January 31, 2018 • 47 mins
Doug Gottlieb says the Redskins’ acquisition of Alex Smith isn’t a home run but a solid double that Washington desperately needed. He speaks with Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt and tight end Travis Kelce about their star quarter back moving on to Washington, and the beginning of the Patrick Mahomes era! Finally, he's joined by Hall of Fame wide receiver Michael Irvin and Saints running back Alvin Kamara! All that and more on The Best of The Doug Gottlieb Show LIVE from Minnesota!
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gonna join us later on in the show, So we
got a ton to get to. But the story of
the day was the story that broke last night. What
is it about? When I get off air in Minneapolis.
Two nights ago, I get off air and Blake Griffin traded.
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Last night, I get off air and Alex Smith is traded. Tonight,
I'll get off air in what's left. It's gonna be
a baseball trade. Right, we had basketball, we had football.
There's gotta be a baseball trade or a baseball signing
Bryce Harper or who else. Uh, Manny Machado, Manny Machado
will be moved tonight. That's got That's the only possible topper.
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And yeah, the first ever sixty point triple double took
place last night. That did in fact happen. Uh guess
Kevin Love got hurt. We'll get of that. But the
story is Kirk Cousins is now out, Alex Smith is in,
and we all knew it's It's not that we didn't
know that Alex Smith was going to be on the move.
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They drafted Pat Mahomes. They traded up to draft Pat Mahomes,
who's got a huge arm. Dad was a pro baseball player,
huge arm, needed a lot of work with his footwork.
But I mean, like he's the polar opposite of Alex Smith. Right,
Alex Smith is safe, Alex Smith is sensible, and they're
swinging for the fences with with Pat Mahomes. And if
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you saw him in the preseason, like dude, and he
saw in Week seventeen, you're like, dude. And so there
was talk of Alex Smith. Well he could go to
Cleveland because John Dorsey's there, he came from Kansas City.
Well he could go to Jacksonville because they would kill
for a safe, smart quarterback that doesn't turn it over.
Well he could go to he couldn't go to Denver
because Denver's in division. Maybe go to to Arizona because
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uh hey, look the last his last great game with
the San Francisco forty Niners. People forget this, before he
lost his job because he had a concussion. He had
basically a perfect game against Arizona Cardinals. On Monday Night Football.
They don't forget they need a quarterback, but instead he's
traded to the Washington Redskins, which kind of answers The
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questions were also always with the Redskins, like all right,
Like if you're not gonna sign Kirk Cousins to a
long term deal, like what is your plan be? Now
we know? And then we we had Kirk Cousins on
the show yesterday. I thought this was an interesting response
when I asked him about some of the comments Jay
Gruden had made after games and after the season with
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regards to his play. People aren't tired of their opinions,
and I've always tried to do my best to ignore
the noise and not not let it get to me.
Certainly take coaching and you know, make sure you use
it to become a better player, not take it personally.
But I understand what he's saying. But the implication is
that you know seven and nine and the quarterback player
the exact same thing. And I think it's slight be
more complicated than that in terms of what takes that
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to have a record. Even if we had gone thirteen
and three, it's not all my responsibility to go thirty
and three, where it's it's all Kirk. You know that
wouldn't happened either. Okay. So here's the way I look
at so many of these things like relationships, okay, and
the Washington Redskins in many ways always thought of Kirk Cousins,
like fourth round pick, Kirk Cousins. They could never get
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over the fact that he was the fourth round pick.
And this happens in a lot of places where you
might you might work. Right, if you're a guy who
started in the mail room and now of a sudden
you're tree, You're you know, you're trying applying to be
a manager. They're like, dude, you're starting the mail room.
This happens in the military, right right, Like there's a
ceiling for an enlisted men in the like wait a second,
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hold on. If you went to West Point, which is great,
it takes unbelievable school, unbelievable grades and work ethic to
get into West Point. But if you're a listed man,
you can never like the chance to there's just ranks
that you'll never achieve even as an enlisted man. There's
just not And that's what Kirk Cousins is. And look,
maybe he doesn't have the stuff to be an officer,
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to be a commander, to be a general in the
Army of the Washington Redskins, Right, But I don't know.
I kind of feel for Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is
probably like that enlisted men, like, dude, you're gonna go
out and get Alex Smith, who's an older version of me. Okay,
you're gonna go out to get Alex Smith, who got
beat out in San Francisco and essentially is getting beat
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out in Kansas City. Like Okay, Now, look, this is
sensible for the Redskins. I'm sure they knew. And when
what happens is with relationships. This is how it relates
to relationships. Hey, I told you. I've told people all week,
all month, really all basketball season. When I give any
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uh negative analysis about your basketball team, and I say,
for example, Perdue one of the top five teams in
the country school record winning streak, when people say, well,
why are you negative, Like, well, they have issues. There's
teams that they struggle to guard because they're not athletic
at center and at their wing spots. But the good
thing is everybody has issues, Right, every relationship I've been
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married seventeen years. My wife and I got an argument
last night. It's over we're not, you know, not carrying
out in public. We got an argument about something kind
of petty. That happens. But when you start, when you're arguing,
arguments start becoming public, when they start to fester, when
everyone knows, like, hey, that's weird. Right, We're at a
dinner party at their house. It was Christmas and they
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were like arguing, like like, oh, they're not gonna make it.
And that's what happened with the Skins and with Kirk.
They're not gonna make it. And you know what kind
of feels like a fair trade. What the Redskins got,
they got cost certainty. They cost certainty. They're like, oh,
seventy million dollars guaranteed, Like okay, but that's not top
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dollar for quarterbacks. That's not crazy money. That's not twenty
million dollars a year. It was like seventeen a year
or something like that, seventeen this year, and average is
out just north of that. Once you kind of break
it down, like okay, that's not crazy money. So you
got above average money, which will end up being you know,
middle of the pack. Four starting quarterbacks. And that's who
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Alex Smith is. And you had cost certainty for four years,
and I think we know how this is gonna go.
Alex Smith's gonna be steady, Alex Smith is gonna be solid.
Alex Smith can take you to the playoffs, and he
can't take you to the super Bowl, right And if
you think that, it's like, well wait a second, why
aren't you trying for the super like? Look at the Redskins.
You've been roller coaster city for years. You gotta fix
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a bunch of other problems. This stabilizes the quarterback. I
can't believe he gave up a third round picking and
a and a and a really good young cornerback. Well,
you gotta give up something to get him. It's not
like the Kansaie Chiefs are gonna go here. Why don't
you take him for free? And for the Chiefs, they
did the best they could with a depreciating asset, right,
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they had a guy to which everyone knew they wanted
to get off the books before the year was over.
And maybe they shot for more, but you end up
getting a third round pick and a guy who can
play right away on a defense that needs some help.
It's a trade. Didn't you ever trade food when you're
in elementary school? Right? Like if you had oreos and
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you want to trade your oreos, you want to get
something back in return. Now, I'm not gonna say that
that Alex Smith is Oreo cookies. He might be Oreo
cookies where you know, one of the tops of him
is kind of peeled off, some of the cream is
that missing? It looks like somebody who took a bite
from one of them, but they're still kind of oreos, right,
And so would you get back in return? You got
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a chocolate milk? Now what becomes fascinated? Where does Kirk
Cousins go? Because Cousins feels like a younger version of
and Alex Smith a guy who will, on some levels
be underappreciated, but maybe it's because we know who he is.
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He's fine. He's not great. He's not Tom Brady, he's
not Aaron Rodgers. He's not the some super elite quarterback.
But he's also not somebody who's gonna throw thirty interceptions
on a year and get and and uh and lead
your coaches to getting fired. It's fine. He's a double.
He's a double. What can we expect from Pat Mahomes.
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One of his closest friends on the team is uh
Kareem Hunt, two rookies who came in together, the third
round pick, the pro bowler yard rusher, the guy who
dropped the football the first time he touched it and
then beat the same New England Patriots almost by himself.
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Kareem Hunt joining me on The Doug Gotlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Pro Bowler, you just finished your rookie season.
This is your your first time on on radio road.
Let me ask you last year this time, where were
you actually? I was down at i MG training, you know,
in Brandonton, Florida. You know I watched it, you know,
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the Falcons Verstah, you know, uh Patriots, Patriots. Yeah, obviously
I knew that, but uh yeah, I was on there
just you know, trying and watching the game with some
of the you know guys. Okay, so, like I mean,
I'm sure you wanted to go higher than being in
the third round, but all things considered, one year later,
to be a pro bowler d Yards rushing to have
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the kind of respect that you get when you walk
around radio row, when you walk around the side of
the Super Bowl, what's this? What's has been like for you?
You know it's uh, it's it's it's been great. You know,
it's something you know, you you would dream of. And
you know back then, I wouldn't think, I think to
be the leading rusher or you know, be a pro
bowler my first year, and you know, it just shows
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how hard you know, I worked for it, and you
know how how hard work really pays off. Okay, So,
first fumble and you're not. You didn't fumble in college.
Like That's one of the things is like, sure hands,
Uh what do you remember about the first time you
touched the football in the NFL game? I remember, you know,
I kind of just me just thinking about before I
went out there, I kind of grabbed the football, you know,
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I was like, Alex, let me feel the football, you know,
get a field for it. I was just thinking about
not making a mistake, and uh, you know what I did.
I went out there and made a mistake on the
first area. So I feel like I was, you know,
just up tied a little bit, and uh, you know
I kind of was a little lacks of days ago
with the football on it. You know, I let it go.
But but one of the things that's special about Andy
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Reid as opposed to a lot there's a lot of
coaches that'll be like, just sit there and figure it out.
I'll go with somebody else. Right, he's young guy, he's
not ready for this. Uh. He obviously believed in you.
I know, teammates believe in you. But then there's something
that you have inside yourself to be able to aid
made a mistake and then you dominated that game from
that point forward. That's kind of one of the most
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remarkable starts in the history of the league. Dude, it's
not just not just this year, Like no one does that.
How do you have that in you to bounce back
from something like that? You know, Uh, it's really just
in my blood, you know, not to just you know,
beat myself up about it. You know, everybody makes mistakes,
and I just knew I was a better player than that,
and uh, it really helped me out knowing that. Andy
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Reid was like, you know, don't worry about it, forget
about it. We're gonna give you the ball next place,
so be So when he told me I was getting
the ball next play, I just started preparing my mind
for what I was gonna do with the ball next play.
And uh, and whoever got in my way, I was
trying to punish him for, you know, me making him withstake.
