Hating The NCAA Is The “Cool Thing” To Do

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really sunny, delightful city of Omaha, Nebraska's like like sixty
degrees outside. Maybe it's because Scott leaves in town. We'll
talk to some Anthony Davis upcoming interesting times with the
Minnesota Vikings and with the Dallas Cowboys. Will get to both.
What's gonna happen with Dez Bryant, what's gonna happen with
the Vikings quarterback situation? Where will Kirk Cousins end up?

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And do we agree with Sam Donald not throwing at
the combine? Plus Roger Dale versus Adam Silver if it
was Thunderdome, which which one would leave but let's start
with Lebron James, who has a comment for everything, um

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and now he's taking to commenting on the n c A.
I understand that things become really kind of cool to
do somebody influential. This is the the idea of influencers.
Somebody influential, somebody important, somebody interesting says something to which
other influential and interesting people tend to kind of fall

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in line decide they want to do that, and it
becomes really really cool. Regardless of your level of expertise
with it, your understanding of of the discussion or of
the topics, you want to just kind of volley your
support behind what's popular. I've told people all the time

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like this is this is people calling out men in
charge for me too. Don't get me wrong. Everyone's disgusted
by men who have used their positions of power to
get sexual favors or simply sexually harassment at the workplace.
Everybody does. Of all guys think it's gross. It's gross,

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but I don't take to tweeting about it, even though
it's the popular thing to do. This happened at the
Academy Awards last year, not this year. The previous year.
Remember when there was a post of UH of black
actors or movies starring black stars, to which suddenly Hollywood
became racist. How is the hell is that possible? Hollywood,

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one of the most diverse UH places in the country,
let alone the world, ideas and actors and actresses from
all walks of life, suddenly now has gone from liberal
elitists to racists. Right from that, I mean so much
so that like Black Panther, which I haven't seen and

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I've only heard good things about, I got people tell
me I have, I've read things, But this is the
greatest movie ever made, greatest superhero movie ever made. Like
whoa WHOA? Deadpool is the greatest superhero movie ever made.

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Anything else fails to match up in comparison. But things
become popular, and so people say things. Well, there's not
no different than the President United States. For the record,
in case you to know, I didn't vote for him.
I wouldn't vote for him. I think many of the
things he says are foolish. I think many of the

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things he wants to do are foolish, and I greatly
disagree with But I do know that sixty million people
voted for him, Over sixty million people voted for him.
I do. I'm aware, and I'm aware of that. Just
because he couldn't say some things and do some things
that are foolish. I gotta be honest. I don't just
I can't sit there and just disagree with everything he's done,

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because there are some things that have been done which
I'm interested to see how they play out. But it's
so cool to say president's an idiot. Everything he says
is dumb, right, so I look the same side that

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what is guilty of that now was defensive when the
other side was going after Obama. Everything he says is dumb.
Everything he says is you know, he's he's this, He's like,
that's what we've done. It becomes popular to either like
or dislike somebody. It becomes popular to dislike Congress. Not

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everything Congress does is bad, man. Just if you don't
agree with the general, you think the one side of
the aisle is too powerful, and you don't like where
they're going with it, that doesn't mean that every move
they make is makes our country the worse off. It doesn't,
and and many issues are far too complex to simply

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make an easy statement. It's become really cool to say
that football won't be around for a long time, for
much longer. It's become really cool to be very critical
of the president and say he's going to be impeached.
By the way, you can be impeached and still be
in office. Case in point, that's what happened to Bill Clinton.

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It's really cool to say the n c A is corrupt,
and what is it? A cartel? And is to use
words to which you don't You might know what you
think they mean, but you're using it in the type
of negative context and in a meeting to which it
doesn't actually mean. Case in point, Lebron James, arguably the

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greatest basketball player currently playing in the NBA, so greatest
basketball player on earth, had this to say in regards
to what's going on in the in college basketball. It's correct.
I'm sorry, it's gonna make headlies, but it's correct. I
don't know if there's any fixing. I don't think it is.
I think it's what's been going on for you for many, many,

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many many years. Um, I don't know how you can
fix it. I don't see how you can fix it. Right. Well,
first of all, the n c A is corrupt. When
you say n c A. And by the way, at
some point a reporter might want to double back and
ask him, what do you mean n c A. Do
you mean the organization, the National Collegian Athletic Association? Are

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they corrupt? If so, how do you know this? Do
you know what the word corrupt means or corruption means,
like in in in what context? Are they corrupt? Is
their corruption in recruiting in college athletics? Okay? How do

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you clean up corruption? Well, first you have to find
the people that are violating the rules and punish them. Second,
you have to set into rules rules in place which
are fair and governable. But corruption is dishonest or fraudulent
contact conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery. So

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in this case, he is correct that there is corruption
or the assumption of corruption with college basketball coaches. But
is that who's in power? And if so, why is
he saying the n c A. I like Lebron and
it's very similar to what Gregg Popovit said to where

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I have no problem with him sharing his thoughts on politics,
sharing his thoughts on a race, sharing, but I want
you to know I don't agree with everything he says,
and many things that he's talking about he doesn't actually
know that much about. That's not me. That's not me,
And don't misconstrue this. This is not me calling Lebron dumb.

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This is me saying he doesn't know because he never
actually played college basketball. I'll give you an example. People
are criticizing the n c A today because Miles Bridges
got some forty dollar meal picked up and he got
to pay it back over the weekend, so he got
to pay it in time. Now you can sit here

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and tell me you don't agree with the rule where
somebody can't pick up an a can't pick up the
tab for Miles Bridges, or somebody doesn't know can't pick
up the tab for Miles Bridges, and all he had
to do was write a check or get forty dollars
to a charity of his choice. You can disagree with
the rule, but we know the rules. Everybody knows the rules,
and when you violate the rule, this is a very

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reasonable way. He wasn't suspended for a minute for a game. Nothing.
They just said, hey, look, pay it back, forget it
ever happened, and that's it. That's that's literally it. I
actually think that's super reasonable. Right, that's that's you can

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if your dad tells you I come home. I can
remember I came home from college and my dad was like,
you have a midnight curfew. I was like, what are
you talking about? I'm a college student. Now I don't
have a curfew. It's like, if you're living under my roof,
you do. The question is when you're nineteen or twenty
years old and you violate curfew, what's the punishment. You
can take my car away for a month. Now you

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do that in high school, but in college, you know,
you might not give me twenty bucks to go out
and have a beer with. Like, if anything, the n
c A has gotten more reasonable, has gotten less corruptible,
but instead because it's cool to hop on the this
has been happening for years. Or the Alonzo ball, everybody

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gets paid. I didn't get paid, but everybody gets paid.
No one on my team got paid, but everybody else did. Like,
what are you even talking about? Lebron? You didn't play
in college. You were getting money from Adidas, then you
signed with Nike. You were driving a hummer when you're
in high school. You would have been an eligible to
play in college if you wanted to do so, and

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he he believes that the G League expansion is possible. No,
it's not. They've tried to expand the G League. The
problem is it doesn't make any money their money losers
or money breaked eveners. There's no value to the franchise.
You can't flip a franchise and make money on it
and where you lose money in the day to day
like you can an NBA franchise. And if all these

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players were so valuable, they could go there and command
huge TV deals and huge shoe contracts. But they can't
because they don't have the brand of college colleges that
are the brand of NBA teams period. But Lebron talking
about playing in college basketball when he playing or the
n c A, in a very broad brush there's confirmation

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bias because you all are sitting there and not in
your head going yeah, he must know, but he doesn't
know because he didn't actually play, and it goes contradicting.
One of the great things that Lebron James does that
cannot go understated is what his foundation is doing and
putting kids through college, paying for them to go to college.
How can a guy who who is his life's work,

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we're told, is to make through sure the kids go
to college. And he understands how hard it is for
those kids to get in, how expensive it is to
pay for them to get through. How can he not
value what he and his foundation are doing. That's what
he's saying. But instead he's doing what we all have
attendens to do. We say what's popular, what everybody's saying.

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We're trying to be cool by fitting in, and in
doing so, we're speaking out of turn things that we
don't know anything about. I have an eight year old son.
I'm an eight year old son, and he is the
love of my life. And he's not just to love
my life because he looks like my wife and he's

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adorable and really cute. How or that he loves sports
like I do, whether we play video games together or
we do everything. Yesterday I pitched like I pitched batting
practice to his baseball team. Arm is about to fall off, man.
I was throwing strikes. I was humming it in there
and they were raking it. But that has nothing to
do with it. We had basketball practice last night. We're

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driving to school and he said, Dad, remember the kid
I was playing one on one with before school. Yet
he he always tries to be cool. He tries to
be cool, and I said, what do you think about that?
He's like, I don't try to be cool. I think
if you're nice to people and you're happy, I think

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that is cool. And first, that's why I love my kid.
He just gets it without trying to get it. But too,
that's kind of the secret to life. Here's Lebron, a
guy who is an American success story. He's an incredible
basketball player. He seems to be a pretty damn good guy,

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a dad, a husband, a leader, talking about something he
knows nothing or very little about on a day to day.
I'm not saying that he was recruited. I'm not saying
that he doesn't know about grassroots basketball. He does, but
he didn't actually function within the confines of the n
c A and considering it's his life's work to put

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other kids through college. Hey, Lebron, for one, for on
just one topic, why don't you just not talk about
it or don't say something negative about it just because
it's the cool thing to do. You're Lebron, You're already
cool and feeding into this narrative that you didn't ever
deal with is embarrassing. It would be embarrassing to me

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for you to assume corruption when you have absolutely no
proof zero. That's embarrassing, all right. Uh. The head coach
of Loyal is Chicago's gut importer Moserie. He took over
a once proud program and in short order restored it

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to a league championship status. The Missouri Valley Conference champion
is Loyal to Chicago. He'll join us upcoming next. I
want to talk about that journey, what he's learned, his
thoughts on college athletics from a guy who actually coaches
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show Fox Sports Radio. Patience is a virtue, right you
heard that heard that's saying it's kind of cliche, but

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it's actually true, well paying off for loyal University in Chicago,
which was a long time ago. Like historically in college basketball,
great program Um and the Ramblers are back. They're actually
champions of the Missouri Valley Conference. Now look the conference
re alignment has made things really screwy. I'm calling a
Craton game tonight. They're in the Big East. Yukon has

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fallen apart since leaving the old Big East and joining
the American Athletic Conference. UH. And of course the American
Athletic Conference was joined this year by Wichita State formerly
the Missouri Valley, and so the remaining teams in the
Missouri Valley, still a pride fielled conference, have have kind
of gone continue to go under the radar. But what's
what's not lost in the Midwest is what our next

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guests has been able to do. Porter mosiers their head coach.
He was the head coach at Arkansas Little Rock at
Illinois State before taking over at Loyola of Chicago going
back to Man two thousand eleven and in seven years
went from seven wins to twenty five wins and conference
champions one, winning conference play in the first year in

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fifteen wins. UH this year joins us now on the
Doug Gotlip Show. Porter, how are you. I'm great, Doug,
Thanks for having me on. UH. This has been an
interesting journey for you. A couple head coaching jobs really
really young. UH lost your job in Illinois State went
back to being assistant. What was the Illinois What was
loyal Chicago like when you when you took over. Man,

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I'm just sitting here listening to you talk about patience
as a virtue, and uh, it was it was really down.
I mean it was. It was down in terms of, um,
just the infrastructure of a program to be a championship program. Um,
we were at the bottom in the in the Horizon League,
and um, you know, just the mentality when you have
three we had three winning seasons in about the previous

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thirty years, and it was the culture was something we
had to just in still and um, so it's it's
been a it's been you know, after our first second year,
we doubled our wins and all of a sudden we
got the NOD to move to the Missouri Valley when
Creighton left, and that was another huge jump. And the
one that you had mentioned some of the conference relignment.

