Why Tanking Works

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Boom, What Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
It works. It's ugly, but it works. Welcome into the
Doug Gottlieb Show. We got an outstanding show for you
here on Fox Sports Radio. Three times Super Bowl champion
Mark stink Shlaith will be my guest up coming in

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about fifteen minutes. We'll ask him about the difference between
Whenz and Uh Kirk Cousins and whether or not this
means Kirk Cousins won't be the quarterback of the Redskins
in years to come. Then, seven time All Star in
World Series champion, four times Silver Slug Award winner Matt
Holiday will join us next hour in the show, will
get his thoughts on the World Series, which opens up

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tonight on Fox. Plus. Steve Stacks will join us in
the two o'clock hour. He, of course the World Series
champion twice over with the l A Dodgers. So we
get some baseball, We got some football. I got some
basketball thoughts for you. My thoughts on Steph Curry not
receiving a suspension that he probably deserved and why he
deserves to not be suspended even though his his actions

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deserve a suspension might be confusing. I'll explain it to
you later on the hour. A bunch of things to
get to, but let me start with this. It's ugly,
but it works. Taking works, taking works. If you don't
believe me, I give you the two thousand seventeen Houston Astros.
Do you remember two thousand thirteen. The two thousand thirteen

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Astros were arguably the worst team in the history of
the sport. Their overall payroll was twenty six million dollars. Now, look,
you might think, well, we gotta adjust. I'm not adjusting
to inflation or everything. All of their players combined to
make twenty six million dollars, and at the time they

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were over they were over fourteen players making more money
than all of the Astros on their major league roster combined.
They were fifty one and one eleven. Let me repeat
that for a second. They were fifty one and on

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and out of that came George Springer. Out of that
came Alex Bregman. Out of that came Carlos Correa. Out
of that came Lance mccolors. All first round picks, all
because the Houston Astros were tanking. Now in baseball, you
can only tank, but also make money. Remember uh, luxury

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tax pays out everybody. Plus they were soaring TV revenues
because even though they weren't drawing flies on their local network,
still you still make money on sub fees and on sponsorships.
And they made an estimated nine million dollars in profit
that year, so financially it was win. But more than anything,

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when you watch the Houston Astros, you understand why the
dream is rightfully alive for the Philadelphia seventies six ers,
and why the Cleveland Browns and San Francisco forty nine
are are better off losing instead of winning games late.
They just are. I mean, I don't think the Jaguars
have been tanking for the last decade. But the big

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reason that the Jaguars are good this year is not
because suddenly Blake Bortles is good. It's they just have
too many good players. You're drafting the top five for
a decade straight, and you're you're going your hit rate
is going to be even if it's fifty, you're gonna
have five good players, five big time players. But when
you watch the Astros, who are arguably the best team

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in the sport, and look would they have gotten here
had they not made the move for Justin Verlander. Probably not.
By the way, Justin Verlander, I don't know if you
know this was a product of the sec He was
the second overall pick from the Detroit Tigers. Do you
know how the Tigers got that pick? They tanked back

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in two thousand three. They were arguably the worst team
of that decade, and the Tigers got Justin Verlander. And
the rest is in fact history now that the Tigers
also spent a ton of money to surround Justin Berlanda
with a bunch of players, and that's how they had
a bunch of success and got to a World Series. Yes,
you gotta be lucky and you gotta evaluate. Well, that's

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how they got Jose Altuve, who was an undrafted free agent.
Undrafted free agent talk about the greatest stories in the
history of sport. We talked about Tony Romo all the time.
Tony Romo was never an NFL m v P. Al
Toba is going to be the a O m v P.
He was an undrafted free agent and he is a
member of the Lollipop Guild. That's a Wizard of Oz reference.

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I don't know how many of you got the Wizard
of Oz reference. Rama's you got the Wizard of Oz reference,
didn't you? Of course? Of course, of course I did.
When you watch the Astros, just remember tanking works and
it's ugly business, right they get Did you know that
in two thousand thirteen their local ratings Remember national ratings

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for baseball have been down for the last bunch of years, right,
so very very provincial sport. The teams in your area
you care about. You don't care about the national spectrum,
but locally these teams make a ton of money because
their ratings are huge. Did you know that the Houston
Astros got a blue Tarski a zero point zero locally,

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and yet they still made money. It's ugly. People talked
about how can you how can you put a product
out there where you spent six million dollars? Nobody went
to the games, nobody watched the games, nobody cared, and
yet all they it's ugly. You know what, here's what
it reminds me of politics, politics, um ramos. You remember

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what brought down John Kerry. John Kerry was a presidential
candidate and he lost to President Bush, George H. Herbert
Walker Bush. Do you remember what What brought him down
as a candidate, I want to say had something to
do with his service in the Vietnam War CORECT. He
was supposedly in some sort of platoon and he wasn't.

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He won. This is a decorated war hero. He won
the Silver Star, he won the Bronze Star, he won
three Purple Hearts, he won a Combat Action ribbon. Um.
So here's somebody who actually served in Vietnam, and what
happened was like most war stories, I'm sure it didn't

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go down exactly the way the history books would lead
you to believe, right. I mean, look, we're guys, we're guys.
You hit a beautiful tea shot. I'm sure you didn't
hit it three yards, even though you told your buddies,
I hit it three yards. I'm sure when you went
closest to the pin, you didn't tap in from two
inches out when you caught a fish. It's not this big,

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it's more this big. Guys over exaggerate. So I'm sure
I'm sure that the story of John Kerry, which one
in three pup Purple Hearts and Silver Star, Bronze Star
Combat Actions, I'm sure some of that was oversold, right,
morale was terrible for the Vietnam War, and when you

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had a decorative war hero, you oversold the stories. So
in the process of running for election, running for election
for the president United States against somebody who had served
only in the Texas Air National Guard. That's our former president,
so we hadn't actually served in actual combat, they launched

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the swift Boat campaign. The swift Boat campaign basically said, like, hey,
all that stuff you heard about John Carey not true.
Now we don't know exactly what went down, but the
idea was that you're planting seeds of doubt. It's ugly
negative politics. Here we are shooting down a war hero who,
by the way, came back and protest the war because

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he didn't feel good about what he was being told
to do. And you know what, it worked. It's no
different than uh, this last national election. Do you remember
at the Democratic National Convention I believe it was the
first Lady of the United States who uh who said

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Michelle Obama who said, when when they go low, we
go high. In other words, when they go negative politics,
we go positive. How they work out? Negative politics are
ugly ugly. You find one thing about somebody that maybe
twenty years in the past, something they may have personally

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rehabilitated from, something they likely apologize ten times over four
and you blow it up into something that says this
is who the person is. Hey, man, if you picked
the worst moment of any of our lives, I think
all of us would look bad. Last time I checked.
There are no perfect but it works, damn right, it works.

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And tanking is the exact same way. The Philadelphia seventy
sixers have been the laughing stock, the absolute laughing stock
of the NBA for the past three or four years.
But you watch him with Ben Simmons, you're watch him
with Joel Embid, and you have to have a little
bit of luck, Like they're actually lucky that Ebid was

(09:27):
hurt as much as he was hurt, because they probably
wouldn't have gotten Simmons, and Simmons was hurt, so it
allowed him a year like a red shirt year last year,
and that's why he's better off. But you know what
tanking works well. Jacksonville Jaguars are gonna go to the
playoffs this year. They don't have a very good quarterback,
they don't have some profound offensive philosophy or whatever. They

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just got good enough players that they've accumulated over a
decade of ineptitude. The Niners are trying to do the same.
The Browns are trying to do the same. The Browns
just keep missing on quarterbacks, but they're trying to do
the same. They're gutting it, and they're starting from scratch,
and they're loading up on draft picks, and they're starting young,
and they're gonna lose, and eventually they're gonna win. How

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do I know they're gonna win? Look, I don't know.
It's absolutely gonna work. It didn't work for the Celtics,
who tanked and didn't get Tim Duncan instead got Antoine
Walker and Walter McCarty back when Rick Pettino was their coach.
But there is hope that tanking absolutely works. And if
you don't believe me, I give you Tonight's Houston Astros,
who just four years ago one one hundred and eleven

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games had twenty six million dollars of overall payroll, got
a zero point zero on their local ratings, and out
of that gave them George Springer, Alex Bregman, Carlos Carea,
Lance mc colors. I oh yeah, By the way, Dallas
Kaiko was the seventh round pick. All of those came
from the fact that they tanked tanking works. Don't believe me,
I'll give you the Houston Astros. Tonight, Mark Slayer joins

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us upcoming next. Last night was really interesting. We have
car Crown Carson ents the greatest quarterback of all time,
but he was good. I'm not like I'm am all
in on wins. But are we seeing the ceiling of
Kirk Cousins right before our eyes? It's funny because he
actually looked really good against the Raiders versus Derek Carr,
And yet everybody's forgotten that are we Are we prone

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to hyperbole based upon what we've seen last or realistically,
have we seen the best of Kirk Cousins? Will ask
a former Redskin and any through three times Super Bowl champ.
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Doug Gotlieve Show, Fox Sports Radio you know, I actually

(12:47):
have a personal question for our next guest. Um, I
am going to tonight's World Series Game one at Dodger
Stadium at Chevez Ravine. Sorry music, sorry Ramos, Uh sorry,
Dan Buyer Uh. Not taking you guys. I'm taking my son, um.
And like, there's a lot of reasons. One, he's a
baseball player, loves baseball. To he's my son, right that.

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I don't know how to explain that. Three last time
I went to a World Series, I did not go No.
Two in my team, the Angels one. I'll tell that
story later, Um, But last time I went was eight
Game two with my father at Dodger Stadium. Neither us
for Dodger fans. But it's the World Series. So here's
the question. I just got via text from my wife,

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and I think there's only one answer to this. But
maybe we'll ask stink Mark Slayer at three times Super
Bowl champion, whose son playing the Bigs? Stink Um, My
wife just asked me should my son bring his glove?
What's the proper answer? Yeah, your son's young, right, yeah,
always right, Yeah, of course he should bring his gloup.

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Now if you bring your gloves, why why? What if? What?
If I'm in a and I'm in I'm in the
lose section, which we'll get some foul balls. But it's
not like um in in those kind of those those
that stinger area right where they come off sharp off
your glove and you gotta you've gotta have heads up.
Uh Do you think less of me if I bring
my glove? I know, well, yes, I think any time

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an adult if you just look a little goofy. But
I you know, I there are certain areas of baseball,
you know, in baseball where you're sitting where you gotta be.
You gotta be on top of things. You know, you
gotta be sharp, you gotta be paying attention. But yeah,
I love the kids to bring me golf, you know
I love that. Alright, good enough if you say it's okay,
that's okay. I'm not bringing my glove, although I I

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definitely actually stopped, paused and thought about Mark Slaver's joining
us UM last night the Philadelphia Eagles. The defensive front
looks really impressive, and Carson Wentz looked really impressive. Let's
let's start with cousins, though there are many that believe
we're seeing because he hasn't performed well in prime time.
We're seeing the ceiling of Kirk Cousins. Is that a
fair assessment? I know, I don't think it's a fair assessment.

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I mean, I think look at you look at just
this year alone. I mean, how many they basically ousted
all his wide receivers. You know, they took the weapons
away from him. I've always I've always been a Kirk
Cousins fan. I think Kirk Cousins is an outstanding quarterback.
And you know, is he one of the upper echelon guys?
Is he? Is he a guy that you know, might

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you know, might crack into that kind of elite category.
Come on, there's three or four of those guys in
the league at any time anyhow, So, um, is he
good enough to to win a lot of games? He's
good enough to make a Super Bowl run if you
put a good team around him. I believe so. And
you know, I think it's one of those situations that
you look at you look at the situation, or you

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look at the quarterbacking that we have in this league.
There's only a few guys that can elevate a team
regardless of circumstance. You know, there's only a few guys
like a Rodgers or Breeze or or Brady that can
sling a team on their back and throw its fifty
five times if need be, and still find a way
to win. There's a handful, there's four or five of

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those guys in the league at any given time. And
then you know, you hope you have that next tier
of quarterbacks that if you build around him and you
give him enough enough, you know, defensive enough of a
running game and enough good players around him that you
can be very competitive, competitive and have a chance to
win and win a championship. Is Carson Wentz one of
those guys. Carson Wentz is big time man. I just

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I've been so impressed with not only watching him, but
being around him calling a game. And it's more, you know,
it's it's above the next stuff that he does. You know,
it's athleticism, its size, it's the above the next stuff.
It's the leadership stuff. It's the entire package that is
Carson Wentz. That that sets him apart. The way the

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guys play for him, the way they respect him, all
those things are are very apparent. Um exceptionally gifted athletically
throwing the ball and um and running around and extending plays.
It's you know why he's the number one quarterback I
think in the league third down wise, because he's got
all those he's got all those tangible skill sets, but

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he's got the intangible stuff, the leadership stuff off the field.
The way he rallies the guys around him. Um, that
stuff is off the chain. You asked, and you talked
to any of their coaches, and they'll just tell you
the guys love playing with him, and and he's a
pretty special you know, especially guy. You can tell a
lot about people. Uh, there are some people that enter

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a room and energize the room when they enter it,
and there are some people that leave a room and
energize the room when they leave it. He enters the
room and it energizes the room. And that's the kind
of people you want to be around. Okay, So the
question becomes, they have the best record in the NFL.
How confident are you that they're actually the best team
in the NFL. I'm pretty confident that they are. They are.

