September 7, 2017 • 49 mins
Doug talks about Seahawks DE Michael Bennett’s situation and why he might be exaggerating the circumstances a little bit. He tells you why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell had the perfect response when asked about Colin Kaepernick still being a free agent. Plus, Peter King from The MMQB stops by to preview a big opening weekend in the NFL.
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This is the best of the Doug gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio Boom, What Up America, Doug gott
Leap Show Live in direct from the City of Angels.
NFL season is here. Pat's Chiefs Tonight's tonight, Foxboro Gillette Stadium.
We'll cover it, we'll talk about it, We'll get to it.
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Dion Branch is gonna join us. Plus college football Meaningless
game tonight, better game tomorrow. An incredible weekend of games
in front of us. Lamson, Auburn, Georgia, not Trere Dame,
USC Stanford, Ohio State taken on Oklahoma. We got great,
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great games this weekend. Plus the NFL uh first weekend
is just littered with games. I'll give you some of
my picks in terms of the upcoming season, some of
the underrated teams and overrated teams in the upcoming NFL season.
We got a lot to get to. But what was
the story of the night is still the story of
the day. It's Michael Bennett who had a press conference
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for the Seattle Seahawks and claimed that he was racially profiled,
and that story became Twitter. Fidler. In fact, the Commissioner
of the National Football League. Roger Goodell actually released a
statement to which he supported Michael Bennett. The Seattle Seahawks
supported Michael Bennett. You know who doesn't support Michael Bennett's claims.
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That would be the Las Vegas Police Department. Yesterday, Kevin
um mcmayhill, who is the under sheriff of the Las
Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, said quote, I can I can
tell you as I stand here today, there is no
evidence of that that being racially profiling. I see no
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evidence that race played any role in this incident. Remember,
in his statement, Michael Bennett not only said that he
was racially profiled, he said it took an eternity due
to the brutal way in which officers treated him. Mcmahill
said that the defensive end was in custody approximately ten
minutes then released. In the ten minutes in which he
was detained, he was. The reason he was detained was
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explained to him by a supervisor who was on duty.
And look, here's the thing, and this relates to Ezekiel Elliott,
and it also relates to the protest which I think
you're gonna see in the Nation Football day. Gonna want
to get to it a couple of things I tell
people all the time. There are no more secrets, only
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effects yet to be revealed. One of the facts that
has been revealed that has a lot of people bothered
is the fact that the officer who was arresting him
did not turn on his body camera. Now in the
in the middle of nowhere in rural Mississippi, or in Oklahoma,
or a even California, in Eureka, California, where there aren't
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cameras anywhere, that might have been a problem. In Las Vegas, Nevada,
when an incident occurs starting in a casino and then
goes out until As Vegas Bolevard, Flamingo Boulevard, and and
the strip, this is not an issue. It's just not.
There are cameras everywhere in Vegas. Everybody knows that. But
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one of the problems with cameras is depending on what
you see or where you might see what, you're not
getting the full context. And the Las Vegas Police Department
and the Las Vegas Police Union, they are going to
the mattresses against Michael Bennett, going to the mattresses. Uh, look,
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it's really kind of remarkable, remarkable what's happened. The Las
Vegas Police Union obviously not a fan of the protests
for the for the national anthem. Uh there there quote
that everyone's gonna be reacting to. While while the NFL
make condoned Bennett's disrespect for our national for our American flag,
and everything it simbolizes, we hope uh the league will
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not ignore Bennett's false accusations against our police officers. Look,
here's what they're saying happened, and Michael Bennett is not
actually disputing that. He is disputing the fact that they
arrested him or didn't even rest him. They they handcuffed
him only because he's black. And they're like, look, we
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got footage. We thought there was an active shooter inside
a casino. This is a big, big thing. Our police
officers go into a casino, we see a guy crouched
behind a game of machine and then when when they
believe when they when he saw them, he went he
ran for it, which, by the way, I'm just gonna
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tell you, I don't know how I would react in
a casino if there was a shooting. Do you know
how you'd react. I don't. I don't know how i'd
react if there was an active shooter. I don't know
what I would hide behind. I don't know where I
would hide. I don't know if I would run, if
I would run. I think if I would run, I
would zig zag, wouldn't You would zig zag and then
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right back kind of weave back and forth, thinking if
the guy shoots, that will miss. I don't know. So
I actually think that even though, even though police officers
came in and we're trying to identify a potential shooter
at the scene of a potential crime, and they walk
in completely blind, I don't think Michael Bennett's reaction is unreasonable.
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You hide behind something big and metal, hoping it deflects
any bullets to come your way, and then if you
see an opening the exit, you make a run for it.
That's reasonable. I also would tell you it's kind of
reasonable for the cops to think, Hey, this guy sees us,
he's running from us, maybe he has something to do
with what took place. Also reasonable. And while you may
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be bothered by the way in which they handcuff a
potential suspect by putting their knee their knee in his back.
He's six ft pounds. It's not like they can sit
there and go um sir, could you please put your
hands behind you so that we can just lightly put
these handcuffs on. That's not the reality of how police
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officers are trained or how they should in fact do
their job. They try and contain a situation, trying to
understand who the actual perpetrators are if a crime actually existed,
and then once you figure out this guy is not
a criminal, you'll let him go, which is what they
said they did. But the NFL, the Seahawks, and most
importantly Michael Bennett, there's egg on his face once they
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release more tapes because they have them. Like I'm not
I do. I think that the union is always going
to come out and defend their officers, probably just like
the NFL p a UH defends their players even when
they do something wrong. That's where the NFL, that's what
unions do. When the police department says, hey, we don't
see anything you having to do with racial profiling. We
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don't see it. We reviewed the tapes. The department knows
that's potential for a lawsuit if they are in fact
lying or making it up or making misstatements. They understand
the political climate and they're willing to go out there
and put their under sheriff out there and go like, hey,
that didn't didn't happen that way. We have video footage.
It wasn't an eternity that he was detained for. It
was ten minutes. We have the time stamp on it.
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It might have felt like an eternity. It might have
felt like he thought that he was brutalized by police,
but this is actually what happens when you're handcuffed. Sorry,
not sorry, we're just doing our jobs. By the way,
police officer is in fact the worst job you can
ever have. It just is. I know there are benefits,
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I know their post career benefits, but no, you know,
like God bless police officers, the good ones especially um,
it's the worst job. The second worst job, I believe
is the person who works in the baggage claim office. Right,
no one ever goes into the baggage claim office at
an airport. What to just say, hey man, thanks man,
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doing a good job. Like, no one says that you
only go in there if you have lost your luggage.
It's the only time you go in there. And when
you lost you you lose your luggage. You're pissed, aren't you,
And you're gonna blame the guy who or lady who's
behind the counter, and they had nothing to do with it.
They've never seen, they've never touched, they've never even approached
your bag. They don't know your name, they know your flight,
they know anything about. Their whole job is to be
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a buffer between them and your anger towards the airline.
And by the way, the airline didn't have anything to
do with it. It was the baggage handlers or maybe
something got misrouted. Right. That's the second worst job. Worst
job is police officer. Here's the thing, this is like
the Ezekie Elliott thing. I like everybody who has any
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soul in America is anti domestic violence, but I don't
actually I think there's enough here to think that Ezekie
Elliott may not have done what he was accused of doing. Right, So,
I can be anti domestic violence but say I don't
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think you should suspend a Zeke Elliott. I can be
anti police brutality and say I don't think this is
police brutality or racial profiling. Do you do you understand
that you can still be pro something but think this
doesn't actually fit what we're fighting against. And as we
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get ready for an NFL season where players are going
to throw their support blindly behind Michael Bennett Las Vegas
Police Department in addition to the unions like we've got
a hundred twenty cameras. It didn't go down that way.
Either Michael Bennett wants attention or he doesn't know how
this goes down. He's not being reasonable. He waited two
weeks to make these accusations and make it look bad.
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And oh yeah, by the way, he happens to bring
this negative attention to police where it doesn't actually exist.
This is a bad look for everybody who threw support
behind Bennett blindly. But that's what we do with social media,
so we do Twitter mob, social media mob. They're out
the Las Vegas Police party a bad, bad, bad bad
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But or they walked into a situation where they didn't
know friend or foe. As I said yesterday, it's not
like they're wearing jerseys. Oh, good guys wearing the red jerseys. Tonight,
bad guys wearing the white. They handcuffed a suspect who
was running from them, and when they got the information
they needed, they released him. Be sure to catch live
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editions of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Here was the Commissioner of
the NFL on First Things First on Fox Sports. Ones answer,
I'm not a football expert. I'm a huge fan. I
have a role as commissioner also, But for me, I
watched the games and enjoy it, and I let the
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football people make those decisions. And the reality is there's
a lot thirty two different decisions, right, and multiple decisions
within an organization, So there's always a dispute and the
idea of who can play and who can't play, who's
best for our system and not best for our system,
our decisions that should be made by those thirty two teams, right.
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I oh, one, I don't want any part of it too.
I'm not really a football expert. Which again, like I
understand that US on radio and US on TV who
are not football experts can form an opinion, but like
that's really not the job of the commissioner, And so
he didn't answer while answering, but at least he answered
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with a non answer. Do you understand the difference? Like
instead of saying I don't want to talk about it.
Instead of saying that's not my role, he essentially said
I don't want to talk about that. That's not my role.
But he did so in very elecut fashion, right, like
there's a at least he didn't go to like political
talking points. Let me tell you about my plans for healthcare,
right like you at least he didn't go there. But
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I kind of thought it was the perfect answer, like, hey,
I'm a football fan. I'm a football guy, but whether
or not he belongs on a team, like, that's not
really my that's not really what I do. There's thirty
two teams, and they make each individual decision. The Seahawks
had him in there, they decided to pass. Why they
decided to pass. He wanted to be a starter. What
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that translates into is starting money is Russell Wilson didn't
want him there is They just didn't feel like, look,
we played the sound. Did we play the sound for
you or was it only you know I played the
sound for you last week? Right? And Derek Carr what
he said about match Shop, Do you guys remember that,
Did we play that ramos or did I just play
that in my head that I played it on cowherd man.
Maybe that's what it was. There's a cut of what
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Derek Carr said a week ago at a press conference.
And remember Derek Carr his rookie year, he wasn't drafted,
He wouldn't draft in the first round, one draft from
the first round. And car said that when he was
named the starter, he thought he was going to be traded.
