July 7, 2025 • 45 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug talks about the US Men's National Soccer team and their loss to Mexico in the Gold Cup Final.
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Welcome inn by So.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I find this to be super interesting that we kind
of go through this sort of every year thing, you know,
every time we have a possible chance of talking about soccer,
we talk about soccer as if soccer is so important
and we all know about soccer, even though it's pretty
obvious that our collective soccer acumens are not great. They're
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just not regardless of which, there's a bunch to get into. Okay,
here's the first thing. Okay, here's the first thing. We
lost yesterday in the Gold Cup. In the Gold Cup,
I had I don't really know what the Gold Cup is.
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I think it's just teams from this side of it,
from the Americas, North and South America is my guests,
and apparently it's played all the time. I've been told
that this was not like four dudes that are on
the team and a bunch of guys fighting to make
the team, whereas for Mexico this was in fact their team.
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That's what I've been told. I don't profess to be
I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you, you know,
and lie to you and act like I watch soccer
all the time or I care about soccer on a
regular basis. I continue to tell you that until the
moment comes when the best athletes we have in our
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high schools or growing up play and stick with soccer,
we're always going to be doing this. And I had
a great discussion with some friends as we're watching the
game yesterday, and no, I'm not gonna say match okay,
because what I don't do is again, I don't lie
to you, and I don't change all the basic verbiage
to fit. It's like I'm not gonna call something a
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foyer and then only use American terms for everything else.
I'm not gonna say foyer and sofa and vaz no thanks.
I'm also not gonna say pitch. I'm not gonna call
the uniforms a kit, and I'm I'm not gonna say
that it's a match. Again, I want all of our vocabulary,
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all the vernacular, to match up. Try to not be
fake to you. So if it bothers you, sorry, but again,
I'm just trying to be consistent. In America, we play
on fields, we play games, we wear uniforms. We don't
have to adjust to everybody else's pronunciation since we call
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it soccer and everybody else calls it football. Wait, now
we're gonna call it. We're gonna call it soccer, but
we're gonna call it a kid like don't do both.
And if you call it football, you sound like a
fool because we take of football. It's Screen Bay Packers,
it's the Dallas Cowboys, it's the Kansa City Chiefs. Again,
wasn't our best and brightest was most of their team.
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Their starters in the team didn't possess the ball, a
ton got pushed around a lot. Did feel like they
got their calls right and we could go to the
off side thing. But how many of you knew the
rules for a handball in soccer before yesterday? And I
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say that because apparently the rule is not that if
the ball hits your hands it's a handball. It's if
it's in the natural motion of what you're doing. For example,
you're running down the field, not the pitch. You're right
out the field, ball comes whizzing by, and then all
of a sudden somebody else kicks it back the other
way and while running the ball grazes your hand.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's not a handball.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If it's in a natural Now, if you reach out
to grab the ball, that's a handball. And I bring
it up because what appeared to be for all of
us that don't actually know what we think we know,
which is the basic rules of soccer, that because the
officials felt like he was falling down and it's natural
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to put your hand down. Again, for that one particular ruling,
they called it not a penalty. And again, it looked
like a pedal to me and looked like a handball.
But I didn't even know the rule. And I think
it's hilarious. How many of us, myself included played soccer.
I played soccer for like seven years growing up as
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a kid. My daughters have played soccer, my son played soccer,
and I had zero idea that you could actually touch
the ball with your hand and not be a handball
if it's in the natural motion of what you're doing, Jay,
stud did you have any idea about that?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh? Not at all. I wouldn't even pretend to.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right, Sam, No, No, I thought for sure, I'd ask Sam,
and Sam go, oh, yes, I know this ruling, this
comes from, This comes from back in nineteen seventy three
when the Argentines were playing.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't. I'm in the dark on this one.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So me too, zero idea. So and look, there's lots
of other parts to it, you know. I don't think
most people know what holding really is, like, well, he's
grabbing his shirt, like they actually allow some form of holding,
like the rules a little bit different in basketball. People
don't know what a goaltend is. They don't know what
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a charge is, they don't know what verticality is. There's
lots of things they don't know. And the problem is
that soccer seems so easy, it does. It seems so easy,
like you can't touch the ball your hands actually you can't,
Like what do you mean you can't, Well, you can
if it's like a normal movement and automatically gets kicked
kicked against you and then it deflects or whatever. So
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my big takeaway yesterday is none of us really know
anything about soccer and nothing can be made more obvious
than in that the handball that wasn't called it probably
should have been. But whatever, it's disputable, it matters, but
sort of doesn't matter. Eloa, did you know the actual
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ruling to what is and what is not a handball
before yesterday?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Doug, you have hit the nail on the head. The
best way I can describe it for the non pit,
non kit, non nil audience out there is it's the
equivalent of an American football commentator throwing their hands up
and saying, you know what, I don't know what it
catches anymore. I don't know what a catches when you
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have these instant replay overturnings. It's happened so often this
year where you will see well versed commentators in the
sport say the same thing, I don't know what a
handball is and is not anymore, because just like you,
all of us, even people inside the industry grew up saying, well,
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if it hits your hand of the penalty area, it's
a handball and a penalty care and during this year,
and I've got the I've got the law, the actual
laws of the game in front of me, and it
talks about this unnaturally bigger deal. But even despite that,
I see obvious things that are a handball that are
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not called, that have nothing to do with that, but
they're still not called. So it's not just you. It's
people who are in the industry full time who kind
of throw their hands up and are like, yeah, I
don't even know what a handball is anymore. Before it
used to be. Intent doesn't matter. Even if it's not
intentional and it touches your hand or your arm, it's
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a handball and a penalty area and a penalty kick.
But apparently not anymore. So you're not alone in being mystified.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
There you go, There you go again. Like we could
go into the we we still suck, right, We could
do that. We could talk about the World Cup and
how they expanded it really kind of like Major League
Baseball's playoffs to make sure the important teams like us
get and kind of stay involved and stay engaged and
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are always in it like all those things sort of
sort of matter, right, It's kind of brilliant from FIFA.
Obviously we would have been in this World Cup, but
in other World Cups you need America in.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It drives up the value.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Of the TV dollars, right, and so all of a
sudden now they can make more and more money on it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's kind of brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Plus more teams, more hotel rooms, more cities, more involvement, more,
more and more and more. It's all more of everything.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And we'll get.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
To the other part to it is there's like a
there's like an old guard and a new guard thing, right,
Like Kristin Pulisicch decided not to play and he's like,
you know, I'm playing like seventy games overseas. Like I'm good,
I'll see you guys through a World Cup. The old
heads are.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Like beck when I was a kid, we used to
play for TVUSA every time.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And not realizing that, you know, like Alex say a lotless,
I don't think he ever played in Europe when he
did it in play seventy games in Europe, so you know,
even Landon Donovan took a mental break. But regardless of
all of that, getting into hardcore soccer talk, I'm watching
a match. I'm watching this that I played when I
was seven years old. Shout out to the Ballistics. That
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was my first ever travel soccer club. I think I
was eight when I joined the Ballistics.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
And.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm like yelling at the screen that don't hurt ball
I was like the worst type of fan, which I
just despise not. I mean, look like even Jay Stu
who openly heckled and recorded himself heckling Jose Altuve yesterday
at the Dodgers game. By the way, ol Tuve hit
(10:36):
a home run surely thereafter the heckling. Good job. You're
just the ultimate motivator, Jays two. That's what you are.
Mookie Betts last year in the playoffs, you did that.
Jose al Tuve hitting a home run yesterday you did
that as well. Anyway, I'm like the worst version of
myself ever. I'm yelling with anger at the screen.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How can you not know that?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And then a buddy of mine text me, He's like,
you know that might not have been a handball. It's like,
what are you talking about? Like he goes down on
his hand on the ball. It couldn't be more obvious,
like yeah, it doesn't actually have to do with that,
like what And it was one of those I was
today years old that I learned that I had no
idea zero, that you could actually hit the ball with
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your hands, not be a goalie, and it not be
a handball. Now, look, most people will say that should
have been a handball anyway, but I had no idea.
