November 28, 2017 • 45 mins
Doug says continual questions about whether Joe Flacco is an elite quarterback in the NFL proves you already know the answer. He reacts to the breaking news that the Giants are benching 2-time Super Bowl Champion quarterback Eli Manning for Geno Smith. And Doug talks to Celtics head coach Brad Stevens about their season so far after losing Gordon Hayward for the season and what it is like to coach Kyrie Irving.
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This is the best of the Doug gott Leap Show
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late Great James Brown of radio, hardest working man in
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I'm actually gonna do some games on Facebook. Facebook is
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plus on Facebook. Yeah, there'll there'll be some eyes on that.
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Doing the three Facebook games in three days, so that'll
be fun and still with you every afternoon or midday,
depending on where you're listening to this show. We appreciate it.
Brad Stevens, head coach of the first place Celtics, who
did lose last night, so I do not take credit.
Is not a Gottlie curse. If you lose the night
before you join me. Of course we will grant him
a win in his next game. But Brad Stevens will
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join us upcoming in fifteen minutes here on the program,
we have a lot to get to. Let's begin with
Monday Night football and so ends an incredibly boring weekend
in the National Football League, but it ends with Joe
Flacco winning. Joe Flacco one, hey, one, um, Look, I
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don't know how many times we can do this in
different ways and different sports. But if you keep asking
the same question and you aren't getting the answer that
you feel like is appropriate, you know that the tough answer,
the hard answer, is in fact the hard truth. Remember
a couple of years ago and Joe Flacco before he
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won a Super bowls is Joe Flacco elite? Should Joe
Flacco get elite money? And of course he led the
Ravens to a Super Bowl? And I'll be the first
admit that Joe is uh even more than Jeter. Like Derek,
Jeter gets credit for being a great clutch player. What
Derek Jeter was able to do is be the same
player in the postseason he was in the regular season.
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Like the stats are eerily similar, and in many ways,
I would rather be seen as clutch than good, right,
Like Robert Ory is not one of the great power
forwards of all time. But damn it sure seemed like
he made a lot of big shots, didn't it. And
the indelible image of the Super Bowl, and of course
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our knowledge that he cashed in. He he put his
reputation on the line, he cashed in on winning a
championship strikes me as among the most memorable parts of
that super run. Sure it was ray Lewis, but the
fact is ray Lewis hurt more than helped the Ravens
on the field that they went at him, not away
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from him. Sure it was the blackout game to which
Colin Kaepernick and the Niners nearly came from behind, and
one albeit they were not able to score on a
fade pattern, something he doesn't throw well and which is
completed at a very low rate. But the biggest story
from the Baltimore Ravens winning the Super Bowl a couple
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years ago was Joe Flacco is the elite. And if
the the if the initial answer or the answer that's
repeatedly given doesn't seem to measure up, it's because the
hard answer is the true answer. Now, do I think
that Joe Flacco has gotten worse? I actually do member
He suffered a debilitating a c L injury. Remember he
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had a bad back to start the year. He is
not surrounded by nearly the talent he has been surrounded
by in the past. They don't have a running game
to speak of, they don't have Steve smith Um. There
have been plenty of players that have come and gone
and offensive coordinators that have that have come and gone.
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But the fact is that we keep trying to think
this narrative of Joe Flacco having won a Listen, he
won a super Bowl. Hey, listen, he want a super Bowl.
And I don't think that puts him in the trend
deal for just hand the ball off and manage the
clock game manager mode. But if you want to tell
me Joe Flacco is elite, that's fine. I have enough
data now to prove that you're wrong. It doesn't mean
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that he's a bad guy. It doesn't mean that he's
a horrible player. It doesn't mean that he should be
embarrassed to show himself in public, but can we be
honest he's just okay, and just okay is probably over
selling it. He's probably getting that super Bowl pass. And
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that's what you get. You would this World Series. You
get a World Series pass, you win a college football championship,
you get a college football pass, you win an NBA championship,
We'll give you an NBA Championship pass. When the truth
is that Joe Flacco has been mostly the same guy
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his entire career, and that is just not that in
an elite quarterback that's of mostly an average quarterback and
even some below average quarterback. Here Joe Flacco on his
team's chances to make the Super Bowl. We want to
win the super Bowl. I've been as lead long enough
to know if you don't win the super Bowl, it
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doesn't mean anything. And if we believe we can win
the super Bowl with how we're playing right now, I'm
all for it, I really am. But I mean, you guys,
can you know we can all take a look at
that and say that probably not super realistic. We need
to go out there and we need to go get it.
And we need to be better on our side of
the ball and work for that time. And look, he
says and does all the right things. He is not
a problem off the football field. He's not even a problem.
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He's not a problem in the locker room. And I
would say that his general statistics are better than his
stats this year, which nine touchdowns and eleven interceptions. That's
his actual stats this year. But here we are in
the era where everybody should throw for three thousand occasionally
four thousand. He did throw for four thousand yards last year,
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but that's because they were not a good team. Fifteen
picks last year. He's generally about a twenty to twenty
five touchdown guy, a ten to fifteen interception guy. That's
what he is. He is average Joe. He is just
average Joe Flacco. And this year he's been slightly below average.
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He's throwing shorter crossing routes. He's not challenging people deep
down the field. Some of that is the personnel that's
around him. Some of that is the fact they don't
have a running game, but some of that is Joe Flacco.
When people kept asking is the elite is the elite?
Is the elite and and the answer never really satisfied you.
It's because the hard answer was no, he's not. But
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it's hard to say that somebody who want a super Bowl,
somebody has performed better than expected in the playoffs isn't
considered an elite quarterback. Like we get onto, there's some
similarities there did Eli Manning, who of course has won
two Super Bowls. Where Eli has been good or better
at times in the playoffs than his reputation the regular season.
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Eli never gets hurt, doesn't miss, doesn't miss the start,
throws her about the same number yards, throws for slightly
more touchdowns. Eli is a slightly better quarterback than Joe Flacco.
But there's we we almost paid too much attention to
the postseason with Flacco limited sample size, quality, coaching staff,
and the fact that playing with the Ravens he's always
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been in the playoffs. So kind of like Jeter, he's
been able to a crew a lot, a lot more
UH playoff games, and the more playoff games, the more
playoffs success that you can have. And to be totally honest,
in most of those playoff games they have a dominant
defense and dominant running game, and so Joe Flacco doesn't
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have to be great, doesn't have to carry a team,
but the elite of all elite can carry their football team.
And Flacco is just not that guy, and especially now
within this offense. So this is I give this advice
to guys all the time. I give it to Ryan Music,
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who has been dating his girlfriend for over a year now, right, Music,
that's correct. Did you ever get the reinvite to the
second Hawaii Trippers that ship sailed? No, I have been
the formal invitation has been resubmitted, and I have accepted.
Good good, good man. And look, I'm not gonna put
you on the spot, not at least now. But you know,
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once you've been with a girl six months to a
year and and somebody asks you like, are you in love?
Is she the one? And you're like, I don't know.
It's because you know what the answer is. You know
what the answer is, and the reason you don't want
to give the honest answer, which is if it's not yes,
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absolutely is probably not because then you have to go
back at first thing. You have to break your girl's
heart or she has to break your heart, however it works,
and then you gotta start all over and go through
the process, and even that's not probably like I'm better
off just staying here. Maybe I'll feel it sometimes too. Like, dude,
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if you don't feel it six months or year in,
you ain't gonna feel it. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in the head
coach of the team with the best record, still the
best record in the NBA, even after last night's lost
to the Pistons, as Brad Stevens of the Seas He
joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. Brad, how are you, hi, Doug?
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How are you doing good? Man? Um, Let's let's start
at the beginning. Gordon Heyward goes down in the first
quarter of your first game, and like, look, there's there's
far more tragic events that, um, you also don't prepare
yourself for. But for as a coach, you have eleven
new players and a lot of the hype is surrounding
not just Kyrie but Gordon. Um, what did you draw on,
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Like what level of of preparation could you drawn in
order to kind of reconfigure your team? As you were
still figuring out your team when you lost Gordon the
first quarter of your first game. Well, I think there's
a couple of layers to that, right. The first one
is the emotional loss not only for you know, for
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for him, but how you feel for him, um, because
you know that he obviously you know, this was a
hard decision for him to come to Boston and to
choose to come here and choose to play with this team,
and for it to really be taken away in the
first six minutes of the season is really difficult. And
there's a lot of challenges that come every day with um,
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you know, the with going through rehab versus going through
and having a scoreboard and competing in the games. And
but he's doing he's doing really well and all of that.
And and when we when we learned that um, he
was gonna be able to make a full recovery and
he chose surgery and the surgery went great, and he
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started that process, I think it was um, you know,
an opportunity for us all to say, okay, now, how
do we maximize this. The hard part in the NBA
is the lack of practice time. We haven't hardly had
any practices since the start of the season, because we
basically played every other day for the last thirty six days.
And and so what we've done is we've tried to
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you know, UM, you know, walk through by walk through,
meeting by meeting, UM talk about how we can be
a little bit better and play a little bit better.
And you know, we've had a lot of guys step
up and and and play UM well in his absence
or others absences when we've had other injuries thus far.
