September 28, 2017 • 49 mins
Doug tells you why the NFL needs to remember who their fan base is and why it is so much different than the NBA's. He discusses the fallout from changing the NBA draft lottery rules and what it actually changes. Plus he talks to NFL Hall of Fame DE Jack Youngblood about the Rams start to the season and gets his thoughts on the protests in the NFL.
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This is the best of the dun got Lap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you from the City of Angels,
where I'm told there's a prestigious football game and yet
this one. Yeah, Bears Packers lem move field tonight Thursday
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Night Football. But uh, I don't know as anybody else
kind of out on this whole Bears Packers thing. It's
been since two thou the both teams made the playoffs.
It's the longest running rivalry in the NFL. But it
just doesn't feel like a big game. Maybe it's because
of September. Maybe it's because games in Lambo games and
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Soldier Field should be paid played in crummy weather. Maybe
it's because Aaron Rodgers is completely and thoroughly, for the
most part of his career dismantled the Chicago Bears. I
don't know what it is, but this is one of
those ones who are like, no, no, this is big,
this is big, this is big, and like, ay right,
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I'm not the only one. I think like the Bears
Packers games most recently have been memorable because we're waiting
for Jay Cutler to implode right, that's what they've been
most known for recently. But we'll have Bears Packers tonight.
He's winning again. I have a friend who's uh uh,
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one of my old bosses in the radio business, and um,
he's about my age, and he is from New York City.
I'm from southern California, and I don't think politically we're
exactly aligned, Like if you care to know, and I
don't know if you care. No, I'm generally a centrist, right,
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I kind of see posts eyes of this thing. I
don't fly off the handle at any one thing. I
take a deep breath and go like, all right, kind
of as interest not kind of. I am right. I
understand I had to pay taxes. I'd like to play
less taxes, but I know that my government needs my
money to make the world work. Um. I believe in
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people's rights and liberties. On the other hand, I also
think that that there are there's a good portion of us.
They're like, look, we'll give you a little help when
you're down, but you gotta pick yourself up to not
just as picking you up. Like I'm right there in
the middle, and I'll never forget the conversation we had
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after the election. I was went in New York City
at the time, where I lived and I worked outside
of it, I lived in it, and I said, uh,
I just there's like a pail over the city. People
are mourning. And I understand that New York City is
a bastion for liberal thought, for democratic thought. Uh. And
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maybe they thought they knew the president elect at the time.
Now the president better than everybody else. And I can't
believe you didn't see past this. And he said no, no, no,
no, no no, no, you're looking at this all wrong. And
he says un to me, which I found to be.
He said, what's the biggest upset in sports? I was like, well,
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I mean everybody says eight Olympic team. I don't know.
I think when Argentina won the World championship in basketball.
I think that's one that gets uh doesn't get discussed enough.
George Mason getting to a final four VCU getting to
a final for like George Mason going through Michigan State,
North Carolina and then Yukon to reach the finals four,
like that was I was pretty dump big. He said,
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this is bigger. What do you mean, It's like your
president elect, your president elect beat sixteen others in the
Republican primary and took down the Clintons to win the
White House. That's an upset. And I thought of that
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conversation when I saw with the Denver Broncos just put out.
Do you guys see what the Denver Broncos just put out?
John Romins, I did not see. I see you were
you were working. So sorry the rest of us, We're
just in here. I closed my eyes for ten minutes.
Let's get ready for the show from the Denver Broncos.
Last week, members of our team joined the Brothers around
the NFL and a powerful display of unity. It was
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an emotional time for everyone, including fans who support each
and every week as controversially as controversial has it appeared.
We needed to show our collective strength above. Our voices
needed to be heard loud and career make Make no mistake,
our actions were in no way to protest the military.
Blah blah blah blah blah. We're a team. We stand together.
Starting Sunday, we will be standing together. Um. I think
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he's gonna he's winning again because there's something crazy and
yet really really smart about whether he means to or
doesn't mean to what the president has done. Look, he
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went after the media. That was his thing. It was
the media, the media, the media, and he called Hillary
Clinton a liar. Everything was about she lied. Now it
didn't matter that fact check would go through and point
out that he was actually lying more than she was lying.
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He and after the greatest political family regime in modern history,
and the Clintons right called them liars and beat him
when after his sixteen rivals and beat him won the election.
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And now he's gone. After the NFL, the most popular
sport in America, the highest rated shows on TV last year,
we're all NFL games And in addition to predicting gloom
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and doom in the future for the NFL, like this
is taken over the airways, CNN ran a special on
it last night. And oh yeah, by the way, if
you think that he's not winning, I give you the
Denver Broncos who are apologizing to their fans. Hey, we
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weren't disrespecting anybody. We were just showing solidarity. Are you
gonna again, Nope, we're standing. And even if they're standing,
because like, look, we're gonna do this, We're gonna kneel. Now,
we're gonna stand We're gonna show unity even if it
has nothing to do with President Trump. You don't think
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he's gonna take this as a win. It's kind of remarkable,
a right, it's iron I was watching TV. I was
watching um well, the financial shows, and one of the
uh Trump's sycophants was on there and he's like, hey,
look look what the stock market has done since the
president has been in office. And the guy's like, hold on.
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The biggest jump percentage wise in the history of stock
market was when President Obama was in the White House.
Are you going to give him credit for that's the
stock market going up? There? He said no, well then
we can't have this conversation. But the genius to this
guy is that with even in losses, he claims a win.
We said this from Salam joined us in the studio
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yesterday and we're like, look, even when bad news comes out,
he just says it's fake news. And then when good
news comes out, whether he can claim responsibile it doesn't,
he claims responsibility. It's really remarkable. And I mean nobody
takes out in the NFL and wins. Hell, the NFL's
former players went to court in this battle for money
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because of CTE, because of brain trauma, brain injury, even
death caused by playing in the National Football League. They
compared him to the tobacco industry, and they settled for
less than a billion dollars, a lawsuit that had it
gone all the way, might have been worth over two
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They settled. The NFL is an incredibly powerful entity, and
the protests were kind of going away. Kaepernick wasn't in
the league. There's a guy here, a guy there. There's
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some solidarity shown by white players, black players, coaches a
little bit of it. He goes after the whole league
calls him s O b S. They react and their
fan bases apparently have reacted enough to where NFL teams
got cold feet and why they get cold feet, because
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the same way you win elections is the same way
you win in TV. Everybody thinks we don't care about
the flyover states. Nobody cares about Kansas, nobody cares about Nebraska.
It cares about Oklahoma and Alabama and when to end Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
and Pennsylvania is a huge state, Okay, But the truth
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is the rest belt in Ohio. But the truth is
that the NFL, much like corporate America really really cares
about the rest Belt, really really cares about the Midwest
more so than the NBA. The NBA is a city game,
man cities and suburbs. They love it. So NBA players
they can protest, they can their coaches can go on
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anti Trump brands however much they want. That doesn't affect
business and football. It does football, it does. And if
you don't think that the NFL here is loud and
clear from a good portion of its fan base that
is suddenly bothered by protests which had in fact existed
for the last year and a half. Only now are
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they releasing statements. Only now it's because it's the damnedest thing.
In political science classes, this is what my my, my
boss told me, going back uh to last November and
political science classes. For the next fifty years, they will
talk about this election, and they will talk about it
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much differently than how the public talks about it when
the media talks about it. Now, they'll talk about the
greatest upset in the history of our country. And you
know what, the second greatest ups that might be the
fact that he just went after the NFL and damn
if he's not winning, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
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But you gotta know who your base is, you gotta
know who fans are, and enough of these teams are
getting cold feet to where, Like we said it earlier
this week, a decorated ranger who went to West Point
plays for the Steelers, comes out salutes the flag, only
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Steeler to do so, and he feels that he's been
criticized so much. He apologizes to his teammates. Ben Roethlisberger,
hearing it from enough fans to where he said, well,
I should have gone out there and saluted the flag.
That everyone is paralyzed by this thing, and so what
do they do? They give up. They released a statement
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of unity, saying at the end, starting Sunday, we'll be
standing together. Be sure to catch live editions of the
Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. It's important that when these lottery rules go
in and they change, you're like, why they in five
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years somebody who had the somebody had the worst record,
had a really bad team is gonna end up with
the fifth pick in the draft, right, And you're like, wait,
that doesn't make sense. They had a bad team and
a team that had the fifth worst record that was
pretty good and then tanked at the end there and
again end up getting the worst record, the lottery pick,
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the number one pick in the draft, Like, wait, why
did that happen? Now is the day when the Sixers
who are synonymous with tanking only got the number one
pick once over the last couple of years. And he
hadn't even played a game for him yet and Ben Simmons,
So I get it, I understand it. I think the
tanking rules and trying to um trying to the resting
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regulations that they're trying to give the power to Adam Silver.