And I think it speaks to the greater point about soccer,
which is like we all think we know something because
most of us played it. That was our first sport
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growing up, right, And then what would you do? There'd
just be like a little cloud of dust running down
the field, going back and forth. And now they start
out with like no goalkeepers or whatever, so it's like
we can't keep score.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And then afterwards then you do the tunnel. The tunnel.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
The kids will love the tunnel and they still get
Capri's sons. How great an invention. I'm where there's somebody,
I'm guessing Jay stew They live in Newport Coast, California, right,
which is pretty much the best baller place ever to
live on Earth. A sandy in the northern part of
San Diego, right, somebody invented the Caprice son there, and
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it's just laughing without bringing this up. Caprice Sons still work,
still cool, kids.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Still love them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like I don't know anybody who buys Twinkies or ding
Dongs or Hostess anymore. I know they will survive the
nuclear holocaust, but Caprice Sons people still buy it. Matter
of fact, there are bars that serve drinks with Caprice
son and vodka. Sometimes they just use the Caprice hunt thing.
Do you guys know that? Anyway, we all had the
same experience growing up where we played soccer until we
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decided to grow up and play a real sport. That's
just a tinge of sarcasm in there, But because we
played soccer, we assume we know the rules pretty obvious
soccer they call football because you go touch with your
feet unless you're a goalie. Turns out, you can in
fact touch a soccer ball with your hand if you're
playing in the field, but there's some rules to it.
It's got to be kind of natural movements or here's.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
A is it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Mauricio Pachettino, the Argentinian coach of Team USA, after the match.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
I see his massive lesson for us, I don't see
is priceless. I think it's was an amazing tournament to
realize in the way that we wanted to grow.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think that is a knight.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
That is very very painful night, because when you lose
a trophy or you lose a game, is really really painful.
But the most important scene is is to have our
head up.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, have your head up.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Play most of our backups or really competitive and Mexico
beatis big thing is your boy learned not all handballs
or handballs that you can actually touch the ball with
your hands and not get a penalty, although that did
appear to be a penalty.
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All right, we'll get to that, but first let's get
to our recap of the weekend. Something we call love
and hate?
Speaker 8 (15:02):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
God?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I love you?
Speaker 8 (15:05):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Need these player, hay is.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Love love, love, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate strong words.
We got a strong show. Let's go to our good
friend Jason Stewart. What'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Jace two, I'd love to go west. That's what I
would have loved to do.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, So let's go to Isaac Lowan corn I love
what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
So the Friday counts fourth of July?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Right? Sure?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It was really actually cool memory I mentioned this on
Jonas's show, and he's got me wanted by the cops now.
But like a block away from our house, there's this
long road and people from outside the neighborhood. They set
up shop on this long road and they set off
fireworks all night long on the Fourth of July. So
(15:55):
me and my kids it was like a fireworks parade.
We walked up and down and got to see like
pro level fireworks. My eight year old was shouting fire
in the hall, and I have no idea where you
learn that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So that was kind of a nice memory. So there
we go.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Okay, and buyers free pizza on Friday, by the way.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Too, Okay, let's go to Big Ryan Smith. Ryan, what
you got.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
Well, I do love the Fourth of July. I love
the fireworks, but I hate it when I'm trying to
sleep and the fireworks are going off. I love the
fact that that didn't happen. There weren't a lot of
fireworks going off, so I got peaceful sleep. And that's
what I loved over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Peaceful sleep. Very very nice that you love for the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
By the way, the three of us all live in
you know, southern California. Here, guys, when you woke up
on Saturday morning, like where I lived, it was all
like smoky and hazy, like all over Southern California was
like that for you on Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Absolutely out in the Burbs it was, and the fireworks
were going off the entire weekend. It was a three
day firework exhibit up in the suburbs.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I kind of a diabolical what I liked.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Did you see the video? There's some rapper I've never
heard of him blow off his hand anybody on social media?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, I hadn't heard about this?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Is that this weekend?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, that's what I got to four Extra You guys
ever heard of four Extra boy?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
That's a very ironic name. But okay, no, I so
google him boy.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, four Extra some rapper and he was holding two
M E. D's in his hand, and he's walking around
saying I'm gonna blow and he's dropped an N bomb
up right.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Then there's a video of him blowing off four of
his fingers. Oh man, I have not seen said.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Video, but I'm gonna watch it because that's who I
am and listen. But again, my point is more like,
don't get me wrong, like when fireworks mistakenly go off,
or you know, if a fuse doesn't work, or you know,
if you have all the safety precautions. But I saw
one where somebody gives a Roman candle to like a
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two year old who mistakenly goes and runs into the house.
This one with this dude four extra like blowing off
his hand when he's talking about blowing other people up, Like, hey, dude, sorry,
but you did know you were holding a quarter stick
of dynamite in your hand. That's what happens when you
f around and find out you taste too like am
(18:43):
I supposed to feel too too much sympathy when dudes
threatened to blow other people up and then they blow
their own hand off.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I do not Sorry.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Even Lamar Jackson weighed in with his sympathies, posting, damn
for extra y'all be sad with them fireworks then, and
someone replied to that, don't play with fireworks, Lamar, You're
the best running back we have. And Lamar replied, when
I started hearing about people's hands and faces being blowed off,
(19:10):
I stopped that bra So even Lamar Jackson advocating for
fireworks safety, just like.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You, Yeah, love his on hand again.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It's not because I don't feel sympathy for somebody blowing
out their own hand. It's the I'm walking around with
twom Med he's talking about blowing up other people. And
then I bluffed bone hand, Jaseto, what's you left on
the weekend?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Oh man?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
What not to? Of the Astros came to town, and
I'll tell you what. On Friday night did or Herscheizer
cause a stir so. For those that don't know the history,
the Astros cheated their way to a World Serious championship
in twenty seventeen, and the commissioner didn't hold any players accountable,
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no punishment, And when asked why you didn't vake the
World Series championship from the Astros, the commissioner said some
mishmouth thing about slippery slopes. I don't know what is
worse than being caught cheating during the World Series in
which you want a championship in I don't know where
the slippery slope exists. But anyways, Dodger fans never forget
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what happened, and they never forgot that the Astros never
received any punishment. So on Friday Night, or Herscheiser, much
to his credit, God bless him, Bulldog on Friday Night,
I think it was Joe Davis. He said this on
the broadcast.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
It hard the deep center field pot has on the
round a turn of watch this one wedgs itself in
the bottom of the world and cam Smith flying into second,
anchoring there with another extra base. It for the Astros
double homer, double Philip and third against Casparios.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I have a lot of.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Open hold room, but in some ways they're swinging at
these breaking balls like they know when it's coming.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
So earl, earl with a great line, and that went
viral and Astros Twitter really hated it. I retweeted hashtag
never forget hashtag Houston Asterisks and got a crapload from
the Houston Astros of when are you guys going to
get over this? It's been eight years? How about this?
(21:20):
If you guys were properly punished, we would probably be
over it by now. So I blame Manfred and I
blame Astros for having the lack of character to cheat.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
There you go, there you go. Okay, that's what we love.
