The End of The Patriots?

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minutes up the road. It was raining this morning and
sunny now, and it's gonna rain later. That's because it's Oregon. Um,
nobody really cares about that today. What everyone cares about is,
I guess two sides. One the Patriot story at ESPN
dot com UH dropped late last night, and UH the
the details of the soon to be finalized contract between

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John Gruden and the Oakland Raiders for what is rumored
to be one hundred million dollars one hundred billion dollars,
no million million dollars. Dr evil doctor, you know one
it would be great though, is if, uh, even if

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Gruden shows up to the press conference in one of
those old white jumpsuits that the late out Davis used
to wear, That'd be amazing, That'd be amazing. Um. I
do think it's like the the entire Gruden thing has
gotten hilarious from how people react to it, But I
think there could also be some sort of correlation there. Look,

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I read in its entirety, I read the the Seth
Seth wicker shampiece, and either he takes a ton of
poetic license, I mean a ton, you know, where he
just assumes things that were said to him because there
are no hard quotes in there. It's it's not that

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he's it's not that he's um, he's quoting unidentified people.
There are italics in there, which it's like, well, either
either Bill Belichick and others told him these things and
just simply didn't want to go quote just don't quote
me on it, or he took what a bunch of
people said and had his own theories and how he

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believes it went down right, and that kind of like
to take away. But I also think that that this
is like when it's almost like a text like one
of the dangers to texting something. One of the dangest
tweeting something is we don't we don't know your tone,
we don't know the intonation of your voice. We also
don't know kind of the context sometimes of where a tweet,

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like if you're to react scenary tweet, what are you reacting?
Actually too? Well, the same can be said for this
if you're taking if you're taking quotes, you know, if
Bill Belichick is bummed or is upset when he comes
out of a long meeting with Robert Kraft as to
what to do um, what to do with the quarterback position? Okay,

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but when you say mad, when you say upset, is
it I want to burn the whole thing down? Or
is it you just lost and it didn't go your way? Like?
Which is it? I think you can take things that
are legitimate from this story, and I don't have any
reason to believe that set with Wickersham made any of
this stuff up. I'm sure he has solid sources, And

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so even the idea of anonymous sources doesn't scare me
off because Deep Throat was an anonymous source and that's
what made Watergate what it was. Like. They're just certain
people who can't go on the record and tell you things,
So you've got substantial reason to believe that most of
the things are somewhere close to the truth. It's just
how you take the truth. But the only thing that

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really really matters, only things that matter, I would say,
who the who? Who is the league or who is
leaking the most? And in with that you have to
who has the most to gain by the story? And
then what does it due to the Patriots in the
short term? What does it do to the Patriots in
the long term? Right? Like short term? It feels like

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this is the type of story that galvanizes the Patriots.
That's kind of like it just happens to come out now,
right before they happen to go be playing in the
playoffs where they happen to be the number one seed
to maybe win their six championship together in seventeen years.
It feels like a galvanizing story. But is it a
story to which Belichick wanted out there because he wants
the rest of the league to know that, hey, he's

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soon to be out of here. And he looks around
the league and he sees John Gruden getting ten years,
one hundred million dollars and says billion. Right, like, if
John grew New won one, Sir bulls worth a hundred
million dollars, how much is Bill Belichick worth? But like, look,

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I hate to tell you this, but there's dysfunction, ages um, egos,
michismo in any successful corporation, on any successful team anywhere
in the world. Like this is not groundbreaking stuff. And
the three questions that that we we need, we will

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at some point, I think get answers to one we
may never get answered to, which is who is the league?
The second is what does this mean for Brady and
the Patriots? And third maybe what does it What does
it mean for the short term, doesn't mean for the
long term, because there is a certain sense that, well,

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it's really hard. This is what you know. Guy who
has been divorced always says, you know, it's really hard
for two people to live together for twenty years. You know,
guy who gets fired from a coaching job, I had
a coach tell me last year, you know, you make
a new enemy. There's a coaching saying you make a
new enemy every year. I've been here eighteen years, I
got eighteen enemies. And maybe that's the story here with

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Brady is Hey, Look, every run comes to an end,
and almost all of them and ugly. Joe Montana that
one ended ugly. Brett Farve, that one ended ugly. I mean,
think of the great quarterbacks of our lifetime. Peyton Manning
was shown the door in Indie. It may not have

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ended ugly on the surface, but you know, I guarantee it.
It was not the fact that Peyton Manning had to
leave and go to a different place at the time.
And it even had the chance of ending ugly in
Denver when he got pulled and then when Uh put
back into the starting lineup Troy Hagman, that thing only
ended ugly because it didn't end ugly because he suffered
so many concussions. He didn't make it to the end

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of his career. Same thing with with Steve Young. So
maybe this is more of the story, is that in
an effort to just stay married, just stay let's just
stay together, how Kobe Bryant like. It may not have
necessarily ended ugly for Kobe, but it brought down the
Lakers as a franchise, like let's not misremember where the

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Lakers are now? Is is very much a reflection UH
and a reaction to the fact that Kobe took too
much money and was too big a part of their
game plan and he had to have hand pick his
own coach who was not qualified to coach in the
twenty one century. Didn't one him shooting three point shots.

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So even the ones that make it the distance, like
Kobe and the Lakers, there can be a lot of
ugliness and pettiness and the franchise isn't the better because
of it. And otherwise most of these relationships all end
up fizzling out in the end um. But the the

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big what happens with Belichick in the future is he
the leak because he's the only one who you would
think stands to benefit from this. I mean, there are
just certain things in there to which you're reading, And
if you haven't read the article, you know not only
did he text Kyle Shanahan the day they decided to trade,

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but it says that he always he admired Kyle Shanahan
and Kyle's dad because Kyle's dad stood up for him
against the NFL during Spygate. Like, how would Seth wicker
Sham know that either he's conflating other stories that he's
read about that he's known about that he's talked about,
or Bill Belichick gave him that story and said, just
don't put my fingerprints on it, but his fingerprints are

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all over it. Music. You read the story, what was
your what was your big takeaway? I just think that
it's something we all knew about. We we could tell
that at some point with the Jimmy Garoppolo, the Bill Belichick,
the Robert Craft of that whole situation with Jimmy Garoppolo

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up and coming, there was going to be some type
of conflict. And now that you hear the details, you're
just like, oh, okay, and you want to make it
seem like a bigger deal than it actually is. It's
almost as if we kind of knew that something was
going on, but people think it's the end all be all,
just because they finally have words to prove it. Yeah.

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I I also would think like there's other weird parts
of the story. The fact that Garoppolo is repped by
the same guy as Tom Brady. Uh, that leads me
to believe that that Don Ye probably some of the
one of the sources kind of on on this deal. Um,
But that that that just that just weird, right, Like
they're they were offering. I mean they were offering. I
mean a lot of it explains things. Hey, look we
offered Garoppolo seventeen million a year. He didn't want an

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eighteen million dollars he he didn't want it, and so
they're like, all right, well we gotta move on from him,
and um, they chose, you know, they chose Brady. They
chose what they knew, the devil they knew versus the
devil that they thought they might know but don't know
for sure. Like there's some there's some stuff there. There's

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the Garoppolo went into TB twelve to get worked, I
get his shoulder works on, which seems odd to me,
Like all of a sudden, you get hurt and now
you're gonna go to the TB twelve workshop Like that
seems weird to me. That one feels like that came
from an agent more than came from you know, because
why would Garoppolo care? But I do think that Garoppolo

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has been so good that there had to be some
sort of explanation. How could Bill Belichick make such a
horrible trade and just give away a franchise maybe top
ten who knows, top five quarterback in years to come
in the NFL. How could he do that? Is this
Belichick going like, look, my hands were tied even then,

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it doesn't explain Lane, why you only asked for a second?
Should ask for a first? Hey man, I've seen this cat.
He's a first and a third and next year's second.
Trust me on this. It's a good deal. So the
story leaves us with answers, may or questions, maybe more
than answers. But does it derail the Patriots in the

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short term and how does it play out in the
long term? He from Salam will join us upcoming next.
He works for Fox Sports trait. He's a thirteen year
NFL that he's a former pro bowler in the National
Football League. We'll get his thoughts on on Brady and Belichick.
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All right, let's welcome in E from Salam. Of course,
thirteen years in the National Football League and the story
of the day. We'll get to Gruden and the hundred
million dollar contract he's set to receive from the Raiders.
But Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Robert Kraft, uh the love

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triangle to which seems to have some fractures in it.
E From you read the article, what's your reaction? Well,
it was bound to happen, right, So when you flick
at this this the trinity of this chief full machine
that won five Super Bowls and everything is roses up there.

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We cheek together, we win together. Well as we know,
reality isn't always Uh that's simple. So I think the
whole Jimmy Garoppolo think it really, you know, really Magni
magnified it a lot because we know for a fact
Bill Belichick didn't want to part ways with Jimmy Garoppolo.

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But uh, Craft and and it's in love with Brady
and as long as Brady wants to play, you know,
so be it. Uh And they got rid of they
got rid of Jimmy Garoppolo and so now you know
it's it's it's a division and this this holy trinity
so to speak, that we thought could never you know,

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they would go out right off into the sunset together
and that's just not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.
So to me, I'm like it was bound to happen.
It happens everywhere and every organization. Who's the Yoko who
broke this thing out? Um? I would say Yoko would
probably be Belicheck because you know Tom and in Craft

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al together Tom, Tom, Brady and Robert Kraft. They're together, right,
So they're they're gonna We're gonna keep this band together.
And Yoko's like, well, you know, I don't think so
I got other plans. Okay, So I guess um. There's
three things to me which which are interesting out of
this story. The first is short term, how do you

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think this affects the Patriots this season? Uh, it doesn't
affect them at all this season. It's one thing the Patriots.
The Patriots can do and they have been able to do,
is seize the moment. So they're focused on on doing
something right now. They're focused on winning that six super Bowl,
uh for Tom Brady. So at this point, it's late enough,

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and you gotta remember this has been brewing. It's just
coming out, but this has been brewing. This has been
going on probably for a year or so. Every every
I think, you know, the Flate Gate, just having that
all that turmoil in the organization had they had to
start asking themselves real questions, Ey, Tom Brady is gonna

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be forty and a couple of years, what's what you know?
What are we gonna do with Jimmy Garoppolo, so on
and so forth. So this has been something that has
been brewing in this organization for probably two year and
a half, two years, so it's just coming out to
the public now, and I love it. I think it's awesome. Okay, Uh,
what happens then to Belichick? Oh? The second one is,

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who do you think the leak is? Like? It feels
It feels like there's a lot of Belichick fingerprints all
over it. I can't tell whether wicker Sham is piecing
together a bunch of people who didn't want to go
on the record, or he's simply taking Bill Belichick side
of the story in Belichick wants to everybody to understand
exactly what's going on here. Well, I think it's I
think it's definitely coming from Belichick side because you gotta remember,

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it's a lot of egos involved here. It's a lot
of egos on the owner's part, Tom Brady's part, and Belock.
We know Belichick has an ego, So who who gets
the brunt of of the applause for the success that
they have? And I think that's the struggle. I think
that's where the contention lies, especially between Brady and Belichick.

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Brady is under the assumption is like wherever I would
have played whoever I would have played for. This would
have been my reality. And Belichick is like, absolutely not.
Whether they say that outwardly or not, that's just that's
what ego is. And this is the National Football League
and I've been around it, you know, more than half
of my life. And egos are serious. That's why some
offensive coordinators defensive coordinators, uh, don't work in some systems

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because and some players don't work in some systems because nobody.
Everybody has an ego and nobody wants to change. Nobody
wants to take less credit for success. Okay, so then
what happened? What? How does this affect the Patriots in
the future? You said nothing in the short term. We
think it's got Belichick's fingerprints on it. Does this mean
Belichick leaves um? Does this? Does this or does he

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find a way to get back the power that he
lost by drafting another quarterback and continue to plow ahead.
What do you think is the future of the Patriots
after reading this? Uh? They will definitely in my opinion,
I think they have the part ways all right with
this one. Like if it would have kept it in house,
maybe they could have rolled on a little bit longer.

