The Truth Will Set You Free

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You're boom, What up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports
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and of course, uh, two NBA teams that people assume.
One next year we'll get a player that makes people
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some of that, some of the new Lebron discussions upcoming,
plus last night's Monday Night football game which is a snoozer,
and why you can call out your quarterback without actually

(00:43):
calling out your quarterback. Lots to get to. Jerry Jones
defendses Zeke Elliott. Not a shocker if you follow Jerry
Jones before. But what I want to start with is
Kevin Durant admitting that he's sorry, not sorry. Right. So,
Kevin Durant yesterday we we covered and has been discussed

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and even joked about, that he had, uh he had
a burner Twitter account that he was tweeting back and forth.
And of course then that Twitter account uh somehow morphed
into his regular Twitter account where he let it be known,
or at least we assumed it was him. Let it
be known. The real reason he left Oklahoma City for

(01:26):
Golden State was he didn't love the organization. He didn't
love playing for Billy Donovan. And it wasn't anything to
do with Russell Westbrook. It was more there just wasn't
enough talent around them. If you take Russ off that team,
then what's left. Kevin Durant has addressed the situation. He
was at the Tech Crunch in San Francisco. This was

(01:49):
earlier today. Take a listen. I do have other Instagram account,
but that's just for my friends and family, So I
wouldn't say I was using that to clap back in anybody.
But I lose Twitter to engage with the fans. I
think it's a great way to engage with, you know,
basketball fans. But I happened to take it a little
too far. And that's what happened sometimes when I get

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into these basketball debates or you know, what I really
love is just to play basketball. I went a little
too far. And I don't regret clapping back at anybody
or talking to my fans on Twitter. I do regret
um using my former coach's name and the former organization
that I played for. That was childish, that was idiotic,
all those type of words. I regret doing that, and

(02:31):
I apologize to him for doing that. But um, I
don't think I'll ever stopped engaging with my fans. I
think they, you know, really enjoyed now. I think it's
a good way to connect us all. But um, I
was I was scaled back a little bit right now
and just focus on playing basketball. So I want to
move on from that. It was tough to deal with yesterday.
I was really upset with myself, but I definitely want

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to move on and keep playing basketball. So but I
still want to interact with my fans as well. Let
me explain it. First thing, Kevin read not once did
he deny what was tweeted. And most people asked for
a pass saying they were hacked. Right, we didn't hear
that from Kevin Durant. So he did say you got me,
it was me. He didn't say it was my boy.

(03:15):
He didn't do that. Chris Carter, I got to have
a fall guy, right, There was no fall guy. He
in fact is the fall guy. Now. Look, he said,
I regret using my former coaches name and talking about
my former organization. He didn't say that he regretted what
he said about his former coach or what he said
about his former organization. That's because he's sorry, not really sorry. Now.

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I don't know if you guys ever studied Sigmund Freud,
and there's a there there is. There's a bit of
a split in the uh psychological community, in the psychologist community,
and that there are some that believe in Freud's uh
Freud's belief, you know, the ID and the the ego

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and the id that there's a sense of guilt that
exists before the crime. In other words, that somebody wants
to get caught. That's sure what it feels like. It
may be subconscious from Kevin Durant that he wanted to
get caught, But there's a lot of people sitting out
there going like, dude, he was tweeting just left and
right from two different accounts. It's really easy to track

(04:27):
the two. At some point this they had to merge people.
He had to know what was gonna happen. He wanted
to get caught, right. It's like the guy who is
so out there with how he cheats on his girl
eventually gets caught. Like you know what, I I didn't
I didn't like her anyway. I want her to break
up with me. This is the easiest reason why. I
don't know if you believe in that Sigmund Freud theory

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right there, that that guilt exists before the before the
crime is actually committed, and that somebody wants to get
caught and that's why they that's one of the reasons
they commit a crime that's easy to catch them on.
But it sure feels that way. But let's give Kevin
Urrant credit. He got caught, and he didn't do the

(05:10):
fall guy thing. He didn't say he was hacked, he
didn't say somebody else took his phone. He just said
it was childish and idiotic and I shouldn't have named
my coach's name or my former team's name. But you
know what, else, He's probably he felt really bad yesterday.
He'll probably start to feel really good from this point forward,

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because there isn't anything that was said on Twitter that,
from his perspective, is a lie. And it also gives
us a much clear, more honest sense of why he
left Oklahoma City. It's Scotty Brooks is his guy. They
fired his guy. Billy Donovan was not his coach. He
didn't jibe with him. He hadn't coached in the pros before.

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There was a learning curve. He didn't necessarily dig it.
And the team doesn't have that much talent. I was
screaming to the hilltops, and maybe some of you were too,
when people say, look at how talented this team is.
I'm not saying that Steven Adams isn't talented, but how
easy useful. In two thousand seventeen in the NBA, I

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go through that roster. Andre Robertson can't shoot, couldn't shoot
a lick right, And so wherever he was, that guy's
man was guarding Kevin Durant. You tell me where all this,
all this talent is littered on the roster. You had
Russell Westbrook, you had Kevin Durant, and then you didn't
have a single other player that was worthy of All

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Star consideration. And so the way it feels when you
get caught, but you're speaking the truth, when you get caught,
is you feel really bad about the way it comes out.
You feel really bad that. I'm sure Kevin Durant feels
really bad that he made somebody else feel bad because
that's who he is as a person. But in a

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couple of days, this too shall pass, and now at
least it's out there. The real reason he left had
nothing to do with Russell Westbrook. The real reason he
left had nothing to do with Oklahoma City. The real
reason he left was this team is better, this coach
is better. He's surrounded by better team, better coach, better talent,
better organization, and that's why he's out. It's things, but

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the truth shall set you free, and Kevin Durant is
a free man today. That's why he's sorry. Not sorry,
all right. Mark Laira will join the show up coming
next I'll ask him get his thoughts on last night's game,
Lions any good? Or is this more about the Giants
and their inability to protect Eli Manning? Eli Manning's inability

(07:46):
to deliver the ball on time in rhythm. Although there
were some path like look, there's just a litany of problems.
Eli has never been fleet of foot, plus he's older,
so it takes him longer to get back and even
hand the ball off. They don't have a good running game,
they don't have good offensive line. Brandon Marshall's washed up.
They didn't have Genora's Jenkins last night. But the defense
is okay, that's not why they got beat. And then

(08:07):
some of their decision making end of first half. What
what was what was Macadoo doing allowing the clock to
run down end of the first half before that made
fifty six yard field goal by the Detroit lines. You
call the time out, kicked the field goal. You still
got a minute left to go get a field goal back?
What a what a mess it is with the New

(08:27):
York Giants, all New York NFL football that said that
it was a game that could be won, could have
been won in spite of the fact they couldn't protect
Eli Manning, they can't establish the running game. Give me
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(08:49):
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He's uh Fox Sports NFL analysts a three time Super
Bowl champ, and we'll get his take on Monday Night football.
Dino in Pittsburgh joins the show. What's up? Dino? Hey dog, Hey,
I love to hear your show. I love your points,

(10:37):
but I must I must agree and disagree with you.
Number one Durant is with a better organization and a
better team. The thing is okay, see was one game
one Durant monster terrible game from when from getting to
the finals, and they had a great supporting cast Kobe
and Shack. When they won, they were the two All

(10:59):
Stars and every else with supporting cast. I'm not disputing
that they were supporting cast. But they were also better
coached by a coaches. Coach won eleven NBA titles, and
they were surrounded with the right pieces to create space
for them to be themselves. That's I mean, that's really
what this is about. I mean, let's like, let's not
misremember exactly who the Oklahoma City Thunder were the year

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that he left. That's that's honestly, like, go back and look,
remember that's a team that was fifty five and seven,
and yes, he played poorly in Game six, totally fair.
They got lit up by Clay Thompson. Completely fair. But
it's also fair to point out that you know, he
had to carry them, He and Russ had to carry

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them because look what's happened to Serge Ibaka since Steven
Adams and his cantor Dion Waiters Andre Robertson, Like, who's
the other guy? There is no other guy? The differences.
The difference was that the Lakers had Derek Fisher, the
Lakers had Big Shot Bob. The Lakers had their guys,
and that's not simply not on. Their talent was not

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on par with the Warriors, with the Spurs. Neither was
their coaching in terms of NBA experience. And I love
Billy Donovan had been a tremendous college coach, but this
is his true, honest perspective and reason for leaving Oklahoma City,
and it's really hard to argue with it. I appreciate
the call of you know, let's uh, let's work in
Mark Schlaire, three time Superowl champion, who joins the show.

(12:27):
Mark all right, So, how much of the Giants offensive
dysfunction is on Eli? How much of it is on
on other stuff? Well? I think the majority of it's
on other stuff. You know, I'm watching a play last
night after Eli has gotten his brains beat in. I mean,
he got planted in the turf so hard. One time

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I thought he was gonna go through the turf and
see where they buried Jimmy Hoffa. I mean it was
like that was frightening how hard he got hit last night,
and so late in that game it's still a very
close and in winnable game. I see him redirect protection.
I see him reclaimed, reassigned the mic from the middle
linebacker forty to a different linebacker. Changed the protection so

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the offensive line goes the light linebacker, which allows the
running back go to the slot corner blitzed right, So
you pick up the four week he makes the change.
He's still under pressure. He throws a dime down the
sideline to Ingram and you know the play gets broken up.
But this is late in the game. That's advanced quarterbacking
stuff right there, and we're gonna sit there and say, well,
Eli has lost it. I don't know anybody, especially a

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drop back pocket passer, they can sustain that kind of
beating and play well. And I would look at it
from a coaching standpoint, like Ben McAdoo is gonna call
him out for the mismanagement of the clock and not
getting the ball snapped on the fourth down play. How
about you mismanaging the entire game. And I'm understanding that

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your last tackle couldn't block his way out of a
wet paper sack, and you're still gonna leave him one
on one of bus times of fianza. Yeah more? Why
did they chipping more? I mean Ansa was just dominating
Eric Flower's you. I mean, you have to give that
guy help every time, don't you? Every single time? And
you're gonna have to give up. I know you. You
know you want to spread the ball around, and you've

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got all these new toys on the outside. The bottom line,
I don't care how much talent you have on the outside.
Receiver is probably the most dependent position in football, and
if you can't block guys in, your quarterback can execute
throw the ball. I don't care how much money you spend.
I don't care how flashy they are. I don't care
how much blonde errors out there. They're not gonna They're

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not gonna affect the game at all. I look at
oh b J is like the only way he could
affected that game, so he could play left tackle. That's it.
And the fact that you're a coach and you're gonna
sell your quarterback out there for clock management, not getting
the ball snap and you don't essentially completely change the
way you protect like Ben Macca do. How about Been
Maca do do? Because that's about what you're in game

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adjustments for worth. I don't know, man, I mean, you
could sit there and blame Eli all day long, but
you know that he's not mobile, so we know that
it's not gonna be like, hey, let's change his launching point.
Let's get him outside the pocket like we can with
Matthew Stafford. But for crying, not allowed to sit there
and blame it on Eli Manning like Eli Manning is.
The problem to me is it just doesn't give him

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the proper amount of respect that he deserves for what
he was what he was doing with last night. Marc
Layris joining us in the dug Otlip show. All right,
what about the Lions. They're sitting there at two and oh,
but it wasn't like they as ineffective. It's kind of
similar to the Cowboys, where the Cowboys defense was effective
but their offense was relatively ineffective in Olae win. Kind

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of same thing last night where they allowed the Giants
to kind of hang around and get a special teams
touchdown which would seemed to put it away. Um, I
guess the question is. I mean, I think we'd all
agree the Lions are good, but are they like best
team in a division good? Seeing as the Packers flaws
also because of injury, not having their tackles. But the
Packers flaws have been exposed. Give me your thoughts on

(16:09):
the Lions now that we've seen them. I think the
Lions are outstanding football team, and I think anytime you
look at where they are offensively, I think you always
have to put it in context. Like the Dallas Cowboys.
We know how good they are running the football, and
then all of a sudden they have to play against
dever Broncos in that environment, in that crowd noise, with
the no flaw zone, and it was probably the first

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time that I have ever watched Dak Prescott looked like
a young player, like he came into the league, and
he didn't look young. I mean, he looked like a
seasoned veteran, like an old soul guy. And all of
a sudden, you put him in a position where he
looked shell shocked, like he looked totally beside himself, and

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the Broncos will do that to you. You know, it's
the first time I've ever seen that guy look like
like a young second year, you know, second game of
his second season quarterback. And that says a lot about
the Denver Broncos and what they are defense. And I
look at I look at the Lions, and I think
you're playing against one of the supremely gifted defenses in football.