Let's get to it. We hated over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Our resident hater is nonther than Jason Stewart goes last
in love because he loves the least first.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I hate because he hates the most. Chase two.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You hate to see the Astros sweep the Dodgers ever,
but you definitely hated to see the Astros sweep the
Dodgers this past weekend at Dodger Stadium. And then I
will had a really good seat to see the final
game of that sweep, one in which the well one
holdover from the twenty seventeen squad, Jose al Tuv I
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went to boo him and heckle him personally, and he
launched a home run in the ninth inning. I think
was a direct response to my heckling. He was asked
after the game about this heckling from yours truly.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Is that what twenty seventh stamps for the number of
pitches you saw coming to the twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Huh? Is that what twenty seventh stamps for? Answer me?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
He never answered me, but he did hit a home
run in the ninth inning the Astro swept. When he
was asked afterwards, he said it rattled him for a
little bit, but he gained his composure for his last
at bat.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That was terrible trash talk, too wordy. Nobody's catching up
all those words.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is it because he's English second language or do you
just think he was too wordy?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Anyways, I just thought he was too wordy that a
short pointed to the point like like again, I know
the fan got in trouble for it because he yelled
at the wrong do But like your.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Mom is better than is twenty seven?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
The number of times you knew a ball was coming
to you back in the previous playoffs, not last year
or the year before or the year before that, but
back several years ago?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Is that the number?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Dedunt?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Should we send Jason to Robin Ficker for some for
a consultation on proper heckling technique?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Is that the old heckler from the Washington.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Capitals Washington Wizards when they were the Bullets.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But yes, sir, yeah, Washington Bullets. That's right. He used
to like read things to Michael Jordan. It was he
was great.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah when the Jordan rules came out?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, what what did I hate from the weekend? Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Well, I'm I hate the fact that people and listen,
I know what's gonna happen tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I live on a lake, so it's really cool on
Fourth July you look around the lake and there's just
everywhere you can go fireworks. But like, we've hit the
point where it's over it was a little bit over
last night. Now it's really over. And I understand you
may not have a dog, you may not have little kids.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I have a dog. I have three.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Actually one is definitely afraid of fireworks, really uncomfortable. So
for Fourth July we put them in the room. We
can surround them with blankets. You know, it's all his
favorite things. Try and get them away from the noise
so he doesn't know what's happening, all that stuff. But
once you get past, like, hey, we're a three day weekend,
it's over. Stop blowing up the damn fireworks. Okay, stop stop,
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it's over. Fourth of July is over.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Move on. I love What do you got?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
But both sides of the coin. By the way, what
are the names of your dogs? I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
We have Odell Beckham Junior Junior, we have Luca dog Chicks,
and we have Vince Lombardi. Well to well, first five, well,
he goes by Odi or Odell, Okay, then Luca goes
by chomps them chomps, and then uh, Vincent Lombardi goes
by Barty Barty Odie chumps.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you're keeping score at home, within two minutes on
this broadcast, Doug has insulted me for being too wordy
and maybe too nuances.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It was constructive, constructive feedback.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
More and then he gives the name of those dogs
that are far too nuanced and wordy.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, no, no, listen, that's their full names. Okay. My name
is Douglas Mitchell Gottlieb. I go by Doug. Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It calls me Doug or dg or Doug Gottlieb. Okay,
so it's not nuanced. He asked the names. I gave
him the names. Then I gave what we actually call them.
That's okay, you were too wordy. No one would argue otherwise,
like Ryan, was that good trash talk from Jason Stewart
at Live in a baseball game?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
No, it was pretty bad, right, I love that was
a small sample size, but I see ways that he
could have been more effective.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, So the point is that I'm your friend and
I'm telling you it was bad.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Do better.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And I have several other baseball friends who are like,
Jason's really heckling. Jose al Tuve, he's such a fan,
the he's such a fan. I was like, yeah, he
actually is. He's a real fan, real fan.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
This is a sore subject. But during your first sideline
this past year, would would would you find me game? Okay,
we were there.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They're terrible.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Were there any that you kind of chuckled to yourself
and said, no, that's that was pretty clever.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yes, there was so so most of them were really
most of you are terrible at it, Like go do
a podcast like that's not really trash talk, it's not
really past talk.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But there was.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There was a group at Cleveland State and what happened
was one of the guys was got a little bit
over the line where he was talking to asking him
where my daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Harper's where's Harper? Where's Harper? Bring harp right?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So I went in a halftime halftime, I walked over
and I said, hey, look man, okay, that's out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
My daughter's out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So mentor again, I'll have you escorted out of the arena,
which is my right as a coach.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So we go back to the second half and.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
They're like, where's Gauge. What Gauge is my nephew. He's
he was a senior high school. Now he's going to
GCU as a manager Grand Canyon and he's like.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Is gauge out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I thought that was funny. I thought that was funny.
That was a quick adjustment by a Cleveland State student.
Most of them were terrible, though. Every got heckled every game, so.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
They're actually taking the time to do deep internet research.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Group that group did. It's not that deep, but that
group did.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Most groups is just like, go back to your podcast
or your radio show.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Sucks to Okay, thanks.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
By the way, that's cool about Gage Grand Canyon is
a great, great environment there, you go, great arena down there.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's gonna work for Bryce. Uh. Bryce true a riot Smith.
You know what I.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Really like going to a podcast that's funny. I'm sorry,
it's not meaning, it's just funny. I was like, it's
it's so random, go to a podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Welcome to a podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I hated the.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Fact that I had to relive the Astros beating the
Dodgers in that World Series, that Game seven when the
Dodgers lost. That was my birthday. I was that crushed
me and I and this weekend when we got swept
by them. I really hated that. So that would that's
what really take me off over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And that is love and hate. Jay Stu, Jay Stu,
you know you know why that segment went so much quicker.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Let's see we have Ryan and I lo one here.
Sam's out.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, that's we know our reason right that last part. YEP,
we love Sam. But if you think that your trash
talk was wordy, I give you Iowa Sam.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
We're making a point.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's been word He doesn't quite know where the stops
on is. You know that is the over aggressive runner
who goes right through the stops on.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
He reminds me of was it plane trains and automobiles
where John Candy's driving the wrong way down the road
and some guy he pulls up alongside somebody and Gay goes.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You're going the wrong way, and he goes, you want
to race? He reminds me of you want to race?
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Here for Mexico albaadle de fake now it's hooked it.
It takes a flucking ats and Alvarez the fly cops
up for offside. Mexico have had multiple goals ruled out
for offside at this tournament and he's having a look
at this right now. Again, we're not looking for clear
and obvious here as we would at MLS.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
What is looking for the right decision.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
And it is a good goal.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
It is a Mexico goal. It is ed Sin Alvarez
who's given Mexico the lane with twelve minutes to play.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That was the call on FS one of the what
became game winning in Gold Cup. Winning call a call
goal excuse me by Mexico. That's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
It's Fox Sports Radio, and oh, I am so excited
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(31:35):
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get me the state of the LA Lakers, right, DeAndre
Aytons signs Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
There was.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Brian windhors Is like, Hey, I never said this before,
but wouldn't be crazy if you know there's a window
there where Lebron could be moved.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
What's the state of the Lakers as of what is
this July.
Speaker 11 (32:09):
Seventh looks it's not beyond the realm of possibility, But
the reality is it's more a reflection of the relationship
between Lebron and the Lakers than their ability to actually
do something, which is, he knows they're moving on. They
know they're moving on. He no longer has the same
(32:32):
juice there and so a lot of this, a lot
of this is just trying to create as much leverage
for Lebron as he can in terms of his influence
remaining influence with the team. But the fact of the
matter is they're building around Luka Doncic and what they
would get back for Lebron. I don't think they have
(32:54):
any issue with moving on from Lebron or moving Lebron
at this point, But what they would get back for
him wouldn't be commensurate with what he's still capable of
doing for them. So as big as a contract is no,
but this idea that people want like or thinking of
(33:15):
Lebron in the same terms as fans do NBA teams.
And it's been a couple of years now. I've talked
to a number of you know, over the years when
he's suggested that he might look around or he might
go someplace else, And I had any number of owners say,
I just don't know that it's financially worth it at
(33:36):
this point, because you know, it's a rental. You know,
he's their short term and it's not just him as
a player, it's everything else that you have to give
over or deal with as a result of Lebron being
part of your franchise. So I know there's the popular
thing is he's going to go back to Cleveland. It
makes no sense for Cleveland at this stage for where
(33:58):
that team is and what they're building. Why do you
reach back. I mean it would be a nostalgic move
if certainly Lebron I think on some levels would invite,
you know, one last year in Cleveland, but for the
arc of that team and where they are, it doesn't
make any sense and I can't. I can't look at
another team where I say acquiring Lebron James makes sense.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, so what do you think? Give me the best guess.
