knew exactly how that would pan out, and they got
one and a half two really good years out of him.
He as bad as last year. So, yeah, he cashed
on the rookie wage skit sale scale. He'll have made
two million dollars by the time he's thirty three. But
(09:31):
you know what, there's like fifteen guys in the world
that can do what he does, and the lines, you're like,
we got one. We're gonna do whatever it takes to
keep him and keep him happy and then manage the
cap within it and they get cost certainty, and that's
important in any business. So and like if you're bothered
(09:52):
by well, Matt Stafford can't be the highest paid guy.
Derek Carr was until Matt Stafford was until and until
Aaron Rodgers will be. Yeah, for like you know, and
if if this is the indian app and and Andrew
luck was before that. By the way, if this was
the Indianapolis Colts, the Detroit Lions would hang a banner. Uh, August,
whatever day it is, August, Matt Stafford highest paid player
(10:17):
in the NFL, because you know they hang banners for everything, right,
where'st fake punt in NFL history that should get a banner?
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(10:38):
He's a three time All Pro former Lion, and uh, Chris,
I just gotta get your take on the NFL story
of the day, which is Matt Stafford's highest played player
in the nationale Football League as a former Lion. As
a guy who's watched him evolve as a quarterback, what's
your reaction, Well, I like him, and I think the
reaction is to me, he's a top six guy, and
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he's a top aid guy until the next quarterbacks up
for contract, and that guy will be the top aide guy.
But I think, what's the alternative if it's not Matt Ryan.
I mean there there there would be what twenty six
other teams line or matt Stafford will be twenty six
other teams line enough to take Matthew Stafford if you
were a free agent. I mean you think of that position,
Doug An inconsistency of that position, Matthew Stafford. I think
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as he's talented as guy is, he's probably a top
five or six guy in my eyes. Yeah, no, I listen.
I don't know if I would go top five or six,
I would, uh, you know, But I do think he's
in that really close second tier. But I haven't watched
the lines, maybe as close as as you have, but
I've watched the lines really closely, and I've realized defense
hasn't been great. Uh, They've gone through the coaching change,
the running game hasn't been good, and the one guy
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who is who has been there almost their entire offense
has been Stafford and keeping them above water. And when
they have, you know, a couple years ago they had
a really good defense, then they want eleven games. But
he's I mean, look, he cal Well doesn't have a
job if not for or matt Stafford rescuing their past
two seasons. Yeah, and you remember he was nine and
four last year before the injury to his finger, and
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he had a lot of comeback wins in the fourth quarter.
He did it with zero running game and two thousand
and fifteen they were ranked thirtieth. Last year they were
ranked thirty one in the rushing game. Their defense set
a franchise record low and turnovers. And I'm not saying, look,
you know, the quarterback you got to elevate, and I
think he's the elevator as much as he you can.
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If they get some type of running game, I think
that's only going to push his game even higher. And
they should be pretty competitive this year. So I understand it.
I certainly do. I think you need a quarterback to win,
and if you have one of his talented as Matthew Stafford,
and that's the market, you pay the guy. Yep, I said,
I honestly said the exact same thing. Without you knowing it.
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I was like, look like, like what what what are
detroits other options? And you you almost you have to
wrap your You have to be like a stage three clinger, right,
you gotta be. You gotta go over the top so
he never feels like there's ever a reason I have
a wandering eye. And then you build around I guess
the only question is, uh, do you are you? Do
you put too much money into that quarterback and not
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have the ability financially to surround him with the with
the supporting cast so you can have a running game,
so you can have a defense that there in lies. Right. Yeah, well,
I think what you have to do is and you
have to balance your contracts and look at Mirabdullah, if
he's healthy, they have the potential for a running game.
Bob Quinn went out and got t J. Lange and
Rick Wagner's free agents to shore up that offensive line,
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and so, uh, you know, eventually guys still have to play.
And I'm saying that the quarterback position, yes, they get
a lot of money, and they deserve a lot of money.
And who's to say the cap isn't going to go up?