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If you look back then five years ago when they
did the conference realignments of teams that moved up, not
laterally like a Syracuse, but like the ones that moved
up you had Creighton moved up many many n s
A tournaments Butler moved up. Final four's VCU moved up.
Final Four's Xavier moved up. The lead eights, Utah moved up.
They've been in the Final four. George Mason moved up. Um,

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and there you just have a ton of schools like
and then you had Loyola who had three winning seasons.
And so I think it was the infrastructures of of
just the things on how they went day to day
of getting it going to a to a level where
they could say, hey, we're gonna operate like a championship team.
Well and then look, you're in the city of Chicago,
which does have not just with the Bulls, but high

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school basketball. College basketball has a proud tradition. Of course
for people who know anything about loyal Chicago won a
national championship kind of back in the day. Um, and
you know, de Paul, I'm getting a chance to cover
tonight against Create in a place on you began your
college coaching career. I mean, look, DePaul had say a
great history, but and you guys got that cool little
on campus, Jim. But look, you could you could go

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walk up to anybody on the street in Chicago five
years ago and and say name the Division one college
BASKETB programs, and they might say they'd say Northwestern although
they had never been to the tournament since until last year.
They'd say, de Paul, they don't even know you existed.
How have you been able to succeed in spite of
the fact that you're under the radar, even in a
proud basketball city like Chicago. Well, when I got here,

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it's loyal Chicago. This was crazy. We had zero We
had one Illinois kid on the whole roster, and we
started by trying to recruit kids from the city. So
we signed Milton Doyle who's now with the Brooklyn Nets.
He was freshman of the year in the valley, so
people who knew Milton, and then we signed Donte Ingram
from Simeon won the state championship, played with Japari Parker,
and now we have another one, and then we've signed

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then we then we're again Lucas Williamson for Whitney Young.
So we signed some local kids and then Milton sophomore year,
we we won twenty four games, we won the CB.
I turn him in so people's you know, it's obviously
not the n s A tournament. Believest it's a start
of some kind of postseason run. And we won the thing. Um,
so I think people started, you know, all right, you know,
now we're in the valley. The valley has just a

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little bit you know, it's got a you know, it
resonates a little bit more with Bradley's Southern Illinois, Illinois
State being in it state schools. So I think, you know,
with that that moved to the valley, helped. Getting some
local guys who had some success helped. And then it's
just kind of every year we've gotten better. We've won
eighty two games the last four years, and and uh
to get to this point and it's really fun dog

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right now. I mean the every one of the city
is excited. We sold out last game. I mean it's
it's a cool that's a cool it's a cool gym too.
You have anybody's ever and have been, I'm sure that
place was rocking. Okay, So then a couple other questions
I have. I mean, the first is Kenya sustain it? Right?
I Mean, I look at Ben Jacobson has done about
as good a job at Northern Iowa. Did you could

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possibly do? Right? Sweet sixteens and a tournaments but then
all of a sudden this year he's got a rough year.
He finished his second to last and you know, now
when all these head coaching jobs come open, Ben Jacobson,
who's never you know, he does things the right way,
Like we don't mention him. And look, and you've been
at this level and you've made the jump before from
when you built up Arkansas a little rock to Illinois State,

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Like how do you how do you balance the chance
to double or triple your paycheck? On the other hand, no,
knowing that it's hard to sustain what you've been able
to do. It is hard to sustain. I'm blessed. Um.
They just named our our junior point guard, Clayton Custer,
Player of the Year. They just announced about about twenty
minutes ago. So I got the player of the year
coming back. I got the freshman of the year they

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just announced. So I got some good young players. Um so,
but I will say this, I always I'm from Chicago.
I'm a Catholic kid from Chicago, and I played in
the Missouri Valley Conference and I played at Jesuit School,
and I feel like I got the trifecta. I just
I love this. I love what Ben said. Jacobson said
all those years, he said, why run from happiness? You know,

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he said that a lot um But I get it
nowadays it is hard to sustain. You get you have families,
you you have kids. I got four kids, and it
is hard to sustain. Um. But I love where I'm at,
I'm from here, and uh It's just it is a
hard balance. I'm right now, I'm not even thinking about
it because I'm just so in the moment with with
this team. I love my team and we're getting ready

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to go down to the Missouri Valley Tournament. So I've
just been kind of focusing on that. But it is something,
you know, I just know this. I I love the
where loyal is going, where we're at. I love my A. D.
Steve Watson. I mean that that is so important to me.
That You've got a great synergy with your athletic director
and I love him. And uh so I think things
are going well. Portomosier Loyalist Chicago's head coach. They won

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the Missouri Valley Conference getting ready for Arch Madness. That's
the the annual tournament for the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament champion. Um.
There there is discussion like, look at the Missouri Valley
Conference champion. If you don't and and oftentimes the number
one seed hasn't won the tournament, have you out of
the possibility that you could win, you could win the
league and not win the tournament and not get to

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the n c A tournament. Yeah, obviously that's it's that's
a disturbing thought. Um. You know, like take for instance,
Dan Mueller. Last year, the only Stay did a phenomenal job.
They went seventeen and one in the league. Um, then
they got to the championship. The only two losses they
had were at which dawn, then which dawn the finals
and didn't get in. So you know, I thought he
thought he should have got in last year. And so

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it's tough. And this year we we got a good
road win on our resume, winning at Florida. Um, and
it's tough, you know with our player of the year
he missed five games. We're twenty three and two with
him in the lineup and we're two and three with
him out. Um. You know, I know it's something where
at the time we're gonna talk about if we get
there and don't win, win it. But um, we we've

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just been kind of taking this mantra of just you know,
we got to control, we control, and it's just the
next game, the next game, and uh we that's kind
of where we're at. But it's it's tough because we've
we it's so hard we can get in this huge
debate about scheduling. You know, I had an a CEC
team buy out of you know, NC State bought out
of they were supposed to return a game here. It's

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so hard to get games at our level. And I
get it. I get it, um, but I don't like it. Okay, So, um,
there's all this discussion about corruption within college basketball. You've
been a part of it, not not part of the corruption.
Excuse me, but I have to make sure I don't
want to link What do you read that? Like? You've

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been You've been in this business for shoot now man
almost almost almost thirty years, yeah, almost thirty years. Um,
what's your sense of where we actually are? You're like
this has been your life. People like to make bold
statements about things they don't know anything about. You do.
Where are we actually you know, society and whatever facet

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they always kind of they associate they hear something in
this field they associate it with all of them in
that field. And I you know, obviously I feel horrible
that the profession I'm in and um, it's got a
black mark, a black stain on this. This is this
isn't right. And uh, I don't know you know this
the answers, UM, you know, you can read all the

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different things, but honestly, Doug, it's it's it's disappointing that
that this is the mark that's going on. Um, I
think it has to be cleaned up. I think there's
a ton of great coaches out there not involved. And uh,
I know I can feel really good going home to
my kids and look at them in the eye and
and and saying, you know, feel good. I can put

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my head on the pillow at night. Um, but we've
got to get through this. We've got to get through this. Obviously,
you know you've been involved with the sport so much
and and it's such an awesome college basketball so but
we've got to we've got to get past this and
clean this up. But you but do you do you
believe like at the Missouri Valley level? How? How? How

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what's what's the percentage of times in which you believe
somebody only has their hand out, they get something put
in that hand. I'll be honest with you, and I'd
love to get all the other coaches in our league.
We don't deal with it. I mean, it just isn't
at our level. I mean I'm not We're not dealing
with it. The kids were recruiting. Um, it just simply
hasn't been an issue. And uh that's super transparent and honest.

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I mean we just we recruit against each other a
ton in our in the valley, and I just just
isn't an issue. We're not dealing with that level of
of what you're hearing. Part part of this is widespread.
This is systemic. It's everywhere, everybody's doing it. That's that's
the assumption, like, how do we get to a place
to which there's there's wire tabs of of some coaches

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and there's a spreadsheet of some players too. We got
three and fifty one teams and it doesn't feel as
systemic as I think, um the common man would assume
that it is. How do we get there? Because I
think society throws the blanket off in it. You know,
they they something, someone does some thing, and their hope
it's everything. You know that everyone associates you with that,

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and I'm I'm telling you, I mean, it's it hasn't happened.
That are like, I shouldn't say it hasn't happened. Doesn't
happen with our level. I mean, I don't. I don't
deal with kids in the saying hey I need this
or I do that. It just isn't going on at
our level. And uh, you look at some of the things,
you know, you're talking about a hundred thousand dollars. I'm like,
holy crap. I'm like, I'm not giving my feet. That's
just unbelievable to think like that. That, um, but it's

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going on. It's going on. But I just all I
can say is I know we're not dealing with it. Um,
you know, and it's and I don't I believe our
league with no one in our league, we recruit against
each other a lot um, but it's it's it's got
to be cleaned up because obviously with the widespread you know, obviously,
when the FBI gets involved every I mean obviously there's

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there's there's a lot to be cleaned up. And there
I mean, hopefully they're moving in that direction, all right,
let's let's get back to the good stuff. Clayton Custer,
as you mentioned about twenty minutes ago, named the conference
player of the year. Here's the junior. Fourteen a game,
four assist a game. Uh maybe most impressively, I mean,
he's an incredible shooter in terms of his efficiency, fifty
four from the field, forty six from three. Tell me

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how you recruited him? You know, he was his teammate
Ben Richardson there from Blue Valley North High School. Great program. Uh,
they won, they won two state championships. And we've got
seven guys on our team that won state championship. So
we already had Ben and they were like childhood buddies.
And then so Ben was a freshman, we won the
c B. I all of a sudden, Clayton's that I

(29:30):
was State and I knew about Clayton watching him through recruiting.
Ben announced he was going to transfer from I was
State and immediately got the release um and literally drove
to Ames, then drove to Kansas City, met with it
him that day, drove all the way over to Kansas City,
met with his parents and uh and then we got

(29:50):
a visit and he signed and UH, it was just
a huge thing in our program because when he the
year he sat out, you could just see the competiti stiveness,
the i q um, the efficiency, and he's just an
unbelievable kid. I mean, he's he'll be up for Academic
All American. He's a scholar, athlete, the whole. He's the
whole package. And to have him and Ben together, who

(30:12):
won state championships, dont to Ingram, who finished second team
All League, won a state championship with simeon Um And
it's just that's how it went about of getting him.
We had his teammate and I'm telling you he's he's
a joint of coach and he's he makes a huge
difference for us. Well listen, safe travels to Arch Madness.
And obviously it's just been incredible what you've been able

(30:33):
to do this program in such a I'm sure it
feels like a long period, but to go from where
you worked where you are now, congrats man, great journey.
Thanks so much. I appreciate he Hey, hey give me
something tonight. I got I got Creton tonight. You're Creton,
a lum you played here. The best thing about Creton
is what is it the game at Creighton. Yeah, but
it's at the new it's at the place. Yeah, that places.

(30:54):
I mean the fan base, the following is awesome. I
just you know, Greg that they run just a high energy,
high efficient offense. You know, spacing laws. I mean, it's
but that fan base, that crowd, that facility one of
the best of the country year and a year out,
no doubt. Great stuff. Thanks so much for joining us.
All right, dog take care alright. That's Porter Moser, head
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talk there, Doug, So I'm gonna talk a little football.