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I think their front four is exceptional. I think with
j J. Jpp on one edge and Olivia Verne, who's
a phenomenal football player on the other edge, with Snacks
in the middle, lineback and corps, they've got, in my mind,
the best secondary in an NFC, the second best secondary
in all the football behind the Broncos. I mean, the
fact that you have some sustained drives and you put

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up the points you didn't. I understand one of them
was a special team suchdown, but I'm saying you did
a pretty damn good job against that team in New York.
So I think that I think the lines are legit,
and I think they're gonna give I think they're gonna
give the Green Bay Packers a run for their money
for that division ground. That's the voice of Mark shlairat
three times Super Bowl champion Fox Sports NFL analyst, joining

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us on the Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, let's let's kind of peruse around a couple
other things I gotta pick your brain about in the league.
So you mentioned Dak Prescott. I saw him being rattled
as well. And I understand that you're playing in Denver
and that that pass rush and the crowd noise and
the no fly zone and all of that. I felt

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like Ezeki Elliott quittin on interception and and oh yeah,
by the way, and he wasn't the only Dees. Brian
also quit on the play on the interception as well.
But Zeke quitting on it, to me, that was more
about his disgust at at DAC than it was him
quitting on his team. What's your take on when you
see a star, young star running back not give any

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effort after interception. Well, I think it's I think it's
the same thing that we've talked about in regards to
Dez Bryant the past. I think it's the same thing
we talked about in regards to oh b J. I
think it's the same thing we've been talking about all
off season in regards to Ezekiel Elliott emotional maturity and

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the lack thereof emotional maturity. And I understand you're getting
your ass whipped. And trust me, I've had mine whipped plenty,
all right. The bottom line is you're gonna turn that
You're gonna turn that film on on Monday after that,
but whipping that you took, and you're gonna watch that
film and you're gonna say, who is still fighting, Who

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is still giving great effort, Who is still you know,
tooth and nail clawing their way in trying to make
something big happen, And who has just been, you know,
just exhausted and just thrown under the towel and throwing
their hands up Because that's a bad look and that
comes with the maturity and having grown ups on your

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football team. We need some grown ups. Where are the
grown ups? And you know, the issues that you have
had off the field, those were those to me are
are the emotional lack of emotional chuarty that you have
shown off the field was shown on Sunday in Denver.
I understand it's not fun to get your public been there, man,

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done it both physically, mentally everything else. That's not a
fun thing to do. But you need to be grown
up enough and mature enough and adult enough to handle
your business like a professional. And I don't always say
just because you play a pro sport doesn't make you
a professional. And there was a lack of professionalism in
the effort that was given by Zeke Elliott on Sunday. Um, look,

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every Chargers game seems to end the same way, right
with some sort of disappointment, and like, look, I get
that they were lucky to even be in that Denver game.
And it wasn't the young kicker's fault that the that
the field goal was blocked, but it was in fact blocked.
And then they have a rookie kicker who misses two
field goals, including what should have been a game winner
and the home opener in Carson. How do you how

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do you change that? How do you change that kind
of culture of losing the expectation that that that something
bad is going to happen into the expectation you know
that good teams have where they always expect something good
to happen, right, And that is a mentality. And you know,
we always see teams take over, our new coaches come
into an organizations that we have to change the culture.

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And it's always an easy thing to talk about changing
the culture. It's a really hard thing to do. And
you know, teams that are in that situation, Doug, expect
that bad things to happen. They're just looking for I
always used to say this when when I was a
member of really good football teams, the Redskins in one
that won eleven in a row right off the bat

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of the season, the Broncos in that want to back
championships and one thirteen in a row to start the season.
You're always be people's best shot. But I always said this.
You know, when you play the bad teams in this league,
their coaches are preaching, hey, we gotta play a perfect game.
You know, we've got to really be sharp. And my

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thought to that was, there's never been a perfect game played,
and something bad is going to happen. There's gonna be
a mistake. How do you as a football team react
to that mistake? Do you embrace the state's all right, man,
we're just gonna keep falling over or is it the
tipping point that you say, I'll shoot here we go.

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We didn't play a perfect game. We made a mistake.
And the teams that culturally are looking for that one
bad thing to happen, because to me, that's the excuse,
the excuse to roll over. Um, they'll never get out
of that swump. Winning is it still is losing. And
when you've had that kind of cultural experience and you

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almost are just waiting for the other shoe to drop,
you're waiting for that bad thing to happen to you.
When it does happen to you, mentally, do you just
flat going to take And that's the San Diego charges.
They just feel snakedid, whether it's injuries, whether it's bad
things happening at the end of the games. Go back
to last year. They dominate the Kansas City Chiefs to
open up the season last year and somehow will give

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up a huge, a huge lead at the end of
that game and lose the football game. And that's just
kind of who they are and that's their culture. And
at some point you just gotta realize, Hey, some bad
things you're gonna they're gonna happen to it, and we're
just gonna find a way to overcome it. Um, the
Saints are owing to no other team their division even
has a loss. That's because Tampa has only played one game.
And I'll granted they played Carolina this week, and Carolina

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has suffered through a litany of really tough injuries, including
Greg Olsen out with a broken foot. But at O
and two, and it's not easy to start at Minnesota
and then home to the Patriots. But they are in two,
and the defense does not appeared to have been fixed.
The offense has good running backs, and yet it's a
pass it's really a passing offense. Mismatch parts. I guess

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that the question becomes like, at some point, do you say, look,
Drew Brees is the most is the best quarterback we've
ever had, but we might need to move on. And
Sean Payton is the best coach we've ever had. But
he keeps trying to redo this thing and it's not
being rebuilt the right way. What do you do of
your New Orleans? Yeah, there comes a time when you

(24:05):
have to really, you know, make heart evaluations and really
as that's kind of where you're at. And you're right,
I mean, this is a past happy offense with the
past happy quarterback with you know, but with with your
best player now playing in New England and Brandon Cooks, Um,
you're just really you're really strapped, like you mentioned, and

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I think at some point, you know, you look at
Drew Brees and you look at the money that you've
tied into that, the mismanagement of the cap, the fact
that you have not been able to put pieces around him.
You want a championship, and you were really good for
a lot of years and you could win games just
by outscoring people. Now you still can't play defense, so
you still haven't been able to address that issue. And oh,

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by the way, now you don't have the pieces in
place for Drew Brees to be successful, So now you
can't outscore anybody either. And let's face it, based on
Week one, it's not like you faced the O. They
are not defense in the New England Patriots. So I'm
I'm with you, and I'm I'm a big Sean Payton fan,
and I'm a big Tew Breeze fan. But these are
the tough decisions you have to make as an NFL franchise,

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And there comes a time when you have to look
at your franchise and and as much as you love
your players, um, there comes a time when you have
to blow that thing up and start over from scratch.
And that goes you know, throughout that whole organization, whether
it's Mickey Loomis in the front office or whatever. They
have not done a good job of managing the cap.
They have not done a good job of of, in

(25:34):
my mind, of putting players in place to you know,
to sustain kind of that offensive juggernaut or at least
fix that defense. And at some point, um, you know,
you've got to reevaluate, say maybe maybe the best thing
for both of us is a fresh start. And doesn't
mean that I think that Sean Paynton is great, and
I think you can coach his butt off, but I

(25:54):
just don't think they have the personnel to get that done.
Or maybe it's maybe it's the front office and you
change at the front office, and you say, we're gonna
give you the pieces that actually will help you kind
of get back on top. But I think sometimes change
is a really good thing, and I think within an
organization it needs to happen occasionally. Mark Hlaire three times
through Bowl Champion. You can of course see him on

(26:15):
Fox and Fox Sports One. You can hear him on
Fox Sports Radio. Sank, thanks so much for joining us
man anytime, Brother Pleasure is mind. Are the Chiefs for
real or is this the same Chiefs team we've always
seen in the regular season. We'll discuss that upcoming on
the Doug Gottlip Show. First, so let's catch up with
Dan Buyer and find out what else is going on
the world of sport. I know you're gonna talk about

(26:36):
whether the Chiefs are real or not. But you touched
on this a little bit earlier that the tweets from
Kevin Durant were real that he sits out yesterday criticizing
the Oklahoma City Thunder supporting cast outside of Russell Westbrook
and also criticizing Billy Donovan and those Twitter to engage
with the fans. But I happened to take it a
little too far, and that's what happens. STIM's when I

(26:57):
get into these basketball debates. And I don't regret clapping
back at anybody who we're talking to my fans on Twitter.
I do regret using my former coach's name and the
formal organization that I played for. It I was child. Yes,
he says he regrets that, and also that those comments
were idiotic, But that was Kevin Durant today. Some news
from the National Football League grimm By Packers wide receiver
Jordy Nelson reportedly fifty fifty to play against the Bengals

(27:19):
on Sunday. That's according to ESPN. Panthers have placed tennant
Greg Golson and injured reserve where they broken foot, but
the Panthers could bring him back if he heals after
eight weeks. In The Acron Beacon Journal says the Browns
are likely to place wide receiver Cory Coleman on injured
reserve where they broken hand, which would cost him at
least eight weeks of the season. In baseball cups, giving
Chris Bryant the day off for tonight's game against the

(27:41):
Tampa Bay Rays. New PGA tour schedule is out two
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(28:06):
by the way, starts in like a month. I feel
like the p g A Tour is a lot like
Major League Baseball, right, and stick with me for a second, Okay, Dan,
It's that Major League Baseball. The numbers in the individual
markets are ridiculous, right, Like they they do. They do
great numbers. They really rate well, and they they draw well.
I mean people point out that the Dodgers, uh, you

(28:29):
can't see him in many parts of Los Angeles. They
are going to draw over four million people. And by
the way, when you're good and people want to see
your see your games, that's why they put you on
a channel. That's it makes you want to say, hey,
you you end up getting Time Warner with like Time Winner,
right or what is it, uh whatever, spectrum whatever, like
I got I want to watch the Dodgers. I gotta
get specum that's the it's designed to be that way.

(28:52):
But the point is that while baseball's national numbers aren't good,
it's hard for us to talk major League Baseball nationally
on radio low. Really they're outstanding. Golf is similar in
that golfs numbers nationally Masters down, Open down, British Open down,
like those numbers are bad. They're just not good. They've
never They're not going to ever get to that level

(29:13):
of Tiger unless Tiger gets back in it. That said,
the individual tournaments make a ton of money and they're
still within their scope, within their you know, their wildly popular.
Is that fair? Yeah? Yeah, if the if there is
a sponsor that is willing and not a lot, but
but some of the sponsors are regional. You know, you've

(29:34):
got the FedEx stop in Memphis every single year the
week before the US Open. That's going to continue to
be there. If you have a sponsor that's willing to
put on the event and we of course go down
to Tory Pines and the Farmer's Insurance Open and have
a great time. If you have a sponsor that's willing
to back that community and back that tournament, they're gonna
hold the tournament whether you like it or don't like it,
or don't like the TV ratings, or or Tiger Woods

(29:55):
and Rory McElroy and Jordan's speed aren't there. If they
can make money and and do some good with it,
they're going to do it. And that's why you Yeah,
I think it's really really interesting that they're continue to
to to expand. Uh, while the national numbers are not great.
That's Dan fire. You know that? Do you guys? See
this article on Dwight Howard. I saw just the headline.

(30:16):
I didn't dive into it. Um, it's important to note
that Lee Jenkins is going to join us a little
bit later on in the show. I read this article.
I got up. I was up super early this morning. UM,
and it's it's kind of cool when you get up
on the West Coast it's super early and you're like,
all right, I can't go back to sleep. Is there
something really good to read? And when I see it's
Lee Jenkins from Sports Illustrated writing an article, an in

(30:39):
depth article on a player, I automatically know he got
great access and it's usually really interesting. Um. It kind
of goes into like just a quick quick question fire.
You know you probably know the answer to this. Where
who does Dwight Howard play for Hornets? Yeah? I actually
forgot this morning. I forgo. I forgot this morning cause

(31:04):
I was like, oh, Atlantic still in Atlanta. I forgot
that they for a second, I forgot that they traded
him to the Charlotte Hornets. Right, And and this is
written from perspective of Dwight Howard. And he's sitting in
his apartment in Buckhead in Atlanta. And so immediately I
was like, oh, well, he's back in Atlanta. And then
I was like, wait a second, no, wait, where where's

(31:25):
he played out? That's right, he plays in Charlotte. Like
they gave him away after just one year with his
hometown Hawks gave him away. I'll take you through the
kind of the bullet points. He talks about his rookie year.
He's an eighteen year old virgin, and he talked to

(31:45):
them about the time God spoke to him in the bathroom.
Steve Francis and Tote Batilla, Tita h invited the invited
him out to a club once never again for fear
they corrupt him. That's it. We're not letting you go
out anymore. Howard's first all Star Weekend two thousand five
players in Denver Hotel. UH compared party imentations. We know
you are about to do nothing except read your Bible.