So we don't know exactly what that percentage will be
two years from an hour or three years from now.
But you lock down the most important position on the field. Look,
I know that you can have the best offensive lineman
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in the world, you can have the best corners, best
safeties and world if you don't have a quarterback, it's
not gonna matter, right mate. You got to have a
guy you don't and they got one. Everybody's gonna play
with him. I I feel like, and look at this
is there's no intent for this to be a softball
because your brother is the general manager. But I feel
like the Vikings are the team that were wildly discussed
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last year. Then obviously they had just this mass litany
of injuries, and now like Vegas has bought in because
Vegas is over under his nine and a half on them, um,
and I kind of and I love the addition of
Dalvin Cook, although a rookie. I don't know your thoughts
on how ready to contribute on all three downs you
think he would be. But I kind of feel like
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the Vikings are one of those four or five teams
that were not talking enough about leading up into the season.
And I'm cautiously optimistic because I know all of the
talent that they've been able to acquire. And I think
we were deceived because the line was so bad last
year because of injuries. Am I wrong? Well, different starting
line combinations and and you know, in all fairness about
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to Rick, he's the last one will make excuses. He said, well,
we've got to play better and you gotta get better backups.
That that would be his answer, and that's he'll take
responsibility for that. That being said, though, I think they
can be very good. Uh not after what I watched
on Sunday night though the way they first started at
the first two series when San Francisco dropped fourteen on
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him right off the gate. But again, preseason, what have
you guys? Turn it up when regular season comes. But
guess what it was preseason for the forty niners too.
But potentially, if they can protect the Bradford because I
think he's a very good quarterback, Cook brings them a
little more explosiveness than Adrian brought because I think Adrians
just might have hit his end. And if that offensive
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line can stay healthy and play, then defensively, we know
they have the potential to be a top five defense.
So we'll see how that plays out, But yeah, I
think you're right. The nine and a half sounds like
a good number to me. You mentioned the Niners. Would
they be I mean, like, look, their defense has been
pretty good at times in the preseason. Could they be
a surprise team or is this just the preseason? We
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have to measure ourselves. Um. I think they can win
more games than people think. Uh, what they have, I
don't know, sixty new guys in training camp out the
five or something like that, some crazy number that John
put together to rebuild this. I love the addition of
Kyle Shanahan. I think he's tremendous play color, he has
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a real good feel for the game. Uh, it seems
like the young rookies Reuben Foster is going to be healthy.
He can play the middle linebacker position. I love the
defensive line, so potentially they can. Probably. I think their
ceiling is probably seven maybe eight games would be the
high point. In probably three to four would be the
low point. The Atlanta Falcons lose Kyle Shanahan, how big
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a drop off you think they'll have in terms of
their offense? And last year their offense was remarkable. They've
They've added to the past rush depth, which hurt time
in the Super Bowl. Uh, and they're bringing back, you know,
as Freeman. I don't know people found out. I think
it's earlier today. Cleared for the concussion protocol, won't play
this weekend, but that means he'll play Week one of
the season in Chicago against the Bears. How do you
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think the Atlanta Falcons offense looks without Kyle Shanahan calling plays.
I think it's a little bit of an adjustment. But
you know, Sarkesian is a good play caller. I mean,
you can say what you want about the guy. I
think he's a good football coach and I think he'll
just and it's a little different in the NFL than college. Obviously,
he's gonna work hand in hand with Matt Ryan, and
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those guys sit down and say, what do you like
Matt Ryan. I guess we can call Matt an elite
quarterback at this point. So when you have him throwing
the Julio Jones and a host of other guys and
a two headed monster running back in a really good
offensive line, I think their offense will be moving around
just like it always does. There might be a little
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bit of a Super Bowl hangover, but we'll see. I
think Dan Quinn does a great job but motivating professional
football players and we'll see how how they come back
and respond. It's going to be an adjustment, but they're
really talented, and when you have Matt Ryan, I think
Matt puts you in every ballgame. Chris Pielman joining us
in the Doug Gotlip Show, NFL and Fox analysts getting
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ready for the upcoming season. Dak Prescott twenty three touchdowns,
four interceptions. I don't think anyone expected him to start,
let alone have such an incredible impact with the Cowboys.