(31:36):
Is the Lions have placed the franchise tag on defensive
end ziggy ansa that was expected. Now. Our report from
the NFL Network says the NFL's Competition Committee is considering
eliminating the going to the ground portion of how to
rule a catch. There are reports that the verbiage of
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(31:57):
speaking to reporters today saying they've got to figure out
the language or vocabulary of how they want to describe it,
but said that most everyone on that committee believe that
the Days Bryant play was a catching, that the Jesse
James was a catch was a catch as well. So
competition committee discussing the going to the ground portion. Also,
there's a report that the committee is discussing the possibility

(32:17):
of limiting defensive pass interference penalties to fifteen yards at
the most, so you wouldn't have a spot of you know,
spot of foul penalty for pass interference place doug in.
Former USC quarterback Sam Donald reportedly won't throw at the
NFL Combine this week. Instead, ESPN says he'll throw at
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(32:39):
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(33:00):
new oner to sign. I mean, we all you guys
seen Blue Chips. It's a real movie. It's a real movie, seriousness,
a real movie. So there's Lebron James talking earlier today,
Doug uh Buyer, can you explain to me that that
rule change you were talking about? So the there there
are two of them. The pass interference one is the

(33:22):
one that you're curious about. The instead of a you know,
forty eight yard penalty for a pass interference for a
spot of foul, that they would limit it at just
fifteen yards. So the college rule, Yeah, now has that
been approved? Was that proposed? It's being talked about, and
I'm for that. I think it should be about twenty

(33:42):
to twenty five yards. I never thought spot of foul
when there's just so much going on in a play,
unless unless it's totally egregious. I've always felt that that
that the like theft penalty, is just way too much
for a for a ball that a quarterback could get
bailed out by just chucking it downfield. There in lies
the problem right there. Okay, so the problem is when

(34:03):
these guys get beat and they're gonna get beat for
a touchdown that if you if you don't make it
a spot foul, then you just grab a guy, right
you just grab a guy. Do you think you can
make it like college hoops, you know, intentional foul? Do
you think you could do something like that? And you know,
you know what that you know what happens with that? Though?
Right now we go to the now, we go to

(34:23):
the replay, and we try and judge intent. Really hard
to do. I do think though, if a guy slips
and just grab someone that there's intent there. But I
do think like two guys battling for the ball are
just maybe not turning his head around in time on
a fift yard pass play when the ref may not
even be in position to see contact. I just think
it's it's not going to use the term it's so penal.

(34:45):
It's it's so severe on plays that I think are
more fifty fifty at times. That's just my issue with it.
M mhm um it's it's boy, it's really hard. But
but like, look, this is um over is it over
over penalizing? What's the there's a term for it, because

(35:06):
we talked about it with the ball over overly punitive, right,
because we've talked about it with the That's one of
the things I don't like about the rule with the
touchback rule where if you fumble the ball and it
goes out of the end zone, where out of the
sideline of the end zone it's the opposing team's ball
on the twenty yard line. That's overly punitive for a fumble,
whereas if that occurs anywhere else on a football field,

(35:28):
it goes back to the spot of the fumble. So
I think there's there's a bunch of issues with it.
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(35:50):
They actually lead college basketball in field goal percentage. And
Porter's did a really good job. And the point that
he he made out about Clayton cust you know, he
didn't play in three of their losses. And this is
where you know as you get down to selection Sunday,
which is you know in a week from this Sunday.
One the biggest flaw in all the statistical data is

(36:14):
it doesn't tell you how which games a team didn't play.
Now look, now only does sometimes the player didn't play
and it affects the team, But sometimes the opposing team
didn't have a player, didn't have two or three players.
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(36:35):
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time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. By the Game today,

(37:59):
Doug is rank all right, this is where we just
rank stuff. Doug, you were just in Mackie Arena over
the weekend of one of the great college basketball atmospheres.
There are one are the top three college basketball atmospheres
that you've been in either as a player, recruits analyst.
Top three college basketball atmospheres you've been in? All right, Well,

(38:22):
look I put GALLAGHERIBA. But the old Gallagher IB Arena
is number one. Um, but that place don't no longer exists, right,
So do you want existing just a hard one? Yeah?
Just the places that that. If that's what gives you
chills up and down your spine, I'll take Oklahoma State
off of it. Okay. Uh. The coolest place to watch

(38:43):
a game is is Butler hinklefield House side of Hoosier's.
Just feels like you're walking back in history. I would
put Kansas in faw Allen field House as probably the
best all around. Right, It's got the field house feel
if he's like back in history. Plus you're watching great basketball.
But the best atmosphere I've been to. When New Mexico
was really good at the pit, that Blazer was crazy loud.

(39:06):
There's altitude the regular fans as well as the students
for nuts, I would put the pit in albuquerqueise number one. Alright,
ran ahead of Macarena, which is great, great, great atmosphere,
great Jim and a nice redo. It was not what
the other three were. Hey, they made the Olympics, just
didn't make the metal stand. That's all that there is
for for racy arena. Doug, rank your top five quarterbacks

(39:28):
that will take part in the NFL combine coming up
this week. Who do you like? Who do you maybe
not like as much as I'll do. Uh, I'm a
big Sam Donald the guy. Um, I do think you
put Josh Rosen there, even though I know he's got
some personality quirks. Um I put Luke Falk from Wazoo.
Trent Dilfer recommended him. If you miss our train deal

(39:50):
for interview, put that up at Fox Sports Trade dot
com or iTunes and then yeah, I'd like to see
what Lamar Jackson has um on. Not as big on
Lamar Jackson as other people are, but I'd like to
see him next to others throwing and see his level
of accuracy because he can. He can make all the throws.

(40:10):
He just just misses guys for no reason. Sometimes. That
was the five rank the top three Winter Olympic sports
that you miss now that the Winter Olympics are over.
Anything you're you got a curling craving. Maybe you're you're
dying for some lose action action. Maybe nothing, nothing at all.

(40:32):
No Bob sled too man or four man Bob sled
just to see one time that go down the track. Nothing?
What about half pipe. Alright, what about this? What about
this final one rank your top McDonald's promotions because the
Shamrocks Shake is out, the Sessuan sauce has been released again,

(40:55):
which is a big deal. You know, they bring out
the mcribbed ug. There's monopoly time of the year. Loves
the mcribb. Right. You know that monopolies number one. Monopolies
everybody's number one. Yeah, mc ribb is number two and
Shamrocks Shake three. Can I say one quick thing about monopoly?
There is nothing more demoralizing when you go to McDonald's

(41:16):
just to get monopoly and you realize that they're only
on the large cups. So you just got like a
medium drink. You like, there's no monopoly ticket here. That's sorry, sir,
it's only for the large Sometimes this is game time
on the Duck Gottlieb show. Well the Yeah, it's funny

(41:37):
bring up monopoly and McDonald's monopoly byer. I think you'll
like this. If you look at the Minnesota Vikings. They
have three quarterbacks. But it's not like they own the
prime pieces of real estate, right they own um man,
I'm trying to think what streets that they own? What
what boxes they own. But but you know, like they've

(42:00):
basically on a block. What ultimately they do could shape
the entire offseason the NFL. We'll discuss it next the
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(42:25):
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twenty minutes and we'll discuss the current state of the
n B A um, oh, lack him forth? Sorry, lack

(42:47):
can four is gonna join us? Do we move brus
Haart back? Is that what we did to to to twenty?
All right? So Jason lacking four is gonna cho us
even better because that's that's actually the topic I wanted
to get to. So there's one team that's sending a
message to a player in the NFL. We want you, right,

(43:11):
we want you. Have you been paying attention to? The
Minnesota Vikings have three quarterbacks and there's an old expression
in football that if you have two quarterbacks, you don't
have one. Right, Well, the Minnesota Vikings don't have three
quarterbacks and don't have one. The story yesterday was Case
Keenum would not be franchised, and now it appears that

(43:33):
Teddy Bridgewater Sam Bradford also will be allowed to test
the free agent market. The Bradford market is really interesting,
The Bridgewater market is really interesting, and frankly, the case
Keenum market is really interesting. And they're really interesting for
different reasons. Case Keenom is interesting because I think we

(43:54):
all know what Case Keenum is like. He's a younger
Ryan Fitzpatrick. As a filling he's great as a star.
Yeah right, that's no different than a radio show. Lots
of guys can come in and be a guest or
so lots of guys can fill in for a day.

(44:15):
You do two d twenty days a year. There are
a lot of quarterbacks that are competent when they have
the type of defense that the Vikings have. And remember,
the Vikings got the benefit of playing the Aaron Rodgers
less Green Bay Packers. These Chicago Bears weren't rebuild mode.
Detroit Lions fired their coach like their division sucked and

(44:37):
their defense was stacked, their wide receivers were good, their
offensive line was rebuilt. Like he betted from a lot
of things, kind of breaking his way a lot of things.
So Case Keenum, do you overpay? Is anybody going to overpay?
Even though we all know he's more backup than he
is starter. But you have Sam Bradford, who I think

(45:02):
everybody believes is is the is the most talented of
the three, but he's always hurt. He's always hurt. And
as we've told you, with Major League Baseball in comparison
to other contracts, it's the same with the NFL. You know,

(45:23):
a lot of how much you get paid, how much
you're worth, is based upon and maybe even radio, how
much you're gonna show up right, Like, I don't get
paid because I do one good show a week. I
gotta do five good shows a week. You know, I
might not do one great show every week, but I
had better do five good ones. Sam Bradford, you can't

(45:45):
be a starting quarterback in the NFL if you can
only start one game before your body breaks down. You
just can't. So what is his value? How do you
evaluate Case Keenum in comparison, he is value based upon
how he played this year. But if you take him
out of the Vikings playing a dome, Adam Feln, Stefan Diggs, etcetera.

(46:11):
With that defense, how do you evaluate what's the value
of Sam Bradford when you can't have any faith that
you're gonna start him at quarterback? He had a clean pocket,
He had one of the best games of his career
in week one of the season, and yet he wasn't
healthy in week two. He was never He never got
back in after Week two, and then you have Teddy Bridgewater,

(46:32):
who are memories of Teddy Bridgewater are a lot better
than Teddy Bridgewater. Like uh ramos um, I want you
to take a guess on average, now, there are twelve
to fourteen quarterbacks that throw for four thousand yards in
a season. During Teddy Bridgewaters last year of starting in

(46:58):
the NFL, when he took the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs,
how many yards do you think he threw for? Okay,
a little bit more than that. Three yeah, um, what
about touchdowns? Two interceptions? What are you thinking? I would

(47:20):
say he threw fifteen touchdowns and seven interceptions. It's pretty good.
Fourteen and nine. Pretty good, pretty good at what you
do there, John Ramas. He's walking out the studio as
he dropped the mark right like in the playoffs, which
they should have won the second game in the playoffs,
to the first game of the playoffs to the Seattle

(47:42):
Seahawks in the playoffs. Remember they what's the kicker he
was with the Seattle Seahawks this year, Blair Walsh misterfield goal.
He threw for a hundred and forty six yards. Granted
this was when the Vikings played outside, it was in
the freezing cold, but he threw for a hundred forty six.
He actually only threw for over three yards two times

(48:05):
that entire season, one once against the and and of
those fourteen touchdown passes, he got four against the Chicago
Bears in like the third week of the season. The
point is that Teddy bridgeard is fine. It wasn't bad,
it wasn't great, He was fine. But how do we

(48:26):
evaluate three years later how he would be coming off
a catastrophic knee injury, Like we can't make Sam Bradford
the starter because his knee won't hold up. We can't
make Teddy Bridge want to started, not just his knee,
but we don't know if he's any good to begin with.
And then he got case Keenum, who you do know
who he is and what he's done this year seems
to be a fat up. But what the Vikings are

(48:47):
doing is telling you, hey, look, we're not saying we
won't resign one of these guys, two of these guys.
Pretty good chance Sam Bradford's on the market because he
can't be a starter. Pretty good chance of Teddy Bridgewater
on the market because he can't be a start of
most anywhere else. But if we can get Kirk Cousins,
we'll give ourselves a chance. And I kind of think

(49:10):
that's the message that they're putting out to to kirk
Cousins camp. You want to guarantee you'll start, here's your spot.
You need the money, We got it. You want to win.
Look at what we're able to do with case Keenum.
You're better, more expensive, more experienced, and you'll be even

(49:34):
the best version of yourself playing in the Dome if
you come play for the Minnesota Vikings. They are sending
a signal to the league and everybody can see it.
We're all in on Kirk Cousins We're not sixty grand
up sixty million up front in the first year. Like
there are reports that apparently have been shot down that
that's what the Jets were. But um, I think it's

(50:05):
pretty obvious, pretty obvious what the Vikings are doing. And frankly,
I mean, like, look, he's the we talked about this yesterday.
He's the best guy out there. He's the best author.
So um, I don't know. It's it's fascinating though that

(50:30):
we do live in a world in which can which
Kirk Cousins is the hottest of hot commodities. Where guys
are you know what this reminds me of. Here's a
here's a college basketball parallel to it, there's a there's
a guy named Jay Lucas. Do you guys know who
Jay Lucas is. John Lucas was the number one pick
in the NBA draft. John Lucas is was an NBA player,

