LeBron James Is Like Amazon

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to last night in NBA hoops, says Lebron James did
something which has never been done, been done before. Here's
the barn after the game. I've always prided myself on
being a triple threat player. I'm not a score um,
but I can put the ball in the hole. I
rebound the ball to help my team. It's offensively and defensively,
and I love to get my guys involved. I don't

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like to be compared to anybody. I feel like I'm
a one of a time player. I'm a player of
those that this league has never seen before and I
take a lot of pride in that, and I want
to continue that, you know, in a in a near future.
All right, I'm good with that. Look. I actually think
Lebron in that sentence knows exactly who he is. Um
that he's not a score but he scored a lot

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of points. He's not the greatest passer in the world,
but he's accumulated eight thousand assists. He's not the best
rebound the world, but he's got eight thousand rebounds, first
player in league history, thirty thousand points, eight thousand rebounds,
eight thousand assists. He is a jack of all trades.
But you know what they say about jack of all trades, right,

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master of none. And so I'm not gonna sit here
and diminishing anyway in any way, Um, what Lebron James
accomplish last night, or what he's accomplished through his through
his trade, through his um, through his career. But I

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do think that we need to contextualize it. Amazon runs
an incredible business. I don't know if you're an Amazon
guy or if you but I mean it's really crazy
what you can do with Amazon. You can order your food,
you can order food delivered your house from Amazon. You
can watch shows on Amazon, you can go shopping, you

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can They're even making their own shows. Now. Is there
any one thing though that Amazon is better at, better
at at at doing than anyone else? Right, Like, Amazon's awesome.
But if you want Zappos, you want shoes, you go
to Zappos or right now, Nike. Now is they direct

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to the consumer. You don't even have to go to
foot Lock or foot Action or whatever, or nord sdrums
or whatever. You get shoes, you can just go to
Nike dot com. If you want want deals, like you
don't have to go to a third party. These companies
are getting smart, Like we'll just sell it ourselves. We'll
just ship it ourselves. We might not have the infrastructure,
maybe we'll use on the back of how Zappos doesn't,

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on the back of you know, Amazon doesn't, we'll link
up with ups with FedEx, etcetera. Amazon makes good shows?
Do they make the best shows? Not? Really? Like I
watched a show on Amazon called The Americans. The Americans
is on f X, Like again that is produced, created

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put on FFX and then they buy the rights to
to to to put it out there digitally. Even their
own shows. While some of them are good. Let's not
act like they're the greatest shows on earth. Netflix has
some better shows. That's what Lebron's is. He's Amazon. We
have never seen a company like Amazon before where you

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can go in, go online, press the couple buttons, and
get anything you essentially want shipped right to your house.
And yeah, by the way, if you've got Amazon Prime,
you can watch movies, shows, whatever you want. We've never
had that. But let's not act like it's the absolute
best at any one thing. And that's Lebron. And so
if you want to sit there and go because we've

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never seen this sort of statistical dominance across the board,
it makes him the greatest ever. I would just say
this is it's like my Tom Brady argument. I think
Tom Brady is the most accomplished quarterback in the NFL
in the history of the NFL. Nobody's been too played
in one more Super Bowls, But that doesn't make him

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the best quarterback of all time. Aaron Rodgers is the
best I've ever seen play the position. By the way,
some news out of Green Bay as they continue to
pursue a long term extension, we'll talk about all the
ramifications of that extension a little bit later on the show.
But I think what happens is we take the best
stats and me and take it to mean, well, that

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must mean he's the best player, and I don't. I
don't think that's the case. We've never seen anyone throw
a football as far and run as fast as Mike Vick.
That didn't make him the best quarterback. Even even with
an undefeated record. Floyd Mayweather has made more money and

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has never lost about and he's won a title in
multiple weight classes. But he asked boxing people like he's
not close to the greatest fighter ever, go back and look.
Part of it is he's super smart, and that he
won't fight a fight recently that he has any chance
of losing. Right. He didn't fight fight Pakia until three

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years after Pacio started to decline his prime. His last
fight was against a wrestler who had never fought before
ever in a ring. Professionally, he's super smart, But part
of what makes guys the best is that they've fought
the best, regardless of weight division, and that can't be
said for Flay Mayweather. So look, thirty thousand, eight thousand

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and eight thousand, we've never seen him before. He's right,
he's right that he's not a score, yet he scores.
He's right that he's not a point guard, yet he passes.
He's right that he's not a rebounder, yet he rebounds.
He's right. We haven't seen it before. We haven't seen
Amazon before. And that doesn't make it the greatest ever.

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It just makes it an incredible company, one that has
had a remarkable impact on the entire retail industry, just
like Walmart had previous to that, and Walmart kind of
trying to catch up otherwise. Uh Alistair says that Doug,

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I get that Amazon is a jack of all trades analogy,
but Amazon is the best in cloud computing a WS
is the as a world leader and a twenty billion
dollar US business for them. Love the show, right, I mean,

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are we really? Are we really going cloud computing? Like listen,
you may be right. I do know there are other
clouds out there. I thought the the Apple cloud was
supposed to be the safest of the clouds. Well, cloud
do you use music? I use Apple? Yeah? Yeah, And look,
I'll just be honest with you. I don't know anything
about cloud services. I don't I don't actually even know

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how to get the most out of my Apple computers.
Like I grew up like most people using Windows, and
of course now everything's Apple because I use the Apple Cloud.
I have an Apple phone, so I got an Apple
computer and I got an iPad. Some of my kids ramas,
what about you? Are you an Apple cloud guy? Or
do you have another cloud? I go into a Google cloud. There.
I appreciate that your cloud is Googled. My cloud is Apple,

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and Alistair says that Amazon is the best cloud. I
had no idea. Is there a specific reason why you
chose Google? I like, yeah, I like the Google stuff,
like Gmail, all that stuff. I try to keep everything
together kind of like you guys with John has an iPhone.
That's why I do. But I just I'd rather use Google.
That's just the wait, how does that work? So it
doesn't link with your phone? Or does link with your phone? Yeah?

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You just it just uploads to the Google drive. That's
all as opposed to the Apple I don't even sign
into the Apple Cloud. Hm. I'm so, I'm I'm pot
committed to Apple. It's like, yeah, I got all my
music and photos whatever, here take my money. What you're
gonna increase it? What am I gonna do what am
I gonna do. Rob Gronkowski will reportedly return for another season,

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but that's after seriously considering retirement. I'll tell you why
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(10:35):
after the Super Bowl like there are certain remarks you're
supposed to make. It's like what movies it from guys?
Where uh she the lady? The woman says I've had better,
I've had better? Like is it when Harry met Sally?

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I think it was when Harry met Sally? I That
should not be yes, yes, yes, and I've had better.
I've had better? Yeah, I've had better. Should not be
should not ever be the response afterwards. Even if you
have had better, you don't That should not be your response.
There's just an appropriate time for normal responses. Even there

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it's a response of iron, of honesty, and so um,
you know, it's like the first time. Do you remember
the first time Ramas you wrote a roller coaster? Like
a real did you have any fear? Healthy fear of
roller coasters? My first roller coaster was Montetuba was Revenge Farm,

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not that roll long ago. It was like just open
a week earlier, I think. Okay, so Monet was Revenge Music.
Do you know that? Do you know the roller coaster? Yeah? Definitely, Okay,
So for people who don't not, it's very farm is
like you'd call it the other the other Orange County
theme park everybody knows Dizzeyland. Now there's also what's what's

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the other one? California Adventures is like the other theme
park within Disneyland. You know, you can get the two,
but those are but California Ventures only probably twenty years old.
Disney Disneyland obviously goes back to the fifties, and Knotsbury
Farm goes back I think to the sixties and early seventies. Anyway,
it's probably fifteen minutes away, um in a town called
Garden Grove and when you walk into the park, the

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first thing you see is Montezuma's Revenge. Montasuma's Revenge. I
think it looks a little scarier than it is. It's
just one of those like fired out of a cannon.
You go and you do a loop and then it
goes up and then it stops, and then it goes
backwards and it does a loop and it goes all
the way past the platform into the back and then
back forward. Like that's it. That's the roller coaster. It's

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not some long loop de looping, crazy scary. But when
you're a kid, and for me, I had a healthy
fear of roller coasters, just did. And I remember when
I was probably I don't know, nine or ten years old,
I went to Knotsbury Farm and my brother Amy, but
he's like, you're gonna ride this with me because you're
and he used the word that we used to describe

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a cat, only it wasn't to use the word describe
a cat when you're a little brother, that's your big
brother calls you when you're we might use the word soft.
Now everybody knows i'ming, So of course I get onto
the roller coaster and I'm freaking out, so I closed
my eyes and it's one of those things where it
was over before you even knew it. Whenever you're there's

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there's an appropriate response there to which I can tell
what you're thinking. Like if you were to say, like
it was great, like that wasn't great. If you say,
I want to do it again, right, that that's the
normal response you get done to have it doing a
roller coaster, and the only thing, especially a short one,
the only thing that should be going through your mind is, man,
I want to do that again. That was fun. It's fun.

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I bring that up because after the Super Bowl, Rob
Gronkowski was asked about returning next season, and he was noncommittal.
And my thought has always been any time I understand
when the season's over, you're exhausted. When a season's over,
you want to go pick your friends again. And baseball

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players talk about this. Major League Baseball talk about players
talk about this all the time. I think now they
get twenty days off, but a couple years ago they
only got sixteen days off the entire season, and so
at the end of a baseball season, baseball players in
the Major League Baseball will tell each other, I can't
wait to pick my friends again, because you're stuck in
a locker room full of guys, And if you're around
the same guys for nine months, eventually you're gonna dislike

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several of them. You just are. But when you get
done playing in the playoffs in Major League Baseball, win
or lose. Usually, if you were to ask somebody, hey,
what if we could run that back, you'd want to
do it, especially if you're lost, and you're lost in
a heart gut wrenching fashion. The same is true for basketball.

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You get one and all you can think about is
all of the different errors you made and things that
could have gone your way, things you could have done better. Hey,
do you want to run that one back? Yes? Absolutely.
Gronk was asked after the season, right after the Super Bowl, uh,
if he returned next year, which, by the way, he
felt like a set up question because somebody knew something
that he had yet yet to let out of the bag,

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and he was noncommittal. My thought has always been, your
Rob Gronkowski, you didn't play last year when you won
the Super Bowl. You played this year. The team only
started to turn around offensively in the Super Bowl when
you got the football. You guys came always so close
to winning yet another Super Bowl. When I ask you now,
immediately after you walk off the roller coaster of the season,

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do you want to come back to the appropriate response
but yes, and then when you have time to think,
you're like, well, you know, it's a lot of my body.
Here's Ian Rappaport from the NFL Network earlier today on
the latest on Rob Gronkowski. What I am told though,
is he took several weeks off to kind of let
loose and put football in the back of his mind
and really kind of set himself free after football. Uh,

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he did ponder retirement. He did discuss potentially moving to
another venue w W E for once, maybe Hollywood. But
the belief now is those things will come after his
football career. The belief now, Mike, is that Gronkowski will
continue his football career with the Patriots. And know it
was a difficult year physically for him, and certainly he's

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been through a lot. But right now, I have not
talked to one person who believes Rob Gronkowski will retire.
The expectations he's back in the Patriots uniform in two
thousand and eighteen. By the way, several of you have
have tweeted at me. I've had betters from liar liar, right, liar, liar,
my bad. Remember what he's Jim Carey plays a lawyer

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and he cannot tell a lie. And uh, who is
he with? I'm trying to think of a woman. The woman,
the woman's actual name he's with anyway, And she says,
how was it for you? And he says, I've had better,
I've had better, and then she throws him out of
the bed right when Rob Gronkowski's immediate reaction wasn't let's

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run that back, man. I want to get back out there.
I can't wait to get back and play another season.
You knew this was real. Tom Kerrent writes for Comcast
Sports Net New England. Uh, he's also on TV for
CSN New England. He said this quote. He didn't enjoy himself.
He being Gronk, did enjoy himself in two thousands seventeen,

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despite the fact his body was in a better situation
than had been a long time, despite the fact that
he's one of the most dominant and any skilled position.
The atmosphere in New England is starting to wear on
him physically and mentally. He seriously considered stepping away from
the game in training camp. He had kind of had
it at that point. His body wasn't responding. He wanted
to train a certain way. The team necessarily didn't necessarily

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want him to train that way. They were at longer heads.
He was pissed. So, look, I I get that. All
of this is. You know, I want to do things
my way. I want to grow. I'm a grown man.
I want to work with Brady's guy. I want to
get my body the way I want to get it.
You want to do it your way. Um, I'm kind

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of tired of falling in line with the Patriots all
of that. It's worth it if you win, and when
you don't, you start to knitpick it and you start
to say, why can't I do it my way? Look,
the truth be told. As much as we want to
act like the New England Patriots, all they do is

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quell people's personalities. Rob Gronkowski has his own TV show,
Crash Leads. He's on all over the place. He's been
able to get out from behind the mask and get
out from behind the shield most every offseason. If he
wanted to be the next Bachelor, he could be he

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can do a lot of things his person now that
he has been able to break through. So as much
as he might say, hey, New England, they don't let
me be me, that's actually not the case. And oh yeah,
by the way, one of the things that New England
allows to do is compete for Super Bowls, which is
where you step build your brand even more. I think

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this is kind of classic Rob Gronkowski, like anybody kind
of feeling their oats. I wanted to do things their
way there now of that running in running up against
what the Patriots have, which the Patriots, you know, they
trade away guys like Jimmy Garoppolo, gone for it for
in the short term, and it hasn't always gone smoothly.