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Like He's like, I thought I played pretty well. I thought,
you know, Matt schob is the starter here. I thought
I was going to be moved. That's what he honestly thought.
They called him in and said you're the new starting quarterback.
You're the new starting quarterback, and he said he walked
into the quarterback room and Matt shob blew him away
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with this comment where he's like, look, I'm mad, I'm upset,
but you know what, from this point forward, my job
is to get you ready to be in the best
quarterback in the NFL. Because Kobe Bryant has always been
in alpha always and so to say like, hey, Kobe,
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we want you to facilitate that ain't what Kobe does.
There was no plan B for Kobe Bryant. It's the
same thing for Colin Kaepernick. Is when he was the
backup in San Francisco, he was doing everything in his
power to get ready to being a starter. I remember
he was the second round draft pick and they wanted
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him to eventually to take Alex Smith's body. Eventually did
take Alex Smith's spot. That was a different role than
the one they would have him in if he was
in Seattle. Seattle didn't work, Baltimore didn't work. We now
know why. Ray Lewis told us why on inside the NFL,
Miami wouldn't work. One reason Gays of course at a
relationship with Cutler, and I'm sure part of part of
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the issue was the city didn't exactly want to throw
their arms around a dude who were a Fidel castor shirt.
And that's where ROGERI does not wrong. Thirty two teams
have thirty two different decisions, right, Minnesota Vikings. Is he
better than Sam Bradford? I think the answers no. Could
he be a backup there? Yeah? Potentially. Sam Bradford always
gets hurt. But they've got Teddy Bridgewater who's still not ready.
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But they can't they can't kick away their investment in
Teddy Bridgewater getting back and make Sam Bradford uneasy considering
he's coming off a year which he surprised people with
the highest completion percentage in the history of the National
Football League. Are they're gonna put him in Philadelphia? Why
he's never gonna play ahead of Carson Wentz? And what
you want in Philadelphia is a veteran quarterback who, like
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Matt Shop when Derek Carr was the starter, would do
everything in his power to get him ready to be
in better So it might not be the answer that
you wanted to hear from Roger Goodell, but I think
it was the perfect answer. Fox Sports Radio has the
best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of
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our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within
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kick it off than Peter King m m QB is
of course the website you have to go to. It's
got outstanding stuff, and he does the tour of all
the camps. He knows so much about the game that
we just want to learn. He's kind of to join
us now on the Doug Gottlam Show on Fox Sports Radio. Peter,
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thanks so much for being a part of the show.
There is a presumption from so many that it's the
Patriots and everybody else in the a f C. Do
you see it that way? Um, well, Doug, good to
be with you two. I think that there's a chance
that that could be it, and it's certainly the odds
are that that's going to be it. But the reason
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why I really don't believe it is for a couple
of reasons. I mean, as Bill polly And said early
in the offseason, you know, Patriots are not untouchable. They
they just finished an off season. Uh, you know, there's
a lot is up in the air with them. They
just placed Malcolm Mitchell on i R today. Uh so
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they're receiving group is going to be different, and you know,
they really had to scrap and claw and come back
from a huge deficit to to win the Super Bowl.
So you know, again, I do think they're the best
team in the a f C, but I absolutely don't
think they're untouchable. I would I tend to agree with you.
Malcolm Mitchell also out first eight weeks. Uh so no
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Malcolm Mitchell and no Julian Edelman. Uh. They did make
the trade to get Philip Doorset. We'll see how much
we see him tonight on the other side. Tonight he's
got the kan City Chiefs and everybody's raving about the
armed town of pat Mahomes, and the Chiefs is like, look, relax,
it's Alex Smith is the guy. Do you believe that
that that's the that's exactly how it will fall, or
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do you think there's ultimately a place to which they say, hey,
Alex Smith's got that ceiling, and Mahomes can win us
a game in the postseason with his arm town. You know,
I think it's all dependent on on Alex Smith's play. Um.
I think that the easiest thing is to say is
the Chiefs are saying that Alex Smith is the quarterback
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this year and then we'll see what happens next year.
But I think it's silly to make any pronouncements on
September seven about what's going to happen at quarterback for
a team that spent two number one draft choices to
draft a quarterback of the long term future. Um, you know,
to to to automatically assume he's not going to play
at some point this year. I think Alex Smith has
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that decision in his hands. He needs to play well,
he needs to limit his mistakes. He needs to win
some of the games that in the past they haven't won.
Tonight would be one of them. Um. One of the
things about this game that I find really really interesting
is that I'd say, of all the teams the Patriots
have had defending Super Bowls, UH, defending championships, rather, um,
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this is the one where it seems to me you
want to get him early in the year because you know,
with um, Philip or setting, Brandon Cooks out wide, with
Dwayne Allen spelling, Rob Gronkowski a lot with Rex Burkhead,
with Mike Gillisle, they got five huge elements in their
passing game, UH and running game. Who weren't there a
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year ago? And in the case of Philip Door said
weren't there a week ago? You know? So, Um, there's
a lot of adjustment that the Patriots are going to
have to make on the fly. I just think it's
going to be really interesting to watch how long it
takes Tom Brady. You know, Tom Brady told me early
in this offseason when I asked him, it's amazing your
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chemistry with Malcolm Mitchell and Chris Hogan, and he said
to me, hey, a hundred and eleven practices. So you know,
it's gonna take a while, say them, to get them
all on the same page. It's just not going to
happen in the first game of the year. But then
they have this weird schedule, Peter where out of the
by they go to Denver to Oakland, Miami at home,
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to Buffalo to Miami to Pittsburgh, like five of six
on the road, culminating uh in the in in the
Pittsburgh game, which I'm I'm sure will be flexed, but
I mean, I don't almost feel like that one's gonna
be flat. I almost already call it being flexed. Um.
That's so they should be better in the second half
of the season if they get if they're healthier, but
their schedule is prohibitably more difficult because of the five
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out of six on the road in the second half
of the season. Well it is. But I mean, I've
always thought this about the Patriots, that home and road. Um,
they went through about a ten year period where their
offense was almost exactly the same at home as it
was on the road. I don't think I'm not saying
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that they're impervious and they would rather play on the
road than playing at home. But I think that's becoming
less and less a factor as years go on in
the NFL, just because I think teams are so well
suited to travel now other than to travel in in
bad weather. And for the Patriots that doesn't matter because
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they're used to playing in bad weather. Well that's the
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King joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show. All right,
let's move to the NFC. Start with the Cowboys. Um
Zeke Elliott is going to play Sunday Night against the
Giants instead of getting into the Zeke and and ultimately
what what plays out here? Just look the Giants of
the one team that figured out the Cowboys last year.
Feels like the Giants think they're better than last year
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and the Cowboys super talented but different than last year.
What are your thoughts in the game? Forget about the
Zeke stuff. Well, I think the one thing about the
Cowboys is that Rod Mayor and Elly had to use
scotch tape and bailing wire last year to put together
a good defense, a good enough defense, and he's got
even a bigger job to do. A secondary is extremely young,
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they don't have a legitimate pass rush threat, so he's
gonna have to invent that just like he did last year.
I think the other thing that would be slightly concerning
is that you know, they they all of a sudden
now have to get three running backs right now ready
to play for this season, Ezekiel Elliott, Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris,
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because they're all going to have to play significant roles.
My big problem right now with Dallas is that you know,
to me, in my opinion, when you look at when
you look at the defense that they have against the
Giants coming up, I mean, the Giants have a huge
edge on defense right now coming into this game. So
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I think I think this is gonna this is not
going to only going to have to be in Ezekiel
Ellie a game, but Dak Prescott is going to have
to make four or five very very big plays in
this game for Dallas to win. What about what about
Dak Prescott, Peter, What are people in the NFL saying
about the likelihood he has sustained success this year? Uh,
it's his job. It's funny. It's funny, but you you
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when you when the name Dak Prescott comes up. One
of the reasons they think that he's unlikely to suffer
the proverbial sophomore slump is because he is he is
a total flatline person, and he hasn't been really affected by,
you know, his incredible first season. He's got a little
Russell Wilson in him. He just goes to work and
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does his job and uh, you know, and plays well
and and then he's driven to try to play better.
So I think most people think that he's going to
come in and have a very good year. You know.
Obviously the question becomes for six weeks is Darren McFadden
and Alfred Morris, um, you know, are they going to
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be able to carry the mail as much as Jason
Garrett is hoping they will. I think that's going to
be a key thing. But you know, I also think
that that you know, this is also going to be
able to telling somebody the other day I said if
you drafted Cole Beasley in your fantasy league those six weeks,
I'd play him every one of those because I think
that that what what Jason Garrett, what Scott Linahan really
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want to do is when Ezekiel Elliott goes away, they
want to use more of a controlled passing game, more
of a slot passing game maybe than they normally would.
So I think Jason Witten Cole Beasley could really get
heavy use in weeks two through six for the Cowboys
or two thor seven. Um. The arguably the most competitive
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game and compelling game this weekend is the Packers welcome
in Seahawks. Seahawks seemed to be loaded for bear and
the Packers finally Ted Thompson finally went out and spend
some money you mentioned and uh Scott Linehan and what
he had to do with duct tape, same thing had
to be done for the defensive backfield of the Green
Bay Packers. Did they add the right pieces to help
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Aaron Rodgers? Well, obviously time will tell. But the one
thing about the one thing about this team right now
that I think is really really interesting is I don't
know how you're blocking their front, their front four or
five six. I mean, you know, imagine you get Frank
Clark coming off the bench. He's starting for twenty nine
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teams in the NFL um and and you know, with
the addition of Sheldon Richardson, you know, I look at
Sheldon Richardson is one of these guys, one of these
classic players who's been on a bad team for a while,
and all of a sudden, America is going to get
to know who he is. I think he's got a
chance to be the best three technique tackle in football
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this year. A chance. Now he's going to have to
do it, but he's going to have the support around
him and behind him. It isn't just you know, the
fact you got Michael Bennett on one side, Cliff Avril
on another side, But I mean you've got Bobby Wagner
and kJ right behind you. I mean, this guy is
going to have a tremendous opportunity to make huge plays
in that Seattle defense. I think that because look, Seattle's
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offense is not going to be intergalactic. It just it isn't.