(50:52):
an NBA coach. He had a drug problem or came
that drug problem, and now he has his own basketball
deal where he takes in he has kids stuff, but
he also for college players, for NBA players, guys that
need to get their life right, they go work with
John Lucas his son Jay is on staff at Texas
Jay Uh. Jay's older brother, John Lucas the third actually

(51:17):
has had a really good long career in the NBA.
I think he's out of the league this year. But
Jay wash, you know, he was not as good as
John was. On the other hand, he signed late in
college basketball, and because he signed late, everybody needed a
point guard. And instead of playing at a lower end

(51:41):
at the time Big twelve school or maybe in the
Missouri Valley is what you would call a mid major
or maybe mid major plus guard. He became the most
most sought after basketball recruit in the country because twofold
one or threefold good Jeanes in which he get better
is brother. John was at Baylor for two years, then

(52:02):
came to Oaklhoma State and blew up became Big twelve
Player of the year, an All American. And so the
thought as his brother was a late bloomer. So the
first thing is he he was thought to be gonna
be a late bloomer. Second thing, because he was small,
he was never going to be an NBA player. If
he was, he'd be a four year guy before he's
in the NBA. And that's more valuable than some superstar
who only stayed for one year and then you know, look,

(52:25):
he was valuable because he thought, if you get him
and he has a good time, his dad would help
send other players your way. He was super and he
went from being recruited at a mid major plus level
to everybody in the country offering him a scholarship. That's
what Kirk Cousins is. Kirk Cousins is the last guy

(52:45):
to remain unsigned. I know there are other quarterbacks that
are unsigned. I understand, but Aaron Rodgers isn't going anywhere.
Drew Brees isn't going anywhere. Tom Brady isn't going anywhere.
Jimmy Rappolo are he signed god his new deal. Jared
Goff isn't going anywhere. Cam Newton isn't going to Russell

(53:07):
Wilson isn't going like all these guys. So the best
guy available becomes even more sought after, not just because
of skill, but because of timing, and the Vikings are
telling him, Look, you might be able to make more
money elsewhere, you might be able to make anywhere elsewhere

(53:33):
money elsewhere, but um hi, this is the This is
the best place where you can get both. Where you win,
you win and you make money. And if we went
that far with case Keenum, how far can we go
with you? A couple of responses on Twitter here let's

(53:55):
see here, Mr asked ross Chalk said old Gallagher IVA
was a glorified high school gym fit the fan base
and still water to a t plenty of orange seats
down available the pit and Hinkle hashtag troll listen. Uh,
this guy's obviously a Kansas fan. He thinks he's great
because a team that he cheers for is won fourteen

(54:17):
consecutive Big twelve really seven consecutive out right Big twelve titles.
That's great for you. The question that I was asked
is one of the three best venues you've been to?
Right then, what Dan Buyer asked me. I've been a
part of GALLAGHERIBA where we beat Kansas by thirty three
points when they quit. It was the worst loss Roy

(54:39):
Williams had ever suffered at Kansas. Yeah, that was the
high school gym, right, whatever it was. Seas, that's too
small for you. I have listed fog Own field House,
and the list is of the pit um An Albuquerque.
There's some really good places. If that's not good enough
for you, go listen to another show. If you want
everybody to suck up to you, listen to another show anyway.

(55:02):
All right, Jason Lampour is gonna join us next, we'll
ask him, like everybody's moving mountains to get Kirk Cousins,
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(56:48):
And we're getting ready for the Combine and Indie. There's
some interesting stuff about that, but also getting ready for
the year end. UH. In the NFL, we have the
Peters Trade Marcus Peters Trade the end. Last week we
got the Minnesota Vike is looking like they're gonna allow
all three of their quarterbacks in the open market. Let's
start there, j LC, Let's start with the Vikings. Um,
look me the outsider, you the inside. The outsider says

(57:10):
they want nothing to hold them back from going after
Kirk Cousins. Is that an accurate portrayal of what I
think the Vikings are doing well. I'd say that they're
keeping close tabs on multiple situations, and there's a lot
of time between now in the middle of March, and
I think they're trying to send a signal that they're

(57:30):
not beholding to anybody. But at the end, they're not
dealing from a position of strength, um, because they allowed
themselves to get those situation where they've got no no
quarterback on the contractor sself for the practice quad kid.
So do I think at the end of the day
that they would, you know, could beat out the New
York Jets in an all out throw money at the
problem race for Kirk Cousins. I don't now how much

(57:55):
less would Cousins take to go to Minnesota, who certainly
seemed closer and all that know that remains to be seen.
I think they're playing hardball with a bunch of guys
to get somebody at their price. I don't know that
Mike Zimmer has built that team to now have a
thirty million dollar quarterback come in there and and a
thirty one thirty million dollar quarterback with no postseason pedigree

(58:16):
and think that that's the way that they're going to
sustain winning. They've got more people coming up, they need
to pay Fon Diggs trade waves. Uh, They've they've done
a good job at securing their core, but they're built
on defense and a run game. And and again, if
this was a Peyton Manning with that pedigree, if this
was a Tom Brady, Um, you know, if this was

(58:37):
a Ben Roethlisberger, if this was a Drew Brees, I
think it would be a little bit different. Um. I mean,
you've got John d Filippo there, who you know might
get to the draft and decide, hey, well let's trade
it too for Nick Foles, because I know Nick Foles,
and you know, I think they're gonna get Bridgewater back.
But in their heart, they know that that's not enough security.
So it's it's it's Bridgewater plus what you know, and

(59:01):
that that remains to be seen. And it looks case
Keenum he may have to be after that anomaly of
the season. Case Keenum may have to get out there
truly on the open market to figure out what he's
worth and if it's not what he thought it was
gonna be. I don't rule out a reunion there either. Um.
But right now they're trying to play the field, and
this is the time to do it at the combine,
when you take everybody's temperature and you start getting down

(59:24):
the brass tacks with in terms of who's got this market,
who's got that market, what's this guy's price point? Um? Again,
I with the with the cap and cash ammunition the
Jets have, with the ability to literally give this guy
fifty five million dollars next year if they wanted to.
I just don't know that that's the area, you know,

(59:44):
that's the part of town the Vikings ended up shopping in. Okay.
So what are the other options? Well, there are other
options are Sam Bradford case Keenum trade for Nick Foles.
I mean, if you do want to spend that kind
of money, why not spending on through breathe If everybody's
assuming Drew reason and going back there and and frankly,
other than Minnesota, I don't think it's a potential market

(01:00:05):
exists for Drew Brees anywhere else, given the price and
the age, and the teams that need quarterbacks aren't winning
the super Bowl in the next two years, and he's
probably not the same guy two years from now. But
Minnesota would be the one. I mean again, if I'm
spending that kind of money, if I'm spending twenty eight
million dollars a year, would I'd rather give Drew Brees
a three year deal that's really a two year deal

(01:00:25):
and roll my dice that way and try to lure
him out of New Orleans or in my you know,
getting Kirk Cousins at all costs and giving him a
hundred and fifty million legit for five years and keeping
my fingers crossed. Um. So, I mean, I think that
those are the guys that they have, you know, interest
in varying degrees of interest, and then it's gonna be

(01:00:46):
which guy at what price? And if somebody's market is
a lot stronger than they thought it would be, you know,
then it's probably on to the next guy. Jason I
cam Four from CBS Sports joining us the Marcus Peters trade,
UH is interesting because you know, look, here's a guy
who's a great, great at ball hawking, but I want
to know, nothing to do with tackling and apparently failed

(01:01:07):
to want to fit in or buy into staying in
Kansas City. Who got the better of that trade? I mean, look,
when you're in football operations of the Kansas City Chiefs
and your owners made it clear that he's not going
to pay that player, and he's not. They're never, you know,
they're never paying Marcus Peters fifteen million dollars a year
to be a through number one corner and pay him

(01:01:29):
as the best of breed guy and they're not even
positive they're picking up the fifth year option. Then, you know,
and the league gets winto that, and then you're not
dealing from a position of strength. And this was a
kid who was off you know, draft boards. I mean,
there's a reason he went late first round instead of
top ten. And some teams just weren't going to touch
him in any round just because they felt like it
wasn't going to be a fit for them. And there

(01:01:50):
were too many concerns and red flags, and even with
him creating more takeaways than anybody in the NFL came
to the league, there was only two to three teams
that really want to do business with the chiefs, and
we're truly negotiating with them. There was a lot who
just took a hard pass or said you know, we look,
we was off our board, so we can't bring him
in the building now, or hey, we're not sure we're
gonna pay. You know, we would be able to pay

(01:02:12):
him either. Saying all that, it could be a steel
for the RAMS. I mean, even if they pick up
the six year option and just rent them for two years,
if they think they're close, you get him for what
eleven twelve million for two years. That's an absolute steal.
And then if you decide, hey, he's not a part
of our long term deal, Um, he's not somebody who
we think would handle, you know, a sixty million a year,

(01:02:32):
Well then you take your compit for him and you
move on. Um. So I think it's a low risk
gamble for the RAMS, and it particularly makes sense to
them because they lost General's Jenkins a couple of years ago.
They're about to lose too Main Johnson and May another
corner and another safety on top of that, that secondary
all of a sudden starts to look like Swiss cheese.

(01:02:53):
And now you bring in a kid who you know
is a legitimate lockdown corner with incredible ball skills, and
you would think he'd be highly motive made it to
stay in line because one team has already you know,
brought him in Adam for a couple of years and
said no thanks. You know, he's definitely playing for a
paycheck down the line. So we'll see, Doug. I mean,
I think it could work out very well for the Rams,

(01:03:13):
especially if again they say they're going you know, they're
gonna be in the playoffs the next couple of years
with a chance to go deep. And this guy solidifies
what was becoming a huge position to need and he
does it at a modicum of what they were paying,
a fraction of it. I mean, think about what you
Norris Jenkin has gone on the open market thigu about
what they paid Trueman Johnson the last two years to
tag him twice, almost thirty million dollars for two years
of his services. And he's go out the door before

(01:03:35):
age thirty with no compensation other than the potential copic.
So I get it from their standpoint entirely. You'll listen
to the Doug out lip show here on Fox Sports Trader.
That's the voice of Jason Lochanphora from CBS Sports. I
think what we're hearing out of Dallas, you're hearing Dez Bryant.
You know, if you're not with me, blank you and

(01:03:57):
the Jones family is like, look, we loved as we
love him, but look we've loved other players that have
have left. It feels like they're going to take the
hard and fast dance. We want Dez Brian, but we
want him at a lesser price otherwise work, We're we're
gonna offer up the possibility of seeing him walk away.
Am I misreading that? Well? I think they're playing hardball

(01:04:20):
with him, but at the end of the day, they're
they're pretty soft. You know. That's another team that feels
like it's close. They probably feel like they're closer than
they really are. And they had the excuse with the
Elliott suspension last year. And they don't have enough difference
makers on offense as it is. Jason Witten is old.
Beasley is a nice little slot guy, but he's not

(01:04:42):
winning games for you. They don't have outside receivers as
it is, and and is Dez works what that contract
says that he should get no, but poor oh boy.
They then they've got to replace him, plus the upgrade.
I think at the end of the day, Jerry beats
him up and then loves him up and those his
arm around him and says, you you want to be
a cowboy. And he has a way of getting guys too.

(01:05:05):
At the end of the day, um do things that
maybe their agents wouldn't want them to do, or maybe
their mind would tell him not to do, but he
gets in their heart a little bit. So we'll see.
The guys I talked to around the league don't think
he's going to leave that building And think at the
end of the day, Jerry will suck it up and
and pay I mean dirty little secret about Dallas Cowboys.
It's about the least money in the NFL and payroll

(01:05:26):
last year probably a wide margin. So you know, yeah,
they get themselves in some cat bines. But when you're
talking about actual money being spent on players any given year, uh,
they're not up there and committed cash the way they
used to be. So to cut him and create another
hale when they're already struggling to keep the money, they're
gonna franchise to Marcus Lawrence and that's gonna be a struggle.