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But the biggest and most disturbing part of this entire
thing to me was when Grant came off the field
after the Super Bowl losing a heart wrenching, hard fought
close game, one in which you know, look, if not
for the fact that uh, they never call pass interference,
he was interfered with the last hail. Mary could have

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caught that ball to within the Super Bowl. I mean,
it wasn't that close, but it was close. They had
the ball down five, and then they of course had
chuck the hail Mary down eight. These are both opportunities.
They had the lead in the fourth quarter, coming from behind,
and it comes from that close a game to being
noncommittal about returning. That's akin to Jim Carey saying I

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saw Calvin Johnson retire I think right as he began
the process of his decline. There are skill position players.
They're gonna make enough money to which they'll be able
to walk away, and walk away a year too early
as opposed to a year late. That's what this what
what the huge money for NFL guys. Now it's not

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baseball money, it's not NBA money, but the big money
that these guys are getting. That's why it's important. Let's
get to Dan buy Er, find out what else is
going on. Damn what you guys? Well, well, Rob Gronkowski
looks like we'll be returning to his team next season.
There are a lot of players in the NFL that aren't,
including Mohammed Wilkerson, the former All Pro defensive lineman released

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by the New York Jets today set to make twenty
million dollars in teen That won't happen. If it is,
it's gonna have to happen with a new team, Jets
freeing up about eleven million dollars in salary caps face
with that move. The Carolina Panthers today released their all
time leading rusher Jonathan Stewart, now heading to free agency,
while running back Matt Forte retired after ten years in
the NFL. Spent the first dight with the Bearers. In

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the final two coming with the New York Jets and
varias GM Ryan Paces the team's planning. The team plans
on releasing quarterback Mike Glenn and Steelers general manager Kevin
Colbert says linebacker Ryan Shay's here won't play football. In
a report from ESPN says Morocco maybe the favorite to
land the World Cup over a joint bid by the
United States, Mexico, and Canada. The report says Morocco may

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have an edge in votes talent from Africa, South America
and Asia. To host the event and find the NBA
commission around him, Silver has warned all thirty teams about
tanking in a memo, claiming harsh punishments would be handed
down if there was any evidence dug of tanking from
a coach or a player. You mean, like like an
owner on a podcast saying we should lose. Yeah, I

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thought that was interesting. I don't know how a player tanks.
I don't know why a player would tank. I know,
like how you could like missing shots, but why would
it be in that player's best interest to play poorly?
You know what I mean? Like I can understand maybe
a coach with his lineup, or a GM with the moves,
or the owners saying, but I just don't know how
a player would tank because you wouldn't be your job.

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I mean, Cheeze turn the ball over eight times? We
don't want him back next year? Yeah? No, no, I
mean I think you just play your young guys. But
I mean, look, there is a The Orlando Magic have
lost six in a row. The Bulls have lost five
in a row. The Hawks have lost four in a row.
The Sons have lost tenor row. The Grizzlies have lost
tennor row. The Kings have lost five in row. If
there are only proof that these teams were trying to lose,

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if I could only prove it, you know, there's something tangible,
something I could point to, just one thing. M I
don't know. Well, I mean, these teams canna keep losing games,
but that's not tangible. Oh yeah, you gotta get the

(23:47):
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and half the calories, you can eat twice as many.
Who does I mean, do we really need Do you
need proof? Tanking? Is? Tanking in the NBA is a
lot like the definition of pornography, you know when you

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see it. I mean, these teams are bad. They're just bad.
Watch what happens at the end. I mean, the Atlanta
Hawks lost by nineteen points. Now, I'm not gonna say
those guys went out and tried to lose. But when
you watch in the fourth quarter and they're throwing Tyler
Dorsey out there, who's one of eleven, maybe that's a

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sign that they're not exactly invested in winning. Could be
I don't know if there are only some sort of
proof that I could point to. M hm, yes, music,

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Is this all to blame on Sam Hinky and the
seventies Sixers because they were the first one to sort
of a knowledge that they were going to take this
overall philosophy, Because I'm trying to think about it's happened before.
I mean, maybe maybe the whole trust in the process thing,
but if you really, um, if if you really kind

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of get down to it, you remember or maybe you
don't remember. Rick Patino's team tanked because they were trying
to get Tim Duncan in the draft. They had two
lottery picks. They didn't get him. It's drafted Walter McCarty
and Chauncey Billips instead. But they tanked. We've seen this,
We've seen teams, but the tanking has become an issue. Yeah,
I'd say the seventies Sixers. Uh, the Milwaukee Bucks tanked

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one year. The Houston Astros tanked in baseball, so we've
we have seen this before, but that the it would
be safe to say that the Sixers prominently did it
and said they were trusting the process. And is that
because they were the team that sort of developed a
multi year type plan that it became an issue because
that you talked about because they were so non competitive

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and they were they weren't even competitive. It didn't even
appear like they were trying to win games. And it's
the issue that the NBA faces because there are teams
that are so overtly trying to be bad, and then
at the very top of the league you have the
complete opposite, where the Warriors and even I guess if
you want to say the Cavaliers are on that same level,

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are so dominant that there's no real in between hope
for almost twenty of the other teams in the league. Yeah,
I don't think that's actually the case. I think the
cases that it's been proven being in the middle doesn't
really help you. You know that you you need to
be on the way up or at the top, or

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shed everything so you can be on the way up again.
So it makes sense, and I don't I don't actually
think that they are um that that there's that much disparity.
I just think that what happens is you get into
a close game and in the fourth quarter you play
young players saying you want to get them experience in
big games. And really, what you're trying to do is

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lose the game, and you do it over and over
and over and over again, and losing becomes a habit,
no hard habit to break. Hey, Ad Gottlieb show, Maybe
you hit the mute button when you yawn every day?
Did I yawn? I just developed a new coffee drink.
I feel good if actually yawned, you did? I did? Right?

(27:28):
My bead is yawning over the radio contagious, like do
you guys didn't yawn when I yawned? Did you? I
did not? I yawned before you yawned. You did? So?
I cut I was you caught my own through the microphone,
probably three tho miles away. I got your. I got
John ramos Is yawned. Huh huh. All right, that's fascinating,

(27:56):
Travis says, bro. You gotta get on FS one and
talk about the n C. Everyone is disagreeing with you,
Nick wrong, especially, that's Nick right. I will be on
First Things First tomorrow. I have no problem disagreeing with him. Um,
I think it's always I think this. If you didn't
if you missed our my Cris Brussard discussion yesterday. You
can download the Doug Gotlip Show podcast ramos how would

(28:18):
you how would you score the rounds? Brussard and Gotlib. Oh,
that was a good one. I'm gonna give you uh
an edge on that on that discussion. Most definitely like
Chris too, but he he tended to kind of, um,
wait for your knowledge before he responded to a lot
of stuff. So, Okay, I look, I'm just saying, now,

(28:39):
did you come in on my side of the debate
to begin with? And so there was some confirmation bias
or no. I think I'm in the middle. I think
it was a good debate to kind of feel like
one side and and the other side. I don't really
I can't really say I have a filling on on
one side of the other right now. But there was
definitely a very very good and heated discussion. Chris Brute said, yes,

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I did, in fact yawn I apologize and and I
was I don't know why yawning is a is it?
I didn't know yawning was against the rules. Like one
of the things we've always tried to do, no matter
where I've done this show or who I've done it with,
is I don't try. I try and be organic. Some
radio shows their content is written, not this one. Some

(29:25):
guys want to have this incredible economy of words and
not speak as they're they're speaking in real life. We
don't try and do that. Rick Bucker does that. Rick
Buker has his own radio show on Bleach Report. He
joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show, is yawning over
the radio contagious. Uh, yawning is contagious wherever. It doesn't

(29:51):
have to be just on the radio. Okay, I don't know,
because I yawned, and everybody else didn't, you know, everybody
else in America didn't yawn, especially listening, So maybe it's not.
I'm not sure. Rick has a new podcast. It's called
it's called The Swirl with co host Ryan Hollins. That's
because Rick is white and Ryan Hollins is black. Correct,

(30:11):
Oh got it? We used we used to, Uh, Miles
Simon and I we used to. We had a buddy
named Jasmine Johnson growing up, and we all played in
the same au team. Jasmine Johnson was Fingerprints on Charcoal dark.
I was you know, like a like a like a
corpse white. And Miles, of course is mixed race. So
we used to we used to say we'd have a

(30:32):
rap group called Chaco Vanilla Swirl. So I get it.
I like it, I get it. I like it, like
it a lot, Lebron says. Lebron's thirty eight rebounds eight
assists does this do anything to change how we view
him all the time? No, I mean the numbers aside
for me, you know where he's taken teams and how

(30:55):
he's brought various teams together. I mean what's interesting to
me is how much the game has changed, and when
I look at Lebron James, how often he is the
biggest guy on the floor. Um, I'm glad that. I'm
trying to think who it was the other day who
acknowledged that he's two eighty pounds. If you look, he's
list He's still listed it too. He's been to eighty

(31:17):
since the first time he was in Cleveland. Um, and
for whatever reason, the true size, strength, weight of Lebron
Jays has never been recognized. But a guy who is
that big, who is that fast, who has the ball
in his hands, you can bet he's gonna put up
some phenomenal numbers, particularly in today's straight line game. Where

(31:39):
you get a rebound, you're taking it down and you're
probably either getting a shot or you're getting a dime
straight off of that off of that break. That's a
couple of numbers in a couple of categories right off
the bat. So no, it doesn't. This doesn't change anything,
and it if it changes anything, it's my view of
triple doubles, which is continues to slide in terms of
its significance. Now, now there's a talking point that I

(32:02):
think so many people missed is that there are more
possessions and those possessions are dominated by by more guys.
And because of it, um excused and and frankly you
also pointed out, which is we've taken power forwards. There
are no more power forwards in college, in in the NBA,
like true power forwards are basically gone the way of

(32:24):
the Dodo, even back to the basket centers are gone.
Julie ocal For is twenty years ago. Julio ocal For
is a great player. Now he can't find a team.
Uh so go ahead, Yeah, Well, I was just having
this conversation with Nick Collinson Oklahoma City, who's uh, this
is probably gonna be his last run, And I mean,
what a nice guy and one of those guys that's