(32:08):
And of course he started going out. And now he
has five kids, five different women, none of them who
he's with, and of course he owes them massive amounts
of child support. Like my takeaway for Dwight Howard is
he's he's basically the poster child for why guys should
go to college. We we do. We talk in circles

(32:29):
all the time, and like, look, I respect j Billis.
I think he's He's always been really good as a
basketball analyist. He just is I'm I'm, I'm I take
and he has a perspective to which he thinks guys
should get paid. And he also believes that guy shouldn't
be people shouldn't be forced to go to college. I
think it's ludicrous. There has to be a bridge between

(32:49):
AU and high school basketball and the NBA, because that's
that's a man's world there, and you're just not ready
for it. And here's the guy, Yes, has Lebron James
managed to steer clear of trouble and he's married to
his high school sweetheart, Like sure, uh. And he surrounds
himself with his friends and they've all gotten to have
like legitimate jobs, and they, you know, the champions of business.

(33:12):
But like that's the exception. That's the exception. On the
other spectrum, you have Robert Swift. You Robert Swift. He's
from Bakersfield, He's the one who's drafted by the SuperSonics,
and you know then he was bankrupt and and had
all these guns and drugs and tattoos and whatever. Like
that's the other side of it. And what falls in

(33:33):
the middle is guys like Dwight Howard who financially and
professionally are pretty successful. But it's like the arrested development.
You need that space in between. He comes from a
two parent home, he was super religious, went to a
small private high school. They like they tried to protect
him from the rest of the real world. But you

(33:54):
can't go from zero to a hundred, right, you gotta
have kind of the ramp up. And that's what colleges like.
The college thing works, I swear to god it works.
It works in basketball because you learn how to become
a teammate. You learn about sacrificing, you learn about playing
team defense and team offense, and no, it's not a
perfect snapshot of what you're gonna look like in the NBA,

(34:16):
but you get better and you're working with coaches who
have worked with eighteen and two year olds for their
entire professional lives. What we do is we look at
a kid and we're like, oh, he's got water wings on.
I'll bet he's a great swimmer, and then we taken
we throw him in the deep end. Star aths are
basketball players are much like did you know that not

(34:38):
every dog can swim? You guys? I didn't know this.
My dog at first could not. We actually had to
kind of teach my dog to swim because we have
a pool now. But we just make this assumption that
they all swim, and sometimes they do, but they don't
swim as well as they could. They swim for survival anyway,
and just get to the side of the pool where

(34:59):
in terms of life happiness, being a well rounded individual,
like dude, stop with the one and done and none
and done, go to college, enjoy yourself, be a pre adult,
have some responsibilities, but not all the responsibilities. We'll talk
with Lee Jenkins about where Dwight Howard's been and what's

(35:20):
possible for him even remaining in the future. But up next,
what are the chances a former Heisman Trophy winner makes
his return to the NFL. I'll tell you next what
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(35:43):
tell you why Jerry Jones is defending Zeke Elliott. The
Buddycop movie going on in uh in Dallas upcoming, But
first let's get to a game shame. This is Game
Time Tide. I'm a Doug Gottlieb show. Bye. What do

(36:05):
you got for me? Buddy? Today? We have got dougances.
What are the chances? Throwing out some numbers there, what
are the chances? John Ramos spoke to an A list
celebrity over the weekend. That'd be a percent. I'm sure
you know he's coaching in the valley. He's coaching soccer.
Some somebody's kid is on his soccer team. Who who
did you talk to this weekend? John Ramos, Emi Stone

(36:27):
and Steve Carrell? All right, when did you talk to
Amiston and Steve Crew Saturday night at the Battle of
the Sex's Green Carpet, Green Carpet m emistone better or
worse looking in person? She's very attractive, very attracting person
Like you were struck by her. I was. I was
telling that Ryan and Dan that I was like staring
at her and I was really close, like I could

(36:48):
touch her. But not as attractive as who's aunt? No, no, no, no,
not just tracked as my wife? That is? Is she
on the list? Is he on the list? List the list?
Ebi Stone, I can't comment on that right now. That's yes,
Steve Krill better looking in person? Yeah, he's a good
looking very Is he on the list? Ramas, I can't

(37:09):
comment on that. I who else is receiving votes on
that top twenty five of John's No, there are just
three two and old teams in the NFC doug and
the Detroit Lions are one of them. Following their win
against the Giants last night. I know that the Buccaneers one,
but they're not two and oh but what are the
chances the Lions make a return appearance to the playoffs

(37:30):
after they're strong start um, I think the chances are
pretty good. I'm gonna say seventy five cent chance. Uh.
One reason is I'm really cautious about about the Minnesota
Vikings without Sam Bradford. I just I feel like we
all know the answer that his knee is just not
right right, Like he plays one game and all of

(37:51):
a sudden it's swoll up so much he can't play
and he's limping, and then the bear stinks. Like there's
wins that can be had in division, out of division,
they got some matchups. I'll say, I'm I'll go sixty chance.
They were close to making the playoffs last year. They
didn't make the playoffs last year. Remember they lost the
wild card? Yeah, yep, they they backed in kind of,

(38:13):
but they were They didn't beat any of They didn't
beat any of the good teams. You're right, my bad.
Free agent quarterback Robert Griffin the third one on the
offensive today, refuting comments made by former teammates Santana Moss
that Griffin was gloating when Washington fired Mike Shanahan. So
after his little twitter tirade today, what are the chances
r G three placed in the NFL? Again? Oh? I

(38:34):
think very limited? Um chance, Some of it is real.
Some of it is reputation. Plus he's got a bad knee.
Plus he's not a good fit for a lot of systems. Uh,
he's just not the consummate backup quarterback. Yeah. I had
some interesting takes on the Santana Moss comments, saying that

(38:54):
he felt betrayed, but also then went into more on
his time in Washington and being in a situation where
he was never wanted at least he felt there in
the first place. With a seventeen home runs tonight, a
new record of Major League Baseball will be set for
Homer's in a season. Now, it could happen sometime this week,
may not be tonight, Doug, but the fact is a
new record is going to be set. So what are
the chances that this trend actually continues and more home

(39:17):
runs are even hit next season? Because players are changing
the game? Baseball has changed. Okay, uht of the time
in baseball this year, no one other than the catcher,
the pitcher, or the hit or have anything to do
with the play. Because you strike out, you walk, or

(39:37):
you hit a home run like that's baseball, and analytics
tell you should play more that way because it's harder
to put together three, four or five hits and is
to have one hit the ball go out of the park.
This is how baseball will be played in the near future.
That was the last season at home runs that's third
all time, so heading into the season that was the
second most. And we're trending upwards and it's likely to continue.

(40:00):
According to Doug, Okay, final one here, Um, I gotta
kick out of this one. What are the chances Doug
that New Knicks forward Michael Beasley is correct in saying
that the New York Knicks can be a five or
six seed in the East if everything goes right, Because
he said as much today the Knicks being a five
or six seed in the East, What are the chances,

(40:21):
I'd say, like chance, I mean honestly chance. Look, I
don't think they're terrible. Uh but like okay, so are
they gonna leap frog the Pistons who had a bad
season last year didn't make the playoffs, the heat who
made it to five, but that was without a lot
of talent that were injured. They should be better this year.
Celtics better, Calves still right there, Raptors, Wizards. I think

(40:44):
the Hawks drop out of the playoffs. Bucks will still
be good Pacers Bulls. It's not crazy talk though, but again,
the Sixers are gonna come on strong. You would think
this year it's not crazy, but it's not likely. This
is game time on The Dug Gottlieb Show. You know,
you know we've we've gotten to this point to where

(41:05):
buddy cop movies are now more satire, right that more
we make fun of buddy cop movies, But buddycott movies
existed because there is something there's something real to good
cop bad cop. And by my estimation, Jerry Jones is
the guy who always wants to play good cop. Why
is he doing it with Dak I'll explain next in
The Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. What Up? It's

(41:30):
the Duck Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio coming to you
live and direct from the City of Angels. So Dallas
Cowboys are interesting, right Uh. They beat the Giants and
then they lose to the Broncos. And my perspective on

(41:51):
my perspective on the Cowboys is that this is where
it gets really really interesting. Right. Who you are is
more about how you react to adversity than how you
react to success. Don't get me wrong. Reacting to success
is hard. It just is people tell you're great at something,
and it's it's a it's a hard thing to to

(42:13):
How do I even respond and how do I continue
to keep being great? But when people have told you
you're great at something and then all of a sudden
you're not, well, that's hard too, isn't it. Isn't that
like doubly difficult? Uh? Now, look for the Cowboys, they run,
they're benefiting from the fact that they're taking on the

(42:35):
Arizona Cardinals. On the other hand, that's the Cardinals home opener,
and the Cardinals squeaked one out against the hapless, hopeless
Indianapolis Colts. But they're one and one, so there's still
very much feeling at least decent about themselves. And if
there's a strength to the Cardinals, you would think it's
on the defensive side of the ball, wouldn't you. But
when everybody's talking about with the Dallas Cowboys is Ezekiel Elliott,

(42:59):
a guy who obviously has been in the news a
bunch for off the field things more than on the
field things. On the field, all anybody has told him
is you're great. You're great, You're the best. We love you.
Keep doing what you're doing, be you. You just kind
of gotta grow and mature off the football field. Here's
a dominant player last year as just a rookie, rushing

(43:21):
for over sixteen hundred yards in the NFL on a
team that won thirteen games and could have won fourteen
if they would have played everybody. But after a hundred
and four yards on twenty four carries averaging four point
three yards to carry and five catches for thirty six
yards in their home opening win against the New York Giants,
the Denver Broncos were able to do something no one

(43:43):
else was able to do. Nine carries eight yards point
nine yards a carry, that's what Zeke did. He did
have four catches for fourteen yards, averaging just three point
five yards that catch. They shut down Ezekie Elliott, and
they exposed Dak Prescott. And by my estimation, the reason

(44:07):
Dak was pitching a fit right, the reason he was
pouting during the two interception which he made no effort,
no effort to play defense and to be part of
a unit that would turn around and stop the Denver Broncos,
the whole reason it was because he was mifted. His quarterback.

(44:30):
Here's his coach Jason Garrett. One of the things that
we preached to our team on both sides of the ball,
when there's a turnover, everybody's involved, for an offensive player
to become a defensive player on a fumble or an interception.
And you know, Zeke is one of the most natural
competitors I've ever been around. He loves to play, he
loves to practice. I think we've seen that through his
first year playing, and those two players were not indicative

(44:51):
of the kind of competitor that he was, and we
have to get that addressed. Got to get that addressed
as soon as possible. Um. Here's Jerry Jones on his
radio show earlier's day in regards to Zeke. I think
if you look at everybody's reaction to that interception, several
Dallas Cowboy players on that interception, you saw what would

(45:14):
not be the case in a closely contested ball game.
I think you can point to Zeke, but you really
have to look at the general effort to chase that
ball down by most of the people that were on
the field. Dak gave it everything he had to try
to contain that interception, but still you look at it
across the board, you'll see you need more effort than

(45:35):
what you see. All Right, that's a Sean and r
J Show with Jerry Jones in Dallas, Doug Gottlib show
here Fox Sports Radio. So Jerry Jones is not totally
excusing it. He's using the old well everybody was doing it.
We're not talking about it everybody. We're talking about Dak
who's young, strong, fast, If anything like Dak Prescott should

(45:59):
not be chasing anybody down. He's a quarterback. Can't get
the quarterback hurt as opposed a running back who was
built like a bull and is super fast and super strong.
You can go pull the guy down. It wasn't even
making a business decision getting in the way and then
getting out of the way. He just made the decision
to give zero effort. A look, what you've seen on

(46:21):
tape is that's what happens in film rooms across the
country on Monday and Tuesday. I told the story earlier today.
Lowest point of my basketball career in college my junior year.
You guys know, I led the country and assist my
junior year. Second my senior year, right, it was finished
my career seventh all time and assist for my junior year.
I actually did so with the fewest amount of minutes

(46:44):
per game of any year in my career. And so,
like I like to tell people, like, not only do
I leave the country and assist, but if you pro
rate it, I ever was more assist per minute than
anybody who's ever led the country and assist ever. I
was like nine assisted game, but I only played twenty
six minutes a game because I went through an eight
game stretch where I was barely playing. I was buried

(47:06):
in the doghouse with a boat, and I remember to
this day. Um, we played Southeast Missouri State SEEM and
it was like a I'm gonna say it was a
like a December eighteenth type game where nobody's on campus, right,

(47:28):
You're just kind of playing out the string until everybody
goes home for for Christmas break. We had games coming up.
I'm gonna say it was like the third teen. We
had games coming up where we played at Craighton, played
at un l V, and then we went on Christmas
break we played SEMO and I was, you know here,
I was really the only true point guard in the
team and I'm playing like eight minutes and yeah, I

(47:51):
was pouting. Yeah, I was pissed, and by my estimation,
the reason the game, the only reason the game was closest,
because like, you take the point guard the team and
they're gonna kind of struggle. So we're up, I don't know,
six eight points late, our best players get a guy
named Mador and Peterson remarkably enough the same name. Third
ultimately in scordom stay. He jumps up and knocks down
at three, and that's like the dagger that put away Simo.

