November 15, 2017 • 38 mins
There's always a story behind the story and Doug explains the story behind Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor getting benched. Doug reacts to the breaking news that Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott is dropping his appeal and will serve his 6 game suspension. And Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network joins the show to discuss what is expected from new Bills quarterback Nathan Peterman and whether the Steelers are actually good.
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This is the best of the Don got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, coming to you live and direct from
the City of Angels. Seventies Sixers are in town. Who
would have thought? People are fired up about the Sixers
and the Lakers tonight at Staples. Everyone in l a
matter of fact, everyone nationally talking about u c l A,
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the u c l A three, who have yet to
pee a drop in a u c l A uniform.
But President Trump bringing back bringing back the hostages. That's
what he's being champion like. He brought back the Iran
Iran hostages from the nineteen eighties. But we're gonna talk
about it. It is fascinating. What do you do if
you're Steve Alford, if you're Dan Garrel, Steve Alford coach
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u c l A, Dan Garo, athletic director at u
c l A, what do you do? Um. We'll get
to all of that, but I want to start with
uh interesting story coming out of Buffalo, Buffalo. The Buffalo
Bills spelled with four els to those of us who
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remember history, Yes they got the four straight Super Bowls.
Yes they took els in all four of those Super Bowls,
and they have the longest consecutive streak of not making
the playoffs currently in the NFL. Even the Browns have
made the playoffs more recently than the Bills. M hm. So,
let's check in with Sean McDermott. Okay, this was after
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the game on let me see after the game on Sunday,
he said, uh, in kind of Lovey Smiro when Lovey
Smith was the head coach of the Chicago Bears. He's
like Race gross from my quarterback. Over that they get
to the Super Bowl and there're still questions about whether
or not Rex Grossman should be the quarterback. Well over
the the after the game and up until today today
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is Wednesday, right, So first, the first couple of days
after the game in which they were blasted by the
New Orleans Saints, Sean McDermott had his quarterback, Tyrod Taylor's back.
Tyrod Taylor's my quarterback, doesn't turn the football over. He's
a leader. Um, let's check in with Sean McDermott. Asked
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to who the starting quarterback of the Bills is. This
is about becoming a better team, and Tyrod has made improvements.
He has made a significant contribution to our team, and
I remain confident in Tyrod moving forward. Um, this is
not an indictment on Tyrod. And he's an important part
of our football team and will continue to be an
important member of our football team moving forward. Do you
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know what Tyrod is not? He is not the starting
quarterback this weekend of the Buffalo Bills. Right, this is
the man. This I do believe Sean McDermott did the
it's not you, It's me on National TV. This is
not an indictment on Tyrod Taylor. I still believe in
Tyrod Taylor. Thy Rod Taylor is still very important as
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a leader of this team. Is tyright Taylor starting quarterback? No?
He is not. You are beautiful, you are wonderful, you
are incredible. I still believe that you are the right
person for me. Are we still together? No? We are not.
And like straight face doing it, it was kind of
remarkably like wait, what what what? What? What just happened?
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What in the heck just happened? Um, look, let's get
to the story behind the story. We talked about this
all the time. You have to have a rabbi in
the room, somebody who believes in you. Somebody who was
there the day you were drafted or the day you
were acquired or if you are to be acquired for
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a free agent on the market, somebody who believes in you,
saw you achieve, helped you achieve some great success. That's
where you should go because they they've seen you perform
in the NFL, in the NBA, in Major League Baseball.
And remember Sean McDermott, and for the most part, he
is the president, general manager, and everything to this organization.
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The general manager. He brought with him from Carolina, Carolina
Panthers where he came from. That's who drafted Nathan Peterman,
who's a fifth round pick. By the way, love his
dad's catalog. Love his dad's calm. Not sure about the
urban sombrero, but other than that, love his dad's catalog.
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So Nathan Peterman, who none of us have ever heard of,
is the starting quarterback. By the way, um, Kellen Clemens
may well be the starting quarterback for the San Diego
Chargers the loan four o'clock game on Fox or l
A Chargers. Sorry, that's because Philip Rivers is coming out
of the concussion protocol. So what really happened. Well, there's
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a couple of things. You have to know who Sean
McDermott is. Right. He came up in the Andy Reid
school of coaching. He was he was underneath one of
the great defensive coordinators in the history of the NFL.
Jim Johnson was the legendary long time defensive coordinator. He
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was the architect behind those Eagles defenses that took Andy
Reid's team to what was it, five NFC Championship games
and one Super Bowl with Donovan mcmcnabb. Right, But the
defense was a huge part of their success. Jim Johnson
got sick, Jim Johnson died, Sean McDermott took over. It
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was a disaster. He goes to Carolina, becomes defensive coordinator,
and two years ago he was the architect of the
best defense in the NFL. They had only one loss
in the regular season. The second loss was in the
Super Bowl. And I will grant it, I would rancho
that the whole thing worked together. You had a great defense,
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you had a great running game. Cam Newton had his
best season, and they played a soft schedule. Whatever it was,
they got to a Super Bowl. Now, last year, the
defense fell off when Josh Dorman left as a free agent,
they changed the defensive backfield. McDermott was still the defensive coordinator.
Mcderman has since left. Now he's the brains behind the
Bills operations, which everybody thought they were gonna be tanking
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this year when they started trading way pieces acquired by
the previous regime Doug Whaley's regime, Rex Ryan's coaching staff.
And yet they were actually better than expected to start
the year. And so maybe they're not tanking. A couple
of things that are interesting. Carolina's defense is much better
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this year, McDermott is not. There is there a correlation.
Maybe it's personnel not scheme. Uh. Secondly, the Buffalo Bills,
and this is really important, they allowed two hundred and
nine eight yards rushing to the New Orleans Saints, prompting
all of us who pay attention to go, wait, did
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Tyrod Taylor not tackle well enough as quarterback? Is that
why he got pulled? How much of this is reaction
to Tyrod Taylor, who, in a local newspaper interview complained
about the fact that because he's a black quarterback, people
talk about him like he's a running quarterback, like Tyrod
Taylor is the only quarterback, only person on earth who
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doesn't understand he's an athletic running quarterback. Whether he's black,
whether he's white, with he's mixed race, whether he's Hispanic,
it doesn't matter. Tyrod Taylor runs it really, really well.
He's undersized, thus he's good out of the pocket. But
let's be honest, Tyrod Taylor has not been good. What's
crazy is they make a change now, which brings a
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couple of possibilities to mind. The first is, it's a
great deceptive tach decep to tactic, right, don't pay attention
to how bad my defense has been and the fact
that we dumped Marcel Darius in order to get a
draft pick. Instead, pay attention to the problems on offense.
The second is, and this is probably likely, you got
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a guy in Peterman who you drafted, you believed in,
and whatever you heard from Tyrod Taylor in the meeting
rooms in terms of leadership and buying wasn't what you
were looking for. You want Tyrod Taylor, whether it was
his fault or not his fault, to act like what
went wrong was his fault, because that's what a quarterback
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does and you didn't hear it, and that's why the
move is made. And maybe the last possible possible explanation
for this is the Bills are really bad at tanking.
It's possible like we thought we wanted to tank, then
we won a couple of games, and then we decided
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we wanted to tank. Anyway, Look, Tyrod Taylor as the
second low as completion percentage into tight windows. He's an
athletic quarterback with an erratic arm who's undersized, and his
contract is was terrible last year to get out of
and this year it's eight million dollars of dead money
and they may want to walk away from it. But
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if you're Sean McDermott and this is your first head
coaching job, and oh yeah, by the way, you're also
basically the president of operations and the GM, well you
better really really know the temperature of your locker room
if you're going to make a change in this fashion.
