December 20, 2017 • 46 mins
Doug talks about the Patriots banning Tom Brady's personal training from the facilities and why that makes them different than most teams in professional sports. He discusses LaVar Ball trying to start his own professional basketball league and why it won't work. And Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network joins the show to talk about the Eagles playoff chances with Nick Foles as their quarterback and whether the Jaguars are a serious Super Bowl contender with the way Blake Bortles has been playing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Dog dot Lead show
on Fox Sports Radio. Oh what up America. Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio coming to you from the City of
angels Or in his beautiful seventy degrees and Sonny welcome in.
We have an outstanding show for you. Daniel Jeremiah from
the NFL Network will join us upcoming in fifteen minutes.
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We'll ask him if it's okay to buy into Blake
Bortles and if my Bortles theory uh is the right
Bortals theory. And if you have missed yesterday you can
always download the podcast. Whoever podcasts are downloaded iTunes, gonna
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We posted there. Twitter page posted there as well. Um,
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but look, my basic thought on Blake Portals as this
before I get to Tom Brady and what's going on
in New England with the Patriots. Um, we have we have,
we have changed, we have changed how we're a value
winning Blake Portals right like we've gone from Blake Portles
is not a competent of starting quarterback to even take
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a snap from center for the Jacksonville Jaguars to where
we are now, which is, well, you know, he's more
than competent, but he's not good enough to win a
super with Like, if you're reasonable, he has reasonably and
maybe unreasonably exceeded all expectations for his ability to progress
this year. If you go back and you watch preseason
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Jacksonville Jaguars games, he was skipping passes. He was completely lost.
He looked a shell, he looked like mentally he was shot.
And now he's not so to go from there to here.
Now we're like, well, maybe you can't win to Super
with him. You're probably right, but that doesn't mean that
this season hasn't been a win for Alright, more on
that with Daniel Jeremiah upcoming. Patriars just want to be like,
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here's the difference in organizations. We we talked to you
yesterday about Ben Roethlisberger, and you know, now Ben Rothsburger
suddenly has amnesia. He can't remember exactly what happened on
that play that led to the you know, game ending interception.
Like now he has amnesias, Like you know what, I'm
gonna go, Senator, I don't recall that's what he's done.
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We talked about the difference in Patriots and I Steelers, right,
the Steelers quarterback is like, look, I thought we should
have spiked the ball. I didn't like but but you know,
my bad on the interception. We never hear any of
that from Brady. When Brady plays poorly, it's I played poorly.
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When he plays well, it's we played well. But but
in case you didn't know what what Bob McNair, the
owner of the text and said, is in fact accurate
and appropriate for the best run organizations, the best run
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sports teams. Bob McNair courps gotten the hot water because
he was talking about football players and their protests and
how that was viewed and whatever, and he's like, hey,
the inmates don't run the prison. And suddenly if you're
like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, um people trying to make
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the correlation between prison and as black guys that are protesting,
he's got to be talking about black people when he
was simply reforming a commonly used phrase, which is inmates
don't run the asylum, which if you really, if you
want to be that guy that takes that next unnecessary
step of connecting race with commonly used expressions, like you're
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saying These people that are protesting are crazy. It's an expression.
But the Patriots have stripped Tom Brady's trainer of various
team privileges. Apparently there's a riff between the trainer and
Bill Belichick. This according to report in The Boston Globe,
Alex Guerrero is the guy's name Tom Brady. I'm not
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sure where. He had a book out called the TB
twelve Method. They partnered together to launch the TB twelveth Center,
where Brady and several other Patriot players have trained and
received treatment since it opened two thousand thirteen. According to
The Globe, Guerrero, who has an office near the Patriots
locker room, will no longer be permitted to treat players
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other than Brady in his office. He's also reportedly banned
from boarding the Patriots jets they have two of them,
and his sideline access is in fact revoked. Belichick. Brady
told w E I it's a Boston station quote. I
don't have any comment other than say that Alex, it's
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been well documented, has been huge part of what I do,
and I'm so fortunate to have him not only as
a friend, but with everything we've been able to do
together He's a huge, huge reason while I'm still playing.
He's called him a genius. You go back to his ESPN,
the magazine article, you go to his book. Other patriots
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have bought into the TV twelve method. Those one of
them is Julian Edelman, who tours a c L this
year in a non contact injury. He's got Tom Brady
completely convinced that you've gotta be pliable, you've gotta be flexible,
you have to eat this special diet, and because of it,
that's why you're able to play after the age of forty.
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I mean, this is nothing other than it's like, hey,
if you're a scientologist, like, that's cool. We just don't
need you spreading the message of scientology in our locker room. Right.
That's basically what this is. And this is Bill Belichick saying, Hey,
the inmates don't run the asylum, the prison, the locker room.
They just don't. Tom Brady is a great player. Whatever
he wants to do, however he wants to train, fine,
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do it. Whatever it takes for you to get ready,
Get ready, right. Serrano wanted to sacrifice a live chicken,
can do a live chicken. Somebody will get a bucket
of KFC. All right, that's how you manage words. Teams
inmates can't run the prison, the asylum and the best
and the perfect example of why the Patriots get more
out of less year after year is they keep their
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best player in check. Best players in check, and companies
that run a muck don't right you You coach your
best player the hardest, not the softest. Now you have
to know that some guys can't take it, some guys
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will in fact break down. But the last twenty four
hours of news comparing the Patriots and how they're handling this,
and the Steelers and how they're handling the loss, and
now all of a sudden, the sudden amnesia, Senator I
can't recall from Ben Roethlisberger tells you all you need
to know about the organizations. When the defense was awful
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to start the year with an England Patriots and still
not good when DIVA. Did you ever hear Tom Brady say,
you know, we get a stop now and again, right,
I haven't learn any of that, any discussion of that.
And though they may have sideline tips, there is no
getting in front of the microphone and Tom Brady disagreeing
with Josh McDaniel's play calls none of that. That doesn't
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happen even now when they boot out his trainer, a
guy who Tom Brady believes is partially and maybe mostly
and you if you read his book, he he almost
thinks solely responsible for his longevity. They don't like, hey, dude,
stay out of our locker room. Don't treat our guys,
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Stay off our jet, stay off for our sideline like
this dude's getting too the Heisman, stay away. You want
to work with Brady, fine, do that cookie workout stuff there.
The rest of our guys, we have paid professionals, paid professionals.
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So I mean, look, do you even look at the
at the New York Giants, right They tried to appease
Eli Manning by going to Eli and going like, listen, Eli,
we're gonna start you, but we might pull you at
the end of the game. Elis like, look, I don't
want to start start somebody else. I'm above that. That
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does not pertain to me. I am Eli Manning. I
have won two Super Bowls, I have never missed a game,
and I don't need your cockamami streak so that you
can replace me in the fourth quarter. Of a game
we're not supposed to win anyway, And so they relented, no,
not starting him the last two games. They relented him
previous to that by not starting him at all, and
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that showed that they did not have the ability to lead.
Like look, they went to the owner and the owner
was like, sure, I don't love it, but okay, I
get it, gentle manager on board, coach on board, ownership
on board. Eli not on board. Okay, why do you
have to go to Eli Manning? Well, you guys don't understand.
He's Eli Manning. So he's a football player. He collexis
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checks his check, does not change whether he plays three
quarters or four doesn't change a penny. So you could
have either not gone to him or and and done
it anyway, or gone to him and he's like, no,
I don't want to start, Like, no, no no, you're starting.
This is what we're doing. If you're not going to start,
that is your call. There's you making decision that you
don't want to start, not us. We want to start you.
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We love you, try and win games. We just want
you to to know that we're we gotta get these other
guys some reps. But when the inmates run the asylum.
This is what brings places down. Happens in our business.
Look around the landscape. When people overreact and go based
upon what the players want, doesn't say well with the fans.
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Same thing in TV and radio, any business. You could
make suggestions. There's a suggestion box over there. We can
go play golf and you can say, hey, you know,
there's one idea. But generally bosses like to be bosses.
They don't like to be told what to do. They've
been waiting their whole lives to be in charge. Be
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. That's welcome
to Dann and Jeremiah from the NFL Network. I know
what DJs thing is like. You're Jewish, like I like Christmas.
I like good like good music. It could be about
Kwanza good music like. I don't don't care. DJ. You're
San Diego guy. Have you ever experienced a white Christmas?
White Christmas? I live in with school in North Carolina
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in the mountains, so it's got a little bit snowy
up there. Always got home before you guys. Were you
guys still playing still around campus? Then? Yeah, we were
one double A playoffs man, we were. We were deep
into the playoff hunt every year. So it was always
it was always like a week before Christmas and then
would be usually we'd be done and then get out
of there. So never on Christmas Day have I had
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have I had a white Christmas? But I do have
a show idea for you. I think every bump, just
pick one random day, maybe you do it once a week,
and you just sing the ball. I mean, you just
get the all you need a track. You got a
beautiful voice, man, just just just take it over. Yeah. Stop.
It's like my son. My son had a Christmas performance
or a holiday performance wheter it said Mary everything by
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the way, for at his school. And he's like me,
like he likes to sing, he likes to wrap, he
likes to dance, but he's not good at any of
those three. And my daughter's actually can sing. They make
sure and let us let us know. Um, all right,
if if there was one gift you could get from
your wife for Christmas, what would it be like that,
what's the one thing you really really want? You appreciate this.
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We just move and I need we don't have a
hoop at this house, so I gotta get a hoop.
Who I can help you with that? My son, we
just moved here and so we don't really have a
spot for a hoop, but we have a huge garage
and we're my son. Just that kind of hit me
up to Day's like I did ask Santa for a hoop.