What do you think happens over this and into next year?
Speaker 11 (34:34):
I would imagine that, Well, what I'm waiting for is
to hear whether this is going to be Lebron's last run.
And I don't know that he's decided that, but it
it feels like it's simply because he could have opted
out and created his normal scenario of signing a one
(34:56):
on one and extending it and giving us the impression
that he is he's considering playing another year, he didn't
do that, and I think this is this might be
the first time where he's actually exercised his option for
the final year and is playing it out. And maybe
some of that is to check the landscape. I hate
(35:17):
to say it, but check the landscape is a pasta
Is there a world where Bronnie and Bryce and Lebron
can all play together? You know, whether that's on his
on his bucket list or not. But then again, you
have to look at what franchise at this stage is
looking to have Lebron and his two sons and would
(35:38):
be willing to do all that is necessary the sacrifice
is made to make that happen. It would be an
interesting box office draw, but as far as the development
and evolution of a franchise, it would be a hard sell.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yes, it can be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
My problem with them saying it's his last go round
would be he would have to have the We know
he wants a tour, right like he wants all the celebration. Sure,
and if he wanted that, why didn't you know why
the messaging recently, although the messaging never seems to add
up to the reality, So I'm not really that.
Speaker 11 (36:19):
Would Honestly, I feel as if a lot of the
messaging coming from from Rich Paul primarily is just trying
to create the image or the impression. I mean, part
of it is like I'm still playing for championships, Let's
be serious. I mean, what what like that's just you know,
it's just lip service at this point. There there's there's
(36:42):
not a world in which if that is truly the case,
then you would be doing the Tom Brady thing and
you would be taking less than you're eligible to take.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And and you wouldn't have and you wouldn't have had
them focus so much attention on Brownie, right like, like
you wouldn't.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
All of that, all of that he's not as is.
Could he be part of a championship team? Absolutely he could, yes, yes,
But is he willing to play the role necessary to
be part of a championship team? And that's that's the
heart of it. And you know that, I know that,
(37:20):
and fans may not recognize that, but I assure you
that NBA franchises.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Do okay, Golden State Warriors, Yes, their status.
Speaker 11 (37:31):
Oh man, that's an interesting, interesting dynamic there. I mean,
they're exploring to see what the market is for Kaminga
and you know, the the impressions right now or are
they're they're stuck in this place where again sort of
like the Lebron question, you know, can we get better?
Can we trade him for something that's going to make
us appreciably better? And they have not seen or heard
(37:55):
anything to this point that I know of that that
rings that bell. There's a lot of talk about Al
Horford uh coming in there. I think that gives you
a great indicator of what their what their mindset is,
which is We're we're going to ride this out, Draymond
set Jimmy like, we're we're maybe we should have thrown
(38:17):
everything to taking one last run with these guys a
couple of years ago when they tried to kind of
do both develop the young guys and uh and and
serve the remaining stars. But as of right now, it's
we're just going to push everything. We're going to push
all our chips to the middle of the table. We're
(38:37):
going to see what's the best team that we can
build right now, and we're not going to worry about tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Okay, can they build a championship caliber team right?
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Like?
Speaker 11 (38:50):
I just I don't know. I don't know that they can.
And this is the heart of it. It it it
starts with death. Not that step isn't still a very
good to great player and don't tell me about making
all NBA and all that, and that's who he is.
But he just he can't do as much as he
(39:13):
needs to with this cast around him. And if you
look at Guards point guards, this is the next everybody's
like in the Adels, his dad said, you know he
could play into his forties, Yeah he could. But as
far as being an All Star as far as being
a difference maker, Like if you look at Jayson Kidd,
(39:35):
John Stockton, Chris Paul, like all of them, even as
good as they were about taking care of their bodies
and as smart as they were and all of that,
he's right at the age where they can still play
and they can still be confident, but they're no longer
(39:56):
at a star level. And that is that's the role
of the dice here, and that's the reality of where
we are is that is Death just isn't the megastar
that he once was. And so you look at this
team and neither's Draymond at the top of his game.
So you look at it and it's really you know,
(40:18):
who's who's going to make up for the fact that
you don't have you know, nine, ten, eleven deep, that
you're you're relying on a second round pick in Quinton
Post to be a factor and you're getting the most
or got the most out of a buddy heel. It's
just it's diminishing returns. It's just the reality. And I
think that when people see the personal accolades or they
(40:41):
look at the statistics of the numbers, they think that
these guys are the same as they were, and they're
simply not stuck.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, where are
we with Giannis in regards to stay or go?
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Everything that I have heard to this point is that
he's still he's still saying that that he's you know,
there's a lot of innuendo about he didn't like the
Damian Lillard move or the Miles Turner move, and I
think once it if that was ever true, and I
don't know that it was, but if it was ever true,
once it was explained to him why they did what
(41:18):
they did, and that they did Damien a favor, uh,
and that by doing what they did with Damien it
actually allowed them to sign a Miles Turner and be
more competitive in the short term. This wasn't this wasn't
like pairing it to the stud This was wheezing out.
How do we still stay in the mix? So I
(41:38):
think with all of that and the guys that they've
re signed, everything that I know to this point is
as sexy as it would be to entertain, where could
Yannis go and what's going to happen next? Everything that
I know is that he's still planning to stay in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Mike is the new head coach of the Knicks. Yeah,
how does what's the league saying about that?
Speaker 11 (42:06):
Yeah? I mean, I uh, if this had been their
plan from the start, they jumped out there and recruited
or interview Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown, and we're trying
(42:26):
to decide where they were going to go there, I
think people would would would feel a little more confident
about this. Nobody's looking at Nobody in the league looks
at at at this move and has told me, Oh,
this is just what they needed to have happened, Like
this is going to make the difference. Tom Thibodeau had
(42:51):
his strengths and weaknesses. Mike Brown has his strengths and weaknesses.
They're kind of along the same line. Mike Brown's offense
the game UH and understanding has evolved somewhat, but still
for the most part, he's a defensive oriented coach. He's
a little soft touch than uh than tips his approach
(43:13):
and his personality, but it's not it's not as anybody's
looking at Mike Brown and saying he's going to be
a game changer. And my concern is the last time
I saw him in a big market was in LA
and that was short lived and UH and New York
is a lot grittier and a lot tougher than UH
(43:34):
than than LA. The microscope is a lot more intense,
and I'll be interested to see how he handles that,
particularly with the bar set where it is. They have
to be good, They have to be good right from
the start, and we'll see whether whether he's capable of
meeting the mark.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Last thing.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Rick Pieker's our guest year on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Uh, there's there's a bunch
of teams and players we haven't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Spoken about what's the next shoe to drop? Right?
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Kevin Rant's been moved, Lillard's a free agent. Okay, but
there's a bunch of guys who's that What's what's the
next shoe to drop?
Speaker 11 (44:20):
I we go back to the Warriors trying to find
a way to move Kaminga. I mean, I don't know
that of the teams that you know, we look at
that are we're intrigued by as far as what are
they going to do next? I know there's a lot
there's still some speculation out there that Memphiss is testing
(44:42):
the Waters with John rant and and what they could
possibly do or get there again. I think it's going
to have to be I don't think they're Their impetus
to move him is we have to move him, we
have to find a deal. Like we're turning the page.
I think it's they're exploring to see whether there's something
(45:03):
out there for them to do. And I at the
end of the day, I don't know that they're going
to get something. They haven't been presented anything to this
point that they're going to be presented something that's going
to convince them this is the move to make. We're
going to be better as a result, we're going to
sell more tickets, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Rick Buker check them out at Fox Sports One. Of course,
you can hear him right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Reada's work at foxsports dot com. Buki the best, Thanks
so much for joining us.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome inn by So.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I find this to be super interesting that we kind
of go through this sort of every year thing, you know,
every time we have a possible chance of talking about soccer,
we talk about soccer as if soccer is so important
and we all know about soccer, even though it's pretty
obvious that our collective soccer acumens are not great. They're
(01:16):
just not regardless of which, there's a bunch to get into. Okay,
here's the first thing. Okay, here's the first thing. We
lost yesterday in the Gold Cup. In the Gold Cup,
I had I don't really know what the Gold Cup is.