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I mean, I wouldn't have any issues putting them right
now as we sit as the best team in the league.
I'm worried about Jason Peters. Jason Peters being hurt and
out for the rest of the year. Um, they had
the two best book and offensive tackles in football. I
don't know if they're gonna try to uh take Lane
Johnson and move them over to left tackle or not.

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But but that scares me a little bit because they
are so gifted at the tackle position. But still with
that said, they dominate the line of scrimmage. Carson Wentz
extends plays and does his thing defensively. They didn't even
they haven't even been healthy defensively, and they've been pretty good.
Fletcher Cox is dominating the line of scrimmage. They're really,

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they're really football team. I wouldn't have any hesitation at
all saying they're the best team in football. Um, there's
a few teams that are chasing him. The Patriots seemed
to be getting their stuff together too as well, But
I wouldn't It wouldn't bother me to say that they're
number one team with football right now. I need some
help with something explained to me the a f C.
East Like I came in with the idea that Buffalo
was playing for the draft and redo things. I came

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in with the idea that the Jets were almost tanking,
and the question would be would they tank with this
current coaching stafford change coaching staff. I came in with
the idea that the Dolphins were pretty good, but man,
once they lost their quarterback, that that setting back. And
now I'm looking and I don't know, they're not. I
don't feel like any of those teams are great, but
they're all a lot better and a lot more competitive

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than I thought. And the Bills are sitting there at
four and two with some good wins. How do we
all miss on the A F C. East Well, I
think there's a couple of things. I think that it
just goes to show you how bad the rest of
the league is. Um and and I just think that
at this point in time, it's not real competitive. I
think if you come out and you're sharp early in

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the league, you can steal a couple of wins when
teams haven't, when teams just aren't ready to play yet.
UM So, I think that's part of it. I think
that they finally put an offense in Buffalo together that
really accentuates the skill set of Tyrod Taylor. Um. You know,
a lot of zone wide hand dolf zone, right zone,

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left boot, keep stuff, get him outside the pocket um
and not so much to run, but get him outside
the pocket to throw it and create you know, a
half a dozen to a dozen really easy reads and
easy completions. I've always thought that he was a great
deep ball thrower from the pocket, but I thought, you know,

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his size limited him in the pocket at times. And
I always felt like, the guy is smart. The guy's athletic,
use his athleticism not so much to run so that
he can get hurt, but uses athleticism to give him
easier reads just simply from a height disadvantaged standpoint. Rick Dennison,
the new offensive coordinator there, has brought in Gary Kubiak system.

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They were together in Baltimore when Tyrod Taylor was in Baltimore.
It's just been a really good marriage and a really
good fit for the Buffalo bill So I think that's
one of the reasons that they've excelled there in Buffalo
so well. Here early in the season, three times your
Bowl Champion, Fox NFL analysts Mark Larry joining us on
the Doug Gottlip Show. Okay, let's go to the a
f C West, which the Chargers, who couldn't finish games

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early year, are finishing them now, Raiders up and down
all over the map. Chiefs were the last undefeated team.
Now they've lost two in a row. And then you
have the Broncos, the team you cover on a daily
basis on your radio show. They just they have no
offense and it allows such a slight margin Frere that
when special teams gives up a touchdown as it did Sunday,

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or defense eventually lets down. Give me your take on
the NFC a f C West to which I cannot
figure out how many playoff teams are gonna have and
if any of these teams are actually any good. Yeah,
I mean I think they're all fatally flawed. I think
San Diego is finally you know, I mean they finally
have played you know, pretty well here of of recent

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they're they're running the ball better. Uh. Gordon seems to
be getting stronger. You know, he had that offseason knee surgery, microfracture.
He didn't have his in he didn't have any recoverability,
so so you know, and and just just pure like
kind of juice. He just didn't have any of that
going early in the season. I think he's gotten a
little bit better. I think they've developed in their passing game.

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They're really starting to try to push the ball more
to Hunter Henry Um. Antonio Gates is you know, Antonio
Gates is a Hall of Famer, but he just can
get zero separation anymore. So they've kind of morphed into
a little bit something different offensively. Defensively, Um, they really
struggled tackling, just tackling early in the season. But they're

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two defensive ends. That's the whole build of their team, right.
They have to forget forget the stadium being three quarters full,
get at the other stuff. They have two of the
elite defensive ends in in the game. There there is
no question. And so they you know, they they have
found a way to kind of play to their strength. Uh.

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The Raiders, you know is as long as is Derek
carr Is is flinging it, Raiders got a chance to
be in every game. You know, does they know they're
gonna give up thirty but you know, if if offensively,
if they catch the football of Amari Cooper catches the
football and and car plays the way he played the
other night against Kansas City, they got a chance to

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be in every single game. Um, Kansas City is is
unique offensively, They've got some weapons that are really hard
to contend with. They have not all season. I talked
about this when they were undefeated, the two fatal flaws.
They don't protect the quarterback very well. He just doesn't
turn it over, but he does get hit and he
does get sacked, and they don't defend the run at all.

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And uh, those two fatal flaws at times now that
that didn't catch him. It was the past. It was
the passing game of of Derek Carr that beat up
the Kansas City Chiefs on Thursday night. But but still
they've got a couple of fatal flaws and the Broncos,
you know, for it's on multiple years now. Um, they
can't block anybody. And I keep hearing their coach talk about, hey,

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you know, we've got a formula here. We gotta run
the ball and we've got to control that that that
running games so that we can have our play action
passing game workout. And and then every time they lose,
they let their quarterback throw at forty six fifty times,
you know, thirty times. It's just just like you say
one thing, but you panick into doing another and that

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defense is good enough that a two score game isn't
really a two score game when you when you have
Denver's defense. You know. But but they still, I mean,
every week I'm talking about the same thing. They panick,
They talk about their formula and then they don't want
to secure to their formula, and and it's it's frustrating
to watch it happen. But that's kind of where they
are right now. So I'm with you. I thought three

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teams were gonna come out of the a f C West,
and I think, uh, the way it currently stands, you'd
be lucky to get two teams out of the FC West.
How much of the Atlanta falcons lack of offense do
we blame on the offensive coordinator? I think you gotta
put the majority of it on there. You've got right,
the same players. There's just no rhythm between play caller

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and the guys who have to execute the place. It
just seems like there. And remember when when Chahan took
over the first year, there were a lot of people
are saying, Hey, this isn't this offense isn't a fit
for Matt. Ryan's just doesn't work. And then all of
a sudden they put up these historic type of run.
They went on and they were great, and now they've
got the same players and they've tried to institute the

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same system. Um And and Stark, Steve Starhisian like adopted
that language. And yet there just is something that's not
that's amiss. There's something that's not clicking. There's a lack
of rhythmic nature. Um And maybe it's concepts. You're not
stacking concepts on top of concepts, and you're not setting

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plays up very well. So it just feels to me
like it's we're just calling place for the sake of
calling plays as opposed to calling this play on this
particular second down because you know you're gonna get a
third down in your next series that you're gonna get
them on. And there seems to be none of that
forward thinking to the play calling between Sark And and

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the execution of Matt Ryan in that offense. Right. That's
the voice of Mark Slayraty you may have seen on
First Things First, you'll hear him on the NFL on
Fox and kind of to join us every week here
on the Doug gottlie Show. Stank, thanks so much for
joining us. You gotta tell you'll talk to you next week.
All right, let's go to Dan Buyer. See what else
is going on in the world of sports. Dan, it
would you don't have a son, you bring your son

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brings a glove to the game. But like you go
to the World Series, do you bring a glove? No, No,
not at all. Why well, I'd first of all rather
have concessions in my hands than a piece of leather.
But but yeah, just easier, let the kid do it.
There's no there's no reason. Plus you'd want to grab
one bare handed, right and look like a stud if

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you get a fall ball, yeah, but you'll absolutely catch it.
If you have a glove, I'd rather make like everybody's
I catch it in my hands. There's a reason that
they use gloves in baseball, right, Yeah, this is this
is my just this is this is my sister telling
me about uh natural childbirth. Right right. When I asked her, like,

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did you have no drugs, She's like, would you have
a root canal with without novacaine? Of course you're gonna
have drugs if you're gonna have a baby come out
in the middle of you. Right. It's the same thing
with baseball. Like, would you prefer to catch a baseball
coming at the exit velo being in the nineties to
a hundred miles an hour plus with a glove? Oh
your bare hands? Like, oh, be a man, catch your

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bare hands. I just honestly think it's really weird about
adults where it gloves. The games way more weird when
adults wear jerseys with other people's names on Them's mind.
For me, it's all it's all a mess. Uh, gonna
be a hot one tonight. We're all pretty familiar with it.
When it's when it's warm here, the ball travels really well,
and when it's cold and the grass is wet, usually

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it tends to not travel as good. So uh, looks
like the next couple of days, Uh, the ball is
probably gonna be jumping pretty good. That was just the
turner of the Dodgers getting set for Game one tonight,
nine seven degrees the tap at first bitch. You can
see it on Fox. It's game one of the Fall
Classic Astros and Dodgers come Jest starts at seven thirty
Dallas Kiko against Clayton Kershaw Corey Seeger on the Dodgers

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World Series roster, while Curtis Granderson is not. Eagles left
tackle Jason Peters done for the year. The one game
suspension given a Raiders running back Marshawn Lynch Doug was upheld,
so he will miss this Sunday's game against the Buffalo Bills.
I didn't think that one would have been overturned, but
just finalized today the appeal failed. Marshawn won't play against
his former team. That's Dampire. I want to ask Dampier

(28:41):
if it's something else here. Um, are you familiar with
with the term earthquake weather? I've heard of it, but
I don't necessarily know what it means. Okay, so not really.
So look again, I grew up in southern California, and
my mom grew up in Connecticut, Bridgeport, Connecticut, to be exact,
and we made our way out here. Now she's kind

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of an old lady, and so it's kind of an
old people. Theory actually goes back to the fourth century.
Aristotle proposed that earthquakes were caused when winds got trapped
in subterranean caves. It was hot and then got calm
right before earthquakes. But there are many people that believe.
Though there are notes there there's no science to prove
it that this type of weather during this type of

(29:24):
year leads to earthquakes. So when I talked to my
mom today, she didn't. She said, well, make sure that
haz is my son. Make sure Hayes has water, And
did you know this is earthquake weather earthquake WEA, it's
good to know. I live closer to the Santa Dreia's
fault than any of you guys, so maybe, uh yeah,

(29:45):
get the get the worst of it. Um music have
you are you familiar with earthquake weather. I had no
idea that was the thing. It's a common earthquake mix.
I'm sure Ramis has heard of it, of course. Yes.
There's also the deal where your your your dog and
cats freak out right before in an earthquake, right it's
their their behavior becomes erratic, feel like the vibrations or

(30:08):
what or what or what? Well, there's there's waves that
come out when there's earthquake, waves that start before the
actual earthquake. That's actually a a true theory, whereas the
earthquake weather is more hypotheses. Um anyway, Um. There's also
the belief that California could fall into the sea because

(30:28):
of an earthquake. Um, there could be landslides, and there
could be some some areas close to the coast that
could that could be filled with water because their man
made or whatever, or their dredged land or whatever. But
you will not fall into the water. It will not
if there was an earthquake. So look, there's common misconception.