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But all of these tough questions are coming down, so
us as the public, we're privy to all of this information.
So it's no keeping it under wraps. So we know
it's going to be a dysfunctional house no matter what's
going on on the field. We when you when you
know what someone upstairs feels about you, then it changes
your perception period completely and it will affect decision making,

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it will affect play, uh, the way you play sometimes.
And you gotta remember Tom Brady fourty years old. Okay, yeah,
he's having a great m v P type season, but
the cliff is there. He has one and a half
feet off of that cliff. We've seen some games this
year that just aren't very tom Brady asked, And it's
going to come. I don't care how good a quarterback

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has happened to every quarterback who's been all world. That
cliff is there, you just don't know when. And it's
not a slow fall. It's a as Peyton manning, how
slow that fall is? Alright, ask Brett Farve how slow
that fall is. It's not very slow at all. It's
it happens immediately and no matter mentally, you're still there.
But physically it just doesn't have the same zip, the

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same accuracy you did when you were younger. That's the
voice I eat from Salama thirteen year NFL that giving
his thoughts on the Patriots story. All right, let's go
to the Raiders. Uh, ten years, one million dollars for
John for John Gordon. Um, I hear you laughing, like, look,

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I think it's a ridiculous some of money. But I mean, look,
he's the biggest name that's out there on the market.
He's one there before. He's won in two places. It
didn't end well in Tampa Bay, but we've seen other
really good coaches. Uh it not and well other places.
Do you think this this changes the Raiders for the
better in the future. Well, I think it does and

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in the short term. So you know, John comes in,
he has a ten year deal, say he goes. You know,
the Raiders aren't known for keeping coaches around, especially lately,
no matter what type of that they have for whatever reason. Uh,
but he comes along and say three of those years
he's okay. Maybe the fourth year they do something great

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and then they spiral back down again and in year
five and six and seven they're the Raiders that we've
come to know and love presently. What do you do,
you're I mean, what do you do? I know that
this is the Raiders. They want to make a splash.
Whenever they do something, they make a splash. This is

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the Radar way. The Raider consider themselves, you know, the
other team right right, just like when you go to
the stadium, it's like there's thirty one teams in the
NFL and then there's the Radars. They don't consider themselves
in the same league as anybody else in the NFL,
any other team. So they want to do something outrageous.

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A ten year, a hundred million dollar contract. It's outrageous
for a coach that you might get tired of in
four years, because that's possible. So I get it it.
You know, it didn't have to be that extreme, right, Like,
I'm sure they overbid on themselves. It could have been
maybe a four year, fifty million dollars. You know. It

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just seems a bit aggressive, and and and then I
think they overshot a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I
guess the question is that the guy is making seven
million dollars at ESPN. You have to overpay. You gotta
overpay together in in years and length, and it's it's
a it is a lot of money, but it also
there's no salary cap on coaches. And I guess maybe
the fascinating part to me is if it this happens

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on the same day, like wait, the Belichick story comes out,
which seems to uh clear a path for him to
leave New England, and then the Gruden story and the
numbers come out, Like wait a second, how much would
Belichick be worth on the open market If that's what
good on the open market? Are we going to see
the first two million dollar coach, right? I mean, that's

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what that's the president you said. So I know Belichick
is sitting there like, wow, congratulations. He probably called them,
Hey man, John, congratulations. Uh, Le'll see you on the
open market soon. It would be no limit to what
a team will pay Belichick to to come in and
coach and look man, good for them if if they
if the owners want to drop that type of cash,

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then then so be it. I'd rather us have it
than them. Doug out the show Fox Sports Trade All right, quickly,
let me get into the games this weekend. I'm not
buying the Titans going into Kansas City getting a winner.
You no shot, no shot. The Titans have been sputtering
along in a terrible division all year. I just still
don't know what type of quarterback marks Marioty is. No

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one else does, because no one really, you know, sees
those games. But I just think Kansas City has rebounded.
They went through something dramatic this this season in terms
of falling completely off, managed to call themselves back into it,
and now I think they got themselves in a position
to where they're focused and they know exactly what they

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need to do. From Salim joining us Falcons feels like
that's a tough part for the Rams. A team got
to the Super Bowl, been through some adversity this season.
I know they're not as good outside of the Dome,
but against the really inexperienced Rams team. Uh. Thoughts of
the possibility of the Falcons pulling the road upset, I
don't think so. I'm going on on on the I'm

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gonna bet on youth. I think these young guys have
been galvanized coming from the type of season that they
had last year, which was awful. Uh, Jared Golf was
considered a bus Gurley had disappeared, and now you see
what They've been able to do this whole year. They
went out and got two receivers from Buffalo, came in
and made immediate impacts. And now that defense, they have

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the best defensive alignment in the league. And Donald Quinn
coming off the edge. I think what happens when a
young team like this has success E galvanizes them and
they don't want anyone outside of that locker room to
believe that they can get to make this um, get
this accomplished and make it to the Super Bowl. All right,

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let's go to the Sunday games kind of quickly here,
Uh Doug Gollip Show, Fox Sports Radio. The Bills taken
on the Jaguars. Uh, look, I'm not big on Blake Bortles,
but I do think there are a far better team
than Buffalo, especially if Shady McCoy is not healthy. Do
you think Buffalo can go get a road win? No,
I'm not big on him, our Tyrod Taylor, and I'll

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bet on that defense man that defense in that running
game for the for the jag Wars. Okay, and then uh,
Carolina coming off a terrible performance from Cam Newton going
into New Orleans saying so much better at home, and
Alvin Kamara is gonna join us. Feels like they're a
team that's built for the playoffs. But uh they you know,
Carolina has beat him, lost him twice. It's hard to

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beat a team three times. Can Carolina pull off the
road upset and not? I don't think so because the
fact that out of nowhere they've discovered a truly remarkable
run game to Pro Bowl running backs takes all the
pressure off through breath. And oh, by the way, if
they're down late in that game, we know Drew can
sling it out and get them back into it. That's

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from Salam. You can hear him here on Fox Sports
Radio on the weekends, of course, read his stuff on Twitter,
and uh, that guy was a stud when he played
thirteen years in the Nation Football League. He thanks so
much for joining us, giving us your thoughts, No problem, man.
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fire find out what else is going on in the
world of sports. Dan. Yeah, the stuff you touched out
with from John Gruden, gonna get a ten year, one
hundred million dollar contract, according to the NFL Network to
return to the Raiders. He'll be introduced on Tuesday. While
the Patriots issued that joint statement on that ESPN report.

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The joint statement was on behalf of Robert Kraft, at
coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady. They denied the
ESPN report that said there was tension between the three figures.
The statements of the report contained speculative theories that were
exaggerated and inaccurate. Now, as for Brady, he was named
as the Associated Press All Pro Quarterback. Today, Rams had
six players named to the All Pro first team, including

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running back Todd Gurley. The Rams six players were the
most of any team in the National Football League name
to that first team squad. Bills running back Lashawn McCoy
considered questionable for their wild card games Sunday against the
Jaguars with his ankle injury. Jaguars wide receiver Marquise Lee
list of this questionable on their injury report. Same with
Panthers wide receiver Devon Functious as they faced the Saints

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on Sunday. Bunches is expected to play in the game,
though Himan Trophy winning quarterback Lamar Jackson leaving Louisville's enter
the NFL Draft will Notre Dame running back Josh Adams
is foregoing his eligibility to enter the Springs draft, as
will USC running back Ronald Jones and Doug Gets. The
return of Alonzo Ball tonight, Lakers look to end their
eight games slide their home to the Hornets. Alonzo is

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probable to play, returning from his shoulder injury. Yeah, and
his dad's in Lithuanious. There's no pressure of Pops coming
to the game, Pops making crazy statements, right, because Pops
is Pops. On the other side of they got pictures,
a little press thing with the jerseys and even LaVar
got a jersey and number ninety nine jersey from the
Lithuanian team. Yeah, that's uh, that was That was bizarre.

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Then did you see like a female reporter asked out,
Oh no, I didn't say yeah, aparents. She asked him out. Um,
Jeff Goodman from ESPN is over there and he's tweeting
out its practice footage. It was one of the worst
looking practice I've ever seen in my entire life. Like,
there're au practice that look a lot more organized than that.
What was it? What was it? Was it just people
were just shooting around, or that they weren't the coach

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was not doing anything, or was it just running up
and down? There was no defense being played at all.
It was bizarre like that is not I played overseas
for three different three different seasons. That that is not
that was. That wasn't like what it looked like the
teams that I played on, and that was it was
kind of amazing how bad it looked. Ah, but that

(27:35):
would be probably why they why they pulled off this
move right, gets them, you know, gives them some attention.
Guess how Lamar Lamar Jackson declared for the NFL Draft.
I don't understand this one. And there's a guy who
needs a ton of seasoning, a ton of work. He's
just inaccurate. He is a freak athletically, and I guess, um, now,

(27:56):
can you draft him and make him into a really
good backup? Like how at a backup would he be?
For example, in Houston's system. If Houston decides when Deshaun
Watson comes back, that they this, this is what you do.
You get a staple, a stable of athletic run pass threats,
and you got Deshaun Watson. He's your guy. Lamar Jackson

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you take in the fourth round or whatever, and he
becomes kind of a backup. He's got to be more accurate.
But in case Deshaun Watson goes down or is taking
a beating or gets concussed, because that type of offense
leaves you, leaves you open to getting beat up. Like
I think Lamar Jackson could have a really nice career
as a backup, a change of either a change of

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pace or to provide depth for a team that decides
to go kind of college offense style, or you know,
because he has elite speed, elite speed and he does
have a good arm. He just is tiny, I mean
really tiny and inaccurate. And you tell me the guy
that's tiny, that's inaccurate, that plays in the national football

(28:59):
as a starter or has he even been a starter
and has been any good I haven't seen him. I
don't know if it exists, um, but I don't think
it's Terrell Prior control prior so much bigger. On the
other hand, there is a place on a football field
for a for a guy as talent as Lamar Jackson.
He needs just list himself. It's like you know, high
school kids sometimes list themselves as athletes, Like that's what

(29:21):
he needs to think of. I will play wherever you
want me to play. In sure, I'd like to play quarterback,
but he's got to be way, way, way way more accurate.
You can't play the position as inaccurately as he as
he has thrown the football, and he's just not refined
as a pastor, which I just question. Why have a
guy come out. I know that he started, I know

(29:42):
that he's won a Heisman Trope, and know that he's
put up numbers uh both years, both the past two years.
But that still doesn't leave me to believe that he's
seen everything, done everything. There's so much, and he's he's
with a coach who has a really good not just
offensive mind, but quarterbacks. I this is Lamar Jackson coming

(30:04):
out after throwing four picks. He was thirteen of thirty
one in their bowl game against Mississippi State. Right, Lamar
Jackson completed of his passes, which is up from a
year ago. Uh, he did throw twenty seven touchdown passes

(30:24):
and ten interceptions. He did run. I mean like look
even that Mississippi State game, he did run for a
hundred and fifty eight yards on twenty eight carries. He's
a remarkable athlete. But like, dude, you're gonna throw four
picks in your last college game and then declared and
say you want to be taken as a quarterback. Sure,
good luck with that one. Good luck with that one.

(30:47):
Don't see that one happened? All right? We got a
ton of things to get to upcoming next as we'll
get to a game. I mean like, look, there are
there is other stuff going on in you know, in
the NFL as we get ready for wild card weekend.
But the Patriots story is fascinating on so many that
it's a like just the idea that wait, Belichick would

(31:10):
give information or would help leak this story, um when
Belichick's never never let anyone from the media really in.
But that's what that is what it feels like, And
I feel like that to anybody else, man, how would
he get all this stuff unless Belichick told him? Right?

(31:34):
I can't think of any other way in which Uh,
this information was obtained buyer when you when you read
the story, and I know Daniel, all right, Dan's busy
right now, we'll get to buy her up coming next.
I don't know, um, And I guess if anything, so

(31:56):
much of the the reaction to the story doesn't really
may lead us to believe that the story is not true.
And maybe that's an US problem. Maybe that's a past
story problem. Right. There have been plenty of other stories
that have been denied which turned out to be mostly true.
And I don't think any of this stuff is far fetched, right,
There's some explanation like why would they give away Garoppolo?