(32:46):
just a a worker at the four, does all the
dirty work, does all the little stuff, and he goes,
you know, there's really not a place for a guy
like me in the league now. Uh, And he's right,
you know that the the if you're to play four,
you better to be able to shoot the three. You
better just be basically a small forward. And so it's

(33:08):
to your point, Yeah, that's exactly it. The game has
changed so dramatically, and it's really ideally built for a
guy like Lebron James. And not to take anything away
from him, but when you bring numbers to me, I'm
gonna I'm not gonna say, oh wow, I'm gonna say.
Of course. Rick Bucker, joining us from Bleacher Report, has

(33:30):
his own show on Sirius x M as well. He
joins us here on the Doug Gottlip Show Fox Sports Radio.
Everybody freaked out when they made some moves, and they
played well before after the trade deadline, now they've kind
of come a little bit back down to earth. They
gave up over add to the Brooklyn Nets after losing
the first two games out of the break. What's the

(33:51):
reality of where this calvs. Team will be in the
playoffs in comparison to the rest of the Eastern Conference,
let alone the West. Well, you know, it's interesting because
I've thought that they would be a better regular season team.
I still had my questions about what they would be
in the postseason. Uh, Washington may have undercut that because
they came out right after the break and they basically said,

(34:13):
we're gonna dare Lebron James to take the game over.
We think you're the only playmaker. We're not going to
double you. We're gonna see if you will score sixty
seventy points to win a game, and will you continue
to go to bucket and will you make free throws.
We're comfortable that defensively, you guys aren't as good as

(34:33):
well as as you think we are. We're gonna play
small ball here. We're we're we're comfortable playing that way
and down the stretch. I mean, Lebron had like eight
layups in the fourth quarter. They never doubled him once.
They just thought at some point, you know, we're gonna
live this way. We can knock down threes. The perimeter
defense isn't that good. Uh, we can live with us

(34:54):
and at some point Lebron is going to get uncomfortable
constantly shooting the ball every time down the or he's
gonna look to get somebody else involved. And this is
what maybe he shouldn't have surprised me, but it did,
which is there isn't anybody else who can create a
play like I thought Rodney Hood could do a little
bit of that. I thought George Hill might be able

(35:16):
to do a little bit of that. You look at
the pieces that they have, I love I mean, it's
it's brilliant on Washington's part, and I think that this
is where the the they're younger. But I didn't like
them as a postseason team because you don't have anybody
who stepped up in the postseason to make a play.

(35:37):
Even with Derrick Rose, Dayne Wade, whatever you think of them, now,
they've been there, they've done it. They've done it in
the postseason, and especially especially d Wade. D Wade has
elevated even even later stages of his career. He's had
times which he's elevated for one game or one night,
and Derrick Rose one game one night, and they just
don't have they don't have those those guys. Um Adam's

(36:00):
silver said there will be severe punishment if he finds
out somebody's tanking, if there's any proof of tanking. Alright,
So the Sons of Lost tenor row, the Grizzlies of
Lost tenor row. The Kings are eighteen and forty three.
They've lost five in a row. Um the Magic have

(36:22):
lost six in a row. The Hawks of a non
competitive lost four row. Like, I guess he needs somebody
to take a loudspeaker, to take to the loud speaker
and say we're officially tanking for proof, is how he needs.
That's a good one, Doug. That is a really that's
really a good one. That tickles me. Look, this is
the one thing I will say that I appreciate. And

(36:42):
obviously you play, you play young, you play like. I
love the way the Bulls are doing it. Let's be honest,
I love the way the Bulls are doing it. First
of all, they've been out front. We're gonna play our
young guys, Robin Lopez justin holiday. We're only gonna play
them tensive team minutes all night. We're gonna see what
we have. They're still playing Zach Levine and Chris Donn
and they're seeing Larry Market, they're seeing what they're young

(37:04):
guys can do. They're competing to the end. I think
they're getting meaningful experience from these guys. I don't you know.
Philly fans absolutely hate me for saying this, but I
think the years in which you were losing by you
weren't even in games that there was something lost there
and something introduced to your team that is difficult to

(37:27):
get out. You can be competitive and still lose. You
can develop your young players and play meaningful minutes, or
have them play meaningful minutes and meaningful games and still
wind up with a bad record. This is what I appreciate,
appreciate about where the league is is that somebody made
a big deal about this is the first time we
had seven teams that had fewer than twenty wins going

(37:50):
into the All Star break, and I was like, yeah,
but you have, like six of those teams have at
least eighteen wins. I like that the autumn has come up.
What was disgusting is when you'd have teams that we're
vying for breaking the nine and seventy three all time
record by the Philadelphia seventy six is back in the
day that to me was gross. This at least, you know,

(38:15):
for the most part, I watch a Bulls game, they're
at least competitive, they're at least trying. They've handicapped themselves,
but at least there you've got young guys out there
that are playing hard and trying to play entertaining basketball. Look,
I'll be interested to see once the rule changes next
year how much of an influence it has on the
draft lottery percentages. But with the way the league is set,

(38:39):
I don't blame team. I mean the the analytics say
you get a certain topic. I hate teams that just
bury themselves. But if you want to take yourself down
and play young for a year and see if you
can get a top three pick, what is so awful
about what's wrong about that? As long as you're trying
to go out and compete and you're not just saying
we're gonna put a G League team out there and lose, well,

(39:02):
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(40:15):
all right, it's more or less. Let's get to it.
Matt Forte retired today with nine thousand, seven hundred and
ninety six career rushing yards. What we want to know, Doug,
do the players that a name have? Does Matt Forte
have more or less career rushing yards than they do? Okay?
Clinton portis former Brocco and running back. Matt Forte has

(40:36):
more or less than Clinton less? That is correct, he
does have less. Does Matt Forte have more yards or
less yards than Chris Johnson? He has less? Matt Forte
has less than Chris Johnson. Actually, Matt Forte has more, Yes,
just by about a hundred and fifty or so. What

(40:58):
about herschel Walker? Does Matt fort have more or less
than herschel Walker. I'm gonna say more than herschel Walker.
He does, has got him by about fifteen hundred yards. Oh,
here's a good one. Another Heisman Trophy winner, Ricky Williams.
Matt fote he has less than Rookie Williams. Yes, he does.

(41:19):
Ricky Williams actually crossed the ten thousand yard marks. So
three for four right now, Doug Matt Forte has more
or less yards than Jamal Charles less, he has more
Jamal Charles. And the final one a guy who was
also released today or Forte retired, but Jonathan Stewart released

(41:40):
as Matt Forte have more or less yards than Jonathan Stewart.
He has more. He does by a long shot yards more.
By the way. Matt fott third all time in NFL rushing.
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, comming to you from
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(42:26):
I heart Radio Headquarters, dune on, Dune done or doundune.
Everything is interrelated, interwoven. It just is one thing begets another.
Salaries create a scale. And I found this conversation to
be an interesting one, so let's have it. Aaron Rodgers

(42:48):
and Kirk Cousins are related. No, they're not cousins. Kirk
is not cousins with any other quarterback in the NFL.
They're related in that Aaron Rodgers, who's widely considered the
best quarterback in football. And I understand how that sometimes
sits oddly with people. With Tom Brady going to get
another Super Bowl. I didn't say he wasn't a he was. Uh,

(43:13):
he was as accomplished as he's more accomplished, or he's
had a better career. But who plays the position better
than Aaron Rodgers. It's almost like the Jim Harbaugh the
Hardball Brothers saying who's got it better than us? No
body who plays quarterback better than Aaron Rodgers? Ramos, who

(43:36):
do I think plays better than Aaron? You're supposed to say, no,
no body? There you go? There you go? Okay, thank you,
Ryan Music. You understood what I was looking for, didn't you?
I did. But in fairness to John, I was just
asking him another question about something related later on in
the show, So he wasn't. He was engaged into the

(43:58):
words that were coming out of your mouth at the time.
But that that that that can be. You know what, Ramos,
I grant you a party behind the scenes. You know
you will not be put in the penalty box for
that one. There's a relationship between the two. Packers president
Mark Murphy told ESPN earlier today yesterday, right, yesterday was

(44:21):
Tuesday that general manager Brian Good Kunst. Right, and now
you said, man, can't you just get Brian Smith to
be your general manager? Why does it have to be Dan?
How do you say his last name good? Because then tight? No,
it's good a Kunst not because then tight? Can't you

(44:41):
have to change your name for your name is Brian Good? Kunst.
I'm sorry. I'm sure Mr. And Mrs Gooda Kunst are
incredibly pleased that their son has climbed the ladder to
be general manager of the famed Green Bay Packers. But
you know what, for now, we're gonna call him Brian Guttenberg.
He's related as to Ve Guttenberg from the Police Academy fame.

(45:05):
You know you grew up in the nineties, if you know, um,
if you know the police academy was the police Academy
for citizens on patrol? Was that? Which one was? I
can't remember. Anyway, The Packers and their general manager and
executive vice president Football Operations russ Ball there we go
better name are involved in contract discussions with Rogers agents.

(45:29):
Quote we've had discussions with his representative. I have a
lot of confidence Brian rust Aaron as well will create
a win win. Timing is everything, though, right, and then
timing is in fact everything because the way it works
in the NFL, generally for these top dollar quarterbacks, whoever

(45:52):
gets paid last gets paid most. So this is kind
of a game of chicken. If you're Aaron Rodgers, you
want to get it done. If you're the Packers, you
want to get it done, because the quicker you get
it done, the quicker you get cost certainty, and you
know how much you have to manipulate the cap with. Now,
if you're Kirk Cousins, you want to wait because once

(46:14):
the bar is set and Aaron Rodgers becomes the highest
paid quarterback in the league, surpassing Jimmy Garoppolo, you want
to you know where the bar is. But you can't
wait too long. These teams have to know. So in recruiting,
I've told people oftentimes people ask, well, why did you

(46:35):
pick Notre Dame in a high school? Well, the schools
I was looking at, Florida, Michigan State, Yukon, U c
l A. Everybody started to pick a school. And there
is a player named Jeff Billett who end up going
to Rutgers and Jeff, you went to Christian Brothers Academy
which is in New Jersey, and he wanted to go

(46:55):
to Notre Dame. And so Notre Dame is like, look,
you visit George call ship. You've got three weeks. Then
Jeff Billett visits. Once he visits, it's whoever takes the
scholarship first, and if he's on campus, on his visit.
He takes precedence over you, even though you're technically our
first choice. That's how they lay it out to you.

(47:16):
Did you, guys see this quote from John Elway? About
an hour ago? John Elway was asked about his swings
and misses for quarterbacks, and he said he's going to
continue to swing and miss if that's what it takes.
If it's about winning, there's Minnesota and there's Denver. But

(47:36):
there is a breaking point in which it's about money
as much or more than it's about winning. And that's
why you have the Jets in there. That's why you
have other opportunity. Maybe the air isn't the Cardinals in there?
And so does Aaron Rodgers sign quickly or does he
wait and wait for Kirk Cousins to get his deal
and then make sure that he gets the biggest deal

(47:57):
in the history of the league, the biggest deal for
any quarterback. What's the what? What's the win? The win
for him is a couple of dollars more the losses
that with every passing day that creates uncertainty for this
year's cap, how much money you'll be guaranteed, how much
money can be spent on other pieces, and we should

(48:18):
also be honest. In addition to health, the only thing
that's gonna hold Aaron Rodgers back from getting to and
winning another Super Bowl is the supporting talent. And you
don't get that supporting talent unless you get cost certainty,
lower the cap cap value of a contract, and you
spread spread that money around. So you're you're looking for

(48:46):
the first sign you're trying to This is a staring contest.
I don't like staring contests. Just be fully honest with you, guys.
I prefer thumb wars the staring contest. A matter of fact,
I prefer thumb wars to arm wrestling, although I'm not
sure I know anybody. No many arm wrestles anymore? Do

(49:07):
kids still do thumb wrestling staring contest? I feel like
are more normal almost. Yes, I agree staring contest a
little bit more now than thumb thumb wars. Okay, this
is an honest question for you, John Ramos. So, my
wife and I we had this argument, and I think
I've wanted but you know, maybe it's just because have

(49:30):
you ever lost an argument? Let's start there. Yeah, okay, okay,
fair enough, love to my wife. I've lost plenty of arguments. So, um,
here's the argument, thumb war. Do you do one, two,
three four, I declare thumb war, or do you do

(49:51):
one to three four I declare pinuckle. It's the first
one for me, Ryan music, the first one. I've never
even heard of a peknuckle. Me neither. And yet she she,
I mean this was This is an argument that lasted months.
And honey, sweetie Darling, love of my life doesn't rhyme.

