December 5, 2017 • 38 mins
Doug discusses Monday Night Football between the Steelers and the Bengals and tells you why you shouldn't be shocked by the brutal hits you saw. He talks about the quarterback situation with the Cleveland Browns and why they are still searching for another young player in the next draft. Plus, 3X Super Bowl Champion and NFL on FOX analyst Mark Schlereth joins the show to tell Doug if he thought last night was bad for the NFL.
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I've I've doubt I've had better. I've I've had worse
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behind double thick glass, which is behind other glass, other doors,
and yet the smoke is still getting through. I'm not
complaining to you. I'm just kind of painting the picture
of the fact that I can barely see John Ramos,
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I'm smelling smoke, and I'm trying to figure out exactly,
uh if if we're too close to the fire. So
lots of stuff going on. UM, I want to talk
about Steph Curry's injury, talk a little bit about the NB,
a little bit of about college hoops. Bad pick for
you yesterday. I have to make it up for you today.
I'm making up to you. Stick with me. UM got
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some college football thoughts as well. Josh Hype, the new
head coach at Central Florida, Danny White, the young athletic director.
They're crushing the world, do another great job, another great
higher and UM, I want to talk more about the
the Giants as they continued to while in mediocrity. But
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let's start with last night's Monday night football game. What
did you expect to see? You know? Last night reminded
me frankly of the Michael Bennett uh mistaken identity short term, Um,
what if that wasn't an arrest detainment? It did? It
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actually reminded me of Ray Rice hitting Jane Rice and
that video. It reminded me of do you remember the
the guy in Charlotte who got who got shot? He
had a brain injury and he went for his gun.
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He got smoked by police Eastern then and people rioted
because they had seen only Facebook footage and they hadn't
seen the real footage of exactly what happened. What did
you expect to see? Like Sean McDonough was appalled by
the ferocity of Bengals Steelers. First, let me just for
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the records state this. I think Sean mcdonneh is a
spectacular play by play voice spectacular, but one of the
things that he has attempted to do is within his
own calling of the game, shape it based upon his
how he views the narrative. And John Gruden also didn't
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like some of it, but a lot of that is
you got to take the lead of your play by play.
Oftentimes people don't like, don't like when play by play
and color guy disagree on something, even vociferously. There was
some dirty hits last night. Uh. Two players in fact
have been suspended. Vontes Burfett was carted off. Of course,
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Ryan Shea's here was cut off. Ryan Che's here. I
think we all think is going to be okay. He
basically had what amounts to a spinal cord concussion or
a spinal cord stinger. It looked really, really bad. But
last night was great for football. It was, you know why,
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because it was football. Football is supposed to be played
passionately with two teams, preferably that don't particularly like each other.
And the Bengals and the Steelers don't like each other.
There's supposed to be some history between the two, and
you know what, there's history go back two years ago
in the playoffs. It was just as nasty, if not
a nastier game with even more importance on the line.
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I don't like you, you don't like me. And guess what.
We wear helmets, shoulder pads and cups for a reason here, kids,
because we try and hurt each other. We don't really
try and hurt each other, but the physical contact is
so great that occasionally people get hurt. That's the sport.
What did you expect to see. I look, I was
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appalled when Ray Rice hit jen A Rice. It was gross,
absolutely disgusting, disgraceful. That's what looks like when a man
hits a woman. Would you expect to see? Oh, the
guy in Charlotte who got smoked by police, Like, I
don't like watching people get shot by police. But when
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the cops repeatedly tell you to drop your weapon and
you reach for it and the cops have a pistol
pointed on you, what did you expect to have happened?
What do you expect to have? I mean, I understand
that we operate in this world to which hey, listen,
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we're just watching from fantasy football and wance. These guys
score touchdowns and then do like they can do the
the you know, duck duck goose, or they can do
hacky sack sack races. They can be some else like Yeavin,
That's that's what football looks like. What do you expect
to see? Now? I'm not disputing the fact that that
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was bad for the mom trying to get up the
nerve to sign the permission slip for their son to
play tackle football in the fall. Like I have an
eight year old son and my wife saw that hit
and she walked up to me and she was like, ah,
excuse me. She's like, heyes, not playing, Like we already
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have issues with concussions and brain injury and and and
what these hits can lead to. And I understand you're
trying to like, these concussions are scary and Juju Smith Schuster,
for anybody who thinks that he didn't deserve to be suppending,
was suspended for one game by the NFL. Like go
back and watch he launches himself on a defensive player
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and though he appears to make contact with his shoulder first,
he tries to make it with his helmet. The same
thing happened with the Bengals defensive back who's suspended as well.
One game. Um I Local was suspended the same thing,
launched himself and this case he actually hit Antonio Brown
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with his helmet. They're trying to protect the players from themselves,
but they're trying to protect them from football. This is
what football has always been. It's not for the faint
of heart. It does lead potentially to brain injury, but like,
I mean, what would you expect. It's the Bengals and
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the Steelers. Have you not seen them play, seen them
play each other in the last decade. They don't like
each other. They hit really hard, and they got Vontes perfect,
and they got some dirty ass players on both teams,
and it's awesome. It's awesome. Here's Marvin Lewis after the game.
I think, man, Marvis, should players police themselves and the
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lice had gone. All I can do In terms of specials,
I think the game has changed. You know, I don't
know what play particularly you're referring to. You know, if
there's difference, yeah, it's it's football is it's a physical sport.
Football is a violent sport. Fitball is a collision sport.
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And I'm not going to dispute the fact that some
of those hits were dirty, they went over the line.
But football does in fact police itself, right, Like I
thought it was dirty what Jujuic Jujuice smith Schuster did,
But hey, Jujuice Smith Schuster is gonna have to go
over the middle against the Cincinnati Bengals for the rest
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of his career. And while he may have thought he
was doing a solid for Antonio Brown standing over him,
Antonio Brown's yelling karma, Hey, yes, what fellas you play
the Bengals twice next year twice. That's kind of the
way it works. And so I know we're supposed to
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we're supposed to be sickened by it, disgusted by it.
But I turned on a football game, and you know
what I saw football game? I saw a nasty rivalry
of two teams that don't like each other in a
division which has been hotly contested in two teams. One
has been a a champion several times throughout the past
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fifteen years, throughout the past thirty years. The other team
has had as has had bouts with uh sub mediocrity
and has had some really good years but unable to
climb out of the of the dull drums of just
making the playoffs and losing. Like there're two different franchises.
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One has forever felt disrespected, the other one has seen
themselves as regal but tougher than a two dollar steak.
And they went out in a football What the hell
did you expect to see? So I'm sorry that you
might not have liked it, But at its court, that's
what football is kind of about, right. Wayne Gretzky tried
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to take fighting out of hockey. Nobody liked it. Nobody watched.
Didn't work. NASCAR tried to take crashes out of out
of racing. Nobody liked it. People stop watching. The NFL
has tried to take um some of these egregious hits
out of the NFL. But I'm telling you last night,
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it's kind of awesome. No, I would you want your
son o there. No, no, it would not. But those
are grown men and they made the decision to play football,
and they made the decision to hit each other with
their helms. It's terrible. It sucks, and hopefully they'll all
get up and be able to remember where they parked
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their cars, remember their last names and their little security numbers. Today.
