November 6, 2017 • 50 mins
Doug explains why it's difficult for head coaches to succeed when they are promoted from within. He calls out Deion Sanders for going too far with his comments about Tony Romo. And World Series champion and Astros pitcher Lance McCullers joins the show to talk about starting game 7 of the World Series.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio, coming to you from the City of Angels
where uh yeah, Dodgers let Los Angeles down last week,
but the Rams picked him up and the Lakers won
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again last night and Stables beating the Memphis Grizzlies. Things
shaping up on the West side. Rad is getting in
in Miami. We got a lot to get to. We
got college football where from hey, Ohio States back to
Ohio States back. Um, we have the two. We we
will announce the two thousand seventeen NFL September champions We
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will announce the two thousand seventeen October Heisman Trophy winner. Yes,
I know it's November. You will understand when we get
to it. We got a lot to get to today.
But let's start where uh, I don't know if they're
shutting down Jamis Winston because of his terrible pregame speech
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where he was telling his teammates to eat the W. Yeah,
eat the W. That was that was awkward. It's awkward.
It's like one of those rants where you're just you're
it's like blushi in um in uh animal house? Right?
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Was it over when the Germans bar bomb bar Harbor? Hello,
That's what it felt like. Jamis Winston being shut down
for a substantial amount of time for the Buccaneers. They're
two in six. But there's more to it than the
fact that Jamis Winston is throwing us either throwing groundballs
to his wide receivers who aren't fielding it well, or
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there's something amiss with his arm. This team has chemistry issues.
This team has had some injuries in the defense which
has caused it to be dysfunctional. This team is a mess.
This team is going to fire their head coach. Then
you go to New York and the juxtaposition with the
l A. Rams, who come in and hung a half
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a hunted on the Giants, and the Rams last year
were the laughing stock of the National Football League against
the Giants team which appears to have either quit or
simply be at such an incredible talent disadvantage that they
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were completely incapable of competing with the Rams. That's a
Giants team that was in the playoffs last year. Now
balance that out with the Eagles, balance that out with
the Rams. Balance that out with some of these other teams.
What's InVogue in the NFL is the NFL has become
an offensive league. The rules are set up so that
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offensive offensive skill position players can succeed more than fail.
That people like when you score fifty points, far more
so than when you score ten and win. Offense wins.
Defense still wins championship. Offense phill seats, offense wins you
fantasy football. Offense is fun. So what do you think
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it is? What? What is? Look? We saw this. It
didn't work with Mark Tressman with the Chicago Bears. He
was their quarterback guru, quarterback whisper uh. He was promoted
to head coach and he could not handle the day
to day responsibilities. And it is not working with Dirk Cutter.
It doesn't appear to be working with Ben McAdoo either.
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And yet you look at Doug Peterson, who was not
even a coordinator or a quarterback coach, not calling plays
with the Kansas City Chiefs. You look at Sean McVeigh,
who was, in fact the coordinator, is now calling plays
and is also the head coach of the Rams, and
you say, Doug, you're wrong, You're absolutely wrong. The coordinator
to head coach. It's it's sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't,
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and there's other factors at play. And I would tend
to say there are other factors, like advancing in your
same shop is hard. Everybody says, loyalty is rewarded. You
come up, you start in the mail room, you work
your way up, and someday you son, you could be
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a head coach. Someday you in turn could be on air.
Someday you lowest man on the totem pole could be
top of the total pole. It sounds great, but the
truth is, it's the shine box theory, right, That's where
the it's the shine box. It's um. If you've ever
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seen good Fellas, there's the famous scene in good Fellas
where Billy Batts is celebrating his birthday, and of course
Joe Pesci's character he is at the bar and Billy
Batts gets back. He just got back out of prison,
all right, and he tells Joe Pesci's character to go
get his shine backs because back in the day, on
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his way up, he used to shine everybody's shoes, like
I remember you when you worked in the mail room.
I remember you when you didn't call plays. I remember
you went and you carry that bias as opposed to
the ability to remake yourself elsewhere. The parallel in Tampa
with Dirk Cutter is not that he was in experience.
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Dirk Cutter has been a head coach. I'll be in
college before. It's not that Dirk Cutter's an idiot doesn't
know what he's doing. He's been successful calling plays in
the NFL. It's it's really hard to be the offensive
coordinator and play color of the Tampa Buccaneers and then
being viewed as Okay, now I'm going to be the
head coach. Ben McAdoo was the offensive coordinator play color,
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now he's the head coach. Peterson had to leave Kansas City.
Kyle Shanahan had to leave Atlanta. It's been Sean McVeigh
had to leave DC, even Jake Gruden, even Jay Gruden
who just beat Seattle on the road. Bruton was calling
plays for the Cincinnati Bengals. So it's not that the
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coordinator to head coach doesn't work. It's that it's really
hard from being an assistant to being a head coach
in the same place. And the reason is very very simple.
Right coaches usually do good cop bad cop. You guys
know a good cop, bad cup, you do good cop.
At you do good coup bagative backup, you do good cup.
And coordinators are almost always almost always good cops, right,
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especially offensive coordinator. We don't like the offensive coordinator. They
call it plays right, They draw things up in the dirt,
They spread the football around. The key got the quarterbacks
ear But quarterbacks and offenses and cordinas are seen as
soft and on the defensive side of the ball, that
means challengeable. We can challenge your authority. And when you
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heard Rodney Harrison on Sunday Night Football say, I think
the Giants defense quit. When you hear about the rumblings
within the Tampa Buccaneers locker room and and how dysfunctional
it appears to be, the parallel is very simple. You
bring offensive guys in from a different system. They can
walk our walk in strong armed, because you don't remember
them shining shoes in the shoe box, the shine box.
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Excuse me, but if you are just calling plays three
months ago or fifteen months ago, and you're the offensive guy,
you're soft. You gotta throw passes. You want to talk quarterbacks,
You want nothing to do with defense. You are challenge
a bull. And in a world like the National Football
League where players are remember, Um, you guys remember in
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uh Jurassic Park how they talked about raptors and what
they said about raptors. They remember you. They not just
they don't just remember you. But what are they constantly doing,
John Ramos? They're constantly testing the fences, right, They never
test the same fence, part of fence twice, but they're
constantly testing the fences. That's what dudes are like in
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the NFL. They're constantly testing defenses. And when Ben McAdoo
does nothing to keep Odell Beckham Jr. In line, the
defense is like he's soft, he's a pushcholfer. I mean,
did you hear Ben McAdoo when he was asked about
his halftime speech yesterday keep fighting and keep coaching at halftime? Um,
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that was not there was not doctored. That's actually what
he said. He had either something went completely amiss that
he didn't want to share, or he had nothing to
actually share at halftime. Keep fighting, keep coaching is the
most cliche thing ever. Even if that's what he said,
there's a bunch of dudes in the locker room going like, oh,
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this guy didn't have it. Even if you don't know
what you're doing, you walk into locker room and you
start kicking over trash cans, and then you take a
breath and you say, all right, we gotta plan. Here's
what we're gonna do. But what appears to be blatantly obvious.
Sean Payton was calm plays with the Dallas Cowboys. He
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went to New Orleans, became head coach, but staying in
the same place. When they remember you as the coffee
and the cream and sugar guy. Look at Arrol Watson, right.
Earl Watson was the workout coach. He was behind the
bench with the Phoenix Suns. All the players loved him,
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loved him. Man, this dude, row Watson, he gets it.
He's like my age. He played in the league for
thirteen years. Workout dude gets it. Love him. He becomes
head coach, and all of a sudden they're like, well,
you can't be everybody's friend anymore. Head coach gotta do
bad things. Gotta cut dudes, Gotta call him in and
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rem amount. You gotta monitor defense, offense, special teams, Gotta
get onto your coaching staff. It ain't about just drawing
up cute plays and trying to find mismatches. It's about
managing egos day to day and they will, like the raptors,
test that fence every day to see how much electrical
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Radio app. Lance mccullos joins us on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
They had the victory parade. He spent the night with
his bay. Of course, that is the championship trophy which
was in his room in Los Angeles before they flew
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back to Houston. More than anything, he got to start.
He got the call to start Game seven at Dodger
Stadium and he picked up the phone. We called him today, Lance,
how are you hey, guys doing great man for having
me Lance. Okay, so, uh, let's let's just start with
day of Game seven of the World Series, right. It's
all anybody could hope for, anybody could dream of twenty
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years from now when you have people little kids run
around asking you about what that was like, what was
the day leading up to the game? Like, well, I
mean the day before I was, I was ready to
go out of the bullpen, so, um, you know I
was throwing. I was, you know, constantly being ready to
come in for Game six because we were treating Game
six like like a must win game if we have
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the opportunity to win it late. So I was actually
gonna come in and close Game six, and it got
to that point. So I didn't even know I was
actually starting the game until after Game six when when
a J told me. But honestly, I felt I felt
awkwardly calm um a little bit. I was. I was
pretty nervous in the ALCS pre game. When I say nervous,
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I was just pretty anxious to get out there, and
the same thing in game three. But the team had
had a very a very weird calm about it. We
felt very comfortable going into Game seven and new, you know,
if we come and play our best ball, we're probably
probably gonna take on the championship. Okay, so remind me
that you were throwing at Dodger Stadium after Game six.
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You're out there, did a J tell you before that
and that's why you went out there and throw right? Yeah? Exactly,
Because you know I had tossed during the game a
little bit in the pen um, and if I was
going to stand in the bullpen for game seven to
potentially close the game. In the game seven, that's all
I wouldn't need to throw. But you know, I needed
a little bit more work if I was gonna start,
you know, to work on some of my stuff. So
a j called down told me, hey, you're starting game seven.
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So that's why I had to go out to the
field and play catch. I did the same thing in
New York post game three before Game four. But it
was funny because I guess Clayton Kershall had come to
the mound at minimde before he started he was going
to start game game five. Yeah, he did. He he
said out there and he was looking at and he
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was throwing. Somebody said, what you were you were They
thought you were tweaking him. Yeah, someone, I'll have you
on Twitter. You know, people on Twitter light to come
up with these crazy conspiracies. They were saying that I
was going out there to to get back for for
him doing that to us in our field, and I
was trying to make fun of him for doing it,
and I was doing it for the cameras because I
guess the post game show caught me throwing. It was
nothing other than I literally hadn't thrown enough to be
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able to pitch the next day, so I had to
get out there and do my work. Okay, So you
get out there the next day, and you even admitted
as such afterwards that you you didn't have it. Lancepo
Colors joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on a
maout of fact. Here's what you said after the game.
