July 7, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug talks about the US Men's National Soccer team and their loss to Mexico in the Gold Cup Final. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to get the state of the Lakers, Bradley Beal and all of the other headlines around the NBA. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal, or No Deal?".
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I find this to be super interesting that we kind
of go through this sort of every year thing, you know,
every time we have a possible chance of talking about soccer,
we talk about soccer, as if soccer is so important
we all know about soccer, even though it's pretty obvious
that our collective soccer acumens are not great, just not
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regardless of which. There's a bunch to get into. Okay,
here's the first thing. Okay, here's the first thing. We
lost yesterday in the Gold Cup. In the Gold Cup,
I had I don't really know what the Gold Cup
is I think it's just teams from this side of it,
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from the Americas, North and South America, is my guess,
and apparently it's played all the time. I've been told
that this was not like four dudes that are on
the team and a bunch of guys fighting to make
the team, whereas for Mexico this was in fact their team.
That's what I've been told, profess to be. I'm not
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gonna sit here and lie to you, you know, and
lie to you and act like I watch soccer all
the time or I care about soccer on a regular basis.
I continue to tell you that until the moment comes
when the best athletes we have in our high schools
or growing up play and stick with soccer, we're always
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going to be doing this. And I had a great
discussion with some friends as we're watching the game yesterday,
and no, I'm not gonna say match okay, because what
I don't do is again, I don't lie to you,
and I don't change all the basic verbiage to fit.
It's like I'm not gonna call something a foyer and
then only use American terms for everything else. I'm not
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gonna say foyer and sofa and vaz no thanks. I'm
also not gonna say pitch. I'm not gonna call the
uniforms a kit, and I'm not gonna say that it's
a mass. Again, I want all of our vocabulary, all
the vernacular, to match up. Try to not be fake
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to you. So if it bothers you, sorry, But again,
I'm just trying to be consistent. In America, we play
on fields, we play games, we wear uniforms. Okay, we
don't have to adjust to everybody else's pronunciation since we
call it soccer and everybody else calls it football. Wait,
now we're gonna call it. We're gonna call it soccer,
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but we're gonna call it a kid like. Don't do both.
And if you call it football, you sound like a fool,
because we think of football. It's Screen Bay Packers, it's
the Dallas Cowboys, it's the Kansa City Chiefs. Again, wasn't
our best and brightest was most of their team. Their
starters in the team didn't possess the ball, a ton
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got pushed around a lot. Did feel like they got
their calls right and we could go to the off
side thing. But how many of you knew the rules?
For a handball in soccer before yesterday. And I say
that because apparently the rule is not that if the
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ball hits your hands it's a handball. It's if it's
in the natural motion of what you're doing. For example,
you're running down the field, not the pitch. You're righting
out the field, ball comes whizzing by, and then all
of a sudden somebody else kicks it back the other way,
and while running the ball grazes your hand. That's not
a handball. If it's in the natural Now, if you
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reach out to grab the ball, that's a handball. And
I bring it up because what appeared to be for
all of us that don't actually know what we think
we know, which is the basic rules of soccer, that
because the officials felt like he was falling down and
it's natural to put your hand down. Again, for that
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one particular ruling, they called it not a penalty. And again,
it looked like a pedal to me and looked like
a handball. But I didn't even know the rule. And
I think it's hilarious how many of us, myself included,
played soccer. I played soccer for like seven years grown
up as a kid. My daughters have played soccer, My
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son played soccer, and I had zero idea that you
could actually touch the ball with your hand and not
be a handball if it's in the natural motion of
what you're doing, Jay, stud Did you have any idea
about that? Oh, not at all. I wouldn't even pretend to, right, Sam, No, No,
I thought for sure, I'd ask Sam, and Sam go, oh, yes,
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I know this ruling, this comes from. This comes from
back in nineteen seventy three when the Argentines were playing. Again.
I don't I'm in the dark on this one. So
me too, zero idea. So and look, there's lots of
other parts to it, you know. I don't think most
people know what holding really is, like, well, he's grabbing
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his shirt, like they actually allow some form of holding,
Like the rules a little bit different in basketball. People
don't know what a goaltend is. They don't know what
a charge is, they don't know what vertictality is. There's
lots of things they don't know. And the problem is
that soccer seems so easy. It does. It seems so easy,
Like you can't touch the ball your hands, Actually you can't, Like,
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what do you mean you can't well you can if it's
like a normal movement and automatically gets kicked kicked against
you and then it deflects or whatever. So my big
takeaway yesterday is none of us really know anything about soccer,
and nothing can be made more obvious than in that
the handball that wasn't called it probably should have been.
But whatever, it's disputable, it matters, but sort of doesn't matter. Eloa,
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did you know the actual ruling to what is and
what is not a handball before yesterday?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Doug, you have hit the nail on the head. The
best way I can describe it for the non pitch,
non kick, non nil audience out there is it's the
equivalent of an American football commentator throwing their hands up
and saying, you know what, I don't know what it
catches anymore. I don't know what it catches when you
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have these instant replay overturnings. It's happened so often this
year where you will see well versed commentators in the
sport say the same thing, I don't know what a
handball is and is not anymore, Because just like you,
all of us, even people inside the industry, grew up saying, well,
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if it hits your hand of the penalty area.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's a handball and.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
A penalty care and during this year, and I've got
the I've got the law, the actual laws of the
game in front of me, and it talks about this
unnaturally bigger deal. But even despite that, I see obvious
things that are a handball that are not called, that
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have nothing to do with that, but they're still not called.
So it's not just you. It's people who are in
the industry full time who kind of throw their hands
up and are like, yeah, I don't even know what
a handball is anymore. Before it used to be intent
doesn't matter, even if it's not intentional and it touches
your hand or your arm, it's a handball and a
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penalty area and a penalty kick. But apparently not anymore.
So you're not alone in being mystified.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
There you go, There you go again. Like we could
go into the we we still suck, right, We could
do that. We could talk about the World Cup and
how they expanded it really kind of like Major League
Baseball's playoffs to make sure the important teams like us
get and kind of stay involved and stay engaged and
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are always in it. Like all those things sort of matter, right,
Like it's kind of brilliant from FIFA. Obviously we would
have been in this World Cup, but in other World
Cups you need America in. It drives up the value
of the TV dollars, right, and so all of a sudden,
now they can make more and more money on it.
It's kind of brilliant. Plus more teams, more hotel rooms,
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more cities, more involvement, more, more and more and more.