(01:05:46):
I don't know, Doug, I don't know. And and again,
this is not a deep wide receiver class in the draft.
It's not. It's not one that people are going god
over and um in the draft or the free agent Look,
I mean, Mike Wallace is probably the third best free
agent of all out there on the open market. So
where how are they replacing Dez? And they've got to
hope that DEAs stays healthy, and they've got to try
to get DEAs in the right mind frame. But des

(01:06:08):
has done some pretty good things with for Prescott. They're
not at the point now where they should be taking
weapons away from Prescott. What do you make of the
NFL making Jerry Jones pay the two million dollars in
legal fees. We'll see if they ultimately do, you know,
We'll we'll see how that comes to pass. Um a
lot of time between now and that owner's meeting at
the end of March and Roger Gooddell's you know, he's

(01:06:30):
got to straddle some lines here, and there's a lot
of owners who are apoplectic over what Jerry did, and rightfully, so,
I mean, you don't really really threaten to sue your
business partners for no real reason just because you didn't
get your way. Nobody violated the constitution, nobody violated the
by laws. Get Dell's contract was handled by the book.
He just didn't like it that he didn't get control
of the process, and he was lashing out because they

(01:06:51):
took away his star running back well he didn't think
should have been defended. So, yeah, you're you're going to
get You're going to get some penalty for that. Is
it ultimately to be two million dollars? I'm not sure.
I think there's some wiggle room there. And do you
really want to go Deacon five with Jerry after things
have just kind of died down a little bit and
with him hosting the draft in a couple of months,
and how how awkward do you want that to be?

(01:07:13):
So I think he will get hit with with the fine.
I'm not convinced two million, you know. And I know
they're not couching as a fine. They're saying it's um,
you know, penalties for what they you know, incurred preparing
for a lawsuit that he threatened to have. But it
basically is a fine, And we'll see. I mean in
the bottom line is whether it's five thousand or two
million dollars, it's chump change. I mean for this sport,

(01:07:38):
it's absolutely chump change. No. But but but they're making
a point right there. They're trying to make an f
you you lost? Are we one? Like? I know Goodell
can do it. I know the other owners can do it.
But should they do it? Is it? Is it worth
it too? Is it worth it decreate other enemy when
when you don't have to. Well, here's the thing, though,
there's a lot of other owners. There's you know, thirty

(01:07:59):
two of them, and Jerry maybe three in his corner
through that whole sorted ordeal where he's leaking false truth
than lies to ESPN and and fighting a proxy war
with the League office through the media and pretending he's
the shadow commissioner like that, Thedell has people to serve
other than Jerry Jones. So I mean that's what I
say when I say straddling the line. I mean again,

(01:08:19):
the guys who Jerry had in his corner weren't exactly
the murderers row of powerful you know NFL owners. It
wasn't exactly you know, the crafts and the Rooney, So
something's going to give. I'm just not sure it ends
up being two million dollars. But even if it was
two million dollars, when you when you look at the
line items of these teams, I mean, it's just, you know,

(01:08:42):
a pimple on the baby's But Jason lockhamp for read
his work on Twitter. We just work at CBS Sports
dot com. And of course you can hear Hi when
he appears. You're on the Doug Gotlip Show JLC. Great stuff. Man,
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What's going on in sports? Well, Lebron James speaking out
today about the n C Double A and college basketball. Obviously,
I've never been a part of it, so I don't
know all the inns and outs about it. I don't
know all the rules and regulations about it. But I
do know what what five star athletes bring to a campus,

(01:09:26):
both and basketball and football. I know how much these
college coaches get paid. I know how much you know.
These colleges are are are gaining off these kids. Now.
It was Lebron today before his Cavaliers take on Brooklyn
in a game in the NBA and asked for the
n C double A. He wrapped it up with this,
it's correct. I'm sorry, it's gonna make helies, but it's correct.

(01:09:47):
Onto the NFL, where the lines of place the franchise
tag on defensive en ziggi on south. Former USC quarterback
Sam Donald won't throw at the NFL scouting combine, according
to ESPN. Instead, too he chose to just throw this
pro to at USC on. One report from the NFL
Network says the league's competition committee is considering eliminating the
going to the ground portion of hot to rule a catch.

(01:10:08):
Also the Washington Post saying that the league is considering
limiting pass interference penalties to fifteen yards and what could
be known as the Josh McDaniels rule DOUG could be
put in place, as the NFL is now looking at
eliminating the rule that would force teams to name head
coaches after the Super Bowl or once their teams are eliminated,
they could do so. While the assistants say would still

(01:10:29):
be in the playoffs, that rule could go by the wayside. Oh,
and it looks like Tim Lindsagum's going to be joining
the Texas Rangers, possibly being their closer. Help me out
with this, Okay, So there's a rule that they can't
name until after the season, after the after a team
gets eliminated. So when the Colts had to hold off
on naming Josh McDaniels their head coach, they are saying

(01:10:49):
now that they the new rule would allow the Colts
to hire Josh McDaniels even though the Patriots would still
be in the playoffs, So they would announce him as
their head coach and he would be the guy so
like the college football role, Yeah, coach and you can
still but you can still coach in the playoffs. Like
but that that this is proposed, it hasn't been passed, correct,

(01:11:12):
correct being talked. Won't pass it? Quick, quick, guess who
won't pass the You could be right on that, because
it has been brought up in the past and it
didn't pass. But there are reports that maybe because of
what McDaniels did could change the hearts and minds of
people this time around. You get to Hooters. You gotta

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get to Hooters and try the new smoke wings, the
whole new way to crave wings with all the taste
and believe or not half the calories so you can
eat half the collaries or you can eat twice as
much Hooters. You know, it's interesting what fans want, right,
Fans want things, and they get what they want, and
then they complain about what they if they get what

(01:11:54):
they want. That this happens in college sports. I brought
this up where a coach. You want a coach to
say and be loyal, and then they stay and they
stay too long and they have a bad season. You
want to get them out. In the NBA, have you
guys been paying attention by or have you been paying
attention when Anthony Davis has been doing. I know it's
it's getting suddenly a lot of talk nationally, but um

(01:12:15):
to those of us are trying to pay attention gaming
game out And look, I'm not gonna sit here and
and tell you I watch every Pelicans game, But when
I watch Pelicans games, or when I look at box
scores and I look at their record, and I'm realizing, wait,
Anthony Davis is playing without Boogie Cousins, whom they moved
away a bunch of pieces. He had fifty three last night,

(01:12:38):
eight offensive rebounds, eighteen rebounds total, five block shots, and
maybe most importantly, they want now should we point out
to beat the Suns. The Sons are atrocious, atrocious, but
the Pells. Pells are playing better, playing better. They in
fact have one. I think their last six games, is
that right? I think six? Remember they beat the Bucks

(01:13:01):
playoff team, beat the hell out of the Lakers, beat
the Pistons on the road. That's since they picked up
Blake Griffin. Like, here's the team won six in a row.
And I guess, like, here we go again, where Anthony
Davis has done everything that fans say you want a
guy to do. He welcomed in another star in Boogie Cousins.

(01:13:24):
He's to this point decided to stay in New Orleans.
He's been there for six years. He's averaging twenty eight
points a game average game. Last year, he's improved his
three point percentage to so he's gotten better every year.
You go back and I think it was like three
years ago. I remember he didn't even shoot ten from

(01:13:45):
three point range. Remember when they made the playoffs. This
is a true story. You guys remember when they made
the playoffs? Uh, and they had a I think he
was either tiebreaker or one game difference between them and
the Thunder Ryan Music. Do you remember that a couple
of years ago? Was that was the year that Durant
was hurt right and then? And so the Thunder barely

(01:14:06):
missed out. The Pelicans got in and they actually had
a relatively competitive four games against the Warriors, but they
did end up getting swept. Do you remember why they
made the playoffs? I do not. Two thousand Anthony Davis
made a three pointer and it beat the the Oklahoma
City Thunder the game and it was like a game

(01:14:28):
in like January or February something. He made a double
clutch three pointers. Do you know that was Do you
know that was the only three pointer he made all year?
I no, I had no idea it was the only
three pointer he made the entire season. Just happened to
be the one that eventually ultimately was a differenceing than
making the playoffs, not making the plos. But my point
is this, I don't know if he's the best player

(01:14:49):
in the league or the top five player in the league.
I'm intrigued by. We talked about this a little with
Thiago Splitter, and Thiago had some fascinating points. I know,
if you listen to the interview you go to iTunes
or Fox Sport Trader dot com wherever you download podcast
Downland the Dog Got Limp Show podcast, you can listen
to Thiago. We talked about most influential foreign player. He

(01:15:10):
was with me with Mano over Dirk and we talked
about fouls, and he also was with Lebron James. He's like, look,
we do protect jump shooters more than drivers, and he
said that shooting is a big part of it. What
I don't think he maybe understood, maybe got lost in translation,
like look, he's a guy Spence, uh speaks three languages,

(01:15:30):
Portuguese obviously his native language. It might have gotten lost
in translation. But I was trying to say, is like,
when can they adjust the officiating for the big guy,
because there's this group of big players, Yo, Kitchen Denver,
Joel Embiid prozingis when he returns Karl Anthony Towns and
the best of all of them is Anthony Davis, which

(01:15:52):
without really the protection of officiating, he's averaging game eleven
rebounds a game, two blocks a game, pretty remarkable. But
the thing that I think it resonates with me is
he's doing everything that fans say they want him to do,
say they want him to do, and um um. Yet

(01:16:22):
if he doesn't leave and he doesn't win, he's not
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(01:17:27):
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(01:18:08):
Con Coward said this to say about Russell Westbrook. Russell
Westbrook is getting worse with this group of all stars.
In his last three games, he has shot twenty six
percent with twenty turnovers. The Warriors are in his head
and this thing in Oklahoma City. Yeah, I know they
struggled to beat Orlando. It's a mess right now, but
yet James Harden is working perfectly with Chris Paul. Now,

(01:18:33):
I want you to think about that on paper. On paper,
most of you predicted that Chris Paul and James Harden
would not work, and you made a lot of sense
when you made the argument on paper, Houston shouldn't be
this good. On paper, Oklahoma City should be much much better.
But instead, remember Michael Jordan and the Bulls had the

(01:18:54):
triangle offense in Oklahoma City. Now it's the Bermuda triangle offense.
Points are disap peering and nobody can figure it out.
I love con and I love that he liked to
troll Russell Westbrook. Oh man, that's funny. That's hilarious. It's
really really funny. Um. Look, he's not wrong. It's been bad.

(01:19:18):
Thunder aren't playing good basketball. But I actually think it
points to two different parts. One, yes, Russell Westbrook, uh
can't struggle with the shooting and can't get on the
selfish side. But most most importantly, have you noticed that
Karmilo Anthony has fallen off greatly. They can't hide him
defensively and he can't get by anybody offensively, become simply
a jump shooter because he's washed in terms of being

(01:19:41):
one of the great scores in the league, which he was,
which he was. So um yeah, look I think um,
I think Colin doesn't like how Russell Westbrook plays and
they haven't helped him because what Westbrook really needs is
not just shooters around him. When he was actually actually

(01:20:03):
at his best early in his career, they played James
Harden at the point. They haven't found another ball handler
that he can play with. They haven't found another guy
to come in and move Russell Westbrook off the ball
where he doesn't have to settle the people up. He
can just go, and that makes it really hard. So
Colin's not wrong. It is the Bermuda trial offense. He

(01:20:24):
has three guys are all alpha's, but only two guys
that are able to make shots as alpha's, And of
course Paul George's shooting percentage has been down all year long.
I think some of it is Westbrook. I think a
good portion of it is also that karmenlo Anthony is
not nearly what Karmeno Anthony's reputation would allow you to believe.