It's not suited to be that. But their defense has
a chance, has a chance to be as good as
they're great defenses of two and three years ago. Look
as a layman, I would agree, having watched them in
the preseason, seeing the additions. I can't wait for to
get started tonight, and of course love going to your
site on a daily and sometimes two or three times
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a day basis is d mm qbing. By the way,
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football season all the best, do you, Doug have a
great weekend, you too, Peter King joining us. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
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weekdays at three pm me Stern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome
in the One of the newest members of the Fox
Sports College football team, Mark Helfords, joins us on The
Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh. Look, I want to get to
the game, but I want to ask you personally, that
was your first official game to call for Fox Sports,
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having come off been on the sidelines for years, and
or I haven't been in a box calling plays for years.
What was that experience like watching a game and watching
two teams in Texas get down early on those special
teams blunders newly come back and win the game. What
was the experience like as a former head coach to
call your first game? Well, uh, all over the map
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as you can imagine, how trying to try not to
screw up, trying to trying to get in and get
out when I have something to say. But it was
a lot of fun. You know, Petros is awesome to
work with. Justin Cutcher and the rest of the crew
were great. Uh, It's weird at the end of the
game to not have a final score, you know, so
to speak, to kind of beat judged by. But it
was very odd, very odd when you see, uh, you know,
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the Texas fans in the second quarter are are brewing
and restless, and you know the end is near and
you're realizing that's the exact same field that Charlie Strong
was carried off of the year before at that exact time,
and so, uh, just a lot of that, a lot
of you know, as as as you said, as a
coach or sitting there thinking about Okay, special teams this
and all the huge plays, the impact plays that happened
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that game are every coach's nightmare in that first game. Yeah,
you know, it's it's it's fascinating to me what you're
going through because like I've kind of lived the opposite,
right like where I always want to coach and you
almost like want to be in that losing locker room
at halftime to make some adjustments, to do some things.
And and I've also wondered, you know, guys who comes
from when when urban Meyer left Florida and he went
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to the booth, I thought, well, if rb Meyer thinks
he's not going to come back and coach, he's wrong
because it's different to be in the energy of a
stadium as opposed to being in a studio where there
isn't You kind of have to generate that energy. We've
got Petros. Petros is the energizer bunny. So but still
like the people around the you know, the fans, the
football that you go at meeting with, the coaches, watching tape,
(29:11):
smelling the grass or whatever, um that mind, does it
make you want to get back on the sideline more?
Or do you do? You do you like the idea
of exiting and owing where there's no ramifications of it.
I can certainly see it from all those angles that
you know. Afterward, it was a weird. That was a word.
That's the first time in twenty one years where you
don't there's no no let or no loser. How do
(29:33):
we do? How do we do? I thought we did great,
but I have no idea, right exactly, yeah, exactly, um,
but yes, absolutely. At halftime you're sitting there, kay, hey,
they need to do and you have all the answers, right,
It's it's easy, but coming out, you know, ryding me.
I remember the first time I was I was on
the field early in my career and I was in
the boost for a long, vast majority of it. I
remember coming down at halftime for the first time and
(29:55):
guys are like bleeding and sweating. You're like, wait, oh, yeah,
this is a real thing. But the the biggest moment
that that kind of hit me, Okay, I missed this
and just being on you know, the guys, the team,
the players, when you're you know, meeting obviously that situation
to meet with the Texas guys and kind of being
around their practice and and just whatever. Seeing guys jack
around or get dialed in or or you know, all
(30:17):
their last minute preparations being that in that setting is
is it's unique. Mark Helfers joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show. Look, I don't it's hard. Changing culture is hard,
and Charlie was trying to change culture there and I
don't know if he I know he didn't have the
time and I'm not sure he had the support to
ever do it. Even if it, it wouldn't have gotten
done anyway. I just I don't ever thought. I think
(30:39):
people were completely bought in on what he was trying
to do, such a he was so different than what
he followed. It was really really hard. So like, look,
you give Herman a bit of a pass in terms
of changing culture, where I would say Tom Herman, I
was disappointed. He's seen as a master play caller, right,
and they got down that red zone and I didn't
(31:00):
love the dinking and duncan and not taking shots in
the end zone some of the things that they were doing.
Am I wrong to to criticize Tom Herman his first
game in Texas, not for the win and loss, not
for the culture stuff here. But that's it's fair. I mean,
any anytime something does work, you're gonna it's gonna get
get you know, dissected. But I think the biggest red flag,
(31:22):
and maybe maybe that's what they were thinking, is hey,
we we can't do this, so we need to in
your words, Dincon dunk. But there weren't a lot of
or any just I'm Texas, you're not. Let's run the
football productive plays and and Maryland got after them up
front with a three man rush man. But is that
is that a product of of his offense or is
(31:43):
that a product of his personnel? That's what I don't know,
you know, when you're not on the inside, I don't
know what what what it looked like the other day
was Maryland played you know, harder, better, longer upfront than
Texas did on both sides of the ball. And so
that that, again, is that a byproduct of where they were?
It doesn't matter. It's his team right now, and I
know he's taking some some flak for that, and you
(32:05):
have to solve those problems. Uh, you know on the
third down and the fourth down play when they kind
of ran the little arrow routes with with sometimes guys
blocking and sometimes not in the end zone. Uh, you
know those those I'm sure they're sitting in their film
room right now going out, crap, we should have pounded
it one more time, or ran one of the wildcat
plays one more time, or you know, given it to
(32:27):
the two and fifty pounds table back one more time.
But that's that's a part of it. What do you
make of Urban saying Urban Meyers saying he's driven insane
by Tom Herman's comments, Right, that's his former Like do
you know how that for people to understand, like Tom
Herman was his offense porting they won the national champion
should he goes to Houston and and like, look, there's
(32:47):
a certain lore that follows in because he did such
a good job with different quarterbacks during that national championship year.
But but that's his guy, that's his football family. To
say that really interesting, Right, those are too extremely extremely
proud meant, let's put it that way, too extremely competitive guys.
And and uh, you know Urban took some took some
(33:08):
heat when he left Florida and the circumstances of that,
and so it's all that, all that stuff buddled into
a bunch of first game stuff. Mark Albert joining us
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um, You've you've been a
part of the Mariotta experience right where you had a
guy who everyone knew was not just a stud at
(33:30):
the college level when he won the High Stan Trophy,
but also was going to be a really good quarterback
in the Nation football game. He seems to be living
up to that. Late Sunday night we saw we saw
another good one in Josh Rosen. You've also seen san
Dar Take me through Rosen and your sense of how
much of that is real and how much of that
was just a moment and some luck because there were
(33:54):
they had the they had the what delay a game,
which is on him. They had the false start where
everybody wasn't set up, which is on him. They had
some throws that could have been picked off, which in
some level is on him. Like what's your sense of
Rosen and bouncing out against Mariota, who you coached. Well,
there's no comparison in my world of of you know,
(34:16):
and that it has way more to do with off
the field and than than on the field, with with
Marcus versus Josh Rosen. I think the best thing about
Josh Rosen from you know, last season's right now is
we haven't heard very much about him from him, you know,
so hopefully that means back to work and just reddicate
himself to getting it done on the field and taking
care of everything and he needs to do off the field,
(34:38):
because there was a lot more you know, style and
fluff than than substance than winds uh in his case,
because there's a ton of talent on that team. Um,
Sam Donald is fantastic. Uh. You know, we had him
in camp when I was at Oregon, and in the
second I met the guy, you know, it was one
of those things that like, this guy's going to sc
(34:58):
why why we've always our time? And and I mean
that in a good way. I don't. I don't mean
that his grand his grandpa went. Grandpa went there. You know,
he said, you start to you start to talk to him,
but he was he was like playing with a video game.
You know. You could tell him, hey, I want you
to roll out this way, and you know it's like
maybe like Tiger Woods and his heyday have aimed for
the right corner of that you know, chair or whatever
(35:19):
it is, and and he would just kill it. I
can't would see you know, his progression this fall, you know,
everybody's making a big deal out of their first game
and not scoring, winning ninety and nothing. I think, you know,
I think they did what they had to do in
that game. But those guys, you know, these guys obviously
need to do it for a little bit longer before
there are anywhere near that that category. Mark Helfers joins
(35:42):
us to be on the call of Minnesota at Oregan States,
and you realize you have to say nice things about
organ State. Now I know it's a it's an all
got lead Saturday. Yeah, this is all got leave Saturday.
My brothers and assistant coaches. Coach Helford says that at
Oregon State in the men's basketball side, um p J
Flex head coach in Minnesota, he's got like a reality
show right on on espn Uh, he's got He had
he brought the row of the boat thing with him
(36:04):
from Western Michigan. And I had a buddy who who's
in who's in the industry, who texts me He's like,
p J. Fleck real thing or is it all of facade?
And I was like, well, they're always the real thing
until they're not right. That's just like right, Okay. So
as a young guy and you know, like, you know,
you have to you get known as a young guy
kind of coming up. What's your sense of fleck And
(36:25):
how real the image that he's created actually is. I think, Um,
I think he certainly believes it. You know, he's certainly
he's in what he's saying. And it seems since here
around the program, you know, haven't talked to a bunch
of their guy we assistance players. Uh, it's not just
(36:46):
you know, it's not just something on a wall or
something you put on a jersey or whatever. Uh. And
it has been effective to this point. You know, whether
that works in the Big ten or not long term? Uh,
nobody knows that, but they they you know, he took
over a team that was you know, won nine games.
These guys, aren't you know, it's about rebuilding mode. Uh.
They obviously had some issues last year a few guys,
(37:08):
which sounds like that was much needed. Um. But yeah,
I think he's he's a guy that that again, he
believes a hundred percent what he's doing and it has
been extremely successful. At this point that was gonna be
I listen, you know how you're in big boy football,
right and you're in Minnesota's not like you're lining up
at Michigan playing against Minnesota. You're lining up Minnesota. And
at some point in his career he's gonna have Penn State, Michigan,
(37:30):
Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa all on the Wisconsin all on
the schedule the same year. Then we'll see how much
would it's really like to be p J. Fleck. But uh,
I can't wait to call. I'll just tell you, as
a guy who's done what you're doing, three man booth
is hard. I thought you guys are really really good together.
I learned a lot and I didn't feel like I
was being lectured, which is ultimately your job. You guys
(37:52):
told me why it was. It was a really good team.
