August 7, 2025 • 45 mins
On a Thursday edition of the Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug reacts to Archie Manning's comments about his grandson Arch indicating that he will likely not enter the NFL Draft next year, and Doug believes Archie.
In this installment of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday", Doug and the crew feature 2007.
Doug thinks Diana Taurasi sounds petty and out of touch when she is shown complaining about WNBA salaries. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to talk about the Chargers, Bengals and the other NFL Headlines.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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That means it's a don't call a throwback Thursday. You're
gonna love what we got for you. Next hour, Daniel
Jeremiah's going to join us in twenty five minutes. We'll
get you ready for preseason games in the National Football League.
Is as we've been telling you, this is the week.
By the end of this week, every team in the
league will have played a preseason game. Everyone, and unlike
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previous years, a lot of these teams are playing their
dudes playing them So should be exciting, should be really
really exciting. Hey, welcome in. Boys are all here and
we are excited to get out for it tomorrow. Quick
programming note, JAYSU, you're off right. You got a little
mini vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Is that right, that is correct.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, So unfortunately I don't get to work with you guys.
I'm gonna do Cowherd show tomorrow, and then is Dan
doing my show tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dan Byer, and for Doug Gottlie tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Great, that's awesome, great job, great job, everybody, great job everybody.
I love that drop. A big fan of that drop. Okay,
let's just get after it. There there sound now of
arch Manning. Excuse me, Archie Manning saying that arch Manning?
What's the old leak? Courso not so fast, my friends
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on people putting him number one their draft boards because
he'll be at Texas next year. What I love about
my show, and I say my show, I mean not
just how we built it, but also the time slot
is it gives everybody a chance to talk about these things.
(02:03):
Go ahead, you get And it doesn't mean that I'm
taking anybody's rant and going to use it, but I do.
I appreciate the Cowherds of the world, the Dan Patrick's
of the world, and guys at other networks who give
a chance and sports television. But I can also tell
you that I I think we're doing something. And this
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is in regards to all of college football, all of it.
But I'll use arch Manning as the as the kind
of launching off point. Okay, I want you to take
a listen to something for a second. Well, well, first, here's
the deal with arch Manning. Okay, here's the deal Archie
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Manning saying Archill play at Texas. I don't believe it's
a leverage play. I don't believe, as Cowherd said, I
don't believe for one second that it's about saying the
right thing. I don't. I don't think that's what it is.
I don't know, Okay, And I don't think it's about
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money or an nil deal. I do think that. And
we'll get to this that we're in a super curious
time in college sports, and we're judging this based upon
the last thirty years, or maybe even on salaries of
guys or contracts of guys, and we have no idea
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what it's going to look like in the future. But
we're asking Archie Manning. All he's done is raise two
Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and now his grandson appears to
be positioning himself to being a starting quarterback and a
first overall pick in the NFL Draft. Doesn't mean he
will be but positioning himself. So if the path that
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his uncle took was good enough for them to go
to Super Bowls, win Super Bowls, and now be Hall
of Famers, it's probably gonna be good enough for arch
And I think that's the thinking here. It it's it's
you know, the story comes out that arch Manning okay,
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And this is according to Foxsports dot Com. He said, quote,
arch isn't going to do that. He'll be at Texas
in terms of uh being in the twenty twenty six
NFL Draft. He told this to Texas Monthly. People saying
he's a Heisman candidate. He's not a Heisman Trophy candidate
when you haven't played but three games. It's crazy. If
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anyone else says these things in today's society, they're a hater.
If they say it about somebody of a different race, obviously,
than they're a racists as well. Right, I can't do it,
But all Archie Manning is saying about his grandson is, hey, look,
you gotta have reps. You got to show you can
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do it. Eli came back for his senior year, and
of course Peyton came back for his senior year. And
it seemed to work for them, and even both of
them struggled in their first year. This is an old
football guy who's forgotten more about playing quarterback in the
NFL than any of us will. Actually, no saying. You
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have to eliminate that thought. He's not gonna be in
the twenty sixth draft. He started in three games. Take
a breath, Let the kid play, let him experience it.
It's actually probably the best thing I've ever heard. Right,
he's gonna be at Texas. It wasn't he's gonna be
playing college football. We're not doing the bounce around a
different schools thing. He's gonna be at Texas. That's where
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he's going to be. He's going to figure it out,
and when he's ready, then we'll send him to the
NFL Draft. But let's use it as a launch pad
here for just a second. Right, let's use it to
say something really smart. We are talking about a system
in college football that none of us know what's going
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to happen. Case in point, Mike Lombardi, who's the GM
for North Carolina GM for North Carolina. He's been a
GM in the Nation Football League, He's been a scout
course he's been a broadcaster as well. Super talented guy
who really knows football. Has worked for Bill Walsh, has
worked time for Bill Belichick, and now he's back for
working for Bill Belichick. Take a list to what he
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said when I asked him about their expectations at Carolina
this year.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We have seventy new players on the team does so
it's hard. It's a completely new team. I think, to me,
it's about one day at a time. We've got to
build it. We're building a culture. I mean, that's the
most important thing. When you walk in this building, you'll
feel a culture, you know, and that's what more is
the most important element of what we're doing. Once you
build a culture, then all of a sudden you've developed multipliers.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's what I think with our Manning wants to
be is a force multiplier. Archie Manning saying his grandson's
gonna be a Texas not just this year but into
next year is great. It's great for the sport, it's
great for Texas, but it's great for all these other kids.
They're going to talk about moving around and trying to
and it has nothing to do with money, zero zero, right,
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Like would it be smart? Financially to get to the NFL,
to try and get to that second contract, of course,
but doesn't even have to do with the fact. It
has to do with if you're gonna go to the NFL,
you better be ready because outside of Jordan Love, they
all start games their rookie year and if you're not ready, one,
it kills your confidence. Look at Kayleb Williams. And two
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oftentimes your coach should get fired, your GM could get fired,
and you can you get basically two years of being
a starter to prove yourself and after that, if you're
not good enough, you're out. And here we are, as
radio show hosts, even as a college basketball coach, making
comments about a man's thoughts who has been a star
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in college, been a starting quarterback in the NFL, raised
two Hall of famers went along the exact same path
as college quarterbacks as well, coming back to their senior year,
and we're criticizing make it about something that it's not about.
The best thing you can do to prepare yourself to
play in the NFL is to play a ton in college.
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The only position that does not operate that way is
running back because there's just a certain number of hits
that your body can take. Outside of that, the more
reps you get, the more experience you have, the more
experience you have, the slower the incredible speed of the
NFL game is. Let's not make it about nil. Let's
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not make it about first contracts. Let's not make about
positioning himself and what team he wants to go to,
and let's just make it about what I believe that
it's about. Has that arch Manning, following the guidance of
his grandpa, Archie Manning, and his uncle's Peyton Manning and
Eli Manning, knows that in order to make it, you
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got to give yourself the best opportunity to be ready
to play when you get there, and to be ready
to play when you get there. You're better off with
more reps in college, more starts. There's been studies done.
It's just like holding guys out not playing in their
rookie year. Right, there's a big divide. But I mean,
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Anthony Richardson, how many games did he play in college?
He was completely unprepared for being an NFL quarterback. And
you know what, he won't be an NFL quarterback or
starting NFL quarterback after this season. It's reality. Now you
can sit here and go, hey, that's just one. There's
other guys that have your right. Okay, you're right, but
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for the most part, you need to start two, if
not three, and if possible, four years in college. Bo Nix,
how was he last year? How many years did he
start in college?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Five?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I believe, right, Michael Pennix, How good was he last year?
And look at his meteoric rise from a guy who
wasn't seen as a thrower going back to when he's
in Indiana to having an absolute Howardzer being a high
first round traffick and supplanting Kirkcussins last year right, five
years in college. So you can sit here and argue
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about what you think it's about. But I think Archie
Manning knows what it's about. Volume of quality reps preparing
you because you're gonna have to play right away, and
if you're not ready to play right away, it gets exposed.
It's really hard for you to dig out of that rep,
really hard, really hard.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
This is the best of the Done Gott lead show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Throw back Thursday, Jay stew thank you, Doug.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'll take it from here, Doug, I'll take it from here.
Two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I want to have on everyone on the show, including
the listeners, to think about what they were doing in
two thousand and seven, eighteen years ago, eighteen years ago today,
A historic feat that nobody cares about happened. It sounded
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a little like this, Sam Deals and.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Bobs from What's Your Day? Seven fifty.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Bob stands out, So a very roided up Barry Bonds
with a massive head was in San Francisco that night.
He hit home run number seven fifty six. Of course,
Hank Aaron had their record for many years after passing
(12:15):
Babe Ruth. Barry Bonds breaks the home run record and
has since not been elected to the Hall of Fame,
has since not really been acknowledged as the home run leader.
