The NFL Has a Lot of Problems

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Boom, What Up America, Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio coming to you live and
direct from the City of Angels, where we, like all
of you, are waiting for Fox's coverage Game three of
the World Series tonight live from Houston. But uh, Houston,

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I mean, look, I I struggle sometimes with this idea
that that city championship, state championships somehow bring peace to
people who have been whose lives have been changed forever
by natural disasters or or man made disasters, either one.
Houston has been through a lot, and the baseball team

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was playing and is trying to win their first championship
for the city. I don't know if that, I don't
That doesn't fix anybody's home. That doesn't that might pert
their spirits up for a moment. But Houston is kind
of the epicenter of a story that broke earlier today,
which ESPN dot Com detailed the behind the scenes workings,

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behind the scenes workings of that. Remember that the owners meetings,
the league meetings going back what it's like a week
and a half ago in New York City, in which
some players came in and met with the owners. But
they were also owner only meetings, some attended by all
the owners, some attended by uh groups of owners and
owner representatives. And and in that what people are doing

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is what we'll look. We're bastardizing every story. That's what
we do. And DeAndre Hopkins sadly is falling, uh, falling
to the falling to the headline, like so many of
us do. I'm not sure what I'm bothered by more
the fact that people misunderstand, misunderstand a commonly used expression

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or phrase, or the fact that really smart people can
misstate a commonly used expression or face. Because that's really
what happened. Bob mcnaire is the owner of the Houston Texans.
I've never heard him called racist ever before. Um, And
of course people are going to say that what he
said was racially insensitive on some levels, because you have

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black players in the NFL and some white payers protesting
police brutality, some protesting, uh, some protesting simply what the
president has said. The President has done like a protest
to the anti protest protest protest right, and uh uh,
it's left with this confusing thing. So here's what Bob

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McNair said, and the quote is, um, we can't have
the inmates running the prison. Now here's the first thing,
bobbc neare misused. It's really frustrating to me. I'm I'm
not gonna sit here and walk around say'm amentum embrum
smarter than people. But I do know that unless you
know the expression, don't use the expression. And if you
have really good friends, they should tell you, like, hey,

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do this another way to use that. Okay, it's inmates
can't run the asylum. The asylum, Oh, the asylum, which
actually doesn't make sense because if it's an insane insane asylum,
they're not actually I mean, if it's insane, asylum is
actually a word for prison, but insane asylum is generally

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what inmates can't run the asylum? Could you could have gone?
Which we have too many chiefs in that nevia and
he is well, oh wait, that expression that would be
insensitive to Native Americans, even though um we misidentified Native
Americans as Indians. This is going back hundreds of years ago.
Um boy, this is a tough one. Yeah, but I

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think we actually know what Bob mcnare is talking about.
And that's the crazy part about it. Yes, he probably should.
It's a miss miss you shouldn't have said prison, because
now it's like, oh, well, you're talking about black guys,
you're talking about cops talking about prison, and DeAndre Hopkins
obviously is I'm just gonna be blunt. He's not smart

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enough to understand the nuance of what he's saying. But
it's it's true in my profession, and I'm guessing it's
true in your profession. That though employees can can band
together and say like, hey, look we we have a
part of this company. Um, we want to be part

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of your future. But this is the way, this is
how we would It was some of the things we
like enacted, but demanding a course of action, demanding the
ability to protest, and not having the wherewithal the understanding
of all the things going on in the business. That's

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classic employee stuff, right, classic employee stuff. Richard Branson, I
believe you can you work for Virgin right, You're gonna
take sick days, you can take off whatever you want.
You know, I'm no limit to sick days, no limit
to whatever. Now it works in some fields. The problem

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is on there's a multitude of levels. One is a
collective Barten agreement. So the workforce has negotiated with ownership
in the past and that. But the bigger thing is
if you actually read the article, and it's a long article,
this the Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. If you
actually read, there's a lot of stuff out there. There
are a lot of pitfalls in the business of the

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National Football League. And while players simply think there's like
everybody thinks in linear fashion, everything's caused effect, cause effect,
because that's that's what we're told. Because that's was really
really easy. It's really really easy to think that way
that I do something, it's going to cause this thing,
and if I protest this thing, it could cause a
disruption within the business, which will cause what I want

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to happen to happen. That's great. There's a lot of
other stuff. Look, um, people have predicted dooming gloom for
the NFL, and I don't know whether they're right right now,
but I think, uh, there there is some foresight there
from the Mark Cubans of the world. The protest is

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only a small fraction of the issues that the NFL
is working on. The head of a Fox, a pet
of Foxes said like, hey, look, the reason for the
ratings decline is frankly, because there's a proliferation of NFL
on TV. It's the same thing that happened to college basketball.
In college football, there's nothing special about a nationally televised

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NFL game. There was one on last night. Did you
watch it? You might have? You turned on You're like, oh,
Matt Moore, yell Ravens. The Ravens aren't even any good
and the Dolphins could do nothing with the Ravens, Like
the most interesting thing. The most interesting thing is our
discussion over Kiko Alonso's dirty hit on Joe Flacco. And
it was dirty. Whether it was an intentionally dirty hit

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or not, whether it was a planned dirty act or not.
But it's dirty. You launch yourself your head and then
eventually your shoulder hits a quarterback who's sliding, especially one
that's six ft six and you're a guy that's launched
yourself earlier in the game. It's a dirty play. There's
no way around it. But even players that come out
and defend it, they don't understand all of the other

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things working against you. Look, let me let me lay
out the issues for the NFL. First of all, ratings
are down. Why there's a bunch of reasons. The first
thing is that football has always been a sport incredibly
dangerous when you and I were kids, At least when
I was a kid, Romos was a kid. Music is
a little bit younger. I mean he he just graduated
high school. Um. When when we were kids, it was

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hard to get your mom to sign the permission slip
because people worried about being paralyzed and worried about your
knees and your back right. And of course we still
have stories of kids yearly being paralyzed by football, but
we don't even talk about anymore because now we've discovered
that that's only part of what football will do to you.
It can It gives a brain sales son. Wasn't that
what Margan Freeman said? And was it standby do the

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right thing? No, not to the um uh lean on me,
lean on me right, Remember he is Uh Joe Clark.
The principle in d C right kills brain sales done right.
That's what football kills. Brain cells. You have former stars
killing themselves, former stars who are incapacitated, and football is
at least partially to blame. So you're gonna have a

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declining number of young kids wanting to play football. You
have a declined number of parents who want to let
their kids play tackle football. Heck, even Drew Brees that
started a new flag football league because he doesn't believe
people should play tackle football until they get to high
school age. You have declining numbers and participation, so you're
not gonna be able to refill with the top level athletes. Uh,

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you don't have the feel good feelings from former players
because so many of them their bodies are mangled and
now their brains are too. TV numbers are down partially
because of that, partially because look, it's on every night.
It's not all that special, right, It's just not um.
And when the numbers are down, then all of a sudden,
the sponsors start to go like, hey, wait, look you

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promised me at for ratings and I'm getting X minus
one and X minus three, so I want some of
my money back. And then the country is being at
least partially divided, some by the president, but often by
how the protests are viewed. And so what Bob McNair
is saying, in not so many words and not using

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the expression the cliche accurately is hey, players can't tell
us what's good for our business. We are businessmen, you know.
The last thing is, and this is really important. Some
owners and this is NBA, this is Major League Baseball,
this is NFL. Like Look, Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys
for I don't know, it's like a hundred and fifty
hundred and sixty million dollars. It's worth like four billion dollars.

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So he got in when prices were low. He's put
a bunch of money into the stadium, and he's been
rewarded as such. He can sit there and anytime he
needs he needs money, he can cash in on the
equity of his football team. But that's not the way
it is for everybody. A lot of a lot of
owners spent a lot the money and lose money on
a daily basis only to make money in the value

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of the team, and then don't want to sell that.
I want to Why do I have to sell this business?
I want to make money in my business. But it's hard.
It's competitive. You're competing with baseball, you compete with basketball,
NBA's hot, you compete with college sports, you're competing with MLS,
you're competing off of the same dollars. Hey, here's another thing.
Like the TV product is so good, it's really hard
to get people. Why would you go to an NFL game?

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Have you ever gone? It's terrible. You can't watch the
other games. What if your game sucks? And if your
game is good, you gotta you gotta fight traffic, you
gotta pay for parking. Then you gotta decide to get
there early. Remember if it's a Sunday, like, that's a
family day. Now you gotta beg your wife. Do you
want to bring your wife and kids? And if you
bring your wife and kids, now it's kind of a
guy event. Not everybody. You know, you can't really select

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the clientele you're around. You think you're priced out of
the Ruffians, but they're still they're like the whole thing.
So stadiums aren't full because it's not special about an
NFL game. So you're dealing with declining attendance, declining ratings. Uh,
sponsors who want hey, hey, I want to make goods
on these deals here and oh yeah, by the way,
we got protests going on, so listen. DeAndre Hopkins and

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NFL players, I respect you, like, look you've got issues,
and I I I fully even if he said I'm
fully respectful of wanting to curb I want to curb
police brutality. Who doesn't. Who doesn't. That's not good for
anybody's business, not good for your City's not good for tourism,

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not good for home values or franchise values. It's not
But the inmates can't run the asylum, the prison, the
football team. And if you're bothered by the use of
the word inmates, sorry, that's a U problem. You don't
understand the expression, Well, you come up to speed on
the expression. I'll fill you in on the business acumen
that you don't have. Men like look look around the NFL.

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Odell Beckham Jr. Out for the year. You think that
helps the chiant thing to helps business? Aaron Rodgers probably
out for the year. I think that helps business. J J.
Watt out for the year. Like the most popular NFL
player who has cashed in his positive equity to raise
thirty seven million dollars for hurricane relief, Like that, dude's
not playing. These guys are made out to be heroes

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and they are celebrated as such, and they're not playing.
That's all gonna hurt business. So I'm not saying your
protests aren't important. To you. But I mean even if
you say, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Oh
oh so, now so now you're I'm just a dog
and you're just Yeah, listen, dude, these are expressions. These

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are expressions. This is the way it works in business.
And if you don't respect and appreciate that there's a
lot of other stuff, there's a lot of other things
at play, then then I can't really I can't really
help you can't really help you. All Right, This is

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He's a two time Super Bowl champion, a longtime defensive coordinator.
Rob Bryan is gonna be our guest upcoming. Um, I
gotta ask him, like, how does how do you handle it?
Your like, your football guy and all you worry about

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his football, Like, how do you handle this? Especially Texans
going in to take on the Seattle Seahawks. Plus have
the Patriots figured things out? Or is it just the
Atlanta Falcons are inept offensively right now? Matt Holiday later
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Let's welcome and he's a two time Super Bowl champion.
He's Rob Ryan. He joins us. He's a Fox NFL
analyst and um, Rob, last night we're watching um, not
great football. Thursday football have been good the past couple
of weeks. Was not great last night. I think the
big the big question is from a defensive guy's perspective,
what's your take on the Kiko Alonso hit? Well, I

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think clearly, you know, once the guy's on the runs,
he's trying to get the first down, but he's going
into a slide. You can't do that, and uh, you know, hey,
look there's a fine line between right and wrong. But
he knows he was wrong. And he's done that before,
but uh, you know you can't do that the games
right now, the rules are to protect the quarterback. And

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and I was shocked there wasn't more fouls called on
that play. You know what what's interesting about it is,
I mean, look, you've been around obviously with your dad
and your brother. You guys, your your whole life is
football is defensive football. And you know, I draw the
parallel to basketball in that kind of the fundamental aspect
of it. Like, Okay, he didn't spare him, but so

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oftentimes guys have gotten away with poor poor form, right,
like he's not. I was taught at a really young
age in the early eighties, right, like see which always
see what you hit, there's a certain position that you
need to tackle and by launching yourself I didn't. Does
the play end up being dirty? Yeah? Um, but it
was simply avoidable if he used proper, fundamentally fundamental tactics.

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It's just like basketball, Like dudes are so into hitting
threes that they they and and overhandling the basketball. They
missed some of the finer elements, the fundamentals that catching
the jump, stopping the pivoting that that guys skip over.
Is that what more? What Kiko? Because Kiko was he
was hurtled earlier in the game on the same type
of play. Like it seems to me that, yeah, he's

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a vicious hitter, but by launching himself, it's just bad form. Well,
I mean, you know, I think, um, it's hard to
rule the intent of a guy, but clearly the rules
are you know, they've been in place now for a while.
And shoot back in the day, man, you used to
unload on these quarterbacks, but you can't do it anymore.
You've gotta be smarter than that. You're hurting your team. Uh. Look,

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he lowered his shoulder, put his forearm in there. I mean,
it's not like he didn't mean to hit him. You know,
if you're gonna if you're gonna go over him, you're
gonna go over him. You're not gonna lower your you know,
uh flipper and and hit him in the chin with
your or in the ear with your with your forearm.
I mean, uh, you can miss if you want to miss.
I know, Look, he was there. Is that fine line?