And you may think that's blood sport, and that's a
little bit about what it is. That's football. I watched
a football game. I was entertained, and of course the
Bengals lost in typical Bengals fashion. Had a big lead,
just forgot to tackle avy on Bell down the sideline,
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figure out a way to get the Steelers right in
the field goal range. And the Steelers make a field
goal as time expires, and they got an easier field
goal because of course the Bengals jumped off sides on
a forty three yarder instead turning into a thirty eight
yard which is like a shot in the National Football League,
Steelers won, Bengals lost. Bengals hit as hard as any
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team I've ever seen. The Steelers try to match that
level of intensity. Is it bad for the future of
the game because parents watched Ryan Shays here lay motionless. Sure,
but maybe the first time all year I thought, that's
the game that I'm not mad enough to play, and
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that's what the sport was built throughout. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's let's get the
opinion of a guy who's as well respected in the
support of football as anybody I've ever worked with. Mars
Laith one two three, Super Bowl two with the Broncos,
one with the Washington Redskins, covers the NFL for the
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NFL on Fox Calls Games. Of course, you see him
throughout all of our studio shows on Fox Sports One.
He joins us up two teams that have a history
of those type of plays. They don't like each other.
It was competitive, it was physical, it was vicious. I
don't know why people are so surprised, but you played
in this league. What was your reaction to Monday Night Football? Well,
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I mean exactly what you said. I mean, you knew
it was gonna be. You knew those two teams don't
like each other. You know, they have a history, especially
with Vontez perfect And you know, the problem that you
get into is when you start dispensing frontier justice. And
that's what I saw in that game a little bit.
That was one of those situations with the Juju Smith Schuster, which, um,
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you know, you're trying to lay a dude out and
here's the deal. And I've been in a bunch of
locker rooms, you know. I mean I grew up in
a locker room and played twelve years in the NFL.
And when you have those situations, when you have some
of those guys that are borderline players, you talk about it,
you know, Wednesday morning meetings. You come in there and say,
hey man, let's just not let's not forget that. This
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is what went down the last time we played this guy.
These are the chief shots. And you put a loop
of film together on all the cheap shots that have
happened and say, if we get a chance within the
context of the rules, um, during the course of a play,
let's take our shots. And you know, I mean, I
know that they're trying to cut some of that out
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of the league. Um, but those are the things that
go on, like it or not, and it's probably the
wrong way to go about it. But UM, I've been
in that meeting before and you know the problem that
you get into is there's always a few touch guys.
I mean, think about Smith Schuster. He was he was
at USC last year, so he probably just saw the
film was like, all right, I got my shot and
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I'm gonna take it, and you know, I'm gonna try
to I'm just gonna try to decapitate a guy. And
that that's a I mean, that part is an issue. Um.
But you know, the Gronkowski thing probably bothers me more
than that because it's not within the context of the game.
You know what, the play is completely over and you
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go wwe to the back of a dude's helmet and
give him a concussion. That one probably bothers me more
than the ones that happened in the field of play. UM.
So you know, It's just one of those situations, Doug.
Like I, I like the physicality of football. I will
never be mad about guys when they accidentally go, you know,
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helmet to helmet or whatever, helmet helmet what okay, hold
on me, Sorry, I'm sorry, has my granddaughter? Uh what
guys go helmet to helmet. That's not intentional. You know
that that stuff happens. Um, you know that's gonna happen
in the course of a game. But when you try
to lay dudes out or you try to you know,
decapitated dude, that's when you've got to call that. You
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call it what it is. And and I don't mind
the suspensions there. Um, I I thought, like the look
the chaisier thing. I mean, look, I played football just
as a kid, and I remember being first thing I
was taught was see what you hit, right, And so
unfortunately he didn't he lowered his helmet and that like,
luckily it appears like he could. He's gonna be okay,
he's got feeling movement in his legs, and they're saying
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it might be just a spinal concussion. Um. Look, Steelers,
record wise it right there and play for home field advantage.
Throughout the a f C playoffs, but without Shais here,
it's a completely different team though it is. That guy
is an absolute freak show. And it comes to uh athleticism,
the way he flies around and you know that hit man.
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That guy is an enforcer. Now, you know, you've got
to be better about like you said, keep your head
up and um and I've seen him fly around and
hit people like that in the past, So that's gonna
be a learning curve for him. But you're a percent right.
He is. He is one of those dudes that can
line up in an A gap, you know, and how
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all the linebackers nowadays go back to the zimmer you
know experiment. He's kind of the guy that gets credited
for a lot of that stuff. But you can walk
up in an A gap and and threatened to blitz
and then you can bust out all the way across
the formation from the from that opposite A gap to
the other side and get underneath a slant route. You know.
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That's the kind of athleticism that guy has. He can blitz,
he can cover, uh, he does it all. And so
he's a guy that UM to me, is a huge
difference maker for that for that team. So depending upon
how long he's out, Um, if he's out for the
rest of the season, or if he's out for a
couple of weeks or even a month, it certainly hurts
their defense because you're just not gonna you're just not
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going to replace that kind of athleticism, that kind of speed.
And he's a great football player. Yeah, he's a great
football player, March lays, joining us three times through a
Bowl champion Fox NFL analyst ships passing in the night.
The Chargers are now tied with the Raiders and the
Chiefs for first place. Chiefs were once under the last
undefeated team in the National Puble League. Now they can't
beat the Jets. Um, is there anything that can save
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the Chiefs from drowning this season? And I don't. I
don't think so, Doug. I mean, I think you look
at them defensively, you know, they have never defended the
run very well. Um here this year anyhow, And secondary,
with the injuries they've had, picked people have picked him
apart in their secondary. Too many mistakes, too many big
plays given up in the secondary, so much so that
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it went out and signed Darrell Rivas, who have been
out forever, you know. So those are the big issues there,
and they can play with the lead. But I think
what has happened is they're a team that early in
the season people couldn't get a read on because they
give you so much eye candy with Andy Reid to
all the motion stuff and the Jets sweep stuff and
the shovel past stuff, and formationally, they do such a
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great job of showing you a unique looking run, a
triple option type of run, and then having a play
action off of that. And it's so much eye candy
that you lose eye discipline and you're always out of position.
And that's what happened earlier in the season. But I
think now that people have you know, the defensive coordinators
have seen it over and over, they've seen what works,
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to see what doesn't work, you know, they start to
make those adjustments, and now guys have better, they've been
trained better to to have better eye discipline and not
get fooled by all the motion, and all of a sudden, offensively,
they're not putting up the kind of points they were early.
They can't play with the lead. And when they can't
play with the lead, everything's on the table. That that
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defense has to defend, and they're just not good enough
to do it. Also, they have some serious issues, some
serious a warts that have been exposed here in the
last five weeks. I think they're like one in six
in the last and the last seven weeks. I mean,
it's kind of incredible what's happened to them? That's the
voice of Mark larrat, three times Super Bowl champion Fox
NFL analysts. Let's go to the New York Giants. They
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fired their head coach, they fired their general manager. Um
My thought on this think was, look, Ali man has
been been a tremendous quarterback, but uh, they did, in
fact have to take a look at Davis Webb. There
was not a ton of reward for playing Eli Manning.
Ownership signed off on it, the GM signed off on
the head coach signed off on. The only one who
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didn't like it was Eli Manning. And now he gets
his way, he gets his starting position back. But like, what,
what exactly is the point? I don't understand what the
Giants are doing even now? Well I don't. I don't
need it. I mean, if you knew you're gonna high,
you knew that you were gonna fire your head coach
and your GM anyhow. And my whole thing is Eli
Manning is not the entire year of the problem. It's
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not like you're like, hey, we're just one quarterback away
from you know, playing well. Yeah, he hasn't played that well,
but he's a guy that needs to be supported. You know,
he can't move, he can't get out of harm's way.
You haven't supported him with a good offensive line. You
haven't supported him with a running game. He just hasn't happened.