Kareem Hunt joining us in the duck Ot Lip Show
here on Fox Sports. Face if you've forgotten, because it
was the first game of the season. He had a
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hundred forty eight yards, rushing ninety eight yards, receiving two
hundred forty six total yards and they beat the A
F C champion Patriots on the road to start the season,
and the rest, as they say, is history. Uh, your
quarterback was Alex Smith. We know that. You know, they
had been floated that he could be moved. What was
your reaction when you heard last night that now Pat
Mahomes is your guy, but Alex Smith is now with
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the Washington Redskins. Uh, you know I found out at dinner,
and uh, it was kind of it was really tough,
you know, because you know, me and Alex had a
great connection, and uh, I just know how good of
a player he is, and you know he's he's a leader,
and you know he he loves to win and always
gonna go out there and can beat and he knew
that offense inside out. So uh, just seeing a guy
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like that go, you know, he had his best career
and you know, it just shows you how how big
of a business this is. Yeah, So did where did
somebody tell you at dinner? Did you look at your phone?
Your phone start blowing up? Like somebody told me at dinner. Actually,
my marketing ladies, she showed me on their phone and
I couldn't even believe that. The first person I pick
up and calls tyreek. I'm like, yo, you see this.
He's like you hear what happened? And uh, He's like,
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know what happened? Bro is like, you know Alex is
gone now? I like, no, wait, let me go look
at this. That's amazing today. Pat Pat another rookie when
one of your guys, and we saw him play weeks seventeen.
He tore the preseason. He saw him play it at
Texas Tech. Like he now he's different than Alex, like
that dude has a absolute cannon. So uh, as much
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as playing with Alex was fun and it's like a
vet and he'd seen everything, there is there is something.
There has to be some sort of energy to Pat Mahomes.
This guy's got a shot to be really something. Especially
uh he really does. And Pat is really like my
best friend out there man him hang out all the time,
you know, just outside the way. You'd just told me
Alex was your best friend, you said before you put
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on the like we gotta like You're like, I don't
even like Pat my home, and then all of a
sudden he comes He's my best friend. No, we got
a good connection me and Alex. You know, I like Alex,
but you know Pat is literally like my my guy.
You know, we hang out. I don't hang out with
Alex outside of football, of course, not so special relationship.
This is more personal relationship. Me and me and him
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were like guys. So me and Pat were, you know,
well hang out, go grab something to eat and whatever.
So you know, I'm just excited to see what he
does because I know how talented he is. And you know,
his arm is very crazy. You could throw that ball
seventy yards easily, and you know it, it's so strong
you can't even you know, sometimes you know, you don't
expect him to make these throws, you know, off his
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back foot, you know, on a run, and you know
a lot of things. I like to see it. I
think I see a lot of Brett Farvin him. You
you you learned a lot obviously from that first carry
and to what you did in the game. Uh. Look,
the Chiefs historically have had this problem of big leads
in the playoffs, and you guys had a big Like
I was at halftime, I was shut off the TV.
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It was like, man, this is a rap. They're going on.
kN City is gonna what What did you personally learn
from what happened against Tennessee. Honestly, I just feel like,
you know, as a group, we all relaxed, you know,
and uh, we all got comfortable. We all thought, yeah,
what we're doing after the game. We're going moving on
type deal. And I feel like, you know, we gotta
you know, keep the foot on the pedal the whole
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game and uh, just play like we're down. And honestly,
we gotta really disclose the team out when we already
got them one day back. So you know, once we
started doing that, we're gonna be very unstoppable. It was
a long time ago, but you did gash this Patriots defense,
which is kind of reworked itself. And obviously now, uh
they're in the Super Bowl. What are your thoughts on
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how the Eagles match up with the Paths? How do
you how do you do what you did to the
Pats on Super Bowl Sunday? If you're the Eagles, Honestly,
you just gotta go out there and play physical. You know,
you gotta from the first player, you gotta be very
physical with them. And uh, you know, the Eagles got
three good backs and uh, they just gotta come ready
to play, you know, set the tone up front, and uh,
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you know, just really attack those guys all night long.
And then they gotta let Nick Foles get comfortable back
there and you know, hit his receiving and you know
it's tight end. And I feel like the Eagles will
be all right if they can do that. But uh,
you know, you're it's hard to go against the you know,
the Pats. You know they got you know that guy
on the other side of the field. You know, it's
you know, they got twelve, um and and I think
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that you also have to I mean like, look, um,
you have to keep scoring, right like that. That's kind
of that's kind of that was kind of like if
you look back on in your thing against the Titans,
like you didn't get the ball much in the second half. Um.
And and if you look at Jacksonville, they got a
little bit tight in the second half. When you have
that lead, you gotta keep putting up points because you
know Brady's gonna keep putting up points. Oh yeah, and
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you gotta be ready to stop him all night and
you you you really, I don't think you're gonna stop
and you gotta just maintain them. Uh. The FedEx Air
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you're up for that award. How here's my here's my
challenge to you. Like, look, man, you're still just you know,
you're still just kind of a kid, a dude. How
do you maintain this level being humble like this in
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the next five years? Right like five years from now,
we're gonna have you up here and you're gonna have
a bunch of Pro Bowls and maybe a ring. How
do you? How do you? How can you be the
same guy then that you are now? You know, just
continue doing what I do and hanging out with the
same people I hung out what you know to get
to this point. And uh, I'm really not a person
who liked chains, so I'm really not gonna change much
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at all. And uh, I'm gonna continue doing what I do.
I love a game, of football. And you know, I
don't think anybody can take that from me. Have you
ever seen a human being as fast as Tyree? No? Never,
And uh, it's kind of it's kind of crazy to
see how fast he can pick up speed and you know,
go from zero to a hundred. I mean, it's it's
like like look at my Oklahoma State alum. Like I mean,
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like it's it's crazy, like it's it just has a
different gear than anyone else I've ever seen that gear
that makes teams look like they're in slow motion. And honestly,
he's killing angles. Uh, and then and then the deuces
when he Now where do you keep where do you
come up with that? I mean peace? You know, once
he well, once he's gone, he's gone. But it's like
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the it's the it's the perfect touchdown celebration, right perfect,
like see you later. You know, Well, there's a there's
a new sheriff in towns Pat Mahomes you new quarterback.
Congrats on an outstanding rookie season, the Pro Bowl and
everything will hope you win this award, the FedEx Air
and Ground NFL Player of the Year. Appreciate you being
on Fox Sport. Thank you and You also could tweet
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it by uh uh, hashtag Aaron Ground. So make sure
you go out there and tweet that. So it's wait,
it's hashtag hunt Aaron Ground. Hashtag Aaron Ground. I had
no idea you could do that. Ye, so if you
tweet that, you know how to get the votes. You
had a bit of hunt and then you got a
hashtag here and okay, but but so the hunt doesn't
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have to be connected with the aeron ground. The hashtag
gets picked up, so you might not win in the
online vote, but you could win in the Twitter votes.
All right, big in the Twitter sphere. He's Kareem Hunt.
Thanks so much. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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best in the NFL, and he's also a teammate of
Kareem Hunt. Who you just heard from, Travis Kelsey from
the Chiefs joining me in the Doug Glic Show Fox
Sports Radio. Uh, dude, you were one of Alex Smith's
favorite targets. Tell me where you were when the trade
went down. I had just got off the plane to
be here in Minnesota, and uh, I called my girlfriend
and she told me it's like, I think Alex just
got traded. Immediately hung up the phone and started hitting
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social media. And from there it's just kind of been
in the roller coaster of trying to figure out how
is it? Is it official? Is it not official? Is
it you know? Is he not my quarterback? Is it
is it still in talks? Or what are we doing here?
But um, you know, it seems like it's gonna be,
it's gonna go through, and it seems like, uh, Mahomes
is gonna get his his opportunity, and right now it's
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um all I all I can really think of is just, man,
I wish I would have been, you know, that much
better for Alex when I was playing for him, to
see him have more success than than what he did here. Okay,
let's let's kind of like, look, I think the handwriting
was on the wall when they draft. They traded up
to draft Mahomes and then home Mahomes was better than
anyone could have thought in the preseason. I know, it's
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just preseason, and then he was really good Week seventeen
as well, so it's not like it was a surprise,
but the timing of it was kind of was kind
of surprised, like, man, that happened fast, Like wait a second,
that was that wasn't There wasn't leak rumors. It's just
like bam, they got they got a contract. It like
they've been It's like they've almost been playing in this
for a while and it's UH and it works, the
work through some things or something. I don't know, it's um.
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Like I said, I I'm still shocked by I'm still
trying to find out, you know, figure out words to
say about it. But all I can really say is,
you know, thanks to Alex for everything he's done, not
only for my career and who I am, Um, you
know my first five years that you you couldn't say
my name without saying Alex Smith with it. So I
mean the playoffs four of the five years that he stabilized.
He stabilize you guys. And this is coming off, you know,
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when he led the Niners to the NFC Championship game
and then of course uh was benched after a concussion
and never got his job back with Colin Kaepernick. Um, okay,
so I'll give you what the fan says, and you
tell me the reality. The fan says, Alex Smith is fine,
doesn't turn the ball over, but all he does is
find you and then dump it out to Kareem Hunt,
you know, and occasionally this year he was throwing the
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ball deep to Tyreek. But he's he's safe, he's conservative,
and there's a ceiling there, and so the Chiefs have
a chance. They're going for it with Mahomes who's got
a huge arm and can make all the throw what's
the reality of it. The reality of it is that
Alex Smith just came off a four thousand yards season
um lad the entire NFL in twenty plus yard catches,
in twenty plus yard touchdowns. So saying that he there's
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a ceiling there and you can't really throw the ball downfield, well,
he went out there and did that this year. He's
proved everyone wrong. And I mean, that's why he's got
the huge contract uh over there in Washington because of it.
But I think it's um the finishing games. I think
that's what people are really trying to say he doesn't
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do is either the fourth quarter, when the game's on
the line, where is he This past year, I felt
like he was at the top of his game the
entire season, even even through the five losses, I felt
like he was still playing very good. We just had
the other a lot of things going around. And this
is why it's a team game. Eleven guys are out
there trying to make one goal happen. You can't just
always throw it on the quarterback. You guys are the
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best team in football. And then I'll send he had
injuries getting to the worst team, I mean, and then
all of a sudden they you were good. And then
like I was about to turn the game off at halftime,
you have twenty one three, Like that's a rap. And
then I was like, wait a second, it's the Chiefs.
I gotta keep an eye on this thing. But Tennessee,
they're gonna fire malarkey anyway, is things over? What they'll happened?
I um, I was getting X rays and m R
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I s, I have no idea. What have I still
haven't even watched the second half of that game. I uh,
And all I can hear is here about is guys
were dropping the football, um, and they weren't there for Alex.
And that's what really pisses me off about the entire
him him going somewhere else. Is the fact that you know,
I don't. I don't think it ended here the way
it was supposed to. But at the same time, you
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know it's, um, you have no choice but to move on.