It's all more of everything. And we'll get to the
other part to it is there's like a there's like
an old guard and a new guard thing, right, Like
Kristen Pulisicch decided not to play and he's like, you know,
I'm playing like seventy games overseas. Like I'm good. I'll
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see you guys through the World Cup. The old heads
are like beck when I was a kid, we used
to play for TVUSA every time and not realizing that,
you know, like Alex say a lotless. I don't think
he ever played in Europe when he did it in
play seventy games in Europe, so you know, even Landon
Donovan took a mental break. But regardless of all of that,
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getting into hardcore soccer talk. I'm watching a match. I'm
watching the sport that I played when I was seven
years old. Shout out to the Ballistics. That was my
first ever travel soccer club. I think it was eight
when I joined the Ballistics and I had no idea.
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I'm like yelling at the screen at the hurt ball.
I was like the worst type of fan, which I
just despise not I mean, look like even Jay stu
who openly heckled and recorded himself heckling Jose Altuve yesterday
at the Dodgers game. By the way, ol Tuve hit
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a home run surely thereafter the heckling. Good good job.
You're just the ultimate motivator, Jay Suo, that's what you are.
Mookie Betts. Last year in the playoffs, you did that.
Jose al Tuve hitting a home run yesterday you did
that as well. Anyway, I'm like the worst version of
myself ever. I'm yelling with anger at the screen. How
can you not know that? And then a buddy of
mine text me, He's like, you know, that might not
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have been a handball. It's like, what are you talking about?
Like he go down on his hand on the ball.
It couldn't be more obvious, like yeah, it doesn't actually
have to do with that, like what And it was
one of those I was today years old that I
learned that I had no idea zero, that you could
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actually hit the ball with your hands, not be a goalie,
and it not be a handball. Now, look, most people
will say that should have been a handball anyway, but
I had no idea. And I think it speaks to
the greater point about soccer, which is like we all
think we know something because most of us played it.
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That was our first sport growing up, right, And then
what would you do. There'd just be like a little
cloud of dust running down the field, going back and forth.
And now they start out with like no goalkeepers or whatever,
so it's like we can't keep score. And then afterwards
they need to do the tunnel. The tunnel. The kids
will love the tunnel, and they still get Capri's sons.
How great an avention. Somewhere there's somebody, I'm guessing Jay
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stew They live in Newport Coast, California, right, which is
pretty much the best baller place ever to live on earth.
That in the northern part of San Diego, right, somebody
invented the Caprice son there and it's just laughing without
bringing this up. Caprice Sons still work, still cool, kids
still love them, like I don't know anybody who buys
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Twinkies or ding Dongs or Hostess anymore. I know they
will survive the nuclear holocaust, but Caprice Sons people still
buy it. Matter of fact, there are bars that serve
drinks with Caprice son and vodka. Sometimes they just use
the caprice hun thing. Do you guys know that? Anyway,
we all had the same experience growing up where we
played soccer until we decided to grow up and play
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a real sport. That's just a tinge of sarcasm in there,
But because we played soccer, we assume we know the
rules pretty obvious soccer they call football because you go
touch with your feet unless you're a goalie. Turns out
you can in fact touch the soccer ball with your
hand and if you're playing in the field, but there's
some rules to it. It's got to be kind of
natural movements or here's a ah is it. Mauricio Pachettino,
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the Argentinian coach of Team USA. After the match, I.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
See his massive lesson for us, I don't see is priceless.
I think it's was an amazing tournament to realize in
the way that we wanted to grow. I think that
is a night that is very very painful night, because
when you lose a trophy or you lose a game,
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it's really really painful. But the most important scene is
to have our head up.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, have your head up. Play most of our backups
or really competitive at Mexico Bets. Big thing is your
boy learned not all handballs or handballs that you can
actually touch the ball with your hands and not get
a penalty, although that did appear to be pill.
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Speaker 5 (14:37):
It takes a flucking as an Alvarez, the flag coups
up for offside. Mexico have had multiple goals.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Ruled out for offside at this tournament, and he's having
a look at this right now. Again, we're not looking
for clear and obvious here as we would at MLS.
What is looking for the right decision.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And it is a good goal.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It is a Mexico goal.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
It is Zen Alvare who's given Mexico the lane with
twelve minutes to play.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
That was the call on FS one of the what
became game winning in Gold Cup, winning call a call
goal excuse me by Mexico. That's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
It's Fox Sports Radio, and oh, I am so excited
to have our good friend Rick bucheron. Of course, he
(15:27):
covers all things NBA. You seem on Fox Sports one,
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Bucus synonymous with his coverage of the sport. Okay, get
me the state of the LA Lakers, right DeAndre Aytons signs, Okay,
(15:47):
there was. Brian Windhors Is like, Hey, I never said
this before, but wouldn't be crazy if you know there's
a window there where Lebron could be moved. What's the
state of the Lakers as a what is this July seventh?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Look, it's it's not beyond the realm of possibility. But
the reality is it's more a reflection of the relationship
between Lebron and the Lakers than their ability to actually
do something, which is, he knows they're moving on. They
know they're moving on. He no longer has the same
(16:24):
juice there, and so a lot of this, a lot
of this is just trying to create as much leverage
for Lebron as he can in terms of his influence
remaining influence with the team. But the fact of the
matter is they're building around Luka Doncic and what they
would get back for Lebron. I don't think they have
(16:45):
any issue with moving on from Lebron or moving Lebron
at this point, but what they would get back for
him wouldn't be commensurate with what he's still capable of
doing for them. So as big as the contract is,
this idea that people want like or thinking of Lebron
(17:07):
in the same terms as fans do NBA teams. And
it's been a couple of years now. I've tucked to
a number of you know, over the years when he's
the guest, is that he might look around or he
might go someplace else. And I had any number of
owners say, I just don't know that it's financially worth
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it at this point, because you know, it's a rental.
You know, he's their short terms, and it's not just
him as a player, it's everything else that you have
to give over or deal with as a result of
Lebron being part of your franchise. So I know there's
the popular thing is he's going to go back to Cleveland.
It makes no sense for Cleveland at this stage, for
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where that team is and what they're building. Why do
you reach back. I mean it would be a nostalgic
move if certainly Lebron I think on some levels would invite,
you know, one last year in Cleveland, but for the
arc of that team and where they are, it doesn't
make any sense. And I can't I can't look at
(18:10):
another team where I say, acquiring Lebron James makes sense.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so what do you think? Give me the best guess.
What do you think happens over this and into next year?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I would imagine that, Well, what I'm waiting for is
to hear whether this is going to be Lebron's last run.