By the way, Adam Silver now is going to be
the bad guy for the first time ever in his
NBA managerial career. Right at some point he's gonna have
to deliver the bad news like hey, hi guys, Yeah,
hey Adam Silver here, Yeah, listen, I'm the guy who
got rid of Donald Sterling. I know, and I let
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you guys protest, and I've been really supportive, but you know,
you have a game on ESPN the other night, and
I noticed I noticed that Lebron wasn't playing, so look,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but look I gotta
find you two. I ain't gonna thank you so much there,
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all right? Yes, ryme music. What is it about the
NBA that that's the one sport where all of a
sudden fans became turned onto this idea that teams were
like tanking, because like, what's the difference from a fans
perspective between a team like I don't know, like the
Phillies who haven't been good at all in Major League
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Baseball for like the past like five seasons, or the
same thing for like the Browns who just haven't been
good they just can't get a front office that knows
how to use their first round draft picks pop properly
versus like what the Sixers did where it became this
like organized effort. And it seems like the NBA is
the only league that seems to be reacting to it. Well,
I think there's a bunch of things here. Okay. The
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first thing is, um, can you name anybody who's been drafted,
like anyone outside of when Steven Strasburg was drafted? Do
you have any idea when anybody else was drafted in
Major League Baseball? Not yeah. I mean just like the
big stars like Bryce Harper, Chris Bryant, Like I remember
he hearing about those big time players sort of right.
But do you were they drafted number? Was Bryce Harper
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drafted number one overall? I want to say yeah, but
he might not have been, but I think he was.
I want to say yeah, but I really don't know
if it was yet, yes or no, don't look it up,
yes or no. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with, uh.
What about you? What about you? Ramos? Do you think
he was drafted number one overall? I think he was
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drafted number one. He was drafted number one overall by
the Washington Nationals in the Major League in the two
thousand ten Major League Baseball Draft. Mani ma Chada was
third that year, Drew Promorence was fifth, Matt Harvey was seven.
H james On Talon was taken second by the Pittsburgh Pirates,
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who has a thirteen eleven career record for the Pirates.
So it is I think a lot of it is.
It's it can be hit or miss you very much
hit or miss. Noah Syndergard went second in the second
round of that year's draft. I mean, the thing is,
we don't know anything because of college basketball, we know,
we know these guys, whereas we have no idea about
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we have no idea about baseball players for the most part.
Bryce Harper being seventeen years old, not you know, not
playing in high school at the end, playing in college
as a youngster. That that ends up kind of drawing
our attention. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Radio app. Major League Baseball this year has evolved if
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you haven't been paying attention, Batting averages, down home runs
up um and they're all talking about the launch angle right,
in other words, yours that you want to get your
your back shoulder lower than your top shoulder, so as
you swing, there's kind of a natural upward trajectory. You're
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not looping your swing, Dave Kingman styles, there's a whole
in it. You're simply chitting middle to lower half as
opposed to middle to upper half. Driving the ball line,
drives hard, stinging ground balls, strikeouts are up, batting average,
down home runs are up. The evolution of baseball and
baseball has evolved also in terms of the youth of
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the game when they took steroids and p d s
out of baseball players that were in their mid thirties.
This is what happened to the Yankees. The Yankees had
all these old players on old, bad contracts, and the
guys weren't on steroids anymore, and so suddenly they couldn't
catch up to fastballs where instead of paying guys D
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fifty two D million dollars, you're better off having as
many quality players under club control as possible. The younger
means they play better late in the season, plus they
cost you less money, and then sprinkle in free agent talent.
I think the process of college basketball's evolution has already
been underway since the one and rule hit full hit
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full steam. Look at who's won the last couple of
national titles or even competed for the last couple of
national titles. The North Carolina team that won a national
championship had one draft pick on it, maybe two, right,
two guys take it, but they went one. McDonald's American
is that it. The difference was they had upper classmen.
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Gonzaga upper classmen older players, with the exception obviously of
Zach Collins, who was a one and done, their first
ever one and done. It doesn't mean you don't want
a kid who's going to be an NBA player. Look
at Villanova. Villanova had number one recruiting class in the past,
but when they bottomed out in two thousand thirteen, they
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did so because of that top er dream class. They're
too young, too arrogant, and couldn't compete in the old
Big East. You win with older players, you win with transfers,
you win with program guys, grown men as opposed to kids.
And now with the most recent recruiting scandal to which
everybody seems to be on edge over did our assistant
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take money, did a shoe company help pay a kid
to come here? Whatever is going on, I think the
evolution in the college game will continue to which you're
going to see more and more of the high level
programs play it safe. Don't get me wrong, Duke can
still get the best kids. Duke could have the best
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of both worlds, some four year players from three year
players from one and done. But look at Kansas. Kansas
has six players on their roster who started their careers
somewhere else. Six and why would you if your Kansas,
why would you do that? Well, because you don't have
to cheat for transfers. Now, there's no because it transfers
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is much like marrying a marrying a woman who's already
been married right, already had like she's already been through.
She didn't need and not. It's not about the ring,
it's not about the glamorous wedding, like let's just get
go down to justice of the piece. We just need
to be together, right. Transfers are where it's at because
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they've already been taught how to play. They've left because
they've either succeeded at a lower level or failed at
a high level and need the perfect fit. And really
it's hard to transfer twice, and so they appreciate the
benefits of playing in college. They're older, they sit out
for a year, they get more refined, they buy into
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your program, buying your system. They've been without basketball for
a year. Transfers are a great vehicle for the top level.
The top level programs now recruiting transfers. So I think,
if anything, you're gonna watch the evolution of the college
basketball game where coaches will pass on the ability to
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get kids that have the desire to be one and done.
They want guys are gonna stay for a couple of years.
They want guys they're gonna build their bodies. They want
guys are gonna make shots and hang out for a while,
even if their top end talent is not as good
as a player who might have his hand out. And
the easy argument. Now for a college assistant coaches, Hey man,
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before if I gave you something, I might have to
listen to. The n c A might come after me.
Now what if the FBI comes after me. I'm not
going to jail for you. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app Jack young Blood, of Course, hall of
famer Famous Uh Famous Ram joined us on The Doug
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Gottlieb Show. It's really really hard to tell because the Rams,
as much as they were bad last year, they were
expected to be good. Uh this year. I think they're
pretty good. But they played the Colts, who they were
all beat up and banged up and tear bull opening night,
and then they beat the Niners, who nobody thinks is
particularly good. They probably should have beat the Redskins at
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the Coliseum. But none of these teams are one to
which you measure yourself against. They played the Cowboys this week,
so maybe we've But Jack, you tell me, you know
this team, You've seen this organization. What do you think
of the ram so far? Well, they're better. Put it
that the way. They're better than they were last year.
I liked what I saw at the at the opener
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Um Golf. Golf showed me uh a lot more than
what he was he was playing like in last year. Um.
And their defense is still still playing good. I tell
you that last play that that Donald reminded me of
Larry Brooks. Remember that name. He was my wingman there
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on the defensive line. And I mean just one spectacular
play there. Now Aaron Donald. By the way, John Ramos
wants to get Ramos Ramis. Remember I remember Larry Brooks. Yeah,
Fred Dryer, Jack young Bled tough guys up front, Jack
young Blood joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay,
so how much of this is golf's improvement and how
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much of it is hey They went on and got
Sammy Watkins and Robert Robert Woods girly another year in
the pros, they put a good offensive, Like how much
of it is him? And how much of it is
they've kind of shielded him with more talent and better
coaching and and play calling. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta,
you gotta put that in there too. I mean called
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the plays that he can that he can make. He
can use that big strong arm, the big body and
uh and he can make those plays and it's looked
awfully well. When Gurley was had some had some daylight
in front of him. That was that. That was big
time stuff. Jack Young Bluck joining us on the Dug
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got Lip Show. Is this week a fair litmus test? Like,
now we're in terms of the legitimacy of playoff hopes?
Do you rest mall? It is on the road, it
is against the Cowboys, um and the Cowboys were impressive,
especially defensively getting after Carson Palmer over the weekend. But
is it fair to lump in all the expectations into
this week? Yeah, you know, it's still early, um and
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and so many players are just now getting in the
shape so they can play and play for sixty minutes
and or sixty plays whatever, whatever it takes. To to
to finish the ball game and win. Um. Yeah, I
think it's a little early to to put too much
on the on the expectations. But I but I think
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they've got a chance to, you know, play well against U. UM.
I guess a really good offensive Dallas football team. Yeah,
Dallas kind of old school runs the football makes you
bring eight into the box and then they find an opening.
Jack Young Bug, our guest on the Doug Gottlip Show.
You mentioned Aaron We talked about Aaron Donald. The team
did not relent as as they went into you know,
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the contract with the contract standoff, is that the best
way to proceed for a for a team who might
have the best some think he's the best defensive player
in football, is that the best way to proceed. Well,
you know, there's there's rules that that you try to
go by, UM for your for your entire football team,
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and he was trying to push it a little too far.
I think Um deserved every penny of what he's getting
because he is one of the best that's in the
in the business right now and UM, but he's still
young and he's got a long ways to go. I
think he's got a great future you know ahead of it. Okay,
So the Rams are six point dogs at Dallas, six
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point dogs against Dallas Cowboys. Rams had an extra couple
of days to rest and to prepare Cowboys. Kind of
a shortened week, kind of hybrid beak playing on the road,
playing late at night on Sunday night. Who do you
like with the number? Well, I'm gonna take my I'm
gonna I'm gonna go with my guys. I get six. Um,
I think you you you gotta you gotta look at
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the defense and if they can stop that running game
that Dallas has and force them into into into throwing
it down the field. Um, I think we've got to
We've got a chance to at least cover the number.
