January 19, 2018 • 43 mins
Doug discusses Le'Veon Bell showing up late on game day against the Jaguars in the playoffs and why the Steelers aren't the only team in the NFL dealing with this problem. He also tells you who he likes in the NFC between Vikings QB Case Keenum and Eagles QB Nick Foles. Plus former NFL Head Coach and FS1 Analyst Eric Mangini joins the show and tells Doug whether the Jaguars defense can stop an injured Tom Brady.
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we have a ton to get to metric ton actually
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to get to, which I don't know. Is a metric
ton bigger than uh uh than a ton in pounds?
I really don't know about that one. Numb I haven't
really thought about measuring. Here's what I do know. You
think you've got problems. Everybody's got problems, right. It's one
of the things that I find enjoyable about reality TV.
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I understand that reality TV is not always the truest reality,
but when I watch other families, other relationships, I start
to think, you know what, I kind of feel normal.
Maybe that's the idea. They look abnormal. Some of it
is because the conflicts are made to be even bigger
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than they are in reality, and your conflicts appear to
be much smaller, and their issues, some of them are relatable.
So when you watch reality television a lot of times,
there's some things that you can draw from and some
things that just make you feel okay about your own
issues at home. But what's I find fascinating about this
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levy on Bell story. So if you just um tuning
into sports radio for the first time today, you're nationals portrait.
You guys, go local until you get me, or you
may have missed this story. Apparently Levy on Bell, who
of course has been suspended a couple of times. We
say for drugs, but it's it's for weed. Again. That
doesn't mean it's okay when you know you're gonna be
tested for weed. But I do think that most of
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us in reality, No, this is more of a discipline issue,
more of an IQ test when you test. When you
test positive for weed, you're a dumbass. You just are.
In the NFL, everyone knows you're going to get tested once.
If you pass that test before the season begins, they
won't test you the rest of the year. So if
you failed a drug test one, that means you failed
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one previously. So you failed one and then they told
you that we're gonna test you all the time. Now,
then you feel another one. The first one that you
failed proved that you're an idiot. Everyone in the league
knows this. This is not a secret. I'm not breaking
any news. Failing an initial weed test is an i
Q test. It's not really a drug test. But whatever.
He's been suspended for weed before, all right, so not
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the sharpest knife in the drawer. Okay, great running back,
but remember held out this year because he wants a
new contract. He's been injured before, injured, suspended, held out.
And then we come to learn not only did he
show up late for their final walk through of the season,
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but he showed up late for the actual game. Uh
coauughlin time. Tom Coughlin gets uh credit for this in
the NFL, but the truth is that there's lots of
old coaches that have this rule. Fifteen minutes early is
in fact on time. So he was an hour and
fifteen minutes late. If you go by Coughlin time. Here's
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Levian Bell, who clearly lacks discipline. Now some of you
would say, oh, Steelers are a mess, and I can't
help but agree with you. And Todd Helly never got
along with Ben Roethlisberger. Antonio Brown made his know of
how much money he wanted, and even after the Facebook
thing which was in the locker room, which showed a
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lack of team discipline, last year he got paid, he
got a new contract. Levian Bell held out and um, like,
look that the team still has there, you know what
to the fire because he's still the best running back
in the league. See, you have this super talented duo
of Brown and Bell and the quarterback who didn't get
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along with the O C doesn't really jibe with uh,
some of the younger players. Some of the way guys
are doing things. Talked about retirement kind of does the
passive aggressive thing. And the head coach who's suddenly now
taking a lot of heat but hasn't held all these
guys accountable. It seems like a it seems like a
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situation that's less than ideal. But then hold on, you
take a breath. You're like, wait, last week we were
talking about the Patriots and how the owner, the quarterback,
and the coach aren't seeing eye to eye as far
as who they should keep and who they should get
rid of. The Kansas City Chiefs, who for the first
month of the season, we're the best team in football.
In the last month the season before the playoffs were
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in the conversation of the best team in football. As
they always do lose early in the playoffs. That's what
Andy Reid's team does. They're likely to jettison Alex Smith
like they have a quarterback issue. They think they have
a guy who has star potential, but he's only played
in started in one game in the National Football League.
The Tennessee Titans won their first round game and summarily
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fired their coach. The Buffalo Bills got to the playoffs
for the first time in eighteen years, fired their offensive coordinator,
and they don't really have a quarterback. The Jacksonville Jaguars
should taken on the New England Patriots, and Blake Portals
is their quarterback just because he's been their quarterback for
no other reason at all. So my point is this,
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the Pittsburgh thing is interesting. The Pittsburgh thing is a
bit of a mess. Pittsburgh did score forty two points.
Pittsburg Steel at least to this point, has Antonio Brown,
has Levy On Bell, has Ben Roethlisberger, and has shown
the ability to go deep in the playoffs and to
win super Bowls with their quarterback. They have things others
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would dream of. And yes they got it. They got problems,
but guess what, everybody's got problems. When I look at
the Levy On Bell story, I'm like, man, this feels
like Odell Beckham Jr. Park two right, Odell Beckham Jr.
Superstar talent missed most of the year because of injury.
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But there's the The concerns in New York are has
his ego grown so out of control that not only
does he want to be paid at a level above
that of even the best wide receiver, but if you
pay him, you're only making him more entitled, more empowered,
so that the lack of discipline he already has in
terms of getting along with others wanting the ball, uh
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penalty's because he gets into it with other cornerbacks. All
the little things that he does that take away from
his ridiculous talent. Why would you stop if you get
a huge contract and somebody says, don't do that again,
but then they give you all the money in the world.
That this is actions, not words. But when I see
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the Steelers have these kind of issues, I think a
lot less of the issues that the Patriots have. I
just do. Yeah, Patriots got some issues. It's not gonna
end well with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft.
And it's not you know, their offensive coordinator is gonna
be gone, their defensive coordinators gonna be gone. How their
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linebackers coach has been interviewing for head coaching jobs in
college and coordinator jobs in the ENF. It feels like
like the last one out of New England. Make sure
you turn the lights off, because there'll be nobody left.
But I read this levy on Bell story and I'm like, Okay,
that's why the this is a good reason why this
Dealers never seem to achieve the level of success or
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the level of dominance success they had, dominance they did
not have in spite of their talent. It's because of
things like discipline and that levy on Belt is so good,
He's been able to get away with so much. But um,
I also realized, much like when I watch reality TV,
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we got issues? Right, Like Ramos is as nice a
human being as I know. He's been married eighteen years.
I guarantee that if I told him like the issues
me and my wife have. Like, man, we got one
kid that doesn't love her school, another kid he kind
of into it, another one doesn't really have any down
enough friends. We just don't know what we're doing. Do
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we like where we lived? Like, oh, you know, we
we we picked the place that we wanted to live,
even though it's far from more because it too far.
Do we want to move close? We move close and
move away from family and friends and all this stuff like,
oh you got some issues? Like yeah, guess what, everybody's
got issues. And I don't know if that was the
true intent of reality TV, but that's always my takeaway.
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I watched and go like, yeah, I kind of feel normal.
Yeah I can. We argue every now and again, Right,
That's what happens to. People come over our house and
I'll get onto my kids and my wife Aye will
say like, sorry, Doug, get I don't like it when
you raise your voice. I'm like, look, they all have kids,
they all you got kids. You're gonna yell at your kids,
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because it's like they do not they do not listen otherwise,
especially now when you can't beat him like we were
beating all right. You know what my dad would have done.
He would have he would have smacked me. But I
can't smack you. That's no longer acceptable. So I'm just
gonna raise my voice. Dealers got some problems. They need
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to solve them. It's a hard one. I talked to
a couple of NFL people and they're like, Levy on
Bell is the best this position, Antonio Brown is the
best of disposition. There's other guys that are really really good.
Those are the two best. And the second that they say, like, hey,
we're gonna move on from Levy on Bell, somebody else
is gonna give him that big check. Be sure to
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three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. You can tell me all
you want that people, I oh, I want the Patriots
to lose, But do you really want Blake Bortles and
the Jaguars to be in the Super Olver? The Patriots, like, no,
the best possible scenario is probably Vikings Patriots great home
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field advantage. There's unbelievable stories across the board for the
Minnesota Vikings. It does not diminish the stories of the
Philadelphia Eagles, but I mean case Keenum right with the
with Houston and the owner makes them play him in
Houston with the Rams and he looked so inept at
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rams Off was so inept. You know, he's really the
third string quarterback there is. He was a placeholder until
Teddy Bridgewater could get back healthy. Sam Bradford plays a
great game and then isn't right the rest of the year,
and now he's the best possible option that they have,
the only guy with UH with a healthy body, although
he hurt his knee in college, and then of course
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they lost their first round pick Dalvin Cook. And running
back they're running their wide receiver if he plays Adam
Theelan's got a bad back, but he's like the NFL
version of Rudy. So some incredible stories there, But more
than anything, a home field advantage. UH. Super Bowl generally
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doesn't have a great atmosphere all the time. That would
be as good at atmosphere as you'd find, and you
and that way like, look at Miss Minnesota pulls the upset,
you'd still get huge numbers. Whereas though you're gonna get
a Matt Monster number, whoever's in the super Bowl, if
it's Jacksonville and Philadelphia won't be a great number. Jacksonville,
Minnesota won't be great for by Super Bowl standards. You understand,
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you know what I'm saying, Okay, And the reason that
you want to see the Patriots just because they have
an all time grade at quarterback. And we talked about
this yesterday where we said, hey, you know, it's not
a I mean, it's the easiest road you're ever going
to get if you're the Pats. But what's lost in
this conversation, Yes, do you need a franchise quarterback. Sure,
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because the franchise quarterback will keep you in the game,
We'll make you viable. What you really need is a
great defense. That's what you really need. And um, what
if I told you that the defenses playing this weekend.