(32:21):
What happened with Guerrero the trainer? Like all of this
stuff kind of is explaining there and is understandable. I
guess the question is not whether or not Bill Belichick
is mad, but is he so mad that he wants
to destroy the Patriots now? Is is the relationship so
bad that he wants to go coach elsewhere? Or is
this simply like any coaches, Hey, this is a loss,

(32:44):
but you want to overall win in the season, all right?
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(33:14):
Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I mean, like, look, if
Gruden can go back to Oakland, why why why can't
the best rap group of my lifetime get back together? Right?
That's what. Why can't Outcast release another album? Why can't
that happen? Gruten's back in Oakland? It's been about the

(33:35):
same amount of time since they had an album together.
I'm not saying anything crazy. Let's get to the private.
Let's get to a game. This is game time. Side
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. M don't boy, Doug, Dan Boy,

(33:55):
what do you have? I was gonna say, Doug before
we reveal what game we're playing. You were spot on
about that practice run they had in Lithuania. I thought
they were wearing Chino Hills jerseys. It was so bad.
The lamello was still just going from three point line
to three point line there was. Yeah, pretty sloppy. They're
spot on with that. The the game today, psychic. All right,

(34:20):
take a look into the future. So psychic, will John
Gruden coach all of the ten years out of his
contract that he is going to sign to be the
coach of the Oakland Raiders? Come on, come on, I mean,
there's one coach in the league currently that's been in
his job more than ten years. That's Bill Belichick. So
I'm gonna say so, Marvin Lewis, I'm sorry, You're right,

(34:43):
Marvin Lewis. Uh and Mike McCarthy actually get twelve as well.
So if maybe they have success. Yeah, well that was
a dumb answer out of me. I'm gonna say no, though,
I'm gonna say he does not. I think I look,
I think it will work. I think this is a

(35:05):
good higher. I think anybody thinks he's a bad higher,
it's like, really, who who could they have hired that
you would have liked better? Like, he's proven he can win,
he's coaching Super Bowl, he's seen the whole league. It's
gonna hire smart people around him. Yeah, I think it works.
Ten years of just a long time for anybody. That's
my only thing holding me back. Will it be five years? Yes,

(35:27):
more than five years? Okay, Well, psychic, it will not
be it will I mean, you know the ten year deal.
You're not getting out of that anytime? Really? Sure? Sure? Psychic?
Who leaves first in New England? Bill Belichick or Tom Brady?
Bill Belichick? Like, Look, I read I read this, and

(35:49):
I think this is Bill Belichick saying I'm gonna be
on the market after next year. You know, it's really
hard it Obviously, it's really hard for Brady to walk away.
His wife wants him to walk away. Belichick wants him
to walk away. Brady doesn't want to walk away. Brady
thinks he wants to play forever. But I think it's Look,

(36:09):
it's a chance they both go at once, but I
think Belichick it's a very strong chance that he walks
away first from the from the Patriots, not from football Psychic.
Will Lamar Jackson be a first round pick after declaring
for the draft today? No? No, he's six barely six
ft tall. If that he's inaccurate. Doesn't read defense as well?

(36:29):
Uh yeah, no, I don't see it. What about a
second round pick? We'll add that one to it. Don't
see it? Don't see it. Wow, Eisbood Trophy winner falling
in the eyes of God least. I don't only necessarily falling.
I just think it's the reality of it is nobody
there is no buzz to Lamar Jackson, right, Like, tell

(36:50):
me who the tell me who Lamar Jackson is most
like in the nash Football Like you want to say
he's Mike Vick, Like hmm okay, I mean like, it's
just really hard to be that little and that and
that he's he's a combination of two things, which is
just hard. It's hard to be little, it's hard to
be inaccurate and oh yeah, by the way, it's hard

(37:11):
to not be able to throw it from the pocket
one because you're a little the glinchas you're an accurate.
He is a weapon, a weapon that can be but
you're not going to use him in the first couple
of years. I think he's more third or fourth round pick.
You know what I think is that My guess is
what's going to happen is there's going to be a
team that probably needs a quarterback, but they're not going
to be able to get their hands on an early one.
So maybe in the second or third round that they'll

(37:31):
be like, oh, we'll take one on Lamar Jackson and
maybe not have any expectations and have a veteran in
front of him. Who let's mean, but if you look
at there's like, what six seven teams that need we
think need a quarterback, right yeah? Uh? Six seven teams
that need a quarterback, and not all of them are
going to take a rookie quarterback. So I just think

(37:51):
it's really hard to find, you know, find a find
a spot form where he's gonna play, and it's probably
it's better for him to not play right away. You
don't want him to play right away. You want him
to to hone and refine his skill if you will. Um,
But I don't think that he's blown NFL people away
at all by anything of his speed and his he
does have he has a strong arm, but accuracy is

(38:12):
paramount in this lake. Let's switch to the n B
A psychic where the Lakers stopped their eight games slide tonight,
as Alonzo Ball was expected to return from his shoulder injury.
I I think so, yes, I think they will. I
think it'll be a good game. But I think this
is a Laker team that in addition to needing in
addition to needing it. Sorry, look, it's part of what's

(38:34):
pointed out is that remember they're playing at home against
Charlotte Dune, aren't they Okay, Remember that's important because numbers wise,
they need k CP. He can't travel to road games
because he's sleeping in a detention center. Um. Additionally, when
you don't have Alonzo ball you're starting point guard, that
hurts you. But when your backup is Tyrannis, who is

(38:56):
more of a third point guard, it hurts you even worse.
So the whole thing has been screwed up. This would
be the healthiest they've been since the losing streak began.
And that's why I think they'll they'll get out of
losing nat or I would rather take a nap than
go watch Hornets Lakers tonight at Staples Center. That is
that is the truth. Uh. Finally, psychic, who will the
top three vote getters be when the final NBA All

(39:16):
Star votes are unveiled? Because yesterday, of the first round
of balloting, it wasn't Kevin Durant number one, he was three.
And it wasn't Lebron James number two. It was Jhannas
and Tenna Kompo of the Bucks, who had the most
votes of anyone so far in balloting. So in the end,
how is it going to shape out with the top three? Oh? Look,
I think jannest because he'll get the international vote. I

(39:37):
think he'll still end up with the number with as
a number one vote getter. But the more I look
at the voting, the more I realized that apparently fans
shouldn't be able to vote because Jannis and Tenna Koopo,
who's having a great year, does not belong higher on
the All Star voting charts than either of the other two.

(39:57):
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we'll continue to react to the Patriots story, but there
is foot actual football to be played, and um, the
Saints have a home game in the playoffs, and the
Saints are a running team. They're a running team who
can throw it, not a throwing team who occasionally runs
it like this is a dramatic turn of events. And
the guy who gives them the pliability, the ability to

(40:41):
run and end pass it is their rookie running back
Alvin Kamara. You can line them up anywhere in the field.
He seems to be effective. I'll get his thoughts on
refining and redefining this Saints offense. Alvin Kamara of the
New Orleans Saints. Next in the Doug Gotlip Show, One Up,
Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Things have changed in

(41:03):
New Orleans? Or have they? Look there's this sense Saints
getting ready to host a playoff game. It's been a while.
There's a sense of the Saints have changed. But have
they or have they simply found their newest edition of
Reggie Bush right like when they won the Super Bowl.
Reggie Bush may never have lived up to the touting

(41:26):
of winning a Heisman Trophy in college and how he
dominated college, but it was that you could put Reggie
Bush anywhere on a football field and he was more
than effective. You had to pay attention because he could
get the ball and take it to the house. That's
what Alvin Kamara has given them and you know, we
all saw the addition by subscribed a subtraction, and Adrian
Peterson wanted the ball, but they had two running backs

(41:49):
that were better and better fits for what they want
and fit together. And since the moment that Peterson was jettisoned,
the offense is taken off and the guy that everybody's
talking about joins us. Now on the Doug Gotlip Show,
Alvin Kamara, rookie with the New Orleans Saints getting ready
to host the Carolina Panthers in the playoff game. Alvin,
how are you No? I'm good? How are you good? Man?

(42:12):
I read a story that when you when you first
signed your contract, you get your signing botus in the NFL,
somebody asked you what you bought, and you said, I
went and bought wings, accurate or inaccurate? What kind of
what kind of wings? Lemon pepper? So nothing just just
all lemon pepper? Or do you do you work in

(42:33):
some barbecue or do you work in some some Jamaican jerk?
Anything else? Up? You're lemon pepper sort of guy, and
and the lemon the lemon is interesting because you're also
you're a warheads dude, Like, do you have a drawer
at your house that's all warheads? Oh? Airheads, That's what
I mean. I'm in airheads, the the airhead stuff. So

(42:53):
now why now do you do sour belts too, or
just simply all different kinds of air heads? Yeah? Uh huh?
Do your teeth have to be rough? Like? Do you
how many did times a daybut brush? Because that stuff
that's gonna wear it. Because I I had this thing
where I used to love to have a sower belt.
After doing a nightly radio show. Uh, this is going

(43:15):
back years ago. I went to my Dentisty's like, dude,
those things are wearing down your teeth. Have you gotten
that report from your dentist? My chief is perfectly hoping
and take care of them. Alvin Kamara joining us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh, fresh off an outstanding rookie season. Um,
what what's it been like? What's it been like for
you to to finally get the respect that I know

(43:36):
you felt like you should have gotten in college had
you not been in kind of a jumble backfield. What's
this experience been like for you? All? Right, it's been fun.
Do you know that I mean, I'm just enjoying being
where I'm at um, enjoying my teammates, enjoying a fan base,
and you know, I'm just trying to keep it going.
You know, playoffs are here, so I keep it going.
I mentioned that they use you all over the football field.

(43:58):
Uh what do you like best? Like? Do you do
you like being in motion? Do you like being in
the slot? Do you like being out wide? Do you
like like is there a spot to which you like?
When I get it here, this is when I'm at
my best. I like being all over. You know. It's
it's fun to be able to like have the ability
to to move all over the field and do different things.
So as much as I can do, I'm trying to do.

(44:18):
You know, whatever they put on on platom, I'm cool
with it. What's what's Bree has been like because this
is a year to which he's been called on less
to win it with his arm, and now of a sudden,
it's more about you, guys, more about you know, you
and Ingram this dynamic uh running back combination. What's he
been like to work with? Drew have been great? You know,
Drew Drew super cool guy. You know what I mean

(44:40):
all the time. Great you know, one of the one
of it's not the best quarterbacks in the history of
the league. So I mean just working with him has
been eye opening, a great experience, you know, learning a lot, um,
just having a lot of fun. Alvin Camarrow joining us
from the on the Dug Outlet Show here on Fox Sports.
Trade you guys get the Carolina Panthers at home. Uh,

(45:02):
there's been some great home environments for the Saints this year.
Obviously it'll be peaked. It feels like it's gonna be
better than it's the Panthers, right Like in the same division. Cam,
it's a rival back at home in the playoffs. Um.
Comparing contrast playing in Knoxville in front of a hundred
thousand plus and playing in the Superdome. What's that energy

(45:22):
like in the Dome in that places when that place
is pumping? Man, the dome is crazy, like crazy crazy
to dome like my best best like description, and playing
in the Dome is like it's a party, you know
what I'm saying. Like when when people come to the games,
I'm like, watch, this's gonna be a party in there.
Like that's how much energy is in there. It's so
it's fun to play and I love playing it. What

(45:43):
what do you remember about the Carolina defense when in
terms of I mean like, look, you guys want two
pretty close games. The Carolina defense to you, what's what's
your when you close your eyes? What do you think of? Um?
It's I mean it's active defense. You know, talented guys
all around. Um, you know, we just gotta be we
gotta be on our game. Alvin Kamara joining us on

(46:06):
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
there's an article I know that you know about out
in New Orleans. It's about you kind of finding a home,
getting the vibe of the city, feeling like you belong there.
Uh to somebody who hasn't lived in New Orleans? Um,
and your experienced, Now, what's it like? What's this experience
been like of living there? It's been It's been super

(46:28):
super dope. You know. It's a chill environment, a lot
of a lot of kind people, um, and just a
lot of a lot of cool energy. You know. I
love living out here. Are you are you go to
jaz Are you a jazz club guy? Do you go
there's a place that you go chill quietly? Do you
go to UM. Are you kind of a club club
guy or you you kind of keep yourself. I keeping myself.