I hope he brings a hoop. I hope he knows
it's kind of hard to get it in there. But
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I was like, all right, it looks like I need
to talk to Santazelle's about heading over to Dick's Sporting
Goods and let me ask you about Bortles Blake burtles
in the Jacksonville Jaguars. I do think that one of
the things that's changed. We started the year, like, dude,
that guy can't even start for Game one, and so
he's clearly been able to be at least a solid
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quarterback and over the last month, granted against some bad defense,
is he's been a very good starting quarterback. So we're
holding him to a completely different level of kind of
accountability now as opposed to the start of the year.
Give me your sense of how much. Do you think
he'll hold them back in their quest to win playoff games? Well, lookay,
we come off with a couple of years ago watching
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Peyton Manning, who was way done. I mean, I'm not
comparing Portles Pete Manning over the life of their career,
but the man that we saw win a Super Bowl
with the Broncos was not very good, and it was
a defense dominated team and they didn't put him in
bad situations. He didn't have to chase. I mean, I
think that's one of the major differences is this defense
is so dang dominant that he's never in a chase position.
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Um are always in kind of they want to be
they want to be aggressive an attack. They can do it,
but they're never in a situation where everybody knows, hey,
you you gotta throw the ball. UM. So he looks
his confidence has has risen and he's playing solid football.
I know people keep saying that Blake's playing out of
his mind. I'm like, no, he's not. He's just taking
kind of what's there. He's he's playing solid football. And
I think with that defense, the way they can suffocate you,
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I don't think you want to see them in the postseason. Yeah,
I'm I'm intrigued by it. Let's let's get to the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Um. Look, I mean, they very easily could
have won that game if not for this crazy cockamamie
ruling of what completely a process off it catches that said,
they're not gonna have Shas here. I don't know when
they'll have Antonio Brown. And then there's this weird disconnect
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between coach and player, right Like Big Ben's like, look,
I didn't I wanted to clock the ball, he keeps saying,
And he's like, you know, my bad in the interception,
but I wanted to clock the ball. And then and
then people asked him about the actual route and he's like,
I don't member. Whereas their head coach, he's like, hey,
look it's Ben Rossberger. He calls plays the last. He
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can change his mind, last, curage, whatever he wants. What
do you make of the lack of accountability for Big
Ben as to what went wrong at the end of
that game. Well, I'll be consistent here because this is
the kind of stuff we would say, you know, with
Robert Griffin the thirds press conferences, um, all throughout the years.
So he just couldn't didn't handle himself the right way,
and people thought that was unfair when he was criticized. Look,
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I love you the same criticism to bend. The rule
is simple for quarterback stug in press conferences, it's very
very simple. Anything goes wrong, you own it. Um, anything
goes right, you share it. And to me, Ben kind
of broke that rule with his response to that no
matter what happened, Look, you just you own it. You
wear it. Hey, I gotta be better. You know, you
get your teeth even if it's not the truth. You
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said that I screwed up. I gotta do better. It's
on me. Um, I'll get it fixed. That's just how
you answer those questions. I don't know why, Um he
went the direction he did, but I think in order
to be fair, you know, if you're gonna criticize some
of these other guys for saying stupid stuff after games,
I think bends first year here, no no question about that. Um.
Do you think they can win a Super Bowl? Get
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to a Super Bowl? Considering the injuries they have and
now the likelihood they have to go on the road,
I don't think they can beat New England's Um. I don't.
I don't like that matchup. And I don't know why
New England didn't wear them out with cronks in the
first half. They waited to do that a little bit later.
But Shasier that that's a huge missing piece for them.
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And and I think New England once, especially you get
into a postseason um win or go home type atmosphere,
they will wear their weakness out and they're gonna put
those linebackers in coverage with facts and tight ends, and
I don't think they're gonna be able to slow them down. Yeah,
I tend to agree with you. Daniel Jeremiah from the
NFL Network also has a great podcast called Move the Sticks.
Uh he and Bucky Brooks. You can download that podcast.
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It's fantastic. Bucky's joined us as well. DJ joined just
throughout the NFL season. Um, look, the Eagles offense was
in great against the Giants. It's just one week, but
you know, like, look, the Eagles kind of puffed out
their chest after Wentz went down, Like, look, we invested
a lot of money in our backup quarterback and this
is why. But how big a drop off is there
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now with no wins and falls in there? Well, I mean, look,
he goes four touchdowns, no picks. To me, I came
out of that game after watching the tape, I think
that you know, look, it's the left tackle, Doug when
you watch that, that's what scares me if I'm the Eagles.
I mean, Jason Peters, you know, not being in there
is one thing. When you've got Wentz, who can you know,
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do some Houdini stuff and get out of trouble. The
fall is not gonna be able to get out of
waste some of that stuff. And he got beat up
pretty good by Olivia Vernon in that game, So that
would be a major concern for me. The Giants kind
of switched up what they were doing. They tried to
rush three and four, then they tried to bring heavy pressure.
I thought Falls handled it pretty well. Um to me
with that with that team right now, left tackles my
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number one concern, and the secondary is number two. I mean,
Eli Manning and a team with two wins that's got
every reason to pack it in and they throw for
four or in thirty yards or whatever they threw for
in that game, they need to they need They're gonna
be a team that I look for them to rest guys.
If they can get it done and secure the bye
or the number one seed this week, you won't see
any of them in the last week, and they need
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to get those secondary players fresh. They look a little
bit heavy legged. Let me ask you about the Rams
as they go in and they just curb stomp the
Seattle Seahawks. There they were up thirty and forty to
forty to nothing in that game. You've watched the tape.
Was it as bad as the score would indicate? Yeah,
it was a line of scrimmage beating. Um. It was
the first play of the game. You watch it, They
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go fourteen yards and there you know, Tyler Higbee the
tight end, and I did all their preseason games. I thought,
you know, he's an effort guy at the game, but
not the best run blocker that you're ever gonna see
from the tight end position. He takes a safety and
drives him about fifteen yards down the field on the
very first play of the game. And it was it
was like that across the board. Up front, they just
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dominated the Seahawks. I mean, Gurly, as great as he was,
it was not the most difficult running he's had to
do in his career. Danner Jeremiah joining us in the
Doug Gotlip Show. All right, So what about the the uh,
the Rams. You know, we've talked about some of the
other teams and there you know, the Eagles and their
playoff hopes. What is your sense for how legitimate the
Super Bowl possibilities are for the l A Rams. No,
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I think it's legit. I think you you look at
what they can do on the line of scrimmage. Talked
about how their offensive line dominant that dominated that game.
You look at Aaron Donald was unblockable. So when you're
that good in the trenches and you can get you know,
solid quarterback play, which is I think what golf gives them. Yeah,
I mean, I think there's so many teams at NFC
is wide open. When you look at Minnesota, what they
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can do with their dominant defense, You've got the Rams.
Talked about the Eagles, I think they're still formidable. And
then to me, the Cowboys if they sneak in, UM,
that's a dangerous team with the healthy Shawn Lee and
if you get to you know, you get Zeke rolling again. Um.
In regards to the Seahawks, you know they do have
massive injuries and I know that that Wagner played, um,
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but but they haven't had Cliff Avor obviously, they don't
have Cam Chancellor, and they don't have Richard Sherman. Is
this simply, Hey, let's get guys healthy, make a coustbo adjustments,
or they need to gut it and start over. It
sounds like they're they're headed towards the gut it and
start over. I think they're really up against it from
a salary cap standpoint, Um, and you've got some age
in the back end, and those guys are all time
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great players. But I think you're gonna see kind of
the whole whole reboot there. You've got a young quarterback
you can build around Bobby Wagner's young and in his prime,
and you can build around him on the defense. But
it sounds like there's gonna be a whole lot of
change everywhere else. And I'm kind of fascinated to see
if Pete if he wants to stick around for what
could be a year or two of them kind of
going through the process, which is not going to result
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in a lot of a lot of postseason runs. Yeah,
especially with Garoppolo looking like he's a dude and the
Rams are being having just loaded, absolutely loaded loaded with
with with draft picks. Yeah, the Rams. The interesting thing
with the Rams, real quick tug, is that now there
in the position that the Seahawks were in where they're
going to get good quarterback play on the cheap with
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the rookie contract, which is gonna allow them to continue
to bring in assets while Golf is still on that
rookie deal. So they've kind of flipped. Really, They've got
the Seattle thing going that Seattle had a few years ago,
no question about it. Dan Jeremiah joining us um. Okay,
the Packers decided to sit Aaron Rodgers last two games
of the season, and I see no win in I
don't see any win in playing Eli Manning, let alone
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playing Aaron Rodgers coming off injury. What's your reaction to
that news? That was a no brainer. I mean I
was kind of shocked with seeing some people kind of
push back on that and they wanted to see him
out there. Why uh, these are meaningless, meaningless games and
just get him a full offseason, get him healthy and
be ready to go to the off season program. Um.
As soon as they were liminated, I mean, I was like,
this is you don't have to take much time to
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delivery on this one. I don't care how much he
wants to play, you can't play him in these meaningless games.
Tend to agree. I just people kind of get caught
caught up in the well, why did you bring him?
But we brought him back to try and make the playoffs.
It didn't work. It didn't work. Now we now we
ready for next year. Um, speaking of getting ready for
next year, in your opinions to Josh Rosen playing the
ball game, well, this is something a lot of people
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are talking about. I think in a normal um, in
a in a normal situation, if he was just viewed
as this pristine character off the field and personality wise
was off the chart, I think he probably could have
got away with not playing in this game. And some
people in the media would hit him, but I don't
think from a team standpoint they would really care. But
I think with him with some of those questions existing,
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you know, Okay, well, the question the questions are does
he love football? Right? Then that's a that's a big
question and so and so for him because he's he
is a quarterback, it's a different position and there are
different questions about him. I mean, doesn't he done he
kind of had to play. Yeah, that's what That's what
I'm getting to. I think that's exactly the case. Now.