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I had a conversation with Tony Romo. Tony Romo obviously
you've heard of him, but this is back when he
was with the Cowboys, and he's like, hey, look you
want a little tip, Sure, nobody doesn't have a top
ten defense is winning Super Bowl and happening, it's not.
And so while we go crazy about the franchise quarterbacks,
and franchise quarterbacks, much like Aaron Rodgers, can lift you
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to a height that your team should not achieve. The
fact is that that height is not a Super Bowl win.
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We're joined by the Blazer's head coach, Terry Stotts. He
joins us on the Dougautu Show on Fox Sports Radio. Coach,
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how are you? I'm doing well, Doug? How are you
doing good? I was up in Portland and Eugene and
Corvallis the past day and a half or so. I
did not I flew in and I drove right to Eugene,
did my show, when saw shoot arounds? And then when
did a game? So I apologize. I know you had
a game last night against the Pacers, but I when
you come to l A, I will buy you a
cup of coffee whatever you'd like. Um, how do you
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think you played? I'm sorry? How do you think you played?
Last night. Uh, you know what, we played pretty well. Um,
you know, myths, you're gonna have ebbs and flows. But uh,
I like the way we finished the game. In the
fourth quarter. We held Indiana of twelve points and uh
made some good players down the stretch. The third quarter
was a little a little ragged, but uh, it's good
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to win at home. You know, we had a tough
spell earlier in the season with the home losing streets.
So we've won a few in a row at home,
and that's that's been encouraging. What do you count that for? Why?
Why the struggles at home? That's not normally, that's not
the norm in the NBA. Well, Uh, you know, when
we lost six in a row, I think all were
against basically playoff teams, So I think the quality of
the opponent had something to do with it. We lost
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a couple of close ones that um you know that
usually makes a difference in in your records. But uh,
during that stretch, we just, uh we fell flat on
a couple of games New Orleans and Washington and just
didn't pull it through. Yeah. But and then and then
you know, you go and do things like win in
Oklahoma City and and do so without Dame like that's
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so it's it's it's kind of confounding to watched like
some of the results based upon the personnel and some
teams like, look, you're not gonna play your starters, you're
on the road, You're gonna get beat. How do you like,
how do you handle that? Some nights you're not, like
if you don't have Damian Lillard, and yet you go
and beat the thunder And yet there are times in
which you've had your full allotment of players and haven't
played nearly after your potential. Well, I think you see
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it across the league this year. You have upsets like
you look at New Orleans goes and beat wins in Boston,
then loses in Atlanta. I mean things like that. Things
like that happen. Um. Everybody has injuries. It seems like
a lot of top players have been out at one
time and another, and you gotta figure out ways to
win games. And uh, sometimes you keep playing the way
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you normally want to play, and sometimes you have to
make adjustments. And during the stress that Damien was out,
we I think we went five and two, and as
you mentioned in the in the opening, Shabaz Napier has
been playing very well and different guys have stepped up.
Alfred Camino has had some really good games for c J.
When Dame was out, one us a couple of games.
So I think, uh, when when one of your top
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players is out, like when James Hart is out, other
guys just have to rise to the occasion, not necessarily
doing more than what they're capable of doing, but just
doing what they are capable of. Damian Um he voiced
some of his frustration I think with the All Star
voting more more than anything. Going back, uh to last week,
you know, Chris Haynes wrote the article I've gotten frustrated.
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Here's the quote. IVE gotten frustrated just the fact that
feels like I've always gotten to be the fall guy.
Every other guy has been deserving. So he's not calling
out other people. He's just like, hey, look, it's really hard,
and why am I the guy that doesn't make the
All Star team? And and Terry you know, we go
back to last year and he was the guy who
came out in the office season and said, Hey, if
we don't ever win a title, I'm okay with it,
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because what I when we've been able to do here,
how they support me, how I get to play achieving,
you know, trying to be better and better with you know,
if this is our lot in life, it's okay. So
it's it's kind of saying one thing and then saying
another thing. How have you handled that frustration which he's
allowed to become public about. Well, you know, the last
two years, I think he was deserving and I know
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how important he was to our team that he was
very deserving and showed it. Unfortunately, he showed it even
more so after the All Star break when we made
good runs in the last thirty games to make the playoffs,
great comebacks, um come back in the second half last
games to to make the playoffs. Unfortunately that was after
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the All Star break. Uh but I've always I think
winning is has always been a factor in in All
Star voting. And frankly, we didn't have the record when
votes were into we're a losing team. We're six seven
games under five hundred, and I could understand it. Now
this year, I don't think there's any question that he
should be an All Star because, uh, you know, are
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he's carrying our team were three or four games over
five hundred. We're right in the mix with a bunch
of other teams, and his numbers support that. And that's
just the that's just the the objective stuff. It's not
even the subjective things of being the leader of the
team and being the franchise player and and doing all
the things that he does too with his teammates. So
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I understand the frustration, you know, to your question, I
think everybody has goals and wants to make an All
Star team or whatever whatever their goals are, and uh,
there's frustration when you don't achieve them. I guess here
would be my thing. I don't don't know. Can you
sell them on? Hey look man, you already got your
shoe right, you already wrote well well respected. And if
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they want to stub you, fine, like take the time
off and actually get rested. So you say, you kick
ask the second half of the year and then you
can use it to motivate you. But you can also
use it to rest because, as you know, when you
go down to that All Star thing, especially this year
it's in l A, guys are going out, there's all
kinds of different stuff you have to do. He has
to do for Adidas, like this actually could be a good.
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Is there any way to spin it to a guy
who's as competitive as Damian Lillard? That could be actually
a good thing If he gets snubbed, Oh probably, But
he's done that. He's been there, done that the last
two years. So why not make the All Star team? Yeah?
I got you? How do you? I feel like you
mentioned the injuries for big name players, and obviously Kauai
is still out. He's had the thigh thing been very
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limited this season. Other guys like Damien have missed different
amounts of time. I felt like up until a couple
of weeks ago, the new schedule had really benefits, Like
the quality of play was better in the league. Give
me the sense of a guy who played in the
league and coaching the league. Do you think there's a
discernible difference or do you think there's still the attrition
of all these games and all this travel and all
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the competitiveness of the league and guys are still getting hurt. Well,
first of all, uh, just a correct I never played
in the league, so I played in I played in
the Tupper League, I played in the c B A.
But no, the schedule, Uh, the schedule has certainly reduced
the back to backs, the travel has been easier, there
is more rest time. I think the league has done
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a very good job with that. I think the level
of play has been I think there's a lot of
I don't know if parody is the right word, but
I think there's a lot of competitiveness out there. Um,
and you know you're still gonna have uh, you know,
playoff teams non playoff teams, but you look at the
teams in the West and how competitive that playoff really
is right now, and same thing in the East. It's
uh And I can't I don't know whether to attribute
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to the schedule or not, but I do think the
league uh looked at that situation handle it really well.
All right. Uh. The Blazers have announced that Jason Quicklin
it covers the team for you guys for NBC for
the local NBC Comcast affiliate. H He just tweeted out
that you guys are going to you sign a consulting
agreement with and former NBA ref Down Baden, who's gonna
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assist player on who assist players on rules of the game,
points of emphasis, and analyzing officiating data from the NBA.
There's been a lot of talk that the officials are
different in how they handle the players, and and that's
what's caused uh kind of a riff between the play
current players and the officials. Some of these younger refs
have a little bit more confidence and calling technical fouls
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and how they call a game. Do you notice that
or is that just players being a little bit more sensitive?
I think, uh, throughout time that there's uh, you know,
the player referee relationship has evolved just a lot of
I think a lot of the conflict, um might even
be socially. Uh go to our society where everybody has
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a voice and can free to express their opinion, and
everybody's looking for blame and everything is out uh out
there for public consumption. So I think that's part of it.
But I certainly don't. I think it's a two way street,
players and referees the relationship. Anytime you have relationships, it
goes both ways. I think the player's interaction with referees
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and vice versa. UM, I don't know how contentious it is.
