Call The Damn Foul!

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you over the next three hours. So glad to have
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really is. Bowl games have been going on all week,
but now when you mix the NFL in, you've got
the rumors of who could be leaving as a coach,
who could be staying as a coach, A lot of
great stuff on the gridiron, and we have a bowl
game that had sixty six points in the first half.

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That's going on in Charlotte with the Belk Ball. You
heard Dave s wake Forest is up on Texas C
and M by ten. But a whole lot to get
to is the College Football Playoff comes up on Monday
with Georgia and Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl, and then
at nights in the Sugar Bowl. It's Clemson taking on Alabama.
One of the storylines, at least with the first game
is that Baker Mayfield is still under the weather and

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is missing some activities that were thought to be required
a press availability today to not go to the Beef
Bowl that they always have with the Rose Bowl. So
Baker Mayfield feeling a bit under the weather as we
are about seventy two hours away from kickoff of the
Granddaddy of them all. But last night they tipped it
off in Boston and yesterday here on Fox Sports Radio

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and for Doug Gottlieb, I from Salaman myself debate on
the topic about the NBA and what is really good
for the association when it comes to the NBA Finals,
and I from was on the side of let's have
Warriors Calves four. And I would say, hey, let's let's
let the Rockets get in there. Let's have the Rockets
face the Calves or the Celtics take on the Warriors.

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Let's get some new storylines going. Heck, let's have Rockets
Celtics as a final and see where that storyline takes us. Well,
there was quite a storyline with Rockets Celtics last night.
Houston blowing a twenty six point lead and it was
a game that the Celtics got back in late and
then at the end on the I believe this is
the Rockets radio network. It was drama involving James Harden.

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Harden next down smart again? That turns the follow James
Harden improdes in front of a national television audience. Take
that what you feared? Okay, that's Celtics Radio network. We
know that, sure too offensive follow called on James Harden

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in the final ten seconds of the ballgame from allowing
the Celtics to not only get the game winning bucket,
but then seal the deal at the end as Boston
beats the Rockets two fouls that I think had no
business being called last night. So I figured you're gonna
say that, and I knew. I knew after watching that game.

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At first, I was like, oh, this is this is trash,
you know, Celtics down by points. I was like, this
is and this is what Dan wanted to see in
the finals over Golden State and in in Cleveland. And
then it got interesting. But as it was getting interesting,
it was proving my point about the lack of defense,

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the lack of defensive intensity that the Houston Rockets have.
Right with that type of firepower, you up by twenty
six points on the team, they should be dead like
I mean, very few times this Golden State give up
a lead like that because they because they can continue

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to score and they can continue to stop people when
you're just shooting, right, I think they shot forty three threes,
that's more. They shot more threes than they did two
point field goals, which they normally do. But once you
have a lead like that, then the natural order of things,

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and this is coaching, is to slow the game down.
Mike D'Antoni. It's not really into that, not really a
true X and those type of guy. It's kind of like,
rolled the ball out there, Gonna let my best player alive,
Steve Nash alive, James Harden run the show. You guys,
do what you want. Don't worry about defense. We'll keep scoring,

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So keep shooting threes. You know, last night in the
NBA was a microcosm of what you are talking about.
The Timberls at a twenty point lead on Milwaukee in
the third quarter and they end up letting it get away,
and it's also getting slopping. There's other reasons that you
could allow teams to get in, but it isn't unheard of.
You from to have great games. Heck, when was it

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two thousand NBA Finals when the Blazers had that lead
on the Lakers and then Kobe and chat come all
the way back and that starts the first of their
three titles finals. Bringing up Portland again. They blew a
huge lead in Games six against Michael Jordan and the Bulls,
allowing the Bulls to come back and win the game
and win the championship. So we've seen comebacks before, But

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I get what you're saying with the Rockets overall as
a team. Now. It should be noted that the Rockets
were without Chris Paul. There's no Clint Capella right now.
But what we saw last night from was at least
a more competitive game between two teams. And where the
Warriors are right now in relation to the rest of
the NBA, I think that there is such a huge
gap that if you're at least going to get a

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blowout in a series, maybe have some new blood in
there in the Boston Celtics or having new rivalry to
see if maybe the next year the Celtics take that
push and and make it that. That's where I was
coming from as we talked yesterday and to see last night,
to see and Tony Brothers who made the two offensive
foul calls. Now you want to talk about home plate

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umpires and grand standing. Okay, he could have set the
record at the NBA combine for a leap with the
that he was so excited to call not just the
first offensive foul but the second one. And he was
even talked about last on and inside the NBA that
maybe James Harden had this ego, had this bravado of Okay,

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you're gonna call it on me once. Let's see if
you call it on me again. What nobody fails to
talk about is that the league's most habitual flopper of
them all, the guy who will fall at any gust
of wind that there is, Marcus Smart is the one
who is guarding James Harden. And the problem that I
have with last night is, Okay, if you want to
give him the first follow, that's fine. Well let's see

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if Harden can make up for it at the other
end when he gets the ball in his hands. Now
down by one, that's what everybody wants to see. Nobody
wants to see, Nobody wants to see a whistle. And
then except those in at td Garden last night, a
whistle and then the ball turned back over to the
Celtics for them to run out the clock. I just
how about let me ask you a question on the

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first play? Was it in offensive foul? On the first
On the first one, I would have let it slide.
I wouldn't you? Would you let it slide? I just said,
was it? No? I don't think it was that bad.
On the second one, was it an offensive? Fact? I
think Smart did a little pull in, a little fall.
And it was so it was so dramatized, it was

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so spiced up with acting that you could see him nominated.
It was the whole thing. It's it's what Marcus Smart does. Okay,
that's that's bobo. Would you like okay? You asked from
You just asked him if he would have called the
foul right? What did you What was your first response
to Dan? I said, I would have let it go. Okay.
Then he asked you again, and you said, it wasn't

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that big of a deal. It wasn't that hard of
a That's still a foul, regardless of the fact or not.
That's still a foul. A foul's a foul if you
touch somebody while they're going down whatever, that's a foul.
So you can't say that you'll let it go, but
it's not a file. Can we get an engineer. I
think Bobo's off Mike is bro think. I think I think,
like the point is, is there a place in a
basketball game that could go either way? And I think that.

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Listen last night. I don't know how in the world.
I don't know anybody. I mean, yeah, Boston love to
see it. They came back and they rallied, but it
was still I'd love to see it because the fact
of the matter is number one, the first one. They
shouldn't have been put in that position. But the first
offensive foul was the right call because it did. You
can you can clearly see him and yes, of course

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Marcus Smart sold it. That's what he does. But James Harden,
if you go back and you look, or if you've
watched him play, you know he's lethal with his off arm,
whether it be off the dribble and he uses that
off arm to do that stop and step back pull up,
or whether it's trying to get space to get the ball.
He is habitual off arm user. We know this. These

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referees know this because they see them every night. Okay,
so look he gets the first one. I get it.
You're like, whoa Okay, Celtics inbound the ball. Al Horford
goes up by one. The second one, and when James
Harden grabbed the ball and Marcus Smart was standing in

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front of him, number one, he pushed him the first
time with the elbow. This is before the balls and mount.
He pushed him with the elbow, and then Marcus Smart
didn't move. Then he took the ball and he pushed
them extended the ball into his chest. The referee, the
same referee came over and told both of them, cut
it out. Stop it with the elbow, stop it. Stop it.

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He goes back to his spot, and fifteen seconds later,
what does James Harden do? What does he do? What
does he do? He's already set the president that he's agitated.
He's going to get give out chief shots. All right,
don't discredit that, because that means something. That means I,
as a referee, came over and told you, hey, cut

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it out, all right, let's just play ball. And then
I go back. You basically ignored everything I said and
then did it again. I mean, so you tell me
should I not call that? If I'm a referee, sh
I'd just be like, you know what. It reminds you
if if a ref came up to you in an
NFL game untild you in a defensive lineman to cut

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it out, like cut out the extra stuff, and all
of a sudden you kind of get a little close
to each other, wouldn't you flop and fall back? And
then the ref season author at it again. Guess what
you're now if he hit me? If so, he had
to have done something right here, it wouldn't because to me,
but you did what you just described as me walking
up near a player and flying back onto the ground,

(10:29):
which is what he would have had to make contact
with me. Right, So if the ref says, and I've
been in this situation, hey, he from you and Dwight Freeney,
cut it out, all right. We're going at it, we
pretty much slugging it out against each other. And he
spins and he's going down and I take my full
arm and jam it into the back of his shoulder
pads and force him into the ground, and they call

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a penalty on me because he just said to me,
cut it out. And although I thought that was a
legal play. If a player is spinning, loses control and
his falling, I can force him to the round. He
had just warned me, right, he just said to my face,
in my eyes, stop it from stop it, Dwite. And
on the very next play, I drive the guide to

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the ground with my full arm. You're not gonna call
that as as an official. Two things that need to
be pointed out in this when a ref says that
it's already advantage Marcus Smart, because now Marcus Smart, it's
to his advantage to to make any context. And and
the other thing is is remember we are eighty four
ft from the basket when this is happening. So when
James Harden, even though he may want to get separation

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in certain spots, this is an inbounds at their at
the opposite end of the court to be able to
get the ball inbounds. This isn't getting separation for a
three or for a game winning jumper. This is just
to get the ball in bounds. And it was never
even allowed to play out. And that's what to me
was was so disheartening is that there were opportunities. Maybe

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there were there was an opportunity for especially on the
second time for James Harden to get the ball into
to see a great finish and the c two teams
go at it and a lot of the Celtics to
get the last up. But it was it was robbed
of USC basketball IQ What don't blame it on him?
Where does basketball i Q come in? You said it
at the beginning of this little baby rant you had right,

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you said you, you said it. The advantage is Marcus smart.
He knows that, right. Guess who else knows it? Take
a guess James Harden? Oh wow, Right, he's an m
v P can of the last four years, right, Why
wouldn't he know the situation? So he chose to ignore it? Right?
Am I wrong with that? He chose to ignore it

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instead of stepping to the side, faking right, going left
to receive the ball. What did he do? What? What
did he decided to do? On straight towards the baseline
north and south? Was someone standing in between him and
the baseline? Did that person move at all? So that's
what I'm talking about. The silence to me is everything

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because you're only looking at it one way. You're looking
at it as a b and who wants to see
James Harden, get the ball and do something special because
that's but you're you're ignoring the rules. It's that's like
if that's like in football, if I throw a swing
pass out and the receiver of the running back runs

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ten yards and then he sees another receiver running down
the field and he throws it. He throws This is
a that's an exciting play, but it's against the rules.
You can't do with it. Nothing in that exchange on
the inbounds was going to determine the end of the
game unless Tony Brothers made the determinat No. I'm just saying, like,

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let it leave it up to the guys who are
playing the game. Like that's that's the point of being
intelligent the basketball I Q. You know in a situation
like that that I can't The man just told me
to cut it out. I just got one fifteen seconds prior.
If that doesn't resonate in your brain as a dynamic

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all Pro, all um world basketball player, then you do
you get what you get. I need you to be smarter,
all right. I need you to be smarter than a
fan at home. I need you to be smarter than
the referee, and I need you to be smarter offensively
than the defensive player, and he was none of those
and a twenty second span if he was dumb as rock.

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in about eight minutes or so of what's going on
in college football in the NFL, getting prep for a
week seventeen. But we're about to say about a seen
and look ahead eighteen And there's a report from from
Pro Football Talk that says former Buccaneers head coach John

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Gruden is in the process of assembling a coaching staff
behind the scenes and his return to the NFL. Well,
let's just use their terms. There is a quote growing
sense end quote. Then John Gruden will take over as
the head coach of the Buccaneers in place of Dirt
Cutter after the seventeen season is complete, So he would

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be nine years removed from returning or from coaching in
the NFL, leaving the Monday night football booth. If this
report is a cure it and now the question, then
I guess the first question is, even though you're in
the booth, has football passed John Gruden by? As this
football that we see weekend and week out in the
NFL different from the one that John Gruden had when

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he last left coaching, and different from the one let's
say fifteen years ago when he won a Super Bowl
with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers over the Raiders. Is football
different with John Gruden be able to come in and
have success right away the way he did things prior.
Uh yeah, I don't know if he'd had to have
success right away because you gotta build your staff. On
top of that, you got to build your team. You

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gotta get the guys you want. Now they have pieces.
They got a young quarterback who, if he can get
out of his own way, can really be something all right,
But defensively they have to make some some changes. He's
a defensive minded head coach. Uh So that's gonna bold
well for them if he assembles a great offensive staff
together to come and work with James Winston and and

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and and have him you know, change philosophy. And in
terms of making those silly mistakes, those balls that shouldn't
be thrown, we got to experience a lot of that
this summer watching hard knocks with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
He's still making those type of mistakes. But offensively, they
have weapons. They have weapons in I mean, you know

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DeSean uh Jackson, uh Evans great, Um Howard. If they
can just get you know, solidify that that that running
back spot and build out that defense. Of course, now
in terms of has the game passed him by, maybe

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if he was somewhere fishing in Wyoming or Montana for
the last you know what I'm saying, not being hands
on in the game. You're right, he knows what's going on,
he sees it. He's it's one of the best to
do it in the business and in terms of broadcasting it.
So no, it hasn't passed him by. He has his philosophy,

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he was he was adoring, good coach, he was able
to win a Super Bowl, was out of quarterback for
the most part. So I I think, yeah, I think
it's a smart move. That just put him in the
Ring of honor, didn't they. So now he gets to
coach into place and look up at his name, and
you know, he gets to do it his way because
they hold so much value in what he's done for

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that franchise and his his football mind. I think it's
a great move statistically for Jamis Winston, and we know
that he missed some time because of his shoulder issue,
but statistically this is his best year that he's had
in the NFL. His quarterback rating is up, the interceptions
are down at fifteen interceptions a rookie or eighteen another
and in thirteen starts this year, he's just thrown eight.