I don't think there's any question about it. My Bookie
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of my Bookie. When you've played, were you aware of
the line like I when I played college basketball, coach
used to you, guys are seven boys? Everge, You're not
that good? Were you guys aware of the lines when
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you played? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we we we kept
track of that. There's a little stuff going on in
in the locker room between the play years and and
and some of the you know, some of the personnel there.
It was always funny. It was just but it was
It wasn't it was it was likely. It was just fun.
It wasn't about gambling. It was about you know, yacting
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with each other in the locker room. Something to talk about.
You've seen some of these protests. What's your reaction to
what's happening? Film? Get me started? Don't get me started
on that. I could, I could spend a while. We'd
have to go into commercial before before I They are
these these poor children are are misguided and they need
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to they need to stop, take a deep breath and
think about what they're doing. And and and realized that
this is not your house. This is the boss man's house,
and he doesn't want you to embarrass him in front
of the country. But now some of these owners have
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come and locked arm with players, and and and and
yield while the national anthem is being played. Yeah, I've
got a little issue with the way they did that,
because in no in no way should anyone disrespect our
country and our flag. We're the greatest nation that God
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has ever made on this world. You don't really disrespect that.
I would say this, Jack. Look, I'm I personally would
always stand when when the national anthems being played. I've lived,
I've played professional basketball overseas, so I do. Look, I
agree with you, but part of what makes us the
best country is we're supposed to have the ability to
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express ourselves and if we don't like the progress of
our country, um, Like, look, I get it. I understand
that it's disrespectful, but it's kind of intentionally disrespectful to
bring attention to a problem. Shouldn't that shouldn't grown men
NFL players be allowed to express Uh, there are issues,
There are issues socially, especially when it doesn't actually affect
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the gameplay. No question, they have the right to do that,
but not in that forum, not in that stadium. That's
the wrong place to do that. But but where where
would they? Like, I've I've heard people say like, oh,
you should call press conference, Like why would anybody go
to a press conference, Well, we have your attention. It
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draws attention to problem like look, should there be a
next step? And it's okay, you your brew it, We
got you got our attention. Now what I understand all that,
but the idea that that's not the place. Where is
the place? Where's the place? It's it's wherever you want
to do it, off the field, out of the out
of the stadium, out of out of the the spotlight
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of the camera on the NFL. That's not where you
do it. Jack. I appreciate you expressing your opinion. And
remember Jack comeing to us on the on behalf of
my bookie dot Colm. Jack, thanks so much for being
our guest on Fox Sports Radio. My pleasure, my pleasure, anytime.
Pleasures mind. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Fox sports radio dot com and within the I Heart
Radio app. You can read into guys comments pretty well.
Some of it is position based, some of it is
contract based, some of it is aged base. But the
New York Giants who apparently are upset with Odell Beckham,
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and like I, I think it's reasonable to be upset over, Like,
what is the we talked about this Monday. That was
just a dumb It's a dumb celebration. There's a million
things you could do if you score a touchdown, pretending
like you're a dog being on the on the ball.
It's just dumb. Like I don't think he got a
penalty because of any other reason, Like that's dumb. Here's
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the flag at the end of the play, personal foul offense,
stupid celebration. Fifteen yards that'll be assessed in the kickoff
touchdown right like that, that's essentially the call poor display
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or assessment of the entertainment value of being on a football.
Thirteen giants fifteen yards be assessed in the kickoff. I
thought this was interesting from from Albert Brier of the
mm QB on Tuesday. I had a conversation with the
scout who was assigned to l s U in two
thousand four team when Odell Beckham was coming out. Quote,
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he wasn't like this. He was a typical wide receiver.
He liked attention, one of the ball, dressed flash. He
liked to be at the club, like having people around him.
But when it came to football, wasn't like this this
has developed. It's interesting. He had Jarvis Landry with him
at l s U, and Jarvis was the ultimate alpha dog.
Odell was the uber talented athlete. Jarvis was the dog,
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and I think having a guy in the receiver room
in the same classes him it kept him hungry knowing
where to draw the line because he knew if he didn't,
he might not be the best receiver on his own team.
I also asked to Scout what he'd do if he
were the Giants. In his response, UH was that unless
there's real growth, would he let Beckham walk? He'd let
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Beckham walk. The reason his message there is basically on
the best team player on your team. If you don't
let me act this way, watch out. Um. Beckham, of course,
was flippant with the boat controversy in January. Pay him
and as a as a team, you're implicitly rubber stamping
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the behavior and it becomes part of who you are
as a team. Here was his head coach in reaction
to his celebration. We should be focused on the way
he plays the game. He made two of the finest
players you ever seen in pro football since I've been
in the league, and those are getting overshadowed. It's unfortunate,
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it's it's unfortunately. I guess part of the problem there
with Ben McAdoo is when he says it's unfortunate. Is
it unfortunate because we're focusing on it? Or is unfold
Is it unfortunate because what he did cause us to
focus on it? Right? Like, I'm with you. He made
a couple of great plays, But how can we not
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focus on that? That's that's the problem with the touchdown
celebration is the touchdown celebration always takes away from the touchdown.
It just does, absolutely does. The question of do you
let him walk is interesting. There's the other question of
you could also trade him if you don't want to
do something. My thing is quite different. I think the
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Giants being bad helps the Giant's ability to control it. Right,
he's under contract. You're gonna give him. If you're gonna
keep him, you're gonna give him. The biggest contract to
anybody has ever seen for a wide receiver is the
guess Now you can also by the way franchise tech,
he ain't going anywhere. It's the NFL. Guys don't just
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walk away from they can't walk away from franchise tenders.
They just can't. The Giants take on the Tampa Buccaneers
this weekend. If you go to oh and four, if
he continues to act this way, you can also not
throw him the ball, or you could not play him.
They're like, well you're doing so to the detriment of
your team. Okay, Like daily lose this weekend, they still
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gotta go to Denver take on the Broncos. They gotta
go to Oakland take on the Raiders. Like strong likelihood
they lose seven to eight games of minimum once you
start owing four on the season. Just this is not
the type of team that's going to run off a
bunch of wins. You can also just not play him.
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That actually is an option, But the Giant's inability to
control this situation as he has this is learned behavior,
allowed behavior. It ain't any different than when you're raising
a kid and you're like, well, you're treat You're talking
about Odell Beckham Jr. Like he's a child. He's behaving
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like a child, a petulant one at that Ramas you know,
I coached my son's baseball team, right, and of course
I do go to my son's I don't coach him
this year in basket. I haven't coached me at the
year in basketball and travel basketball. I'll probably coach him
when it's the third grades. He's playing third and fourth grade.
He's in third grade. But I only get onto him
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about his attitude. The only thing I get onto him
now when he when he was pitching this past weekend
and he thought he threw a strike and it wasn't
a strike, and he gives a look to the umpire.
I was like, no, dude, we're not doing that. Just pitch,
just play. When a teammate messes up, he doesn't blame
anybody else, He doesn't point any any fingers about it,
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doesn't do any of that stuff. And the Giants haven't
been able to corral him, haven't been able to control him.
Haven't found any sort of mentor that he listens to
on this football team. And if Brandon Marshall is supposed
to be that guy, well he ain't doing a good
enough job. But do I let him walk now? I mean,
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this is just this is kind of wide receiver one
oh one right wide receivers act out. Coaches seem to
be bothered by it. Fans are bothered by it, but
you know what, you catch a cup more touchdown passes
and we let it pass. I just thought it was
a stupid celebration, that's all. And I wish they would
have given him. I wish they would have given him
a flag for a stupid celebration. Be sure to catch
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live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. He's r J. Bell. The
website is pregame dot com. He joins us every week
at this time on The Doug Gotlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Huh, I'm sorry, Oh, I'm sorry. Let's uh,
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let's get to it. Wait till I give my money? Right?
Are you tired of losing money every week? Do you
want to be in the know? Well, we might not know,
but Vegas always knows, all right, My bad? I I
butchered that awesome open a man video worked on that
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like night and day, like big bags under his eyes,
and I completely butchered. R J. Bell joins us here
on The Doug Gotleap Show. What does Vegas know? What
do the sharp snow? Let's start one of the great
rivalries in the Nastal Football League. UM, not as much
recently because the Raiders haven't been would until uh this
past year year and a half or so. But Raiders Broncos,
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Broncos tremendous at home first two weeks of the season.
Laid an egg on the road in Buffalo. But so
too did the the Raiders when they were on the
road in Tennessee to open the season, and I was
suing not in Tennessee. They won in Tennessee in d C.
This past Sunday, as uh they want. They lost on
Sunday Night football to the Redskins. Alright, who are the
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sharp son as the Broncos are a two and a
half point favorite, Yeah this baby, Doug has moved up
to three now Denver favored by three. A lot of
professional money on the Broncos. It actually opened a one
point favor, so one to one and a half to
two and a half all the way to three, mostly
sharp money. Usually before game day, it's almost all sharp money.