I just know that, uh that there it's more. It's
more noticeable because of media and social media. I think
just that there's more when things happen, everybody knows about it.
So I don't know how much has changed. I know
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years ago, players and referee still got into it. It
just wasn't on Sports Center. Do you guys have a
backdoor entrance into your locker room in Portland? We do
not know? Nobody is breaching our locker room? Is that?
Is that? Have you seen or heard of anything like that? Again?
Like that? That's I guess my question. Um, Like, let
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me ask you this is were any referees involved in
that breach? No? No, no, But I'm just I'm I'm
asking more for again for your your vast experience in
the league. Um, Like, this does seem like kind of
cb A stuff though, right Like I was in the
I B A, the A B A. I got my
last game in France. I'm actually suspended six games if
I ever go back to France and play because there
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was a fight like it it does. I know that
guys say meet me outside, but generally guys don't meet
them outside when it's in the NBA. But like you've
been in this league for a long time, him, Um,
is this more normal and just being reported or is
something like what happened in l A different than the past. Well,
I don't, uh, certainly, as you mentioned, I think scuffles
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in the hallway, postgame account encounters. I know back I
don't know how many years ago when uh Portland's Portland's
was leaving Golden State and they're being chased by a player,
and you know, so there have been player player issues
throughout the years. Um, but I've never, like I said,
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since I've been here, there there have been those those conflicts,
but no one has actually entered an opposing locker room
that I'm aware of. Um. Okay, So look, I read
the Oregonian. Um, I know that there's a great passion
for you guys to take kind of that next step.
What are your thoughts on your roster and whether or
not this will be the roster that you head into
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the playoffs with. Well, I you know, I'm not gonna
comment on any trade rumors. I'm the coach, and I
like our roster, and I think we have gotten better.
At our first forty games, first fourty games, we struggled offensively,
which I didn't think would be a concern for us,
and our defense was pretty solid, which was what our
goal was. But I anticipate coach in this team, and
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you know, you never say never as far as roster management,
and Neil o'sha has done a great job with the
roster and I'm I'm happy with it and I'm I'm
glad that we're we're going in the right direction. So um,
I think that's the best way for me to answer.
That's that's the fairest way you can possibly answered. Listen,
really appreciate you. I've listened. If I were you, though,
somebody said I played the NBA and I'd only played
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in the c b A, I would have just taken it.
I mean, who's gonna know, right? But you know what
I can't. You know? Then then I would get criticized for,
you know, endorsing something that wasn't true, and I, in
good conscience I could not do that. You never got
a tende. No, that was my goal, you know, playing
in Great Falls, Montana for three years, all I wanted
was attend That's all I wanted. You couldn't get it.
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You couldn't get it. Couldn't get it. Man. But how
about the Big Twelve? But how about the Big Twelve
this year? Pretty amazing they're gonna get are They're gonna
get nine teams in the in the tournament. I don't
think nine. I think it's gonna end up being more
in the seven variety. UM. Oklahom States surprising in in
what they've done. Uh not TCU lost to point guard
Jalen Fisher. Uh for people don't know Terry was very
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good player at Oklahoma. Have you seen have you seen
Trey Young play it? I have you know? Do two rules?
I can't comment on individual players, but perhaps seen Oklahoma
play and I enjoy watching them play. Yeah, I mean,
and the Steph curization of basketball is pretty obvious. Man,
I know you can't talk about it, but but like
they're not the same, but gosh, there's some similar the
shots that he takes in the way in which he plays,
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like oh my gosh. And frankly, the Damon Lilliard Damian lillardization.
You know, just how the floor Like did I do
do you do you think? Do we do a good
enough job in the media of understanding how the game
has evolved? Like we just I think people just say, well,
they shoot more threes. But but it's not like this.
Everything about the game is so vastly different in the
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last ten years. It's really hard to explain. And I
don't think we do a good enough job of it
when we broadcast. Is that is that fair? I would
I would say that's fair. You know. I don't watch
a lot of college games, but even the but the
pro game, like the space and the game is amazing,
how you know. And it's when you talk about just
getting threes, it's how you get those threes, you know.
And people say going inside out with the post. Well
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now it's inside out with penetration and uh taking a
quick three in transition, which people have never thought about doing.
And you know, if anybody would look back at uh,
you know, pick and roll, how that's evolved because in
the eighties there were if you look at those old
games on NBA TV from the eighties, there weren't picking rolls.
There's a lot of movement, a lot of running. But
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the game certainly has evolved, and I think personally for
the better because I think it's, uh, it's more of
a skill game. Yeah, you were That's the whole things.
You were born too soon, right, and you're stretch for
right now, you'd be a power forward now, right like
instead of trying to be a three, you'd be a
four and and you'd get get you the green light
and playing your system. Just stand out there in the
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corner and have guys dime you up and hit three. Terry,
thanks so much for doing this. Next time in Portland,
I'll stop in or in l A. I'll buy you
a cup of coffee. All right, sounds good? Always a pleasure, Doug,
Thanks Terry. Terry Stotts joining us old Big eight guy
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we try and play you a portion of a previous
show on Fox Sports One or Fox Sports Radio. Chris
Carter is on a show called First Things First, he
Nick Wright, Jenna Wolf. It's on six storty to nine
thirty a m. Eastern time on Sirius XM eighty three
and Fox Sports One. He had this to say about
quarterback play in the NFC channel. Not only is case
corn they're trying to win an NFC Patrick's Pat Summers
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trying to go back there and send the Massachu because
he has history in Philadelphia. I think he has the
Giant's job, So I believe that his ability to develop
quarterbacks is very important. He's gonna get Case to play
an aggressive style. They have a very good defense, and
he has enough tape to be able to trust Case.
That's the big difference. If you ask me who's the
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better quarterback in this game, Case Keenum is a better
quarterback right now, then Nick Foles is. So I'm less
concerned about the Case because he has a style. Nick
Foles is trying not to lose the Eagles the game
I can. I tend to think that's that's accurate. Like
my issue is that, look, each guy has a has
two notable flaws, right case golet's start with Case Keenum.
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Case Keenum. Or he's tiny and doesn't have a great
arm I think we all kind of know that, right
and I Rama's you know that probably better than anybody
because you're a Rams fan. And even though that offense
is limited, the offense did expose that, especially outside. If
you thought armstraight was an issue last week's inside in
the cold weather of Philadelphia, it's going to be a
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bigger issue. So lack of size and arm strength is
a problem. But the other problem is that he does
kind of have a little bit of a gun slinger
mentality there, right, Like he's the guy with a bad
arm that doesn't know he has a bad arm um.
On the other side, on the other side, you have
Nick Foles, who does have a good arm um and
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is a pretty good athlete. But he's he was flit
into an offense to which the starting quarterback is a
much better athlete. He is square peg in the roundhold.
They've had to adjust things to now. His problem is
the opposite. He doesn't really have confidence, Like he lacks
this When things go bad, he kind of goes into
a shell and and they got to kind of play
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around him, so they kind of have He actually has
a much better arm He's a much better pure pocket
quarterback because of his size and his arm strength then
case Keenum is. But he's the guy with the arm
but not a great quarterback, not mobile and knows his
own limitations, but then allows himself to mentally be limited
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by That makes sense, So I agree and I kind
of disagree. Here's a crazy thought that no one has
brought up that I was thinking about driving in today.
Who's the backup quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, Like the
best quarterback who's available this weekend in Philadelphia is Sam Bradford.
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And like, Look, you may not like Sam Bradford because
he got fifty million dollars out of college at Oklahoma.
You may not like Sam Bradford because once they drafted
Carson Wentz, he saw the handwriting on the wall and said, hey,
check please, I'd like to get out of here. You
may not like Sam Bradford because after the first week
of the season this year you're all in. And his knee,
he's got a bone spur and and he's probably just
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not right. But Sam Bradford can throw that ball. And
if you've ever like look, part of the Vikings thing
is so many guys that they've had have been haven't
been well regarded. I don't want case Keen to fail.
But if God forbids something happened to Case Keenum, I
can't imagine what an incredible moment it might be for
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Sam Bradford, who was less than beloved by Philadelphia Eagles fans,
to come in there and lead a team to an
NFC championship. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Cleveland Brown's New York Jets, longtime assistant New England Patriots.
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Of course you'll see him on Fox Sports covering the
National Football League. Um, Eric, let's start with with Brady's hand.
You know, everything that goes on in New England, we're
we're hearing, uh that it was a knuckle, the right
knuckle hit a helmet, maybe the screw uh that you know,
screws in somebody's face mask, whatever. There's a lot of blood,
some stitches, but it was the outside of the hand.