It's not that they changed quarterbacks. It's that they said
they weren't going to change quarterbacks on Sunday, on Monday,
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and on Tuesday and on Wednesday. They didn't just say
they're gonna change quarterbacks. He had the hutzpah. You don't
know what hits biss Definitely audacity, nerve. They had the
balls to go, Hey, we love Tyrod Taylor. Tyrod Taylor's
a leader. Tyrod Taylor is s important. It's Tyrod Taylors
starting quarterback. No, he's not. That takes hutzpah, yiddish, It
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takes nerve, it takes bulls. If you're gonna do that,
you better know the locker room is gonna react positively.
Otherwise dudes are gonna shut down like Man and Sean McDermott.
He's he is playing for next year, or he is
playing only his guys are his guys, and Peterman's his
guy and Tyrod is not his guy. But what a
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crazy situation from Buffalo, who, by the way, is five
and four. I don't know how they're five and four,
but we talked about this yesterday. I don't know how
the Saints or seven and two, or how the Titans
are six and three, or the Steelers, who haven't even
played that well this year are seven and two this year.
It doesn't make any sense. Be sure to catch live
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the I Heart Radio app and Hill Cody Riley, who
are actually really good basketball players. Jello Ball is not,
but he's one of the members of the Ball family.
He is. What Kardashian would he be like if um Courtney, uh,
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well kicked by because Courtney is fat and he's fat. No,
Courtney is not fat. Courtney was fat. What didn't she know?
Which was the one that was that was with Lamar?
That was um Chloe? Yes, yeah, okay, so Chloe is okay,
but boy way, I'm just I'm just saying, so why
Courtney and not not Chloe. I I don't watch the
Kardashians enough. I do know. I do know which because
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because she's Courtney is the oldest one, so he's not
the oldest. Courtney was the one that was was married
to Scott correct, that's correct. Well they never were married.
They weren't married. No, they never got She wanted to
get married and he he did not. They were never married.
No three children, no marriage. That's wrong. Another wrong that
I know. I know a couple people like that that
they don't want to lose after stuff. I got you
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where do I sign up to lose half my stuff?
Oh here all the marriage? Yeah, no, no problem. Um, okay,
So which kardash you would Jello B. Jello is the
least talented. Jello though looks the most like his dad,
Like he's built the most like his dad. And when
I say least talent, to keep in mind his brother's
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a second pick of the draft. Lamello. Again, we don't
know in terms of development where he'll be, but seen
as who's the youngest of the Kardashians, Chloe is or
Kim is. Chloe is the youngest of the you know,
the first groups, first batch, right, they're like they're like gremlins,
I understand, like giving food or water after midnight, and
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all of a sudden there's more. And then you have
kind of the second batch, the second one the Jenner's Um, yeah,
I would say I would say that's probably I think
I think he's more Chloe. I think he's more Chloe,
although Chloe doesn't look like the mom. That's uh. Anyway,
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here's what Chloe or whatever Kardashian Jello Ball said in
talking to the media. Take a listen to who he
thanked for bringing it back from China. I'd like to
start off by saying sorry for stealing from the stores
in China. I didn't exercise my best judgment and I
was wrong for that. I apologize to my family, my coaches,
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my teammates, and U c l A for letting so
many people down. Also apologize to the people of China
for causing them so much trouble. I would also like
to thank President Trump in the United States government for
the help that they provided as well. Ah Okay, here's
Steve Alford, head coach of these three young men were
maaining suspended indefinitely from our program as we worked through
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the review process with the university's Office of Student Conduct.
During that indefinite suspension, they will not travel with the
team normally shoot up for home games. At some point
they may be permitted to join team workouts, practices, and
meetings with that timeline has yet to be determined. Alright,
so we we got to figure out how bad this
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poop storm is right before before we we we put
them out there music. Let me ask you, you're the
you're the only millennial here on this show. What would
what would you do? I think that they can't be
on the team anymore going forward? Why is that? I
think it's one thing if you get caught stealing. I
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think it's an entirely different situation if you get caught
stealing in a foreign country and the actual president of
the United States has to do some international diplomacy to
make sure you get home safely. Do you think he
actually had to do some diplomacy to get him home safe?
I think so. Yeah. I don't know if it was
entirely necessary, but I do think that it was implemented
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to ensure that they weren't kept there for an extended
period of time. Okay, um Ramos, you are a father,
give me your a sense of what you think the
appropriate punishment would be. Geez, that's a tough one. I
mean I've gone back and forth kicking him off the
team entirely or just suspending them and definitely what is it?
Definitely means what until they in the review process, then
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they may be able to come back after that? Is
that what you would consider the indefinite to be definitely
means whatever you wanted to be Okay, Uh yeah, I'm
okay with suspension and definitely until they reviewed. I don't
know if I kicked him off the team. So how
many games would it be? How many games in the season?
Rot half the season? Kay? Uh rama? What about you,
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Dan Buyer, what would you say that the appropriate Uh? Why, Well,
U c l A play seven awful teams in their
next game. Okay, you're you're taking that into account, but okay, yeah,
so I did. So if you like, have him miss
a couple of good nonconference games or have them miss
good nonconference games, it shows that you have value in it.
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But I think ten is a good number. I'll still
think that maybe we shouldn't look at that had happened
in China, if it happened in the States, if he
they stole something on campus, what would the penalty be?
And so I think that ten games. I don't think
kicking him out entirely or banning him for the year
um is warranted. But um, I'm more inclined to say
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five games. To say five games and you're like, oh,
it's so, it's just look, it's embarrassing, and they embarrassed themselves.
The university held the PAC twelve. College basketball isn't the
Black afric college basketball. Look, I love college basketball does
not help does not help it. It's bad for the brand. Um,
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it's bad for the brand that is the big Balder
brand is bad for the brand that is U c
l A Basketball. But I don't believe it should be
a death sentence. I just don't. Um. Now, look if
your music, if Ryan Music says, hey kick him off
the team and they can be students at u c
l A, which is what you have to do. By
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the way, while on scholars like you could do that.
I do think here's the crazy thing. I said this
yesterday that if it happened, if if jello ball doesn't
play like that's it's an easy way for them to
wash their hands of jello ball. The problem is that
one the other two kids are more talented and they
do need them. And I think you're severely handicapping uh,
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Steve Olford's ability to have have a good team, have
a competitive team. I think I think it hurts their
teammates enough. But like, look, I just think the big
thing is the ball thing made it bigger. President Trump
made it bigger. It was a big deal. And they
have every gym they walk into in the pack twelve,
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they will be made fun of, humiliation galore. And I
don't think it's a crime that rises to the level
of expulsion or kicking you off the team. I just don't.
I think I think there this is a two strikes
more than one sort of crime. But I don't think
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it's three strikes in your out when it's really your
first strike. I just I just don't. It is, in
fact stupid college stuff. It is in fact shoplifting. It's embarrassing.
But I would throw the baby out with the bathwater
just because the President chose to get himself involved. Fox
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the college football rankings for the college football Playoff. And
here's what I tell people all the time about the
n c A Tournament, And I will tell you the
exact same thing about the college football rankings that you
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can tell me. It comes down to last ten games,
strength of schedule, oad wins, blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. But you know what, it really comes down
to what human beings think. The human element, right, the
human element screws everything up because you know, socialism is
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a bad word in this country. Right for some people
who say socialism like whoa, whoa. But again, imagine a
dream scenario, okay, where everybody goes to work. Everybody has
a job. You work as hard as you can at
that job, knowing the government's going to take care of
everything else, right, like health, insurance, education, everything, everything's taken
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care of. Everybody's got a job. You got your different
jobs as you do, um, but everything's just taken care of.
Like that's the idea of it, and you're like, well,
that's kind of kind of cool, kind of kind of cool.
But the problem is that people want to be recognized
for the job. I do a better job than he does,
I should make more money. Well, that's not how it
works on social That's because it's the human element and
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some people are just lazy. Some people be along for
the ride, be like, ah, does it really matter. I'm
still getting paid, my kids are still getting their education. Right.
That's like socialism in in on paper in a textbook,
like it actually works. The problem. The problem with it
is we want to be recognized for being better than others.