(01:20:45):
Clay Travis had this to say about the NFL combine
becoming well must watch TV. I think the NFL Combine,
which has turned into must watch television, is better than
regular season NBA. I think it's better than regular season
call ledge basketball outside of the n C Double A Tournament.
I think it's certainly better than regular season hockey and
regular season Major League baseball. I would rather watch guys

(01:21:08):
and I'm embarrassed to say this, guys in spandex perform
in the underwear Olympics in Indianapolis, then I would regular
season sports in other major sports. That's how big the
NFL combine has become. You can bet offshore on all
sorts of interesting question, who's going to have the best forty,
who's gonna have the best wonderlick, All sorts of amazing

(01:21:32):
different aspects of the NFL Combine you can bet on. Um.
I wouldn't go that far. I'm intrigued by the combine.
I like watching it. I think it's interesting. But yeah no,
yeah no, um yeah no, I don't uh one. The

(01:21:55):
one thing it does point to is just how freaky
some of these guys are as athletes. You watch these
gigantic human beings run four sixes, four sevens, and four eights,
and you realize they're upwards of three pounds. Then you
start to think, I can't believe that men that large
can move that fast, But they can. Am I willing

(01:22:17):
to say I'd rather watch that than a Major League
Baseball game. I would not, definitely not more than an
NBA game, Definitely more than an NFL game. So a
little hyperbole from our boy at outkicked the coverage. Only
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two days of shows and then Friday, I'll be calling
on radio the Big Ten Tournament in Madison. Square Guard.
Now Jim Delaney, the commissioner the Big Ten, who is
just an absolute genius what he's been able to do
with this conference. He's come out and said, you know,

(01:23:00):
we'll want a good idea to tighten the schedule, play
the conference tournament this early. What's what's fascinating is he's
getting heat, but nobody's pointing out the SEC tournament is
gonna be a disaster. It's in St. Louis this year,
and if Kentucky goes down early, Missouri goes down early.
I'm talking about nobody there in a place that people
don't care about SEC basketball. I want to get to

(01:23:25):
Oklahoma City struggles. I want to get to Lebron James
and the Calves struggles and the re emergence of the
Warriors is the best team. Chris Persar joins me next
in the Doug Gotlimp Show. What Up It's Doug got
Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Let me go off for
one second for Crisper. Sorry, joins us. I don't like
people who make ridiculously uneducated statements, even when they're smart people.

(01:23:46):
I like Jalen Rose. I think he's good on TV.
I think he's pretty good on radio. What he has
said is indefensibly stupid and uneducated for a bright person who,
oh yeah, by the way, has his own charter school.
Like if it runs, it runs counter to everything he's doing.

(01:24:09):
Jalen Rose played in two four teams with the Fab Five.
They had to take down the banners because they were
taking money from a booster. And so now when the
n s A is investigating some coaches and some players,
this is what people do like, oh yeah, by the way,
like paying players is not going to change the idea
of corruption here actually saying well, corruption is good. We're
just all it's gonna make is the bidding more increase.

(01:24:32):
But for a guy who I believe understands the value
of education, not valuing the education that he got for
free or the popularity. Michigan didn't win anything. They didn't
win a Big Ten title, they didn't win a national title,
and yet they're revered because of their baggy shorts. They
were cool guys, they related a cool style, and they
kind of took college basketball by storm. And he has

(01:24:55):
a success story. His brand that he built isn't based
upon the play in the NBA. Is a good NBA player,
But Jayleen ro has been a name for himself in
two seasons with Michigan. That's it. Two seasons, and yet
now he's calling on college basketball players to boycott the
n c A term until they're paid. Um, let me

(01:25:18):
help you out here. Okay, let me just explain something.
First of all, you're calling on players like, so wait,
you mean to tell me a kid from Lola, Chicago
makes the n C A term Like he shouldn't play
because he's not being paid, Like what like, who are
you talking about? Who are the players of value? And

(01:25:39):
oh yeah, by the way, if you really this is
this to me is akin to what happened with uh
Jamal Hill. Right, Jamal Hill basically got herself run off
Sports Center because she called on uh. She called on
people to boycott sponsors of the Dallas Cowboys over their

(01:26:01):
handling over what Jerry Jones said about the the flag protests.
Who are the two biggest media entities who are rights
holders for the NBA? One has ESPN we worked for.
One is Turner Sports, who doesn't work for right who

(01:26:22):
holds the rights to the n c A tournament who
spent eight billion dollars? And by the way, I understand
you think that college basketball has eight billion dollars, means
it's the only reasons valuable is the bracket. People aren't
watching college basketball games unless they went to the school
or they have tied to the conference, maybe to check

(01:26:44):
in on a coach and their team. The brands is
what's cell Maybe a player here there. I'm not gonna
deny that. And if there're any good they go to
the NBA. But the reason the tournament is valuable is
because the bracket turner knows that they spent a ton
of money. They extended the deal. So if you you're
biting the hand that feeds the NBA, the same people

(01:27:05):
that are paying the salaries of NBA players are the
ones who are invested in the success of college basketball.
If you want college basketball to change, if you want
to if you want to ruin an n c A tournament,
you're gonna ruin the relationship with Turner Sports. You are like,
it's all interconnected, and the lack of wherewithal is stunning,

(01:27:28):
But I guess it's not stunning considering like, look, Jalen
should know that his popularity his He's a success story,
there's no doubt about it. But it's he benefited way
more from playing at Michigan than Michigan benefit from him.
It's just true. Michigan's fine. I get billions of dollars

(01:27:51):
in endowment and nothing to do with Jalen Rose nothing,
And by the way, they've been just as successful not
cheating with John b Lyne. I just don't like it
when smart people, and I think Jail is pretty smart, um,
when smart people say stupid things, things that are uh

(01:28:15):
that that that really go counter to some of the
virtues that they've lived by. I don't I don't get it.
I don't get the vitriol. Yeah, they took down your banners.
They took down your banners because you broke rules. Dude,
they took down your banners because you were cheating. And
you may think it was okay. That is just a
guy who's just a great uh. And then media people

(01:28:40):
give him, We give him a platform, and that platform
was created because of his success in college and some
because of his success in the pros. Chris Bruce joined
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Chris
explained to me, I don't understand the sudden vitriol from
Lebron and from and from Jalen Rose and some other

(01:29:01):
NBA players. Can you? I can? I mean, so you're
saying you don't think n double the n C Double
A is using these great college basketball players. It's not
amaturism anymore. It's professional sport. N C Double A, Division one,
Big Time Basketball and football are professional sports. We as

(01:29:24):
the media cover them like professional sport. Everybody outside of
the athletes makes money on them like their professional sports.
I I don't totally agree with Jalen and that a
lot of the kids. Most of these kids aren't going
to the NBA, so they should stay in college, playball,
get their education. But if a Marvin Bagley, if some

(01:29:48):
of these superstars and DeAndre Ayton said I'm boy cotton
until we get because we're not getting paid, I wouldn't
have a problem with it. The then will go on
without them, It will go on with that. And they
didn't have to go to college, they get why did
they go to the college instead of going to the

(01:30:08):
G League? Answer answer me that answer that question, and
and you love me. I will. I think that we
all as Americans growing up, we're all caught up in
the tradition of playing in college. There's no doubt about,
Like most of us don't even think about, you know,

(01:30:30):
going overseas to play four years, going to the G League.
We are caught up in the pagrintry. And I'll admit,
as someone who thinks the n C double A system
is incredibly corrupt, one who thinks it uses these top
notch players and everybody else gets paid except the players,
I do admit I would miss big time college basketball

(01:30:53):
and football the way it is. But the fact that
I would miss it, the fact that I enjoy it,
does that mean it's right? And it is not. I
think what they should go to is just a free
market system. Like Doug, when you were in college, if
the local radio station had come to you, they recognize
your talent, they said, man, he's gonna be great one

(01:31:14):
day as a radio broadcaster host show host, and they
gave you a show if you didn't play basketball, because
because you played basketball, you wouldn't have been able to
get a show and get paid. But if you actually
actually did actually did do a show. I actually did
get paid for doing a show in college. Was that
was that against the rules? Why not? I thought you

(01:31:38):
couldn't have a job. No, you can have a job.
There's just there's a limit to what you can make.
I mean, that's again, that's the problem is that's the
problem is most people don't actually most people don't actually
know the rules. Understand emit if I okay, I I
if I'll explain to you to protect all of a
lot of these rules have been put in place or
to protect a student athlete that believe bleed or not. Now,

(01:32:00):
some of the rules are dumb from being over for
being overworked, from having to need money, from having to
need to go to outside sources, from having to pay taxes.
Like the idea that they're not getting anything, Marvin Bagley goes,
I mean something because they're giving the other students what
other students. The other students aren't. Other students don't get

(01:32:23):
the benefits that the student athletes get right like look
like like like promotion, like coaching, like facilities, like all
the first cut of everything on campus, and then when
you're done, you get the first runt of all the jobs.
Like this idea that you don't benefit from it is
bull let's let's you should they why college coaches are

(01:32:47):
making millions of dollars off of these kids who are
getting nothing? What do you mean? What do you mean
they're getting nothing? Do you mean nothing? That's up to
hold on, hold on wait. You asked a question. I'll
let you answer. You asked me a question, I'll answer.
That's up to Marvin Bagley. Okay, what are you talking about? It?

(01:33:10):
Stop it? Luke is not interested in educating Marvin back.
How do you say? Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,
why are you saying that? Chris? Chris, Chris, Why are
you saying that? Do you know that for a fact? Wait? Wait,
do you know that for a fact? You have no idea? Zero? Chris, Chris,

(01:33:32):
I love you. You made a statement that you have
zero idea if it's accurate. Additionally, additionally, anytime Marvin Bagley
going to do to get an education, I don't know,
that's up to him. He got into Duke because hold on,
if he's only planned on being there for one year,
is he going there to get an education? Well, you

(01:33:52):
don't understand. He can come back any time he wants
and be on scholarship again. So so he what they
granted him was they granted him uh into a school
that he could never get into on his own. Okay,
none of these guys, we can never get into our own.
They granted him full grant aide. Okay, it's seventy grand
post in post tax is essentially a value that probably

(01:34:14):
on a grand and he none. They don't make a
single because they don't make a single penny because of
Marvin Bagley. If Marvin Bagley doesn't play, Duke still makes
the exact same amount of money. There is no garrelation
between Marvin back zero, not a single penny and and
you're making the assumption that he's not getting an education,

(01:34:36):
which might be the case. I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm not I'm saying two things. I'm making an assumption
if he's not staying for two at least two three years. Wait,
you can't. He can. He can go to Sharifa Si
Rahim Sharif ab Do. Raheim went to cal for one year, left,
became an NBA player in the off season, like most

(01:34:58):
of these guys did. He would come back and he
trained and he got his degree from that. He got
his education. Okay, but he was still getting it. He's
still getting it paid for. He's still he's still getting
it paid for by the school school still PA. That's nice.
But he didn't need to play for at that point.
He could for himself. Okay, But but you ask what

(01:35:19):
he's getting. I still again, the point is, Marvin Bagley
didn't have to go and and and a full education.
It's only a full education if you want it to be.
It's only a full education if you wanted to be
that's your choice. That like the whole fight has always
been for equal education for people of all races, from

(01:35:40):
all backgrounds, regardless of where you come from, how bad
your educational basis? When and now a sudden somebody says,
hey man, all you gotta do is play whoop here
for as long as you want to stay, and I'm
gonna give you a free education. And look, if you
want to leave, you leave whatever you want and you
come back whenever you want to get your education. And
that's a bad thing. How is that a bad thing?
We had you would? Are you telling me the current

(01:36:01):
system is not corrupt? Well? Where is? Tell me? Well,
you're using the word corrupt? Who is? Where is the
where is the corruption occurring? Who is it? Who is
who is corrupt? It's occurring with the agents? Okay, but
that the agent, the agents are the one and done
rule is an NBA rule. If NBA players care so much,

(01:36:24):
why don't they change the NBA rule? And it's not
a college. I don't disagree with that. I think that's
a good point. There is no disagree there's no I'm
talking about the NBA players can push to get rid
of that rule. And if they, if they're so concerned
about the n C double A system being corrupt, then
I agree with you. They can push to change that rule.