I look forward to to seeing the call Saturday night.
All right, I appreciate you having us, And yeah, those
are eight graper guys to work with. That'd be good.
That's Mark Helfrich, newest Fox Sports one analyst, Justin Cutcher.
Petro's Papa Dakas will join him Minnesota. P J Fleck
taken on Oregon State. Fox Sports Radio has the best
(38:13):
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I heart radio app Let's welcome in. The One of
the newest members of the Fox Sports College football team,
Mark Helfredt, joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh. Look,
I want to get to the game, but I want
to ask you personally, that was your first official game
(38:34):
to call for Fox Sports, having come off been on
the sidelines for years and or I haven't been in
a box calling plays for years. What was that experience
like watching a game and watching two teams in Texas
get down early on those special teams blunders newly come
back and win the game. What was the experience like
as a former head coach to call your first game? Well, uh,
(38:56):
all over the map as you can imagine, how trying
to try not to screw up, trying to trying to
get in and get out when I have something to say.
But it was a lot of fun. You know, Petros
is awesome to work with. Justin Kutcher and the rest
of the crew were great. Uh. It's weird at the
end of the game to not have a final score,
you know, so to speak, to kind of be judged by.
But it was very odd, very odd when you see uh,
(39:20):
you know, the Texas fans in the second quarter are
are booing and restless, and you know the end is near,
and you're realizing that that's the exact same field that
Charlie Strong was carried off of the year before that
exact time, and so, uh, just a lot of that,
a lot of it, you know, as as as you said,
as a coacher sitting there thinking about okay, special teams,
this and all the huge plays, the impact plays that
(39:42):
happened to that game, or every coach's nightmare in that
first game. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's fascinating to
me what you're going through because like I've kind of
lived the opposite, right like where I always want to
coach and you almost like want to be in that
losing locker room at halftime to make some adjustments, to
do some things. And and I'm all still wondered. You know, guys,
who comes from When when urban Meyer left Florida and
(40:04):
he went to the booth, I thought, well, if urban
Meyer thinks he's not going to come back and coach,
he's wrong, because it's different to be in the energy
of a stadium as opposed to being in a studio
where there isn't You kind of have to generate that energy.
Is the energizer bunny. But still like the people around
the you know, the fans, the football, you're going meeting with,
(40:24):
the coaches, watching tape, smelling the grass or whatever. Um
that mind. Does it make you want to get back
on the sideline more? Or do you do? You do?
You like the idea of exciting and owing where there's
no ramifications of it. I can certainly see it from
all those angles that you know afterward, it was a
weird that was a word. That's the first time in
(40:44):
twenty one years where you don't there's no no let
or no loser. How do we do? How do we do?
I thought we did great? But I have no idea
right exactly? Yeah, exactly? Um but yes absolutely at halftime
you're sitting there kaying, hey, they need to do and
you have all the answers, right, It's it's easy. But
coming out, you know, reminding me I remember the first
time I was I was on the field early in
(41:05):
my career and I was in the booth for along
the vast majority of it. I remember coming down at
halftime for the first time and guys are like bleeding
and sweating. You're like, wait, oh yeah, this is a
real thing. But the biggest moment that that kind of
hit me, Okay, I missed. This has just been a
you know the guys, the team, the players, when you're
you know, meeting obviously that situation to meet with the
Texas guys and kind of being around their practice and
(41:27):
and just whatever, seeing guys jack around or get dialed
in or or you know, all their last minute preparation.
Just being in that in that setting is is It's unique.
Mark Helferst joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show. Look,
I don't it's hard. Changing culture is hard, and Charlie
was trying to change culture there and I don't know
if he I know, he didn't have the time and
(41:48):
I'm not sure he had the support to ever do it.
Even if it, it wouldn't have gotten done anyway. I
just I don't ever thought. I think people were completely
bought in on what he was trying to do, such
a he was so different than what he followed. It
was really really hard. So like, look, you give Herman
a bit of a pass in terms of changing culture,
where I would say, Tom Herman, I was disappointed. He's
(42:11):
seen as a master play caller, right, and they got
down that red zone, and I didn't love the dinkin
and duncan and not taking shots in the end zone
some of the things that they were doing. Am I
wrong to to criticize Tom Herman's first game in Texas,
not for the win and loss, not for the culture stuff,
but more for that's it's fair. I mean, any anytime
something does work, you're gonna it's gonna get get you know, dissected.
(42:35):
But I think the biggest red flag, and maybe maybe
that's what they were thinking, is hey, we we can't
do this, so we need to in your words, Dincon dunk.
But there weren't a lot of or any just I'm Texas,
you're not. Let's run the football productive plays and and
Maryland got after them up front with a three man rush.
But but is that is that a product of of
(42:57):
his offense or is that a product of his personnel?
That's what I don't know, you know, when you're not
on the inside, I don't know what what what it
looked like the other day. It was Maryland played you know, harder,
better and longer upfront than Texas did. On both sides
of the ball and so that that again is at
a byproduct of where they were. It doesn't matter. It's
his team right now, and I know he's taking some
(43:19):
some flak for that, and you have to solve those problems. Uh,
you know on the third down and the fourth down
play when they kind of ran the little arrow routes
with with sometimes guys blocking and sometimes not in the
end zone. Uh you know those those I'm sure they're
sitting in their film room right now going out, crap,
we should have pounded it one more time, or ran
one of the wildcat plays one more time, or you know,
(43:41):
given it to the two and fifty pounds table back
one more time. But that's that's a part of it.
What do you make of Urban saying Urban Meyers saying
he's driven insane by Tom Herman's commons, Right, that's his
former Like do you know how that for people who
don't understand, like Tom Herman was his offense port to
they won the nash A Chapon should he goes to
Houston and and like, look, there's a certain lore that
(44:04):
follows him because he did such a good job with
different quarterbacks during that national championship year. But but that's
his guy, that's his football family. To say that really interesting, right,
those are two extremely extremely proud men, let's put it
that way. Too extremely competitive guys, and and uh, you know,
Urban took some took some heat when he left Florida
(44:25):
and the circumstances of that, and so it's all that,
all that stuff buddled into a bunch of first game stuff.
Mark Albert joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um,
you've you've been a part of the Mariotta experience, right
where you had a guy who everyone knew was not
just a stud at the college level when he won
(44:47):
the Highsman Trophy, but also was going to be a
really good quarterback in the Nation football game. He seems
to be living up to that. Late Sunday night, we
saw we saw another good one in Josh Rosen. You've
also seen Sandar take me through Ozen and your sense
of how much of that is real and how much
of that was just a moment and some luck because
(45:09):
there were they had the they had the what delay
a game, which is on him. They had the false
start when everybody wasn't set up, which is on him.
They had some throws that could have been picked off,
which in some level is on him, Like what's your
sense of Rosen and bouncing out against Mariota who you coached. Well,
there's no comparison to my world of of you know,
(45:31):
and that it has way more to do with off
the field and than than on the field with with
Marcus versus Josh Rosen. I think the best thing about
Josh Rosen from you know, last season to right now
is we haven't heard very much about him from him,
you know, So hopefully that means back to work and
just reddicated himself to getting it done on the field
and taking care of everything he needs to do off
(45:53):
the field, because there was a lot more you know,
style and fluff than than substance than winds uh in
his case, because there's a ton of talent on that team. Um,
Sam Donald is fantastic. Uh. You know, we had him
in camp when I was in Oregon, and in the
second I met the guy, you know, it was one
of those things that like this guy's going to sc
(46:14):
Why why we've wasted our time? And and I mean
that in a good way. I don't I don't mean
that his grand his grandpa went grandpa went there. He
started to you start to talk to him, but he
was he was like playing with the video game. You know,
you could tell him, hey, I want you to roll
out this way, and you know it's like maybe like
Tiger Woods and his hey day have aimed for the
right corner of that you know, chair or whatever it is,
(46:35):
and he would just kill it. I can't wait to see,
you know, his progression this fall. You know, everybody's making
a big deal out of their first game and not
scoring nine, winning ninety and nothing. I think, you know,
I think they did what they had to do in
that game. But those guys, you know, those guys obviously
need to do it for a little bit longer before
there anywhere near that that category. Mark hell Ferst joins
(46:58):
us to be on the call of Minnesota Organs, so
you realize you have to say nice things about organ State. Now,
I know it's all it's an all got leave Saturday. Yeah,
all got leave Saturday, my brothers and assistant coaches. Coach
Helford says that at Oregon State in the men's basketball side,
um p J flex head coach in Minnesota, he's got
like a reality show right on on espn Uh, He's
got he had he brought the row the boat thing
(47:19):
with him from Western Michigan. And I had a buddy
who who's in who's in the industry, who texts me,
He's like, p J. Fleck real thing or is it
all a facade? And I was like, well, they're always
the real thing until they're not right. That's just like right. Okay,
So as a young guy, and you know, like you know,
you have to you get known as a young guy
kind of coming up. What's your sense of Fleck and
(47:41):
how real the image that he's created actually is? I think, um,
I think he certainly believes it. You know, he's certainly
he's in what he's saying. And it seems since here
around the program, you know, having talked to a bunch
of their guy we assistance players, Uh, it's not just
(48:01):
you know, it's not just something on a wall or
something you put on a jersey or whatever. Uh. And
it has been effective to this point. You know, whether
that works in the Big ten or not long term? Uh,
nobody knows that, but they they you know, he took
over a team that was, you know, won nine games.
These guys, aren't you know, it's about rebuilding mode. Uh,
they obviously had some issues last year a few guys,
(48:24):
which sounds like that was much needed. Um, But yeah,
I think he's he's a guy that that again, he
believes a hundred percent what he's doing and it has
been extremely successful. At this point, that was gonna be.
I listen, you know how you're in big boy football
right in your Minnesota's not like you're lining up at
Michigan playing against Minnesota. You're lining up Minnesota. And at
some point in his career he's gonna have Penn State, Michigan,
(48:45):
Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa all on the Wisconsin all on
the schedule the same year. Then we'll see how much
what it's really like to be p J. Fleck. But uh,
I can't wait to call. I'll just tell you, as
a guy who's done what you're doing, three man boot
is hard. I thought you guys are really really good together.
I learned a lot and I didn't feel like I
was being lectured, which is ultimately your job. You guys
(49:07):
told me why it was. It was a really good team.