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We want to be rewarded as such, and we think
there should be a penalty for not giving it you're
all not everybody tries all that hard. They just don't. Well,
that's the exact same thing as the College Football Awards,
I mean the college football playoff system. You can tell
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me it comes down like Kirby hold cuts ahead. The
committee's like, well, you know, we're holding it against Oklahoma
because they lost to Iowa State. Like, hey, dummy, Iowa
State is actually good this year, actually pretty good. They're
not great, but they're pretty good's not terrible. And how
can you compare that loss to Clemson losing to Syracuse
And they're like, well, Clemson lost their quarterback, Like okay, okay,
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who is Clemson beaten? Well, they've beaten Auburn at home.
Looks like a better win now because Auburn just LAMB
based in Georgia, right, didn Oklahoma just be TCU? Oh?
And who have they beaten on the road? Well, Oklahoma's
being Oklahoma State on the road and Ohio State on
the road. My best guess is that because Clemson has
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been in the national championship hunt the past couple of years,
because they came through and one a national championship last year.
Because you have enough pundits on TV, like, dude, their
front seven is awesome. Their defense is amazing that even
though the results area, Oklahoma has had better results are difficult,
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schedule one tougher road games, and has a less inferior
not as it's high. I struggled with the superior loss,
but a less inferior loss. In spite of all that,
Clemson was ranked ahead of Oklahoma. It makes no sense
unless you're taking the count the human element, because at
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the end of the day, you're supposed to take in
all these stats, but really you just vote your conscience.
That's what happens in the selection committee for basketball. Everybody's
got their own thing like, oh, we got the ask curve,
we got how that team get in? I thought they
were better than the other one. That's really what it
comes out here. Yes, yes, So would you consider the
human element to be a bias? Then okay, so that's
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it's a bias. What it is, it's a bias because
the Big twelve scene and not play defense, right, like
everybody was a Big twell doesn't play defense? Like that's
interesting because TC was the best defensive team in the
Big twelve and oh you had almost fifty and a
half against them, right, And that same Big twelve defense
that sucked the week before and gave up fifty two
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to Okahoma State, shut down Ohio State at Ohio State.
How does that work? And I'm not saying I'm not
saying Okaholm's defense is great. It's not. But the offense
is pretty good. And the defense was good enough to
shut down Ohio State at Ohio State. Oh, they've gotten better.
They've gotten a lot better. They didn't get better against Iowa. Right,
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I don't make any sense. So the only explanation is
the human element. Right, I think therefore it is. That's
why I voted that way. Be sure to catch live
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I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in Daniel Jeremiah from
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the NFL Network. UM, I know that Tyrod is not
his guy. I know that they did draft Peterman on paper.
Tyrod's numbers are decent. Ten touchdowns, three interceptions. He does
throw interceptions. He's good out of the pocket, probably better
out of the pocket than in the pocket. If this
isn't an indictment on Tyrod Taylor, what is it well,
I think when you watch Tyrod, the one thing you
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haven't seen is you know, I just don't think he's
fitting up well in the hole. I don't think he's
he's getting off blocks and making tackles. So obviously that's
why you that's why you that, uh, friends, that's what's
known as sarcasm. It was sarcasm. Tyrod Taylor plays offense
their defense, which, by the way, Sean McDermott is is
the architect of the defense, right. He's a defensive guy,
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is a Jim Johnson guy. With Philadelphia. He was bad
when he was their defensive coordinator. He was good two
years ago with Carolina, he was bad last year with Carolina. Like,
is this simply to deceive us and take our attention
away from how bad the defense is? Is that what
this is? I don't know what it is, Doug. It's
just bizarre. I Mean, the one thing I could think
of is, Okay, we are getting ready to enter into
a full blown rebuild, and we don't think Tyrod is
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going to be the guy that can eventually get us
a championship, which is the ultimate goal. So we're going
to We're gonna go ahead and see what we have
in Peterman see if he could potentially be that guy,
which I don't really see him being that guy, and
I would imagine they'll probably jump with both feet into
the quarterback market in this next draft. It's just it's
absolutely so tell me about Nathan Peterman. Okay, other than
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I mean, like, look, I gotta tell you. I remember
Pittsburgh last year did have a high powered offense. A
matter of fact, the offense was so well regarded that
Matt Canada got a job with l s U. I
think he's the highest paid assistant in college football, So
he has an NFL. People loved Pittsburgh's offense. So he's
not alone. He's not alone in paying attention to Peterman.
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But he's a fifth round pick being thrown into the fire. Yeah. Well,
the good news is, I mean, the comparison was when
you watched him, um a lot of us had used
it was was Kirk Cousins. And we've seen Cousins obviously
come in as a mid round pick and develop into
a really, really good football player. Peterman's got a real
quick release. It's kind of a different offense they ran
there with Canada with a you know a lot of
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shovel and show passes and and uh and quick rhythm throws.
But he's very accurate. He's got a nice quick stroke
and he can make all the throws. So um, you know, look,
he's got a chance. I just don't know that. To me,
it's not even it's really not about Peter match just
I didn't think the Tyrod was playing all that bad.
I thought he was playing good enough for them to
win football games. I didn't think he was the issue.
So it's just kind of odd. But don't you run
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the risk of losing the locker room this way? Right?
Like if if you come in, I mean, I guess
the opposite is you come you run the risk of
of have, you know, scaring the hell out of everybody, Right,
if Tyrod looked twice at you, you got But don't
you like, if Tyrod is not playing that bad, the
defense is playing bad and you hook Tyrod and you
throw a rookie out there and he's not ready. And
while San Diego record wise isn't good, they got two
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nasty defense eve ends that are going to get after
you in Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa. Like, don't you
run the risk of kind of uh losing that locker room. Yeah,
I mean, I think you always have two different groups.
You have a group of guys that are kind of
thinking of long term and they're gonna be a part
of the process. But you also have a group of
veteran guys that realize, Hey, we've got a chance to
go to the postseason right now, and these opportunities are
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few and far between, and they've been very few and
far between and Buffalo, so to have that opportunity now
and if they feel like you're making a move that
doesn't serve you know, your interests for right now, Yeah,
you can lose some veteran guys with that. The New
Orleans Saints uh smacked him. They're seven and two, and
they're doing it running the football and then also doing
with a lot more short, short and midrange passing more
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so than throwing the football down the field. Um, is
this simply a case of their schedules was weak or
are they really one of the better teams in the NFL. Well,
they've kind of quietly built a really good offensive line. Um.
You know, get Armstead is one of the best guys
out there that doesn't He's made some Pro Bowls, but
he doesn't really get mentioned, you know, with the Joe
Thomas is in the world, but he is really really good.
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Larry Warford came over in free agency. They've they've done
a nice job of building up that front, and they've
got a stable backs with different skill sets, and I
think they've thrown the ball to the backs in the league,
so the backfield and given easy completions and making things happen.
So they're they're a balance football team and they've they've
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spent so many resources on defense. You're the cooks, you know,
from the plastick um. They've tried to load up on
that side and they've hit on some dudes. Marsh On
Latimore is playing out of his mind if they got
a lap faster on that side of the ball. So
you're so you're a buyer. Yeah, absolutely. I think this
is what Sean Payton has been trying to do for
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a long time and and finally now he's got it
where he can take some of the pressure off his
quarterback and have some balance. Doug Gottli show Fox spoord
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NFL network. The Dallas Cowboys could not block one guy.
There were other issues there, but they couldn't block one guy.
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And while they said, like, look we chipped him, we
let the lineback, we had the running back there, we
had the tight end there. Like I can't put all
the blame on Chaz Green, can I No? No? I
mean he's look, he's he's overmatched, no question, But you've
got to give up help and you gotta get some
help from your quarterback too, just in terms of climbing
up in the pocket and getting away from some of that.
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I mean, you're the biggest thing as a tackle is hey,
just don't get beat inside. If you get beat outside quickly, um,
he still has some room to climb up and get away.
It just don't get beat inside and you've got no shot.