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But it's the what what bothers me about Winston and
when I look at his quarterback future and this is
this is a conversation that this isn't Tom Brady. Jamis
Winston went back onto the field to yell at a
referee last week because he was so upset with the call.
Jamis Winston also flicked the back of the neck of

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Marshawn Lattimore in a game against the New Orleans Saints
that led to the Mike Evans blindside shot in the
game that that he was suspended. I don't care if
Jamis Winston's emotional on the sidelines and emotional with his team,
but it just seems to me that Jamis Winston doesn't
know where the line actually is. So when I hear
of this Gruten move he from, I'm almost thinking it's

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more of it's up to John Gruden to show Jamis
Winston where this line is as a quarterback, even more
so than trying to develop in him into a top
ten talent, which he is talent wise in the NFL.
But that's where it seems more of where this move
would go if I'm the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, that he
would respect John Gruden so much, or that Gruden would

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be able to keep him in line so much that
you wouldn't see Winston going off on a referee in
a game or making those moves towards an opponent. That's
what this screams. I I agree with that. And you
gotta remember John Gruten has a rapport with these young
quarterbacks were coming out now because of his Gruden's quarterback
camp that he has, so he knew Jameis Winston before

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you know, he'll be able to coach him. He knows
his strength and knows his weaknesses. They come in and
sit in that bus. They've developed the plays and and
and and so on and so forth together. Um, and
he had high regards of this young man when he
was coming out in the draft. So to have the
opportunity to bring that stability to bring and Jamis Winston
respects him as well. So it's it's it's a combination

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of young talent looking up to a coach that that
that garners the utmost respect, and then being able to
work with him and help him make that next step,
stop all the childish antics. You know someone he will
listen to, someone he has respect for. That means a
lot in the NFL, that division would become crazy entertaining.

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I mean, it's already a great division where you can
have three teams from that division make the playoffs. But
now if you would put Jon Gruden in there, and
the Saints, which I thought this was gonna be their
ceremonial last victory lap, everybody moves on. Well, all of
a sudden they found a defense and they've got a
running game. And now it seems that Drew Brees will

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likely go back. There'll need a new contract to do so,
but that Sean Payton's gonna be around. Heck, you've got
Cam Newton and Carolina. We know that the Falcons and
what they they bring, at least being the defending Super
Bowl champs. That division now becomes crazy good. If John
Gruten ends up taking over, it does and now you
know it's a who's who Now it's to pick them

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over there? It really is. Did you look at everybody
has a quarterback? Right? It's very rare and there's day
and age in a division where everybody has a quarterback,
a legitimate starting quarterback, and then you have superior coaching
going on, and then offensive talent and weapons all over.
So it's gonna be a bloodbath and it's gonna you know,
you're gonna get the best team out of that division.

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And possibly, like you said that three, I mean it's possible.
There's there's reports that Gruden was making about six million
dollars annual at ESPN, so um, so the Buccaneers would
have to top that, which I don't think it's a
big night, big deal at all. I actually think it
was the awful Monday night games that probably pulled Cruden
away from those are But but if you gotta go

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watch Lions and Giants for six million dollars, Dan, would
you go talk about the Lions? I talk about the
Lions and the kittens for six million dollars a year
for one day a week, that's the weekend of work.
You fly out Saturday, get there, you know, fly out Friday,
get there Saturday, do your interview Sunday to do whatever.

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Monday you do the game, and then you go home
for six minutes. Yeah, I'll take it. I'll sign up.
I'll sign up right now. You see from Salam. I'm
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The New Year's Day six if you want to say,
actually starts not on New Year Day Buck Eyes in Trojans.

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Tonight we dive into that Cotton Bowl matchup coming up.
But first David Gascon gives us the latest on what's
been a crazy Bulk Bowl today featuring the A, C,
C and SEC. Yeah. ABS certually has a lot of
firepower of first half saw plenty of fireworks. The traces
up past the forty to make the catch forty five
and fifty midfield, Beer's left, Beer's right, twenty five, twenty

(23:22):
back to the left, five give it to him. Touts
down Jesse Banks fifty nine yards for the touchdown. Texas
A and M has back to back tds though, so
now they're within three thirty eight to thirty five. A
lot of time left. This ball game just started the
second half so far thirty five the wake forces in front.

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What's the name of this bowl game again? It's a
company store at the company. I think it's kind of
like eight did they sell footballs. I think it's gotta
like a Coles sort of store. They still close, yeahs,
I think it's more of an East Coast thing that
makes sense. Get their names out there. Hey, I bet

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to you would look it up and then find out
more about the company. All right, let me look up
bills straight to Zaxby's switching it over to the National
Football League. There's gonna be a change made, and maybe
even a couple of them for the Houston Texans. The
Houston Chronicle they've report that Texans are likely to fire

(24:24):
either Bill O'Brien or general manager Rick Smith. It will
happen after weeks seventeen since they're not making the playoffs.
Jaguars wide receiver Alan Hurts will play this weekend against Tennessee,
but on the other side, Titans have ruled out and
running back to Marco Murray. Tennessee Volunteers running back John
Kelly has declared himself the eighteen NFL draft. In a

(24:44):
major league baseball, Yahoo Sports has reported Wade Davis has
agreed on a three year deal with the Colorado Rockies
worth fifty two million dollars. I was surprised I saw
a breaking news squirrel on one of the networks today
and I'm like, oh, what's happening? Who got fired in
the NFL? And then I I saw, you know, the
the r A, and I'm like, all right, okay, let's

(25:05):
that's looks. I know it's it's it's the New Year's
and we've got tons of football in basketball. I just
wasn't ready for a baseball note. But wait, Davis on
the Move. I saw the breaking news their day with
Patrick Mahomes starting except and I was like, uh, really
is that really great? Yeah? Yeah, thanks So Bilk Shop clothing, beauty, shoes,

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home and more. They have nothing you would fit in,
Absolutely not. Have you ever gone to the mall and
nothing in their fit I mean, how you know how
depressing that is. You can go to a home, they
go to the bed we send they had a thousand
stores in there, and that one thing in there can
fit you superior your DNA. I've got the same problem,

(25:48):
but for other reasons. Unfortunately, you're not supposed to laugh
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six three six nine. When these New Year's six, as
you will, were put together by the College Football Playoff,
we got understood that not every game would be on
New Year's Day, but we're starting it early with the
Cotton Bowl. You've got the Orange Bowl this weekend, Peach
Bowl coming up, and of course Rose Bowl you have
on on Monday with the Georgia Bulldogs taking on Oklahoma,

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and then Clemson and Alabama and the other College Football
Playoff semifinal in the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans. But
I would argue, I know the fiestas Penn State in Washington,
and I mentioned the Peach Bowl at UCF Auburn showdown,
but really, of all the bowl games that you have,
when you want to talk about big names and big products,
it doesn't really get any bigger than Ohio State in

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USC and you, well, hey, I just a shirt and hat,
just a game day, and I have some fun with it.
But I mean, okay, take that all out of the case.
Wouldn't the Rose Bowl rather have Ohio State USC than
Georgia Oklahoma? Yes, yeah, I agree. I agree with that.

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Let's ask our next guest. You can hear him in
l A on his radio show Petros and Money on
a M five seventy l A Sports from two until
six local time, and of course you can always see
him on Fox Sports one covering college football. He's Petro
Papcas Petros. Would the Rose Bowl rather have USC Ohio
State than Georgia Oklahoma coming up on Monday? I mean
maybe maybe if you gave him how you guys doing

(27:37):
doing great? Yeah? Maybe if you uh maybe maybe if you, like,
you know, gave him true sireum and but and really
slapped them around. But I don't think they mind Georgia Oklahoma.
Those are two big time programs. It's got playoff implications.
People are gonna watch it, of course, and those people

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are gonna travel. And if you lived in l A
long enough, you realize you know what the Rose Bowl is.
You start seeing these, you know, usually it's just big
fat white people and sweatshirts like Wisconsin sweatshirts and stuff.
And it's around this time of year they just start
to kind of seep all over the place. You see
him out in the desert in Palm Springs, you see

(28:18):
him uh down in Orange County, you see him up
in Ventura County in Santa Barbara area, And they've all
traveled to the area to watch the game. It's great.
And this year most of Georgia has emigrated out to
California to watch this game. A lot of people in
Atlanta that I know about, and uh, And obviously Oklahoma

(28:38):
travels very well and it's a big game, so I
don't think they mind. Uh. You know, I thought Oklahoma
Washington State maybe about fifteen years ago, was probably the
worst of this. But you know, I remember a few
years back, remember Wisconsin versus TCU. TC was still in
the Mountain West. But man, was that a hell of

(28:59):
a game. That was on a TCUs coming out party.
I think that game put him in the Big twelve.
But man, was that a great game. And the and
the sun was right and the colors look good. So
you know, it doesn't always have to be packed twelve,
big ten, but it's preferable. But I don't think it
has to be petrol. Let me ask you a question.
You are the men of knowledge that spends the universe.

(29:20):
I mean you any topic. Petrols and I worked together
when we were when they told us we have faces
for television, they to put us on screen, and they
have since changed their mind for me at least, um,
I do the games. They can't see me. But how
do you feel about the number of bowls? Right? How

(29:42):
do you feel about teams being Bowl eligible? Was at
six wins? Yeah? You know, to me a it gives
these guys a chance to practice young people and young
people to improve. And the rules are different from when
when you and I played in college. You know, these
guys that are more restricted did with practice. So I
I don't mind the more teams get more practice time

(30:04):
and people watch, you know, people watch the Bowl games
and money exchange. A lot of money exchanges hands. I
mean people don't watch in the stadiums, and it's not
a great look for TV. We get a lot of
low camera angles, you know. But I mean as far
as just the money. People are making money, and these
guys get more of an experience, They get to travel

(30:27):
and be together for longer. I watch them. I watched
the dumbest ass one more than I watched the more
important ones. Usually with the Usually when the important ones
are on, I got to be at a party or
some event or some some function, you know. But when
the New Year's Eve was a bad idea, right, we
all had to do something as our wives made the plans.