You You mentioned getting m R ees and and getting
X rays. I mean, like, look this scary stuff, dude,
especially a guy who you still haven't gotten the huge payday, right,
you still haven't gotten to the to the point. I
mean like you're well compensated, but you like it's only
five years in. There's still ten more years to go. Really,
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what's that like to go through? Uh? Considering how much
you have a future in the NFL, and I know
you're trying to build a future for yourself out of
the NFL. Yeah, I mean it's um, I don't. I
try to have to think of the after football math
in terms of like physically and how my body is
going to react to me playing as long as I
do in the NFL. I UM, I just try and
go out here, try and live my life the right
way while I while I'm in the NFL. UM, try
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and do the do the small things, the little things
that make the body go, like your shoulders and your
and your and your joints and stuff like that, Just
so you know, when when I do get put in
those awkward situations where I take a huge hit or
I or I or I hit the ground awkward, it's
um my body and my body is a little bit
more ready for it than what it is. And it's
you can't avoid concussions. That's just the name of the game.
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I think the whole head hunting rule is, uh is
a bit exaggerating, a bit over the top and more
of a guy where you know, I'd rather a guy
hit me up top and and lay me out, not
necessarily knocked me out of the game, but I laid
me out, and I feel that hit up top more
than I would want somebody coming after my knees and
blowing up my knee, you know. So it's um. You
just gotta kind of live in the moment and and
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take the game for what it is. I will tell you,
like that sounds that sounds great on radio, but like
you've ever seen some dudes need like come dislocated like well,
you know, I don't like that either. That's why I'm
saying I'd much rather take a shot. You got to
take a shot. I'd rather take a shot, but then
you see, you know whether you get card off or
getting card off a week and a half ago. I've
been fortunate. I've never been carded off, so I'm keeping
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my fingers crossed for that. I did get up looking
like I needed to get cards off, but I did
not get carded off. Okay, So you got to see
a sports party right, Yes, the the a Sports Bowl baby. Um.
Now do you play? Do I play? How do you
play as you? Or do you drive your own team?
I play as the Kansas City Chiefs, and I throw
the ball to one person on the field, so you
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just like ridiculous catches, take number of catches. Either you
double me and then I start throwing at the tyreek
or if it's single coverage or zone, I'm gonna find
a way to throw myself the ball. Um. Okay, so
that's what's your beef with Alba Kamara? You guys, have
you guys have a real beef for a video game?
Be Um? No, definitely not real beef, but definitely beef
without a doubt. I take my video game very seriously
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in the competitiveness. Now, it's definitely gonna are you Are
you the guy? Though? That you get the game. You
get on the game, like, hold on, I gotta set
my audibles or you go with you go with the
default audible. Now nowadays they just got it to where
you can just you you can. As soon as you
said it to your profile, your audible is already set.
So you know what I mean. You can, but definitely
need to change the audible. Ailes are. This is this
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is the great thing. I have an eight year old son,
and right now he thinks I'm the greatest Madden player ever,
right because we play on the same team and he'll he'll,
I'll let him go. Who do you play with? Uh?
We play with the Giants lot because he's Beckham guy.
Beckham catches everything in the game everything. Or we play
with the Chargers because we live in Orange County and
and a bunch of the Chargers live around us. It's
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a rough life. That's a rough life. Listen, you you
went on the reality show and dated thirty women, So
don't tell me about rough life. All right, you're right,
you're right, right, Like you gotta get pretty good. You
have diamond earrings as big as the hubcaps in my
car right now. Of course he is Travis Kelsey good
enough to join us for me A Sports. He's got
himself a new quarterback, and uh, life is generally generally good.
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Although I'm sure you wish you were playing this weekend.
Having you here this weekend's great for uh, not just
for the Chiefs, but the folks of the A. You
know it came waite Man and everybody. Catch the the
A Sports Bowl February first out here will be I mean,
Alvin Camaro will be going head to head. Be sure
to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
(29:29):
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Some guys
just say the playmaker and they're like, okay, you got
my garbon. So cool enough. Hall of Famer joining us,
uh here on set and another super Bowl, another Patriots
super Bowl. But it really is, like it's remarkable. Obviously
we know what befell you and cause your career to
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end too soon. Same thing happened with Troy Aikman. Um,
but like kind of marvel at the fact that Brady
four years old and still doing it, doing it and
doing it at a level that's just incredible and and
and back in this game again. I mean, it is
mind blowing when you remember, and I love now how
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how we are at the network NFL network, because we're
showing all of Tom Brady's combine pictures and when he
ran a forty and you're looking at this man run
a forty yard dash and you say, no way is
he going to play in the NFL. Not only plays,
he's about to win if he wins his six rings.
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It's just incredible. When you talk distance travel for what
you saw to what he's done, it's incredible. And he
still looks great. Can I talk a little Hall of
Fame with you? There's there's, there's t O but now
there's Randy Moss as well. And I know that a
lot of times the way wide receivers always seem to
have to wait longer than they should. Why do they
do that to us? I don't know. It's your sport,
your the health. You tell me, I don't. I don't know.
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If a quarterback sneeze right, he can get in the
Hall of Fame. If he just sneeze correctly, he can
get in. But when it comes to a wide receiver,
and and and we we are the ones that has
that we have to snatch the ball from between heaven
and earth land on one foot while somebody's trying to
take your head off and still try to get to
a touchdown. And and they always do it. They did
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it with our Monk, he was a leader and categories
with rings. They made him wait. And now they're doing
it to t O, which I think is in. They
did it to me Chris Carter as well Carter Michael
Irvin from the NFL Network of course Hall of Famer.
You can fall on Twitter at Michael Irvin. Okay, So
if you're choosing, forget about time weighted time waiting, Moss
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or t O who should go in first? Because right
they're they're both going in. Now, I tell you what
I believe. I believe we're in Minnesota and that those
guys like to make a splash. So there's no way
Randy Moss is not getting in in Minnesota. You see
what I mean? That's the Super Bowls here to announce
Randy Moss in that will that will light up the
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whole city knowing that he got the guy in. So
I believe Randy most is going in, but I believe
t O should be in also. T O should be
in and hope for me they'll get him both the
end this year, because I know that would be a
hard O t O. If random most goes in and
he's still is not easy. Okay, let's continue to the
wide receiver talk with one of the great great wide
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receivers in modern football era would be hard. Not he
has not taking it well, it is it has been.
I mean he's still like you know, he just lashes
out here like, yo, look I'm not on the committee. Okay,
I'm not in. Really, don't lash out at me. I
saw him an event, that charity event this summer, and
like you, asked him about it and he goes, he goes.
It's like all of a sudden, he loses his mind
(32:42):
for a second and he realized he's not yet in
the Hall of Fame. To tell him, man, listen, I
had to tell him, man. We were doing this commercial
together and I was like, t O, listen, man, I promise, man,
you're going to be there. And I said, you just
gotta understand what you're fighting for now. It's not you
fighting against the get the voters. Is you fighting for
that bust in that name in the hall and your
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kids your great great great great great grand will walk
that hall and said, that's my great great great granddad
and what's in him? He's in me? And it inspised him.
I said, you gotta think on that turn. Let me
ask you about Dez Bryant. Um. Look, you're still synonymous
obviously with the Cowboys. How do you what do you
do if you're gonna advise Jerry, if you're gonna you
gonna sit down and you're gonna get in a restaurant
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in the Jerry on one side, Dez and the other
and des probably pay a little bit too much money,
and Jerry like to pay him less. But your cowboy,
on the other hand, Dez doesn't appear to be the guy,
or at least this year, he didn't appear to be
the guy that he had been in the past. How
do you hand how do you mediate that conversation? Well,
I I think this year what the Cowboys should do
and and I tell you, and I talked to Jerry
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about it. I I would tell him that was a
tough year all around last year, you know. And it's
one thing that people always talk about. We need to
make a decision on da is we need to do
this we you're talking about getting rid of one person it,
but who are you bringing in? Number one receivers are
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uneasily found. Our teams will have two or three on
each team. Is he still a number one wide series?
Oh my god, Mands Briant still has the physical skill
seat and still is a number one wide receiver. Now,
this year was a different year. I just thought it
was a different year and a tough year for him,
But there's no doubt in my mind he still has
number one wide receiver capabilities and ability. When Romo called
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some cowboy games, he continued to kind of reiterate like, hey,
you gotta throw it up to him, you gotta go
let him make a play. And it seemed like Doc
wasn't necessarily comfortable with the way in which Romo tried
to get DEVI going, how much how much of the
blame falls on the hands of the second year quarterback?
And Doc, Well, there there's some I don't want to
call it blame, but there's certainly some growth there, you know.
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And when Tony and I would talk about that, you
know Tony would know, Okay, you you learned x is
and ohs of a game. You learn how to read defenses, okay,
but out now. The next level of quarterback and in
which I'm sure Doc will get too soon, is you
start seeing things like like Canon Roger sees things where
he's not even letting you get on it off the field,
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but he's getting you off sides. All you start seeing
things like what Tony Romo was talking about. I know
more than next is and ols. I know. I know
the emotions of this team. So sometimes I'm just going
off reading throwing the disk. So what right positive attitude
to go through my team? Here? Here's here's how I
liked it. The basketball analogy for me, I play with
the guy dosn't Mason played ten years in the NBA
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when I was in college, And if you got him
a dunk early in the game, his defense is better. Okay,
So he'sn't that kind of the secret with Jall and something.
And then all of sudden, a block for you is
attitude is better. He's gonna keep asking for the ball
and that's okay, and that's okay, and and his great
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attitude becomes very effects on on the whole football team
because now he's lifting everybody up. No turner. I I
went in North Turner. One time, I say, North were
you know, we were getting ready for a game, and
I was about to tell him I want to get
involved early. And I said, you know, if he said,
don't even try it, Michael, he said, already know, don't
even say it. Don't even say I'm gonna get involved.
Or I said, okay, Loans, it's on your mind, and
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I walked off. You know. But but almost a lot
of receivers are like that, and and they and they
definitely have to get him involved earlier. Now, let me
tell you something too. He knows that cameras on him
and and they know it. And every time he's not
getting an opportunity to make up play, everybody's talking about
the same things you're talking about, and obviously it gets
to him, and you see some of it may explode
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on the sideline because he wants to prove that he's
still gonna play. But he needs those he needs those
opportunities there, and I think he should get him this.
Let me ask you about the story of the day.
The Washington Redskins are gonna puss and they and they
go and they get Alex Smith. Yeah, kind of feels
sort of like the same guy right, like safe quarterback
who you know, the middle of the pack. But they
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like something happened there with them and Cousins. They could
never figure out the long term solution. Are the Redskins
better today and they were yesterday? Are they worse than
the same? I would say they're better. I thought Redskins.
First of all, we keep talking, you wouldn't have to
pay Kirk Cousin. He wanted to be the highest paid
quarterback in the National Football League. That that's kind of
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money he's looking for. Right there, we can all agree.