And a lot of those, a lot of those rushes
were over the top or outside rushes where your quarterbacks
gotta help you out a little bit there. So there's
a plenty of blame to go around. But I mean,
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if nothing else, it was a good day for Tyron
Smith's agent, very good day for Tyrone Smith's agent, and
a good and and you know over on the other side,
you've got a guy who could end up collecting a
huge bonus because of it. Um, Steelers are seven and two,
so I guess that's good. But I mean they're down
seventeen to three to the Colts. They started to put
away the Colts, Like, I mean, shouldn't they be hitting
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on more cylinders by now? Yeah, I don't know how
good the Steelers are, um, but you know, the only
thing winners win and losers lose. Like those are games
that if you take a team like the Browns, the
Browns find themselves and those types of games all the time,
but they can't win any of them. And the Steelers, emil,
it's just so ugly and you leave you don't even
have a good taste in your mouth. But they, you know,
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they get a win and they're, what's seven and two,
So I mean, they just find ways to win some
of these ugly games. I don't think they're built to
last in the in the postseason. I don't know if
Ben's playing at high enough level for them to get
where they want to go right now. So I mean
that's that's kind of the point that I made, which
is like we keep looking around for all these other problems.
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Isn't a good portion of the issue that maybe Ben
Roethlisberger doesn't have it anymore. They've got dudes open. I mean,
like you take you compare the Dallas. When you watch Dallas,
I always like to freeze the tape when you're watching it,
when a quarterback gets to the top of this drop
and just see what he's looking at, and see how
much separation you're getting. Gets a ton of separation with
that group of receivers. There's some easier throws out there,
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whereas Dallas is is very slow. My thoughtical and you've
gotta you gotta thread the needle on Darnier every completion. Yeah,
I mean that's the fall off of Dez Bryant and UH,
to a greater extent, Jason Witt and obviously Age. But
that has been I felt like it's been wildly under reported.
That's just kind of the way I look at it.
Uh Tennessee is six and three, and I can't figure
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out if there are any good at all? Can you? No,
It's gonna be fun to watch, though, with them in
Jacksonville coming down the second half, I think the jack
schedule is pretty friendly, so if I was going to guess,
I would probably lean more. But yeah, no, you don't
know exactly what you're gonna get with Tennessee on a
weekly basis. I do like the fact that they're using
a Dorry Jackson one offense, and I think you said
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more that going forward. I talked about the things under
their backs Titans. I think they might have been dead
last in the league and throwing to the run backs.
They've got two pounders. You almost need a you know,
it's like a basketball team. You gotta have different sizes
and different skill sets. They didn't really have a different
skill set. And I think getting the Dory Jackson involved
and giving them kind of a big place screen draw,
you know he's going to have an impact there. The
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Vikings have at least talked about case Keenum case Keenum
losing his job to Teddy Bridgewater. He's still gonna remain
the starter as of now. Um. I feel like he's
playing well and he's good in their offense, and maybe
the image of Teddy Bridgewater is a lot better than
the actual production of Teddy Bridgewater even before he tore
his knee. Why would they be considering a change. Well,
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I think it's the respect they have for Teddy. Um.
You know, I think it's it's he got hurt. Leaning
up to that point he had he had really improved
at pretty high level. But I think more than the Outfitshi, Hey,
we believe, we want to We want to let Teddy
know and the team know that we believe in him
long term. And that's why you're seeing this's been thrown around.
But I'd be shocked. They're winning games and case Keenum's
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playing solid football. You don't change that up. I would.
I would agree with you. Daniel Jeremiah check out his
podcast with Bucky Brooks. Check him out of the NFL
network well when he joins us here on the Doug
Gottlib Show. Great stuff. J Thanks so much for joining us.
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Breaking news update, breaking news from Fox Sports. Dallas. Cowboys
running back is Zekiel Elliott's released his statement through his
agents saying that he will serve his full six game
suspension and drop any appeals of that six game ban.
In the statement, Elliott said that he consulted with the
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NFL Players Association and his lawyer and after the recent findings,
decided that he will end all appeals and now continue
to serve that six games suspension. Uh here, I want
to read. I want to if you hasn't mind, we
had time. I want to read the whole statement, just
so you know. Is there contrition? Is there? In consultation
with the NFL p A and his lawyers and after
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careful deliberation this from his agents, of course, wrote this,
Mr Elliot decided to forego any further appeals and will
serve the remaining suspension. The decision arises from the practical
assessment of the current legal landscape. Mr elliott desire foreclosure
in this matter is in his best interests as well
as the best institative teammates, family and friends. The decision
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is no way an admission of wrongdoing, and Mr Elliott
is pleased that the that the please that the legal
fight mounted by he and his team resulted in disclosing
many hidden truths regarding the matter, as well as publicly
exposed in the NFL's mismanagement of its disciplinary process. Mr
Elliot will maximize this time away from the game and
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come back even stronger both on and off the field.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So I'm not
saying I did it. I'm simply saying, look the legal challenges,
it's too expensive, it's not really worth it. And we
showed you that we think that she's a liar. And
here's why. Here's all that matters. Two things the matter. First,
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do you think he did it? Music? What do you think? Man?
I think I can't definitely say that he did it,
and I think that is exactly what he hoped to
create a reasonable doubt. Yeah, okay, uh Ramos, do you
think he did it? I am not going to comment
on that. I don't have enough information for myself to
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make an educated guess. It's not an educated guess, it's uneducated.
This is what you personally think. Do you personally think
that he in any way, uh physically mistreated his ex girlfriend? Yes?
You do? Okay, Dan Buyer, Do you think in any
way like, look, this is what we do. We give up.
It doesn't mean you're you're right or you're wrong. But
this is what America when you're walking down the street.
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This kind of is actually the part that matters. The
football stuff doesn't really it does matter. I want to
get to that. But this is the part that kind
of really matters. Do you think what he did has
allowed you to think twice and maybe he didn't do it?
This is where I completely disagree with you, because I
think that from the information that I've heard, there's a
lot of gray area on what actually went on in
those situations. So that's why I think it's very difficult
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to say did he or didn't he. I didn't say
it was I didn't say it was easy, but I
did say that telling me what you actually think inside,
you honestly think, is all I'm asking you. I know,
I just look at it like, if you're cheating on
a test, if you take one answer or you take
all answers, is that just black and white cheating? You know? Like,
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and so that's why I got you. It's a it's
a very good and it's a very good analogy. It's
actually here's another one. Um. I talked about this with
my son's teacher in terms of spelling right, and she's like,
you know, every once in a while I gets a
word wrong and spelling and we were looking at the
spelling tests and I was like, well, he got them
wrong based upon how the English language was written, but
it didn't get them wrong in terms of understanding the phonetics,
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which is actually more important than how they're spelled right anyway,
So I agree with you there. Do you think that
he's that that? Do you believe that he's a a
woman beater? Like that's really right, that's really what kind
of comes down, and then that I would say, no,
I agree with you. I don't and I probably, like
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John Ramos would, none of us have enough information. We
don't know enough about it. But the the information campaign
to uh, you know, to cure the misinformation campaign, they
cure the NFL of like, yeah, I'm sorry, I just
I I think she made it up. That doesn't mean
I think all women who are abused most women don't
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make it up. I think she, like others, did more
damage to women who are abused. Uh, even in many
ways that women that don't say anything that are like
either way is bad. But it's not because it's a cowboy.
I don't carry as a cowboy, don't carry Jerry Jones
is running back. I don't have him on fantasy has
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nothing to do with it. I just think like DoD
there's some stuff in there that's really damning where she's
talking about making up stories about him. Sorry, I think
she made it up, and the cops think she made
it up too, so I could be wrong. Look, he
looks really really bad from it. I mean in this
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we also knew that he was using drugs when he
was based upon their accuizations. He was doing some stuff
he shouldn't have been doing getting ready for the NFL drop.