But year two probably won't have Zeke maybe for all
of the six games of the suspension. The schedule is
prohibitively more difficult, and now there's the raised expectations because
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there's no romo behind him and it's clearly his team.
What's your thoughts on what we'll see from Dak Prescott
year two as a starter. Well, I think it's a
guaranteed six. I don't think the NFL is going to
rule against itself. I think what's that appeal hearing you
correct me if I'm wrong. I could be totally off
on this, but the only thing the NFL has to
prove to itself for as far as the appellate process goes,
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is that it did not screw up the investigation that
took a year and a half, so they better not
screwed it up. That being said, I think that's it
is by far, what I've seen is my opinion, the
best offensive line in football. They are really, really good,
So I do think they'll be able to absorb the
loss of Zeke. I obviously think Zeke is a there's
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a great football player and has breakaway speed, But I
do think mix Soldan and the Morse will be more
than capable with that offensive line. And plus, uh, I
think Dac has a comfort level and confidence because of
that offensive line and because of the receivers around him,
and including a really good tight end and Jason Witten.
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And you know when you have a good tight end
Doug it occupies safeties and linebackers because you can't match
him up one on one because he's too big for
safeties and he's quick for linebackers. And what that does
it singles up outside guys and got a guy like
Dad's out there running around. Uh, if you get the
ball in the area, those guys usually go get it.
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What about the Eagles. You know, Whence what happened last
year was Whence one of his first three games, so
everybody was was all in on Wentz and then kind
of America, you know this works, we stopped paying attention, right,
so so then you know, then they turned around and
lose four out of five, the only one, I think
two games again until the you know, the last couple
of the seasons. I mean, it was, it was. It
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was not great. What are your thoughts on Wentz and
how we should how we should view him heading into
this season in Philadelphia? Well, I don't know what the
thoughts are in Philadelphia, but I can explain the thoughts
here and with Cleveland fans. It was the Browns fans
they always say we could have had Wentz, and because
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I had thought for a rookie, I don't know what
you thought. Does I thought it was pretty darn good
and I had a chance to do one Philadelphia Eagle
game and some of the things he does is uh
is really um. The one thing I really like about
him is that a lot of guys that come out
of college they throw two guys, they don't throw the spots. Well,
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what I saw last year with Carson was that he
threw the spots. He's really athletic, and he has a
great pocket presence where he doesn't panic in the pocket
and he's not afraid to step into the pocket or
he has a good feel and he's able to get
his feet set and able to throw accurately when there's
a lot of crap running around him in that pocket.
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I think he if he makes a natural improvement from
the first year starter quarterback to the second year starting quarterback,
I think the Eagles can be a threat to anybody
said they play. You mentioned the Cleveland Browns. They've announced
that Deshaun Kaiser is going to be their starting quarterback. Now, Kaiser,
if you would have gone back a year ago because
of his first year, notre day, and he'd be like, okay,
and then he struggled some last year. Uh, And of
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course Brian Kelly had some things that weren't weren't just
glowing praise for him on his way out the door
and he falls to the second round where the Browns
scoop him up. And he's been good for the most
part in the preseason. But I guess questions can any quarterback,
rookie or otherwise survived behind that line. That was the
problems last year. Didn't matter if they had Carson Wins,
the guy would have gotten beat up. Does Kaiser have
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enough around him so that he can just come up
for air during this rookie season? I think so. I
think Isaiah krow Wells are more than capable running back
Duke Johnson back there. They did address offensive wine meats
and in free agency, I think the biggest question marked
and I thought I heard Hughes say this in the
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press conference recently, Um, and now we need to sign
him with surround him with some good receivers. Well what
have you been doing for the last four years? Right?