(30:48):
But I mean, you know, honestly I from I don't
mind it. I just but at the same time, I understand,
you know why people would feel inundated with it. But
I watching Western Kentucky take the field, if you know
what I mean. Just Dacas joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Easy from Salam,
I'm Dan Buyer. Let's get to this cotton ball with

(31:10):
Ohio State USC tonight. What do we need to watch
from Sam Donald? If if you're an NFL fan and
you hope he goes to your team, what do you
want to see from Sam Donald tonight against this Ohio
State front Well, I mean, I think I think he's
done enough. I think there's enough tape on Donald. Uh.
Then then you know most quarterbacks. We've seen him in

(31:31):
a lot of big time situations and how he reacts.
But I think that would be the most interesting thing
for fans For me watching the game. What I want
to see as USC to play well enough within their scheme,
and I do not like their scheme, but if they
can play well enough to have the ball in Donald's

(31:53):
hands down the stretch, then that's going to be a
hell of a watch. That's gonna be fun to see. Uh.
Ohio State is gonna be the toughest game SC has
had all year. Their structurally the best team top to
bottoms space this year. But if Donald with Donald, SC
has a chance. I think if they did some other

(32:14):
things offensively, like god under center on fourth and one,
with the personnel that they have, uh, instead of being
in split backs most of the time. And I don't
want to get too technical, but their offense is kind
of more of a Conference USA thing. And I sort
of preached this all the time. I think if they
were to have a little bit more of that scheme
and their offense, they'd be in the playoff right now,

(32:37):
without a doubt. Uh. Instead, they found themselves in this position.
And obviously J. T. Barrett's a good tenured player, but
Donald is is way more talented, so much fun to watch.
The most fun thing for him to to to kind
of put out there on the field is when he
starts moving in the pocket and delivers the ball far

(32:58):
down the field and uh, he doesn't go side to
side as well as he just goes straight up in
the pocket and builds and uh, he's so strong, kind
of fun to watch. He's got a little hitch in
his throw, which NFL people are going to talk about
in the coming months. But you know, I just like
watching him play. He's just kind of a raw player.
He didn't have a quarterback guru, dad or one of

(33:22):
those guys that you pay a bunch of money to
when you're eleven years old in Orange County or nine
or whatever it is at this point. Uh, he played
volleyball and basketball in high school. You know, he's just
kind of a raw athlete, sort of a throwback. To me,
he's been the best USC quarterback that I've that I've
ever seen, to be honest, Well, who do you have,

(33:44):
you know, going to Cleveland out of Rosen? In in Donald? Uh?
You know, I mean, I take Donald just because he's
to me, he's a football player, if you know what
I mean. You know, I like Josh Rosen, But Josh
Rosen has a lot of tennis player still in him.
And that's not really a knock. You know, he was

(34:05):
a tennis prodigy as a young guy. But if you
know professional tennis or big time tennis or even big
time youth tennis, you know the difference. You know, it's
an individual sport, it's a country club sport. You fire
the coach. In tennis, the coach does not fire you.
You know, you fire the stretch guy, you fire the trainer.

(34:28):
You know, everybody works for you. Uh. And to me,
you know, Rosen is a great talent. He throws the
ball beautifully. I pick him number one. You know, I
guess I'd have to do the interviews and feel good
about how much he wants to play. I'd also want
to check out, you know what a whole three and
a half week concussion protocol is about for him, you know,

(34:50):
in his second concussion in a month or something. You know,
that would be of interest to me. But to me,
Donald is just the surefire. He's the best player I've
seen in the conference all around since Andrew Luck and
uh and that's no joke. So to me, Donald's an
easy first round pick any year. He's the college first

(35:10):
number one pick. Sure Sure, he's the college football analysts
doing work for Fox Sports at Fox Sports One, and
of course you can hear him in l A every
weekday afternoon, well not every but most weekdays afternoon on
l A Sports. Petro some money, Petro's Papa Acas. Thanks,
Petro's Happy New Year. We appreciate the time so much.
Have a great twenty eight team. My pleasure you guys.
Take care than find him on Twitter at the old

(35:32):
p your old teammates, that old Fox Sports one when
they wanted to show your face. I mean I have
a face for hdtailvision, you do. I have the voice
for radio. He is he from Salava. I'm Dan Buyer.
This is the Dog Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
As we are in for Doug today coming up next?

(35:54):
Does he from have the power to see how the
college football playoff? We'll play out, Well, we'll find out
next year on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Buyer. That's
from Salam. We are in for Doug. It's been doing
the TV thing all week for Colin Cowhard on the
Herd on Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports One. You

(36:14):
can always reach us on Twitter. Get from at from Salam.
I'm a Dan Buyer on Fox and it's time to
play a game from I like games, and for this game,
we bring in David gascon On. Hello David, the one
and only. What's up, guys? What game are we playing today?

(36:35):
Let's take a psychic psychic? All right? I excited for
this one. Yeah, we get to look ahead e from
is able to look into the future. I'm one eighth psychic.
I just want to put that up there. Put that
on an app al Right, here we go this the
dysfunction in New York's Giant slank room continues on. We've
heard many things of may things going on surrounding Eli Apple. Well.

(36:58):
Mike Freeman from bleacher Report wrote that other players have
spoken out about Apple. One player said he's the worst
teammate I've ever had, and an a s C front
office exact added that the team has no leaders and
that you're seeing how one or two guys can poison
an entire locker room. So, gentlemen, is the quickest fixed
for the Giants simply the part ways with Eli. Yes,

(37:22):
it is the simplest and the only way. There's nothing
else that they can do it. Don't try to trade
him because it's such negative press out there on him.
It's it would be impossible to trade him or anything
like this. You just gotta cut bait. You know what
else it reflects, though? I believe it's that when you
look at Eli Manning and you look at the Super
Bowl they won the first time against the Patriots, that's
a Michael Strahan team. And then you look at the

(37:44):
Super Bowl that they win against the Patriots the second time,
and maybe it's uh An, you know, Justin Tuck, you
know JPP, that sort of team. And now you get
to maybe when Eli should have that role of being
that guy and he's unable to fulfill it. I think
that's also an interesting angle looking for veteran leadership. How

(38:05):
about this starting quarterback who has won two Super Bowls?
Uh yeah, when they decided to bench him, that kind
of diminished his his role on that him and he's
never been that guy. He's never been that guy period.
So you know, like Landon Collins seems to be more
of the even though he spoke out and brought Eli
Apple's name into it, he seems to be well, sometimes

(38:26):
that's what you want your leader to do. You know,
if if someone is such a cancer in a locker room,
it's only so much you can take in as a leader.
You gotta step up and and and and and you
gotta acknowledge it. You gotta acknowledge it because that's the
only way you're gonna be able to get something done. Well,
guy's good news. Brandon Marshall should be back next season.
Very well done, Very well O b j Alright, guys

(38:49):
on a number two Heisman Trophy winner Baker Mayfield will
take on George at the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day,
and a lot has been made about the quarterback class
this year for the draft in eighteen, Sam Donald of
Than Kallenge Josh Rosen of USTe Laneley in the charge
as potential top picks the next year's draft. With all
that being said, if Mayfield leads Oklahoma to a national championship,

(39:11):
will he jumped those two guys and be the number
one overall pick. No, he will not. He won't jump,
but he he won't jump them, but he will jump
up big time. He will jump up, but he won't,
you know, surpass those two guys. I think a lot
of teams and of course we still have workouts to
do and combine. I'm sure none of them would throw
out the combine. Uh, but it's just the interviews. I'm

(39:34):
sure teams are locked on on these guys. They've been
watching them for a couple of years now, and I
don't think it's anything Baker Mayfield can do at this
present time to jump above them. But I will say this,
and not only for his legacy, but it would really
help his draft stock if you got wins over Georgia
and then again over Alabama or Clemson, to show that
you can succeed and do so at a high level

(39:56):
against those times. I get that. I think it's just
teams a word about the whole Johnny Mensdale aspect of it,
not saying that he has a severe drinking problem or practice.
He does have some immaturity, and I know it's cool
for social media and Instagram and all of that to
show him dancing and doing all of that stuff, but

(40:16):
jeems kind of don't want the quarterbacks to do that,
and theyway, that's true. That's true. Thanks Dave, We appreciate it.
David a little psychic there. He'll also have the press
coming up later on in the show. This is the
Doug Gottlieb Show. He'sy from Salam I'm Dan Buyer and
it's big news in the NBA. Did James Harden foul

(40:39):
or not foul to cost his team a victory? Last night?
We talked about it next year on Fox Sports Radio tonight.
In college football, it's at Cotton Bolls showed down in Arlington,
Ohio State taking on USC and at one point at
least leading up to the selection process, especially in the
Buckeyes case, you wondered if they were going to make
it into the College Football Playoff. They did, and now

(41:01):
you've got this showdown in Arlington tonight, one of the
better New Year's Six bowls that you will get. Of course,
the College Football Playoff rolls on the semifinals on New
Year's Day with the Alabama Crimson Tide taking on defending
national champion Clemson in the Sugar Bowl. But prior to that,
it will be Georgia and Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl.
We'll hear from Petros papadakas he joined us earlier to

(41:22):
get a little look inside that USC Ohio State matchup.
Then we will also dive into the news involving Houston
and the Houston Texans in Bill O'Brien and Rick Smith.
He may have heard David gascon saying his update. There
are reports that the team could move on from one
of the two other Bill O'Brien or Rick Smith. That's
a topic of conversation. But we also have a topic

(41:44):
topic of conversation from about what happened with the Houston
Rockets last night against the Boston Celtics. And it's just
a matter of is this you're on the side of it?
Was an offensive foul on James Harden both times should
have been called. No argument whatsoever that follows called in
the first half. It should be called with the last
seven seconds of the game. And I summarize it correctly,

(42:05):
that's pretty much it um. I think the first one
definitely was I think the second one, Uh, James Harden
should have been smarter, knew the situation and knew that
he can just go directly through a defender who had
established himself. And I think the era was on on

(42:26):
on his part and not the referee period. And I
and I think that Tony Brothers was whistled happy and
got caught up in the emotion and but there's no
fault in James Harden in your mind. I just don't
think it was enough. I also think that Marcus Smart
on the second one got tangled up and because it
was advantaged Marcus Smart. Marcus Smart is known for flopping.

(42:49):
We we know that that that is. But you know,
you know NBA rules right, Yes, you know you can't
run through a player and established position. You know that right,
like feeding not moving. I'm standing here, I'm not touching you,
I'm standing here straight. You know you can't directly run
through that person. I also know whether whether Marcus Smart

(43:12):
hold on. I know whether Marcus Smart fail or not.
You know you can't just push him out of bounds, yes,
and I also know that you can't take more than
two steps without dribbling. But we see it all the
time in the NBA with the NBA's best, and we
see it in situations with guys going to the basket.
This wasn't even close to the basket. There was there,
there was There was going to be an advantage gained,

(43:33):
and the only advantage gained in this spot was maybe
the Rockets getting the ball in bounds. It wasn't the
Rockets getting a clear look at a three. It wasn't
James Harden getting a jumper a clean look at a
at a shot that would allow them to win the game.
This was imbounding from ninety feet away from the basket,
and we're calling back to back fouls. To make this,
in my mind, more about Tony Brothers than anything else.

(43:56):
Situations you have to look at the entirety of the situation. Right,
he got one, he got a little physical. In between
plays with Marcus Smart, Tony Brothers came over and said,
what break it up? Stop, don't do it, keep your
hands to yourself, put it down, sit on your hands,

(44:17):
be quiet, eat your food, do your homework. All the
things that a parent would do when two siblings are
going at it, and then not more than twenty seconds later,
one sibling decides, I'm gonna push my brother to the
ground out of bounds. What would your mom do? What
would your mom do? Oh? There would be there would

(44:38):
be There would be punishment. So just look at it
like that. Take basketball out of it. Right, You're at
home with your brother. You guys are wrestling. You guys.
You push your brother over the couch. Wait a minute,
your mom says, hey, she's standing right there. She sees you. Hey,
what are you doing? You get up, you and your
brother getting each other's face. You wash him again, she says,

(45:00):
stop it right now. The next time you're in trouble.
Twenty seconds later, you decide you're going to run your
brother and knock him down on the kid run him
over and knock him down on the kitchen floor. What
is the reaction of your mother? What would she do?
She would she would be very angry. What would she do? Yes,
where you're in a spanking household? Did you spanking? So

(45:21):
you just have time out? We got spanking. It was
actually a pretty good kid. My mom would electrify my
behind after that. Okay, there's no time out in the
salam household. So there was no time out for James Harding. Okay,
you know it was electrified. He got his but spank.
You know what your mom wouldn't do. Your mom wouldn't
then catch a flight and go and parents another family

(45:42):
in Cleveland the next night, like Tony brothers would do,
and then you would have a new parent come in.
There are probably half the referees in the NBA that
don't make that call that they would just let it
go then, but the other half just saying thank you,
it's not as cut and dry that that is an
automatic foul, and that Tony brothers Ito. It looked really bad.
It looked pretty bad. But didn't it look pretty bad?

(46:04):
Like when you watched you like oh before the whistle?
The first one was worse than the second one. I
think the second one you could see that they're tangled.
In fact, Hardened seems to lose his balance going forward
on the second one, and it almost seems like Smart
is pulling him as Smart is going on his back.
And that's the only reason that happened. Was why because

(46:25):
the defensive player stabbed. I'm using words that are in
the rule book so people don't think I'm just flying
off the handle. The defensive player established position and didn't move.
He didn't move. He doesn't have to move. But James
Harden could have took a step to the right, could

(46:46):
have took a tip to the left, but he decided
he wanted to go right through the player's chest. Maybe
maybe Jeff and san Antonio can settle this in San Antonio,
I have a feeling I know what side he's gonna be.
Jeff walking to the Duck gott Leap Show. Hey, thanks
for taking my call. Yeah, I wanted to win on
the game last night. So you talked about the two
calls on Harden, but but I feel like there's a

(47:07):
third X factor, no call to consider my opinion. So
a nine seconds that the rockets dro up by three,
the balls about the smart I think, yeah, you look
down and see old dudes doing the electric slide. So
I know that traveling in the NBA is as open
to interpretation as like holding in the NFL. But you
guys made a point earlier that a foul is a foul,
so in that same regard is apparently not a penalty.