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Is he slighter? Is he not? He went with it.
He's not unloaded on him. But you know, you gotta
know better than that. You know, that hurts the team,
It hurts the player more, you know more importantly. Right now,
the league's doing everything they can to protect quarterbacks. And
it's usually because the you know, the quarterbacks a star
and the guy back and I'm up making a hundred

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thousand dollars, So you know, there's a there's a huge
difference there. And and look they're doing it all over
they're doing it for the concussions. Uh, you know, you
can't hit a defenseless player and shoot people used to
get their biggest hits, all all the big hit reels.
We're hitting defenseles players. But uh, you know, the game
scenes that way, and uh, you know you don't have

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to like the rules, you just gotta play by. You
can hear Rob Ryan alongside Mark Willard every Sunday right
here on Fox Sports Radio starting at one pm Eastern Time,
reacting live to all the NFL games. Uh, Rob Ryan
kind of have to spend some time of this year
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, So why the
Dolphins have an offensive minded head coach? Right, Gays is

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supposed to be this kind of offensive savant um and
on paper, you have Landry, who's a big time wide receiver. Uh,
and know Matt Moore is is the backup. As you said,
there's a reason guys are a backup. But he's been
a productive quarterback. But they haven't been productive no matter
who they're quarterback has been Why is Miami's offense? Yeah,

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I think it's four games they've been shut out in
the first half. I think that's a that's a crazy
statistic because usually you're game planning, especially on offense, you've
got your first twenty or first fifteen, you know, and
they're set to score, you know, to attack what the
defenses have shown to be weaknesses, a weakness in and
a motion, you know, a weakness on a certain coverage.

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I mean, that's what you're supposed to attack. I mean
I remember, as a defensive coach always said, you know
my plan. You know, I'm just gonna be multiple. We
had eight teen games in a row we were never
never a lot of touchdown. That was a record for
the Browns. But then we played the worst team the
league who gave one up. I was like, what the heck?
But you I mean, it's it's it's strange to have

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a head coach that's you know, that's an offensive minded guy.
To struggle this badly at the start of games. It
makes no sense. Uh, you know, unless he's you know,
wearing himself then where he's doing all the the media
and all that stuff, and and it's and it's hurting
his preparation. I mean that that could be. Um, it's

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it's fast and watch. Let me ask you about the Patriots.
Obviously a defense in a style and a coaching staff
you know very very well. Um, Look, I was it
them or was the Falcons? Like because no one else
had been shut down by the Patriots defense and then
the Falcons seem to have a ton of weaponry. I mean,
is it have they just gotten better there without two

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quarterbacks and they play statistically their best game of the year.
Is that the Patriots defense getting better or just Atlanta's
offense being anept I think it's the Patriot defense getting better.
I think over the last three weeks they've held the
port opponents down. I know they've given up a lot
of yardage, but they haven't given up a lot of points.
And traditionally that's what Belichick cares about. He doesn't care

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about yardage as as Um, you know per se, he
cares about keeping him out of the end zone, playing
great situational football, and lately they've been doing that on defense.
I know it's been without Steph Gilmore. Looks like they're
making less mistakes. Uh it looks it looks to me
they're going back with more coverage, more man demand coverage

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than uh than they were earlier in the season. And uh,
you know they've had success with it. It was last
week was was crazy. You've seen man coverage with a
with a less cornerback, uh, not a regular playing against
Julio Jones and the slot. But they're leaning the safety
on them. But it's still showing post safety defense there
Russian five guys. You know that means they're leaning on

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top of Julio, means everybody else is one on one.
But uh, they were successful with it. They've been successful
with doing that a lot. They they ran the forty
six front, which uh, which shoot I brought to New
England a hundred years ago, and uh, you know they've
had a ton of success with that in the past,
and uh, you know they're gonna have to come up
with more ways now at high towers out getting David

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Harris on the field. We'll we'll add a good veteran presence.
He's he's a real smart player, uh, you know, and
I think he'll put him in the middle, move Van
Noi back outside probably where he belongs, and and they'll
be just fine. Rob Ryan joining us in the doug
Otlip Show. What about the Saints another defense that the
last time they were any good, you were you were
down there, uh calling coing defensive signals. Um is, I

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think they look great lately, you know, I think, um
really both sides of the ball. Uh, they've been excellent.
They've they've they're sneaking up on people now and then
they've won four straight. They look really good. They look
like an overall team and uh, you know, their pressure
in the quarterback a lot. Uh, they're you know, forcing
people to make mistakes and and uh uh you know,

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so I think their schedule looks good for him too.
So I think that team is really gonna hit their
stride right about now. And uh, look, they can string
together some wins. They've they've done it before. Uh and
with Drew Brees a quarterback, and then they could be
real hard team to handle. You know, there's there's two
teams who I think their defensive fronts don't get enough mentioned.
And and one is the Eagles, And it's not because

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I I think people don't respect the Eagles, but because
people are so infatuated with Carson Wentz that they're not
pointing out how good their defensive front is. The other
would be the San Diego San Diego, the l A Chargers,
who they go into England this week. I mean, you
have Bosa, you have Ingram. Those two are animals getting
after the quarterback. Am I wrong to think that because
of all the other stuff going on in the NFL

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and our infatuation with quarterbacks and running backs and skill
position guys, that those those two fronts maybe kind of
get get get lost in the wash. No, those two
are as good as there as there is. I know
they've got first round The Chargers have first round tackles
as well, So I mean they they you know, should
be a dominant front. And those ends are really playing well.

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Uh you know, you gotta take your tip your hat
to the way Anthony linzmen able to get that team
to respond after an old and four starts to keep playing.
Now they've won three straight. Their defenses playing lights out
under gust Bradley and uh, you know, so that's you know,
that's great for them. But with with Ingram and Bosa

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even though they're their best corner, Baretta is out. Uh,
their defense is playing really well now and they're gonna
have to be because, uh, you know, if Brady knows,
you better lie to Brady. Even as good as your
front as, you better be lying to him. Make him
read post snap, or he's gonna light you up. And
that's the thing. Uh, you know, there's not a lot
of disguise on that defense, so it could be a

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hard game for them. Uh. Talent wise, they've got everything
you want, but you better be lying to that. If
you're not lying, you're not trying against Brady and you're
not going to be successful. So that'll be an interesting game.
I think Philadelphia, Uh, they they drafted a kid from Tennessee, Barnette,
who's who's really helped them. Uh, They've added other guys,

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They've they've got Curry still in there, and of course
with Fletcher Cox getting healthy, Uh, there was dominant of
front as you can get to rush the passer. I think, uh,
the truth is going to be in the pudding as
As the season gets on, those nine techniques always get
wider and wider, and eventually they don't slow up the run.
Right now, they're doing good playing the run, but that

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that kind of wears on you as the season goes,
and those wide nines usually get exposed by the end
of year. So to be interested in the seat right now. Uh,
with Wents doing a fantastic job, their defense playing well, Uh,
the Eagles are really are really playing good football, Rob Bryan.
You can hear Sundays here on Fox Sports Radio at
one pm Eastern Time, alongside side Mark Willard. Rob, thanks

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so much for joyce Ben enjoy the weekend. We love
having you on. Alright, my friend, I bet you really
like that ball kid out there with the Lakers. I
know a guy used to pass the ball like that.
I used to play at Oklahoma State, was pretty good player. Yeah,
and honestly we shot. We shoot about the same too,
So that's the there's there's a lot of there's a
lot of similarities there. Yeah. No, I like I like
I like I they can dime people up. Coach. Thanks

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being labeled a racist. That's cool. I've that's cool. Uh Dan,
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I'm a racist for saying that. We have to understand
the expression that was being used, not overreacted to the
word that was being used. But whatever, How are you? Dan?
I am doing well? Um. Apparently not as uh angry

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or mad as the other Dan was, But I'm doing
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you Darvish pitches four l a lance of Colors on
the Hill for Houston. Again, that series tied up at
one apiece. As you mentioned, Duck, Texan's wide receiver DeAndre

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Hopkins wasn't at practice today for what the team is
calling personal reasons. But it really started out when Texans
owner Bob mcnara apologized for saying quote, the inmates are
running the prison when referring to players protesting the national anthem.
So he apologized for those remarks that were published in
a piece on ESPN dot com. Mcnare's comments were made
public in that piece as they came from the owners

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meetings earlier this month. The Houston Chronicle says that players
actually considered walking out of the team facilities when they
heard the comments. Today, head coach Bill O'Brien says that
Hopkins was out for personal reasons, but he expects him
to play Sunday against the Seahawks. A couple of other
notes from the NFL Vikings white out. Stefon Diggs questionable
to play against the Browns in London, but the good

(27:47):
news is is he practiced fully the last two days
returning from a groin injury, while Panther's linebacker Luke Keikley
is questionable to face the Buccaneers. He practiced all week
but needs to be cleared from a by an independent
neurologist from his concussion and the NFL Network says Redskins
corner Josh Norman will return from his rib injury and
play against the Cowboys coming up on Sunday. Doug, Yeah,

(28:08):
I'm I'm I'm uh do I have I have the
right to be a little hot over somebody named Dan
Malloyd damn Miloy TV who um uh he's a two
time Fantasy hockey champion. He works at ko z L
in the Ozarks in Springfield. Uh says that Doug Golly

(28:29):
is smarter than everyone who is offended by casual racism.
It's no big deal. I don't find I don't find um,
I don't find it, thank you. I don't find, first
of all, fantasy hockey that exists. I had no idea,
second of all. Um uh. Yeah, I don't find Bob
mcnaire's comments to be racist. If you know, you can
make if you want to be, like, that's racist, guy, Like,

(28:51):
go ahead, go for it. But inmates running the asylum,
and an asylum is in fact in prison is in
fact a saying, and it's saying that is a pro
really used employees don't get to determine what a business does,
especially one in which is collective bargaining. So like you
listened in on it, and you obviously did not read

(29:11):
the entirety of the article, which was honestly all credit
you music because music. You're like, dude, did you read
the article? I was like, as long, could you just
tell me what they said? Like no, I think you
should read the whole thing because it's really really interesting
all the things the NFL is working through. And I
guarantee this clown damn alloy didn't read read through it right,

(29:32):
like read it like wow, this is really You don't
have to like the owners. You don't have to like
kind of their stance. By the way, By the way,
it should be pointed out that the owners came to
a team, came to a vote, and a small number
of them believed in having some sort of revolution resolutional
law that you had to stand for the national anthem,
like right, like that's the way it works. Enough of
them said like, man, probably a bad idea. I mean,

(29:56):
we have reached peak stupidity when people again look at
a high headline or listen to a portion of what
I said, Like DeAndre Hopkins clearly didn't read the article.
He heard what the owner of his team set and
he freaked out and what what mature, smart people do, Like,
what what are you talking about? Are you talking are

(30:18):
you calling us as football players? Inmates? Like no, man's
an expression. Inmates can't run the asylum. Inmates can't run
the prison. He miss you, he butchered the expression. What's
he talking about? Like employees can't say what you want
to be done? It's not done immediately. Like there's a
lot more at work here than just protests. There's too
many games on TV right there's nobody wants to go

(30:40):
to games anymore because you can only watch one game
where you're better off watching it at home. The tickets
are ridiculously expensive, parking is ridiculously expensive. And by the way,
football though ridiculously violent. You know what, it's kind of
hard to watch in person, to be totally honest with you,
it's have you if you've been to an NFL game.
It doesn't exactly move along like people always This is

(31:04):
always fascinating to me. People always saying like baseball is
slow and baseball is is slow and boring, but you know,
there's less action in actual NFL games. There's violence, it's exciting.
But with the reviews, like there's a review on everything,
and when you're in the stadium, like, all right, got it, review,
let's move moving on. There's time outs all the time,

(31:24):
and when you're when you're in the stadium, like, you
don't get to flip around when there's a time out,
You're just sitting there waiting. Team will score a touchdown,
goes to review, kick the extra point, Then there's a
time out. Kick the kick, the kick off, run the
kickoff back to the twenty five yard line. Then there's
a time out. You know what you're doing the stadium.
You're sitting there doing nothing. You're looking at your phone,
which oftentimes, by the way, doesn't work in a stadium.