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Your schedule is interesting because you know, like the Lakers
had like four days off before playing last night, and
your schedule continues with this, like like you played last night,
now you do have a couple of days before you played. Yeah,
and and then after that it goes back to the
either one day off or you're you're playing on back
to backs yet again, like it feels like maybe that's
the curse of being good and people want to see
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you on TV. Yeah, and probably and and and the
other thing that's unique about our schedule this year as
we go to London, so there's a big break in
the middle of January when you're traveling to and from
London in the days off and recovering and everything else.
So you you have other you know, times of your
schedule that are jammed up. But that's okay. You can
you can manage that a pro brittlely. Um. The bottom
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line is you just can't practice very often because, um,
you know you're gonna need everything you've got to play
in the games. Um, you know, from a physical and
mental perspective. And so I think the um, you know,
the one thing is after after we hit the new
year here, we'll have an even better feel for where
we are. We'll be halfway through our schedule, um, and
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then we'll actually have some time um to be on
the practice court, a more consistent time to be on
the practice court with that London trip, um, you know,
prior to the last half of the season. All right, Well,
it's just one more on Gordon. Is it Is it
at all possible that he plays in the playoffs this year? Uh?
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We've we've basically just talked to the staff about him
getting better and and being full till for next year.
So I don't want to, you know, I don't. I
would never put that on him either way, but I
would say that would be really really unlikely. Brad Stevens,
head coach of the Celtics, joining us on the Doug
Otlip Show. You win sixteen row and you said it
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was a mirage because oftentimes you guys were falling behind
and getting away with not playing exactly the way you
want to play. But there is something to the culture
of winning, right. There is something to finding ways to
win games even though you aren't executing the way in
which the coaches intended to the way that probably gives
you the best the best ceiling in the playoffs. That
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there is something to finding ways to win those games. No, yeah,
I think so. I think so. The other part of
it is is that, you know, we played basically a
couple of full games without Kyrie after he had his
um facial fracture. We played a few games without al
in there. Um you know, we've we played a game
this weekend without Jalen. We played some games without Marcus Smart.
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So we've we've had other injuries that that haven't lasted
as long that we've had to have guys step up
and play well. And um, you know, guys have just
been whe thing to take on the next task. I think,
you know, in both of our losses in the last
week Miami and Detroit. Um, you know we could have
done things better, but you know you also have to
tip your tip your cap to the teams you're playing against.
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And Miami played terrific last Wednesday, And I thought Detroit
played as good of a game against us as anybody's
played all year. Brad Stevens, head coach of the Boston Celtics,
showing us on the Doug Olive Show helped me out
with Marcus, Like, I watched him, and I see the
little things he does. But what's amazing is the splits.
Right when you guys lose, he shoots well. Right in
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losses he's shooting from three's average nearly fourteen a game. Like,
he's shooting the ball well. When you guys win, he
shoots terribly from three from the free throw line, Like,
how do you how do you explain that to the
layman fan, that that his his points and his shooting
doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, even
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because the stats be a lot, you should a better
team if he shoots the ball better. Yeah, I'm not
sure that I can explain those. Um that a way,
I guess the only way I'd explained it is We're
in a small sample size, right, UM, But I think
I think the biggest thing, and you said it earlier,
he does so many little things that affects winning. And
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Marcus knows this that Um, I'm sure that you know,
whether it's his high school coaches, college coaches, parents, um,
whatever the case may be. They may believe equal to me,
but nobody believes in him more than I do. Like
I think that he's just a winner. He just impacts winning.
He he cares about team success. Um. He has a
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way about him that I really really appreciate. And I
always believe the next the next play is going to
go right for him, and when the game is really
on the line, I believe it even more when we
saw that last year, um in the playoffs. We saw
it two years ago in the play offs when we
had some injuries and he had to guard millsap Um
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for a half against Atlanta. Like, he just has a
special knack about him. He makes winning plays and you
know a lot of them go unnoticed or certainly don't
appear on a statu sheet. But I really don't get
too caught up in whether he's making shots or not.
It's more about you know, are we as a team
finding the right shots for us and we all believe
that he will step up and make them. Um and uh,
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and he deserves to make him with the time he
puts in. Brad Stevens joining us in the Doug Got
Leaves show. Um. I noticed those first couple of games
of the year that Kyrie wasn't necessarily letting your offense
work for him, that he was still kind of isolating
the guard. And one of the amazing things that you
guys are able to do is create at the end
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of shot clock, uh, the opportunity to hit for him
or whoever to be guarded by, usually the biggest guy
on the floor, Like find the center, that's your best,
that's your best opportunity for a mismatch. And it felt
like he was like his default and we all have
revert to our default. His default was just take it
and make a play, clear everybody out and if help comes,
then kick out for the open pass. What has the
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process been like of getting him integrated into what you
want to do to not get a good shot, but
get the better shot. Um, I don't think that's you know,
first of all, he's been great to be around, he's
been easy to coach, um, And you know, I think
that that us as a team we need to We've
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needed to improve our offense and and thankfully our offense
has steadily improved over the last month. But he's been
terrific the whole time. And I don't think I think
when you have a player of his caliber, and um,
you know, I've been really fortunate. You know, when you
think about getting a chance to coach Isaiah the last
few years and now Kyrie has some of the some
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of the best point guards in the NBA, you kind
of pinch yourself that that you get a chance to
do this. But um, I think it's more about us,
um figuring how to help him rather than him trying to,
you know, come to us. I think we need to
do a better job of making sure that we all
understand how he best can have success. And and you
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know you said it, a lot of teams switch onto al,
especially late, so you do end up with those matchups.
But you know, he's a special offensive player. And and
when you're in coaching, I think one of your the
biggest keys is to try to learn the guys on
your team as quickly as you can. It does take time,
and I think we're still all learning each other a
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little bit. But um, you know it's our job to
help put him in position to help him have his
best success because he can do so many great things. Well,
tell me something you've learned about Kyrie that you frankly
did not know. Don't have to be on the court,
but something you learned about him that you didn't know
for coaching him. You know, I think I knew this,
and certainly you know when you're watching and laying against him.
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I mean we've coached against him in the playoffs to
the last three years, and he's just a really really
hard guy to stop. I didn't realize how good of
a cutter he was, um any any and he has
you know, he showed that at times certainly. But he
has one of the quickest um setups and back cuts
that I've seen. And um, he's got a really special
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ability to get open um and then for him to
be able to stop play under control and make shots
at the level that he does is he's a remarkable player,
that's for sure. No, No, and and and and the
other part is like on those cuts, as quick as
they are, he catches everything right like he doesn't he
And I think that's it's like an underrated part when
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we don't talk about guards and their hands, right, we
always talk about big guys in their hands. But when
he cuts, or when he drives, or how he picks
up the basketball in those incredible finishing shots, he doesn't
seem to bobble the ball ever, Like I'm sure he
does that you see him every day. He does, but
it sure seems like he bobbles it a whole lot
less than everybody else, There's no doubt about it. And
then the finishes are, you know, as unique as any
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guard that I've ever seen. His ability to to finish
with touch with either hand, a variety of ways, um
all around the rim. It's just, you know, again, it's
it's pretty unique. Danny talked about timeline when you guys,
when you guys signed Gordon, when you guys traded for Kyrie,
he was talking about timeline, And I think what we
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all read into that was like, look, this is a
long term build plan, but Tatum appears to be further
along than most of us thought. Jalen Brown appears to
have improved and been further along than most of us thought,
and your team for having eleven new pieces and losing
Gordon Hayward seems to be better. Long Again, I know
this is more results oriented than the process that you
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watch every day. So I guess my question is what
what are what are your reasonable expectations about your club
when we get to the end of the season. Yeah,
I mean, I think here's the Here's the reality is
that Danny Um. Danny has been unbelievable to work for UM,
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as has our ownership group. And and I think though
that that they really have to be in the always
in the in focus of the long view and seeing
where we UM go from here. How do we make
ourselves the best that we can be? UM, Where are
we with regard to the cap five years from now?
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Blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm more focused on
just today, so I haven't even thought about all that stuff.
You know, it's more about okay, the events. But Brad,
you know how it is we watch you, Gordon goes down,
You're like, well, they can't win. They can't win, like
everybody Cancelor can't win, can't compete at the highest level.
And then all of a sudden start beating people like wait,
maybe maybe they are further along. I mean, the Calves
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added a bunch of different pieces, and who knows like
that that never came into your mind as to wait,
maybe we can compete at the top level of this
league this year. All I think about the next game, Doug.
And I know that sounds crazy, and I know it
sounds just like a coach is um. But I've gone
into every game my whole career with the emphasis of, Okay,
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how do we prepare ourselves best to give ourselves the
best chance of winning this game? And I think that
you've you've you've played, you've coached, you've been around it
your whole life. You go into every game thinking that
you can win the next possession, and then if you
add all those up, you can win the game. And
but I also think that's how you got to go
about it when it's all on the line, you know,
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in April, May and June and and you know, I
think we've made strides over the last couple of years, obviously,
but we're a brand new team and we'll see, we'll
see what what we look like when it's all said
and done. You know, this is no no NBA team
has ever been judged based on what they've done through
twenty two games. So we've got we've got a long
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way to go to find out if we're if we're
good or not. Yeah, I and the champion, the the
November Championship Trophy is in the mail. I know that's
a big one, right They They put that alongside the
seventeen other actual NBA titles in Boston Garden. But you
did you did win it. In the meantime, can't wait
to catch hap in person. Appreciate you stopping by and
enjoying us on Fox Sports Radio. All right, take care.