(47:29):
Tony Brothers was right in front of him on the
inbound I want to get you take on that. That's
and that's what that's the point that I mentioned is
traveling is without dribbling. After two steps on dribble, after
two steps, take a third, it's traveling, but we rarely
see it. And and I think that Jeff's point is
valid there that there are times in the NBA. There

(47:50):
are many times in the NBA where we don't see
a travel and whether it be from going to the basket,
whether it's Lebron gonna send home a dunk, or if
it could be something as innocent of just keeping your
pivot foot is he just mentioned there out on the
wing when you're holding the ball, really no advantages gain,
but you are traveling if the pivot foot is somewhat moving.
And that's the point that I'm making here is this

(48:11):
was so far away from the basket. We don't know
if Hardon makes the shot or even gets a clean look.
He just didn't even get the opportunity to get the
ball on an inbounds. I get it. I understand that, yes,
that was traveling. They almost travel almost on every play um,
But when the ball is not in play right, a

(48:32):
player has been warned of a behavior, player ignores warning
and does said behavior again. That's going to be called
every time, every single time. So it's not a shock
to me. It wasn't a shock when he called that
second one because he just warned him, called one before,
warned him again, and then he decided to do it himself.

(48:54):
The onus is not on Tony Brothers. It's the onus
is on James Harden, period, and there's nothing, it's no
way around that. You have to have a higher basketball
I Q to know you're under a microscope is three
seconds left in the game. Why would I even put
myself in the position not to get the ball. Why

(49:14):
do you think they call that on Lebron? Yes, I
think so. I think the situation and and first of all,
I don't think Lebron would ever do that. I honestly
don't think Lebron or any other superstar would ever put
themselves are their teams in that position? I really don't.
Lebron is in the shot category where if they make

(49:37):
contact with someone that's usually stronger than that. Right, he
knows that, I don't think he. Why would he? Why
would First of all, you're going the other direction, right,
Why would you be going towards that baseline to get
the ball? With three seconds left? They were gonna run
out of time. But don't you want to catch the
ball on the run going the other So think about that?

(49:59):
He north all of that. This is when I when
I say basketball, I Q That's what I mean. Right,
So if he gets the ball, If if Marcus Smart
would have moved out of the way and he gets
the ball going towards his baseline, that's you've got nothing.
You spent a whole second turning around and attacking the
other way. So instead of just putting one hand on

(50:21):
his chest and springboarding off and going the other direction.
He wanted to prove a point and drive Marcus Moore
all the way out of bounds to get the ball,
which makes no sense in terms of an actual basketball
play with three point two seconds left on the clock.
Let's let James Harden have the last word in this,

(50:41):
as he spoke last night with reporters after his two
offensive fouls cost the Rockets the game. You know, how
do you wanna have two officials on the national CITIA game? Um,
that's the first question. But a lot of grabbing, a
lot of holding. Um, I mean one I'm I supposed
to call? How else am I supposed to get open?

(51:01):
I'm gonna ask two wounds rapped from my my whole body.
So if you can't have two officials in a professional game,
there's a lot of new calls that they need to
be called because that changes the dynamic of the game.
You know, then you got fast break points, m no calls,
turnovers or whatever the case may be. But it's a
professional game. National TV can't happen. Okay, So there's James

(51:26):
hard So okay, agree. So I'm gonna ask you was
Marcus Smart's arms straight up in the air or were
they wrapped around him. I think that they were entangling
him on the second one. Okay, so you have to
know then you're gonna say, no, no, okay, what's his hand?
Where his hands straight up in the air. We're Marcus smart? Yeah,

(51:49):
are his hands in the air? They aren't there entangled,
They are entangled with him. They tell you what. Oh,
as we watched the replay last night, look at his
hands clearly being pulled by hands are up in the air.
His hands are up in the air. Are you watching
it with me? We're both looking at maybe there was

(52:12):
even smiling. He wasn't playing in He made a statement.
He made a face. Statement was false, that his arms
were wrapped around me. He said his arms were wrapped
around me. Anyone with eyes, if you agree with me
or disagree with me, just look at the clip. His
arms are clearly in the air. Period. Here's your point

(52:32):
about them not getting a shot off then in the
final three point seven seconds because of the position that
he was in is so is is almost to the
fact of you know what, that's probably why Tony Brothers
shouldn't have made the call, because if they just inbounded
like you said, they don't there is there is his job.

(52:53):
All of a sudden, we look at a seventy footer
from James Harden that falls short and we say, okay,
the Celtics earned that one. It's now we're saying this
was this. It's not the referee call to determine whether
the player is going the right direction or whether you
call make a call or not. If a fowl or
an infraction occurs, then that's when you make the call,

(53:17):
not oh, he should be going the other way because
he's not going that way. I'm not gonna make this call.
What that's ridiculous, doesn't even make sense. Hey, we didn't
we missed out on a great ending because what we
got a great ending. We got a team coming back
from points and then win by one point, and that's
a great ending. That game meant more to the Rockets

(53:38):
than it did the Celtics because the Rockets need absolutely
every single game they can get to try to keep
pace with the Warriors Boston. It's more on the Calves
and if the Calves want to turn it down or not,
they're determine what's going to happen in the East. But
the Rockets, I think, need every single game they can
have and they lost one last night in Boston. He's
from Salam. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Dog Got

(53:58):
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(54:40):
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(55:01):
Ross Tucker joins us here on the Doug gott Leap Show. Hey, Ross,
thanks so much for coming on and Happy New Year. Yeah,
happy New Year, my pleasure. And finally get a couple
offensive linement. I'll play inside because I couldn't pass block outside.
That's okay, man, as long as we can handle them
games on third and long, it's all. Let's Ross. We
were just mentioned or I just mentioned the Houston situation

(55:22):
with the Texans. This is has been an interesting dynamic
over the last couple of years as they were trying
to find their quarterback. How do you think this plays
out in Houston? Is Bill O'Brien long for that job
or do they make a move with Rick Smith instead. Yeah,
this is pretty much the worst kept secret in the NFL.
I mean, I think everybody knew this, even last year

(55:43):
when there were rumors about Bill O'Brien potentially being traded.
He doesn't get along with Rick Smith at all, and
they haven't from the start. And that's kind of what happens.
By the way, when the GM and the head coach
aren't tied it to hip and when really that GM
just hires the head coach at the owner tells him
to hire even though it's not the guy that he

(56:05):
really wants and they don't have any prior relationship. I mean,
it's been like this for a couple of years now,
and I gotta be honesty, I have no idea which
direction Bob McNair will go, you know, on the one end,
does he say you know what? I'm thinking? With Rick Smith?
He's made some pretty good picks with guys like DeAndre Hopkins,
J J. Watt, Whitney Merciless to Daveon Clowney. I'm not

(56:27):
I'm not getting him out of here, especially the DeShawn
Watson pick. Or does he say you know what? So
often was looking pretty darn good and Bill O'Brien system,
I mean, he was putting up crazy numbers. I have
no insight into how it will play out, other than
I can't imagine both of those guys are back, so
it'll be fascinating. I played there five years. I I

(56:49):
know Rick Smith well. He was in Denver. He was
playing personnel guy in Denver. When I was there, I
had a good relationship with him. Uh, relationship changed a
little bit when he came became a GM. I get that,
I understand that, but I think, like you said, he's
done enough in terms of putting the team together in
terms of those players he picked, especially the last one

(57:11):
being um Deshaun Watson, and what he's able to do.
The fact, I think it really came to a head
uh last year when they went out and signed um
Brock Ross Wilder to all of that money without even
talking to Bill O'Brien like that. He didn't even have
a conversation with Brock Oswalder or or talked to him

(57:34):
about the system that he wanted to run. That was
something that the GM and the owner wanted to do,
so they ran out and did that without Bill O'Brien
being a part of that. And I think that's when
the relationship really became unreparable because that turned out into
to be a disaster. And and so if I were
to make a guess, I would guess that Bob McNair

(57:57):
would stay with Rick Smith because he's enough in terms
of the talent he's uh brought to the team over
Bill O'Brien. Yeah, you know, you might be right. The
only thing I would say that that is Rick Smith's
been there a while now, you know, so I wonder
if McNair feels like Rick Smith's had his opportunity and

(58:21):
had been there for a couple of coaches and go
in a different direction. And I know this, It does
not help Rick Smith that DeShawn Watson has come out
publicly multiple times and said he wants Bill O'Brien there.
He wants Bill O'Brien to be there the whole time.
And if you do that, you're putting yourself in a
really bad position potentially with your franchise quarterback and with

(58:45):
the fan base, because the fan base knows that Deshaun
Watson has said that, and so you're also subjecting yourself
to a lot of criticism of things don't go well
next year with a new coach when want to make
it clear that he wanted O'Brien to be the guy.
Ross Tucker joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. You
can find Ross on Twitter at Ross Tucker NFL. We're

(59:06):
just coming down within the last centeral ten minutes or so.
Adam Schefter st Dirt Cutter is gonna return next year
for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. How how much of a
realistic possibility was it for John Gruden to maybe come
in and take that job. I mean, everybody, over the
last two hours, the reports were really really heating up

(59:28):
that Gruden was going to be coming back to the Bucks.
And it's like it's almost like the Bucks felt that
or heard that and just quashed it. It's it's really
interesting me. I mean today, both you know, Jake Gruden
as well as Dirk Cutter have evidently heard that that
they're gonna be retained. You know, I'll believe that Gruden
leave that money like football box when I see it,

(59:51):
because I don't know that he'd have a much better
situation than going to the Bucks. But maybe the Bucks
didn't want him. Yeah, that's weird. You know, we just
we had a whole segment early or about you know what,
what the game would passing by, you know, and then
all of a sudden we get this report. I'm still
not a believer. Will see, I've heard things before from

(01:00:12):
from ownership and g MS about certain coaches were riding
with them. And then on Monday, on Black Monday, we
it flies across the scene breaking news such and such
fire from such and such. So I'll wait and see
and where you know, I think John Gruden, I think
it'd be great. I think it'll take a lot for
him to come out of that that booth. Uh. We're

(01:00:33):
talking about how great that job is. Uh, and I
mean it gives him a lot of freedom to be
with family. Was something he wanted to do when he
left coaching. But maybe he's got that edge, maybe he
wants back in. Maybe he sees something uh with Tampa
Bay and Jameis Winston and and and the tools that
they have there that he can maybe make a run
at it. Yeah, you know, I think that they felt

(01:00:57):
like with hard knocks and all that stuff, that maybe
that he deserved one more year. I think, you know,
surprisingly what's helped them is, I know they've lost the
last couple of games, but Jamis Winston's look awesome, and
so I know that there are only four and tenement
I think four eleven Now. I think the way that
Jamis Winson's played the last couple of weeks has been

(01:01:20):
somewhat encouraging. And maybe the demand for John Gruden we're
just too much at this point, or maybe it'll be
like when Gruden got fired, like three weeks from now,
they'll change their mind. I mean because he got fired
like late January. I remember, right, Yeah, that's exactly right.
I mean it's hard to as good as jam As
Winston has looked. I mean they lost their last five games.