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Most recreational batters. You know, they'll start betting a little
on Friday and Saturday, but it's really Sunday the recreational
guys step in prior to that a lot of professional
act shin. I was so confused by the Raiders last
week because if you look at Tennessee and how they've
looked since that Raiders game, it really makes you think, Wow,
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what a win in Tennessee the Raiders had in week one,
and they looked really good in Week two, and then
to not only lose, but to lose with the offensive
line struggling, which is probably the strongest position group for
the Raiders. It's caused their real reevaluation with Oakland could
be an aberration, could be assigned as something, you know,
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more trouble. But right now the Raiders are a question
mark in Vegas and there's more money for sure on Denver.
Gonna be fascinating to see if the Raiders can kind
of turn this thing around after that embarrassing performance. Of course,
part of it is three of their first four games
on the road. Uh that that that limits any teams,
all right? The Rams, who had an extra couple of
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days to rest coming up a high scoring win over
the San Francisco forty Niners, take on a Cowboys to
team that played on Monday Night Football, So short week
for the Cowboys. Cowboys playing at home, Rams up front
seven has always been well respected and though the though
the Cowboys end up blowing out the Cardinals late in
that game, was tied heading into the fourth quarter. Um,
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give me a sense of what Vegas knows about Rams.
Cowboys a six and a half point favorite of the Pokes.
Another big money game, and it's been all Rams money.
This baby opened. Rams a nine point underdog that all
the way down to six. That takes big money to
bet from nine to six. This Rams. It's a tale
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of two teams compared to last year. So we'll be
talking about net yards per play all season. It's the
wise guy's favorite stat because it takes out turnovers, It
takes out the pace of the game. Every time I
snapped the ball on offense, how many yards do I
gain when the opponent snaps the ball? How many yards
do we give up? That stat? That net is the
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the one key number wise guys love. Nineteen teams doug
are within a half a yard from last year's net
yards per play. The Rams are one of the handful
that aren't, and they're actually two yards better. No other
team in the league has improved by two yards when
it comes to net yards per play, so The question
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is is a an aberration, Is it a fluke over
a couple of weeks, or is it the new coach
McVeigh and just a whole different mentality. Right now, the
betters seem to think the Rams are a different team.
They have been bad heavily over the Cowboys, and it'll
be interesting to see if we overvalue that Thursday night
game against a Niners. Niners team is not very good,
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but a lot of chunk plays, which of course helped
with that. Stets real quick, Doug. I'm starting to erup,
but a lot of people are asking what about a
Monday night team playing a Thursday night team? Right? So
short week versus long week. We've got thirty instances since
nine in the day to base the team with short rest,
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So that's the Cowboys here thirteen and seventeen against the spread.
So it does seem to have a small effect, though
a small sample size. Alright. Steelers Ravens. Steelers disappointing lost
on the road, uh to the Chicago Bears. Ravens come back,
They're coming back. I'm sure there's numbers on teams coming
back from London, especially without a buy, and I'm not
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sure how many of them mentally even made the trip
to London with that no show performance against the Jaguars.
The Ravens are a home dog against the Steelers, both
teams coming off a loss. What do you make of
that line? You're set up? Reminds me of the famous
Seinfeld line. Cramer was moving to California and they said
when you're moving and he said, in my mind, I'm
already there. But here's what I'll say, talk about history
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with no boy. There's one team in history that's played
after London without a buy, and that was the Colts
last year. They covered the spread and I actually bet
against him because I thought it was a big miss egg.
Now two teams this week playing without a buy. You know,
we'll see what the effect is because the one game
doesn't tow us too much. Here's the question, and you know, I,
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I know you love to talk about things that aren't obvious. Dog,
how much of an effect do you think the political
the President Trump distractions had on teams last week? I
personally think Pittsburgh and Seattle specifically were very much affected.
And do you think there's any effect this week? I
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don't know. I mean, the Pittsburgh thing is weird with
Big Ben saying he thought he was whish he was
out there not sleeping Sunday night. He said, yeah, I'm
not sure I buy that. Or if you're not's not sleeping,
it's not sleeping, not because you know that he didn't
go out and salute the flag. I just I gotta Ben,
you're super into the flag. Villan Auava, of course actually
served in the army, was the one guy out there
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like there's something that's unsettled about this locker room. But look,
some locker rooms are better when there's dysfunction. They just are.
And not just Steelers, not Steeler fans. I'm just not
only I just think at some point we have to here.
Here's one big thing that I'll be interested to see
how it plays out. That oh four quarterback class Philip
Rivers looks close to being washed Is a chance Ben
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Roethlisberger's washed up? Like he wasn't good last week twenty
two of thirty nine. He was not good. He hasn't
been good on the road for like three seasons. Okay,
So at some point do we go like, hey, maybe
these guys who we always think are good other time
has caught up with them. In their in their mid thirties.
I think that's a possibility. But like, look, if we're
gonna say that the politics and what what distracted the
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Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, why wind't it had distracted the Baltimore
Ravens who were involved in while they were playing abroad,
And maybe it did, right, because who knows? And that's
the thing. Every week, half the teams are gonna fall
shorter expectation because they're gonna lose against the spread, which
is by definition expectations. So to me, I think you
can reverse engineer stuff to make it make sense in
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your mind. But knowing the Steelers, and you know Colin
has talked about this, these emotional teams like Pittsburgh, like Seattle,
tend not to do as well early in the year.
They tend not to do as well on the road.
And both Seattle and Pittsburgh that's been the case, and
both I mean, from what I heard, Seattle had a
four hour meeting before the game against Tennessee about how
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to handle this. That cannot not be a distraction. So
the last thing I'll say on this game, though, don't
get trapped by road favorites because they always seem short,
here's a good exercise if you flip home to home.
So if Pittsburgh word home in this game, it would
be a six point flip. So Pittsburgh would be a
nine point favorite. So the fact they're favored by three
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on the road at Baltimore is a sign that this
Pittsburgh team is considered to be much much better than Baltimore. Right,
Colts are a thirteen point dog in Seattle, and the
Coats coming up their first win of the year, granted
was over the Browns. The Seahawks has not been impressive.
You know, they couldn't dust off the Niners. Uh. They
got a big drop on second down hurt the Niners.
Otherwise Niners might have made that thing go to overtime. Uh.
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And just the Seahawks haven't been able to protect. But
the Colts are at a talent deficiency. Can the Seahawks
win by two touchdowns at home? I think they can?
I would lean though, obviously Coats. Um. Here's what I
would say is I think the analog the analogous game
for this game is off the green Bay loss Week one,
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Seattle hat San Fran at home. You mentioned it, you
would think we've got to make a statement after losing
to Green Bay, they scored twelve points. This offensive line
is so bad. I don't know if it gets fixed.
I don't know if it's just motivation, and I think
it it affects more than just how much better are
you per snap, let's say, than the other team, But
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I think it affects Seattle's willingness with big leads. Let's say,
let's say they're up ten with with six minutes left,
and Seattle has the ball in their own thirty five.
Typically they would put the stay in the heart, get
the touchdown and make it seventeen and cover the spread.
But do they really put Russell Wilson expose him to
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pass rush in that spot? Or do they play conservative
and kick save Russell Wilson from taking a hit or
two perhaps, but now not cover the spread. So for me,
I I'm scared of pro set on the road in Seattle,
you know, for a his first road start. I think
if I'm not mistaken, if, but otherwise I would really
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like the Colts here um the Panthers trying to taking
on the Patriots. We know that New England struggle with
the with the Texans last week another home game for
the Pats. I don't think the Panthers very good. They
don't have Greg Olson. Calvin Benjamin did return to practice,
but he's all banged up. Uh. And Cam Newton has
been bad. I mean, he just hasn't been good. Tuck
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me off this ledge. If I'm a Panther fan, I can't.
I'm probably shoving you off because Cam had two pass
here's the only possible hope. Cam had two paths asses
in the preseason. They didn't play him. So the theory is,
and you hear Belichick talk and you gotta hey, I
listen to every syllable Belichick says when it comes to football,
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is September is like an extension of the preseason because
there's just less time with the new agreement with the union.
If that's the case, and you have Cam miss in
the preseason, then maybe you can make the case he
needs even a couple more weeks to get ready and
then he'll be better. The question is what's the record
at that point of Carolina. Here's a stat I put
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together just for you, Douga, I know your high i
Q approach to radio. The Pats have the worst yards
per play defense in the NFL. Right Now they're giving
up seven point one yards every time the opponent snaps
the ball. Now, the thirty first team is given it
up six point eight, Okay, so it's close. The thirtieth
team is given up six point two. So literally, the
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Patriots are fourteen percent worse then the thirty best team
on defense. There's never been a team across the season
that's given up seven yards per play. This so far
has been the worst defense in history. Though it's only
a three game sample size, so the Pat's favored by
almost double digits with that bad of a defense. If
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you do like the Pads batting with the over because
I don't think they can stop anyone right now, that's
r J Bell. Check him out at pregame dot com.
We'll listen to him on Fox Sports Trading on both
Friday and Saturday night. R J, great stuff, incredible information.