(31:50):
So I got it. I understand that police brutality is
important to you. We all understand that. Bob McNair didn't
say police brutality is not an important issue. He didn't
say that. He's just like, look, just because you want
to do this doesn't mean it's the right path for
our business. You haven't shelled out hundreds of millions of
dollars in the hope of making more money. Like that's

(32:11):
what I was we're doing here. We got it. We
hear you put it in the put it in the box.
What's the suggestion box considered a suggestion box. We hear you,
we're listening, got it nodded. We're not gonna make you
stand for the national anthem? Ramos, am I wrong? Here? Music?
My my off on this? No, you're not off. No, No,
I I hear you. I'm I'm sort of the same

(32:33):
way on this. I feel the players are asking for
the NFL owners to come together and do something so
that they feel like they're taking action for what they're protesting,
and not trying to get them to just stop kneeling
for the anthem. So I totally understand all of that.
What the what the players are starting to get frustrated

(32:55):
with is they don't feel like the owners are putting
it at the top of a prior pity list because
it's not right. Instead, it's it's not I'm sorry, it's
not at the top of the priority list. That's that's
not their job. Their job is to, yeah, look like
we're paying you, we're trying to make money, trying to
get people in stay, we're trying to win games like

(33:17):
it's a business. It's a business. Yeah, And I think
that's what the players are now trying to force their
hand on the issue, right, it's sort of like they're
realizing what their power is and they're trying to say, look,
we're gonna do these things that affect your bottom line,
so that that way you're forced to take action. The
thing that I worry about what the players is like obviously,

(33:40):
like you said, we're all on the side of ending
police brutality. I think that's for the most part, a
very universal thing that a lot of people can get
on board with before you before you go on, it's
very important you point that out. Like nobody's sitting here
and going like, yeah, dude, cops should be allowed to
just wail away on average citizens. Now. We also, like
I actually had the balance of knowing like, hey, being
a cop is a really really hard up. It just is.

(34:01):
I don't want my police. I don't want police, but
I don't want somebody just get pulled over for no reason.
But I also understand that most cops are doing their job,
and it's really hard now, especially when America is heavily
armed light Right, Like, you knock on my window and
you pull me over at eight thirty night. You don't
know that I don't own a weapon, right, You don't
know that I'm just trying to get home to my

(34:22):
family because that's all the cop is. You don't know
that I haven't been drinking. So you're on edge. Everybody's
on edge. And now you when there's more and more
protests over police brutality, which sometimes it's not even police brutality,
it's based upon how it's caught on a cell phone camera.
But the point is nobody, not one person sat there
and go like, hey, man, cops are always right right,

(34:45):
but on the other hand, they're not always wrong. But
I would agree with you the first thing. First, the
most important thing is nowhere in this article, no, uh,
there hasn't been an NFL official or an NFL owner
that's like, hey, we're plo probe police brutality now. And
then so I think what the players, they're trying to
force this issue because they see it from their perspective

(35:07):
and what's important to them, and it's not to disparage
that that's not important to them. But then the owners
have to look at it from their perspective. And in
this great detailed piece by ESPN, you see that there
are sponsors at play here which are on both sides,
and there's so much money involved that the that the
NFL can't just take a hard stance on this issue

(35:27):
like it's so nuanced, like to where there are sponsors
right now saying if you don't get players to stand
for the anthem, we're gonna start pulling money, So then
they want to work with them. But then there's other
sponsors on the other side of that that say, if
you force players to stand for the anthem, we're gonna
pull our money. So players are looking at it from
one perspective, and the owners are forced to have to

(35:48):
look at it from both perspective, where they want to
make the players happy, but they have to make their
sponsors happy, and they're trying to force a quick solution
into something that is very difficult to deal with in
real time. I thought your quote to me was was
really really good last week. You remember what you said
to me about social media, Uh that I always viewed

(36:08):
myself as someone who was liberal, and now the way
people react, it's making me feel as though I'm a conservative, correct,
which you're not a conservative, You're just you're actually a
thoughtful There's no place for a thoughtful human beings who
want who want to want to take in both sides,
which is what the NFL owners are being. There's there's
no there's no thought to that right that you can

(36:30):
actually listen to both sides and go like, you know what, uh,
some side, some parts are reasonable, some parts are not reasonable.
But yes, if you live on social media, especially on Twitter,
and you're somebody who is left leaning or right lean,
you will be made to feel like the most conservative

(36:50):
person on earth because inmates running the asylum is a
long used expression, or inmates using the prison, which I
run in the prison, which is the same it's it's
in the vernacular if you live against the saurus that's
the sourus dot com the same word I would have said,
running the asylum. But it's funny like like now, all

(37:12):
of a sudden, dudes are just completely freaking out and
overreacting because it's true. Employees cannot determine, solely determine the
future of a business, especially one that's worth a billion dollars.
That's generally not a good way to do business. Like
at Google, they let you bring your dog to work,
but they don't let your dog make decisions. They let

(37:37):
people have a say, but they don't have the final set.
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little continue on with you guys. Mind if we get

(38:39):
to a game of the later on the show. Is
that okay with you? Music? We were kind of discussing
this off air. Um, look, I'm I'm just as bothered.
I'm more bothered by Bob McNair, who was apologized for
the use of inmates running the prison and discussing the
protests by NFL players, like, I just don't like that
he misused the expression I hate when it is not

(39:01):
I could care less, it's I couldn't care less. I
could not care any less than I care right now,
right there is no level to which I could care
any I don't care at saying I don't care You
say I couldn't care less, right, But people misuse it
all the time. They say I could care less. I
could care less is misusing the expression. You know, here's
another one, Buyer. I don't know if you've ever heard

(39:23):
this one, and you, being of Midwestern background, you can
appreciate this. You ever here somebody say, man, that's a
tough road to hoe. Yes, yes, yes, it's you can't.
You can't hoe a road. If you can, you exceptional
biceps and triceps, right, you can't. This is a tough
row to hoe. Okay, sure, yeah, farming to hoe? Um,

(39:46):
what's your take on McNair's uh inmates running the prison thing?
Of course? The Dan Buyer. By the way, you should
listen to his show Sunday Mornings, The Fantasy Show two Hours,
which leads into the NFL and Foxes Morning Show go ahead.
I thought that he didn't know the phrase as you
were saying, And I thought that it was interesting because
in the piece when the comment was made, there were

(40:09):
there were some um, I guess looks around and there
are other comments amid as well. But there was a
point where Bob McNair went up to Troy Vincent and
apologized to his the NFL h VP that that U
took a weird look. So I thought that he got
it wrong as well. I don't think that he was
connecting the players as being inmates and they're trying to
run everything. I just think that he got it wrong. Yeah,

(40:32):
I just think he misused the expression. She's like oh man,
and then he and also you know the idea of
a lead inmates in prison black eyes and and cops
and like, ah, you know what, I should use a
different expression like where I don't. I don't even think
that was tied together. Like I don't think so either,
But I think that's what that's the correlation people are
making like, oh, he's a racist, he's a racist, He's

(40:54):
everybody is not a racist in this world. Let me
just explain something about Charlottesville. Um, white supremacist Nazis whatever
they're marching. Those people have always existed. Okay, there's this
super small sect of crazy people that are racist that
have always existed. But because there was the counter protest,

(41:17):
the violence that followed, because of the President's inability to
handle the situation, react react what I think most of
us would say is properly in his office, it became
a bigger deal. But that doesn't make Bob McNair some
racist because you are connecting a commonly used expression to
which he misused at probably a missing inappropriate time, and

(41:38):
then shortly thereafter it's like, you know, I shouldn't have
said that. You should be allowed to be a human
being and not be labeled a racist or everything you
say being racist. More on that upcoming. Will DeAndre Hopkins
play this weekend. We'll get to it next in the
Doug Godlip Show. What of Doug Godlip Show, Fox Worts

(42:00):
Radio eight seven seven Fox. There's like five people that
are mad at me, which becomes Twitter, which makes it
like fifteen people that are mad at me because I
said that. Apparently DeAndre Hopkins and other Houston Texans, uh
don't understand a commonly used expression, which is can't let

(42:21):
the inmates run the asylum, right, which he said he
butchered and said, can't let the inmates run the prison. Um.
But of course, because it's African American, mostly African American players,
black players protesting um police brutality, or some are actually
protesting the president of the United States, Let's just be honest.

(42:42):
That's what's led to a kind of a reinvigoration of
the protest. But because it it did initially center around
police brutality. Well, we're calling us inmates. You're calling this
a prison. Like, no, dude, nobody's calling it a prison.
Nobody's calling you inmates. You're making that inference on yourself.
And to that, Bob mcdaire is like, my bad, which

(43:04):
we're good. I don't know what world like everyone else
lives and I live in a world where guys say
something like, oh, my bad, right, and we're good. You know,
you should be your judge more in your actions than
your words. Like if Bob mcnire was marching in the
white supremacist parade in Charlottesville, like that would be a

(43:26):
much bigger issue than when he uses a commonly used expression.
And by the way, Butcher did that maybe a time,
to which you're like, you could make an inference if
you want. Sorry, Okay, happens right when we when you
get into cliches and when you get into you know,
idioms and and expressions, and and you use one, you're

(43:50):
like and it doesn't make sense or doesn't work or
might set you just go like, my bad. You move on. That.
That's the world that I thought we live in. But
in the in the vapid waste land, in the vortex
that is social media, it suddenly becomes you're a racist.
You're calling your players inmates, which means they're committed crimes.

(44:12):
And DeAndre Hopkins committed no crime. No, you're you're making
that assessment. You're making that assessment. I mean like, look,
he could have said, there's too many chiefs down. Enough
Indians whoa whole Indians chiefs? Hold on, we already got
the redskins and the chiefs chiefs. You're talking about the
chiefs that lost two games in a row, or you're

(44:32):
talking about Native Americans, Like it's an expression, dude, too
many chefs in the kitchen would have been would have
been better. But the chefs in the kitchen, I don't
really know that doesn't fit. It makes run the asylum
kind of fits. Just does you know somebody needs to create?
Is there an expression Ryan Music or Dan Buyer? Is

(44:54):
there an expression out there for employees trying to run
a business and run it poorly? Oh? Gosh ah, trying
to run a business and run up poorly? I don't know.
You just can't. Like listen, we like you and I Dan,
We we have our thoughts on Fox Sports Radio right
like things we would do differently. But you know what
we don't do. We don't run the company. H and

(45:16):
we we don't because we don't know a lot of
the Actually this is a here's a great one. I'll
give you a great parallel, give you a great um.
One of the one of my favorite shows that I've
ever been on, that I've guest hosted, that have been
a guest on, is the Dan Patrick Show. Okay and

(45:36):
uh Dan Show? I think for at least for the
world series isn't on in Los Angeles on his l
A affiliate five seventy five seventies, the home of the Dodgers,
right and so like, look, if I was to go
what what like this is like me and Dan locking
in arms, going like Dan show, like this is a

(45:58):
this is a if you don't know sports radio, like
sports radio right now, this is the most important time
of the year football. It's not just because of football
and baseball and basketball all and I'm to a lesser
extent college football and maybe even hockey like all intersecting.
But you're judge based on what you do in the fall,
your fall book and um so like if your day,
like that's the that's the biggest market in the country

(46:22):
on the home of the Dodgers, You're gonna get huge
numbers during the two weeks of the World Series because
people listen to their radio, then they turn off their car,
and the next morning they get up and Dan Patrick's
on and and for the last two weeks for two weeks. Now,
I think of the World Series like they're having special
local programming and all they're talking about his Dodgers dot

(46:42):
dot dot dot dot Dogger. Now, look, I don't offer
up my opinion positively negatively what I thought. You know why,
because I don't know the business of local sports radio.
And we have hundreds of local affiliates that at some
point in time they'll have some local show or some
local event to which they may not run my show
for a day for a week, and I can't fly

(47:04):
off the handle and get mad and say like you
need to do this or else. You know, you know why,
because I'm an inmate and I can't run that asylum.
I can't tell them how to do their business. You know,
so often as business based upon business relationships. And the
thing about it is, if you actually read all of
what's going on with NFL owners, you're like, wow, they
got they got some stuff going on. It's not just

(47:25):
because they have the ratings problems, problems with sponsorships, getting
people in attendance, the president coming after the league, Mark
Cuban coming after the league, the players pressuring the owners
to side with them in their stance against police brutality.
Like all of these things going on. It's not not
solely and of course concussions and c t E as
well as all the other injuries caused by the NFL.