I know I didn't have much to give other than
just trying to gut it out as long as I could.
The team news, you know that I got the short least,
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but everyone's ready to go with the bull friend today
and you saw all of our best guys come out
of there, and you know, I got it out as
long as I could. This is this is crazy, okay. So,
like you're up there and obviously you had the two
nothing lead, they had the airs in the first inning,
and the second inning you had the big you had
the big home run, but you know there's there's there's
runners aboard, and you survived those first two innings with
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without much in terms of your normal stuff. What's that
feeling like of just hoping that it's enough to get by. Well,
I mean, for me, what I meant by that was,
I just I don't think anyone has a whole lot
left to give on November one. I mean, people forget
that we're playing baseball at you know, full game speed.
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Really since the middle of February went when spring training hits,
because as soon as those lives storm or as soon
as those spring training games get going, I mean, you
did whatever you have at that point. Obviously you build
your strength during the season, but come to Thember one,
it's been eight months. You know, guys are dealing with injuries,
Guys are dealing with just being overall exhausted. So um,
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we had all of our guys available. So I know
going into the game that you know, I couldn't read
the rig on the wall. I need to give this
team three or four good innings. And uh, you know,
I didn't have my best stuff. I was able to survive,
able to make big pitches, got the outs when I
needed them. I'm accustomed so you know, sometimes having to
work in and out of trouble. So I was pretty
I was pretty proud that I didn't let the moment
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kind of kind of get too big on me. And
even when I was, you know, kind of hitting guys um.
But hey, I don't think any of those guys that
I ended up by unfortunately hitting Diet much damage the
rest of the game. So maybe uh it worked out
the long run. You brush Justin Turner getting pegged. How
do you how do you keep your composure right? Like?
You go out there, you got a too nothing lead,
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and I mean like Chris Tail starts out with a
double and you get a seecret to strike out. Okay,
but then you hit Justin Turner. Um, you strike out Bellinger,
but that was kind of everybody striking out Bellinger. I mean,
but you hit two guys. How do you not like
freak out? You're up there game seven, you got to
nothing lead and you just hit two dudes in the
first inning, But you didn't freak out? How well, because
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that was my game plan going into the game. I
throw a lot of stinkers um down. I selt a
lot of curve balls down. But the teams Dodges are
very good down hitting team. They struggle with more up
in the zone. So I kind of changed my game
plan going into game seven and to pitch more up
and I'm just not used to it, so some of
those balls are getting awaye for me. But it wasn't
like I wasn't trying. I was trying to execute my plan,
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and I almost I guess you could say I even
executed it too well, as I wasn't getting up an
end just a little bit too much. So for me,
when I saw that happening from the outside looking in,
it's easy to say he has no idea with the
ball is going. But for me, I'm trying to throw
it up in there. You know, I'm just not doing
a good enough job of staying online and really sticking
it up in there. Um, I felt fine, I knew that,
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you know, lead off double, no big deal. I got
I got secured a punch, then Turner. I hit Turner,
and now I'm saying in my head, hey, don't play
one pitch two outs. And then once I got Bell
and dra out, I'm saying, all you gotta do is
get one out here, even after I hit Pleaks. So
I kind of try to keep it, keep it one
one out of the time, one pitch at a time.
And I think that's how you don't let you know
moments you know kind of get get on you too much.
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I see a big silver lining guy, right, You're like, oh,
I hit him, but at least now double players back
in and you're just the same. If you look at it,
you're saying, my goodness, I'm facing the hottest hitter, you know,
Peterson with the bases loaded the first inning, Oh my
goship deal to lead then before you know, you're gonna
give a grand slam. Uh. So for me, it's just about, hey,
make your pitches when you have to, get big outs
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when you have to. And uh, you know I came
out of the game. No runs came across um when
I was out there or of mine and the guys
came behind me did a great job, like I said,
So it was a full team effort in that game seven. Uh,
George Springer was the m v P. And he goes
from I mean he was he really struggled against the
Yankees to being just a complete after game one he
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was completely and thoroughly dominant, right like he just how
does that? How does that happen? And please don't go well,
that's just baseball. It's more than just no, it's not
just baseball. Yeah, so how's that happened. It happens because
you know, George's George has been one of our guys
all year, and everyone has confidence in him, and he
knows that regardless of the outcomes, because he's put himself
in a position where he is, you know, held held
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high in the eyes of all of us here with
with the Astros. He knows he's going to be back
out there. So his confidence wasn't down as far as
it AM not going to be the lineup? Am I
not going to be in the lineup. He may have
been more frustrated because you know, he wasn't he wasn't producing,
But you had to remember this guy hit two eighty
plus and thirty plus Homer's first half All Star. I mean,
he's not really short on confidence. So he was just
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going to a little slump, and he really started swinging
out better pitches, honestly, and you can ask him. He
started kind of tighten his own up a little bit,
started letting pitches come to him. You know, I think
I'm not really a hitter. I did have an RBI
in Game seven, but I'm not really a hitter. So, uh,
you know, I think I'm really happy for him because
he really showed the world what he's about. Lance but
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colors joining us on the Doug got Lip Show. Did
did you and your wife get invited to the Berlin
the wedding? No? No I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
know j V until he just got traded over here. Um.
But he couldn't do the last he couldn't do the
last minute in the minute invite, Like, look, I know,
but I'm getting married my wife. My wife and I
got married almost two years ago now, and the invite list,
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the wedding list, who we were inviting, who we weren't inviting, Um,
was the probably the most stressful momentum of our lives,
way way worse than having to pitch in the game seven.
So I would never have expected him to give a
late minute invite or anyone else. I know, it's getting married.
You don't have room. Hey, no skin off your back.
You can leave me off. I'm not I'm not gonna
be offended. You're gonna get him anything? Uh No, probably not? Okay,
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I mean, what do you get the guy who has everything?
What was your what was your first song that you
guys danced to? That's actually a very big that's as
big a decision as who gets invited and who doesn't.
Because you're like, oh, this is our song, She's like, no,
we're not play and baby got back that is not
Our first song was a was a violin remix by
Lindsay Sterling of of John Legends all of Me. So uh,
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it was it was, It's it's pretty. It's actually a
pretty pretty cool remix. I think Wendy Sterling is a
super super talented UM artists, so it was pretty cool
to be able to use that. A couple of days ago,
you guys did something the local Humane Society right for
try and rescue dogs. You guys didn't rescue another dog yourself,
did you? No, No, we have to ourselves already. Um
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we we actually we have adopted three total, but the
third one, um is my brothers now because our she
was a female and our other female that we've had
for a while didn't take towards too much. Um. But no,
we we had a big adoption event. You know, a
lot of animals got adopted, some good money was raised.
It's pretty cool to see the city support not only
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us on the field, but a lot of guys have
some off field endeavors that are close to our hearts
and we appreciate how they support us there too. Okay, So, um,
I saw the tweet when you had the championship trophy
in your room. Um, as a guy who's the son
of a former major league or to have that, uh,
that have that reality moment of holy cow, we we
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just did it, um, And I was on the mound
to start game seven, Like, what what is that moment
like where you realize kind of like your life, his life,
all the intersections and you finally reach the top of
that mountain. Well, it's kind of crazy, man. I mean
people will always ask you how to feel, you know,
be a world champion has to steal it. It's hard
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to put in a word. You just feel vindicated almost
like all the hard work. You know, obvious feel that
way when you get to the big leagues. But when
you get here, you have you have aspirations to wor
world championship and uh, you're coming into the season, was
there was there was a lot of pressure on us.
I don't even want to call it pressure obviously, expectations
on the team to you know, be a very good
team and to achieve a lot and so to be
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able to do that, and you know, bring the city
of championship and which season is starving for one for
a long time, and especially everything everyone's had to go through, UM,
and the way we did it, I think I think
it was just it's just a big sigh relief and
a lot of a lot of hard work that's come
to fruition. And it was cool. After we got back
from the game, I stole the trophy out of the
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locker room and brought it down into the lobby with
all the Astros fans that were, UM kind of hold
up in the lobby and my my family was down there.
They all got to see it and take pictures with it. UM.
So it's been a long ride for a lot of us,
and uh, some a lot more than others. But it
was just a cool moment for everyone to experience. All Right.
The thing I got to criticize you for is all
the curveballs you've been throwing. I have. I have an
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eight year old. We've watched all of your games and
he's like, Dad, I see you have to throw a curveball. Look,
he throws a curveball. Alright. So for the young burgeoning
pictures out there talking to somebody who has the most
dynamic curveball in the playoffs this year? When do you
start throwing it? I started throwing my breaking ball when
I were a six team. Actually, um, I didn't. I
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didn't really pitch that much growing up. Um. After my
freshman year at my high school in Tampa, actually committed
to the University of Florida as a position player, and
I started pitching more my sophomore junior season. I learned
my curveball after my sophomore sing during my sophomore summer,
So going into my junior year is when I learned
when I learned to throw the curveball. But the big
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thing for people asking all the time when you start throwing,
I think the biggest thing is, if you're listening out there,
don't don't manipulate your wrists to make the ball, make
the ball move. Don't don't do something to get results
that you know it's abnormal for your arms. Find a
grip that works for you and works for your arm motion,
so that makes the ball move move more naturally. Uh,
and you you should be just fine. So so like
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if you do a C grip, for example, you know
the old overhand curve that we're we're all taught like
in in Mustang or in Pony. Right, it's the idea
that your your arm kind of naturally turns over more
so than just kind of trying to twist your wrist,
because that puts the strain on your elbow. Because when
you come through and you finish it, no matter what
pitchs you throw your arm half to prote That's what
kind of help helps protect your elbow, protect your shoulder,
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and helps your arms slow down. So when you're coming
through and you're about to release that ball, if you
have your you know, your wrist locked or your hand
you know, really kind of spun around the baseball when
you throw that pitch, you're not allowing your arm to
do its natural pro nation. Post throw is when you're
gonna you're gonna run into injuries, serious injuries. You know,
I've been I've had a lot of nagging things that
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you know, I have to put me on the d
L here and there, um, But thankfully I have no major,
major injuries. But yeah, don't don't manipulate the ball to
do something that your body, you know, isn't willing to
make it do. All right, man, Well, listen, you you
stared down Aaron Judge in one, and you stare down
the Dodgers in one. Uh. The Houston Nastals are World
Series champions and you're a huge reason why. Enjoy the
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victory lap and thanks so much for joining us. Hey, guys,
thank you. That's Lance mccollos Jr. Joining us. Fox Sports
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the Romo versus Dion first because it's great sound and
part of sports radio one on one kids is you
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have great sound. He got to play it as often
as possible. Tony Romo was calling his first Cowboys game
yesterday as a member of CBS's lead broadcasting crew. He
got a rousing ovation and a welcome back video. Romo
beloved member of the Cowboy community still even though he
lost his job to injury, which the stupidest thing we
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say every year is you never lose your job to injury. Yeah,
Tony Romo just did so. Uh. At some point during
the game, I believe he was discussing Marcus Peters, who
is a very good player and maybe an over overly
discussed player, but he had this to say during the game.