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I mean that's you know, that's that's tough to to
to deal with for any coach. Uh, you know, whether
the quarterback is playing great or not. You don't get
to be guys. And I'm asking you, guys his former
players and Ross you can go first on this. But
when you have a when Lovey Smith is there, Levy
Smith is a defensive coach. When you have you bring

(01:02:03):
in dirt Cutter then to take over for him and
say you want to moldest team against you know, around
Jamis Winston. What I don't understand is then if you're
the head coach, aren't you taking away some of the
focus on the offense by taking your offensive coordinator and
promoting him. Wouldn't it be better to just let the
offensive coordinator and nurture and and and take the quarterback
or rosso? Am I crazy in thinking that that that

(01:02:25):
would that it's maybe it is better to have an
offensive head coach. I just think that when they moved
away from Lovey Smith that it allowed Dirt Cutter to
not have as much time to mold Jamis Winston. No,
that's the um. The issue is that they thought he'd
leave the issue and why they promote him. That's I

(01:02:45):
never liked that, but that was why they did it. Okay,
They they liked the progress that Winston may Undercutter, and
they were worried that Cutter was gonna leave, and they
really decided to keep Cutter over Lovey Smith because they
didn't want to take the chance to Cutter with leaves.
I mean, they deemed Lovely Smith to be replaceable and

(01:03:06):
Dirt Cutter to not be. That's why do you do it?
I think you're right. I think you'd rather have them
just get the coordinator and just working with Jamis every day.
But you'd rather have me the head coach and not
be there at all. I guess the answer. Yeah, I
I get that. And most gms and most owners make
this mistake where they fall in love with the coordinator
and and fear of losing them, they promote them the

(01:03:27):
head coach. But not all. Not all offensive and defensive
coordinators make great head coaches because you do have to
have a pulse on what's going on on both sides
of the ball. And then so so often, so many
times we've seen those guys not really hone in on
the offensive side of the ball. You look at Jack
del Rio and and even as his time in Jacksonville

(01:03:48):
and I played under Jacksonville, you can care less of
what was going on offensively, it was all about the defense.
We're seeing it happening now in in Oakland. Last year
they got away with it by winning some tight, close games.
This year not so much offly, They're just not the
same team they were last year. So whenever you have
such a strong minded offense or defensive coordinator, you know

(01:04:09):
they it takes a special type of coach to be
a head coach and and and facilitate on both sides
of the ball. Are It takes tremendous offensive defensive coordinators
under those um under those head coaches. So that and
I'm with you from because I feel like that is
the flaw, right is that what makes a guy a

(01:04:32):
great coordinator, which is essentially calling plays and on some
level game planning, really is not what being a head
coach is all about. I mean, head coach is about
gay management and attention to detail and you know, really
being a leader of men. But just because you are

(01:04:52):
good with the joystick in your hand playing Madden doesn't
mean you're a good leader of that. You know that's
true of a He's Ross Tucker, the former NFL offensive
lineman and host The Sirius Sex m NFL, and this
week was actually doing some hosting on the Dan Patrick Show. Ross,
before you leave, what the heck is ball cannon? I mean,

(01:05:13):
this is like the the football gun that is above
all football guns, explained, It's like the only It's like
the only football It's amazing. What what's hilarious about it
is it's a guy from my hometown in Pennsylvania and
he called me and told me about it and said, hey,
doing it involved? I said, no, absolutely not, I way

(01:05:33):
too much going on. So he drove to my house
and showed it to me. I said, oh, yeah, let's
do this because it's awesome. I mean, it's like a
jug machine that you see NFL players catching passes off of,
but it's for recreational use. You're back. I mean I
have one for my four and five year old. I

(01:05:54):
bought three. Now I got once to my nephew last year,
who's eight. And when I tell you, guys, on Christmas
Eve he played without Tide for three hours. He played
with it for three hours. And they're like fifteen kids
in the neighborhood. They're like, it's it's that dead. And
I know the holidays are behind us, but the new
year's here and a lot of kids get money for
Christmas and Hannekun the holidays, and if you're looking for

(01:06:16):
some place to put that money, I'm just telling you
this will be something that they play outside for hours
with and get off the iPad. In the video game,
it's called the Ball Canon. Just check out the video
for yourself and paulcan dot com and you'll see it's amazing.
I've only seen like the ones that are rocket balls.
This has touch on it, it's got angles, it's yeah,

(01:06:38):
it's it's magnificent watching I'm watching it. We appreciate it. Ross,
have a great and uh, we'll do it again. Then
how about that? Likewise, guys, take care of thanks. Ross
Tucker joining us here on the Doug Gott Lead Shows.
It's all brought to you by True Cars. We talk
all things NFL. Heck, we didn't even get to wild cards.
We're talking about all the drama happening in Tampa or
in Houston, because that seems to have a little bit

(01:07:00):
more juice. But we will get to the wild cards easy.
From Salam, I'm Dan Buyer as we are in for
Doug Gottlieb. Right after we hear from David Gascott, who
gives us an update of what's happening right now in
college football. Points, lots of lots of points. Do you
guys watch all of the Stanford TCU game last night?
I watched a good part of it. I was I

(01:07:20):
did watch some of the Holiday Bowl and then some
of the NBA action, but watched a decent amount of it. Yeah,
I thought that was a disappointing conclusion that ball game.
But similar to last night, Wake Forest and Texas A
and M and then gone back and forth, hand off,
untouched into the end zone. That's Ford Lord Carry's touchdown.
Texas A and M a one yard carry. That's the

(01:07:42):
first lead for the Aggies and now they're on front
forty five to forty one, but the Demon Deacons are
on the move. There got the ball just inside the
ten yard line of Texas say at M so this
is kind of uh, it's a firefight, but one that
doesn't look like it's gonna anytime soon. There's still like
ten forty to play in the fourth quarter. In that one,
you wall twenty four rank North Carolina leading Arizona State

(01:08:03):
in the Sun Bowl fourteen state uh, Arizona State fourteen
the three. So that ball game right now, still seven
o three to play in the second quarter, and that one,
don't forget. Later on tonight you get Ohio State and
USC in the Cotton Bowl. Kickoff time is at eight
thirty Eastern. Gentlemen, There's some news in the national football
that broke about a few minutes ago. Rick Stroud has

(01:08:25):
report that Dirt Cutter will retain his job as head
coach of the Buccaneers in the Glazer family had an
informed Cutter today that he would not be fired despite
his record sitting right now at four and eleven, So
some good news for him, at least on that front.
Grimmy Packers are setting wide receiver Davante Adams to a
multi year extension, and the Houston Chronicles reported that the

(01:08:46):
Texans are likely to either fire Bill O'Brien or general
manager Rick Smith so that'll be coming here in a
few days as Black Monday nears its way past Week seventeen.
And one note with playoff implications at stake to to
see Titans have ruled out running back to Marco Murray
with a nice sprain. Titans have the Jaguars coming up
on Sunday and what is a must win for Tennessee

(01:09:09):
if they want to get into the wild card to
grab one of the wild cards. And thanks Dave for that.
With the with the coaching news with the dirt Cutters,
we just talked with Ross Tucker. By the way, I'm
Dan Buyer. That's e from Salama's wearing for Doug Gottlieb today.
It is interesting on how all of these rumors and
talks and guys staying in getting contracts the Texans one,
it was the Osweiler deal that you mentioned without even

(01:09:32):
talking to Bill O'Brien, seemed to be the real. Okay,
Bill O'Brien, we've done it your away with former Patriots
quarterbacks this whole time. Now I'm gonna do it in highway.
And then it was worse than anything that they have had. Yeah, yes,
it was like it was it was tripling down on
badness that you had with Houston. That was an expensive
misstep by them. They got a they got from under it,

(01:09:55):
which was you know crazy. Took someone like Cleveland to
to get them off, to let them off the hook.
But the fact that you signed a quarterback and he
doesn't even the head coach is not even involved. I
mean that let me know that the things weren't on
the up and up over there, and it was a
huge disconnect between O'Brien and Rick Smith. And I just

(01:10:17):
think I think Rick has done enough in terms of
you look at the superstar players on the Houston team
with led by j. J. Watt, Whitney, Merciless, Jadeveon Clowney,
Uh Deshaun uh Watson. You have all of this talent

(01:10:40):
that Rick has helped pick and put together this team.
And you know Bill O'Brien, Yeah, he's won a division
the last three years. I believe it was uh with
no quarterback. But the fact that those two aren't on
the same page. The owner and Rick Smith brought in

(01:11:01):
uh brock os Wilder, they're on the same page. Yeah,
A man out is Bill O'Brian, Right, So when you
look at it like that and you know, I've heard
from my insight sources that has been contention there. It's
been some flare ups around the facility with would would
management and coaching staffs and stuff like that. So I

(01:11:24):
just don't see if the owner and the GM are
on the same page when they're picking players and they
don't even consult the head coach that doesn't vote Woll
for the head coaches job. There are two things that
I think are important here and you can weigh in
on both of them. Is that I want you to
Number one, if the Shawn Watson would have been healthy

(01:11:46):
and at a full season with Bill O'Brien and had success,
that would bode much better for Bill Oben. Absolutely, if
they were in the playoffs going to we wouldn't even
be having this conversation. Absolutely, But we don't know that. No,
we don't. So the great unknown is a detriment to him. Yes,
And the other point is I do think that the
Texans are going to have decisions to make on defense
coming up to just gonna be getting a bigger pay day.

(01:12:09):
But I think after the season, I don't know if J. J.
Watson are going to be the same, and it's most
likely and I hate to say it. I love JJ,
I love what he's done. Um, but coming off those
type of injuries first to back, he was never gonna
be the same after the back, it just wasn't gonna happen.
He was gonna be a great player, but he wasn't
gonna be the state. I mean he literally was you

(01:12:31):
every play, every play he had an effect on the play.
We didn't see that early this year while he was,
you know, playing healthy. I went multiple games with no sacks. Uh,
So you know, he wasn't going to be as dominant.
And of course it takes time to come back from
those injuries. But the problem is when you're coming back
from an injury, trying to regain your footing, and then

(01:12:52):
you get another severe injury that just set you back
another two years. So you know, usually the year you
know after especially a heavier person, you know, but he
takes a year and a half after the a c
O for you to feel like you're back to normal.
But then you have the back issue as well, so

(01:13:13):
that's probably has run its course. He'll still be valuable,
but you know, million dollar valuable. Yeah, that's the big question.
And so you're gonna want somebody in there that's gonna
be able to make that decision on what you're going
to do with those contracts. Easy From Salami, I'm dan buyer.
Do you want to correct myself? I said Tennessee has
to win on Sunday, As Dave said, de Marco Murray's
out of that game, that's not the case. They could

(01:13:34):
still get in with a Bill's loss to the Jets
and also a Chargers loss to the Um to the
Blue my blanking of the Bronco. No, it's not the Broncos.
It's the Raiders. It's the Raiders. That's That's how things
can That's how things can get it There at least
changed for the Tennessee Titans. They don't need to beat Jacksonville,

(01:13:56):
but they need the Buffalo Bills to end up losing
to the Dolphins. And then I think I said Jets.
I got both teams wrong. From Dolphins need to beat
the Bills and the Raiders need to beat the Church
the Tennessee Titans to get into the playoffs. We'll get
all of these scenarios under wraps, will do so in
about thirty minutes or so. But coming up next, there
is one quarterback in the National Football League. That is

(01:14:17):
a big target on his back and he's not even
heading to the postseason. We'll tell you who that is
next here on Fox Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Buyer. That's e from Salam.
We had Ross Tucker on the earlier. Now we got
another offensive Linemann were taken over. All right, we're taken over.
We will run you over, Yes, yes we will. Uh.

(01:14:41):
Bobo and Rob doos Madi also handling everything those money
our executive producer, and Bobo our technical producer today and
David Gascon handling things in the updates and giving us
the latest of what's happening. Is now three bowls from
our underway football. Okay, we have the hill Bo still
on one. The Sun Bowl Sun Bawl, one of my favorites.

(01:15:04):
Let me that's played in Arizona. That's an el pass
Sunny there too. Okay? Um and the um uh the
slim jim Uh snap him if you got no. I
was trying to mimic a music the Music Po Bowl,

(01:15:25):
not the Fun City Bowl. Are the the air Guitar Bowl?
What did you want me to do? Air violin? Would
that have been better for you. I couldn't do air
guitar to try to tell you a music City Bowl
Kentucky up on Northwestern. But that's early on. Just in
the opening drive for the Wild Let's see TV. It
is the Doug Gottlieb Show. This is must listen Radio

(01:15:46):
USY from SLAM. I'm Dan Buyer. Just because Doug isn't here,
as Doug's been in for Colin Cowherd on the Herd
all week long, doesn't mean we aren't gonna do what
Doug likes to do at this time. Show it is
and it's time for Noah to get the hanging in.
Earlier today, the topic of conversation happened surrounding one Dallas

(01:16:11):
Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott's The issue of several players in
Dallas is the predictable playbook. Opposing teams know exactly where
the ball is going. So that seems on the surface
like an indictment of Scott Littahan, the offensive coordinator, and
Jason Garrett, former offensive coordinator for a quarterback coach, former
quarterback with the Cowboys who's now the head coach. That's

(01:16:34):
what it would seem when no one is saying everybody
is actually saying in Dallas, right, they're saying, Hey, the
offense isn't that creative, it's predictable. But what they're not
saying is where that blame falls. The honest reality of
it is allow of it falls on limitations of a
young quarterback. They still haven't figured out how to use him.