Really appreciate you joining us. Thank you duck Little straight
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This is the best of the dun got Lap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you from the City of Angels,
where I'm told there's a prestigious football game and yet
this one. Yeah, Bears Packers lem move field tonight Thursday
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Night Football. But uh, I don't know as anybody else
kind of out on this whole Bears Packers thing. It's
been since two thou the both teams made the playoffs.
It's the longest running rivalry in the NFL. But it
just doesn't feel like a big game. Maybe it's because
of September. Maybe it's because games in Lambo games and
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Soldier Field should be paid played in crummy weather. Maybe
it's because Aaron Rodgers is completely and thoroughly, for the
most part of his career dismantled the Chicago Bears. I
don't know what it is, but this is one of
those ones who are like, no, no, this is big,
this is big, this is big, and like, ay right,
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I'm not the only one. I think like the Bears
Packers games most recently have been memorable because we're waiting
for Jay Cutler to implode right, that's what they've been
most known for recently. But we'll have Bears Packers tonight.
He's winning again. I have a friend who's uh uh,
(01:37):
one of my old bosses in the radio business, and um,
he's about my age, and he is from New York City.
I'm from southern California, and I don't think politically we're
exactly aligned, Like if you care to know, and I
don't know if you care. No, I'm generally a centrist, right,
(01:58):
I kind of see posts eyes of this thing. I
don't fly off the handle at any one thing. I
take a deep breath and go like, all right, kind
of as interest not kind of. I am right. I
understand I had to pay taxes. I'd like to play
less taxes, but I know that my government needs my
money to make the world work. Um. I believe in
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people's rights and liberties. On the other hand, I also
think that that there are there's a good portion of us.
They're like, look, we'll give you a little help when
you're down, but you gotta pick yourself up to not
just as picking you up. Like I'm right there in
the middle, and I'll never forget the conversation we had
(02:45):
after the election. I was went in New York City
at the time, where I lived and I worked outside
of it, I lived in it, and I said, uh,
I just there's like a pail over the city. People
are mourning. And I understand that New York City is
a bastion for liberal thought, for democratic thought. Uh. And
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maybe they thought they knew the president elect at the time.
Now the president better than everybody else. And I can't
believe you didn't see past this. And he said no, no, no,
no, no no, no, you're looking at this all wrong. And
he says un to me, which I found to be.
He said, what's the biggest upset in sports? I was like, well,
(03:31):
I mean everybody says eight Olympic team. I don't know.
I think when Argentina won the World championship in basketball.
I think that's one that gets uh doesn't get discussed enough.
George Mason getting to a final four VCU getting to
a final for like George Mason going through Michigan State,
North Carolina and then Yukon to reach the finals four,
like that was I was pretty dump big. He said,
(03:54):
this is bigger. What do you mean, It's like your
president elect, your president elect beat sixteen others in the
Republican primary and took down the Clintons to win the
White House. That's an upset. And I thought of that
(04:15):
conversation when I saw with the Denver Broncos just put out.
Do you guys see what the Denver Broncos just put out?
John Romins, I did not see. I see you were
you were working. So sorry the rest of us, We're
just in here. I closed my eyes for ten minutes.
Let's get ready for the show from the Denver Broncos.
Last week, members of our team joined the Brothers around
the NFL and a powerful display of unity. It was
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an emotional time for everyone, including fans who support each
and every week as controversially as controversial has it appeared.
We needed to show our collective strength above. Our voices
needed to be heard loud and career make Make no mistake,
our actions were in no way to protest the military.
Blah blah blah blah blah. We're a team. We stand together.
Starting Sunday, we will be standing together. Um. I think
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he's gonna he's winning again because there's something crazy and
yet really really smart about whether he means to or
doesn't mean to what the president has done. Look, he
(05:26):
went after the media. That was his thing. It was
the media, the media, the media, and he called Hillary
Clinton a liar. Everything was about she lied. Now it
didn't matter that fact check would go through and point
out that he was actually lying more than she was lying.
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He and after the greatest political family regime in modern history,
and the Clintons right called them liars and beat him
when after his sixteen rivals and beat him won the election.
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And now he's gone. After the NFL, the most popular
sport in America, the highest rated shows on TV last year,
we're all NFL games And in addition to predicting gloom
(06:29):
and doom in the future for the NFL, like this
is taken over the airways, CNN ran a special on
it last night. And oh yeah, by the way, if
you think that he's not winning, I give you the
Denver Broncos who are apologizing to their fans. Hey, we
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weren't disrespecting anybody. We were just showing solidarity. Are you
gonna again, Nope, we're standing. And even if they're standing,
because like, look, we're gonna do this, We're gonna kneel. Now,
we're gonna stand We're gonna show unity even if it
has nothing to do with President Trump. You don't think
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he's gonna take this as a win. It's kind of remarkable,
a right, it's iron I was watching TV. I was
watching um well, the financial shows, and one of the
uh Trump's sycophants was on there and he's like, hey,
look look what the stock market has done since the
president has been in office. And the guy's like, hold on.
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The biggest jump percentage wise in the history of stock
market was when President Obama was in the White House.
Are you going to give him credit for that's the
stock market going up? There? He said no, well then
we can't have this conversation. But the genius to this
guy is that with even in losses, he claims a win.
We said this from Salam joined us in the studio
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yesterday and we're like, look, even when bad news comes out,
he just says it's fake news. And then when good
news comes out, whether he can claim responsibile it doesn't,
he claims responsibility. It's really remarkable. And I mean nobody
takes out in the NFL and wins. Hell, the NFL's
former players went to court in this battle for money
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because of CTE, because of brain trauma, brain injury, even
death caused by playing in the National Football League. They
compared him to the tobacco industry, and they settled for
less than a billion dollars, a lawsuit that had it
gone all the way, might have been worth over two
(08:45):
They settled. The NFL is an incredibly powerful entity, and
the protests were kind of going away. Kaepernick wasn't in
the league. There's a guy here, a guy there. There's
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some solidarity shown by white players, black players, coaches a
little bit of it. He goes after the whole league
calls him s O b S. They react and their
fan bases apparently have reacted enough to where NFL teams
got cold feet and why they get cold feet, because
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the same way you win elections is the same way
you win in TV. Everybody thinks we don't care about
the flyover states. Nobody cares about Kansas, nobody cares about Nebraska.
It cares about Oklahoma and Alabama and when to end Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
and Pennsylvania is a huge state, Okay, But the truth
(09:53):
is the rest belt in Ohio. But the truth is
that the NFL, much like corporate America really really cares
about the rest Belt, really really cares about the Midwest
more so than the NBA. The NBA is a city game,
man cities and suburbs. They love it. So NBA players
they can protest, they can their coaches can go on
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anti Trump brands however much they want. That doesn't affect
business and football. It does football, it does. And if
you don't think that the NFL here is loud and
clear from a good portion of its fan base that
is suddenly bothered by protests which had in fact existed
for the last year and a half. Only now are
(10:38):
they releasing statements. Only now it's because it's the damnedest thing.
In political science classes, this is what my my, my
boss told me, going back uh to last November and
political science classes. For the next fifty years, they will
talk about this election, and they will talk about it
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much differently than how the public talks about it when
the media talks about it. Now, they'll talk about the
greatest upset in the history of our country. And you
know what, the second greatest ups that might be the
fact that he just went after the NFL and damn
if he's not winning, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
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But you gotta know who your base is, you gotta
know who fans are, and enough of these teams are
getting cold feet to where, Like we said it earlier
this week, a decorated ranger who went to West Point
plays for the Steelers, comes out salutes the flag, only
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Steeler to do so, and he feels that he's been
criticized so much. He apologizes to his teammates. Ben Roethlisberger,
hearing it from enough fans to where he said, well,
I should have gone out there and saluted the flag.
That everyone is paralyzed by this thing, and so what
do they do? They give up. They released a statement
(12:05):
of unity, saying at the end, starting Sunday, we'll be
standing together. Be sure to catch live editions of the
Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. It's important that when these lottery rules go
in and they change, you're like, why they in five
(12:27):
years somebody who had the somebody had the worst record,
had a really bad team is gonna end up with
the fifth pick in the draft, right, And you're like, wait,
that doesn't make sense. They had a bad team and
a team that had the fifth worst record that was
pretty good and then tanked at the end there and
again end up getting the worst record, the lottery pick,
(12:47):
the number one pick in the draft, Like, wait, why
did that happen? Now is the day when the Sixers
who are synonymous with tanking only got the number one
pick once over the last couple of years. And he
hadn't even played a game for him yet and Ben Simmons,
So I get it, I understand it. I think the
tanking rules and trying to um trying to the resting
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regulations that they're trying to give the power to Adam Silver.