You lost both your receivers. So to me, it was
one of those situations where your owner let a head
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coach and the GM that you knew you were gonna
get rid of make a decision to make the organization
look bad, and you signed off on it. I mean,
it's like the it's like the dude, you know, it's
like the dude that runs the streets on his wife,
you know what I mean. To me, it's like, oh,
I was, you know, and then gets caught and it's like, hey, man,
I was. You know, I'm so sorry, sweet, you know,
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he's lost my head for a minute. But now I'm
gonna come back and here's the you know, the five
Carrott diamond ring. I just I looked at that and like,
what were you doing in the first place? The glass
is not greener? Yeah, I mean you're gonna fire those
guys any how. And and now you made your whole
organization look bad because you took a guy that has
been a two time Super Bowl champion, two time m
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v P and and you basically put the blame on him,
and like, hey, it's not us, it's him. He's not
any good. And I just looked at the ownership, like
you guys, are you guys the Mayor family, You're too
classy to let that happen to your franchise. I was
just disappointed in them in general. You signed off on
as an owner, That to me was that. That to
me is just it's not okay. Uh. Russell Wilson continues
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to find a way to win games in spite of
the fact his line isn't very good, don't run the
football well, and the defense has been decimated in the
back end by injuries. How sustainable is this? Um? Listen?
The guy is a guy is Chris Angel right, I
mean he can make you disappear. That's that's Russell Wilson.
That dude is an illusion as he's a he's a
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free show. Thirty touchdowns they have scored twenty nine. He's
been associated with I think twenty six touchdown passes in
three rushing touchdowns. Um, I mean, come on, dude, Like,
if that does not the m v P, put any
other quarterback, put Carson Wentz in that situation, put Tom
Brad in that situation. Do you think they are you know,
doing what Russell Wilson is doing. I mean we're scrambling
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around just making I mean, freak show level plays without
without any protection, with no running game. Um, right now,
I'm I'm I'm hard pressed to said that. I don't
think I would put him as the number one m
VP candidate if if I'm voting right now, Uh, is
it sustainable if he continues to do things that are
freak show level, Yeah, it's sustainable. And if they start
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playing that defense like they played the other night on
Sunday night against the against the Eagles, then yeah, I
think it is sustainable. Um, Eagles have only beaten one
team with a winning record. Does that leaves you to
be and considering how they played Granted on the road
in Seattle, they may not play on the road in
the playoffs. But what's your level of concern based upon,
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uh One, the level of competition they played into how
they played on Sunday. Well, the level competition doesn't scare
me that much because they've throttled everybody, um plan on
the road. Here's the thing about that, and this is
just human nature when you're playing as good as they played.
They lost I think the second game of the season
to the Chiefs, and then they've gone on this incredible
run when you've played that well. And I know because
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you know, I played on a team that started the
season eleven and oh and I played on another team
that started the season thirteen and oh, little things that
little things, you know, you don't you get to the
point where human nature is. You don't sweep the corners,
you know. It's just a little stuff that you're like,
hey man, we can't afford to offside here this holding call,
And everybody kind of goes, yeah, you know what, we
gotta clean that up. But when you're winning, it kind
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of like, yeah, we gotta clean it up. But hey,
we're winning and we're crushing people and we're throttling everybody
that we play against, and so it's almost one of
those throwaway comments, Doug. I think one of these things
that happens to you when you lose. The coaching staff
brings you in and takes all those little things that
they said, Hey, this is gonna be a problem at
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some point, guys, we're gonna clean this up. We gotta
clean this up. And they're able to dust all that
film law and give you a role like here's we
told you that this kind of penalty is gonna hurt us,
or this kind of mental mistake is gonna hurt us,
and they can show you. You know, in week four
we talked about this. Here it is. It showed up
in Seattle. In week seven, we talked about this, did
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we not? And we all kind of laughed about it.
Here it is against Seattle. It shows up, and this
is why we lost that game. And that's why it's
so damn important to be dialed in at all times.
So this is a great teaching tape. You're on a
West Coast wing, you're gonna play the Rams next um
in Los Angeles. You can you can come away with
this West Coast Swing road trip one and one and
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you can learn a lot about your football team. So
this is a learning opportunity. I'm not concerned with Philadelphia.
They're an outstanding football team. Great stuff, Stinak, Where are
you this weekend? I am in Houston for San Francisco
against IT picks. What have you seen from Garoppolo on
tape so far? Well, so far, I've got it all download.
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I haven't even looked at that tape yet, so I
will you know what. I will let you know exactly
what I see the next time we talked. But here's what.
Here's no, here's no, that's okay. I love your honest
here's what. Here's what I want to know. Okay. I'm
gonna ask you next week. You joined us up like
Mark Slayer's joining us. This is a true story and
you can attest to it. When Stink was in Washington,
they drafted a first round quarterback in the seventh round
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quarterback same year. Correct? Correct? Heath Schuler was the first
round pick, right, and the seventh round pick was Gus Farrott.
I'm gonna say correct, okay, and Stink on the sideline
went up to one of the offensive coaches and said,
how come the seventh round picks better than the first
round pick? Is that about accurate. Yeah. I saw him practice.
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I saw them both practice for the sum total of
about eight snaps apiece. And I said, the seventh rounder,
I told it, Mark my word, the seventh rounder is
gonna be ten times a quarterback first rounder is just
trust me better, Okay. So all I wanna know is
Canny play and you'll you'll watch him in person, you'll
watch him on tape. And I trust your eye way
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more than I trust most anybody else's eye because you've
lived with some of the great quarterbacks in the nashvillelle
like and some bad ones as well. And so we'll
retouch this conversation next week. Deal perfect, great stuff, Take
care of your granddaughter. That's Mark Shlaire at three times
Super Bowl champion. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Heart Radio app. The Niners. You might get a prettier
girl that's twenty one years old, twenty two years old, okay,
and she hasn't had kids, and she doesn't have one
of those called cat tails that with the what are
the wrinkles called that the women like they get the
boat tox for some something or other. Crow's feet, that's
a crow's feet. They might have crows like so what
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so what right? Like you don't look good either, But
they're interesting and they're refined, and they've lived through the
good and the bad, so they understand. They understand to
not not. They're not super super emotional like younger men
and women are. It's the same thing with getting a quarterback.
You're the Niners and you get Donald, you get Rosen.
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They haven't seen light bullets. You don't know how they're
gonna react to uh an injury, a bad season, a
bad couple of seasons with their leaderships, like how they'll
act when they have money in their pocket. Like whereas Garoppolo,
he might not be the greatest quarterback on earth. He
may not. He may not be Joe Montana, might not
be Steve Young. But you know what, He's lived in
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the league. He's played on championship teams. He's been around
a little bit, been around a bunch of different coordinators.
He's a he's a plus thirty five year old woman,
which to me is way more attractive than a twenty
one year old woman. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug gott Leaps show weekdays at three pm
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. I feel like this is a huge
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story which he is not being discussed at all. Derek
Jeter is coming into the Miami Marlins partial owner and
he is cleaning house. He stupidly got rid of my boy,
Rich Walts, who's just an outstanding play by playvoice, but
not his guy. I don't know why a play by
play voice should be changed. That makes no sense to me.
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That makes absolutely no sense, like, uh, voice of a team,
that's a relationship which is built. And while you might
get something like I want my guy, like he's never
been disloyal and he speaks, the Miami fans are used
to him, and he's more than companies excellent at his job,
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Like what are you doing? The sad thing was he
didn't even get one of those parting gift bags away.
All of Derek Jeters one night stands got those giftbacks.
I can't believe at least send him a Yeah Jeets
gift bag if you're going to fire the dude anyway.
But they're trying to clean house with the roster as well,
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which is kind of part for the course with even
previous Miami Marlin's ownership back when they were the Florida Marlins.