(46:50):
I mean, and I go out, and I go out
every once in a while. You know, you know, I
got a few little chill spots, but they won't be
chill spots if I give them up. So I can't
give them up. I feel you, I under I completely understand.
We don't want to love your spot. That's the last
thing that we want to do. UM. Now, here's here's
the thing. You're up for this. You're up for this
video uh TV P award, right, you're up for like

(47:11):
this is a true value performer and you are. I mean,
you've won people fantasy leagues. Like have people sent you
stuff because you won them that your fantasy You won
them their fantasy league. Yeah, I'm getting letters, I'm getting
boxes of airheads, I'm getting all type of stuff. It's crazy.
Now is is did you do the airhead thing because
you want to be like your skills you want to
get a sponsorship or did you love airheads? Like going

(47:33):
back to when you're a kid, I've been I'm love
here here before you know, it's just a coincidence that
I was able to kind of like, you know, I
kind of got the platform to be able to like
just like really so much true appreciation for airheads. All right,
So the True the t v P Award, the True
Value Performer. The t v P Award recognized the player

(47:53):
who's on field performance exceeds the value of their contract. Obviously,
you can't go back in and renegoes eat your contract,
but I don't think anybody would would dispute the fact,
uh you are you are, you have achieved a level
above the that that of your pay grade Viseo dot Com,
slash tv p UM. Pretty amazing kind of turnaround for
you personally, to go from Tennessee and all the injuries

(48:17):
last season too this year and having this year, Um,
when did you know, Like when did you know I'm
gonna stick? I'm gonna be the guy that I know
I can be in the NFL. Um, you know, I'm
just it's just gradually been getting better and better. You know.
I just came in with an over mind and you know,
just wanted to be able to, you know, help the
team anyway I can. And I've been blessed to be

(48:38):
able to do a lot of do a lot of
help in this season. So I'm just like I said,
I'm just trying to keep it going. You know, we
got more games to play, more games to play. Well. Listen,
enjoy your airheads, enjoy your prep. Good luck against the
Carolina Panthers. We look forward to talking with you really soon.
Thanks Alvin, Thank you. All right. That's the tv P
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(49:25):
that he was. He was a backup for a couple
of years at Tennessee and to see him be not
just as explosive but incredibly versatile running back and it
gives Sean Payton it's kind of like a mad scientist
right then, And the value to Alvin Kamara. As it's
been explained to me and kind of in layman's terms,
it's like, look, everything in the NFL is about personnel groupings, right,

(49:47):
so if you put two running backs out there, well,
now a sudden that the personnel grouping of offense determines
what personnel grouping they want to put out their own defense.
The problem with him is like a Reggie Bush. Well,
now if you have a line backer who's normally normally
you have you know, you can go with two linebackers.
They have two running backs. Now you can't have a
linebacker cover Alvin Kamara out of the backfield. That's that's

(50:09):
a mismatch every single time. Even a safety really is
a mismatch. Now, why he's a wide receiver, you put
him in the backfield, he's a running back, you put
him in the slott he's a slot wide receiver. He's
he really is that versatile. Alright. I've spent a lot
of time discussing the New England story that ESPN dot
Com dropped yesterday and people. We've focused on Belichick, we

(50:31):
focused on Bob Kraft, We've even talked about Tom Brady.
But there really is a centerpiece to this story. It's
a centerpiece to the story, and it's I don't think
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Journal Yahoo five thirty eight. He sent me this. He says, Uh,
if the seventeen Patriots for the nineteen seventy Beatles, John
is is Tom Brady, Paul is Bill Belichick, George is
Jimmy Garoppolo, Lee Eastman is Robert Kraft, Yoko Ono is

(52:46):
uh Guerrero the Yoda Trainer, and Ringo is Grunk just
because he says, John was resentful of George at the time,
thought George didn't give him enough credit and was just
uh get was just aping him, he said. Brady feels
the same way about Jimmy Garoppolo. Mm hmm hm. I

(53:06):
don't know if I agree with that one. Look, I
think a lot of this, the timing of it comes
out because I said this two weeks ago, what a
horrible trade to trade away Jimmy Garoppolo for a second
round pick? What a terrible, terrible trade. Like Jimmy Garoppolo.

(53:28):
If you watch that guy had he's got the in factor. Right,
No article that comes out. It wasn't like the news
was the story was leaked yesterday, right. This this is
a week or two in the UG. I was getting
some information. I heard something was up a couple of weeks.
This is two or three weeks in the It takes

(53:49):
a while to get all the edits done, all to
make sure you have it just perfectly so you can't
get sued. But you got all the the sourcing ride
and everything like this is a big one. And what
happened two weeks ago? Do you guys remember remember when
the Niners one the last second field goal and there
was the turning point NFL Films deal, and you understood

(54:14):
that Jimmy Garoppolo like, wow, he's communicating, he's prepared um,
he's efficient, he's accurate. You guys, remember that, right he was.
He telling wide receivers like, here's what they're gonna be
in and here's do this exact thing and you'll be open.
I'll get you the ball, and he did it to
each of the wide receivers he talked to. He got

(54:34):
the ball past the yard line that his kicker told
him he needed to get to and then they get
out the field and the kicker kicks the game winning
field goal like it could not have could not have been.
Take a listen. This was we played it for you
like two and a half weeks ago. It was from
a win three weeks ago. Here's Jimmy Garoppolo. I can't

(54:59):
handle of your quickness that they're trying to grab you.
And just hit him off you and you'll be fine.
You want to hit the middle because they're safety, they're
super wide. Slip him and look as you're like slipping him,
I'll bang it on you because he has to turn
his hips. The safeties are so deep. You're gonna get
another of ten small yards. I'll bend you across a
little bit. If he's playing on top of you, though,
you can do one of these and then go to

(55:20):
steel it out player. Yeah, and he did one of those,
got the ball on, you know, and all three wide
receivers he told what to do. That's exactly how he
got in the ball on that exactly that subsequent driv
and won the game. And so what happened? What what?
I came on the radio and says, oh my gosh,
they like the New England Patriots gave away a star

(55:41):
quarterback for a second round pick, second round pick, they
had him. What happened? So so, to me, the tipping
point or the center point of this entire story is
not actually Brady Belichick and Craft. It's Jimmy Garoppolo. It's
the rest of the NFL world going happened here? How

(56:05):
was it possible that the Patriots gave up on Jimmy
Garoppolo when they got a four year old quarterback? Like
that doesn't make any sense. And this is Bill Belichick
or somebody close to Bill Belichick explaining exactly how it
came to be. You know, there's the trainer thing. Because
the trainer thing is another story to which we wanted
to see explained, and it was explained in there. And

(56:25):
it's weird, like why would he let the trainer uh
so in on the organization That even feels like it
was probably forced from above. But I feel like the
centerpiece of this story, you know, all honesty is is
not Tom Brady, It's not Bill Belichick, it's not Robert Crap.

(56:49):
It's Jimmy Garoppolo. Garoppolo has been so good, better than
even even Belichick could have thought. I mean, he has
been so good that everybody in the league is paying
at mentioned to it, and they're all like, well, what
the hell happened? All right? You didn't want to give
him to the Jets, all right, you didn't want to
give him to Cleveland because because of what happened when

(57:10):
you were in Cleveland. Okay, but the years on. The
Cardinals need a quarterback the or maybe you don't want
to give him to Denver. Denver's in the ANFC, but
they need a quarterback. Houston Texans, you know, Bill O'Brien's
your your your former assistant. He obviously needs a quarterback.
I know he's got Deshaun Watson, but Deshaun's coming off
in a c L. You got the Jacksonville Jaguars that

(57:32):
they need a quarterback like there's some other teams that
need a quarterback out there that you could have you
could have gotten or yeah, I mean there's that's all
this that's to me. That's what this piece is. This
is an explanation for what happened to how the hell
Jimmy Garoppolo end up in San Francisco for a second
round pick, and and in it you find out that

(57:54):
he was tired of being a backup, and he they
did offer him seventeen and eighteen million dollars guaranteed per year.
It was it was made more difficult because he shared
an agent with Tom Brady, which, innocent of itself, is weird.
I guess it provided both of them information on the

(58:14):
other And look, I'm repped by a guy who he
reps a lot of a lot of the biggest guys
in sports media. Now, my agent in particular, does a
great job of we're not talking about other people, is
focused on you. But he does understand the landscape and
the possibilities. And that's probably not don't shoot for that.
He might not tell me why, but my read on

(58:41):
this situation is very simple. Jimmy Garoppolo was the straw
that broke the camel's back. They all have been able
to keep this thing together. But the question is not
what has happened. This is an explanation from at least
some people's perspective and the writer's perspective as what's how up?
And it's are these issues? Are these hurt feelings reparable?

(59:05):
Or is this grounds for divorce? Like, look in a
seventeen year relationship between Brady and Belichick, it's like a
seventeen year marriage. I've been married for seventeen years. You're
gonna say something now and again that hurts your wife's feelings.
She's gonna say something now and again that's hurts your feelings.
There's gonna be moments to which you are disconnected. There

(59:28):
gonna me moments to which you feel uh, you feel
like your relationship has plateau. Then there's gonna be moments
of pure adulation where you're super close, you're completely in love,
and you just couldn't feel any better. Everything's going great.
But the question is, like when when you get to
an issue like this, like is this the one that

(59:52):
are we're gonna end the relationship over it, or we're
just gonna go to therapy and work it out or
we're gonna talk to one another and have it out
and be mad for us can't and then get over it.
That's it's a it's a big question. I would say
it's remarkable they haven't had more problems early on, but
I would say that some of it was tempered by

(01:00:13):
the fact that they've they've they've done a great job
of keeping it quiet. Right there was there was a
group burt feelings over Brady using a helicopter fly in
and out of Remember they went a decade without winning
a Super Bowl, and so you know, sometimes this this
is also the story also points out sometimes it's harder

(01:00:34):
to handle winning than it is handled losing, because when
you lose, at the end of the day, you might
be upset, but you're all pulling in the direction of winning.
Once you've won, you've won a lot, and you won
two Super Bowls recently, you've won five altogether. It's like
not now people want credit. Now, people want out of boys,

(01:00:55):
they won't respect. We haven't heard from Buyer on this thing.
Dan Buyer has his own show on the weekends. By
the way that the Dow is up to twenty, I
hope you put your money in the stock market, it's above,
it's right now, Wow, buyer, what's your what's your takeaway
on this? On the Patriots deal? I find it interesting

(01:01:19):
to see what is the quirks of Tom Brady that
seemed to have driven everything. I I actually think that
Bill Belichick continues to come out more normal than anybody
wants to give him credit for. And we always hear
the press conference. I think it's always it's the it's
the training, it's the TB twelve, it's that sort of thing.
So if I'm putting blame on anyone, I know that

(01:01:39):
wasn't your question, but that's kind of how I just
I look at the situation that the downfall of the
Patriots is going to end up being on the shoulders
of Tom Brady, Well, that would that would lead Guerrero
to be the Yoko Ono. Right. Um, it's interesting because
this there's some similarities here with this in Michael Jordan's. Um,
the difference is that or did in Phil Jackson. At

(01:02:02):
least what we've always heard is they were still connected.
It was uh, they didn't like nobody like management, nobody
like Jerry Krauss. But if you remember, like Jordan was
a fanatic with Tim Grover as his personal trainer. Now,
Grover's uh techniques were more Western medicine than Eastern medicine,
so there wasn't the hey, he's using a voodoo doll
the way that Tom Brady is right, but that that

(01:02:26):
uh star athletes do. They do have people that they
believe in more so than any like they know more
about the science of a body. I don't know, if
you know Kobe Bryant is a woman who Kobe Bryant
I used to come by and she did, you know,
especially some special type of massage therapy on his Achilles tendon,
like every day, a couple of times a day when

(01:02:48):
he tore his Achilles tend like he became a convert
to everything that she wanted to do. So that it's
actually not I know, when you read it, you're like, man,
what's the deal with Brady and why does he leaving
this TV twelve method and why is he such it's
like a cult. And but but if you kind of
look around that there's actually preston for that with for example,