I mean, if Coleman can stay healthy, the kid from Baylor,
he was hurt last year, the number one pick last
year they got Kenny britt Uh and Joe Coup the
rookie from Miami should be there tight end. Uh. Can
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they get it together? You know the reason why the
Shaun Kaiser is starting because Sean Kaiser is the best
at the position in the building and he gives him
the best chance to win. Is he going to make mistakes, yes,
but the Brown is going to be better than any
ward last year. I would say muggerly better. Now that
means maybe four or five wins. But they were awful.
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I'm awful. It couldn't like them in San Francisco were
It's such a great talent deficit. I've seen that. Have
you seen the Colts this preseason? I feel like the
Colts are The Colts are in that in that caliber
of absolutely no talent, you know, and that if Luck
comes back and wins any games, it's a miracle. Yeah,
it's gonna be Andrew Luck that wins those games, exactly right.
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I think Luck it's worth probably five wins on his own.
Without Luck, I think you look at the Colts, maybe
two wins, three wins, and that's not we even we
I mean touches the Jets yet. So that's that's another story.
Hey man, listen, I'm excited to hear you call games
on Fox this year. I love you when you called
college games. Gonna love you when you call an tell
(24:00):
games again this season. Fox. Thanks so much for spending
some time with us. You got a dog anytime, man,
Thank you, pleasures mind Chris Pielman. Fox Sports Radio has
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of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot Com and
within the I Heart Radio app. When Jerry Jones supports
Ezeki Elliott and says that there is no evidence of
domestic violence, that perched your ears up. That's like, well,
(24:22):
he's just protecting this guy. This is boys will be
boys and boys protecting boys. When you hear the actual
context of his defense of Zeke Gillett, it might be
a little different. Take a listen. I'm not anticipating any
thing timeline wise. Unfortunately, you get confused in this conversation.
Every person that has any offense at all understands domestic
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violence and bores it. What we're trying to be relative
to addressing it in the league has all kinds of issues,
and it should. It's a very complicated issue because you
have no evidence here. That's all I want to say
about it. But it creates quite a convoluted approach by
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Zeke's representatives and by the league that I really hate
is a focus of all of our attention. That's from
one of five three of the fan uh in Dallas
where Jerry appeared earlier today. Look, the issue is and
this is this is where I actually feel for Jerry Jones, right,
(25:31):
Um that even though he was head of the Battered
Women's Organization of Arkansas for the first ten years that
he was an owner of the Cowboys. He's known as
the guy who gave Greg Hardy a chance. And Greg
Hardy was never able to understand exactly what people believe
(25:54):
that he did. And look, we want to be completely
fair with Greg Hardy. Let me because very Greg Hardy,
the NFL came to there, um came to their findings.
After a court of law did find him guilty, but
then the case was thrown out because it's re tried.
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He's it's found to have not Actually, if you look
at his if you look at his the actual his
actual sheet, there's nothing there. He was never convicted of anything.
He was found guilty, but then when you appeal it
in the state of North Carolina goes to a higher court,
it throws out the first trial. And then she no
(26:35):
showed because she was paid off by him. But we
still don't know what is real. He never varied from
his side of the story, she never from hers. But
I do think it's it's safe to say that Jerry
Jones signing Greg Hardy was a disaster because he was
never able to to appear in any way contrite. Plus
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he had the coke charge, Plus he just this Greg
Hardy is a jerk. It's just a jerk. And I
understand that if you're charged with something you didn't do
or something is inflated in terms of what you did.
But he could just never he could just never be
contrite in any way. And so because Jerry carries that,
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because of so many other things that cowboys have done,
some of the things Jerry himself has done, they're seen
as the bad boys to the NFL right now, and
they get away there because they're the cowboys. But I
actually think he does a really good job in his
Jerry Jones way of saying like, look, I'm not of course,
we want to get rid of domestic violence. Everybody knows
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anything about, understands it, abhors it, and the league is
trying to get it out. You know. We we don't
want our players being seen as women beaters. But there's
what he's saying. When there's complex issues means there are
times in which people make accusations which are not curate. Now,
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Ben Roethlisberger was suspend i think six games for allegations
which never came to chargers outside of Atlanta, Georgia. Remember that,
and that was kind of the cumulative fact he had
the year before he had gone over the handlebars of
his motorcycle and dinged up his head. Remember that it
was reduced to four. Greg Hardy's was also reduced to four.