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He's wearing gloves today at the press conference. Uh, what's
your thoughts in the likehood it affects Tom Brady this Sunday, Well,
it's it's pretty amazing to me that he hit his
hand on at anybody's helmet. One of the things that
we start on from the O T A S the earliest,
the earliest time that were on the field is to
always stay away from the quarterback. I mean, that's priest
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over and over and over again. But it did in
terms of how much it's gonna affect him. Um, you know,
I think it's gonna be something that that's annoying to
him throughout the course of the game. I'd say that
he's probably gonna be frustrated by the fact that he
had the misreps during the week that that he normally
would have taken so that he didn't aggravate it. I
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don't think it will be the difference in the game
by any stretch, but I think it will be one
of those annoying things that that he's just gonna have
to work through from a pain perspective. Early. All right,
let's get to let's get to the game itself. Um,
like those of us Layman out there, Eric, we sit
there and go, all right, well, Brady just forced him
off the spot, right, like force him to move. He's different.
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That's what Atlanta did in the Super Bowl in the
first half. That that's what Miami did when you didn't
have Rob Gronkowski, Like be physical because they're they're now
kind of like the Colts used to be a lot
of timing based stuff, right, be physical and forced them
on the spot. I know it's a simplistic way of
looking at it in terms of all the schematics of
the NFL, But does Jacksonville have. Is that their style
because because what the Giants were able to do to
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the Patriots twice the Super Bowl, that's what the Giants
have always done. Is that how the Jaguars play? Well, Yes,
yes it is. And when when you look at this,
you look at the front of that Jacksonville has may
are able to get to the quarterback with four which
is a key thing when you're playing New England because
blitzing really isn't isn't a very effective path to Tom
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And then they've got linebackers that can run. That helps too.
They've got quarters outside that can match up. Now, all
those things are great for Jacksonville, but they they do
what they do type team, which which is also good.
And there's that simplicity to it, so guys know what
they're doing. They can play fast. That that's great until
you run into a team that can figure out something
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to do against you that works and and New England
will and and the question is what's Jacksonville's second pitch?
And I don't see that. I don't see how they're
gonna be able to deal with the inside part of
the field that New England is able to exploit so effectively.
Between the slot receiver and Grondkowski, that to me is
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going to be an issue. Or the other thing about
in New England is they take what you give them.
So if you're gonna give him a bunch of hitches,
they'll take them, and they'll they'll take them all day.
Then they put pressure on you this no huddle and
and catch you in things. And then once they catch
you in something, they just keep hitting you. They keep
going after you. And I'm not sure if if Jacksonville
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is gonna be able to handle handle all the things
that New England's going to be able to attack them with.
Do you like the idea of putting Jalen Ramsey on drunk?
I don't think it's I don't think it's what they do.
I think it'll it would probably be conproductive. You see
that happens sometimes in the postseason, Doug, where teams change
and they want to they want to incorporate new schemes.
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But it's not something that guys are used to doing
throughout the course of the season. And so when you
when you try to go to that, they can't figure
out adjustments, they can't figure out where they're supposed to
hit in the running game. You know, maybe on obvious
passing downs where you're you know, third down, you know
that they've they've got to throw the ball. You could
go and get that matchup. But to do it down
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and down out against multiple personnel groups probably too hard
for him at this point. Okay, uh, look, Jacksonville, they
obviously want to protect borders and buy protect him. I
don't mean just block form. I mean they want to
protect him from himself from the big mistake. But he
did make some big throws. My thing is though, that like, look,
we have enough data on Blake Bortles to know who
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he is and to know that we don't have a
ton of confidence. And I kind of think, like, if
you go by points allowed, New England's fifth in points
allowed in the NFL, their number one since I think
Week five, like the defense is actually pretty good. They
allow a lot of yards, but they're also on the
field a lot of snaps. Um. It seems to me
that we're trying, we want so badly to change who
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Blake Bortles is. Like he's a below average quarterback? Is
he not? Well? I imagine going into the game, New
England is not gonna let the running game beat him,
So they're gonna handle for Net. Now, the second part
of this running game is Bortles, and that's that's where
he's He's actually heard a lot of teams and been
able to sustain drives is with his feet. But if
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you can force him to win the game and then
force him to win the game and in obvious passing situations,
he was really effective last week because they were able
to run the ball off running the ball, They're able
to hit the play action, they were able to move
the pocket, They're able to do a lot of things
on their terms. I don't think you're gonna see the
missed fits that you saw with Pittsburgh in the Running game,
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where these huge holes for for Net to run through.
England's gonna take that stuff away in it and you're right,
they're gonna say, okay, can you beat us with Blake
Bortles as a true passer? Um, you hear about the
stuff out of Pittsburgh and how do you mean, like,
how do you handle it? Like I know that every
every you know fans like, well, just get rid of
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Levian Bell. He wants to show up an hour before
games and miss miss most to walk through. You get
rid of him. On the other hand, he's super, super talented, right,
you can't let him walk, Like, how do you how
do you handle Levian Bell if you're the Steelers. The look,
that's an ongoing problem that every team faces, and you
face that problem when you draft guys that have an
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extremely high amount of talent and can produce on Sunday
in a in a significant way. But then there's a
bunch of other issues that you have to deal with
to get him to Sunday or to get him to
the next season, and organizationally, you just ask a question
whether or not it's worth it. Um Typically, when you
pay those guys and you give them a lot of
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guaranteed money and long term contracts, those situations don't get better,
they get worse because you have less leverage as an organization.
So collectively, you've got to make a decision, is there
something we're willing to deal with? Is there anything that
we can put in the contract to two help protect
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the downside? But once you start paying guys at the
levels that that he's going to get paid at, or
any superstar gets paid at, the fines don't really they
aren't that big of a stick anymore. And You've got
to deal with the issue, and it's it's whether or
not you want to Eric Mangini joining us in the
dugout lip show, Let's go to the NFC. UM look,
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Folds is limited, but they hided they hid some of
those limitations last week as best they could and be
good Falcon's team at home. Um. You know, Keenum is limited,
but he's got some talent a wide receiver. I guess
some of it is, you know, limiting him from trying
to do something he can't do. What are his thoughts
in the quarterback matchup in the NFC Championship Game, Well,
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I think Foles is going to have a harder time.
Minnesota's defenses is really good and they're able to do
a lot of different things. They do a nice job
of disguising pressures. They're able to play man and man
really effectively. I got three number one draft picks in
the secondary. They can match up, you know, from from
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that perspective, and then they do a nice shot in
his own defense as well. The key thing for for
Minnesota is to be able to disrupt the timing and
the spacing of of Philly's routes. That's what they want
to do. They want to get guys to spots. They
wanted to be on time, and they want Foles to
get the ball out quickly. Being able to get up
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there and press those widery sievers that changes everything. Things
get cloudy, and now Foals has to make decisions that
you know, it's not your first read, it's your second read.
And to me, that's where they can they can force
him into into some mistakes. I think it's gonna be hard,
hard for him if they can make it a again,
a one dimensional game and not let J J. I
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a Um take over. Uh So it sounds like you
like Minnesota New England. I like. I like Minnesota New England.
I definitely do. The New England game is is so
interesting just because of the Tom Coughlin effect. You now
what I what. I love that Jacksonville did this week,
and to me is a great indication of the effect
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that Tom has on that team, or has had on
that organization. They bring in the left footed punter so
the punt returners can get a feel for what it's
like fielding those balls in the course of the week.
It's those little details that I think set those giant
teams apart. And you can see that in act. So
I I like that aspect of it. I like the
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fact that Tom has been able to do it in
the past. Um, I just don't think it's gonna be
enough at this point for them. What's the what's the
coaching higher that to you feels like the best fit
right because so much of it's about fit, fit, opportunity. Um,
you know the landscape of it. When you're seeing who
we assume is going to get a job and who
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has gotten a job, what's the one you're like that
one will work? One one that's really interesting is is
Josh McDaniel's going to Indianapolis with a guy like Andrew. Look,
I loved Andrew coming out of college that I've loved
what he's done in pro football. I know he's hit
some um you know, he's hit some roadblocks here, but
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I could see him being like Peyton Manning or like
Tom Brady. And I think Josh with that type of
quarterback talent and his ability to develop a system of
a really smart football around a quarterback like that, to me,
has a chance to be really successful for a long time.
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I guess the question is doesn't he have to know
that Andrew luck shoulders, okay, and no one seems to
know of Andrew luck shoulders. Okay, Yeah, that's that's you.
You never know. I'm sure they went into this season
thinking that his shoulder was going to be fine. You
know this year, you don't know, you don't know, And
then that's the leap of faith. Look at Miami with
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Ryan Tannehill. They thought his knee would hold up and
it goes out in in the preseason. You know, if
Tom Brady at this point hurts his hands, they get
rid of Jimmy Garoppolo. You're there's there's leaps of faith
that happened all the time. But if it is right,
and I would imagine Josh Field is pretty good about that.
If if that's where he's headed, that that pairing has
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a chance to do some good things. They are great stuff. Man. Wait,
I can't wait to catch up with you again. Talk
some football the meantime. Have a great weekend with the family.