By the way, Adam Silver now is going to be
the bad guy for the first time ever in his
NBA managerial career. Right at some point he's gonna have
to deliver the bad news like hey, hi guys, Yeah,
hey Adam Silver here, Yeah, listen, I'm the guy who
got rid of Donald Sterling. I know, and I let
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you guys protest, and I've been really supportive, but you know,
you have a game on ESPN the other night, and
I noticed I noticed that Lebron wasn't playing, so look,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but look I gotta
find you two. I ain't gonna thank you so much there,
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all right? Yes, ryme music. What is it about the
NBA that that's the one sport where all of a
sudden fans became turned onto this idea that teams were
like tanking, because like, what's the difference from a fans
perspective between a team like I don't know, like the
Phillies who haven't been good at all in Major League
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Baseball for like the past like five seasons, or the
same thing for like the Browns who just haven't been
good they just can't get a front office that knows
how to use their first round draft picks pop properly
versus like what the Sixers did where it became this
like organized effort. And it seems like the NBA is
the only league that seems to be reacting to it. Well,
I think there's a bunch of things here. Okay. The
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first thing is, um, can you name anybody who's been drafted,
like anyone outside of when Steven Strasburg was drafted? Do
you have any idea when anybody else was drafted in
Major League Baseball? Not yeah. I mean just like the
big stars like Bryce Harper, Chris Bryant, Like I remember
he hearing about those big time players sort of right.
But do you were they drafted number? Was Bryce Harper
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drafted number one overall? I want to say yeah, but
he might not have been, but I think he was.
I want to say yeah, but I really don't know
if it was yet, yes or no, don't look it up,
yes or no. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with, uh.
What about you? What about you? Ramos? Do you think
he was drafted number one overall? I think he was
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drafted number one. He was drafted number one overall by
the Washington Nationals in the Major League in the two
thousand ten Major League Baseball Draft. Mani ma Chada was
third that year, Drew Promorence was fifth, Matt Harvey was seven.
H james On Talon was taken second by the Pittsburgh Pirates,
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who has a thirteen eleven career record for the Pirates.
So it is I think a lot of it is.
It's it can be hit or miss you very much
hit or miss. Noah Syndergard went second in the second
round of that year's draft. I mean, the thing is,
we don't know anything because of college basketball, we know,
we know these guys, whereas we have no idea about
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we have no idea about baseball players for the most part.
Bryce Harper being seventeen years old, not you know, not
playing in high school at the end, playing in college
as a youngster. That that ends up kind of drawing
our attention. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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you haven't been paying attention, Batting averages, down home runs
up um and they're all talking about the launch angle right,
in other words, yours that you want to get your
your back shoulder lower than your top shoulder, so as
you swing, there's kind of a natural upward trajectory. You're
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not looping your swing, Dave Kingman styles, there's a whole
in it. You're simply chitting middle to lower half as
opposed to middle to upper half. Driving the ball line,
drives hard, stinging ground balls, strikeouts are up, batting average,
down home runs are up. The evolution of baseball and
baseball has evolved also in terms of the youth of
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the game when they took steroids and p d s
out of baseball players that were in their mid thirties.
This is what happened to the Yankees. The Yankees had
all these old players on old, bad contracts, and the
guys weren't on steroids anymore, and so suddenly they couldn't
catch up to fastballs where instead of paying guys D
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fifty two D million dollars, you're better off having as
many quality players under club control as possible. The younger
means they play better late in the season, plus they
cost you less money, and then sprinkle in free agent talent.
I think the process of college basketball's evolution has already
been underway since the one and rule hit full hit
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full steam. Look at who's won the last couple of
national titles or even competed for the last couple of
national titles. The North Carolina team that won a national
championship had one draft pick on it, maybe two, right,
two guys take it, but they went one. McDonald's American
is that it. The difference was they had upper classmen.
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Gonzaga upper classmen older players, with the exception obviously of
Zach Collins, who was a one and done, their first
ever one and done. It doesn't mean you don't want
a kid who's going to be an NBA player. Look
at Villanova. Villanova had number one recruiting class in the past,
but when they bottomed out in two thousand thirteen, they
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did so because of that top er dream class. They're
too young, too arrogant, and couldn't compete in the old
Big East. You win with older players, you win with transfers,
you win with program guys, grown men as opposed to kids.
And now with the most recent recruiting scandal to which
everybody seems to be on edge over did our assistant
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take money, did a shoe company help pay a kid
to come here? Whatever is going on, I think the
evolution in the college game will continue to which you're
going to see more and more of the high level
programs play it safe. Don't get me wrong, Duke can
still get the best kids. Duke could have the best
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of both worlds, some four year players from three year
players from one and done. But look at Kansas. Kansas
has six players on their roster who started their careers
somewhere else. Six and why would you if your Kansas,
why would you do that? Well, because you don't have
to cheat for transfers. Now, there's no because it transfers
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is much like marrying a marrying a woman who's already
been married right, already had like she's already been through.
She didn't need and not. It's not about the ring,
it's not about the glamorous wedding, like let's just get
go down to justice of the piece. We just need
to be together, right. Transfers are where it's at because
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they've already been taught how to play. They've left because
they've either succeeded at a lower level or failed at
a high level and need the perfect fit. And really
it's hard to transfer twice, and so they appreciate the
benefits of playing in college. They're older, they sit out
for a year, they get more refined, they buy into
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your program, buying your system. They've been without basketball for
a year. Transfers are a great vehicle for the top level.
The top level programs now recruiting transfers. So I think,
if anything, you're gonna watch the evolution of the college
basketball game where coaches will pass on the ability to
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get kids that have the desire to be one and done.
They want guys are gonna stay for a couple of years.
They want guys they're gonna build their bodies. They want
guys are gonna make shots and hang out for a while,
even if their top end talent is not as good
as a player who might have his hand out. And
the easy argument. Now for a college assistant coaches, Hey man,
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before if I gave you something, I might have to
listen to. The n c A might come after me.
Now what if the FBI comes after me. I'm not
going to jail for you. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app Jack young Blood, of Course, hall of
famer Famous Uh Famous Ram joined us on The Doug
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Gottlieb Show. It's really really hard to tell because the Rams,
as much as they were bad last year, they were
expected to be good. Uh this year. I think they're
pretty good. But they played the Colts, who they were
all beat up and banged up and tear bull opening night,
and then they beat the Niners, who nobody thinks is
particularly good. They probably should have beat the Redskins at
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the Coliseum. But none of these teams are one to
which you measure yourself against. They played the Cowboys this week,
so maybe we've But Jack, you tell me, you know
this team, You've seen this organization. What do you think
of the ram so far? Well, they're better. Put it
that the way. They're better than they were last year.
I liked what I saw at the at the opener
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Um Golf. Golf showed me uh a lot more than
what he was he was playing like in last year. Um.
And their defense is still still playing good. I tell
you that last play that that Donald reminded me of
Larry Brooks. Remember that name. He was my wingman there
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on the defensive line. And I mean just one spectacular
play there. Now Aaron Donald. By the way, John Ramos
wants to get Ramos Ramis. Remember I remember Larry Brooks. Yeah,
Fred Dryer, Jack young Bled tough guys up front, Jack
young Blood joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay,
so how much of this is golf's improvement and how
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much of it is hey They went on and got
Sammy Watkins and Robert Robert Woods girly another year in
the pros, they put a good offensive, Like how much
of it is him? And how much of it is
they've kind of shielded him with more talent and better
coaching and and play calling. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta,
you gotta put that in there too. I mean called
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the plays that he can that he can make. He
can use that big strong arm, the big body and
uh and he can make those plays and it's looked
awfully well. When Gurley was had some had some daylight
in front of him. That was that. That was big
time stuff. Jack Young Bluck joining us on the Dug
(23:52):
got Lip Show. Is this week a fair litmus test? Like,
now we're in terms of the legitimacy of playoff hopes?
Do you rest mall? It is on the road, it
is against the Cowboys, um and the Cowboys were impressive,
especially defensively getting after Carson Palmer over the weekend. But
is it fair to lump in all the expectations into
this week? Yeah, you know, it's still early, um and
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and so many players are just now getting in the
shape so they can play and play for sixty minutes
and or sixty plays whatever, whatever it takes. To to
to finish the ball game and win. Um. Yeah, I
think it's a little early to to put too much
on the on the expectations. But I but I think
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they've got a chance to, you know, play well against U. UM.
I guess a really good offensive Dallas football team. Yeah,
Dallas kind of old school runs the football makes you
bring eight into the box and then they find an opening.
Jack Young Bug, our guest on the Doug Gottlip Show.
You mentioned Aaron We talked about Aaron Donald. The team
did not relent as as they went into you know,
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the contract with the contract standoff, is that the best
way to proceed for a for a team who might
have the best some think he's the best defensive player
in football, is that the best way to proceed. Well,
you know, there's there's rules that that you try to
go by, UM for your for your entire football team,
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and he was trying to push it a little too far.
I think Um deserved every penny of what he's getting
because he is one of the best that's in the
in the business right now and UM, but he's still
young and he's got a long ways to go. I
think he's got a great future you know ahead of it. Okay,
So the Rams are six point dogs at Dallas, six
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point dogs against Dallas Cowboys. Rams had an extra couple
of days to rest and to prepare Cowboys. Kind of
a shortened week, kind of hybrid beak playing on the road,
playing late at night on Sunday night. Who do you
like with the number? Well, I'm gonna take my I'm
gonna I'm gonna go with my guys. I get six. Um,
I think you you you gotta you gotta look at
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the defense and if they can stop that running game
that Dallas has and force them into into into throwing
it down the field. Um, I think we've got to
We've got a chance to at least cover the number.