If it was uh, you know, say, if it was
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Sam Donald and they were playing in a lower level
bowl coming off of a season where they're or whatever
U c l A is, what seven and five or
six and six, seven and five, barely getting into a
bowl game, I don't think anybody would have really, you know,
batted and eye if he said I'm gonna start training
and get ready. Um, But with Josh is a little
bit different. So I think he if he's healthy, I
think you've got to go out there. Um. The Patriots
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have stripped Tom Brady's trainer of some of these extra privileges. Right,
he can still work with Tom Brady, but not anybody else.
Can't be in the sidelines, can't be on the team plane.
You've been in the league, you've been in an NFL
front office for um, when you hear this, what do
you think it's it's a little bit concerning. I just
think because you always wonder how that thing is really
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going to end there, and uh, you know, I think
that's kind of the first sign of maybe a little
bit of a crack in the in the relationship between
head coach and quarterback. But I tend to agree with
with Belichick on this one. I mean, I think you
make um, you make the rules a little bit different
for Tom. You can have his guy work out with
his guy, didn't have to be involved with what they're
doing their own strength program. But you're talking about team
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planes and doing all that song and dance. I kind
of get where Belichick is like, Okay, that's enough. Yeah, no,
no quite and and and frankly, that's It's one of
those things where you know, I I don't know if
you know this. A couple of years ago, he used
to take a helicopter. Uh, he used to take a
helicopter home, so to avoid traffic is traffic there is
the worst. And they finally pushed back and like, now
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you can't do that. Every he can't do that. You know,
nobody else is allowed to do that. You can't do
that as well. Yeah, no, it's one thing. Look, you
get two seats in first class to stretch out a
little bit. You get some perks for being Tom Brady.
But I think that some of these things go above
and beyond that Daniel Jeremiah. The podcast is called Move
the Sticks. I didn't I when I asked you, I
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didn't say what I asked you? What you want to get? You?
You want a basketball hoop in your house? I'm talking
about you. I love. Look, since I tore my achilles,
I don't. I don't. I don't play pick up anymore,
but I'll I love. But to me, my relaxing thing
to do is to just go get a bunch of
jumpers up. So not having that in this house has
been brutal. Well, you have the ability, you have a
you have a half court space, full court space. I
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gotta I'm gonna have to go kind of a little bit. Uh,
I guess is it is it considered like we say
trailer trash order, I'm gonna go front yard. I got
a big driveway, so it's not trailer trash. If it's
done nicely, it's not trailer trash. Yeah, but I'm going.
I'm I'm hooping in the front yard. Man, I've got
a beautiful may make sure you don't get a ceramic backboard?
Makes you sure you get a glass backboard? Come on,
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I am just I just telling people like and This
is for for mothers or fathers out there. Like, don't
get a ceramic backboard to where you could you could
fire it like a bullet. And if a soramic backboard,
it just drops into the net, right, Like, that's not
a real backboard. Get a real glass backboard. Come on, yeah,
go bigger, go home on Yeah exactly. Daniel Jeremiah from
the NFL Network, DJ, Merry Christmas, thanks for joining us.
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Getting these players is going to be easy. This is
giving guys a chance that she had a jump start
in their careers to be seen by pro scouts. We're
gonna pay them because someone has to pay these kids.
So here's the thing. Okay, first, like his math's all off, right,
Like I want eight players for ten teams. You want
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eight guys on a team, bro, this is not a
a U. Okay, you can't have You can't have eight
guys on a team like that. And like, I don't
know if you know how numbers work, but eight guys
on a team, Guys just don't show up. Guys get hurt,
Guys get sick, Guys change their mind, Guys don't like
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the coach, Guys don't like other players in the team. Like,
what basketball team, what professional or collegiate basketball team on Earth?
Only has eight guys under contract? Like, just forget about that.
If I just if I take LaVar Ball, who's never
run the league. All he's done is coach his son's
AU teams. He's never run a league, never run an event. Hey, um,
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he has no true business school background. None. If I
take that out of the mix, and I just say Hey,
we're gonna get it. We're gonna get a ten team
league up, even even if it's an old man league.
Eight is the bare minimum, the bare minimum. Now you
get the professional collegian sports, real teams, eight guys in
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the league. Like, dude, your math is so far off.
He's like, look, all that matters is we somebody's got
to pay these guys. And oh yeah, by the way,
if they're compensation, and people are freaking out, twelve ten
a month compensation, Like you're not gonna play, You're not
gonna pay him over a twelve months, not gonna twenty grand.
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You know, it's like a four or five month season.
You're gonna have a guy four to your fifty grand.
Well again, if if you if you view college athletics
the way I view college athletics, where it's an unbelievable
opportunity at a free education that normally cost people, you know,
anywhere from twenty to h to seventy five grand post
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tax per year, like you're actually barely if anything matching.
Because remember, if you are paid ten grand a month,
you gotta pay taxes on the ten grand a month. Oops, right,
so ten grand a month really take home is I
don't know, six or seven a month. You gotta pay
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your taxes, and oh yeah, by the way, if you
don't want to go to college, you can go to
the G League right now, playing the G League for
a year, play coach by NBA coaches. Yes, they actually
have twelve thirteen guys on a team playing nice arenas,
practice against at times the NBA players in their training camps,
and then hopefully get a call up or get drafted.
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You can't play in the NBA your first year, but
you can get drafted after your first year. So there's
a red herring to the fact that this opportunity actually
previously exists for about the same pay. And then there's
the idea you've got a guy who's never run any
sort of league or any basketball event, has no real
bad business acumen, and he's gonna pay for it at
a big baller brand which isn't making enough money to
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being paying for a league. And then oh yeah, he's like, well,
we'll just do an NBA arenas. You know, the NBA
arenas cost money, Like there's a reason that the w
n b A has moved to smaller venues because they
cost less money. There is nothing about this plan that
makes any sort of sense. I feel like this is
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was the principle in Billy Madison? Wasn't that it music?
Although Billy Madison might be a little old of me,
that might actually be a dated reference. Ramas, Wasn't it
the principal in Billy Madison that othered the words? Um,
we're all dumber for what you have what you just heard? Right?
Nobody says was it the principle or because they were doing, um,
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they were doing some debate. I don't know if it
was the principle of the person who was like conducting
like the debate that they were doing, but I know
what you're talking about. Yeah, we're all now dumber for
having to listen to what you just said. Thank you. Yes,
That's exactly how I feel about LaVar Ball's proposal. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Peter
Kang joins us from the MMQUB dot com geek enter
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geek purchase. Peter, how are you everything's going great, Doug.
Happy holidays and your yeah, marry everything. As they said
to my son's school earlier today, Um boy boy boy.
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Uh the Jerry richard thing, I mean, that thing happened
really really quickly. Your magazine, John Worthime did that outstanding
investigative peace and then you know, he steps aside. Now
the team just happens to be for sale. Does this
have any effect on the day to day of the team. Uh, well,
we'll find out. I mean nothing, nothing's going to change
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between now and the last snap of the football season. Uh.
But what we don't know is we don't know yet
how is this going to affect free agency? How is
this going to affect draft prep? I mean, is Marty
Hearny now the permanent general manager? He basically was, you know,
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hired to be the GM the rest of the year.
And so no one knows this stuff yet because we're
still in the sort of the infancy of of what happened.
The one thing I do feel I don't want to
say strongly about, but I think is is eminently likely
is that, uh Jerry Richardson will at least attempt to
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put a writer on the terms of sale that says,
we want to keep We're going to sell this to
somebody's going to keep it in Charlotte. So, uh, I
don't get much of a I don't. I don't get
a sense that there's a great chance. I mean, never
say never, but I don't get a sense that there's
a great chance that this is going to be the
London Panthers. All right, let's let's let's go around the league.
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What's the league's reaction to Aaron Rodgers being shut down
to the last two games of the regular season. Oh,
I have not I've not spoken to a soul about it,
I think, but I think the general reaction is, uh,
if the Packers are not in it at all and
Aaron Rodgers is at you know, and not, why would
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he play that? Plus the fact that this just gives
more opportunity for Brett Hunley to uh to show his
stuff against two pretty good teams. And I think I
would do the precise same. Look if the Packers were
still in it, I would play Rogers against Minnesota, But
without them being in it, I don't see any reason
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why he should play Seattle. Seahawks gets stopped for a
second week and Rother there down forty to nothing at
home to the Rams. Um, it really is remarkable. Um.
Do you think they are like, look, we we're gonna
get Richard Sherman back, how they get Cam Chancellor, Let's
let's just kind of ride this thing out. Or do
you think they gut it and start over? Um? I
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think that the one thing that the Seahawks have to
do right now is determined, Okay, who's going to be
on this ship next week, our next year, rather, who's
gonna who's gonna coach this team? Is gonna be the
GM who's going to be on this defense? Who are
we keeping? Who are we not keeping? I mean, does
Pete Kara want to go in for the rebuild retool,
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because that's what it's going to be. It's not gonna
be overwhelming, but there's a lot of work that needs
to be done, starting on the offensive line and then
starting when when you're four best defensive players are all
twenty eight or older. Uh, you know, in two thousand eighteen,
time to move on, you gotta go. So my feeling
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right now is that I think that is a team
that could really get shaken up this offseason. It Doug,
you know, it isn't only the Rams that seemingly have
passed the Sea is not just the Rams. And I'm
not saying the forty Niners have passed him, But look
at the forty Niners the last three weeks, three and oh,
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and they got a quarterback who looks like he's going
to be a huge star. And so you're gotta worry
about the forty Niners. You've got a coach and a
general manager with a five year contract and about eight
billion dollars of cap room. So I mean, I'd be
pretty worried about the forty Niners as well as the Rams,
I would agree. And everybody in the league seems to
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think that de Garoppolo is uh is the guy that
he looks the part of a franchise quarterback. He's gonna
get franchise quarterback money, and that looks to be a
great trade for the San Francisco forty Niners future. Uh.