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But this was before we really got a consciert before
a rice, right before a rice, After a rises is
after a rice. But the point is that that he
was found to be uh, he was found to have
he was he was suspended even though no chargers were
ever brought against him. This has Ben Roethlisberger and Jerry's
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like saying, hey, look, I know the evidence and there
is digital evidence of of of the accuser making up
some of the allegations. Does that mean she made up
all of the allegations? The NFL, at least their investigators
believe not. Here's the tricky part. The tricky part is
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that you have these accusations out there, you have this
through investigation. There's the assumption from the prosecutors that something happened,
and something happened is enough for them to sit him down.
And they also coupled it with the fact that he
pulled a girl's shirt down, I'll look. I don't. I'm
not a middle schooler anymore, so I don't snap girls braws.
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I don't smack girls on the tush. I would never
flash a flash somebody's breast. It was a St. Patrick's
Day parade, And if you've been to a parade where
they're throwing beads, women will flash themselves. Doesn't mean that
you should flash for them. Again, none of this makes
it okay. But just because you flash somebody's breast is
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not I mean, you will smack a woman around like.
These two things do not necessarily correlate. Be sure to
catch live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays
at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in. Jason
Lockhamp for j LC works for CBS Sports and CBS
Sports dot Com. He's an NFL inside and a very
very good one. Well, what's the league's reaction to staffords contract? Oh,
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this was the state of complain, you know, I mean,
he wasn't going anywhere. The price point is what it is,
based on the inflation of quarterback contracts, based on the
Caps starting to significantly grow the deeper we get into
the CBA. Based on the fact that three teams are
moving and twenty nine owners are collecting over a billion
dollars from them, you know, in the in the years
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to come because of the relocation feast, and based on
the fact that Matt Stafford is a very good quarterback
who was the last of the bonus babies who came
into the league under the old c b A is
the first overall pick talketing million before he can sign
a contract, before he ever drew a pass right. That
was the that was the full guarantee that he was
walking into. So timing is everything and he's had impectable
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timing and him going into his contract here now you know,
after a cousinings being franchised the second time, and you
know the Ravens having to redo Flacco's deal a few
years ago because of the bubble that they were meeting
um in terms of his cap numbers and all that stuff.
I mean, this is this is how it works. I mean,
this is the cost of building business, especially under those
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circumstances which again predate this t b A, which has
so much cost certainty in terms of rookie wave scale. Now, Um,
I've watched a lot of preseason football, kind of an
uncomfortable amount of preseason football. I know, I know, uh,
and I don't want to make any any grand statements
for the most part, but the cults are bad without
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and back. They are bad. Yeah, you're not going out
of all there. Okay, They're okay. So but I read where,
um where Chuck Bagano said like he hasn't even seen
Andrew Luck throw, like he has never actually been, which
which I find hard to believe. But I also I'm
I'm wondering about Andrew Luck because this is some like
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state held secret as to his progress. Of all people
that would know, you would know, tell me what's going
on with Andrew Luck. Yeah, there there is. There is
no real timetable for him. They're going to be incredibly
cautious with how they moved forward with him. This isn't
you know, even a knee or quad or you know,
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even an elbow. I mean, this is his money maker,
this is his labor room. This is you know, the
the exact skeletor and and you know kinesiology required to
hoist the football the way he does. And he didn't
have the surgery all that long ago, and he hasn't
really been able to do a whole lot to this point.
So look, I was at the camp probably three weeks ago.