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It's a well known hypothesis that earthquakes occur because of
the weather outside, where there is no correlation between the two.
There's no correlation. There is a correlation between off court,
off field behavior and on court suspensions. Case in point,
Steph Curry. Some of the sports world, like my brethren

(31:12):
here at Fox Sports, Nick Wright Colin Cowherd, are almost
appalled at the fact that Steph wasn't suspended for throwing
his mouthpiece in the direction of an official a couple
of nights ago. Instead was fine fifty Now, I thought
I thought that he would be suspended. I did, and
I just thought the idea um of suspending him was like, look, man,

(31:38):
you do it twice, you throw a hissy fit in
that way. I don't know. And Steph Curry to actually said,
I was kind he was kind of surprised that it
was even fifty dollars, right, So for for us, we're like,
I kind of thought he'd be suspended instead it was

(31:59):
he was, he was fine, fifty dollars, but stuff clearly
through the mouthpiece in the direction of official, And it
was because they felt like they were getting the bad
end of the officiating in Memphis the other night in
a loss. And so that I've I've heard all kinds
of well, you know, if it was Boogie Cousins. Look,
if it was Boogie Cousins and they and he threw

(32:20):
his mouthpiece, sure there will be some confirmation bias in it.
We think Boogie Cousins is a bad guy, So when
Boogie Cousins does bad guys stuff, we punish him for
being a bad guy. But a lot of it is
you've established a reputation on a daily basis, and when
you get punished, you don't necessarily get punished for the act.
You get punished for the whole thing, right, You get

(32:41):
punished for everything, Yet they simply kind of compone you
for something as nominal as throwing your mouthpiece. And my
point of Steph Curry getting the benefit of the doubt
is he's earned the better for the doubt. He's earned
the benefit the doubt, like somebody who has carried himself

(33:03):
a class and dignity off the basketball floor while achieving
superstardom on the basketball floor deserves the benefit of the doubt.
It doesn't have to do simply with being a star.
It more has to do with being a star and
purporting yourself the right way. If you think Steph Curry
is the first star to throw a fit after getting

(33:23):
a call to not go their way, I'll give you
Tim Duncan, I'll give you Lebron James, I'll give you
Kobe Bryant. And the reason Lebron gets to benefit of
the doubt, the reasons Steph Curry get the benefit of
the doubt is because off the floor there are no
marks against them, so all you have to go by
is that and a couple of times overreacting to calls

(33:47):
on the floor. In other words, I agree, I understand,
And it has nothing to do necessary with likability. It
has to do with the fact that, uh, they have
created equity, positive equity, and when you do something guess silly,
is overreacting for your mouthpiece. Get cash in some of
that positive equity. That's what you do one of the
chances of the World Series MVP is a picture. I'll

(34:07):
tell you next what True Car. You can find out
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Fox Sports Radio. You know it's funny. The Detroit Pistons
are struggling. They have a brand new arena downtown Detroit,
and they can't get anybody to go to the arena.
It's it's one of those things were on paper, it
looks like such a great idea, like, all right, downtown arena,

(34:29):
revitalized downtown Detroit. But here's the thing. Nobody wants to
be in downtown Detroit on a weekday night. There's a
reason nobody lives there. Oh Man, I was playing professional
basketball in Israel, Okay, in the Middle East, during the
height of Indefada. I came back. I was playing with
a team in the A B A out of Phoenix.

(34:50):
Our first game was that I joined. The team was
on the road in Detroit against the Detroit Dogs. Playing
and staying in downtown Detroit. I was more frightened for
my own safety with my many dollars a day per
diem walking from the hotel to McDonald's in Detroit, that
it was at any point in time in Israel. That's
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game is, Oh, what are the chances with some World

(35:38):
Series flavor, Doug, what are the chances both starting pitchers
go past the sixth inning tonight where game time tempts
will be at nineties seven degrees at first pitch of
Game one, six innings tonight. Uh, let's see here, there's

(35:58):
a lot of factors. Goes past six innings? Yeah, six
of the third six and two thirds. He obviously he
struggled in the seventh inning, but you put Ego aside
and you hand it over to your bull and plus
it's gonna be hot. They'll be like, oh, it's really
hot out there. Huge fitzing. That's what I'm wondering about.

(36:19):
Do the do the Astros or Dodgers say, you know what,
maybe we don't want Kikl or Kershaw still in there.
Let's go to our bullpen something to watch tonight. Let's
stick with this picture theme. What are the chances Doug
that the World Series m v P is a picture O? Um?
What are the chances? I would say it is? Uh yeah,

(36:43):
I mean you have clich Kershaw, he'll get multiple starts,
the possibility of Verlander, he'll get multiple starts, or a
or a kaiko. Um do I think it should be
Probably not right because you're gonna have the Justin Turners
of the world. You're gonna have um, I mean, you
didn't you name then Carlos, Korea's you name jose Al TV.

(37:03):
But there's such big name pictures that if they shut
the other team down twice in their team wins, they're
gonna get it. Bovada has got some numbers on this.
Clinton Kershaw the favorite right now at eleven to two.
But then you've got L two at seven to one,
and Justin Turner also at seven to one. Kelly Jansen
actually at ten to one for the World Series Most
Valuable Player. I thought that was a little bit interesting.
Dallas Kiko at twelve to one, along with Carlos Korea,

(37:27):
Yasi L Pig, and Chris Taylor. Doug, what are the
chances that this series comes back to Los Angeles next week?
I think it's very good chance. The East Azers are
really these are two really good teams. I don't love
the Astro's bullpen. Nobody likes the Astros bullpen, but they've
been so good at home, and they're so dynamic hitting

(37:47):
the baseball. I'd have to think they'd win a couple.
Moving on to other matters, What are the chances Doug
that the Pittsburgh Steelers trade wide receiver Martavis Bryant prior
to next week's trade deadline? And I want to quit
fill in because I saw this time we go ahead.
The toime Mike Tomlin said that the team is not
going to trade him, but Briant maybe needs to mature some.

(38:08):
Of course, there was the social media post where Brian
said that he was better than Juju Smith Schuster than
deleted it, and then the reports last week, all of
that combining into this, Dug, I think it's actually better
than you think. I think it's more in the Do
I think that they want to trade him? Probably not.
They want him to be better, but somebody presents them
a good deal, needs that talent, and look they they've

(38:31):
committed to him, even through two lengthy suspensions here spending
all of last season. I think that's why they're most upset.
But if somebody wants to give you a pick and
you don't actually need him, well then you you trade him.
I find it interesting, as we talked about yesterday, the
Steelers offense may be different than what we've seen. I
just don't know what team would want to give up
something for a wide receiver with the red flags that

(38:53):
you pointed out. Finally, how about this one this from
the NBA, Doug, What are the chances that there will
be retaliation from the Mavericks on Warriors rookie Jordan Bell
the next time the two teams play for his off
the backboard dunk last night in the Golden State victory.
Five percent chance five percent chance. Uh. Look, I didn't
like it. I mean, I love that there was an

(39:14):
unbelievable movie. He didn't travel. I don't know why they
fouled him, and uh, you know, I mean he's got
freak athleticism. Steve Kerr actually went into Rick Carlisle and
said he apologized, like he's a rookie. I don't think
there'll be any sort of retaliation. Dallas isn't good enough
to retaliate. Yeah, that's the thing that I just I
don't know why teams get so offended when something like

(39:36):
this because you don't do it. It's just it's kind
of basketball code. It's like you don't press when you're
up twenty. You don't. You don't start clowning another team
with those type of dunks when you know late in
the game, just just you can dunk it. You don't
throw the ball at the backboard like that's that's the
stuff you doing that you just don't. Uh. I reward
the fans for sticking around to that garbage last night,
at least by the home team time on the Dug

(40:01):
Got Leave show. Yeah. Last game my college career, we
played Florida in the Elite eight, one of the players
dunked as the buzzer expired. We were letting them hold
the ball and duble it out And are our guys
that we were we wanted to fight, and we're like, look,
they beat us. There was nothing wrong with them beating
They were a better team than us that day. But
just the idea, like, what are you doing, dude? You
know that's that's classless. So that's why Steve Kerr and

(40:22):
and I know that Draymond liked it. I know that
Kevin Durant liked Anybody watched it thought it was an
incredible h incredible athleticism. But you just you don't do
it when the clock's running down, when you're cherry pick
and you're not getting back defensively. There's always a reason.
If you've ever wondered why a woman is single? Do
you ever wonder why the Redskins haven't paid Kirk Cousins.

(40:43):
It was on display yesterday next in the Dug Gotlip Show.
What Up? It's the Dug Otleave Show, Fox Sports Radio,
getting you ready for the World Series. A good friend
of mine, Matt Holiday from the New York Yankees, gonna
join us. A seven time All Star, four time sig
Silver Slugger or winner led League and hitting one year,
and of course it's won a World Series. He'll join us,

(41:04):
will get his will get his thoughts on the strows,
We'll get his thoughts on those lawyers, and we'll get
his thoughts on playing in the the World Series. Like what's
that like? Right? Like is it really? And how weird
is it to those of us who follow baseball like Astros,
like that used to be a Nation leagu West matchup.
There's just no way to get around it, and and wha,

(41:24):
no this we've been in the America like for years,
a couple of years, a couple of years. Um, my
takeaway is very simple. Tanking works. Astro's tanked loaded up
on all these young players, signed guys for long term
contracts early on their run. And then and think about it.
Had they they wanted Zach Britton before the trade deadline,

(41:45):
thought they were going to get him, helped their bullpen
didn't and that and then the waiver wire deadline, they
got ver Lander right before the waiver wire deadline, probably
wouldn't have gone after Verlander. Had they gotten Britain. My
me of a Garth Brooks song, it does Ramos is
laughing at me. You're laughing at me, Ramos. Yeah, I've

(42:06):
never been a Bill Garth Brooks fans. So but there's
a guy's a there's a Garth Brooks song. It's a
sappy one. Can I hit you with it? Of course
you can, Okay, It's uh. It's called Unanswered Prayers. You
familiar how it goes basically a tale of a guy
who know he's basically a guy. A tale of a

(42:26):
guy who goes to the local high school football game
and seize his old high school honey, and he remembers
back when he was in high school how he would
pray to God every night that they would stay together forever,
like it's a sappy country song whatever, and they didn't.
And they look at his wife and he's like, hey,
some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers. Pretty pretty

(42:49):
strong in it. It's actually really really strong. It's a
really well written song. So you may not like it
because it's a country song, because Garth and Garth is
kind of worth the top, cheesy or whatever. Darth's best
song is Shameless. Shameless is written by Billy Joel. It's amazing,
go look at the world shameless. You want to win
a girl, shameless would be my that's a good way.
That's a good way. Just hit it with shameless. It's

(43:10):
pretty good. But unanswered prayers is a really good and
that's the same. That's that's what Houston's basically living on. Right,
had they gotten Zack Britten, they probably wouldn't have gone
after Very Lander. If they didn't have very Lander, they
wouldn't be here today. Period, Stop, end of story. More
on that to come. Let's get to Uh, yeah, I've

(43:32):
said this about halle Berry before, right, Ali Berry is spectacular,
you know, like if you said, you know every every
married guy supposed whether you really have a list or
don't have a list, right, this is one of those
things to which married couples at some point go like, wolly,
what's your list? Right? Your list of your past list?

(43:53):
Like if somehow you're on a deserted island or you're
you know, one of these five people where they are
that if your significant other found out to be like,
you know, I'm supposed to be mad, but they're so
damn good looking. Yes, honey, you could sleep with Brad
Pitt if you saw Brad, if you and Brad pitt
were stuck on a deserted island. I just couldn't be bad.

(44:13):
He's on your list. Now. The truth to those lists
are that women would be able to get away with
what's on the list. Guys can never be able to
get because you'd say, like, uh, well, I just I
don't love this roast here, honey. Well maybe if halle
Berry cooked you the roast. WHOA, I thought Hallie Berry
was on my list. You can't even make a list

(44:34):
if you're a guy, let alone actually execute the list properly.
But um, look out real quick music. Halle Berry married
right now currently? I think the answer is no. And
I don't know anybody who doesn't think Hallie Berry is beautiful.
She's a wonderful voice. It's not like she's freeing dress away.

(44:56):
She alves device and always a math and get can't
take it. No. I know she got divorced in twenty sixteen.
I know she's been married to Oliver Martinez, to Eric Bennett,
and to David Justice. Martinez is the one who is
her her last ex husband. Right and by the way,

(45:17):
all those dudes are good looking dudes, like all of
them are like, man, they're probably gonna have ugly kids
because she's beautiful. By the way, she has two kids. Um,
I don't know if they're I think they're both and
they're they're actually studying little adorable little nuggets. Okay, But
there's like there's gotta be a reason there, Like she's

(45:40):
got to be crazy. There's got to be something there. Right,
There's always a reason, and it's the there's there's an expression,
your favorite, your favor you're you know the expression, right,
you see a beautiful woman, there's a guy who's tired
right music, you know this expression? I know exactly what

(46:00):
you're talking. Do you know the expression? Uh? If I did,
I probably wouldn't want to know, But you know, you
know what I'm talking about? No, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean do you actually know the expect words? And
when you every time you see a beautiful woman, just
know there's a guy who's tired of her. That's the
got it. That's actually an expression and the idea behind

(46:25):
it is like sometimes the more beautiful a woman, the
more they've been able to get away with, the more
personality quirks they might have. There's always kind of a reason, right,
There's it's the same in business or Colin Kaepernick, for example,
there's a reason Colin Kaepernick hasn't inside If you want
to say it's a protest, sure, but you also want

(46:46):
to say, like, he's never really been a leader. He
lost his job in San Francisco to begin with, even
after leading them to a super Bowl ANFC championship game. Like,
there's kind of always a reason and you're waiting for
that moment to pinpoint it, and maybe there's some comfort,
maation bias. You see it. It reaffirms what you thought.
I watched last night Kirk Cousins play against Carson Wentz,

(47:08):
and I like Kirk Cousins, and I would I would,
I would counter People would say he's never played he
hasn't won on Monday Night football, but he played well
on Sunday Night football. Ler this year when they played
against the the um Oakland Raiders, didn't he But the
the important takeaway is if you've ever wondered, why haven't

(47:32):
the Redskins signed him to a long term deal, why
don't they just just sign him, Just get it over with,
just do it. He threw for nearly five thousand yards
last year through for three hundred yards last night. Like statistically,
Kirk Cousins forty three yards, three touchdowns, one reception. His
quarterback rating was a hundred and ten point seven. His

(47:57):
quarterback rating was spectaculor his quarterback eating was actually better
than that of Carson Wentz. You know that Carson Wentz
only at eight only seventeen of did have one more touchdown,
four same number of interceptions, eight carries, sixty three yards
including that incredible Houdini. How do you get out of
that yard run? You guys know the run I'm talking about.