He's really good out there at the corner off coverage,
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but in tackling, and he makes de Sanders look good
at tackling sometimes, right, so he makes Deon set Now, look,
anybody who was alive to through the Dion Sanders era,
if you will, knew he was a spectacular kick and
punt returner. Um. I don't think there's any question. He's
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regarded as the best cover, lockdown corner in the history
of the National Football League. He had speed, uh, he
could read a quarterback. He seemed to be able to
read his wide receivers. He was generally a menace. He
retired a couple of times, came out of retirement to
play with the Ravens and still had incredible speed and gifts.
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But he was also a guy that stayed way the
hell away from actual contact. That wasn't his thing, that
wasn't his game. And pros always tell you played your strengths,
not your weaknesses. So it was kind of funny. Cowboy
on Cowboy. Hey, he makes Deon Sanders look like a
good tackler. Funny, here's Dion on NFL network. I tried
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my best to take the high roll. I don't know
the address to the high row. So I got to
come at you. Man. Ten years as a start of
your two and four in the playoffs, you a won nothing.
I tried to bury the hatchet. Both of us worked
for CBS. I went and shook your hand and say, Tony,
you're doing a great job this year. I thought that
would be would never less you keep on showing at me, Tony,
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what's going on? Man? I got a gold jacket that
I didn't buy. Dax says Hi and by Tony, leave
me alone, man, I got a lot of ammunition. Man,
I'm in any deception. I'm an interception nineteen twelve. Come on, man,
you throw to everybody but me, Tony. Come on, man,
you know you never won the big one. You know
you never won the big one, So stop man, leave
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me alone. I tried to take the high roll, but
I don't know that what an a hole? Deon Sanders
is an a hole. I worked for CBS. Nobody was
fired up about Dion Sanders coming back to work for CBS. Okay,
it was because the NFL network and CBS made a deal,
and he's the NFL networks guy. I know we have.
By the way, Dion is very good on TV, and
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that's very very funny. If if Tony would have come
at him personally and come at him and like, that
would have been But simply saying it's alluding to Marcus
Peters being such a poor tackler that he makes Dion
Sanders look good, does not in any way open the
door to you. Got like playoff record, dad taking your job?
What an a hole? What a complete hall of fame
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a whole like did like he's went totally personal in
terms of your career, like well, he didn't talk about
his wife, no, did. He went personal. He went on
all the different triggers of Cowboy fans. He acted like, look,
I've been holding this back. I don't you know, I've
been holding this back and haven't let on letting on
Tony Romo for a long time. I never really liked him,
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but only because he works for CBS. I chose to
keep my key and he played for the Cowboys. Keep
my mouth shut, but now I'm not going to what
a jerk who does that? And Chris Rose laughing it
was funny unless you're Tony Romo, Like Romo was not
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out there was, there was. I don't think anybody could
listen to Romo and think it was mean spirited. And
it doesn't mean that Dion is wrong for what he said.
He did have a bad playoff record, he did throw
nineteen interceptions. This is this is all true, all all true.
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But what are you doing, Deon? Like is it okay
for Romo now to go and talk about the craziness
with you and your wife and her calling the cops
and that that kind of stuff, or the fact that
because des Briant had dinner with you and your agent,
he got and he lied about it, he got kicked
off the team in Oklahoma State? Like, how personal can
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we go now that you've gone personal? A Tony Romo?
What a jerk? And again this is me saying, like
Deon Sanders is, without any question, in my lifetime, the
best cover owner. And I actually think he's really good
on TV. I don't think he's great with the interview
stuff because it's all about him and whatever. He's brilliant
in regards to his ability to really really a point
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on football. He is incredibly well respected. You ask any
of these guys who are cornerbacks and you're like, who's
the goat. They'll all say Dion Sanders. None will say otherwise,
but like what a jerk. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
(30:33):
pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Some people are just not good
at firing up other people. Some people are just not
good at at at public speaking. Like tomorrow, I'm gonna
do the show from Stillwater, Oklahoma. Now I'm doing Don't
Laugh the School of Business. They have a conference on ethics,
(30:55):
so I'm talking about business ethics. I have no idea
what talk about. No, I'm not like Ramos is laughing.
I really don't know. Like I've been trying to. I
usually work it out in my head, jotted down a
couple of notes, right, But when the red light goes
on or somebody says, go, I know about how long
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to talk about? How to do it? Tell him a joke, um,
and I'll figure it out. But not everybody is good
at this, and it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. I
think not just not everybody's good at press conferences and analogies,
like here's Cam Newton trying to analogize his team continuing
(31:45):
to push ahead even though they trade away Calvin Benjamin.
You know, yeah, we just lost a great player, but nevertheless,
you know, the Titanics do. It has to go? Um um,
the Titanic sunk. Cam, I don't know how like, are
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you trying to tell me that Kelvin Benjamin was an
Iceberg dead ahead and no one realized the damage done
by the by the tear in the hull left behind
from Kelvin Benjamin being traded away. You know, yeah, we
just lost a great player, but nevertheless, you know, the
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Titanics do. That has to go. Yeah. I don't even
think that's close to the parallel you want to make. Yeah,
I know I'm gonna go out and live here and
say that. Cam does not realize the Titanic sunk, nor
has he ever seen the movie Titanic. There's no way
Iceberg dead ahead. I know how the world works, but listen,
(32:54):
he doesn't have to be good at analogies. Doesn't just
don't make tim We'll make them. It's like not funny
guy trying to crack a joke. Hey, look, Jamis Winston
got all that credit for um. Remember when he went
back to Florida State's game to start the year. Go
back to last year. So y'all, y'all some puppies, y'all
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playing like puppies. We some dogs. Remember that we some dogs.
And because that was so well received. Because it was
so well received, he chose to give another impassioned pregame
speech that was caught on camera by our Fox TV crew.
I wonder about look at me. It's the corn up
I say one day. Not That's how if you want
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to is he can cussed? He can't go CT because
he's like in his third year in the NFL, like
if your post career, like, man, I'm sorry, I got
I got a little CT setting in right or I
was concussed. That was before the game, before you men
lay a hand on him. That was the That was
(34:00):
a blue Tarski. That was the blue do coming in
saying was it over? When the Germans bu bomb bro Harbor,
he's not a roll. Oh yeah. By the way, they
also got blown out by the New Orleans Saints. Some
people aren't good at pregame speeches. Some guys aren't good
at the podium thing. What really matters is are you
good on third down? And good in the red zone.
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Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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Let's welcome in. Brian Baldinger does a great job over
the NFL networking. He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
It's not Is it crazy for those of us who
didn't play, warn't experts to say, Hey, I watched Kaepernick
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and I know not all athletic quarterbacks are the same,
but it does have some experience. He did run kind
of a creative offense in college or some creativity at
times in San Francisco. Is it crazy to think he
could be the best possible option out there for the Texans.
That's not crazy to think of that right now, Doug. Uh,
you know, Shawn Watson was on a pace that we've
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never seen before. Um, seventeen touchdown passes in his time
in the offense that he was running. Isn't the offense
that they prepared for and ran in the spring of
the summer. I mean it was catering to Deshaun Watson.
It was changing weekly and um, you know, his ability
to see the field to extend plays. All that stuff was,
(35:23):
you know, it was phenomenal, was great to watch, great,
great theater. That game in Seattle was as good a
game as we played in the NFL this year. Uh,
and that offense continued to expand because of the abilities
that Deshaun Watson kept displaying. Is it ridiculous to think
that Colin Kaepernick could do some of those things? No,
it's not ridiculous to think that at all. But they
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haven't picked up the phone. And then so to this point,
it's Tom Savage, it's mcgloyd, it's t J. Yates, It's
guys who are either familiar with O'Brien or familiar with Houston,
which is kind of part are kind of normal for
the course in the NFL, normal for the course really
in any business, right, you hire the guys that you
know how you connect the dots, Doug, you always connect
the dots. I mean you Age took him to who
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was in a playoff game with them? And Savage, you know,
was in the playoffs last year and started the season
this year. You go, it's what you kind of know.
All that stuff is true, and it's fair. Now, Look,
I know people in this league that don't think Colin
Kaepernick is very good and he's wouldn't be a great
backup if he had to go into Houston and be
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a great backup where he's got to help the starter
until he becomes a chance to become a starter. I mean,
I know guys that believe that. I believe he's not
ever going to be accurate enough to be a real
good player in this league. That's just coming from people
that have coached him and played with them. That doesn't
mean that he can't add a spark to the Houston
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Texas right now, a team that looks like they desperately
need one tender. Agree with you, Doug Show, But well,
well we shall. We shall see what they do. Um
What happened to Kansas City? I know they've had some injuries,
um on on both sides of the football. I mean,
I think the Eric Barry injury is still one that
will always hurt you because he's arguably the best of
his position in the sport. But I watched them against
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the Cowboys. Cowboys get Sean Lee back, to get David
Irving back, and they appear to be improving as opposed
to Kansas City seems to be leveling off, losing three
over their last four. What's happened to Kansas City. Well,
let's see, there's a lot of things that have gone on.
I mean, what is Alice is is a totally different
team defensively, when Shawn Lee's in the game, I mean,
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he's just one of those guys that gets everybody lined up.
You don't block him. He'll make every play in the
run game. I mean, he's just a computer out there
and he gets to the football. There are better defense
when he's on the field. They're a good offense. They're
a really good offense, and that's a tough team to defend.
And Dak Prescott, you know, made a lot of really
good throws yesterday. Dens Bryant got involved, Called Beasley got
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in the end zone for a couple of times. They're
tough to stop. Kansas City has been beat up up front.