So you got you got Alex Smith for a better
deal from that perspective, you know, and and and and
Kirk Cousins. I'll let Aaron Rodgers. I'll pay him the
highest peak. You know why, because even if I gotta
sell parts stuff around him, Aaron Rodgers going to raise
that up anyway. Russell Russell Wilson, he raised his stuff up.
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I can't give it the Kurt. I can't give it
the Curt. I need players to raise Kurt up because
he's not going to be raising those players up. So
I understand that. So you spend a little less money
on Alex Smith, and then you go and get some
players that can help raise alex U. Yeah. Danna Jeremiah,
who works for you guys in the NFL network, he
says that you're either truck or trailer right there. The
truck you pull, let you pull everything along. You're the trailer.
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You just kind of along for the ride. And you're
describing Kirk Cousins as more of a trailer, right, Like,
maybe a little bit more than a trailer, you know
what I mean, he's getting some things to do. Maybe
he's the thing that connect the truck in the tree.
What is it? What is that called the little ball
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on the back of the trailer hits the trailer. But
but I think that, yeah, that's a hard thing to
turn around. And I have to get Kirk Cousins all
that money and think about this. Every year he's never
had more than ten wins in a season. So they're saying,
you're a middlewora pack quarterback. You bring us in the
middle of the pack records, take some middle of the money,
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take the middle of pack winning. It's just business, yes,
and it is. By the way, you can check out
Michael NFL Networks doing a great thing. It's called NFL
Players Only. That's tomorrow Thursday and Friday eight o'clock Eastern
time for Minneapolis. So only former players, none of the
none of the talking, and none of the host the
traffic copping, just players on the podcast, right. Yeah. And
it's fun like that too, because you get guys more loose,
(39:08):
you know what I mean. More They feel like they
can share more stories, to tell more and everything. So
it's real fun when we can do that. Not that
we don't enjoy having my guy retirees and all of
those guys around too. They're good guys. But but it's
something else when this players, only the great Michael Irvin,
the playmaker, the Hall of Famer. Check them out in
the NFL Network all weekend long. Of course, their pregame
coverage starts at nine am Super Bowl Sunday. You're not
(39:32):
a yeah, yeah, we'll be on nine, you know, do
whatever you gotta do. Wake up and watch us, go
to sleep, come back up, wake back up. Still we'll
be on. Go run your errands, take away, go go
get two kids, pick them up, take him to the park,
come back home. We'll still turn your TV back on us.
Thanks so much having me appreciate al right, be sure
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to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. If you
want to say running back, if you want to say
kind of slash position, joker position, he's wide receiver, he's
a little bit everything. He's a pro bowler. Is one
of the top running backs in the NFL, and he's
only a rookie. It's Alvin Kamara of the New Orleans
(40:14):
Saints joining us in the Dugout Lip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, look, I'm I'm watching you walk
around Radio row and considering your journey two different SEC schools,
junior college in the middle, drafted in the third round,
and now you're getting all this respect, all this love
for your performance all season on the football field. What
what's it been like for you? I mean, just it's
(40:34):
it's amazing, you know, just being able to have that
success and and getting the respect. You know, I mean
a lot of a lot of people tell me, like,
you know you've been this is what you deserve, but
this is you know, you gotta keep a humble, humblehead.
How do you do that? I mean, I'll just remember
everything I've been through, you know, everything that I went
through to get here, and it's like without without those things,
you know, I wouldn't be where I'm at without my
(40:55):
my mom staying in my ear. I wouldn't be where
I'm at without my uncle, you know. So like like
your mom, Okay, so, um, like Alabama, there's just too
many dudes there. Um, obviously we know you were you
know you like when you were you got you got
butch Jones at not getting the opportunity. What was your
mom telling you the whole time? Yeah, so Bama. At first,
(41:15):
she didn't want me to leave Bama, but you know,
I'm hard hitted left. I mean it works like like
like what like you're on the phone with her and
she come up and see you on the phone and
she's like, you know you just stay, you know you
need to stay like it's h a right, yeah, just
be patient. And it wasn't really that much of a
thing where you know, it was too many guys, of course,
I mean it's not that it's not a lot of
footballs to go around that many guys, especially at the
(41:36):
same position, but it was like, you know, got her
early and and it was just like one of those
things where I just didn't feel good there anymore. Like
I didn't feel comfortable. And you know, I mean, plus,
you're not really I don't want to speak out of turn,
but you're not really their style of back, right, Like,
Like what what Sean Payton is able to do with
you is he can use you anywhere, right, your your
Swiss army knife, right, and so you can line you
(41:57):
up as a running back or you can split you
out wide. Now you got got a linebacker on you. Okay,
we know where we're going, right, But that's not how
they that's not how they roll at Bama. Um, even
when you were there, when you guys start running some
spread stuff, you still kind of have traditional running backs?
Was that part of what didn't work there? I mean
I wasn't really worried about that. I mean, I feel
like I can I can do as as long as
I get to touches, I can do you know, whatever
(42:18):
any other running back can do. But you know, it
just didn't. I just felt like, you know, it was
my time was up there. So I made the transition,
all right. So so you go to the Saints and
when you were drafted, would they tell you be ready? Period?
You know, be ready. You know, I kind of knew
what my role was coming in, kind of playing that
joker position like Reggie and yeah, so you know I
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didn't I didn't know it was gonna take off like that,
but you know, I was just I came in and
I was like, all right, let me just keep an
open mind and attack everything that that's put on my plate.
That's really amazing that you mentioned Darren, Darren Sprowls, Reggie
being Reggie Bush and they found a way to isolate
you and find mismatches for you. So it's and look,
is it your talent, yeah, is it your drive? Yeah,
but it's also John Payton and Drew Brees understanding how
(43:02):
to find mismatches for sir. It's definitely that fit, you know.
And I give a lot of credit to to Drew
and Coach Payton, uh for just you know, putting me
in position to be able to be successful. You know,
those guys are like they're so cerebral, like you know,
it raises the the like your your mental just being
around them, like just being able to get in those
(43:22):
mismatches and understand the game more like, I mean, you
got to be in tune, does it. It's still hurt.
I mean, we're only a couple of weeks from it.
Everyone felt like it was over. You and I talked,
you thought it was over. Still hurt? Yeah, I mean
it does, you know, because I feel like we could
still be playing. I feel like we should be playing
in this game. But you know, it just creates more
more drawing for next year. People have have asked about
your relationship with Mark Ingram, and they, I think a
(43:45):
lot of us are like, hey, you guys talking about touches.
You guys are fighting over the same touches. How could
you possibly be boys? But everywhere I've read everything I've heard,
you guys are super tight. Is that is that accurate? Yeah,
it's it's accurate. We're not fighting over too if if Mark,
if I if, we're honest with each other. So you know,
I know Mark, Mark's play might be that inside his
own play. So I'm like, shoot, that's what you do.
(44:07):
You do it better than me. So I want to
get like we we we want to be in the
best position to win, in the best position to be
productive and efficient in that play. He knows, like, all right, bro,
you you run the slant good, like you do that,
like you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's
one of those things where we understand each other, we
want each other to do well. So it's one of
those things where I don't want to put him in
this position to where he won't be able to be
(44:28):
underpercent effective, and it's vice versa. There's this there's this
uh perfect number for Drew Brees right. So Drew has
been uh handsomely compensated the past couple of years. Now
he's a free agent. He's like, look, I want to
stay in Nola, but he ain't gonna play for free.
On the other hand, you can't all the money, even
the money he right rightfully deserved, because everybody you gotta
(44:48):
you gotta put a whole team around you. Guys, how
how much how engaged are you and Withdrew as far
as where he is with coming back inside of don
we don't even we don't even talk about that. You know,
we're together the whole probo week, and it's like we're
just having fun and enjoying like being with the fam.
You know, his kids running around playing like Drew. Drew
is not you know, he's not worried about that, Like
he said, he wants to be a NOLA. Um. You know,
(45:10):
I think without front office, they'll figure it out. Um.
And I feel like I feel like Dre gonna be
our quarterback next year. I don't really think, you know,
I don't really deal with that. You you've been through
one full season. Everybody likes to add something to their game.
But the beauty to you is you do you seemingly
do almost everything? Well, what is there something you want
to add? Is there a next step that you want
(45:31):
to take? I think I just I want to. I
want to I want to shopping up my footwork, you know,
I mean, you know, you see all those footwork drills
on like Twitter and Instagram, Like I want to shop
in my footwork up in my hands, you know, just
those awkward, awkward positions catches and you know, just locating
the ball. You're gonna be O, G, O, B J
in it. You're gonna be doing all that one hand
that I'm I'm gonna probably go get with him and
(45:52):
you know, get with Antonio and get with some of
those guys and just you know, find out just a
little tricks. You know, it's year two now, so you
gotta you gotta add something every year. Yeah, I know, Like,
but I'm sure people probably tried Tapeman. The speed of league.
It's gonna wear you down's gonna beat you up. You're
through one year, You're like, this is kind of I'm
kind of good. Yeah, I'm feeling good. You know. It's
it's just it's all about how you take care of
your body. And you know, a lot of guys they're
telling me that, from Mark to Antonio to you know
(46:13):
all those guys. Man, they're like, man, take care of
your buddy, because that's what's gonna pay you. And it
is so Alvin Kamara joining US Pro Bowl running back
I had an incredible year with New Orleans Saints. Joining US.
He's part of the Visio Top Value Performer Award. But
the t v P Award also means dude, underpaid. That
means you're underpaid, right you. Alex Collins, Jordan Howard uh
and uh and Jered McKinnon, Um, make all right, make
(46:37):
the pitch why you should be the t v P
Award winner. Man, look I won that, but you know
what I mean, I'll make Let me make the sale
for you. Yeah, you do it, Like how many of
your fantasy football leagues did I win for you. Right.
Think about that because you you're speaking to the fan now,
right saying like like, uh, think think about where I
was drafted, how you thought of me, and think about
(46:59):
how how how much you cheered for me, regardless of
who your team was. On Sunday you look what Alvin
Kamara was doing. Like all right, as a payback all
I'm asking. I'm not asking a lot. I'm asking to
vote for me on the TV P boy, look you
said it. All right, there we go. I can be
I can be spoke. I can be your hyping. Then
when you win it and next year you have the belt,
I'll be your hype man. I'll come in with the belt.
I'm Alvin kamars Man. Hey, congrats in the first year.
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talk about with the Kansiy Chiefs. No, No, Shan O'Hara
will join us. Super Bowl champion of the New York Giants.
Not a lot of talk about with the Giants is here. No,
No Travis Kelsey with Kansiy Chiefs. He'll join us in
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got a ton to get to. But the story of
the day was the story that broke last night. What
is it about? When I get off air in Minneapolis.
Two nights ago, I get off air and Blake Griffin traded.