He doesn't look good out of it. But looking bad
and looking like a woman beater, I don't think he does,
not to me, based upon the information that's available
This is the best of the Don got Leap Show
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the City of Angels. Seventies Sixers are in town. Who
would have thought? People are fired up about the Sixers
and the Lakers tonight at Staples. Everyone in l a
matter of fact, everyone nationally talking about u c l A,
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the u c l A three, who have yet to
pee a drop in a u c l A uniform.
But President Trump bringing back bringing back the hostages. That's
what he's being champion like. He brought back the Iran
Iran hostages from the nineteen eighties. But we're gonna talk
about it. It is fascinating. What do you do if
you're Steve Alford, if you're Dan Garrel, Steve Alford coach
(00:44):
u c l A, Dan Garo, athletic director at u
c l A, what do you do? Um. We'll get
to all of that, but I want to start with
uh interesting story coming out of Buffalo, Buffalo. The Buffalo
Bills spelled with four els to those of us who
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remember history, Yes they got the four straight Super Bowls.
Yes they took els in all four of those Super Bowls,
and they have the longest consecutive streak of not making
the playoffs currently in the NFL. Even the Browns have
made the playoffs more recently than the Bills. M hm. So,
let's check in with Sean McDermott. Okay, this was after
(01:29):
the game on let me see after the game on Sunday,
he said, uh, in kind of Lovey Smiro when Lovey
Smith was the head coach of the Chicago Bears. He's
like Race gross from my quarterback. Over that they get
to the Super Bowl and there're still questions about whether
or not Rex Grossman should be the quarterback. Well over
the the after the game and up until today today
(01:55):
is Wednesday, right, So first, the first couple of days
after the game in which they were blasted by the
New Orleans Saints, Sean McDermott had his quarterback, Tyrod Taylor's back.
Tyrod Taylor's my quarterback, doesn't turn the football over. He's
a leader. Um, let's check in with Sean McDermott. Asked
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to who the starting quarterback of the Bills is. This
is about becoming a better team, and Tyrod has made improvements.
He has made a significant contribution to our team, and
I remain confident in Tyrod moving forward. Um, this is
not an indictment on Tyrod. And he's an important part
of our football team and will continue to be an
important member of our football team moving forward. Do you
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know what Tyrod is not? He is not the starting
quarterback this weekend of the Buffalo Bills. Right, this is
the man. This I do believe Sean McDermott did the
it's not you, It's me on National TV. This is
not an indictment on Tyrod Taylor. I still believe in
Tyrod Taylor. Thy Rod Taylor is still very important as
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a leader of this team. Is tyright Taylor starting quarterback? No?
He is not. You are beautiful, you are wonderful, you
are incredible. I still believe that you are the right
person for me. Are we still together? No? We are not.
And like straight face doing it, it was kind of
remarkably like wait, what what what? What? What just happened?
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What in the heck just happened? Um, look, let's get
to the story behind the story. We talked about this
all the time. You have to have a rabbi in
the room, somebody who believes in you. Somebody who was
there the day you were drafted or the day you
were acquired or if you are to be acquired for
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a free agent on the market, somebody who believes in you,
saw you achieve, helped you achieve some great success. That's
where you should go because they they've seen you perform
in the NFL, in the NBA, in Major League Baseball.
And remember Sean McDermott, and for the most part, he
is the president, general manager, and everything to this organization.
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The general manager. He brought with him from Carolina, Carolina
Panthers where he came from. That's who drafted Nathan Peterman,
who's a fifth round pick. By the way, love his
dad's catalog. Love his dad's calm. Not sure about the
urban sombrero, but other than that, love his dad's catalog.
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So Nathan Peterman, who none of us have ever heard of,
is the starting quarterback. By the way, um, Kellen Clemens
may well be the starting quarterback for the San Diego
Chargers the loan four o'clock game on Fox or l
A Chargers. Sorry, that's because Philip Rivers is coming out
of the concussion protocol. So what really happened. Well, there's
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a couple of things. You have to know who Sean
McDermott is. Right. He came up in the Andy Reid
school of coaching. He was he was underneath one of
the great defensive coordinators in the history of the NFL.
Jim Johnson was the legendary long time defensive coordinator. He
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was the architect behind those Eagles defenses that took Andy
Reid's team to what was it, five NFC Championship games
and one Super Bowl with Donovan mcmcnabb. Right, But the
defense was a huge part of their success. Jim Johnson
got sick, Jim Johnson died, Sean McDermott took over. It
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was a disaster. He goes to Carolina, becomes defensive coordinator,
and two years ago he was the architect of the
best defense in the NFL. They had only one loss
in the regular season. The second loss was in the
Super Bowl. And I will grant it, I would rancho
that the whole thing worked together. You had a great defense,
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you had a great running game. Cam Newton had his
best season, and they played a soft schedule. Whatever it was,
they got to a Super Bowl. Now, last year, the
defense fell off when Josh Dorman left as a free agent,
they changed the defensive backfield. McDermott was still the defensive coordinator.
Mcderman has since left. Now he's the brains behind the
Bills operations, which everybody thought they were gonna be tanking
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this year when they started trading way pieces acquired by
the previous regime Doug Whaley's regime, Rex Ryan's coaching staff.
And yet they were actually better than expected to start
the year. And so maybe they're not tanking. A couple
of things that are interesting. Carolina's defense is much better
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this year, McDermott is not. There is there a correlation.
Maybe it's personnel not scheme. Uh. Secondly, the Buffalo Bills,
and this is really important, they allowed two hundred and
nine eight yards rushing to the New Orleans Saints, prompting
all of us who pay attention to go, wait, did
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Tyrod Taylor not tackle well enough as quarterback? Is that
why he got pulled? How much of this is reaction
to Tyrod Taylor, who, in a local newspaper interview complained
about the fact that because he's a black quarterback, people
talk about him like he's a running quarterback, like Tyrod
Taylor is the only quarterback, only person on earth who
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doesn't understand he's an athletic running quarterback. Whether he's black,
whether he's white, with he's mixed race, whether he's Hispanic,
it doesn't matter. Tyrod Taylor runs it really, really well.
He's undersized, thus he's good out of the pocket. But
let's be honest, Tyrod Taylor has not been good. What's
crazy is they make a change now, which brings a
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couple of possibilities to mind. The first is, it's a
great deceptive tach decep to tactic, right, don't pay attention
to how bad my defense has been and the fact
that we dumped Marcel Darius in order to get a
draft pick. Instead, pay attention to the problems on offense.
The second is, and this is probably likely, you got
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a guy in Peterman who you drafted, you believed in,
and whatever you heard from Tyrod Taylor in the meeting
rooms in terms of leadership and buying wasn't what you
were looking for. You want Tyrod Taylor, whether it was
his fault or not his fault, to act like what
went wrong was his fault, because that's what a quarterback
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does and you didn't hear it, and that's why the
move is made. And maybe the last possible possible explanation
for this is the Bills are really bad at tanking.
It's possible like we thought we wanted to tank, then
we won a couple of games, and then we decided
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we wanted to tank. Anyway, Look, Tyrod Taylor as the
second low as completion percentage into tight windows. He's an
athletic quarterback with an erratic arm who's undersized, and his
contract is was terrible last year to get out of
and this year it's eight million dollars of dead money
and they may want to walk away from it. But
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if you're Sean McDermott and this is your first head
coaching job, and oh yeah, by the way, you're also
basically the president of operations and the GM, well you
better really really know the temperature of your locker room
if you're going to make a change in this fashion.
It's not that they changed quarterbacks. It's that they said
they weren't going to change quarterbacks on Sunday, on Monday,
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and on Tuesday and on Wednesday. They didn't just say
they're gonna change quarterbacks. He had the hutzpah. You don't
know what hits biss Definitely audacity, nerve. They had the
balls to go, Hey, we love Tyrod Taylor. Tyrod Taylor's
a leader. Tyrod Taylor is s important. It's Tyrod Taylors
starting quarterback. No, he's not. That takes hutzpah, yiddish, It
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takes nerve, it takes bulls. If you're gonna do that,
you better know the locker room is gonna react positively.