I don't think there's any question about it. My Bookie
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Young Bud joining us, uh joining us on behalf of
of my Bookie. When you've played, were you aware of
the line like I when I played college basketball, coach
used to you, guys are seven boys? Everge, You're not
that good? Were you guys aware of the lines when
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you played? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we we we kept
track of that. There's a little stuff going on in
in the locker room between the play years and and
and some of the you know, some of the personnel there.
It was always funny. It was just but it was
It wasn't it was it was likely. It was just fun.
It wasn't about gambling. It was about you know, yacting
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with each other in the locker room. Something to talk about.
You've seen some of these protests. What's your reaction to
what's happening? Film? Get me started? Don't get me started
on that. I could, I could spend a while. We'd
have to go into commercial before before I They are
these these poor children are are misguided and they need
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to they need to stop, take a deep breath and
think about what they're doing. And and and realized that
this is not your house. This is the boss man's house,
and he doesn't want you to embarrass him in front
of the country. But now some of these owners have
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come and locked arm with players, and and and and
yield while the national anthem is being played. Yeah, I've
got a little issue with the way they did that,
because in no in no way should anyone disrespect our
country and our flag. We're the greatest nation that God
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has ever made on this world. You don't really disrespect that.
I would say this, Jack. Look, I'm I personally would
always stand when when the national anthems being played. I've lived,
I've played professional basketball overseas, so I do. Look, I
agree with you, but part of what makes us the
best country is we're supposed to have the ability to
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express ourselves and if we don't like the progress of
our country, um, Like, look, I get it. I understand
that it's disrespectful, but it's kind of intentionally disrespectful to
bring attention to a problem. Shouldn't that shouldn't grown men
NFL players be allowed to express Uh, there are issues,
There are issues socially, especially when it doesn't actually affect
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the gameplay. No question, they have the right to do that,
but not in that forum, not in that stadium. That's
the wrong place to do that. But but where where
would they? Like, I've I've heard people say like, oh,
you should call press conference, Like why would anybody go
to a press conference, Well, we have your attention. It
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draws attention to problem like look, should there be a
next step? And it's okay, you your brew it, We
got you got our attention. Now what I understand all that,
but the idea that that's not the place. Where is
the place? Where's the place? It's it's wherever you want
to do it, off the field, out of the out
of the stadium, out of out of the the spotlight
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of the camera on the NFL. That's not where you
do it. Jack. I appreciate you expressing your opinion. And
remember Jack comeing to us on the on behalf of
my bookie dot Colm. Jack, thanks so much for being
our guest on Fox Sports Radio. My pleasure, my pleasure, anytime.
Pleasures mind. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Fox sports radio dot com and within the I Heart
Radio app. You can read into guys comments pretty well.
Some of it is position based, some of it is
contract based, some of it is aged base. But the
New York Giants who apparently are upset with Odell Beckham,
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and like I, I think it's reasonable to be upset over, Like,
what is the we talked about this Monday. That was
just a dumb It's a dumb celebration. There's a million
things you could do if you score a touchdown, pretending
like you're a dog being on the on the ball.
It's just dumb. Like I don't think he got a
penalty because of any other reason, Like that's dumb. Here's
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the flag at the end of the play, personal foul offense,
stupid celebration. Fifteen yards that'll be assessed in the kickoff
touchdown right like that, that's essentially the call poor display
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or assessment of the entertainment value of being on a football.
Thirteen giants fifteen yards be assessed in the kickoff. I
thought this was interesting from from Albert Brier of the
mm QB on Tuesday. I had a conversation with the
scout who was assigned to l s U in two
thousand four team when Odell Beckham was coming out. Quote,
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he wasn't like this. He was a typical wide receiver.
He liked attention, one of the ball, dressed flash. He
liked to be at the club, like having people around him.
But when it came to football, wasn't like this this
has developed. It's interesting. He had Jarvis Landry with him
at l s U, and Jarvis was the ultimate alpha dog.
Odell was the uber talented athlete. Jarvis was the dog,
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and I think having a guy in the receiver room
in the same classes him it kept him hungry knowing
where to draw the line because he knew if he didn't,
he might not be the best receiver on his own team.
I also asked to Scout what he'd do if he
were the Giants. In his response, UH was that unless
there's real growth, would he let Beckham walk? He'd let
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Beckham walk. The reason his message there is basically on
the best team player on your team. If you don't
let me act this way, watch out. Um. Beckham, of course,
was flippant with the boat controversy in January. Pay him
and as a as a team, you're implicitly rubber stamping
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the behavior and it becomes part of who you are
as a team. Here was his head coach in reaction
to his celebration. We should be focused on the way
he plays the game. He made two of the finest
players you ever seen in pro football since I've been
in the league, and those are getting overshadowed. It's unfortunate,
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it's it's unfortunately. I guess part of the problem there
with Ben McAdoo is when he says it's unfortunate. Is
it unfortunate because we're focusing on it? Or is unfold
Is it unfortunate because what he did cause us to
focus on it? Right? Like, I'm with you. He made
a couple of great plays, But how can we not
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focus on that? That's that's the problem with the touchdown
celebration is the touchdown celebration always takes away from the touchdown.
It just does, absolutely does. The question of do you
let him walk is interesting. There's the other question of
you could also trade him if you don't want to
do something. My thing is quite different. I think the
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Giants being bad helps the Giant's ability to control it. Right,
he's under contract. You're gonna give him. If you're gonna
keep him, you're gonna give him. The biggest contract to
anybody has ever seen for a wide receiver is the
guess Now you can also by the way franchise tech,
he ain't going anywhere. It's the NFL. Guys don't just
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walk away from they can't walk away from franchise tenders.
They just can't. The Giants take on the Tampa Buccaneers
this weekend. If you go to oh and four, if
he continues to act this way, you can also not
throw him the ball, or you could not play him.
They're like, well you're doing so to the detriment of
your team. Okay, Like daily lose this weekend, they still
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gotta go to Denver take on the Broncos. They gotta
go to Oakland take on the Raiders. Like strong likelihood
they lose seven to eight games of minimum once you
start owing four on the season. Just this is not
the type of team that's going to run off a
bunch of wins. You can also just not play him.
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That actually is an option, But the Giant's inability to
control this situation as he has this is learned behavior,
allowed behavior. It ain't any different than when you're raising
a kid and you're like, well, you're treat You're talking
about Odell Beckham Jr. Like he's a child. He's behaving
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like a child, a petulant one at that Ramas you know,
I coached my son's baseball team, right, and of course
I do go to my son's I don't coach him
this year in basket. I haven't coached me at the
year in basketball and travel basketball. I'll probably coach him
when it's the third grades. He's playing third and fourth grade.
He's in third grade. But I only get onto him
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about his attitude. The only thing I get onto him
now when he when he was pitching this past weekend
and he thought he threw a strike and it wasn't
a strike, and he gives a look to the umpire.
I was like, no, dude, we're not doing that. Just pitch,
just play. When a teammate messes up, he doesn't blame
anybody else, He doesn't point any any fingers about it,
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doesn't do any of that stuff. And the Giants haven't
been able to corral him, haven't been able to control him.
Haven't found any sort of mentor that he listens to
on this football team. And if Brandon Marshall is supposed
to be that guy, well he ain't doing a good
enough job. But do I let him walk now? I mean,
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this is just this is kind of wide receiver one
oh one right wide receivers act out. Coaches seem to
be bothered by it. Fans are bothered by it, but
you know what, you catch a cup more touchdown passes
and we let it pass. I just thought it was
a stupid celebration, that's all. And I wish they would
have given him. I wish they would have given him
a flag for a stupid celebration. Be sure to catch
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live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. He's r J. Bell. The
website is pregame dot com. He joins us every week
at this time on The Doug Gotlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Huh, I'm sorry, Oh, I'm sorry. Let's uh,
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let's get to it. Wait till I give my money? Right?
Are you tired of losing money every week? Do you
want to be in the know? Well, we might not know,
but Vegas always knows, all right, My bad? I I
butchered that awesome open a man video worked on that
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like night and day, like big bags under his eyes,
and I completely butchered. R J. Bell joins us here
on The Doug Gotleap Show. What does Vegas know? What
do the sharp snow? Let's start one of the great
rivalries in the Nastal Football League. UM, not as much
recently because the Raiders haven't been would until uh this
past year year and a half or so. But Raiders Broncos,
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Broncos tremendous at home first two weeks of the season.
Laid an egg on the road in Buffalo. But so
too did the the Raiders when they were on the
road in Tennessee to open the season, and I was
suing not in Tennessee. They won in Tennessee in d C.
This past Sunday, as uh they want. They lost on
Sunday Night football to the Redskins. Alright, who are the
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sharp son as the Broncos are a two and a
half point favorite, Yeah this baby, Doug has moved up
to three now Denver favored by three. A lot of
professional money on the Broncos. It actually opened a one
point favor, so one to one and a half to
two and a half all the way to three, mostly
sharp money. Usually before game day, it's almost all sharp money.