He was the poster child on a sham of an
era in baseball. So historic night, Doug, Hank Aaron's record goes,
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Barry Bonds hits a home run. What do you remember
most about that two thousand and seven sports year.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, let's just start with the Barry Bonds thing. I've
said this before and I will continue to say that
it actually shows how incredible Henry Aaron was that here.
Barry Bonds is one of the great hitters of all time,
all time before he rooted up, and yet he needed
Rod Up play until he was forty and hit seventy
three home runs in a year in order to pass
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his record. Just shows how unbelievable that record actually is. Right,
I don't acknowledge Barry Bonds is the all time home
run king. It may have happened, but it's like scoring
a sixteen hundred on the SAT when you have the questions,
we don't. That does not be getting to college. So
that's my that's my first take from two thousand and seven.
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It's almost as if it didn't happen mentally to me,
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Most notably from that two thousand and seven baseball season,
by the way, that Red Sox won their second title
in three years yep, after having not won a title
for many, many decades. They swept the Colorado Rockies and
the World Series. I want to say, your friend Matt
Holliday played in that World Series.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
If I'm not mistaken, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Remember if he was stands. The reason I get was
he on the team at that time because he was
Rockies and the A's and then he became a cardinal.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I don't know if that that's verified.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
He's on the two thousand and seven Rockies team. He
drove in one hundred and thirty seven runs, led the
National League with the one hundred and thirty seven runs
and a three forty batting average. Whoa Matt Holidays.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Again, perfect, perfect example of what Barry Bonds did. Matt Holiday,
and I trust Matt. By the way, Matt is healing up.
He had his hip replaced yesterday. Sucks like. He was like, damn,
I hips killing me. And he went in. They're like, yeah,
you got a desenterve hit. You gotta get it done.
So I got a hipp place. Anyway, here's Matt Holliday
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who never took anything illegal, you know, and it's like, oh,
everybody says that, No, no, no, I know Matt, like I
believe that and his career, he'll never get in. I
don't think he'll ever get into Hall of Fame. Why
because at that time, the guys that were celebrated were
the steroid guys. We steria guess. Anyway, That's why I
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don't That was the first time Lebron James got the
NBA Finals, right, his didn't have Booby Gibson and him
were the backcourt, and they got stopped by the Spurs.
That was two thousand and seven. I remember the Eastern
Conference finals. They'd been littered with teams like this. Dwight
Howard and Hato Turgalou took Orlando to the finals one year.
(15:35):
Of course, Allen Iverson took his team to the finals
one year, but that was the year that Lebron James
first took a team to the NBA Finals. Two thousand
and seven. In college basketball, that was a year where
if I remember correctly, Florida was that their back to back, yes,
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at the first one.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
It was their second national consecutive national title.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, but that that final four was actually probably more
known for the Georgetown, Ohio State semi finals where Greg
Odin and.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh man, what's Michael Conley j Well, Gregor and.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Michael Conley junior shore But also for Georgetown, Right, Georgetown
they had a star center and their own right, they
have dad Jeff Green of course, but what was huh no, no, no, no, no,
no no no, no.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, and Roy hereby, by the way, brilliant guy, and
remember like he just got caught in between eras in
the NBA. He was really good player in the NBA.
Took the Pacers to the Eastern Conference finals, right, and
then all of a sudden you couldn't play him because
he was a traditional center. But Hibbert and Odin that
was the big showdown in the semi finals and they
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both kind of foul trouble and barely played.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Of course, it was the season that freshman Kevin Durant
did he win Player of the Year as a freshman,
went second overall in the draft, as the Sonics drafted
a guy that was supposed to be too thin. He's
got to put on water waight to be good, and
then he ends up being a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Texas did they get go to the Elite eight that year?
I believe Rick Barnes coach, I want to but the
great I remember Kevin Durant at Texas. He had this
one sequence where he blocked a shot like five times
in a row. Guy just trapped different dudes, kept getting
the ball, kept trying to lay it in. He was
a swat swat him away, swat them way, and you're like, Okay,
this guy's different.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But I remember him as unbelievable score. Unbeliev score.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So the Buck guys lost in the national championship game
to Florida in basketball, and they also lost to another
SEC team in the BCS national championship game in two
thousand and eight and seven was the season leading in
that OA season and that would be to less Miles's
LSU Tigers, who were the national champions in the two
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thousand and seven two thousand and eight seasons. So a
tough year for the Buck guys, losing in title games
in both men's of basketball and college football.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Boy, but less miles return to college football was was
a thud.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Huh man, Well he went down to Kansas, Yeah, and
that didn't work and then there were some off field
things and yep, yep it Hansas. Was he the guy
who tastes the grassy go ar?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Kansas?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Arkansas? Arkansas. In the movies that year, Spider Man three
was the top grossing film, follow by Shrek the Third, Transformers,
Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End, Harry Potter or
The Phoenix. But uh, there were there were some good movies.
There were some good movies that year. B movie was
(18:55):
that year the would be super bad? Super Bad? Was
that year Superbedsgo movie? I like super Bad a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That was?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That was pretty good.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's kind of in the comedy genre now of movies
that I don't think can be made anymore.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
What is the coolest way I've ever heard in my
entire life?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's insane?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Can I hear it again?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, it's a little inappropriate kind of knocked up?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Was that year too.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Knocked up?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Was that your funny one? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Super super bad though sort of in that kind of
that animal house kind of porky style of humor. And
you know, today maybe it'd be I don't know, if
you get a second look, or maybe it would get
a second look, like I don't know, problematic here. But
it was a great comedy.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
You got the you got the box office receipts in
front of you. Doug did No Country for Old Men?
Was that profitable? That was the Best Picture winner?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It was Best Picture, But it was not a big
money maker.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Ethan Cohen, Joel Cohen, it was.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It only made forty one million dollars.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Anton Schugour played by Javier the very creepy with the
weird hairdo the villain in that movie.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Hey, can I ask you guys a question? So what
what what are we? What are we supposed to assume
happened after that? At the end of that movie. I
gotta go back and watch it, report back.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
It's one of those artistic endings. It's gotten a lot
of criticism. Tommy Lee Jones has a soliloquy about life
and death and yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean, are we supposed to throw Josh Harrowins in it?
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Woody Harreldson's in it? Sorry, go ahead, I don't I remember. Yeah,
it kind of ends like a.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It is crazy though, I like, I mean, you guys
have all we've all seen it. Yet it only made
forty one million dollars, whereas other ones made like three
hundred fifty million dollars like that, it's just so bizarre.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Well it was Dan with d Lewis won Best Actor
for There Will Be Blood, which is a Paul Thomas
Anderson movie.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Great movie, also huge, not a huge box office success.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Right.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
You know this, these family movies like B Movie and
Spider Man three, like they're gonna make all them, and
then the artsy fartsy ones or you know, Blades.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Of Glory made one hundred and eighteen million.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Never saw that was that Free and.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Die Hard one hundred and thirty four million was.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Blades of Glory.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Though.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
The guy from Napoleon Dynamite was side by side with
Will Ferrell, right was John Hayter here might think of, Yeah,
where's he gone? He's just kind of dropped off and
I haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, what happened? What happened to him?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I don't know. I love Napoleon Dynamite though, So AnyWho,
different year?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
What about music there?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Jay stoo Well, I was gonna say that the New
England Patriots were in two thousand and seven arguably the
greatest team to ever take a football field. They went
undefeated through the season into the playoffs, losing only to
the Giants on a really random pitch and catch Eli
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Manning too, David Tyree, But the Patriots were the team
that year undefeated. And I remember seeing a strange choice.
I saw this interview with Randy Moss and they said,
what are you listening to nowadays? What's in your discman?
And he presented this, which was kind of surprising.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Leaves the pictures with third and ten.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Carrie Underwood's first number one single, and was it until
Until he Cheats about Cheating men and hating men? And
Carrie Underwood, of course, had one American Idol in two
thousand and five and then hit number one with this
single in two thousand and seven, Doug and foreshadowing she
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would be the woman on Sunday Nights who would cover
a bad jone Jet song with shoehorned NFL matchup lyrics.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Been waiting all day for Sunday night. Come on, it's aged.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you know the only reason that thing works? Because
I mean it's terrible, right, It's always terrible, doesn't matter
who does it, it's always terrible. Do you know why
it works?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Because you're because you're excited to watch a football game.
Don't care if they're screeching violins behind you? No, all right,
tell us her legs help.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Her, or her legs her. She's a beautiful, beautifulman Oklahoma
girl by the way. But uh no, any of those
those are just money makers, right, that's it. It's sponsored
by somebody. The sponsor goes like, all right, hey, we're
gonna do the intro video brought to you by a pepsi.