(01:03:09):
with Michael Jordan's you know, Tim Grover breakfast club, he
had guys working out. They didn't have the TV twelve method.
But Tim Grover has he has a basketball facility and
he works guys out, and he's still a guru. And
it's simply built upon the reputation of hey, he's Michael
Jordan's trainer actually is president for that. So I don't

(01:03:32):
um even though there's there may be a president, but
I don't think that then blame should be pushed aside.
I mean, if Julian Edelman is rehabbing, and heck, even
Jimmy Garoppolo is apparently, you know, rehabbing, with that, it
does put a divide in the team. And that isn't
that the last thing that Bill Belichick would ever want.
Isn't he always about team? Team? I mean, I think

(01:03:52):
he understands the personalities, but it's always about the team,
and as you said, wins and losses, that's what it
comes down to. Yeah, I I just look, I do
think that more guys have their own trainers. Just the
idea that a trainer was granted that much access uh
to the facility, That's the part to which it seemed
like a bad idea, right, It's like given, It's like

(01:04:14):
given your brother who never has a job and likes
to party a key to your house or to your
apartment when you're when you're out of town, not that
he needs the house set and you're like, come back,
and you're surprised when he held apart when he had
a party, Like why are you surprised? You shouldn't have
given him a key to begin with, Like we shouldn't
have led Guerrero in here to begin with. That's fair,

(01:04:35):
all right. So if if if there was one wild
Card weekend team that you expect to be playing in
the Super Bowl, who would it be? I'll tell you
what Vegas says, it would be Um up coming next
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let's check in with Dan Buyer, find out what else
going on the wild Sports. Yeah, Patriots issuing that joint
statement denying that ESPN report that there was tension between
the three figures. John Cruden, he's gonna get uh yeah,

(01:05:17):
what a hundred million dollar deal to coach the Raiders
yet ten year contract to return to Oakland and coach
the Silver and Black. That's a coding to the NFL Network.
Gruden expected to be introduced at a news conference coming
up on Tuesday. Bills running back to Shawn McCoy considered
questionable for their wild card games Sunday against the Jaguars
with his ankle injury. Devin Funches so the Panther's questionable

(01:05:39):
for their match up against the Saints on Sunday. He's
got a shoulder injury, but is still expected to play
in that game. College Football News a trio of players
heading to the NFL Draft, most notably Heisman Trophy winning
quarterback Lamar Jackson. He is leaving Louisville to go pro.
Notre Dame running back Josh Adams on his way to
the NFL Draft as his USC running Ronald Jones. Lakers

(01:06:01):
point guard Lonzo Ball probable to return tonight to the
lineup after he missed six games because of his shoulder injury.
Lakers host the Hornets tonight. They are on an eight
game slide and try to turn things around there. That
is the latest of what's happening on this Friday before
wild Card weekend. Doug um All right. So, look, wild
card weekends interesting. We've seen wild card teams, you know,

(01:06:24):
go on the road three straight times, go to the the
Super Bowl, win the Super Bowl. I don't know if
I would go out, and I do. I feel like
this year is different. Vegas believes this year we have
three clear favorites. Uh. The New England Patriots are two
to one favorites to win the Super Bowl. Vikings are
four to one favorites to win the Super Bowl. The
Pittsburgh Stealers are nine to two favorites to get to

(01:06:45):
the Super Bowl. There are those odds. Um. The New
Orleans Saints, though, are above the l A Rams five
to one, as opposed to the Rams are twelve to one.
The Eagles, who are the number one seed, are fifteen one,
Jaguars are twenty one, The Chiefs, Falcons, Panthers, Tennessee's and

(01:07:06):
Buffalo Bills to kind of round it out, Um, yeah,
I mean I think I think the thing about the
Saints that everyone knows is you have Drew Brews right so,
and even though he hasn't been vintage Drew Brees and
has been called on to be vintage Drew Brees, you
do feel like if if he needed to be. He

(01:07:27):
could be vintage Drew Brees at least for a drive
or two. The problem is, this is a team that
is eleven and five, but there's seven and one at
home and they gotta go on the road. That's the problem.
They're built to play at home or even playing domes
and uh, you know, maybe Minnesota is in front of them.

(01:07:48):
That kind of changes things. But you have no idea
who they play. I don't think any of these wild
card teams are going to go to a super Bowl.
I just don't think this is a different year than
previous years. Uh, but whoever can get to face you know,

(01:08:09):
if somebody can get an upset, if it's the if
it's the Atlanta Falcons that can upset the Rams, if
somebody can get to that Philadelphia game, it propels you
in an NFC championship game. Now the sudden, Uh, there's
no reason to believe. You just have to win one.
Problem is they gotta win three and it just beats
you up. If I was putting my money on one,

(01:08:31):
that would probably be the one that I'm putting it on.
It would be the Atlanta Falcons, more so the New
Orleans Saints. I know the Saints have been a better
and more refined team throughout the year. I know they've
beat in the Carolina Panthers twice. I just I have
a hard time believing have a hard time believing that
that this is a team, this is a team that's

(01:08:55):
gonna in the New Orleans Saints. It's gonna win two
straight road games in order to get to a Super Bowl,
especially in the home environments they are likely to play in. Yeah, music,
what do you got? It's I can agree with you
because I would put it on the Falcons. But are
we putting too much stock in the fact that we

(01:09:17):
saw how good the Falcons were last year before the
Super Bowl corraps collapse, and not just looking at it
for what they've been this year. Yeah, yeah, no question.
And look, the Falcons aren't aren't great away from home either.
They're five and three on the road. You know they're
not great. Um, And the Saints have been thoroughly dominant,

(01:09:39):
right Like, the Saints are a plus one two and
if you if you look like the Saints uh a
sweep of the Panthers. They beat the Bills, who are
a playoff team on the road to ten like that
wasn't beating. That was a whooping. On the other hand,
they're just three and three in their last six, losing
to the same Rams that we're talking out, losing to

(01:10:01):
the Falcons on the road, and I guess I'll hold
the Buccaneers against them, even though that's not a game
to which I'm gonna I'm gonna sit here and says matters.
Even though Alvin Kamara got the ball around in the game.
I mean, they were they they weren't necessarily playing, uh,
playing where they had to win. They had their backs
up against the wall they were in in the playoffs,
but Drew Brees never came out of the game and

(01:10:21):
they still lost three and three down the stretch. So yeah,
we're taking we have um recently, we have precedent's bias,
right because we've seen the Falcons get to Super Bowl,
because we've seen the Falcons play on Sunday in order
to fight their way into the playoffs. Yeah, I think
maybe we hold the Falcons in higher regard than the

(01:10:41):
rest of the league does. But I still like a
lot of the Falcons personnel, and I just I've been
I struggled. I struggled to see the Saints being able
to win out of New Orleans. Alvin Kamara joined us
early in the show. If you missed that, download the
doug out Leap Show podcast. Um. We talked about his
love for airheads, Right, airhead candies, ralmost, do you have

(01:11:06):
a candy that's kind of an under the radar? Air head?
Isn't a I think everybody knows what airhead candies are.
It's like a fake lemon. They're they're sour, but not
super super sour. It's kind of a random candy to
have a thing for. But everybody has their candy. What
is your candy of choice? Candy of choice is three Musketeers. Okay,
now it's I'm glad you brought up three Musketeers because

(01:11:28):
that is not a candy. That is a candy bar.
How about um Jolly Rogers, Jolly Ranchers. Yes, jolly jelly Ranchers. Dog,
that is correct, Jolly Ranchers. I was like, wait they

(01:11:53):
put jolly Rogers. Is it's it's such an their ground candy.
I knew it was jolly jolly something with R. Well.
I mean like, look, that's the pirate the pirate flags, right,

(01:12:14):
pirate ship the pirate ship flag. I was like for
a second there, I was like, wait, are there candies?
I don't know about? That? Was that was? That was
its favorite? Yeah, by your favorite candy? Go um geeks? No,
I mean nerds. That's just kidding John, No, nerds, strawberry
and great that's it. Here's the thing I said this

(01:12:36):
and last year that the folks that Jolly Rancher they
sent me a huge care package. Um that, like, I
don't know anybody like doesn't mean it's your favorite candy.
But if somebody goes like, do you want a Jolly Rancher,
you go like, yeah, why not? Right, It's it's kind
of like gonna help your breath. It tastes. You can
get different sorts of flavors or whatever. Um, John, what's
your favorite flavor of Jolly Roger? The great green Apple? Yeah,

(01:13:02):
that's a good call. Um. And then is there a
different flavor to any of the nerds? Hold on, hold
I'm back up, back up, He said grape? And then yeah,
I thought he was saying great apple. My bad, this
this this segment has gone completely off the room. What's
funny about grape is grape taste nothing like grape. Everybody

(01:13:24):
likes the flavor of grape, but it doesn't taste anything
like grapes. Did you ever know? Then? I'm a big
fan um nerds? Are there different? I know there are
different flavors of nerds. My me and my son we
only have nerds like Halloween like, and we just don't
go out and buy candy. Who doesn't love nerds? Can
you taste the difference in any flavor of nerds or all?

(01:13:44):
Do all nerds taste a like? No? I think they're
different because I go strawberry and grape. I don't do watermelon.
I don't do any of the other other ones. But
I always eat strawberry first and then I eat all
of the grape, and there's a definite difference between the two.
I do like I will. I'm not lying to you.
I do like a good do like a good nerd.

(01:14:05):
What about you music? Would you like to get on?
Get in on this? Alvin Kamara joined us. He told
us about his absolute love for um for air heads,
there's also warheads. Warheads are the ones that are like
super potent, super super sour. That wasn't his jam. He
likes air heads. Go ahead, yeah, mine would be the
company that makes gummy bears harri Bo. They also make

(01:14:27):
this thing called Fizzy Cola, which are like these other
gummies that are kind of like a cola tasting, but
then it's like sweetish fish only only only cold cold taste. Yeah,
but they gotta get the fizzy ones because then those
are covered in this kind of like soury sugar on
the outside because they make regular cola and then you
gotta get the fizzy ones because they have even more
sugar on them, which makes them all right. So, anybody

(01:14:49):
who works at Harlow who wants to send us a
care package, I will try these candy on air. Uh
that sent him to uh Premiere Radio Networks in Sherman Oaks, California. UM.
Sal Patch Kids are my favorite. They are I do
like also. I also I like Skittles as well, but
I don't like Skittles to the level of other people
like Skittles. Actually, like there's a there's sour Skittles are

(01:15:11):
like I like anything sour, anything sour um. And then
you know, like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups does that, but
the probably Reese's Peanut Butter Cups is it does kind
of violate my policy of comparing chocolate bars to candy, right,
And I know that a Reese's Peanut butter cup is
not a chocolate bar, but it's closer to a chocolate

(01:15:31):
bar than it is to a candy. Do you guys,
you guys feel me on that? Is that? Is that
a reasonable explanation for am I feeling on it? I
just I want to be fair because I demolished John
John goes three Musketeers, like three Musketeers, Milky Way, Snickers,
even twigs, and I put Reese's Peanut butter cups in
those as those aren't candies as much as there's are

(01:15:53):
child those are more bar e than they are candy. Yeah,
I would agree with that, especially fantatric. Yeah, packaging might
be the big thing which Reese's Peanut butter Reese's pieces.
Now that feels more like a candy. That feels more
like Dan Patrick thinks that Peyton Manning could be the
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(01:16:38):
the call of Oregon, Oregon State Civil War. Now, we're
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weren't sure if you're aware of I'm sure if you're
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Every day at this time, we like to bring in
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(01:17:00):
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(01:17:23):
is a good, but we bring it back for you
and make our own comments like this, and now say
all right. Dan Patrick Show, which of course you can
hear on our Fox Sports radiophiliate, has had this to
say about the possible short term future of Peyton Manning.
I think Peyton is looking at a John Elway situation,

(01:17:44):
and I was told this last night, so follow me
on this. The Titans are up for sale. What if
Tennessee and Cleveland swapped ownership. So Jimmy Haslum is from Tennessee.
Is Haslam's brother, the governor in Tennessee. But what if
Jimmy Haslem came back, you know, he took over the