(47:47):
Like there's a lot of stuff going on. There's also
and this is the best part about that piece, is
the owners don't agree. Like it's not like they're sitting
there lockstep and they they say, here's the suggestion, and
they'll go that's a great idea. They all because they
all come from different backgrounds in terms of where they live,
and their business model is different, and their team is different,

(48:07):
the relationship with the community is different, their ability to
fill the stadium is different. So look, I'm not it's
and I guess I'm not allowed to have sympathy for
somebody who owns an NBA team, But you own a business.
There's a lot of stuff there and you know you
can't do You can't simply go like, okay, whatever the
employees say, that's what we're going to do because it's
in their best it's in their best interest at this

(48:27):
particular time. This is the same We have this problem
in in the United States, and I don't know if
they have this problem in France and in England, but
I don't care because I live here. We have a
problem with authority. Now. Part of the problem with authority
is the authority has taken advantage of us for a
long time. There have been cops that have been brutal
towards people. There have been the misappropriation of funds by congress, people,

(48:51):
by the presidents, by by their staff. Okay, uh, they're
have I mean, perfect example is the Harvey Weinstein thing
right like the creepiest casting couch type stories you've ever heard.
There are plenty of directors and producers that have done
things the right way for years, but because of that,
it's ugly and it causes us to uh respect those

(49:11):
people in Hollywood less. So we have but a lot
of it also comes down to our own family units.
We we have dad issues, we have mom issues. We
have look but think about it. We don't like the commissioner,
we don't like the n c A. Um, we don't
like we we never like fully like the president, no
matter who the president is until the president is the
former president and then they become incredibly likable. Um Like,

(49:34):
we just we have issues. We don't like teachers, right
when when when I was a kid, Dan and I
used to get in trouble a lot. Um, I know
that surprises you. I know that's surprised of the staff
a lot. I used to get in trouble a lot.
But when I got in trouble in school, and I
would come home and I would say like, hey, the teacher,
Like there was no the teacher is wrong type of deal. Okay,

(49:56):
it was, you gotta fix it. You got a served attention,
but out. When a kid gets in trouble and he
comes home and he says, the teacher is mean, do
you you pick up the phone, you call the principle, like, hey,
why is the teacher being mean to you? Why isn't
the teacher in a better place? Why doesn't teacher work
with my son or daughter? More? You know, we come
up with all these different excuses for the child's behavior,

(50:16):
and look, some of it is our own lack of trust.
We've been violated. People have been violated by the church people.
People have violated by their congress person, by their mayor,
by a uh you know, we've had general's misstep. We
have had people in authority that have done the wrong thing.
We've had a lot of people do the right thing.
And I guess my my my thought is like you

(50:38):
can't even feel sympathy for a Bob McNair who's worth
nearly four billion. You're like, oh, he's worth four billion
dollars Like yeah, okay, Look, he's running a business. And
when it's big business a small business, you have to
take in what you employees think and all the different
aspects of your business and make really hard decisions and yeah,
you're gonna make a lot of money, a lot more.
You're worth a lot more money. That doesn't stop the
human aspect of it, Like I just can't give a

(51:00):
way every penny that I have and lose money in
my business because I simply want to do what I
perceived to be the right thing, because I have to
do what's right for the right thing is also to
try and change socially to make that, but also to
keep the cofference field. Keep your God, here's the best
best version of it. Do you see An Kwan Bolden

(51:20):
wants to come back and play, right? An Kwan Bolden
who left the NFL, and he said he left the NFL,
left the Buffalo Bills because he wanted to help enact
social change and he's a spectacular human being and God
bless him. We had him on radio. But now he
wants to come back and play. And to me, the
statement is the biggest statement is like, look, you have
a bigger platform trying to make social change. If you're playing,

(51:45):
if you're part of a team, you're part of the league,
then you do if like Colin Kaepernick is still it's
a big story, but it would he would have a
greater influence on social change if you still starting quarterback
in the league. I don't know if I made sense
that that make any sense? Yeah, yeah, you know, it's

(52:09):
I just wondered Doug does this? And because now we've
seen ESPN and the writers of this uh Seth wicker
Sham and Don Van Not I believe were the writers
coming out saying you even said to Ryan, this was
a long piece. Long piece is a very long piece.
And this no, and this portion of it is now

(52:30):
the only thing that we are taking from this very
long piece. And now I'm starting to feel do the
progress that these owners where if if you read the piece,
you read the article, felt that they made over those
two days. Does all of that get erased over this
this one comment that was pulled from this piece. That's

(52:51):
what I'm curious now, And how does this go forward?
If the Texans were told by Bill O'Brien that hey,
there's this piece coming out, our owners said this, we're
not hearing from Bob McNair talking to the players. There's
there's now it's almost a game of telephone. And did
the progress that occurred over those last couple of days
that they had in the NFL where they were trying
to meet in the middle, they're trying to do different things.

(53:13):
Does all that get lost because of this one line
that Bob McNair apologized to the people who are offended
by it in the room and apologized again. That's where
I'm like looking ahead trying to find again that that's
our problem. Was we get so caught up in one
line and not we don't read the whole piece, to
which you're like, wow, they actually they got some issues
they're working through. It's not perfect, but they're they're actually

(53:34):
I don't know if if I'm the NFL, my takeaway
is the NFL at least is properly diagnosed the fact
that they have issues right that they're not sitting They're
going to sitting there going like up top, We're awesome.
Everything's awesome. We're awesome. You you're awesome, right, because nothing
gets a compassed there that the twelve step program first,
the first uh, the first thing you have to do

(53:57):
to fix the problems identify that you have a problem.
And they have identified that they have a multitude of problems.
And they spent three days in New York trying to
address those problems and It doesn't mean that they were fixed,
but it just means that we if you get caught
up in one line to which, like you said, he
apologized for, but I don't actually think he was. He
wasn't wrong for uh, the gist of what he was saying.

(54:19):
He was wrong for how he knew that would be
perceived considering the context of what was being discussed. And like,
if you don't get that, you're not paying attention. You're
simply chasing headlines and searching for a way to be offended.
And that, in many ways is is our problem. Like right,
we instead of searching for solutions to our problem, we
searched for different people who somebody has offended me today.

(54:42):
Well that's what Troy Vincent stood up and said, I've
been called every name, but I've never been called a
an inmate. And he was really offended by it in
that meaning to Bob McNair when Bob McNair said it,
and then Bob McNair afterwards went over and apologized. And
according to the piece, it said, Vincent a pre created
the converse or the apology, not knowing what happened in

(55:03):
that conversation. But the way that the whole entire piece
sounds is that this was a point that was then
able to be moved on from Yeah, of course, of
course it is. But then you know that the information
gets passed down to a writer, and a writer writes it,
and now it spreads like wildfire and suddenly and and look,
everyone I know has heard inmates run the asylum knows
exactly what that means. Inmates run there. You know, inmates

(55:26):
running the prison. I've never heard it said prison, but whatever,
but we all know what it means. And it in
no ways, in no ways has stolely to do with players.
And even if he said inmates running the astunment, like
you're saying, we're crazy, Like, no, man, it's an expression.
I just sometimes I'm lost upon the fact that And look,
I'm lazy, and tell me when the movie comes out,

(55:48):
Like I don't want to read the book. Then when
the movie comes out, books are too hard the I
what is it that uh somewhere of people Uh read
only the headline in the first paragraph. Right, you read
the first paragraph, You're like, all right, that's it. I'm
ready to go to war, Like okay, let's there's it's

(56:10):
a it's very very well written it's very deep, it's
very insightful. But if you're getting lost on one quote
and not even paying attention to the context of that quote,
then you were searching for a way to get offended.
All right, We're gonna turn the World series up coming next. Thanks,
Thanks Dan. I appreciate um World Series. Canna World Series

(56:32):
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(58:00):
seven time All Star Matt Holiday has been joining us
throughout We've been joining us throughout the UH the World series.
Get to him in a second. Um, here's one Jalen Rose,
who I actually respect a great deal. Uh he's uh
what I would call him like but lead NBA analysts
for ESPN. Sure, he said, um um, let me get

(58:24):
this quote here correctly. Uh uh. He said that what
players should do is to strike one weekend. I wish
at NFL players would do a direct action protest and
strike for a week. This would be a game changer, Yes,
it would. It would open up. It would open up
the ability for owners and general managers to fire players

(58:44):
they don't like. Like they wouldn't get rid of DeAndre
Hopkins because he's awesome when you get a hit, rid
of J. J. Watter, Odell Beckham Jr. Or Aaron Rodgers
or would have nothing to do with the protest. He
would simply go like, Oh, you don't want to show
up for it by and you're going we'll get someone
new who will, or we'll change your contract. We'll find you.

(59:06):
Like even when strikes are for the right reasons, and
this would be baseball players went on strike, right, remember that,
Like it took them a decade to recover from it,
and they only recovered from it because they all juiced
up with steroids, not all of them, but a good
portion of the stars. Like striking sounds like, especially when

(59:27):
you're telling other people to strike, you know what you
should do. You should strike. That's like the that's like
the ladies are having wine one night. Like he doesn't
treat you right, you should leave him, Like, yeah, you know,
I got I got three or four kids, and I
had two in private school, and I mean, like, listen
to me, he's he's got some issues working through work,
and I wish he was a little bit better at home.

(59:48):
Like that, you should just pack your bags go you like,
pack your bags and go like, hey, can I move
in with you? Like no, I got my own husband
and kid to worry about. Like, very careful before you
tell other people to walk away from their jobs. You
can be right and you can be out of a job. Striking,
even for the right reasons, could be a really bad idea,

(01:00:10):
especially if you're not a superstar. It's all about your
wins above replacement, right, how much better or how much
worse is the team off if they lose you? Alright,
let's let's turn a Major League Baseball because I think
this is my personal opinion. You know, baseball guys, like listen,
you know, every game is to itself, there's no momentum

(01:00:31):
that sounds great. But here's a previously impervious Dodger bullpen
and oh, when entering the ninth inning with the lead
this season, that suddenly looked to be pervious. And I
guess my question becomes, if you're Kenny Jansen and to
be a closer, you have to be able to click

(01:00:52):
and drag over game two into the into the trash,
put it in the trash, then empty the trash. Deleted absolutely.
Remember that sounds great, but it's not deleted from anybody else's. Plus,
you have the astros that haven't lost at home in
the playoffs. Let's welcome in Matt Holiday, seven time All Star,
four time Silver slugger who joined us on the Doug
Gottlip Show. How much carry over do you think Game

(01:01:14):
two has to Game three? You know, I think the
one thing I think I'm not necessarily think that affects
Kiley Janson as much as that I think it affects
the considence of the astros. I don't think that all
of a sudden um when they come into face Kimmy Jansen,
and it's not as daunting as it may have been
where he had some success and you've had a few
getters now that it has had some bats and one

(01:01:36):
of them have taken the deep and all of a sudden,
you know you've got to a bullpen and you feel
like where maybe the confidence of coming back, I say,
you're down a run or two in game three or four. Um,
I think that the Astros have a little bit more
confidence and maybe a little more juice in the dugout
about their chances as they would have that not happened.
I don't think Kimley Jansen will be necessarily affected by

(01:01:59):
it as a U, but I do think it helps
as a as a team. You feel better about yourself
going into the next same situation. Um. Yeah, I mean,
but you know you factor in the Astros have played
really really well at home, and you know, part of
it is they're built for that, They're built for the stadium.
Part of it is a young team just kind of energized.

(01:02:21):
They keep the dome closed. What's that you guys just
played there when you're with with the Yankees. What's that
place like? Yeah, it's loud. I think it helps when
you've got Kaiko and Rylando Dolan, that helps how good
you are, which I think both of them have pitched, um,
you know, several times in their home ballpark, which both
of them pitched really well in their home ballpark. So UM,

(01:02:42):
I think it's loud. Um, I don't know that it's
it's anymore loud than the Dodger Stadium. I've played playoff
games at Dodger Stadium when we're super loud, and I've
played game games in San Francisco and St. Louis and
and I think it's nothing. I don't. I don't think
it's as anything us greater than than than the atmosphere
they'll have in l A. So I don't. I don't

(01:03:03):
suspect that that that necessarily will having a factor him.
He said, the young team will thrive. Young assets team
thrives off off the crowd, and uh seem a little
bit more animated and when they play at home. But
I don't think it's something where the Dodgers will go
in there and see something that they're not used to either.
Springer had been struggling mightily, and of course he was
a huge part of the reason they won in Game three.

(01:03:26):
Did you see anything different or simply kind of finding
his rhythm? You know, I thought when there's a man
on second and he hits a home run and right center,
I thought that was a good sign whether or not
he was trying to get the runner over. A lot
of times when you have a plan, so it's a
man on second and it's a big run, you want
to do everything. You can't hit the ball the rights
on the field, and I think for him that he's

(01:03:47):
become a little bit pool happy. Was coming off some balls,
and then the postseason that I've watched some of the bats,
it looks like, you know, the balls he's falling strep talent,
straight back balls that he can handle and then handle.
During the regular season, it looked at me like his
front side was coming off of him and he was
trying to pull them five feet where he has the
kind of power. Um he doesn't need did pull it,
and so it looked to me when I keep stayed

(01:04:08):
on that ball, but he hit out to right center
better maybe sinking to get the guy over. You know,
I gotta hit the bottle of right side a lot
of times. As for us as by hand hitters, um,
that gets us back to where we should be. If
we sink the off gap, it keeps our front side
on the ball, and it allows our swing to work
in the strikes going longer. And I think that might
help him going forward if it stays with that approach

(01:04:29):
and then trying to hit the ball UM to the
off gap, it'll it'll keep him, UM, keeps him on
a little better. All right, help me out with lastman colors. Um.
The stat was that his last twenty pitches against you
guys were all curveballs, all curveballs. Uh, what about his
curveball is so difficult to hit? You know, I think
people say curveball, and it's easy to say curveball, and

(01:04:50):
you say, why can't you hit a curveball? You know
it's coming. Well, his curveball is ninety miles an hour,
So not only does he combine a tremendous break, but
it's got velocity on it, that is, and like you
know of the curveballs in the Major League, Like, he's
throwing a curveball at a velocity that it was pretty
much an average fastball five ten years ago. So I

(01:05:10):
think the combination of speed and and the sharpness of
the break that he's able to get whether you want
to call it spin rate or or whatever, Um, you
know the new metrics are I think his spin rates
crazy high, and then you combine it, like I said,
with with the velocity and then the ability that that
you know that he's got ninety six in the tank. Um,
so you have to honor the fastball a little bit.