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They give you a list of people that you can
choose to basically wrap the brand. The only reason that
exists because it's literally the dumbest thing we do in
American sports television. The intro song.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Awful Rihanna was uh, Rihanna reached number one that year?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Is it Rihanna? Or is it Rihanna?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I figure out I was going. I've always gone with Rihanna.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
It's kind of like Gonzaga and Gonzaga.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, you hear it's Rihanna Billboard.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
No one says Potato, by the way, Okay, was it
Jason or Tomato? No, yeah, it's rach I never really
don't hear that.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Remember this hit single by Rihanna, This is Umbrella featuring
jay Z. Of course, jay Z was the one who
founded and launched Rihanna's career.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I like her. I think she's talented, she has some
great songs. I'm usually kind of skeptical of pop music,
but I.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Think she's a She passes the test.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, it's interesting here, I'm looking at the Billboard top.
Let's just look at the Billboard top twenty okay, from
twenty seven, okay, And who's still around and who's not right?
Because music you can kind of do forever. Ready, Maroon
five makes me wonder number one, uh uh, number one
Billboard song that year. Okay, still around. I think they
got a new album coming out, even though what happened
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there didn't a bass player or something happen. I don't
know anyway. Avril Levine, I that's the name I haven't
heard in quite a long Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
People say that she's got a she was like, disappeared
a long time ago, and ever since she's had this
body double living in her existence. It's a weird online theory,
and of course I say it's not. It's really her,
But there are there are stories out there that she
disappeared and was replaced by a Avril Levine doppelganger.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I've always wanted, like, I've always want to pretend that
I've people have done that. I had some young guy
yell out, yes, she has walk down the street in
Traverse City, Michigan. Some guy goes Michigan Tech like you're
with your.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Right but someone recognizes you.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's great, sort of we lost the Michigan Tech and
you Facecottlib. It was weird. It's like, hi, but I
do I love when people go like, you know what
you know, like Doug Gottlieb, Like I get that all
the time.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, I just I'm not Doug though I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Not Timberland, timbaland anybody heard from Timberland. No T Payne
and young Jock by you a drink, shoddy Snappin' Nope, Neo.
I think I ended Neo's presence because I picked his
pocket in the was a ESPN celebrity game before the
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All Star Game. Carrie Underwood still around, although not releasing albums.
Fergie feat Sharing Ludacris, Fergie still drop albums. Kelly Clarkson Akon,
Kelly Clark Stefani.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
She's she's very relevant because she does, like, you know,
her own show, her own daytime show, cooking show. She's
uh still very much in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Both tunks at Harvey. I've had a I've had a
crush on Gwen Savanni.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
For a long time, great voice.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
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Speaker 1 (27:13):
So Diana Tarazzi is in the news. She is, by
many people's estimation, the greatest women's player of all time.
Uh So she had this to say. There's a docu
series on Prime and so she had this to say
about WNBA paychecks when she played.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
I'm the best player in the world and I have
to go to a communist country to get paid like
a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a
big part of it. We weren't making that much money,
so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.
Now we have to come back home and get paid
nothing to play in a harder league in worse conditions.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Against the best competition in the world.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
The janitor at Arena made more than me.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Okay, there's a lot to it there. The first is
that we have to start with the understanding, okay, of
how it comes off. And I will be completely honest
with you. I don't always come off the way I
think I come off right. I think a lot of
us are guilty of that. Right where you're like, man,
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I thought that went great, and you walk out and
somebody's like, how'd it go like that. It was not good,
you know. I mean I can think of times in
which I've said things on TV and on radio that
I thought came out one way, and then I listened
back or watch back, like, oh, that wasn't exactly I
want to come out. But the what's the word? The sheer,
(28:47):
hurricance and just kind of obnoxious sort of feel to
it is uh yeah, ye, she sounds obnoxious. That's that's
the only real way to put it. She sounds obnoxious. First,
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Russia was not a communist country when she went there.
I played in Russia before she did. Russia. Look, you
could they could, you could call it a dictatorship now,
but it's not a communist country has been communist. Second,
it's basic economics. Not everything that is valued in this
country is valued elsewhere. Not everything that is valued elsewhere
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is valued here. Perfect example is if you're Kristin Polisic, right,
have you ever heard him say like, Hey, I'm the
best player on the US men's national team and I
have to go overseas to go play when my family's
at home and they're getting older. Has anybody ever said that,
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what do i'd like men's soccer players? You know, they
got to go over sea. They're the best in the world,
and we like soccer here. We just don't have a
league where you can generate that kind of money. Where
are the MLS players coming out and going like this
is wrong. The janitor makes more than me, which, by
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the way, not accurate. You're only playing for three months,
you know, back then when she was playing, and she's
making a ton of money craft a ton of money
in endorsements. But again the other part too, it is like, look,
you basically were in a startup that was not making money.
You were working at a restaurant, and you're comparing your
restaurant to another restaurant that's been going for one hundred
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years that everybody loves, right, and what is it eighty
five percent of restaurants failed within the first couple of years.
I don't know that number varies, but it's just you
sound most great athletes when they get done, they have
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a certain confidence, but grace to them and whatever bitterness
they have may be in rivalries, but all of it
end up leading to this place where I got consider
the greatest player ever. I traveled all over the world
to play and look at the WNBA now as opposed
to when I started. I take a great amount of
pride in it. But instead you're sitting there complaining about
a league that was hemorrhaging money for twenty five years
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because you're bitter and you're jealous that the players, now,
especially one particular player who you don't think is at
your level, is making more money than you did. That's
called being petty. Let's bring in Dan Jeremiah. He joins
us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Of course, DJ is the lead analyst in the NFL Draft,
he's the lead analyst in the Chargers radio network, and
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of course he has moved the six podcast. He joins
us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trado.
By the way, so do you work for ESPN.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Now, I just got off of a zoom, Doug. We
just had a informational zoom kind of clarifying where everything
was with NFL network in ESPN, and I just I
had one question I wanted to ask but I didn't
get to it, which was now that it looks like
this deal is going to happen, how long you know
on the timeline of this thing when it can be
agreed to. How long before Baldy is allowed to compete
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on ww E RAW. I don't know, you know if
that needs to wait until everything gets finalized or you know,
when we can get him in the ring. But it's
going to be neat to have new partners.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yes, crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. Dan Jeremiah joins us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did
you say we got to get to I Loo for
a quick update? Said it? Yeah, let's okay. I look,
can you give me the details of Rashaan Slater really quick?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Today, the Pro Bowl left tackle taken off the practice
field in a card. It appeared to be a left
leg injury. The Athletic reported that after the injury, by
the way, Hi, DJ, glad your padres, hear your voice.
Glad your padres are doing well, but not really.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We'll get there, of course.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
The Athletic reported that after the injury, Slater threw his helmet,
he slammed his hand on the cart and buried his
head in his hands. That's all the details that are
available right now. This happened just over an hour ago.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hmmm.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
That's just brutal, you know, he just got the contract
done too that you know, sat out a little bit.
He had some issues with his foot, you know, early
on in camp, so that couple with the contract. You know,
he went practicing early, but showed up in great shape
and you're hoping he's going to have a monster year
with a team that wants to run the ball and
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has really invested in the offensive line with his new
contract as well as with Joe Alt. In year two,
they go out and signed Mackay Beckton. So I haven't
heard the finality of it, but when you hear those
details about you know, his head's and a towel and
everybody's coming up and tapping him on the shoulder as
he's being cart off the field. That didn't look good.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
No, no, not not not great. Have you been to
Chargers practice?
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Yeah, I've been out there, been out there a couple
of times. You know, they everybody's positive this time of year,
you know for sure, but they they are. I think
they're really deep on defense. I think you saw that
in the preseason game against the Lions. You know at
Lions obviously either team playing their front line players, but
two teams that are viewers haven't talented rosters, and the
back end of the back end of the roster for
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the Chargers beat the stuffing out of the Lions. So
it's a it's a deeper team for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Let's get to what people in the league are saying.
I don't think there's no question to me that that
the Cowboys, like it's every year with the Cowboys drama, right,
every single year with the Cowboys drama. It feels like,
but in this particular case, like he's gonna play for
the Cowboys, So I mean, and he's doing a hold in.
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So what are people in the league saying with the
Cowboys right now?
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Oh, everybody's expecting them to get done. It just kind
of seems, you know, like this is the unnecessary path
that you go down, and it gets kind of contentious
and gets ugly, but then eventually the Cowboys end up
giving in a little bit and they'll and they'll get
the deal done. So I've talked anybody in the league
that thinks this isn't going to happen. I was out
there at their joint practice with the Rams the other day,
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and you know when Jimmy Garoppolo was just carving them
up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. I think it was pretty
good idea. That'd be nice to have Micael Parsons on
that defense.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, no question, no question. Okay, what about Cleveland? You know,
there's I've heard from a couple of people, not a time,
but a couple of people on television say they're setting
your door standers up to fail, right, throwing them out
there and with the ones in the preseason game when
he's barely practiced with the ones. My perception of it
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is like, are you kidding your fifth round draft pick?
You gets a chance to play with the ones? That's great.