You're good, then he clean house. You start over. Good,
you clean house, you start over. John Carlos Stanton had
a remarkable season. John Carlos Stanton is entering his prime
as a baseball player. He's also entering the prime of
a backloaded contract which would pay him two hundred and
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ninety five million dollars in the last you know, couple
of years of it. That's five years of it. It's
a sick deal. It's a pro John Carlos Stanton deal,
and it's one to which he has a no trade
clause that he can take off or keep on for
whatever team he'd like. We're still waiting to find out
if you'll take it off for the Cardinals and the
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San Francisco Giants, two teams that have offered reportedly the
best deals for Stanton. But I guess my question is this,
with the John Carlos Stanton trade being imminent, why in
the hell would he go to San Francisco? Why would
you go San Francisco sucked last year? And if you
want to tell me that, yeah, Madison bum Garden was
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hurt and he's not usually hurt. Okay, I want to
tell me that Johnny Quato had a down year for
the first time and like, okay, but like dude, pitchers
lose it really really quickly. They still need a third baseman,
they'd still need a center fielder, they still need help
in their bullpen. And last I checked, they're still in
the same division with the Dodgers, who are better, who
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are better? And the Rockies and the Diamondbacks. And oh yeah,
by the way, if you're John Carlos Stanton, like you
do know that San Francisco is a terrible place to
hit home runs if you're right handed. Like it is
designed basically, it is designed for old school baseball, with
the exception of a short right field porch because it
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was built when they had Barry Bonds huge outfield. So
I feel like this is one of those destined to
fail moves. And then the St. Louis Cardinals are invested
and involved and willing to pick up two and I
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thought the Cardinals come out looking so smart because they
never really changed their offer for our pool holes and
pool holes is aging badly with the UH with the Angels.
It's a terrible deal. They're gonna sign up for Stanton
for terrible deal. I don't I don't get it. I
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don't get it. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Heart Radio app. Quick takeaway on the on the Warriors
and Pelicans fight. If you haven't been paying attention, here's
what everybody in the NBA is trying to do. They're
trying to punk the Warriors. They're trying to punk the Warriors.
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The word is out because of what's happened to them
in the NBA finals the last two years, what happened
to them with the Celtics, what's happened to them in
a couple of different games, what happened to them when
they played in Oklahoma City. Is officials, Sometimes we call
the game a little bit looser. Let you get away
with some stuff. When Oklahoma City comes in Oklahoma City
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scene as a finesse team and you're gonna try and
make it ugly, You're gonna try and be extra sort
of tough. You're gonna try and punk them. That's what's happening.
That's why Kevin dur Kevin Rendon getting a fight DeMarcus
Cousins trying to punk him. Steph Curry sprains his ankle.
Like the takeaway is really really simple. Once you get
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her scattered report out on you. In the NBA, everybody's
going to try. It's no different than the NFL. What's
happened to the Kana City Chiefs. People like, forget playing man,
let's play zone and you know, just let Alex Smith
dump everything to check everything to oun, go ahead, check
stuff down, and we just gather to the ball, run
to the ball and tackle, you know, make make sure
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handed tackles. And they've been the Chiefs have been unable
to adjust to the adjustment. Once you get a scattered report,
people are going to try and execute that scatterport. That's
what happened to the Warriors. And you know what the
Warriors did. They dropped thirty seven in the fourth quarter
after dropping thirty nine in the third quarter. I mean
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they've shown in reality that they can take a punch
and land a CounterPunch without swinging at all. Right, Like,
that's a seventy seven point second half. That's a you
want to be tough, guys, Fine, here's a couple of
three pointers and a couple of more Steph drop, Storty
one and eleven Clay Thompson drops. They end up winning
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by ten. With the New Orleans Pelicans, scatter report is out.
The only way you're gonna beat the Warriors is by
mugging the Warriors, and that's exactly what the Pelicans tried
to do and it didn't work. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
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and the I Heart Radio app. The Browns have invested
time and resourced and play coaching into Deshaun kaijer this year,
which is good for him. This is from Pro Football Talk.
Since the amount of time is almost certainly gonna cut
into whichever quarterback they draft the top of next year,
Browns coach Hugh Jackson conceded the obvious on Monday by
saying this, we can't have too many good quarterbacks right
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now on this football team. We have to use resources
at that position and go get the right guy that
we feel comfortable with to pair them with some of
the players we have here to come up with the
best quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, so the idea
is they're probably gonna go out and add another one.
They have the number one and number seven pick if
the draft was to come down today, and so people
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are trying to one whether or not Kaiser is the guy.
My NFL guys have told me that Kaiser finally looks
like the leader that he wasn't in at Notre Dame
the last two weeks with the Cleveland Browns and while
the Cleveland while the Cleveland Browns appeared to be a
complete dysfunctional mess, not knowing if they should trade for
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a J McCarron, if they should not trade for ajmcare
By the way, j mcaren gave me a free agent
in this offseason, they can actually sign a J McCarron.
So the fact that that trade didn't go through, the
possibility is they can still get him anyway. But many
of the holes that they have are being short up.
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Gordon came back and he's put a good The defense
is young, pretty athletic. The offensive line is not great,
but they're playing without Joe Thomas. He'll be back. Like
they're not the worst thing on earth. I kind of
feel like, um, I kind of feel like what what
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he was saying is the general wild, wild, wildly held
belief in football, which is, you know, it's all kind
of a numbers thing, like your hit rate is, you're
not gonna hit on just one guy. You kind of
got to throw numbers at it. That's the belief. And
I'll give you the um, I'll give you the the
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best kind of parallel to it. Here's a college football story.
You guys aware of the sanctions on Old Miss music.
Do you know what happened with Old Miss with the
with with the sanctions. Yeah, well they had some self
imposed postseason bands and sacrifice a couple of scholarships. But
then the n c A came down and took away
(36:43):
even more scholarship. Right, so players can transfer out. Andy
are in fact transfer out um. And I don't know
if you know who their their quarterback is, but he's
actually super super talented athletic. His names Shaye Patterson. Okay,
Shay Patterson is a off more. He's from Shreveport, Louisiana.
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He uh uh this year he's he's and he's a
run pass threat as a quarterback. He's visiting Michigan. Now,
remember Michigan also has Dylan McCaffrey sitting out. That's Christian
McCaffrey's brother, who is a four star product and supposedly
another potential Michigan quarterback. If you've watched Michigan play football,
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they are All you need to know is if they
had a quarterback, they'd be playing in the college football
playoff period. And so instead of saying, hey, look I
believe in Dylan McCaffrey, he's like, I like that Dan McCaffrey.
I got a bunch of other guys, and I got
guys on the way and maybe Shape Patterson. Because football
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is a numbers game, right There's a hit rate, and
even if your hit rate is high, it's like fifty
or sixty. And I kind of think that's what the
Cleveland Browns are going with, Like do we have to
Shawan Kaiser? Yeah? Is he rightly? Maybe maybe we go
out and get a j mccaren too, or maybe we
draft a quarterback, or maybe we have all three and
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just try and get a one in three. If we
find one good quarterback out of three, we found our
good quarterback.
This is the best of the Don Got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America? Dog Gotlip Show?
Fox Sports Radio, Live from the City of Angels We've
got a really bad fire not far from our studios.
This this microphone is on fire. Oh, terrible analogy, timed analogy.
(00:22):
We didn't stop the fire. Sorry, Billy Joel singing in
my ear. Um, No, it's a really bad fire in
uh in the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles, and uh,
it's it's it's so bad. In fact, we are I
don't know, ten miles removed from the fire. And you
can smell the smoke and see the ash inside the studio.
(00:45):
I don't even know how it smells like. And and like, look,
I'm not gonna sit here and say I have the
greatest radio studio on Earth. I don't have the worst.