(01:36):
I think it's just teams from this side of it,
from the Americas, North and South America is my guests,
and apparently it's played all the time. I've been told
that this was not like four dudes that are on
the team and a bunch of guys fighting to make
the team, whereas for Mexico this was in fact their team.
(02:00):
That's what I've been told. I don't profess to be
I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you, you know,
and lie to you and act like I watch soccer
all the time or I care about soccer on a
regular basis. I continue to tell you that until the
moment comes when the best athletes we have in our
(02:20):
high schools or growing up play and stick with soccer,
we're always going to be doing this. And I had
a great discussion with some friends as we're watching the
game yesterday, and no, I'm not gonna say match okay,
because what I don't do is again, I don't lie
to you, and I don't change all the basic verbiage
to fit. It's like I'm not gonna call something a
(02:42):
foyer and then only use American terms for everything else.
I'm not gonna say foyer and sofa and vaz no thanks.
I'm also not gonna say pitch. I'm not gonna call
the uniforms a kit, and I'm I'm not gonna say
that it's a match. Again, I want all of our vocabulary,
(03:05):
all the vernacular, to match up. Try to not be
fake to you. So if it bothers you, sorry, but again,
I'm just trying to be consistent. In America, we play
on fields, we play games, we wear uniforms. We don't
have to adjust to everybody else's pronunciation since we call
(03:26):
it soccer and everybody else calls it football. Wait, now
we're gonna call it. We're gonna call it soccer, but
we're gonna call it a kid like don't do both.
And if you call it football, you sound like a
fool because we take of football. It's Screen Bay Packers,
it's the Dallas Cowboys, it's the Kansa City Chiefs. Again,
wasn't our best and brightest was most of their team.
(03:47):
Their starters in the team didn't possess the ball, a
ton got pushed around a lot. Did feel like they
got their calls right and we could go to the
off side thing. But how many of you knew the
rules for a handball in soccer before yesterday? And I
(04:10):
say that because apparently the rule is not that if
the ball hits your hands it's a handball. It's if
it's in the natural motion of what you're doing. For example,
you're running down the field, not the pitch. You're right
out the field, ball comes whizzing by, and then all
of a sudden somebody else kicks it back the other
way and while running the ball grazes your hand.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's not a handball.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If it's in a natural Now, if you reach out
to grab the ball, that's a handball. And I bring
it up because what appeared to be for all of
us that don't actually know what we think we know,
which is the basic rules of soccer, that because the
officials felt like he was falling down and it's natural
(04:55):
to put your hand down. Again, for that one particular ruling,
they called it not a penalty. And again, it looked
like a pedal to me and looked like a handball.
But I didn't even know the rule. And I think
it's hilarious. How many of us, myself included played soccer.
I played soccer for like seven years growing up as
(05:15):
a kid. My daughters have played soccer, my son played soccer,
and I had zero idea that you could actually touch
the ball with your hand and not be a handball
if it's in the natural motion of what you're doing, Jay,
stud did you have any idea about that?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh? Not at all. I wouldn't even pretend to.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right, Sam, No, No, I thought for sure, I'd ask Sam,
and Sam go, oh, yes, I know this ruling, this
comes from, This comes from back in nineteen seventy three
when the Argentines were playing.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't. I'm in the dark on this one.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So me too, zero idea. So and look, there's lots
of other parts to it, you know. I don't think
most people know what holding really is, like, well, he's
grabbing his shirt, like they actually allow some form of holding,
like the rules a little bit different in basketball. People
don't know what a goaltend is. They don't know what
(06:08):
a charge is, they don't know what verticality is. There's
lots of things they don't know. And the problem is
that soccer seems so easy, it does. It seems so easy,
like you can't touch the ball your hands actually you can't,
Like what do you mean you can't, Well, you can
if it's like a normal movement and automatically gets kicked
kicked against you and then it deflects or whatever. So
(06:30):
my big takeaway yesterday is none of us really know
anything about soccer and nothing can be made more obvious
than in that the handball that wasn't called it probably
should have been. But whatever, it's disputable, it matters, but
sort of doesn't matter. Eloa, did you know the actual
(06:51):
ruling to what is and what is not a handball
before yesterday?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Doug, you have hit the nail on the head. The
best way I can describe it for the non pit,
non kit, non nil audience out there is it's the
equivalent of an American football commentator throwing their hands up
and saying, you know what, I don't know what it
catches anymore. I don't know what a catches when you
(07:15):
have these instant replay overturnings. It's happened so often this
year where you will see well versed commentators in the
sport say the same thing, I don't know what a
handball is and is not anymore, because just like you,
all of us, even people inside the industry grew up saying, well,
(07:37):
if it hits your hand of the penalty area, it's
a handball and a penalty care and during this year,
and I've got the I've got the law, the actual
laws of the game in front of me, and it
talks about this unnaturally bigger deal. But even despite that,
I see obvious things that are a handball that are
(07:59):
not called, that have nothing to do with that, but
they're still not called. So it's not just you. It's
people who are in the industry full time who kind
of throw their hands up and are like, yeah, I
don't even know what a handball is anymore. Before it
used to be. Intent doesn't matter. Even if it's not
intentional and it touches your hand or your arm, it's
(08:20):
a handball and a penalty area and a penalty kick.
But apparently not anymore. So you're not alone in being mystified.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
There you go, There you go again. Like we could
go into the we we still suck, right, We could
do that. We could talk about the World Cup and
how they expanded it really kind of like Major League
Baseball's playoffs to make sure the important teams like us
get and kind of stay involved and stay engaged and
(08:49):
are always in it like all those things sort of
sort of matter, right, It's kind of brilliant from FIFA.
Obviously we would have been in this World Cup, but
in other World Cups you need America in.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It drives up the value.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Of the TV dollars, right, and so all of a
sudden now they can make more and more money on it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's kind of brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Plus more teams, more hotel rooms, more cities, more involvement, more,
more and more and more. It's all more of everything.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And we'll get.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
To the other part to it is there's like a
there's like an old guard and a new guard thing, right,
Like Kristin Pulisicch decided not to play and he's like,
you know, I'm playing like seventy games overseas. Like I'm good,
I'll see you guys through a World Cup. The old
heads are.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Like beck when I was a kid, we used to
play for TVUSA every time.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And not realizing that, you know, like Alex say a lotless,
I don't think he ever played in Europe when he
did it in play seventy games in Europe, so you know,
even Landon Donovan took a mental break. But regardless of
all of that, getting into hardcore soccer talk, I'm watching
a match. I'm watching this that I played when I
was seven years old. Shout out to the Ballistics. That
(10:05):
was my first ever travel soccer club. I think I
was eight when I joined the Ballistics.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
And.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm like yelling at the screen that don't hurt ball
I was like the worst type of fan, which I
just despise not. I mean, look like even Jay Stu
who openly heckled and recorded himself heckling Jose Altuve yesterday
at the Dodgers game. By the way, ol Tuve hit
(10:36):
a home run surely thereafter the heckling. Good job. You're
just the ultimate motivator, Jays two. That's what you are.
Mookie Betts last year in the playoffs, you did that.
Jose al Tuve hitting a home run yesterday you did
that as well. Anyway, I'm like the worst version of
myself ever. I'm yelling with anger at the screen.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How can you not know that?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And then a buddy of mine text me, He's like,
you know that might not have been a handball. It's like,
what are you talking about? Like he goes down on
his hand on the ball. It couldn't be more obvious,
like yeah, it doesn't actually have to do with that,
like what And it was one of those I was
today years old that I learned that I had no
idea zero, that you could actually hit the ball with
(11:20):
your hands, not be a goalie, and it not be
a handball. Now, look, most people will say that should
have been a handball anyway, but I had no idea.