(48:14):
So the next day we come in for film and
instead of watching what we did right, instead of watching
what we did wrong, the tape is already queued up
to like three minutes to go in the game, up eight,
up eight points, and Adrian Peterson's made three point shots.
Tape stops, and there's four laser pointers. You guys know

(48:37):
those laser pointers. They don't even know if they still
use those right four laser pointers, and they're all circling
one guy on the bench who's not standing up. Who
is that? Who would that guy be? Would be Doug Gotli,
That would be Dug Everyone else was feeling great about
their teammates success, except for me, because I was so

(48:57):
wrapped up in my own lack of success. I was pouting, pouting,
and I think that's what Zeke was doing. It's pouting
right first time in his career when she's held under
ten yards. They're getting embarrassed on the road. His quarterback,
his buddy, his fellows, sophomore in the National Football League,

(49:20):
isn't playing well. Can't get him the ball, can't get
the offense moving, and he's pouting, and then he quits
and the Cowboys are playing good cop, bad cop. Jerry
Jones is always good cop, right. Jerry Jones is the
grandma when you come home to come here, Booby, give me,
give me a kiss, give me a hug. Here's a cookie.

(49:42):
It's gonna be okay. You do that when you have
kids at home. Ramos knows this. Ramos is the always
bad cops. Wife's good cop. I'm sure. Look, Romo's got
tough and tough look on his face. Like I had
this about my son. I was just on the phone
my son's baseball coach, like I went to pick him
up from club baseball yesterday. The coach is talking about
not talking when he's talking, being a little more mature,
my son. He's the youngest guy in this travel team.

(50:05):
And so we get back and he's, you know, it's
not fun, Like, well, it's not fun because you're talking
when you're not supposed to be talking. You get in trouble. Ye,
not not supposed to be fun when you do that,
when you don't listen. So I was the I was
the mean. I was mean, Dad, I was I was
a bad cop. My wife comes in, gives him a hug.
Do we are we sure we wanted to play this? Like, yeah,
she was a good cop? Yes, right. So as these

(50:30):
things continue to sort of happen with Ezekiel Elliott, you
could say that there's like a pattern of behavior there,
like do you think that now that it's something that
was on the field not just an off the field thing?
Was Zeke that they finally need to sort of take
a harder stance on this to try and send them
send a message to him, because with with him, it
just it's sort of continues to be like one thing

(50:52):
after another after another, And I feel exact he was
really I mean, like, look, he was great in week one,
he had no problems with right, no exact, but after
another after there's some space in it this but you
go ahead, but just more. I mean, it's been one
thing after another after another off the field, but on
the field it was okay, Zeke's ready to go. And
so maybe that's why they've always kind of taken a

(51:14):
softer stance. But now that this is the one time
that they can be like, hey, you didn't get done
on the field, is this now when they can step
in and really try to send a message. So I don't,
I don't know. I like, look, I guess the only
way we find out is the next time there's the interception.
If he's booking it back to make the tackle, then
the message has been received, right, Like this is on
This is Jason Garrett. This is his job, whether he

(51:35):
disciplines him, where he goes to his position coach, whether
he talks to other running backs in the running back room,
he talked to some of the veteran leaders on the team,
Like I think it's fair to say that Ezekiellett this
is usually these are usually things that we don't see.
But because he's Zeki Elliott, the camera is he's got
his own ISO camera at all times. And by the way,

(51:59):
credit goes to the Fox director who chose to go
to that shot after the interception, right, Like they have
all kinds of other shots they have, you know, I
don't know, cameras on during a game. There's all kinds
of different reaction shots they could go to. They happen
to pick out that shot which everybody saw, so everybody
reacts to it. And isn't that sort of the interesting

(52:21):
situation that we see with the Cowboys specifically you talk
about like some of the veterans in the locker room,
as you mentioned, you know, have they sent him the message?
Will you look at the veterans in that locker room like, Okay,
Jason Witten absolutely, Then what on the defensive side of
the ball, shun Lee? You know, when we were up
at when we were up at Cowboys camp, one of
the things that I talked to a couple of the

(52:42):
veteran Cowboys about was they said, it's a really young
locker room matter we talking like, and look, des has
really matured. But des Is is kind of like a
rock star, Like he's not he's not a This is
actually in many ways this My son Hayes is a uh,
he's a really fun kid. I mean he's a really

(53:05):
fun kid. But I tell his teachers all the time.
I tell his coaches like, listen, you'll love having my son.
And he wants to be a leader, but not really
a leader, you know, like if the kids are jacking
around like he's jacking around, kids are eating, sticking five
pieces of gum in their mouth like he's sticking five
pieces of the guming mount. He's not the one like, hey, Bellas,
let's let's get this thing straight like he just does.

(53:25):
He doesn't doesn't have that built within him and the
guys that they do, like, look, Dak Prescott is a
natural leader, but he's still in his second year out
of college. Jason Witten is not really a tight end,
is not really a leader. He's just kind of the
old wildly vet. And so this is a really really
young locker room, the leadership especially, and that's what young

(53:48):
teams play like. Young teams sometimes play well when they're
not supposed to play well, and when things go poorly,
they can snowball because they'll pout. And that's exactly what
happened here. What Kevin Durant really admit to earlier today,
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will uh play for you what he said at a
tech conference in northern California in mere moments. But let's

(55:38):
let's let's rehash and recap exactly how we got here. Okay,
over the weekend. Over the weekend, Kevin Rant's Twitter account
was found to be active, which he was responding to
uh to people's questions and uh somebody named at Cole
cash Well says at k D Tree five that's his

(55:58):
Twitter handle. Man, are like the hell out of you,
But give me one legitimate reason for leaving? Okay, see
other than getting a championship. Kevin Durant from his own
Twitter account, He didn't like the organization or playing for
Billy Donovan. His roster wasn't that good. It was just
him and Russ. He goes on, imagine taking russ Off
that team, see how bad they were. KAD can't win

(56:20):
a championship with those Cats. Now there's there's a bunch
of discussion points from it. And I actually credit Kevin
Durant for not doing the I was hacked, not saying
somebody else had his phone. But what appears to have happened,

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and I guess this happens more than we think, is
he had a burner Twitter account where he would engage
with fans, only they didn't know it was actually Kevin Durant, right,
they didn't know was the real KD. But why would
he respond? Like what is the point? And then you
kind of thinking he has the key cupcake shoes, the

(57:01):
KD cupcake shoes. Of course she was called Cupcake and
that was an instagram that was put out by Russell
Westbrook and the rest of the Oklahoma City fans. They
taunted him with cupcake and cupcakes when they played the
Warriors earlier this year. Then you have his new isshoes.
Those same k DS were made in the NBA Finals

(57:22):
specials And on the bottom of it it has things
that somebody believes KD was called. And then it has
all of his stat lines in the NBA Finals on them.
You couple those with responding to people on Twitter and
on Instagram, and you start to say, like, why is
he the why is he doing this? And the only

(57:45):
logical explanation is like, dude is listening to all the chatter,
doesn't like it, trying to reset the narrative and tell
his side of the story. And you'd only do that
if you were insecure, like you don't have to don't
have to engage. I'll credit Seth Davis like I've gotten.
I've gotten crap for Twitter for years and occasionally over

(58:09):
engaged and you get into it, he said. She said whatever,
and I've I've never if I had never cursed anybody,
never really let anybody have it, have it like you
could let somebody have it. But it's hard, and so
Seth Davis is like dude, just he calls the squashing ants,
press mute. They can tweet away at you. You won't
ever see it. You just muted them. It becomes like

(58:31):
the mediment whatever they're screaming at you and you can't
hearrow word. It's awesome. But Katie and said, chooses to engage.
I said this yesterday and I said this on cowherd,
and it strikes me as as more and more accurate
the more I think about it. UM Rich. Many rich

(58:51):
people are in fact extremely frugal, and I think some
of them believe there's a correlation between not spending money,
getting things for free, using coupons, finding discounts, and how
they got to be rich to begin with, like, yeah,
I'm rich, and it's because I know how to say. Now,
there's some of that, but simply saving money and getting

(59:15):
things for free is not what made them, not what
made them rich or wealthy to begin with. Comedians can
be very very dark in real life, and a lot
of them think, well, listen, my pain, my sorrow, my anger,
that's where I generate my comedy from. Um I I

(59:38):
think those are two separate and distinct things. I think actually,
some of that comedy comes you make fun of other people,
and some of that is where the anger comes from.
You make fun of situations, and some of that is.
But the actual comedic timing is comedic timing. The actual
lines come from an ability to put something down on

(01:00:01):
paper and then to act it out and understand the
timing of which you need to execute. UM A seven
minutes set A fifteen minutes set or even a stand
up show of your own. Comedians think that their comedy
comes from this dark place, and really there's actually a
separation between the two. And I think a lot of

(01:00:23):
successful people are wildly insecure, and they think that's what
creates this enemy that motivates them to be great. Like
Kevin Durants, a great basketball player. He's been a great
basketball player and on the biggest stage, he performed incredibly
well under a ton of pressure, some of which he
put on himself, some of which others put on him.

(01:00:45):
And he thinks that well, because of that pressure, because
of all the naysayers, that's why I played well. But
is it really right? He had pressure on himself, put
pressure on himself in Game six last year Locama City
and didn't play well. Right. If anything, there was less
pressure on him in reality because he had other guys

(01:01:06):
to pick him up if he didn't play well. But
there's a lot of successful people that believe that insecurity
is what they build their success upon, and so they
they have more and more. They allow that insecurity to
fester and to continue. They don't want to put it
and put it away, Like hey, KD, did you made it.

(01:01:28):
You made it out of nothing, single parent home, to
make it to Texas, to being the number two pick,
to raising up a franchise, to get the NBA Finals
with the Thunder, to being the best player in the
World championship team, the best player on an Olympic gold
medal winning team, to winning an NBA Championship, winning a
Finals MVP, plus you have a regular season m VP. Like, dude,

(01:01:51):
you've made it. You don't have to have any sort
of but he has that natural insecurity. That's why he
has to defend his decision. But at least he owned
it earlier today. I do have other Instagram account, but
that's just for my friends and family, so I wouldn't
say I was using that to clap back at anybody.
But I use Twitter two engage with the fans. I

(01:02:14):
think it's a great way to engage with, you know,
basketball fans. But I happened to take it a little
too far, and that's what happened sometimes when I get
into these basketball debates or you know, what I really
love is just to play basketball. I went a little
too far. And I don't regret clapping back at anybody
or talking to my fans on Twitter. I do regret

(01:02:35):
um using my former coach's name and the former organization
that I played for. That was childish, that was idiotic,
all those type of words. I regret doing that, and
I apologize to him for doing that. But um, I
don't think I'll ever stopped engaging with my fans. I
think they, you know, really enjoyed now. I think it's
a good way to connect us all. But um, I

(01:02:55):
was I was scaled back a little bit right now
and just focus on playing basketball. So I want to
move on from that. It was tough to deal with yesterday.
I was really upset with myself, but I definitely want
to move on and keep playing basketball. So but I
still want to interact with my fans as will. Yeah. Look,
I'm mad, I'm I'm sorry that I I said Billy
Donovan's name, but I'm not really mad that you now
know the real reason that I left Oklahoma City. I

(01:03:18):
didn't like the coach, I wasn't that down with the organization,
and the team didn't have enough pieces outside of Russell Westbrook. Hey,
by the way, yesterday and today we now know that
Russell Westbrook was not the reason he left Oklahoma City.
That was actually the reason for why to stay in
Oklahoma City. Getting the truth out, however it gets out

(01:03:38):
now or bad it may look in the short term
and long term, it makes KD feel better about it now.
At least people know. So I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. Yeah, sorry,
not sorry, That's what it is. Sorry, not sorry, Right,