I've I've doubt I've had better. I've I've had worse
as well. But I will tell you that, like this
is a legit. Like those doors, radio studio doors, television
doors are like the heaviest doors on the planet. They're
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supposed to be like almost vacuum sealed. There's hard to
get up if you have one of those expensive sub
zero refrigerators. They're that hard to get open, and that's
behind double thick glass, which is behind other glass, other doors,
and yet the smoke is still getting through. I'm not
complaining to you. I'm just kind of painting the picture
of the fact that I can barely see John Ramos,
(01:28):
I'm smelling smoke, and I'm trying to figure out exactly,
uh if if we're too close to the fire. So
lots of stuff going on. UM, I want to talk
about Steph Curry's injury, talk a little bit about the NB,
a little bit of about college hoops. Bad pick for
you yesterday. I have to make it up for you today.
I'm making up to you. Stick with me. UM got
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some college football thoughts as well. Josh Hype, the new
head coach at Central Florida, Danny White, the young athletic director.
They're crushing the world, do another great job, another great
higher and UM, I want to talk more about the
the Giants as they continued to while in mediocrity. But
(02:13):
let's start with last night's Monday night football game. What
did you expect to see? You know? Last night reminded
me frankly of the Michael Bennett uh mistaken identity short term, Um,
what if that wasn't an arrest detainment? It did? It
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actually reminded me of Ray Rice hitting Jane Rice and
that video. It reminded me of do you remember the
the guy in Charlotte who got who got shot? He
had a brain injury and he went for his gun.
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He got smoked by police Eastern then and people rioted
because they had seen only Facebook footage and they hadn't
seen the real footage of exactly what happened. What did
you expect to see? Like Sean McDonough was appalled by
the ferocity of Bengals Steelers. First, let me just for
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the records state this. I think Sean mcdonneh is a
spectacular play by play voice spectacular, but one of the
things that he has attempted to do is within his
own calling of the game, shape it based upon his
how he views the narrative. And John Gruden also didn't
(03:47):
like some of it, but a lot of that is
you got to take the lead of your play by play.
Oftentimes people don't like, don't like when play by play
and color guy disagree on something, even vociferously. There was
some dirty hits last night. Uh. Two players in fact
have been suspended. Vontes Burfett was carted off. Of course,
(04:08):
Ryan Shea's here was cut off. Ryan Che's here. I
think we all think is going to be okay. He
basically had what amounts to a spinal cord concussion or
a spinal cord stinger. It looked really, really bad. But
last night was great for football. It was, you know why,
(04:28):
because it was football. Football is supposed to be played
passionately with two teams, preferably that don't particularly like each other.
And the Bengals and the Steelers don't like each other.
There's supposed to be some history between the two, and
you know what, there's history go back two years ago
in the playoffs. It was just as nasty, if not
a nastier game with even more importance on the line.
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I don't like you, you don't like me. And guess what.
We wear helmets, shoulder pads and cups for a reason here, kids,
because we try and hurt each other. We don't really
try and hurt each other, but the physical contact is
so great that occasionally people get hurt. That's the sport.
What did you expect to see. I look, I was
(05:14):
appalled when Ray Rice hit jen A Rice. It was gross,
absolutely disgusting, disgraceful. That's what looks like when a man
hits a woman. Would you expect to see? Oh, the
guy in Charlotte who got smoked by police, Like, I
don't like watching people get shot by police. But when
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the cops repeatedly tell you to drop your weapon and
you reach for it and the cops have a pistol
pointed on you, what did you expect to have happened?
What do you expect to have? I mean, I understand
that we operate in this world to which hey, listen,
(05:57):
we're just watching from fantasy football and wance. These guys
score touchdowns and then do like they can do the
the you know, duck duck goose, or they can do
hacky sack sack races. They can be some else like Yeavin,
That's that's what football looks like. What do you expect
to see? Now? I'm not disputing the fact that that
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was bad for the mom trying to get up the
nerve to sign the permission slip for their son to
play tackle football in the fall. Like I have an
eight year old son and my wife saw that hit
and she walked up to me and she was like, ah,
excuse me. She's like, heyes, not playing, Like we already
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have issues with concussions and brain injury and and and
what these hits can lead to. And I understand you're
trying to like, these concussions are scary and Juju Smith Schuster,
for anybody who thinks that he didn't deserve to be suppending,
was suspended for one game by the NFL. Like go
back and watch he launches himself on a defensive player
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and though he appears to make contact with his shoulder first,
he tries to make it with his helmet. The same
thing happened with the Bengals defensive back who's suspended as well.
One game. Um I Local was suspended the same thing,
launched himself and this case he actually hit Antonio Brown
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with his helmet. They're trying to protect the players from themselves,
but they're trying to protect them from football. This is
what football has always been. It's not for the faint
of heart. It does lead potentially to brain injury, but like,
I mean, what would you expect. It's the Bengals and
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the Steelers. Have you not seen them play, seen them
play each other in the last decade. They don't like
each other. They hit really hard, and they got Vontes perfect,
and they got some dirty ass players on both teams,
and it's awesome. It's awesome. Here's Marvin Lewis after the game.
I think, man, Marvis, should players police themselves and the
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lice had gone. All I can do In terms of specials,
I think the game has changed. You know, I don't
know what play particularly you're referring to. You know, if
there's difference, yeah, it's it's football is it's a physical sport.
Football is a violent sport. Fitball is a collision sport.
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And I'm not going to dispute the fact that some
of those hits were dirty, they went over the line.
But football does in fact police itself, right, Like I
thought it was dirty what Jujuic Jujuice smith Schuster did,
But hey, Jujuice Smith Schuster is gonna have to go
over the middle against the Cincinnati Bengals for the rest
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of his career. And while he may have thought he
was doing a solid for Antonio Brown standing over him,
Antonio Brown's yelling karma, Hey, yes, what fellas you play
the Bengals twice next year twice. That's kind of the
way it works. And so I know we're supposed to
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we're supposed to be sickened by it, disgusted by it.
But I turned on a football game, and you know
what I saw football game? I saw a nasty rivalry
of two teams that don't like each other in a
division which has been hotly contested in two teams. One
has been a a champion several times throughout the past
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fifteen years, throughout the past thirty years. The other team
has had as has had bouts with uh sub mediocrity
and has had some really good years but unable to
climb out of the of the dull drums of just
making the playoffs and losing. Like there're two different franchises.
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One has forever felt disrespected, the other one has seen
themselves as regal but tougher than a two dollar steak.
And they went out in a football What the hell
did you expect to see? So I'm sorry that you
might not have liked it, But at its court, that's
what football is kind of about, right. Wayne Gretzky tried
(10:22):
to take fighting out of hockey. Nobody liked it. Nobody watched.
Didn't work. NASCAR tried to take crashes out of out
of racing. Nobody liked it. People stop watching. The NFL
has tried to take um some of these egregious hits
out of the NFL. But I'm telling you last night,
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it's kind of awesome. No, I would you want your
son o there. No, no, it would not. But those
are grown men and they made the decision to play football,
and they made the decision to hit each other with
their helms. It's terrible. It sucks, and hopefully they'll all
get up and be able to remember where they parked
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their cars, remember their last names and their little security numbers. Today.