(48:19):
That's one that's gonna go down. NFL films hit Monday
Night Football History, one of the craziest escapes I've ever seen.
But if you watched, you thought Carson Wentz there's a
franchise quarterback. Kirk Cousins, there's just a quarterback. The juxtaposition
of watching one versus the other the exact same time

(48:41):
is pretty stark in comparison. We get it all the
time in college basketball when you see a really good
college basketball point guard and he's playing against the NBA player,
and you're like, oh, oh, that's why the that's why
the NBA scouts like this guy. So there's a reason

(49:03):
sometimes women are single. The reasons guys are single, like
I don't understand why why his wife didn't like him?
More like good provider, good hair, good smile, good teeth,
what's the deal. And they're like, all of a sudden,
you know, something doesn't go his way. He flips has
lit really bad temporar you're like, or super bad breath

(49:24):
or remember the movie Boomerang, Right, woman had really bad toes,
remember that one bad toads. Bad toes can be a
game changer, like oh, she's a whoa whoa hammer time.
Kirk Cousins is fine, He's fine. Fine, But you know
when your wife tells you, how are you, honey, I'm fine.

(49:46):
It's fine a good thing, not really, even though by
definition fine is just that and that interesting, like the
definition of fine. Um can actually be excellent, first rate, great, exceptional, outstanding, quality, superior, splendid, magnificent, exquisite.

(50:11):
But the truth is fine is not great, not terrible.
It's fine. This radio show is quite fine. No, it's fine,
it's fine, Chief, I'm fine. World Series Champ seven time
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Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio World Series Getting up, Ready
to get in a way in uh just under four
hours at Chevez Ravine. That's Dodger Stadium. Of course, it's

(51:57):
gonna be hot hot, does all get out? That's exactly
I mean, it's literally I don't know how hot, what
the over under is on hot as I'll get out.
But once you get to a hundred degrees in late October,
that's hot as I'll get out. But it's not Houston
hundred degrees. But for California that's plenty hot, plenty steamy,
and we'll see what it does to the base. You know,
you know who would know what that type of heat

(52:19):
does to a baseball. Matt Holiday, seven time All Star,
four time Silver Slugger Award winner and of course a
World Series champion, going back to his days with St.
Louis Cardin's play with the Yankees this year up and
down year for you. Um? Okay, So this type of heat, Matt,
what's it due to a baseball game? You know, I
don't think it will have a bigger impact. Maybe some

(52:41):
people thinks. I think wind has more of an impact
on the game. I understand that the pretty windy out there,
I think speaking hold on, hold on, speaking of windy,
are you in a wind tunnel? Where where the hell
are you? Yeah? I would I would prefer to go
back and unless unless you want quotes to be taken
us when hitting anyway? All right, So when the bigger

(53:08):
factor than heat, Yeah, I think that as baseball players,
you really don't care much about the temperature as long
as it's not crazy. Um. I think the wind can
have an impact on the game more than than the temperature.
And if it's from right fields, I heard it might
be blowing in a in from right field, I think
that there could be a ball or two that get affected. Um.

(53:31):
But I don't think that either team will be impfected
by the heat. Okay, but but if the wind is
blowing in, like baseball has become strikeout, walk or home run?
Right thirty four percent of the time, no one else
except for the battery and the hitter has to even
touch a baseball, So that to me would dramatically affect
this game. If the wind is in fact blowing in correct, Yeah,

(53:53):
I think so. I think there's gonna be probably Yeah,
I mean, it depends on how hard it's being when
and sometimes with those stadiums, you know, they blocked the wind,
and so maybe if the ball, you know, it's hit
below the roof, that it may not have much of
an impact on carry. I'd have to be practice and

(54:14):
you know, the balls flying um to see whether or
not I thought it would have much of an impact um.
But like I said, I mean know a lot of
times using there could be something that you know, there
would be maybe wall scrapers that could have an effect
and then turning the out or something like that. But again,
it'd be hard to darrel without being at adding practice. Okay,

(54:35):
So I remember you were with the Cardinals, I believe,
in the playoffs at Dodger Stadium and you struggle with
the ball that it wasn't the lights, it was the
T shirt, right, this is it's a lights So is
that is that? Is that a problem with Dodger Stadium specifically. Yeah,
I think you can probably go through and see at

(54:55):
Dodger Stadium that there there's a there's a spot in
the out especially if you're playing deep where you're coming
out a ball the life standards trying to have an
impact on the on the ball. Um, yeah, there is
there is some some some of the balls to getting
lost in the life. I think I was watching Jason

(55:16):
Hayward playing out there. Um, I mean even in this
series this past series where he ended up catching it,
but it looked to me like he had lost it
and then founded in the last second, uh kind of
caught it. So um yeah, I mean I think there
definitely is is a there's a couple of places in
the outfield that could be a second life. Matt Holiday,

(55:36):
seven time All Star, four time Silver Slugger and of
course the World Series champion, back with the Day with
the Cardinals for the New York Yankees this year, joining
us in the Doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports,
trading a bunch of things. I want to get to
with you, and you've been kind enough to say, hey, man,
I'll join you anytime. We'll talk about these World Series
games and I want to talk about these two teams,
but let's let's start with Houston because I started the
show Matt saying, hey, look, if you're a seventy six

(55:58):
er fan, if you're Brown fan, and if you're a
Niners fan, like tanking works. Like they stripped it down.
They went to twenty six million in payroll, they loaded
up on draft picks, and four of those guys are
four of their stuff. Like, I know they wouldn't be
here if not for Verlander, But I mean you look
at the names they were able to get because of
the year, the couple of years to which they were

(56:20):
they were tanking, and it's pretty remarkable, right Lance mcculors, Carlos, Korea, Bregman,
and Springer. Um, is that beeple in baseball had the
sense that some of this was coming, Like they were
loading up with young talent and this was actually part
of Jeff Luna's playing correct. Yeah, I think everybody saw coming.
Like you said, you know, if you have the top

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first or second pick, what means which means you need
to get one of the top prospects in the country.
And and when you do that four or five six years, um,
you end up with a good bit of talent, trade
some of that talent to get a guy like Rylander,
and then you start adding pieces and couple free agents

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here there, and you pick the right time to kind
of go for it as your young players start to
blossom into the prime of their careers, which is where
Korea and today and Springer are coming into the crimes
of their career, and then in some sprinkling some veterans,
and then you make a trade or two and and
and and I think this is the formula that a

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lot of the organizations are looking at, where you developed
and free agent signings and and trade. Um. So I
think that that was the plan and a lot of
teams of an organizations since that's the kind of way
to go. It's hard to sort of transform or take

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a different direction and don't compete are able to do
and haven't able to do the last couple of years.
It does not have to completely tear down to rebuild,
and so I think that that's really challenging. But I
think some of these other organizations are looking at the
astros and saying, look, we didn't have the fun some
of the other Um, all right, Matt Holiday joining us,

(58:11):
hold kick you asked him to try and walk to
an area in which there's like five bars, right, because
this is his that his cell phone is beyond like,
I'm not even gonna get a gonna find out who
the carrier is. I'm not gonna sell it because we've
all everybody thinks it's the carry. But I think they
all use the same towers, don't they won't they all
use the same towers? Yeah, that's that's a weird one,

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because he did. For a while there I thought he
was ordering the double a double cheeseburger. Right, it sounded
like he was at a drive through. Then it sounds
like he was doing megaphones. Then it sounded perfectly clear
it was. It was all over the map there, I will,
we'll get Holiday back. There's a bunch of things. So
in essence, look they loaded up on. Here's here's a
question I have for him. I'm gonna ask as soon
as um he rejoins us, is this How does the

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Jose altuve A thing work? How does that work? All right,
here's what we're gonna do. Um, let's get you quickly
to Dan Buyer and then we'll welcome back in Matt Holiday. Dan.
What else you got what what else you're working on.
I was working on a carrots about ten seconds ago.

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Game one of the World Series is tonight Astros and
Dodgers at Dodgers Steady Obviously, when you've accomplished everything that
he has as an individual, and you look at the
ultimate goal or go for any professional athlete to win
that championship. So Clayton is very unselfish, very driven, as
we all know. But I think for him, yeah, that
final piece to win a championship for a team that

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the only team he's known, Yeah, I think that that's
the final piece for him. And skipper Dave Roberts puts
his ace on the mound tonight. It's Clayton Kershaw against
Dallas Kaiko. Coverage starts at seven thirty Eastern time. You
will see it on Fox tonight. Again. The heat is
going to be an issue. Temps right now in l
a over a hundred gametime tempt for the first pitch
schedule to be a about nineties seven degrees. Dodgers putting

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Corey Seeger on the World Series roster, but you won't
see veteran outfielder Curtis Granderson on the roster. Some news
from the NFL Jason Peters loss for the year, the
Eagles left tackle tour ligaments at his knee and last
night's win against Washington. Philadelphia also lost linebacker Jordan Hicks
for the season with the torn achilles. The one game
suspension given a Raiders running back Marshawn Lynch was upheld,

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so hillmans Son this game against the Bills, and the
Dolphins released cornerback Byron Maxwell and signed backup quarterback David Fails.
Another sound real likely to see Matt Moore on Thursday
dug against the Ravens as Jay Cutler is dealing with
those cracked ribs. I appreciate that, Dan. All right, let's
welcome back in Matt Holiday. Who were you go Landline? Now?
Is that what we did? No? I don't. I'm in

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my car now, and I mean, surely I have better
reception now. I think so. Although here's the problem with
the car. Now you're in you're in Florida. In the car,
if you turn the air condition won't be able to
hear you. By the end of this interview, you're gonna
be sweating like a like ahol, that's a that's the
other right. We We appreciate you grinding for us. Um, alright,
so explain to me the al Tuve thing. I just

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he's five ft six, he's tiny. Like when you generate
the power that you've generated to hit thirty home runs,
it's not surprising to me, you know, like Aaron Judge, Aaron,
When Aaron Judge hits the ball a mile like that,
that's not surprising to me. And so we've seen other guys,
diminutive players hit the ball well, put the ball in play, um,

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but we haven't seen him with the type of power
that al Twoba is able to generate. And by the way,
Altuve goes from being an undrafted player too likely winning
the a L m v P this year. How does
this all work? Well? I think the one thing is
is that he gets the most out of his body.
I think he's swinging his hand eye coordination has always

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been off the charts, even when he first came out.
And I think that he's he's exceptionally strong, particularly for
for you know, like you said, how short here, but
he's really really strollow. His limbs are really short, so
he doesn't he's hard to jam him. You can't get
the ball in on him because his arms are really
short and and so he's very difficult to pitch too,
because he can get up on the plate and then

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and then you can't really channel him so and it
strikes him small and and he doesn't you know, he
swings it. He's very aggressive. UM. But I think the
one thing that that he has is he gets the
most out of his body with his load and then
the way he fires and he really um not to
get too complex, but you know he gets he gets
his swing off and in a very powerful way. Um,

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and and then he's he you know, I think he
sends a lot of time in the weight room and
h and has tremendous hand eye coordinations. So the combination
of of having the fast twitch and and uh and
being able to use it and having a usable power
that he has. And I think that that stadium really
helps him too as far as you know, who's down
the left field line, Um, he doesn't have to hit

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it a ton and even down the right field and
he doesn't have to even though he can, I mean,
he came, he can go deep anywhere. But you know,
some of his misses I think he can still get
reward for in that ballpark. Yeah, I mean, like looked
at Ballpark. I mean there's some characteristics to it, the
characteristics to it which would lead you to believe that
he hits. But he actually hit more home runs on