(01:04:00):
I'm sorry I used Billy Donovan his name. He didn't
say I'm sorry that I said Billy Donovan was the
reason I left. He didn't say that, I'm sorry that
I said that that KD can't win a championship with
those cats talking in third person while thinking he was
using a burner Twitter account. He didn't say that. He's like,
it went a little too far. You mean, by telling

(01:04:24):
the truth true sets Kevin Durant free. I think he's
gonna be free as a bird. I think this is
a reasonable logical reason. And anyone in Oklahoma City who
can sit there and be mad like And he didn't
say anything about where he lived, He didn't say anything
about the town. He's just like, look, didn't like the
organization that much. Wasn't that down with Billy Donovan. He

(01:04:47):
wasn't my guy. And I don't think that I was.
Now if you're a former teammate, you might be ticked. Hey,
I thought we were his boys. I thought we were
good enough. But I think those of us who can
look at that right tell me who that roster you
have to have in order to win a championship. Uh,

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it's an off day in the National Football League, Doug

(01:05:34):
for most, but thinks surely on on Twitter. As you
mentioned with Kevin Durant, there's another Twitter drama going on
involving free agent quarterback Robert Griffin the third. And it
all started yesterday with r G three's former teammate with
the Redskins, Santana Moss, saying this, I'm the fan in Washington,
d C. From two demand Mike Canahan and RG is

(01:05:55):
not and before you know it. You know RG is
not playing. But when thing went about, we hear that
Mike Shanahan not coming back the next year. Then we
hear you know, the quarterback like hey, like basically saying that, hey,
you know you got me out of here, not not
playing last year. That then that's what happened. You get fired.
So that was Santana Moss yesterday today. Robert Griffin the

(01:06:16):
Third has responded on Twitter with a number of tweets
saying that Santana Moss betrayed him and that that he's
been lied on for years. R G three also mentioned
when it came to Mike Shanahan quote next year, coach
wants out, saying he wants out, says he never wanted
me as his quarterback and I get blamed. Come on, man.
R G three not a happy camper. Green Bay Packers

(01:06:38):
wide receiver Jordy Nelson reportedly fifty fifty to play against
the Bengals on Sunday, according to ESPN, because of a
quad injury. The Panthers placed tenant Greg Olson on injured reserve.
That is, with a broken foot, Panthers could bring him
back after eight weeks. Same thing for the Browns. And
Corey Coleman, the wide receiver placed on ire because of
a broken hand, and Doug This just coming down. The

(01:06:58):
Dolphins have suspend linebacker Lawrence Timmins indefinitely. He went a
wall on Saturday night before their game in Los Angeles
against the Chargers. He reportedly was found at l a
X the next morning trying to board a flight to
Pennsylvania so he could be with family members, wanting to
be with his newborn child. But Lawrence Timmins has been
suspended and definitely by the Miami Dolphins. That was a

(01:07:19):
weird story, right, he went a wall. They actually asked
the cops because they couldn't find him. Turns out he
was trying to fly home. Remember he signed a two year,
ten million dollar deals a life for Pittsburgh Steeler. That
just can't fairly function outside of the world of Pittsburgh.
Um uh boy, this is There's a lot of tweets
here from Robert Griffin Santana moss I treat you like

(01:07:40):
a brother. Always had your back to openly lie about
me as betrayal. Betrayal been lied on a lot over
the years, but an impossible situation with a coach you
never wanted me, made players like Santana Moss a believer
through hard work, film study, showing up early, leaving late,
putting an extra hours, staying at practice, getting extra work in.

(01:08:00):
We won division that year, and next year coach wants out,
he wants out, says he never wanted me as his quarterback,
and I get blamed. Come on, man, I've always been
a good soldier. Uh. Some so desperately want me to
fit this negative narrative that has been pushed about me.
But I don't fit it, never have, never will proved it.

(01:08:21):
In Cleveland, voted, voted captain, came back to play for
my teammates just to help us win one game with
a broken shoulder, stopped a lot. I mean, this is
one of the all time great downfalls right in the
history of the NFL. Rookie of the offensive, rookie of
the Year in the NFL goes to the playoffs and

(01:08:41):
then tears re tears and a c L in the playoffs,
only to never be able to kind of recapture the
glory of his career. I'll say this, I would agree
that that Shanahan didn't want him, But Kyle Shanahan did
put in an offense to which they felt like he
could work in early in his career, and when they
try to have him evolved into a into a pro quarterback,

(01:09:02):
he couldn't do it. Ah, But I do wonder if
Santana Moss there's not more truth to it than than
fiction to it in terms of Robert Griffin going like, yeah,
Shanahan's out. Sorry, I'm not see what happens that that

(01:09:24):
that sounds actually totally believable. Kevin Clark wrote this article.
Whether was this from I saw this on Twitter? It's
from The Ringer, right, Kevin Clark writes for The Ringer,
which is Bill Simmonsit and the title of it is
perfect how football stopped being fun? He starts with the

(01:09:47):
we are living in the golden Age of failed completions,
a statistic as grim as it sounds, tracked by football outsiders.
Failed completions occur when a team doesn't get of the
yards it needs to get the down on second down,
on third or fourth down. The stat goes back to
nine and last season Joe Flacco has set the record

(01:10:08):
with a hundred at forty four. Nothing encapsulates this era
of football as well as failed completion allegedly a success
but ultimately oblique disappointment. In the past five years of
the NFL, offenses have reached unprecedented levels of scoring, quarterbacks
have become more accurate than ever, turnovers have plummeted, and
yet it's not fun. If you simply reads the statistical markers,

(01:10:33):
it would seem that every offense was as exciting as
the pub scene from inglorious bastards, Sacks and interceptions at
all time lows last year. But that just means that
quarterbacks are getting rid of the ball, quicker operating for shorter,
safer targets, and we have reached the most frustrating era
in football history. Everything is fine, and it doesn't look good.
Through two weeks. Scoring is down two point four points

(01:10:54):
a game. That's That isn't a statistical argument. This is
about aesthetics, the critical man. So fans agree the game
is ugly. It's ugly, as listed in the thirteen and
nine Bengals Texans game. It goes on Chris Simms with
a great quote. If you show me a team with
a great completion percentage, I automatically think your offense probably sucks.

(01:11:15):
And it's it's interesting because first I don't know how
many people watch whole NFL games, but last night's game
because it's the only game on. I watched Sunday night's
game because the only game on. I watched Thursday night
game because it's the only game on I watched Sunday.
I usually watch on red Zone and then have another
TV on the regular and red zone you can't tell

(01:11:38):
as much because teams are around the goal line. But
but one of the logical reasons behind people pick in
Atlanta was they're like, oh, that place is gonna be
so hype, so on fire. Did you watch the Atlanta
Green Bay game? It was like a library in there.
Part of it is the building is really big, but
part of it is football. NFL football and be super

(01:12:00):
super boring. Now, like, yeah, you run the ball, but
he also these very short passing routes. I mean, even
the New England Patriots style is crazy crazy, boring, crazy boring,
dank and dunk and matriculate the ball down the field.
Do you know what this reminds me of? It reminds

(01:12:22):
me of Major League Baseball. Dan Buyer was talking about
this earlier. Um, Dan, what was the statu you're using
on baseball? With the number of home runs being up
this year. Yeah, with tonight's If seventeen home runs are
hit tonight, that would set a new record for the
most home runs hit in a season. And the other
stat that I put was last year is actually now

(01:12:44):
third where this was a stat duck that I had
never heard before because passed it, but heading into this
year was actually at the second most home runs. So
now two out of the three years where the most
home runs were hit were in seventeen. But then I
could set the record. Yeah, look, I think it's fascinating
because what's happened is major league teams and their organizations.

(01:13:07):
They've they've figured out the analytics to it, much like
they figured out NBA basketball, and many times is not
a great watch, right high ball screen drive kicks, shoot
at three? Highball screen drive kicks, shoot at three. It
ain't a great watch. And this is the analytics field,
and this the same goal is at the NFL. Why

(01:13:29):
would you run the football when it takes years off
your running backs life? They haven't changed the rules at all.
Within the tackles, all the rules are set up so
you can't touch the quarterback below the knee, above the neck,
can't touch the wide receiver after five yards, and they
allow for pick plays with the exception of the Green
Bay Packers, and they run one against the Atlanta Falcons.

(01:13:52):
Like everything is telling you, everything is telling you to
throw the football and to be as accurate as possible
and just have short short, dink and dunk, matriculate the
ball down the field and end up with a field goal.
I mean, NFL games are boring. We don't watch them
because they're super exciting right about now. We watched them

(01:14:12):
because we are fantasy game. Our fantasy team depends upon it,
and we bet on the games. That's it. But NFL
is not the only one that's boring. Baseball is boring,
in basketball is boring, and they're boring because the sports
are getting smarter. They understand how to protect their players,
how to score more points, and how to do so
more often based upon the rules and based upon the

(01:14:35):
rules of the game. Let me really interesting to see
how each individual sport adjust to make sports more watchable.
Clay Travis thinks Matt Stafford is gonna be a Super
Bowl champion for his careers. Up. I'll tell you if
I agree. Next, But first, speaking of fantasy football, were
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Fox Sports Radio. I consume a lot of Fox Sports Radio.
I admit that I do, and I like it. There's

(01:16:23):
different kind of vibes to it. Right Clay Travis, I
kicked the coverage, kicks it off on Serious x M.
You get First Things First, which is Chris Carter, Jenna
Wolfe and Nick Wright. Uh. Then you also get the
Dan Patrick Show. You get Undisputed which is Skip Bayliss
and Shannon Sharp enjoy Taylor's TV show. Then you get

(01:16:46):
Called Cowherd Rich Eyes in into My show for the
first two hours on satellite, all three hours on our
affiliates and on the I Heart app. And then of
course you have the Gorman Boys, JT the Brick, Ben Mueller,
Jason Smith. Great lineup. I listened to him. I think
I've I've heard just about everybody's show in the last

(01:17:06):
couple of weeks, sometimes up earlier, driving late at night.
That's why we choose to bring back the best sound
from the last and now. Blake Travis, reacting to Monday
Night Football, had this to say about Matt Stafford. I
think Matt Stafford is going to win a Super Bowl
before his career is over in Detroit. That may be

(01:17:28):
one of the boldest predictions I've ever made, given the
historical success or lack thereof, of the Detroit Lions. But
I think Matthew Stafford. They got him into a new
multi year deal. He's being paid well, obviously, but not
so much that it's like, oh my god, they've hamstrung
the entire franchise. They withstood the retirement of Calvin Johnson
and actually got better. Uh. They still don't have a

(01:17:51):
great running game, and they've never had necessarily a great
running game, but they're a lot better than they have
been in the past. And I think that Matthew Stafford
is a really good quarterback, top ten caliber quarterback in
the NFL. Um Look, I think he may be a
top ten quarterback in the NFL. And I think they
signed to a contract that they had to and he'll

(01:18:12):
be their guy. But the idea that that he will
win a super Bowl. You know how hard doesn't win
a super Bowl, how unlikely it is if they want
a super Bowl, it would be like when the Saints
want a super Bowl. Now, the Saints did it, and
they did it with Sean Payton and Drew Brees, and
they had a tremendous run. I just I don't feel
like Detroit is even close to being there yet. Let's

(01:18:33):
get to the point to which they compete and beat
the best teams in the league, something they've struggled with.
He made the play, made the playoffs last year, but
they did so without beating the elite teams in the NFL.
Without Now is this sket your schedule gets more difficult?
Can you can you beat the Packers? Um? So, Look,
my my take even when he signed the deal was

(01:18:54):
it wasn't crazy money. If you're in the neighborhood of
a top ten, top twelve quarterback, this is paying go
going right. But there's a big leap between having the
right quarterback and winning a Super Bowl. You don't win
a Super bo unless you got a top ten defense,
or unless your defense is able to create a bunch
of turnovers. And I think, on one hand, pointing out

(01:19:15):
they don't have a running game. They haven't established one
that isn't changing anytime this year. And it's not like
they have so many pass catchers that are so dangerous.
On the other hand, it is interesting that they probably
are better since Calvin Johnson retired because you don't feel
like you don't feel like you have to throw it
to Calvin Johnson every third pass. Uh. Then you have

(01:19:35):
this from Nick right on first things. First, you saw
enough yesterday that was a difference from how that offense
looked in week one to how it functioned in week
two to where I think once Odell is fully healthy,
you could see this team score seventeen to twenty points,
which is typically all they'll need to win. Uh. Look,

(01:19:57):
Nick and Chris, in case you didn't know, Are all
in on Odell Beckham Jr. Being the best player in
the NFL. And this is that they're simply kind of
trying to have some confirmation bias. Hey, O'Dell's back autumn.
That's the magic elixir that's going to fix their problems.
The the issue becomes that their number two wide receiver
isn't a number two wide receiver anymore. I mean, if anything,

(01:20:20):
Sterling Shepherd Ship be their number two, although he's probably
better in the slot than he is out wide. They
got issues Eric Flowers. The Eric Flowers thing is not
going to change anytime soon. They're owing two on this
season and they still have to go three of the
next four on the road. Have you seen what's in
front of the New York Giants at Philly? Divisional matchup?