I look forward to seeing the call Saturday night. All right,
I appreciate you having us and yeah, those are great
greaper guys to work with. That'd be good bets. Mark
Helfrich newest Fox Sports one analyst Justin Cutcher. Petro's Papadakis
will join him. Minnesota p J Fleck taken out Oregon
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NFL season is here. Pat's Chiefs Tonight's tonight, Foxboro Gillette Stadium.
We'll cover it, we'll talk about it, We'll get to it.
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game tonight, better game tomorrow. An incredible weekend of games
in front of us. Lamson, Auburn, Georgia, not Trere Dame,
USC Stanford, Ohio State taken on Oklahoma. We got great,
(00:43):
great games this weekend. Plus the NFL uh first weekend
is just littered with games. I'll give you some of
my picks in terms of the upcoming season, some of
the underrated teams and overrated teams in the upcoming NFL season.
We got a lot to get to. But what was
the story of the night is still the story of
the day. It's Michael Bennett who had a press conference
(01:06):
for the Seattle Seahawks and claimed that he was racially profiled,
and that story became Twitter. Fidler. In fact, the Commissioner
of the National Football League. Roger Goodell actually released a
statement to which he supported Michael Bennett. The Seattle Seahawks
supported Michael Bennett. You know who doesn't support Michael Bennett's claims.
(01:27):
That would be the Las Vegas Police Department. Yesterday, Kevin
um mcmayhill, who is the under sheriff of the Las
Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, said quote, I can I can
tell you as I stand here today, there is no
evidence of that that being racially profiling. I see no
(01:47):
evidence that race played any role in this incident. Remember,
in his statement, Michael Bennett not only said that he
was racially profiled, he said it took an eternity due
to the brutal way in which officers treated him. Mcmahill
said that the defensive end was in custody approximately ten
minutes then released. In the ten minutes in which he
was detained, he was. The reason he was detained was
(02:10):
explained to him by a supervisor who was on duty.
And look, here's the thing, and this relates to Ezekiel Elliott,
and it also relates to the protest which I think
you're gonna see in the Nation Football day. Gonna want
to get to it a couple of things I tell
people all the time. There are no more secrets, only
(02:31):
effects yet to be revealed. One of the facts that
has been revealed that has a lot of people bothered
is the fact that the officer who was arresting him
did not turn on his body camera. Now in the
in the middle of nowhere in rural Mississippi, or in Oklahoma,
or a even California, in Eureka, California, where there aren't
(02:52):
cameras anywhere, that might have been a problem. In Las Vegas, Nevada,
when an incident occurs starting in a casino and then
goes out until As Vegas Bolevard, Flamingo Boulevard, and and
the strip, this is not an issue. It's just not.
There are cameras everywhere in Vegas. Everybody knows that. But
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one of the problems with cameras is depending on what
you see or where you might see what, you're not
getting the full context. And the Las Vegas Police Department
and the Las Vegas Police Union, they are going to
the mattresses against Michael Bennett, going to the mattresses. Uh, look,
(03:45):
it's really kind of remarkable, remarkable what's happened. The Las
Vegas Police Union obviously not a fan of the protests
for the for the national anthem. Uh there there quote
that everyone's gonna be reacting to. While while the NFL
make condoned Bennett's disrespect for our national for our American flag,
and everything it simbolizes, we hope uh the league will
(04:07):
not ignore Bennett's false accusations against our police officers. Look,
here's what they're saying happened, and Michael Bennett is not
actually disputing that. He is disputing the fact that they
arrested him or didn't even rest him. They they handcuffed
him only because he's black. And they're like, look, we
(04:27):
got footage. We thought there was an active shooter inside
a casino. This is a big, big thing. Our police
officers go into a casino, we see a guy crouched
behind a game of machine and then when when they
believe when they when he saw them, he went he
ran for it, which, by the way, I'm just gonna
(04:49):
tell you, I don't know how I would react in
a casino if there was a shooting. Do you know
how you'd react. I don't. I don't know how i'd
react if there was an active shooter. I don't know
what I would hide behind. I don't know where I
would hide. I don't know if I would run, if
I would run. I think if I would run, I
would zig zag, wouldn't You would zig zag and then
(05:09):
right back kind of weave back and forth, thinking if
the guy shoots, that will miss. I don't know. So
I actually think that even though, even though police officers
came in and we're trying to identify a potential shooter
at the scene of a potential crime, and they walk
in completely blind, I don't think Michael Bennett's reaction is unreasonable.
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You hide behind something big and metal, hoping it deflects
any bullets to come your way, and then if you
see an opening the exit, you make a run for it.
That's reasonable. I also would tell you it's kind of
reasonable for the cops to think, Hey, this guy sees us,
he's running from us, maybe he has something to do
with what took place. Also reasonable. And while you may
(05:58):
be bothered by the way in which they handcuff a
potential suspect by putting their knee their knee in his back.
He's six ft pounds. It's not like they can sit
there and go um sir, could you please put your
hands behind you so that we can just lightly put
these handcuffs on. That's not the reality of how police
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officers are trained or how they should in fact do
their job. They try and contain a situation, trying to
understand who the actual perpetrators are if a crime actually existed,
and then once you figure out this guy is not
a criminal, you'll let him go, which is what they
said they did. But the NFL, the Seahawks, and most
importantly Michael Bennett, there's egg on his face once they
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release more tapes because they have them. Like I'm not
I do. I think that the union is always going
to come out and defend their officers, probably just like
the NFL p a UH defends their players even when
they do something wrong. That's where the NFL, that's what
unions do. When the police department says, hey, we don't
see anything you having to do with racial profiling. We
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don't see it. We reviewed the tapes. The department knows
that's potential for a lawsuit if they are in fact
lying or making it up or making misstatements. They understand
the political climate and they're willing to go out there
and put their under sheriff out there and go like, hey,
that didn't didn't happen that way. We have video footage.
It wasn't an eternity that he was detained for. It
was ten minutes. We have the time stamp on it.
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It might have felt like an eternity. It might have
felt like he thought that he was brutalized by police,
but this is actually what happens when you're handcuffed. Sorry,
not sorry, we're just doing our jobs. By the way,
police officer is in fact the worst job you can
ever have. It just is. I know there are benefits,
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I know their post career benefits, but no, you know,
like God bless police officers, the good ones especially um,
it's the worst job. The second worst job, I believe
is the person who works in the baggage claim office. Right,
no one ever goes into the baggage claim office at
an airport. What to just say, hey man, thanks man,
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doing a good job. Like, no one says that you
only go in there if you have lost your luggage.
It's the only time you go in there. And when
you lost you you lose your luggage. You're pissed, aren't you,
And you're gonna blame the guy who or lady who's
behind the counter, and they had nothing to do with it.
They've never seen, they've never touched, they've never even approached
your bag. They don't know your name, they know your flight,
they know anything about. Their whole job is to be
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a buffer between them and your anger towards the airline.
And by the way, the airline didn't have anything to
do with it. It was the baggage handlers or maybe
something got misrouted. Right. That's the second worst job. Worst
job is police officer. Here's the thing, this is like
the Ezekie Elliott thing. I like everybody who has any
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soul in America is anti domestic violence, but I don't
actually I think there's enough here to think that Ezekie
Elliott may not have done what he was accused of doing. Right, So,
I can be anti domestic violence but say I don't
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think you should suspend a Zeke Elliott. I can be
anti police brutality and say I don't think this is
police brutality or racial profiling. Do you do you understand
that you can still be pro something but think this
doesn't actually fit what we're fighting against. And as we
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get ready for an NFL season where players are going
to throw their support blindly behind Michael Bennett Las Vegas
Police Department in addition to the unions like we've got
a hundred twenty cameras. It didn't go down that way.
Either Michael Bennett wants attention or he doesn't know how
this goes down. He's not being reasonable. He waited two
weeks to make these accusations and make it look bad.
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And oh yeah, by the way, he happens to bring
this negative attention to police where it doesn't actually exist.
This is a bad look for everybody who threw support
behind Bennett blindly. But that's what we do with social media,
so we do Twitter mob, social media mob. They're out
the Las Vegas Police party a bad, bad, bad bad
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But or they walked into a situation where they didn't
know friend or foe. As I said yesterday, it's not
like they're wearing jerseys. Oh, good guys wearing the red jerseys. Tonight,
bad guys wearing the white. They handcuffed a suspect who
was running from them, and when they got the information
they needed, they released him. Be sure to catch live
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editions of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Here was the Commissioner of
the NFL on First Things First on Fox Sports. Ones answer,
I'm not a football expert. I'm a huge fan. I
have a role as commissioner also, But for me, I
watched the games and enjoy it, and I let the
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football people make those decisions. And the reality is there's
a lot thirty two different decisions, right, and multiple decisions
within an organization, So there's always a dispute and the
idea of who can play and who can't play, who's
best for our system and not best for our system,
our decisions that should be made by those thirty two teams, right.
(11:25):
I oh, one, I don't want any part of it too.
I'm not really a football expert. Which again, like I
understand that US on radio and US on TV who
are not football experts can form an opinion, but like
that's really not the job of the commissioner, And so
he didn't answer while answering, but at least he answered
(11:48):
with a non answer. Do you understand the difference? Like
instead of saying I don't want to talk about it.
Instead of saying that's not my role, he essentially said
I don't want to talk about that. That's not my role.
But he did so in very elecut fashion, right, like
there's a at least he didn't go to like political
talking points. Let me tell you about my plans for healthcare,
right like you at least he didn't go there. But
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I kind of thought it was the perfect answer, like, hey,
I'm a football fan. I'm a football guy, but whether
or not he belongs on a team, like, that's not
really my that's not really what I do. There's thirty
two teams, and they make each individual decision. The Seahawks
had him in there, they decided to pass. Why they
decided to pass. He wanted to be a starter. What
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that translates into is starting money is Russell Wilson didn't
want him there is They just didn't feel like, look,
we played the sound. Did we play the sound for
you or was it only you know I played the
sound for you last week? Right? And Derek Carr what
he said about match Shop, Do you guys remember that,
Did we play that ramos or did I just play
that in my head that I played it on cowherd man.
Maybe that's what it was. There's a cut of what
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Derek Carr said a week ago at a press conference.
And remember Derek Carr his rookie year, he wasn't drafted,
He wouldn't draft in the first round, one draft from
the first round. And car said that when he was
named the starter, he thought he was going to be traded.