That gives you the best chance to succeed because you're
playing with better players that they they're actually going to
be playing this season for the Browns. What's your take
on how they're handling Shadure concerning the injuries they've had
to the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Man, I kind of guess was late to this in
terms of seeing this as a quote unquote controversy. But
I mean I'm like, am I missing something? There's just
quarterbacks are hurt, so the next guy is gonna go
in and get more opportunities. Like that happens in every camp,
you know, at all different positions across the league every
single year. You know, you just guys get hurt, and
that gives other guys opportunity to get out there and play.
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And nobody's going to be one hundred percent ready to
play as a rookie when they get out in the field.
But that's what's that's what's about. Get out there, get
some reps, get some experience, and to be honest with you,
preseason is like the most bland, you know form of
football where I think it's easiest for guys who have
talent to show out because you're not. There's nothing's going
to trick you, a confusion with what they're doing. There's
nothing that your lack of experience will keep you from,
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you know, finding success. Like it's basic, you know, junior
high level scheme. You're going to see here on both
sides of the ball. Just go out there, makes rows,
make good decisions. I find it hard to do both
things right. You can't both believe in him and then
also be nervous and scared for him, Like it's not
you can't do both of those things.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I don't. I really don't get it. I'm glad
you sort of agreed with me. I just I don't
get it at all. Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox
Sports Radio, what do you think they do in terms
of who they keep.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
I've always thought that that Kenny Pickett was going to
be the odd man out and was going to be,
you know, a trade piece if there was an injury
around the league, then he would be that guy that
would be kind of sent out and see what you
can get for him. But I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't have any inside information there of
what that looks like with the with the young rookies.
I just it was hard for me to think that
they would, you know, they would move on from one
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of those guys this early on in the process, not
knowing what you have to me, it makes a lot
of sense. Those guys are on the roster and Flacco.
I thought Kenny Pickett would just have to be the
light years better than everybody else to make it, and
I don't know, because of me injury, that's going to
be difficult for him to do.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Archie Manning came out in a Texas publication. Fox Sports
has picked it up, saying, Hey, arch is going to
be at the University of Texas next year. I'll give
you my thoughts in a second. What are your thoughts
when you hear that.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
I think that's kind of been the plan. I mean,
if you talk to anybody that's connected to the family,
that was always kind of the expectation that he was
not going to be in a hurry to rush off
to the NFL. And his dad and uncle state for
a while and played a lot of snaps, and I
think they're smart enough to realize, hey, let's get the
experience and get developed there at Texas where you can
playing playing with a lot of talent, coached by a
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good quarterback guy in Sark. To me, I was kind
of always expected that he was going to, you know,
want to stay another year after this year. Now, who knows,
maybe he goes out when's the Heisman Trophy and he's
so much better than everybody else, and you say, what
is there left to prove? But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No, And again, you know, his uncles both had the
exact same kind of path and they stayed for an
extra year. And I think he can stay for two years,
two more years if you wanted anyway. But I thought
to you, like he started three games, like, what are
we actually do?
Speaker 9 (39:15):
Yeah, let them play, and if you look at it,
I mean everything, especially over the last handful of years,
the guys that have succeeded the guys who played a
lot of football in college.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, of course. Well I don't know if you heard
the interview, but I thought it was I mean, I
think he knew what he was saying, but it's it
came across super weird. You know, Bengals are playing tonight,
and you know they're talking about playing their guys. First thing.
What do you think of some of these teams kind
of circling back to playing their starters in this first
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preseason game.
Speaker 9 (39:48):
Well, you know, Kansas City's Andy Reid's always been one
who's done that, and there's obviously merit into it. And
then there's a reason why you want to try and
get off to a hot start. You can't afford to
give away games early in the season, and even in
a seventeen game year, you want to be ready to go.
And so I get that. I think there's certain teams
and coaches that you know, couldn't get away without it.
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Without doing it, I don't think there's just this is
the right way that's the wrong way. I think you
got to know your team. But you know, most successful
coaches have a philosophy and they stick to it and
they you know, there's the leaf in it, and Andy
Reid's always been one who's done that. So I was
I hate. I hated when the good guys played in
the preseason when I was with teams because I remember
Johns and Ogden getting nicked up in the in the
(40:32):
fourth preseason game one year and just being like, dude's
Johnson Ogen, like he doesn't need to practice. But you know,
I kind of see both sides of that argument.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Did you hear what Jamar Chase said about his quarterback?
Speaker 9 (40:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
And he was, yeah, he was talking about he was
talking about his quarterback in comparison to Josh Allen, and
he said that people don't game plan for Joe Burrow.
They game plan for Josh Allen. And I was like,
wait what now, obviously the ego of a wide receiver
(41:05):
is you know, the game plan for me. We got
all these weapons. But it was a really really odd statement.
Is it true?
Speaker 9 (41:12):
Yeah? Well, I mean I think that you know, Joe
Burrow is going to be hard to defend, just in
terms of he's equal opportunity. He's gonna he sees the
entire field. He's going to just get the ball where
it needs to go, and he's going to play the
game from the pocket. He's not going to be involved
in a lot of design quarterback runs or anything like that,
whereas Josh Allen. Maybe Josh Allen's presence can factor into
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what safeties are doing a little bit more, and if
he starts running the ball, you gotta you've got to
worry about that aspect of his game. So he's not
just like a stock pocket passing quarterback. So maybe, you know,
maybe that's what he's trying to reference, but he's got
the best stock pocket passing quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, it was. I felt like it was an odd statement,
super super super odd.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
Usually never great to talk about other guys on other teams.
That just usually as a head coach, that's good advice
and probably for a player as well.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's very very good advice. Dan Jeremi is
our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I feel like the NFC North is the
most interesting maybe quarterback division, and my logic behind it is. Okay,
you got Golf who's been really good the past couple
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of years and been good at times for the Rams
as well, But now Ben Johnson's gone, what does it
look like with a different coordinator. You got Jordan Love
who last two year has been a starter, injured a
little bit last year, but also like a little bit
high on the turnover numbers. This is a big year
for them, especially considering of the rest of the division.
Then you got JJ McCarthy. What have you heard? I
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mean again, I can't go off of one highlight on Twitter.
I can't go off of one person. But you talk
to everybody in the league. What have you heard of
it about JJ McCarthy's first preseason as a starter.
Speaker 9 (43:03):
Yeah, for just okay, hasn't blown anybody away. But we
talked about this on our our podcast last week. I
agree with you because I had the same take, which
was that division. You know, the focus on those quarterbacks
probably the more fascinating, most fascinating one of the league
and not just for you know, how does JJ step
into a complete team? You look at Caleb like the
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excuses have been going to be stripped away this year
with with Ben Johnson and with an upgraded offensive line.
Jordan Love and the Packers are kind of like a
sneaky team and that I don't know anybody talks about
them amongst this division. You know, they just kind of
don't get a lot of attention. But they could be really,
really good if he continues to uh, if he takes
a big step this year. And then I saw the
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Lions of the Night and it's preseason. I learned that
playing their guys, but you know there's going to be
questions about them losing their coordinators and what does that
look like? And you know, so I think it's I
think it's going to be a division we focus and
I think the two the number one storyline in the
league for me this year is going to be the
second year quarterbacks. All those guys we saw start last
year and uh, and they've got two of them in
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that division.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah. Uh, he's the one and only Daniel Jeremiah. He
is now an employee of the Worldwide Leader as well,
and he's made in many hats. I so you haven't
gotten to the NFL draft. I don't know what that's
going to look like next year. That's going to be
found fascinating, right, are they going to do theirs and
you guys do yours?
Speaker 9 (44:27):
I think I think I think this first year, for sure,
everything's the status quo. And then I mean, I don't
speak out a turn on that, but I think they're
you know, they under their way of doing business. You
think about the National Championship Game for football and all that.
They have all those different viewing opportunities and streams. So
I know there's I've got a lot of people like, oh,
what's gonna happen with NFL network draft coverage. I'm like, well,
(44:48):
I think that, I think that will be okay.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Right, He's DJ Dan Jeremih. Check out download the Move
the Sticks podcast. I encourage you to do so. It's awesome, DJ,
thanks for being our guest.
Speaker 9 (44:57):
Thanks. And the Dodgers just through the ball awing. Oh no,
they're off today, that'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Look a look at look at look at the parting
ways in which he just knife yet just knife? She
chased to knife?
Speaker 9 (45:09):
Yet four hundred million dollars. You think you get a
little more than that with a payroll of four hundred
million bucks. That's just me.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, well it's okay. I mean, listen all this you
know this is this is bitterness over the Padres choking
last offseason when they were talking all that trash.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
If we didn't choke last year, it would have been
three straight years first round exit for the Dodgers. They'll
probably get bounced in the first year this year, so
it's just three out of four years.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We'll have to settle around.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
All Jay Due, that's an all timer. If we didn't
choke last.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Year, Yeah we had if Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
If the Dodgers didn't win the World Series, we would
have not won the World Series. If if if, Yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, two games, one lead, and yeah, how that work
out for it? Thanks? Thanks DJ
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Is as we've been telling you, this is the week.