(01:20:43):
At Tampa? Who's a good team. Then home to the
Chargers who are also owen two, but the Charges are
pretty talented. Oh and two and a team that has
two guys Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa who can pressure
the passer. How do the Giants do against the against
the rushi ends or linebackers? Not well? Then they go
to Denver. How do you think that team is gonna

(01:21:03):
play against Denver's volunted pass rush. Then they're home to Seattle. Like,
I think the Giants are death by schedule from this
point forward. And if they're gonna score seventeen points? Do
they haven't scored seventeen points in two games so far
this year. Granted Odell Beckham's Jr. Wasn't fully healthy, but
I think that take that thought comes from a classic

(01:21:25):
overvaluation of one player at wide receiver in the NFL.
It just is And it kind of plays off what
I said about the Detroit Lions. They're better since Calvin
Johnson retired because they spread their ball around more, because
it's more about Matt Stafford. And last night they were
able to establish a running game with the miroab Doula.

(01:21:48):
The NFL games are born to watch. You know, people
keep freaking out about the l A and l l
A is not drawing with the Rams and the Raiders.
I think the greater question is, like, don't you, at
least on some level give credit to l A sports
fans not being snookered into buying tickets that they don't
need or want. I love when like we're just better
sports fans or dumber or dumber. We're just loyal or dumb. Yeah,

(01:22:17):
we show up, come, rain, shine, snow when loss. Hey, dude,
if it's raining or snowing on a Sunday and your
team sucks, why are you going to an NFL game.
That's not loyalty. That's stupidity. It just is. While I'm

(01:22:38):
going to boo, please don't tell me that's some sort
of loyalty move men. Look, there's a bunch of things
that go down. Get down to it. May people say, well,
it's a USC town. No, it's not USC. People go
to USC games. They're just are yet to create any
Raider fans. There were never any Ram fans. Rams haven't

(01:22:59):
played in Los Angele since they were down in Orange County.
That's a different place. That's forty five minutes when they
play is different, and no one thinks of the Rams
as l A's team anymore. It was if the Raiders
were here, they'd be drawing quite well. One because they're
good too, because they're the Raiders. Late Jenkins joins the show.
Next he had a great sit down with Dwight Howard.

(01:23:20):
How do we create say his career is gone? Next?
What opposite? I gotta leave show? Fox Sports Radio. H

(01:23:40):
so many things to get to today. Interesting stuff in
the Shoe Wars. I'll tell you how I relate to
baby names to the Shoe Wars. Upcoming we'll look forward to. Uh.
Major League Baseball is actually kind of interesting this week,
kind of it won't it seemingly won't end. They can't
get to the playoffs, but eventually they will. Um and uh.

(01:24:01):
Something that was a foregone conclusion? Is not that? Plus,
we got last night's Giants debacle Lions win, and we're
just like a couple of days away from a Thursday
night game that nobody really wants to see. Nobody wants
to see. How cool is it that the NBA schedule
came out and the Calves played the Celtics the first
game of the season. How good is the NBA soap opera?

(01:24:25):
Kevin Durant tweeting from Bernard Twitter account, then eventually tweeting
from his own account and then owning it today, We're like, yeah, sorry,
I said Billy down on his name. My bad, I
went a little too far, Like, yeah, you said your
teammates sucked and the organization wasn't good enough and it
wasn't Russ. That's not the way you left then. The
reason you left it was that you didn't like your coach,

(01:24:45):
which I'm cool with. Like, he owned it. He didn't,
he didn't say he was hacked, and he'll eventually feel
better because the truth is out there. But how good
is the NBA soap oper And if there's a if
there is a still a King of the NBA Soap Opera?

(01:25:06):
Right it has to be Dwight Howard. Now, what shouldn't
get lost in the Dwight Howard saga is just how
dominant a player he was for the for a good
portion of his career at both ends of the floor.
Forget the Superman and the dunk contest and all that
stuff like this dude was a freak rebounder, shop blocker,

(01:25:27):
beast and and and if you read the column and
s I earlier today which appeared online where I read it,
Lee Jenkins, I thought, did a great job point out, Hey,
the NBA has changed since he arrived in the league
straight out of high school in two thousand three. It's
become a perimeter oriented game where big guys either shoot
threes and evolve or are simply dunkers and rim protectors.

(01:25:52):
Lee Jenkins joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show, writer
for Sports Illustrated, does an outstanding job. You occasionally see
him on the jump as well. Um, you've got a
chance to sit down with Dwight Howard, and like, the
first thing that jumped out of me was here he
is in Atlanta, which is his hometown. He was he
signed with last year, and for about a minute and
a half. I had forgotten that they had bailed on him,

(01:26:15):
and he was a Charlotte Hornet right like that whole thing, Like,
oh my god, I forgot even they gave up on him.
What were there There's kind of a symbolic nature to
him looking out at the city that was his hometown
that they even they don't want him anymore. Yeahs a
salary dump. It was they getting the richest contract ministry,

(01:26:36):
the franchise. They traded him for Bell and Elly and Plumbling,
two backups, so you know, partying. I'll tell you this.
So he you know, he led in the Eastern Conference
in field goal percentage. He was think thirteen and thirteen
last year. Obviously was a badget there, you know, and
so many of these teams now it's five out offenses.
There's there's not a great place for him in a

(01:26:57):
lot of in a lot of spots. But I do
when I was wondering with him, if he's one of
these guys who was overrated for a long time and
now it is underrated, I mean, if you can give it,
if you can give a team, you know, fifteen and
twelves and shoot, you know, I know it's not the
Dwight Howard of old but there's still value there. So yeah,
I was surprised, like you were, that they gave up

(01:27:18):
on him after a year. You know, I read the
Hard Call again. I thought it was outstanding. I retweeted
as as soon as I finished it. Um, but I
didn't notice any hint of true accountability. Right. It was
the Hey, I was young, and you know, I was
a little bit lost, and I went out with these
guys and then I got a couple of I got

(01:27:38):
five girls pregnant, and hey, you know, like I wasn't
a good fit in l A. And I played with
a bad back when I shouldn't haveve and I played
with a bad shoulder when I shouldn't have. But there
was never there was, There's never any you know, some
of this was me. I don't feel that I got
any of that. Uh but but again that's me reading
into it. How much of that is list is? I mean,

(01:28:02):
that's funny. I thought he beat himself up a lot.
I mean, I I don't know that I've ever actually
talked to a guy. And like, you don't get rememb
an NBA players, you know, general big egos and you know,
not a real kind of a real reluctance to blame themselves.
I actually thought he beat himself up as well as
much as any player i've you know, I've ever talked

(01:28:23):
to when it comes talking about you know, religion and
the way he was felt like a hypocrite after you know,
pregnating the first girl he was with, and uh, you know,
the shame he felt and sort of getting in the
cycle and feeling as if he didn't communicate well with
teammates in l A and Houston. He you know, he

(01:28:43):
criticized himself for that. Um So, I mean, I think
he basically talked about sort of going through these legs
of cential crises in his head where it was everybody
would say, oh he last too much, smiles too much,
that he kind of adopted these different personas that weren't
him trying to be of Kobe, trying to be like Shack,
you know, going back and forth. Um So, I thought

(01:29:04):
those were admissions that I don't usually see, your fear
professional athletes that that's that or make. Um So, you know,
I guess, you know, I might take with the interview
was a little different, but you know, I might have
bungled that's it's it's some great it's a great point,
especially because you conducted and now you start walking me
through him like, yeah, that there was that, you know
that there was more of that. Then I give him credibly. Jenkins,

(01:29:26):
our guest sports himself a sinner. You know, he kind
of said that he got in this cycle where he
felt like, you know, I mean his someoney was so religious.
I mean, you remember when he came out of high school.
That was the whole thing right across on the logo.
He was. He was kind of this his own evangelical star.
And I think what happened was he you know, he

(01:29:46):
slipped obviously, and then I think that he kind of
got caught in this cycle. He felt like, well, I'm
not going to pull out of it anyway. I'm sort
of I'm sort of done as far as that phase
of my life. And yeah, I think life sort of
spun out of control on them. Um, but look, there's
still excuses. I mean, clearly, there's still a lot of
excuses to go along with I think some of the accountability. Okay,

(01:30:10):
So one of the things I thought you did a
great job of portraying is here he is a sheltered
kid from a two parent home, a very religious two
parent home, and a small school in Atlanta where they
try to keep him away from any sin, and he's
thrust into the man's world of the n b A
and and like, look, I understand that there, here's a

(01:30:32):
here's a young guy whose body changed rapidly, and he
was able to play and compete in very short or
in the NBA. But the the emotional toll of skipping
kind of the normal progression of a man right high
school into college, you know, three or four years to
figure stuff out and then go out into the real world.

(01:30:53):
One of my big takeaways is, Man, I wonder how
that Dwight Howard tail would have been as not financially
and not statistically, but in terms of the type of
person in life he will have for the next fifty
years had he gone to college. Remember, and this was
the last this was the big class thing. It was
eight or nine first round draft picks and oh three

(01:31:13):
when he went when he went to Orlando. Uh, what
is was your takeaway any different from the boy He
could sure have used time to grow and mature before
he got to Orlando. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's
such a sudden difference, right, I mean, you're I mean,
that's so many of these guys were that that level
when they're probably sixteen, seventeen eighteen, they're already sort of

(01:31:37):
living with stardom even in their high schools. For him,
because he went to such a small school, because he
was sheltered to such an extreme extent, I think that
it was even more of probably a culture shock when
he reached the NBA than it would be for your
standard you know, prep to pro guy, where it's already
a bit of a culture shock. So no doubt, I
think that, you know, when you talk about just sort

(01:31:59):
of an experience to bridge that gap a little bit,
to kind of be in between, to be to learn
how to be famous but not have money, or to
be on your own but still have some sort of oversight.
I mean, he clearly could have benefited from from any
of that, because I mean, is the guy who he's
living with his guys, with his friends from home, which

(01:32:21):
is basically what all NBA players do, you know, and
he and none of them had had any of these experiences.
And when they did, I think, you know, the crazy
used was it was like getting a taste of candies.
For he never had candy before, so it's it's a
great point. It's one of those things that as parents,
like as a parent like, I can totally relate to that. Right, Um,
I didn't want to shelter him, right, I mean to me,

(01:32:42):
I don't blame his parents for the attack they took.
I mean to me, it's the right approach. It's the
right approach in theory. But in this case, somebody like Lebron,
who probably didn't have that kind of structure, maybe benefited
from it because when he got to the NBA, well
he'd already figure it out sort of how to live
being Lebron. James Dwight Howard I don't think had that. Yeah,

(01:33:05):
And and Lebron is the exception to like every rule, right, like,
you can't you can't base what you want to do
based upon a once in a generation uh player, once
in a generation person and a guy who was, you know,
emotionally different because of his upbringing than n of the
of the players out there. Lee Jenkins joining us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um, I can't see a way

(01:33:28):
in which he's not a Hall of Fame player, But
I also can't recall a Hall of Fame player having
this sort of uh mercurial end to his career. I mean,
I guess like Shock bounced around at the end, but
but but but not like this, and it was not
as despised and like he's one of those guys which
you say, Dwight Howard be like, I hate Dwight Howard,

(01:33:50):
Like why do you hate Dwight Howard? Right, it's a
weird This is for a guy who I mean has
that's those first ten first I don't know, nine years
were incredible to be here is a weird place. And
he's not an old man. He went from three to
point one million All Star boats, the most ever, the
most of any NBA player ever in a season till

(01:34:13):
last year had a hundred and fifty thousand. I mean,
he had more endorsement deals than Lebron in two thousand eight.
It's staggering. I mean, when you think about that kind
of a fall from grace and that happens in other sports,
but in the NBA usually there's more staying power. He's
only thirty one years old. Yeah, the injuries were part
of it. Continue when you talk about how people recoil
at his name, it's more about the teammates that clashing

(01:34:37):
with Kobe. The clashing was hard, and at some point
I think people sort of threw up their hands with
Dwight Howard said, you know enough, I'm not going to
be fooled again. Um, And I understand that. I do.
I think part of it too is his you know
so much he made a body language with players and
the fact that he had that that sort of goofball
expression all the time and the big smile. I don't

(01:34:58):
think that's what a lot of people want to see
from the players. They want to see. They like that
kind of cheeth gritted uh, that court and more killer
mentality that Kobe Bryant persona. But I also think that
that really hurt Howard because trying to do that, trying
to be more like that, I think in some ways
took him out of the persona that gave him success
in the first place. Where is he? Where is he? Mentally? Like?