And you may think that's blood sport, and that's a
little bit about what it is. That's football. I watched
a football game. I was entertained, and of course the
Bengals lost in typical Bengals fashion. Had a big lead,
just forgot to tackle avy on Bell down the sideline,
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figure out a way to get the Steelers right in
the field goal range. And the Steelers make a field
goal as time expires, and they got an easier field
goal because of course the Bengals jumped off sides on
a forty three yarder instead turning into a thirty eight
yard which is like a shot in the National Football League,
Steelers won, Bengals lost. Bengals hit as hard as any
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team I've ever seen. The Steelers try to match that
level of intensity. Is it bad for the future of
the game because parents watched Ryan Shays here lay motionless. Sure,
but maybe the first time all year I thought, that's
the game that I'm not mad enough to play, and
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that's what the sport was built throughout. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's let's get the
opinion of a guy who's as well respected in the
support of football as anybody I've ever worked with. Mars
Laith one two three, Super Bowl two with the Broncos,
one with the Washington Redskins, covers the NFL for the
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NFL on Fox Calls Games. Of course, you see him
throughout all of our studio shows on Fox Sports One.
He joins us up two teams that have a history
of those type of plays. They don't like each other.
It was competitive, it was physical, it was vicious. I
don't know why people are so surprised, but you played
in this league. What was your reaction to Monday Night Football? Well,
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I mean exactly what you said. I mean, you knew
it was gonna be. You knew those two teams don't
like each other. You know, they have a history, especially
with Vontez perfect And you know, the problem that you
get into is when you start dispensing frontier justice. And
that's what I saw in that game a little bit.
That was one of those situations with the Juju Smith Schuster, which, um,
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you know, you're trying to lay a dude out and
here's the deal. And I've been in a bunch of
locker rooms, you know. I mean I grew up in
a locker room and played twelve years in the NFL.
And when you have those situations, when you have some
of those guys that are borderline players, you talk about it,
you know, Wednesday morning meetings. You come in there and say,
hey man, let's just not let's not forget that. This
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is what went down the last time we played this guy.
These are the chief shots. And you put a loop
of film together on all the cheap shots that have
happened and say, if we get a chance within the
context of the rules, um, during the course of a play,
let's take our shots. And you know, I mean, I
know that they're trying to cut some of that out
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of the league. Um, but those are the things that
go on, like it or not, and it's probably the
wrong way to go about it. But UM, I've been
in that meeting before and you know the problem that
you get into is there's always a few touch guys.
I mean, think about Smith Schuster. He was he was
at USC last year, so he probably just saw the
film was like, all right, I got my shot and
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I'm gonna take it, and you know, I'm gonna try
to I'm just gonna try to decapitate a guy. And
that that's a I mean, that part is an issue. Um.
But you know, the Gronkowski thing probably bothers me more
than that because it's not within the context of the game.
You know what, the play is completely over and you
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go wwe to the back of a dude's helmet and
give him a concussion. That one probably bothers me more
than the ones that happened in the field of play. UM.
So you know, It's just one of those situations, Doug.
Like I, I like the physicality of football. I will
never be mad about guys when they accidentally go, you know,
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helmet to helmet or whatever, helmet helmet what okay, hold
on me, Sorry, I'm sorry, has my granddaughter? Uh what
guys go helmet to helmet. That's not intentional. You know
that that stuff happens. Um, you know that's gonna happen
in the course of a game. But when you try
to lay dudes out or you try to you know,
decapitated dude, that's when you've got to call that. You
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call it what it is. And and I don't mind
the suspensions there. Um, I I thought, like the look
the chaisier thing. I mean, look, I played football just
as a kid, and I remember being first thing I
was taught was see what you hit, right, And so
unfortunately he didn't he lowered his helmet and that like,
luckily it appears like he could. He's gonna be okay,
he's got feeling movement in his legs, and they're saying
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it might be just a spinal concussion. Um. Look, Steelers,
record wise it right there and play for home field advantage.
Throughout the a f C playoffs, but without Shais here,
it's a completely different team though it is. That guy
is an absolute freak show. And it comes to uh athleticism,
the way he flies around and you know that hit man.
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That guy is an enforcer. Now, you know, you've got
to be better about like you said, keep your head
up and um and I've seen him fly around and
hit people like that in the past, So that's gonna
be a learning curve for him. But you're a percent right.
He is. He is one of those dudes that can
line up in an A gap, you know, and how
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all the linebackers nowadays go back to the zimmer you
know experiment. He's kind of the guy that gets credited
for a lot of that stuff. But you can walk
up in an A gap and and threatened to blitz
and then you can bust out all the way across
the formation from the from that opposite A gap to
the other side and get underneath a slant route. You know.
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That's the kind of athleticism that guy has. He can blitz,
he can cover, uh, he does it all. And so
he's a guy that UM to me, is a huge
difference maker for that for that team. So depending upon
how long he's out, Um, if he's out for the
rest of the season, or if he's out for a
couple of weeks or even a month, it certainly hurts
their defense because you're just not gonna you're just not
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going to replace that kind of athleticism, that kind of speed.
And he's a great football player. Yeah, he's a great
football player, March lays, joining us three times through a
Bowl champion Fox NFL analyst ships passing in the night.
The Chargers are now tied with the Raiders and the
Chiefs for first place. Chiefs were once under the last
undefeated team in the National Puble League. Now they can't
beat the Jets. Um, is there anything that can save
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the Chiefs from drowning this season? And I don't. I
don't think so, Doug. I mean, I think you look
at them defensively, you know, they have never defended the
run very well. Um here this year anyhow, And secondary,
with the injuries they've had, picked people have picked him
apart in their secondary. Too many mistakes, too many big
plays given up in the secondary, so much so that
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it went out and signed Darrell Rivas, who have been
out forever, you know. So those are the big issues there,
and they can play with the lead. But I think
what has happened is they're a team that early in
the season people couldn't get a read on because they
give you so much eye candy with Andy Reid to
all the motion stuff and the Jets sweep stuff and
the shovel past stuff, and formationally, they do such a
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great job of showing you a unique looking run, a
triple option type of run, and then having a play
action off of that. And it's so much eye candy
that you lose eye discipline and you're always out of position.
And that's what happened earlier in the season. But I
think now that people have you know, the defensive coordinators
have seen it over and over, they've seen what works,
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to see what doesn't work, you know, they start to
make those adjustments, and now guys have better, they've been
trained better to to have better eye discipline and not
get fooled by all the motion, and all of a sudden, offensively,
they're not putting up the kind of points they were early.
They can't play with the lead. And when they can't
play with the lead, everything's on the table. That that
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defense has to defend, and they're just not good enough
to do it. Also, they have some serious issues, some
serious a warts that have been exposed here in the
last five weeks. I think they're like one in six
in the last and the last seven weeks. I mean,
it's kind of incredible what's happened to them? That's the
voice of Mark larrat, three times Super Bowl champion Fox
NFL analysts. Let's go to the New York Giants. They
(19:22):
fired their head coach, they fired their general manager. Um
My thought on this think was, look, Ali man has
been been a tremendous quarterback, but uh, they did, in
fact have to take a look at Davis Webb. There
was not a ton of reward for playing Eli Manning.
Ownership signed off on it, the GM signed off on
the head coach signed off on. The only one who
(19:43):
didn't like it was Eli Manning. And now he gets
his way, he gets his starting position back. But like, what,
what exactly is the point? I don't understand what the
Giants are doing even now? Well I don't. I don't
need it. I mean, if you knew you're gonna high,
you knew that you were gonna fire your head coach
and your GM anyhow. And my whole thing is Eli
Manning is not the entire year of the problem. It's
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not like you're like, hey, we're just one quarterback away
from you know, playing well. Yeah, he hasn't played that well,
but he's a guy that needs to be supported. You know,
he can't move, he can't get out of harm's way.
You haven't supported him with a good offensive line. You
haven't supported him with a running game. He just hasn't happened.