By the end of this week, every team in the
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dudes playing them So should be exciting, should be really
really exciting. Hey, welcome in. Boys are all here and
we are excited to get out for it tomorrow. Quick
programming note, JAYSU, you're off right. You got a little
mini vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Is that right, that is correct.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, So unfortunately I don't get to work with you guys.
I'm gonna do Cowherd show tomorrow, and then is Dan
doing my show tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dan Byer, and for Doug Gottlie tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Great, that's awesome, great job, great job, everybody, great job everybody.
I love that drop. A big fan of that drop. Okay,
let's just get after it. There there sound now of
arch Manning. Excuse me, Archie Manning saying that arch Manning?
What's the old leak? Courso not so fast, my friends
(01:43):
on people putting him number one their draft boards because
he'll be at Texas next year. What I love about
my show, and I say my show, I mean not
just how we built it, but also the time slot
is it gives everybody a chance to talk about these things.
(02:03):
Go ahead, you get And it doesn't mean that I'm
taking anybody's rant and going to use it, but I do.
I appreciate the Cowherds of the world, the Dan Patrick's
of the world, and guys at other networks who give
a chance and sports television. But I can also tell
you that I I think we're doing something. And this
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is in regards to all of college football, all of it.
But I'll use arch Manning as the as the kind
of launching off point. Okay, I want you to take
a listen to something for a second. Well, well, first, here's
the deal with arch Manning. Okay, here's the deal Archie
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Manning saying Archill play at Texas. I don't believe it's
a leverage play. I don't believe, as Cowherd said, I
don't believe for one second that it's about saying the
right thing. I don't. I don't think that's what it is.
I don't know, Okay, And I don't think it's about
(03:09):
money or an nil deal. I do think that. And
we'll get to this that we're in a super curious
time in college sports, and we're judging this based upon
the last thirty years, or maybe even on salaries of
guys or contracts of guys, and we have no idea
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what it's going to look like in the future. But
we're asking Archie Manning. All he's done is raise two
Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and now his grandson appears to
be positioning himself to being a starting quarterback and a
first overall pick in the NFL Draft. Doesn't mean he
will be but positioning himself. So if the path that
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his uncle took was good enough for them to go
to Super Bowls, win Super Bowls, and now be Hall
of Famers, it's probably gonna be good enough for arch
And I think that's the thinking here. It it's it's
you know, the story comes out that arch Manning okay,
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And this is according to Foxsports dot Com. He said, quote,
arch isn't going to do that. He'll be at Texas
in terms of uh being in the twenty twenty six
NFL Draft. He told this to Texas Monthly. People saying
he's a Heisman candidate. He's not a Heisman Trophy candidate
when you haven't played but three games. It's crazy. If
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anyone else says these things in today's society, they're a hater.
If they say it about somebody of a different race, obviously,
than they're a racists as well. Right, I can't do it,
But all Archie Manning is saying about his grandson is, hey, look,
you gotta have reps. You got to show you can
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do it. Eli came back for his senior year, and
of course Peyton came back for his senior year. And
it seemed to work for them, and even both of
them struggled in their first year. This is an old
football guy who's forgotten more about playing quarterback in the
NFL than any of us will. Actually, no saying. You
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have to eliminate that thought. He's not gonna be in
the twenty sixth draft. He started in three games. Take
a breath, Let the kid play, let him experience it.
It's actually probably the best thing I've ever heard. Right,
he's gonna be at Texas. It wasn't he's gonna be
playing college football. We're not doing the bounce around a
different schools thing. He's gonna be at Texas. That's where
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he's going to be. He's going to figure it out,
and when he's ready, then we'll send him to the
NFL Draft. But let's use it as a launch pad
here for just a second. Right, let's use it to
say something really smart. We are talking about a system
in college football that none of us know what's going
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to happen. Case in point, Mike Lombardi, who's the GM
for North Carolina GM for North Carolina. He's been a
GM in the Nation Football League, He's been a scout
course he's been a broadcaster as well. Super talented guy
who really knows football. Has worked for Bill Walsh, has
worked time for Bill Belichick, and now he's back for
working for Bill Belichick. Take a list to what he
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said when I asked him about their expectations at Carolina
this year.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We have seventy new players on the team does so
it's hard. It's a completely new team. I think, to me,
it's about one day at a time. We've got to
build it. We're building a culture. I mean, that's the
most important thing. When you walk in this building, you'll
feel a culture, you know, and that's what more is
the most important element of what we're doing. Once you
build a culture, then all of a sudden you've developed multipliers.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's what I think with our Manning wants to
be is a force multiplier. Archie Manning saying his grandson's
gonna be a Texas not just this year but into
next year is great. It's great for the sport, it's
great for Texas, but it's great for all these other kids.
They're going to talk about moving around and trying to
and it has nothing to do with money, zero zero, right,
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Like would it be smart? Financially to get to the NFL,
to try and get to that second contract, of course,
but doesn't even have to do with the fact. It
has to do with if you're gonna go to the NFL,
you better be ready because outside of Jordan Love, they
all start games their rookie year and if you're not ready, one,
it kills your confidence. Look at Kayleb Williams. And two
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oftentimes your coach should get fired, your GM could get fired,
and you can you get basically two years of being
a starter to prove yourself and after that, if you're
not good enough, you're out. And here we are, as
radio show hosts, even as a college basketball coach, making
comments about a man's thoughts who has been a star
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in college, been a starting quarterback in the NFL, raised
two Hall of famers went along the exact same path
as college quarterbacks as well, coming back to their senior year,
and we're criticizing make it about something that it's not about.
The best thing you can do to prepare yourself to
play in the NFL is to play a ton in college.
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The only position that does not operate that way is
running back because there's just a certain number of hits
that your body can take. Outside of that, the more
reps you get, the more experience you have, the more
experience you have, the slower the incredible speed of the
NFL game is. Let's not make it about nil. Let's
(08:58):
not make it about first contracts. Let's not make about
positioning himself and what team he wants to go to,
and let's just make it about what I believe that
it's about. Has that arch Manning, following the guidance of
his grandpa, Archie Manning, and his uncle's Peyton Manning and
Eli Manning, knows that in order to make it, you
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got to give yourself the best opportunity to be ready
to play when you get there, and to be ready
to play when you get there. You're better off with
more reps in college, more starts. There's been studies done.
It's just like holding guys out not playing in their
rookie year. Right, there's a big divide. But I mean,
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Anthony Richardson, how many games did he play in college?
He was completely unprepared for being an NFL quarterback. And
you know what, he won't be an NFL quarterback or
starting NFL quarterback after this season. It's reality. Now you
can sit here and go, hey, that's just one. There's
other guys that have your right. Okay, you're right, but
(10:04):
for the most part, you need to start two, if
not three, and if possible, four years in college. Bo Nix,
how was he last year? How many years did he
start in college?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Five?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I believe, right, Michael Pennix, How good was he last year?
And look at his meteoric rise from a guy who
wasn't seen as a thrower going back to when he's
in Indiana to having an absolute Howardzer being a high
first round traffick and supplanting Kirkcussins last year right, five
years in college. So you can sit here and argue
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about what you think it's about. But I think Archie
Manning knows what it's about. Volume of quality reps preparing
you because you're gonna have to play right away, and
if you're not ready to play right away, it gets exposed.
It's really hard for you to dig out of that rep,
really hard, really hard.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
This is the best of the Done Gott lead show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Throw back Thursday, Jay stew thank you, Doug.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'll take it from here, Doug, I'll take it from here.
Two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I want to have on everyone on the show, including
the listeners, to think about what they were doing in
two thousand and seven, eighteen years ago, eighteen years ago today,
A historic feat that nobody cares about happened. It sounded
(11:36):
a little like this, Sam Deals and.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Bobs from What's Your Day? Seven fifty.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Bob stands out, So a very roided up Barry Bonds
with a massive head was in San Francisco that night.
He hit home run number seven fifty six. Of course,
Hank Aaron had their record for many years after passing
(12:15):
Babe Ruth. Barry Bonds breaks the home run record and
has since not been elected to the Hall of Fame,
has since not really been acknowledged as the home run leader.
He was the poster child on a sham of an
era in baseball. So historic night, Doug, Hank Aaron's record goes,
(12:41):
Barry Bonds hits a home run. What do you remember
most about that two thousand and seven sports year.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, let's just start with the Barry Bonds thing. I've
said this before and I will continue to say that
it actually shows how incredible Henry Aaron was that here.
Barry Bonds is one of the great hitters of all time,
all time before he rooted up, and yet he needed
Rod Up play until he was forty and hit seventy
three home runs in a year in order to pass
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his record. Just shows how unbelievable that record actually is. Right,
I don't acknowledge Barry Bonds is the all time home
run king. It may have happened, but it's like scoring
a sixteen hundred on the SAT when you have the questions,
we don't. That does not be getting to college. So
that's my that's my first take from two thousand and seven.