(01:18:04):
Titans and then Peyton because I from what I was told, Peyton,
you know, the Browns would have been interesting. He didn't
want to live in Cleveland, but you know he's played
at Tennessee. What if you had Jimmy Haslem taking over
the Titans and then Peyton mann and could be part
of that ownership group or have a John Elway broke

(01:18:25):
that That was brought up to me last night. I
had not thought of it. I didn't even know. I
knew Jimmy haslm was, you know, Tennessee guy, and that
the Titans were up for sale. I didn't know it
is his governor. The governor is is Jimmy Haslm's brother, right, Bill, Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know about the the switching
of ownership, but it's long been rumored that Peyton Manning

(01:18:47):
wants an ownership steak. And what's likely to happen is
and you've seen this with Gruden. Whare Gruden as a coach?
Couldn't We don't know if he's got an ownership steak, right,
like ten years a hundred million dollars is what you
what you're going to read. That doesn't mean they're not
some sort of ownership stake involved, because I'm telling you
the Raiders do not have that kind of cash. Now.
They may think they'll be flesh with cash because they

(01:19:07):
got cash infused to them um when they needed help
building the stadium. But my guess would be that there's
there's some sort of equity stake in the team. That's
part of where that number ten million dollars comes from.
It's like, I'm not sure if you guys wear this.
Jim Harball, you know, Jim Harbaboub makes nine million dollars
a year, right, That's what's listen, makes nine million dollars

(01:19:28):
year but four million of it is from a life
insurance policy. Now a a life insurance policy that's worth
there's actually two that are worth two million dollars apiece.
You're not actually paying two million dollars that it's what
it's an investment vehicle that ultimately will be you know,
four million dollars, but it's not it's not nine million

(01:19:50):
dollars in cash per year. And that's the same thing.
I think that's kind of what the that's what you'll
see with paid Manny who's long wanted to be an owner.
He wants to run the team. Remember, he spent much
of the preseason and some of the season going from
team to team to team, talking with coach, talking with
general managers, just watching football. And it's a really smart

(01:20:11):
way of trying to do businesses, Understanding the business of sports,
understanding what's different and different training camps, different styles of management,
different styles of coaching, getting a sense for and and
and catching his breath because he's been away from his
family for so long. I think this is really smart.
And yeah, I think it's not a likely, that's not
a possibility. It's a likelihood that he has some role

(01:20:32):
with the Tennessee Titans, which has long been rumored. I
don't know, but it has some switching ownership. I do
think that that's the way to pay pay Manning what
he's worth and UH is to give him some sort
of ownership steak instead of simply giving him a salary. Alright. Also,
Nick Wright had this thing to say, this to say

(01:20:53):
about Paul Pierce not wanting and Isaiah Thomas video tribute
on the same night as they retire his jersey. You
deserve to have your jersey retired. You are a Celtics legend,
a Celtics legend, and as far as NBA history, you
are somewhere from the best player ever in the history
of the world. To do something that is a hell

(01:21:14):
of an accomplishment. But how you twist your mouth about
to compare yourself to Kobe Bean Bryant is beyond me.
And if you're gonna be that petty Isaiah Thomas, I'm
going to return it with just not even petty. And
it's just some facts because while Paul Pierce's career in
Boston was far greater than Isaiah Thomas's career, the best

(01:21:37):
season Paul Pierce ever had in Boston was not as
good as the season Isaiah Thomas. Just since Larry Bird retired,
the Celtics have two top five MVP finishes, one by
the guy that won, Paul Pierce a ring and Kevin Garnett,
and the other by the little guy, Isaiah Thomas. If

(01:22:00):
kind of a classic Nick Right argument, is it that
he's simply based in upon a stats that that work
out in his fashion. Um, he did say, and he's accurate.
Paul Pierce had a better career. I don't know. I
don't understand how somebody goes seventy five or whatever best
player of all time. Um, Paul Pierce had his best year.
He average about twenties seven points a game, and he
was a dominant scorer as opposed to Isaiah Thomas, who

(01:22:23):
average twenty nine points game. Just because you're a couple
points more per game and you get more m VP
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Patriots next What up Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio
coming to you from cloudy Rainy Organ actually Eugene, Oregon.
Our thanks to our Fox Sports Radio affiliate in Eugene,
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(01:23:03):
headed over to Corvallis, Oregan, which is like forty five
minutes away. Uh spent the last night hanging in Portland, Organs.
I've seen all of of Oregon except for I have
not been to Bend, Oregan. I need to go to Bender.
But it's like, dude, you got a good Bend. Uh Anyway, Um,
I saw a sign ramos you you'd appreciate. And when

(01:23:24):
I say you'd appreciate, not because you're a pot smoker,
just because you have a very good sense of humor.
It was ever heard of it? It says like ever
heard of the Dubi sisters? Right, because there's like signs
for like we dispensaries everywhere. Um as it is legal
all on the western seaboard Washington, now Oregon and of

(01:23:46):
course the state of California as well as Nevada, Nevada.
Before Sessions tries to roll that stuff back anyway, I
when I roll it back, now, that's not what I meant.
It's actually they're trying to roll back the rules. Never mind,
I'm not digging myself a bigger hole. Uh So the
story everybody's talking about is this new England Patriots story.
Step Wick Wickersham uh goes in depth into the uh

(01:24:09):
fractured as he listed fractured relationship between Bill Belichick, Tom
Brady and Robert Kraft and kind of, um, kind of
the inner workings of a seventeen year relationship. It's first,
it's complex, and there are parts to it to which
I think people clown, but it does paint the picture

(01:24:33):
of human beings, right, Like Tom Brady apparently this year
has never been awarded what Patriot of the Week, and
it doesn't sit well with Patriots, doesn't sit well with him.
And as much as like, look, dude, you're the face
of a franchise, do you really need to be recognized
as Patriot of the week? Right? Do you really? Um?

(01:24:56):
I I do understand that something that everybody needs and
at a boy now and again, the story works and
the story is believable because I think all of us
have on some level of insecurity. Right, There's there's something
that ticks us off about any relationship or any workplace

(01:25:18):
we have ever worked, and it works, and it be
believable because it's the Patriots. News doesn't come out about
the Patriots. We want to know why Jimmy Garoppolo was
traded and traded for so little. We want to know
this Brady thing with Guerrero his trainer, and why how

(01:25:39):
that relationship uh dissolved or dissolved between the trainer and
the club. And we want to know how how you know,
how has Tom Brady hung on and remained a Patriot
when every other player who gets long in the tooth
gets traded away and then retire shortly thereafter. How is

(01:25:59):
that happen? So whether or not it's true probably not
that important to most people because there's a lot of
confirmation bias in there. Like I always, I look at
Tom Brady and he looks like somebody who want credit
for winning a Super Bowl. And I look at Bill
Belichick and he looks like somebody who be vindictive. And
I look at Robert Kraft and he seems like the

(01:26:21):
type of guy that would fall in love with his
player as opposed to his coach and would side with
his player. And just like Robert Kraft, who you know,
his his first wife died. Now he's dating a much
younger woman. Like that's the sign of a guy who
understands what getting older is like, and they want he
wants to feel younger by being around a younger woman.
He kind of sides with team Brady and that Brady

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telling him, hey, I can play. I'm fine. That's what
happens when a sixty something year old guy tries to
relate himself to the player. I don't know if any
of it is true, but I want to believe it,
and so do you. That's the big thing is you
want to believe it's true. And so even if even

(01:27:03):
if Bill beliticks like this isn't true, you're not believing
Bill Belichick. And it has nothing to do with journalism.
It just has to do with how the how the
human mind works. The human mind says they don't ever
let anybody in. Suddenly, now I'm in. This is this
is why they don't let anybody in. It's really a
poop show in here. There's really all kinds of disagreements

(01:27:26):
and dissensions. There's really fracture relationships. No wonder they don't
tell us said anything because once we find stuff out,
we can run with it, and man is it ugly.
Now that said, that doesn't mean I think Seth Seth
Seth Wickersham is a liar. I think he tried to
construct a story that paints the truest picture that he's

(01:27:49):
been able to see of exactly what's going on. Well,
we don't know is does this end in divorce? Right?
Once you get married, gonna get into a fight, there's
gonna be a disagreement. Heck, you could just be wired
differently than your wife is. You just see things differently.

(01:28:10):
Like the most the the simplest one is in raising
a child, like I would like to think that when
you when before you get married, you should if you're
from different religions, like I'm Jewish, my wife is a
Southern Baptist, and before we I don't know if it
wasn't before we got married, before we had kids, were like,
all right, what are we gonna do about the religious thing?
And she's like, we we made a deal, right, Uh,

(01:28:32):
there'll be no brists, no like formal brists, and there
would be no baptism. We're like, okay, deal. We meet
in the middle of that. One teach the kid about God.
Neither of us are really all that big on going
to church and temple. Occasionally we will go and yeah,
we'll just allow the child to kind of understand religion
and God and take it where they want. That was

(01:28:53):
like our agreement. But a lot of people don't. They
don't want to have that conversation because it could lead
to an argument, could lead to a disagreement. And if
you have it when you've already had a kid, like hey,
I want to do this as my kid, all right,
are we gonna Are we gonna get along through this?
Are we're just gonna get a divorced through it? Or
corporate punishment with a child? I was spanked. I survived,

(01:29:18):
although my personal discipline and some on some levels is
much better than my wife's, and many levels is not
as good as my wife. She was a perfect child.
She didn't have to be spent man, I think she
wasn't she was little. But she doesn't believe in corporate punishment.
Like that's where you have a conversation like is this
Are we gonna get divorced over this? Or is this
just like we're gonna we're gonna agree to disagree, And

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that's the answer to which I don't necessarily think. I
didn't think it painted an accurate picture of it or
A and I just didn't I didn't think it created
a any sense of defining Bell Belichick is absolutely walking

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out the door next year. Now there are signs John
Gruden agrees to a ten year, one hundred million dollar
deal today or that's that's the number that's been released
and there's a press conference upcoming. All right, so Belichick
may want to walk away. The value of a superstar
head coach has been established as a hundred million dollars.

(01:30:21):
Like these two things just happened to happen at the
same time, Like, huh, who wouldn't want to move mountains
in order for uh, in order for Bill to to
have Bill Belichick as their head coach? Who wouldn't I mean,

(01:30:41):
is it? Is it crazy? They're crazy thing? Why couldn't
he coach the New York Giants? They don't have a
coach he's close to the organization Parcels' mentor he used
to be an assistant coach there. They're gonna have a
quarterback to draft number two in the draft? Is it crazy?
Like it ain't crazy? But that is if these issues,

(01:31:02):
this kind of smoldering. Uh, or maybe there's a lot
of sensitivity hurt feelings. If that gets that, you know what,
I can't work here anymore because hurt feelings are one thing.
Lots of dudes walk around with hurt feelings at places
of work. Does that mean you can't work there anymore?
And I did not see there a defining sentence to

(01:31:24):
which this is a fracture relationship that is not fixable.
There are some fractures, there's some distrust, there's some disdain.
There are parts of it to which you're like, yeah,
Brady wants to play forever. Belichick is a realist, and
the owner is getting involved in football when he's never
gotten involved in football. This is a volatile mix. But
is it's so vulnable that explodes short term? Of course,

(01:31:50):
it helps the Patriots. It becomes a galvanizing thing. Nobody
understands this. Nobody gets that this is how we've been
able to succeed all these years. We have different opinions,
and different opinions are a good thing. When they become
public and your insecurities are aired, it's a hard thing.