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Guess who's not starting at quarterback for the g Men.
Find out now as we bring in Dan Bayer. Dan
what he got for me? Well, Doug, It is breaking
news in the National Football League. The Giants announced that
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Eli Manning will not start Week thirteen against the Raiders. Instead,
it's Geno Smith who will be the team starting quarterback,
ending Manning's consecutive start streak at two d and ten games.
It should be noted that Manning was given the option
to start Week thirteen against the Raiders, but was told
by head coach Ben McAdoo that he would not finish
the game, that the team did want to see rookie
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quarterback Davis Webb and also Gino Smith in action. Manning said, Hey,
if you're going to give the guys an opportunity to play,
you might as will give them the practice reps as well.
So Eli Manning is going to the bench for Week thirteen,
ending a streak of two consecutive starts. As the measure,
the Giants have the Raiders coming up on Sunday. On Thursday,
the Redskins will face the Dallas Cowboys and Redskins tedant
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Jordan Reid didn't practice again today because of a kneat injury.
The Niners have the Bears on Wednesday. Excuse me on Sunday.
It's on Wednesday that the team is expected to announce
their starting quarterback for the game, either a bang up C. J.
Bethard or Jimmy Garoppolo. Speaking of injuries, Clippers forward Blake
Griffin could miss two months of action with the knee
injury Griffin sprain. As mc album last night's game against
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the Lakers. It's ESPN to put out the two month timetable.
Kevin Durant and Steph Curry practice today for the Warriors,
but both are questionable for Tomorrow's game against the Lakers.
The Yankee schedule to interview Carlos Beltron for their managerial vacancy.
He just won a World Series with the Astros then retired.
He was the sixth person to interview for that job.
But again the Big News Giants benching Eli Manning almost
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at his request, Doug and instead going with you, you you know,
Smith to start Sunday against the Raiders. Okay, can can
I I mean, can we dial back? Dan? You were there? Ryan?
You were there as well? Um and get well suoned
John Ramos, who's battling a cold. I always love when
we're fighting a cold. No one actually fights anything anyway, Um,
but didn't like. We were five games in the season
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and they had lost Adell Beckham Jr. And I said, hey,
they should trade him to the Jaguars because the Jaguars
need a quarterback. The Jaguars are basically run uh by
not basically they are run by his former coach, Tom Coughlin.
And you know, at the end of the year they're
going to be considering a quarterback change anyway and trying
to get younger and see what they got, Like, why
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not start that that process? I did say that was
sometimes you think things and you didn't You didn't say
and be like, now you didn't say that, Doug. I
did say that right then, Yes, you did, absolutely And
the end, by the way, you got some flak for it.
And then a few weeks later other people were saying,
why don't the Jaguars trade for Eli Manning? So I
think it was was it D'Angelo Williams who joined us,
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who said, that's crazy, that will never happen music you
you recall you write the show notes, don't you. Yeah,
it was D'Angelo Williams, because his point was that it's
not so much that Eli is done and he can't
play anymore, but behind their poor offensive line, which has
gotten moderately better, but it was so bad at the
beginning of the year. He said, he that's wold be
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the coment about like put that dog down? Like if
you no one could play behind their offensive line given
their weapons. And it wasn't just on he I don't
I don't dispute that. I think the same thing in
San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo. But at least the Niners understand, like, hey, dude,
we're playing for next year in the year after that, right,
I mean, that's this is kind of sports in two
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thousand and seventeen, Like, and you have a I mean, look,
you don't just trade him to trade him, and normally
you wouldn't want to send him to je Backxonville, but
Jacksonville has got a good team and their quarterback away
and oh yeah, by the way, Jacksonville's run by his
former head coach, Like all of that made total sense
to be And now they're stuck with Eli Manning, who
I'm sure is pissed right, Like it sounds like the
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gentleman thing to do, Like are you gonna pull me
on anyway? Why don't you let those guys start? Like
you think that start streak doesn't mean something to him?
Of course it does. Of course it does. I would
think much less of Eli Manning if it doesn't. Now
he may he'll never say publicly that it matters to him,
but it absolutely means something Dome. So he's got the
(28:36):
second longest start streak in the history of the National
Football League, and he's like, yeah, you know you're gonna
play replace me anyway, Why don't you just pull me
his quote. Dug in a statement said, my feeling is
that if you're going to play the other guys, play
them starting just to keep the streak going and knowing
you won't finish the game and have a chance to win.
To have a chance to win, it is pointless to me,
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and it tarnishes the streets. Um, you know, I I
missed fascinating, fascinating to watch the Giants right, and I
don't like. Look, I don't blame the Geno Smith. Thing
is like you want to talk about a guy just
getting a shot because he's a veteran, and that you're
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not even then you're not really going to get a
sense of Davis Webb. Like I get it. Gino's Gino
has been in New York, Gino started games. Gino is
drafted by the Jets. You brought him as a free agent.
I'm sure he's done all of the right things, but
like when the point to figure out if Davis Webb
can play? All right, so prepare Davis Webb like he's
(29:39):
the starter and let's see how he plays. With those
scripted plays to start the game. Fascinating, fascinating. Be sure
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. The other
two teams competing for as of today, that last playoff
(30:00):
spot the Seahawks and the Falcons. And I think everyone
knew outside of the devastating injuries to Richard Sherman and
to Cam Chancellor, everyone knew that the Seahawks biggest issue
was their offensive line, and to solidify that offensive line,
they made a midseason trade for Pro Bowl or Dwayne
Brown with the Houston Texans, who joins us now on
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Dwayne,
(30:21):
congrats on the win this past weekend. How are you?
I'm good. How you guys doing good? Man? Okay, So
let's let's go back too when you're in Houston. H
take me through your decision to hold out, because I
think before you came back to the team um early
on their offensive line. The Texans offensive line was a disaster.
(30:41):
And everybody's like Dwayne Brown's rolling in the money. And
then Deshaun Watson comes in and they change the offense,
and you weren't as as readily discussed. What take me
back through that decision to sit out to get a
new contract and what it was like watching your team play. Um,
you know what happened, Houston. I mean, you know, we
just couldn't get on the same page. Um. You know,
(31:05):
as as you know, as a competitor, as a guy
that loves the game, you know, it was it was
tough to be away from from the sport, from our craft,
from my teammates. Um, but it was a business decision,
you know. And I think, Um, at the end of
the day, we we we mutually decided that it was
best that you know, not be there. And I think, um,
you know, no hard feelings I think on on either side.
(31:27):
And you know, I worked out. I want to get
to Seattle obviously, and I want to get to what
you're doing charity wise this week. But but I can't
help but ask you. Obviously, you took a you took
affordable stance against what brob Bob mcdair was leaked to
have said in a private meeting. How much of them
treating you was that, how much of it was based
(31:47):
upon Uh, the fact you couldn't you couldn't come to
terms with the new salary. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure how much you know that I had to do
with it. Um. Obviously you know what was said something
I don't agree with, and um, you know I was
vocal about it. Uh you know, so uh, I'm not
sure how much I had to do with it. You know,
(32:08):
I can only tell you how I felt on my end,
and UM, you know I was. I was. I stand
by what I said and how I felt about it.
So um, like I said, but there's still no hard
feelings there. You know, I got nothing but left everyone
in Houston. I had a great nine years there. I
had a lot of success there individually and as a team.
So um, I'm happy at the time I spent there. Okay,
(32:29):
so you arrive in Seattle, what was your perception of
the Seahawks? Having ever never played like you guys played
against the Seahawks earlier this year, what was your What
was your perception of the Seahawks as an outsider. I
always had a huge amount of respect for the organization.
You know, obviously They've had a lot of success, been
a Super Bowls one, Super Bowls, a lot of division titles,
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you know, and and just the culture in the locker
room here. I've always had a lot of respect for
the guys and and the way that they go about
their business and how they treat each other, you know,
So being able to play against them the Sunday before
I got here, you know, you just you know, it's
obviously a hard fark game, very close game. Um, you know,
a lot of excitement, you know, and to be here
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just a couple of days later. Everyone had a lot
of respect, you know for me and everything I've done
in my career. And then the fielding was mutual, so
it was it was very easy transition. And the guys
embraced me immediately. Yeah, they embraced you, and you were
in a position where everyone need you. On the other hand,
like look now, all a sudden, there's some shuffling with
the offensive line, Like how do you handle that? How
do you You've only been in one place. You go
(33:33):
to a new locker room with a new line, and
everybody I think in football knew that they had had
some issues with that line. Um, what did you do
to ingratiate yourself with this new with the with the
new offensive line group that did need you, But you're
still taking somebody's job moving guys around. Um, I think
the guys in office the line. You know, it's a
(33:53):
very very young group, so uh. You know, they obviously
you know, watched me throughout the years and and all.