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It was early in training camps, and I reported at
the time that this guy is gonna miss regular sets
of time, and you know they don't want to commit
to how much. But based on everything, I'm here and
he's not ready to play a regular season game week one,
and and that's still the case now. I stole him
of the mind that it is not impossible that they
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just put them on pop. I know that thing he
misses six weeks, but if they if they're a week
from now and he's not practicing, he's gonna miss at
least three or four. And if you pluck them, you
take it away. It's not pressure of what is you playing,
what is you practicing every single day? That team is
building for the long term now. Anyway, under a rookie
GM Chris Ballot, I mean, I feel fast for Chuckle Ghana,
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But like the goal isn't necessarily to win a game
in September with Andrew Luft. The goal is to have
a good team around Andrew luck by next season where
maybe you win that mediocre division. News flash, it's not
happening this year. So you know, I expect discretion to
be the better part of valor, and then to continue
taking a long view with someone who they've you know,
guaranteed seventy five million dollars two over the first three
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years of the deal. And again it is his thrilling shoulders,
so um, you know, I would put I would frankly
put them on if there's anything close to him missing,
you know, at least the first months of the season,
I would put him on top. I would also say
they may need that roster spot because Scott Tolzen I
don't think he'll get through two or three games with
him FACETI on production and or potential for injury. I
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think they should just start the Morris kid. But they're
probably going to need a multitude of quarterbacks to to survive,
you know, for four to six weeks, if that's how long.
What is out anyway? Uh brock Osweller, I guess he
got beat out by Deshaun Kaiser, right, So look, they
and it was it was a strange fit anyway, and
they thought about trading him the second they absorbed that
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salary from from Houston in fairness, but like, look, he
was given some opportunity to win the job and he
did not. So what what what happens to Brock now? Well,
I don't think they're gonna be able to move him.
I mean again, from the moment they acquired him. It
was a paper transaction, and they immediately as soon as
they got confirmation from the trade papers from the league
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office on the first day of the league year, they
were immediately calling teams left and right saying we'll we'll
eat half of this thing and give you a pick
to get a pick back in return. So you know
he hadn't That was six months ago. They haven't been
able to get squatted for him. I don't see how
they will now after you know, he couldn't beat out
Cheschler or or TiSER, and frankly, I don't think you
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beat out Hogan because I didn't. They'd rather keep hoping
than this guy. Because they put him on the practice clad.
Somebody else might sign them and they're gonna beat numbers
back there. And who wants the number four quarterback? Making
eighteen million dollars, you can make it eighteen times more
than your starter. I don't know how that guy that
had plays up and I don't see It's not like
Oswald was always a great guy. He's a team leader.
He's gonna show these guys the role. She's great in
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the quarterback room. Again than Joshua Town we're talking about.
This is brock Oswalluse. I think they just eat it.
You know, they spent no money for three years there.
They tore their team down. The owner was, you know,
stuff in his pockets more or less. I mean they're
letting free agents, young free a just leave the building.
They have more tap space than they could spend in
four all seasons, much less one. I mean, maybe you
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just take the hit and it's auditioned by subtraction and
you it is what it is is you paid money
for those drafts sits. When I am you know your
trade and cap space and money for a draft draft
stage asset trade act. I actually I do too. And
I actually think they did it to to raise because
you know, they have to hit that floor of the
cast space. They have to spend something you can't just
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you can't not spend at all. And they're just this
is their creative way of spending enough. Jason lack Camphora
joining us. Um, boy, it sure feels like the Buffalo
Bills are also tanking. Like Reggie Ragland is gone. And
I know, different GM, different head coach, but you know,
another player dealt out of out of Buffalo. Um. This
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this is what it appears to be, right, Yeah, I
mean I wrote a column about this. I was at
the game on Saturday against the Ravens when they threw
Marcel baffe Us out and said, you didn't get your
way home. If you can't, you know, get to the
stadium with the rest of your teammates. There's new sheriffs
in town. I mean, it was Lady Fair inmates running
the asylum under Doug Waley and Rex Ryan. It just was.
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And it was in fighting and back fighting between the
coaches in the front office, and it was playing favorites,
and it was all about Sammy Watkins because the GM
gave up way too much and moved up in a
wide receiver rich draft to get him. And you know,
after they'd already gone all in on EJ. Manual and
then you know that it's then they're all about card
l joes. Just go look at all the sort of
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favorite guys over the last couple of years ago. Look
at all their you know, recent first and second round picks.