Otherwise dudes are gonna shut down like Man and Sean McDermott.
He's he is playing for next year, or he is
playing only his guys are his guys, and Peterman's his
guy and Tyrod is not his guy. But what a
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crazy situation from Buffalo, who, by the way, is five
and four. I don't know how they're five and four,
but we talked about this yesterday. I don't know how
the Saints or seven and two, or how the Titans
are six and three, or the Steelers, who haven't even
played that well this year are seven and two this year.
It doesn't make any sense. Be sure to catch live
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the I Heart Radio app and Hill Cody Riley, who
are actually really good basketball players. Jello Ball is not,
but he's one of the members of the Ball family.
He is. What Kardashian would he be like if um Courtney, uh,
(11:16):
well kicked by because Courtney is fat and he's fat. No,
Courtney is not fat. Courtney was fat. What didn't she know?
Which was the one that was that was with Lamar?
That was um Chloe? Yes, yeah, okay, so Chloe is okay,
but boy way, I'm just I'm just saying, so why
Courtney and not not Chloe. I I don't watch the
Kardashians enough. I do know. I do know which because
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because she's Courtney is the oldest one, so he's not
the oldest. Courtney was the one that was was married
to Scott correct, that's correct. Well they never were married.
They weren't married. No, they never got She wanted to
get married and he he did not. They were never married.
No three children, no marriage. That's wrong. Another wrong that
I know. I know a couple people like that that
they don't want to lose after stuff. I got you
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where do I sign up to lose half my stuff?
Oh here all the marriage? Yeah, no, no problem. Um, okay,
So which kardash you would Jello B. Jello is the
least talented. Jello though looks the most like his dad,
Like he's built the most like his dad. And when
I say least talent, to keep in mind his brother's
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a second pick of the draft. Lamello. Again, we don't
know in terms of development where he'll be, but seen
as who's the youngest of the Kardashians, Chloe is or
Kim is. Chloe is the youngest of the you know,
the first groups, first batch, right, they're like they're like gremlins,
I understand, like giving food or water after midnight, and
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all of a sudden there's more. And then you have
kind of the second batch, the second one the Jenner's Um, yeah,
I would say I would say that's probably I think
I think he's more Chloe. I think he's more Chloe,
although Chloe doesn't look like the mom. That's uh. Anyway,
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here's what Chloe or whatever Kardashian Jello Ball said in
talking to the media. Take a listen to who he
thanked for bringing it back from China. I'd like to
start off by saying sorry for stealing from the stores
in China. I didn't exercise my best judgment and I
was wrong for that. I apologize to my family, my coaches,
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my teammates, and U c l A for letting so
many people down. Also apologize to the people of China
for causing them so much trouble. I would also like
to thank President Trump in the United States government for
the help that they provided as well. Ah Okay, here's
Steve Alford, head coach of these three young men were
maaining suspended indefinitely from our program as we worked through
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the review process with the university's Office of Student Conduct.
During that indefinite suspension, they will not travel with the
team normally shoot up for home games. At some point
they may be permitted to join team workouts, practices, and
meetings with that timeline has yet to be determined. Alright,
so we we got to figure out how bad this
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poop storm is right before before we we we put
them out there music. Let me ask you, you're the
you're the only millennial here on this show. What would
what would you do? I think that they can't be
on the team anymore going forward? Why is that? I
think it's one thing if you get caught stealing. I
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think it's an entirely different situation if you get caught
stealing in a foreign country and the actual president of
the United States has to do some international diplomacy to
make sure you get home safely. Do you think he
actually had to do some diplomacy to get him home safe?
I think so. Yeah. I don't know if it was
entirely necessary, but I do think that it was implemented
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to ensure that they weren't kept there for an extended
period of time. Okay, um Ramos, you are a father,
give me your a sense of what you think the
appropriate punishment would be. Geez, that's a tough one. I
mean I've gone back and forth kicking him off the
team entirely or just suspending them and definitely what is it?
Definitely means what until they in the review process, then
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they may be able to come back after that? Is
that what you would consider the indefinite to be definitely
means whatever you wanted to be Okay, Uh yeah, I'm
okay with suspension and definitely until they reviewed. I don't
know if I kicked him off the team. So how
many games would it be? How many games in the season?
Rot half the season? Kay? Uh rama? What about you,
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Dan Buyer, what would you say that the appropriate Uh? Why, Well,
U c l A play seven awful teams in their
next game. Okay, you're you're taking that into account, but okay, yeah,
so I did. So if you like, have him miss
a couple of good nonconference games or have them miss
good nonconference games, it shows that you have value in it.
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But I think ten is a good number. I'll still
think that maybe we shouldn't look at that had happened
in China, if it happened in the States, if he
they stole something on campus, what would the penalty be?
And so I think that ten games. I don't think
kicking him out entirely or banning him for the year
um is warranted. But um, I'm more inclined to say
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five games. To say five games and you're like, oh,
it's so, it's just look, it's embarrassing, and they embarrassed themselves.
The university held the PAC twelve. College basketball isn't the
Black afric college basketball. Look, I love college basketball does
not help does not help it. It's bad for the brand. Um,
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it's bad for the brand that is the big Balder
brand is bad for the brand that is U c
l A Basketball. But I don't believe it should be
a death sentence. I just don't. Um. Now, look if
your music, if Ryan Music says, hey kick him off
the team and they can be students at u c
l A, which is what you have to do. By
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the way, while on scholars like you could do that.
I do think here's the crazy thing. I said this
yesterday that if it happened, if if jello ball doesn't
play like that's it's an easy way for them to
wash their hands of jello ball. The problem is that
one the other two kids are more talented and they
do need them. And I think you're severely handicapping uh,
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Steve Olford's ability to have have a good team, have
a competitive team. I think I think it hurts their
teammates enough. But like, look, I just think the big
thing is the ball thing made it bigger. President Trump
made it bigger. It was a big deal. And they
have every gym they walk into in the pack twelve,
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they will be made fun of, humiliation galore. And I
don't think it's a crime that rises to the level
of expulsion or kicking you off the team. I just don't.
I think I think there this is a two strikes
more than one sort of crime. But I don't think
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it's three strikes in your out when it's really your
first strike. I just I just don't. It is, in
fact stupid college stuff. It is in fact shoplifting. It's embarrassing.
But I would throw the baby out with the bathwater
just because the President chose to get himself involved. Fox
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the college football rankings for the college football Playoff. And
here's what I tell people all the time about the
n c A Tournament, And I will tell you the
exact same thing about the college football rankings that you
(18:54):
can tell me. It comes down to last ten games,
strength of schedule, oad wins, blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. But you know what, it really comes down
to what human beings think. The human element, right, the
human element screws everything up because you know, socialism is
(19:19):
a bad word in this country. Right for some people
who say socialism like whoa, whoa. But again, imagine a
dream scenario, okay, where everybody goes to work. Everybody has
a job. You work as hard as you can at
that job, knowing the government's going to take care of
everything else, right, like health, insurance, education, everything, everything's taken
(19:45):
care of. Everybody's got a job. You got your different
jobs as you do, um, but everything's just taken care of.
Like that's the idea of it, and you're like, well,
that's kind of kind of cool, kind of kind of cool.
But the problem is that people want to be recognized
for the job. I do a better job than he does,
I should make more money. Well, that's not how it
works on social That's because it's the human element and
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some people are just lazy. Some people be along for
the ride, be like, ah, does it really matter. I'm
still getting paid, my kids are still getting their education. Right.
That's like socialism in in on paper in a textbook,
like it actually works. The problem. The problem with it
is we want to be recognized for being better than others.