And I think it speaks to the greater point about soccer,
which is like we all think we know something because
most of us played it. That was our first sport
(11:40):
growing up, right, And then what would you do? There'd
just be like a little cloud of dust running down
the field, going back and forth. And now they start
out with like no goalkeepers or whatever, so it's like
we can't keep score.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And then afterwards then you do the tunnel. The tunnel.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
The kids will love the tunnel and they still get
Capri's sons. How great an invention. I'm where there's somebody,
I'm guessing Jay stew They live in Newport Coast, California, right,
which is pretty much the best baller place ever to
live on Earth. A sandy in the northern part of
San Diego, right, somebody invented the Caprice son there, and
(12:16):
it's just laughing without bringing this up. Caprice Sons still work,
still cool, kids.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Still love them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like I don't know anybody who buys Twinkies or ding
Dongs or Hostess anymore. I know they will survive the
nuclear holocaust, but Caprice Sons people still buy it. Matter
of fact, there are bars that serve drinks with Caprice
son and vodka. Sometimes they just use the Caprice hunt thing.
Do you guys know that? Anyway, we all had the
same experience growing up where we played soccer until we
(12:45):
decided to grow up and play a real sport. That's
just a tinge of sarcasm in there, But because we
played soccer, we assume we know the rules pretty obvious
soccer they call football because you go touch with your
feet unless you're a goalie. Turns out, you can in
fact touch a soccer ball with your hand if you're
playing in the field, but there's some rules to it.
It's got to be kind of natural movements or here's.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
A is it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Mauricio Pachettino, the Argentinian coach of Team USA, after the match.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
I see his massive lesson for us, I don't see
is priceless. I think it's was an amazing tournament to
realize in the way that we wanted to grow.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think that is a knight.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
That is very very painful night, because when you lose
a trophy or you lose a game, is really really painful.
But the most important scene is is to have our
head up.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, have your head up.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Play most of our backups or really competitive and Mexico
beatis big thing is your boy learned not all handballs
or handballs that you can actually touch the ball with
your hands and not get a penalty, although that did
appear to be a penalty.
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Along had he been in charge of the time that
he got changed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
All right, we'll get to that, but first let's get
to our recap of the weekend. Something we call love
and hate?
Speaker 8 (15:02):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
God?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I love you?
Speaker 8 (15:05):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Need these player, hay is.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Love love, love, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate strong words.
We got a strong show. Let's go to our good
friend Jason Stewart. What'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Jace two, I'd love to go west. That's what I
would have loved to do.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, So let's go to Isaac Lowan corn I love
what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
So the Friday counts fourth of July?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Right? Sure?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It was really actually cool memory I mentioned this on
Jonas's show, and he's got me wanted by the cops now.
But like a block away from our house, there's this
long road and people from outside the neighborhood. They set
up shop on this long road and they set off
fireworks all night long on the Fourth of July. So
(15:55):
me and my kids it was like a fireworks parade.
We walked up and down and got to see like
pro level fireworks. My eight year old was shouting fire
in the hall, and I have no idea where you
learn that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So that was kind of a nice memory. So there
we go.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Okay, and buyers free pizza on Friday, by the way.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Too, Okay, let's go to Big Ryan Smith. Ryan, what
you got.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
Well, I do love the Fourth of July. I love
the fireworks, but I hate it when I'm trying to
sleep and the fireworks are going off. I love the
fact that that didn't happen. There weren't a lot of
fireworks going off, so I got peaceful sleep. And that's
what I loved over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Peaceful sleep. Very very nice that you love for the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
By the way, the three of us all live in
you know, southern California. Here, guys, when you woke up
on Saturday morning, like where I lived, it was all
like smoky and hazy, like all over Southern California was
like that for you on Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Absolutely out in the Burbs it was, and the fireworks
were going off the entire weekend. It was a three
day firework exhibit up in the suburbs.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I kind of a diabolical what I liked.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Did you see the video? There's some rapper I've never
heard of him blow off his hand anybody on social media?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, I hadn't heard about this?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Is that this weekend?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, that's what I got to four Extra You guys
ever heard of four Extra boy?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
That's a very ironic name. But okay, no, I so
google him boy.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, four Extra some rapper and he was holding two
M E. D's in his hand, and he's walking around
saying I'm gonna blow and he's dropped an N bomb
up right.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Then there's a video of him blowing off four of
his fingers. Oh man, I have not seen said.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Video, but I'm gonna watch it because that's who I
am and listen. But again, my point is more like,
don't get me wrong, like when fireworks mistakenly go off,
or you know, if a fuse doesn't work, or you know,
if you have all the safety precautions. But I saw
one where somebody gives a Roman candle to like a
(18:21):
two year old who mistakenly goes and runs into the house.
This one with this dude four extra like blowing off
his hand when he's talking about blowing other people up, Like, hey, dude, sorry,
but you did know you were holding a quarter stick
of dynamite in your hand. That's what happens when you
f around and find out you taste too like am
(18:43):
I supposed to feel too too much sympathy when dudes
threatened to blow other people up and then they blow
their own hand off.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I do not Sorry.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Even Lamar Jackson weighed in with his sympathies, posting, damn
for extra y'all be sad with them fireworks then, and
someone replied to that, don't play with fireworks, Lamar, You're
the best running back we have. And Lamar replied, when
I started hearing about people's hands and faces being blowed off,
(19:10):
I stopped that bra So even Lamar Jackson advocating for
fireworks safety, just like.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You, Yeah, love his on hand again.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It's not because I don't feel sympathy for somebody blowing
out their own hand. It's the I'm walking around with
twom Med he's talking about blowing up other people. And
then I bluffed bone hand, Jaseto, what's you left on
the weekend?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Oh man?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
What not to? Of the Astros came to town, and
I'll tell you what. On Friday night did or Herscheizer
cause a stir so. For those that don't know the history,
the Astros cheated their way to a World Serious championship
in twenty seventeen, and the commissioner didn't hold any players accountable,
(19:56):
no punishment, And when asked why you didn't vake the
World Series championship from the Astros, the commissioner said some
mishmouth thing about slippery slopes. I don't know what is
worse than being caught cheating during the World Series in
which you want a championship in I don't know where
the slippery slope exists. But anyways, Dodger fans never forget
(20:19):
what happened, and they never forgot that the Astros never
received any punishment. So on Friday Night, or Herscheiser, much
to his credit, God bless him, Bulldog on Friday Night,
I think it was Joe Davis. He said this on
the broadcast.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
It hard the deep center field pot has on the
round a turn of watch this one wedgs itself in
the bottom of the world and cam Smith flying into second,
anchoring there with another extra base. It for the Astros
double homer, double Philip and third against Casparios.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I have a lot of.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Open hold room, but in some ways they're swinging at
these breaking balls like they know when it's coming.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
So earl, earl with a great line, and that went
viral and Astros Twitter really hated it. I retweeted hashtag
never forget hashtag Houston Asterisks and got a crapload from
the Houston Astros of when are you guys going to
get over this? It's been eight years? How about this?
(21:20):
If you guys were properly punished, we would probably be
over it by now. So I blame Manfred and I
blame Astros for having the lack of character to cheat.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
There you go, there you go. Okay, that's what we love.