(01:35:21):
Do you think he's in a good place? I do.
I'm I'm hesited to say it because he says this
every year, this kind of storyline has come out about
him before. But I do think he has the right
people around him. I think that his body I mean,
I watched him work out and he just looked springier.
I mean, he looked so stiff. Are you watching the

(01:35:42):
last few years? You just wonder kind of where that
athleticism went. And I do think that that there were
after effects from that back surgery that we're lasting that
I think he's finally starting to get past. Now will
he get caught in a trap of because let's be honest,
he was stuck between errors. Right if he came a
him right now, somebody drafted White Howard right now, they

(01:36:02):
would let him do a bunch of different things and
they develop him, not saying he'd be honest, but they
make him into a more dynamic player. But because he
came out when he did, it was like, no, you
sit under the rim and you just were in protect
And he always felt he was capable of doing more
and that sort of ruined him in some ways. He
was kind of caught between eras. So will he be

(01:36:23):
okay kind of doing what he does best in the
Steve Clifford system, blocking shots, setting screens. I think it's
gonna work because I think Clifford knows him, knows what
they did in Orlando, and will feed him enough offensively
to keep him engaged with all the other things that
he does well, because at heart he's a great defender.
I mean, he was DeAndre Jordan before DeAndre Jordan's and

(01:36:45):
I think that he can get back to some of
those things and listen it he just spikes. I think
him buy more points a game. He's an eighteen and
twelve guy, and we're all saying, oh, he's most improved
player of the year. So I don't think it's such
a huge leap to think he could have that kind
of piece. Uh, Lee, I'm sure your next sit downs
with Kevin Durant and talking Twitter or maybe Instagram. It's

(01:37:05):
the The NBA soap opera is the best. But the
article today was great. It was really insightful. I felt
like I felt like Dwight Howard and you took me
kind of through a journey of where he was and
where he is. Thanks so much for joining us, and
we'll we'll tweet it out make sure everybody reads it.
I appreciate all kind of work, alright, Lee Jenkins, He's
awesome at what he does. Everyone is saying. Ben McAdoo

(01:37:27):
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(01:39:00):
the show Fox Sports Radio. You know it's look, we
do a bad job in the media. Sometimes we just do.
We do a bad job of the media because we
don't understand, like, we don't understand what people are we
whether we try and portray a story in which in

(01:39:20):
the light in which we want to portrayed, or maybe
we some of my brethren haven't been in the locker
room enough. Uh, whatever the logic behind it is, we
can do. We can do a bad job sometimes in
the media all of us. Uh. I take you to

(01:39:41):
last night and today the discussion about the New York Giants, right,
And have you heard that Ben McAdoo called out Eli Manning.
You heard that, like, I think it's a Dan buyer.
Have you heard people say, oh, Ben McAdoo called out
Eli Manning? Yes, yes, have you said that. No, okay,

(01:40:02):
I know you haven't. I hadn't heard that from you.
Rama said you heard that coming in that Oh yes,
that's all I heard in the morning. Radio called him out.
He called him out. He plays the blame on Eli Manning. Okay,
want you to listen. This is the this is the
answer that everybody's talking about. Take a listen to the
question that was posed. That's what happened on the sloppy

(01:40:27):
quarterback play quarterback in a center. Need to be on
the same page there. We gotta get the ball snapped.
We have a veteran quarterback who's played a lot of football.
Expect us to get the ball snapped. Usually the clock
goes from three to one zero. Once they hit zero,
they look at the ball, look at the clock. Usually
have a tick once it hit zero to get the
ball snapped without being a delay game. I thought we had,

(01:40:48):
we had a chance to get it off. So, um, look,
did he put the blame there at least partially on Elis?
Remember he also said like, hey, look, usually you get
a little you get a little extra leeway if it's
right the last second, and they didn't get that leeway. Sure,
but he also like The first thing was he wasn't
blamed the ref skuy when like the ref screwed us
on that one like some parent. He said, like usually

(01:41:11):
you get a little half tick, which is accurate because
oftentimes you look at the clock he goes to zero,
like wait, hey, was that snap late? And they let
him get away with it. But he wasn't putting all
of the blame of the offense on Eli Manning. He
was asked a specific question about a specific play. The
specific play was, and it was weirds, like fourth and
goal from the two yard line. They're down ten points

(01:41:34):
at the time. Math will tell you, dude, kick the
field goal. You're only down one possession. Just kick the
field goal, because if you do, you go for it
and you don't get it, the reward getting it to
within three points is not worth the risk. It's like
a center on the field goal, as opposed to if

(01:41:56):
you run the play, especially when you have no running
game like the Giants. So that's not calling out your quarterback.
That's answering a question. And yes, he put the issue
on that particular play almost squarely on the shoulders of
the quarterback because he's right, like Eli may have been

(01:42:16):
a quarterback for fifteen years. You can't get a delay
a game on fourth and goal from the two yard line.
You can't do it. Now. Eli might have gotten a
delay a game on purpose because he didn't agree with
the idea of going for it, and maybe that's why
McAdoo is ticked. But that's not calling out your quarterback.
You asked the question, You answer the question based upon

(01:42:38):
the context of that play. I think there's a difference.
Fire you agree there's a difference, or do you think
that's calling out your quarterback? No, I do think that
there's a difference. And I also think that if on
a night where there are so many issues that maybe
and maybe this may be a stretch, but it's also

(01:42:59):
could be tecting some of the other issues that the
Giants have by putting it on the guy who is
likely to still keep his position on the field, you
know what I mean. Like their offensive line stakes, they're awful.
Eric Flowers probably shouldn't be playing. You're not gonna bench
Eli manning for Geno Smith. So when you're calling out
issues on the offense. He's a big boy. He can
tell you know he's he's not gonna lose his job. Yeah,

(01:43:22):
like if you were to call out, man, Eric Flowers
need some work. Now you're wondering why Eric Flowers weekend
and week out. It's a common thing. Eli safe in
his job because they have no backup really to challenge
him for the gig. So put it on Eli. Put
it on the quarterback shoulders. He's a big boys, he said, veteran.
He can handle it. Yeah, I can see that. I
just I think that athletes take criticism a lot different

(01:43:42):
than people take criticism, where like the regular guys like
well he called him out, like we he pointed out,
he made a mistake there, Like you're not gonna And
I've run into this in uh and when I call
basketball games where I'll show you, like who made the
mistake defensively, you're like, well, there's not always a mistake,
Like okay, not always like NBA, you can play really
good defense and it doesn't matter they just jump up

(01:44:04):
and make a shot over you. But a lot of
times there's a mistakement that's how that's how coaches and
athletes and people who know sports, that's how they watched
film and they that's how you correct mistakes. And this case,
Eli was like, look, it's your job as a quarterback
to get that snap off, and and the other thing
I've taken and I wondered why they were running a
play there, And my guess is that they thought that

(01:44:25):
they had, uh, their their personnel grouping was such that
they had the right call for the right down and distance,
for the right play, that they were going to score
a touchdown. And that's why Ben mcadow's pissed, like, Hey,
we hadn't scored a touchdown, we're down at the two
yard line. We choose to go for it. We got
the right call, the right personnel grouping versus their personnel grouping.
Eli's job to get the snap off. He's been one

(01:44:48):
two Super Bowls. He's quarterback, you know, hundreds of games
in the nash Football League. That's his job. And I
don't think that's unreasonable criticism. Let's get to Dan Buyer,
figure out what else is going on. We can tell
you this, and let's go going onto the National Football League.
The Packers are one and one and host the Bengals
coming up on Sunday, but Jordie Nelson suffered a quad
injuring their loss to the Falcons, who was early in

(01:45:08):
the first quarter didn't return to the game, and now
ESPN says he is fifty fifty two play in that
game on Sunday against Cincinnati. That's according to ESPN. Panthers
admitted official placing tenant Greg Olson on injured reserve with
a broken foot. It's not like the old I R. Remember,
you can return at some point. It would be after
eight weeks and that's the timetable for Olsen to return
from his broken foot. Same thing with the Browns and

(01:45:30):
wide receiver Cory Coleman. They placed him on IR today
with a broken hand, so he'll miss at least the
next eight weeks of the season. Dolphins have spend a
lotbacker Lawrence Timmins indefinitely. He went a wall on Saturday
night before their game in l a against the Chargers.
The Dolphins actually filed a missing person's report because they
didn't know where Timmins was. TMZ is the one that
uncovered he was at l A X trying to catch

(01:45:51):
a flight early Sunday morning to go back home to Pennsylvania.
In Major League Baseball Cups, giving Chris Bryant the day
off for tonight's game against the Raise. In golf, the
twenty at PGA Tour schedule was released, not many changes,
but it should be noted the three d and sixty
three million dollars in prize money is the most ever
for a PGA Tour season. And finally, in the NBA Warriors,

(01:46:13):
forward Kevin Durant admitted he was the one who sent
the tweets from his account that stated he didn't like
playing for Billy Donovan and also didn't have much around
to him outside of Russell Westbrook when he played for
the Thunder. I want to move on from that. It
was tough to deal with yesterday. I was really upset
with myself. But I definitely want to move on and
keep playing basketball. So but I still want to interact
with my fans. As Will Durant called this comments childish

(01:46:34):
and idiotic Doug More Kevin Durant News, I mean the
heck of the first it was about Steph Curry's shoes
and uh people wearing under armour. Now it's with former
teammates and coaches in Oklahoma City. You know it's interesting
about shoes. Uh. By the way, now is a fantastic
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about shoes. Did you do you see what happened with Adidas? Uh?

(01:46:57):
The announcement from the in the busines this world with
Adidas today buyer, I did. I was given a tip
a little bit earlier that Adidas is moving on up,
as they like to say, on the charts for shoe sales. Okay,
so Adidas is now number two in the country in
shoe sales. They passed Jordan Brand, which is interesting to me. One.
I don't know if you realize that Jordan Brand is

(01:47:19):
actually considered technically a different shoe company. Jordan Brand is
like if if Nike is Honda speaking of a Honda
ad we just had, right, Uh, Jordan Brand is like
Lexus right technically owned okay, owned by Honda, but it's
his own separate entity and though they share some parts whatever. Um,

(01:47:39):
it's crazy how popular Jordan Brand is, Like the Jordan
logo is iconic and I see Jordan's stuff. But to
be the second most popular shoe brand is that's crazy.
That's crazy. Obviously now it's been passed by Adidas, but
it reminds me of um of baby names, like like say,

(01:48:04):
when you when you name a baby, a lot of
times you go like, all right, well, I gotta go
to baby names of two thousand and sixteen. So we
make sure that my kid that when they when they
enroll in school, there's not just so many kids that
have their name UH. Number one last year for UH
for boys was Jackson, and number two is Aiden. Aiden

(01:48:28):
is big. Anything with an N is big, right, Aiden, Ethan, Mason, Caden.
These are all top top ten UM. But one of
the interesting things is, like, by the way, my daughter's
name is, I have a daughter named Harper. Harper is eleven.
If you look at most kids named Harper, they're under eleven.
I would like to tell you I think we popularized Harper,

(01:48:51):
and frankly we have a haze. I'm sure there's gonna
be a lot of kids name like that's a really
cool name, you know. But one of the things that
that we looked at it and I think we got
a little fool by. I have a daughter named Grace. Now,
Grace is forty three forty three last year, but for boys,

(01:49:12):
Grayson is eleven and Grayson is also UH spelled differently,
is top hundred for girls. And the point is that
while Grace is only top fifty, right, it's forty three.
All the Grace, Grayson's whatever, anything, Grace or whatever is

(01:49:34):
really like a top five name. There there's others that
are like this to which different spellings and different the
the Emma's, you know, there's Emma's of the world, like
Emma is too, and Emily is fourteen, right, that's like
Jordan Brand and Nike be like, well, Jordan Brand got past, yeah,

(01:49:54):
but Nike still number one and Jordan Brand's number three.
That actually speaks even more strongly to the dominance of Nike, didn't.
So if you name your kid Emily and you're like, oh,
it's only number four teen, but there's gonna be a
bunch of Emma's anyway. There's Ella and Ellie, which are
twenty seven and twenty six, so Ella and and then

(01:50:16):
there's also Isabella is six, right, and Isabella you either
go by Izzy or you go by Bella. So there's Bella,
Ella and Ellie and they're all in the top twenty five.
You combine them, it's probably the most named girl girl
name out there. My advice to you, if your name

(01:50:37):
and your kid you want to help name your kid,
call me eight, seven, seven, nine nine on Fox. They've
got great names. Doug Ramos. Ramos is a great name
you can use for a boy or a girl, right, totally,
Ramos as Ramosotte very popular Italian musician. Italian singer Um

(01:51:01):
Ryan great that works for either guys or girls. Right. Actually,
when Ryan Music was named Ryan Music, his parents thought
he was a girl. That's actually true. Yeah until about
seven Actually is the first time he got addressed. His
girlfriend thought he was I'm getting what happened to Adidas passing? Okay?