They're gone. And there was a lot of drafting hurt players.
You know, Ragling he was hurt when you got him,
Shack was he's hurt when you got him. Sammy Watkins
had a foot issue when you took him. And they're
not gonna recommit on second contracts to these guys, and
they have their questions and in Raglan's case, he doesn't
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really fit the scheme anyway. Yeah, they're they're they're not
playing around that anymore. Man. I mean, I'm happy today.
A couple of years to go, Marshall Darris would have
walked in that locker room. Maybe he would quietly be
given a fine. Probably Rex would have just said thanks
for showing up, and you know, go go out there
and start stretching with the rest of the guys, and
that would have been it. This new regime, they're looking
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at it an opportunity to send a signal like that's
not you know, we don't condone that, we don't stand
for that. You're a highest paid guy and you can't
get to the stadium with the rest of your teenage
go home. I love it. I mean it's much needed there.
If they're everybody changed the culture. If they're ever gonna snap,
I'll say an eighteen year playoff droute because the news
last day't going to playoffs this year. This is how
(38:34):
you have to do it. And I love the Walkings
trade too. So loaded with draft fixed two in the first,
second and third round next year, if they need a quarterback,
they'll get one. They're not gonna trade shitty McCoy. They're
not gonna trade Tyrod Taylor, but anything else is probably
on the table right now. Um okay in this because
they're also in the division with the Pats. But the
pat suffered a devastating loss or number one receiver last
(38:55):
year was Julian Edelman. He they lose them to a
tour in a c L. Now, look, Patriots have have
built themselves not just on Tom Brady, but also their
ability to make waiver wire acquisitions right like this is
and find guys are the right fit for what they're doing.
The Legarrett Blunts of the world, hell, the element Edelman's,
the trade for Welker, all of those things have been
have been just just geniuses for how they do what
(39:17):
they do. And this year is different. Jason. As you know,
it's gonna be a wild weekend cutting down from ninety
to fifty three. There's gonna just be a flood of
guys that are gonna be available. They gotta go out
and sign somebody, don't they. I don't know. It's devastating
for Julian Edelman obviously, um and what he means to
Tom Brady and that locker room. But from a pure
(39:39):
production standpoint, I mean, he's a special player. But I
don't know who they signed who's going to make that team.
If you're looking talking about pure pass catches. You still
got in Mondola, right, You've got Grant coming back, he's
in the slot. You've got Hogan who is no joke
and he's now another offseason with Brady and they're even
more sympatical. You've got to kid Mitchell, who really chan
(40:00):
one last year late when he got healthy and was
a deep threat. You know you've added uh uh, the
kid from from New Orleans, right, you traded for for him.
I mean, chief, if there's anywhere on that roster where
I think they could withstand it, it's it's probably there.
And you know they've you know, they've always got some
(40:21):
undrafted kid or some recent late draft pick whom McDaniels
and Belichick are quietly high on and who you know
already will have a bigger role than everything. And they've
got like three guys who can catch the ball in
the back field. So my concern with them is just
pass rush. But you know what, I think they're gonna
play with the lead so much does I think the
offense is gonna be so robust that I don't even know. Man,
(40:42):
They're gonna have teams thrown on first and second down.
They could pin their ears back, and you know, and
Belichick and and and Patricia will scheme it up and
I think they'll be okay. But my issue with them
is still I just don't see a lot of natural
pants rushers on that team. I just don't know how
much it will hold them back. Gonna be fast. And
last thing, Zeki Elliott. Apparently the uh the appeal hearing
(41:04):
h is happening. Yeah, what's next for Zekiel in your opinion, Well,
we'll get a decision here. I would suspect by five
pm Eastern time Friday afternoon. Uh, maybe it gets reduced.
I can't imagine it gets vacated. Short of it getting vacated.