They still have not played with Laurent duven A tardif
they were out with they were out with the center
Mitch Moore for a long time. He's back now, he's
getting back into shape. They're not getting the big plays
that they were getting earlier. They're not getting Kareem Hunt,
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who was on pace for well over two thousand total yards.
They're not getting him loose the way they once were.
I thought they ran into a pretty good football team
on a short week yesterday afternoon, and I think that
was part of it. Brian Baldinger joining us on the
Doug Gotlip Show here on the Fox Sports Radio. Kim
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Newton had a much better game than he had had
previously with Kelvin Benjamin, but they did so using him
as their lead running back. How much longevity does that have?
I mean, like, look, we've seen so many athletic quarterbacks
get hit, get beat up. I know he was sliding
and he's sliding well before contact, but I'm just I'm
just wondering if you can do that for the entirety
of an NFL season, I don't know. I mean, he's
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been beat up before. He was one to and that's
scoring ten touchdowns two years ago and the m v
P of the league. Um, if you try to protect
Cam Newton from getting hit, from getting injured, I just
think you're wasting your time. I Mean, part of what
makes him so unique is his size and his running
a building. He's an excellent runner, He's hard to tackle.
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He wears defensive down. If you're gonna just keep throwing
screens and checkdowns to Christian McCaffrey and game six yards,
you're you're not going to get the chunks you need.
You're not going to get the third down conversions you
need either. They're a more difficult offense to defend when
Cam Newton is a viable runner. Now will that will
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that catch up to him? It might, but I don't
think that they're going to get to the playoffs unless
they act and use Cam Newton in the running game.
Right now, I don't think they're gonna come out of
the NFC Salt with New Orleans out there right now.
I know at Lantas you're truggling, but I don't believe
they'll come out of winning that division lest Cam dot
is a big part of that offense, and that is
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being a runner as well as what he does. Thrown
help me out with with what's happened to Dirk Cutter
and if there's any similarities and what's happening to Ben McAdoo,
and look, I started the show ball he's talking about.
Look some of the a lot of these coaches now
were the quarterback whispers offensive coordinators from from Jay Gruten
uh even Doug Peterson. I know he wasn't calling plays
(40:29):
in Kansas City, but and he was in large part
to help fix their quarterback situation. That has worked. But
the ones that have worked have been guys that have
gone other places as opposed to Cutter going from the
quarterback guru to being the head coach. Ben McAdoo kind
of the exact same thing. Is it about changing locations
so that people don't don't liken you to the same
(40:49):
guy who was the coordinator now being the head coach,
or is it about the personnel that's really brought down
the Buccaneers brought down the Giants. I'm I'm sorry by
both teams. I really am. Doug. I saw I saw
Tampa in the preseason, and I saw all the new additions,
I saw the attitude, I saw the coach, and I
saw it all and I I'm shocked. I mean, I
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was shocked away. I was shocked by Caroline is down
called a year ago. All the tools are there, Jamee's
is not making the same place that he made a
year ago, and they're turning the ball over too much.
I saw him up in Buffalo with a chance to
win the game two weeks ago, and they made you know,
they fumbled late in the fourth quarter with the chance
to go win the game. They're making the plays that
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are costing them games right now. And the offense has
never gotten into gear. It's never clicked this season, and
I don't know, like it's still you know, still got
half the season to go. But sometimes you find it.
They found it last year the middle of the season,
they won five in a row. They made a run
to the playoffs. They lost to Dallas and they kind
of got bounced out, but they looked like a team
(41:54):
that was on the rise. But last year has nothing
to do with this year. They just haven't clicked yet.
Sean Jackson, Michael Evans, O, j Howard, all the pieces
they brought there to really surround themselves with Jane's and
give him the best possible weapons you could get. It
hasn't clicked. Is that Dirk Cutter means the same offenses
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last year. They're just not making the place this year. Um,
New Orleans started out oh and two and I left
him for dead. I just did you know the defense?
You know why you did? Though? Do you know why
you left him for dead because of what they've done
the last three or four years. You're like, it's the
same old Saints, no defense, that's I mean, and that's
that You're not wrong. You're not wrong at all by
(42:38):
saying that after two games. But what happened totally different defense.
It's a totally different defense. Marshall and Lottimore. He is
such a spark right now, Doug. He is the best
corner I've seen him coming in this league since Darrell
read this period. You can give him a third of
the field, a half of the field. It's not just
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quarterback play. He is football smart. He understands how you attack.
He knows when the layoff. He's a tackler. Now you
add Sheldon Rankings and Cam Jordan's right, he had something
on Yachta, and you add you know, von Bell, and
you know you look at Kenny Ricaro. They looked like
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he had him on a trading block five weeks ago.
He's a valuable play defensively right now. They've sparked this turnaround.
I know that the Broncos winning the Philadelphia and the
and the Eagles have a tremendous front seven. The Broncos
offensive line is not good that's not good. Um, But
I mean, how can John Elway strike out on so
many quarterbacks? Right? Like Packeon Lynch isn't healthy. But there's
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a reason that they didn't hand the hand the ball
to Packion Lynch to start the season. How can the
Broncos swing and miss on so many quarterbacks. I'll tell
you this to Doug. I did that game for National
Radio today and I was talking to a high ranking
Eagle personnel person and quote unquote, he said this about
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brock oss wilet. He stinks and he did yesterday because
his job yesterday was to manage the game defensively. They
were hoping to be able to stay in the game
and have Brock cos while I handed off to a
pretty good rushing attack, you know, and not turn the
ball over. And in the first quarter he turns turns
the ball over a terrible throw, and the Eagles took
(44:24):
it and scored, and you know, and they just kept
piling on. He had two terrible throws for interceptions, probably
should have another one pick he's and the Eagles Jim
Schwartz knows that at six ft eight, he's a long
stride or he doesn't throw off his back foot you know,
he has to step into his throws, and if you
bring pressure right into his face, I mean he's done.
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And that's what they did. They ran the pressure. They
put Fletcher Cox in the center, they put line packers
of the eight gaps. They came right out of him.
If he can't step into his throws, he's not effective,
and he wasn't effective yesterday. And how John Hellwie keeps
striking out on this. I no, No, it seemed like
Tony Romo was available and they didn't want any part. Now.
I like what Tony is doing in the booth right now, Doug.
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But if you had asked Tony Romo back in March
you want to go quarterback the Denver Broncos and you
have a range just the way Peyton Manning did, it
looked like there's a lot of pieces in place there
and they decided not to do it. So you know,
I mean that's John is a smart man, but not
making good decisions at that position right now. Last last thing,
rams Hang fifty one on the Giants. We talked about
(45:29):
what a disaster the Giants are for just a little
bit um, but it sure feels like every piece that
they've added has has worked for the Rams, and like look,
by has come at the right time and they're really
one Cooper Cup catch away from being UH seven and
one on the season. What's your reaction to the rams
complete turnaround? Well, I mean it's the you know, the
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biggest addition to that entire organization. Sean McVeigh, I mean,
he's just look. John Gruden was a thirty two year
old head coach and John Madden was a thirty two
year old head coach, and Sean McVeigh is of the
same hilt. He is that guy. He's a difference maker.
His design of offense is with the precision of a
diamond cutter, and it is beautiful to watch. And Jared
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Goff is a completely different quarterback and the offense makes sense.
He changed the offense after the second week of the
season when he realized that Todd Gurley was not gonna
be a shotgun spread offense running back. You had to
put him seven and a half eight yards for Jared
Goff under center. He changed that. He fixed that, He
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got Todd Gurley, fixed play action passes off it, he
fixed his quarterback. He's taken cast away from Buffalo and
Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins, and these guys are bona
fide players and Cooper Cup was the missing piece to
work the middle of the field. Gerald Everett is a
big time deep threat and he could do a lot
of other things. They added the left tackle, They fixed
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the offense on McVeigh. If you don't want to give
a Coach of the Year, Doug Peterson right now to
get but those two guys right now have fixed these teams.
You can hear about Nashal Radio and Westwood One. Of course,
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(47:19):
Just hashtag Baldy breakdown. Brian great stuff. Thanks so much
for join us and giving us your incredible insight. Be
sure to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Look, there's
been a lot of discussions about the Giants and what's
wrong with them, and and and Jerry Reese, their general manager,
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should not avoid should not avoid um uh the criticism
because though Odell Beckham Jr. Got hurt, And though Odell
Beckham Jr. Is a polarizing figure, Odell Beckham Junior is
not responsible for how many other putrid draft choices they
have made over the past couple of years and their
inability to fix the offensive line. They fix the defense.
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Going back to last year and this this past offseason,
they tried to fix the offensive line. They could not
do it, did not do it. It's just not better.
It's just not good enough. What's fascinating to me, faster
to me, though, is how some will defend oh b
J And say, like, look, he's got nothing to do
(48:23):
with their downfall. It's not his fault that he got hurt.
But if you don't think that he's a divisive force,
look at how uh I mean look his desire to
be a megastar, his desire to push the envelope as
to celebrations and flamboyance and getting into two wrestling matches
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and fights with other players and and arguing on the sidelink.
Those those things, Those things bring attention to your club,
and those things cause ahead coach should have to decide,
like do I punish my best player or do I
stand by him, in support him and talk to him
behind closed doors. But the problem is that you are
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a reflection every team, every coach. We'll tell you this,
this inarguable fact, your reflection of your best player, your
most talented player. You are a reflection of them, a
reflection of them. And when Odell Beckham Jr. Is a megastar,
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and yet he scores a touchdown and he peas on
the ball when he constantly needs attention, when he constantly
needs affection, his desire is he really gets it out there.
He wants the biggest contract in the history of the
sport instead of Look, the proper way to do it is, Hey,
you know what, I just keep playing football. Everything's gonna
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take care of yourself. That's what Aaron Rodgers did. You
don't think Aaron Rodgers wants the biggest contract in the
history of the sport. Of course he does. You don't
think he deserves it. Of course he does, more so
than LBJ. But what did he say, Hey, I just
keep playing. That stuff always takes care of itself. And
it's true with Odell Beckham Jr. But instead you put
it out there, you leak it out there. That stuff
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doesn't get out there unless you want it out there.