And thanks for joining us, all right, thanks Doug, alright,
pleasures mind Eric Banji the Manginius joining us
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I really don't know about that one. Numb I haven't
really thought about measuring. Here's what I do know. You
think you've got problems. Everybody's got problems, right. It's one
of the things that I find enjoyable about reality TV.
(01:08):
I understand that reality TV is not always the truest reality,
but when I watch other families, other relationships, I start
to think, you know what, I kind of feel normal.
Maybe that's the idea. They look abnormal. Some of it
is because the conflicts are made to be even bigger
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than they are in reality, and your conflicts appear to
be much smaller, and their issues, some of them are relatable.
So when you watch reality television a lot of times,
there's some things that you can draw from and some
things that just make you feel okay about your own
issues at home. But what's I find fascinating about this
(01:54):
levy on Bell story. So if you just um tuning
into sports radio for the first time today, you're nationals portrait.
You guys, go local until you get me, or you
may have missed this story. Apparently Levy on Bell, who
of course has been suspended a couple of times. We
say for drugs, but it's it's for weed. Again. That
doesn't mean it's okay when you know you're gonna be
tested for weed. But I do think that most of
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us in reality, No, this is more of a discipline issue,
more of an IQ test when you test. When you
test positive for weed, you're a dumbass. You just are.
In the NFL, everyone knows you're going to get tested once.
If you pass that test before the season begins, they
won't test you the rest of the year. So if
you failed a drug test one, that means you failed
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one previously. So you failed one and then they told
you that we're gonna test you all the time. Now,
then you feel another one. The first one that you
failed proved that you're an idiot. Everyone in the league
knows this. This is not a secret. I'm not breaking
any news. Failing an initial weed test is an i
Q test. It's not really a drug test. But whatever.
He's been suspended for weed before, all right, so not
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the sharpest knife in the drawer. Okay, great running back,
but remember held out this year because he wants a
new contract. He's been injured before, injured, suspended, held out.
And then we come to learn not only did he
show up late for their final walk through of the season,
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but he showed up late for the actual game. Uh
coauughlin time. Tom Coughlin gets uh credit for this in
the NFL, but the truth is that there's lots of
old coaches that have this rule. Fifteen minutes early is
in fact on time. So he was an hour and
fifteen minutes late. If you go by Coughlin time. Here's
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Levian Bell, who clearly lacks discipline. Now some of you
would say, oh, Steelers are a mess, and I can't
help but agree with you. And Todd Helly never got
along with Ben Roethlisberger. Antonio Brown made his know of
how much money he wanted, and even after the Facebook
thing which was in the locker room, which showed a
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lack of team discipline, last year he got paid, he
got a new contract. Levian Bell held out and um, like,
look that the team still has there, you know what
to the fire because he's still the best running back
in the league. See, you have this super talented duo
of Brown and Bell and the quarterback who didn't get
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along with the O C doesn't really jibe with uh,
some of the younger players. Some of the way guys
are doing things. Talked about retirement kind of does the
passive aggressive thing. And the head coach who's suddenly now
taking a lot of heat but hasn't held all these
guys accountable. It seems like a it seems like a
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situation that's less than ideal. But then hold on, you
take a breath. You're like, wait, last week we were
talking about the Patriots and how the owner, the quarterback,
and the coach aren't seeing eye to eye as far
as who they should keep and who they should get
rid of. The Kansas City Chiefs, who for the first
month of the season, we're the best team in football.
In the last month the season before the playoffs were
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in the conversation of the best team in football. As
they always do lose early in the playoffs. That's what
Andy Reid's team does. They're likely to jettison Alex Smith
like they have a quarterback issue. They think they have
a guy who has star potential, but he's only played
in started in one game in the National Football League.
The Tennessee Titans won their first round game and summarily
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fired their coach. The Buffalo Bills got to the playoffs
for the first time in eighteen years, fired their offensive coordinator,
and they don't really have a quarterback. The Jacksonville Jaguars
should taken on the New England Patriots, and Blake Portals
is their quarterback just because he's been their quarterback for
no other reason at all. So my point is this,
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the Pittsburgh thing is interesting. The Pittsburgh thing is a
bit of a mess. Pittsburgh did score forty two points.
Pittsburg Steel at least to this point, has Antonio Brown,
has Levy On Bell, has Ben Roethlisberger, and has shown
the ability to go deep in the playoffs and to
win super Bowls with their quarterback. They have things others
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would dream of. And yes they got it. They got problems,
but guess what, everybody's got problems. When I look at
the Levy On Bell story, I'm like, man, this feels
like Odell Beckham Jr. Park two right, Odell Beckham Jr.
Superstar talent missed most of the year because of injury.
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But there's the The concerns in New York are has
his ego grown so out of control that not only
does he want to be paid at a level above
that of even the best wide receiver, but if you
pay him, you're only making him more entitled, more empowered,
so that the lack of discipline he already has in
terms of getting along with others wanting the ball, uh
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penalty's because he gets into it with other cornerbacks. All
the little things that he does that take away from
his ridiculous talent. Why would you stop if you get
a huge contract and somebody says, don't do that again,
but then they give you all the money in the world.
That this is actions, not words. But when I see
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the Steelers have these kind of issues, I think a
lot less of the issues that the Patriots have. I
just do. Yeah, Patriots got some issues. It's not gonna
end well with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft.
And it's not you know, their offensive coordinator is gonna
be gone, their defensive coordinators gonna be gone. How their
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linebackers coach has been interviewing for head coaching jobs in
college and coordinator jobs in the ENF. It feels like
like the last one out of New England. Make sure
you turn the lights off, because there'll be nobody left.
But I read this levy on Bell story and I'm like, Okay,
that's why the this is a good reason why this
Dealers never seem to achieve the level of success or
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the level of dominance success they had, dominance they did
not have in spite of their talent. It's because of
things like discipline and that levy on Belt is so good,
He's been able to get away with so much. But um,
I also realized, much like when I watch reality TV,
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we got issues? Right, Like Ramos is as nice a
human being as I know. He's been married eighteen years.
I guarantee that if I told him like the issues
me and my wife have. Like, man, we got one
kid that doesn't love her school, another kid he kind
of into it, another one doesn't really have any down
enough friends. We just don't know what we're doing. Do
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we like where we lived? Like, oh, you know, we
we we picked the place that we wanted to live,
even though it's far from more because it too far.
Do we want to move close? We move close and
move away from family and friends and all this stuff like,
oh you got some issues? Like yeah, guess what, everybody's
got issues. And I don't know if that was the
true intent of reality TV, but that's always my takeaway.
(09:09):
I watched and go like, yeah, I kind of feel normal.
Yeah I can. We argue every now and again, Right,
That's what happens to. People come over our house and
I'll get onto my kids and my wife Aye will
say like, sorry, Doug, get I don't like it when
you raise your voice. I'm like, look, they all have kids,
they all you got kids. You're gonna yell at your kids,
(09:31):
because it's like they do not they do not listen otherwise,
especially now when you can't beat him like we were
beating all right. You know what my dad would have done.
He would have he would have smacked me. But I
can't smack you. That's no longer acceptable. So I'm just
gonna raise my voice. Dealers got some problems. They need
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to solve them. It's a hard one. I talked to
a couple of NFL people and they're like, Levy on
Bell is the best this position, Antonio Brown is the
best of disposition. There's other guys that are really really good.
Those are the two best. And the second that they say, like, hey,
we're gonna move on from Levy on Bell, somebody else
is gonna give him that big check. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
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three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. You can tell me all
you want that people, I oh, I want the Patriots
to lose, But do you really want Blake Bortles and
the Jaguars to be in the Super Olver? The Patriots, like, no,
the best possible scenario is probably Vikings Patriots great home
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field advantage. There's unbelievable stories across the board for the
Minnesota Vikings. It does not diminish the stories of the
Philadelphia Eagles, but I mean case Keenum right with the
with Houston and the owner makes them play him in
Houston with the Rams and he looked so inept at
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rams Off was so inept. You know, he's really the
third string quarterback there is. He was a placeholder until
Teddy Bridgewater could get back healthy. Sam Bradford plays a
great game and then isn't right the rest of the year,
and now he's the best possible option that they have,
the only guy with UH with a healthy body, although
he hurt his knee in college, and then of course
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they lost their first round pick Dalvin Cook. And running
back they're running their wide receiver if he plays Adam
Theelan's got a bad back, but he's like the NFL
version of Rudy. So some incredible stories there, But more
than anything, a home field advantage. UH. Super Bowl generally
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doesn't have a great atmosphere all the time. That would
be as good at atmosphere as you'd find, and you
and that way like, look at Miss Minnesota pulls the upset,
you'd still get huge numbers. Whereas though you're gonna get
a Matt Monster number, whoever's in the super Bowl, if
it's Jacksonville and Philadelphia won't be a great number. Jacksonville,
Minnesota won't be great for by Super Bowl standards. You understand,
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you know what I'm saying, Okay, And the reason that
you want to see the Patriots just because they have
an all time grade at quarterback. And we talked about
this yesterday where we said, hey, you know, it's not
a I mean, it's the easiest road you're ever going
to get if you're the Pats. But what's lost in
this conversation, Yes, do you need a franchise quarterback. Sure,
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because the franchise quarterback will keep you in the game,
We'll make you viable. What you really need is a
great defense. That's what you really need. And um, what
if I told you that the defenses playing this weekend.