(13:36):
It's almost as if it didn't happen mentally to me,
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Most notably from that two thousand and seven baseball season,
by the way, that Red Sox won their second title
in three years yep, after having not won a title
for many, many decades. They swept the Colorado Rockies and
the World Series. I want to say, your friend Matt
Holliday played in that World Series.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
If I'm not mistaken, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Remember if he was stands. The reason I get was
he on the team at that time because he was
Rockies and the A's and then he became a cardinal.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I don't know if that that's verified.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
He's on the two thousand and seven Rockies team. He
drove in one hundred and thirty seven runs, led the
National League with the one hundred and thirty seven runs
and a three forty batting average. Whoa Matt Holidays.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Again, perfect, perfect example of what Barry Bonds did. Matt Holiday,
and I trust Matt. By the way, Matt is healing up.
He had his hip replaced yesterday. Sucks like. He was like, damn,
I hips killing me. And he went in. They're like, yeah,
you got a desenterve hit. You gotta get it done.
So I got a hipp place. Anyway, here's Matt Holliday
(14:51):
who never took anything illegal, you know, and it's like, oh,
everybody says that, No, no, no, I know Matt, like I
believe that and his career, he'll never get in. I
don't think he'll ever get into Hall of Fame. Why
because at that time, the guys that were celebrated were
the steroid guys. We steria guess. Anyway, That's why I
(15:14):
don't That was the first time Lebron James got the
NBA Finals, right, his didn't have Booby Gibson and him
were the backcourt, and they got stopped by the Spurs.
That was two thousand and seven. I remember the Eastern
Conference finals. They'd been littered with teams like this. Dwight
Howard and Hato Turgalou took Orlando to the finals one year.
(15:35):
Of course, Allen Iverson took his team to the finals
one year, but that was the year that Lebron James
first took a team to the NBA Finals. Two thousand
and seven. In college basketball, that was a year where
if I remember correctly, Florida was that their back to back, yes,
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at the first one.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
It was their second national consecutive national title.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, but that that final four was actually probably more
known for the Georgetown, Ohio State semi finals where Greg
Odin and.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh man, what's Michael Conley j Well, Gregor and.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Michael Conley junior shore But also for Georgetown, Right, Georgetown
they had a star center and their own right, they
have dad Jeff Green of course, but what was huh no, no, no, no, no,
no no no, no.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, and Roy hereby, by the way, brilliant guy, and
remember like he just got caught in between eras in
the NBA. He was really good player in the NBA.
Took the Pacers to the Eastern Conference finals, right, and
then all of a sudden you couldn't play him because
he was a traditional center. But Hibbert and Odin that
was the big showdown in the semi finals and they
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both kind of foul trouble and barely played.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Of course, it was the season that freshman Kevin Durant
did he win Player of the Year as a freshman,
went second overall in the draft, as the Sonics drafted
a guy that was supposed to be too thin. He's
got to put on water waight to be good, and
then he ends up being a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Texas did they get go to the Elite eight that year?
I believe Rick Barnes coach, I want to but the
great I remember Kevin Durant at Texas. He had this
one sequence where he blocked a shot like five times
in a row. Guy just trapped different dudes, kept getting
the ball, kept trying to lay it in. He was
a swat swat him away, swat them way, and you're like, Okay,
this guy's different.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But I remember him as unbelievable score. Unbeliev score.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So the Buck guys lost in the national championship game
to Florida in basketball, and they also lost to another
SEC team in the BCS national championship game in two
thousand and eight and seven was the season leading in
that OA season and that would be to less Miles's
LSU Tigers, who were the national champions in the two
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thousand and seven two thousand and eight seasons. So a
tough year for the Buck guys, losing in title games
in both men's of basketball and college football.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Boy, but less miles return to college football was was
a thud.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Huh man, Well he went down to Kansas, Yeah, and
that didn't work and then there were some off field
things and yep, yep it Hansas. Was he the guy
who tastes the grassy go ar?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Kansas?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Arkansas? Arkansas. In the movies that year, Spider Man three
was the top grossing film, follow by Shrek the Third, Transformers,
Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End, Harry Potter or
The Phoenix. But uh, there were there were some good movies.
There were some good movies that year. B movie was
(18:55):
that year the would be super bad? Super Bad? Was
that year Superbedsgo movie? I like super Bad a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That was?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That was pretty good.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's kind of in the comedy genre now of movies
that I don't think can be made anymore.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
What is the coolest way I've ever heard in my
entire life?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's insane?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Can I hear it again?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, it's a little inappropriate kind of knocked up?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Was that year too.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Knocked up?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Was that your funny one? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Super super bad though sort of in that kind of
that animal house kind of porky style of humor. And
you know, today maybe it'd be I don't know, if
you get a second look, or maybe it would get
a second look, like I don't know, problematic here. But
it was a great comedy.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
You got the you got the box office receipts in
front of you. Doug did No Country for Old Men?
Was that profitable? That was the Best Picture winner?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It was Best Picture, But it was not a big
money maker.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Ethan Cohen, Joel Cohen, it was.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It only made forty one million dollars.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Anton Schugour played by Javier the very creepy with the
weird hairdo the villain in that movie.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Hey, can I ask you guys a question? So what
what what are we? What are we supposed to assume
happened after that? At the end of that movie. I
gotta go back and watch it, report back.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
It's one of those artistic endings. It's gotten a lot
of criticism. Tommy Lee Jones has a soliloquy about life
and death and yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean, are we supposed to throw Josh Harrowins in it?
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Woody Harreldson's in it? Sorry, go ahead, I don't I remember. Yeah,
it kind of ends like a.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It is crazy though, I like, I mean, you guys
have all we've all seen it. Yet it only made
forty one million dollars, whereas other ones made like three
hundred fifty million dollars like that, it's just so bizarre.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Well it was Dan with d Lewis won Best Actor
for There Will Be Blood, which is a Paul Thomas
Anderson movie.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Great movie, also huge, not a huge box office success.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Right.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
You know this, these family movies like B Movie and
Spider Man three, like they're gonna make all them, and
then the artsy fartsy ones or you know, Blades.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Of Glory made one hundred and eighteen million.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Never saw that was that Free and.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Die Hard one hundred and thirty four million was.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Blades of Glory.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Though.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
The guy from Napoleon Dynamite was side by side with
Will Ferrell, right was John Hayter here might think of, Yeah,
where's he gone? He's just kind of dropped off and
I haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, what happened? What happened to him?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I don't know. I love Napoleon Dynamite though, So AnyWho,
different year?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
What about music there?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Jay stoo Well, I was gonna say that the New
England Patriots were in two thousand and seven arguably the
greatest team to ever take a football field. They went
undefeated through the season into the playoffs, losing only to
the Giants on a really random pitch and catch Eli
(21:48):
Manning too, David Tyree, But the Patriots were the team
that year undefeated. And I remember seeing a strange choice.
I saw this interview with Randy Moss and they said,
what are you listening to nowadays? What's in your discman?
And he presented this, which was kind of surprising.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Leaves the pictures with third and ten.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Carrie Underwood's first number one single, and was it until
Until he Cheats about Cheating men and hating men? And
Carrie Underwood, of course, had one American Idol in two
thousand and five and then hit number one with this
single in two thousand and seven, Doug and foreshadowing she
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would be the woman on Sunday Nights who would cover
a bad jone Jet song with shoehorned NFL matchup lyrics.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Been waiting all day for Sunday night. Come on, it's aged.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you know the only reason that thing works? Because
I mean it's terrible, right, It's always terrible, doesn't matter
who does it, it's always terrible. Do you know why
it works?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Because you're because you're excited to watch a football game.
Don't care if they're screeching violins behind you? No, all right,
tell us her legs help.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Her, or her legs her. She's a beautiful, beautifulman Oklahoma
girl by the way. But uh no, any of those
those are just money makers, right, that's it. It's sponsored
by somebody. The sponsor goes like, all right, hey, we're
gonna do the intro video brought to you by a pepsi.
(23:28):
They give you a list of people that you can
choose to basically wrap the brand. The only reason that
exists because it's literally the dumbest thing we do in
American sports television. The intro song.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Awful Rihanna was uh, Rihanna reached number one that year?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Is it Rihanna? Or is it Rihanna?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I figure out I was going. I've always gone with Rihanna.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
It's kind of like Gonzaga and Gonzaga.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, you hear it's Rihanna Billboard.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
No one says Potato, by the way, Okay, was it
Jason or Tomato? No, yeah, it's rach I never really
don't hear that.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Remember this hit single by Rihanna, This is Umbrella featuring
jay Z. Of course, jay Z was the one who
founded and launched Rihanna's career.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I like her. I think she's talented, she has some
great songs. I'm usually kind of skeptical of pop music,
but I.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Think she's a She passes the test.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, it's interesting here, I'm looking at the Billboard top.