(01:32:15):
And I think, if if anything, a big part of
this is the Garoppolo success story of the end of
the season. Jimmy Garoppolo was so good that somebody needs
to explain how the Patriots gave away their future star quarterback.
And it does feel like Belichick is sitting there going, hey,

(01:32:38):
I want to keep them, and the old man shows
Brady my four year old quarterback over the kid. It
feels like this story is as much or more about
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we only have five pro games, so we have four
pro games, so we can't do all five, right, you
can't do the normal Friday picks. We got four we
can do four? Shall we indulge? We shall Let's start
with the Tennessee Titans taken on the Kansas City Chiefs. UM.
I don't know if you guys know this. Look, I'm
not proposing that Alex Smith should be an m v P,

(01:35:15):
H should be should win the MVP. Tom Brady's likely
to win the MVP. Okay, but are you aware that
the Kanci Chiefs have a similarly poorly wrecked defense. Are
you aware that the numbers almost across the board are
actually as good or better in many instances, fewer touchdown

(01:35:37):
passes but fewer interceptions for Alex Smith, similar almost exact
same completion percentage. Are you aware that Alex Smith is
having his best year of his career? UM, this is
going against the Tennessee team that comes at you with
two running backs and one de Marco Murray is hurt.
It's a Kansas City team that obviously is much better

(01:35:59):
at home, winners of four in a row, and uh,
a team that UH that I believe is rightfully favored
by nine points. Nine feels like a lot in the playoffs,
but it's only because they didn't want to do ten.
I like the Chiefs and the points. I've said all
week that I feel like Atlanta is gonna give the
Rams a hell of a game. I just do. And

(01:36:21):
I think the Rams no that Atlanta is gonna give
him a hell of a game. I think if the
Rams can get past this game, Rams can get to
a super Bowl. I just don't know if they can
get past this game. Um, I'm willing to believe the
Rams are gonna win, but five and a halfs too many.
I think the Atlanta Falcons just kind of a feeling
I have so much better with Davante Freeman back in
the lineup. You know he was out. They had games

(01:36:43):
in which Mohammed's knew was out, Julio Jones was out.
This a team that, yes, was there a Super Bowl hangover? Sure,
I'm willing to believe that, But there's also the idea that, uh,
they weren't healthy, and when healthy, Matt Ryan has his
flaw is better than the Dome. But it's gonna be
playing in the sunny weather of southern California. It's not

(01:37:04):
like they're gonna be playing in some sort of snowstorm
that that limits him. Uh, Matty Ice only two for
twenty touchdown passes. But he's got Freeman, he's got Kevin Coleman,
he's got Julio, He's got some new If they can
find a third wide receiver to find against this Rams defense,
I think they can survive. I think the Rams win,

(01:37:25):
but not having Gregserline hurts them in terms of winning
by ten points and not having the playoff experience going
against the Falcons close game. The Rams win, but the
Falcons cover get to the Sunday games. Buffalo is taken
on Jacksonville. Uh, this is another huge spread. It's a

(01:37:46):
nine point line, and we should point out to the
Buffalo Bills have one for their last six getting into
the playoffs. The only two losses were blowout loss to
the Patriots, but they gave up fifty four to the
Charge just that was the five interception game with Nathan Peterman,
but gave up forty seven the game before that to
the Saints, thirty four to the Jets. Um even the

(01:38:08):
second loss of the Patriots was thirty seven points. Like,
this is a defense which can give up points in bunches.
I mean, let's be honest. Them getting to the playoffs
is a little bit of a miracle. So I'm scared
about the nine point line in Vegas. This is more
of a lean than anything else. I'd lean Jacksonville, but

(01:38:30):
take them even with the substantial number of points and
Blake Bortles not playing well. I'm concerned to get with
Blake against elite team's lead defenses. I don't see that
being the case with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Uh. I'm not

(01:38:50):
a big believer in the church at cam Newton. I'm
just not. But I do think that they have a
chance if they'll run the football, be because these Saints
are twenty three in the NFL against the run. I
think this is gonna be a game in which you
try and keep the Saints off the field by running
the football, shortening the game. And I think Carolina can

(01:39:13):
do just that. They have a good defense that's pretty healthy,
and going against the Saints team that though they have
Drew Brees, it's more about a running game. I know
the Saints to beat him twice. I expect the Saints
to beat him a third time. But I think the
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the Patriots story is big. It it probably overshadows the
Gruden story. I know people are freaking out about the

(01:40:17):
numbers with Gruden, but this actually makes a lot of sense.
You had to blow him out of the water in
order to John Gruen has been offered other jobs when
I just Tennessee, there's talk of Texas and football and
and there I'm sure have been other The only way
to get a John Gruden out from the Monday night
football booth is with f you money, right, And that's

(01:40:43):
what ten years, one million dollars is, that's this is
this is what we got. This is what we got.
And oh yeah, by the way, you can't. You can't
fire a Jack del Rio who's not a great coach
but as a competent coach, you can't fire at Jack
del Rio unless you absolutely know you have that guy.

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Like this is the difference. This is I don't know
if you guys remember this. Urban Meyer was an assistant
coach at Notre Dame. So Urban left goes to be
the head coach at Bowling Green. He's awesome at Bowling Green.
He goes to Utah, finished the season undefeated at Utah,
and Notre Dame and Florida both needed a coach. Notre

(01:41:29):
Dame flies him and he goes to Notre Dame first.
This is urban Meyer, same one who won two national
championships of Florida and has won a national championship at
at Ohio State. And though though Florida as a greater
proximity to players, like if it was at that point
and this point, it's still no Tree Dame, still Notre Dame.

(01:41:51):
Notre Dame offered him two million dollars Florida offered him
for he took the Florida job. Okay, So now look,
you can take shots of the fact that, like I
also think we're missed construing, we're misconstruing Jon Gruden's numbers. Okay,
I'm gonna give me John Gruden's records. Where he when

(01:42:14):
he coached eight and eight, eight and eight with the
Oakland Raiders, twelve and four, ten and six, right, and
he was so And that was ten and six was
the tuck rule year. They had the Patriots beat in
New England and the tuck rule ends up undoing them.

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He had won four playoff games in two years with Oakland.
So he gets traded to Tampa Bay and he takes
over a team and he wins the Super Bowl twelve
and four. Now everybody says the thing fell apart, and
it did. They were seven and nine, then five, eleven,
five and eleven. And people want to point out with

(01:42:55):
the last six years of a record, Well, let's look
at the last four years eleven than five, then four
and twelve. When his four and twelve I believe he
lost like three quarterbacks to injury, and then nine and seven,
nine and seven, These were not disastrous seasons. These were
above five. In other words, he's had three below five

(01:43:16):
hundred seasons in eleven years in the Nashal Football League.
Three And if you want to say, well, man, look
he took over for Tony Dungee and he did. He did,
but look at the new The Tampa Buccaneers haven't seen

(01:43:38):
any sort of success since he left. None none. Their
historic franchise numbers are terrible. He was the best and
biggest name. He was McVeigh before there's McVeigh. He has
a history of success in building up the Raiders and
handing off a Super Bowl team to Bill Callahan and

(01:43:59):
then winning a Super Bowl with the with the Tampa
Baby tamp Bay Buccaneers. You tell me a guy who
has a better resume out there and the whole idea
what he's been out of the game, Like, no, he hasn't.
He just hasn't been the head coach. And dude's been
doing the draft. He knows every one of these players.

(01:44:21):
I think that the the craziest thing is people taking
shots at Gruden, Like, yeah, they had to pay him.
He was making like seven million dollars to not work
in the off season and do Monday night. I did
Monday and football work once a week, and then he
had his Gruden camp and did the draft. Like you're
gonna have to overpay, You're gonna have to blow out

(01:44:43):
of it because otherwise you're like Notre Dame. When you
could have had Urban Meyer and you're like, yeah, you know,
we go cheap, Like, what's the point of going cheap
on it? If you know that's the guy that you
want and other people have wanted him, and you know
he you know how he fits in with your culture.
This is not a relationship that they don't know what
they're getting into. They know exactly what they're getting into.
And the likelihood is he's better than he was before

(01:45:04):
because he's been away from it as a head coach,
but been around it and understood what other people do
well and integrated it. Breaking Dan by, what do you got?
Damn Well? We got news from the NFL looking at
the wild Card weekend as Lashawn McCoy reportedly is expected
to try and give it a go against the Jaguars
on Sunday's got that sprained ankle was very limited in

(01:45:26):
practice all week long, In fact, didn't even practice on
Wednesday and only stretched Thursday, but Leshawn McCoy considered questionable
to go against the Bills coming up on Sunday. Other
injury news for wild Card weekend, Panther's wide receiver Devon
Funius also considered questionable with the shoulder injury, he is
expected to play Tom Brady in the news. First of all,

(01:45:47):
he was named APL Pro quarterback today, yes first team
All Pro for Tom Brady Rams and the most players
on the first team with six players including running back
Todd Gurley. But Brady was part of a joint state
and issued by the Patriots on behalf of the quarterback
and coach Bill Belichick and owner Robert Kraft, as the
statements of the report from ESPN earlier today contained speculated

(01:46:09):
theories that were exaggerated and inaccurate that ESPN report, so
there was tension between the figures, adding that Belichick and
Brady had a strained relationship based on the role of
Brady's personal trainer in the role that Jimmy Garoppolo had
with the team and Doug this just in. Alex Guerrero,
the personal trainer of Tom Brady, released his own statements
on the TV twelve sports dot com website, trying to

(01:46:32):
ship some more light on who he is, saying that yes,
he has a close personal relationship with the friendship with
Tom Brady, but he also tends to other athletes and
that it is never his intent to cause any strife
or to get in the middle of it. It's kind
of a blast statement, but I guess they felt that

(01:46:53):
Alex Guerrero needed to make a statement of his own.
So that's on the Tom Brady the TV twelve sports
dot com website. Um, John Gorden gonna get that ten year,
a hundred million dollar contract from the Raiders. Introduced on Tuesday,
Lamar Jackson heading to the NFL Draft is the Louisville
quarterback will head to the pros. Notre Dame running back
Josh Adams for going his eligibility. He's entering the NFL

(01:47:14):
Draft as well USC running back Ronald Jones and a
Lonzo ball back tonight for the Lakers, probable to play
after missing six games with the shoulder injury. Lakers have
lost eight in a row. All right, Uh, let's let's
let's get to the bottom of what people in the
NFL think. Uh, this guy does an amazing job for
CBS Sports. Fall him on Twitter at Jason Lackhamphora, and

(01:47:35):
of course you can read him at CBS Sports dot com.
Jason lackham for CBS NFL Insider joins us on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Well, what's the reaction around in the
league to the Patriot story. I gotta be honest with you.
I haven't, you know, talked to that many people about it. Um,
I'm not. I've read it twice. I'm still somewhat can

(01:48:00):
What did I say? Exactly what I made of it? Um?
I mean, at some point everything comes to an end,
and it's a you know, quarterback will be forty one
next year and an owner will be seventy six next
year and the second oldest coach in the league. Um.
So nothing is forever and nothing is guaranteed. I personally

(01:48:23):
have not gotten the sense that it's markedly worse there,
or like guys are really in their feelings this year
and like, boy, he's the reason we lost those three games. No,
he must be. Um, you know Tom Brady being coached hard.
That's that's Bill Belichick like that that you know that's

(01:48:43):
been going on for for eighteen years there or whatever. Um,
I don't know, Doug. I don't think it's going to
like affect them. I don't. I don't think it's going
to be a story that we're talking about two months
from now or six months from now, you know, even
at the start of next season. But I do think
if you and I are talking on a wild card
weekend next year, that they're probably on to buy And

(01:49:06):
they're definitely a f C East champions And Brady might
not be the m v P, but he's stole a
winning quarterback who's quite viable, and Bob Craft still the
owner and Bill Belichick still the coach and Tom Brady
still the quarterback. Does does the Gruden money does that
change anything for anybody? Like? Does this now become the

(01:49:27):
hold on if John Gruens were ten for a hundred
million dollars? What is Bill Belichick worth? Welly, do we
even know exactly what Bill Belichick makes? You know? I
don't mean Forbes put their list out and everything, but
like I don't know anybody other than like you know,
Bill Belichick, his agent, Neil Cornrich and Bob Kraft, who
absolutely know exactly everything that's in that contract. But I
think from the money standpoint, I mean, you know, we've

(01:49:49):
had guys Shaw Payton in the eighth to nine range.
A lot of people assume Belichick is nine to ten ish.
I don't think it's the money, it's ten years, Like
that's five job cycles in the NFL. You know what
I mean, we're like, in your second year, you pretty
much put a show something. So it's it's it's that
sort of commitment. Now, this is also an unusual situation though,