(01:05:31):
But I think at this point, um, you don't have
to honor it quite as much, and maybe you just
stick curveball and try to and try to you know,
I think hitting it the other way and trying to
stay on it is your best bet. Um. But you
know he's gonna throw it. He's gets a little lot,
and it doesn't make it easier to hit that the
fact that you know it's coming. Other than um, you know,
you can go up there with an approach that that

(01:05:53):
you you're gonna see you know, one, two or three
of them. So, um, it's it's it's a it's a
different curveball than than you know when people just you know,
throw out the word curveball. His is uh is not
like most Okay, So we don't have this not a
Joe Boo situation. Don't need the hats four bats this
this is a nine. Maybe the bat hats do need bats. Um,
Look you Darvis has been really good, but he was

(01:06:15):
he was with the Rangers. He hasn't how how much
have you seen you I faced him this year. I
think it was the first and only time we faced
him this year and stadium. Um, he's got great stuff,
I tell you, you know, his stuff, especially um you
know lately in important games where his velocity spiked back
up into that mid upper nineties um area you know,

(01:06:37):
makes a slider that much more difficult. And he's got
the really slow curveball that uh that he can use
his change of pace. But um, I think he's he's
got as good as stuff as as uh you know, anybody.
But I think they advantage the astroids that do have
him that situation is that they've faced him a lot
in the last couple of years of having him in
the division, so they know what to expect him and

(01:06:57):
they've seen it, and I think all of them will
have a plan going it. Um you know then experience
that they have in say, you mentioned that the place
is loud, that it's but it's not crazy loud. But
you've also told me that you know, look down the line, Uh,
it's not you know, it's not the ball kind of
flies out of this place. Um. Again, you know, it's

(01:07:18):
it's smart to point out sometimes it's who who the
Astros have on the hill. But um, it also feels
like the Dodgers could benefit they hit the ball out
of the yard a lot to like it. It feels
like this this sets up well for them, not just
the ballpark, but also the fact that they're going, uh
they're going against their third and fourth starters instead of
going against their first and second starters. Sure. Yeah, And

(01:07:39):
I think it's it's a hitter spark. I mean it's
a you know, other than dead center field and and
maybe slightly to the right center um, which are fair
and and maybe slightly to the favor of the picture. Um.
You know, right field left field lines um are are
very very hit or friendly. And if you get the
ball elevated UM to left field, even if you get
jammed a little bit a little bit off to jail,

(01:08:00):
um miss the pencil for for some cheap home runs,
and even to right sale down the line. There's some
balls hit in our series that I didn't think we're
home runs and ended up going on the set. So UM,
I think it's it's it's like you said, they're facing
the three and four starters in the first two games,
so I think the Dieters well have lab solid offensive game.

(01:08:20):
I don't think it's I look for some runs to
be scored for sure, and interested to see, you know,
their approach against all the breaking balls from the Colors,
and then you know Morton and his heavy seeker. All right, Matt,
let's appreciate you joined us. Uh, gonna be a wild
night in Houston. Thanks so much for the analysis and
preppunace for what we're gonna see here in game three. Alright, Manans, Alright,

(01:08:43):
that's a seven time All Star Matt Holliday who has
joined us throughout and will continue to join us throughout
the World Series. Let's yeah, let's bring in Dan Buyer
find out what else is going on in a wild
Friday in the world of sports. Yeah, world, serious done
out of course on Foxes, you were just talking with
Man Holiday about coverage starts at seven thirty Eastern time.
Busy day of the NFL, and we start in Houston.

(01:09:03):
Texans owner Bob mcnara apologizing today for a quote that
he made during the NFL's owners meetings a couple of
weeks ago. The quote was today put in an article
from ESPN dot com recapping those meetings. Mcnara apologized for saying, quote,
the inmates are running the prison end quote. Texans wide
receiver DeAndre Hopkins didn't show up the practice today because

(01:09:25):
of those comments what he heard about them, and the
Houston Chronicles says players considered walking out of team facilities
for the Texans when they heard about the comments McNair
made from head coach Bill O'Brien. Mcnarra's comments again were
made public in a piece on ESPN dot com. Vikings
wide receivers Defund Diggs consider questionable to play against the
Browns in London on Sunday, but the good news is

(01:09:46):
he's practiced fully the last two days. Panthers got good
news is Luke Keikley is cleared concussion protocol. He practiced
the last couple of days. Has considered questionable for their
matchup against the Buccaneers. Well, the NFL network says Redskins
corner Josh Norman will reach turn from his injured ribs
and play against the Cowboys on Sunday. Engulf Tiger Woods
Plitty guilty today's reckless driving following his arrest on a

(01:10:08):
d u Y charge earlier this year. Woods will have
the d u Y charts drop if he completes a
diversion program. And finally, Kevi said, Coach Tyler says that
Jake Crowder will now come off the bench. Is j R. Smith?
Doug is back in the starting lineup. Yeah, this is
another weird lineup here for the for the Calves. I
liken it to the Bachelor going on, uh, going on

(01:10:31):
a bunch of group dates right where uh, you know
he had the he was the point guard the other
night and for two nights in a row. Now it's
Derrick Rows starting, j R. Smith starting, as you said,
back in the lineup, Lebron, James, Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson,
Dwyane Wade who's back, and Jake Crowder coming out the
bench like all Lebron is doing all season long. As
he's gonna you know, date these go on these group

(01:10:52):
dates and eventually gonna find the one he to give
the final Rows to. Uh, we gotta see what it
looks like when Isaiah Thomas comes back. I give it's
an interesting it's a very interesting roster, but I don't
know if it's a great roster. I don't know if
it's a great roster. A lot of names, a lot
of a lot of names, like didn't you used to be? Like?

(01:11:14):
Like Derrick Rose at two million dollars seems like a
great vibe, but why were they able to get Derek
Rose at two million dollars? Right? And and Dwayne Wade?
Like man, Dwyane Wade come out the bench. Seems great
and we're agetting things are going well now, Like let
me know February when you're playing in Salt Lake City, like,
and you guys have lost two games a row. How
that thing is going when you're only playing fifteen minutes
in a game, like I get that you have your

(01:11:36):
eyes in the final prize, but even when you get
to the playoffs, all those guys are gonna wanta play.
All those guys want to play, and all those guys
are used to playing a certain way and now they're
not playing that way. I'm intrigued. Thanks Dan. You can
hear Dan top half past every hour of course Sundays
here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm intrigued, intrigued obviously, as

(01:11:56):
so many are. I don't know if you guys saw
Oregon State choke away that game last night agains Stanford
led the entire game and then gave up a touchdown
with like thirty seconds to go. Um. There's some other
good games in college football, you know, the other interesting
ones Georgia, Florida and TCU Iowa State. Who would have
thought that's an interesting game? I got my my, I

(01:12:18):
got my picks upcoming. But Penn State Ohio State is
fascinating to me. Fascinating to me. That's because you know,
High State came in as a favorite to compete for
and win the national championship. Penn State kind of the same.
And obviously Penn State is one every game, lived up
to the building and dominated Michigan from kickoff last week.

(01:12:40):
And if you look at what Ohio State has done
since the debacle against Oklahoma, think a listen to these
scores army seven, fifty six, nothing, sixty two, fourteen and
fifty fourteen Like that is utter and sheer dommonds. And
we have all kind of collectively or maybe not me,

(01:13:02):
but uh, the all of the pundits have declared JT.
Barrett better. Now right, the wide receivers are better, the
running backs are better. JT. Barrett is better? Or is
he like, when did Rutgers suddenly become good? Let me
know when Maryland was a good team. Nebraska might well

(01:13:24):
fire Mike Riley. These are not ranked teams for a reason.
And it doesn't take a ton. Iowa State is ranked, Nebraska, Maryland,
Rutgers U and l v U and LV lost to
uh who they lose to week one of the season. God,
who is it they lost to? That they had? They
were like a forty point favorite on the in the
very first game of the season. Um, it was like

(01:13:46):
not McNee state Howard, it was Howard Howard right there,
forty point favorites and they lost. The point is this,
I hear you, Ohio State. Anybody can lose a game.
And I'm all for the idea of the College wall
playoff is the best four teams at the end of
the year, not the best four teams at the start
of the year. Um. But this is a very big butt.

(01:14:10):
But alright, J T. Barrett having to do it against
Penn State is really really interesting to me. It just is.
And you know, let me know when you do it
against a good team, let me know when you do
it against team that's not physically overmatched. Right, that's like
the big thing. Maryland was just physically overmatched U and
LV physically overmatched, Army physically overmatched, So we'll see. I mean,

(01:14:39):
it's it's also important to point out that that like
J T. Barrett didn't even you know, like he didn't
even play against Army, right or knows the UNV game.
Dwayne Haskins played that game. So they've been just completely
and physically and utterly and surely dominant over their last opponents,

(01:15:01):
and they should be. And their favorite, Vegas is completely
bought into this idea. Right that you've got J. K. Dobbins,
You've got all that talent on offense, all that talent
on defense. Ohio State should win, should win going away,
and all Penn State has has been sorely thrown a
deep and say Kwan Barkley making plays. But let me
know when when JT. Barrett does against a good team.

(01:15:23):
And this is a really good team. This is the
Penn State team that has a ton of talent. They've
played in a bunch of big games, and they're coming
off a weekend in which they played great football against Michigan.
So forgive me if and I know the numbers are ridiculous,
this year. You know JT. Beartts numbers twenty one touchdowns,
one interception, twenty one touchdowns, one interception. The problem with

(01:15:48):
that is those of us who watched him against Indiana,
those of us who watched him against Oklahoma, like, it's
hard to get that out of our brain that he
was nineteen of thirty five three that was his one
er sception, no touchdowns. He has been spectacular Nebraska game,
five touchdowns, no interception, thirty three spectacular. But let's see

(01:16:13):
what he actually does against a team with a number
by their name, Like this week, Nick Right thinks it's
the worst Lebron, the worst roster Lebron has played with
since his two thousand seven team. I'll tell you if
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(01:17:24):
earlier today. I thought, great scene on that show. Of
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Then you have Colin Cowherd Show, Rich Eisen Show, all
the shows that go on after the show c Steve
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something we here that we like or that's interesting, and

(01:17:44):
we kind of debate that without them being here, we
call it. And now I got two things for you here. First,
Nick Wright, who has moved to New York, went to
the Nets game against the Calves. And maybe it's because
he went to that game, or maybe it's because he's
ever a defender of Lebron James. He had this to say,

(01:18:04):
with the Calves as they are presently constituted, this is
the worst team Lebron has been on since the two
thousand six team he took to the NBA Finals and
got swept by Say or two thousand seven part of
me and got swept by sant Antonio. It is the
worst team he's been on since that season, and I'm shocked.
I'm saying that. But I'm saying that in part because

(01:18:26):
Isaiah Thomas is injured. I'm saying that in part because
Derrick Rose is injured, because Dwyane Wade has all of
a sudden like he's but he also before he was
bruised up first three games of the year, he looked
like he had deteriorated quickly. But most importantly and most disappointingly,
Kevin Love is yet to seize this opportunity. Kevin Love

(01:18:49):
went from being the best player on bad teams in
Minnesota to the third best player on really good teams
in Cleveland. You know, I actually think he kind of
uh contradicts his own point while trying to make his
own point right, Like Kevin Love was seen as a
star when he's in Minnesota. Now he's at best the
third best player. How part of it is we overvalue

(01:19:13):
empty stats on bad teams. The part of it is
it shows how good this team is Um, I'm gonna
disagree with Nick one because making a statement about the
current constitution of the roster like that's fine, but um
your make you make statements about who the Boston Celtics
are based upon their roster now, well they they haven't

(01:19:33):
been close to healthy, right, Marcus Moore is not playing
obviously not gonna have Gordon Hayward. Like I just I
don't really understand the basis of the argument. When they're
all healthy, that should be a deeper maybe not a
better roster, but an interesting way to approach the problem
is the Golden State Warriors and all the other teams
in the East where they never get to Golden State.
The biggest issue with his roster is its age and

(01:19:56):
that older players. Though you you don't win with young players,
you also count on older players, right. It's a weird one.
Like in the NBA, there's um a continuum. Right, when
you're at your peak of athleticism rule in your career,
you don't make the best decisions and you don't make
shots all the time. Older players know what they do well,
only do that, but they can't guard nearly as well,

(01:20:19):
can't create their shot nearly as well. And they break
down more often, and it feels like there's a lot
of these guys are past peek um. But I don't
really understand the argument of right now in October, it's
still a pretty good roster. I mean, for example, tonight
J R. Smith, Dwyane Wade coming off the bench. That
has a pretty good team. Pretty good team, all right. A. J.