Let's just look at the Billboard top twenty okay, from
twenty seven, okay, And who's still around and who's not right?
Because music you can kind of do forever. Ready, Maroon
five makes me wonder number one, uh uh, number one
Billboard song that year. Okay, still around. I think they
got a new album coming out, even though what happened
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there didn't a bass player or something happen. I don't
know anyway. Avril Levine, I that's the name I haven't
heard in quite a long Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
People say that she's got a she was like, disappeared
a long time ago, and ever since she's had this
body double living in her existence. It's a weird online theory,
and of course I say it's not. It's really her,
But there are there are stories out there that she
disappeared and was replaced by a Avril Levine doppelganger.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I've always wanted, like, I've always want to pretend that
I've people have done that. I had some young guy
yell out, yes, she has walk down the street in
Traverse City, Michigan. Some guy goes Michigan Tech like you're
with your.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Right but someone recognizes you.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's great, sort of we lost the Michigan Tech and
you Facecottlib. It was weird. It's like, hi, but I
do I love when people go like, you know what
you know, like Doug Gottlieb, Like I get that all
the time.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, I just I'm not Doug though I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Not Timberland, timbaland anybody heard from Timberland. No T Payne
and young Jock by you a drink, shoddy Snappin' Nope, Neo.
I think I ended Neo's presence because I picked his
pocket in the was a ESPN celebrity game before the
(26:18):
All Star Game. Carrie Underwood still around, although not releasing albums.
Fergie feat Sharing Ludacris, Fergie still drop albums. Kelly Clarkson Akon,
Kelly Clark Stefani.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
She's she's very relevant because she does, like, you know,
her own show, her own daytime show, cooking show. She's
uh still very much in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Both tunks at Harvey. I've had a I've had a
crush on Gwen Savanni.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
For a long time, great voice.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And that's don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
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Speaker 1 (27:13):
So Diana Tarazzi is in the news. She is, by
many people's estimation, the greatest women's player of all time.
Uh So she had this to say. There's a docu
series on Prime and so she had this to say
about WNBA paychecks when she played.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
I'm the best player in the world and I have
to go to a communist country to get paid like
a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a
big part of it. We weren't making that much money,
so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.
Now we have to come back home and get paid
nothing to play in a harder league in worse conditions.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Against the best competition in the world.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
The janitor at Arena made more than me.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Okay, there's a lot to it there. The first is
that we have to start with the understanding, okay, of
how it comes off. And I will be completely honest
with you. I don't always come off the way I
think I come off right. I think a lot of
us are guilty of that. Right where you're like, man,
(28:24):
I thought that went great, and you walk out and
somebody's like, how'd it go like that. It was not good,
you know. I mean I can think of times in
which I've said things on TV and on radio that
I thought came out one way, and then I listened
back or watch back, like, oh, that wasn't exactly I
want to come out. But the what's the word? The sheer,
(28:47):
hurricance and just kind of obnoxious sort of feel to
it is uh yeah, ye, she sounds obnoxious. That's that's
the only real way to put it. She sounds obnoxious. First,
(29:09):
Russia was not a communist country when she went there.
I played in Russia before she did. Russia. Look, you
could they could, you could call it a dictatorship now,
but it's not a communist country has been communist. Second,
it's basic economics. Not everything that is valued in this
country is valued elsewhere. Not everything that is valued elsewhere
(29:33):
is valued here. Perfect example is if you're Kristin Polisic, right,
have you ever heard him say like, Hey, I'm the
best player on the US men's national team and I
have to go overseas to go play when my family's
at home and they're getting older. Has anybody ever said that,
(29:55):
what do i'd like men's soccer players? You know, they
got to go over sea. They're the best in the world,
and we like soccer here. We just don't have a
league where you can generate that kind of money. Where
are the MLS players coming out and going like this
is wrong. The janitor makes more than me, which, by
(30:17):
the way, not accurate. You're only playing for three months,
you know, back then when she was playing, and she's
making a ton of money craft a ton of money
in endorsements. But again the other part too, it is like, look,
you basically were in a startup that was not making money.
You were working at a restaurant, and you're comparing your
restaurant to another restaurant that's been going for one hundred
(30:39):
years that everybody loves, right, and what is it eighty
five percent of restaurants failed within the first couple of years.
I don't know that number varies, but it's just you
sound most great athletes when they get done, they have
(31:00):
a certain confidence, but grace to them and whatever bitterness
they have may be in rivalries, but all of it
end up leading to this place where I got consider
the greatest player ever. I traveled all over the world
to play and look at the WNBA now as opposed
to when I started. I take a great amount of
pride in it. But instead you're sitting there complaining about
a league that was hemorrhaging money for twenty five years
(31:24):
because you're bitter and you're jealous that the players, now,
especially one particular player who you don't think is at
your level, is making more money than you did. That's
called being petty. Let's bring in Dan Jeremiah. He joins
us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Of course, DJ is the lead analyst in the NFL Draft,
he's the lead analyst in the Chargers radio network, and
(31:47):
of course he has moved the six podcast. He joins
us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trado.
By the way, so do you work for ESPN.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Now, I just got off of a zoom, Doug. We
just had a informational zoom kind of clarifying where everything
was with NFL network in ESPN, and I just I
had one question I wanted to ask but I didn't
get to it, which was now that it looks like
this deal is going to happen, how long you know
on the timeline of this thing when it can be
agreed to. How long before Baldy is allowed to compete
(32:18):
on ww E RAW. I don't know, you know if
that needs to wait until everything gets finalized or you know,
when we can get him in the ring. But it's
going to be neat to have new partners.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yes, crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. Dan Jeremiah joins us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did
you say we got to get to I Loo for
a quick update? Said it? Yeah, let's okay. I look,
can you give me the details of Rashaan Slater really quick?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Today, the Pro Bowl left tackle taken off the practice
field in a card. It appeared to be a left
leg injury. The Athletic reported that after the injury, by
the way, Hi, DJ, glad your padres, hear your voice.
Glad your padres are doing well, but not really.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We'll get there, of course.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
The Athletic reported that after the injury, Slater threw his helmet,
he slammed his hand on the cart and buried his
head in his hands. That's all the details that are
available right now. This happened just over an hour ago.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hmmm.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
That's just brutal, you know, he just got the contract
done too that you know, sat out a little bit.
He had some issues with his foot, you know, early
on in camp, so that couple with the contract. You know,
he went practicing early, but showed up in great shape
and you're hoping he's going to have a monster year
with a team that wants to run the ball and
(33:34):
has really invested in the offensive line with his new
contract as well as with Joe Alt. In year two,
they go out and signed Mackay Beckton. So I haven't
heard the finality of it, but when you hear those
details about you know, his head's and a towel and
everybody's coming up and tapping him on the shoulder as
he's being cart off the field. That didn't look good.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
No, no, not not not great. Have you been to
Chargers practice?
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Yeah, I've been out there, been out there a couple
of times. You know, they everybody's positive this time of year,
you know for sure, but they they are. I think
they're really deep on defense. I think you saw that
in the preseason game against the Lions. You know at
Lions obviously either team playing their front line players, but
two teams that are viewers haven't talented rosters, and the
back end of the back end of the roster for
(34:20):
the Chargers beat the stuffing out of the Lions. So
it's a it's a deeper team for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Let's get to what people in the league are saying.
I don't think there's no question to me that that
the Cowboys, like it's every year with the Cowboys drama, right,
every single year with the Cowboys drama. It feels like,
but in this particular case, like he's gonna play for
the Cowboys, So I mean, and he's doing a hold in.
(34:48):
So what are people in the league saying with the
Cowboys right now?
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Oh, everybody's expecting them to get done. It just kind
of seems, you know, like this is the unnecessary path
that you go down, and it gets kind of contentious
and gets ugly, but then eventually the Cowboys end up
giving in a little bit and they'll and they'll get
the deal done. So I've talked anybody in the league
that thinks this isn't going to happen. I was out
there at their joint practice with the Rams the other day,
(35:14):
and you know when Jimmy Garoppolo was just carving them
up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. I think it was pretty
good idea. That'd be nice to have Micael Parsons on
that defense.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, no question, no question. Okay, what about Cleveland? You know,
there's I've heard from a couple of people, not a time,
but a couple of people on television say they're setting
your door standers up to fail, right, throwing them out
there and with the ones in the preseason game when
he's barely practiced with the ones. My perception of it
(35:44):
is like, are you kidding your fifth round draft pick?
You gets a chance to play with the ones? That's great.
That gives you the best chance to succeed because you're
playing with better players that they they're actually going to
be playing this season for the Browns. What's your take
on how they're handling Shadure concerning the injuries they've had
to the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Man, I kind of guess was late to this in
terms of seeing this as a quote unquote controversy. But
I mean I'm like, am I missing something? There's just
quarterbacks are hurt, so the next guy is gonna go
in and get more opportunities. Like that happens in every camp,
you know, at all different positions across the league every
single year. You know, you just guys get hurt, and
that gives other guys opportunity to get out there and play.