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Last night, I get off air and Alex Smith is traded. Tonight,
I'll get off air in what's left. It's gonna be
a baseball trade. Right, we had basketball, we had football.
There's gotta be a baseball trade or a baseball signing
Bryce Harper or who else. Uh, Manny Machado, Manny Machado
will be moved tonight. That's got That's the only possible topper.
(01:51):
And yeah, the first ever sixty point triple double took
place last night. That did in fact happen. Uh guess
Kevin Love got hurt. We'll get of that. But the
story is Kirk Cousins is now out, Alex Smith is in,
and we all knew it's It's not that we didn't
know that Alex Smith was going to be on the move.
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They drafted Pat Mahomes. They traded up to draft Pat Mahomes,
who's got a huge arm. Dad was a pro baseball player,
huge arm, needed a lot of work with his footwork.
But I mean, like he's the polar opposite of Alex Smith. Right,
Alex Smith is safe, Alex Smith is sensible, and they're
swinging for the fences with with Pat Mahomes. And if
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you saw him in the preseason, like dude, and he
saw in Week seventeen, you're like, dude. And so there
was talk of Alex Smith. Well he could go to
Cleveland because John Dorsey's there, he came from Kansas City.
Well he could go to Jacksonville because they would kill
for a safe, smart quarterback that doesn't turn it over.
Well he could go to he couldn't go to Denver
because Denver's in division. Maybe go to to Arizona because
(02:58):
uh hey, look the last his last great game with
the San Francisco forty Niners. People forget this, before he
lost his job because he had a concussion. He had
basically a perfect game against Arizona Cardinals. On Monday Night Football.
They don't forget they need a quarterback, but instead he's
traded to the Washington Redskins, which kind of answers The
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questions were also always with the Redskins, like all right,
Like if you're not gonna sign Kirk Cousins to a
long term deal, like what is your plan be? Now
we know? And then we we had Kirk Cousins on
the show yesterday. I thought this was an interesting response
when I asked him about some of the comments Jay
Gruden had made after games and after the season with
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regards to his play. People aren't tired of their opinions,
and I've always tried to do my best to ignore
the noise and not not let it get to me.
Certainly take coaching and you know, make sure you use
it to become a better player, not take it personally.
But I understand what he's saying. But the implication is
that you know seven and nine and the quarterback player
the exact same thing. And I think it's slight be
more complicated than that in terms of what takes that
(04:02):
to have a record. Even if we had gone thirteen
and three, it's not all my responsibility to go thirty
and three, where it's it's all Kirk. You know that
wouldn't happened either. Okay. So here's the way I look
at so many of these things like relationships, okay, and
the Washington Redskins in many ways always thought of Kirk Cousins,
like fourth round pick, Kirk Cousins. They could never get
(04:24):
over the fact that he was the fourth round pick.
And this happens in a lot of places where you
might you might work. Right, if you're a guy who
started in the mail room and now of a sudden
you're tree, You're you know, you're trying applying to be
a manager. They're like, dude, you're starting the mail room.
This happens in the military, right right, Like there's a
ceiling for an enlisted men in the like wait a second,
(04:44):
hold on. If you went to West Point, which is great,
it takes unbelievable school, unbelievable grades and work ethic to
get into West Point. But if you're a listed man,
you can never like the chance to there's just ranks
that you'll never achieve even as an enlisted man. There's
just not And that's what Kirk Cousins is. And look,
maybe he doesn't have the stuff to be an officer,
(05:06):
to be a commander, to be a general in the
Army of the Washington Redskins, Right, But I don't know.
I kind of feel for Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is
probably like that enlisted men, like, dude, you're gonna go
out and get Alex Smith, who's an older version of me. Okay,
you're gonna go out to get Alex Smith, who got
beat out in San Francisco and essentially is getting beat
(05:28):
out in Kansas City. Like Okay, Now, look, this is
sensible for the Redskins. I'm sure they knew. And when
what happens is with relationships. This is how it relates
to relationships. Hey, I told you. I've told people all week,
all month, really all basketball season. When I give any
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uh negative analysis about your basketball team, and I say,
for example, Perdue one of the top five teams in
the country school record winning streak, when people say, well,
why are you negative, Like, well, they have issues. There's
teams that they struggle to guard because they're not athletic
at center and at their wing spots. But the good
thing is everybody has issues, Right, every relationship I've been
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married seventeen years. My wife and I got an argument
last night. It's over we're not, you know, not carrying
out in public. We got an argument about something kind
of petty. That happens. But when you start, when you're arguing,
arguments start becoming public, when they start to fester, when
everyone knows, like, hey, that's weird. Right, We're at a
dinner party at their house. It was Christmas and they
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were like arguing, like like, oh, they're not gonna make it.
And that's what happened with the Skins and with Kirk.
They're not gonna make it. And you know what kind
of feels like a fair trade. What the Redskins got,
they got cost certainty. They cost certainty. They're like, oh,
seventy million dollars guaranteed, Like okay, but that's not top
(06:57):
dollar for quarterbacks. That's not crazy money. That's not twenty
million dollars a year. It was like seventeen a year
or something like that, seventeen this year, and average is
out just north of that. Once you kind of break
it down, like okay, that's not crazy money. So you
got above average money, which will end up being you know,
middle of the pack. Four starting quarterbacks. And that's who
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Alex Smith is. And you had cost certainty for four years,
and I think we know how this is gonna go.
Alex Smith's gonna be steady, Alex Smith is gonna be solid.
Alex Smith can take you to the playoffs, and he
can't take you to the super Bowl, right And if
you think that, it's like, well wait a second, why
aren't you trying for the super like? Look at the Redskins.
You've been roller coaster city for years. You gotta fix
(07:40):
a bunch of other problems. This stabilizes the quarterback. I
can't believe he gave up a third round picking and
a and a and a really good young cornerback. Well,
you gotta give up something to get him. It's not
like the Kansaie Chiefs are gonna go here. Why don't
you take him for free? And for the Chiefs, they
did the best they could with a depreciating asset, right,
(08:03):
they had a guy to which everyone knew they wanted
to get off the books before the year was over.
And maybe they shot for more, but you end up
getting a third round pick and a guy who can
play right away on a defense that needs some help.
It's a trade. Didn't you ever trade food when you're
in elementary school? Right? Like if you had oreos and
(08:25):
you want to trade your oreos, you want to get
something back in return. Now, I'm not gonna say that
that Alex Smith is Oreo cookies. He might be Oreo
cookies where you know, one of the tops of him
is kind of peeled off, some of the cream is
that missing? It looks like somebody who took a bite
from one of them, but they're still kind of oreos, right,
And so would you get back in return? You got
(08:47):
a chocolate milk? Now what becomes fascinated? Where does Kirk
Cousins go? Because Cousins feels like a younger version of
and Alex Smith a guy who will, on some levels
be underappreciated, but maybe it's because we know who he is.
(09:08):
He's fine. He's not great. He's not Tom Brady, he's
not Aaron Rodgers. He's not the some super elite quarterback.
But he's also not somebody who's gonna throw thirty interceptions
on a year and get and and uh and lead
your coaches to getting fired. It's fine. He's a double.
He's a double. What can we expect from Pat Mahomes.
(09:34):
One of his closest friends on the team is uh
Kareem Hunt, two rookies who came in together, the third
round pick, the pro bowler yard rusher, the guy who
dropped the football the first time he touched it and
then beat the same New England Patriots almost by himself.
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(11:23):
Kareem Hunt joining me on The Doug Gotlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Pro Bowler, you just finished your rookie season.
This is your your first time on on radio road.
Let me ask you last year this time, where were
you actually? I was down at i MG training, you know,
in Brandonton, Florida. You know I watched it, you know,
(11:44):
the Falcons Verstah, you know, uh Patriots, Patriots. Yeah, obviously
I knew that, but uh yeah, I was on there
just you know, trying and watching the game with some
of the you know guys. Okay, so, like I mean,
I'm sure you wanted to go higher than being in
the third round, but all things considered, one year later,
to be a pro bowler d Yards rushing to have
(12:05):
the kind of respect that you get when you walk
around radio row, when you walk around the side of
the Super Bowl, what's this? What's has been like for you?
You know it's uh, it's it's it's been great. You know,
it's something you know, you you would dream of. And
you know back then, I wouldn't think, I think to
be the leading rusher or you know, be a pro
bowler my first year, and you know, it just shows
(12:27):
how hard you know, I worked for it, and you
know how how hard work really pays off. Okay, So,
first fumble and you're not. You didn't fumble in college.
Like That's one of the things is like, sure hands,
Uh what do you remember about the first time you
touched the football in the NFL game? I remember, you know,
I kind of just me just thinking about before I
went out there, I kind of grabbed the football, you know,
(12:49):
I was like, Alex, let me feel the football, you know,
get a field for it. I was just thinking about
not making a mistake, and uh, you know what I did.
I went out there and made a mistake on the
first area. So I feel like I was, you know,
just up tied a little bit, and uh, you know
I kind of was a little lacks of days ago
with the football on it. You know, I let it go.
But but one of the things that's special about Andy
(13:10):
Reid as opposed to a lot there's a lot of
coaches that'll be like, just sit there and figure it out.
I'll go with somebody else. Right, he's young guy, he's
not ready for this. Uh. He obviously believed in you.
I know, teammates believe in you. But then there's something
that you have inside yourself to be able to aid
made a mistake and then you dominated that game from
that point forward. That's kind of one of the most
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remarkable starts in the history of the league. Dude, it's
not just not just this year, Like no one does that.
How do you have that in you to bounce back
from something like that? You know, Uh, it's really just
in my blood, you know, not to just you know,
beat myself up about it. You know, everybody makes mistakes,
and I just knew I was a better player than that,
and uh, it really helped me out knowing that. Andy
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Reid was like, you know, don't worry about it, forget
about it. We're gonna give you the ball next place,
so be So when he told me I was getting
the ball next play, I just started preparing my mind
for what I was gonna do with the ball next play.
And uh, and whoever got in my way, I was
trying to punish him for, you know, me making him withstake.
Kareem Hunt joining us in the duck Ot Lip Show
here on Fox Sports. Face if you've forgotten, because it
was the first game of the season. He had a
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hundred forty eight yards, rushing ninety eight yards, receiving two
hundred forty six total yards and they beat the A
F C champion Patriots on the road to start the season,
and the rest, as they say, is history. Uh, your
quarterback was Alex Smith. We know that. You know, they
had been floated that he could be moved. What was
your reaction when you heard last night that now Pat
Mahomes is your guy, but Alex Smith is now with
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the Washington Redskins. Uh, you know I found out at dinner,
and uh, it was kind of it was really tough,
you know, because you know, me and Alex had a
great connection, and uh, I just know how good of
a player he is, and you know he's he's a leader,
and you know he he loves to win and always
gonna go out there and can beat and he knew
that offense inside out. So uh, just seeing a guy
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like that go, you know, he had his best career
and you know, it just shows you how how big
of a business this is. Yeah, So did where did
somebody tell you at dinner? Did you look at your phone?