And I don't know that he's decided that, but it
it feels like it's simply because he could have opted
out and created his normal scenario of signing a one
(18:48):
on one and extending it and giving us the impression
that he is he's considering playing another year, he didn't
do that, and I think this is this might be
the first time where he's actually exercised his option for
the final year and is playing it out. And maybe
some of that is to check the landscape. I hate
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to say it, but check the landscape. Asta Is there
a world where Bronny and Bryce and Lebron can all
play together? You know, whether that's on his on his
bucket list or not. But then again, you have to
look at what franchise at this stage is looking to
have Lebron and his two sons and would be willing
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to do all that is necessary the sacrifice is made
to make that happen. It would be an interesting box
office draw, but as far as the development and evolution
of a franchise, it would be a hard sell.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yes, it can be fascinating. My problem with them saying
it's his last go round would be he would have
to have the We know he wants a tour, right like,
he wants all the celebrations. Sure, and if he wanted that,
why didn't you know why the messaging recently, although the
messaging never seems to add up to the reality, So
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I'm not.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Really honestly, I feel as if a lot of the
messaging coming from from Rich Paul primarily is just trying
to create the image or the impression. I mean, part
of it is like I'm still playing for championships. Let's
be serious. I mean, what what like that's just you know,
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it's just lip service at this point. There there's there's
not a world in which if that is truly the case,
then you would be doing the Tom Brady thing, and
you would be taking less than you're eligible to take, and.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you wouldn't have and you wouldn't have had them
focus so much attention on Brownie, right like, like you
wouldn't all of that, all.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Of that he's not.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
He's as is.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Could he be part of a championship team? Absolutely, he could, yes,
But but is he willing to play the role necessary
to be part of the championship team? And that's that's
the heart of it. And and you know that, I
know that, and fans may not recognize that, but I
assure you that NBA franchises do.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, Golden State Warriors, yes, their status.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Oh man, that's an interesting, interesting dynamic there. I mean,
they're exploring to see what the market is for kaminga
and you know, the the impressions right now or are there?
They're stuck in this place where again sort of like
the Lebron question, you know, can we get better? Can
we trade them for something that's going to make us
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appreciably better? And they have not seen or heard anything
to this point that I know of. Uh that that
rings that bell. There's a lot of talk about Al
Horford uh coming in there. I think that gives you
a great indicator of of what their what their mindset
is is. We're we're going to ride this out, Draymond
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step Jimmy like, we're we're maybe we should have thrown
everything to taking one last run with these guys a
couple of years ago when they tried to kind of
do both develop the young guys and uh and and
serve the remaining stars. But as of right now, it's
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we're just going to push everything. We're gonna push all
our chips to the middle of the table. We're going
to see what's the best team that we can build
right now and we're not going to worry about tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, can they build a championship caliber team right? Like?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I just I don't know. I don't know that they can.
And this is the heart of it. It It starts
with depth. Not that step isn't still a very good
to great player and don't tell me about making all
NBA and all that, and that's who he is. But
he just he can't do as much as he needs
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to with this cast around him. And if you look
at guards point guards, this is the next everybody's like
in the Adels, his dad said, you know he could
play into his forties, yeah he could, but as far
as being an All Star, as far as being a
difference maker, like if you look at Jason Kidd, John Stockton,
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Chris Paul, like all of them, even as good as
they were about taking care of their bodies and as
smart as they were and all of that. He's right
at the age where they could still play and they
can still be confident, but they're no longer at a
star level. And that is that's the roll of the
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dice here, and that's the reality of where we are.
Is that is Death just isn't the megastar that he
once was. And so you look at this team and
neither's Draymond at the top of his game. So you
look at it and it's really, you know, who's who's
going to make up for the fact that you don't
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have you know, nine ten, eleven deep that you're that
you're you're relying on a second round pick in Quinton
Post to be a factor and you're getting the most
or got the most out of a buddy heel. It's
just it's diminishing returns. It's just the reality. And and
I think that when people see the personal accolades or
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they look at the statistics of the numbers, they think
that these guys are the same as they were and
and and they're simply not.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, where
are we with Giannis in regards to him stay.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Or go, everything that I have heard to this point
is that he's still he's still saying that that he's
you know, there's a lot of innuendo about he didn't
like the Damian Lillard move or the Miles Turner move,
and I think once it if that was ever true,
and I don't know that it was, but if it
was ever true, once it was explained to him why
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they did what they did, and that they did Gamian
a favor, uh, and that by doing what they did
with Damien it actually allowed them to sign a Miles
Turner and be more competitive in the short term. This
wasn't this wasn't like pairing it to the stud This
was wheezing out. How do we still stay in the mix?
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So I think with all of that and the guys
that they've re signed, everything that I know to this
point is as sexy as it would be to entertain
where could Yannis go and what what's going to happen next?
Everything that I know is that he still planned to
stay in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Mike Brown is the new head coach of the Knicks. Yeah,
how's the what's the league saying about that? Yeah. Eh.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I mean I.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
If this had been their plan from the start, they
jumped out there and recruited or interview Taylor Jenkins and
Mike Brown, and we're trying to decide where they were
going to go there, I think people would would would
feel a little more confident about this. Nobody's looking at
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nobody in the league looks at this move and has
told me, oh, this is just what they needed to
have happened, like this is going to make the difference.
Tom Thibodeau had his strengths and weaknesses, Mike Brown has
his strengths and weaknesses. They're kind of along the same line.
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Mike Brown's offensive game and understanding has evolved somewhat, but
still for the most part, he's a defensive oriented coach.
He's a little soft for touch then uh then then
then tips his approach and his personality. But it's not
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it's not as anybody's looking at Mike Brown and saying
he's going to be a game changer. And my concern
is the last time I saw him in a big
market was in LA and that was short lived. And uh,
and New York is a lot grittier and a lot
tougher than uh than than La. The microscope is a
lot more intense, and I'll be interested to see how
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he handles that, particularly with the bar set where it is.
They have to be good, They have to be good
right from the start, and we'll see whether whether he's
capable of meeting the mark.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Last thing. Rick Pieker's our guest here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, there's there's a
bunch of teams and players we haven't spoken by. What's
the next shoe to drop? Right? Kevin Rant's been moved,
Lilars a free agent. Okay, but there's a bunch of
guys who's that What's what's the next shoe to drop?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I we go back to the Warriors trying to find
a way to move Kaminga. I mean, I don't know
that of the teams that you know, we look at
that are we're intrigued by as far as what are
they going to do next? I know there's a lot
there's still some speculation out there that Memphiss is testing
(28:33):
the waters with John Morant and and what they could
possibly do or get there again. I think it's going
to have to be I don't think they're their impetus
to move him is we have to move him. We
have to find a deal. Like we're turning the page.