It's it's it's one of the things that that complicates
how much of a rebuild you have to go through
for Seattle. Doug gotlic show Fox Sports Trader, that's the
voice of Peter King. The MMQB dot Com is, of course,
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his outstanding website, there's podcast there as well. Um, let's
let's go to the Pittsburgh where look the Jesse, the
Jesse James play and the I'm at some point they're
gonna have to have to tinker with this rule, I
would think. Um. But regardless of which, the fact was,
they it felt like they were disorganized there at home
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in the situation where it's not a new coach is
not a new quarterback. And afterwards, Roethlisberger pointed fingers away
as much as he pointed figures towards himself and Mike Tomlins, like, hey, look,
this is a veteran star quarterback, like he can make
the call at the line of scrimmage. Why do you
think that coach and quarterback are still not on the
same page even days later. Um, here's what I think happened.
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I think that the Steelers we're counting on Uh, I
think they they they were the Steelers were counting on
Darius Hayward Bay with thirty two seconds left getting out
of bound. Um. You know in the irony of that
Darius Hayward Bay play is that that would have been
Antonio Brown, the speedy Antonio Brown, and he would have
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gotten out of bounds on that play if he hadn't
been hurt, Darius Hayward Bay was in the game in
part because Brown was hurt. So that's part one. And
I think the second part, in the most important part,
is that it was clear when Ben Roethlisford was going
to the line of scrimmage that he and Todd Hayley
were not totally on the same page um on that play.
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And and I don't know, No one knows whose fault
it was, but all I know is that it would
have made no sense to clock the ball. There no
sense to spike it to stop the clock. It would
have been foolish. And listen, Doug, they had twenty eight
seconds by the time that, you know, they get to
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the line of scrimmage, and and and he can, and
he can, you know, think of a play to call
or and or I think is snapping the ball. There
wasn't any need to sprint through this this this thing.
You have time, take your time, don't panic. And I
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think there's fault on both sides. I think there's fault
because I think Roethlisberger forced the ball on that throw.
And not only that, I think they had more time
than they actually took. So that's my issue with both
of those. Um, all right, let's let's get to the
New England side. The story comes out today that Tom
Brady's trainer, who he's written a book about his methods,
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he's talked about his methods. He believes that's a big
portion of why he's still playing at the level that
he's playing at. The trainer has been told, hey, look,
you can still work with Tom Brady, but you're you're
not welcome to work with other guys, and you're not
welcome on the sidelines. You're not welcome on the team plane. Um,
how should we view this in watching the Patriots, in
the relationship with Tom Brady. It's kind of an odd story.
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I think Brady is enough of a pragmatist to realize
that what's he gonna do ask for a trade? I mean,
he's not gonna do that. He's not leaving New England.
I think he's going to take his medicine not And again,
I don't know this story. I just know what I
read in the Boston Globe, and I said, I you know,
trust what they said is absolutely the case. But I
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think if Tom Brady, now, who knew that there was
there was a kind of an exception of the rule
made for his trainer. In the first place, he was
helping other guys in the team, so that now has
gone away, you know. And I just when I when
I read this story, I was reminded on my podcast
all right, when I interviewed Brady for seventy six minutes
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a week after the Super Bowl, and we were talking
about his conditioning and and his different form. And I mean,
he loves Alex Guerrera obviously, but he said, you know,
this is it's it's something that is different. You know,
it's something that not all coaches are you know, are
used to dealing with. So I think the one the
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biggest thing to realize here is that, you know, Bill
Belichick is a football coach. He's not a manager of
the human body. So whatever did happen, I doubt sincerely
it's going to drive a permanent wedge between the two
guys because Tom Brady has been around Belichick a lot
longer than he's been around Alex Carero. The Dallas Cowboys
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are still in the hunt for the playoffs, and now
they get Ezeki Elliott back from suspension. He had that
he decided to spend the vast majority all. But I
think two days in Cabo Sound Lucas training and you know,
filming a video and losing weight as well. Uh, it
feels like the Cowboys have gone from a team that
was dysfunctional and completely banged up to maybe a Super
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Bowl threat? Is that? Is that crazy to say? Even
if we have come to the realization that Dees isn't
Deaes and that uh Witten isn't Witten, like this could
actually be the best team in the NFC because of health.
I I'd be shocked. I mean, I don't think there's
any way to the best team in the NFC. I
think they would have to play a They'd have to
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play almost perfect to win three playoff games in the NFC,
all on the road. I mean, think about it. You know,
imagine if you're the Dallas Cowboys, you gotta win out
your last two games, and then you've got to play
road wild card. Let's just say against New Orleans. Okay,
I don't think they're winning that game. Then your second
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game has to be road divisional at Philadelphia. Maybe they
win the game, but I doubt it. And then they
got to win road NFC Championship at the Rams or
Minnesota or whoever. I mean, look, I like the Cowboys.
I think the Cowboys are good. I cannot I don't
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think there's any way in a pack NFC that they
win three games on the road in fifteen days. It's
gonna be fascinating to watch exactly what they're ceiling is
as as they get back to general health. Um, look,
we're still we're still, you know, weeks away from getting there.
But as we get to bull season, what's the general
sense you get in regards to Rosen and Donald and
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who NFL people actually would draft first as opposed to
who they say they like. I mean, Donald is basically
taking a month's vow of silence on any discussion any
people around him talking about his future. Nobody knows anything
about what he's gonna do, so everybody's all guessing about
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whether he's gonna come back or whether he's not going
to come back. I mean, really, you have to assume
that the thought has to be going through his mind
that if I enter the draft, I'm gonna be drafted
by the Cleveland Browns. You are naive to think that
for a player with that uh potential, that that doesn't
enter his mind. Um, I think Rosen is a really,
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really fascinating figure because right now, as a football player,
I think people believe that Rosen is better than Donald.
He certainly showed it when they went head to head.
And then you got Baker Mayfield. I talked to uh
John Dorsey a couple of days after he got hired,
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and I said, how many times have you watched Baker
Mayfield this year? He said six? Said, Oh, that's interesting.
You're he's unemployed, and you know, and here's an unemployed
guy and he's watched Baker Mayfield played six of his
at the time whatever eleven games, so iving it whatever
it was, uh, And and he went to see him
in person when Oklahoma played Kansas. So I'm kind of
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interested in this quarterback derby because I'm probably going to
get in trouble because i haven't really watched much college football.
I never do. But I'll be watching a few games
of each of those guys before the draft. And I
even though he's flat six ft tall, I think I'm
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probably gonna like Bay Baker makes feel quite a bit.
So you know, we'll see, but that's going to be
the biggest story of the off season. How high does
Baker may feel go the biggest story of the postseason,
I would think outside of you know, Brady potentially win
another Super Bowl and the and another class with the
Steelers or or the NFC, especially with some of all
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these backup quarterbacks and Jared Goff going at it, is
the Jacksonville Jaguars like talent wise across the board, they
appeared to be there and again just the last three
games and not against the league competition. But Blake Bortles
is starting to put up numbers, Peter, this season has started.
If we go back before the season began, people are like,
you can't even put Blake Bortles out there. Week one.
He looked lost, he had no confidence, he was skipping
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the ball, and now he he hadn't playing at the
best level of his career. But there's still no buy
in from the real football world. Um what's reasonable to
expect from Blake Bortles in the playoffs? I mean, let's
see what happens the next two weeks. But you know, look, uh,
six weeks ago, I'd say seven weeks ago, everybody wanted
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everybody in Jacksonville wanted Tom Coughlin to go get Eli Manning.
Um A month ago, not a soul in Jacksonville would
have said this guy's our long term quarterback. But now,
in the first half of December, he's played three games
where he has played almost perfect football. I talked to
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Marcedes Lewis after the game on Sunday and he said, Hey,
the guy is playing with zero pressure on him now,
and he knows that he doesn't have to be the
sole reason why we win games, and so I just
think he's playing a little more relaxed. Maron likes him.
He knows that he's not going to get yanked, and
you know, I'm shocked. We're all shocked when we watch
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him play. But that's going to be a gigantic question.
I'm sure that the Jaguars have been scouting every quarterback
and thinking that will be taking a quarterback in the
first round. You'd be silly to think they're not going
to take a quarterback high. They still will. But Wow,
Blake Bortles might be their quarterback in the year five
of his career next year. And how about this. I
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just think this. I find this absolutely incredible. Look, it
is not out of the realm of possibility. There's the
Jaguars in the Rams can play in the Super Bowl.
I'm just telling you. I mean, there are two of
the five hottest teams in football right now. It's all
about being hot late in the year. And how about
two teams there were seven and twenty five last year
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meeting in the Super Bowl. You know with case Keenum
against Blake, portals are not Kate Keenum golf against Blake Bortles.
It's hilarious. Or if Minnesota makes it Case Keenum against
Lake Bortles, it's incredible, absolutely incredible. Um go to seat
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Have a happy holiday season. We'll talk to you very soon.