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We want to be rewarded as such, and we think
there should be a penalty for not giving it you're
all not everybody tries all that hard. They just don't. Well,
that's the exact same thing as the College Football Awards,
I mean the college football playoff system. You can tell
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me it comes down like Kirby hold cuts ahead. The
committee's like, well, you know, we're holding it against Oklahoma
because they lost to Iowa State. Like, hey, dummy, Iowa
State is actually good this year, actually pretty good. They're
not great, but they're pretty good's not terrible. And how
can you compare that loss to Clemson losing to Syracuse
And they're like, well, Clemson lost their quarterback, Like okay, okay,
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who is Clemson beaten? Well, they've beaten Auburn at home.
Looks like a better win now because Auburn just LAMB
based in Georgia, right, didn Oklahoma just be TCU? Oh?
And who have they beaten on the road? Well, Oklahoma's
being Oklahoma State on the road and Ohio State on
the road. My best guess is that because Clemson has
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been in the national championship hunt the past couple of years,
because they came through and one a national championship last year.
Because you have enough pundits on TV, like, dude, their
front seven is awesome. Their defense is amazing that even
though the results area, Oklahoma has had better results are difficult,
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schedule one tougher road games, and has a less inferior
not as it's high. I struggled with the superior loss,
but a less inferior loss. In spite of all that,
Clemson was ranked ahead of Oklahoma. It makes no sense
unless you're taking the count the human element, because at
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the end of the day, you're supposed to take in
all these stats, but really you just vote your conscience.
That's what happens in the selection committee for basketball. Everybody's
got their own thing like, oh, we got the ask curve,
we got how that team get in? I thought they
were better than the other one. That's really what it
comes out here. Yes, yes, So would you consider the
human element to be a bias? Then okay, so that's
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it's a bias. What it is, it's a bias because
the Big twelve scene and not play defense, right, like
everybody was a Big twell doesn't play defense? Like that's
interesting because TC was the best defensive team in the
Big twelve and oh you had almost fifty and a
half against them, right, And that same Big twelve defense
that sucked the week before and gave up fifty two
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to Okahoma State, shut down Ohio State at Ohio State.
How does that work? And I'm not saying I'm not
saying Okaholm's defense is great. It's not. But the offense
is pretty good. And the defense was good enough to
shut down Ohio State at Ohio State. Oh, they've gotten better.
They've gotten a lot better. They didn't get better against Iowa. Right,
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I don't make any sense. So the only explanation is
the human element. Right, I think therefore it is. That's
why I voted that way. Be sure to catch live
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I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in Daniel Jeremiah from
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the NFL Network. UM, I know that Tyrod is not
his guy. I know that they did draft Peterman on paper.
Tyrod's numbers are decent. Ten touchdowns, three interceptions. He does
throw interceptions. He's good out of the pocket, probably better
out of the pocket than in the pocket. If this
isn't an indictment on Tyrod Taylor, what is it well,
I think when you watch Tyrod, the one thing you
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haven't seen is you know, I just don't think he's
fitting up well in the hole. I don't think he's
he's getting off blocks and making tackles. So obviously that's
why you that's why you that, uh, friends, that's what's
known as sarcasm. It was sarcasm. Tyrod Taylor plays offense
their defense, which, by the way, Sean McDermott is is
the architect of the defense, right. He's a defensive guy,
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is a Jim Johnson guy. With Philadelphia. He was bad
when he was their defensive coordinator. He was good two
years ago with Carolina, he was bad last year with Carolina. Like,
is this simply to deceive us and take our attention
away from how bad the defense is? Is that what
this is? I don't know what it is, Doug. It's
just bizarre. I Mean, the one thing I could think
of is, Okay, we are getting ready to enter into
a full blown rebuild, and we don't think Tyrod is
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going to be the guy that can eventually get us
a championship, which is the ultimate goal. So we're going
to We're gonna go ahead and see what we have
in Peterman see if he could potentially be that guy,
which I don't really see him being that guy, and
I would imagine they'll probably jump with both feet into
the quarterback market in this next draft. It's just it's
absolutely so tell me about Nathan Peterman. Okay, other than
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I mean, like, look, I gotta tell you. I remember
Pittsburgh last year did have a high powered offense. A
matter of fact, the offense was so well regarded that
Matt Canada got a job with l s U. I
think he's the highest paid assistant in college football, So
he has an NFL. People loved Pittsburgh's offense. So he's
not alone. He's not alone in paying attention to Peterman.
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But he's a fifth round pick being thrown into the fire. Yeah. Well,
the good news is, I mean, the comparison was when
you watched him, um a lot of us had used
it was was Kirk Cousins. And we've seen Cousins obviously
come in as a mid round pick and develop into
a really, really good football player. Peterman's got a real
quick release. It's kind of a different offense they ran
there with Canada with a you know a lot of
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shovel and show passes and and uh and quick rhythm throws.
But he's very accurate. He's got a nice quick stroke
and he can make all the throws. So um, you know, look,
he's got a chance. I just don't know that. To me,
it's not even it's really not about Peter match just
I didn't think the Tyrod was playing all that bad.
I thought he was playing good enough for them to
win football games. I didn't think he was the issue.
So it's just kind of odd. But don't you run
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the risk of losing the locker room this way? Right?
Like if if you come in, I mean, I guess
the opposite is you come you run the risk of
of have, you know, scaring the hell out of everybody, Right,
if Tyrod looked twice at you, you got But don't
you like, if Tyrod is not playing that bad, the
defense is playing bad and you hook Tyrod and you
throw a rookie out there and he's not ready. And
while San Diego record wise isn't good, they got two
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nasty defense eve ends that are going to get after
you in Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa. Like, don't you
run the risk of kind of uh losing that locker room. Yeah,
I mean, I think you always have two different groups.
You have a group of guys that are kind of
thinking of long term and they're gonna be a part
of the process. But you also have a group of
veteran guys that realize, Hey, we've got a chance to
go to the postseason right now, and these opportunities are
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few and far between, and they've been very few and
far between and Buffalo, so to have that opportunity now
and if they feel like you're making a move that
doesn't serve you know, your interests for right now, Yeah,
you can lose some veteran guys with that. The New
Orleans Saints uh smacked him. They're seven and two, and
they're doing it running the football and then also doing
with a lot more short, short and midrange passing more
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so than throwing the football down the field. Um, is
this simply a case of their schedules was weak or
are they really one of the better teams in the NFL. Well,
they've kind of quietly built a really good offensive line. Um.
You know, get Armstead is one of the best guys
out there that doesn't He's made some Pro Bowls, but
he doesn't really get mentioned, you know, with the Joe
Thomas is in the world, but he is really really good.
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Larry Warford came over in free agency. They've they've done
a nice job of building up that front, and they've
got a stable backs with different skill sets, and I
think they've thrown the ball to the backs in the league,
so the backfield and given easy completions and making things happen.
So they're they're a balance football team and they've they've
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spent so many resources on defense. You're the cooks, you know,
from the plastick um. They've tried to load up on
that side and they've hit on some dudes. Marsh On
Latimore is playing out of his mind if they got
a lap faster on that side of the ball. So
you're so you're a buyer. Yeah, absolutely. I think this
is what Sean Payton has been trying to do for
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a long time and and finally now he's got it
where he can take some of the pressure off his
quarterback and have some balance. Doug Gottli show Fox spoord
Trader that's voice of Dana Jeremiah also has an outstanding
podcast with Bucky Brooks. You can see him on the
NFL network. The Dallas Cowboys could not block one guy.
There were other issues there, but they couldn't block one guy.
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And while they said, like, look we chipped him, we
let the lineback, we had the running back there, we
had the tight end there. Like I can't put all
the blame on Chaz Green, can I No? No? I
mean he's look, he's he's overmatched, no question, But you've
got to give up help and you gotta get some
help from your quarterback too, just in terms of climbing
up in the pocket and getting away from some of that.
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I mean, you're the biggest thing as a tackle is hey,
just don't get beat inside. If you get beat outside quickly, um,
he still has some room to climb up and get away.
It just don't get beat inside and you've got no shot.