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I had a conversation with Tony Romo. Tony Romo obviously
you've heard of him, but this is back when he
was with the Cowboys, and he's like, hey, look you
want a little tip, Sure, nobody doesn't have a top
ten defense is winning Super Bowl and happening, it's not.
And so while we go crazy about the franchise quarterbacks,
and franchise quarterbacks, much like Aaron Rodgers, can lift you
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to a height that your team should not achieve. The
fact is that that height is not a Super Bowl win.
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We're joined by the Blazer's head coach, Terry Stotts. He
joins us on the Dougautu Show on Fox Sports Radio. Coach,
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how are you? I'm doing well, Doug? How are you
doing good? I was up in Portland and Eugene and
Corvallis the past day and a half or so. I
did not I flew in and I drove right to Eugene,
did my show, when saw shoot arounds? And then when
did a game? So I apologize. I know you had
a game last night against the Pacers, but I when
you come to l A, I will buy you a
cup of coffee whatever you'd like. Um, how do you
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think you played? I'm sorry? How do you think you played?
Last night. Uh, you know what, we played pretty well. Um,
you know, myths, you're gonna have ebbs and flows. But uh,
I like the way we finished the game. In the
fourth quarter. We held Indiana of twelve points and uh
made some good players down the stretch. The third quarter
was a little a little ragged, but uh, it's good
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to win at home. You know, we had a tough
spell earlier in the season with the home losing streets.
So we've won a few in a row at home,
and that's that's been encouraging. What do you count that for? Why?
Why the struggles at home? That's not normally, that's not
the norm in the NBA. Well, Uh, you know, when
we lost six in a row, I think all were
against basically playoff teams, So I think the quality of
the opponent had something to do with it. We lost
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a couple of close ones that um you know that
usually makes a difference in in your records. But uh,
during that stretch, we just, uh we fell flat on
a couple of games New Orleans and Washington and just
didn't pull it through. Yeah. But and then and then
you know, you go and do things like win in
Oklahoma City and and do so without Dame like that's
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so it's it's it's kind of confounding to watched like
some of the results based upon the personnel and some
teams like, look, you're not gonna play your starters, you're
on the road, You're gonna get beat. How do you like,
how do you handle that? Some nights you're not, like
if you don't have Damian Lillard, and yet you go
and beat the thunder And yet there are times in
which you've had your full allotment of players and haven't
played nearly after your potential. Well, I think you see
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it across the league this year. You have upsets like
you look at New Orleans goes and beat wins in Boston,
then loses in Atlanta. I mean things like that. Things
like that happen. Um. Everybody has injuries. It seems like
a lot of top players have been out at one
time and another, and you gotta figure out ways to
win games. And uh, sometimes you keep playing the way
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you normally want to play, and sometimes you have to
make adjustments. And during the stress that Damien was out,
we I think we went five and two, and as
you mentioned in the in the opening, Shabaz Napier has
been playing very well and different guys have stepped up.
Alfred Camino has had some really good games for c J.
When Dame was out, one us a couple of games.
So I think, uh, when when one of your top
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players is out, like when James Hart is out, other
guys just have to rise to the occasion, not necessarily
doing more than what they're capable of doing, but just
doing what they are capable of. Damian Um he voiced
some of his frustration I think with the All Star
voting more more than anything. Going back, uh to last week,
you know, Chris Haynes wrote the article I've gotten frustrated.
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Here's the quote. IVE gotten frustrated just the fact that
feels like I've always gotten to be the fall guy.
Every other guy has been deserving. So he's not calling
out other people. He's just like, hey, look, it's really hard,
and why am I the guy that doesn't make the
All Star team? And and Terry you know, we go
back to last year and he was the guy who
came out in the office season and said, Hey, if
we don't ever win a title, I'm okay with it,
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because what I when we've been able to do here,
how they support me, how I get to play achieving,
you know, trying to be better and better with you know,
if this is our lot in life, it's okay. So
it's it's kind of saying one thing and then saying
another thing. How have you handled that frustration which he's
allowed to become public about. Well, you know, the last
two years, I think he was deserving and I know
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how important he was to our team that he was
very deserving and showed it. Unfortunately, he showed it even
more so after the All Star break when we made
good runs in the last thirty games to make the playoffs,
great comebacks, um come back in the second half last
games to to make the playoffs. Unfortunately that was after
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the All Star break. Uh but I've always I think
winning is has always been a factor in in All
Star voting. And frankly, we didn't have the record when
votes were into we're a losing team. We're six seven
games under five hundred, and I could understand it. Now
this year, I don't think there's any question that he
should be an All Star because, uh, you know, are
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he's carrying our team were three or four games over
five hundred. We're right in the mix with a bunch
of other teams, and his numbers support that. And that's
just the that's just the the objective stuff. It's not
even the subjective things of being the leader of the
team and being the franchise player and and doing all
the things that he does too with his teammates. So
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I understand the frustration, you know, to your question, I
think everybody has goals and wants to make an All
Star team or whatever whatever their goals are, and uh,
there's frustration when you don't achieve them. I guess here
would be my thing. I don't don't know. Can you
sell them on? Hey look man, you already got your
shoe right, you already wrote well well respected. And if
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they want to stub you, fine, like take the time
off and actually get rested. So you say, you kick
ask the second half of the year and then you
can use it to motivate you. But you can also
use it to rest because, as you know, when you
go down to that All Star thing, especially this year
it's in l A, guys are going out, there's all
kinds of different stuff you have to do. He has
to do for Adidas, like this actually could be a good.
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Is there any way to spin it to a guy
who's as competitive as Damian Lillard? That could be actually
a good thing If he gets snubbed, Oh probably, But
he's done that. He's been there, done that the last
two years. So why not make the All Star team? Yeah?
I got you? How do you? I feel like you
mentioned the injuries for big name players, and obviously Kauai
is still out. He's had the thigh thing been very
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limited this season. Other guys like Damien have missed different
amounts of time. I felt like up until a couple
of weeks ago, the new schedule had really benefits, Like
the quality of play was better in the league. Give
me the sense of a guy who played in the
league and coaching the league. Do you think there's a
discernible difference or do you think there's still the attrition
of all these games and all this travel and all
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the competitiveness of the league and guys are still getting hurt. Well,
first of all, uh, just a correct I never played
in the league, so I played in I played in
the Tupper League, I played in the c B A.
But no, the schedule, Uh, the schedule has certainly reduced
the back to backs, the travel has been easier, there
is more rest time. I think the league has done
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a very good job with that. I think the level
of play has been I think there's a lot of
I don't know if parody is the right word, but
I think there's a lot of competitiveness out there. Um,
and you know you're still gonna have uh, you know,
playoff teams non playoff teams, but you look at the
teams in the West and how competitive that playoff really
is right now, and same thing in the East. It's
uh And I can't I don't know whether to attribute
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to the schedule or not, but I do think the
league uh looked at that situation handle it really well.
All right. Uh. The Blazers have announced that Jason Quicklin
it covers the team for you guys for NBC for
the local NBC Comcast affiliate. H He just tweeted out
that you guys are going to you sign a consulting
agreement with and former NBA ref Down Baden, who's gonna
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assist player on who assist players on rules of the game,
points of emphasis, and analyzing officiating data from the NBA.
There's been a lot of talk that the officials are
different in how they handle the players, and and that's
what's caused uh kind of a riff between the play
current players and the officials. Some of these younger refs
have a little bit more confidence and calling technical fouls
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and how they call a game. Do you notice that
or is that just players being a little bit more sensitive?
I think, uh, throughout time that there's uh, you know,
the player referee relationship has evolved just a lot of
I think a lot of the conflict, um might even
be socially. Uh go to our society where everybody has
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a voice and can free to express their opinion, and
everybody's looking for blame and everything is out uh out
there for public consumption. So I think that's part of it.
But I certainly don't. I think it's a two way street,
players and referees the relationship. Anytime you have relationships, it
goes both ways. I think the player's interaction with referees
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and vice versa. UM, I don't know how contentious it is.
I just know that, uh that there it's more. It's
more noticeable because of media and social media. I think
just that there's more when things happen, everybody knows about it.
So I don't know how much has changed. I know
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years ago, players and referee still got into it. It
just wasn't on Sports Center. Do you guys have a
backdoor entrance into your locker room in Portland? We do
not know? Nobody is breaching our locker room? Is that?