Thanks for joining us. All the best, Pete Dougs, Thank you,
This is the best of the Dog dot Lead show
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We'll ask him if it's okay to buy into Blake
Bortles and if my Bortles theory uh is the right
Bortals theory. And if you have missed yesterday you can
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We posted there. Twitter page posted there as well. Um,
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but look, my basic thought on Blake Portals as this
before I get to Tom Brady and what's going on
in New England with the Patriots. Um, we have we have,
we have changed, we have changed how we're a value
winning Blake Portals right like we've gone from Blake Portles
is not a competent of starting quarterback to even take
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a snap from center for the Jacksonville Jaguars to where
we are now, which is, well, you know, he's more
than competent, but he's not good enough to win a
super with Like, if you're reasonable, he has reasonably and
maybe unreasonably exceeded all expectations for his ability to progress
this year. If you go back and you watch preseason
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Jacksonville Jaguars games, he was skipping passes. He was completely lost.
He looked a shell, he looked like mentally he was shot.
And now he's not so to go from there to here.
Now we're like, well, maybe you can't win to Super
with him. You're probably right, but that doesn't mean that
this season hasn't been a win for Alright, more on
that with Daniel Jeremiah upcoming. Patriars just want to be like,
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here's the difference in organizations. We we talked to you
yesterday about Ben Roethlisberger, and you know, now Ben Rothsburger
suddenly has amnesia. He can't remember exactly what happened on
that play that led to the you know, game ending interception.
Like now he has amnesias, Like you know what, I'm
gonna go, Senator, I don't recall that's what he's done.
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We talked about the difference in Patriots and I Steelers, right,
the Steelers quarterback is like, look, I thought we should
have spiked the ball. I didn't like but but you know,
my bad on the interception. We never hear any of
that from Brady. When Brady plays poorly, it's I played poorly.
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When he plays well, it's we played well. But but
in case you didn't know what what Bob McNair, the
owner of the text and said, is in fact accurate
and appropriate for the best run organizations, the best run
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sports teams. Bob McNair courps gotten the hot water because
he was talking about football players and their protests and
how that was viewed and whatever, and he's like, hey,
the inmates don't run the prison. And suddenly if you're
like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, um people trying to make
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the correlation between prison and as black guys that are protesting,
he's got to be talking about black people when he
was simply reforming a commonly used phrase, which is inmates
don't run the asylum, which if you really, if you
want to be that guy that takes that next unnecessary
step of connecting race with commonly used expressions, like you're
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saying These people that are protesting are crazy. It's an expression.
But the Patriots have stripped Tom Brady's trainer of various
team privileges. Apparently there's a riff between the trainer and
Bill Belichick. This according to report in The Boston Globe,
Alex Guerrero is the guy's name Tom Brady. I'm not
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sure where. He had a book out called the TB
twelve Method. They partnered together to launch the TB twelveth Center,
where Brady and several other Patriot players have trained and
received treatment since it opened two thousand thirteen. According to
The Globe, Guerrero, who has an office near the Patriots
locker room, will no longer be permitted to treat players
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other than Brady in his office. He's also reportedly banned
from boarding the Patriots jets they have two of them,
and his sideline access is in fact revoked. Belichick. Brady
told w E I it's a Boston station quote. I
don't have any comment other than say that Alex, it's
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been well documented, has been huge part of what I do,
and I'm so fortunate to have him not only as
a friend, but with everything we've been able to do
together He's a huge, huge reason while I'm still playing.
He's called him a genius. You go back to his ESPN,
the magazine article, you go to his book. Other patriots
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have bought into the TV twelve method. Those one of
them is Julian Edelman, who tours a c L this
year in a non contact injury. He's got Tom Brady
completely convinced that you've gotta be pliable, you've gotta be flexible,
you have to eat this special diet, and because of it,
that's why you're able to play after the age of forty.
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I mean, this is nothing other than it's like, hey,
if you're a scientologist, like, that's cool. We just don't
need you spreading the message of scientology in our locker room. Right.
That's basically what this is. And this is Bill Belichick saying, Hey,
the inmates don't run the asylum, the prison, the locker room.
They just don't. Tom Brady is a great player. Whatever
he wants to do, however he wants to train, fine,
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do it. Whatever it takes for you to get ready,
Get ready, right. Serrano wanted to sacrifice a live chicken,
can do a live chicken. Somebody will get a bucket
of KFC. All right, that's how you manage words. Teams
inmates can't run the prison, the asylum and the best
and the perfect example of why the Patriots get more
out of less year after year is they keep their
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best player in check. Best players in check, and companies
that run a muck don't right you You coach your
best player the hardest, not the softest. Now you have
to know that some guys can't take it, some guys
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will in fact break down. But the last twenty four
hours of news comparing the Patriots and how they're handling this,
and the Steelers and how they're handling the loss, and
now all of a sudden, the sudden amnesia, Senator I
can't recall from Ben Roethlisberger tells you all you need
to know about the organizations. When the defense was awful
(06:52):
to start the year with an England Patriots and still
not good when DIVA. Did you ever hear Tom Brady say,
you know, we get a stop now and again, right,
I haven't learn any of that, any discussion of that.
And though they may have sideline tips, there is no
getting in front of the microphone and Tom Brady disagreeing
with Josh McDaniel's play calls none of that. That doesn't
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happen even now when they boot out his trainer, a
guy who Tom Brady believes is partially and maybe mostly
and you if you read his book, he he almost
thinks solely responsible for his longevity. They don't like, hey, dude,
stay out of our locker room. Don't treat our guys,
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Stay off our jet, stay off for our sideline like
this dude's getting too the Heisman, stay away. You want
to work with Brady, fine, do that cookie workout stuff there.
The rest of our guys, we have paid professionals, paid professionals.
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So I mean, look, do you even look at the
at the New York Giants, right They tried to appease
Eli Manning by going to Eli and going like, listen, Eli,
we're gonna start you, but we might pull you at
the end of the game. Elis like, look, I don't
want to start start somebody else. I'm above that. That
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does not pertain to me. I am Eli Manning. I
have won two Super Bowls, I have never missed a game,
and I don't need your cockamami streak so that you
can replace me in the fourth quarter. Of a game
we're not supposed to win anyway, And so they relented, no,
not starting him the last two games. They relented him
previous to that by not starting him at all, and
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that showed that they did not have the ability to lead.
Like look, they went to the owner and the owner
was like, sure, I don't love it, but okay, I
get it, gentle manager on board, coach on board, ownership
on board. Eli not on board. Okay, why do you
have to go to Eli Manning? Well, you guys don't understand.
He's Eli Manning. So he's a football player. He collexis
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checks his check, does not change whether he plays three
quarters or four doesn't change a penny. So you could
have either not gone to him or and and done
it anyway, or gone to him and he's like, no,
I don't want to start, Like, no, no no, you're starting.
This is what we're doing. If you're not going to start,
that is your call. There's you making decision that you
don't want to start, not us. We want to start you.
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We love you, try and win games. We just want
you to to know that we're we gotta get these other
guys some reps. But when the inmates run the asylum.
This is what brings places down. Happens in our business.
Look around the landscape. When people overreact and go based
upon what the players want, doesn't say well with the fans.
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Same thing in TV and radio, any business. You could
make suggestions. There's a suggestion box over there. We can
go play golf and you can say, hey, you know,
there's one idea. But generally bosses like to be bosses.
They don't like to be told what to do. They've
been waiting their whole lives to be in charge. Be
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
(10:06):
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. That's welcome
to Dann and Jeremiah from the NFL Network. I know
what DJs thing is like. You're Jewish, like I like Christmas.
I like good like good music. It could be about
Kwanza good music like. I don't don't care. DJ. You're
San Diego guy. Have you ever experienced a white Christmas?
White Christmas? I live in with school in North Carolina
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in the mountains, so it's got a little bit snowy
up there. Always got home before you guys. Were you
guys still playing still around campus? Then? Yeah, we were
one double A playoffs man, we were. We were deep
into the playoff hunt every year. So it was always
it was always like a week before Christmas and then
would be usually we'd be done and then get out
of there. So never on Christmas Day have I had
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have I had a white Christmas? But I do have
a show idea for you. I think every bump, just
pick one random day, maybe you do it once a week,
and you just sing the ball. I mean, you just
get the all you need a track. You got a
beautiful voice, man, just just just take it over. Yeah. Stop.
It's like my son. My son had a Christmas performance
or a holiday performance wheter it said Mary everything by
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the way, for at his school. And he's like me,
like he likes to sing, he likes to wrap, he
likes to dance, but he's not good at any of
those three. And my daughter's actually can sing. They make
sure and let us let us know. Um, all right,
if if there was one gift you could get from
your wife for Christmas, what would it be like that,
what's the one thing you really really want? You appreciate this.
(11:33):
We just move and I need we don't have a
hoop at this house, so I gotta get a hoop.
Who I can help you with that? My son, we
just moved here and so we don't really have a
spot for a hoop, but we have a huge garage
and we're my son. Just that kind of hit me
up to Day's like I did ask Santa for a hoop.
I hope he brings a hoop. I hope he knows
it's kind of hard to get it in there. But
(11:53):
I was like, all right, it looks like I need
to talk to Santazelle's about heading over to Dick's Sporting
Goods and let me ask you about Bortles Blake burtles
in the Jacksonville Jaguars. I do think that one of
the things that's changed. We started the year, like, dude,
that guy can't even start for Game one, and so
he's clearly been able to be at least a solid
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quarterback and over the last month, granted against some bad defense,
is he's been a very good starting quarterback. So we're
holding him to a completely different level of kind of
accountability now as opposed to the start of the year.
Give me your sense of how much. Do you think
he'll hold them back in their quest to win playoff games? Well, lookay,
we come off with a couple of years ago watching
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Peyton Manning, who was way done. I mean, I'm not
comparing Portles Pete Manning over the life of their career,
but the man that we saw win a Super Bowl
with the Broncos was not very good, and it was
a defense dominated team and they didn't put him in
bad situations. He didn't have to chase. I mean, I
think that's one of the major differences is this defense
is so dang dominant that he's never in a chase position.