(50:13):
That makes sense, that makes sense. What the hell is
peinuckle is a is a card game? That that is
an that is an oky is m to which she's
from Oklahoma, to which somebody along the lines and her
family screwed up and didn't know what it was called.
Or somebody in her elementary school conflated pinuckle and and
thumb war, and um peanut butter and peinuckle and thumbwar,

(50:42):
and all of a sudden, thumb war became pinnockle, which
is not what peinuckle is. Peinuckle is a card game.
It's pretty good at thumbwar, pretty good at thumbwar. Um,
there are a lot of people who are point out, Hey,
Aaron Rodgers getting paid a ton of money it's gonna
hurt a against the cap. My guess would be that

(51:02):
what they're going to try and do is overcompensating with
signing bones, like the all these guys do. Overcompensating with
signing bonuses. Guaranteed money will probably last the three years
or so and lower the cap number, and then in
the fourth year there's gonna be a big cap number
of the fifth year or big cap hit. But until

(51:23):
when it comes to that point, then they'll renegotiate the
deal yet again. I would guess that Aaron Rodgers wants
to get it out of the way, But I also
think there's a certain ego in this thing. He doesn't
want to get underpaid. He wants the Cousins thing to
be done so he can get one dollar more. Is
it a flawed philosophy. Of course it is, and Aaron

(51:45):
Rodgers has is as a right to ask for whatever
he wants. I want the most money, but he doesn't
need the most money. And what he needs for I
think his legacy is a supporting cast. If I was
advising Aaron Rodgers, I would say, look, man, just I
don'order like ten million dollars guaranteed for each of the

(52:08):
next four years, you live in Green Bay in the
regular season, Los Angeles in the off season, like forty
million dollars guaranteed, and then some sort of some sort
of big balloon payment at the end to which you
could guarantee. Wouldn't that be a better way to do it?
I kind of I get the idea that you can

(52:29):
ask for more money than has ever been given, But
you don't need that much money. I'm not crazy here, right,
Like people are like, will oh, he should get a
hundred million dollars guarantees. Aaron Rodgers has been banged up.
It's been hurt. You know that he's scared to like
anybody has a multiple concussions, and and what it means
because he's a really, really bright guy, Like, yeah, well

(52:50):
that's fine. Aaron Rodgers likely has more money than he'll
ever know how to spend. Every Here's a guy who
had one scholarship off r out of high school, one
scholarship offer out of junior college. Now he's widely considered
the best quarterback in the NFL. He's gonna make upwards
a fifty million dollars guaranteed. Why not just make like

(53:11):
ten a year? Like, I'm not crazy to think that's
huge money, am I? How do we get to this
point to which is like, no, I gotta have more
than the next guy. I know it could hurt my team.
I know I could help my team, help my legacy
take a little bit less, but damn it, let somebody
else take less. I know he won't. I know he won't.

(53:36):
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up coming next live from Indianapolis. I'll ask him about
the chatter in Indie regarding Baker Mayfield. That's upcoming next.
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(55:23):
what's the buzz surrounding Baker Mayfield? Well? I think the
biggest thing is trying to figure out what is what
is he like? Um, we know that his teammates love him,
he's a he's a fiery leader. But I think all
these teams want to know who is he? Who is
he really and he's he's someone that they can hand
the keys to their franchise too and trust that he's

(55:43):
not gonna, you know, do the Kansas game where he's
grabbing his cross and jesting across the field, because you
can be fiery when you're Tom Brady, but when you're
Baker Mayfield, you you can't. You can't come right out
of the gate with that. So how does that how
does that home? Is that as that limit him in
terms of where he'll go in the draft? Well, there's

(56:04):
there's gonna be the you know, maybe more the old
school type scouting guys who don't like someone like Baker Mayfield.
But I see can look at the New York Jets.
I don't know the Woody Johnson and the Jets front
office are going to say this is the type of
guy we want to turn loose in Manhattan. Um, maybe
the same four the Miami Dolphins, if they're in the
market for a quarterback, they might say this, this might

(56:25):
not be a guy we want on South Beach. But
I think that's what they have to figure out, is
is he is the immature and it's just because he
has a chip on her shoulder, or is the immature
because he's going to continue to make bad decisions and
be a guy that you you really can't put in
that that position where he is the face of your franchise.
Lamar Jackson is a guy who there's been a lot

(56:47):
of discussion about where are you on Lamar Jackson. I
like him and I like him as a quarterback. I
think he's right now. I have him in the second round.
But he is probably the most polarizing of the player
evaluations in this year's class because you can definitely talk
to evaluators who will tell you the other kid to
be a Pro Bowl wide receiver. He's six three pounds,

(57:09):
He's probably gonna run in the four threes. It sounds
like a pretty good receiver. And he plays a style
of football at Louisville that doesn't automatically translate to the NFL.
But he also has a very good arm. I think
he's he's shown this past year that he could play
from within the pocket and not turn the ball over.
And I mean, like everyone, he has things that he
has to get better at, but we've we've actually seen

(57:31):
him take that next step to the last two years.
So I mean the camp and says he should have
a chance to play quarterback and prove himself there, and
if that doesn't work out, like a Turell prior, he
can make the move to receiver down the road. There
are moments to which he's wildly inaccurate. That's fair, isn't it, Yeah,
especially outside the hashes. And I think a lot of
that is his footwork related. You know, he throws with

(57:52):
that really fast wrist flip type motion, but he never
moves his feet. He's got this narrow base. He doesn't
generate a lot of power with his service core. If
that's something that has to be fixed. And you could
say the same thing about Josh Allen from Wyoming. He
misses pretty big at times as well. And it's it's
again a footwork issue that they are both hopefully cleaning up.
And hopefully we'll get a chance this week to see

(58:14):
them throw and try to figure out if that's something
that can be fixed. If it has been fixed, and
and then then you gotta kind of bet on Okay,
when you've got von Miller running at you as fast
as he can, are you gonna remember to set your
feet and transition your weight and throw the way that
you've been retaught to do it. Yeah, it's hard because
then you get game slippage. Right once you get into
a game you kind of brought back. You revert back

(58:36):
to your default settings if you will, and both have
default settings which are not that of of NFL quarterbacks
as of Now, what about Josh Allen? The completion presentage
are low. He's a different He's a b cannon for
an armed, big old guy. Who are you on Josh Allen?
As some have him number one on all the boards.
I'm not that high. I think that's a little rich.

(58:57):
But I do believe he'll be a top ten pick,
and I think that's justified. It's a lot like Pat
Mahomes last year in Kansas City took him at ten overall.
So you just have to believe that once you get
that guy into your locker room, you're gonna be able
to fix some of the mechanical issues and and if
you can iron those out with With Josh Allen, you know,
he completed fifty six of his passes. I think even

(59:17):
if you account for drops, it's still probably right around sixty,
which isn't good enough. So you have to figure out, Okay,
can we make the changes to his mechanics to to
get that to sixty and can we make the changes
by you know, giving him much better talent than he
had to random at Wyoming. How much of a difference
is that going to make? But there's not a great
precedent in the NFL for guys getting more accurate. It

(59:39):
usually goes the other way. So I think that's the
one thing that everyone's kind of talking about here this
week is is this guy fixable or are we are
we just getting the window dressing of a Kyle Bowler
type guy who has a great arm and he's a
great kid, he's a great athlete, but he might just
not be accurate enough. You look at the top rushers
in the NFL last year, Sam Hunt was what a

(01:00:00):
third round pick, Todd Gurley obviously a high first round pick,
Levan Belle, Lashawn McCoy, mark Ingram, Jordan Howard, Melvin Gordon, Leonard,
four Nette C. J. Anderson, and Zekey Elliott. So you
have a mixed bag. You have some first round picks
and he has some guys are a little bit of afterthoughts,
say Kwan Barkley, is he is he good enough to
justify being a top five pick? He absolutely is, and

(01:00:24):
he's a rare guy, and I think he's probably a
combination of the four net size. He's twenty thirty three
pounds and but he has better speed and he's shipped
here a little more agile. And if you want to
compare him to Zeke Elliott, that's I think a really
good player comparison. But he also has no issues off
the field. There are no question marks about this kid.
And Zeke was good enough to go for in a

(01:00:46):
really good draft class, and I think that kind of
sets the bar for where we could see Barkley go.
He's gonna be in the conversation at one, He's gonna
be in the conversation at two. The Giants could pair
him with Eli Manning. Dave Gentleman said today they think
Lie has some football left in him, and I think
one way to try to get the best Eli Manning
possible to give him a workhorse running back unlike anything

(01:01:08):
he's ever had. No question. The question becomes, um, can
they open any holes from They got to remake their
entire offensive line, and you don't. Don't you get more
value if you trade that pick, get offensive lineman and
then get again a running back. Later on the draft,
you absolutely do, or you just take notre dames Quinton Nelson.
Uh and taking a guard it two is maybe sounds crazy,

(01:01:32):
but he is that good in terms of value in
this year's class. But if they can find someone to
trade back with, yeah, that that absolutely makes sense. It's
just you have to figure out who it's going to be,
you know, and free agency will do that. If the
Jets miss out on Kirk Cousins, maybe they are willing
to come up from six to two. Or if the
Broncos miss out on Cousins, would they come up from
five to two? But you look at the culture at

(01:01:54):
three and the Browns pick again at four, So you're
kind of in a hard spot to trade out because
I think a lot of people will will believe that
those quarterbacks are gonna fall if if the Giants don't
take one or Donald pick one Donald. It's right now,
especially it's all Donald. People need to figure out if
who Rosen is. You know, It's funny because now it's

(01:02:14):
like you have as many people defending him as you
have people pointing fingers at him, and I think that
speaks to how polarizing he is as a personality. But
it seems got to figure out if this guy, I
know people say it all the time, but does he
love football? And of course he loves it, He's he's
been playing for three years at U C l A.
But does he love it enough that when he's on

(01:02:34):
a bad team, is he gonna is he gonna come
in at five am to get the work done? And
I think that's what you got to figure out, is
is this guy gonna be committed to it? And then
also you know he is brash, and he's intelligent on
the other hand, and he's he speaks his mind and
and sometimes teams don't like that. You know, a guy
wearing a uh and F Trump hat to a Trump

(01:02:55):
golf course is probably not going to be drafted by
the team whose owner the ambassador to the UK right now,
so you can maybe scratch him off the Jets draft board.
But he's he's beautiful from a mechanical standpoint. You just
have to figure out. It's been hurt the last three years,
and you got to figure out if this personality is
gonna work in your locker room. What about Luke Falk
We had trend Dilferan He's like man, I think Luke

(01:03:16):
Fox this deal of the draft? Are you as high?
And Luke Falk, I am. He's so smart. That's that's why.
And you know, athletically it's it's there, but it's what
he brings to the table mentally and as a leader.
He's you see him like, oh he's a Washington State.
He plays from michae Leach. That that doesn't translate. But
everyone I've spoken to who has had a chance to
work with him and interview him, and then I got

(01:03:37):
to hang out with him at the Senior Bowl, he's very,
very bright. So it won't surprise me if you know
he's probably he's not gonna be a first round pick,
probably a second or third, and he could be that
Kirk Cousins type guy out of this class. That's Matt
Miller at NFL Draft Scout. Is the Twitter handle, same
thing into the same one on on Instagram as well.