By the way, becomes more of a polarizing figure. Polarizing figure,
and that's not good when you're the wide receiver. Wide
receivers are always allowed a little bit more space and
trash talking a little mill more space in flamboyance. But
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there does come place when flamboyance becomes annoyance. And that's
what he got to before he got hurt, in spite
of his immense talents. And he's a crazy town
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio, coming to you from the City of Angels
where uh yeah, Dodgers let Los Angeles down last week,
but the Rams picked him up and the Lakers won
(00:21):
again last night and Stables beating the Memphis Grizzlies. Things
shaping up on the West side. Rad is getting in
in Miami. We got a lot to get to. We
got college football where from hey, Ohio States back to
Ohio States back. Um, we have the two. We we
will announce the two thousand seventeen NFL September champions We
(00:45):
will announce the two thousand seventeen October Heisman Trophy winner. Yes,
I know it's November. You will understand when we get
to it. We got a lot to get to today.
But let's start where uh, I don't know if they're
shutting down Jamis Winston because of his terrible pregame speech
(01:05):
where he was telling his teammates to eat the W. Yeah,
eat the W. That was that was awkward. It's awkward.
It's like one of those rants where you're just you're
it's like blushi in um in uh animal house? Right?
(01:26):
Was it over when the Germans bar bomb bar Harbor? Hello,
That's what it felt like. Jamis Winston being shut down
for a substantial amount of time for the Buccaneers. They're
two in six. But there's more to it than the
fact that Jamis Winston is throwing us either throwing groundballs
to his wide receivers who aren't fielding it well, or
(01:50):
there's something amiss with his arm. This team has chemistry issues.
This team has had some injuries in the defense which
has caused it to be dysfunctional. This team is a mess.
This team is going to fire their head coach. Then
you go to New York and the juxtaposition with the
l A. Rams, who come in and hung a half
(02:11):
a hunted on the Giants, and the Rams last year
were the laughing stock of the National Football League against
the Giants team which appears to have either quit or
simply be at such an incredible talent disadvantage that they
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were completely incapable of competing with the Rams. That's a
Giants team that was in the playoffs last year. Now
balance that out with the Eagles, balance that out with
the Rams. Balance that out with some of these other teams.
What's InVogue in the NFL is the NFL has become
an offensive league. The rules are set up so that
(02:57):
offensive offensive skill position players can succeed more than fail.
That people like when you score fifty points, far more
so than when you score ten and win. Offense wins.
Defense still wins championship. Offense phill seats, offense wins you
fantasy football. Offense is fun. So what do you think
(03:23):
it is? What? What is? Look? We saw this. It
didn't work with Mark Tressman with the Chicago Bears. He
was their quarterback guru, quarterback whisper uh. He was promoted
to head coach and he could not handle the day
to day responsibilities. And it is not working with Dirk Cutter.
It doesn't appear to be working with Ben McAdoo either.
(03:46):
And yet you look at Doug Peterson, who was not
even a coordinator or a quarterback coach, not calling plays
with the Kansas City Chiefs. You look at Sean McVeigh,
who was, in fact the coordinator, is now calling plays
and is also the head coach of the Rams, and
you say, Doug, you're wrong, You're absolutely wrong. The coordinator
to head coach. It's it's sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't,
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and there's other factors at play. And I would tend
to say there are other factors, like advancing in your
same shop is hard. Everybody says, loyalty is rewarded. You
come up, you start in the mail room, you work
your way up, and someday you son, you could be
(04:27):
a head coach. Someday you in turn could be on air.
Someday you lowest man on the totem pole could be
top of the total pole. It sounds great, but the
truth is, it's the shine box theory, right, That's where
the it's the shine box. It's um. If you've ever
(04:51):
seen good Fellas, there's the famous scene in good Fellas
where Billy Batts is celebrating his birthday, and of course
Joe Pesci's character he is at the bar and Billy
Batts gets back. He just got back out of prison,
all right, and he tells Joe Pesci's character to go
get his shine backs because back in the day, on
(05:12):
his way up, he used to shine everybody's shoes, like
I remember you when you worked in the mail room.
I remember you when you didn't call plays. I remember
you went and you carry that bias as opposed to
the ability to remake yourself elsewhere. The parallel in Tampa
with Dirk Cutter is not that he was in experience.
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Dirk Cutter has been a head coach. I'll be in
college before. It's not that Dirk Cutter's an idiot doesn't
know what he's doing. He's been successful calling plays in
the NFL. It's it's really hard to be the offensive
coordinator and play color of the Tampa Buccaneers and then
being viewed as Okay, now I'm going to be the
head coach. Ben McAdoo was the offensive coordinator play color,
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now he's the head coach. Peterson had to leave Kansas City.
Kyle Shanahan had to leave Atlanta. It's been Sean McVeigh
had to leave DC, even Jake Gruden, even Jay Gruden
who just beat Seattle on the road. Bruton was calling
plays for the Cincinnati Bengals. So it's not that the
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coordinator to head coach doesn't work. It's that it's really
hard from being an assistant to being a head coach
in the same place. And the reason is very very simple.
Right coaches usually do good cop bad cop. You guys
know a good cop, bad cup, you do good cop.
At you do good coup bagative backup, you do good cup.
And coordinators are almost always almost always good cops, right,
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especially offensive coordinator. We don't like the offensive coordinator. They
call it plays right, They draw things up in the dirt,
They spread the football around. The key got the quarterbacks
ear But quarterbacks and offenses and cordinas are seen as
soft and on the defensive side of the ball, that
means challengeable. We can challenge your authority. And when you
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heard Rodney Harrison on Sunday Night Football say, I think
the Giants defense quit. When you hear about the rumblings
within the Tampa Buccaneers locker room and and how dysfunctional
it appears to be, the parallel is very simple. You
bring offensive guys in from a different system. They can
walk our walk in strong armed, because you don't remember
them shining shoes in the shoe box, the shine box.
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Excuse me, but if you are just calling plays three
months ago or fifteen months ago, and you're the offensive guy,
you're soft. You gotta throw passes. You want to talk quarterbacks,
You want nothing to do with defense. You are challenge
a bull. And in a world like the National Football
League where players are remember, Um, you guys remember in
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uh Jurassic Park how they talked about raptors and what
they said about raptors. They remember you. They not just
they don't just remember you. But what are they constantly doing,
John Ramos? They're constantly testing the fences, right, They never
test the same fence, part of fence twice, but they're
constantly testing the fences. That's what dudes are like in
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the NFL. They're constantly testing defenses. And when Ben McAdoo
does nothing to keep Odell Beckham Jr. In line, the
defense is like he's soft, he's a pushcholfer. I mean,
did you hear Ben McAdoo when he was asked about
his halftime speech yesterday keep fighting and keep coaching at halftime? Um,
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that was not there was not doctored. That's actually what
he said. He had either something went completely amiss that
he didn't want to share, or he had nothing to
actually share at halftime. Keep fighting, keep coaching is the
most cliche thing ever. Even if that's what he said,
there's a bunch of dudes in the locker room going like, oh,
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this guy didn't have it. Even if you don't know
what you're doing, you walk into locker room and you
start kicking over trash cans, and then you take a
breath and you say, all right, we gotta plan. Here's
what we're gonna do. But what appears to be blatantly obvious.
Sean Payton was calm plays with the Dallas Cowboys. He
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went to New Orleans, became head coach, but staying in
the same place. When they remember you as the coffee
and the cream and sugar guy. Look at Arrol Watson, right.
Earl Watson was the workout coach. He was behind the
bench with the Phoenix Suns. All the players loved him,
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loved him. Man, this dude, row Watson, he gets it.
He's like my age. He played in the league for
thirteen years. Workout dude gets it. Love him. He becomes
head coach, and all of a sudden they're like, well,
you can't be everybody's friend anymore. Head coach gotta do
bad things. Gotta cut dudes, Gotta call him in and
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rem amount. You gotta monitor defense, offense, special teams, Gotta
get onto your coaching staff. It ain't about just drawing
up cute plays and trying to find mismatches. It's about
managing egos day to day and they will, like the raptors,
test that fence every day to see how much electrical
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charges in it. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three pm Eastern
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. Lance mccullos joins us on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
They had the victory parade. He spent the night with
his bay. Of course, that is the championship trophy which
was in his room in Los Angeles before they flew
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back to Houston. More than anything, he got to start.
He got the call to start Game seven at Dodger
Stadium and he picked up the phone. We called him today, Lance,
how are you hey, guys doing great man for having
me Lance. Okay, so, uh, let's let's just start with
day of Game seven of the World Series, right. It's
all anybody could hope for, anybody could dream of twenty
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years from now when you have people little kids run
around asking you about what that was like, what was
the day leading up to the game? Like, well, I
mean the day before I was, I was ready to
go out of the bullpen, so, um, you know I
was throwing. I was, you know, constantly being ready to
come in for Game six because we were treating Game
six like like a must win game if we have
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the opportunity to win it late. So I was actually
gonna come in and close Game six, and it got
to that point. So I didn't even know I was
actually starting the game until after Game six when when
a J told me. But honestly, I felt I felt
awkwardly calm um a little bit. I was. I was
pretty nervous in the ALCS pre game. When I say nervous,
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I was just pretty anxious to get out there, and
the same thing in game three. But the team had
had a very a very weird calm about it. We
felt very comfortable going into Game seven and new, you know,
if we come and play our best ball, we're probably
probably gonna take on the championship. Okay, so remind me
that you were throwing at Dodger Stadium after Game six.
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You're out there, did a J tell you before that
and that's why you went out there and throw right? Yeah? Exactly,
Because you know I had tossed during the game a
little bit in the pen um, and if I was
going to stand in the bullpen for game seven to
potentially close the game. In the game seven, that's all
I wouldn't need to throw. But you know, I needed
a little bit more work if I was gonna start,
you know, to work on some of my stuff. So
a j called down told me, hey, you're starting game seven.
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So that's why I had to go out to the
field and play catch. I did the same thing in
New York post game three before Game four. But it
was funny because I guess Clayton Kershall had come to
the mound at minimde before he started he was going
to start game game five. Yeah, he did. He he
said out there and he was looking at and he
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was throwing. Somebody said, what you were you were They
thought you were tweaking him. Yeah, someone, I'll have you
on Twitter. You know, people on Twitter light to come
up with these crazy conspiracies. They were saying that I
was going out there to to get back for for
him doing that to us in our field, and I
was trying to make fun of him for doing it,
and I was doing it for the cameras because I
guess the post game show caught me throwing. It was
nothing other than I literally hadn't thrown enough to be
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able to pitch the next day, so I had to
get out there and do my work. Okay, So you
get out there the next day, and you even admitted
as such afterwards that you you didn't have it. Lancepo
Colors joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on a
maout of fact. Here's what you said after the game.