(01:51:28):
So did my did My point makes sense? So buyer
that like, we're like, well, Adida's past Jordan Brand. But
it's like, alright, well Jordan is really Nike. Nobody, nobody really.
I would have been more surprised if you told me
that Jordan Brand passed Adidas, by the way, I did
say um, I did say Honda is Alexis, Honda's Infinity

(01:51:49):
is accurate. I've owned too accurates. I should know this.
Honda's accurate. Toyota, Toyota is Alexis, and Nissan is Infinity,
and Cadillac is really like uh Chevy GMC A GMC
is actually a right, like GMC is the upper level
of of Chevy. It's different but the same whatever. And

(01:52:12):
then there's Cadillac, which is yet a step above. Right,
they're all kind of the same sort of sort of thing.
John's got a Lamborghini. What's that with John? My kids
are fascinated by Lamborghini's also, and they're like, yeah, we
like the Infinity. My wife used to having Infiniti. We
that's has a GMC. We liked Infinity, but we really
like Lamborghini. Okay, I'm gonna get a Lamborghini. Like, no,

(01:52:36):
you're not. You're never gonna It's one of those things
like I don't want to crush my kids dreams, but
you're never gonna get a Lamborghini. Okay, Wow, you're not
gonna turn Haze into the next LaMelo. No, No, that's gross.
The Lamborghini is the ferraris and stuff. You know, you're
at least gonna give him his own shoe in like
ten years, right, no question, no question. Um, he will
get his own shoe, you know. Look. Uh, the weird

(01:53:01):
thing about Jordan Brand is they got pasted. I don't know.
I mean, I know schools that wear it, and I
occasionally see in the old school the throwback Jordan's are
still really cool, but I don't feel like there's lots
of new Jordan brand stuff that everybody is rocking. But anyway,
Adida's passing it, I do just passing it. Do you

(01:53:22):
guys pay attention at all? Like this is a weird one.
Who's the best team in baseball? Record wise? Like the
Indians are in town and I was texting a couple
of the Indians. They had the day off. They're all
hanging out in Orange County, and I was like, Hey,
could you guys take a dive to the next couple
of games for the Angels so they get in the playoffs, Like, dude,

(01:53:43):
we got a shot at the best record in baseball.
The Dodgers have the best record, but not by a ton,
just by three games. I think three games. That thing
is shrunk, really shrunk. So the Dodgers three games, The
Nationals have nine wins, the Astros have ninety one wins,

(01:54:03):
the Dodgers nineties six and fifty four. So this thing
is close to being a rap, right, But it's not
all the way done. Like, how's my math? Nineties six
and fifty four, that's a hundred fifty games. We still
got twelve games left, so it's not they are not
They have not locked up home field advantage throughout through

(01:54:25):
the World Series at the West, doug uh, but still
the naturally West. They had the best record, one of
the best teams, and still the West, the nationally West.
They have their up by nine and a half games.
But technically they have not clinched the West yet. No,
it's not a it's not it's not a statistical but

(01:54:47):
they have. I think they have. They have not clinched
it clinch a playoff birth, but not the naturally West.
I can't believe what's happened, though I guess I can.
I kind of called it, but I didn't really tell
I like, didn't think they'd have this kind of collapse.
It's weird. This. This is one of those deals to
where I guess we're like gonna go crazy over like

(01:55:07):
the Angels and not a good team. They're a game
and a half out and the Brewers, Dan and the
Brewers and the Brewers are actually a pretty good team.
There are ten games above five two games out. Would
you say the Brewer cer, you're a Brewer fan. Just
for people don't know, Dan Buyer is a Brewer fan.
Are they a good team? Yeah? I mean for what

(01:55:28):
the record is? Yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, no no.
Don't contextualize it, like do you think this is a
good like do you're like, well, that's a good team. Um.
I think that they're they've got they've maxed out. Let's
just put it that agreed. I think like they're a
much better team than like the Angels are in terms
of top to bottom roster pit, top to bottom pitching. Um,
I think they're much better. But I don't necessarily know there.

(01:55:52):
It feels like it feels like this is a year
to which you're like, ah, we're good without that final
wild card team, and nobody would really argue with except
in the in the American League. In the National League,
you do need Colorado and Arizona because uh nationally wild card.
On the other hand, those teams are actually have a
better record than the Cubs. We could end up with
a better record in the Cubs, right, Cubs only eighty

(01:56:15):
three wins, Rockies eight two, and the Dimeingbacks seven. Bad
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that bad news. I'll be the bearer of bad news.
I like being that guy I usually do. Do you
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to get to Today Data, Jeremiah Jonas Tomorrow, so will
Robert McClean mcclen rama's don't don't say this, don't say
anything music When I say mcclenn, what am my referring to?

(01:56:59):
Oh you know that's actually from I have no clue,
I have no idea, nothing, no nothing. Buyer you want
to get in on this? I thought it was love
Boat with Fantasy Island whatever. Yeah, look mighty Plaine, Declane,
Look look mighty plane. That fantasy is McCaine. Who is McClean,

(01:57:23):
John Ramos, die Hard, die Hard, die Hard Too, Great,
Christmas Fleix, die Hard One, die Hard Too. Yeah, they
are good movies. They are good Christmas Flex. Yeah again,
I've seen die Hard, but I just I don't know.
Would you just say that? You say John McClean like
there's a writer in Houston. His name is John McClean,
and every time I hear of him, I think of

(01:57:43):
die Hard. I think of the Annex Skywalk Annex Skywalk
from from Hard die Hard to Skywalker is die Hard
to that was that dulless Dullas Airport which is in
d c As opposed to die Hard, one would just
actually the Fox Tower? You know what the name of
the tower? What? What was the tower they? What do

(01:58:05):
they call the tower? I don't know. Come on, man,
this is like this is this is like Chaucer. You
need to know this. This is as important as reading
Tom Sawyer. These are this information. John ROMs, what's the
name of the Fox Tower? What do they call it?
And die Hard Tomy towerer re guy gives him a tip,

(01:58:28):
take off your shoes and scunch up your toes in
the carpet. What what is it? One of the all
time Like this is one of the great guy flicks
of all time? You be you know, you beka a right,
okay that one? You know. Let's get to the press,
the press, Okay, Dead buy Are really doesn't really do

(01:58:51):
the same, that's all right, that's all right. Today of
the press let's go back to the time machine, and
shall we to about Oh I don't know, dog Show,
we say twenty four hours ago. Well you got to night.
I like the lions with the points, Lions with the points,
John Ramos, who do you like? I'll take the lions,

(01:59:13):
lions in the road. What about you? Ryan Music making
a hat trick? Oh, I'm gonna take New York Times
at home. I think this is stealing money. Oh, Doug,
you got a little lesson. Takes sides with anyone against
the family again. Yeah, let's see see what happens. What
movie was that from? Godfather? Yeah? There you go? Alright,
Actually I think that's Godfather too, to be totally honest

(01:59:33):
with you, Yes, alright, but never seen either of them. Yeah,
you've never seen either god I just knew the Lion.
Don't ever take sides with anyone against the family again.
There it is. You've never seen Godfather. I knew it
was you afraid all along. You don't know what the kiss.
It's a kiss of death, not a not a You
have to watch these movies. Don't watch god Brither three.

(01:59:55):
Just skip over there, all right. Maybe that's what Laurdence
Timmins was doing on Saturday night when the Dolphins couldn't
find him. Team today suspended the linebacker indefinitely after he
went a while on Saturday night before their game against
the L A. Chargers. Was found at l a X
Sunday morning wanting to go home to visit his up.
Wait a months? Is it definite or indefinite? I can't either.

(02:00:16):
One dude, don't show up to work because you went
a wall. Yeah. Adam Gay says he has two rules,
show up on time and play hard, and Lawrence Timmins
violated both. Eagles defensive end Chris Long is donating his
first six game checks to fund scholarships for students in Charlottesville, Virginia.
They're they're too meant to promote equality through education, So

(02:00:40):
Chris Long donating money to Charlotte's villep He's got the
water Boys thing too, Like what a better human being
than me? Right? Yeah? Absolutely? I don't like him already.
I don't like him. I don't like him already. It's like,
um like Chandler Parsons. Right, I don't like Chandler Parsons.
Know why he's taugher than me. He's better looking than me,
kept better hair than me is jump shots better than mine?

(02:01:02):
Like Chris Long and give it a rest. You're better
football player than the rest of us. You're in the NFL,
good looking dude, all your hair, and now all of
a sudden, you're you're dead. You're saving people's lives with
the Water Boys project, getting clean water for people in Africa,
and you're and you're giving away six game checks. Uh?
Who likes that guy? Just too good a human being.

(02:01:24):
Green Bay Packers wide receiver Jordy Nelson reportedly fifty fifty
according to ESPN to play against the Bengals on Sunday.
It's it's, it's and it's a right now. Remember they
play on Sunday. Bengals are questionable as to whether or
not they will be able to get into the end
zone at all. Their their offense is listed as questionable,

(02:01:46):
isn't it? Their offense is listed as offensive, but um
like look, the offense changes dramatically without Jordy Nelson two
years ago toward a c L. Last year took him
to the end of the year to where he was sharp.
My concern with the quad injury is there are times
which guys come back from an a c L and
then other parts of their body breakdown just because kind

(02:02:08):
of your alignment is off. I think a lot of
people in Cincinnati think it's actually doubtful for that Bengals offense.
Maybe not just questionable. Great line though. A former NBA
head coach, Doug Collins joining the Chicago Bulls as a
senior advisor. So yes, Doug Collins is going back to
so It's stomping grounds where he was the head coach
of the Bulls. First, I guess he's leaving his TV

(02:02:29):
job with the ESPN, right, Yeah, that's interesting. Um, he's
I think he's a fabulous broadcaster. Last year I helped
induct him into the College Basketball Hall of Fame in
Kansas City, Missouri. Um. But I like, here's just a
quick little prediction. Wouldn't be crazy that Chris Collins ends
up being the next head coach of the Bulls. I

(02:02:50):
like that one. Um. In an interview with The a P,
twenty three time Olympic gold medalist Michael Phelps says he
has no desire to return to competitive swimming to Olympic medals,
so don't look for him in non competitive swimming. Maybe
maybe he's just all done with it all together. But

(02:03:10):
he's before, hasn't he. Yes, he came out of retirement
and was pretty good in the Olympics. Not great, but
pretty good. I mean he was still won a gold medal.
I think. Um, one of my favorite things to do
is just look at the medal list on Michael Phelps's
Wikipedia page. It is magnificent of just gold gold, gold gold, gold,
Go go go go get. Yeah. Yeah, listen he uh

(02:03:34):
if I mean like he's he's the most decorated swimmer
we've ever had. Um, he's pis surpass uh spits and uh,
I mean it's so funny, like he's had really an interesting,
interesting career and he finally got last last Olympics for
his little boy. I don't think he's little boy will
remember it, but to actually be there when he competed again. Hey,

(02:03:55):
let's head to the red carpet with John Ramos and
Steve Corral. Steve, do you think you brought out Bobby Riggs?
Do you think that people are gonna look at him
differently after this movie? It seems to be like he's
a guy that nobody really liked, liked, and now maybe
you brought something different to him. You know what I
was eleven when the match took place, and I knew
it was a gag. I knew even even then that,

(02:04:18):
and some people didn't. I think some people took him literally.
Gen Ramos on the Red Carpet interviewing stars Doug the
Battle of sexast Uh, this is is a made for
TV movie or like a real it's a real movie?
Was Did you watch it? I didn't get in to
see it. No, rama's you didn't get in. I got
the interview, but dad, they didn't let me in the

(02:04:39):
actual theater. So he love loved it. But but did
you how many? How many Rotten tomatoes did you give it?
I didn't see it than anything else. No, that's it.
Daniel Jeremiah Tomorrow, Robert McClain, and of course, Kevin Durant
admits that he didn't like the Thunder organization are playing

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