You lost both your receivers. So to me, it was
one of those situations where your owner let a head
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coach and the GM that you knew you were gonna
get rid of make a decision to make the organization
look bad, and you signed off on it. I mean,
it's like the it's like the dude, you know, it's
like the dude that runs the streets on his wife,
you know what I mean. To me, it's like, oh,
I was, you know, and then gets caught and it's like, hey, man,
I was. You know, I'm so sorry, sweet, you know,
(20:47):
he's lost my head for a minute. But now I'm
gonna come back and here's the you know, the five
Carrott diamond ring. I just I looked at that and like,
what were you doing in the first place? The glass
is not greener? Yeah, I mean you're gonna fire those
guys any how. And and now you made your whole
organization look bad because you took a guy that has
been a two time Super Bowl champion, two time m
(21:07):
v P and and you basically put the blame on him,
and like, hey, it's not us, it's him. He's not
any good. And I just looked at the ownership, like
you guys, are you guys the Mayor family, You're too
classy to let that happen to your franchise. I was
just disappointed in them in general. You signed off on
as an owner, That to me was that. That to
me is just it's not okay. Uh. Russell Wilson continues
(21:31):
to find a way to win games in spite of
the fact his line isn't very good, don't run the
football well, and the defense has been decimated in the
back end by injuries. How sustainable is this? Um? Listen?
The guy is a guy is Chris Angel right, I
mean he can make you disappear. That's that's Russell Wilson.
That dude is an illusion as he's a he's a
(21:52):
free show. Thirty touchdowns they have scored twenty nine. He's
been associated with I think twenty six touchdown passes in
three rushing touchdowns. Um, I mean, come on, dude, Like,
if that does not the m v P, put any
other quarterback, put Carson Wentz in that situation, put Tom
Brad in that situation. Do you think they are you know,
doing what Russell Wilson is doing. I mean we're scrambling
(22:14):
around just making I mean, freak show level plays without
without any protection, with no running game. Um, right now,
I'm I'm I'm hard pressed to said that. I don't
think I would put him as the number one m
VP candidate if if I'm voting right now, Uh, is
it sustainable if he continues to do things that are
freak show level, Yeah, it's sustainable. And if they start
(22:35):
playing that defense like they played the other night on
Sunday night against the against the Eagles, then yeah, I
think it is sustainable. Um, Eagles have only beaten one
team with a winning record. Does that leaves you to
be and considering how they played Granted on the road
in Seattle, they may not play on the road in
the playoffs. But what's your level of concern based upon,
(22:55):
uh One, the level of competition they played into how
they played on Sunday. Well, the level competition doesn't scare
me that much because they've throttled everybody, um plan on
the road. Here's the thing about that, and this is
just human nature when you're playing as good as they played.
They lost I think the second game of the season
to the Chiefs, and then they've gone on this incredible
run when you've played that well. And I know because
(23:18):
you know, I played on a team that started the
season eleven and oh and I played on another team
that started the season thirteen and oh, little things that
little things, you know, you don't you get to the
point where human nature is. You don't sweep the corners,
you know. It's just a little stuff that you're like,
hey man, we can't afford to offside here this holding call,
And everybody kind of goes, yeah, you know what, we
gotta clean that up. But when you're winning, it kind
(23:39):
of like, yeah, we gotta clean it up. But hey,
we're winning and we're crushing people and we're throttling everybody
that we play against, and so it's almost one of
those throwaway comments, Doug. I think one of these things
that happens to you when you lose. The coaching staff
brings you in and takes all those little things that
they said, Hey, this is gonna be a problem at
(24:00):
some point, guys, we're gonna clean this up. We gotta
clean this up. And they're able to dust all that
film law and give you a role like here's we
told you that this kind of penalty is gonna hurt us,
or this kind of mental mistake is gonna hurt us,
and they can show you. You know, in week four
we talked about this. Here it is. It showed up
in Seattle. In week seven, we talked about this, did
(24:22):
we not? And we all kind of laughed about it.
Here it is against Seattle. It shows up, and this
is why we lost that game. And that's why it's
so damn important to be dialed in at all times.
So this is a great teaching tape. You're on a
West Coast wing, you're gonna play the Rams next um
in Los Angeles. You can you can come away with
this West Coast Swing road trip one and one and
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you can learn a lot about your football team. So
this is a learning opportunity. I'm not concerned with Philadelphia.
They're an outstanding football team. Great stuff, Stinak, Where are
you this weekend? I am in Houston for San Francisco
against IT picks. What have you seen from Garoppolo on
tape so far? Well, so far, I've got it all download.
(25:06):
I haven't even looked at that tape yet, so I
will you know what. I will let you know exactly
what I see the next time we talked. But here's what.
Here's no, here's no, that's okay. I love your honest
here's what. Here's what I want to know. Okay. I'm
gonna ask you next week. You joined us up like
Mark Slayer's joining us. This is a true story and
you can attest to it. When Stink was in Washington,
they drafted a first round quarterback in the seventh round
(25:28):
quarterback same year. Correct? Correct? Heath Schuler was the first
round pick, right, and the seventh round pick was Gus Farrott.
I'm gonna say correct, okay, and Stink on the sideline
went up to one of the offensive coaches and said,
how come the seventh round picks better than the first
round pick? Is that about accurate. Yeah. I saw him practice.
(25:48):
I saw them both practice for the sum total of
about eight snaps apiece. And I said, the seventh rounder,
I told it, Mark my word, the seventh rounder is
gonna be ten times a quarterback first rounder is just
trust me better, Okay. So all I wanna know is
Canny play and you'll you'll watch him in person, you'll
watch him on tape. And I trust your eye way
(26:10):
more than I trust most anybody else's eye because you've
lived with some of the great quarterbacks in the nashvillelle
like and some bad ones as well. And so we'll
retouch this conversation next week. Deal perfect, great stuff, Take
care of your granddaughter. That's Mark Shlaire at three times
Super Bowl champion. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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(26:32):
Heart Radio app. The Niners. You might get a prettier
girl that's twenty one years old, twenty two years old, okay,
and she hasn't had kids, and she doesn't have one
of those called cat tails that with the what are
the wrinkles called that the women like they get the
boat tox for some something or other. Crow's feet, that's
a crow's feet. They might have crows like so what
(26:55):
so what right? Like you don't look good either, But
they're interesting and they're refined, and they've lived through the
good and the bad, so they understand. They understand to
not not. They're not super super emotional like younger men
and women are. It's the same thing with getting a quarterback.
You're the Niners and you get Donald, you get Rosen.
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They haven't seen light bullets. You don't know how they're
gonna react to uh an injury, a bad season, a
bad couple of seasons with their leaderships, like how they'll
act when they have money in their pocket. Like whereas Garoppolo,
he might not be the greatest quarterback on earth. He
may not. He may not be Joe Montana, might not
be Steve Young. But you know what, He's lived in
(27:36):
the league. He's played on championship teams. He's been around
a little bit, been around a bunch of different coordinators.
He's a he's a plus thirty five year old woman,
which to me is way more attractive than a twenty
one year old woman. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug gott Leaps show weekdays at three pm
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. I feel like this is a huge
(27:58):
story which he is not being discussed at all. Derek
Jeter is coming into the Miami Marlins partial owner and
he is cleaning house. He stupidly got rid of my boy,
Rich Walts, who's just an outstanding play by playvoice, but
not his guy. I don't know why a play by
play voice should be changed. That makes no sense to me.
(28:21):
That makes absolutely no sense, like, uh, voice of a team,
that's a relationship which is built. And while you might
get something like I want my guy, like he's never
been disloyal and he speaks, the Miami fans are used
to him, and he's more than companies excellent at his job,
(28:43):
Like what are you doing? The sad thing was he
didn't even get one of those parting gift bags away.
All of Derek Jeters one night stands got those giftbacks.