I know I didn't have much to give other than
just trying to gut it out as long as I could.
The team news, you know that I got the short least,
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but everyone's ready to go with the bull friend today
and you saw all of our best guys come out
of there, and you know, I got it out as
long as I could. This is this is crazy, okay. So,
like you're up there and obviously you had the two
nothing lead, they had the airs in the first inning,
and the second inning you had the big you had
the big home run, but you know there's there's there's
runners aboard, and you survived those first two innings with
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without much in terms of your normal stuff. What's that
feeling like of just hoping that it's enough to get by. Well,
I mean, for me, what I meant by that was,
I just I don't think anyone has a whole lot
left to give on November one. I mean, people forget
that we're playing baseball at you know, full game speed.
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Really since the middle of February went when spring training hits,
because as soon as those lives storm or as soon
as those spring training games get going, I mean, you
did whatever you have at that point. Obviously you build
your strength during the season, but come to Thember one,
it's been eight months. You know, guys are dealing with injuries,
Guys are dealing with just being overall exhausted. So um,
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we had all of our guys available. So I know
going into the game that you know, I couldn't read
the rig on the wall. I need to give this
team three or four good innings. And uh, you know,
I didn't have my best stuff. I was able to survive,
able to make big pitches, got the outs when I
needed them. I'm accustomed so you know, sometimes having to
work in and out of trouble. So I was pretty
I was pretty proud that I didn't let the moment
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kind of kind of get too big on me. And
even when I was, you know, kind of hitting guys um.
But hey, I don't think any of those guys that
I ended up by unfortunately hitting Diet much damage the
rest of the game. So maybe uh it worked out
the long run. You brush Justin Turner getting pegged. How
do you how do you keep your composure right? Like?
You go out there, you got a too nothing lead,
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and I mean like Chris Tail starts out with a
double and you get a seecret to strike out. Okay,
but then you hit Justin Turner. Um, you strike out Bellinger,
but that was kind of everybody striking out Bellinger. I mean,
but you hit two guys. How do you not like
freak out? You're up there game seven, you got to
nothing lead and you just hit two dudes in the
first inning, But you didn't freak out? How well, because
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that was my game plan going into the game. I
throw a lot of stinkers um down. I selt a
lot of curve balls down. But the teams Dodges are
very good down hitting team. They struggle with more up
in the zone. So I kind of changed my game
plan going into game seven and to pitch more up
and I'm just not used to it, so some of
those balls are getting awaye for me. But it wasn't
like I wasn't trying. I was trying to execute my plan,
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and I almost I guess you could say I even
executed it too well, as I wasn't getting up an
end just a little bit too much. So for me,
when I saw that happening from the outside looking in,
it's easy to say he has no idea with the
ball is going. But for me, I'm trying to throw
it up in there. You know, I'm just not doing
a good enough job of staying online and really sticking
it up in there. Um, I felt fine, I knew that,
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you know, lead off double, no big deal. I got
I got secured a punch, then Turner. I hit Turner,
and now I'm saying in my head, hey, don't play
one pitch two outs. And then once I got Bell
and dra out, I'm saying, all you gotta do is
get one out here, even after I hit Pleaks. So
I kind of try to keep it, keep it one
one out of the time, one pitch at a time.
And I think that's how you don't let you know
moments you know kind of get get on you too much.
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I see a big silver lining guy, right, You're like, oh,
I hit him, but at least now double players back
in and you're just the same. If you look at it,
you're saying, my goodness, I'm facing the hottest hitter, you know,
Peterson with the bases loaded the first inning, Oh my
goship deal to lead then before you know, you're gonna
give a grand slam. Uh. So for me, it's just about, hey,
make your pitches when you have to, get big outs
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when you have to. And uh, you know I came
out of the game. No runs came across um when
I was out there or of mine and the guys
came behind me did a great job, like I said,
So it was a full team effort in that game seven. Uh,
George Springer was the m v P. And he goes
from I mean he was he really struggled against the
Yankees to being just a complete after game one he
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was completely and thoroughly dominant, right like he just how
does that? How does that happen? And please don't go well,
that's just baseball. It's more than just no, it's not
just baseball. Yeah, so how's that happened. It happens because
you know, George's George has been one of our guys
all year, and everyone has confidence in him, and he
knows that regardless of the outcomes, because he's put himself
in a position where he is, you know, held held
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high in the eyes of all of us here with
with the Astros. He knows he's going to be back
out there. So his confidence wasn't down as far as
it AM not going to be the lineup? Am I
not going to be in the lineup. He may have
been more frustrated because you know, he wasn't he wasn't producing,
But you had to remember this guy hit two eighty
plus and thirty plus Homer's first half All Star. I mean,
he's not really short on confidence. So he was just
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going to a little slump, and he really started swinging
out better pitches, honestly, and you can ask him. He
started kind of tighten his own up a little bit,
started letting pitches come to him. You know, I think
I'm not really a hitter. I did have an RBI
in Game seven, but I'm not really a hitter. So, uh,
you know, I think I'm really happy for him because
he really showed the world what he's about. Lance but
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colors joining us on the Doug got Lip Show. Did
did you and your wife get invited to the Berlin
the wedding? No? No I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
know j V until he just got traded over here. Um.
But he couldn't do the last he couldn't do the
last minute in the minute invite, Like, look, I know,
but I'm getting married my wife. My wife and I
got married almost two years ago now, and the invite list,
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the wedding list, who we were inviting, who we weren't inviting, Um,
was the probably the most stressful momentum of our lives,
way way worse than having to pitch in the game seven.
So I would never have expected him to give a
late minute invite or anyone else. I know, it's getting married.
You don't have room. Hey, no skin off your back.
You can leave me off. I'm not I'm not gonna
be offended. You're gonna get him anything? Uh No, probably not? Okay,
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I mean, what do you get the guy who has everything?
What was your what was your first song that you
guys danced to? That's actually a very big that's as
big a decision as who gets invited and who doesn't.
Because you're like, oh, this is our song, She's like, no,
we're not play and baby got back that is not
Our first song was a was a violin remix by
Lindsay Sterling of of John Legends all of Me. So uh,
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it was it was, It's it's pretty. It's actually a
pretty pretty cool remix. I think Wendy Sterling is a
super super talented UM artists, so it was pretty cool
to be able to use that. A couple of days ago,
you guys did something the local Humane Society right for
try and rescue dogs. You guys didn't rescue another dog yourself,
did you? No, No, we have to ourselves already. Um
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we we actually we have adopted three total, but the
third one, um is my brothers now because our she
was a female and our other female that we've had
for a while didn't take towards too much. Um. But no,
we we had a big adoption event. You know, a
lot of animals got adopted, some good money was raised.
It's pretty cool to see the city support not only
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us on the field, but a lot of guys have
some off field endeavors that are close to our hearts
and we appreciate how they support us there too. Okay, So, um,
I saw the tweet when you had the championship trophy
in your room. Um, as a guy who's the son
of a former major league or to have that, uh,
that have that reality moment of holy cow, we we
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just did it, um, And I was on the mound
to start game seven, Like, what what is that moment
like where you realize kind of like your life, his life,
all the intersections and you finally reach the top of
that mountain. Well, it's kind of crazy, man. I mean
people will always ask you how to feel, you know,
be a world champion has to steal it. It's hard
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to put in a word. You just feel vindicated almost
like all the hard work. You know, obvious feel that
way when you get to the big leagues. But when
you get here, you have you have aspirations to wor
world championship and uh, you're coming into the season, was
there was there was a lot of pressure on us.
I don't even want to call it pressure obviously, expectations
on the team to you know, be a very good
team and to achieve a lot and so to be
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able to do that, and you know, bring the city
of championship and which season is starving for one for
a long time, and especially everything everyone's had to go through, UM,
and the way we did it, I think I think
it was just it's just a big sigh relief and
a lot of a lot of hard work that's come
to fruition. And it was cool. After we got back
from the game, I stole the trophy out of the
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locker room and brought it down into the lobby with
all the Astros fans that were, UM kind of hold
up in the lobby and my my family was down there.
They all got to see it and take pictures with it. UM.
So it's been a long ride for a lot of us,
and uh, some a lot more than others. But it
was just a cool moment for everyone to experience. All Right.
The thing I got to criticize you for is all
the curveballs you've been throwing. I have. I have an
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eight year old. We've watched all of your games and
he's like, Dad, I see you have to throw a curveball. Look,
he throws a curveball. Alright. So for the young burgeoning
pictures out there talking to somebody who has the most
dynamic curveball in the playoffs this year? When do you
start throwing it? I started throwing my breaking ball when
I were a six team. Actually, um, I didn't. I
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didn't really pitch that much growing up. Um. After my
freshman year at my high school in Tampa, actually committed
to the University of Florida as a position player, and
I started pitching more my sophomore junior season. I learned
my curveball after my sophomore sing during my sophomore summer,
So going into my junior year is when I learned
when I learned to throw the curveball. But the big
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thing for people asking all the time when you start throwing,
I think the biggest thing is, if you're listening out there,
don't don't manipulate your wrists to make the ball, make
the ball move. Don't don't do something to get results
that you know it's abnormal for your arms. Find a
grip that works for you and works for your arm motion,
so that makes the ball move move more naturally. Uh,
and you you should be just fine. So so like
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if you do a C grip, for example, you know
the old overhand curve that we're we're all taught like
in in Mustang or in Pony. Right, it's the idea
that your your arm kind of naturally turns over more
so than just kind of trying to twist your wrist,
because that puts the strain on your elbow. Because when
you come through and you finish it, no matter what
pitchs you throw your arm half to prote That's what
kind of help helps protect your elbow, protect your shoulder,
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and helps your arms slow down. So when you're coming
through and you're about to release that ball, if you
have your you know, your wrist locked or your hand
you know, really kind of spun around the baseball when
you throw that pitch, you're not allowing your arm to
do its natural pro nation. Post throw is when you're
gonna you're gonna run into injuries, serious injuries. You know,
I've been I've had a lot of nagging things that
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you know, I have to put me on the d
L here and there, um, But thankfully I have no major,
major injuries. But yeah, don't don't manipulate the ball to
do something that your body, you know, isn't willing to
make it do. All right, man, Well, listen, you you
stared down Aaron Judge in one, and you stare down
the Dodgers in one. Uh. The Houston Nastals are World
Series champions and you're a huge reason why. Enjoy the
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victory lap and thanks so much for joining us. Hey, guys,
thank you. That's Lance mccollos Jr. Joining us. Fox Sports
Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot
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the Romo versus Dion first because it's great sound and
part of sports radio one on one kids is you
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have great sound. He got to play it as often
as possible. Tony Romo was calling his first Cowboys game
yesterday as a member of CBS's lead broadcasting crew. He
got a rousing ovation and a welcome back video. Romo
beloved member of the Cowboy community still even though he
lost his job to injury, which the stupidest thing we
(25:26):
say every year is you never lose your job to injury. Yeah,
Tony Romo just did so. Uh. At some point during
the game, I believe he was discussing Marcus Peters, who
is a very good player and maybe an over overly
discussed player, but he had this to say during the game.