(01:03:17):
the road this year than he did at home, which
is maybe the and he hit better on the road
than he did at at home this year for his splits,
I want to ask you about on the road, because
he just got done with the series with them, and
yet uh, Springer Korea, they did nothing at Yankee Stadium?
What what? What was the game plan to these guys
that you guys were able to execute more in Yankee

(01:03:39):
Stadium than you were in Mini May you know, I
think the game plan was the same. I think maybe
the game plan may have been better in Yankee Stadium.
You never know how kind of work. I mean, I
don't know that there's any one thing to put the singer. Um,
you know, we really will really hold him down in
New York and then um they were able to kind
of get it get it going a little bit. In Houston. Um,

(01:04:01):
I think our Dame plan was dead. We picked him
to return, I think, Um, I think more than anything,
we just didn't anything offensively going in Houston. You know,
we're going through your own four dnis. You're not gonna
win those games. The starters can hold him in there,
but um, eventually it's like you know that they're just
there's there's no support and so um you can just

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you know, press a little bit and gotta make the
perfect pitch because you don't have a lead or or
it's tied zero zero, one to zero and ultimately end
up making a few more state mistakes in that situation
where in Nancy Stadium, we were kind of playing with
the minimum our side and uh, and they were kind
of trying to maybe do too much. So I don't
think that it was necessarily about how we were trying

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to pick him. It may have been more of you know,
whether you're pressing or maybe the execution might have been
a little bit better in New Yorker. All right, we're
gonna see Kaiko tonight. You saw Kaiko. The one game
you did play in was was against kaikl Uh. What
What's what is he like to face from as a
right handed Yeah? Well, the thing about him is he
gets a lot of movement on all those pitches. He

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doesn't throw anything straight. He's either he's thinking the ball
away from you, or he's cutting the ball in on you.
And then he said, um, a slower pace with with
his curve ball kind of changeup. So he's one of
those guys for me that you gotta pick one side
of the plate of the other. You gotta look out
over the slate and look for a sinker and change it,
or you gotta look in and look for the coat
of and and and maybe the breaking ball coming towards

(01:05:25):
you back so that uh, he doesn't such a good
job of mixing it up and pitching the both sides
of the plate that I think a lot of guys
get caught in between where um, they're swinging at both sides,
which is what he wants. He wants you kind of
caught him between speed wise and caught in between on
which side of the plate you're looking. Um. So I
think that it'll be important for for for the hitters,
you know, particularly the right handed hitters, to pick one

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side and and be um, fold on the plane and
stick to it, because eventually I think he'll give you
a cutter in that you can hit, or if you
stay out over the plate, just get him up a
little bit and he'll give you a sinker that you
can hit. Um. But if if they get to where
they're they're chasing both sides and the plate. He has
so much movement. Uh, he's very difficult at that. And
I think the lefties, you know, he more of a

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breaking ball, uh pitcher, you know, he's a sladder more
to lefties, and his sinkers in so um he's he's
really good at his patterns, um and uh and and
has a lot of movement on his pitches. All right,
let's get to what you really really know. Well, I
know you spent the year this year with the Yankees,
and of course you spent those couple of months uh
in purgatory with the A's. But for the most part

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you've been in the National League and you face the
Dodgers a bunch, and you place face Kershaw in the playoffs,
and you guys had whatever the secret to uh, you know,
the like the secret code you guys on. You guys
cracked that code in the seventh inning against Kershaw. All right,
As when you get in there against Kershaw, what what
are you seeing? Normally? Well for him, for me, M

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his sladder has been the big difference pitch for him
when he first came up, he was more four seemers,
so you know pretty much straight pastball, uh you know,
mid night these and then his curveball. Um. But at
the last four or five or six years, he's really
uh turned in more I think more slidders than curve
bones on what the numbers say. But his slidder to
me at the eighty nine and ninety one range has

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really turned him into from an elite pitcher into the
best picture. And I think that whether it's a variety
at his back foot or lefty going down in the way, um,
it's it's a dominant pitch. So and then and then
it really kind of takes your your your your head
and and sort of your your positioning off of that
slow curveball toware in the past you could kind of

(01:07:34):
sit one or the other, either said fastball and you
sit curveball, and and and you know, it was was
a little more manageable. But when he's got this in
between pitch um, it's it's I think it's taken him
into another level. So for me, he was fast blows
up and in and then he would throw a splatter
off of that and then if he felt like I
was getting to the ball in he fax foot, the
back foot, the slot. I mean he backed door the sladder,

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which means he started out off the plate away and
then come come on under the point or throw his
curveball in the dirt if he thought I was looking
for the fastball. So that he's very good at watching
utters and uh guessing, you know, not guessing, but kind
of looking and seeing what's what they're doing and then
adjusting off of that. And I think that that's what
makes him great. He's he's got several different ways that

(01:08:17):
he could pitch. Matt Holiday joining us, four times Silver Slugger,
seven time All Star World Series Champ with St. Lois
Cardinals joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh, the
numbers are pretty stark if you look at him. Historically
he gets that seventh inning, that's when you guys got
to him. Even this year he hasn't gone he hasn't
gone deep very often. But once he gets past the
sixty first pitch. The sixty first pitch, the batting averages

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three seventy five on bases forty four. So what changes
later in the game. Is it the fastball that loses
lost the Is it is it location. Is it that
slider's not as sharp? What changes once he gets later
in the game. You know, I would wonder if if
back has something to do with that, you know, he
just kind of runs out of gas or as you know,

(01:08:59):
there's hasn't been able to condition like he has in
the past because of his back, or maybe he tightens
up the later as as it gets into the sixth
seven you know, fift six seventh penning UM. Because that
had never really seemed to be a problem in my
recollection and facing him, I never really noticed a big
difference in his and his stuff for his cameer in
and game went on. But my guesses it's probably more

(01:09:21):
location than bestmall velocity. UM, maybe a little bit of both.
And I think that when you get a little bit
tired or his back tightens up a little bit, that
he loses maybe a little bit of extension out wider.
He starts to make a few more mistakes with it
to where it just kind of spins in the middle
and then gives right handed hitters a chance to to
hit extra base hits off him, which I've noticed he's

(01:09:42):
given up more home runs. It's post season and really
is normal for him. Um, it seems to me like
those are on on on off speed pitches kind of
hanging in the middle of the place. Um. Yeah, that
would be My guess is that it's been a bit
of a conditioning. Um issue this year was was having
the back problems that he's had and over the last
couple of years. Um, where he can't hold his his

(01:10:04):
comer and his velocity quite like he did maybe for
that room where he was so dominant. But um, and
it usually with pitchers that usually comes down to make
him more mistakes that third time through the order. Last thing, Uh,
the difference in these two teams is in the bullpen, right,
That's what everyone said, like do you look, Hey, they
got they got Verlander. I will ask you about Verlander

(01:10:26):
when we get ready for Verlander Day. But you've seen
Kenley Jansen plenty. Um. It feels like he just he
he has a little bit of Mario Rivera. Feels like
he doesn't throw a ton of different pitches. He just
comes in and what it's a cutter that he uses. Yeah,
it's a It's just it's his fastball and and he
doesn't have to manipulate the ball to make a cut
So you know, from he doesn't have to get his

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hand on the side of the ball. I think that's
his nancial thing, is that he creates UM just a
little bit of that sad man and and the velocity
of the ninety two to ninety seven to paying on
how important the pitch is. From my experience and watching him, Uh,
you know, he could be throwing ninety two and then
a guy gets on second base and all of a
sudden seven UM. So he can add and subtract depending

(01:11:11):
on the situation. And then to me, it looks like
he's throwing a good hard curveball slash slider a little
more often. He says, which, you know, it's easy when
you know a guy's gonna sew the same pitch. It's
not always easy to hit it because he locates it
really well. And he says that cutter kind of high,
which it's hard to get on top of um because
of the angle he creates and how big he is. UM.

(01:11:31):
But I think he does have a good secondary pitch
now that that if he feels like he gets deep
into account the guys is starting to track his cutter,
the better he can go to that slider UM more
often and get the strike out, which I've been watching
and then noticed that um, when he needs it, he's
got a secondary pitch to go to. But you know,
he primarily lives up in the zone and it's hard

(01:11:53):
to lay off and he pitches uh, you know in
that ninety two to ninety five was cut but belt high,
and you can't get on top of it. You feel
like you're aunt. A lot of my experiences is I
found a lot of balls straight back to him owner
and then he takes it out just a little bit higher,
and the next thing you know, you're swinging through it
and headed back to the dugout. He he knows what
he's doing and and and he's he's a different kind

(01:12:16):
of picture. You don't see a ton of guys with
that kind of velcity and being able to cut the
ball um the way he does. So he's not somebody
that you see a bunch of and the type of
picture he is, So I think that makes even even
more difficult. Man. I can't tell you how much I
appreciate you one going out in your car with no
a c calling us back, but to uh giving us
all this info and insight heading into game one, taking

(01:12:38):
my son you're cool with him taking a glove, but
I can't take my glove, right, everybody tells me, don't
take my glove. Yeah, I don't think you want to
take your glove. I don't think so. I think you're
past the area lead and takes your glove. Yeah, yeah, Hey, listen, listen.
I want to thank you because I think you're I
don't know if you're gonna go back to the Yankees,
but now I don't have to cheer for the Yankees anymore.
I just it was a weird It was a weird

(01:13:00):
is it was a really weird feeling a cheer for
the Yankees with you on them this year. I just
I want to point that out that that's how much
I love you as a friend. Is we where I
have a Yankees hat, which we did for this year
at least we were Yankees fans, but it was a
one year deal for us, just like it was a
one year year deal for you. Alright, son, all right,
thanks thanks so much. That's uh, that's uh, Matt Holiday

(01:13:22):
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Doug Gotli Show, Fox Sports Radio. Mm hmmm, um. Question
for you. Dodger dog. Eat the Dodger dog, don't eat
you eat the Dodger dog. And by the way, Dodger
dogs are famous for Dodger Stadium, but they're just merely
hot dogs. I'm just I hate to be the guy
I'm not. I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer. I'm
just being honest with you. Like, there literally is nothing

(01:14:08):
special about the Dodger dog outside of the fact you're
eating it in Dodger Stadium. I love Dodger Stadium. It
is Oh, let me make sure. Yeah, it's my favorite
park I've ever been because it has this. It has this.
It is older, right, like it's not like ancient like Wrigley,
but it's and it has been redone, but it it

(01:14:29):
feels just like the perfect park. It's a it has Yeah,
it has a big so you know, it has the
big asphalt parking lot that surrounds it. But just in location,
uh distance to downtown l A, it's baseball only. The
sitelines are great, there's enough outfield bleachers, but it's not

(01:14:49):
closed in like I just I feel like it could
be the nineteen fifties, sixties or seventies, and yet it's
two thousand and seventeen. But I will tell you that
anybody goes like, oh, Dodger dog, amazing, There's it's a
hot dog. Yes, music, I'm with you, and I normally
don't even like hot dogs. You gotta go dodge your dog.
Why well, I mean because you're similar to me. It's

(01:15:11):
not like you go, my son is gonna have a
hot dog. You don't go to like fifty Dodger games
a year, So if this is one of the few
games that you're actually going to, there's no reason why
you can't indulge into a nice Dodger dog. Yeah. The
thing about hot dogs are like, look, there's there's a
couple of things human beings cannot turn down because of
the smell bacon, hot dogs, popcorn. In no particular, although

(01:15:35):
I'd probably put if you want the order bacon popcorn
hot dogs one too three, cannot turn it down. But
my son is going to have my son has he'll
always have a hot dog with a bunch of ketchup
on it, just a bunch of cannot not swimming and ketchup,
but at least waiting and ketchup right, that that's how
he'll have it, um, you know, and and all honesty. Like,

(01:15:57):
probably most overrated food at a at a ballpark is
the pretzel. Like Aunt Annie's and is aunt Andie's or
Annie's ants and and he's right, and he's pretzels, Antony's pretzels.
Those are amazing, But those aren't They don't have that
type of fresh pretzels at ballparks. They have ballpark pretzels.

(01:16:18):
Which are they? They sounding that you know? They just
they're okay now? Was and and He's pretzels. I would
say Any's pretzels ahead of any sort of Dodger dog,
but uh, stadium pretzels. I've struggled to get down with.
Like I feel like I'm gonna be the guy drinking
water and eating popcorn. You guys keep looking at buy
or baror you want to hop in on this. Oh
I was just gonna say it's Auntie Ann's anti Anne

(01:16:41):
that pretzels and no people a yelling at their car
radio going I didn't get it really mad, like it's
not your aunt I didn't think it's imaginary ants. I
didn't think it was worthy of me coming on the
air to wrecked. But I did tell those guys to

(01:17:02):
be that's all. It's not like mispronouncing. What did I
What did I? What did you get mad that I?
I gently leaned you to it? What was the who
was the guy? We were merciless? What was how are
you mercells? No? You had like a streak of like
four straight days of correcting me. It was it was
only so I had about enough. It was merciless. Yeah,

(01:17:26):
and I think I said it the correct way like
the first six updates. But then when I said it wrong,
now you actually said it wrong the whole time. Let's
get let's get off, Come on, Doug. Earlier today, No,
Dan Buyer did not say Whitney Marcellis. He said Whitney
mercells Um. Earlier today on What show is It? It
was on with the Herd right, I was on Undisputed Um.