(01:20:42):
Hinch was on the Dan Patrick Show. He's the manager
of the Houston Astros. Remember there was a report that
we shared with you yesterday that he was in some
sort of kerfuffle at their hotel after Game one. Here's
a j on what happened. Yeah, I mean it's a
non story. I think this application can get out for
you know, whether it's Twitter clicks or or attention driving

(01:21:04):
headlines is unfortunate in our sports. So it's you know, laughable, comical, ridiculous,
whatever word you want to put next to it. But
it was not event, no, nothing, it was nothing. It
was probably a J. Hinch trying to have a beer
at a bar with his crew and some idiot who
Dodger fan coming in yelling at him because they lost

(01:21:25):
a hard fought game in two hours and twenty minutes
and then they won the next night. When the next night,
I don't know how to tell fans this, but you
guys didn't play in the game. And uh, if you
think that talking trash to the opposing team's manager somehow
helps the Dodgers or hurts the Dodgers, I think you're

(01:21:48):
taking yourself really seriously. And that's what the Fox said,
Say go ahead, music, you had something you want to add?
Have you ever had a situation like that? A J.
Hinch who was in a situation away from the ballpark,
people then find him and immediately recognize who he is

(01:22:08):
and then start trash talking him. Have you ever had
whether it was back the time we're playing basketball or
since the TV? Really, how do you how do you
sort of deal with that situation that like a total
stranger recognizes who you are and then they just start
talking smack on you. I haven't actually kind of weirdly,
so at the Final four? Was it two years ago
when Syracuse was in and I didn't think Syracuse belonged

(01:22:30):
in the n C A term they didn't belong in
the term. They get in anyway, and they got to
the Final four on these incredible comebacks, And so a
guy like, I like really in my face, and I
was with my nephew at the time, and I was
just I was really uncoutable. Man. I just you just
have to walk away, like you just you don't really
have it in basketball when they start talking trash. Um,
I have a go to line I have. I told

(01:22:52):
you guys, my go to line when somebody started talking
to in basketball goes like this, this is the this
is the peak of your basketball career and the low
point of mine. So let's just keep playing. That's my line, UM's.

(01:23:13):
I got a fight once at twenty four hour fitness.
The guy later apologized by the way, I fight dirty.
If you want to come at me, I don't care.
I fight dirty, um, which means there's nothing is off limits.
And yeah, I grabbed and squeezed a guy there because
you know he was big, and he like try to
bull rush me, and um, yeah, I can't. If I
punch a guy, I felt like I get arrested. So

(01:23:34):
I just grabbed him there and he got off me,
and that was that was that. Apparently, in addition to
being funny, I'm a racist. I'll tell you how I
got labeled as such. Next in the Doug Otlip Show,
What Happens Doug Otlive Show, Fox Sports Radio coming to
you live and direct from the City of Angels where. Well,

(01:23:59):
I he just got a problem. Huh. You guys know
what the game of telephone is? Do people play the
game of telephone anymore? This is what always happens in
the game of telephone. You know it's funny. I um
actually popped into my son's school earlier today, and the
reason I did so was I had to drop off

(01:24:20):
a folder he left at home. And when I did,
I popped in and I saw his his principle and
principles about my age. Good dudes, got got three kids,
And I said, hey, man, have you I asked him
the other day, have you you heard of the game Gaga.
He's like, I've never heard the game. Got guys. This
is like a card game, Like it's a card game
that guys play or or don't play. He's like, no,

(01:24:43):
it's it's I said, no, Gaga is a game. It's
like an octagonal. It's like an octagon you playing, but
like a little octagon. It's not like you know, m
M a octagon if you will. And it's kind of
like dodgeball only you can't. Being kids in the head,
it's like you have to hit him. I think it's
knee and below, so you're like jumping over a dodgeball
and it's kind of incorporates handball and dodgeball all kind

(01:25:06):
of together at once, and you know you can't. And
then when you're out, you go and you sit on
the fence, which is the octagon which surrounds the little court. Anyway,
so I told him about a couple of days ago,
and when I popped in, I was like, hey, did
you look up what a gaga quarters? He's like, yeah,
it looks pretty cool. Like you can put it right
there in the grass. I was like, you know what,
you could buy it, or you can just have some

(01:25:26):
throw out an email and a bunch of dads that
come here and not me, but other dads that are
hand You could probably build it on a on a
Saturday or Sunday for your charge, like as a piece
of cake. Kids love it. My point is that and
my son actually plays. He's been playing a handball. Do
you guys play everybody handball like with the not the
handball with the racquetball, but the handball with like the
like the dodgeball. Yeah, of course on the wall. Yeah,

(01:25:49):
of course he loves it. Right, So I don't know,
you slicies where you could like you wait till it
goes super low and he's trying to hit it low.
So he's explained to me, you guys, this is what
your childhood was like as well, right of course. Okay,
so he's playing handball and I'm like, wow, he's living
my childhood all over again. No kick They don't do
kickball anymore. We used to kick how was like first
grade kickball champion? No kickball? And I was in anyway pointed,

(01:26:12):
some games are the same, some games evolved, and and
they're they're they're different. Um, And I'm I'm kind of
you know, I'm fascinated by bye bye, by what happens,
and and by how my kid grows up and the
games he plays and the things that he does. That's
how That's how my lefe was. Um, And I think

(01:26:36):
what's interesting about about this uh Houston situation? I kind
of got lost in my train of thought there, guys,
sorry about like where we like? Where were I going
with this? I was so into the dodgeball and handball
and Gaga thing that games have changed. Um is uh is, Oh,
it was telephone, right, So we used to play a

(01:26:57):
game called telephone now music. Did you ever play telephone
as a kid? Of course you did. Yeah, I mean
telephone where you say the phrase and then everyone has
to bring it back around until it comes to the
person who originally started it. And what happens when it
works its way around, it's usually completely different than what
it originally started. Completely different. That's a that's an actually

(01:27:18):
and very accurate. So you tell somebody a line, a phrase, um,
a name, anything, and they tell somebody else, tell somebody else,
tell somebody else you like, and you go around and
then and you whisper it so no one hears it.
And then he gets to the final he's all right,
say what what? What is the line in telephone? And
it sounds nothing like what originally happened. I kind of

(01:27:41):
think that's what's happening here in Houston, which is kind of,
by the way, what's happening with my open to this show? Um,
that's that's really what happens. Because I'm not sure even
people who have tweeted about it understand the use of
the word nuance, right. Nuance is a subtle difference in

(01:28:04):
or shade of meaning or expression or sound. And so
my issue is simply this, simply this, if you're bothered
by the fact that um Bob McNair, the owner of
the Texans, in a private meeting a week and a
half a week and a half ago, said look, in
regards to the protest, the inmates are running the prison. Well,

(01:28:28):
then you don't understand the nuance to the actual expression.
He misused the He means the wrong word and the
expression prison and asylum. And you can go like, oh wait,
and and and there will be people like, well, listen,
you're using black men who are protesting police brutality, Like
he mentioned nothing about police brutality. I don't know why
you used prison. But actually inmates running the prison, honestly,

(01:28:50):
it works. The expression is actually better in the prison.
The actual expression is inmates run the asylum. But there
aren't inmates in asylums. We do know that, correct. So
the first thing is the expression is wrong. Inmates aren't enslams.
They're in prisons, and the inmates can't run the prisons.

(01:29:11):
It's the idea, it's the nuance of the expression, which is, hey,
we understand what the players are protesting. We've never said
that it wasn't important to us, at least Bob mcnaire
has never been quoted that i've seen saying that what
they're what they're expressing isn't important to us. What we're
saying is we can't simply react to what they want
and how they want us to react and what they

(01:29:32):
want to do and say that's our policy. That ain't
the way business works. People. And so when I said,
DeAndre Hopkins obviously and smart enough to understand the nuance
of it, I believe he understand when it's a game
of telephone. It gets related as this is what Bob
mcnaire said without actually reading the context to the article,
which is really interesting. Like it's really interesting because I

(01:29:55):
don't necessarily feel bad for NFL owners. It kind of
feel bad for NFL owners because they're de with a
lot of stuff. They're dealing with other personalities of other
NFL owners that are all kind of out for theirs
and protecting their business and they want to protect the shield,
they want to protect their own financial investment. But there's
all these different kind of Uh, the expression is a
thousand little cuts, right, Like the protests aren't going to

(01:30:18):
bring down the NFL, but they're not helping. You got
in stadium attendance, you got out of stadium ratings. Both
being down, you have cost skyrocking, not just of your employees,
but costs of stadium, costs of upkeep. You've built these
spectacular facilities. Remember, like all of these teams have these

(01:30:39):
unbelievable training centers and facilities. And here's what I'll tell
you that Jerry Jones is brilliant because all the rest
of these guys they it's a money loser. They don't
make any money off of building offices and facilities. Inspect
bigger and better, like they make no money off of it.
That is investment in your product, that's all it is.

(01:31:00):
But you're not making money on it. And you gotta
keep the lights on. It's open three days a year
at least. Jerry Jones is hosting football games and concerts
and other events at his so maybe maybe maybe he
can come close to breaking even. But you have all
this massive investment. You're like, hey, I hear what my
employees are saying, but that can't determine every decision that

(01:31:22):
I make. You just can't, honestly, because if the if
the inmates ran the prison. In the NFL, there would
be no there'll be no preseason, right, we don't want to.
We don't want we don't preseason. But what would that do?
It would crush the product. The product isn't good. Watch

(01:31:44):
the product the first four weeks of this season. It
isn't good. Why because they're not practicing enough. And I understand,
you can't practice too much and guys get hurt. It's
a violent game and you end up getting your star
player heard. But you actually do kind of need to
practice together. That's why offensive line play has been so
brutal so far this year. Ask any NFL player like, look,
we can't eve hit anybody anymore because the c b A.
We don't practice together. It takes us like a month

(01:32:05):
of actually playing games before we figure it out. So
if you can't understand when he's saying, hey, inmates don't
run the asylum in the prison, whatever, what the expression is,
then that's I think a fair expression. It's a fair expression.
And by the way, like the game of telephone, it

(01:32:27):
gets misconstrued along the way, Whereas if you actually read
the piece, they're having a thoughtful discussion about the protest
and he's like, hey, we can't have the inmates run
the prison. Troy Vincent at the time, you know, port
Troy Vince is like, oh, kind of bothered by that,
pulls him aside, Hey I didn't I didn't mean anything
by it, and it's done. It's over. But nobody actually

(01:32:48):
reads stories. It becomes a game of telephone and too
many people don't understand the nuance of an expression. Just
don't get it. Because when I heard it, I was like, yeah,
I get it, I get it. There wasn't an insensitivity
towards it. There was the because and even though he

(01:33:11):
used the wrong word for the expression, it's actually the
right word because inmates are in prisons, not in asylums anymore.
So he kind of changed it and tweaked it and
made it make sense to him, even if it came
out to somebody's offensive, Like, looked, the people are offended
all the time. People were people probably offended that I
brought it up. People like I've been basically called a

(01:33:32):
racist now on Twitter, I'm clearly racially insensitive, like not
the case, not the case, but um and uh like, look,
I think Kiko Alonso is a dope. Why because I
heard Kiko Alonso at the Rose Bowl, And because Kiko
Alonso can't adjust the way in which he's hitting people,

(01:33:55):
and he's going to hurt himself and he did hurt
Joe Flacco. All right. If if saying that DeAndre Hopkins
obviously isn't smart enough to get the nuance of a statement,
has something that is racially charged, you're gonna have to
You're gonna have to help me out here. Don't think
Cam Newton's particularly bright either. That has nothing to do
with the color of his skin. Has to do with
the fact that I'm judging Cam Newton based upon how

(01:34:18):
he continues to misstep in press conferences and the things
that he seems to say that don't match up with
the reaction of somebody who takes some time, has some thought,
and really invest himself in presenting the best image of himself.
So I'll give you my college picks up coming next

(01:34:45):
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Fox Sports Radio lead you to, uh, what should be
a fun weekend. They're calling best weekend ever, aren't they?
On on Fox TV? I think it's close the best
weekend ever. I got World Series tonight, unbelievable college football
to mornight, Penn State, Ohio State, and then Dallas and
the Skins. That's the big game. That's America's game, number
one game on America's number one one on FL network.