(01:16:54):
He still hasn't figured out how to truly play quarterback
and be creative. Then they just want to keep it simple. Stupid, right,
k I s s because of his lack of wherewithal
lack of experience and maybe lack of skill they have
personnelis using Dallas and maybe the biggest one is the
limitations at quarterback. That's Doug Gottlieb earlier on the heard

(01:17:17):
talking about Dak Prescott, the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. I would
say this about Dak Prescott. I don't want to sit
on the fence, but I'm going to. I have no
idea if he's good or not. I really don't look
for the For the fact of the matter of this
from last year, the running game was so dominant that
he was able to excel because of how great their
running game was and in opportunities where they needed to

(01:17:39):
move the ball through the year they were going to
they were limited with their running game this time around,
and now it seemed to put it maybe in an
inordinate amount of stuff on Dak's shoulders where they didn't
come through in the passing game. I think he's somewhere
in the middle of what we saw last year and
what we saw this year. I just don't know on
which way we lean with Dak Prescott and how good
of a quarterback he can be. Personally just watching him

(01:18:01):
play and and and his demeanor as control of of
of the the actual game and the plays, I think
he's a good quarterback. I think his trajectory is heading up. Um.
I'm willing to It's not going out on a limb,
but I'm willing to say that he's a good quarterback
because he has some intangibles, uh being a young quarterback,

(01:18:24):
and although they had a superior running game last year. UH,
he was able to deal with certain issues that Briant issue,
and all of those things are are are difficult expect
for any quarterback, especially for a young quarterback to deal with,
and he handled him the right way. Even this year
with the Dez Bryant situation. I wish we had the

(01:18:46):
sound of him talking about, you know, Dad's dropping the balls,
and he said, well, maybe I just have to put
it right on his face masks, so he doesn't, you know,
drop the ball right, you see what I'm saying. So
just being able to do that and then go out
on the field and with him on the field, he
gives you a better chance to win. So, yeah, how

(01:19:10):
could he not be good? And I don't know. Ezekiel
Elliott is a tremendous talent. He takes all the prey.
He would take the pressure off any quarterback. But I
think we've seen a large enough sample size of Dak
Prescott the last you know, two years for you to say, Okay,
this kid he has something. He it's it's tangible. He

(01:19:30):
is good and he can get better, I think in
this day and age, and this has been my for
one of the one of the stands that I've taken
this year. He from I don't think you need a
franchise quarterback to win in the NFL, and I think
that there's enough evidence to win a super Bowl in
the National Football League. I think there's enough evidence to
show that is the case. I think Dak Prescott, there's
no question that we saw last year and even this year,

(01:19:52):
this is a team that could finish nine and seven,
that just wouldn't have a good enough record to make
it into the playoffs this year. That he's a good
enough quarter act to get them to the playoffs, and
I think that he's a good enough quarterback to win
them Super Bowls. I am very curious to see on
what they want to put around him because of of
the guys that we have talked about and the guys
on the outside, and you hear so much, they need

(01:20:13):
to add a true threat or a real threat opposite
des Bryant. I think they need to find a new
number one guy in Dallas that that is a wide
receiver that gives you different options. Cole Beasley and Jason
went and the same thing with them. They're not guys
to take the lid off the top of the defense
that you know to have speed. Noah Brown, a guy
that we've seen get some action, is not that type

(01:20:33):
of guy for Dallas. That's what I'm interested to see
with Dallas, to see if if you've got a couple
of guys that can fly down the field and and
Deck's got enough arm strength to do so I think
that changes things as well, and then also opens things
up more for the running game because you're not to
worry because Jason Witten is just eight yards off the
line of scrimmage. If you're a defense, don't have to
worry about him. You don't have to worry about Dez

(01:20:54):
flying down the field. He doesn't do that anymore. Those
are the changes that I think Dallas needs to make,
and that's why then the jury to me is still
out on deck. You're a simple fact of if you
had more speed on the outside, then we could really
see on how strong that af Like you say, you
don't need a franchise quarterback to win a Super Bowl.
But if you don't, you need a good one, and

(01:21:14):
you need all the other pieces. Yes, yes, and that's
the key, and and that running game is enough of
a piece to at least take them far easy from salam,
I'm dan buyer. There's another game being played tonight in
Jerry's world. What to watch for in that Cotton Bowl
matchup next. FS are glad to have you with us
as we dive into even more Bowl games. It's been

(01:21:35):
back and forth and then some. In the Bulk Bowl,
Wake Forest is at it again. Texas A and M.
Looks like they'll have the ball last to be able
to try to score as the Demon Deacons are in
the end zone to take a two point lead with
an extra point coming up. You've got a big tennes
SEC showdown in the Music City Bowl, and then the
A C. C and Pact twelve going at it in

(01:21:56):
the Sun Bowl NC States. As you heard about eighteen
hundred in eight points or six right now, but it
could be seven, could be seven in a little bit
with the bulketball going on. Goodness, but this isn't isn't
Is this too much offense for an offensive lineman, even
as fifty five to fifty two too many points in

(01:22:19):
a football game? No, I mean, as an offensive lineman,
you want to be have a dominant offense like that.
You want to be able to put points up on
the board. The only problem is you don't want the
other team to be able to do that as well.
That's an inche but usually if you're scoring fifty five,
you did usually give up a few on the other end. Yeah,
because just going way too fast and the offense that

(01:22:41):
defense just doesn't have time to rest. We were like that.
I think my junior year in college, we had one
of the top five offenses in the nation and our
defense just we would are or average scoring drive was
about men in fifty seconds. The defense has gotta go
right back out there. We would score multiple times on
one and play drives and then the defense would just

(01:23:02):
have to go back out there and grind it out.
It's it's the give and take of of And you
see this with the success in the NFL when and
I'll just use the Seahawks for a perfect example, when
their defense only had to be on the field for
twenty five minutes a game. Oh, it was. It was amazing.
They were always at a high level because their offense
in the running game at Marshawn Lynch, could keep things going.

(01:23:23):
And it's not enough that. The thing with the Seahawks
is it used to be you would think that, man,
why isn't that offense doing more. It's no, They're fine
as long as they just take up time on the
clock to allow the defense to at least get some
sort of a breather and not three and ounce and
three and ounce after three and ounce. That's what can
wear down a defense. We've seen it in this game.

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We saw it in the Super Bowl as well. Right
when you when you're defense has to play a hunt
plays in one game, just no shot. Yeah, they had
nothing left at the end. They're up ten in the
fourth quarter, but no thing left at all. No pass
rush couldn't cover. It's just too much to ask one

(01:24:05):
side of the ball. We mentioned we were talking about
the Dallas Cowboys and we had Dougs take because he
was filling in for the Herd today here on Fox
Sports Radio and Fox Sports One about Dak Prescott and
Sean tweets in saying Dak the second half of the
season as a rating quarterback rating of nineties seven when
Tyrone Smith's in the game and in the fifties without him.

(01:24:25):
Offensive line is definitely a factor, especially when you lose
an all pro left tackle. That's also going to be
a big deal. And if you're not hearing those footsteps
like he was hearing against the Atlanta Falcons, maybe you
throw with a little bit more confidence. But realistically, as
a whole, if you hope that offensive line is intact,
you just need pieces on the outside that could maybe
stretch that defense so they're not putting seven or putting

(01:24:46):
eight in the box. Well, yeah, that's just basically, the
more time you have to throw, the more options you
have to throw too. You can't you know, you can't
cover forever. So no matter how good your your your
back half is defensively, if you can't get any pressure
on the quarterback, then someone's gonna come open, and vice versa.

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If you don't have time as a quarterback back there,
if you're missing your all pro left tackle uh plays,
you know, which is the most important position on the
line in my opinion, not not just because I played
a bunch of years there, but uh but it's true.
I mean it's it's true true. And so once you
don't have that, then yeah, things your your clock, it's

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a little faster, right, you don't can't take that that
last uh step on your fifth step, drop and pat
the ball and go from you know, your first option
to second back to the first hope first that option
can let me check it down. That's accelerated. So now's
your first option. Check it down right now? You know,
and and it and it in it. It affects the
rhythm of your passing game. It affects the type of

(01:25:51):
players you can call. So once things like that, once
that those guys up front. Once you start missing some
of those pieces, and then it's difficult to continue to
have the type of success. And people just think, oh,
you just put the backup in and you know, give
him some help over there. But that changes the dynamic
of the offense and what you do best offensively. What
is the least important position there's on what on a

(01:26:12):
football team? Probably the not kicker, snapper, long snapper. Let's
take that. Let's take the special teams out of the
two least important. I'll tell your mind, and you can
shoot it down. I think it's corner. Oh okay, I
can't do that, all right. It's only two players on

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either side of the ball that live on an island.
That's an offensive tackle in a defensive corner. And when
I say an island, I mean you're out there by yourself. Yes,
I completely understand that. But if you don't get a
pass rush, it doesn't matter how good you are. Yeah,

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but a great corner can make up for a lack
of a great pass rush, you know what I'm saying.
Like that that can happen. A great quarterback can make
up for the lack of a great offensive line. But
they can only do it for so long, right, I
mean you can only hold on. You can only cover
for so long. Well, your one is you can also
get help from a safety, right you can. It depends.

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It depends on what type of defense you're playing. Now,
if you playing a man to man defense, single high safety,
you're by yourself. You know, that's Dion Sanders territory. That's
uh the Roe Reever's sterahtory. That's Namdi Asomwat territory. Where
they don't even you don't even worry about what's going
on over here. I'm taking your best player offensively, and
I'm taking them completely out. Dion Stands didn't even come

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in the huddle. She didn't even huddle. He didn't need it.
Even he wasn't even in the defensive huddle. He was
over there on his own and doing his own things,
and people over there dancing and taking a knee and
doing all kinds of craziness because the greatness of being
a one on one island cover corner. Okay, then I
would say that second, the next runner up, and what

(01:28:03):
I thought would be the least impartant would be guard. Okay,
you can get away with because the guard can have
help right, and you can always slide your center right,
You can slide the line. You can get away with
not having the greatest guard. You can you can run,

(01:28:24):
you know you can. You can put that person in
the position what his job isn't as difficult as one
might think. You know what I mean, But it's hard
to hide a tackle. It's hard to hide a tackle.
I mean, it really is the defensive design to free
up their best pass rusher on the weak link of

(01:28:47):
the offensive line. That's just what they You You bring
a hum a linebacker in the gap between the guard
and the center, in the V gap, and then you
I mean the guarden a tackle and you take that
guard away from helping that tackle. On the pass rush,
you can chip with the back, but then now you
don't have a checkdown. You can bump with the tight end.
Now the timing is off. So I'm not saying that

(01:29:10):
it's it's pointless. I get it. But I agree with you.
I agree with you. I can see where you can
get away with a struggling guard, struggling tackle. Not so
much the acts that Justice kid who play for Philly
gave up seven sacks or something one. I mean, I
was like I felt bad for him. People kept saying

(01:29:32):
help him, Well, not much you can do. You can
chip over there, but a chip only last for a second.
And if you look at like the other parts of
the offensive line or defensive line, whether it be a center,
like defensive front, I think there's it's so important. But realistically,
when it comes down to it, the three most important
positions left tackle, defensive end, quarterback. Yes, that's it. Yeah,

(01:29:56):
we agree on that absolutely. And that's why usually your
money for this, yeah, and that's why I usually see
those being taken atop the draft. Sam Donald is a quarterback.
He could be taking the top of the NFL draft
come this spring, but he's got other business to deal
with tonight as his USC Trojans take on Ohio State
in the Cotton Bowl. Earlier on the program, here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show, Ephram and myself, we're joined by

(01:30:18):
Petro's Papadakis, Fox Sports, one college football analyst fame and
also a M five seventy l A Sports in Los Angeles,
where he hosts his weekday talk show. Petro's talked about
Sam Donald tonight, what we expect to see from the
possible first overall, pick what I want to see as
USC to play well enough to have the ball in
Donald's hands down the stretch, then that's gonna be a

(01:30:41):
hell of a watch. That's gonna be fun to see.
Ohio State is gonna be the toughest game SC has
had all year. Their structurally the best team top to
bottoms E space this year. But if Donald with Donald,
SC has a chance. Obviously J T. Barrett's a good
tenured player, but is way more talented, so much fun

(01:31:03):
to watch. I'm interested to see on how Ohio State
could try to get after Donald their front for some
of the best in the country, and to see if
he's rattled tonight. Ohio State does have some Denzel Ward's
a great corner, but there are some spots where you
can definitely attack that secondary. We've seen it throughout the season,
whether it be from their opening game against Indiana or
against Iowa or even Baker Mayfield taking advantage. We'll see

(01:31:26):
if Sam Donald can do so tonight against the buck Eyes.
Let me guess who you're going for? Yeah, you know
jed for the buck Eye. Since I was about six
or seven years old, did you your outfit? Did you
have one today, Did you lay that out on your
bid in honor of the game today? Did you have
it ironed and pressed laying on the bid? If I

(01:31:47):
would have asked my wife if, if, if she would
have let me lay it out, I'm sure she would
have been fine. But I didn't want to go there.
I just kept it all right. Do you want to
get too nerdy? No? No, See, when you get married,
you never want to go get to a point where
you you exhibit some type of behavior. Your wife is like, whoa,
what's going on here? Like you don't want to get
too nerdy or too freaky or too crazy? Do you