(01:17:48):
They were discussing Dwyane Wade. Now. Look, cristopers Hard also
said Dwyane Wade one of the fourth best shooting guard
of all time. Like, okay, you have to be able
to shoot to be a shooting guard, but okay. Uh.
Chris Brusorry said this about Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade is
about the most selfless superstar this league has ever seen.

(01:18:10):
You could put David Robinson up there with him. But
here's a difference in those two. Dwayne Wade. I can't
think of an alpha dog superstar in his prime whoever
gave his team to another player so they could win. Uh. Yeah,

(01:18:31):
I I think if if that is the I mean, like, look,
Tim Duncan late in his career welcome in LaMarcus Aldridge
to ultimately take his position. But I don't think we
ever thought of Tim Duncan as an alpha dog per
se um. I would say that that that Paul Pierce
welcomed in Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen to his team

(01:18:52):
in order to help him win. So we've seen that before.
By the way, didn't we just see this from Steph Curry.
I didn't Steph Curry welcome in having to rant, So
I think he's unselfish, the idea that he's the most unselfish,
like Steph Curry had his own team won a championship
when Went Went, had was unanimous m v P and
welcomed in another m v P to his team to

(01:19:14):
take more of the game winning shots. So we've seen
him before, we'll see it again. That doesn't take away
from the fact that Dwayne Wade has sacrificed his ego and,
unlike a lot of these guys late in his career,
has welcomed in the idea of now coming off the bench,
which remember that's Alan Irish. Remember I don't remember any
m v P coming off the bench right. Well, we
had Dayne Wade for Finals MVP going to his coach

(01:19:36):
and going like, I'm cool coming off the bench. Fire,
there's some other stuff. You got some pent up anger
there that you want to get out. The things that
I do that that that frustrates you. No, I just
it was it was that string. It was that I
may not have been that long. I just felt like it.

(01:19:57):
Yas Yasiel Puig has a has a died mohawk, a
blue died mohawk. I'm kind of cool with with with
the Puig thing now, like the Pueag thing when he
was a rookie, and you know, I always missed the
cutoff man, you know, didn't seem to get it. But
now his teams seemed to love teammates seemed to love him,
and a little bit of crazy peak seems to work.

(01:20:17):
You guys agree, disagree. I'm not the only guy who
didn't like it was Zak Cranky, and he's no longer
there anymore. So well, I think they're didn't like. Craig Calcatara,
who covers baseball Um, mentioned Yassi L. Puig in saying
that there may have been clubhouse moles would leak a
lot of the bad stuff about Puig, and maybe some
of those molds are no longer in the Dodgers clubhouse.

(01:20:40):
So maybe everything wasn't as bad as it once was
because the people who didn't like it maybe are no
longer there. Uh yeah, I mean there's there there. I
think there's a little bit of both. I think they
have some new blood. I think he's matured, and I
think this is kind of the best version of himself.
The manager has changed. I think Dave Roberts handel hands
a little bit better and domatically handle it. I think

(01:21:01):
all of those things work together. Yeah, no, absolutely yeah. Um. Now,
but you're a Brewer fan, but both of these teams
are kind of National League teams. Is there? Do you you?
Who are you? Are you rooting for anybody in this? Yeah?
I'm probably pulling for the Astros. If I had to
pick a team to win, I'd want Houston to win. Um,
just because I think I'm here in l A. And

(01:21:22):
there's a lot more Dodger love, so I would. It's like,
and you you don't like the fake Dodger love, right,
Like all of a sudden, everybody's a Dodger fan because
they're winning. Is that what you're getting at? Yeah? Yeah,
so I know John's a big fan. I don't want
to root against John's team, but I just I would
rather see the Astros. The problem with that, the problem
with that hypotheses is that that means that Houston has
this long time loyal fan base, which they don't have.

(01:21:44):
When they sucked, their fans all bailed on them. Now
they're good and their fans are going crazy. So I
don't disagree that people are hopping on the bourbial Dodger
dot your bandwagon, but I would tell you that there's
a much bigger bandwagon in Houston. More on that to
come with Steve Stack. He'll joins the show next. I'll
ask him just how much pressures on Clayton Kershaw on
the Doug got Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What opposite

(01:22:06):
Dug Gotta Leave Show, Fox Sports Radio. Me and my
guy going to a game. Uh, my boy Brennan who
listens to this show daily on Sirius x M. I
guess now he can't listen to it. And although he
switches over at text, make sure he switched over to
his I Heart app on the Doug Gotta Leave Show.
So he's bringing, he's bringing, he's my Uh, that's that's

(01:22:26):
the package, right. You know what he's want to know today? Guys?
When I told him he was going to the baseball game. Yes,
my son's name is Hayes, Samuel Hayes, got Lee William
Hayes Hayes. Actually, no, I'm kidding. Name WoT a name
in William Mays Hayes has got leave. Man. I gotta
text my wife we can we change his name still?
I mean nobody actually knows his first name is Samuel.

(01:22:49):
Um anyway, um, he said, uh do I get to
be on your radio show. That's what he said. That's
his His number one thing is can I be on
your radio show? So look, if Steve Sachs blows us off,
We're gonna call my son Hayes and have him fill
in as a guest. Are you guys okay? Everybody okay
with that? We're okay with that? Um yeah, so I'll

(01:23:11):
be I've fired up. It is hot today. It is
really really really really hot today in southern California. But
that's cool because it's baseball, and baseball is supposed to
be played outdoors. It's a summer game. This is summer weather.
Like anybody who says, like, well, this isn't it's It's.
One of the weird things about about football is so

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many of these teams are going to domes. It doesn't
feel really like the sport and the sport of baseball
does traditionally change in the month of October and when
it gets to November in the cold and the wind
and the rain and the sleet and still. But this
is honestly how baseball should be played. Five o'clock start.

(01:23:58):
That's about right. Like everything about out this is is
about right. The problem with it is. Boy, changing the
Astros to the National League is a weird thing. From
the National League to the American League is a weird thing.
And the additionally, I don't like it, not just because
and I know the Brewers switched from the American League

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to the National League before, and I know the other
teams have switched before too, I get it. The biggest
issue here is they went fifteen and fifteen, right, fifteen
American fifteen National League teams. So every every series has
an inter league series. Which of the things I hate,
I hate the most. I liked in realleague played in IT.
League play was good in IT League play was interesting

(01:24:39):
at times. Interleague play like, oh, I can't wait till
the Seattle Mariners take on the Toronto Blue Jays. I mean,
so that that's American League. H the Seattle Mariners take
on the the Miami Marlins, right, Like that's a bad
no one in Miami's I can't wait till the Mariners
come to town. But to have every series have an
Italy series kind of diminishes any sort of importance on

(01:25:02):
in the ever league series. Nothing special about it, nothing
special about it. Um But the biggest takeaway is that
is that the tanking works. It works. Now you've gotta
be a little bit lucky in tanking, and the Astros

(01:25:23):
have been, for the most part a little bit lucky.
Perfect example of luck is good and bad. Do you
see that Marquel Folts is having fluid drain from his
shoulder from shooting shoulder. So they've done a great job
in Philadelphia of loading up with you know, taking of
you know, getting They have basically like four stud draft choices, right,

(01:25:48):
and two of them appear to be hits Joel embiid
Ben Simmons hits, and then two appear to be so
so far to be Mrs Mark hell Folds is really
struggling with his shooting and maybe it's this shoulder that
is kind of the biggest issue for him heading forward.

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And then of course Julil Okaf seems to be a
miss for them. They also have Dario Sarich as well,
and like look Oka for is averaging ten points a game.
But he's kind of a player from a foregone style
in the NBA, like a true back to the basket
post player who can't shoot it well enough, isn't big
enough to dominate inside chest, skilled enough uh to play

(01:26:34):
offensively not great. Nowhere to hide him defensively. There's a
lot of other issues kind of working there. But the
reason that you tank for multiple years is even with
the best of scouting, it's about a fifty fifty crab shoot, right.
And if you look back at the Major League Baseball Draft, um,

(01:26:59):
you see that that's completely true for everybody involved. Um.
You know, this team, the Houston Astros, was put together
starting in two thousand eleven. George Springer was taken with
the number eleven pick in the first round. So that's
when they kind of the building blocks. That's when they
started to tear it down. The next year they had

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the number one overall pick. They took Carlos Correa was
a pretty good pick, right. That's two thousand twelve, two
thousand thirteen, when tanking was really really obvious what they
were doing. They lost a hundred and eleven games. They
took Mark Apple number one, who I believe they didn't
even sign. So the idea that tanking works is not

(01:27:42):
that you tank you get a good prospect, you get
two good prospects and it works. It's the idea you
get a volume of prospects and that volume of prospects
ends up ultimately paying off for you. They took Andrew
Thurman with the second the first pick of the second round.
Has anybody who heard of Andrew Thurman? I've not so.
Two thousand thirteen, when they reached peak uh tanking, they

(01:28:05):
lost a hundred eleven games, they got a zero point
zero on their local ratings zero point zero. They got
the number one pick and to this point total bust.
Now the next year they took Brady Aiken, who's the
first overall pick, but didn't sign um enrolled in um

(01:28:26):
I MG and then was drafted by the Indians next year.
So it hasn't worked to perfection. But overall this roster
was comprised of guys to which they're under club control
for the first six years. Even more than that, if
you get down to it first six years with minimal money,
and they've gone out and sprinkled in some real some
Josel Toba, who was an undrafted free agent back in

(01:28:48):
two thousand seven been with the team now reaching his
his peak. And then you get some free agents and
you you trade for Justin Firs and you get a
little bit lucky. They were trying to trade for Zach
written at the trade deadline, didn't get him, thought they
were getting him, didn't get him, And then they decided
to get very Lander at the waiver wired trade deadline,

(01:29:09):
and at first Verlander balked at it and then ultimately
changed his mind. Yes. Music. Out of all of the sports,
the three major sports baseball, basketball, and football, which of
those do you think pays the highest, like the best
payoff for tanking NBA? And is that because of like

(01:29:29):
the number of players and how they can impact the game.
It's because if you look at, like go through the
best players in the NBA, and by and large they're
all top ten draft picks. There are some exceptions, there
are obvious exceptions, there are outliers to that, but for
the most part, go through the top players in the

(01:29:50):
NBA and we'll go through there. So that that's why
it is that there's a there's there's bust in the
NBA right, there's Anthony Bennett's, there's um Hashim to the
beats out there. There's a lot of number two picks
have flamed out, some because of injuries, I'm just because
they're not that good. But by and large, you go
through the top twenty five players in the NBA, and

(01:30:14):
with a couple exceptions, like people are talking about jonas
um at Decompo and how he might be an m
v P candidate. We actually actually want to get to that.
Get that a come and you know, look they took up,
they took a swing at him. It was still fifteenth
pick in the first round. It's not like he was
taken last pick of the second round. And very Christoph

(01:30:37):
prezingis remember people freaked out he was taken, I think
is the fourth overall pick in the NBA draft. Anthony
Davis number one overall, Blake Griffin number one overall, Steph
Curry who slid in the draft, you know live bills
that well, Minnesota should have taken him. He went seventh.
It wasn't like he went Lebron James one overall, James Harden,

(01:31:00):
would he go third overall? Russell Westbrook fourth overall. So
for the most part, most of these guys who are
the elite players in the NBA are top ten picks.
And so if you get more top ten picks, the
likelihood of success by tanking, if you stick by your
guys for enough enough years, is it's gonna pay off,

(01:31:24):
all right? Is theeves actually gonna join us. I'm not
gonna join us. Good. Not good that I'm but not
good because I have something planned just in case. I
mentioned Johnason to Nkompo and how people are now saying, well,
this should be the m v P. We mentioned Ben
Simmons earlier, which people have already handed him the Rookie

(01:31:45):
of the Year award. I have established a reason why
so many want to call a race over so soon.
It's a syndrome. I'll name that syndrome. Up Coming next
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Fox Sports Radio. Have you heard the talk about Johnason
to Decompo being the early in the early runnings for
the m v P. Have you heard about this? Have

(01:32:26):
you heard that Ben Simmons uh is the first player
since hell O'Neil to have four double doubles in his
first four games in his NBA career, so he must
be Rookie of the Year. Um, I have decided that
we have a syndrome. Do you wanna know what that
syndrome is? There from I do? I am waiting for it. Uh,

(01:32:50):
it's called fp TC Yes, f PTCs. Do you wanna
know what f PTCs is. It's an It's an acronym.
That's an that's an acronym. The acronym is the first
person to call it syndrome, that's what that's what it is.