I think it's they're exploring to see whether there's something
(28:55):
out there for them to do. And I I at
the end of the day, I don't know that they're
going to get something. They haven't been presented anything to
this point that they're going to be presented something that's
going to convince them. This is the move to make.
We're going to be better as a result, we're gonna
sell more tickets, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Rick Buker check them out at Fox Sports One. Of course,
you can hear by here on Fox Sports Radio. Reada's
work at Fox sports dot com. Buker the best, Thanks
so much for joining us.
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I love what you got.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
As Jim Harbor and Pete Carroll will once again say
to one another this year, what's your deal?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Big deal, little deal?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No deal?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Is it a big deal, little deal or no deal?
That the Indiana Pacers have announced that star Tyrese Haliburton
will miss all of next season.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
No deal. I mean, if you look at all three
of these teams, Jason Tatum and the Celtics and the
Milwaukee Bucks and Damian Lillard and of course now the Pacers,
they're all planning to not have their guys for next year.
So no need to rush too serious an injury. You're
not gonna be by the time you get back. You're
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not gonna be right anyway, so it's not like you're
gonna be able to be your old self. Then they'll
feel compelled to play. Yet, just shut them down for
a year, Come back next year.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Me Meanwhile, Kyrie Irving of the Dallas Mavericks, who of
course tore his ACL back in March, he told a
fan on a live stream to not hold your breath
when asked if he will be back before the playoffs
next season, And now you're gonna hear the comments from
Kyrie himself in a moment for context. This live stream
(31:05):
was actually done three weeks ago. However, it only apparently
came to light yesterday, which unfortunately intimates that mister Irving
might need more publicity for his various live streaming projects.
But here's what Kyrie had to say in his own words.
This is again from his live stream of about three
(31:25):
weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Will you be back by playoffs?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Don't hold your breath on that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
It doesn't mean that I won't be back. It's just
don't I don't want to make any predictions on when
I'm gonna be back. I just want to be back
one hundred and fifty thousand percent better. So I'm taking
my time right now to really get healthy. I'm taking
my time to really get my body right, other parts
of courses of my body right, and really just enjoy
this this recovery process. Man, it's it's it's not pretty. Yes,
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it is a beautiful struggle, but I go through kind
of the mental roller coaster ride of you know, of
every day just want to be back out there.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Though I actually yep, go ahead. I actually think it's
a reasonable response. It is. I mean, now, look, part
of it is when we look at Kyrie, you're like, oh,
ACL injury wasn't at the end of the year. Of
course we'll be back next year. I think that's a
reasonable expectation. One of the things that Kyrie's I sure know,
I'm sure knows, is like he's had a lot of injuries.
So if it happens when you're twenty six and it's
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your first injury, it sucks, it's hard, but your body
comes back quickly. When you've had toe surgery, ankle surgery,
multiple knee surgeries, then you have an ACL. It's a
little bit different. The other part too, it is like,
don't promise that way, you can just when you're right,
you're right, and you don't worry about the actual timing
of it. I actually think it's a very measured response.
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He as he said, doesn't mean I won't be come back,
but I'm just not going to sit there and make
promises when just not the point yet where I can
tell you I'm closed from feeling like it'll happen.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
That's well said, and I think that becomes apparent when
you hear the whole comment and not just well, you know,
don't hold your breath.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
But that's what sucks about aggregators. Because I saw that
headline I think on Yahoo, I was like, huh, that's weird.
Then I listened to the entire comment. I was like, well,
it was a reasonable comment. But that's what sucks about media,
not you ilo, what sucks about like Yahoo and some
of these other They purport themselves as sports and writing
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stories and taking quotes, but that one's taken out of context.
Proper context makes it a very reasonable statement.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
On a completely unrelated story. Kyrie Irving's laugh creepier, non creepy.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I'm gonna go with dismissive, non creepy, dismissive, dismissive. Yeah, just.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Caught my fancy there all right Over the weekend, and
this is a sensitive topic for some of us around here.
Over the weekend, the Houston Astros swept their three game
series against the Los Angeles Dodgers, including one by an
eighteen to one score. Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I think it's a big deal. A bit really really
big deal the dominance over the weekend, especially when look
at what's happened with what happened with the Dodgers of
the weekend. I think that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Okay, very good. This is sort of a college sports
thing and something that you might be versed in, obviously. Uh,
just across the state where you played your college ball
from from Oklahoma State. Uh, Oklahoma State athletic director Joe Castiglione.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Is going to leave Oklahoma Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'm sorry to Yeah, no, I'm sorry Oklahoma as opposed
to where you were, Oklahoma State. He's going to leave
his full time role as athletic director. Here's a guy
who you know, might not be that familiar to most fans,
but Joe Castiglione has been there forever. He's going to
retire from his full time big deal, little deal or
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no deal.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's a big deal. Jokes Joe c is. He may
be the longest tenured athletic director in the country. Obviously,
he's the one that brought Bob Stoops to normally won
national championship. It's big because one, he's so well respected. Two,
Brent Vettable has been hanging on by a thread and
you know, if you don't win, you have a new
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athletic director. That's not a good news. Now he's gonna
stay with the school but not be as active. My
guess is that means that Brent Vettables is in a
winner go home sort of year.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Final item on this edition of Big Deal, Little Deal
or No Deal? Longtime sports writer Christine Brennan writing a
new book about Caitlin Clark's rookie season, and the excerpts
that have been released so far come to a couple
of conclusions. One, she argues that the WNBA really wasn't
ready for the Caitlin Clark phenomenon, and also Clark being
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left off the Olympic team was a great those postulates
big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, little deal? It it? You know who does this?
This is like I love Greene, super talented, but this
is like Mike Greenberg like talking about things as if
she's coming up with things that are new and man,
these are controversials like, yeah, everybody knows that the w
NBA wasn't ready for prime time. Not of course, duh,
We've all said it. And how can you leave her
(36:26):
up the Olympics when you were gonna win anyway, and
you need it, and it just grew the sport if
you had her. This is the Book was written by
Christine Brennan, but also co authored by Captain Obvious.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
This Skame time on The Godlief Show.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Who said, Oh, that was a good line, Jase dou
that was a good line, was.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
It not, Captain AUGI yeah, oh man, that thing was
a was a brick that hit like a concrete.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
H my line, You're pretty good. Coming up on the
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I find this to be super interesting that we kind
of go through this sort of every year thing, you know,
every time we have a possible chance of talking about soccer,
we talk about soccer, as if soccer is so important
we all know about soccer, even though it's pretty obvious
that our collective soccer acumens are not great, just not
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regardless of which. There's a bunch to get into. Okay,
here's the first thing. Okay, here's the first thing. We
lost yesterday in the Gold Cup. In the Gold Cup,
I had I don't really know what the Gold Cup
is I think it's just teams from this side of it,
(01:40):
from the Americas, North and South America, is my guess,
and apparently it's played all the time. I've been told
that this was not like four dudes that are on
the team and a bunch of guys fighting to make
the team, whereas for Mexico this was in fact their team.