(01:50:09):
where they're playing in you know, uh, basically we can't
call it a neutral site. I mean, it's still their
home stadium. But you know, they're they're they're short timer
is obviously in Oakland, they're kind of lame ducks for
two or three years there and we don't even know,
maybe it's more like three or four years until they
get the Vegas and there isn't that exact certainty with
the stadium from what I've heard, what I gather about

(01:50:30):
when it will absolutely be ready. So I think that
has something to do with it. The fact that he's
trying to sell this team in Vegas years ahead of
time and wants to have a face of the franchise
type coach who can wine and dine people, who has
immediate cashier, who all the casino owners are gonna want
to hang out with, and I mean, let's face it,
he'll be the de facto owner of the other Raiders,
you know. I mean, Mark Davis is not need a

(01:50:52):
little socially awkward at times. Right, He's not a big personality.
He's not a guy who where he walks in the
room people like whispering. There's Mark Wait a minute, there's
Mark Davis. And there are some owners who have swag.
Robert Kraft would be one of them. So now he's
got Gruden to to do a lot of that for
him in the off season and in the years leading
up to this thing, and just further solidify this. As

(01:51:14):
for my business standpoint, a slam dunk for the Las
Vegas business community. We'll see about on field. I mean,
nothing's guaranteed, although I do think wholl coach up Derek
Carr and be a lot harder on him and give
him the kind of tough love that a guy like
Tom Brady has responded to so well for all these years. Yeah,
you know, it's it's interesting because somehow what's gotten lost

(01:51:36):
in this thing is that he's a really good coach.
He's really well respected. Had too many quarterbacks kind of
on a on a turnstyle a little bit at the
end there in Tampa, but it wasn't like no one
thought that he couldn't coach, and he hasn't been out
of the game. I would guess that NFL people not
outside of the ten year part NFL people go like, yeah,

(01:51:56):
Gruden to the Raider gruden ktting back in makes a
lot more sense than and then maybe anybody else they
could hire. No, Yeah, no, I I think someone especially
when Martin mean Mark Davis from the moment his dad
passed away and and he kind of got thrust into
this position that you know, he didn't necessarily ask for
and and maybe he isn't really in his blood other

(01:52:17):
than it's literally in his blood. He had to get
a stadium, but he had to find two things. Really,
he wanted to find a coach, somebody to restore that
national brand, that commitment to excellence. The Raiders come to
town and it's a big deal, that whole rock star
element of them being, you know, from a business standpoint

(01:52:39):
or just from a marketing standpoint or a branding standpoint,
you know in all caps NFL franchise team. And he
had a find a stadium and if I call certainty,
had to get out of the O C. O Colosseum.
And he had to be in a situation where he
has the same revenue streams, the same bells and whistles,
the same um sponsorship deals and licensing deals and sweet deals,

(01:53:01):
all the stadium stuff that puts money in his pocket
and allows you to fund the team the way you
want to and and let's be real and have somebody else,
you know, fit the bill, right, which is what basically
happened in Vegas. And he's managed to do both. He's
literally been chasing Mark Davis all over the country, Mark,
but Mark Davis has been chasing John Gruden all over

(01:53:21):
the country, like literally, not figuratively, like all over the
country for six years and he finally gone. Pretty remarkable.
Jason Lockham Forward joining us from CBS sports Um Close
to Home. The Kirk Cousins exit interviews, Uh, just kind
of got weird with with Jay Gruden. Right, Jay Gruden
wants clarity, he wants long term solution. On the other hand,

(01:53:44):
though he praised him some, he wasn't affuse in his praise.
Then we hear stories that you know, Denver could be
a suitor. Obviously, Arizona needs a quarterback. There are other
teams best sets. What's the market look like for Kirk Cousins. Well,
I mean the reality is this is Dan Snyder's deal
and Bruce Allen I mean even Cousins himself and certainly

(01:54:04):
Jay Gruden their cogs in the machine. I mean, he
puts out his film for sixteen times a year, and
then they've got, you know, a few weeks, six weeks,
but you know, leading up to the franchise tag period
here or whatever, it's six seven weeks to figure out
what they're gonna do with him. He doesn't have to
do anything. I mean, he's done it. He's he did
his speaking on Sundays with you know, for three hours

(01:54:25):
a day every Sunday for the last last three seasons.
So Jake Gruden is not gonna mean this week you're
talking about a hundred million dollar decision. That's a Dance
Snyder thing. Jake Gruden would love to keep him. Jake
Gruden would give him all the money he wants. But
it's not his money and it's not his call. They
can't let him leave the building for a third round
COMPI in and it's basically a fourth round pick right

(01:54:47):
at the end of the third round, Like he can't
go for whatever. I'm not a math whiz pick number
nine nine or whatever. In like that can't happen, not
if you just gave him forty two million dollars the
last two years, and he's performed armed as a top
five to eight quarterback in the league statistically. That's the reality. Um,
so he's gonna get tagged again, and then could that

(01:55:08):
be a precursor to a trade? Certainly? Could it be
a precursor to a long term deal between now in July. Yeah,
but he's not gonna do anything other than tag me,
whether it's the transition A or the franchise at thirty
four and now we've set a new base mark for
me and I can negotiate all of that. And if
you guys don't want to do it, and you want
to give me thirty million for one year, and I

(01:55:28):
count thirty million against your cap, and then I hit
free agencies a thirty one year old a year from now,
and teams don't have to give up anything to get me,
which means they're going to give me more money, right
because the way you get less money is when they
give up all the picks. Well, they don't have to
give up all the picks, and I'm a UFA and
I'm getting all the money, or the Redskins give me
an offer I can't refuse. Now, or they train me
to somebody who will do the same. So he's one.
He's already won again. Okay, uh Eli Manning. Now the

(01:55:54):
Giants sit with the with the number two pick in
the draft, and with this draft, you're like, hey, Joshua
and could be there. He could be the airparent. Maybe
he learns behind Eli Manning. Or maybe they trade Eli
Manning in the off season to somewhere like the Jaguars,
assuming the Jaguars come up short. Or maybe maybe to
Denver where his brothers saw a success, or maybe to
Arizona where Carson Palmer and Kurt Warner saw resurgence in

(01:56:16):
their career, or or sae Quon Barkley is a top
top couple, top three, top four pick. You put the
best running back in the draft with the best wide
receiver back healthy in Odell Beckham Jr. And you you
remake that offensive line and you you give it one
last go with Eli. Best sense of Eli Manning next season.

(01:56:37):
I think if if there's some bordling that happens this weekend,
and I think Tom Conflin says, I'll give you a
four or five or whatever for him, I believe they
do that. I believe they make that trade, they're going
to draft a quarterback. I just it's hard for me
to fathom a scenario where they're picking this high. And look,
maybe they go through the process and they don't think
any of them are worthy of it, but I've heard

(01:56:57):
enough that, like, I don't believe that's the case. So
I think they're looking at this as there the way.
You know, they didn't have that many bad seasons and
then Eli kind of fell in their lap. I mean,
I know they had to make a trade with the Chargers,
but they were in, you know, with it, had to
move up from the thirtieth spot to make that trade.
They look at themselves as an organization that will not
be picking this high again for a long long time.
And that running back may be special and he may

(01:57:19):
take the league by storm, but they've got to find
a quarterback. And I believe that's the direction they're going.
And you know, I don't know that you need to
have a band aid quarterback making nineteen million a year,
you know, I mean, I don't know why. What I mean.
McCallen did a hell of a job for the for
the Jets last year at six million plus. He ended
up earning a close to another two and incentive, and

(01:57:40):
that's ten million reel dollars you can spend making the
rest of your roster better. I don't know that you
gotta play the kid right away, but again I don't
I don't know that you want to have that whole
ELI s and then it's like a whole another thing
whenever they said ELI right, like that'll be like if
it's Josh McCollen or you know it's Alex Smith or whatever,
like it's not like you're recarrying that wound open again.

(01:58:03):
I would move on from him and my hunches. That's
what they do, alright. Last thing, Green Bay Packers kick
Ted Thompson upstairs. It feels like it feels like a
big thing, a really big thing. What's that regime look like?
When the when the music stops. I think at the
end of the day, russ Ball probably ends up being
the person who sort of has the sexiest title, and

(01:58:24):
I guess is sort of replaces Ted. Although that they
may you know, they've got some other younger guys. They're
more traditional personnelside guys, and maybe one of them um
end up getting a promotion out of it as well.
But my if you maybe guests right now, I would
say russ Ball ends up, you know, as the guy
who's now in charge. Um, either Brian Gutenkurst or Elliott

(01:58:50):
Wolf end up elsewhere, and maybe Doug Wally ends up
there in the role. Alonzo Highsmith used to have fascinating
Stuffologjason and lack him for on Twitter. Read the stuff
at CBS Sports dot dot com. Of course you can
see them on CBS and their coverage of the a
f C playoffs over the weekend. J l C thanks
so much, man, have a good week. Body in through
the games. We definitely will. A former m VP is

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when you um take a breath and you saw the

(01:59:34):
Patriots thing like you wanted to be like, oh, they
hate each other. Belichick is gonna quit, Brady's gonna keep
playing until he's like eighty years old, and and then
the more you get to see, you're like, yeah, you know,
lots of lots of people don't like you, don't have
to don't love everybody who work for you, play for

(01:59:55):
The owner doesn't always get along with the coach. The
owner sometimes oversteps is bounds and maybe this ends up
costing the Patriots the next ten years. I read the
story and I'm kind of like Jason Lacham for like, yeah,
I'm not saying it's not good reporting, or it's not
interesting storytelling, or it doesn't paint a picture. They didn't

(02:00:18):
know that it existed, right, Like Colin Coward has been
Collins deal is like, look, this is Belichick trying to
burn it to the ground. He's mad because they chose
Brady over Garoppolo, and he wants to leave it in
terrible shapes that everybody understands how great he was, Like that,
that's not really the picture I saw painted, And maybe

(02:00:39):
that is accurate. But the picture that I saw painted
was one where you know, there's some dysfunction there, there's
some distrust there. Doesn't mean you can't win a championship
this year, especially with home field advantaged throughout the a
f C playoffs. Let's get to the press. The Press

(02:01:01):
this season make tough jobs easy with free loaned tool
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Let's get through it. Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was named
the Associated Press All Pro First Team Quarterback today. Ram
said six players on that All Pro first team, three

(02:01:24):
of one of them came on special teams, but otherwise
he had Todd Gurley getting honors. The scene with Aaron
Donald and Andrew Whitworth. I'm waiting for Tom Brady to
to go up with a sheet of paper that he's
an All Pro and do it to a Bill Belichick. Yeah,
I wasn't a Patriot Player of the Week, but I
was First Team All Pro. I got a number. How
do you like them? Apples? Now? I don't know if

(02:01:46):
that's gonna happen. It could be a good precursor to
who the m v P is as well. More times
than not in recent history, if you're the first team quarterback,
you're usually the league's most valuable player. Snoop Dogg's gonna
perform at halftime of the Rams Falcon Game one Falcons
game on Saturday night at the Colosseum. I like that.
You know, Stoop was watching when I was hosting the Herd,
Snoop was watching Big Snoop Dogg guy. I thought he's

(02:02:08):
a Steeler guy. Though. Huh. Anyway, that's something maybe you'll have.
We we legal now in California. I'm not say I'm
not saying. I'm not proposing that Snoop will be Stoop
will be smoking on stage, but Snoop will probably be
smoking on stage. The replica jerseys worn by Lo Angelo
and LaMelo Ball in Lithuanias sold out on Amazon in

(02:02:29):
five minutes. Jerseys were sent to Amazon by the team,
LaMelo wearing jersey number one, lo Angelo wearing number three. Yeah,
somebody's got a Gino Smith Jets jersey somewhere too. Backing
out there and pressed that the press, I think the
idea that they had to give LaVar Ball of jersey
is just the funniest thing ever. Right, if that didn't

(02:02:50):
prove that this is a clown show, I really don't
know what it is like. No, this is legitimen basketball team, Like, yeah,
then you gave a LaVar ball, like a nine nine jersey.
You know he's gonna wear it and try and check
into the game, don't you chick out? Fox Sports One,
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