(01:03:58):
I'm trying to think it's the exact same way. Yeah,
good branding. It's the same thing across all platforms. Uh.
That's Matt Miller. Matt, thanks so much for joining us.
Can't wait to read your work, see your work all
that you're doing it at the Combine and Indie Appreciati buddy,
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with the combined conversation Giants g M. Dave Getleman, you
guys talking about the Giants at say Kwon Barkley as
he mentioned that maybe uh well, Matt Miller mentioned the

(01:04:40):
Giants field that Eli Manning has a few more years
left in him. Not only that, but Dave Guttleman saying
the team is open to trading the second overall pick
in the draft. That was Pat Shermer talking about Eli Manning.
By the way, the Giants new head coach. The Jets
have released defensive lineman Mohammed Wilkerson, former All Pro defensive
i'man do about twenty million dollars next season. Send a
long term deal just a couple of years ago, but

(01:05:01):
that ends today. The Jets freed up about eleven million
dollars in salary cap space with the move another Jets move,
as veteran running back Matt Forte is retiring after ten
years in the NFL. Spent the last two seasons in
New York. First part of his career he spent with
the Bears, where Bears GM Ryan Pace said that the
team plans on a releasing quarterback Mike Lennon. The Panthers
today released their all time leading rusher and running back

(01:05:23):
Jonathan Stewart. Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says linebacker Ryan shays
Yer won't play football in the NFL. Network says that
Patriots sended Rob Gronkowski is expected to play in the
season and not retire. A couple of other notes to
pass along Doug PSG star name are gonna have surgery
and is injured foot. NBA Commission I'm Silver warning all
thirty teams about tanking, saying that harsh punishments would be

(01:05:47):
handed down if there's evidence of it from a coacher player.
And the Big Ten Tournament gets underway, Illinois and Iowa
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(01:06:12):
this from Adam Silver. This is what Dan was talking about, guys,
and this is a parenting memo. That's what it is.
Adam Silver has a memo for NBA teams. Quote. We've
been careful to distinguish between efforts efforts teams may take
to rebuild their rosters, including through personnel changes and over

(01:06:34):
the course of several seasons, and the circumstances in which
players or coaches on the floor take steps to lose game.
The former can be a legitimate strategy to construct a
successful team within the confines of the league rules. The ladder,
which we have not found and hope to never see
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Adam Silver to the NBA. If we ever received evidence

(01:06:58):
that players or coaches we're attempting to lose or otherwise
taking steps to cause any game to result otherwise than
on its competitive merits, that conduct would be met with
the swiftest and harshest response possible from the league office.

(01:07:19):
We don't want you to tank, but there's not a
whole hell of a lot we can do with it.
That's basically what Adam Silver saying. Don't you ever do
that again? Mini MEI, oh, come over here. I can't
be mad at you. Doesn't that what that that reminds
you have? They are Adam Silver is the pushover parents.
That's Adam Silvers the push over parent. Push over parents.

(01:07:45):
I mean, in hect many of us are push over parents.
This is an honest issue we have in my house.
I have one of my daughters can give us some attitude, right,
I mean, talk back, just not want to do what
she's supposed to do. So the first thing you'd get
back is the phone. Give me the phone. Okay, hold

(01:08:10):
on to this, Give me the phone. But one of
the issues with the phone, the negative side of the
phone is the fomo, the fear of missing out. We
moved our family from Connecticut to California. The good thing
about the phone is she can face time or I
forget what it's called, like house party where you can
chat with a bunch of different friends at once. So

(01:08:30):
she talks to her friends. We had neighbors that she's
best friends with. She talks to them almost every day
when she's doing her homework. That's the goodness. The bad
news is when they have something cool, they're doing something
she would have done with them, school, party, sleepover, dance, whatever.
She turns on her Instagram, she sees it and she

(01:08:53):
gets upset. Additionally, the only way in which they communicate
is by texting each other or messaging each other on
I G. And if you take away that phone, you're
taking away their opportunity to communicate. And for this particular,
she's just my daughter is really social, like she just
enjoys being around people. And you're basically saying, hey, you're

(01:09:14):
not gonna be able to communicate with other kids for
like two weeks. I mean, take away your phone now.
Once I get to being my girls are eleven, you
can't really spank them. But this is the Adam Silver
being the time out, parents, time out, Jimmy time out.

(01:09:35):
Why don't you count to ten? Like Jimmy's a sociopath,
you need to whip him. No, no, no, listen, we
understand that sometimes you're trying to rebuild your roster and
that's all you're trying to do. But if we ever
find out that you're tanking games, you're losing games on purpose.

(01:09:55):
There's going to be hell to pay. We want to
be a teams to look at on going like, has
he been watching this season? Has he seen the finishing
lineup of any of these teams? Does he realize what
the Atlanta Hawks are doing? Atlanta Hawks are bad. They're

(01:10:15):
just bad. They played the Bucks that in the nest
last game they nearly won. They lost to the Bucks
by five. But you look up and in the fourth quarter,
you know, in the fourth quarter, there's John Collins out
on the floor, the rookie out of Wake Forest. In
the fourth quarter, there's Tyler Dorsey, the rookie out of Oregon.

(01:10:38):
In the fourth quarter, you put Mike Moscala in. Heck,
some teams are buying out like ilian Illyosova. He got
bought out by the Atlanta Hawks. Why he's probably too good.
We want to be bad so bad that if you
perform well and you're older, we're actually going to pay

(01:10:59):
you to not play. So do I need proof? I
mean not really, but I do. Like Adam silver Is,
it feels like he's holding holding the NBA or NBA
teams up to the level of proof of like the

(01:11:19):
criminal court, Like, you gotta prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
You've proved to me beyond a reasonable doubt Dallas is tanking,
and I will take your claim seriously, Like, I can't
prove beyond a reasonable doubt except I have their owners
saying that they're tanking, and I look at the fact
they have nineteen wins with some of the talent they have.
Granted they just beat the pacers, but if you look

(01:11:41):
at who they play in the fourth quarter, they're not
playing to win. They're playing to lose music. You're gonna
be a spanking parent, You're gonna be a time out parent.
I haven't even seriously thought about having kids. These are
things you have to have conversations about. You gotta have

(01:12:02):
the religious conversation, like are we going to be religious?
What's your religion? What's my religion? Where are we celebrating Christmas?
You know? What? Do you? You know? Are you gonna
if we have kids? I mean, I'm sure have you
talked about having kids as far as the conversation we've
had about kids is you want to have kids some day? Yeah?
What about you? Yeah? That's about it. Can we practice now?

(01:12:26):
That's that's that's the next one. Can we practice now
having kids? You know, practice making kids? Can we practice
making kids that having kids? I don't want to practice that.
I'll just go with it. By that, let's play house,
let's play house, rama's do you guys spank? Do you
guys spank your kids? I have not spanked no ever.

(01:12:46):
I think I have given a little pat of the
butt to Lucas and to Sarah. Uh. You know that
kind of conveys that I'm in charge, but I wouldn't
go any further than that. Yeah, are your kids completely
entially respectful? Um? I think Lucas could be more respectful.
I think he's at that age now where he's kind

(01:13:07):
of feels like he's running the show. But the Sarah Sarah,
and Sarah's twelve, you know how that is? So? Yeah?
By or were you? Were you spanked as a kid?
I mean, you grew up in the Midwest. I'm guessing
that that you had not to get to switch, but
you probably had to go and your your dad spanked
you with a belt. That's not spanked at all. No, never,

(01:13:31):
So you obviously don't believe in it. Yeah, I think
that there's other ways around it. Yeah, yeah, I think so,
as you haven't had spank John's that's good. There was
that one time my dad My this is actually true,
my I think my dad actually spanked my niece or

(01:13:53):
nephew or something. They were like babysitting and by My
sister was furious, curious because I don't think she spanks
or whatever. But it's more like you can. It's that's
a lot like conference talk. I can make fun of
a conference foe, but you can't make up a ton
of a conference foe. I can't spank my kids, but

(01:14:13):
as a grandparent, you can't spank your kids. Yeah, I
believe my late father did that. And my sister was
furious and my parents called me. They're like, can you
believe that she's mad? I was like, yeah, I can
believe she's mad. Like, you don't come and spank somebody
else's kids, right, You don't sit in somebody else's big chair,
you don't sleep with anybody else's wife, and you don't

(01:14:34):
spank anybody else's kids. Like these are easy rules. I'm
not gonna sit here and lie to you, guys. I've
spanked all of my children, um, not hard, Although there
was one time when I got Hayes in the backside,

(01:14:54):
you know, just a little swat in the backside when
he was being naughty, and he got a little red tushy.
So I do think there's a gray area. But I
think at some point, whether it's what you take from them,
the legitimacy of a time out, the sternness by which
you speak with them, something else you take away from them.

(01:15:17):
You have to you have to punish people, not not
cruel and unusual punishment, not anything. And I understand that
this is part of the flaw in how teams rebuild,
and Adam Silver's trying on the fly. But last year
was bad. There was some lack of competitiveness throughout the season.

(01:15:39):
This year started out because of the breaks in the
schedule was great. Now they have more injuries they've ever had,
they got more teams tanking than they've ever had. And
then Adam Silver releases this awful press release to her.
He says, if we ever find out, so help me God,
we're gonna you know, we're gonna strike down upon you
with great vengeance. And the truth is, no, he's not.

(01:16:01):
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in theaters this Friday, and Say Hall of Famer Ray
Lewis was on Disputed earlier today. He gave his thoughts
on the NFL changing the catch rule. Who knows what's
the catch anymore? Right? I'm you know, you're you're you're
starting the watch professor of sports football in particular, and

(01:17:54):
you ask yourself a question, right, you start the watts,
social media and all this stuff just affecting our kids,
this technology stuff, it's starting to affect the game of football, right,
what's the catch? What's a legal hit for a defender?
I mean, where do you put your heil man? Where
can you put your heil man? How do you tackle quarterback?
Where do you hit him? Do you hit him too hot?