Your phone start blowing up? Like somebody told me at dinner. Actually,
my marketing ladies, she showed me on their phone and
I couldn't even believe that. The first person I pick
up and calls tyreek. I'm like, yo, you see this.
He's like you hear what happened? And uh, He's like,
(15:19):
know what happened? Bro is like, you know Alex is
gone now? I like, no, wait, let me go look
at this. That's amazing today. Pat Pat another rookie when
one of your guys, and we saw him play weeks seventeen.
He tore the preseason. He saw him play it at
Texas Tech. Like he now he's different than Alex, like
that dude has a absolute cannon. So uh, as much
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as playing with Alex was fun and it's like a
vet and he'd seen everything, there is there is something.
There has to be some sort of energy to Pat Mahomes.
This guy's got a shot to be really something. Especially
uh he really does. And Pat is really like my
best friend out there man him hang out all the time,
you know, just outside the way. You'd just told me
Alex was your best friend, you said before you put
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on the like we gotta like You're like, I don't
even like Pat my home, and then all of a
sudden he comes He's my best friend. No, we got
a good connection me and Alex. You know, I like Alex,
but you know Pat is literally like my my guy.
You know, we hang out. I don't hang out with
Alex outside of football, of course, not so special relationship.
This is more personal relationship. Me and me and him
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were like guys. So me and Pat were, you know,
well hang out, go grab something to eat and whatever.
So you know, I'm just excited to see what he
does because I know how talented he is. And you know,
his arm is very crazy. You could throw that ball
seventy yards easily, and you know it, it's so strong
you can't even you know, sometimes you know, you don't
expect him to make these throws, you know, off his
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back foot, you know, on a run, and you know
a lot of things. I like to see it. I
think I see a lot of Brett Farvin him. You
you you learned a lot obviously from that first carry
and to what you did in the game. Uh. Look,
the Chiefs historically have had this problem of big leads
in the playoffs, and you guys had a big Like
I was at halftime, I was shut off the TV.
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It was like, man, this is a rap. They're going on.
kN City is gonna what What did you personally learn
from what happened against Tennessee. Honestly, I just feel like,
you know, as a group, we all relaxed, you know,
and uh, we all got comfortable. We all thought, yeah,
what we're doing after the game. We're going moving on
type deal. And I feel like, you know, we gotta
you know, keep the foot on the pedal the whole
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game and uh, just play like we're down. And honestly,
we gotta really disclose the team out when we already
got them one day back. So you know, once we
started doing that, we're gonna be very unstoppable. It was
a long time ago, but you did gash this Patriots defense,
which is kind of reworked itself. And obviously now, uh
they're in the Super Bowl. What are your thoughts on
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how the Eagles match up with the Paths? How do
you how do you do what you did to the
Pats on Super Bowl Sunday? If you're the Eagles, Honestly,
you just gotta go out there and play physical. You know,
you gotta from the first player, you gotta be very
physical with them. And uh, you know, the Eagles got
three good backs and uh, they just gotta come ready
to play, you know, set the tone up front, and uh,
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you know, just really attack those guys all night long.
And then they gotta let Nick Foles get comfortable back
there and you know, hit his receiving and you know
it's tight end. And I feel like the Eagles will
be all right if they can do that. But uh,
you know, you're it's hard to go against the you know,
the Pats. You know they got you know that guy
on the other side of the field. You know, it's
you know, they got twelve, um and and I think
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that you also have to I mean like, look, um,
you have to keep scoring, right like that. That's kind
of that's kind of that was kind of like if
you look back on in your thing against the Titans,
like you didn't get the ball much in the second half. Um.
And and if you look at Jacksonville, they got a
little bit tight in the second half. When you have
that lead, you gotta keep putting up points because you
know Brady's gonna keep putting up points. Oh yeah, and
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you gotta be ready to stop him all night and
you you you really, I don't think you're gonna stop
and you gotta just maintain them. Uh. The FedEx Air
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You go to NFL dot com slash uh FedEx. FedEx
will make a five donation to the USO in the
name of both the winning quarterback and running back. Obviously
you're up for that award. How here's my here's my
challenge to you. Like, look, man, you're still just you know,
you're still just kind of a kid, a dude. How
do you maintain this level being humble like this in
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the next five years? Right like five years from now,
we're gonna have you up here and you're gonna have
a bunch of Pro Bowls and maybe a ring. How
do you? How do you? How can you be the
same guy then that you are now? You know, just
continue doing what I do and hanging out with the
same people I hung out what you know to get
to this point. And uh, I'm really not a person
who liked chains, so I'm really not gonna change much
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at all. And uh, I'm gonna continue doing what I do.
I love a game, of football. And you know, I
don't think anybody can take that from me. Have you
ever seen a human being as fast as Tyree? No? Never,
And uh, it's kind of it's kind of crazy to
see how fast he can pick up speed and you know,
go from zero to a hundred. I mean, it's it's
like like look at my Oklahoma State alum. Like I mean,
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like it's it's crazy, like it's it just has a
different gear than anyone else I've ever seen that gear
that makes teams look like they're in slow motion. And honestly,
he's killing angles. Uh, and then and then the deuces
when he Now where do you keep where do you
come up with that? I mean peace? You know, once
he well, once he's gone, he's gone. But it's like
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the it's the it's the perfect touchdown celebration, right perfect,
like see you later. You know, Well, there's a there's
a new sheriff in towns Pat Mahomes you new quarterback.
Congrats on an outstanding rookie season, the Pro Bowl and
everything will hope you win this award, the FedEx Air
and Ground NFL Player of the Year. Appreciate you being
on Fox Sport. Thank you and You also could tweet
(20:58):
it by uh uh, hashtag Aaron Ground. So make sure
you go out there and tweet that. So it's wait,
it's hashtag hunt Aaron Ground. Hashtag Aaron Ground. I had
no idea you could do that. Ye, so if you
tweet that, you know how to get the votes. You
had a bit of hunt and then you got a
hashtag here and okay, but but so the hunt doesn't
(21:20):
have to be connected with the aeron ground. The hashtag
gets picked up, so you might not win in the
online vote, but you could win in the Twitter votes.
All right, big in the Twitter sphere. He's Kareem Hunt.
Thanks so much. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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(21:41):
best in the NFL, and he's also a teammate of
Kareem Hunt. Who you just heard from, Travis Kelsey from
the Chiefs joining me in the Doug Glic Show Fox
Sports Radio. Uh, dude, you were one of Alex Smith's
favorite targets. Tell me where you were when the trade
went down. I had just got off the plane to
be here in Minnesota, and uh, I called my girlfriend
and she told me it's like, I think Alex just
got traded. Immediately hung up the phone and started hitting
(22:04):
social media. And from there it's just kind of been
in the roller coaster of trying to figure out how
is it? Is it official? Is it not official? Is
it you know? Is he not my quarterback? Is it
is it still in talks? Or what are we doing here?
But um, you know, it seems like it's gonna be,
it's gonna go through, and it seems like, uh, Mahomes
is gonna get his his opportunity, and right now it's
(22:24):
um all I all I can really think of is just, man,
I wish I would have been, you know, that much
better for Alex when I was playing for him, to
see him have more success than than what he did here. Okay,
let's let's kind of like, look, I think the handwriting
was on the wall when they draft. They traded up
to draft Mahomes and then home Mahomes was better than
anyone could have thought in the preseason. I know, it's
(22:44):
just preseason, and then he was really good Week seventeen
as well, so it's not like it was a surprise,
but the timing of it was kind of was kind
of surprised, like, man, that happened fast, Like wait a second,
that was that wasn't There wasn't leak rumors. It's just
like bam, they got they got a contract. It like
they've been It's like they've almost been playing in this
for a while and it's UH and it works, the
work through some things or something. I don't know, it's um.
(23:08):
Like I said, I I'm still shocked by I'm still
trying to find out, you know, figure out words to
say about it. But all I can really say is,
you know, thanks to Alex for everything he's done, not
only for my career and who I am, Um, you
know my first five years that you you couldn't say
my name without saying Alex Smith with it. So I
mean the playoffs four of the five years that he stabilized.
He stabilize you guys. And this is coming off, you know,
(23:29):
when he led the Niners to the NFC Championship game
and then of course uh was benched after a concussion
and never got his job back with Colin Kaepernick. Um, okay,
so I'll give you what the fan says, and you
tell me the reality. The fan says, Alex Smith is fine,
doesn't turn the ball over, but all he does is
find you and then dump it out to Kareem Hunt,
you know, and occasionally this year he was throwing the
(23:49):
ball deep to Tyreek. But he's he's safe, he's conservative,
and there's a ceiling there, and so the Chiefs have
a chance. They're going for it with Mahomes who's got
a huge arm and can make all the throw what's
the reality of it. The reality of it is that
Alex Smith just came off a four thousand yards season
um lad the entire NFL in twenty plus yard catches,
in twenty plus yard touchdowns. So saying that he there's
(24:12):
a ceiling there and you can't really throw the ball downfield, well,
he went out there and did that this year. He's
proved everyone wrong. And I mean, that's why he's got
the huge contract uh over there in Washington because of it.
But I think it's um the finishing games. I think
that's what people are really trying to say he doesn't
(24:32):
do is either the fourth quarter, when the game's on
the line, where is he This past year, I felt
like he was at the top of his game the
entire season, even even through the five losses, I felt
like he was still playing very good. We just had
the other a lot of things going around. And this
is why it's a team game. Eleven guys are out
there trying to make one goal happen. You can't just
always throw it on the quarterback. You guys are the
(24:53):
best team in football. And then I'll send he had
injuries getting to the worst team, I mean, and then
all of a sudden they you were good. And then
like I was about to turn the game off at halftime,
you have twenty one three, Like that's a rap. And
then I was like, wait a second, it's the Chiefs.
I gotta keep an eye on this thing. But Tennessee,
they're gonna fire malarkey anyway, is things over? What they'll happened?
I um, I was getting X rays and m R
(25:15):
I s, I have no idea. What have I still
haven't even watched the second half of that game. I uh,
And all I can hear is here about is guys
were dropping the football, um, and they weren't there for Alex.
And that's what really pisses me off about the entire
him him going somewhere else. Is the fact that you know,
I don't. I don't think it ended here the way
it was supposed to. But at the same time, you
(25:36):
know it's, um, you have no choice but to move on.