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Um are always in kind of they want to be
they want to be aggressive an attack. They can do it,
but they're never in a situation where everybody knows, hey,
you you gotta throw the ball. UM. So he looks
his confidence has has risen and he's playing solid football.
I know people keep saying that Blake's playing out of
his mind. I'm like, no, he's not. He's just taking
kind of what's there. He's he's playing solid football. And
I think with that defense, the way they can suffocate you,
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I don't think you want to see them in the postseason. Yeah,
I'm I'm intrigued by it. Let's let's get to the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Um. Look, I mean, they very easily could
have won that game if not for this crazy cockamamie
ruling of what completely a process off it catches that said,
they're not gonna have Shas here. I don't know when
they'll have Antonio Brown. And then there's this weird disconnect
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between coach and player, right Like Big Ben's like, look,
I didn't I wanted to clock the ball, he keeps saying,
And he's like, you know, my bad in the interception,
but I wanted to clock the ball. And then and
then people asked him about the actual route and he's like,
I don't member. Whereas their head coach, he's like, hey,
look it's Ben Rossberger. He calls plays the last. He
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can change his mind, last, curage, whatever he wants. What
do you make of the lack of accountability for Big
Ben as to what went wrong at the end of
that game. Well, I'll be consistent here because this is
the kind of stuff we would say, you know, with
Robert Griffin the thirds press conferences, um, all throughout the years.
So he just couldn't didn't handle himself the right way,
and people thought that was unfair when he was criticized. Look,
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I love you the same criticism to bend. The rule
is simple for quarterback stug in press conferences, it's very
very simple. Anything goes wrong, you own it. Um, anything
goes right, you share it. And to me, Ben kind
of broke that rule with his response to that no
matter what happened, Look, you just you own it. You
wear it. Hey, I gotta be better. You know, you
get your teeth even if it's not the truth. You
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said that I screwed up. I gotta do better. It's
on me. Um, I'll get it fixed. That's just how
you answer those questions. I don't know why, Um he
went the direction he did, but I think in order
to be fair, you know, if you're gonna criticize some
of these other guys for saying stupid stuff after games,
I think bends first year here, no no question about that. Um.
Do you think they can win a Super Bowl? Get
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to a Super Bowl? Considering the injuries they have and
now the likelihood they have to go on the road,
I don't think they can beat New England's Um. I don't.
I don't like that matchup. And I don't know why
New England didn't wear them out with cronks in the
first half. They waited to do that a little bit later.
But Shasier that that's a huge missing piece for them.
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And and I think New England once, especially you get
into a postseason um win or go home type atmosphere,
they will wear their weakness out and they're gonna put
those linebackers in coverage with facts and tight ends, and
I don't think they're gonna be able to slow them down. Yeah,
I tend to agree with you. Daniel Jeremiah from the
NFL Network also has a great podcast called Move the Sticks.
Uh he and Bucky Brooks. You can download that podcast.
(15:52):
It's fantastic. Bucky's joined us as well. DJ joined just
throughout the NFL season. Um, look, the Eagles offense was
in great against the Giants. It's just one week, but
you know, like, look, the Eagles kind of puffed out
their chest after Wentz went down, Like, look, we invested
a lot of money in our backup quarterback and this
is why. But how big a drop off is there
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now with no wins and falls in there? Well, I mean, look,
he goes four touchdowns, no picks. To me, I came
out of that game after watching the tape, I think
that you know, look, it's the left tackle, Doug when
you watch that, that's what scares me if I'm the Eagles.
I mean, Jason Peters, you know, not being in there
is one thing. When you've got Wentz, who can you know,
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do some Houdini stuff and get out of trouble. The
fall is not gonna be able to get out of
waste some of that stuff. And he got beat up
pretty good by Olivia Vernon in that game, So that
would be a major concern for me. The Giants kind
of switched up what they were doing. They tried to
rush three and four, then they tried to bring heavy pressure.
I thought Falls handled it pretty well. Um to me
with that with that team right now, left tackles my
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number one concern, and the secondary is number two. I mean,
Eli Manning and a team with two wins that's got
every reason to pack it in and they throw for
four or in thirty yards or whatever they threw for
in that game, they need to they need They're gonna
be a team that I look for them to rest guys.
If they can get it done and secure the bye
or the number one seed this week, you won't see
any of them in the last week, and they need
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to get those secondary players fresh. They look a little
bit heavy legged. Let me ask you about the Rams
as they go in and they just curb stomp the
Seattle Seahawks. There they were up thirty and forty to
forty to nothing in that game. You've watched the tape.
Was it as bad as the score would indicate? Yeah,
it was a line of scrimmage beating. Um. It was
the first play of the game. You watch it, They
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go fourteen yards and there you know, Tyler Higbee the
tight end, and I did all their preseason games. I thought,
you know, he's an effort guy at the game, but
not the best run blocker that you're ever gonna see
from the tight end position. He takes a safety and
drives him about fifteen yards down the field on the
very first play of the game. And it was it
was like that across the board. Up front, they just
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dominated the Seahawks. I mean, Gurly, as great as he was,
it was not the most difficult running he's had to
do in his career. Danner Jeremiah joining us in the
Doug Gotlip Show. All right, So what about the the uh,
the Rams. You know, we've talked about some of the
other teams and there you know, the Eagles and their
playoff hopes. What is your sense for how legitimate the
Super Bowl possibilities are for the l A Rams. No,
(18:20):
I think it's legit. I think you you look at
what they can do on the line of scrimmage. Talked
about how their offensive line dominant that dominated that game.
You look at Aaron Donald was unblockable. So when you're
that good in the trenches and you can get you know,
solid quarterback play, which is I think what golf gives them. Yeah,
I mean, I think there's so many teams at NFC
is wide open. When you look at Minnesota, what they
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can do with their dominant defense, You've got the Rams.
Talked about the Eagles, I think they're still formidable. And
then to me, the Cowboys if they sneak in, UM,
that's a dangerous team with the healthy Shawn Lee and
if you get to you know, you get Zeke rolling again. Um.
In regards to the Seahawks, you know they do have
massive injuries and I know that that Wagner played, um,
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but but they haven't had Cliff Avor obviously, they don't
have Cam Chancellor, and they don't have Richard Sherman. Is
this simply, Hey, let's get guys healthy, make a coustbo adjustments,
or they need to gut it and start over. It
sounds like they're they're headed towards the gut it and
start over. I think they're really up against it from
a salary cap standpoint, Um, and you've got some age
in the back end, and those guys are all time
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great players. But I think you're gonna see kind of
the whole whole reboot there. You've got a young quarterback
you can build around Bobby Wagner's young and in his prime,
and you can build around him on the defense. But
it sounds like there's gonna be a whole lot of
change everywhere else. And I'm kind of fascinated to see
if Pete if he wants to stick around for what
could be a year or two of them kind of
going through the process, which is not going to result
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in a lot of a lot of postseason runs. Yeah,
especially with Garoppolo looking like he's a dude and the
Rams are being having just loaded, absolutely loaded loaded with
with with draft picks. Yeah, the Rams. The interesting thing
with the Rams, real quick tug, is that now there
in the position that the Seahawks were in where they're
going to get good quarterback play on the cheap with
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the rookie contract, which is gonna allow them to continue
to bring in assets while Golf is still on that
rookie deal. So they've kind of flipped. Really, They've got
the Seattle thing going that Seattle had a few years ago,
no question about it. Dan Jeremiah joining us um. Okay,
the Packers decided to sit Aaron Rodgers last two games
of the season, and I see no win in I
don't see any win in playing Eli Manning, let alone
(20:26):
playing Aaron Rodgers coming off injury. What's your reaction to
that news? That was a no brainer. I mean I
was kind of shocked with seeing some people kind of
push back on that and they wanted to see him
out there. Why uh, these are meaningless, meaningless games and
just get him a full offseason, get him healthy and
be ready to go to the off season program. Um.
As soon as they were liminated, I mean, I was like,
this is you don't have to take much time to
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delivery on this one. I don't care how much he
wants to play, you can't play him in these meaningless games.
Tend to agree. I just people kind of get caught
caught up in the well, why did you bring him?
But we brought him back to try and make the playoffs.
It didn't work. It didn't work. Now we now we
ready for next year. Um, speaking of getting ready for
next year, in your opinions to Josh Rosen playing the
ball game, well, this is something a lot of people
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are talking about. I think in a normal um, in
a in a normal situation, if he was just viewed
as this pristine character off the field and personality wise
was off the chart, I think he probably could have
got away with not playing in this game. And some
people in the media would hit him, but I don't
think from a team standpoint they would really care. But
I think with him with some of those questions existing,
(21:30):
you know, Okay, well, the question the questions are does
he love football? Right? Then that's a that's a big
question and so and so for him because he's he
is a quarterback, it's a different position and there are
different questions about him. I mean, doesn't he done he
kind of had to play. Yeah, that's what That's what
I'm getting to. I think that's exactly the case. Now.
If it was uh, you know, say, if it was
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Sam Donald and they were playing in a lower level
bowl coming off of a season where they're or whatever
U c l A is, what seven and five or
six and six, seven and five, barely getting into a
bowl game, I don't think anybody would have really, you know,
batted and eye if he said I'm gonna start training
and get ready. Um, But with Josh is a little
bit different. So I think he if he's healthy, I
think you've got to go out there. Um. The Patriots
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have stripped Tom Brady's trainer of some of these extra privileges. Right,
he can still work with Tom Brady, but not anybody else.
Can't be in the sidelines, can't be on the team plane.