(01:33:12):
First person to call it. You want to be the
first person to call it? I call it. Look, little
kids have this. My son plays baseball, eight ten year
old Mustang baseball in southern California and pop fly is
hit and it could be on the complete other side
of the field and myself, I got it right. So

(01:33:32):
it starts at a very young age, a very very
young age. But the basis of it, if he wants
to be the first So I was like, hey, dude, look,
if it's in your area, you're probably the guy who's
most likely to catch it, But you gotta make sure
it's in your area first, then call it. Everybody's get
out of the gotta get out of the way, But

(01:33:53):
he wants to be the first person to call it
not the best person to call uh, But we have that.
We have this problem all the time. You know, you
have people that went Trump wo, Like I call that
thing way back six months ago, Like yeah, but did
you know that Hillary would get sick and that when
she went campaign in Wisconsin and there would be low

(01:34:14):
turnout in certain areas? And did you did you know
about the the uh? Was it extra? Was it extra? Was?
What was it? That was? What was the Hollywood show
that had the tape? Like you did you know that
all that stuff? Like now you didn't really. We even
had this with Major League Baseball with the with the
World Series, I'm gonna take the Astros in six, Like

(01:34:36):
you may be right, but just because you're the first
person to call it, Like you have no idea of
knowing how Kershaw is gonna pitch to night, how Kaik
is gonna pitch tonight, how Game two goes, who they
go to in the pen? You know, ball goes fair bagoes.
There's so many different things. But we want to be
the first person to call it. That's what we have.
We're like, I want to be the first person to
go like I called it. I told you, I told you,

(01:35:02):
and we want to do that with the m v P.
Like the Great Freak may end up being an m
v P. He may has a chance to be an
MVP candidate. He looks the part of a guy who
he's still very very young, very young. Like take a
guess how how old Gione is? Um music you're going

(01:35:24):
over or under? Take you guess how old Gione is?
Um you buy? Her knows this? Yeah, I'll stay out
of it. Go buy or go ahead? Two years old? Right?
Like two years old. The whole question with him is
his his shooting right in the league, and not just

(01:35:45):
his shooting, but can they put shooting around him? But
I mean like he checks a lot of boxes, he
handles the ball playing like a point guard. Um, he's
scoring thirty seven points a game, eleven rebounds a game,
five assists a game. He's still not shooting the three well,
but it doesn't matter because he's just so long. He
gets an angle, gets a step on, somebody who's by

(01:36:06):
you right knows that he used his hands, his body
and whatever. So you might be right. He might be
the m v P. Or it might be that you know,
he had a couple of really good games because his
first game he only had seventeen. Maybe he's finding his
rhythm or maybe he's just scoring a lot of points.
We have this incessant need to be the first problems.

(01:36:28):
I called it, told you that was gonna be in style,
told you that band was gonna hit. I told you
that movie was a hit, told you that TV show
is gonna hit. Like, Okay, congratulations, here's your prize. Ben Simmons,
same thing. Like Ben Simmons was the number one overall
pick two years ago. He was I told people he's

(01:36:50):
the he's the best one and done that. I've seen
better than Anthony Davis in terms of all of the
different basketball was really really easy to Ben Simmons in college, like, oh,
we need to make the n S a term. Like
there's a lot of different things that went into it.
Sometimes his attitude wasn't great, not a great leader, obviously,
not a great shooter, and sometimes that will find the

(01:37:10):
staying for defense. He wasn't not a sense that will
be a superstar. But the idea of being a Rookie
of the Year wasn't crazy last year and definitely isn't
crazy considering he's not really a rookie this year. But
um F first P person T two see call. We

(01:37:30):
won't give it a letter, although we don't really need
to give te right but anyway, F P T C
S we have collectively first person to call it syndrome.
I called it it's gonna be a disaster. I called
it it's gonna be a success. I called it. Ben

(01:37:51):
Simmons is gonna be the m v P. I call
it Carson Wentz gonna win a Super Bowl? Mike all right,
good like or you could just say, like, hey, you
know what, Carson Wentz looks really good right now, looks
like a stud looks like Philadelphias found their quarterback of
the now of the future. I like them a lot.

(01:38:13):
We don't have that. We have to make these bombastic,
big statements, and we have to do it as soon
as we see it immediately, instead of like, hey, you know,
the key to being great is doing it a lot,
doing it often more often than not doing it. And
we can't do that if we call it after just
one game. So be very cautious of first first person

(01:38:33):
to call it syndrome. Ramos, did you want do you
want to call anything? Right now. Do you want to
call the world series? Yeah, I'm gonna call the world
serious since you've given me a little platform here. Dodgers
in six Um, you're a Dodger fan. I'm a little biased. Yeah, no, no,
I'm just asking your Dodger. That would be affirmative. Who's

(01:38:54):
your favorite Dodger of all time? Of all time? Fernando
Valneuela m bernanomanius, Pretty cool, it was awesome. Now he
was supposedly nineteen during fernand he was not. He was
not nineteen like that. That was part of the story.
This would be like Fernando not being nineteen, be like
his jose Al Tobe was really six ft tall. That's

(01:39:15):
a yeah. So, uh, do you have any idea what
we're talking about? Fernando Mania there Ryan music? Since you're
all of twelve years old, thirteen and a half, doug Um, Yeah,
I mean I have an idea of it. What are
you thinking of it? I mean it was Fernando valen
Suila helping lead one of the great Dodger teams. I mean,

(01:39:37):
I don't I don't know how he was. He was.
He was a rookie, his his true rookie, his first
a year up. He was nineteen. His second year, he
was nineteen turn twenty. Um. He led the league in
innings pitch. He led the league in strikeouts. Uh. He
led the league in games started as well. He had
eight shutouts eight shutouts. Remember eight shutouts is ridiculous. His

(01:39:59):
r A was two point four four at the time.
He was Rookie of the Year. He finished fifth in
the MVP voting, and he wanted Cy Young as a rookie.
Cy Young Rookie of the Year as a rookie like
took over baseball and like, look, there's a huge Latino
follow following in southern California, and here you have a
you know, here you have a Mexican player who's left handed,

(01:40:20):
who threw there was a screwball at the time. Who
between uh Native Los Angeleos and Latinos and uh Mexicans.
I mean it was it was a happening every time
he pitched. Is that a fair Is that a fair assessment?
That is a very fair assessment. I was about eleven
years old and he was everything that I thought I
could be as a baseball player. Yeah, because and he

(01:40:43):
wasn't like a like Fernando was like twenty like usually
twenty were like, you're like your best physical shape, you're lean,
like he was be at a gut right he was not?
He was He was not the picture of health, nor
was he really twenty years old. I would guess he
was probably twenty two at the time. What you're saying
is he was bar Tolo cologne before Bartoler. He wasn't
that he wasn't that fat, And it was like bar

(01:41:04):
Tolo cologne was fat. Okay. He was CC Sabathia before CC.
Maybe that heavy. Maybe that he was pudgy. It was
more pudgy than anything. I love that he was listed
in No chance. He was one eighty zero zero. So
for Nando Valence, Um, Dan Buyer, you are a brewer fan, right, Yes?

(01:41:27):
Favorite brewer of all time is either Robin Youn or
Paul Milliner right on those teams, I liked ben Ogilvie.
Ben Ogilvie's a good one. But who's your then, who's
your favorite? Who's your favorite brewer of all time? Um? Yeah,
I'd probably put ben Ogilvie up there. You kind of
laughed at me when I said those two names, like
I dated you, Like, Okay, if you have another one.
Is there another one? Did you? Was there another Brewer

(01:41:48):
from the more recent playoff brewers that you wanted to
throw into the mix? You know? Um not, not really.
I don't have a lot of favorite players nowadays. But
I know that's the weird thing we don't have. I
don't feel like I guess my son does. Right, Like
my son, he loves Clayton Curryshaw because they share a birthday.
He doves Matt Holiday because we're friends and he's been
really cool to everybody. Loves Mike, Mike Trout. Uh you know,

(01:42:11):
he loves Joe Smith because we're friends or whatever. But uh, yeah,
the when you're an adult, you don't have a favorite player,
but there are guys you're like, man, I really I
like watching that guy play. Yeah, left yes, yes, there's
always been those. Those lefties are like, he's still around,
He's still alive. He's not just alive, he's pitching. I

(01:42:33):
remember I was watching speaking of Matt. They were playing
in the World Series against the Rangers, right, this was
what years that series? Uh when when the Rangers were
down to their last strike Rangers had the Cardinals down
to the last strike twice? What year was that? Rangers
Cardinals World Series that would have been twenty eleven, is it?

(01:42:54):
Because the Giants one in ten, twelve, and fourteen, So
we're gonna go t Yeah, because the Brewers lost to
the car that's right. And I remember who is the
lefty that pitched for the Rangers in that series at
the time, my son it's two thousand eleven. Uh see,
Hayes was born in two thousand nine, and he was

(01:43:14):
starting to show signs of being left handed right, and
so my wife's like, what's the big deal with him
being left handed? And I remember that one of who's
the dude? I think he used to pitch for the
Reds God, who was it? And he comes in I'm
gonna say late in game six and he's warming up
in Game six in the pen, and I was like,

(01:43:34):
see that guy, he's like forty one, he's still pitching.
That's why it's a big deal that he's left hand.
Thought Darren Oliver was then Yeah, I think it was
Darren Over. I think it was Darren Over and yeah,
I was Darren Oliver. Darren Over pitched in game six,
but I remember Darren Oliver warming up in the pen
and I was like, hey, honey, see that guy, he's

(01:43:54):
like forty two years old. Um, actually he's now he's
forty seven. So back in two thousand eleven he was
what forty one years old, probably one forty two. He
turned forty two and he's still pitching and he's still
pretty good because he comes in and get lefties out. Favorite.
I'm trying to think who my favorite angel of all time?

(01:44:15):
That's easy. Jim Abbot, no question, Jim Abbot favorite angel
of all time? Now obviously your places best angel of
all times. Mike Trout, Favorite Avengage of all time. Jim
Abbott and Wally Joiner Rookie Year. Wally, We're Wally World.
It's pretty cool. Speaking of Dan, buy what he got? Dan? Well,
we got a game one of the World Series coming
up tonight. It's the Astros and Dodgers playing in Los Angeles.

(01:44:38):
Cover John Fox starts at seven thirty Eastern time, with
the game time temp hovering around one hundred. We're gonna
say the forecast right now, saying nine seven degrees when
the first pitch is thrown just after five o'clock a
local time. The Astros are here, of course, because of
great pitching and their m VP candidate jose L two
were hard to beat when when he's right and and

(01:44:59):
he's right a lot of days, the hits are real,
the defense is real. The the presence that he's starting
to grow into um as a leader. You know, I'll
beeit a quiet one. Uh is is felt by all
of us, whether it's players, coaches, organization, in in in
the whole city of Houston. That's astro skipper A J.
Hinch on L two of a Hinge putting Dallas Kaiko
on the hill. Tonight, Clinton Kershall throws for the Dodgers again.

(01:45:21):
You'll see it on Fox Corey Seeger on the World
Series roster. He'll bat six to night to play shorts
at six tonight and play shortstop for the Dodgers. Some
NFL news Panthers tendant Greg Olson could return as soon
as next week from his broken foot. He'd be able
to practice not able to play for another month because
he was placed on injured reserve after suffering that injury
in Week one. Eagles left tackle Jason Peter has done

(01:45:43):
for the year with torn ligaments in his knee. Spurs
forward Kawhi Leonard remains out tomorrow against the Heat because
of his quad injury and Doug Tonight the Cavaliers faced
the Bulls. J R. Smith is gonna play in the
game despite a sore back. How about this starting lineup
tonight for the Calves j R. Smith, Kevin Love, Christin Thompson,
Lebron James, and Jake Crowder. Jay Crowder gets hard, you know,

(01:46:05):
gotta give him some greediness, toughness, versatility. That's a that's
a lot of big guys, I guess in a lot
a lot of maybe ball handling responsibilities for Lebron. Yeah,
Lebron essentially playing the point card position, which is what
he's played a lot of point forward. Now he's gonna
play pure pure point cards. All right, We finally, how
we secured our special guest? Have we? I believe we have? Um? Alright,

(01:46:27):
so we have a star baseball analyst. Heyes, Gottlieb joining
us on the way to World Series Game one? Heyes?
How are you good? Okay? Most important question I think
America wants to know? Did you have a good day
in school? Um? Well, what's pretty good? Boring though, but
did you okay? So they have green cards, yellow cards,

(01:46:51):
red cards, and if you clip down you go from
green green to yellow. Yellow is bad news? Did you
clip down today? Okay, that's good. Favorite part of a
school was what today? M pe? What did you play
in Pe? I did hoping? You did? What? Hula hooping?