(01:36:46):
That's what I'm agreeing with you on. And here's here's
here's why why can't it be a free market system?
Because because all right, you ready for it? How many
how many things you want to want me to hit
you with? Hit me with? However you got? Okay? So
um let's see here. Look, I think you're kind of
oversimplifying it. I really do. And there's a legitimate case

(01:37:09):
for the top tier athletes. But um, are we paying
them income now? So if they're paying income now, you
know that they have to pay taxes on the income
as well as taxes on the benefit. Wait to have
to pay taxes on the benefits from schools as well. Okay,
And and so are we grading them loans loans? They
can already go out and get you know, they can

(01:37:29):
go and get like Marvin Bagley or whoever. If you
have it, you come from a tough background, you know,
you can go to seventy federal loan and then pay
it off you want otherwise otherwise you're otherwise you're coming.
If look if Nike, if Nike wants to pay Marvin
Bagley two million dollars for him to go to Nike
already paid Marvin Bagley. That's the problem. Nike already paid Marvin.

(01:37:52):
Marvin Bagley's dad was working for Nike the past couple
of years legally. Okay, so the idea that we would
go to college had a job, his dad had a job.
I don't like that's paying the sun. My dad had
a job to that This traveler's insurance company wasn't paying me. Okay,
that's a dad with a job. But if Nike wants

(01:38:13):
to give or let's say Adidas, this is dad's work
for Nike. If Adidas wants to pay him two million
dollars for him to go to do then what's wrong
with that? And and for the swimmer to who maybe
an olympian but in college and gets endorsement deals, that's
fine too. Other eighteen year olds can do it. Why

(01:38:33):
not the athletes, in fact, they can do it year
old and other sports. So you're saying, so you're okaying
basketball players, Doug. So you're saying it's okay to pay
high school kids. That's what you're saying. Now I'm talking
about college. No, No, you just said thirteen and four
year olds, because that is part of the point. If
you're saying it's okay if you're saying it's okay in college,

(01:38:56):
you're saying, like, look, you don't have the big problem.
You don't really White NBA personnel people don't like college athletics.
They don't want to go to college to be basketball
coaches because they don't want to suck up the high
school kids that think they're entitled to something. And now
we're all saying they're entitled. And there's other reasons too.
You have to deal with a lot of stuff in
the NBA is basketball period. In college, you gotta deal

(01:39:16):
with a lot of other meths, with boosters and you know,
shaking hands and grieve, you know, all that stuff. They
don't want to deal with that stuff too. You know,
when I brought up thirteen and fourteen year olds, I'm
talking about the thirteen fourteen year old tennis player who
can play professionally. That's that's that's that's great. That's that's great.
I mean I can also make the case like, look,
lawyers have to go to school for a certain amount

(01:39:38):
of time. Doctors have to go to school for a
certain amount of time. If you want, you like to
be a lawyer, you gotta pass the l set and
you gotta go to Like what the NBA has set
in place is you have to go to school for
a year, or go to prep school for your or
go to the G League. This has nothing to do
with going to college. If you if you, if you
want to go to college, this is the deal, and
it's a really good deal for nine point percent of guys.

(01:40:00):
And if you want to make the Marvin Bagley, is
that good argument, I'm not gonna necessarily disagree with you.
I think he's great. I think DeAndre Atton's great, But
I think they benefit more from being in college then
and they actually the truth is they need more time
in college, that's the truth. Like they need more seasoning
than when they come out. They're not ready. They're not ready.
You need a time between being a high school kid

(01:40:22):
and being a professional. That's in terms of bathrooms, hall
or just life both. Well, there are a lot of
people who spend time in college who make asinine decisions,
and there are a lot of people that didn't spend
a day in college in the NBA, Tracy McGrady, no problems,
Lebron James, no problems, Kevin Garnett, no problem. I mean,

(01:40:45):
you can't say that the kids that go to college
or anymore socially better off than the kids that didn't go.
When we look at NBA players, I would say, I
would say, I would say, I would say Tracey, Tracy McGrady,
here's trade McGrady. Trace McGrady never learned how to win,
never learned how to win, wasn't a winner, couldn't get
out of college. There's a lot of guys we don't.

(01:41:09):
It's it's true, it's true. But I look at the
Golden State Warriors, and I say those guys went to college, improved,
understood about winning, understood about team play, more of us
than we could make an argument either way, Doug. I
do agree that if when kids were like Michael Jordan
played three years at North Carolina, he learned how to
play in the system. You know, I do agree from

(01:41:32):
a strictly basketball standpoint that it would be better for
the game if guys went to college and learned under
these great coaches for three years and then went into
the NBA, and they'd be ready right away. I do
agree with you there, But I'm saying from a fairness
standpoint in life outside of basketball, I don't think it's

(01:41:54):
fair these great players are generating so much money for everybody.
Not but but they're but they're but they're not but
but they're they are. No, they're not. Duke isn't making
money off of his basketball program. Yes, but they're making
money because their basketball program has been great for thirty

(01:42:15):
years because these great players go there, the great players,
the great players come and go. Let them all stop
going there. Okay, so here's here's the last point. Okay,
what school has the biggest endowment in the country. What
school actually makes the most money off of their students? Harvard? Harvard?

(01:42:40):
How competitive are they athletically? The idea is looking. That
doesn't mean other schools aren't making money off of the program. Schools,
every schools make money off of all of their students,
all of them. And a point, Doug, and if a
student at Harvard is great enough that an engineering company

(01:43:02):
cos to them and says, you know what, I want
to hire you. I want to pay you a year
to get your to work for my company, and you
can still go to Harvard and graduate. They don't know.
They don't know. They don't that's that's that's absolutely not true.
Here's what they do. Here's here's what they do. This
is the truth. Chris said, you make a great point. Okay,
you are correct. They say you can come work for us,
and people withdraw from Harvard with the opportunity to return

(01:43:26):
to however they want. You don't have yes to make
five with an engineering company. Yes, you do, you withdraw
from Harvard, you do it, But do you have to
It's the exact same thing. It's the exact same thing
as basketball. It's the exact same thing. Look, if you
can balance the two, you don't have to with You

(01:43:48):
don't have to withdraw. You don't have to get money
if you let me. Yes, but they're not on scholarship.
They're not on scholarship at Harvard. Can I pay the picture? Okay?
Another school that's not non scholarship. Okay. So let's say, uh,
Ohio State. I'm an engineering student at Ohio State. I'm great,

(01:44:10):
I'm a prodigy, and an engineering company comes to me
and says, we want to pay you five hundred thousand
dollars a year, and you can stay at Ohio State
if you want. I choose to stay at Ohio State graduate.
And while I'm at Ohio State as a student, I'm
still being paid and working for my engineering company. The
difference is if if an NBA team wants to pay

(01:44:33):
me five hundred thousand or whatever to play basketball, I
can no longer stay at the school because I'm no
longer an amateur. And the amateurism thing is what I
have a problem with. These guys and the amateurs understand
under the scenario, Under the scenario you just created, I

(01:44:53):
would love it if if an NBA team could say
you will use user farm system, will pay for it.
Here's the only problem. You just created a scenario that
doesn't actually exist. It just doesn't love you. I gotta go.
I can't wait to hear your show on the weekend.
Thanks for joining us, enjoyed it all right, Christo Rus.
Sorry joining us in the doug otlip show got heated,

(01:45:15):
but believe me, we're actually friends. We just differ greatly
on this, but that was that was fun um alright.
Jordan Bohanna is gonna join us upcoming very soon. He's
placed for Iowa. He did what I thought was a
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be joined by a co record holder in the Big
ten or for the University of Iowa in a second.
What he did I thought was was really amazing. I mean,
it's one of those chilling god like you know. I
wish I was that mature at that young age, But

(01:47:04):
I do wonder why he tied the record. We'll ask
Jordan Bohannon about the mis free throw which occurred, and
it's in regards to a player who he wasn't even
alive when Chris Street was alive. We'll kind of tell
that story in a second. First, so let's let's bring
in Dan Buyer and find out what else is going
on the world of sports. Dan, when he got a
couple of quick notes, the Detroit Lines today placed the

(01:47:24):
franchise tag on defensive en Ziggiansa. So if he doesn't
get a long term deal, could play the eighteen season
for over seventeen million dollars in Motown. Former USC quarterback
Sam Donald reportedly won't throw at the NFL Combine this week,
but he is expected to throw at the USC Pro
Day according to ESPN, that comes up on March twenty one.
Some newser Major League Baseball, two time Sunny Young Award

(01:47:45):
winning pitcher Tim Lindscom is going to join the Texas
Rangers and possibly as a closer, according to Yahoo Sports,
while John Luster has been named as the Cubs opening
day starting pitcher. Lebron James on the n C Double
A today, Correct, Sorry, it was gonna make Haylies, but
disc and that was before Lebron and the Calves take
on the Brooklyn Nets tonight. Doug, I love when players

(01:48:08):
who haven't played in college comment on what it's actually
like to play in college. That's always I talked about.
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Are farmers. It's been a tough season for the University

(01:48:30):
of Iowa. They had, they had high expectations, high hopes.
But to this point, again, there's still the Big Ten Tournament,
which gets on the way tomorrow at Madison's. Remember they're
playing Madison Square Garden. They're playing a week early, and
I'll be broadcasting the radio side of the Big Ten Tournament.
Uh So, of course, Hope springs eternal. But one of
the teams that people thought would be an n c

(01:48:51):
A tournament team has had frankly disappointing year. That's the
University of Iowa. But I think our next guest actions
have taken away any sort of negativity and shine a
light on, uh some positive stuff. Jordan Bohannan is a
sophomore guard for the University of Iowa. Of course you
may remember his brother played for Wisconsin UM and he

(01:49:13):
joined us on the Doug Gallant Show. Just made thirty
four consecutive free throes. I want to get to the
free throws in a second. But Jordan, what, why has
that the season not gone the way you guys thought
it would go. Yeah, obviously we had a pretty decent
start playing teams are obviously lesser competition, but we thought
we started out pretty well and we got down in
the Cayman Islands and we just, um, some struggles started

(01:49:36):
to arise, and it was kind of frustrating because we
thought we would obviously be in a different position than
we are right now. UM just trying to fight for
a live strike to n C A UM, but obviously
just inconsistently inconsistently throughout the entire season. It just led
to a couple of problems, and um, we could be
very really good for a couple of minutes of the
game and just really bad for the game. So it's
just been frustrating this year. Well, let's we'll see if

(01:49:58):
you guys can put it together. Madison Square Garden, I
think a lot of people know the story by now,
But you were creeping up on Chris Streets all time.
Iowill record of thirty four consecutive made free throws. When
did you know you were getting close to the record. Yeah,
I knew probably around and um obviously already knew the record.