(01:32:09):
always want to just the line I did ask, I
go hot? Does this look goes kind of sloppy? You know?
I'm like, Oh, that's okay. I'm like, it's it's It's
casual Friday here at Fox Sports Radio. Easy from Salama.
I'm Dan Buyer. It won't be anything but casual on
Sunday for some NFL teams. This is the Doug Gottlieb

(01:32:31):
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Which teams will make it
into the NFL postseason? Well, we tell you next Right
here on FS are Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports
Radio Easy from Salama, I'm dan buyer in for Doug
getting closer and closer to that Cotton Bowl show down,
and getting closer and closer to Week seventeen in the
National Football League, and by Sunday night, there's no Sunday

(01:32:53):
night primetime game. The NFL deciding to flex them and say, no,
absolutely not, we are not gonna put any of these
games on Sunday night for the simple fact that they
feel ratings could be heard and there's really no game
that they could put in that spot that would I mean,
if the Seahawks lost to the Cardinals and then the
Falcons and Panthers were playing, another team would have anything

(01:33:14):
to play for. So the NFL de setting, not the flex.
So we're gonna find out by Sunday night all of
the teams that will be in the wild card chase.
I know from earlier this week, you think that the
Panthers will beat the Falcons on Sunday. How in the
world can Atlanta win that game to clinch a playoff

(01:33:36):
worth Now, they could get in if Seattle loses to
the Cardinals, but they control their own destiny, destiny by winning. Yes,
that's all that all that's all it is. How could
the Falcons top Carolina on Sunday? Um all on Matt
ryan shoulders? Well at this point, yeah, I mean he's
the raining m v P, right, so you wanted to

(01:33:57):
be on his shoulders, And as an m v P,
if I was the m v B, I'm like, okay,
I'll take this one. Um. They can't turn the ball over, right,
Senseless turnovers has killed this team all year and that
goes back to Matt Ryan, you know exactly right. So
the fact that it's all about ball control, right, you
don't want to get into a place where you're having

(01:34:19):
to shoot out, and you know, the Carolina Panthers offense
is designed for ball control, especially now that they have
Cam Newton running the ball more. You know, they have
these plays they call for him or he'll get four yards,
he'll get six yards and get down. He'll be called quarterback,
run to get six yards, and he'll get down right
away instead of trying to get that extra yard he

(01:34:40):
would have last year to year prior taking those unnecessary hits.
So he's learned in that aspect of when to get down,
when to try for the extra yards, and that's made
him a better team, and you know with the you know,
the emergence of Christian McCaffrey and the things he's able
to do. Uh, coming out of the back field, they

(01:35:01):
specialized in time of possession, staying on target ball control.
So in order for Atlanta to have an opportunity, number one,
don't turn the ball over and number two they have
to push the tempo alright, opened it up. Julio Jones
is Julio Jones. Mohammed's a new How many games have
they both had great games? Right? That's that's the point. Right,

(01:35:23):
you got two dynamic receivers. It's either one or the
other's feata, feast or famine. So they have to be
able to spread that ball around. And Atlanta is a
tremendous screen us a screen runner like those back fields.
Coleman and Freeman out of the backfield on those screens
are dynamic. They made huge, huge plays last year with
those guys out of the back field. So they gotta

(01:35:44):
get back to doing some of that stuff. And that
also goes to Steve Sarkesian is a new offensive coordinator
something maybe these aren't the things that he likes to do,
so they have to break free of that and really
open up that offense and really attack Carolina the way
that the Panthers have used Christian McCaffrey. And it was
so the norm in the mid nine years of mid

(01:36:05):
to late nineties when Mike hohen Gren was in Green
Bay and you use that Bill Walsh West Coast offense
for short passes where they're running games. But truly with Carolina,
it's been the runs you talk about with cam Or
it's been the five and six year passes to Christian McCaffrey.
Jonathan Stewart had had a great game against the Vikings,
and other than that, maybe it's been lacking with that

(01:36:27):
running game, and so they've at least been creative in
being able to move the ball that way. I think
it's going to be so unique because you could see
and I'm going to be negative about this, and I
don't mean to be, but you are going to see
if the Falcons employed before our eyes again. You're gonna
see if it's gonna be twenty three because it's all
there for them against the division rival, but it's going

(01:36:48):
to be in their home stadium, and it's going to
be exactly what you said. It's on Matt Ryan's shoulders,
so you will get to watch for three hours. If
the Atlanta Falcons truly we're able to escape from the
enormous hangover of Super Bowl fifty one, or if this
is just going to be same old Falcons. Yeah, they're
a little drunk right now, so they gotta song. The
only way they can sober up is to win that game,

(01:37:11):
get themselves in the postseason, and then it's a it's
a new season, it's new life. How was that fan
base when you were playing there, because it seems they're
indifferent when they're okay, but then when they're winning, you'll see,
like they did last year, they had good showings of
the in the postseason when they were hosting Green Bay.
Most people aren't from Atlanta. You know, Atlanta is a

(01:37:33):
place where you moved to. So what happens is you
have a bunch of people who have, you know, loyalty
and love the teams that wherever they came from, wherever
they moved from, they still have loyalty for those teams.
So things have to be going really good in Atlanta
for that place to get rocking and sell out. And

(01:37:55):
you know, I know firsthand. We were on a president
run in and it took it was the end of
the season four to be krunk. They would say uh
in the in the arena down there. The the a
s C playoff picture is a little bit different than

(01:38:16):
what we've got in the NFC. The NFC, there's some
jockeying for position. The NFC South actually winner has not
been decided. The Saints still have an opportunity right in
front of them. If they were able to UH to
take out the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then they're gonna win
the NFC South. But that means that the Panthers, that
have something to play for in the a f C
home field advantage still on the line. Patriots with a

(01:38:37):
victory over the Jets would clinch that or Pittsburgh losing
to the Cleveland Browns. I'm just gonna say, I don't
think it happens. I don't think that the Steelers fall
short against Cleveland on Sunday. So that wraps up ohen
sixteen for the Browns, and that means that the Patriots
need to win to have home field. But it's the
wild card as how things play out that's really really
intriguing because as it stands, Tennessee can clinch a playoff

(01:39:00):
berth with a victory. The Ravens can clinch a playoff
berth with a win or a tie over the Cincinnati Bengals.
Tennessee matchup against Jacksonville isn't as given as it sounds
like Doug Morone is likely to play his guy's a
majority of the time. Where do you see the two
playoff teams coming? Do you like Tennessee to beat Jacksonville?

(01:39:21):
And if Jacksonville wins that game, who do you see
sliding in? Would it be the Chargers with their game
against the Raiders where they could get in with a
Buffalo with a Baltimore win and a Tennessee lost the
Chargers good, Buffalo needs a little bit more help. But
do you like the Titans to beat the Jaguars on Sunday?
I like no. I like Jacksonville to beat the Titans.

(01:39:43):
Um because of them coming off a loss last week. Yeah,
you don't want to go into the playoffs off two losses, right, so,
especially a young team haven't been there, you know. Um
Blake Bortles got exposed a little bit, you know last week,
he's that re exposed. I'm telling you it helps when

(01:40:04):
you're playing the Texans in the Colts and the Cardinals.
I mean, it really does. It's I know, the Seahawks,
but the Seahawks aren't The weren't even close to what
they the legion of boom that they would have. Blake
Bortles had a good stretch during those teams. But San
Francisco has improved defensively and it showed last week. Yeah,
and you know, it's as crazy as it seems. I

(01:40:24):
don't think Tennessee pulls it off. So that opens the
door up for the Chargers. UM and I like the Charges.
They got a lot of work to do. They have
to win. Tennessee has to lose, and Buffalo has to lose. UM,
but that's possible. I already think Tennessee's gonna lose. And
he got Buffalo going up against Miami. UM, and I

(01:40:45):
just that screams to me of Buffalo, like like anything, yeah,
like of of if there could be anything more Buffalo Bills.
It's having a shot just like they did. I mean,
when you have an opportunity, I was, I was at
a for scenario in my head. But when you have
an opportunity where you need some help but you still
have to take care of your own business. I think

(01:41:06):
like it just screams of the Bills throwing a stinker
up in in Miami and losing to the Dogs. Yeah,
I think so. And you know, we gotta face it
there in Miami's some of those guys, Buffalo Bills, they
just stay down there after the game, the U haul
peg baby. Did they skip the team playing and say,
I'm gonna drive from buff from Buffalo, I'm gonna hang

(01:41:27):
out here, go down, uh live and just just hang out,
you know, South Beach weather. It's nice out here, it's
snowing in Buffalo. We didn't get in shucks, you know.
So as as far fetched as it seems, I think
the Chargers, the way they've been playing, the belief that

(01:41:48):
they have in themselves, Philip Rivers in Nolan, I mean,
it's been tremendous this uh after starting going four. So
they're hot right now, even though they fall to the
little bit. So I think they win, Tennessee loses and
Buffalo lose and the Charges get in the Chargers, I feel,
and this isn't going out on the lamb. I think
a lot of people feel this that the Chargers of

(01:42:10):
the team, that nobody of the higher seeds wants to
face in the air. No, no, no, no, no no.
I would say Buffalo would be excuse me, Baltimore of
the of the possible wild card teams would be second.
I don't think people want to face that defense or
running game because they have quarterbacks. Right you think Baltimore,
You see Baltimore and and the Charges have quarterback. That's it, Tennessee.

(01:42:30):
We we don't know who Mariota is going to be.
Uh you look at Buffalo, Tyrod Taylor isn't scare anybody.
Joe Flack or at least just done it before. He's
a super Bowl winning quarterback. So and he's just playoff
record is tremendous. So you really don't want to, you know,
see Baltimore in the playoffs. Uh so, I I think

(01:42:51):
those that, like you said, both Baltimore and and and
the Charges are the two teams people don't want to
see because they have ability to pass the ball. They
have you know, dynamic quarterbacks put up a bunch of yards.
But the other teams they don't. They don't have people
you would be scared of. He's he from Salam. I'm
Dan Buyer, So I'm just taking right now you don't

(01:43:12):
like the Falcons twin you like the Seahawks to maybe
slide in with the win over the Cardinals and the
team that nobody wants to face in the a f C,
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(01:43:33):
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us in on the latest of what's happening on a
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Touch down quick for us, I think gets back on

(01:43:53):
top of two eight team to go. It's fifty fifty
two on the tiber touchdown of the north end. That
was the last of the scoring. Believe it or not.
Wave Force wins at fifty five to fifty two over
Texas and m Now there's a couple of games going
on right now in North Carolina State leading Arizona State
at the half to ten. That ballgame is the Sun Bowl,

(01:44:14):
kentuckularly in Northwestern seven and three in the Music City Bowl.
But there's a time out for an injury as Northwestern
got cute round a double pass with their quarterback and
now his knee buckled, So he's getting carted off the
field right now with about fourteen twenty three to play
in the first half. Later on tonight, you'll get usc
in the Cotton Bowl against Ohio State. Switching on over
quickly to the National Football League, Packers have signed wide

(01:44:36):
receiver Davante Adams to a four year extension fifty eight
point seven five million dollars eighteen million dollars signing bonus,
and he's getting thirty two million dollars in the first
couple of years of that deal. Rick stratasy Port and
that dirt cutter's job is safe for at least one
more season, as the Glazer family told him today that
he will be the head coach to the Buccaneers in eighteen.

(01:45:00):
Dirk is back. He's a cutter above the rest like that,
like that one, huh it was? It wasn't that great.
I'm dan Bler. I thought it was. I thought it
was at least were you trying to reach for the
word for the show for the day? Was that supposed
to be the word for the bobo? If you worked

(01:45:21):
with me enough, you know that I can pun things
up quite a bit, done it for years, and so
I just figured I would just do a little Dirk
Cutter above the rest because he's gonna be back. Heck,
we did a segment that John Griden was going to
take over the Buccaneers and thenutes later Cutter's back. Don't
believe it though, I still don't believe it. We'll see.