(01:47:12):
How are you a good hula hooper? Yes? I was
completely unaware. I thought only Harper, your sister, was a
good hula hooper. Um. How many of your friends did
you tell you're going to the World Series? Um? Maybe
fifteen friends? So you were bragging? Are you bragging a

(01:47:33):
little bit at school? No? Wait? Wait, maybe ten? Who
is the most excited for you? Who is like Heyes,
You're so lucky, You're awesome. I can't believe you're going
to the World Series. You have the coolest dad ever? Um? Hmmm,
I don't know do you have? Do you have the
coolest dad ever? Yeah? Oh, there's no question. Okay. So

(01:47:54):
Clayton Kershaw is pitching tonight. What do you have in
common with Clayton Kershaw? See? Birthday? And what else? And
what else? There? You go, there's there, there's there's all three. Um.
Do you have faith in Clayton Kershaw? Do you think
he'll he'll pitch well tonight? Yes? Okay? Um, I have

(01:48:17):
I have guessed that you're gonna eat a Dodger dog
with an excessive amount of ketchup? Is that an accurate
skating report on your on your on your hot dog game? Um,
I'm going to put a lot of catchup. What else
are you gonna eat when we're at at the ballpark? Popcorn? Popcorn? Um?
Do we want sunflower seeds? Yes? What kind of gum

(01:48:37):
should I get your big gum guy during a baseball game?
What kind of gum? Big lead, regular or great flavor?
Big League? To correct answer that is the correct? Correct
answer is always great? Um? All right, this is a
lot of sugar, a lot of calories. Are we drinking water?
Are we drinking soda at the game? Right answer? Or beer?
Beer is the other answer? I know you like to

(01:48:58):
have a good beer when hutching a baseball game. Okay,
it's gonna be really really hot. Are you gonna be
whining and complaining? Or you're gonna sit and cheer for
the for the Dodgers? Okay? Do you feel a little
ikey though cheering for the Dodgers because we're angel fans? Uh? No,
I feel good? Okay? Are you excited? Yes? All right,

(01:49:19):
I'll see you in a little bit. I love you, buddy. Okay,
that's Hayes gott label who are's our resident baseball analysts
Steve sax blew us Off. We chose to go with
a little bit younger, Jim. We're trying to skew younger
on the show. You can't get any younger in terms
than than than an eight year old. Right, he's a millennial. Correct,
he has a millennial. He was actually he was actually
tweeting out his appearance live on periscope, while doing his

(01:49:44):
story on Instagram, um, while on the way and snapchatting
it as well, all three on devices, all while being
driven in an uber on his way to the stadium. Yes,
by you had something you want to I thought take
on Catchup was great? Like that hot is going to
be loaded? Do you like catch Up? Is that why
he does? It's just something he likes. He just likes. Yes, Okay,

(01:50:06):
I actually like honestly like, I actually like hot dogs. Plane. Um,
I'll do him Plane, I will do them with I
like him with ketchup, I'll do Mustard. I I think
mustard is way underrated. Ketchup is overrated, but I don't
like the yellow mustard. I like more the great pop
eat type of pole, type of mustard. But yeah, like, oh,

(01:50:28):
it's a hot dog, you done anything like? It tastes good.
It's got a lot of the salt and fat and
grease and meat and good. Like I'm not gonna hate
hate anybody for eating a hot dog night watching a
ball game. And here's the other part about it, Like
baseball is definitely better to be watched at I at home,
Like you can see every pitch. You got the and
you got Smoltz calling the game and Joe Buck call

(01:50:49):
in the game, and it's it's good. But it's the Dodgers.
It's close. The folks of Fox Sports got us a
couple of tickets, And to me, it's it's the I
do a lot of things that I do, Like last
night I ran in his basketball practice and I was
remembering all those practices with my dad. And tonight I
get a chance to go to a World Series, first
time I've gone since I went to the World Series

(01:51:10):
with my father and eight So but that game was
boring a sin, it was too nothing I think I have.
I don't even look. I'm not even looking at the score,
but I think I know the score. I believe it was.
It was too nothing. Game two of the World Series.
I feel like I think that was I think five nothing.
We might have left when it was two nothing. This

(01:51:31):
is also a weird thing. Was I nothing? Well, I yeah,
I was there too, so I think it was five
nothing Dodgers and you shut him out. I know, six nothing,
six nothing. We're both wrong. Uh. Dave Parker had three hits.
He was the only player to have a hit for
the Oakland A's the Bulldog or Hershiser, who was incredible
that year when nine innings, struck out eight and did so.

(01:51:52):
How many pitches did he throw? I don't see how
many pictures he actually threw. That's pretty crazy. How good
was Royal Hershiser back then? Man? He was? Would we
would we determined as fifty eight innings that he went scoreless. Yeah,
he actually went one ending into the next season against
the Reds and then he was right. It was regular
season scoreless straight. Yeah, he was really really incredible. I

(01:52:13):
think you only through eight seven pitches that game. But
when you think, I know, you got a break, But
when you think about it, that may be. I mean,
I know, Gibson, I'm not gonna Gibson somewhere, but that
may have been a better game, like for the Dodgers,
like an actual like shutout just Hershires are mowing people
down and just was a good game to watch. As

(01:52:34):
far as like the last second Gibson home run, that
was kind of like, you know, what are you talking about? Well,
I just think like as far as a Dodger game
for that World series, that second game was death one
player one player domination? Is that possibly a better game?

(01:52:54):
I'm serious, Like Dennis actorously, here's how good he was
that year. Just just oh, I know what, I understand,
you know, okay, And I know Buyer absolutely knows. But
there's a lot of people that are more that are
music like Ryan music, Like what's the big deal? But
this Kirk Gibson home run, it wasn't just that Kirk
Gibson was was hurt. It was that that year he

(01:53:15):
won the cy Young Award. He won the m v
P A couple of years later, right as SeeMe me.
A couple of years later, Dinnis secretly won the cy
Young in the m v P. That year he finished
second the cy Young. He won the Rolaids Award. He
had forty five saves. He had a two point three
four e r A. In addition to that, he only

(01:53:35):
gave up five home runs all season Longwy like five
home runs, but he's a closer. He pitched in sixty
games to give up five home runs. Where's the strikeouts
to walk ratio he had? He gave up, he walked
eleven and he struck out. Where's the case on this sheet?
Strikeouts per nine nine strikeouts per nine innings. Where's the strikeouts? Strikeouts?

(01:53:58):
Seventy strikeouts? Uh walked to Levin, so almost a seven
to one strikeout to walk ratio. That's incredible. He was
thoroughly completely dominant. And remember this is before you had
inter league, so they hadn't seen him before. I mean,
I guess they had when he was People forget he
was a Chicago Cub starter and then reliever, so they
had seen him a couple of years before, but they

(01:54:20):
hadn't seen him that year. And Kirk Gibson was that
Kirk Gibson's first appearance against him might have been because
Gibbey was with the Tigers before that, so to not
see a guy he came down submarine style, right hander
to left hander. He comes up limping up looks like
completely feeble and a and you're down. What a run

(01:54:44):
heading into the bottom of ninth inning and he hits
a walk off home run. You mean to tell me
that a sixth nothing complete in visceration by Oral or
Herscheiser was a better game. Maybe because I was there.
I was there, and I will be honest and tell
you Game one was it was like this game this
once hit got to ecklessly. He felt like the series
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Can't buy what he got? All right? We got some
World Series flavor to start it off. First of all,
let's talk about the guy who's not going to be there,
Adrian Gonzalez on family vacation, and it'llly remember he is
not with the Dodgers because of a sore back. I
guess it's more of a question, Doug. But some people
seem to have a problem with Adrian Gonzalez not being
with the Dodgers. Yeah, I got a problem with Adrian
gonzalas to sore back in your on you on holiday, Like,

(01:57:03):
it's not quite Uh, Cedric Savallo's going to have a suit.
But it's not in the middle of the Lakers season. Um,
but it's not far behind. It's really not. Yeah, this
is a it's a bad look. That's a bad look. Well.
The Dodgers that will be there tonight include Clayton Kershaw
and Dodgers skipper Dave Roberts says he expects Kershaw to

(01:57:24):
go deep tonight innings wise, not at the plate pause.
So the thoughts of the bullpen maybe being used, Yeah,
it could be ready, but Dave Roberts wants his ace
to go a while this c Yeah, that sounds great.
Dave Roberts is gonna go to the sixth inning. We've
seen what Clayton Kershaw does in the seventh inning, and
now is not a time to act with bravado. You
have to have feel and we'll see what he feels like.

(01:57:47):
You know, it wouldn't be crazy to have Kenley Jansen
go too winnings, especially when these guys haven't seen him.
Little gamesmanship already with the Astros and Dodgers. The Astros
had their workout delayed, and then when they finally got
on the field, they heard soft rock music being played
from the speakers of Dodger Stadium. Astro skipper A. J.
Hinch said today that they're going to have something for
the Dodgers when the series shifts to Houston. A little

(01:58:11):
Coast one oh three playing the back. This is not
a joke. Careless was Careless whisper playing Maybe our teammate here,
Delilah was rocking yeah? Or what's the Ellen Kay, Ellen
Kay and the more Ellen Kay. They had Ellen Kay
rock in the Coast one oh three hits Little Cindy
Lauper girls just wanna have fun. They liked that song.

(01:58:33):
Rick Springfield and Cindy Lauper are always ever anytime there's
a group karaoke. That's what the ladies like the thing.
Based upon my personal experience. Eagles gotta win last night,
but lost left tackle Jason It was closed. It was
like Jason Peter's gonna miss the rest of the year.

(01:58:53):
Eagles left tackle tour ligament to his knee. Philly also
lost lonebacker Jordan Hicks last night against Washington. Yeah, so
I guess we'll see um. Like I thought, Carson Wentz
looked great, but a lot of guys look great when
they have their full allotment of offensive line, Whereas when
you don't have your offensive line sometimes things can break down.
On the one game suspension, give it a Raiders running
back Marshawn Lynch was upheld. So he's gonna miss Sunday's

(01:59:15):
game against the Buffalo Bills. That makes sense. He come
on the field, uh to not only break up a
fight that you're not involved in, but then push the referee.
At least one game should be thankful. It's only one game,
you know. I got a correction to make because earlier
on the show, and I said Mike Tomlin was talking
about Martavis Bryant, I used the term he's got to
show some maturity. Well, Tomlin actually said that they had
a lot invested into Martavis Bryant. The maturity factor came

(01:59:38):
from Marvin Lewis when talking about Joe Mixon. The Bengos
head coach, said today that Mixing needs to show maturity
instead of making comments about not getting touches and games.
As Mixing complained about the lack of a running game
used in the second half of their loss to the Steelers. Well, look,
when you're a rookie, you can't say anything even if
you're right. Um, and this is it's really no diff

(02:00:00):
It's not really different than t Y Hilton. Like t
Y Hilton wasn't wrong saying his offensive line got pushed around,
but that doesn't mean you can say it buck nuts
in all. Ohio State, Yes, buck nuts, it's called buck Nuts.
Reported on Friday that Penn State tried to stop Ohio
State from wearing an all gray alternate uniform for their
show down at the Shoe. The complaints centered around the

(02:00:22):
buck Eyes uniforms not having contrasting numbers on them, but
Ohio State going with a full gray set, maybe even
a little gamesmanship on behalf of the and when the
lebron James cleats to which are sick red cleats. With
those there no no laces, they're just velcrow. It's it's
it's a pretty cool look. The only thing is I
don't love them because you know, Ohio State, you have

(02:00:44):
iconic uniforms. You don't need that stuff. But the uniforms
aren't designed for me and you because universe designed for
recruits and recruits. The kids love them. It's like it's
like spaceballs, the flamethrow kids love them, and Doug earlier
the show you talked about ya does Sintenna Kompo and
everybody trying to be the first well. Bavada now lists
the Bucks forward as the favorite to win the nb

(02:01:06):
NBA's MVP Award. Janice is listed as a five to
two favorite. Lebron second at five to one. That's because
everybody like going crazy. Remember there's there's so many There's
Russell Westbrook, There's Kevin Durant, There's James Harden, there's you know, uh,
you name it. There are other there are plenty of
other options. But look, everybody is they're all hip on Janice.

(02:01:29):
I think it's terrific player. I don't think he's gonna
have a story seven, the entire season. Bag it out
there and pressed. That was the press. This Kurt Shop
pitched through the seventh Romstco No music, no U, Dan Buyer, Yes,
I think he's done. At the end of the sixth inning,
Sidney Katz is coming in to host the last fifteen
seconds of the show. This is still the Doug Gottlip

(02:01:52):
Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm going to the game
with my kid. Hope you watch and hope you enjoy it.
We'll talk about it all tomorrow and talk some football
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