Is that? Have you seen or heard of anything like that? Again?
Like that? That's I guess my question. Um, Like, let
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me ask you this is were any referees involved in
that breach? No? No, no, But I'm just I'm I'm
asking more for again for your your vast experience in
the league. Um, Like, this does seem like kind of
cb A stuff though, right Like I was in the
I B A, the A B A. I got my
last game in France. I'm actually suspended six games if
I ever go back to France and play because there
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was a fight like it it does. I know that
guys say meet me outside, but generally guys don't meet
them outside when it's in the NBA. But like you've
been in this league for a long time, him, Um,
is this more normal and just being reported or is
something like what happened in l A different than the past. Well,
I don't, uh, certainly, as you mentioned, I think scuffles
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in the hallway, postgame account encounters. I know back I
don't know how many years ago when uh Portland's Portland's
was leaving Golden State and they're being chased by a player,
and you know, so there have been player player issues
throughout the years. Um, but I've never, like I said,
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since I've been here, there there have been those those conflicts,
but no one has actually entered an opposing locker room
that I'm aware of. Um. Okay, So look, I read
the Oregonian. Um, I know that there's a great passion
for you guys to take kind of that next step.
What are your thoughts on your roster and whether or
not this will be the roster that you head into
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the playoffs with. Well, I you know, I'm not gonna
comment on any trade rumors. I'm the coach, and I
like our roster, and I think we have gotten better.
At our first forty games, first fourty games, we struggled offensively,
which I didn't think would be a concern for us,
and our defense was pretty solid, which was what our
goal was. But I anticipate coach in this team, and
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you know, you never say never as far as roster management,
and Neil o'sha has done a great job with the
roster and I'm I'm happy with it and I'm I'm
glad that we're we're going in the right direction. So um,
I think that's the best way for me to answer.
That's that's the fairest way you can possibly answered. Listen,
really appreciate you. I've listened. If I were you, though,
somebody said I played the NBA and I'd only played
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in the c b A, I would have just taken it.
I mean, who's gonna know, right? But you know what
I can't. You know? Then then I would get criticized for,
you know, endorsing something that wasn't true, and I, in
good conscience I could not do that. You never got
a tende. No, that was my goal, you know, playing
in Great Falls, Montana for three years, all I wanted
was attend That's all I wanted. You couldn't get it.
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You couldn't get it. Couldn't get it. Man. But how
about the Big Twelve? But how about the Big Twelve
this year? Pretty amazing they're gonna get are They're gonna
get nine teams in the in the tournament. I don't
think nine. I think it's gonna end up being more
in the seven variety. UM. Oklahom States surprising in in
what they've done. Uh not TCU lost to point guard
Jalen Fisher. Uh for people don't know Terry was very
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good player at Oklahoma. Have you seen have you seen
Trey Young play it? I have you know? Do two rules?
I can't comment on individual players, but perhaps seen Oklahoma
play and I enjoy watching them play. Yeah, I mean,
and the Steph curization of basketball is pretty obvious. Man,
I know you can't talk about it, but but like
they're not the same, but gosh, there's some similar the
shots that he takes in the way in which he plays,
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like oh my gosh. And frankly, the Damon Lilliard Damian lillardization.
You know, just how the floor Like did I do
do you do you think? Do we do a good
enough job in the media of understanding how the game
has evolved? Like we just I think people just say, well,
they shoot more threes. But but it's not like this.
Everything about the game is so vastly different in the
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last ten years. It's really hard to explain. And I
don't think we do a good enough job of it
when we broadcast. Is that is that fair? I would
I would say that's fair. You know. I don't watch
a lot of college games, but even the but the
pro game, like the space and the game is amazing,
how you know. And it's when you talk about just
getting threes, it's how you get those threes, you know.
And people say going inside out with the post. Well
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now it's inside out with penetration and uh taking a
quick three in transition, which people have never thought about doing.
And you know, if anybody would look back at uh,
you know, pick and roll, how that's evolved because in
the eighties there were if you look at those old
games on NBA TV from the eighties, there weren't picking rolls.
There's a lot of movement, a lot of running. But
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the game certainly has evolved, and I think personally for
the better because I think it's, uh, it's more of
a skill game. Yeah, you were That's the whole things.
You were born too soon, right, and you're stretch for
right now, you'd be a power forward now, right like
instead of trying to be a three, you'd be a
four and and you'd get get you the green light
and playing your system. Just stand out there in the
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corner and have guys dime you up and hit three. Terry,
thanks so much for doing this. Next time in Portland,
I'll stop in or in l A. I'll buy you
a cup of coffee. All right, sounds good? Always a pleasure, Doug,
Thanks Terry. Terry Stotts joining us old Big eight guy
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we try and play you a portion of a previous
show on Fox Sports One or Fox Sports Radio. Chris
Carter is on a show called First Things First, he
Nick Wright, Jenna Wolf. It's on six storty to nine
thirty a m. Eastern time on Sirius XM eighty three
and Fox Sports One. He had this to say about
quarterback play in the NFC channel. Not only is case
corn they're trying to win an NFC Patrick's Pat Summers
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trying to go back there and send the Massachu because
he has history in Philadelphia. I think he has the
Giant's job, So I believe that his ability to develop
quarterbacks is very important. He's gonna get Case to play
an aggressive style. They have a very good defense, and
he has enough tape to be able to trust Case.
That's the big difference. If you ask me who's the
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better quarterback in this game, Case Keenum is a better
quarterback right now, then Nick Foles is. So I'm less
concerned about the Case because he has a style. Nick
Foles is trying not to lose the Eagles the game
I can. I tend to think that's that's accurate. Like
my issue is that, look, each guy has a has
two notable flaws, right case golet's start with Case Keenum.
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Case Keenum. Or he's tiny and doesn't have a great
arm I think we all kind of know that, right
and I Rama's you know that probably better than anybody
because you're a Rams fan. And even though that offense
is limited, the offense did expose that, especially outside. If
you thought armstraight was an issue last week's inside in
the cold weather of Philadelphia, it's going to be a
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bigger issue. So lack of size and arm strength is
a problem. But the other problem is that he does
kind of have a little bit of a gun slinger
mentality there, right, Like he's the guy with a bad
arm that doesn't know he has a bad arm um.
On the other side, on the other side, you have
Nick Foles, who does have a good arm um and
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is a pretty good athlete. But he's he was flit
into an offense to which the starting quarterback is a
much better athlete. He is square peg in the roundhold.
They've had to adjust things to now. His problem is
the opposite. He doesn't really have confidence, Like he lacks
this When things go bad, he kind of goes into
a shell and and they got to kind of play
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around him, so they kind of have He actually has
a much better arm He's a much better pure pocket
quarterback because of his size and his arm strength then
case Keenum is. But he's the guy with the arm
but not a great quarterback, not mobile and knows his
own limitations, but then allows himself to mentally be limited
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by That makes sense, So I agree and I kind
of disagree. Here's a crazy thought that no one has
brought up that I was thinking about driving in today.
Who's the backup quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, Like the
best quarterback who's available this weekend in Philadelphia is Sam Bradford.
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And like, Look, you may not like Sam Bradford because
he got fifty million dollars out of college at Oklahoma.
You may not like Sam Bradford because once they drafted
Carson Wentz, he saw the handwriting on the wall and said, hey,
check please, I'd like to get out of here. You
may not like Sam Bradford because after the first week
of the season this year you're all in. And his knee,
he's got a bone spur and and he's probably just
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not right. But Sam Bradford can throw that ball. And
if you've ever like look, part of the Vikings thing
is so many guys that they've had have been haven't
been well regarded. I don't want case Keen to fail.
But if God forbids something happened to Case Keenum, I
can't imagine what an incredible moment it might be for
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Sam Bradford, who was less than beloved by Philadelphia Eagles fans,
to come in there and lead a team to an
NFC championship. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Radio app. Let's welcome in Eric Mangini, former head coach
Cleveland Brown's New York Jets, longtime assistant New England Patriots.
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Of course you'll see him on Fox Sports covering the
National Football League. Um, Eric, let's start with with Brady's hand.
You know, everything that goes on in New England, we're
we're hearing, uh that it was a knuckle, the right
knuckle hit a helmet, maybe the screw uh that you know,
screws in somebody's face mask, whatever. There's a lot of blood,
some stitches, but it was the outside of the hand.