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So we got and plus you got World Series all
weekend long on Fox. So big football weekend and baseball
weekend upcoming with that in mind every Friday last week.
Full disclosure. I was terrible in college one in four
of my college picks. I was awesome in my pro
pix four and one, which leads us to how's my math?
Five and five? Speaking of five and five, that's what

(01:36:55):
we call my well we got five NFL five college
it's five for five with Doug Godli. Let's go fun,
all right, let's get after it, shall we Let's start
with wake Forest at home against the volt I've never
understand Louisville. Who's the vill But if you've ever spoken

(01:37:19):
to anyone from Louisville, they say, don't call us Louisville
calls Louisville, Right, that's Louisville, you guys. I don't know,
but how do you go by Louisville and then you're
the vill shouldn't be the vote? Very confusing. Here's the
bigger point. Lamar Jackson's awesome, fast, though inaccurate, great deep ball. Um,
they don't have a good offensive line, they don't have
a good defense, and wake Force is not bad. They're

(01:37:42):
not bad. Could have been Florida State on the road
like I actually, wake for is not bad. And every
time Louisville has come upon a team that's not bad,
they lose. Wake Force is gonna win at homes three
point dogs. Penn State's taking on Ohio State, and everybody
is freaking out because JT. Barrett's numbers are scene twenty one, touchdown,

(01:38:03):
one inception and um, now look Penn State, they've thrown
some picks. They nearly lost to Iowa. You're on the
road at the shoot. Did you know this number is
at six and a half. Now, look, if it goes
to seven and a half, you gotta put everything you have,
everything you own on Penn State. I wouldn't be surprised
the Penn State won the game. But my pick here

(01:38:25):
is that Penn State covers six and a half points.
They have the best player on the football field. They
have elite talent out wide. Like if you if you
watch Penn State last year in the rose ball like
he was not a fluke and Trace mcsurely to throw
the ball deep downfield, and I think they like anybody
else that has the ability to match like that. That's
a really good front seven, really good front seven. Look

(01:38:47):
what they were able to do to Michigan. And they're
gonna make you throw the ball deep downfield, which is
the which is really um what J. T. Barrett struggles with.
I got Penn State cover in this number. Mild monro
Ocloma State travels to West Virginia to take on on
the Mountaineers, who have a really good defense and Oklahoma
State's beat up on their offensive line and you know,

(01:39:08):
they went in they survived Texas last week. Offense wasn't great. Um,
I think they're gonna beat West Virginia, but I think
it's probably a little bit of a shootout. Oklahoma stayed
a little bit worn down. They did have some time off,
but this is back to back to back, back to
back weeks on the road and West Virginia returning home.
Don't let the final score for for you. They were
beating the hell out of Baylor before Baylor scorts and

(01:39:29):
points and could have won that game late. I like
West Virginia to cover the seven and a hook at home.
Clemson has taken on Georgia Tech. Now Georgia Tech, Truth
be told. Truth be told should have been Tennessee first
week of the season, should have beaten Miami. Miami need
a miracle to beat them. But Clemson hasn't played since
a week ago today when they lost to UH two,

(01:39:53):
two weeks ago today when they lost to Syracuse. The
hardest part about Georgia Tech is preparing for the option,
the vier, the different blocking different, and you've gotta have
great speed, you gotta be really good up front. Now
they have an they have a really impressive front seven um.
With time to rest, to get healthy and prepare for
Georgia Tech, Clemson will cover the fourteen points at home

(01:40:16):
and be Georgia Tech last one. Arizona State couldn't stop
anybody to start the year, but the last two weeks
they played really good defense. They take it on a
USC team coming off an absolute thumbing at Notre Dame,
and there's lots of finger pointing. They're not healthy, they're
not great. Quarterbacks good but turnover pron obviously in Sam
Darna running back is good, but they don't open enough

(01:40:38):
holes for him. They got one viable weapon at wide receiver,
and the defense is so so Arizona State at home
snake pit. Remember this is the place that got Lane
Kiffin fired. They're not gonna They're not gonna kiff in
this staff, but I wouldn't be surprised Arisona State wins.
I think it's close game. I'm gonna take Arizona States
and those four points. Let's get to the NFL. Um

(01:40:59):
then Sota's taken on the Browns in London. Sam Bradford's
not gonna play, but I believe Stefan Diggs will play.
Listed desk questionable, but did participate in workouts. Uh, brown
stink starting to Sean Kaiser doesn't don't think they have
a chance. This is a really good defense and a
team that's getting a little bit healthier in Minnesota. Plus

(01:41:20):
how many games overseas have we seen that's been a blowout.
I think it's a blowout in the hands of the
Minnesota Vikings. I'll I'll lay the points, nine and a
half points and take the Vikings anyway. Buffalo Bills are
undefeated at home. They take it on the Oakland Raiders.
I know the Raiders look better at home, but it's
something about this Buffalo team. I love their defense, I
love their ability to run the football, especially against that

(01:41:41):
Raider defense. Buffalo two and a half means Buffalo wins
by a field goal. I'll take that risk. Buffalo wins. Uh.
Philadelphia is a twelve and a half. Thirteen point If
you get thirteen five twelve and a half fine as well.
Uh to the San Francisco forty Niners, who are coming
off of thumping at the hands of the Dallas Cowboys.
Now they've lost their starting left tackle Philadelphia has and

(01:42:02):
they've lost their middle linebacker, both for the season. San
Francis is gonna not great. But up until last week,
when the Cowboys had a week and a half off
to prepare for them, they played everybody close. I'm saying
San Francisco plays this game close. Thirteen points an obscene
number of points in the NFL. Give me San Francisco
lay the points. I'll take the Niners. Um. I started

(01:42:28):
the season thinking Detroit was good. Now they're not. And
Pittsburgh's not great, but their defense is pretty good and
they've learned to run the football, run the football and
win and occasionally throw it to Antonio Brown. And I
frankly think suspending Martavis Bryant's the right thing, right it's
the Hey, look, we're not gonna trade you, We're gonna
keep you, and you're gonna do it our way. I

(01:42:49):
like where Pittsburgh is going with this. They figured out
their identity offensively, they know their identity defensively. I think
they win. All they gotta cover is the field goal.
I'll take it. I'll take Pittsburgh. Last game Dave of
the Week, Dallas Cowboy is taking on the Washington Redskins. Uh,
Cowboys are good Cowboys, pretty good. Like Look, I've never
thought that Doc is a top five, top ten quarterback,

(01:43:10):
but they started run the football better last week. I
think they used Getting Irving back up front gives them
yet another viable pass rusher. Kirk Cousins is on a
short week in terms of preparation, and it wasn't great.
Was just Okay against Philadelphia, I don't think they've given
him great weapons to work with. Dallas a two point favorite.

(01:43:31):
All they gotta win by a field goal. They've had
no problem winning on the road. A matter of fact,
sometimes Dallas struggle more at home they do on the road.
I'll take the Cowboys. So in Summation, Wake Forest home
dog take them. West Virginia home dog, take them, Arizona
State home dog, take him, penn State Road dog, take him.
Clemson road favorite take them. Uh. In the NFL Vikings

(01:43:54):
in London, it's the Browns take the Vikings. Buffalo at home,
small slight favorite, Ta come San Francisco, big huge road
dog take San Francisco. Philadelphia road dog take him, Dallas
road dog take him. Those are my five. There is
five NFL. Let's five College five for five with Doug Godley.

(01:44:20):
You know what's uh, what's what's interesting is um Last
night I watched DeMarcus Cousins, who was spectacular, spectacular forty
one and twenty three rebounds, and he just took over
down the stretch as the Pelicans, remember went into Sacramento,
took on his old team and it was look, it
was emotional night for DeMarcus and I hung out with
DeMarcus Cousins one night this summer and he was like, Yo,

(01:44:42):
why are you so hard at me? I was like, dude,
you don't play defense, right. He's like, yeah, I do.
I played defensive all right, And I've watched a bunch
of Pelicans games this year. Now I'll support DeMarcus in
this sense. I don't think the roster is very good.
And now without Anthony Davis, boy's really you know, you
got so much money spent on Anthony davi Us and
him and Drew Holiday, it's been hard to fill out
the rest of that roster. Plus Solomon Hill, who they

(01:45:05):
signed in the off season. Uh, he got hurt. He's
not even gonna play this season. But last night was
one of those nights to which if you love DeMarcus Cousins,
that's why you love him. And if you're like me
that you want to love DeMarcus Cousins, but you watched
the lack of effort. I don't know, thirty five forty
five nights at the defensive ent and too many three's
taken most nights. You start to go like, man, this

(01:45:27):
is why it makes it so hard. Because he's so talented,
so talented. Let's bring in Dan buy or see what
else is going on in the in the world, in
the in the solar system. But yeah, in the NFL,
you touched on those games and those certain happenings. Luke
Keickley and the Panthers have the Buccaneers coming up on Sunday.

(01:45:48):
Keith Lee cleared from concussion protocol today, still listed as questionable.
You mentioned the Stefon Dig's injury, but it is likely
to play despite the questionable tag, as he was able
to practice fully these last couple of days. Of course,
the big news in the NFL today the comments made
by Texans owner Bob McNair at the NFL owners meetings
a few weeks ago. They were published today by ESPN

(01:46:09):
dot com. As McNair said, quote, the inmates are running
the prison end quote when referring to players protesting the
national anthem. Texans players were notified of these comments by
head coach Bill O'Brien and other members of the Texans
organization today, and the Houston Chronicles says some players considered
walking out of the team facilities when they heard the comments.
In fact, DeAndre Hopkins, one of the ten players who

(01:46:30):
was not seen on the practice field today but did
return to the facility later on. Should be noted Bob
McNair did release an apology stating, quote, I regret that
I used that expression. I never meant to offend anyone,
and I was not referring to our players. End quote.
Of course, Tonight in Houston, it's Game three of the
World Series. Texans defensive lineman J. J. Watt's going to

(01:46:50):
throw out the first pitch. Sports Tonight's Game three. The
pitching matchup you Darvis goes for l A. Lance mccolors
on the hill for the Astros. Coverage starts at seven
thirty Eastern time on Fox. We stared up at one apiece.
Jack Peter Send in the line up again for the
Dodgers tonight. Don't play left field, kek Hernandez Doug will
be the designated hitter in bat ninth. With the roof
close because there were some sprinkles in the Houston area

(01:47:13):
some of the Astros wanted, meaning the roof being closed
and not the sprinkles. Anyway, They're like they're gonna get
their wish with the roof closed tonight before Game three.
I hate that. I I just like, look, it's baseball.
The only reason that a dome exists should exist, um
this time of year is like back when Minnesota played
in Minnesota doesn't even have a dome anymore, like Yankee

(01:47:35):
Stadium and not a dome. You know Cleveland, Cleveland had
those uh remember those bugs they had like a decade
ago there in the playoffs with those those those those
awful bugs that are all over people. Um, yeah, like
they're they're not locust. There's something else I can't cicada?
Was that or is that? I don't think it was
really loud though, aren't that? Yeah, cicadas are really really

(01:47:57):
really loud. They are really really loud. I'm fascinated by tonight.
And let me kind of explain why. I. I think
that the confidence is a huge factor in sports and
and this is where you know, Girardi was fired yesterday.
One of the reasons Girardi was fired was he he
values numbers, but he's not a numbers nerd, right, Like,
he didn't do everything based upon the numbers. A lot

(01:48:19):
of it's just feel and catchers or field guys. You know,
it's like you don't really want to throw a guy
curveball here, but you know what, sometimes the curveball is
working and he doesn't have that, he doesn't have confidence
in hitting the curveball. If you've been paying attention, um,
and I understand. Like Houston right now, they want the
dome closed because you know, it's loud. The ball flies

(01:48:40):
out of the ballpark when the dome is closed, like
you to open that place up. Oh, but it's baseball
in Houston. It should be that roof should be open
all weekend long. Baseball is meant to be played outside.
It's meant to be played on grass. They took out
that hill in center Fia, why to make it more
like a real baseball stadium. Open the dome to make
it like a real baseball stadium. Of course you can

(01:49:03):
say something, Ramos, it's not even hot too, right. I
mean it's like I saw whether they're like clouds and
the scots like a perfect overcast day, and it's like, yeah,
let's shut the dome so nobody can see any air.
I fail to disagree with you. And look, Minimde is
a cool little place, and like like it's a kind

(01:49:25):
of a made up it's a made up deal. Like
you know you can you kind of have two choices
in the stadium building. You can go with the Nationals do,
which is, hey, let's just buy build the best new
stadium possible. Or you can do, uh, you can do
kind of something clever and cute and make it seem
like like a disney Land ride. Right, And they've obviously
chosen the disney Land ride thing. They got the train
that goes through there. They used to have the hill,

(01:49:49):
Like all that's fine. This is this is the one
thing about about baseball that's that's fascinating. It is the
only everybody so it's the only sport with no time limit.
It's also the only sport to which the the dimensions
of the field of play are different in every city.
Like isn't that crazy? Imagine if you did? Imagine, Like
you go play the Lakers and their court is ten

(01:50:10):
ft longer than and and three ft wider than everybody
else's court. You know, Imagine if you go and play
the Celtics and like their hoop is two inches lower,
um sixty six degrees tonight, chance of thunderstorm sixes sixty
nine degrees leading to uh forty four at night. It's
gonna be a beautiful night tomorrow. All weekend long, absolutely

(01:50:32):
stunning weather, spectacular fall weather in Houston and seventy one,
and they're gonna have that dome closed. That's a joke.
That's a joke. Come on, Houston, I look, uh is baseball,
You're in the World Series. Open up the dome, Open
it up, open it up. Not a fan of closed domes.