I can't believe at least send him a Yeah Jeets
gift bag if you're going to fire the dude anyway.
But they're trying to clean house with the roster as well,
(29:04):
which is kind of part for the course with even
previous Miami Marlin's ownership back when they were the Florida Marlins.
You're good, then he clean house. You start over. Good,
you clean house, you start over. John Carlos Stanton had
a remarkable season. John Carlos Stanton is entering his prime
as a baseball player. He's also entering the prime of
a backloaded contract which would pay him two hundred and
(29:25):
ninety five million dollars in the last you know, couple
of years of it. That's five years of it. It's
a sick deal. It's a pro John Carlos Stanton deal,
and it's one to which he has a no trade
clause that he can take off or keep on for
whatever team he'd like. We're still waiting to find out
if you'll take it off for the Cardinals and the
(29:46):
San Francisco Giants, two teams that have offered reportedly the
best deals for Stanton. But I guess my question is this,
with the John Carlos Stanton trade being imminent, why in
the hell would he go to San Francisco? Why would
you go San Francisco sucked last year? And if you
want to tell me that, yeah, Madison bum Garden was
(30:08):
hurt and he's not usually hurt. Okay, I want to
tell me that Johnny Quato had a down year for
the first time and like, okay, but like dude, pitchers
lose it really really quickly. They still need a third baseman,
they'd still need a center fielder, they still need help
in their bullpen. And last I checked, they're still in
the same division with the Dodgers, who are better, who
(30:31):
are better? And the Rockies and the Diamondbacks. And oh yeah,
by the way, if you're John Carlos Stanton, like you
do know that San Francisco is a terrible place to
hit home runs if you're right handed. Like it is
designed basically, it is designed for old school baseball, with
the exception of a short right field porch because it
(30:52):
was built when they had Barry Bonds huge outfield. So
I feel like this is one of those destined to
fail moves. And then the St. Louis Cardinals are invested
and involved and willing to pick up two and I
(31:14):
thought the Cardinals come out looking so smart because they
never really changed their offer for our pool holes and
pool holes is aging badly with the UH with the Angels.
It's a terrible deal. They're gonna sign up for Stanton
for terrible deal. I don't I don't get it. I
(31:36):
don't get it. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Heart Radio app. Quick takeaway on the on the Warriors
and Pelicans fight. If you haven't been paying attention, here's
what everybody in the NBA is trying to do. They're
trying to punk the Warriors. They're trying to punk the Warriors.
(32:03):
The word is out because of what's happened to them
in the NBA finals the last two years, what happened
to them with the Celtics, what's happened to them in
a couple of different games, what happened to them when
they played in Oklahoma City. Is officials, Sometimes we call
the game a little bit looser. Let you get away
with some stuff. When Oklahoma City comes in Oklahoma City
(32:23):
scene as a finesse team and you're gonna try and
make it ugly, You're gonna try and be extra sort
of tough. You're gonna try and punk them. That's what's happening.
That's why Kevin dur Kevin Rendon getting a fight DeMarcus
Cousins trying to punk him. Steph Curry sprains his ankle.
Like the takeaway is really really simple. Once you get
(32:45):
her scattered report out on you. In the NBA, everybody's
going to try. It's no different than the NFL. What's
happened to the Kana City Chiefs. People like, forget playing man,
let's play zone and you know, just let Alex Smith
dump everything to check everything to oun, go ahead, check
stuff down, and we just gather to the ball, run
to the ball and tackle, you know, make make sure
(33:06):
handed tackles. And they've been the Chiefs have been unable
to adjust to the adjustment. Once you get a scattered report,
people are going to try and execute that scatterport. That's
what happened to the Warriors. And you know what the
Warriors did. They dropped thirty seven in the fourth quarter
after dropping thirty nine in the third quarter. I mean
(33:27):
they've shown in reality that they can take a punch
and land a CounterPunch without swinging at all. Right, Like,
that's a seventy seven point second half. That's a you
want to be tough, guys, Fine, here's a couple of
three pointers and a couple of more Steph drop, Storty
one and eleven Clay Thompson drops. They end up winning
(33:51):
by ten. With the New Orleans Pelicans, scatter report is out.
The only way you're gonna beat the Warriors is by
mugging the Warriors, and that's exactly what the Pelicans tried
to do and it didn't work. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
(34:14):
and the I Heart Radio app. The Browns have invested
time and resourced and play coaching into Deshaun kaijer this year,
which is good for him. This is from Pro Football Talk.
Since the amount of time is almost certainly gonna cut
into whichever quarterback they draft the top of next year,
Browns coach Hugh Jackson conceded the obvious on Monday by
saying this, we can't have too many good quarterbacks right
(34:37):
now on this football team. We have to use resources
at that position and go get the right guy that
we feel comfortable with to pair them with some of
the players we have here to come up with the
best quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, so the idea
is they're probably gonna go out and add another one.
They have the number one and number seven pick if
the draft was to come down today, and so people
(34:59):
are trying to one whether or not Kaiser is the guy.
My NFL guys have told me that Kaiser finally looks
like the leader that he wasn't in at Notre Dame
the last two weeks with the Cleveland Browns and while
the Cleveland while the Cleveland Browns appeared to be a
complete dysfunctional mess, not knowing if they should trade for
(35:19):
a J McCarron, if they should not trade for ajmcare
By the way, j mcaren gave me a free agent
in this offseason, they can actually sign a J McCarron.
So the fact that that trade didn't go through, the
possibility is they can still get him anyway. But many
of the holes that they have are being short up.
(35:41):
Gordon came back and he's put a good The defense
is young, pretty athletic. The offensive line is not great,
but they're playing without Joe Thomas. He'll be back. Like
they're not the worst thing on earth. I kind of
feel like, um, I kind of feel like what what
(36:01):
he was saying is the general wild, wild, wildly held
belief in football, which is, you know, it's all kind
of a numbers thing, like your hit rate is, you're
not gonna hit on just one guy. You kind of
got to throw numbers at it. That's the belief. And
I'll give you the um, I'll give you the the
(36:22):
best kind of parallel to it. Here's a college football story.
You guys aware of the sanctions on Old Miss music.
Do you know what happened with Old Miss with the
with with the sanctions. Yeah, well they had some self
imposed postseason bands and sacrifice a couple of scholarships. But
then the n c A came down and took away
(36:43):
even more scholarship. Right, so players can transfer out. Andy
are in fact transfer out um. And I don't know
if you know who their their quarterback is, but he's
actually super super talented athletic. His names Shaye Patterson. Okay,
Shay Patterson is a off more. He's from Shreveport, Louisiana.
(37:03):
He uh uh this year he's he's and he's a
run pass threat as a quarterback. He's visiting Michigan. Now,
remember Michigan also has Dylan McCaffrey sitting out. That's Christian
McCaffrey's brother, who is a four star product and supposedly
another potential Michigan quarterback. If you've watched Michigan play football,
(37:26):
they are All you need to know is if they
had a quarterback, they'd be playing in the college football
playoff period. And so instead of saying, hey, look I
believe in Dylan McCaffrey, he's like, I like that Dan McCaffrey.
I got a bunch of other guys, and I got
guys on the way and maybe Shape Patterson. Because football
(37:48):
is a numbers game, right There's a hit rate, and
even if your hit rate is high, it's like fifty
or sixty. And I kind of think that's what the
Cleveland Browns are going with, Like do we have to
Shawan Kaiser? Yeah? Is he rightly? Maybe maybe we go
out and get a j mccaren too, or maybe we
draft a quarterback, or maybe we have all three and
(38:09):
just try and get a one in three. If we
find one good quarterback out of three, we found our
good quarterback.
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