Like I said, I had a lot of respect for
what I've done, and you know, the way I go
about my business. Um, you know, I came in very humbly, humbling, humbling, um,
and you know, I just went about trying to get
getting on him. You know, I was I was very
(34:13):
familiar with the system. You know, I spent a lot
of time with it when I was a coach Kobayak,
So that was a pretty easy transition there and just
getting some recall and learn the terminology. And you know,
once they saw, you know, how I worked and how
I went about my business, you know, it was it
was pretty easy. You know. And but as a as
as I was a line, it's all about chemistry. It's
all about continuity. So we're still learning to to build that,
(34:36):
you know. And and Lubajoco came back last week, and
this is my first time playing with him next to
each other, so you know, it's still a work in progress,
but we're doing pretty good. Yeah, And and like, look,
you guys are kind of throwing into the fire now.
Now you've got a couple of weeks, but you get
Luke back, and you get the Philadelphi Egos, who many
regard as, if not the best front seven in the
conversation of best front seven. Isn't this a great kind
(34:56):
of litmus test for exactly where you guys are as
a group? Absolutely, Um, you know you want to compete
against the best, and Philly's playing the best football, best
football in the league right now. So um, as a unit,
we were all looking forward toward the talent, you know,
and we got him at home, you know, so, um
that that will help us out some. You know, I
think we've got a good plan for them going into it. Um,
(35:18):
but it's just a huge test. We're gonna have to
get some good work in this week. And you know
they're they're the best team right now, you know. So
it's why not Why wouldn't you want to play against
a group like that? Um? You um, you know really
you know all too well about diabetes and and what
it can do to your family, your your mom and
your grandma, right, both type two. Yeah, and and this
(35:41):
has caused you, I mean you're a I mean you
play a major role as an ambassador for the American
Diabetes Association. UM. Yeah, and looks some of it is hereditary,
some of it is diet base. What what should we
know about diabetes that we don't that that most I
think most common Americans don't know. I think it's uh,
(36:03):
like you said, some of it, A lot of it
is diet based, you know. And and um, I think
in our culture, especially in the African American community, a
lot of the foods that we eat that we've come
to know and love, you know, the quote unquote comfort
foods and things like that. Um, it carry a lot
of things that can you know, destroy your body, you know,
over time. And I think, uh, for me, just watching
(36:24):
how it's reachs havoc, you know, in my family and
then in the country overall, I think I just wanted
to bring some more awareness to it. Um. You know,
I became an ambassador with the American b Association and
we created the UH Team Tackle Initiative a couple of
years ago, where we went to Congress, you know, and
and propose different ideas to them on how to bring
more awareness and and try to find a cure for it. Um.
(36:48):
So I think just being conscious of it, you know,
I think people going to chestas see if you're prone
to it, UH is a huge step in in living
your life the right way and trying to avoid it.
Dwayne Brown joining US Pro Bowl left tackle for the
Seattle Seahawks getting ready take on the Philadelphia Eagles. He's
an ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. Of course, this
is Mike Cleets My Cause weekend. So what do cleets
(37:11):
for the A B A? What what are What are
those cleats gonna look like? They're pretty cool? Man? Um,
They're there are colors are like red and white and
and um and black, so you know they're kind of read.
You know, you have the their logo in it with
the American d W Association in it. Um, I'm going
to post a pitcher on my Instagram and on Twitter
at Dwayne Brown seventy six, um to show the world
(37:35):
kind of what they look like. And you know, like
I said, so what they're about and and what the
ADA is all about, and um, I think it's pretty cool.
I'm glad the NFL is doing this and this is
my first year UM being involved in it, so I'm
looking forward to it. Helped me out with this. UM.
Look Russell Wilson sometimes he's back there. He seems like
his drops are the deepest drops in the NFL. And
(37:56):
then some of the plays he makes and the scrambles
he makes, it's like, how do you how do you
do your job when you've played with you played with
obviously a bunch of different quarterbacks in Houston, some good,
some and some Ryan Mollots, and you know, it's like
you all over the map. So I guess my question
is like, how does your job and what you do
change when you're playing with Russell? It's it's a bit
(38:17):
of an adjustment, you know, having a guy that scrambles,
you know the way he does. UM. You know, you
first and foremost you just want to do your job,
get to your spot and and try to shut guys down. UM.
At the same time, you don't really know where he
might be UM, so you just try to avoid holding calls,
you know what I know, once he gets out of
the pocket, it's going to be hard for guys to
(38:38):
catch him before he gets ut of the ball or
breaks along the scrimmage and get downfield. Um, you know
it's it's not it's not difficult for me. You know,
I still operate the same way, but just try to
be aware that you know, he may you know, run
right past me, right or left, you know, at any
given moment. Uh. And the plays he makes is just incredible.
He's a he's a phenomenal player and just very exciting,
(39:00):
you know, and it's it's pretty cool to have a
guy like that it's it's about for He's also got
a really good probably next to Aaron Rodgers. He's got
the second best hard count in the league. Is that
that that fair? I'd say? So okay. So I mean like, look,
you're you're big fella, and you know you're getting ready
to do your job. You're going to kind of your drop.
You think about dropping that left leg, but you gotta
(39:21):
worry about his hard count? Like are you are you
talking to yourself? Like it's on two, it's on two.
It's like how do you? How do you what's what's
your process of making sure you don't jump on that
hard count? I keep the counting in my head. You know,
as you have to approach line, you know, you kind
of get a feel for the defense on what's going on.
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You make your calls and then you remind yourself, okay,
that's on too. You know, you might try to, you know,
communicate to the guy next to you the same thing,
because you know, when you're making those calls, you can
kind of lose sight of the cadence. And uh, he
makes you believe it. He makes you believe that it's coming,
you know, so you just try to eat that in
the back of your mind throughout the whole Pretna reads, Yeah, listen,
(40:04):
he's he's pretty amazing at it. And not jumping is
a lot harder than than it looks like. You're sitting
there watching on TV and you almost get jumpie with
the hard acount. Dwyane, Listen, Uh, this is a this
is a great My my dad had type two diabetes
until he died. I know your family has been greatly affected,
but by really appreciate what you're doing to bring awareness
to this disease. And best of luck against philadelp Eagles
on Sunday Night Football. Appreciated. Thanks you got for having me.
(40:27):
All right. It's Dwayne Brown of the uh Seattle Seahawks,
so weird did not say, Houston Texans, right, super strange.
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The Giants are not going to start Manning, Okay, gotta
(40:48):
take a look at somebody else, right, gotta see him
against live bullets. And oh yeah, by the way, this
is tanking without calling it tanking, right, I don't care
how good Davis Webb is. You have a better chance
of winning with Eli Manning as your quarterback because he's
(41:08):
Eli Manning for a reason. But if your Giants, you're
at two and nine and you're competing with the Niners
who are threatening to play Jimmy Garoppolo, the Bears who
are three and eight, the Browns who are oh and
eleven and quickly working towards oh and sixteen, Like you
(41:29):
gotta protect your draft position. And I love this. I like,
we're not trying to lose, We're trying to play young.
How does young usually work out? Not so much. But
they want to take a look at David's Webb. That
makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the fact that
they're first going to take a look at Geno Smith.
(41:52):
So what does it say about about Ben mcadoo's job status.
I mean, this is not a decision that Ben McAdoo
plays into. They've either told him, he already knows he's gone,
And the question is you know easy way or hard way?
Hey man, you want to do this easy way of
(42:12):
the hard way or kind of like Todd Bowles. They
know they're down, but he's their guy and they're gonna
give him another year. But you gotta work with him
here in his last couple of games the year. Let
them work through the roster and see what they like
and what they don't like. And how are you ever
going to tell if you need a quarterback if you
don't play all of the quarterbacks on your roster. So
(42:38):
I have no idea of McAdoo. My guess is that
you think McAdoo is gone, Except you have to know
the Giants organization. They are really, really slow to pull
the trigger. I mean, if you remember, Tom Coughlin should
have been fired two or three years before he actually
was fired. First, they had Steve Spagnola who came back
as a defensive coordineer. He was bad. They had Perry Fuel,
(43:00):
he was bad. They changed offensive coordinators as well. That's
when they brought in Also, that's when they brought in McAdoo.
Was they change changed offensive coordinators, and then the thought was, hey,
the offense is fixed. We've been able to fix and
get more life out of Eli Manning. Let's fix the defense.
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They did that going back to two off seasons ago.
But in the offensive line broke down. Odell Beckham Jr.
Was never healthy. They haven't established a running game, and frankly,
they just aren't good enough pieces on offense to even
make it formidable at all. And I think that that
Eli falling on his sword saying, look, you're gonna pull
(43:42):
me anyway, why even start me? Is it is an
admirable point. It makes this starting Gina Smith even more peculiar.
I like it. I liken it again. Um, I like
him again. To senior night. I see to night in
high school basketball. You know these guys like, put Jimmy in,
(44:05):
put Jimmy in, put Jimmy in. Finally, the coaches like,
you know, we're gonna start Jimmy on senior nights of
those idiot idiot friends of his will stop chanting. But um,
what we all thought would happen to tom Brady appears
to be close to happening with Eli Manning. Remember tom
Brady's dad thought he'd finished somewhere else. There's always thoughts
(44:27):
that he'd finished Babe for the San Francisco forty Niners
because he grew up a Niners fan. Not Troy hack
been finished with but he finished really because of concussion.
Brett Farve didn't be Farv went to the uh Jets first,
then to the Vikings for a couple of years. Tony
Romo chose to go to broadcasting, but that was only
(44:50):
because the number one chair at CBS came available. Otherwise
he'd be in Houston, he'd be in Denver and those
you between. Kansas City appears to have its air parents,
so too does so too does Houston. But if you
can get Eli for a year in Denver, where his
brother has been successful, doesn't that make a lot of sense?