That's what I've been told, profess to be. I'm not
(02:01):
gonna sit here and lie to you, you know, and
lie to you and act like I watch soccer all
the time or I care about soccer on a regular basis.
I continue to tell you that until the moment comes
when the best athletes we have in our high schools
or growing up play and stick with soccer, we're always
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going to be doing this. And I had a great
discussion with some friends as we're watching the game yesterday,
and no, I'm not gonna say match okay, because what
I don't do is again, I don't lie to you,
and I don't change all the basic verbiage to fit.
It's like I'm not gonna call something a foyer and
then only use American terms for everything else. I'm not
(02:47):
gonna say foyer and sofa and vaz no thanks. I'm
also not gonna say pitch. I'm not gonna call the
uniforms a kit, and I'm not gonna say that it's
a mass. Again, I want all of our vocabulary, all
the vernacular, to match up. Try to not be fake
(03:07):
to you. So if it bothers you, sorry, But again,
I'm just trying to be consistent. In America, we play
on fields, we play games, we wear uniforms. Okay, we
don't have to adjust to everybody else's pronunciation since we
call it soccer and everybody else calls it football. Wait,
now we're gonna call it. We're gonna call it soccer,
(03:29):
but we're gonna call it a kid like. Don't do both.
And if you call it football, you sound like a fool,
because we think of football. It's Screen Bay Packers, it's
the Dallas Cowboys, it's the Kansa City Chiefs. Again, wasn't
our best and brightest was most of their team. Their
starters in the team didn't possess the ball, a ton
(03:51):
got pushed around a lot. Did feel like they got
their calls right and we could go to the off
side thing. But how many of you knew the rules?
For a handball in soccer before yesterday. And I say
that because apparently the rule is not that if the
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ball hits your hands it's a handball. It's if it's
in the natural motion of what you're doing. For example,
you're running down the field, not the pitch. You're righting
out the field, ball comes whizzing by, and then all
of a sudden somebody else kicks it back the other way,
and while running the ball grazes your hand. That's not
a handball. If it's in the natural Now, if you
(04:34):
reach out to grab the ball, that's a handball. And
I bring it up because what appeared to be for
all of us that don't actually know what we think
we know, which is the basic rules of soccer, that
because the officials felt like he was falling down and
it's natural to put your hand down. Again, for that
(04:57):
one particular ruling, they called it not a penalty. And again,
it looked like a pedal to me and looked like
a handball. But I didn't even know the rule. And
I think it's hilarious how many of us, myself included,
played soccer. I played soccer for like seven years grown
up as a kid. My daughters have played soccer, My
(05:17):
son played soccer, and I had zero idea that you
could actually touch the ball with your hand and not
be a handball if it's in the natural motion of
what you're doing, Jay, stud Did you have any idea
about that? Oh, not at all. I wouldn't even pretend to, right, Sam, No, No,
I thought for sure, I'd ask Sam, and Sam go, oh, yes,
(05:38):
I know this ruling, this comes from. This comes from
back in nineteen seventy three when the Argentines were playing. Again.
I don't I'm in the dark on this one. So
me too, zero idea. So and look, there's lots of
other parts to it, you know. I don't think most
people know what holding really is, like, well, he's grabbing
(05:59):
his shirt, like they actually allow some form of holding,
Like the rules a little bit different in basketball. People
don't know what a goaltend is. They don't know what
a charge is, they don't know what vertictality is. There's
lots of things they don't know. And the problem is
that soccer seems so easy. It does. It seems so easy,
Like you can't touch the ball your hands, Actually you can't, Like,
(06:20):
what do you mean you can't well you can if it's
like a normal movement and automatically gets kicked kicked against
you and then it deflects or whatever. So my big
takeaway yesterday is none of us really know anything about soccer,
and nothing can be made more obvious than in that
the handball that wasn't called it probably should have been.
But whatever, it's disputable, it matters, but sort of doesn't matter. Eloa,
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did you know the actual ruling to what is and
what is not a handball before yesterday?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Doug, you have hit the nail on the head. The
best way I can describe it for the non pitch,
non kick, non nil audience out there is it's the
equivalent of an American football commentator throwing their hands up
and saying, you know what, I don't know what it
catches anymore. I don't know what it catches when you
(07:13):
have these instant replay overturnings. It's happened so often this
year where you will see well versed commentators in the
sport say the same thing, I don't know what a
handball is and is not anymore, Because just like you,
all of us, even people inside the industry, grew up saying, well,
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if it hits your hand of the penalty area.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's a handball and.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
A penalty care and during this year, and I've got
the I've got the law, the actual laws of the
game in front of me, and it talks about this
unnaturally bigger deal. But even despite that, I see obvious
things that are a handball that are not called, that
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have nothing to do with that, but they're still not called.
So it's not just you. It's people who are in
the industry full time who kind of throw their hands
up and are like, yeah, I don't even know what
a handball is anymore. Before it used to be intent
doesn't matter, even if it's not intentional and it touches
your hand or your arm, it's a handball and a
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penalty area and a penalty kick. But apparently not anymore.
So you're not alone in being mystified.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
There you go, There you go again. Like we could
go into the we we still suck, right, We could
do that. We could talk about the World Cup and
how they expanded it really kind of like Major League
Baseball's playoffs to make sure the important teams like us
get and kind of stay involved and stay engaged and
(08:48):
are always in it. Like all those things sort of matter, right,
Like it's kind of brilliant from FIFA. Obviously we would
have been in this World Cup, but in other World
Cups you need America in. It drives up the value
of the TV dollars, right, and so all of a sudden,
now they can make more and more money on it.
It's kind of brilliant. Plus more teams, more hotel rooms,
(09:11):
more cities, more involvement, more, more and more and more.