He's really good out there at the corner off coverage,
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but in tackling, and he makes de Sanders look good
at tackling sometimes, right, so he makes Deon set Now, look,
anybody who was alive to through the Dion Sanders era,
if you will, knew he was a spectacular kick and
punt returner. Um. I don't think there's any question. He's
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regarded as the best cover, lockdown corner in the history
of the National Football League. He had speed, uh, he
could read a quarterback. He seemed to be able to
read his wide receivers. He was generally a menace. He
retired a couple of times, came out of retirement to
play with the Ravens and still had incredible speed and gifts.
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But he was also a guy that stayed way the
hell away from actual contact. That wasn't his thing, that
wasn't his game. And pros always tell you played your strengths,
not your weaknesses. So it was kind of funny. Cowboy
on Cowboy. Hey, he makes Deon Sanders look like a
good tackler. Funny, here's Dion on NFL network. I tried
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my best to take the high roll. I don't know
the address to the high row. So I got to
come at you. Man. Ten years as a start of
your two and four in the playoffs, you a won nothing.
I tried to bury the hatchet. Both of us worked
for CBS. I went and shook your hand and say, Tony,
you're doing a great job this year. I thought that
would be would never less you keep on showing at me, Tony,
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what's going on? Man? I got a gold jacket that
I didn't buy. Dax says Hi and by Tony, leave
me alone, man, I got a lot of ammunition. Man,
I'm in any deception. I'm an interception nineteen twelve. Come on, man,
you throw to everybody but me, Tony. Come on, man,
you know you never won the big one. You know
you never won the big one, So stop man, leave
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me alone. I tried to take the high roll, but
I don't know that what an a hole? Deon Sanders
is an a hole. I worked for CBS. Nobody was
fired up about Dion Sanders coming back to work for CBS. Okay,
it was because the NFL network and CBS made a deal,
and he's the NFL networks guy. I know we have.
By the way, Dion is very good on TV, and
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that's very very funny. If if Tony would have come
at him personally and come at him and like, that
would have been But simply saying it's alluding to Marcus
Peters being such a poor tackler that he makes Dion
Sanders look good, does not in any way open the
door to you. Got like playoff record, dad taking your job?
What an a hole? What a complete hall of fame
(28:18):
a whole like did like he's went totally personal in
terms of your career, like well, he didn't talk about
his wife, no, did. He went personal. He went on
all the different triggers of Cowboy fans. He acted like, look,
I've been holding this back. I don't you know, I've
been holding this back and haven't let on letting on
Tony Romo for a long time. I never really liked him,
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but only because he works for CBS. I chose to
keep my key and he played for the Cowboys. Keep
my mouth shut, but now I'm not going to what
a jerk who does that? And Chris Rose laughing it
was funny unless you're Tony Romo, Like Romo was not
(29:01):
out there was, there was. I don't think anybody could
listen to Romo and think it was mean spirited. And
it doesn't mean that Dion is wrong for what he said.
He did have a bad playoff record, he did throw
nineteen interceptions. This is this is all true, all all true.
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But what are you doing, Deon? Like is it okay
for Romo now to go and talk about the craziness
with you and your wife and her calling the cops
and that that kind of stuff, or the fact that
because des Briant had dinner with you and your agent,
he got and he lied about it, he got kicked
off the team in Oklahoma State? Like, how personal can
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we go now that you've gone personal? A Tony Romo?
What a jerk? And again this is me saying, like
Deon Sanders is, without any question, in my lifetime, the
best cover owner. And I actually think he's really good
on TV. I don't think he's great with the interview
stuff because it's all about him and whatever. He's brilliant
in regards to his ability to really really a point
(30:12):
on football. He is incredibly well respected. You ask any
of these guys who are cornerbacks and you're like, who's
the goat. They'll all say Dion Sanders. None will say otherwise,
but like what a jerk. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
(30:33):
pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Some people are just not good
at firing up other people. Some people are just not
good at at at public speaking. Like tomorrow, I'm gonna
do the show from Stillwater, Oklahoma. Now I'm doing Don't
Laugh the School of Business. They have a conference on ethics,
(30:55):
so I'm talking about business ethics. I have no idea
what talk about. No, I'm not like Ramos is laughing.
I really don't know. Like I've been trying to. I
usually work it out in my head, jotted down a
couple of notes, right, But when the red light goes
on or somebody says, go, I know about how long
(31:17):
to talk about? How to do it? Tell him a joke, um,
and I'll figure it out. But not everybody is good
at this, and it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. I
think not just not everybody's good at press conferences and analogies,
like here's Cam Newton trying to analogize his team continuing
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to push ahead even though they trade away Calvin Benjamin.
You know, yeah, we just lost a great player, but nevertheless,
you know, the Titanics do. It has to go? Um um,
the Titanic sunk. Cam, I don't know how like, are
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you trying to tell me that Kelvin Benjamin was an
Iceberg dead ahead and no one realized the damage done
by the by the tear in the hull left behind
from Kelvin Benjamin being traded away. You know, yeah, we
just lost a great player, but nevertheless, you know, the
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Titanics do. That has to go. Yeah. I don't even
think that's close to the parallel you want to make. Yeah,
I know I'm gonna go out and live here and
say that. Cam does not realize the Titanic sunk, nor
has he ever seen the movie Titanic. There's no way
Iceberg dead ahead. I know how the world works, but listen,
(32:54):
he doesn't have to be good at analogies. Doesn't just
don't make tim We'll make them. It's like not funny
guy trying to crack a joke. Hey, look, Jamis Winston
got all that credit for um. Remember when he went
back to Florida State's game to start the year. Go
back to last year. So y'all, y'all some puppies, y'all
(33:16):
playing like puppies. We some dogs. Remember that we some dogs.
And because that was so well received. Because it was
so well received, he chose to give another impassioned pregame
speech that was caught on camera by our Fox TV crew.
I wonder about look at me. It's the corn up
I say one day. Not That's how if you want
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to is he can cussed? He can't go CT because
he's like in his third year in the NFL, like
if your post career, like, man, I'm sorry, I got
I got a little CT setting in right or I
was concussed. That was before the game, before you men
lay a hand on him. That was the That was
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a blue Tarski. That was the blue do coming in
saying was it over? When the Germans bu bomb bro Harbor,
he's not a roll. Oh yeah. By the way, they
also got blown out by the New Orleans Saints. Some
people aren't good at pregame speeches. Some guys aren't good
at the podium thing. What really matters is are you
good on third down? And good in the red zone.
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Let's welcome in. Brian Baldinger does a great job over
the NFL networking. He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
It's not Is it crazy for those of us who
didn't play, warn't experts to say, Hey, I watched Kaepernick
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and I know not all athletic quarterbacks are the same,
but it does have some experience. He did run kind
of a creative offense in college or some creativity at
times in San Francisco. Is it crazy to think he
could be the best possible option out there for the Texans.
That's not crazy to think of that right now, Doug. Uh,
you know, Shawn Watson was on a pace that we've
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never seen before. Um, seventeen touchdown passes in his time
in the offense that he was running. Isn't the offense
that they prepared for and ran in the spring of
the summer. I mean it was catering to Deshaun Watson.
It was changing weekly and um, you know, his ability
to see the field to extend plays. All that stuff was,
(35:23):
you know, it was phenomenal, was great to watch, great,
great theater. That game in Seattle was as good a
game as we played in the NFL this year. Uh,
and that offense continued to expand because of the abilities
that Deshaun Watson kept displaying. Is it ridiculous to think
that Colin Kaepernick could do some of those things? No,
it's not ridiculous to think that at all. But they
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haven't picked up the phone. And then so to this point,
it's Tom Savage, it's mcgloyd, it's t J. Yates, It's
guys who are either familiar with O'Brien or familiar with Houston,
which is kind of part are kind of normal for
the course in the NFL, normal for the course really
in any business, right, you hire the guys that you
know how you connect the dots, Doug, you always connect
the dots. I mean you Age took him to who
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was in a playoff game with them? And Savage, you know,
was in the playoffs last year and started the season
this year. You go, it's what you kind of know.
All that stuff is true, and it's fair. Now, Look,
I know people in this league that don't think Colin
Kaepernick is very good and he's wouldn't be a great
backup if he had to go into Houston and be
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a great backup where he's got to help the starter
until he becomes a chance to become a starter. I mean,
I know guys that believe that. I believe he's not
ever going to be accurate enough to be a real
good player in this league. That's just coming from people
that have coached him and played with them. That doesn't
mean that he can't add a spark to the Houston
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Texas right now, a team that looks like they desperately
need one tender. Agree with you, Doug Show, But well,
well we shall. We shall see what they do. Um
What happened to Kansas City? I know they've had some injuries,
um on on both sides of the football. I mean,
I think the Eric Barry injury is still one that
will always hurt you because he's arguably the best of
his position in the sport. But I watched them against
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the Cowboys. Cowboys get Sean Lee back, to get David
Irving back, and they appear to be improving as opposed
to Kansas City seems to be leveling off, losing three
over their last four. What's happened to Kansas City. Well,
let's see, there's a lot of things that have gone on.
I mean, what is Alice is is a totally different
team defensively, when Shawn Lee's in the game, I mean,
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he's just one of those guys that gets everybody lined up.
You don't block him. He'll make every play in the
run game. I mean, he's just a computer out there
and he gets to the football. There are better defense
when he's on the field. They're a good offense. They're
a really good offense, and that's a tough team to defend.
And Dak Prescott, you know, made a lot of really
good throws yesterday. Dens Bryant got involved, Called Beasley got
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in the end zone for a couple of times. They're
tough to stop. Kansas City has been beat up up front.
They still have not played with Laurent duven A tardif
they were out with they were out with the center
Mitch Moore for a long time. He's back now, he's
getting back into shape. They're not getting the big plays
that they were getting earlier. They're not getting Kareem Hunt,
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who was on pace for well over two thousand total yards.