(45:14):
Jacksonville makes a lot of sense. The same trade that
was viable a month and a half ago before the
trade deadline, it's probably gonna be viable, um once we
get to the off season.
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Brad Stevens, head coach of the first place Celtics, who
did lose last night, so I do not take credit.
Is not a Gottlie curse. If you lose the night
before you join me. Of course we will grant him
a win in his next game. But Brad Stevens will
(01:25):
join us upcoming in fifteen minutes here on the program,
we have a lot to get to. Let's begin with
Monday Night football and so ends an incredibly boring weekend
in the National Football League, but it ends with Joe
Flacco winning. Joe Flacco one, hey, one, um, Look, I
(01:51):
don't know how many times we can do this in
different ways and different sports. But if you keep asking
the same question and you aren't getting the answer that
you feel like is appropriate, you know that the tough answer,
the hard answer, is in fact the hard truth. Remember
a couple of years ago and Joe Flacco before he
(02:11):
won a Super bowls is Joe Flacco elite? Should Joe
Flacco get elite money? And of course he led the
Ravens to a Super Bowl? And I'll be the first
admit that Joe is uh even more than Jeter. Like Derek,
Jeter gets credit for being a great clutch player. What
Derek Jeter was able to do is be the same
player in the postseason he was in the regular season.
(02:32):
Like the stats are eerily similar, and in many ways,
I would rather be seen as clutch than good, right,
Like Robert Ory is not one of the great power
forwards of all time. But damn it sure seemed like
he made a lot of big shots, didn't it. And
the indelible image of the Super Bowl, and of course
(02:53):
our knowledge that he cashed in. He he put his
reputation on the line, he cashed in on winning a
championship strikes me as among the most memorable parts of
that super run. Sure it was ray Lewis, but the
fact is ray Lewis hurt more than helped the Ravens
on the field that they went at him, not away
(03:14):
from him. Sure it was the blackout game to which
Colin Kaepernick and the Niners nearly came from behind, and
one albeit they were not able to score on a
fade pattern, something he doesn't throw well and which is
completed at a very low rate. But the biggest story
from the Baltimore Ravens winning the Super Bowl a couple
(03:35):
years ago was Joe Flacco is the elite. And if
the the if the initial answer or the answer that's
repeatedly given doesn't seem to measure up, it's because the
hard answer is the true answer. Now, do I think
that Joe Flacco has gotten worse? I actually do member
He suffered a debilitating a c L injury. Remember he
(03:58):
had a bad back to start the year. He is
not surrounded by nearly the talent he has been surrounded
by in the past. They don't have a running game
to speak of, they don't have Steve smith Um. There
have been plenty of players that have come and gone
and offensive coordinators that have that have come and gone.
(04:18):
But the fact is that we keep trying to think
this narrative of Joe Flacco having won a Listen, he
won a super Bowl. Hey, listen, he want a super Bowl.
And I don't think that puts him in the trend
deal for just hand the ball off and manage the
clock game manager mode. But if you want to tell
me Joe Flacco is elite, that's fine. I have enough
data now to prove that you're wrong. It doesn't mean
(04:38):
that he's a bad guy. It doesn't mean that he's
a horrible player. It doesn't mean that he should be
embarrassed to show himself in public, but can we be
honest he's just okay, and just okay is probably over
selling it. He's probably getting that super Bowl pass. And
(04:58):
that's what you get. You would this World Series. You
get a World Series pass, you win a college football championship,
you get a college football pass, you win an NBA championship,
We'll give you an NBA Championship pass. When the truth
is that Joe Flacco has been mostly the same guy
(05:20):
his entire career, and that is just not that in
an elite quarterback that's of mostly an average quarterback and
even some below average quarterback. Here Joe Flacco on his
team's chances to make the Super Bowl. We want to
win the super Bowl. I've been as lead long enough
to know if you don't win the super Bowl, it
(05:40):
doesn't mean anything. And if we believe we can win
the super Bowl with how we're playing right now, I'm
all for it, I really am. But I mean, you guys,
can you know we can all take a look at
that and say that probably not super realistic. We need
to go out there and we need to go get it.
And we need to be better on our side of
the ball and work for that time. And look, he
says and does all the right things. He is not
a problem off the football field. He's not even a problem.
(06:04):
He's not a problem in the locker room. And I
would say that his general statistics are better than his
stats this year, which nine touchdowns and eleven interceptions. That's
his actual stats this year. But here we are in
the era where everybody should throw for three thousand occasionally
four thousand. He did throw for four thousand yards last year,
(06:25):
but that's because they were not a good team. Fifteen
picks last year. He's generally about a twenty to twenty
five touchdown guy, a ten to fifteen interception guy. That's
what he is. He is average Joe. He is just
average Joe Flacco. And this year he's been slightly below average.
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He's throwing shorter crossing routes. He's not challenging people deep
down the field. Some of that is the personnel that's
around him. Some of that is the fact they don't
have a running game, but some of that is Joe Flacco.
When people kept asking is the elite is the elite?
Is the elite and and the answer never really satisfied you.
It's because the hard answer was no, he's not. But
(07:09):
it's hard to say that somebody who want a super Bowl,
somebody has performed better than expected in the playoffs isn't
considered an elite quarterback. Like we get onto, there's some
similarities there did Eli Manning, who of course has won
two Super Bowls. Where Eli has been good or better
at times in the playoffs than his reputation the regular season.
(07:33):
Eli never gets hurt, doesn't miss, doesn't miss the start,
throws her about the same number yards, throws for slightly
more touchdowns. Eli is a slightly better quarterback than Joe Flacco.
But there's we we almost paid too much attention to
the postseason with Flacco limited sample size, quality, coaching staff,
and the fact that playing with the Ravens he's always
(07:56):
been in the playoffs. So kind of like Jeter, he's
been able to a crew a lot, a lot more
UH playoff games, and the more playoff games, the more
playoffs success that you can have. And to be totally honest,
in most of those playoff games they have a dominant
defense and dominant running game, and so Joe Flacco doesn't
(08:17):
have to be great, doesn't have to carry a team,
but the elite of all elite can carry their football team.
And Flacco is just not that guy, and especially now
within this offense. So this is I give this advice
to guys all the time. I give it to Ryan Music,
(08:39):
who has been dating his girlfriend for over a year now, right, Music,
that's correct. Did you ever get the reinvite to the
second Hawaii Trippers that ship sailed? No, I have been
the formal invitation has been resubmitted, and I have accepted.
Good good, good man. And look, I'm not gonna put
you on the spot, not at least now. But you know,
(09:02):
once you've been with a girl six months to a
year and and somebody asks you like, are you in love?
Is she the one? And you're like, I don't know.
It's because you know what the answer is. You know
what the answer is, and the reason you don't want
to give the honest answer, which is if it's not yes,
(09:23):
absolutely is probably not because then you have to go
back at first thing. You have to break your girl's
heart or she has to break your heart, however it works,
and then you gotta start all over and go through
the process, and even that's not probably like I'm better
off just staying here. Maybe I'll feel it sometimes too. Like, dude,
(09:43):
if you don't feel it six months or year in,
you ain't gonna feel it. Be sure to catch live
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the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in the head
coach of the team with the best record, still the
best record in the NBA, even after last night's lost
to the Pistons, as Brad Stevens of the Seas He
joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. Brad, how are you, hi, Doug?
(10:06):
How are you doing good? Man? Um, Let's let's start
at the beginning. Gordon Heyward goes down in the first
quarter of your first game, and like, look, there's there's
far more tragic events that, um, you also don't prepare
yourself for. But for as a coach, you have eleven
new players and a lot of the hype is surrounding
not just Kyrie but Gordon. Um, what did you draw on,
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Like what level of of preparation could you drawn in
order to kind of reconfigure your team? As you were
still figuring out your team when you lost Gordon the
first quarter of your first game. Well, I think there's
a couple of layers to that, right. The first one
is the emotional loss not only for you know, for
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for him, but how you feel for him, um, because
you know that he obviously you know, this was a
hard decision for him to come to Boston and to
choose to come here and choose to play with this team,
and for it to really be taken away in the
first six minutes of the season is really difficult. And
there's a lot of challenges that come every day with um,
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you know, the with going through rehab versus going through
and having a scoreboard and competing in the games. And
but he's doing he's doing really well and all of that.
And and when we when we learned that um, he
was gonna be able to make a full recovery and
he chose surgery and the surgery went great, and he
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started that process, I think it was um, you know,
an opportunity for us all to say, okay, now, how
do we maximize this. The hard part in the NBA
is the lack of practice time. We haven't hardly had
any practices since the start of the season, because we
basically played every other day for the last thirty six days.
And and so what we've done is we've tried to
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you know, UM, you know, walk through by walk through,
meeting by meeting, UM talk about how we can be
a little bit better and play a little bit better.
And you know, we've had a lot of guys step
up and and and play UM well in his absence
or others absences when we've had other injuries thus far.