(01:18:15):
Do you hit him too low? Leave the game alone.
The game has always took care of itself. Simple. If
your receiver and you have a ball, test the football
possessed the football, hand it back to the referee and
go to the sideline. The game is really that simple,
but we have now created the circus. Well, a little

(01:18:38):
bit of what was done with the catch rule is
one of the issues or or some of the litany
of issues with the n c A. A. Yeah, and
you might be saying yourself, how do you make that?
How do you make that correlation? Here's how most of
the rules that people don't like about the n c
A I mean here, the problem is that there's this

(01:19:01):
confluence of some people don't like the rules, and then
there's a group of people that think athletes should get paid.
And because the rules are silly, it makes the n
c AS look silly as an institution, which is it's
basically the legislative body of all of these schools for
their athletics. But most of the rules were put in

(01:19:25):
place in order to a even the playing field, be
protect the student athlete or see frankly, protect the coaches.
I'm not saying the rules are good. I'm saying they're
put in place for those reasons. There's no other reason.
It's like they used it now. You can give a

(01:19:48):
kid as much food as you want. There's no limits
on if you're feeding a player, you're feeding an athlete,
there's no limits on how much you can spend, how
often you do it. You can feed them whatever you want.
That's in addition, you not in lieu of the meal card.
They'll get the meal plan, they'll get the money they
get for eating off campus. You're gonna feed guys at

(01:20:08):
training table. You don't, You can't, just don't have to
do it. You know, you used to be only able
to do it a certain period of time, certain number
of days, because you would exceeded value. And this goes
back to the some people will pick on the n
S A. Well, I can't give a guy a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich. There was a rule where you

(01:20:28):
could give somebody a bagel, but you couldn't give a
bagel and Peter. But like, I don't know what the
what the rule was. First of all, here's the probably
the most important thing. Most of the n c A
rules that people found as irritants were secondary level rules.
It was a lot like speeding. People didn't pay much

(01:20:49):
attention to him. They would break him, they would report him,
nothing would happen. But the other part too, it was
that the intent of putting these rules altogether were for
those three reasons. Look, if you look at the catch rule.
Going to the ground was not a good rule, but

(01:21:10):
the intent was, hey, we have specific details for your feet,
and we need to have specific details for the football
when you go to the ground, because there are guys
that catch the football, then they hit the ground, the
ball moves, they didn't really catch the football. They're getting
credit for something they didn't do. But because we need

(01:21:31):
to be so specific, so exact, so wordy, we ended
up taking off legitimate catches off off the board, which
parallels the n A rules. And they're in the process
of getting rid of some of the dumb rules, the
redundant rules, the ones that are silly or our cane,

(01:21:54):
you know that they used to used to not be
able to text players or text them as often as
you want. And the idea was, we want to protect
the student athletes. They're not constantly being uh, you know,
called by a coach, constantly being texted by a coach.
But players are savvy now. They all have their cell
phones and if somebody keeps texting them, they're not interested
in returning a text. You simply don't return the text

(01:22:19):
period period. So I like what I think where I
think the NFL rule book is going. Did I think
they make it more difficult by trying to make it
easier the first time? Yes? Do I think they're doing
it again? Probably it's going to provide some ambiguity. I

(01:22:44):
do want to offer up this one possibility is one thought.
What if we still have replay, only the replay can
only be shown to officials in live action speed. Does
that make sense to you, guys, Ryan Music? Does that
make any sense? The idea is I can show you replay,

(01:23:06):
you can go to replay, But the idea that you
have to see some tiny little movement of the football
is a bad idea. Let's just do it so that
they can clearly see it from all the different angles,
but only see it at game speed. Terrible idea or

(01:23:26):
decent idea? Music? I think it's a pretty good idea.
I like it good. Then we're done with that. Uh.
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(01:24:08):
the Mecca, New York City. I'm in town for a
lot of college hoop upcoming, Big Ten Championship, Big Ten Tournament, Championship,
Big East Tournament coming up. Uh might actually go out
to a Patriot leg game tomorrow night. Man. We got

(01:24:29):
a lot of stuff going on with college hoop, and
of course that continues to be uh. The surrounding the
the swirling winds of of of investigation and potential change
in the college landscape. It is interesting. We do this
all the time, right, We we do these constant rushes

(01:24:50):
to judgment based upon a single story, and we use
these little snippets and that becomes does become fact, right,
they become fact. Anecdotal evidence is not is not There
are not theories. Anecdotal evidence is just that. So saying

(01:25:16):
that college basketball is trying a crisis, or saying what
was it that Lebron James said, there's it's corrupt, like
is it from whose perspective? How would you know? Well,
you know, back when I was taking money from Adidas
and then signing with Nike, I was corrupt. It was

(01:25:39):
corrupt in recruiting me, and so I assume that it's corrupt.
Come on, Blue Chips, that's more than just a movie.
That's what he That's what he said, right. So either
I'm covering up for you know, my brother has been
in the business twenty years, or what he's saying is

(01:26:01):
what he thinks is accurate from his own personal experience
to which he never saw through and actually went to college.
Remember Lebron would have been eligible for college anyway. Remember
he was driving a hummer when he was in high school. Again,
he's speaking out of something he doesn't know. It's really frustrating,

(01:26:22):
you know, No, it becomes it's honestly, this is this
is the pr battle. This is what happens. Um. I
don't know if Obamacare was the greatest thing on earth
or not. I really don't, but I can tell you
why if it ultimately, you know, fails, because you know

(01:26:46):
what the Trump administration is kind of smartly doing is
they couldn't they couldn't get the votes to overturn it,
and so they're taking away a little pieces of funding,
little parts of the ruling parts that make it kind
of special. You know, the individual mandate will get get

(01:27:08):
that out of the way, and then it becomes a
house of cards. But I don't know if it's but like, look,
the insurance issue is not going away. It is not.
And there's a reason that the Clintons twenty five years
ago try to get the same exact thing done, where

(01:27:30):
it took them all their equity, and it's one of
the reasons they got demolished in the mid turf. They promised,
we're gonna get universal healthcare. They didn't get it done.
President Obama did, but they were un They weren't able
to celebrate the success of it. They never understood how
to control the narrative, even in the state of Kentucky.

(01:27:53):
And I saw this in the state of Kentucky, where
the state of Kentucky had the highest percentage of people
insured that had gained insurance since universal healthcare became a reality.
They would ask him like, do you like universal healthcare? Yes?

(01:28:13):
Do you like Obamacare? No? They're actually the same thing,
and it was all about whether or not you can
celebrate your successes. Smartl not sound arrogant, but go like, hey,
look we did this and it works. That's what's happened
with the n c a A. They've been unable. They

(01:28:33):
don't understand. And then some of it is you're fighting
an uphill battle. We don't like Congress, we don't like
the president, we don't like ceo s, we don't like
anybody in power. We don't like refs, we don't like owners,
we don't like commissioners, we don't like anybody like. The
only commissioner people like is Adam Silver, and he hasn't

(01:28:54):
really done anything. Adam Silver just released a memo that
says like, if I find out any of you are tanking,
big trouble. And there's like seven teams that are clearly tanking.
And they're like, okay, let me see here, all right, man, anything,
all right? Yeah, hey, Jim, keep coming in here and

(01:29:17):
take out the trash. The commissioner sent a silly memo here, Hey, listen,
I want you to play all the rookies. The last
thing we want to do is win this game. If
I find out any of you are, so we don't
like anybody who's in charge. But all that has happened

(01:29:38):
is the n C Mark Emmert, their president. He comes
across too many as unlikable, and they just don't understand
how to celebrate their successes instead of celebrating you know,
the locker rooms and the stadiums. And by the way,

(01:30:00):
the stadiums are designed and beautiful for the fans because
you give somebody a great stadium experience. And what do
you do? Give somebody a great stadium experience and they'll
donate more money, they have a great time. People have said,
I've read this like Texas opens up a state of
the art locker room for their football team. You're like, oh,

(01:30:22):
there's not money. See they could give that money to
the players. Okay, so what would you get more use
out of during four or five years of playing football
at Texas the locker room or a thousand bucks or
five thousand bucks. And the the answer is absolutely locker room.
All that you're doing and upgrading the facilities is all

(01:30:44):
that's been doing. All that's been happening to campus campuses nationwide.
Have you gone into fraternity houses since sorority houses like
people go crazy at Alabama, Like, look at the facilities
they're putting in for football. Do you know what other
facilities have been completely redone remodel over the past twenty years.
I've been to. I had a buddy who his daughter

(01:31:05):
goes to Alabama, went to there, went to a fraternity house.
It was state of the art, it was brand new,
it was beautiful, it was clean. Like, this is what
you have to do. You gotta redo things. They cost money,
and yeah, we make money, and then we spend the
money on the players, and yeah, some of it's on
the coaches, but the coaches bring in more players, and

(01:31:26):
the coaches bring in the fans and bring in the revenue.
But they've done a bad job of celebrating the success.
Is the bad job of pointing out that athletes all
these says athlete graduation, right, Well what does that mean
show athletes with jobs? Hey man, I came in none
of my parents, My parents hadn't been to college. I

(01:31:47):
go to college, I leave debt free, I don't make
the NFL. I get a job. Now I'm making a
d dollars. I got a WIFEI kids, mortgage, house, car, everything,
And it all start my first My only chance to
go to college was because of a college scholarship. Show
us that story, but they don't know how to celebrate it,
much like the Democrats did not know how to celebrate

(01:32:10):
when they fought for thirty five forty years to get
universal healthcare. If you don't know how to win the
propaganda war, oftentimes you lose the actual war. Speaking of
propaganda war, kind of feel like that's what's happening with UM.

(01:32:34):
I feel like that's what's happening with Lebron James. I'm
not saying I don't respect and appreciate thirty thousand points,
eight thousand rebounds, eight thousand assists. Lebron James average a
triple double last month or this month? Is it still February?

(01:32:55):
February twenty so he's average a triple double this month.
He had this to day after the game in which
he became the first player for thirty eight and eight
career wise. I'm always uh prided myself on being a
triple threat player. I'm not a score um, but I
can put the ball in the hole. I rebound the
ball to help my teammates offensively and defensively, and I

(01:33:16):
love to get my guys involved. I don't like to
be compared to anybody. I feel like I'm a one
of a time player. I'm a player does this if
this league has never seen before, And I take a
lot of pride in that, and I want to continue that,
you know, in a in a near future fair. It's
absolutely fair. That doesn't mean he's the best player ever, right,

(01:33:38):
He's actually saying, Hey, look these stats no one's ever
seen before. Is there a reason no one's ever seen
them before? Oscar Robertson was the last player to average
triple double before last year, when Russell Westbrook average and
triple double. Now, is Russell Westbrook just the most awesome
complete players since Oscar Robertson? Or is it the way

(01:34:00):
in which basketball is one static two played which allows
Russell Westbrook to gain stats that may artificially inflate parts
of his game that he's not as good at because
he because his usage rate and we all know what

(01:34:21):
usage rate is, romost, you know what usage rate is? Like, God,
I'm not using a term to which you're saying, they're like,
I really don't know what he's taught because when I
hear people talk about stuff in finance, or you know,
they own a they own a business, like there are
terms that they use that I don't know what they mean.
You do know what usage rate is, you know, I
do think it might be better if you explain that. Okay,
usage rate is basically what what is the percentage of

(01:34:43):
times in which he has the ball in his hands
which he's making a play. You can be out in
the court and not touch the basketball, like, the usage
rate is exponentially higher for a pint guard or league
guard now that it's ever been. Because NBA teams used

(01:35:04):
to come down and they'd run a set play for
a jump shot, or they'd run an ice so for
a player, or they throw the ball low post. Double
team would come they passed around, somebody take a shot,
or they throw it back in the low post. Now
you come down in a point guard, comes off a ball,
screen doesn't have it, brings it out, comes off another
one might start a cycle through and under seven on

(01:35:25):
the clock. Guests who has the basketball. Again, the percentage
of times in which the ball is in his hands
during an offensive possession or during the entirety of the game.
That is your usage rate, not just how often you're
on the court. How often you're actually touching the basketball.
His usage rate is through the roof. James Harden's usage

(01:35:47):
rate is through the roof. So so, if you have
the ball in your hands and you're making a decision
as the shot clock expires, you're either gonna shoot or pass.
If you pass, somebody else is gonna shoot. That's an assist. Additionally,
the court is so spread out you're taking power forwards
out of the game. There is really no such thing

(01:36:07):
as a true power forward. The Charles Oakley, the Karl Malons,
the Moses Malons. Those guys would not exist in this game.
You take away all of those rebounders and guess what happens.
Guards get more rebounds, or Lebron James, who does a
little bit of everything well, becomes a better rebounder. We've

(01:36:27):
skewed the stats while viewing them in the same prism
usage rates through the roof. Personnel has changed, we still
view the stats the same, and maybe most importantly, while
everything Lebron said about himself, I'm not a score, but
I can put the ball in the bucket, he could
have gone on and said I'm not John Stockton or

(01:36:50):
Steve Nash or Mark Jackson, one of the great pastors
of all time, but I can still pass the ball.
I'm not Dennis Frodman. I'm not you know, pick Moses Malone.
I'm not pick great rebounder of all time. I'm not
in that kind, but I can still rebound the ball.
The jack of all trades is not the master of
a trade. And in basketball, one of the one of

(01:37:15):
the one of the poorly kept secrets is the best
players in the game not only want the ball with
the game on the line, but they know how to
take and make a shot, take over a game. They
have the ability to make a play, make a shot
for themselves. And if you look at Lebron, there are

(01:37:37):
times in when she's done it, but there's a lot
of times in which she's deferred. And maybe what this
team is missing most is a guy capable of being
the best player on the planet with the ball in
his hands, creating a shot for himself. And they don't
have Kyrie. The stats are great, but they're skewed based
upon how the game is played today, and they also

(01:37:59):
don't tell the story of game on the line. Who
do you want to have the ball in their hands? Uh?
Kirk Cousins is a free agent. It has long been
presumed that if he wants to win, he goes to
the Broncos. If he wants to get paid, he goes

(01:38:20):
to the Jets. What about the team in Minnesota that
went to the NFC Championship Game that needs a quarterback
and has some money? CBS Sports Senior NFL writer Will
Brinson joins the show what's the likelihood that happens? Find
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But will for people who don't know lives in the Carolina.