Let's get to it. We hated over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Our resident hater is nonther than Jason Stewart goes last
in love because he loves the least first.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I hate because he hates the most. Chase two.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You hate to see the Astros sweep the Dodgers ever,
but you definitely hated to see the Astros sweep the
Dodgers this past weekend at Dodger Stadium. And then I
will had a really good seat to see the final
game of that sweep, one in which the well one
holdover from the twenty seventeen squad, Jose al Tuv I
(22:05):
went to boo him and heckle him personally, and he
launched a home run in the ninth inning. I think
was a direct response to my heckling. He was asked
after the game about this heckling from yours truly.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Is that what twenty seventh stamps for the number of
pitches you saw coming to the twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Huh? Is that what twenty seventh stamps for? Answer me?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
He never answered me, but he did hit a home
run in the ninth inning the Astro swept. When he
was asked afterwards, he said it rattled him for a
little bit, but he gained his composure for his last
at bat.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That was terrible trash talk, too wordy. Nobody's catching up
all those words.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is it because he's English second language or do you
just think he was too wordy?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Anyways, I just thought he was too wordy that a
short pointed to the point like like again, I know
the fan got in trouble for it because he yelled
at the wrong do But like your.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Mom is better than is twenty seven?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
The number of times you knew a ball was coming
to you back in the previous playoffs, not last year
or the year before or the year before that, but
back several years ago?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Is that the number?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Dedunt?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Should we send Jason to Robin Ficker for some for
a consultation on proper heckling technique?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Is that the old heckler from the Washington.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Capitals Washington Wizards when they were the Bullets.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But yes, sir, yeah, Washington Bullets. That's right. He used
to like read things to Michael Jordan. It was he
was great.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah when the Jordan rules came out?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, what what did I hate from the weekend? Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Well, I'm I hate the fact that people and listen,
I know what's gonna happen tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I live on a lake, so it's really cool on
Fourth July you look around the lake and there's just
everywhere you can go fireworks. But like, we've hit the
point where it's over it was a little bit over
last night. Now it's really over. And I understand you
may not have a dog, you may not have little kids.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I have a dog. I have three.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Actually one is definitely afraid of fireworks, really uncomfortable. So
for Fourth July we put them in the room. We
can surround them with blankets. You know, it's all his
favorite things. Try and get them away from the noise
so he doesn't know what's happening, all that stuff. But
once you get past, like, hey, we're a three day weekend,
it's over. Stop blowing up the damn fireworks. Okay, stop stop,
(24:53):
it's over. Fourth of July is over.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Move on. I love What do you got?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
But both sides of the coin. By the way, what
are the names of your dogs? I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
We have Odell Beckham Junior Junior, we have Luca dog Chicks,
and we have Vince Lombardi. Well to well, first five, well,
he goes by Odi or Odell, Okay, then Luca goes
by chomps them chomps, and then uh, Vincent Lombardi goes
by Barty Barty Odie chumps.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you're keeping score at home, within two minutes on
this broadcast, Doug has insulted me for being too wordy
and maybe too nuances.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It was constructive, constructive feedback.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
More and then he gives the name of those dogs
that are far too nuanced and wordy.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, no, no, listen, that's their full names. Okay. My name
is Douglas Mitchell Gottlieb. I go by Doug. Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It calls me Doug or dg or Doug Gottlieb. Okay,
so it's not nuanced. He asked the names. I gave
him the names. Then I gave what we actually call them.
That's okay, you were too wordy. No one would argue otherwise,
like Ryan, was that good trash talk from Jason Stewart
at Live in a baseball game?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
No, it was pretty bad, right, I love that was
a small sample size, but I see ways that he
could have been more effective.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, So the point is that I'm your friend and
I'm telling you it was bad.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Do better.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And I have several other baseball friends who are like,
Jason's really heckling. Jose al Tuve, he's such a fan,
the he's such a fan. I was like, yeah, he
actually is. He's a real fan, real fan.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
This is a sore subject. But during your first sideline
this past year, would would would you find me game? Okay,
we were there.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They're terrible.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Were there any that you kind of chuckled to yourself
and said, no, that's that was pretty clever.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yes, there was so so most of them were really
most of you are terrible at it, Like go do
a podcast like that's not really trash talk, it's not
really past talk.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But there was.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There was a group at Cleveland State and what happened
was one of the guys was got a little bit
over the line where he was talking to asking him
where my daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Harper's where's Harper? Where's Harper? Bring harp right?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So I went in a halftime halftime, I walked over
and I said, hey, look man, okay, that's out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
My daughter's out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So mentor again, I'll have you escorted out of the arena,
which is my right as a coach.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So we go back to the second half and.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
They're like, where's Gauge. What Gauge is my nephew. He's
he was a senior high school. Now he's going to
GCU as a manager Grand Canyon and he's like.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Is gauge out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I thought that was funny. I thought that was funny.
That was a quick adjustment by a Cleveland State student.
Most of them were terrible, though. Every got heckled every game, so.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
They're actually taking the time to do deep internet research.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Group that group did. It's not that deep, but that
group did.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Most groups is just like, go back to your podcast
or your radio show.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Sucks to Okay, thanks.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
By the way, that's cool about Gage Grand Canyon is
a great, great environment there, you go, great arena down there.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's gonna work for Bryce. Uh. Bryce true a riot Smith.
You know what I.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Really like going to a podcast that's funny. I'm sorry,
it's not meaning, it's just funny. I was like, it's
it's so random, go to a podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Welcome to a podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I hated the.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Fact that I had to relive the Astros beating the
Dodgers in that World Series, that Game seven when the
Dodgers lost. That was my birthday. I was that crushed
me and I and this weekend when we got swept
by them. I really hated that. So that would that's
what really take me off over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And that is love and hate. Jay Stu, Jay Stu,
you know you know why that segment went so much quicker.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Let's see we have Ryan and I lo one here.
Sam's out.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, that's we know our reason right that last part. YEP,
we love Sam. But if you think that your trash
talk was wordy, I give you Iowa Sam.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
We're making a point.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's been word He doesn't quite know where the stops
on is. You know that is the over aggressive runner
who goes right through the stops on.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
He reminds me of was it plane trains and automobiles
where John Candy's driving the wrong way down the road
and some guy he pulls up alongside somebody and Gay goes.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You're going the wrong way, and he goes, you want
to race? He reminds me of you want to race?
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Here for Mexico albaadle de fake now it's hooked it.
It takes a flucking ats and Alvarez the fly cops
up for offside. Mexico have had multiple goals ruled out
for offside at this tournament and he's having a look
at this right now. Again, we're not looking for clear
and obvious here as we would at MLS.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
What is looking for the right decision.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
And it is a good goal.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
It is a Mexico goal. It is ed Sin Alvarez
who's given Mexico the lane with twelve minutes to play.
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get me the state of the LA Lakers, right, DeAndre
Aytons signs Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
There was.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Brian windhors Is like, Hey, I never said this before,
but wouldn't be crazy if you know there's a window
there where Lebron could be moved.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
What's the state of the Lakers as of what is
this July.
Speaker 11 (32:09):
Seventh looks it's not beyond the realm of possibility, But
the reality is it's more a reflection of the relationship
between Lebron and the Lakers than their ability to actually
do something, which is, he knows they're moving on. They
know they're moving on. He no longer has the same
(32:32):
juice there and so a lot of this, a lot
of this is just trying to create as much leverage
for Lebron as he can in terms of his influence
remaining influence with the team. But the fact of the
matter is they're building around Luka Doncic and what they
would get back for Lebron. I don't think they have
(32:54):
any issue with moving on from Lebron or moving Lebron
at this point, But what they would get back for
him wouldn't be commensurate with what he's still capable of
doing for them. So as big as a contract is no,
but this idea that people want like or thinking of
(33:15):
Lebron in the same terms as fans do NBA teams.
And it's been a couple of years now. I've talked
to a number of you know, over the years when
he's suggested that he might look around or he might
go someplace else, And I had any number of owners say,
I just don't know that it's financially worth it at
(33:36):
this point, because you know, it's a rental. You know,
he's their short term and it's not just him as
a player, it's everything else that you have to give
over or deal with as a result of Lebron being
part of your franchise. So I know there's the popular
thing is he's going to go back to Cleveland. It
makes no sense for Cleveland at this stage for where
(33:58):
that team is and what they're building. Why do you
reach back. I mean it would be a nostalgic move
if certainly Lebron I think on some levels would invite,
you know, one last year in Cleveland, but for the
arc of that team and where they are, it doesn't
make any sense and I can't. I can't look at
another team where I say acquiring Lebron James makes sense.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, so what do you think? Give me the best guess.