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He's wearing gloves today at the press conference. Uh, what's
your thoughts in the likehood it affects Tom Brady this Sunday, Well,
it's it's pretty amazing to me that he hit his
hand on at anybody's helmet. One of the things that
we start on from the O T A S the earliest,
the earliest time that were on the field is to
always stay away from the quarterback. I mean, that's priest
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over and over and over again. But it did in
terms of how much it's gonna affect him. Um, you know,
I think it's gonna be something that that's annoying to
him throughout the course of the game. I'd say that
he's probably gonna be frustrated by the fact that he
had the misreps during the week that that he normally
would have taken so that he didn't aggravate it. I
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don't think it will be the difference in the game
by any stretch, but I think it will be one
of those annoying things that that he's just gonna have
to work through from a pain perspective. Early. All right,
let's get to let's get to the game itself. Um,
like those of us Layman out there, Eric, we sit
there and go, all right, well, Brady just forced him
off the spot, right, like force him to move. He's different.
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That's what Atlanta did in the Super Bowl in the
first half. That that's what Miami did when you didn't
have Rob Gronkowski, Like be physical because they're they're now
kind of like the Colts used to be a lot
of timing based stuff, right, be physical and forced them
on the spot. I know it's a simplistic way of
looking at it in terms of all the schematics of
the NFL, But does Jacksonville have. Is that their style
because because what the Giants were able to do to
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the Patriots twice the Super Bowl, that's what the Giants
have always done. Is that how the Jaguars play? Well, Yes,
yes it is. And when when you look at this,
you look at the front of that Jacksonville has may
are able to get to the quarterback with four which
is a key thing when you're playing New England because
blitzing really isn't isn't a very effective path to Tom
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And then they've got linebackers that can run. That helps too.
They've got quarters outside that can match up. Now, all
those things are great for Jacksonville, but they they do
what they do type team, which which is also good.
And there's that simplicity to it, so guys know what
they're doing. They can play fast. That that's great until
you run into a team that can figure out something
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to do against you that works and and New England
will and and the question is what's Jacksonville's second pitch?
And I don't see that. I don't see how they're
gonna be able to deal with the inside part of
the field that New England is able to exploit so effectively.
Between the slot receiver and Grondkowski, that to me is
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going to be an issue. Or the other thing about
in New England is they take what you give them.
So if you're gonna give him a bunch of hitches,
they'll take them, and they'll they'll take them all day.
Then they put pressure on you this no huddle and
and catch you in things. And then once they catch
you in something, they just keep hitting you. They keep
going after you. And I'm not sure if if Jacksonville
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is gonna be able to handle handle all the things
that New England's going to be able to attack them with.
Do you like the idea of putting Jalen Ramsey on drunk?
I don't think it's I don't think it's what they do.
I think it'll it would probably be conproductive. You see
that happens sometimes in the postseason, Doug, where teams change
and they want to they want to incorporate new schemes.
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But it's not something that guys are used to doing
throughout the course of the season. And so when you
when you try to go to that, they can't figure
out adjustments, they can't figure out where they're supposed to
hit in the running game. You know, maybe on obvious
passing downs where you're you know, third down, you know
that they've they've got to throw the ball. You could
go and get that matchup. But to do it down
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and down out against multiple personnel groups probably too hard
for him at this point. Okay, uh, look, Jacksonville, they
obviously want to protect borders and buy protect him. I
don't mean just block form. I mean they want to
protect him from himself from the big mistake. But he
did make some big throws. My thing is though, that like, look,
we have enough data on Blake Bortles to know who
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he is and to know that we don't have a
ton of confidence. And I kind of think, like, if
you go by points allowed, New England's fifth in points
allowed in the NFL, their number one since I think
Week five, like the defense is actually pretty good. They
allow a lot of yards, but they're also on the
field a lot of snaps. Um. It seems to me
that we're trying, we want so badly to change who
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Blake Bortles is. Like he's a below average quarterback? Is
he not? Well? I imagine going into the game, New
England is not gonna let the running game beat him,
So they're gonna handle for Net. Now, the second part
of this running game is Bortles, and that's that's where
he's He's actually heard a lot of teams and been
able to sustain drives is with his feet. But if
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you can force him to win the game and then
force him to win the game and in obvious passing situations,
he was really effective last week because they were able
to run the ball off running the ball, They're able
to hit the play action, they were able to move
the pocket, They're able to do a lot of things
on their terms. I don't think you're gonna see the
missed fits that you saw with Pittsburgh in the Running game,
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where these huge holes for for Net to run through.
England's gonna take that stuff away in it and you're right,
they're gonna say, okay, can you beat us with Blake
Bortles as a true passer? Um, you hear about the
stuff out of Pittsburgh and how do you mean, like,
how do you handle it? Like I know that every
every you know fans like, well, just get rid of
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Levian Bell. He wants to show up an hour before
games and miss miss most to walk through. You get
rid of him. On the other hand, he's super, super talented, right,
you can't let him walk, Like, how do you how
do you handle Levian Bell if you're the Steelers. The look,
that's an ongoing problem that every team faces, and you
face that problem when you draft guys that have an
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extremely high amount of talent and can produce on Sunday
in a in a significant way. But then there's a
bunch of other issues that you have to deal with
to get him to Sunday or to get him to
the next season, and organizationally, you just ask a question
whether or not it's worth it. Um Typically, when you
pay those guys and you give them a lot of
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guaranteed money and long term contracts, those situations don't get better,
they get worse because you have less leverage as an organization.
So collectively, you've got to make a decision, is there
something we're willing to deal with? Is there anything that
we can put in the contract to two help protect
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the downside? But once you start paying guys at the
levels that that he's going to get paid at, or
any superstar gets paid at, the fines don't really they
aren't that big of a stick anymore. And You've got
to deal with the issue, and it's it's whether or
not you want to Eric Mangini joining us in the
dugout lip show, Let's go to the NFC. UM look,
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Folds is limited, but they hided they hid some of
those limitations last week as best they could and be
good Falcon's team at home. Um. You know, Keenum is limited,
but he's got some talent a wide receiver. I guess
some of it is, you know, limiting him from trying
to do something he can't do. What are his thoughts
in the quarterback matchup in the NFC Championship Game, Well,
(39:15):
I think Foles is going to have a harder time.
Minnesota's defenses is really good and they're able to do
a lot of different things. They do a nice job
of disguising pressures. They're able to play man and man
really effectively. I got three number one draft picks in
the secondary. They can match up, you know, from from
(39:38):
that perspective, and then they do a nice shot in
his own defense as well. The key thing for for
Minnesota is to be able to disrupt the timing and
the spacing of of Philly's routes. That's what they want
to do. They want to get guys to spots. They
wanted to be on time, and they want Foles to
get the ball out quickly. Being able to get up
(39:58):
there and press those widery sievers that changes everything. Things
get cloudy, and now Foals has to make decisions that
you know, it's not your first read, it's your second read.
And to me, that's where they can they can force
him into into some mistakes. I think it's gonna be hard,
hard for him if they can make it a again,
a one dimensional game and not let J J. I
(40:20):
a Um take over. Uh So it sounds like you
like Minnesota New England. I like. I like Minnesota New England.
I definitely do. The New England game is is so
interesting just because of the Tom Coughlin effect. You now
what I what. I love that Jacksonville did this week,
and to me is a great indication of the effect
(40:40):
that Tom has on that team, or has had on
that organization. They bring in the left footed punter so
the punt returners can get a feel for what it's
like fielding those balls in the course of the week.
It's those little details that I think set those giant
teams apart. And you can see that in act. So
I I like that aspect of it. I like the
(41:02):
fact that Tom has been able to do it in
the past. Um, I just don't think it's gonna be
enough at this point for them. What's the what's the
coaching higher that to you feels like the best fit
right because so much of it's about fit, fit, opportunity. Um,
you know the landscape of it. When you're seeing who
we assume is going to get a job and who
(41:23):
has gotten a job, what's the one you're like that
one will work? One one that's really interesting is is
Josh McDaniel's going to Indianapolis with a guy like Andrew. Look,
I loved Andrew coming out of college that I've loved
what he's done in pro football. I know he's hit
some um you know, he's hit some roadblocks here, but
(41:46):
I could see him being like Peyton Manning or like
Tom Brady. And I think Josh with that type of
quarterback talent and his ability to develop a system of
a really smart football around a quarterback like that, to me,
has a chance to be really successful for a long time.
(42:07):
I guess the question is doesn't he have to know
that Andrew luck shoulders, okay, and no one seems to
know of Andrew luck shoulders. Okay, Yeah, that's that's you.
You never know. I'm sure they went into this season
thinking that his shoulder was going to be fine. You
know this year, you don't know, you don't know, And
then that's the leap of faith. Look at Miami with
(42:28):
Ryan Tannehill. They thought his knee would hold up and
it goes out in in the preseason. You know, if
Tom Brady at this point hurts his hands, they get
rid of Jimmy Garoppolo. You're there's there's leaps of faith
that happened all the time. But if it is right,
and I would imagine Josh Field is pretty good about that.
If if that's where he's headed, that that pairing has
(42:51):
a chance to do some good things. They are great stuff. Man. Wait,
I can't wait to catch up with you again. Talk
some football the meantime. Have a great weekend with the family.
And thanks for joining us, all right, thanks Doug, alright,
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