You You mentioned getting m R ees and and getting
X rays. I mean, like, look this scary stuff, dude,
especially a guy who you still haven't gotten the huge payday, right,
you still haven't gotten to the to the point. I
mean like you're well compensated, but you like it's only
five years in. There's still ten more years to go. Really,
(25:56):
what's that like to go through? Uh? Considering how much
you have a future in the NFL, and I know
you're trying to build a future for yourself out of
the NFL. Yeah, I mean it's um, I don't. I
try to have to think of the after football math
in terms of like physically and how my body is
going to react to me playing as long as I
do in the NFL. I UM, I just try and
go out here, try and live my life the right
way while I while I'm in the NFL. UM, try
(26:18):
and do the do the small things, the little things
that make the body go, like your shoulders and your
and your and your joints and stuff like that, Just
so you know, when when I do get put in
those awkward situations where I take a huge hit or
I or I or I hit the ground awkward, it's
um my body and my body is a little bit
more ready for it than what it is. And it's
you can't avoid concussions. That's just the name of the game.
(26:39):
I think the whole head hunting rule is, uh is
a bit exaggerating, a bit over the top and more
of a guy where you know, I'd rather a guy
hit me up top and and lay me out, not
necessarily knocked me out of the game, but I laid
me out, and I feel that hit up top more
than I would want somebody coming after my knees and
blowing up my knee, you know. So it's um. You
just gotta kind of live in the moment and and
(27:00):
take the game for what it is. I will tell you,
like that sounds that sounds great on radio, but like
you've ever seen some dudes need like come dislocated like well,
you know, I don't like that either. That's why I'm
saying I'd much rather take a shot. You got to
take a shot. I'd rather take a shot, but then
you see, you know whether you get card off or
getting card off a week and a half ago. I've
been fortunate. I've never been carded off, so I'm keeping
(27:21):
my fingers crossed for that. I did get up looking
like I needed to get cards off, but I did
not get carded off. Okay, So you got to see
a sports party right, Yes, the the a Sports Bowl baby. Um.
Now do you play? Do I play? How do you
play as you? Or do you drive your own team?
I play as the Kansas City Chiefs, and I throw
the ball to one person on the field, so you
(27:42):
just like ridiculous catches, take number of catches. Either you
double me and then I start throwing at the tyreek
or if it's single coverage or zone, I'm gonna find
a way to throw myself the ball. Um. Okay, so
that's what's your beef with Alba Kamara? You guys, have
you guys have a real beef for a video game?
Be Um? No, definitely not real beef, but definitely beef
without a doubt. I take my video game very seriously
(28:05):
in the competitiveness. Now, it's definitely gonna are you Are
you the guy? Though? That you get the game. You
get on the game, like, hold on, I gotta set
my audibles or you go with you go with the
default audible. Now nowadays they just got it to where
you can just you you can. As soon as you
said it to your profile, your audible is already set.
So you know what I mean. You can, but definitely
need to change the audible. Ailes are. This is this
(28:25):
is the great thing. I have an eight year old son,
and right now he thinks I'm the greatest Madden player ever,
right because we play on the same team and he'll he'll,
I'll let him go. Who do you play with? Uh?
We play with the Giants lot because he's Beckham guy.
Beckham catches everything in the game everything. Or we play
with the Chargers because we live in Orange County and
and a bunch of the Chargers live around us. It's
(28:47):
a rough life. That's a rough life. Listen, you you
went on the reality show and dated thirty women, So
don't tell me about rough life. All right, you're right,
you're right, right, Like you gotta get pretty good. You
have diamond earrings as big as the hubcaps in my
car right now. Of course he is Travis Kelsey good
enough to join us for me A Sports. He's got
himself a new quarterback, and uh, life is generally generally good.
(29:08):
Although I'm sure you wish you were playing this weekend.
Having you here this weekend's great for uh, not just
for the Chiefs, but the folks of the A. You
know it came waite Man and everybody. Catch the the
A Sports Bowl February first out here will be I mean,
Alvin Camaro will be going head to head. Be sure
to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
(29:29):
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Some guys
just say the playmaker and they're like, okay, you got
my garbon. So cool enough. Hall of Famer joining us,
uh here on set and another super Bowl, another Patriots
super Bowl. But it really is, like it's remarkable. Obviously
we know what befell you and cause your career to
(29:49):
end too soon. Same thing happened with Troy Aikman. Um,
but like kind of marvel at the fact that Brady
four years old and still doing it, doing it and
doing it at a level that's just incredible and and
and back in this game again. I mean, it is
mind blowing when you remember, and I love now how
(30:09):
how we are at the network NFL network, because we're
showing all of Tom Brady's combine pictures and when he
ran a forty and you're looking at this man run
a forty yard dash and you say, no way is
he going to play in the NFL. Not only plays,
he's about to win if he wins his six rings.
(30:32):
It's just incredible. When you talk distance travel for what
you saw to what he's done, it's incredible. And he
still looks great. Can I talk a little Hall of
Fame with you? There's there's, there's t O but now
there's Randy Moss as well. And I know that a
lot of times the way wide receivers always seem to
have to wait longer than they should. Why do they
do that to us? I don't know. It's your sport,
your the health. You tell me, I don't. I don't know.
(30:54):
If a quarterback sneeze right, he can get in the
Hall of Fame. If he just sneeze correctly, he can
get in. But when it comes to a wide receiver,
and and and we we are the ones that has
that we have to snatch the ball from between heaven
and earth land on one foot while somebody's trying to
take your head off and still try to get to
a touchdown. And and they always do it. They did
(31:16):
it with our Monk, he was a leader and categories
with rings. They made him wait. And now they're doing
it to t O, which I think is in. They
did it to me Chris Carter as well Carter Michael
Irvin from the NFL Network of course Hall of Famer.
You can fall on Twitter at Michael Irvin. Okay, So
if you're choosing, forget about time weighted time waiting, Moss
(31:38):
or t O who should go in first? Because right
they're they're both going in. Now, I tell you what
I believe. I believe we're in Minnesota and that those
guys like to make a splash. So there's no way
Randy Moss is not getting in in Minnesota. You see
what I mean? That's the Super Bowls here to announce
Randy Moss in that will that will light up the
(31:59):
whole city knowing that he got the guy in. So
I believe Randy most is going in, but I believe
t O should be in also. T O should be
in and hope for me they'll get him both the
end this year, because I know that would be a
hard O t O. If random most goes in and
he's still is not easy. Okay, let's continue to the
wide receiver talk with one of the great great wide
(32:21):
receivers in modern football era would be hard. Not he
has not taking it well, it is it has been.
I mean he's still like you know, he just lashes
out here like, yo, look I'm not on the committee. Okay,
I'm not in. Really, don't lash out at me. I
saw him an event, that charity event this summer, and
like you, asked him about it and he goes, he goes.
It's like all of a sudden, he loses his mind
(32:42):
for a second and he realized he's not yet in
the Hall of Fame. To tell him, man, listen, I
had to tell him, man. We were doing this commercial
together and I was like, t O, listen, man, I promise, man,
you're going to be there. And I said, you just
gotta understand what you're fighting for now. It's not you
fighting against the get the voters. Is you fighting for
that bust in that name in the hall and your
(33:02):
kids your great great great great great grand will walk
that hall and said, that's my great great great granddad
and what's in him? He's in me? And it inspised him.
I said, you gotta think on that turn. Let me
ask you about Dez Bryant. Um. Look, you're still synonymous
obviously with the Cowboys. How do you what do you
do if you're gonna advise Jerry, if you're gonna you
gonna sit down and you're gonna get in a restaurant
(33:24):
in the Jerry on one side, Dez and the other
and des probably pay a little bit too much money,
and Jerry like to pay him less. But your cowboy,
on the other hand, Dez doesn't appear to be the guy,
or at least this year, he didn't appear to be
the guy that he had been in the past. How
do you hand how do you mediate that conversation? Well,
I I think this year what the Cowboys should do
and and I tell you, and I talked to Jerry
(33:44):
about it. I I would tell him that was a
tough year all around last year, you know. And it's
one thing that people always talk about. We need to
make a decision on da is we need to do
this we you're talking about getting rid of one person it,
but who are you bringing in? Number one receivers are
(34:06):
uneasily found. Our teams will have two or three on
each team. Is he still a number one wide series?
Oh my god, Mands Briant still has the physical skill
seat and still is a number one wide receiver. Now,
this year was a different year. I just thought it
was a different year and a tough year for him,
But there's no doubt in my mind he still has
number one wide receiver capabilities and ability. When Romo called
(34:29):
some cowboy games, he continued to kind of reiterate like, hey,
you gotta throw it up to him, you gotta go
let him make a play. And it seemed like Doc
wasn't necessarily comfortable with the way in which Romo tried
to get DEVI going, how much how much of the
blame falls on the hands of the second year quarterback?
And Doc, Well, there there's some I don't want to
call it blame, but there's certainly some growth there, you know.
(34:51):
And when Tony and I would talk about that, you
know Tony would know, Okay, you you learned x is
and ohs of a game. You learn how to read defenses, okay,
but out now. The next level of quarterback and in
which I'm sure Doc will get too soon, is you
start seeing things like like Canon Roger sees things where
he's not even letting you get on it off the field,
(35:12):
but he's getting you off sides. All you start seeing
things like what Tony Romo was talking about. I know
more than next is and ols. I know. I know
the emotions of this team. So sometimes I'm just going
off reading throwing the disk. So what right positive attitude
to go through my team? Here? Here's here's how I
liked it. The basketball analogy for me, I play with
the guy dosn't Mason played ten years in the NBA
(35:33):
when I was in college, And if you got him
a dunk early in the game, his defense is better. Okay,
So he'sn't that kind of the secret with Jall and something.
And then all of sudden, a block for you is
attitude is better. He's gonna keep asking for the ball
and that's okay, and that's okay, and and his great
(35:54):
attitude becomes very effects on on the whole football team
because now he's lifting everybody up. No turner. I I
went in North Turner. One time, I say, North were
you know, we were getting ready for a game, and
I was about to tell him I want to get
involved early. And I said, you know, if he said,
don't even try it, Michael, he said, already know, don't
even say it. Don't even say I'm gonna get involved.
Or I said, okay, Loans, it's on your mind, and
(36:16):
I walked off. You know. But but almost a lot
of receivers are like that, and and they and they
definitely have to get him involved earlier. Now, let me
tell you something too. He knows that cameras on him
and and they know it. And every time he's not
getting an opportunity to make up play, everybody's talking about
the same things you're talking about, and obviously it gets
to him, and you see some of it may explode
(36:39):
on the sideline because he wants to prove that he's
still gonna play. But he needs those he needs those
opportunities there, and I think he should get him this.
Let me ask you about the story of the day.
The Washington Redskins are gonna puss and they and they
go and they get Alex Smith. Yeah, kind of feels
sort of like the same guy right, like safe quarterback
who you know, the middle of the pack. But they
(36:59):
like something happened there with them and Cousins. They could
never figure out the long term solution. Are the Redskins
better today and they were yesterday? Are they worse than
the same? I would say they're better. I thought Redskins.