(01:50:20):
I was pretty close with Mike Petty Street, the parents
of Chris Street, and UM just got to normally these
past couple of years and just started listening to Chris's
story and the kind of impact he had on the
tire state of Iowa and just really got to me.
So as when I was around twenty twenty four free throws,
I kind of figured I'm always probably myself and being

(01:50:40):
a good file shooter, So I kind of figured at
some point in the season I'd be able to get
to that that record, and Um, I kind of had
a decision to make if I really wanted to go
for UM. I wanted to kind of pay a tribute
to him for kind of just thank him for everything
that he was for this university. Um obviously I decided
to go on that different road than probably some people

(01:51:01):
thought I would, But I'm really happy how it all
turned out. Okay, So for people you don't know, you
tied the record and then intentionally missed the free throw
in order to allow the record to stay. Why not
miss it not? Why not missed the thirties after thirty
three so that he'd still have the record? Right? Yeah,
obviously people have been saying that as well. But me

(01:51:23):
being from uh I was actually born, I was a
city where University Io was is and UM grew up
always a Hawkkeye fan, always wanted to Um play for
the Hawk guys. Um always was a Dreamlines a little
kid and obviously, uh, just watching them growing up, and
Chris was kind of just the same kid as I was.
He grew up in Iowa, was Iowa native, played for

(01:51:45):
his dream school, and UM, that kind of I kind
of felt that really kind of a spiritual connection with him.
Um that really hit home with me. And UM, when
I was kind of making decision if I should go
up for it or not for the record, UM, some
just told me that I should do what's right in
my heart and that that was just to tie in. UM,
kind of just pay a tribute after I missed one. Okay,

(01:52:07):
so you get up to the line, right, you get
the line, You're like, okay, I gotta miss this one,
but you don't want to like shoot an airball or
you I guess you could have just thrown at the backboard.
But maybe then it goes in. Uh what was what was?
What's the thought? Like? Tell what you're You're like, I
think you're a three dribble guy, right, don't you go
three dribbles up and just fire fire and shoot the
basketball for dribbles? Deep breath? You get up and what

(01:52:29):
are you thinking? Um? Well, first off. It was a
interesting point of the game because we're kind of a
scoring drought, and um, there's about two minutes, minute and
half left in the game. Um, we got to Northwestern
up seven men, we're just we come off the first half.
We're up twenty or so coming in the second half,
and we went on a little dry like I said,
and I was kind of had a little bit in

(01:52:49):
decision myself going on street line. I didn't know if
I really want to go through with this or not.
But um, obviously I knew that this game will take
care of itself, that this one free throw I won't
matter too much in the long run, and um, obviously
I kind of want to hit the front of him
just see if we could get offensive rebound, just trying
to keep the player play alive at least. But um,
they rebounded, but we got the ball right back, so

(01:53:10):
it all worked out. Did anybody else know what you
had planned to do? Um? I spoke closely with a
couple of family members, but that I was about it. Um,
no one really knew. Obviously Coach mccaffree, no, Um, he
was kind of frustrating with me at first. I think
when when I missed it. He was like, what the
heck is going on? He does in mis free throws,
but obviously newing the long run. What wanta mentioned Chris

(01:53:32):
and his parents, I know, plus like your your offensive
rebounds are sitting there like, oh my god, this thing's
coming off hard. That's not that's not usually what would
happen when you're at the line, like they weren't even
they weren't expecting it. Yeah, exactly. That's what sometime of
cooks told me after the games, like, I wish that
you would have told me that you're missing the short
I was able to go off to the rebounds because
normally they don't go after my three throws. Jordan Bohannon

(01:53:53):
joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. He made thirty
four consecutive free throws, but wanted to miss that thirty
five so you could tie Chris Streets record. Street was
an Iowa kid. He was a junior um. He just
after a team dinner. He was with his girlfriend. He
got struck by a snowplow in Iowa City. He died.
They canceled getting the game. I believe. I believe the
game that they canceled was against Northwestern early enough, So

(01:54:14):
there's kind of all of that. And of course the
game which you tied the record was against Northwestern. UM,
so you get done, you walk off the court, and
Chris Street's parents were there. What they say to you.
Obviously that was a really really emotional time for all
of us. Obviously, like I said, I've been really close
to him these past couple of years. And Um, Mike
was a little upset with me a little after the

(01:54:36):
game because he wanted me to go for and break
the record, and he said that Chris would trying to
give me, give me Kraft for not breaking the record.
But uh, obviously they're They're both wonderful people, and they
were just exchanges a couple of words just uh they
said how how thankful they were of me, just thinking
of Chris, and UM, that just just meant a lot
for me for a long be able to see that
connection with me. All Right, there's a lot of talk

(01:54:58):
about all the stuff going on in college basketball, UM,
with with the scandals, the FBI stuff. Your brother played,
he's a really good player. You're playing, UM like your
whole family like that. You've been You've been a part
of this for a long time. What are your feelings
about the college basketball discussions in regards to the n
c AINT some of these rules. I mean, obviously, I
think the system at hand right now is just really

(01:55:20):
goodding um kind of put out there that's how corrupt
it really is and kind of shows kind of how
undermined we are as student athletes, and um just not
being able to profit off name, image or likeness or
stuff like that, and um really just dumb sticking to
their amateurism principles is obviously something that's kind of hit

(01:55:42):
home with me ever since I started being a college athlete.
And I know that's some of my brother advocated when
he was at Wisconsin, going through the Huntle floor and um,
stuff like that. So I think that's something. Obviously, it's
really frustrating time being a student athlete because we know
what are what rights should be, um right honestly for us,
and it's just it's just a weird time for all

(01:56:03):
of us, do you. Uh. I guess the thought though,
is there's a presumption from some that all these guys
are getting paid anyway, right, all these guys are getting
getting paid under the table. How accurate is that presumption
from your perspective? Right? Obviously being close to the uh
college basketball and playing it. Obviously you you obviously hear

(01:56:24):
heare all these stories of kids going to a certain
school and they're getting paid how much? But obviously, um,
it's not out in the public like everyone knows when
they're not a part of college of basketball. But once
you get once you get in here, and you understand
how corrupt it really is and how um it's truly
a business and we are obviously treated as employees and um,
it's just it's honestly a job for us. And I

(01:56:47):
don't know a certain job out there that doesn't um
require require pay, and obviously student athletes are one of them.
There's also not a job out there that doesn't require
taxes on the benefits. You know, there's like two two
parts to come to it. Like I know it's only
in state tuition, but it is. Uh, it's yeah, I look,
I've I've been through it. I thought it was a
pretty sweet gig, but I would I would disagree with you,

(01:57:09):
but you're absolutely entitled to your opinion. Listen, congrats on
the record, and I can't wait to see in New
York and hopefully it's more than just a one and done.
We'll see the Hawkeyes and Masson Square Garden appreciate you
joining us on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciate it. Thank you
all right, that's Jordan Bohanon. Uh. It's like, look, well
we'll get to obviously the amateurism thing um in a

(01:57:30):
in a second. But you know, look, the idea that
a kid understands who wasn't you know Chris Street. You
get the Chris Street Award every year at Iowa, and
it's for a guy who most exemplifies what Chris Street
was and to kind of understand that. And in this
me me me age, I can't say enough about a
young man who steps up to the line and says,

(01:57:50):
I don't want the record, let's tie the record, and
especially when his team actually needed a bucket. That's Jordan
Bohannon of the Iowa Hawkeyes, who will be a mastering
Scarre Garden playing. Look, the the idea of it being
a job is this, And I didn't wanted to get
in another debate with him, and like, look, if you
want to call it a job, I'm okay with that,
but what job you do not pay taxes on? Do

(01:58:11):
not pay taxes? Even if you you say the free
healthcare insurance. You're not paying a tax benefit on it.
And there's also a limit to the number of hours
you can work. And if you want to say, well,
I went in the gym and I shot, but I
was working, like, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. It's
twenty hours a week for full room board, tuition, all
the other benefits that you get, you know, getting into

(01:58:32):
schools that and you're getting into schools that you probably
couldn't get into. You're getting benefits that you probably couldn't get.
And my guy, like Jordan Bohannan, I think he's a
really good player. I can't tell you that his name,
image and likeness is actually super super valuable. And you
could say, well, in Iowa City setting that record, could
they make some T shirts? Could they sell them? Sure?
Sure they could, And that might that might might If

(01:58:55):
you sold him for a year, you might be able
to earn enough for tuition. But then he would have
to pay taxes on it. So and we're talking about
the exception, not the rule. Remember, if it's a job,
you're fire able. Can't fire guys in college basketball, Yes
you can't. You can cut this, No you can't. You
cannot Those are four years scholarships. So I don't know

(01:59:20):
a job in which guys don't get paid. Um. Actually
there's lots of them. They're called internships. But I think
college athletes are paid. They are compensated. They're compensated with
room board, tuition, per diem, etcetera, cost of attendance, and
they don't have They might not have the upside of
the workforce, but there's no downside being fired, taxes, um,

(01:59:45):
having to pay for health care, insurance, having to pay
for anything. Really. So it's a fascinating discussion. And by
the way, I know that some people think this is new,
and no it's not. Go back and look historically, and
this discussion has been had for fifty years fifty Online
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(02:00:27):
the debates continue. We might take some calls and this
stuff tomorrow. Boys, what a great show. Uh, great show
that Ryan Music and Cyndy Cats already working on tomorrow's show.
If you missed any of it, download the Doug Otli
Show podcast. We already tweeted out that debate between me
and Chris Broussard, which we did yell at each other,
but we're still friends. Um. I don't have any friends

(02:00:48):
that don't yell at me, or that I don't yell
at real friends. Right, Um, what do you got working tomorrow? Music?
You've been doing some stuff. I'm catching up on emails here.
You think about Ryan, We have music. We have the
great Matt Miller from Bleacher Report. He's an NFL draft analysts.
He'll be joining us to discuss all of the chatter
coming out of the combine in Indianapolis, as well as

(02:01:12):
Rick Buker, longtime NBA insider writer commentator. You guys can
discuss if the Cavaliers are going to be able to
get things right to get back on the same level
of the Warriors. And lastly, CBS NFL insider Will Brinson
maybe talk about this uh few that's constantly going on
between Roger Goodell and uh Jerry Jones. All right, I'll

(02:01:32):
be on the call of the Paul Creighton at eight
o'clock UH Central time, nine o'clock East, six o'clock West,
Fox Sports one tonight. Let's get to the press. All right,
here's what we do. Try and get in as many
things as you might have missed during the day, a
little opinion of it. Then we'll head it off to
Steve Gorman Sports. Here's my good friend Dan Buyer. Dan.
NFL is going to need to look for a new

(02:01:54):
pizza sponsor because they are parting ways with Papa John's. Yes,
remember the drama that occurred when former CEO, I guess
Papa John Schnatter said that the pizza sales were down
because of the NFL protests. Well he's no longer the CEO,
and now the NFL looking for a new pizza sponsor.
I mean, Omaha pizza. Do you know what pizza's famous?
And Omaha, No, I don't, Godfather's Pizza. Sure, all right,

(02:02:20):
I would nominate Blaze Pizza. Lebron owns a good portion
of those Blaze pizza. Pretty awesome, Godfather Pizza. They make
you pizza you can't refuse. Oh it's so good. What
else you got? I think? I think Dominoes is actually
gonna slide in there. I don't know, just me um.
The catch roll and the elimination of going to the
ground could be eliminated from future rules as the NFL

(02:02:43):
continues to discuss how to determine to catch j I mean,
if you actually catch the ball, you get rewarded for
catching the ball. Crazy, that's crazy. Also, there could be
a change to pass interference calls. Instead of the spot
of the foul infraction, it could be a fifteen yard
penalty max on all pass in or farence calls called
on the defense. The problem becomes, what happens if you

(02:03:03):
get be just start pulling guys down on the last
play from scrimmage. That's still there problem. The T n
T and SAD. The NBA crew is gonna broadcast this
Thursday show from the set of Saturday Night Saturday Night Live.
Charles Barkley will be the host this Saturday Night. They'll
be joined on set by some SNL cast members. Sounds
like fun. It sounds like a lot of fun. By

(02:03:24):
the way, he loves uh, he loves Don Julio favorite drink. Okay.
The US Court of Appeals ruled in favor of Nike
following a lawsuit against the company claiming they used the
photo of Michael Jordan by Jacobus rent Mester to develop
the jump Man logo. He apparently dug took the picture
in four says it was what Nike ended up using

(02:03:45):
as the jump Man logo, and he wanted all the
proceeds from there. Not all the proceeds, but a cut
of the Jordan brand sales. But not gonna happen. US
Court of Appeals sides with Nike. Everybody wants to cut right,
everybody wants to cut by the way, the n C
the the Supreme Court ruled that d n s A
can continue. Yet I don't know why we keep arguing this,

(02:04:06):
but go ahead. Ba Wow beat Lakers point guard Alonzo
Ball in a shooting contest once known as low bow Wow.
I think he's now just bow Wow making the rounds
on social media. Now it should be noted Alonzo one
game one, but it was bow Wow who won game
two of the shooting contest. Bow of course went to
usc for short period time. I was gonna play basketball there.
Two times saw young award winning pitcher Tim Lentzon come,

(02:04:27):
it's found a new home. Get us on a deal
with the Texas Rangers where he could be used as
a closer. They get out there and pressed that was
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Dug Outlip Show. I thought we had pretty spirited discussion.
I don't understand the vitriol and hYP everybody keeps hopping
in on this deal. Uh, when most rules are made
for the people, not one percent of the people. It's
the cool thing to do. Let's do things that a
cool thing to do, not the actual smart and right

(02:05:11):
things to do. I guess that's a lesson. I don't
follow it. That's the Dougotli Show. Fox Sports Radio

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