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Like He's like, I thought I played pretty well. I thought,
you know, Matt schob is the starter here. I thought
I was going to be moved. That's what he honestly thought.
They called him in and said you're the new starting quarterback.
You're the new starting quarterback, and he said he walked
into the quarterback room and Matt shob blew him away
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with this comment where he's like, look, I'm mad, I'm upset,
but you know what, from this point forward, my job
is to get you ready to be in the best
quarterback in the NFL. Because Kobe Bryant has always been
in alpha always and so to say like, hey, Kobe,
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we want you to facilitate that ain't what Kobe does.
There was no plan B for Kobe Bryant. It's the
same thing for Colin Kaepernick. Is when he was the
backup in San Francisco, he was doing everything in his
power to get ready to being a starter. I remember
he was the second round draft pick and they wanted
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him to eventually to take Alex Smith's body. Eventually did
take Alex Smith's spot. That was a different role than
the one they would have him in if he was
in Seattle. Seattle didn't work, Baltimore didn't work. We now
know why. Ray Lewis told us why on inside the NFL,
Miami wouldn't work. One reason Gays of course at a
relationship with Cutler, and I'm sure part of part of
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the issue was the city didn't exactly want to throw
their arms around a dude who were a Fidel castor shirt.
And that's where ROGERI does not wrong. Thirty two teams
have thirty two different decisions, right, Minnesota Vikings. Is he
better than Sam Bradford? I think the answers no. Could
he be a backup there? Yeah? Potentially. Sam Bradford always
gets hurt. But they've got Teddy Bridgewater who's still not ready.
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But they can't they can't kick away their investment in
Teddy Bridgewater getting back and make Sam Bradford uneasy considering
he's coming off a year which he surprised people with
the highest completion percentage in the history of the National
Football League. Are they're gonna put him in Philadelphia? Why
he's never gonna play ahead of Carson Wentz? And what
you want in Philadelphia is a veteran quarterback who, like
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Matt Shop when Derek Carr was the starter, would do
everything in his power to get him ready to be
in better So it might not be the answer that
you wanted to hear from Roger Goodell, but I think
it was the perfect answer. Fox Sports Radio has the
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the camps. He knows so much about the game that
we just want to learn. He's kind of to join
us now on the Doug Gottlam Show on Fox Sports Radio. Peter,
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thanks so much for being a part of the show.
There is a presumption from so many that it's the
Patriots and everybody else in the a f C. Do
you see it that way? Um, well, Doug, good to
be with you two. I think that there's a chance
that that could be it, and it's certainly the odds
are that that's going to be it. But the reason
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why I really don't believe it is for a couple
of reasons. I mean, as Bill polly And said early
in the offseason, you know, Patriots are not untouchable. They
they just finished an off season. Uh, you know, there's
a lot is up in the air with them. They
just placed Malcolm Mitchell on i R today. Uh so
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they're receiving group is going to be different, and you know,
they really had to scrap and claw and come back
from a huge deficit to to win the Super Bowl.
So you know, again, I do think they're the best
team in the a f C, but I absolutely don't
think they're untouchable. I would I tend to agree with you.
Malcolm Mitchell also out first eight weeks. Uh so no
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Malcolm Mitchell and no Julian Edelman. Uh. They did make
the trade to get Philip Doorset. We'll see how much
we see him tonight on the other side. Tonight he's
got the kan City Chiefs and everybody's raving about the
armed town of pat Mahomes, and the Chiefs is like, look, relax,
it's Alex Smith is the guy. Do you believe that
that that's the that's exactly how it will fall, or
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do you think there's ultimately a place to which they say, hey,
Alex Smith's got that ceiling, and Mahomes can win us
a game in the postseason with his arm town. You know,
I think it's all dependent on on Alex Smith's play. Um.
I think that the easiest thing is to say is
the Chiefs are saying that Alex Smith is the quarterback
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this year and then we'll see what happens next year.
But I think it's silly to make any pronouncements on
September seven about what's going to happen at quarterback for
a team that spent two number one draft choices to
draft a quarterback of the long term future. Um, you know,
to to to automatically assume he's not going to play
at some point this year. I think Alex Smith has
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that decision in his hands. He needs to play well,
he needs to limit his mistakes. He needs to win
some of the games that in the past they haven't won.
Tonight would be one of them. Um. One of the
things about this game that I find really really interesting
is that I'd say, of all the teams the Patriots
have had defending Super Bowls, UH, defending championships, rather, um,
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this is the one where it seems to me you
want to get him early in the year because you know,
with um, Philip or setting, Brandon Cooks out wide, with
Dwayne Allen spelling, Rob Gronkowski a lot with Rex Burkhead,
with Mike Gillisle, they got five huge elements in their
passing game, UH and running game. Who weren't there a
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year ago? And in the case of Philip Door said
weren't there a week ago? You know? So, Um, there's
a lot of adjustment that the Patriots are going to
have to make on the fly. I just think it's
going to be really interesting to watch how long it
takes Tom Brady. You know, Tom Brady told me early
in this offseason when I asked him, it's amazing your
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chemistry with Malcolm Mitchell and Chris Hogan, and he said
to me, hey, a hundred and eleven practices. So you know,
it's gonna take a while, say them, to get them
all on the same page. It's just not going to
happen in the first game of the year. But then
they have this weird schedule, Peter where out of the
by they go to Denver to Oakland, Miami at home,
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to Buffalo to Miami to Pittsburgh, like five of six
on the road, culminating uh in the in in the
Pittsburgh game, which I'm I'm sure will be flexed, but
I mean, I don't almost feel like that one's gonna
be flat. I almost already call it being flexed. Um.
That's so they should be better in the second half
of the season if they get if they're healthier, but
their schedule is prohibitably more difficult because of the five
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out of six on the road in the second half
of the season. Well it is. But I mean, I've
always thought this about the Patriots, that home and road. Um,
they went through about a ten year period where their
offense was almost exactly the same at home as it
was on the road. I don't think I'm not saying
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that they're impervious and they would rather play on the
road than playing at home. But I think that's becoming
less and less a factor as years go on in
the NFL, just because I think teams are so well
suited to travel now other than to travel in in
bad weather. And for the Patriots that doesn't matter because
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they're used to playing in bad weather. Well that's the
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King joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show. All right,
let's move to the NFC. Start with the Cowboys. Um
Zeke Elliott is going to play Sunday Night against the
Giants instead of getting into the Zeke and and ultimately
what what plays out here? Just look the Giants of
the one team that figured out the Cowboys last year.
Feels like the Giants think they're better than last year
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and the Cowboys super talented but different than last year.
What are your thoughts in the game? Forget about the
Zeke stuff. Well, I think the one thing about the
Cowboys is that Rod Mayor and Elly had to use
scotch tape and bailing wire last year to put together
a good defense, a good enough defense, and he's got
even a bigger job to do. A secondary is extremely young,
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they don't have a legitimate pass rush threat, so he's
gonna have to invent that just like he did last year.
I think the other thing that would be slightly concerning
is that you know, they they all of a sudden
now have to get three running backs right now ready
to play for this season, Ezekiel Elliott, Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris,
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because they're all going to have to play significant roles.
My big problem right now with Dallas is that you know,
to me, in my opinion, when you look at when
you look at the defense that they have against the
Giants coming up, I mean, the Giants have a huge
edge on defense right now coming into this game. So
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I think I think this is gonna this is not
going to only going to have to be in Ezekiel
Ellie a game, but Dak Prescott is going to have
to make four or five very very big plays in
this game for Dallas to win. What about what about
Dak Prescott, Peter, What are people in the NFL saying
about the likelihood he has sustained success this year? Uh,
it's his job. It's funny. It's funny, but you you
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when you when the name Dak Prescott comes up. One
of the reasons they think that he's unlikely to suffer
the proverbial sophomore slump is because he is he is
a total flatline person, and he hasn't been really affected by,
you know, his incredible first season. He's got a little
Russell Wilson in him. He just goes to work and
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does his job and uh, you know, and plays well
and and then he's driven to try to play better.
So I think most people think that he's going to
come in and have a very good year. You know.
Obviously the question becomes for six weeks is Darren McFadden
and Alfred Morris, um, you know, are they going to
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be able to carry the mail as much as Jason
Garrett is hoping they will. I think that's going to
be a key thing. But you know, I also think
that that you know, this is also going to be
able to telling somebody the other day I said if
you drafted Cole Beasley in your fantasy league those six weeks,
I'd play him every one of those because I think
that that what what Jason Garrett, what Scott Linahan really
(24:25):
want to do is when Ezekiel Elliott goes away, they
want to use more of a controlled passing game, more
of a slot passing game maybe than they normally would.
So I think Jason Witten Cole Beasley could really get
heavy use in weeks two through six for the Cowboys
or two thor seven. Um. The arguably the most competitive
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game and compelling game this weekend is the Packers welcome
in Seahawks. Seahawks seemed to be loaded for bear and
the Packers finally Ted Thompson finally went out and spend
some money you mentioned and uh Scott Linehan and what
he had to do with duct tape, same thing had
to be done for the defensive backfield of the Green
Bay Packers. Did they add the right pieces to help
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Aaron Rodgers? Well, obviously time will tell. But the one
thing about the one thing about this team right now
that I think is really really interesting is I don't
know how you're blocking their front, their front four or
five six. I mean, you know, imagine you get Frank
Clark coming off the bench. He's starting for twenty nine
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teams in the NFL um and and you know, with
the addition of Sheldon Richardson, you know, I look at
Sheldon Richardson is one of these guys, one of these
classic players who's been on a bad team for a while,
and all of a sudden, America is going to get
to know who he is. I think he's got a
chance to be the best three technique tackle in football
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this year. A chance. Now he's going to have to
do it, but he's going to have the support around
him and behind him. It isn't just you know, the
fact you got Michael Bennett on one side, Cliff Avril
on another side, But I mean you've got Bobby Wagner
and kJ right behind you. I mean, this guy is
going to have a tremendous opportunity to make huge plays
in that Seattle defense. I think that because look, Seattle's
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offense is not going to be intergalactic. It just it isn't.