(01:40:06):
Carolina's very very familiar with the Panthers, and they released
Jonathan Stewart today, all time leading rushier in Carolina Panther history.
I don't know how much that matters to people, but
it's interesting, you know, right, Like Dave Gettleman departs and
one of the reasons that he left, that he was
fired was because he didn't want to resign Thomas Davis

(01:40:29):
to an extension, greg Olsen to an extension. He was
just kind of a no feelings guy, a very business
like guy. Correct. Is that will? Is that a correct
assertion of why they didn't like him in Carolina? I
think that spot on Doug and always a pleasure to
talk to you about. Uh. It's interesting with Marty Hernie too,
because he's the old you know, he drafted Jonathan Stewart,

(01:40:52):
he drafted Charles Johnson, he brought these guys in, and
he also rewarded all these guys with huge contracts that
I think many of us believe we're probably mandated by ownership.
And so now it's fascinating to see with Jerry Richardson
out of the power structure that Marty Herny, the former
GM who was fired and then rehired and an inter

(01:41:14):
rown and then temporarily you know, suspended and restated and
al full time, he's got he's got GM bingo there. Uh,
he's got the authority to go out and cut these guys.
And for Carolina fans, it's interesting because there is this
old guard of players that have been around for so long.
I mean Jonathan Stewart ten years with the Panthers, that's
a that's a lifetime in the NFL. Same thing with

(01:41:37):
Charles Johnson. And you're gonna see Ryan Khalil, Thomas Davis
are going to retire after this year. Not a whole
lot of guys left. It's sort of a full house cleaning,
and it makes you think they might be aggressive again
in free agency, but with a with a different crop
of players. Alright, so help me out with gentleman. And
if you can read the t leaves in New York,
he went from, Hey, you know, let's sit down Eli

(01:41:59):
and try and developed one of these quarterbacks. You see
who we have, Maybe draft a quarterback to get him
and takes over. They hire a coach and like now
they're all in on Eli man Elies got gas in
the tank. Like I must be missing something because I
think helis a good quarterback, but he's not been a
good quarterback to past couple of years. Some of that's
offensive line, some of that's his own age, some of
that is the injuries to all the wide receivers last

(01:42:21):
year as well. Um, now they're talking about maybe trading
the number two pick, or maybe they take see Kwon Barkley.
You know Gettleman and how he operates best. Guess what
do you think he does well? You mentioned I think
there're a couple of different paths. I mean, you know
the reality of having number two and a quarterback heavy
draft is you're not stuck in going one direction. I

(01:42:42):
think a couple of things are noteworthy. Noteworthy with David Gentleman.
One two of the guys he drafted early on that
that turned out to be really nice picks, Star Lotu
and Andrew Norwell, both in Carolina. Both are gonna be
free agents. Wouldn't be surprising if the Giants went out
and we're players for those guys in free agency. And
if you do that, all of a sudden, you start

(01:43:04):
to sort of develop this team that you can put
around Eli Manning. And then you go into the draft
and I think, um, look, I mean this is this
doesn't take a genius stay. But their four paths here. One,
they do draft a quarterback. They've got a guy they
love at number two, and they decided to go in
that direction. Dave Gentleman said today though, that if you
miss on a quarterback in the draft at number two.

(01:43:24):
It can set you back five years. And you know,
if you miss early in New York as the Giants
new GM, it can get you fired. I don't think
Dave Gentleman wants to get fired, so I wouldn't be
surprised if he would in a different direction. He could
auction off the pick if there are people that want
to come up there and and to jump ahead of
you know, anybody else that might be quarterback interested, maybe

(01:43:45):
the Jets, whoever it is, and then the other routes
they could go. See. Juan Barkley makes a lot of sense.
He took Christian McCaffrey at number eight last year with
the Panthers, and take Jwan Barkley is a better running back,
a more complete running back, a more traditional running back,
and he would help rejuvenate the Giant's offense if they
stuck with Eli, And then I wouldn't be totally stunned
if they drafted Bradley Chubb either. You know, Dave Gentleman

(01:44:07):
has a propensity for getting the big guys in the trenches.
Chub has a high floor in my opinion, and a
very high ceiling too. And if you can go out
and get an elite pass rusher to a blue ship
pass rusher to put in there, it wouldn't be stunning
at all. That's something he's you know, really followed through
within his entire career as a GM is developing pass
rushers and getting waves of pass rushers. Will Brinson joining

(01:44:29):
us from CBS Sports dot Com, their senior NFL writer,
You bring up a ton of interesting stuff. Um, here's
one that I just thought of, and so stick with
me because I'm working it out kind of as we go.
There's a lot of talking about Lamar Jackson what his
value is, and you know, traditional NFL guys like man,
he's skinny, and he's got he's got more athletic legs

(01:44:51):
than the tree trunk quarterback legs because the beating that
you take the base that you need. Additionally, he can
be erratic at times and just misfire on easy throws.
I kind of think to the person who says, well,
this is a black white issue, like, no, it's not
Christian McCaffrey. He was. He was an acquired taste out

(01:45:13):
of college, not because he was a white guy who's
fast and you used to not have used to having
white guys be that fast, but because of the slightness
of his build, which forgive me if I'm wrong, but
that's proven out to be accurate. Right, Like, he's not
a he's not a inside the tackles. He's very, very versatile,
but he's still relatively small, maybe too small in fact,

(01:45:34):
to be in every down back And so some of
it does come just down to your build for traditional
NFL people, and Christian McCaffrey is a reason that you
might not draft that type of running back, just like
just like Lamar Jackson why you might not draft a quarterback.
Is that a fair comparison in a way. Yeah, yeah, no,
I think that's interesting. And and with McCaffrey, when you

(01:45:56):
look at it, the Panthers didn't cater to his skill
set the way that they could have. And I think
North Turner will help in that regard. Um, you know,
he can run between the tackles, but he wasn't efficient
with the way that the Panthers ran things in that offense.
He ended up with a hundred and seventeen carries and
then he had a hundred and thirt keeen targets. I
mean that tells you everything you need to know. About

(01:46:18):
how the Panthers utilized him last year. I mean, he
was basically a you know, a slot receiver at that point,
you know, I mean under certing he carries it a lot.
But let's be real here, he that many targets. He
tells you what they're doing. Um with the Lamar Jackson thing,
I really do think it's exacerbated by the fact that
Josh Allen is in this draft class. The the whole
black white issue, because with Josh Allen in the draft

(01:46:41):
class and people falling over his physicality and and look,
his physicality is worth falling over while his accuracy stinks.
I think it's sort of it sort of draws a
lot of attention to that. But the Lamar Jackson thing,
you know, I mean he he doesn't have the traditional
build of a quarterback. You know, he he is tall,
but I mean you have to worry about him running
at the next level. People have been saying that for

(01:47:02):
three years now. He's an explosive playmaker, but if he
has to make it work with his legs, it probably
won't work. I mean, that's why I get what Bill
polly And said. From that regard, that is the exception
right in the NFL. If you if you have to
run to win, there aren't a lot of guys who've
been able to do it. Now, if you can pass
and then supplement you know, that passing skill set by

(01:47:22):
running the ball, then all of a sudden you've become
a really lethal weapon. And so it's a it's a
fine line. I think if somebody can bring Lamar Jackson
in and give him a year to sit and learn,
and I think that'd be to be good for several
quarterbacks in this class, but for Jackson in particular, then
he could really do some damage at a quarter you know,
as a quarterback in the NFL. But you've got to
build around his skill set. He's long been thought that

(01:47:44):
Kirk Cousins, if he wants to win, goes to the
Denver Broncos. But then we were talking yesterday and you
look at the Minnesota Vikings not having any quarterbacks under
contract with the new league year. Are the Vikings the
team that we should be most paying attention to. You
know that scene in Dumb and Dumber when they go
to the they're up in Aspen and they go to

(01:48:05):
the owl there, you know, they save the owl's thing
and they stand by the bar and they put out
they put out the vibe. That's what the Vikings are
doing to kirk Cousins right now. They are standing at
the bar and putting out the vibe when they you know,
they're like, well, we're not We're not even gonna bother
trying to get that extra year out of Teddy Bridgewater,
and we're not gonna tag case Keenum either. We're letting
kirk Cousins know that we want to pursue him and

(01:48:26):
that if he wants to win in the NFL and
he wants to have an organization that gets behind him on,
commits to him completely and has a you know, three
or four or five year plan in place to make
a Super Bowl run on a consistent basis, then the
Minnesota Vikings are here full of your pal. Do you
need somebody like that, because to me, I do think
that Kirk Cousins, at the end of the day is

(01:48:48):
just like anybody. He's gonna he's gonna want to make
as much money as possible. But he's also been you know,
playing being a yo yo for the Redskins for the
past what you gosh, I mean eight sig or actually
get six years roughly and he'd probably liked to get
a shot at going somewhere and enjoying himself every day
when he goes to work, knowing he has the full

(01:49:09):
support of the organization, knowing that that he's going to
have a shot to make a Super Bowl, and having
a good defense, having a great defense, and having some
nice skilled position players around him. And no one fits
that description better than the Minnesota Vikings. Do you think
he goes there? I think that there's a very good

(01:49:30):
chance he will. I think there's a very good chance
step to New York Jets throw bleep bleep money, like
you know, bleep you money at him and and then
make him make a tough choice. I mean, that's what
it comes down to, dog right, Like would you would
you take fifteen million less dollars to go have a
chance to win a Super Bowl every year versus you know,
or twenty twenty million less uh to play for the

(01:49:53):
Jets with no guarantees that you're even gonna come close
to sniffing a division title. I'd like to say that
I would take the mini an offer, but I don't.
I don't know if I'm a purit hardest. Kirk Cousins
Well and then you It's also it's like taking a
job in a CC basketball Now you're like, Okay, if
I take it now, in two years, Brady's gone, and

(01:50:13):
then we can win the division. Right, Maybe that becomes
that becomes part of your thinking. You're you're Kevin Keats,
if you're Kirk Cousins, You're hoping that it's it's honest,
honest to goodness, It's true. It's It's one of the
things that basketball coaches discuss is you know, if you
just you just ride it out until that those guys retire,
it's really hard to replace absolute legends and Hall of famers.