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Most recreational batters. You know, they'll start betting a little
on Friday and Saturday, but it's really Sunday the recreational
guys step in prior to that a lot of professional
act shin. I was so confused by the Raiders last
week because if you look at Tennessee and how they've
looked since that Raiders game, it really makes you think, Wow,
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what a win in Tennessee the Raiders had in week one,
and they looked really good in Week two, and then
to not only lose, but to lose with the offensive
line struggling, which is probably the strongest position group for
the Raiders. It's caused their real reevaluation with Oakland could
be an aberration, could be assigned as something, you know,
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more trouble. But right now the Raiders are a question
mark in Vegas and there's more money for sure on Denver.
Gonna be fascinating to see if the Raiders can kind
of turn this thing around after that embarrassing performance. Of course,
part of it is three of their first four games
on the road. Uh that that that limits any teams,
all right? The Rams, who had an extra couple of
(39:53):
days to rest coming up a high scoring win over
the San Francisco forty Niners, take on a Cowboys to
team that played on Monday Night Football, So short week
for the Cowboys. Cowboys playing at home, Rams up front
seven has always been well respected and though the though
the Cowboys end up blowing out the Cardinals late in
that game, was tied heading into the fourth quarter. Um,
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give me a sense of what Vegas knows about Rams.
Cowboys a six and a half point favorite of the Pokes.
Another big money game, and it's been all Rams money.
This baby opened. Rams a nine point underdog that all
the way down to six. That takes big money to
bet from nine to six. This Rams. It's a tale
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of two teams compared to last year. So we'll be
talking about net yards per play all season. It's the
wise guy's favorite stat because it takes out turnovers, It
takes out the pace of the game. Every time I
snapped the ball on offense, how many yards do I
gain when the opponent snaps the ball? How many yards
do we give up? That stat? That net is the
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the one key number wise guys love. Nineteen teams doug
are within a half a yard from last year's net
yards per play. The Rams are one of the handful
that aren't, and they're actually two yards better. No other
team in the league has improved by two yards when
it comes to net yards per play, so The question
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is is a an aberration, Is it a fluke over
a couple of weeks, or is it the new coach
McVeigh and just a whole different mentality. Right now, the
betters seem to think the Rams are a different team.
They have been bad heavily over the Cowboys, and it'll
be interesting to see if we overvalue that Thursday night
game against a Niners. Niners team is not very good,
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but a lot of chunk plays, which of course helped
with that. Stets real quick, Doug. I'm starting to erup,
but a lot of people are asking what about a
Monday night team playing a Thursday night team? Right? So
short week versus long week. We've got thirty instances since
nine in the day to base the team with short rest,
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So that's the Cowboys here thirteen and seventeen against the spread.
So it does seem to have a small effect, though
a small sample size. Alright. Steelers Ravens. Steelers disappointing lost
on the road, uh to the Chicago Bears. Ravens come back,
They're coming back. I'm sure there's numbers on teams coming
back from London, especially without a buy, and I'm not
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sure how many of them mentally even made the trip
to London with that no show performance against the Jaguars.
The Ravens are a home dog against the Steelers, both
teams coming off a loss. What do you make of
that line? You're set up? Reminds me of the famous
Seinfeld line. Cramer was moving to California and they said
when you're moving and he said, in my mind, I'm
already there. But here's what I'll say, talk about history
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with no boy. There's one team in history that's played
after London without a buy, and that was the Colts
last year. They covered the spread and I actually bet
against him because I thought it was a big miss egg.
Now two teams this week playing without a buy. You know,
we'll see what the effect is because the one game
doesn't tow us too much. Here's the question, and you know, I,
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I know you love to talk about things that aren't obvious. Dog,
how much of an effect do you think the political
the President Trump distractions had on teams last week? I
personally think Pittsburgh and Seattle specifically were very much affected.
And do you think there's any effect this week? I
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don't know. I mean, the Pittsburgh thing is weird with
Big Ben saying he thought he was whish he was
out there not sleeping Sunday night. He said, yeah, I'm
not sure I buy that. Or if you're not's not sleeping,
it's not sleeping, not because you know that he didn't
go out and salute the flag. I just I gotta Ben,
you're super into the flag. Villan Auava, of course actually
served in the army, was the one guy out there
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like there's something that's unsettled about this locker room. But look,
some locker rooms are better when there's dysfunction. They just are.
And not just Steelers, not Steeler fans. I'm just not
only I just think at some point we have to here.
Here's one big thing that I'll be interested to see
how it plays out. That oh four quarterback class Philip
Rivers looks close to being washed Is a chance Ben
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Roethlisberger's washed up? Like he wasn't good last week twenty
two of thirty nine. He was not good. He hasn't
been good on the road for like three seasons. Okay,
So at some point do we go like, hey, maybe
these guys who we always think are good other time
has caught up with them. In their in their mid thirties.
I think that's a possibility. But like, look, if we're
gonna say that the politics and what what distracted the
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Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, why wind't it had distracted the Baltimore
Ravens who were involved in while they were playing abroad,
And maybe it did, right, because who knows? And that's
the thing. Every week, half the teams are gonna fall
shorter expectation because they're gonna lose against the spread, which
is by definition expectations. So to me, I think you
can reverse engineer stuff to make it make sense in
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your mind. But knowing the Steelers, and you know Colin
has talked about this, these emotional teams like Pittsburgh, like Seattle,
tend not to do as well early in the year.
They tend not to do as well on the road.
And both Seattle and Pittsburgh that's been the case, and
both I mean, from what I heard, Seattle had a
four hour meeting before the game against Tennessee about how
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to handle this. That cannot not be a distraction. So
the last thing I'll say on this game, though, don't
get trapped by road favorites because they always seem short,
here's a good exercise if you flip home to home.
So if Pittsburgh word home in this game, it would
be a six point flip. So Pittsburgh would be a
nine point favorite. So the fact they're favored by three
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on the road at Baltimore is a sign that this
Pittsburgh team is considered to be much much better than Baltimore. Right,
Colts are a thirteen point dog in Seattle, and the
Coats coming up their first win of the year, granted
was over the Browns. The Seahawks has not been impressive.
You know, they couldn't dust off the Niners. Uh. They
got a big drop on second down hurt the Niners.
Otherwise Niners might have made that thing go to overtime. Uh.
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And just the Seahawks haven't been able to protect. But
the Colts are at a talent deficiency. Can the Seahawks
win by two touchdowns at home? I think they can?
I would lean though, obviously Coats. Um. Here's what I
would say is I think the analog the analogous game
for this game is off the green Bay loss Week one,
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Seattle hat San Fran at home. You mentioned it, you
would think we've got to make a statement after losing
to Green Bay, they scored twelve points. This offensive line
is so bad. I don't know if it gets fixed.
I don't know if it's just motivation, and I think
it it affects more than just how much better are
you per snap, let's say, than the other team, But
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I think it affects Seattle's willingness with big leads. Let's say,
let's say they're up ten with with six minutes left,
and Seattle has the ball in their own thirty five.
Typically they would put the stay in the heart, get
the touchdown and make it seventeen and cover the spread.
But do they really put Russell Wilson expose him to
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pass rush in that spot? Or do they play conservative
and kick save Russell Wilson from taking a hit or
two perhaps, but now not cover the spread. So for me,
I I'm scared of pro set on the road in Seattle,
you know, for a his first road start. I think
if I'm not mistaken, if, but otherwise I would really
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like the Colts here um the Panthers trying to taking
on the Patriots. We know that New England struggle with
the with the Texans last week another home game for
the Pats. I don't think the Panthers very good. They
don't have Greg Olson. Calvin Benjamin did return to practice,
but he's all banged up. Uh. And Cam Newton has
been bad. I mean, he just hasn't been good. Tuck
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me off this ledge. If I'm a Panther fan, I can't.
I'm probably shoving you off because Cam had two pass
here's the only possible hope. Cam had two paths asses
in the preseason. They didn't play him. So the theory is,
and you hear Belichick talk and you gotta hey, I
listen to every syllable Belichick says when it comes to football,
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is September is like an extension of the preseason because
there's just less time with the new agreement with the union.
If that's the case, and you have Cam miss in
the preseason, then maybe you can make the case he
needs even a couple more weeks to get ready and
then he'll be better. The question is what's the record
at that point of Carolina. Here's a stat I put
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together just for you, Douga, I know your high i
Q approach to radio. The Pats have the worst yards
per play defense in the NFL. Right Now they're giving
up seven point one yards every time the opponent snaps
the ball. Now, the thirty first team is given it
up six point eight, Okay, so it's close. The thirtieth
team is given up six point two. So literally, the
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Patriots are fourteen percent worse then the thirty best team
on defense. There's never been a team across the season
that's given up seven yards per play. This so far
has been the worst defense in history. Though it's only
a three game sample size, so the Pat's favored by
almost double digits with that bad of a defense. If
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you do like the Pads batting with the over because
I don't think they can stop anyone right now, that's
r J Bell. Check him out at pregame dot com.
We'll listen to him on Fox Sports Trading on both
Friday and Saturday night. R J, great stuff, incredible information.
Really appreciate you joining us. Thank you duck Little straight
out of Vegas for you
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