It's all more of everything. And we'll get to the
other part to it is there's like a there's like
an old guard and a new guard thing, right, Like
Kristen Pulisicch decided not to play and he's like, you know,
I'm playing like seventy games overseas. Like I'm good. I'll
(09:31):
see you guys through the World Cup. The old heads
are like beck when I was a kid, we used
to play for TVUSA every time and not realizing that,
you know, like Alex say a lotless. I don't think
he ever played in Europe when he did it in
play seventy games in Europe, so you know, even Landon
Donovan took a mental break. But regardless of all of that,
(09:53):
getting into hardcore soccer talk. I'm watching a match. I'm
watching the sport that I played when I was seven
years old. Shout out to the Ballistics. That was my
first ever travel soccer club. I think it was eight
when I joined the Ballistics and I had no idea.
(10:15):
I'm like yelling at the screen at the hurt ball.
I was like the worst type of fan, which I
just despise not I mean, look like even Jay stu
who openly heckled and recorded himself heckling Jose Altuve yesterday
at the Dodgers game. By the way, ol Tuve hit
(10:35):
a home run surely thereafter the heckling. Good good job.
You're just the ultimate motivator, Jay Suo, that's what you are.
Mookie Betts. Last year in the playoffs, you did that.
Jose al Tuve hitting a home run yesterday you did
that as well. Anyway, I'm like the worst version of
myself ever. I'm yelling with anger at the screen. How
can you not know that? And then a buddy of
mine text me, He's like, you know, that might not
(10:57):
have been a handball. It's like, what are you talking about?
Like he go down on his hand on the ball.
It couldn't be more obvious, like yeah, it doesn't actually
have to do with that, like what And it was
one of those I was today years old that I
learned that I had no idea zero, that you could
(11:17):
actually hit the ball with your hands, not be a goalie,
and it not be a handball. Now, look, most people
will say that should have been a handball anyway, but
I had no idea. And I think it speaks to
the greater point about soccer, which is like we all
think we know something because most of us played it.
(11:38):
That was our first sport growing up, right, And then
what would you do. There'd just be like a little
cloud of dust running down the field, going back and forth.
And now they start out with like no goalkeepers or whatever,
so it's like we can't keep score. And then afterwards
they need to do the tunnel. The tunnel. The kids
will love the tunnel, and they still get Capri's sons.
How great an avention. Somewhere there's somebody, I'm guessing Jay
(12:01):
stew They live in Newport Coast, California, right, which is
pretty much the best baller place ever to live on earth.
That in the northern part of San Diego, right, somebody
invented the Caprice son there and it's just laughing without
bringing this up. Caprice Sons still work, still cool, kids
still love them, like I don't know anybody who buys
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Twinkies or ding Dongs or Hostess anymore. I know they
will survive the nuclear holocaust, but Caprice Sons people still
buy it. Matter of fact, there are bars that serve
drinks with Caprice son and vodka. Sometimes they just use
the caprice hun thing. Do you guys know that? Anyway,
we all had the same experience growing up where we
played soccer until we decided to grow up and play
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a real sport. That's just a tinge of sarcasm in there,
But because we played soccer, we assume we know the
rules pretty obvious soccer they call football because you go
touch with your feet unless you're a goalie. Turns out
you can in fact touch the soccer ball with your
hand and if you're playing in the field, but there's
some rules to it. It's got to be kind of
natural movements or here's a ah is it. Mauricio Pachettino,
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the Argentinian coach of Team USA. After the match, I.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
See his massive lesson for us, I don't see is priceless.
I think it's was an amazing tournament to realize in
the way that we wanted to grow. I think that
is a night that is very very painful night, because
when you lose a trophy or you lose a game,
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it's really really painful. But the most important scene is
to have our head up.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, have your head up. Play most of our backups
or really competitive at Mexico Bets. Big thing is your
boy learned not all handballs or handballs that you can
actually touch the ball with your hands and not get
a penalty, although that did appear to be pill.
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Speaker 5 (14:37):
It takes a flucking as an Alvarez, the flag coups
up for offside. Mexico have had multiple goals.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Ruled out for offside at this tournament, and he's having
a look at this right now. Again, we're not looking
for clear and obvious here as we would at MLS.
What is looking for the right decision.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And it is a good goal.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It is a Mexico goal.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
It is Zen Alvare who's given Mexico the lane with
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Speaker 1 (15:06):
That was the call on FS one of the what
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me the state of the LA Lakers, right DeAndre Aytons signs, Okay,
(15:47):
there was. Brian Windhors Is like, Hey, I never said
this before, but wouldn't be crazy if you know there's
a window there where Lebron could be moved. What's the
state of the Lakers as a what is this July seventh?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Look, it's it's not beyond the realm of possibility. But
the reality is it's more a reflection of the relationship
between Lebron and the Lakers than their ability to actually
do something, which is, he knows they're moving on. They
know they're moving on. He no longer has the same
(16:24):
juice there, and so a lot of this, a lot
of this is just trying to create as much leverage
for Lebron as he can in terms of his influence
remaining influence with the team. But the fact of the
matter is they're building around Luka Doncic and what they
would get back for Lebron. I don't think they have
(16:45):
any issue with moving on from Lebron or moving Lebron
at this point, but what they would get back for
him wouldn't be commensurate with what he's still capable of
doing for them. So as big as the contract is,
this idea that people want like or thinking of Lebron
(17:07):
in the same terms as fans do NBA teams. And
it's been a couple of years now. I've tucked to
a number of you know, over the years when he's
the guest, is that he might look around or he
might go someplace else. And I had any number of
owners say, I just don't know that it's financially worth
(17:28):
it at this point, because you know, it's a rental.
You know, he's their short terms, and it's not just
him as a player, it's everything else that you have
to give over or deal with as a result of
Lebron being part of your franchise. So I know there's
the popular thing is he's going to go back to Cleveland.
It makes no sense for Cleveland at this stage, for
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where that team is and what they're building. Why do
you reach back. I mean it would be a nostalgic
move if certainly Lebron I think on some levels would invite,
you know, one last year in Cleveland, but for the
arc of that team and where they are, it doesn't
make any sense. And I can't I can't look at
(18:10):
another team where I say, acquiring Lebron James makes sense.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so what do you think? Give me the best guess.
What do you think happens over this and into next year?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I would imagine that, Well, what I'm waiting for is
to hear whether this is going to be Lebron's last run.