(01:45:41):
It's crazier things could have happened. But if John Gridden
was reportedly assembling a staff as well, and that the
return seemed to be almost imminent, then that just turned out. Man,
just be lies. The The fact is that for six
million dollars a year, maybe the Monday night football booth

(01:46:03):
is a better place to be. I told you, if
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(01:46:25):
on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio and for Colin Cowherd.
But just because Doug is gone doesn't mean that the
picks disappear. As it is time for our five for
five here on Fox Sports Radio. We got him five,
NFL five, College five. It's five for five with Doug

(01:46:46):
Gottlian Let's go five. Okay, you guys make fun of
my hand signals. No one knows what they mean. Obviously
Bobbo doesn't because I was pointing for the sound here
and there was no You keep queueing the sound musself. Okay,
you say you wanted to pick the name of this
is five for five, So when you go, I want

(01:47:07):
the picks and five for five is that's two different things. Alright, alright,
man handsome, that's all you gotta do. Rob says, get
ready for this. Just play it. That's it's all good.
It's all good. Just I'll lay under the bus for
you guys to drive back and forth every time you
pointed me a we'll play something every single time. I

(01:47:28):
like that. Maybe I'll even do a little of give
you a little curly queue or something like it. Alright,
that's the funny. Doug It likes to pick five college
football games and five NFL games each Friday. We are
going to do nothing different from we start out with
tonight's Cotton Bowl. You'll get the first crack. As Ohio

(01:47:49):
State is a four and a half point favorites against
USC playing at Jerry's World in Arlington, Texas, I'm going
with SC SC. I'm going just just straight up win
or just cover that four and interesting. Interesting. I think
Ohio State could look at this game as a possible
let down for not being put into the College Football Playoff.

(01:48:11):
USC was left out last year. They showed no ill
effects in their comeback victory against Penn State and which
was a classic. So from likes USC over Ohio State
in the Cotton Bowl, I am going to take the
Orange Bowl as Wisconsin is a four and a half
point favorite against Miami. Miami's playing in their home stadium,

(01:48:32):
and while there may be even more Badger fans there,
I still think the surroundings allow the Hurricanes plus four
and a half to be the pick in the Orange
Bowl tomorrow night. There's another New Year's six game tomorrow
and it involves the Washington Huskies. Is a two point
underdog to Penn State as they play in the Fiesta

(01:48:52):
Bowl in Glendale, Arizona. He from that is all yours,
Lincoln can of the long time. You know what I'm
going with you, I'm going. I'm going with the Tools
six the long time hosting on Fox Sports Radio is
next door College Football Hall of Famer Washington Window Big.

(01:49:19):
I still we played the same position. He's I could
fit in his pocket. I was I was going to
in the order of games, to be honest, guys, I
was picking the Fiesta Bowl, but I kind of was
leaning towards the Big Ten school So from I'll pass.
Just like the Rose Bowl coming up on Monday, Georgia

(01:49:40):
taking on Oklahoma. Georgia is a two and a half
point favorite over the Sooners. I know Baker Mayfield in Oklahoma,
Baker Mayfield has been under the weather. I know they've
been on a great run, but I just don't think
that they have seen a true defense like you're going
to get at Georgia, and I don't think you're they
have seen a running game. I like the Dogs to

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win over Oklahoma by more than two and a half.
On Monday Sugar Bowl Monday Night National Championship rematch, Alabama
takes on Clemson in New Orleans. Alabama is a three
point favorite from who do you like in that show?
Bro Todd is simple as that getting revenge. Those took

(01:50:26):
a miraculous Deshaun Watson to upset them last year and
they don't have him. And Alabama is upset because they
barely squeaked in. Maybe shouldn't be in there, but they're
in there, so they're gonna approve a point. USC Washington, Miami, Georgia,
and Alabama art picks for the Big College Football Weekend.

(01:50:48):
Let's move on to the National Football League. I took
the games that matter, and I know that you have
already picked this game. The Atlanta Falcons are home to
the Carolina Panthers. The Falcons are at three and a
half point favorites in a game, by the way, that
does mean something to Carolina because they could still win
the NFC South and there is a crazy scenario where

(01:51:09):
the Panthers actually could still get a first round by
a three and a half point favorite for the A
lot of Falcons. There is no way that they make
it this easy, even if they win. I am with
I from I am taking the Panthers in this showdown.
On Sunday, Chargers are home to the Raiders in Los Angeles.
Bolts are a seven point favorite needing some help to
get into the postseason. Who do you like between Oakland

(01:51:31):
and l A? I got the Los Angeles Super Chargers.
Could this get ugly with some of the and the stands.
It'll get up and it'll definitely, I mean it'll be
fans there. That's that's true Charger fans. Come on, There'll
be about a couple of thousands of those. They'll they'll

(01:51:52):
bolts up. You're like, no, no, that's like walking into
the wolves Den the l A Superchargers. It just doesn't
sound right, but it's it's gonna have to go seven
point favorites. Ethan says, bolts up. On Sunday, Ravens home
to the Cincinnati Bengals. I know when the Ravens running

(01:52:12):
game gets going that it can be very, very tough
to stop. I'm not sure what the Bengals are playing for,
but a nine and a half number is very big.
I'm gonna take Cincinnati, not to win outright, but to
at least cover that nine and a half. And by
the way, I from told me this earlier this week,
there are some guys who are have got their U
haul has already packed. So we didn't even take any

(01:52:34):
meaningless games because you have no idea on how those
things are coming away. You don't know who going to
the Bahamas on Monday. You just don't know if is
it a bad side of players are instagramming on Sunday
nights that they're already at their vacation spot airport the
first class. But Tahiti here we come. I got the

(01:52:56):
Bengals at least covering that nine and a half against Baltimore.
On Sunday, Bills are on the road in Miami to
face the Dolphins Buffalo with a lot to play for
but need some help. And the Bills are two and
a half point favorites against the Finns. I got Miami
and Miami, Uh, Bills need a lot to get in.
I think uh, some of those guys will be hard

(01:53:16):
pressed to get on the flight back from Miami to Buffalo.
So Miami would win and at least six or seven
guys staying after the loss Buffalo. The flight back will
have a lot of open seats and we open will
be extra lunches where where you want, Like, wow, we've

(01:53:39):
got a lot of sandwiches. Still you want still on
the flight Final get a whole role to youself. Final
game that we are going to pick you heard from,
says not a believer in the Tennessee Titans. He likes Jacksonville.
Titans are three point favorites against the Jaguars coming up
on Sunday. The game is in Nashville, Tennessee. Is a
lot to play for. Temperature, It could be about twenty

(01:53:59):
seven been at kickoff in Nashville. Should be a chilly
day enough to cool off those Tennessee Titans. I'm with you.
I like the Jaguars to at least cover that or
at least getting three points in that matchup with Tennessee.
If the Titans somehow miraculously win that game, they're gonna
do it by the hair of their chinny chin chins.
There awome there, It is five NFL. Let's go college

(01:54:25):
five for five with Doug gottli It is the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. We wrap up the
week next, why don't we get everybody involved, Bobo, we'll
get robbing. David Gascon's gonna give us the latest that
sound good. Easy from Salam. I'm Dan Buyer. That's coming
up next year on Fox Sports Radio, The Duck Got

(01:54:46):
Leave Show on Fox Sports Radio. Easy from Salam, I'm
Dan Buyer. We wrap up our week here as we
watch a replay of last night's Rockets Celtics game. And
for those of you that saw it last night, I
just want to let you know where about eleven se
gets away from a couple of the worst calls that
you'll see. I'm just I'm just want to fill people
in that it's not a couple of the worst calls.

(01:55:08):
It's a couple of the the worst timing to be stupid.
And that's a bad word in my house because I
have kids. But that's the worst time to be stupid
as a as a big time uh m VP candidate player,
and in terms of James Harden, he decided he wanted
to uh flex his muscles, so to speak, at the

(01:55:31):
wrong time and not taking account of the situation and
the position at will put his team in. We know
that Bobar Technical Producer sides with you that they were not.
It's just no, we are on different sides because it
should be called in certain situations where they have no

(01:55:51):
business being called. And that's where that's where someone you
call the food. I know that it's not the same
at the end as it is at the beginning. I
mean I said that the foul against Lebron James should
have been called. What I mean, if it's if it happens,
it happens. One was three feet from the basket, another
one was eighty three ft from the basket. Does it

(01:56:14):
really matter when it is like, Okay, so someone shack
is running down the court and he's not the plast
half court and you grab him in found and they
shouldn't call that. Well that's a different Now that's different.
Well it's different, a different fifty feet away from the basket,
but that's a different one. It's a different situation. There's
there's nothing that was going to be gained except the

(01:56:34):
ball being put in bounds. Tony Brothers just said I'll
decide this one. Might he didn't. He said, I'm saying
offensive foul on James Harden. He should have just announced
Celtics with what he wouldn't have those offensive fouls, then
that would have been a whole another story, like he
made the right calls because they were offensive fouls. If
he chose to ignore those calls on the heels of

(01:56:57):
the ref ignoring the Lebron James uh Kevin Durant calls,
Now we've got a situation on our hands. Would you
agree with that? Well? If all right, I actually Lebron
James gets away with enough calls, James Harden gets away
with more calls than anybody in the NBA period, offensively, defensively,
hands down, it's no argument there. He would even agree

(01:57:21):
with that. You guys like to call him the ultimate flopper.
You and Bobo? Rob does Mady are executive producer? Who
side are you on? And all of this? You gotta
call a foul? All right, it's a foul. It's just
because James Harry doesn't mean anything to me. All right, Rob,
thanks for making it and not tied up at two
and two. And then I was gonna bring in David
Gascon as the lead of the final vote, but Rob

(01:57:42):
ruined it for us. Let's do the press. Let's do
the press. Bobo, my hand gesture I gave you us.
I gave you a curly queue. This is what was
gonna happen to it was it was gonna be too
too because Rob was gonna side with me, and then
you're gonna be the voice of reason and announced who
you sided. Within the end, I was just filling up
the bus so we can run you over back. Oh

(01:58:04):
don't worry, You're gonna have to stand. Everybody's loading on
that thing, all right, gentlemen. Well I love what he
from says from the best help me, gentlemen. We've taught
at great length throughout the week about different bowls. I'm
gonna give you into a extracurricular bowl starting in January

(01:58:28):
down in the wonderful city of Long Beach here in California,
Jack in the Box is gonna do something pretty nice.
They're gonna introduce the world to marry munchy meals. So
that's right. For four dollars and twenty cents, this is
what you get. Three chicken strips, two tacos, five mate turos,

(01:58:48):
French fries on your rings, and a small drink that
coincides with one and it all fits in. So the
chief marketing officer for Jack in the Box tells Bloomberg quote,
we are all about welcoming all of our guests, no
matter what they're craving or why they are craving it.

(01:59:09):
Oh yeah, because you know you can go ahead and
get yourself a little something starting in January. Let's get
yourself a little something. Maybe that's the new bowl played
in Longbea. It's still got as good as the Fun
City Bowl. The Fun City Bowl is where it's at.
Would you guys? I mean, would you? I mean, if

(01:59:30):
it's in the same oil, that would be the worst
thing in the world. But that it doesn't, that doesn't
appeal to me. Bobo, Rob, are you guys down with
that Jack in the Box menu? I'm incredibly down. Bobo's
first in line Star Wars. No, no, I'm here for
the Jack in the Box. I just need those tacos.
What is the Mary Mini munchies? The merry muncheap meals,

(01:59:53):
the Merry Munchy meals. Yea. In each of the in
each of the automs of actually has a sticker on
it with the Snoop Dogg's brand, his his leaf symbol,
So that'll be on the wrapping of like whatever you
you order on the strips Tacos whatever. They're competing with
Karl Jr. For their five dollar box and they're winning well.

(02:00:16):
And now another place to just go and they stay
open twenty four hours a day too, so that helps.
I mean, I look, Jack and Box got me through
a lot. They got me through a lot of college days.
I can tell you that. Boy, I'm gonna open up
a new chain of restaurant. It's called Dan under the Bus.
So you guys, if you guys want to be partners,

(02:00:37):
since you're all for it, when you want to get
from under the bus and get on the bus, then
you're welcome. But the Shenanigans and don't be talking about
we ran and new and you just up here spewing nonsense. Yeah,
that's nonsensical. Come on, Dan, you are a cut don't guys.

(02:00:58):
Will stick with the foot bull League, as we've talked about,
a good length dirt cutter. Were Man the head coach
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He got word today from the
Glazer family, as Rick Stroud has reported that earlier on today,
So he'll remain the coach in at least for the
start team. Right now. Four and eleven still don't believe
it we'll see Monday. Things happened, man, I'm telling you

(02:01:19):
it's that is gonna stick around with black Monday. I
think it's good to be fierce for coaches this time around.
Hey there, you holds a peck too. Yeah, there are
there are guys. One last story, Davante Adam getting an
extension from the Packers four years, just under fifty nine
million dollars. He gets eighteen million dollars just to put
his name to a paper. That's a big deal for

(02:01:41):
the Packers. There were some questions about it if you
would leave what you do with that receiving corps. But
now that he's gonna stick around, another target for Aaron Rodgers,
show me the money. I like black people. Thanks Dave.
We appreciate it, so do I. It's the Dug gott
Leap Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's from salam I'm damn.
It's been a great week. Love you guys, I love you.

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