It's not suited to be that. But their defense has
a chance, has a chance to be as good as
they're great defenses of two and three years ago. Look
as a layman, I would agree, having watched them in
the preseason, seeing the additions. I can't wait for to
get started tonight, and of course love going to your
site on a daily and sometimes two or three times
(26:37):
a day basis is d mm qbing. By the way,
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football season all the best, do you, Doug have a
great weekend, you too, Peter King joining us. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
(26:58):
weekdays at three pm me Stern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome
in the One of the newest members of the Fox
Sports College football team, Mark Helfords, joins us on The
Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh. Look, I want to get to
the game, but I want to ask you personally, that
was your first official game to call for Fox Sports,
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having come off been on the sidelines for years, and
or I haven't been in a box calling plays for years.
What was that experience like watching a game and watching
two teams in Texas get down early on those special
teams blunders newly come back and win the game. What
was the experience like as a former head coach to
call your first game? Well, uh, all over the map
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as you can imagine, how trying to try not to
screw up, trying to trying to get in and get
out when I have something to say. But it was
a lot of fun. You know, Petros is awesome to
work with. Justin Cutcher and the rest of the crew
were great. Uh, It's weird at the end of the
game to not have a final score, you know, so
to speak, to kind of beat judged by. But it
was very odd, very odd when you see, uh, you know,
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the Texas fans in the second quarter are are brewing
and restless, and you know the end is near and
you're realizing that's the exact same field that Charlie Strong
was carried off of the year before at that exact time,
and so, uh, just a lot of that, a lot
of you know, as as as you said, as a
coach or sitting there thinking about Okay, special teams this
and all the huge plays, the impact plays that happened
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that game are every coach's nightmare in that first game. Yeah,
you know, it's it's it's fascinating to me what you're
going through because like I've kind of lived the opposite,
right like where I always want to coach and you
almost like want to be in that losing locker room
at halftime to make some adjustments, to do some things.
And and I've also wondered, you know, guys who comes
from when when urban Meyer left Florida and he went
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to the booth, I thought, well, if rb Meyer thinks
he's not going to come back and coach, he's wrong
because it's different to be in the energy of a
stadium as opposed to being in a studio where there
isn't You kind of have to generate that energy. We've
got Petros. Petros is the energizer bunny. So but still
like the people around the you know, the fans, the
football that you go at meeting with, the coaches, watching tape,
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smelling the grass or whatever, um that mind, does it
make you want to get back on the sideline more?
Or do you do? You do you like the idea
of exiting and owing where there's no ramifications of it.
I can certainly see it from all those angles that
you know. Afterward, it was a weird. That was a word.
That's the first time in twenty one years where you
don't there's no no let or no loser. How do
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we do? How do we do? I thought we did great,
but I have no idea, right exactly, yeah, exactly, um,
but yes, absolutely. At halftime you're sitting there, kay, hey,
they need to do and you have all the answers, right,
It's it's easy, but coming out, you know, ryding me.
I remember the first time I was I was on
the field early in my career and I was in
the boost for a long, vast majority of it. I
remember coming down at halftime for the first time and
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guys are like bleeding and sweating. You're like, wait, oh, yeah,
this is a real thing. But the the biggest moment
that that kind of hit me, Okay, I missed this
and just being on you know, the guys, the team,
the players, when you're you know, meeting obviously that situation
to meet with the Texas guys and kind of being
around their practice and and just whatever. Seeing guys jack
around or get dialed in or or you know, all
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their last minute preparations being that in that setting is
is it's unique. Mark Helfers joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show. Look, I don't it's hard. Changing culture is hard,
and Charlie was trying to change culture there and I
don't know if he I know he didn't have the
time and I'm not sure he had the support to
ever do it. Even if it, it wouldn't have gotten
done anyway. I just I don't ever thought. I think
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people were completely bought in on what he was trying
to do, such a he was so different than what
he followed. It was really really hard. So like, look,
you give Herman a bit of a pass in terms
of changing culture, where I would say Tom Herman, I
was disappointed. He's seen as a master play caller, right,
and they got down that red zone and I didn't
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love the dinking and duncan and not taking shots in
the end zone some of the things that they were doing.
Am I wrong to to criticize Tom Herman his first
game in Texas, not for the win and loss, not
for the culture stuff here. But that's it's fair. I mean,
any anytime something does work, you're gonna it's gonna get
get you know, dissected. But I think the biggest red flag,
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and maybe maybe that's what they were thinking, is hey,
we we can't do this, so we need to in
your words, Dincon dunk. But there weren't a lot of
or any just I'm Texas, you're not. Let's run the
football productive plays and and Maryland got after them up
front with a three man rush man. But is that
is that a product of of his offense or is
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that a product of his personnel? That's what I don't know,
you know, when you're not on the inside, I don't
know what what what it looked like the other day
was Maryland played you know, harder, better, longer upfront than
Texas did on both sides of the ball. And so
that that, again, is that a byproduct of where they were?
It doesn't matter. It's his team right now, and I
know he's taking some some flak for that, and you
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have to solve those problems. Uh, you know on the
third down and the fourth down play when they kind
of ran the little arrow routes with with sometimes guys
blocking and sometimes not in the end zone. Uh, you
know those those I'm sure they're sitting in their film
room right now going out, crap, we should have pounded
it one more time, or ran one of the wildcat
plays one more time, or you know, given it to
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the two and fifty pounds table back one more time.
But that's that's a part of it. What do you
make of Urban saying Urban Meyers saying he's driven insane
by Tom Herman's comments, Right, that's his former Like do
you know how that for people to understand, like Tom
Herman was his offense porting they won the national champion
should he goes to Houston and and like, look, there's
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a certain lore that follows in because he did such
a good job with different quarterbacks during that national championship year.
But but that's his guy, that's his football family. To
say that really interesting, Right, those are too extremely extremely
proud meant, let's put it that way, too extremely competitive guys.
And and uh, you know Urban took some took some
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heat when he left Florida and the circumstances of that,
and so it's all that, all that stuff buddled into
a bunch of first game stuff. Mark Albert joining us
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um, You've you've been a
part of the Mariotta experience right where you had a
guy who everyone knew was not just a stud at
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the college level when he won the High Stan Trophy,
but also was going to be a really good quarterback
in the Nation football game. He seems to be living
up to that. Late Sunday night we saw we saw
another good one in Josh Rosen. You've also seen san
Dar Take me through Rosen and your sense of how
much of that is real and how much of that
was just a moment and some luck because there were
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they had the they had the what delay a game,
which is on him. They had the false start where
everybody wasn't set up, which is on him. They had
some throws that could have been picked off, which in
some level is on him. Like what's your sense of
Rosen and bouncing out against Mariota, who you coached. Well,
there's no comparison in my world of of you know,
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and that it has way more to do with off
the field and than than on the field, with with
Marcus versus Josh Rosen. I think the best thing about
Josh Rosen from you know, last season's right now is
we haven't heard very much about him from him, you know,
so hopefully that means back to work and just reddicate
himself to getting it done on the field and taking
care of everything and he needs to do off the field,
(34:38):
because there was a lot more you know, style and
fluff than than substance than winds uh in his case,
because there's a ton of talent on that team. Um,
Sam Donald is fantastic. Uh. You know, we had him
in camp when I was at Oregon, and in the
second I met the guy, you know, it was one
of those things that like, this guy's going to sc
(34:58):
why why we've always our time? And and I mean
that in a good way. I don't. I don't mean
that his grand his grandpa went. Grandpa went there. You know,
he said, you start to you start to talk to him,
but he was he was like playing with a video game.
You know. You could tell him, hey, I want you
to roll out this way, and you know it's like
maybe like Tiger Woods and his heyday have aimed for
the right corner of that you know, chair or whatever
(35:19):
it is, and and he would just kill it. I
can't would see you know, his progression this fall, you know,
everybody's making a big deal out of their first game
and not scoring, winning ninety and nothing. I think, you know,
I think they did what they had to do in
that game. But those guys, you know, these guys obviously
need to do it for a little bit longer before
there are anywhere near that that category. Mark Helfers joins
(35:42):
us to be on the call of Minnesota at Oregan States,
and you realize you have to say nice things about
organ State. Now I know it's a it's an all
got lead Saturday. Yeah, this is all got leave Saturday.
My brothers and assistant coaches. Coach Helford says that at
Oregon State in the men's basketball side, um p J
Flex head coach in Minnesota, he's got like a reality
show right on on espn Uh, he's got He had
he brought the row of the boat thing with him
(36:04):
from Western Michigan. And I had a buddy who who's
in who's in the industry, who texts me He's like,
p J. Fleck real thing or is it all of facade?
And I was like, well, they're always the real thing
until they're not right. That's just like right, Okay. So
as a young guy and you know, like, you know,
you have to you get known as a young guy
kind of coming up. What's your sense of fleck And
(36:25):
how real the image that he's created actually is. I think, Um,
I think he certainly believes it. You know, he's certainly
he's in what he's saying. And it seems since here
around the program, you know, haven't talked to a bunch
of their guy we assistance players. Uh, it's not just
(36:46):
you know, it's not just something on a wall or
something you put on a jersey or whatever. Uh. And
it has been effective to this point. You know, whether
that works in the Big ten or not long term? Uh,
nobody knows that, but they they you know, he took
over a team that was you know, won nine games.
These guys, aren't you know, it's about rebuilding mode. Uh.
They obviously had some issues last year a few guys,
(37:08):
which sounds like that was much needed. Um. But yeah,
I think he's he's a guy that that again, he
believes a hundred percent what he's doing and it has
been extremely successful. At this point that was gonna be
I listen, you know how you're in big boy football,
right and you're in Minnesota's not like you're lining up
at Michigan playing against Minnesota. You're lining up Minnesota. And
at some point in his career he's gonna have Penn State, Michigan,
(37:30):
Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa all on the Wisconsin all on
the schedule the same year. Then we'll see how much
would it's really like to be p J. Fleck. But uh,
I can't wait to call. I'll just tell you, as
a guy who's done what you're doing, three man booth
is hard. I thought you guys are really really good together.
I learned a lot and I didn't feel like I
was being lectured, which is ultimately your job. You guys
(37:52):
told me why it was. It was a really good team.
I look forward to to seeing the call Saturday night.
All right, I appreciate you having us, And yeah, those
are eight graper guys to work with. That'd be good.
That's Mark Helfrich, newest Fox Sports one analyst, Justin Cutcher.