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Your schedule is interesting because you know, like the Lakers
had like four days off before playing last night, and
your schedule continues with this, like like you played last night,
now you do have a couple of days before you played. Yeah,
and and then after that it goes back to the
either one day off or you're you're playing on back
to backs yet again, like it feels like maybe that's
the curse of being good and people want to see
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you on TV. Yeah, and probably and and and the
other thing that's unique about our schedule this year as
we go to London, so there's a big break in
the middle of January when you're traveling to and from
London in the days off and recovering and everything else.
So you you have other you know, times of your
schedule that are jammed up. But that's okay. You can
you can manage that a pro brittlely. Um. The bottom
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line is you just can't practice very often because, um,
you know you're gonna need everything you've got to play
in the games. Um, you know, from a physical and
mental perspective. And so I think the um, you know,
the one thing is after after we hit the new
year here, we'll have an even better feel for where
we are. We'll be halfway through our schedule, um, and
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then we'll actually have some time um to be on
the practice court, a more consistent time to be on
the practice court with that London trip, um, you know,
prior to the last half of the season. All right, Well,
it's just one more on Gordon. Is it Is it
at all possible that he plays in the playoffs this year? Uh?
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We've we've basically just talked to the staff about him
getting better and and being full till for next year.
So I don't want to, you know, I don't. I
would never put that on him either way, but I
would say that would be really really unlikely. Brad Stevens,
head coach of the Celtics, joining us on the Doug
Otlip Show. You win sixteen row and you said it
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was a mirage because oftentimes you guys were falling behind
and getting away with not playing exactly the way you
want to play. But there is something to the culture
of winning, right. There is something to finding ways to
win games even though you aren't executing the way in
which the coaches intended to the way that probably gives
you the best the best ceiling in the playoffs. That
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there is something to finding ways to win those games. No, yeah,
I think so. I think so. The other part of
it is is that, you know, we played basically a
couple of full games without Kyrie after he had his
um facial fracture. We played a few games without al
in there. Um you know, we've we played a game
this weekend without Jalen. We played some games without Marcus Smart.
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So we've we've had other injuries that that haven't lasted
as long that we've had to have guys step up
and play well. And um, you know, guys have just
been whe thing to take on the next task. I think,
you know, in both of our losses in the last
week Miami and Detroit. Um, you know we could have
done things better, but you know you also have to
tip your tip your cap to the teams you're playing against.
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And Miami played terrific last Wednesday, And I thought Detroit
played as good of a game against us as anybody's
played all year. Brad Stevens, head coach of the Boston Celtics,
showing us on the Doug Olive Show helped me out
with Marcus, Like, I watched him, and I see the
little things he does. But what's amazing is the splits.
Right when you guys lose, he shoots well. Right in
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losses he's shooting from three's average nearly fourteen a game. Like,
he's shooting the ball well. When you guys win, he
shoots terribly from three from the free throw line, Like,
how do you how do you explain that to the
layman fan, that that his his points and his shooting
doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, even
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because the stats be a lot, you should a better
team if he shoots the ball better. Yeah, I'm not
sure that I can explain those. Um that a way,
I guess the only way I'd explained it is We're
in a small sample size, right, UM, But I think
I think the biggest thing, and you said it earlier,
he does so many little things that affects winning. And
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Marcus knows this that Um, I'm sure that you know,
whether it's his high school coaches, college coaches, parents, um,
whatever the case may be. They may believe equal to me,
but nobody believes in him more than I do. Like
I think that he's just a winner. He just impacts winning.
He he cares about team success. Um. He has a
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way about him that I really really appreciate. And I
always believe the next the next play is going to
go right for him, and when the game is really
on the line, I believe it even more when we
saw that last year, um in the playoffs. We saw
it two years ago in the play offs when we
had some injuries and he had to guard millsap Um
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for a half against Atlanta. Like, he just has a
special knack about him. He makes winning plays and you
know a lot of them go unnoticed or certainly don't
appear on a statu sheet. But I really don't get
too caught up in whether he's making shots or not.
It's more about you know, are we as a team
finding the right shots for us and we all believe
that he will step up and make them. Um and uh,
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and he deserves to make him with the time he
puts in. Brad Stevens joining us in the Doug Got
Leaves show. Um. I noticed those first couple of games
of the year that Kyrie wasn't necessarily letting your offense
work for him, that he was still kind of isolating
the guard. And one of the amazing things that you
guys are able to do is create at the end
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of shot clock, uh, the opportunity to hit for him
or whoever to be guarded by, usually the biggest guy
on the floor, Like find the center, that's your best,
that's your best opportunity for a mismatch. And it felt
like he was like his default and we all have
revert to our default. His default was just take it
and make a play, clear everybody out and if help comes,
then kick out for the open pass. What has the
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process been like of getting him integrated into what you
want to do to not get a good shot, but
get the better shot. Um, I don't think that's you know,
first of all, he's been great to be around, he's
been easy to coach, um, And you know, I think
that that us as a team we need to We've
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needed to improve our offense and and thankfully our offense
has steadily improved over the last month. But he's been
terrific the whole time. And I don't think I think
when you have a player of his caliber, and um,
you know, I've been really fortunate. You know, when you
think about getting a chance to coach Isaiah the last
few years and now Kyrie has some of the some
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of the best point guards in the NBA, you kind
of pinch yourself that that you get a chance to
do this. But um, I think it's more about us,
um figuring how to help him rather than him trying to,
you know, come to us. I think we need to
do a better job of making sure that we all
understand how he best can have success. And and you
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know you said it, a lot of teams switch onto al,
especially late, so you do end up with those matchups.
But you know, he's a special offensive player. And and
when you're in coaching, I think one of your the
biggest keys is to try to learn the guys on
your team as quickly as you can. It does take time,
and I think we're still all learning each other a
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little bit. But um, you know it's our job to
help put him in position to help him have his
best success because he can do so many great things. Well,
tell me something you've learned about Kyrie that you frankly
did not know. Don't have to be on the court,
but something you learned about him that you didn't know
for coaching him. You know, I think I knew this,
and certainly you know when you're watching and laying against him.
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I mean we've coached against him in the playoffs to
the last three years, and he's just a really really
hard guy to stop. I didn't realize how good of
a cutter he was, um any any and he has
you know, he showed that at times certainly. But he
has one of the quickest um setups and back cuts
that I've seen. And um, he's got a really special
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ability to get open um and then for him to
be able to stop play under control and make shots
at the level that he does is he's a remarkable player,
that's for sure. No, No, and and and and the
other part is like on those cuts, as quick as
they are, he catches everything right like he doesn't he
And I think that's it's like an underrated part when
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we don't talk about guards and their hands, right, we
always talk about big guys in their hands. But when
he cuts, or when he drives, or how he picks
up the basketball in those incredible finishing shots, he doesn't
seem to bobble the ball ever, Like I'm sure he
does that you see him every day. He does, but
it sure seems like he bobbles it a whole lot
less than everybody else, There's no doubt about it. And
then the finishes are, you know, as unique as any
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guard that I've ever seen. His ability to to finish
with touch with either hand, a variety of ways, um
all around the rim. It's just, you know, again, it's
it's pretty unique. Danny talked about timeline when you guys,
when you guys signed Gordon, when you guys traded for Kyrie,
he was talking about timeline, And I think what we
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all read into that was like, look, this is a
long term build plan, but Tatum appears to be further
along than most of us thought. Jalen Brown appears to
have improved and been further along than most of us thought,
and your team for having eleven new pieces and losing
Gordon Hayward seems to be better. Long Again, I know
this is more results oriented than the process that you
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watch every day. So I guess my question is what
what are what are your reasonable expectations about your club
when we get to the end of the season. Yeah,
I mean, I think here's the Here's the reality is
that Danny Um. Danny has been unbelievable to work for UM,
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as has our ownership group. And and I think though
that that they really have to be in the always
in the in focus of the long view and seeing
where we UM go from here. How do we make
ourselves the best that we can be? UM, Where are
we with regard to the cap five years from now?
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Blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm more focused on
just today, so I haven't even thought about all that stuff.
You know, it's more about okay, the events. But Brad,
you know how it is we watch you, Gordon goes down,
You're like, well, they can't win. They can't win, like
everybody Cancelor can't win, can't compete at the highest level.
And then all of a sudden start beating people like wait,
maybe maybe they are further along. I mean, the Calves
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added a bunch of different pieces, and who knows like
that that never came into your mind as to wait,
maybe we can compete at the top level of this
league this year. All I think about the next game, Doug.
And I know that sounds crazy, and I know it
sounds just like a coach is um. But I've gone
into every game my whole career with the emphasis of, Okay,
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how do we prepare ourselves best to give ourselves the
best chance of winning this game? And I think that
you've you've you've played, you've coached, you've been around it
your whole life. You go into every game thinking that
you can win the next possession, and then if you
add all those up, you can win the game. And
but I also think that's how you got to go
about it when it's all on the line, you know,
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in April, May and June and and you know, I
think we've made strides over the last couple of years, obviously,
but we're a brand new team and we'll see, we'll
see what what we look like when it's all said
and done. You know, this is no no NBA team
has ever been judged based on what they've done through
twenty two games. So we've got we've got a long
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way to go to find out if we're if we're
good or not. Yeah, I and the champion, the the
November Championship Trophy is in the mail. I know that's
a big one, right They They put that alongside the
seventeen other actual NBA titles in Boston Garden. But you
did you did win it. In the meantime, can't wait
to catch hap in person. Appreciate you stopping by and
enjoying us on Fox Sports Radio. All right, take care.