(36:25):
And nobody's going to be one hundred percent ready to
play as a rookie when they get out in the field.
But that's what's that's what's about. Get out there, get
some reps, get some experience, and to be honest with you,
preseason is like the most bland, you know form of
football where I think it's easiest for guys who have
talent to show out because you're not. There's nothing's going
to trick you, a confusion with what they're doing. There's
nothing that your lack of experience will keep you from,
(36:47):
you know, finding success. Like it's basic, you know, junior
high level scheme. You're going to see here on both
sides of the ball. Just go out there, makes rows,
make good decisions. I find it hard to do both
things right. You can't both believe in him and then
also be nervous and scared for him, Like it's not
you can't do both of those things.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I don't. I really don't get it. I'm glad
you sort of agreed with me. I just I don't
get it at all. Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox
Sports Radio, what do you think they do in terms
of who they keep.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
I've always thought that that Kenny Pickett was going to
be the odd man out and was going to be,
you know, a trade piece if there was an injury
around the league, then he would be that guy that
would be kind of sent out and see what you
can get for him. But I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't have any inside information there of
what that looks like with the with the young rookies.
I just it was hard for me to think that
they would, you know, they would move on from one
(37:47):
of those guys this early on in the process, not
knowing what you have to me, it makes a lot
of sense. Those guys are on the roster and Flacco.
I thought Kenny Pickett would just have to be the
light years better than everybody else to make it, and
I don't know, because of me injury, that's going to
be difficult for him to do.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Archie Manning came out in a Texas publication. Fox Sports
has picked it up, saying, Hey, arch is going to
be at the University of Texas next year. I'll give
you my thoughts in a second. What are your thoughts
when you hear that.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
I think that's kind of been the plan. I mean,
if you talk to anybody that's connected to the family,
that was always kind of the expectation that he was
not going to be in a hurry to rush off
to the NFL. And his dad and uncle state for
a while and played a lot of snaps, and I
think they're smart enough to realize, hey, let's get the
experience and get developed there at Texas where you can
playing playing with a lot of talent, coached by a
(38:42):
good quarterback guy in Sark. To me, I was kind
of always expected that he was going to, you know,
want to stay another year after this year. Now, who knows,
maybe he goes out when's the Heisman Trophy and he's
so much better than everybody else, and you say, what
is there left to prove? But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No, And again, you know, his uncles both had the
exact same kind of path and they stayed for an
extra year. And I think he can stay for two years,
two more years if you wanted anyway. But I thought
to you, like he started three games, like, what are
we actually do?
Speaker 9 (39:15):
Yeah, let them play, and if you look at it,
I mean everything, especially over the last handful of years,
the guys that have succeeded the guys who played a
lot of football in college.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, of course. Well I don't know if you heard
the interview, but I thought it was I mean, I
think he knew what he was saying, but it's it
came across super weird. You know, Bengals are playing tonight,
and you know they're talking about playing their guys. First thing.
What do you think of some of these teams kind
of circling back to playing their starters in this first
(39:46):
preseason game.
Speaker 9 (39:48):
Well, you know, Kansas City's Andy Reid's always been one
who's done that, and there's obviously merit into it. And
then there's a reason why you want to try and
get off to a hot start. You can't afford to
give away games early in the season, and even in
a seventeen game year, you want to be ready to go.
And so I get that. I think there's certain teams
and coaches that you know, couldn't get away without it.
(40:11):
Without doing it, I don't think there's just this is
the right way that's the wrong way. I think you
got to know your team. But you know, most successful
coaches have a philosophy and they stick to it and
they you know, there's the leaf in it, and Andy
Reid's always been one who's done that. So I was
I hate. I hated when the good guys played in
the preseason when I was with teams because I remember
Johns and Ogden getting nicked up in the in the
(40:32):
fourth preseason game one year and just being like, dude's
Johnson Ogen, like he doesn't need to practice. But you know,
I kind of see both sides of that argument.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Did you hear what Jamar Chase said about his quarterback?
Speaker 9 (40:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
And he was, yeah, he was talking about he was
talking about his quarterback in comparison to Josh Allen, and
he said that people don't game plan for Joe Burrow.
They game plan for Josh Allen. And I was like,
wait what now, obviously the ego of a wide receiver
(41:05):
is you know, the game plan for me. We got
all these weapons. But it was a really really odd statement.
Is it true?
Speaker 9 (41:12):
Yeah? Well, I mean I think that you know, Joe
Burrow is going to be hard to defend, just in
terms of he's equal opportunity. He's gonna he sees the
entire field. He's going to just get the ball where
it needs to go, and he's going to play the
game from the pocket. He's not going to be involved
in a lot of design quarterback runs or anything like that,
whereas Josh Allen. Maybe Josh Allen's presence can factor into
(41:35):
what safeties are doing a little bit more, and if
he starts running the ball, you gotta you've got to
worry about that aspect of his game. So he's not
just like a stock pocket passing quarterback. So maybe, you know,
maybe that's what he's trying to reference, but he's got
the best stock pocket passing quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, it was. I felt like it was an odd statement,
super super super odd.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
Usually never great to talk about other guys on other teams.
That just usually as a head coach, that's good advice
and probably for a player as well.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's very very good advice. Dan Jeremi is
our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I feel like the NFC North is the
most interesting maybe quarterback division, and my logic behind it is. Okay,
you got Golf who's been really good the past couple
(42:26):
of years and been good at times for the Rams
as well, But now Ben Johnson's gone, what does it
look like with a different coordinator. You got Jordan Love
who last two year has been a starter, injured a
little bit last year, but also like a little bit
high on the turnover numbers. This is a big year
for them, especially considering of the rest of the division.
Then you got JJ McCarthy. What have you heard? I
(42:50):
mean again, I can't go off of one highlight on Twitter.
I can't go off of one person. But you talk
to everybody in the league. What have you heard of
it about JJ McCarthy's first preseason as a starter.
Speaker 9 (43:03):
Yeah, for just okay, hasn't blown anybody away. But we
talked about this on our our podcast last week. I
agree with you because I had the same take, which
was that division. You know, the focus on those quarterbacks
probably the more fascinating, most fascinating one of the league
and not just for you know, how does JJ step
into a complete team? You look at Caleb like the
(43:25):
excuses have been going to be stripped away this year
with with Ben Johnson and with an upgraded offensive line.
Jordan Love and the Packers are kind of like a
sneaky team and that I don't know anybody talks about
them amongst this division. You know, they just kind of
don't get a lot of attention. But they could be really,
really good if he continues to uh, if he takes
a big step this year. And then I saw the
(43:46):
Lions of the Night and it's preseason. I learned that
playing their guys, but you know there's going to be
questions about them losing their coordinators and what does that
look like? And you know, so I think it's I
think it's going to be a division we focus and
I think the two the number one storyline in the
league for me this year is going to be the
second year quarterbacks. All those guys we saw start last
year and uh, and they've got two of them in
(44:07):
that division.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah. Uh, he's the one and only Daniel Jeremiah. He
is now an employee of the Worldwide Leader as well,
and he's made in many hats. I so you haven't
gotten to the NFL draft. I don't know what that's
going to look like next year. That's going to be
found fascinating, right, are they going to do theirs and
you guys do yours?
Speaker 9 (44:27):
I think I think I think this first year, for sure,
everything's the status quo. And then I mean, I don't
speak out a turn on that, but I think they're
you know, they under their way of doing business. You
think about the National Championship Game for football and all that.
They have all those different viewing opportunities and streams. So
I know there's I've got a lot of people like, oh,
what's gonna happen with NFL network draft coverage. I'm like, well,
(44:48):
I think that, I think that will be okay.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Right, He's DJ Dan Jeremih. Check out download the Move
the Sticks podcast. I encourage you to do so. It's awesome, DJ,
thanks for being our guest.
Speaker 9 (44:57):
Thanks. And the Dodgers just through the ball awing. Oh no,
they're off today, that'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Look a look at look at look at the parting
ways in which he just knife yet just knife? She
chased to knife?
Speaker 9 (45:09):
Yet four hundred million dollars. You think you get a
little more than that with a payroll of four hundred
million bucks. That's just me.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, well it's okay. I mean, listen all this you
know this is this is bitterness over the Padres choking
last offseason when they were talking all that trash.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
If we didn't choke last year, it would have been
three straight years first round exit for the Dodgers. They'll
probably get bounced in the first year this year, so
it's just three out of four years.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We'll have to settle around.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
All Jay Due, that's an all timer. If we didn't
choke last.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Year, Yeah we had if Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
If the Dodgers didn't win the World Series, we would
have not won the World Series. If if if, Yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, two games, one lead, and yeah, how that work
out for it? Thanks? Thanks DJ
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