First of all, we keep talking, you wouldn't have to
pay Kirk Cousin. He wanted to be the highest paid
quarterback in the National Football League. That that's kind of
(37:21):
money he's looking for. Right there, we can all agree.
So you got you got Alex Smith for a better
deal from that perspective, you know, and and and and
Kirk Cousins. I'll let Aaron Rodgers. I'll pay him the
highest peak. You know why, because even if I gotta
sell parts stuff around him, Aaron Rodgers going to raise
that up anyway. Russell Russell Wilson, he raised his stuff up.
(37:43):
I can't give it the Kurt. I can't give it
the Curt. I need players to raise Kurt up because
he's not going to be raising those players up. So
I understand that. So you spend a little less money
on Alex Smith, and then you go and get some
players that can help raise alex U. Yeah. Danna Jeremiah,
who works for you guys in the NFL network, he
says that you're either truck or trailer right there. The
truck you pull, let you pull everything along. You're the trailer.
(38:04):
You just kind of along for the ride. And you're
describing Kirk Cousins as more of a trailer, right, Like,
maybe a little bit more than a trailer, you know
what I mean, he's getting some things to do. Maybe
he's the thing that connect the truck in the tree.
What is it? What is that called the little ball
(38:26):
on the back of the trailer hits the trailer. But
but I think that, yeah, that's a hard thing to
turn around. And I have to get Kirk Cousins all
that money and think about this. Every year he's never
had more than ten wins in a season. So they're saying,
you're a middlewora pack quarterback. You bring us in the
middle of the pack records, take some middle of the money,
(38:46):
take the middle of pack winning. It's just business, yes,
and it is. By the way, you can check out
Michael NFL Networks doing a great thing. It's called NFL
Players Only. That's tomorrow Thursday and Friday eight o'clock Eastern
time for Minneapolis. So only former players, none of the
none of the talking, and none of the host the
traffic copping, just players on the podcast, right. Yeah. And
it's fun like that too, because you get guys more loose,
(39:08):
you know what I mean. More They feel like they
can share more stories, to tell more and everything. So
it's real fun when we can do that. Not that
we don't enjoy having my guy retirees and all of
those guys around too. They're good guys. But but it's
something else when this players, only the great Michael Irvin,
the playmaker, the Hall of Famer. Check them out in
the NFL Network all weekend long. Of course, their pregame
coverage starts at nine am Super Bowl Sunday. You're not
(39:32):
a yeah, yeah, we'll be on nine, you know, do
whatever you gotta do. Wake up and watch us, go
to sleep, come back up, wake back up. Still we'll
be on. Go run your errands, take away, go go
get two kids, pick them up, take him to the park,
come back home. We'll still turn your TV back on us.
Thanks so much having me appreciate al right, be sure
(39:54):
to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. If you
want to say running back, if you want to say
kind of slash position, joker position, he's wide receiver, he's
a little bit everything. He's a pro bowler. Is one
of the top running backs in the NFL, and he's
only a rookie. It's Alvin Kamara of the New Orleans
(40:14):
Saints joining us in the Dugout Lip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, look, I'm I'm watching you walk
around Radio row and considering your journey two different SEC schools,
junior college in the middle, drafted in the third round,
and now you're getting all this respect, all this love
for your performance all season on the football field. What
what's it been like for you? I mean, just it's
(40:34):
it's amazing, you know, just being able to have that
success and and getting the respect. You know, I mean
a lot of a lot of people tell me, like,
you know you've been this is what you deserve, but
this is you know, you gotta keep a humble, humblehead.
How do you do that? I mean, I'll just remember
everything I've been through, you know, everything that I went
through to get here, and it's like without without those things,
you know, I wouldn't be where I'm at without my
(40:55):
my mom staying in my ear. I wouldn't be where
I'm at without my uncle, you know. So like like
your mom, Okay, so, um, like Alabama, there's just too
many dudes there. Um, obviously we know you were you
know you like when you were you got you got
butch Jones at not getting the opportunity. What was your
mom telling you the whole time? Yeah, so Bama. At first,
(41:15):
she didn't want me to leave Bama, but you know,
I'm hard hitted left. I mean it works like like
like what like you're on the phone with her and
she come up and see you on the phone and
she's like, you know you just stay, you know you
need to stay like it's h a right, yeah, just
be patient. And it wasn't really that much of a
thing where you know, it was too many guys, of course,
I mean it's not that it's not a lot of
footballs to go around that many guys, especially at the
(41:36):
same position, but it was like, you know, got her
early and and it was just like one of those
things where I just didn't feel good there anymore. Like
I didn't feel comfortable. And you know, I mean, plus,
you're not really I don't want to speak out of turn,
but you're not really their style of back, right, Like,
Like what what Sean Payton is able to do with
you is he can use you anywhere, right, your your
Swiss army knife, right, and so you can line you
(41:57):
up as a running back or you can split you
out wide. Now you got got a linebacker on you. Okay,
we know where we're going, right, But that's not how
they that's not how they roll at Bama. Um, even
when you were there, when you guys start running some
spread stuff, you still kind of have traditional running backs?
Was that part of what didn't work there? I mean
I wasn't really worried about that. I mean, I feel
like I can I can do as as long as
I get to touches, I can do you know, whatever
(42:18):
any other running back can do. But you know, it
just didn't. I just felt like, you know, it was
my time was up there. So I made the transition,
all right. So so you go to the Saints and
when you were drafted, would they tell you be ready? Period?
You know, be ready. You know, I kind of knew
what my role was coming in, kind of playing that
joker position like Reggie and yeah, so you know I
(42:39):
didn't I didn't know it was gonna take off like that,
but you know, I was just I came in and
I was like, all right, let me just keep an
open mind and attack everything that that's put on my plate.
That's really amazing that you mentioned Darren, Darren Sprowls, Reggie
being Reggie Bush and they found a way to isolate
you and find mismatches for you. So it's and look,
is it your talent, yeah, is it your drive? Yeah,
but it's also John Payton and Drew Brees understanding how
(43:02):
to find mismatches for sir. It's definitely that fit, you know.
And I give a lot of credit to to Drew
and Coach Payton, uh for just you know, putting me
in position to be able to be successful. You know,
those guys are like they're so cerebral, like you know,
it raises the the like your your mental just being
around them, like just being able to get in those
(43:22):
mismatches and understand the game more like, I mean, you
got to be in tune, does it. It's still hurt.
I mean, we're only a couple of weeks from it.
Everyone felt like it was over. You and I talked,
you thought it was over. Still hurt? Yeah, I mean
it does, you know, because I feel like we could
still be playing. I feel like we should be playing
in this game. But you know, it just creates more
more drawing for next year. People have have asked about
your relationship with Mark Ingram, and they, I think a
(43:45):
lot of us are like, hey, you guys talking about touches.
You guys are fighting over the same touches. How could
you possibly be boys? But everywhere I've read everything I've heard,
you guys are super tight. Is that is that accurate? Yeah,
it's it's accurate. We're not fighting over too if if Mark,
if I if, we're honest with each other. So you know,
I know Mark, Mark's play might be that inside his
own play. So I'm like, shoot, that's what you do.
(44:07):
You do it better than me. So I want to
get like we we we want to be in the
best position to win, in the best position to be
productive and efficient in that play. He knows, like, all right, bro,
you you run the slant good, like you do that,
like you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's
one of those things where we understand each other, we
want each other to do well. So it's one of
those things where I don't want to put him in
this position to where he won't be able to be
(44:28):
underpercent effective, and it's vice versa. There's this there's this
uh perfect number for Drew Brees right. So Drew has
been uh handsomely compensated the past couple of years. Now
he's a free agent. He's like, look, I want to
stay in Nola, but he ain't gonna play for free.
On the other hand, you can't all the money, even
the money he right rightfully deserved, because everybody you gotta
(44:48):
you gotta put a whole team around you. Guys, how
how much how engaged are you and Withdrew as far
as where he is with coming back inside of don
we don't even we don't even talk about that. You know,
we're together the whole probo week, and it's like we're
just having fun and enjoying like being with the fam.
You know, his kids running around playing like Drew. Drew
is not you know, he's not worried about that, Like
he said, he wants to be a NOLA. Um. You know,
(45:10):
I think without front office, they'll figure it out. Um.
And I feel like I feel like Dre gonna be
our quarterback next year. I don't really think, you know,
I don't really deal with that. You you've been through
one full season. Everybody likes to add something to their game.
But the beauty to you is you do you seemingly
do almost everything? Well, what is there something you want
to add? Is there a next step that you want
(45:31):
to take? I think I just I want to. I
want to I want to shopping up my footwork, you know,
I mean, you know, you see all those footwork drills
on like Twitter and Instagram, Like I want to shop
in my footwork up in my hands, you know, just
those awkward, awkward positions catches and you know, just locating
the ball. You're gonna be O, G, O, B J
in it. You're gonna be doing all that one hand
that I'm I'm gonna probably go get with him and
(45:52):
you know, get with Antonio and get with some of
those guys and just you know, find out just a
little tricks. You know, it's year two now, so you
gotta you gotta add something every year. Yeah, I know, Like,
but I'm sure people probably tried Tapeman. The speed of league.
It's gonna wear you down's gonna beat you up. You're
through one year, You're like, this is kind of I'm
kind of good. Yeah, I'm feeling good. You know. It's
it's just it's all about how you take care of
your body. And you know, a lot of guys they're
telling me that, from Mark to Antonio to you know
(46:13):
all those guys. Man, they're like, man, take care of
your buddy, because that's what's gonna pay you. And it
is so Alvin Kamara joining US Pro Bowl running back
I had an incredible year with New Orleans Saints. Joining US.
He's part of the Visio Top Value Performer Award. But
the t v P Award also means dude, underpaid. That
means you're underpaid, right you. Alex Collins, Jordan Howard uh
and uh and Jered McKinnon, Um, make all right, make
(46:37):
the pitch why you should be the t v P
Award winner. Man, look I won that, but you know
what I mean, I'll make Let me make the sale
for you. Yeah, you do it, Like how many of
your fantasy football leagues did I win for you. Right.
Think about that because you you're speaking to the fan now,
right saying like like, uh, think think about where I
was drafted, how you thought of me, and think about
(46:59):
how how how much you cheered for me, regardless of
who your team was. On Sunday you look what Alvin
Kamara was doing. Like all right, as a payback all
I'm asking. I'm not asking a lot. I'm asking to
vote for me on the TV P boy, look you
said it. All right, there we go. I can be
I can be spoke. I can be your hyping. Then
when you win it and next year you have the belt,
I'll be your hype man. I'll come in with the belt.
I'm Alvin kamars Man. Hey, congrats in the first year.
(47:22):
Enjoy the fruits of your labor, all the success and
continue health. We appreciate joining. Fox Sports Radio has the
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