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Guess who's not starting at quarterback for the g Men.
Find out now as we bring in Dan Bayer. Dan
what he got for me? Well, Doug, It is breaking
news in the National Football League. The Giants announced that
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Eli Manning will not start Week thirteen against the Raiders. Instead,
it's Geno Smith who will be the team starting quarterback,
ending Manning's consecutive start streak at two d and ten games.
It should be noted that Manning was given the option
to start Week thirteen against the Raiders, but was told
by head coach Ben McAdoo that he would not finish
the game, that the team did want to see rookie
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quarterback Davis Webb and also Gino Smith in action. Manning said, Hey,
if you're going to give the guys an opportunity to play,
you might as will give them the practice reps as well.
So Eli Manning is going to the bench for Week thirteen,
ending a streak of two consecutive starts. As the measure,
the Giants have the Raiders coming up on Sunday. On Thursday,
the Redskins will face the Dallas Cowboys and Redskins tedant
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Jordan Reid didn't practice again today because of a kneat injury.
The Niners have the Bears on Wednesday. Excuse me on Sunday.
It's on Wednesday that the team is expected to announce
their starting quarterback for the game, either a bang up C. J.
Bethard or Jimmy Garoppolo. Speaking of injuries, Clippers forward Blake
Griffin could miss two months of action with the knee
injury Griffin sprain. As mc album last night's game against
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the Lakers. It's ESPN to put out the two month timetable.
Kevin Durant and Steph Curry practice today for the Warriors,
but both are questionable for Tomorrow's game against the Lakers.
The Yankee schedule to interview Carlos Beltron for their managerial vacancy.
He just won a World Series with the Astros then retired.
He was the sixth person to interview for that job.
But again the Big News Giants benching Eli Manning almost
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at his request, Doug and instead going with you, you you know,
Smith to start Sunday against the Raiders. Okay, can can
I I mean, can we dial back? Dan? You were there? Ryan?
You were there as well? Um and get well suoned
John Ramos, who's battling a cold. I always love when
we're fighting a cold. No one actually fights anything anyway, Um,
but didn't like. We were five games in the season
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and they had lost Adell Beckham Jr. And I said, hey,
they should trade him to the Jaguars because the Jaguars
need a quarterback. The Jaguars are basically run uh by
not basically they are run by his former coach, Tom Coughlin.
And you know, at the end of the year they're
going to be considering a quarterback change anyway and trying
to get younger and see what they got, Like, why
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not start that that process? I did say that was
sometimes you think things and you didn't You didn't say
and be like, now you didn't say that, Doug. I
did say that right then, Yes, you did, absolutely And
the end, by the way, you got some flak for it.
And then a few weeks later other people were saying,
why don't the Jaguars trade for Eli Manning? So I
think it was was it D'Angelo Williams who joined us,
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who said, that's crazy, that will never happen music you
you recall you write the show notes, don't you. Yeah,
it was D'Angelo Williams, because his point was that it's
not so much that Eli is done and he can't
play anymore, but behind their poor offensive line, which has
gotten moderately better, but it was so bad at the
beginning of the year. He said, he that's wold be
(27:32):
the coment about like put that dog down? Like if
you no one could play behind their offensive line given
their weapons. And it wasn't just on he I don't
I don't dispute that. I think the same thing in
San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo. But at least the Niners understand, like, hey, dude,
we're playing for next year in the year after that, right,
I mean, that's this is kind of sports in two
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thousand and seventeen, Like, and you have a I mean, look,
you don't just trade him to trade him, and normally
you wouldn't want to send him to je Backxonville, but
Jacksonville has got a good team and their quarterback away
and oh yeah, by the way, Jacksonville's run by his
former head coach, Like all of that made total sense
to be And now they're stuck with Eli Manning, who
I'm sure is pissed right, Like it sounds like the
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gentleman thing to do, Like are you gonna pull me
on anyway? Why don't you let those guys start? Like
you think that start streak doesn't mean something to him?
Of course it does. Of course it does. I would
think much less of Eli Manning if it doesn't. Now
he may he'll never say publicly that it matters to him,
but it absolutely means something Dome. So he's got the
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second longest start streak in the history of the National
Football League, and he's like, yeah, you know you're gonna
play replace me anyway, Why don't you just pull me
his quote. Dug in a statement said, my feeling is
that if you're going to play the other guys, play
them starting just to keep the streak going and knowing
you won't finish the game and have a chance to win.
To have a chance to win, it is pointless to me,
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and it tarnishes the streets. Um, you know, I I
missed fascinating, fascinating to watch the Giants right, and I
don't like. Look, I don't blame the Geno Smith. Thing
is like you want to talk about a guy just
getting a shot because he's a veteran, and that you're
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not even then you're not really going to get a
sense of Davis Webb. Like I get it. Gino's Gino
has been in New York, Gino started games. Gino is
drafted by the Jets. You brought him as a free agent.
I'm sure he's done all of the right things, but
like when the point to figure out if Davis Webb
can play? All right, so prepare Davis Webb like he's
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the starter and let's see how he plays. With those
scripted plays to start the game. Fascinating, fascinating. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. The other
two teams competing for as of today, that last playoff
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spot the Seahawks and the Falcons. And I think everyone
knew outside of the devastating injuries to Richard Sherman and
to Cam Chancellor, everyone knew that the Seahawks biggest issue
was their offensive line, and to solidify that offensive line,
they made a midseason trade for Pro Bowl or Dwayne
Brown with the Houston Texans, who joins us now on
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Dwayne,
(30:21):
congrats on the win this past weekend. How are you?
I'm good. How you guys doing good? Man? Okay, So
let's let's go back too when you're in Houston. H
take me through your decision to hold out, because I
think before you came back to the team um early
on their offensive line. The Texans offensive line was a disaster.
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And everybody's like Dwayne Brown's rolling in the money. And
then Deshaun Watson comes in and they change the offense,
and you weren't as as readily discussed. What take me
back through that decision to sit out to get a
new contract and what it was like watching your team play. Um,
you know what happened, Houston. I mean, you know, we
just couldn't get on the same page. Um. You know,
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as as you know, as a competitor, as a guy
that loves the game, you know, it was it was
tough to be away from from the sport, from our craft,
from my teammates. Um, but it was a business decision,
you know. And I think, Um, at the end of
the day, we we we mutually decided that it was
best that you know, not be there. And I think, um,
you know, no hard feelings I think on on either side.
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And you know, I worked out. I want to get
to Seattle obviously, and I want to get to what
you're doing charity wise this week. But but I can't
help but ask you. Obviously, you took a you took
affordable stance against what brob Bob mcdair was leaked to
have said in a private meeting. How much of them
treating you was that, how much of it was based
(31:47):
upon Uh, the fact you couldn't you couldn't come to
terms with the new salary. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure how much you know that I had to do
with it. Um. Obviously you know what was said something
I don't agree with, and um, you know I was
vocal about it. Uh you know, so uh, I'm not
sure how much I had to do with it. You know,
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I can only tell you how I felt on my end,
and UM, you know I was. I was. I stand
by what I said and how I felt about it.
So um, like I said, but there's still no hard
feelings there. You know, I got nothing but left everyone
in Houston. I had a great nine years there. I
had a lot of success there individually and as a team.
So um, I'm happy at the time I spent there. Okay,
(32:29):
so you arrive in Seattle, what was your perception of
the Seahawks? Having ever never played like you guys played
against the Seahawks earlier this year, what was your What
was your perception of the Seahawks as an outsider. I
always had a huge amount of respect for the organization.
You know, obviously They've had a lot of success, been
a Super Bowls one, Super Bowls, a lot of division titles,
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you know, and and just the culture in the locker
room here. I've always had a lot of respect for
the guys and and the way that they go about
their business and how they treat each other, you know,
So being able to play against them the Sunday before
I got here, you know, you just you know, it's
obviously a hard fark game, very close game. Um, you know,
a lot of excitement, you know, and to be here
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just a couple of days later. Everyone had a lot
of respect, you know for me and everything I've done
in my career. And then the fielding was mutual, so
it was it was very easy transition. And the guys
embraced me immediately. Yeah, they embraced you, and you were
in a position where everyone need you. On the other hand,
like look now, all a sudden, there's some shuffling with
the offensive line, Like how do you handle that? How
do you You've only been in one place. You go
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to a new locker room with a new line, and
everybody I think in football knew that they had had
some issues with that line. Um, what did you do
to ingratiate yourself with this new with the with the
new offensive line group that did need you, But you're
still taking somebody's job moving guys around. Um, I think
the guys in office the line. You know, it's a
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very very young group, so uh. You know, they obviously
you know, watched me throughout the years and and all.
Like I said, I had a lot of respect for
what I've done, and you know, the way I go
about my business. Um, you know, I came in very humbly, humbling, humbling, um,
and you know, I just went about trying to get
getting on him. You know, I was I was very
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familiar with the system. You know, I spent a lot
of time with it when I was a coach Kobayak,
So that was a pretty easy transition there and just
getting some recall and learn the terminology. And you know,
once they saw, you know, how I worked and how
I went about my business, you know, it was it
was pretty easy. You know. And but as a as
as I was a line, it's all about chemistry. It's
all about continuity. So we're still learning to to build that,
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you know. And and Lubajoco came back last week, and
this is my first time playing with him next to
each other, so you know, it's still a work in progress,
but we're doing pretty good. Yeah, And and like, look,
you guys are kind of throwing into the fire now.