(01:50:36):
So it's gonna be fascinating. Who's gonna be Mike Glennon?
Was we we found out today what we all knew,
which is Mike Glennon's gonna be cut, so he's gonna
wipe away tears with what is it, eighteen million dollars?
Who's gonna be this year's Mike Glennon overpaid because the
last one on the there on the market. Oh J
J mccaren. I mean he's he's gonna get Mike Glennon money. Um,

(01:51:00):
but I think it would maybe be a little bit
more secure because there's there's gonna be a more robust
market for his services, and you have a team in
Cleveland that could very well want a bridge quarterback, want
McCarron's uh to be on the roster and be forced
to really throw some money at him, because they're gonna
be other teams like the Cardinals, Um, you know, the
Vikings will be interested if they miss out on Cousins,

(01:51:22):
the Jets will probably be interested. They're gonna be a
lot of teams that are that are looking at McCarron
and um and and trying to bring him in and
trying to make something work. Whereas really with Mike Glennon
last year, just the way it shook out, there wasn't
a huge market and the Bear still had to overpay
for that single season. So I think you see a
J McCarron get a big, old fat contract that really

(01:51:43):
causes some some eyebrows to get raised. Great stuff, Will
Brinson checking his stuff out at CBS sports dot com,
and of course you can follow him on Twitter as
well well. Great to catch up, we'll do so in person.
Thanks for joining us on Fox Sports Radio Blackwise, Take
it easy, man. Pleasure is absolutely mine. Will is a
good a dude man, really really good dude and knows

(01:52:03):
a ton about you know. It's like one of those
things when you when you write, UM, you know about
the whole when you cover the whole league, you know
the whole league. But he also really knows what's going
on in Carolina, living there and covering that team for years.
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going on? Championship Week is underway because these tournaments tipped
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(01:52:50):
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver warning all thirty teams about tanking
in a memo claiming harsh punishments would be handed down
if there is any evidence of tanking from a coach
or player. Akers today Wave veteran forward Corey Brewer. Also
Lakers rookie guard Josh hard as a fracture in his
left hand. Nowhere on his status the rest of the season.
If you missed some of Dougs interview with Will Brinson

(01:53:11):
and the notes they talked about, I'll try to fill
you in quickly. As the Panthers did release running back
Jonathan Stewart, running back Matt Forte retired after ten years
in the NFL. Jets like go of defensive lineman Mohammed
Wilkerson Well Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says linebacker Ryan Chase
Here won't play football in of course, he's suffered the
spine injury last season. NFL Network says Patriots sended Rob

(01:53:31):
Gronkowski expected to play in the eighteen season. And this
from New Giants GM Dave Gettleman. As the g Men
hold the number two overall pick in the NFL draft,
someone makes me an offer. I can't refuse what I
moved back to Pitts. Depends upon who's there. If there's
a guy worthy of being the second pick of a draft.
If we answer that question to the affirmative you're drafting

(01:53:52):
which you think is gonna be a Hall of Fame player. Okay,
so he can't get too cute about the whole thing.
So if they're gonna get a Hall of Hammer, they'll
keep too. But if not, could be open for business. Doug.
That's a weird thing to say, right, and that a
weird thing to say. That's like a guy talking about
it's Have you heard the what's going on with the Bachelor? No,

(01:54:16):
I am not. The Batcher finale is upcoming, but the
reports are that whoever he picks, he actually broke up
with a couple of weeks later, like a month or
two later, and now he's dating the other girl who
he dumped in the final episode. Oh because it was
taped whatever months back. Yes, yes, yes, Ari Liondyke is

(01:54:39):
the Bachelor. So the America waits with with bated breath.
The point is that, you know, so oftentimes these people
go into the Bachelor and bachelorrette and they're thinking, I'm
going to find a husband or wife. And I understand
that's the premise of the show, but she really should
go into it, or maybe it's just just a dating lesson.
Go into the dating thinking, like Hedge, want to find somebody.

(01:55:00):
I'm gonna hang out with somebody that that somebody who doesn't.
I don't piss them off, and they don't piss me off. Right.
I actually had a buddy he's been married thirteen years
and we be married seventeen years, and he's he's kind
of going through a tough time and they had a
death in the family, and he's like, Hey, me and
my wife have been arguing, like first time ever. It's

(01:55:21):
like you've been You've been at this longer than I have.
He's like, how do you guys do it? So ramo's by?
Or if I told you the basic premise of how
we how you get by without arguing? I didn't say
we get that argument. Did not say that. I didn't
say that. Uh, Basically, I have to accept the fact
that I'm going to annoy the hell out of her,

(01:55:41):
and she has to accept the fact that she's going
to do some things that are annoying too. And yeah,
sometimes like you do things that are annoying. But it's
like a greater good argument, Like you know, is that
she's beautiful, she's way out of my leg. We got
three great kids, we got a good life together. Great
or good? All Right, she does some things that annoy me,
and I think she thinks the same of me. My

(01:56:03):
wife actually told me, she's like, hey, listen, um, I
can't take the way you eat tacos. You cram them
in your mouth, you eat them too fast. I can't
look at you when you're eating tacos. We are totally
honest with each other. I said, yes, we are. That's
me being honest with you. It's like, all right, And
she's like, and I think you needed to look at
the back of your hair. That's it's standing back there,

(01:56:24):
just being honest. Now, of course women can be more
honest with men. So utter and sere honesty and start
with the premise that you're really going to annoy each
other after a while, but you gotta see greater good.
Can I say that, I think it, after many years
of marriage, for you and for myself and for Dan,
who will get there someday, that I think two problems
like that it's not a big deal in the in

(01:56:45):
the grand scheme of things. That's actually pretty good, not
bad at all. Well. I also, I do this thing
where I scratched my mouth with my finger and my tongue.
She hates that. Three I snore, and she can't sleep
through my store, although when she snores, I can sleep
through that, although her snoring is much cuter. Um, I'm

(01:57:05):
not as messy as I used to be, but I'm
a slab by in comparison to how needs she is. Yeah,
I don't really don't know how we stayed together this
My point is that when we started dating, we didn't
start dating saying, hey, I only want to date somebody
that I am gonna marry. And Dave Gettleman starting with
the premise of if we draft number two, we're drafting

(01:57:27):
we think we're drafting a Hall of Fame player, like
or maybe just draft somebody who think fits in with
rebuilding the Giants, Like do we have to do? You
have to have that type of billing because whoever they
draft this is on tape now. Dave Gentleman can talk
around it all he wants, but he just said, if
we draft you at number two, that means we believe
you're a Hall of Fame caliber player. And that's a lot.

(01:57:50):
When a guy has not taken a snap in an
NFL game. That's going on your first date going like, listen,
I want to go on a date, but I'm only
gonna date. Go on a date with you if I
think we're gonna get married and have kids and grandkids
and live happily ever after. Not the way you want
to get in a relationship. Online car shopping and be confusing.

(01:58:12):
Not anymore. With true Price from True Car, now you
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confident car buying experience. Johnny Manzel opened up about his
infamous trip to Vegas, Remember where he had the disguise on.
I'll share it with you next, but first. This Friday,
March second, Bruce Willis stars and Eli Ross reimagination of

(01:58:34):
the original action film Death Wish. After a devastating home invasion,
a family man morphs into a badass revenge machine when
the system fails him, so he decides to take matters
into his own hands to protect his family. The big
question is whether his audience views him as a hero
or a villain based upon how far he'll go to
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with and deeply human, full of swagger with it that
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(01:59:19):
car buying experience. Mm hmmmmmmmm, Doug Olive show, Fox Sports Radio.
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Auto Zone. Let's get to the press, the press, Dan
Byro what he got? Well, Doug, we've got a new
pizza sponsor in the National Football League. A day after
we thought we heard the news that Papa jobs at
the NFL. We're parting ways. Maybe it's fitting set Hut

(02:00:04):
Pizza Hut the new pizza sponsor of the NFL. Oh,
that's a done deal. Didn't you get you guess Dominoes? Yes, yes,
nobody else bothered to guess. This is what? This is, what,
this is, what always happens. I wanted it to be
Godfather's I was in Omaha, wanted to be Godfather's pezez.

(02:00:25):
You know why because I have a great catch line
for Godfather's Godfather's pizza. What's that? Um? Well, the most
famous line from The Godfather is I came it off
he couldn't refuse. So what you do is you say
Godfather's pizza. We make a pizza. You can't refuse. What

(02:00:48):
do you think? Who can refuse pizza? Anyway, I'm in
New York. I'm gonna go have a slice. What else
you got, damn buyer? I like set pizza hut. I
think that that is good for pizza. That ready set,
it's hot, it's hot, It's not bad. Something like that
to Hanny seven pizza hut, ten wags, ten wings wings Uh.

(02:01:16):
The Panther has released their all time leading restaurant today
and running back Jonathan Stewart one of many moves made
in the NFL, including Matt Forte retiring and the Bear
saying that Mike Glennon won't be back next season. Mike
Glennon wiping away those tears with hundred dollar bills. This
is a good time. How about how about they invited
him to the draft party last year, celebrating him as

(02:01:37):
the starting quarterback and they're like, I don't want the
number Mitchelbisky trade Mitchell drobiscuit. I oh awkward, awkward, Oh man, amazing. Um.
How about some more football news. Johnny Manzel appeared on
the Tomahawk Podcast today, the podcast hosted by Joe Thomas

(02:01:59):
and Andrew Hawkins. On the Uninterrupted and Well, Johnny talked
about remember that trip to Vegas that he had? Ye, yeah,
well there's we had the disguise on. Yes, yes there was.
Here's about that disguise that you talked about. I'm not
gonna be able just to go in with a hat.
I'm like, let's go to this wig shop. So I
just get on Google typing the nearest wig shop and

(02:02:20):
just go somewhere off the strip, very very sketchy, and
just walk into this place and and this little like
lady comes up. She's like, what do you want on
your hair? Honey? What you want? Like? I need something
that makes me not look like this. Do you have
a mustache? Do you have a wig? Do you have anything?
And she came back with this wag and I put
it on in two seconds and I'm like perfect. I
shaved all my facial hair, butt my mustache Yeah. So

(02:02:42):
that was Johnny Manzel talking about his trip to Vegas, which,
by the way, Doug, he was at the practice facility
that Saturday. His plan was to take a three hour
trip to Vegas and then fly back that night and
be back in time for the team requirements that Sunday
morning before the game, and just never made it. What
could possibly go wrong? Yes, I heard that story. I

(02:03:02):
read that story, and I was like, and he thought
that would work? Yeah? He and he yeah, just to
prove that his brain was not functioning appropriately at the time. Quickly,
one more cut from how we thought about that plan.
I had this reckless, reckless plan on a Saturday after
the after the walkthrough, I'm gonna catch let's call it,
twelve o'clock flight to United United coach everything, so I

(02:03:28):
fly out there. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna fly out
there from twelve. I get there at three or one
or two or whatever, two or three or whatever time
it is, and I'm gonna stay there for three hours
and then I'm gonna catch the ten thirty flight back
so I can make my mandatory treatment session the next
day for all the injured players before the game on Sunday, yeah,
I didn't make it, so I called b Yes, he
wasn't ever going to make a flight to come back,

(02:03:49):
and of course he missed the flight to come back.
But I'm not gonna do anything. It's going to be
a distraction that that was not from the podcast, that's
from something else. University of Arizona DOUG Board of Regents
will hold a special meeting Thursday to this US issues
involving the men's basketball program. The regents will receive legal
advice and also discuss the contract of current men's basketball
coach Sean Miller. Yeah, that's generally not a good thing. Remember,

(02:04:13):
they don't have meetings after a wind streak. They don't
have meetings about your your future as a coach when
things are going well. And an update from Madison Square Garden.
I think Iowa has more points than fans in attendance.
Hawkeyes up on Illinois fourteen to five, six and a
half minutes gone by. Now fifteen to five was six
and a half minutes gone by in the first half

(02:04:33):
of Day one of the Big Ten Tournament. At MSG
Day one of all these conference tournaments, the press Day
one of all these conference tournaments are empty. Just to
be to be totally fair. Maybe not this empty, but
day one, five thirty on a Wednesday afternoon in New
York City that is not exactly prime time viewing. I

(02:04:56):
still I'm still dumbfounded by Jay Will James and Jalen
Rose telling players they should boycott the Final Four, like, hey, guys,
the final four of what makes people's careers like yours,
But we don't want anybody else to make their careers
off the Final Four. Josh McCowen joined US tomorrow. Jets

(02:05:18):
quarterback had a good season. Why don't the Jets want
him back? Eddie House joins US tomorrow. Does he have
any solution for tanking? Because the commissioner Adam Silver said,
if I find out you're tanking, big, big trouble. I mean,
we're all scared. This is Doug Godlip Show, Fox Sports
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