And a lot of those, a lot of those rushes
were over the top or outside rushes where your quarterbacks
gotta help you out a little bit there. So there's
a plenty of blame to go around. But I mean,
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if nothing else, it was a good day for Tyron
Smith's agent, very good day for Tyrone Smith's agent, and
a good and and you know over on the other side,
you've got a guy who could end up collecting a
huge bonus because of it. Um, Steelers are seven and two,
so I guess that's good. But I mean they're down
seventeen to three to the Colts. They started to put
away the Colts, Like, I mean, shouldn't they be hitting
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on more cylinders by now? Yeah, I don't know how
good the Steelers are, um, but you know, the only
thing winners win and losers lose. Like those are games
that if you take a team like the Browns, the
Browns find themselves and those types of games all the time,
but they can't win any of them. And the Steelers, emil,
it's just so ugly and you leave you don't even
have a good taste in your mouth. But they, you know,
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they get a win and they're, what's seven and two,
So I mean, they just find ways to win some
of these ugly games. I don't think they're built to
last in the in the postseason. I don't know if
Ben's playing at high enough level for them to get
where they want to go right now. So I mean
that's that's kind of the point that I made, which
is like we keep looking around for all these other problems.
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Isn't a good portion of the issue that maybe Ben
Roethlisberger doesn't have it anymore. They've got dudes open. I mean,
like you take you compare the Dallas. When you watch Dallas,
I always like to freeze the tape when you're watching it,
when a quarterback gets to the top of this drop
and just see what he's looking at, and see how
much separation you're getting. Gets a ton of separation with
that group of receivers. There's some easier throws out there,
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whereas Dallas is is very slow. My thoughtical and you've
gotta you gotta thread the needle on Darnier every completion. Yeah,
I mean that's the fall off of Dez Bryant and UH,
to a greater extent, Jason Witt and obviously Age. But
that has been I felt like it's been wildly under reported.
That's just kind of the way I look at it.
Uh Tennessee is six and three, and I can't figure
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out if there are any good at all? Can you? No,
It's gonna be fun to watch, though, with them in
Jacksonville coming down the second half, I think the jack
schedule is pretty friendly, so if I was going to guess,
I would probably lean more. But yeah, no, you don't
know exactly what you're gonna get with Tennessee on a
weekly basis. I do like the fact that they're using
a Dorry Jackson one offense, and I think you said
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more that going forward. I talked about the things under
their backs Titans. I think they might have been dead
last in the league and throwing to the run backs.
They've got two pounders. You almost need a you know,
it's like a basketball team. You gotta have different sizes
and different skill sets. They didn't really have a different
skill set. And I think getting the Dory Jackson involved
and giving them kind of a big place screen draw,
you know he's going to have an impact there. The
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Vikings have at least talked about case Keenum case Keenum
losing his job to Teddy Bridgewater. He's still gonna remain
the starter as of now. Um. I feel like he's
playing well and he's good in their offense, and maybe
the image of Teddy Bridgewater is a lot better than
the actual production of Teddy Bridgewater even before he tore
his knee. Why would they be considering a change. Well,
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I think it's the respect they have for Teddy. Um.
You know, I think it's it's he got hurt. Leaning
up to that point he had he had really improved
at pretty high level. But I think more than the Outfitshi, Hey,
we believe, we want to We want to let Teddy
know and the team know that we believe in him
long term. And that's why you're seeing this's been thrown around.
But I'd be shocked. They're winning games and case Keenum's
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playing solid football. You don't change that up. I would.
I would agree with you. Daniel Jeremiah check out his
podcast with Bucky Brooks. Check him out of the NFL
network well when he joins us here on the Doug
Gottlib Show. Great stuff. J Thanks so much for joining us.
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(33:11):
Breaking news update, breaking news from Fox Sports. Dallas. Cowboys
running back is Zekiel Elliott's released his statement through his
agents saying that he will serve his full six game
suspension and drop any appeals of that six game ban.
In the statement, Elliott said that he consulted with the
(33:31):
NFL Players Association and his lawyer and after the recent findings,
decided that he will end all appeals and now continue
to serve that six games suspension. Uh here, I want
to read. I want to if you hasn't mind, we
had time. I want to read the whole statement, just
so you know. Is there contrition? Is there? In consultation
with the NFL p A and his lawyers and after
(33:54):
careful deliberation this from his agents, of course, wrote this,
Mr Elliot decided to forego any further appeals and will
serve the remaining suspension. The decision arises from the practical
assessment of the current legal landscape. Mr elliott desire foreclosure
in this matter is in his best interests as well
as the best institative teammates, family and friends. The decision
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is no way an admission of wrongdoing, and Mr Elliott
is pleased that the that the please that the legal
fight mounted by he and his team resulted in disclosing
many hidden truths regarding the matter, as well as publicly
exposed in the NFL's mismanagement of its disciplinary process. Mr
Elliot will maximize this time away from the game and
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come back even stronger both on and off the field.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So I'm not
saying I did it. I'm simply saying, look the legal challenges,
it's too expensive, it's not really worth it. And we
showed you that we think that she's a liar. And
here's why. Here's all that matters. Two things the matter. First,
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do you think he did it? Music? What do you think? Man?
I think I can't definitely say that he did it,
and I think that is exactly what he hoped to
create a reasonable doubt. Yeah, okay, uh Ramos, do you
think he did it? I am not going to comment
on that. I don't have enough information for myself to
(35:20):
make an educated guess. It's not an educated guess, it's uneducated.
This is what you personally think. Do you personally think
that he in any way, uh physically mistreated his ex girlfriend? Yes?
You do? Okay, Dan Buyer, Do you think in any
way like, look, this is what we do. We give up.
It doesn't mean you're you're right or you're wrong. But
this is what America when you're walking down the street.
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This kind of is actually the part that matters. The
football stuff doesn't really it does matter. I want to
get to that. But this is the part that kind
of really matters. Do you think what he did has
allowed you to think twice and maybe he didn't do it?
This is where I completely disagree with you, because I
think that from the information that I've heard, there's a
lot of gray area on what actually went on in
those situations. So that's why I think it's very difficult
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to say did he or didn't he. I didn't say
it was I didn't say it was easy, but I
did say that telling me what you actually think inside,
you honestly think, is all I'm asking you. I know,
I just look at it like, if you're cheating on
a test, if you take one answer or you take
all answers, is that just black and white cheating? You know? Like,
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and so that's why I got you. It's a it's
a very good and it's a very good analogy. It's
actually here's another one. Um. I talked about this with
my son's teacher in terms of spelling right, and she's like,
you know, every once in a while I gets a
word wrong and spelling and we were looking at the
spelling tests and I was like, well, he got them
wrong based upon how the English language was written, but
it didn't get them wrong in terms of understanding the phonetics,
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which is actually more important than how they're spelled right anyway,
So I agree with you there. Do you think that
he's that that? Do you believe that he's a a
woman beater? Like that's really right, that's really what kind
of comes down, and then that I would say, no,
I agree with you. I don't and I probably, like
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John Ramos would, none of us have enough information. We
don't know enough about it. But the the information campaign
to uh, you know, to cure the misinformation campaign, they
cure the NFL of like, yeah, I'm sorry, I just
I I think she made it up. That doesn't mean
I think all women who are abused most women don't
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make it up. I think she, like others, did more
damage to women who are abused. Uh, even in many
ways that women that don't say anything that are like
either way is bad. But it's not because it's a cowboy.
I don't carry as a cowboy, don't carry Jerry Jones
is running back. I don't have him on fantasy has
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nothing to do with it. I just think like DoD
there's some stuff in there that's really damning where she's
talking about making up stories about him. Sorry, I think
she made it up, and the cops think she made
it up too, so I could be wrong. Look, he
looks really really bad from it. I mean in this
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we also knew that he was using drugs when he
was based upon their accuizations. He was doing some stuff
he shouldn't have been doing getting ready for the NFL drop.
He doesn't look good out of it. But looking bad
and looking like a woman beater, I don't think he does,
not to me, based upon the information that's available
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