(01:50:58):
I'll tell you something fasting Gus Mason is gonna jin
us a moment. I think it's fair to say that
the perception of the SEC is the SEC is down right.
If you look in the top ten, which normally is
littered with SEC teams, you have Alabama number one, that's
received every first place vote, every single one, and you
have Georgia at number three. The next SEC team to

(01:51:22):
be ranked is Auburn, who is uh ranked nineteen in
the country in both polls. That's the next one. L
s U is ranked twenty three in the country. That's
it that those are the only SEC schools that are ranked.
And here we are in October and if you look
at Auburn, they were up twenty to nothing, I believe

(01:51:42):
when they lost to l s U. And they lost
to Clemson, who uh they do have one loss in
the year, but many people believe Clemson, one of the
two or three elite teams in the country, lost them
fourteen to six to start the year. Next week Auburn
goes to A and M. Then they got Georgia back
to back weeks. Wow uh. And then at the end
of the month, of course, end of the month in November,
they have the Iron Bowl, which is I think it's

(01:52:03):
either Thanksgiving or the day after Thanksgiving. So is the
SEC down or is perception of the SEC down? And
here's what I mean. Um, other leagues have plenty of
ranked team like Iowa State obviously is the ranked twenty
five now and Iowa State has the win over Oklahoma alright,

(01:52:26):
but they have a loss to Iowa, um, and they
have a loss to Texas right. So my point is
that Iowa State can lose because of their one big
win over Oklahoma. People are now all on the Iowa
State bandwick. It's like we we so badly want the
SEC to lose. Like, look, I don't think the SEC

(01:52:46):
is great. And Florida, of course has had a litany
of injuries, suspensions, defections, all those things that have derailed
their quarterback position. Tennessee Vanderbilt. What's happened to this league?
Old miss graduated so many players quarterback now hurt out
for the season Mississippi State. A and M not bad, Hey,

(01:53:12):
I'm not bad. And A M probably gave out. I
gave Alabama one of their best games of the year.
And A and M's only other loss was U C
l A by one point to start the season. It's
just interesting that would but A and M. It's almost
like the SEC is now hurting A M from being ranked.
It's crazy. But what's happened to this league? Where you

(01:53:33):
won all those championships seven what seven championships in row?
And now you have Tennessee, Vandy, Missouri and Arkansas bringing
the league down. It's crazy? What's happened to this league? Crazy? Crazy? Uh,
We're we're trying to trying to track down Gus Malson.

(01:53:58):
He was in a plane. He was landing, but he
wasn't flying the plane himself. He was landing. So look,
the big story of the day in sports is this
Houston Texans deal where Bob McNair was quoted from a meeting.
This is going back. Remember they had the meeting with
the NFL players and the NFL owners. The owners had
their own meetings in New York. They had press conferences

(01:54:19):
and they did talk about the protest and in the meeting.
In one of the meetings, Bob McNair, the owner of
the Houston Texans, said like, hey, inmates a run in
the prison. Now he misused the common expression. And by
the way, he probably corrected a common expression because inmates
can't run the asylum, they can run a prison. But whatever,

(01:54:40):
he apologized in the meeting because Troy Vincent, former player,
was like, whoa, I've never been called an inmate before. Like,
it's an expression. I apologize, and look, it got to
the players through Twitter, the story on ESPN I come

(01:55:00):
and through their coach game of telephone. DeAndre Hopkins gets mad,
leaves the facility. Now he's come back because they talked
about the ledge, Like, dude, it's an expression. It didn't
mean you, it's an expression. It means employees can't can't
dictate the future of companies. It's a group. It's a
collaborative effort, which, by the way, is what they were

(01:55:22):
doing in New York. But this comes. The Texans have
been a feel good story, right like lose J J.
Watt terrible offense to start the year. All of a sudden,
now they put uh Deshaun Watson at quarterback and their
offense explodes and they're going to take on the Seattle Seahawks.
Is he gonna play? We'll discuss and find out next

(01:55:47):
what True Car You can find out what other people
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confident car buying experience. You know, it's interesting, Um, I
was pointing out the SEC. See it's like, uh, granted
Auburn had a big lead against l s U. You
lose down L s U, who's now ranked by the way,

(01:56:09):
and they're only other loss to Clemson And you look
at the numbers. All the other SEC wins have been blowouts, right,
all by twenty one or more points. And I almost
feel like the past that teams used to get because
they're in the SEC, right like you just ranked because
they're in the SEC. It almost, i don't know, kind
of weirdly works against you now, like wow, it's just
an SEC win. Like, look, they still have the most

(01:56:30):
players drafted every year in the NFL. UM Auburn is
a really interesting team because they're still very much alive
to win the SEC West. Of course, they have A
and M next weekend, and then end of the month
they have the Iron Bowl against Alabama. Um, and uh,
this is a team that runs it well. Uh, they're
they're running back leads the SEC and rushing touchdowns Jets did.

(01:56:53):
Of course, the Baylor transfer leads the SEC in completion percentage,
fourth in the league and passing efficiency, and the defense
is ranked eleventh nationally and scoring defense. So it's we're
it's like, wow, why is why is Auburn not discussed more?
Is it the SEC almost working against you? Let's let's
bring in gust Malls on their head. Coach. They're off
this week getting ready for an M and joined us in. Coach.

(01:57:14):
I know you just got off an airplane. I appreciate it.
Um is it is it kind of weird to you
how the perception the SEC has so flipped that your team,
despite the schedule you played out of conference in conference
might not be getting the discussion it deserves. You know,
I really don't know. I mean, I know we're in position, uh,
you know right now with control arm destiny, and we've

(01:57:36):
got you know, three really tough games. Um, that I
think you're really going to determine everything towards M. But
I really like the way that our team played last week.
We've played probably our most complete game, and now we
got a week off and and we need to heal
up a little bit too. So it's been a great
week for us to heal up, kind of evaluate everything
and you get a good playing together, you know, for
the last four four games. Okay, what what do you

(01:57:58):
think the kids learn from the LSU game? Well, I mean,
you know, obviously that was a tough loss, especially you know,
we had the game in hand and of course lost it.
That's extremely tough place to play, and that I was
real proud of the way our team bounced back. Uh.
You know, it was a tough week and our kids
really hung in there and um had a great week
of practice and like I said earlier, probably played our

(01:58:20):
our most complete game, you know, last Saturday. You know,
it's funny that you pointed out that your team needed
to heal up. Like I don't know if we spend
enough time, if we care enough about schedules, but oftentimes,
like schedules can just beat you up, Um, and if
you look at games a lot of times the like
the game before is the one that can cause you
to lose that game. How important was it like in

(01:58:43):
terms of for people to understand this week off before
A and M and Georgia and back to back games.
How much does that help you in your preparation? You know,
I think it helps a lot. You know, this is
kind of the latest We've had a awful weekly since
I've been the head coach, and we were a pretty
beat up team last week, you know, up front, I
think we've had five different starting lineups up front the

(01:59:04):
last six games, and so we've kind of had to
mix and match play without three of our defensive starters
last week. So you know, we've had some guys just
kind of make it through games too. So you know,
this week was really good just to kind of get
all healed up and hopefully we'll be you know. You know,
it's funny. I think nationally, obviously everybody knows about the

(01:59:25):
Iron Bull and A and M is no pushover. But
I don't know if nationally people understand the rivalry between
Auburn and Georgia right, like that is, like everybody knows
Georgia Florida but Auburn and Georgia. I'm like, this is
a historic and lengthy and like the oldest rivalry in
in the South. Um, how come that hasn't been relayed

(01:59:45):
well enough? You think to the common fan, you know,
I don't know how it is around the country, but
I know, you know, at home at Auburn in this area.
I mean, it's very important people talk about a year round.
And of course you're exactly right. I mean, of course
A and M's on our mind, and they're top twenty
five team. They are playing extremely well, uh you know
right now, and in course with them, we we have
George at home, which is always a big one, and

(02:00:06):
then we end up with iron Ball at home, so
you know, we've got three big ones to finish this
season up with all. I really quickly coach, because I
know you gotta go. Jared's did him? We mentioned transfer
from Baylor, and seems to be uh like, look, you
think you know what you have. When a guy sits out,
he starts to understand your system. How much has you
how much have you learned? And you changed your play

(02:00:27):
calling because now you've gotten a feel for him in
a game as opposed to out the Gate when you're
when you're playing Clemson, for example. Yeah, well I think
you know, I mean you you know, he's still an
inexperienced guy. I mean, he's very talented. He's doing a
super job for us. I just think the office corner
at Chiplenzy and him, I've got to know each other
a lot better throughout the course of the year. And
you've seen Jared getting more and more comfortable each game.

(02:00:49):
And he's playing at extremely high level right now with
his completion percentage, the ways protecting the football and then
of course in the last game he made some some
really good runs with his feat and for touchdown and
that really opened everything else up in the run game.
So he's playing a high level and we have a
lot of confidence in him right now. Well, you guys
should have a lot of confidence playing good football, blowing

(02:01:10):
most of these teams out. Coach, I appreciate you hopping
off the plane and hopping on the phone with us.
We wish you the best of luck and safe travels
to A and M. Thanks so much for joining us
on Fox Sports Radio. Now, thanks for having me. All right,
that's Gus malls On, head coach Auburn Auburn is one
of those teams to which, like George, is really good defensively.
We'll see how they do again. I just don't think Florida,
they just don't think they have the offense to win

(02:01:31):
this week in Jacksonville, they don't. Uh. They're talking trash
about Florida. Might be talking trash about George's quarterback, but
I mean, you tell me what what Florida has done
offensively to scare you. But to go from that, uh,
And then a couple of weeks they take on an
Auburn team that Karen Johnston is what fourteen touchdowns and
Stidham appears to be coming on pretty strong. Um. Not

(02:01:54):
crazy to think Auburn's that kind of team that can
upset the entire Apple Car. We all think we know
who the teams are. It's gonna be Alabama, It's gonna
be Alabama, probably will be Alabama regardless. But if there's
a team in the SEC that can upset the entire
Apple Card, Auburn's a team. Let's get to a game. Okay,
this is game time. Side on the Doug Gottlieb Show

(02:02:19):
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on radio see on TV. Uh Dan, what's the game today?
The game today is all right? Looking ahead to the weekend. Well,

(02:02:40):
let's start with the topic Texas wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins.
What are several Texans walking out today? After Bob McNair's
comments were published by ESPN dot com. So psychic? Will
DeAndre Hopkins play Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks. I don't
think there's any question you'll play Sunday. I think it's
one of those things where DeAndre Hopkins, who I do
think it's a good dude. We've had him before. I

(02:03:02):
just think he freaked out when he heard it, and
I think he freaked out and he's like, you know,
and he just teaches reacted, and that happens. It happens.
We all freak out. When you you heard your boss
said something about about you, You're like, whoa, WHOA? What
we're inmates prison. What are you talking about? And then
somebody text him like, Hey, do you gonna come back
and we'll talk to you about this, Like Bob mcnire

(02:03:23):
is a good dude. He didn't. It's an expression, it's
an idiom. I think I'm gonna go chance number six
Ohio State travels or I should say his home the
number two Penn State this Saturday on Fox in the
Game of the week. But psychic, will this matchup actually
be the best game in this college football weekend? There

(02:03:44):
are a lot of good ones out there. This is
the this is the big one. But what's gonna actually
turn out to be the best game this weekend? That's
the best game? That's the best you got, NFL do
like there might be closer. I don't know how close
the game is. Um, you have, of for my money,
the best player in college football in sa Kwan Berkley.
But they also have like you watch Penn State. They

(02:04:06):
got some real dudes now, line up wide, line up
at tight end. Um, you know mc sorley's little and uh,
but he throws it down. He throws a lot of
jump balls up there. Defensively, they're solid up front and
the house. State's got dudes, big afellas like this is.
These are two really well coached teams. And my only
question is Penn State coming off the emotion of the

(02:04:27):
domination of Michigan, can you dial that up again playing
it against Ohio State, who's playing in a peak level.
But that's the game of the week. Finally, it was
reported yesterday that Southwest Airlines will add live pop up
concerts on some of their flights. So psychic. How long
will this trend last? I think it lasts for a while. Um.
But but here's the thing. This is like if you've

(02:04:48):
ever written the metro in Paris, just don't make eye
contact because then you feel obligated to leave a tip.
This is game time on the duck, Got leave show
Ramo's big game here. Game three is a big and
pivotal game. Who do you like tonight? I like the Dodgers?
Of course you do, your Dodging fan, Dan Buyer, Big

(02:05:08):
game Game three tonight? Who do you like? I'm gonna
take the home team tonight in the Astros for game
all right? What about you? Music? Break the tie? Who
do you like? I will go Astros as well with
Dan Buyer. Sorry, John Alright, buyer really quickly. Penn State,
Ohio State, who you like give? I like Penn State
to cover. I've told you that's one of my picks.
I think that's gonna be a great football game. I
hate that Ohio State wears an alternative uniform. Alternative uniform,

(02:05:30):
but I know that alternative uniform isn't really meant for me.
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