And I don't know that he's decided that, but it
it feels like it's simply because he could have opted
out and created his normal scenario of signing a one
(18:48):
on one and extending it and giving us the impression
that he is he's considering playing another year, he didn't
do that, and I think this is this might be
the first time where he's actually exercised his option for
the final year and is playing it out. And maybe
some of that is to check the landscape. I hate
(19:09):
to say it, but check the landscape. Asta Is there
a world where Bronny and Bryce and Lebron can all
play together? You know, whether that's on his on his
bucket list or not. But then again, you have to
look at what franchise at this stage is looking to
have Lebron and his two sons and would be willing
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to do all that is necessary the sacrifice is made
to make that happen. It would be an interesting box
office draw, but as far as the development and evolution
of a franchise, it would be a hard sell.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yes, it can be fascinating. My problem with them saying
it's his last go round would be he would have
to have the We know he wants a tour, right like,
he wants all the celebrations. Sure, and if he wanted that,
why didn't you know why the messaging recently, although the
messaging never seems to add up to the reality, So
(20:09):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Really honestly, I feel as if a lot of the
messaging coming from from Rich Paul primarily is just trying
to create the image or the impression. I mean, part
of it is like I'm still playing for championships. Let's
be serious. I mean, what what like that's just you know,
(20:30):
it's just lip service at this point. There there's there's
not a world in which if that is truly the case,
then you would be doing the Tom Brady thing, and
you would be taking less than you're eligible to take, and.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you wouldn't have and you wouldn't have had them
focus so much attention on Brownie, right like, like you
wouldn't all of that, all.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Of that he's not.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
He's as is.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Could he be part of a championship team? Absolutely, he could, yes,
But but is he willing to play the role necessary
to be part of the championship team? And that's that's
the heart of it. And and you know that, I
know that, and fans may not recognize that, but I
assure you that NBA franchises do.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, Golden State Warriors, yes, their status.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Oh man, that's an interesting, interesting dynamic there. I mean,
they're exploring to see what the market is for kaminga
and you know, the the impressions right now or are there?
They're stuck in this place where again sort of like
the Lebron question, you know, can we get better? Can
we trade them for something that's going to make us
(21:42):
appreciably better? And they have not seen or heard anything
to this point that I know of. Uh that that
rings that bell. There's a lot of talk about Al
Horford uh coming in there. I think that gives you
a great indicator of of what their what their mindset
is is. We're we're going to ride this out, Draymond
(22:03):
step Jimmy like, we're we're maybe we should have thrown
everything to taking one last run with these guys a
couple of years ago when they tried to kind of
do both develop the young guys and uh and and
serve the remaining stars. But as of right now, it's
(22:25):
we're just going to push everything. We're gonna push all
our chips to the middle of the table. We're going
to see what's the best team that we can build
right now and we're not going to worry about tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, can they build a championship caliber team right? Like?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I just I don't know. I don't know that they can.
And this is the heart of it. It It starts
with depth. Not that step isn't still a very good
to great player and don't tell me about making all
NBA and all that, and that's who he is. But
he just he can't do as much as he needs
(23:05):
to with this cast around him. And if you look
at guards point guards, this is the next everybody's like
in the Adels, his dad said, you know he could
play into his forties, yeah he could, but as far
as being an All Star, as far as being a
difference maker, like if you look at Jason Kidd, John Stockton,
(23:28):
Chris Paul, like all of them, even as good as
they were about taking care of their bodies and as
smart as they were and all of that. He's right
at the age where they could still play and they
can still be confident, but they're no longer at a
star level. And that is that's the roll of the
(23:51):
dice here, and that's the reality of where we are.
Is that is Death just isn't the megastar that he
once was. And so you look at this team and
neither's Draymond at the top of his game. So you
look at it and it's really, you know, who's who's
going to make up for the fact that you don't
(24:12):
have you know, nine ten, eleven deep that you're that
you're you're relying on a second round pick in Quinton
Post to be a factor and you're getting the most
or got the most out of a buddy heel. It's
just it's diminishing returns. It's just the reality. And and
I think that when people see the personal accolades or
(24:33):
they look at the statistics of the numbers, they think
that these guys are the same as they were and
and and they're simply not.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, where
are we with Giannis in regards to him stay.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Or go, everything that I have heard to this point
is that he's still he's still saying that that he's
you know, there's a lot of innuendo about he didn't
like the Damian Lillard move or the Miles Turner move,
and I think once it if that was ever true,
and I don't know that it was, but if it
was ever true, once it was explained to him why
(25:09):
they did what they did, and that they did Gamian
a favor, uh, and that by doing what they did
with Damien it actually allowed them to sign a Miles
Turner and be more competitive in the short term. This
wasn't this wasn't like pairing it to the stud This
was wheezing out. How do we still stay in the mix?
(25:29):
So I think with all of that and the guys
that they've re signed, everything that I know to this
point is as sexy as it would be to entertain
where could Yannis go and what what's going to happen next?
Everything that I know is that he still planned to
stay in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Mike Brown is the new head coach of the Knicks. Yeah,
how's the what's the league saying about that? Yeah. Eh.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I mean I.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
If this had been their plan from the start, they
jumped out there and recruited or interview Taylor Jenkins and
Mike Brown, and we're trying to decide where they were
going to go there, I think people would would would
feel a little more confident about this. Nobody's looking at
(26:28):
nobody in the league looks at this move and has
told me, oh, this is just what they needed to
have happened, like this is going to make the difference.
Tom Thibodeau had his strengths and weaknesses, Mike Brown has
his strengths and weaknesses. They're kind of along the same line.
(26:49):
Mike Brown's offensive game and understanding has evolved somewhat, but
still for the most part, he's a defensive oriented coach.
He's a little soft for touch then uh then then
then tips his approach and his personality. But it's not
(27:09):
it's not as anybody's looking at Mike Brown and saying
he's going to be a game changer. And my concern
is the last time I saw him in a big
market was in LA and that was short lived. And uh,
and New York is a lot grittier and a lot
tougher than uh than than La. The microscope is a
lot more intense, and I'll be interested to see how
(27:34):
he handles that, particularly with the bar set where it is.
They have to be good, They have to be good
right from the start, and we'll see whether whether he's
capable of meeting the mark.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Last thing. Rick Pieker's our guest here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, there's there's a
bunch of teams and players we haven't spoken by. What's
the next shoe to drop? Right? Kevin Rant's been moved,
Lilars a free agent. Okay, but there's a bunch of
guys who's that What's what's the next shoe to drop?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I we go back to the Warriors trying to find
a way to move Kaminga. I mean, I don't know
that of the teams that you know, we look at
that are we're intrigued by as far as what are
they going to do next? I know there's a lot
there's still some speculation out there that Memphiss is testing
(28:33):
the waters with John Morant and and what they could
possibly do or get there again. I think it's going
to have to be I don't think they're their impetus
to move him is we have to move him. We
have to find a deal. Like we're turning the page.