Petro's Papa Dakas will join him Minnesota. P J Fleck
taken on Oregon State. Fox Sports Radio has the best
(38:13):
sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our
shows at Fox sports radio dot Com and within the
I heart radio app Let's welcome in. The One of
the newest members of the Fox Sports College football team,
Mark Helfredt, joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh. Look,
I want to get to the game, but I want
to ask you personally, that was your first official game
(38:34):
to call for Fox Sports, having come off been on
the sidelines for years and or I haven't been in
a box calling plays for years. What was that experience
like watching a game and watching two teams in Texas
get down early on those special teams blunders newly come
back and win the game. What was the experience like
as a former head coach to call your first game? Well, uh,
(38:56):
all over the map as you can imagine, how trying
to try not to screw up, trying to trying to
get in and get out when I have something to say.
But it was a lot of fun. You know, Petros
is awesome to work with. Justin Kutcher and the rest
of the crew were great. Uh. It's weird at the
end of the game to not have a final score,
you know, so to speak, to kind of be judged by.
But it was very odd, very odd when you see uh,
(39:20):
you know, the Texas fans in the second quarter are
are booing and restless, and you know the end is near,
and you're realizing that that's the exact same field that
Charlie Strong was carried off of the year before that
exact time, and so, uh, just a lot of that,
a lot of it, you know, as as as you said,
as a coacher sitting there thinking about okay, special teams,
this and all the huge plays, the impact plays that
(39:42):
happened to that game, or every coach's nightmare in that
first game. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's fascinating to
me what you're going through because like I've kind of
lived the opposite, right like where I always want to
coach and you almost like want to be in that
losing locker room at halftime to make some adjustments, to
do some things. And and I'm all still wondered. You know, guys,
who comes from When when urban Meyer left Florida and
(40:04):
he went to the booth, I thought, well, if urban
Meyer thinks he's not going to come back and coach,
he's wrong, because it's different to be in the energy
of a stadium as opposed to being in a studio
where there isn't You kind of have to generate that energy.
Is the energizer bunny. But still like the people around
the you know, the fans, the football, you're going meeting with,
(40:24):
the coaches, watching tape, smelling the grass or whatever. Um
that mind. Does it make you want to get back
on the sideline more? Or do you do? You do?
You like the idea of exciting and owing where there's
no ramifications of it. I can certainly see it from
all those angles that you know afterward, it was a
weird that was a word. That's the first time in
(40:44):
twenty one years where you don't there's no no let
or no loser. How do we do? How do we do?
I thought we did great? But I have no idea
right exactly? Yeah, exactly? Um but yes absolutely at halftime
you're sitting there kaying, hey, they need to do and
you have all the answers, right, It's it's easy. But
coming out, you know, reminding me I remember the first
time I was I was on the field early in
(41:05):
my career and I was in the booth for along
the vast majority of it. I remember coming down at
halftime for the first time and guys are like bleeding
and sweating. You're like, wait, oh yeah, this is a
real thing. But the biggest moment that that kind of
hit me, Okay, I missed. This has just been a
you know the guys, the team, the players, when you're
you know, meeting obviously that situation to meet with the
Texas guys and kind of being around their practice and
(41:27):
and just whatever, seeing guys jack around or get dialed
in or or you know, all their last minute preparation.
Just being in that in that setting is is It's unique.
Mark Helferst joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show. Look,
I don't it's hard. Changing culture is hard, and Charlie
was trying to change culture there and I don't know
if he I know, he didn't have the time and
(41:48):
I'm not sure he had the support to ever do it.
Even if it, it wouldn't have gotten done anyway. I
just I don't ever thought. I think people were completely
bought in on what he was trying to do, such
a he was so different than what he followed. It
was really really hard. So like, look, you give Herman
a bit of a pass in terms of changing culture,
where I would say, Tom Herman, I was disappointed. He's
(42:11):
seen as a master play caller, right, and they got
down that red zone, and I didn't love the dinkin
and duncan and not taking shots in the end zone
some of the things that they were doing. Am I
wrong to to criticize Tom Herman's first game in Texas,
not for the win and loss, not for the culture stuff,
but more for that's it's fair. I mean, any anytime
something does work, you're gonna it's gonna get get you know, dissected.
(42:35):
But I think the biggest red flag, and maybe maybe
that's what they were thinking, is hey, we we can't
do this, so we need to in your words, Dincon dunk.
But there weren't a lot of or any just I'm Texas,
you're not. Let's run the football productive plays and and
Maryland got after them up front with a three man rush.
But but is that is that a product of of
(42:57):
his offense or is that a product of his personnel?
That's what I don't know, you know, when you're not
on the inside, I don't know what what what it
looked like the other day. It was Maryland played you know, harder,
better and longer upfront than Texas did. On both sides
of the ball and so that that again is at
a byproduct of where they were. It doesn't matter. It's
his team right now, and I know he's taking some
(43:19):
some flak for that, and you have to solve those problems. Uh,
you know on the third down and the fourth down
play when they kind of ran the little arrow routes
with with sometimes guys blocking and sometimes not in the
end zone. Uh you know those those I'm sure they're
sitting in their film room right now going out, crap,
we should have pounded it one more time, or ran
one of the wildcat plays one more time, or you know,
(43:41):
given it to the two and fifty pounds table back
one more time. But that's that's a part of it.
What do you make of Urban saying Urban Meyers saying
he's driven insane by Tom Herman's commons, Right, that's his
former Like do you know how that for people who
don't understand, like Tom Herman was his offense port to
they won the nash A Chapon should he goes to
Houston and and like, look, there's a certain lore that
(44:04):
follows him because he did such a good job with
different quarterbacks during that national championship year. But but that's
his guy, that's his football family. To say that really interesting, right,
those are two extremely extremely proud men, let's put it
that way. Too extremely competitive guys, and and uh, you know,
Urban took some took some heat when he left Florida
(44:25):
and the circumstances of that, and so it's all that,
all that stuff buddled into a bunch of first game stuff.
Mark Albert joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um,
you've you've been a part of the Mariotta experience, right
where you had a guy who everyone knew was not
just a stud at the college level when he won
(44:47):
the Highsman Trophy, but also was going to be a
really good quarterback in the Nation football game. He seems
to be living up to that. Late Sunday night, we
saw we saw another good one in Josh Rosen. You've
also seen Sandar take me through Ozen and your sense
of how much of that is real and how much
of that was just a moment and some luck because
(45:09):
there were they had the they had the what delay
a game, which is on him. They had the false
start when everybody wasn't set up, which is on him.
They had some throws that could have been picked off,
which in some level is on him, Like what's your
sense of Rosen and bouncing out against Mariota who you coached. Well,
there's no comparison to my world of of you know,
(45:31):
and that it has way more to do with off
the field and than than on the field with with
Marcus versus Josh Rosen. I think the best thing about
Josh Rosen from you know, last season to right now
is we haven't heard very much about him from him,
you know, So hopefully that means back to work and
just reddicated himself to getting it done on the field
and taking care of everything he needs to do off
(45:53):
the field, because there was a lot more you know,
style and fluff than than substance than winds uh in
his case, because there's a ton of talent on that team. Um,
Sam Donald is fantastic. Uh. You know, we had him
in camp when I was in Oregon, and in the
second I met the guy, you know, it was one
of those things that like this guy's going to sc
(46:14):
Why why we've wasted our time? And and I mean
that in a good way. I don't I don't mean
that his grand his grandpa went grandpa went there. He
started to you start to talk to him, but he
was he was like playing with the video game. You know,
you could tell him, hey, I want you to roll
out this way, and you know it's like maybe like
Tiger Woods and his hey day have aimed for the
right corner of that you know, chair or whatever it is,
(46:35):
and he would just kill it. I can't wait to see,
you know, his progression this fall. You know, everybody's making
a big deal out of their first game and not
scoring nine, winning ninety and nothing. I think, you know,
I think they did what they had to do in
that game. But those guys, you know, those guys obviously
need to do it for a little bit longer before
there anywhere near that that category. Mark hell Ferst joins
(46:58):
us to be on the call of Minnesota Organs, so
you realize you have to say nice things about organ State. Now,
I know it's all it's an all got leave Saturday. Yeah,
all got leave Saturday, my brothers and assistant coaches. Coach
Helford says that at Oregon State in the men's basketball side,
um p J flex head coach in Minnesota, he's got
like a reality show right on on espn Uh, He's
got he had he brought the row the boat thing
(47:19):
with him from Western Michigan. And I had a buddy
who who's in who's in the industry, who texts me,
He's like, p J. Fleck real thing or is it
all a facade? And I was like, well, they're always
the real thing until they're not right. That's just like right. Okay,
So as a young guy, and you know, like you know,
you have to you get known as a young guy
kind of coming up. What's your sense of Fleck and
(47:41):
how real the image that he's created actually is? I think, um,
I think he certainly believes it. You know, he's certainly
he's in what he's saying. And it seems since here
around the program, you know, having talked to a bunch
of their guy we assistance players, Uh, it's not just
(48:01):
you know, it's not just something on a wall or
something you put on a jersey or whatever. Uh. And
it has been effective to this point. You know, whether
that works in the Big ten or not long term? Uh,
nobody knows that, but they they you know, he took
over a team that was, you know, won nine games.
These guys, aren't you know, it's about rebuilding mode. Uh,
they obviously had some issues last year a few guys,
(48:24):
which sounds like that was much needed. Um, But yeah,
I think he's he's a guy that that again, he
believes a hundred percent what he's doing and it has
been extremely successful. At this point, that was gonna be.
I listen, you know how you're in big boy football
right in your Minnesota's not like you're lining up at
Michigan playing against Minnesota. You're lining up Minnesota. And at
some point in his career he's gonna have Penn State, Michigan,
(48:45):
Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa all on the Wisconsin all on
the schedule the same year. Then we'll see how much
what it's really like to be p J. Fleck. But uh,
I can't wait to call. I'll just tell you, as
a guy who's done what you're doing, three man boot
is hard. I thought you guys are really really good together.
I learned a lot and I didn't feel like I
was being lectured, which is ultimately your job. You guys
(49:07):
told me why it was. It was a really good team.
I look forward to seeing the call Saturday night. All right,
I appreciate you having us and yeah, those are great
greaper guys to work with. That'd be good bets. Mark
Helfrich newest Fox Sports one analyst Justin Cutcher. Petro's Papadakis
will join him. Minnesota p J Fleck taken out Oregon
State
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