Now you've got a couple of weeks, but you get
Luke back, and you get the Philadelphi Egos, who many
regard as, if not the best front seven in the
conversation of best front seven. Isn't this a great kind
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of litmus test for exactly where you guys are as
a group? Absolutely, Um, you know you want to compete
against the best, and Philly's playing the best football, best
football in the league right now. So um, as a unit,
we were all looking forward toward the talent, you know,
and we got him at home, you know, so, um
that that will help us out some. You know, I
think we've got a good plan for them going into it. Um,
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but it's just a huge test. We're gonna have to
get some good work in this week. And you know
they're they're the best team right now, you know. So
it's why not Why wouldn't you want to play against
a group like that? Um? You um, you know really
you know all too well about diabetes and and what
it can do to your family, your your mom and
your grandma, right, both type two. Yeah, and and this
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has caused you, I mean you're a I mean you
play a major role as an ambassador for the American
Diabetes Association. UM. Yeah, and looks some of it is hereditary,
some of it is diet base. What what should we
know about diabetes that we don't that that most I
think most common Americans don't know. I think it's uh,
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like you said, some of it, A lot of it
is diet based, you know. And and um, I think
in our culture, especially in the African American community, a
lot of the foods that we eat that we've come
to know and love, you know, the quote unquote comfort
foods and things like that. Um, it carry a lot
of things that can you know, destroy your body, you know,
over time. And I think, uh, for me, just watching
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how it's reachs havoc, you know, in my family and
then in the country overall, I think I just wanted
to bring some more awareness to it. Um. You know,
I became an ambassador with the American b Association and
we created the UH Team Tackle Initiative a couple of
years ago, where we went to Congress, you know, and
and propose different ideas to them on how to bring
more awareness and and try to find a cure for it. Um.
(36:48):
So I think just being conscious of it, you know,
I think people going to chestas see if you're prone
to it, UH is a huge step in in living
your life the right way and trying to avoid it.
Dwayne Brown joining US Pro Bowl left tackle for the
Seattle Seahawks getting ready take on the Philadelphia Eagles. He's
an ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. Of course, this
is Mike Cleets My Cause weekend. So what do cleets
(37:11):
for the A B A? What what are What are
those cleats gonna look like? They're pretty cool? Man? Um,
They're there are colors are like red and white and
and um and black, so you know they're kind of read.
You know, you have the their logo in it with
the American d W Association in it. Um, I'm going
to post a pitcher on my Instagram and on Twitter
at Dwayne Brown seventy six, um to show the world
(37:35):
kind of what they look like. And you know, like
I said, so what they're about and and what the
ADA is all about, and um, I think it's pretty cool.
I'm glad the NFL is doing this and this is
my first year UM being involved in it, so I'm
looking forward to it. Helped me out with this. UM.
Look Russell Wilson sometimes he's back there. He seems like
his drops are the deepest drops in the NFL. And
(37:56):
then some of the plays he makes and the scrambles
he makes, it's like, how do you how do you
do your job when you've played with you played with
obviously a bunch of different quarterbacks in Houston, some good,
some and some Ryan Mollots, and you know, it's like
you all over the map. So I guess my question
is like, how does your job and what you do
change when you're playing with Russell? It's it's a bit
(38:17):
of an adjustment, you know, having a guy that scrambles,
you know the way he does. UM. You know, you
first and foremost you just want to do your job,
get to your spot and and try to shut guys down. UM.
At the same time, you don't really know where he
might be UM, so you just try to avoid holding calls,
you know what I know, once he gets out of
the pocket, it's going to be hard for guys to
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catch him before he gets ut of the ball or
breaks along the scrimmage and get downfield. Um, you know
it's it's not it's not difficult for me. You know,
I still operate the same way, but just try to
be aware that you know, he may you know, run
right past me, right or left, you know, at any
given moment. Uh. And the plays he makes is just incredible.
He's a he's a phenomenal player and just very exciting,
(39:00):
you know, and it's it's pretty cool to have a
guy like that it's it's about for He's also got
a really good probably next to Aaron Rodgers. He's got
the second best hard count in the league. Is that
that that fair? I'd say? So okay. So I mean like, look,
you're you're big fella, and you know you're getting ready
to do your job. You're going to kind of your drop.
You think about dropping that left leg, but you gotta
(39:21):
worry about his hard count? Like are you are you
talking to yourself? Like it's on two, it's on two.
It's like how do you? How do you what's what's
your process of making sure you don't jump on that
hard count? I keep the counting in my head. You know,
as you have to approach line, you know, you kind
of get a feel for the defense on what's going on.
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You make your calls and then you remind yourself, okay,
that's on too. You know, you might try to, you know,
communicate to the guy next to you the same thing,
because you know, when you're making those calls, you can
kind of lose sight of the cadence. And uh, he
makes you believe it. He makes you believe that it's coming,
you know, so you just try to eat that in
the back of your mind throughout the whole Pretna reads, Yeah, listen,
(40:04):
he's he's pretty amazing at it. And not jumping is
a lot harder than than it looks like. You're sitting
there watching on TV and you almost get jumpie with
the hard acount. Dwyane, Listen, Uh, this is a this
is a great My my dad had type two diabetes
until he died. I know your family has been greatly affected,
but by really appreciate what you're doing to bring awareness
to this disease. And best of luck against philadelp Eagles
on Sunday Night Football. Appreciated. Thanks you got for having me.
(40:27):
All right. It's Dwayne Brown of the uh Seattle Seahawks,
so weird did not say, Houston Texans, right, super strange.
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The Giants are not going to start Manning, Okay, gotta
(40:48):
take a look at somebody else, right, gotta see him
against live bullets. And oh yeah, by the way, this
is tanking without calling it tanking, right, I don't care
how good Davis Webb is. You have a better chance
of winning with Eli Manning as your quarterback because he's
(41:08):
Eli Manning for a reason. But if your Giants, you're
at two and nine and you're competing with the Niners
who are threatening to play Jimmy Garoppolo, the Bears who
are three and eight, the Browns who are oh and
eleven and quickly working towards oh and sixteen, Like you
(41:29):
gotta protect your draft position. And I love this. I like,
we're not trying to lose, We're trying to play young.
How does young usually work out? Not so much. But
they want to take a look at David's Webb. That
makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the fact that
they're first going to take a look at Geno Smith.
(41:52):
So what does it say about about Ben mcadoo's job status.
I mean, this is not a decision that Ben McAdoo
plays into. They've either told him, he already knows he's gone,
And the question is you know easy way or hard way?
Hey man, you want to do this easy way of
(42:12):
the hard way or kind of like Todd Bowles. They
know they're down, but he's their guy and they're gonna
give him another year. But you gotta work with him
here in his last couple of games the year. Let
them work through the roster and see what they like
and what they don't like. And how are you ever
going to tell if you need a quarterback if you
don't play all of the quarterbacks on your roster. So
(42:38):
I have no idea of McAdoo. My guess is that
you think McAdoo is gone, Except you have to know
the Giants organization. They are really, really slow to pull
the trigger. I mean, if you remember, Tom Coughlin should
have been fired two or three years before he actually
was fired. First, they had Steve Spagnola who came back
as a defensive coordineer. He was bad. They had Perry Fuel,
(43:00):
he was bad. They changed offensive coordinators as well. That's
when they brought in Also, that's when they brought in McAdoo.
Was they change changed offensive coordinators, and then the thought was, hey,
the offense is fixed. We've been able to fix and
get more life out of Eli Manning. Let's fix the defense.
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They did that going back to two off seasons ago.
But in the offensive line broke down. Odell Beckham Jr.
Was never healthy. They haven't established a running game, and frankly,
they just aren't good enough pieces on offense to even
make it formidable at all. And I think that that
Eli falling on his sword saying, look, you're gonna pull
(43:42):
me anyway, why even start me? Is it is an
admirable point. It makes this starting Gina Smith even more peculiar.
I like it. I liken it again. Um, I like
him again. To senior night. I see to night in
high school basketball. You know these guys like, put Jimmy in,
(44:05):
put Jimmy in, put Jimmy in. Finally, the coaches like,
you know, we're gonna start Jimmy on senior nights of
those idiot idiot friends of his will stop chanting. But um,
what we all thought would happen to tom Brady appears
to be close to happening with Eli Manning. Remember tom
Brady's dad thought he'd finished somewhere else. There's always thoughts
(44:27):
that he'd finished Babe for the San Francisco forty Niners
because he grew up a Niners fan. Not Troy hack
been finished with but he finished really because of concussion.
Brett Farve didn't be Farv went to the uh Jets first,
then to the Vikings for a couple of years. Tony
Romo chose to go to broadcasting, but that was only
(44:50):
because the number one chair at CBS came available. Otherwise
he'd be in Houston, he'd be in Denver and those
you between. Kansas City appears to have its air parents,
so too does so too does Houston. But if you
can get Eli for a year in Denver, where his
brother has been successful, doesn't that make a lot of sense?
(45:14):
Jacksonville makes a lot of sense. The same trade that
was viable a month and a half ago before the
trade deadline, it's probably gonna be viable, um once we
get to the off season.
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