I expect being his legal team to um look for
a jurisdiction where they feel like they could get a
(41:27):
judge who might be sympathetic to issuing him and uh
some sort of stay, you know, an opportunity to uh,
you know, get his day in court saying that you know,
this has violated his workplace rights. And in the meantime,
a judge mcgranted and junction that allowed him to play
until that case is heard. And as we know, these
things have a way of taking a long time to
(41:48):
be heard. Is there a judge who given the c
b A and given the leagues um, you know called
domestic violence policy where it's specifically sets six games for
a first offense and you don't have to be found
guilty in the court of wall you know, is there
a judge out Darren would grants at I don't know,
I mean, but we we've we've we've certainly seen a
lot of these instances end up in port in the past. Jason,
(42:10):
you do a great job, man. Look forward to reading
your next piece. Follow him on Twitter as well. He's
Jason lack Camphora. It's CBS Sports dot Com. J l
C Jason, thanks so much for joining us on Fox
Sports Radio. Body have a thank you. Fox Sports Radio
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and within the I Heart Radio app. Did you guys
(42:31):
hear what Dan Vouch said on on l A news station. Yeah,
Canucks is a news station in l A. And he
had this to say about the Chargers playing its Stubbub
It is embarrassing I think for both the Chargers in
the National Football League to be playing in a seven
thousand sea stadium. In fact, the Chargers first game ever
(42:53):
when they beat the New York Titans in the preseason
game in the Coliseum in thousands, Both the city in
the ownership are to blame for where the Charges are
right now. Wow, Okay, that Loomer, he's an all time great,
Sandy Good Charger Hall of Famer. He's actually calling the
preseason games and I look, I'm gonna just say this,
(43:15):
I completely disagree completely. I was. I've gone to a
preseason game there. Now. Look, is it is stub Hub
Stubbub Center? Is it rinky dink in terms of all
the surrounding stuff? Like, yeah, it's on a college campus
at cal State Domingus Hills. There's like a couple of
strip malls, Like I don't understand how they've had the
Galaxy there for years and no one's built like a
nice restaurant. There's no place to go, so you can
(43:36):
make like a day of it, right. Parking is ridiculously
expensive and and there's a long trek because it's just
not built like a big time stadium, but it is intimate.
They do some cool things like the corners of stubbub
And I don't know if they have this for big
soccer match if you guys have been there, but they
have They bring in food trucks, right, they have normal
(43:56):
concessions and they have food trucks. So like you walk,
you're still in the stadium, but you walk down these
steps and there's like food trucks there that you can
get food. You can get food from. It was kind
of an l A city kind of feel to it.
Look it's random, but like, hey, Dan, how about doing
a little research and knowing that the Titan the Titans
(44:17):
when they were the Oilers. Remember the Titans when they
were the Oilers and they moved do you remember where
they played before they opened their new stadium, play the
Liberty Bowl, like nobody remembers, like the Rams are planned
to call seem calls him is a dump. It is
a dump. You can be critical like Stubbubs cool. It's
(44:37):
kind of a cool thing for like two years, they're
gonna play in a place to which there are no
bad seats and oh yeah, by the way, as bad
as thousand seats stubbub might be. How many people went
to a Chargers game the last ten years. It was
the oldest stadium in the NFL. You couldn't get WiFi.
The big screen look like an old big screen, right,
(44:59):
Like there was actually those three light bulbs that people
used to have, Remember the three light bulbs in the
big screen that you while you walk in front of
you couldn't see it was I mean, it was that
bad of a jumbo trot. They were coming from Qualcom,
which was a complete hole that needs to be blown
up now with people wanted like remembered, Like you know,
(45:23):
they blow up stand and they implode them imploded, all right,
better to say implode then explode, got it? I disagree
with Dan. It's cool, like two years you playing twenties
seven s and then you moved to. They're gonna move
to the nicest stadium ever built. The one in l
A Is going to be so far in a way
over the top, just because they feel like they have to.
(45:46):
It will be worth the way. It's what happens when
you move into a rental and you're gonna build your
own right, you probably get come close to getting a
divorce with your wife, but when you finally move into
the house, it's got everything you ever wanted. That's what
the that's what the ams will have, That's what the
charge will have.
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