They're not getting him loose the way they once were.
I thought they ran into a pretty good football team
on a short week yesterday afternoon, and I think that
was part of it. Brian Baldinger joining us on the
Doug Gotlip Show here on the Fox Sports Radio. Kim
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Newton had a much better game than he had had
previously with Kelvin Benjamin, but they did so using him
as their lead running back. How much longevity does that have?
I mean, like, look, we've seen so many athletic quarterbacks
get hit, get beat up. I know he was sliding
and he's sliding well before contact, but I'm just I'm
just wondering if you can do that for the entirety
of an NFL season, I don't know. I mean, he's
(39:00):
been beat up before. He was one to and that's
scoring ten touchdowns two years ago and the m v
P of the league. Um, if you try to protect
Cam Newton from getting hit, from getting injured, I just
think you're wasting your time. I Mean, part of what
makes him so unique is his size and his running
a building. He's an excellent runner, He's hard to tackle.
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He wears defensive down. If you're gonna just keep throwing
screens and checkdowns to Christian McCaffrey and game six yards,
you're you're not going to get the chunks you need.
You're not going to get the third down conversions you
need either. They're a more difficult offense to defend when
Cam Newton is a viable runner. Now will that will
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that catch up to him? It might, but I don't
think that they're going to get to the playoffs unless
they act and use Cam Newton in the running game.
Right now, I don't think they're gonna come out of
the NFC Salt with New Orleans out there right now.
I know at Lantas you're truggling, but I don't believe
they'll come out of winning that division lest Cam dot
is a big part of that offense, and that is
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being a runner as well as what he does. Thrown
help me out with with what's happened to Dirk Cutter
and if there's any similarities and what's happening to Ben McAdoo,
and look, I started the show ball he's talking about.
Look some of the a lot of these coaches now
were the quarterback whispers offensive coordinators from from Jay Gruten
uh even Doug Peterson. I know he wasn't calling plays
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in Kansas City, but and he was in large part
to help fix their quarterback situation. That has worked. But
the ones that have worked have been guys that have
gone other places as opposed to Cutter going from the
quarterback guru to being the head coach. Ben McAdoo kind
of the exact same thing. Is it about changing locations
so that people don't don't liken you to the same
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guy who was the coordinator now being the head coach,
or is it about the personnel that's really brought down
the Buccaneers brought down the Giants. I'm I'm sorry by
both teams. I really am. Doug. I saw I saw
Tampa in the preseason, and I saw all the new additions,
I saw the attitude, I saw the coach, and I
saw it all and I I'm shocked. I mean, I
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was shocked away. I was shocked by Caroline is down
called a year ago. All the tools are there, Jamee's
is not making the same place that he made a
year ago, and they're turning the ball over too much.
I saw him up in Buffalo with a chance to
win the game two weeks ago, and they made you know,
they fumbled late in the fourth quarter with the chance
to go win the game. They're making the plays that
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are costing them games right now. And the offense has
never gotten into gear. It's never clicked this season, and
I don't know, like it's still you know, still got
half the season to go. But sometimes you find it.
They found it last year the middle of the season,
they won five in a row. They made a run
to the playoffs. They lost to Dallas and they kind
of got bounced out, but they looked like a team
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that was on the rise. But last year has nothing
to do with this year. They just haven't clicked yet.
Sean Jackson, Michael Evans, O, j Howard, all the pieces
they brought there to really surround themselves with Jane's and
give him the best possible weapons you could get. It
hasn't clicked. Is that Dirk Cutter means the same offenses
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last year. They're just not making the place this year. Um,
New Orleans started out oh and two and I left
him for dead. I just did you know the defense?
You know why you did? Though? Do you know why
you left him for dead because of what they've done
the last three or four years. You're like, it's the
same old Saints, no defense, that's I mean, and that's
that You're not wrong. You're not wrong at all by
(42:38):
saying that after two games. But what happened totally different defense.
It's a totally different defense. Marshall and Lottimore. He is
such a spark right now, Doug. He is the best
corner I've seen him coming in this league since Darrell
read this period. You can give him a third of
the field, a half of the field. It's not just
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quarterback play. He is football smart. He understands how you attack.
He knows when the layoff. He's a tackler. Now you
add Sheldon Rankings and Cam Jordan's right, he had something
on Yachta, and you add you know, von Bell, and
you know you look at Kenny Ricaro. They looked like
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he had him on a trading block five weeks ago.
He's a valuable play defensively right now. They've sparked this turnaround.
I know that the Broncos winning the Philadelphia and the
and the Eagles have a tremendous front seven. The Broncos
offensive line is not good that's not good. Um, But
I mean, how can John Elway strike out on so
many quarterbacks? Right? Like Packeon Lynch isn't healthy. But there's
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a reason that they didn't hand the hand the ball
to Packion Lynch to start the season. How can the
Broncos swing and miss on so many quarterbacks. I'll tell
you this to Doug. I did that game for National
Radio today and I was talking to a high ranking
Eagle personnel person and quote unquote, he said this about
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brock oss wilet. He stinks and he did yesterday because
his job yesterday was to manage the game defensively. They
were hoping to be able to stay in the game
and have Brock cos while I handed off to a
pretty good rushing attack, you know, and not turn the
ball over. And in the first quarter he turns turns
the ball over a terrible throw, and the Eagles took
(44:24):
it and scored, and you know, and they just kept
piling on. He had two terrible throws for interceptions, probably
should have another one pick he's and the Eagles Jim
Schwartz knows that at six ft eight, he's a long
stride or he doesn't throw off his back foot you know,
he has to step into his throws, and if you
bring pressure right into his face, I mean he's done.
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And that's what they did. They ran the pressure. They
put Fletcher Cox in the center, they put line packers
of the eight gaps. They came right out of him.
If he can't step into his throws, he's not effective,
and he wasn't effective yesterday. And how John Hellwie keeps
striking out on this. I no, No, it seemed like
Tony Romo was available and they didn't want any part. Now.
I like what Tony is doing in the booth right now, Doug.
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But if you had asked Tony Romo back in March
you want to go quarterback the Denver Broncos and you
have a range just the way Peyton Manning did, it
looked like there's a lot of pieces in place there
and they decided not to do it. So you know,
I mean that's John is a smart man, but not
making good decisions at that position right now. Last last thing,
rams Hang fifty one on the Giants. We talked about
(45:29):
what a disaster the Giants are for just a little
bit um, but it sure feels like every piece that
they've added has has worked for the Rams, and like look,
by has come at the right time and they're really
one Cooper Cup catch away from being UH seven and
one on the season. What's your reaction to the rams
complete turnaround? Well, I mean it's the you know, the
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biggest addition to that entire organization. Sean McVeigh, I mean,
he's just look. John Gruden was a thirty two year
old head coach and John Madden was a thirty two
year old head coach, and Sean McVeigh is of the
same hilt. He is that guy. He's a difference maker.
His design of offense is with the precision of a
diamond cutter, and it is beautiful to watch. And Jared
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Goff is a completely different quarterback and the offense makes sense.
He changed the offense after the second week of the
season when he realized that Todd Gurley was not gonna
be a shotgun spread offense running back. You had to
put him seven and a half eight yards for Jared
Goff under center. He changed that. He fixed that, He
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got Todd Gurley, fixed play action passes off it, he
fixed his quarterback. He's taken cast away from Buffalo and
Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins, and these guys are bona
fide players and Cooper Cup was the missing piece to
work the middle of the field. Gerald Everett is a
big time deep threat and he could do a lot
of other things. They added the left tackle, They fixed
(46:58):
the offense on McVeigh. If you don't want to give
a Coach of the Year, Doug Peterson right now to
get but those two guys right now have fixed these teams.
You can hear about Nashal Radio and Westwood One. Of course,
he played eleven seasons in the National Football League. He's
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he posts videos and gives you breakdowns unlike anybody other.
(47:19):
Just hashtag Baldy breakdown. Brian great stuff. Thanks so much
for join us and giving us your incredible insight. Be
sure to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Look, there's
been a lot of discussions about the Giants and what's
wrong with them, and and and Jerry Reese, their general manager,
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should not avoid should not avoid um uh the criticism
because though Odell Beckham Jr. Got hurt, And though Odell
Beckham Jr. Is a polarizing figure, Odell Beckham Junior is
not responsible for how many other putrid draft choices they
have made over the past couple of years and their
inability to fix the offensive line. They fix the defense.
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Going back to last year and this this past offseason,
they tried to fix the offensive line. They could not
do it, did not do it. It's just not better.
It's just not good enough. What's fascinating to me, faster
to me, though, is how some will defend oh b
J And say, like, look, he's got nothing to do
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with their downfall. It's not his fault that he got hurt.
But if you don't think that he's a divisive force,
look at how uh I mean look his desire to
be a megastar, his desire to push the envelope as
to celebrations and flamboyance and getting into two wrestling matches
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and fights with other players and and arguing on the sidelink.
Those those things, Those things bring attention to your club,
and those things cause ahead coach should have to decide,
like do I punish my best player or do I
stand by him, in support him and talk to him
behind closed doors. But the problem is that you are
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a reflection every team, every coach. We'll tell you this,
this inarguable fact, your reflection of your best player, your
most talented player. You are a reflection of them, a
reflection of them. And when Odell Beckham Jr. Is a megastar,
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and yet he scores a touchdown and he peas on
the ball when he constantly needs attention, when he constantly
needs affection, his desire is he really gets it out there.
He wants the biggest contract in the history of the
sport instead of Look, the proper way to do it is, Hey,
you know what, I just keep playing football. Everything's gonna
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take care of yourself. That's what Aaron Rodgers did. You
don't think Aaron Rodgers wants the biggest contract in the
history of the sport. Of course he does. You don't
think he deserves it. Of course he does, more so
than LBJ. But what did he say, Hey, I just
keep playing. That stuff always takes care of itself. And
it's true with Odell Beckham Jr. But instead you put
it out there, you leak it out there. That stuff
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doesn't get out there unless you want it out there.
By the way, becomes more of a polarizing figure. Polarizing figure,
and that's not good when you're the wide receiver. Wide
receivers are always allowed a little bit more space and
trash talking a little mill more space in flamboyance. But
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there does come place when flamboyance becomes annoyance. And that's
what he got to before he got hurt, in spite
of his immense talents. And he's a crazy town
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