What do you think happens over this and into next year?
Speaker 11 (34:34):
I would imagine that, Well, what I'm waiting for is
to hear whether this is going to be Lebron's last run.
And I don't know that he's decided that, but it
it feels like it's simply because he could have opted
out and created his normal scenario of signing a one
(34:56):
on one and extending it and giving us the impression
that he is he's considering playing another year, he didn't
do that, and I think this is this might be
the first time where he's actually exercised his option for
the final year and is playing it out. And maybe
some of that is to check the landscape. I hate
(35:17):
to say it, but check the landscape is a pasta
Is there a world where Bronnie and Bryce and Lebron
can all play together? You know, whether that's on his
on his bucket list or not. But then again, you
have to look at what franchise at this stage is
looking to have Lebron and his two sons and would
(35:38):
be willing to do all that is necessary the sacrifice
is made to make that happen. It would be an
interesting box office draw, but as far as the development
and evolution of a franchise, it would be a hard sell.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yes, it can be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
My problem with them saying it's his last go round
would be he would have to have the We know
he wants a tour, right like he wants all the celebration. Sure,
and if he wanted that, why didn't you know why
the messaging recently, although the messaging never seems to add
up to the reality, So I'm not really that.
Speaker 11 (36:19):
Would Honestly, I feel as if a lot of the
messaging coming from from Rich Paul primarily is just trying
to create the image or the impression. I mean, part
of it is like I'm still playing for championships, Let's
be serious. I mean, what what like that's just you know,
it's just lip service at this point. There there's there's
(36:42):
not a world in which if that is truly the case,
then you would be doing the Tom Brady thing and
you would be taking less than you're eligible to take.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And and you wouldn't have and you wouldn't have had
them focus so much attention on Brownie, right like, like
you wouldn't.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
All of that, all of that he's not as is.
Could he be part of a championship team? Absolutely he could, yes, yes,
But is he willing to play the role necessary to
be part of a championship team? And that's that's the
heart of it. And you know that, I know that,
(37:20):
and fans may not recognize that, but I assure you
that NBA franchises.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Do okay, Golden State Warriors, Yes, their status.
Speaker 11 (37:31):
Oh man, that's an interesting, interesting dynamic there. I mean,
they're exploring to see what the market is for Kaminga
and you know, the the impressions right now or are
they're they're stuck in this place where again sort of
like the Lebron question, you know, can we get better?
Can we trade him for something that's going to make
us appreciably better? And they have not seen or heard
(37:55):
anything to this point that I know of that that
rings that bell. There's a lot of talk about Al
Horford uh coming in there. I think that gives you
a great indicator of what their what their mindset is,
which is We're we're going to ride this out, Draymond
set Jimmy like, we're we're maybe we should have thrown
(38:17):
everything to taking one last run with these guys a
couple of years ago when they tried to kind of
do both develop the young guys and uh and and
serve the remaining stars. But as of right now, it's
we're just going to push everything. We're going to push
all our chips to the middle of the table. We're
(38:37):
going to see what's the best team that we can
build right now, and we're not going to worry about tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Okay, can they build a championship caliber team right?
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Like?
Speaker 11 (38:50):
I just I don't know. I don't know that they can.
And this is the heart of it. It it it
starts with death. Not that step isn't still a very
good to great player and don't tell me about making
all NBA and all that, and that's who he is.
But he just he can't do as much as he
(39:13):
needs to with this cast around him. And if you
look at Guards point guards, this is the next everybody's
like in the Adels, his dad said, you know he
could play into his forties, Yeah he could. But as
far as being an All Star as far as being
a difference maker, Like if you look at Jayson Kidd,
(39:35):
John Stockton, Chris Paul, like all of them, even as
good as they were about taking care of their bodies
and as smart as they were and all of that,
he's right at the age where they can still play
and they can still be confident, but they're no longer
(39:56):
at a star level. And that is that's the role
of the dice here, and that's the reality of where
we are is that is Death just isn't the megastar
that he once was. And so you look at this
team and neither's Draymond at the top of his game.
So you look at it and it's really you know,
(40:18):
who's who's going to make up for the fact that
you don't have you know, nine, ten, eleven deep, that
you're you're relying on a second round pick in Quinton
Post to be a factor and you're getting the most
or got the most out of a buddy heel. It's
just it's diminishing returns. It's just the reality. And I
think that when people see the personal accolades or they
(40:41):
look at the statistics of the numbers, they think that
these guys are the same as they were, and they're
simply not stuck.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, where are
we with Giannis in regards to stay or go?
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Everything that I have heard to this point is that
he's still he's still saying that that he's you know,
there's a lot of innuendo about he didn't like the
Damian Lillard move or the Miles Turner move, and I
think once it if that was ever true, and I
don't know that it was, but if it was ever true,
once it was explained to him why they did what
(41:18):
they did, and that they did Damien a favor, uh,
and that by doing what they did with Damien it
actually allowed them to sign a Miles Turner and be
more competitive in the short term. This wasn't this wasn't
like pairing it to the stud This was wheezing out.
How do we still stay in the mix? So I
(41:38):
think with all of that and the guys that they've
re signed, everything that I know to this point is
as sexy as it would be to entertain, where could
Yannis go and what's going to happen next? Everything that
I know is that he's still planning to stay in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Mike is the new head coach of the Knicks. Yeah,
how does what's the league saying about that?
Speaker 11 (42:06):
Yeah? I mean, I uh, if this had been their
plan from the start, they jumped out there and recruited
or interview Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown, and we're trying
(42:26):
to decide where they were going to go there, I
think people would would would feel a little more confident
about this. Nobody's looking at Nobody in the league looks
at at at this move and has told me, Oh,
this is just what they needed to have happened, Like
this is going to make the difference. Tom Thibodeau had
(42:51):
his strengths and weaknesses. Mike Brown has his strengths and weaknesses.
They're kind of along the same line. Mike Brown's offense
the game UH and understanding has evolved somewhat, but still
for the most part, he's a defensive oriented coach. He's
a little soft touch than uh than tips his approach
(43:13):
and his personality, but it's not it's not as anybody's
looking at Mike Brown and saying he's going to be
a game changer. And my concern is the last time
I saw him in a big market was in LA
and that was short lived and UH and New York
is a lot grittier and a lot tougher than UH
(43:34):
than than LA. The microscope is a lot more intense,
and I'll be interested to see how he handles that,
particularly with the bar set where it is. They have
to be good, They have to be good right from
the start, and we'll see whether whether he's capable of
meeting the mark.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Last thing.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Rick Pieker's our guest year on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Uh, there's there's a bunch
of teams and players we haven't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Spoken about what's the next shoe to drop? Right?
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Kevin Rant's been moved, Lillard's a free agent. Okay, but
there's a bunch of guys who's that What's what's the
next shoe to drop?
Speaker 11 (44:20):
I we go back to the Warriors trying to find
a way to move Kaminga. I mean, I don't know
that of the teams that you know, we look at
that are we're intrigued by as far as what are
they going to do next? I know there's a lot
there's still some speculation out there that Memphiss is testing
(44:42):
the Waters with John rant and and what they could
possibly do or get there again. I think it's going
to have to be I don't think they're Their impetus
to move him is we have to move him, we
have to find a deal. Like we're turning the page.
I think it's they're exploring to see whether there's something
(45:03):
out there for them to do. And I at the
end of the day, I don't know that they're going
to get something. They haven't been presented anything to this
point that they're going to be presented something that's going
to convince them this is the move to make. We're
going to be better as a result, we're going to
sell more tickets, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Rick Buker check them out at Fox Sports One. Of course,
you can hear him right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Reada's work at foxsports dot com. Buki the best, Thanks
so much for joining us.
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