I think it's they're exploring to see whether there's something
(28:55):
out there for them to do. And I I at
the end of the day, I don't know that they're
going to get something. They haven't been presented anything to
this point that they're going to be presented something that's
going to convince them. This is the move to make.
We're going to be better as a result, we're gonna
sell more tickets, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Rick Buker check them out at Fox Sports One. Of course,
you can hear by here on Fox Sports Radio. Reada's
work at Fox sports dot com. Buker the best, Thanks
so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
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go to Isaac Loncron and play a game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I love what you got.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
As Jim Harbor and Pete Carroll will once again say
to one another this year, what's your deal?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Big deal, little deal?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No deal?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Is it a big deal, little deal or no deal?
That the Indiana Pacers have announced that star Tyrese Haliburton
will miss all of next season.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
No deal. I mean, if you look at all three
of these teams, Jason Tatum and the Celtics and the
Milwaukee Bucks and Damian Lillard and of course now the Pacers,
they're all planning to not have their guys for next year.
So no need to rush too serious an injury. You're
not gonna be by the time you get back. You're
(30:38):
not gonna be right anyway, so it's not like you're
gonna be able to be your old self. Then they'll
feel compelled to play. Yet, just shut them down for
a year, Come back next year.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Me Meanwhile, Kyrie Irving of the Dallas Mavericks, who of
course tore his ACL back in March, he told a
fan on a live stream to not hold your breath
when asked if he will be back before the playoffs
next season, And now you're gonna hear the comments from
Kyrie himself in a moment for context. This live stream
(31:05):
was actually done three weeks ago. However, it only apparently
came to light yesterday, which unfortunately intimates that mister Irving
might need more publicity for his various live streaming projects.
But here's what Kyrie had to say in his own words.
This is again from his live stream of about three
(31:25):
weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Will you be back by playoffs?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Don't hold your breath on that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
It doesn't mean that I won't be back. It's just
don't I don't want to make any predictions on when
I'm gonna be back. I just want to be back
one hundred and fifty thousand percent better. So I'm taking
my time right now to really get healthy. I'm taking
my time to really get my body right, other parts
of courses of my body right, and really just enjoy
this this recovery process. Man, it's it's it's not pretty. Yes,
(31:52):
it is a beautiful struggle, but I go through kind
of the mental roller coaster ride of you know, of
every day just want to be back out there.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Though I actually yep, go ahead. I actually think it's
a reasonable response. It is. I mean, now, look, part
of it is when we look at Kyrie, you're like, oh,
ACL injury wasn't at the end of the year. Of
course we'll be back next year. I think that's a
reasonable expectation. One of the things that Kyrie's I sure know,
I'm sure knows, is like he's had a lot of injuries.
So if it happens when you're twenty six and it's
(32:23):
your first injury, it sucks, it's hard, but your body
comes back quickly. When you've had toe surgery, ankle surgery,
multiple knee surgeries, then you have an ACL. It's a
little bit different. The other part too, it is like,
don't promise that way, you can just when you're right,
you're right, and you don't worry about the actual timing
of it. I actually think it's a very measured response.
(32:46):
He as he said, doesn't mean I won't be come back,
but I'm just not going to sit there and make
promises when just not the point yet where I can
tell you I'm closed from feeling like it'll happen.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
That's well said, and I think that becomes apparent when
you hear the whole comment and not just well, you know,
don't hold your breath.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
But that's what sucks about aggregators. Because I saw that
headline I think on Yahoo, I was like, huh, that's weird.
Then I listened to the entire comment. I was like, well,
it was a reasonable comment. But that's what sucks about media,
not you ilo, what sucks about like Yahoo and some
of these other They purport themselves as sports and writing
(33:22):
stories and taking quotes, but that one's taken out of context.
Proper context makes it a very reasonable statement.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
On a completely unrelated story. Kyrie Irving's laugh creepier, non creepy.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I'm gonna go with dismissive, non creepy, dismissive, dismissive. Yeah, just.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Caught my fancy there all right Over the weekend, and
this is a sensitive topic for some of us around here.
Over the weekend, the Houston Astros swept their three game
series against the Los Angeles Dodgers, including one by an
eighteen to one score. Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I think it's a big deal. A bit really really
big deal the dominance over the weekend, especially when look
at what's happened with what happened with the Dodgers of
the weekend. I think that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Okay, very good. This is sort of a college sports
thing and something that you might be versed in, obviously. Uh,
just across the state where you played your college ball
from from Oklahoma State. Uh, Oklahoma State athletic director Joe Castiglione.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Is going to leave Oklahoma Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'm sorry to Yeah, no, I'm sorry Oklahoma as opposed
to where you were, Oklahoma State. He's going to leave
his full time role as athletic director. Here's a guy
who you know, might not be that familiar to most fans,
but Joe Castiglione has been there forever. He's going to
retire from his full time big deal, little deal or
(35:01):
no deal.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's a big deal. Jokes Joe c is. He may
be the longest tenured athletic director in the country. Obviously,
he's the one that brought Bob Stoops to normally won
national championship. It's big because one, he's so well respected. Two,
Brent Vettable has been hanging on by a thread and
you know, if you don't win, you have a new
(35:26):
athletic director. That's not a good news. Now he's gonna
stay with the school but not be as active. My
guess is that means that Brent Vettables is in a
winner go home sort of year.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Final item on this edition of Big Deal, Little Deal
or No Deal? Longtime sports writer Christine Brennan writing a
new book about Caitlin Clark's rookie season, and the excerpts
that have been released so far come to a couple
of conclusions. One, she argues that the WNBA really wasn't
ready for the Caitlin Clark phenomenon, and also Clark being
(35:57):
left off the Olympic team was a great those postulates
big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, little deal? It it? You know who does this?
This is like I love Greene, super talented, but this
is like Mike Greenberg like talking about things as if
she's coming up with things that are new and man,
these are controversials like, yeah, everybody knows that the w
NBA wasn't ready for prime time. Not of course, duh,
We've all said it. And how can you leave her
(36:26):
up the Olympics when you were gonna win anyway, and
you need it, and it just grew the sport if
you had her. This is the Book was written by
Christine Brennan, but also co authored by Captain Obvious.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
This Skame time on The Godlief Show.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Who said, Oh, that was a good line, Jase dou
that was a good line, was.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
It not, Captain AUGI yeah, oh man, that thing was
a was a brick that hit like a concrete.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
H my line, You're pretty good. Coming up on the
Doug Gotliep Show, will be Love Most from the weekend?
Will We Hate Most? On the Weekend? Love and Hate
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