You've been in the league, you've been in an NFL
front office for um, when you hear this, what do
you think it's it's a little bit concerning. I just
think because you always wonder how that thing is really
(22:32):
going to end there, and uh, you know, I think
that's kind of the first sign of maybe a little
bit of a crack in the in the relationship between
head coach and quarterback. But I tend to agree with
with Belichick on this one. I mean, I think you
make um, you make the rules a little bit different
for Tom. You can have his guy work out with
his guy, didn't have to be involved with what they're
doing their own strength program. But you're talking about team
(22:53):
planes and doing all that song and dance. I kind
of get where Belichick is like, Okay, that's enough. Yeah, no,
no quite and and and frankly, that's It's one of
those things where you know, I I don't know if
you know this. A couple of years ago, he used
to take a helicopter. Uh, he used to take a
helicopter home, so to avoid traffic is traffic there is
the worst. And they finally pushed back and like, now
(23:14):
you can't do that. Every he can't do that. You know,
nobody else is allowed to do that. You can't do
that as well. Yeah, no, it's one thing. Look, you
get two seats in first class to stretch out a
little bit. You get some perks for being Tom Brady.
But I think that some of these things go above
and beyond that Daniel Jeremiah. The podcast is called Move
the Sticks. I didn't I when I asked you, I
(23:34):
didn't say what I asked you? What you want to get? You?
You want a basketball hoop in your house? I'm talking
about you. I love. Look, since I tore my achilles,
I don't. I don't. I don't play pick up anymore,
but I'll I love. But to me, my relaxing thing
to do is to just go get a bunch of
jumpers up. So not having that in this house has
been brutal. Well, you have the ability, you have a
you have a half court space, full court space. I
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gotta I'm gonna have to go kind of a little bit. Uh,
I guess is it is it considered like we say
trailer trash order, I'm gonna go front yard. I got
a big driveway, so it's not trailer trash. If it's
done nicely, it's not trailer trash. Yeah, but I'm going.
I'm I'm hooping in the front yard. Man, I've got
a beautiful may make sure you don't get a ceramic backboard?
Makes you sure you get a glass backboard? Come on,
(24:19):
I am just I just telling people like and This
is for for mothers or fathers out there. Like, don't
get a ceramic backboard to where you could you could
fire it like a bullet. And if a soramic backboard,
it just drops into the net, right, Like, that's not
a real backboard. Get a real glass backboard. Come on, yeah,
go bigger, go home on Yeah exactly. Daniel Jeremiah from
the NFL Network, DJ, Merry Christmas, thanks for joining us.
(24:40):
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Did you guys see this story about LaVar Ball? He?
LaVar Ball said today that he's launching a basketball league
for nationally ranked players who have graduated from high school
but don't want to go to college. Ball said the
Junior Basketball Association the j b A, which he said
(25:05):
is fully funded by his Big Baller brand, plant pans,
plans to pay the lowest ranked player a salary of
three thousand a month and the best player ten thousand
a month. Ball is looking for eight d players to
fill ten teams that was seek to play in NBA
at NBA Arenas and Los Angeles, Dallas Brooklyn in Atlanta.
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Getting these players is going to be easy. This is
giving guys a chance that she had a jump start
in their careers to be seen by pro scouts. We're
gonna pay them because someone has to pay these kids.
So here's the thing. Okay, first, like his math's all off, right,
Like I want eight players for ten teams. You want
(25:49):
eight guys on a team, bro, this is not a
a U. Okay, you can't have You can't have eight
guys on a team like that. And like, I don't
know if you know how numbers work, but eight guys
on a team, Guys just don't show up. Guys get hurt,
Guys get sick, Guys change their mind, Guys don't like
(26:13):
the coach, Guys don't like other players in the team. Like,
what basketball team, what professional or collegiate basketball team on Earth?
Only has eight guys under contract? Like, just forget about that.
If I just if I take LaVar Ball, who's never
run the league. All he's done is coach his son's
AU teams. He's never run a league, never run an event. Hey, um,
(26:38):
he has no true business school background. None. If I
take that out of the mix, and I just say Hey,
we're gonna get it. We're gonna get a ten team
league up, even even if it's an old man league.
Eight is the bare minimum, the bare minimum. Now you
get the professional collegian sports, real teams, eight guys in
(27:01):
the league. Like, dude, your math is so far off.
He's like, look, all that matters is we somebody's got
to pay these guys. And oh yeah, by the way,
if they're compensation, and people are freaking out, twelve ten
a month compensation, Like you're not gonna play, You're not
gonna pay him over a twelve months, not gonna twenty grand.
(27:22):
You know, it's like a four or five month season.
You're gonna have a guy four to your fifty grand.
Well again, if if you if you view college athletics
the way I view college athletics, where it's an unbelievable
opportunity at a free education that normally cost people, you know,
anywhere from twenty to h to seventy five grand post
(27:43):
tax per year, like you're actually barely if anything matching.
Because remember, if you are paid ten grand a month,
you gotta pay taxes on the ten grand a month. Oops, right,
so ten grand a month really take home is I
don't know, six or seven a month. You gotta pay
(28:05):
your taxes, and oh yeah, by the way, if you
don't want to go to college, you can go to
the G League right now, playing the G League for
a year, play coach by NBA coaches. Yes, they actually
have twelve thirteen guys on a team playing nice arenas,
practice against at times the NBA players in their training camps,
and then hopefully get a call up or get drafted.
(28:28):
You can't play in the NBA your first year, but
you can get drafted after your first year. So there's
a red herring to the fact that this opportunity actually
previously exists for about the same pay. And then there's
the idea you've got a guy who's never run any
sort of league or any basketball event, has no real
bad business acumen, and he's gonna pay for it at
a big baller brand which isn't making enough money to
(28:50):
being paying for a league. And then oh yeah, he's like, well,
we'll just do an NBA arenas. You know, the NBA
arenas cost money, Like there's a reason that the w
n b A has moved to smaller venues because they
cost less money. There is nothing about this plan that
makes any sort of sense. I feel like this is
(29:10):
was the principle in Billy Madison? Wasn't that it music?
Although Billy Madison might be a little old of me,
that might actually be a dated reference. Ramas, Wasn't it
the principal in Billy Madison that othered the words? Um,
we're all dumber for what you have what you just heard? Right?
Nobody says was it the principle or because they were doing, um,
(29:36):
they were doing some debate. I don't know if it
was the principle of the person who was like conducting
like the debate that they were doing, but I know
what you're talking about. Yeah, we're all now dumber for
having to listen to what you just said. Thank you. Yes,
That's exactly how I feel about LaVar Ball's proposal. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on
(29:57):
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Peter
Kang joins us from the MMQUB dot com geek enter
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geek purchase. Peter, how are you everything's going great, Doug.
Happy holidays and your yeah, marry everything. As they said
to my son's school earlier today, Um boy boy boy.
(30:22):
Uh the Jerry richard thing, I mean, that thing happened
really really quickly. Your magazine, John Worthime did that outstanding
investigative peace and then you know, he steps aside. Now
the team just happens to be for sale. Does this
have any effect on the day to day of the team. Uh, well,
we'll find out. I mean nothing, nothing's going to change
(30:45):
between now and the last snap of the football season. Uh.
But what we don't know is we don't know yet
how is this going to affect free agency? How is
this going to affect draft prep? I mean, is Marty
Hearny now the permanent general manager? He basically was, you know,
(31:07):
hired to be the GM the rest of the year.
And so no one knows this stuff yet because we're
still in the sort of the infancy of of what happened.
The one thing I do feel I don't want to
say strongly about, but I think is is eminently likely
is that, uh Jerry Richardson will at least attempt to
(31:29):
put a writer on the terms of sale that says,
we want to keep We're going to sell this to
somebody's going to keep it in Charlotte. So, uh, I
don't get much of a I don't. I don't get
a sense that there's a great chance. I mean, never
say never, but I don't get a sense that there's
a great chance that this is going to be the
London Panthers. All right, let's let's let's go around the league.
(31:52):
What's the league's reaction to Aaron Rodgers being shut down
to the last two games of the regular season. Oh,
I have not I've not spoken to a soul about it,
I think, but I think the general reaction is, uh,
if the Packers are not in it at all and
Aaron Rodgers is at you know, and not, why would
(32:18):
he play that? Plus the fact that this just gives
more opportunity for Brett Hunley to uh to show his
stuff against two pretty good teams. And I think I
would do the precise same. Look if the Packers were
still in it, I would play Rogers against Minnesota, But
without them being in it, I don't see any reason
(32:39):
why he should play Seattle. Seahawks gets stopped for a
second week and Rother there down forty to nothing at
home to the Rams. Um, it really is remarkable. Um.
Do you think they are like, look, we we're gonna
get Richard Sherman back, how they get Cam Chancellor, Let's
let's just kind of ride this thing out. Or do
you think they gut it and start over? Um? I
(33:03):
think that the one thing that the Seahawks have to
do right now is determined, Okay, who's going to be
on this ship next week, our next year, rather, who's
gonna who's gonna coach this team? Is gonna be the
GM who's going to be on this defense? Who are
we keeping? Who are we not keeping? I mean, does
Pete Kara want to go in for the rebuild retool,
(33:26):
because that's what it's going to be. It's not gonna
be overwhelming, but there's a lot of work that needs
to be done, starting on the offensive line and then
starting when when you're four best defensive players are all
twenty eight or older. Uh, you know, in two thousand eighteen,
time to move on, you gotta go. So my feeling
(33:48):
right now is that I think that is a team
that could really get shaken up this offseason. It Doug,
you know, it isn't only the Rams that seemingly have
passed the Sea is not just the Rams. And I'm
not saying the forty Niners have passed him, But look
at the forty Niners the last three weeks, three and oh,
(34:09):
and they got a quarterback who looks like he's going
to be a huge star. And so you're gotta worry
about the forty Niners. You've got a coach and a
general manager with a five year contract and about eight
billion dollars of cap room. So I mean, I'd be
pretty worried about the forty Niners as well as the Rams,
I would agree. And everybody in the league seems to
(34:31):
think that de Garoppolo is uh is the guy that
he looks the part of a franchise quarterback. He's gonna
get franchise quarterback money, and that looks to be a
great trade for the San Francisco forty Niners future. Uh.
It's it's it's one of the things that that complicates
how much of a rebuild you have to go through
for Seattle. Doug gotlic show Fox Sports Trader, that's the
voice of Peter King. The MMQB dot Com is, of course,
(34:53):
his outstanding website, there's podcast there as well. Um, let's
let's go to the Pittsburgh where look the Jesse, the
Jesse James play and the I'm at some point they're
gonna have to have to tinker with this rule, I
would think. Um. But regardless of which, the fact was,
they it felt like they were disorganized there at home
(35:13):
in the situation where it's not a new coach is
not a new quarterback. And afterwards, Roethlisberger pointed fingers away
as much as he pointed figures towards himself and Mike Tomlins, like, hey, look,
this is a veteran star quarterback, like he can make
the call at the line of scrimmage. Why do you
think that coach and quarterback are still not on the
same page even days later. Um, here's what I think happened.
(35:37):
I think that the Steelers we're counting on Uh, I
think they they they were the Steelers were counting on
Darius Hayward Bay with thirty two seconds left getting out
of bound. Um. You know in the irony of that
Darius Hayward Bay play is that that would have been
Antonio Brown, the speedy Antonio Brown, and he would have
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gotten out of bounds on that play if he hadn't
been hurt, Darius Hayward Bay was in the game in
part because Brown was hurt. So that's part one. And
I think the second part, in the most important part,
is that it was clear when Ben Roethlisford was going
to the line of scrimmage that he and Todd Hayley
were not totally on the same page um on that play.
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And and I don't know, No one knows whose fault
it was, but all I know is that it would
have made no sense to clock the ball. There no
sense to spike it to stop the clock. It would
have been foolish. And listen, Doug, they had twenty eight
seconds by the time that, you know, they get to
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the line of scrimmage, and and and he can, and
he can, you know, think of a play to call
or and or I think is snapping the ball. There
wasn't any need to sprint through this this this thing.
You have time, take your time, don't panic. And I
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think there's fault on both sides. I think there's fault
because I think Roethlisberger forced the ball on that throw.
And not only that, I think they had more time
than they actually took. So that's my issue with both
of those. Um, all right, let's let's get to the
New England side. The story comes out today that Tom
Brady's trainer, who he's written a book about his methods,
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he's talked about his methods. He believes that's a big
portion of why he's still playing at the level that
he's playing at. The trainer has been told, hey, look,
you can still work with Tom Brady, but you're you're
not welcome to work with other guys, and you're not
welcome on the sidelines. You're not welcome on the team plane. Um,
how should we view this in watching the Patriots, in
the relationship with Tom Brady. It's kind of an odd story.
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I think Brady is enough of a pragmatist to realize
that what's he gonna do ask for a trade? I mean,
he's not gonna do that. He's not leaving New England.
I think he's going to take his medicine not And again,
I don't know this story. I just know what I
read in the Boston Globe, and I said, I you know,
trust what they said is absolutely the case. But I
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think if Tom Brady, now, who knew that there was
there was a kind of an exception of the rule
made for his trainer. In the first place, he was
helping other guys in the team, so that now has
gone away, you know. And I just when I when
I read this story, I was reminded on my podcast
all right, when I interviewed Brady for seventy six minutes
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a week after the Super Bowl, and we were talking
about his conditioning and and his different form. And I mean,
he loves Alex Guerrera obviously, but he said, you know,
this is it's it's something that is different. You know,
it's something that not all coaches are you know, are
used to dealing with. So I think the one the
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biggest thing to realize here is that, you know, Bill
Belichick is a football coach. He's not a manager of
the human body. So whatever did happen, I doubt sincerely
it's going to drive a permanent wedge between the two
guys because Tom Brady has been around Belichick a lot
longer than he's been around Alex Carero. The Dallas Cowboys
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are still in the hunt for the playoffs, and now
they get Ezeki Elliott back from suspension. He had that
he decided to spend the vast majority all. But I
think two days in Cabo Sound Lucas training and you know,
filming a video and losing weight as well. Uh, it
feels like the Cowboys have gone from a team that
was dysfunctional and completely banged up to maybe a Super
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Bowl threat? Is that? Is that crazy to say? Even
if we have come to the realization that Dees isn't
Deaes and that uh Witten isn't Witten, like this could
actually be the best team in the NFC because of health.
I I'd be shocked. I mean, I don't think there's
any way to the best team in the NFC. I
think they would have to play a They'd have to
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play almost perfect to win three playoff games in the NFC,
all on the road. I mean, think about it. You know,
imagine if you're the Dallas Cowboys, you gotta win out
your last two games, and then you've got to play
road wild card. Let's just say against New Orleans. Okay,
I don't think they're winning that game. Then your second
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game has to be road divisional at Philadelphia. Maybe they
win the game, but I doubt it. And then they
got to win road NFC Championship at the Rams or
Minnesota or whoever. I mean, look, I like the Cowboys.
I think the Cowboys are good. I cannot I don't
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think there's any way in a pack NFC that they
win three games on the road in fifteen days. It's
gonna be fascinating to watch exactly what they're ceiling is
as as they get back to general health. Um, look,
we're still we're still, you know, weeks away from getting there.
But as we get to bull season, what's the general
sense you get in regards to Rosen and Donald and
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who NFL people actually would draft first as opposed to
who they say they like. I mean, Donald is basically
taking a month's vow of silence on any discussion any
people around him talking about his future. Nobody knows anything
about what he's gonna do, so everybody's all guessing about
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whether he's gonna come back or whether he's not going
to come back. I mean, really, you have to assume
that the thought has to be going through his mind
that if I enter the draft, I'm gonna be drafted
by the Cleveland Browns. You are naive to think that
for a player with that uh potential, that that doesn't
enter his mind. Um, I think Rosen is a really,
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really fascinating figure because right now, as a football player,
I think people believe that Rosen is better than Donald.
He certainly showed it when they went head to head.
And then you got Baker Mayfield. I talked to uh
John Dorsey a couple of days after he got hired,
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and I said, how many times have you watched Baker
Mayfield this year? He said six? Said, Oh, that's interesting.
You're he's unemployed, and you know, and here's an unemployed
guy and he's watched Baker Mayfield played six of his
at the time whatever eleven games, so iving it whatever
it was, uh, And and he went to see him
in person when Oklahoma played Kansas. So I'm kind of
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interested in this quarterback derby because I'm probably going to
get in trouble because i haven't really watched much college football.
I never do. But I'll be watching a few games
of each of those guys before the draft. And I
even though he's flat six ft tall, I think I'm
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probably gonna like Bay Baker makes feel quite a bit.
So you know, we'll see, but that's going to be
the biggest story of the off season. How high does
Baker may feel go the biggest story of the postseason,
I would think outside of you know, Brady potentially win
another Super Bowl and the and another class with the
Steelers or or the NFC, especially with some of all
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these backup quarterbacks and Jared Goff going at it, is
the Jacksonville Jaguars like talent wise across the board, they
appeared to be there and again just the last three
games and not against the league competition. But Blake Bortles
is starting to put up numbers, Peter, this season has started.
If we go back before the season began, people are like,
you can't even put Blake Bortles out there. Week one.
He looked lost, he had no confidence, he was skipping
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the ball, and now he he hadn't playing at the
best level of his career. But there's still no buy
in from the real football world. Um what's reasonable to
expect from Blake Bortles in the playoffs? I mean, let's
see what happens the next two weeks. But you know, look, uh,
six weeks ago, I'd say seven weeks ago, everybody wanted
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everybody in Jacksonville wanted Tom Coughlin to go get Eli Manning.
Um A month ago, not a soul in Jacksonville would
have said this guy's our long term quarterback. But now,
in the first half of December, he's played three games
where he has played almost perfect football. I talked to
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Marcedes Lewis after the game on Sunday and he said, Hey,
the guy is playing with zero pressure on him now,
and he knows that he doesn't have to be the
sole reason why we win games, and so I just
think he's playing a little more relaxed. Maron likes him.
He knows that he's not going to get yanked, and
you know, I'm shocked. We're all shocked when we watch
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him play. But that's going to be a gigantic question.
I'm sure that the Jaguars have been scouting every quarterback
and thinking that will be taking a quarterback in the
first round. You'd be silly to think they're not going
to take a quarterback high. They still will. But Wow,
Blake Bortles might be their quarterback in the year five
of his career next year. And how about this. I
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just think this. I find this absolutely incredible. Look, it
is not out of the realm of possibility. There's the
Jaguars in the Rams can play in the Super Bowl.
I'm just telling you. I mean, there are two of
the five hottest teams in football right now. It's all
about being hot late in the year. And how about
two teams there were seven and twenty five last year
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meeting in the Super Bowl. You know with case Keenum
against Blake, portals are not Kate Keenum golf against Blake Bortles.
It's hilarious. Or if Minnesota makes it Case Keenum against
Lake Bortles, it's incredible, absolutely incredible. Um go to seat
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twenty dollars off your first seat Geek purchase. Peter great stuff.
Have a happy holiday season. We'll talk to you very soon.
Thanks for joining us. All the best, Pete Dougs, Thank you,
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