August 21, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan and Monse in for Doug as they feature 2016 in this week's installment of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday". Dan and Monse welcome FOX Sports columnist Matt Mosley onto the show to talk Cowboys. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes the two through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Car A happy Thursday, as the final week of the
NFL preseason begins tonight, everything will be wrapped up by
the time we get to Sunday morning. Welcome in. It
is a Thursday, and Mancy, you know what else it is?
It's a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Week zero in the college football season comes up on Saturday. See,
but it's also the final normal weekend before Labor Day weekend,
So it's kind of entering the final weekend of summer.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
No, Dan, summer is going to go into October and November.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We've weather might but your life will not because of school,
because of other commitments. The temperature may say different, the
weather patterns may be different, but your life and your
schedule is about to change after this weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Fine, you make an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It is going to get or feel extra busy soon.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Early Labor Day this year September one.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Yeah, that means.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
September fourth, the start of the NFL season, and that
is two weeks from tonight. It is almost here. Your
long wait since the Eagles were dominating the Chiefs in
Super Bowl fifty nine, Your long wait is almost over.
By the way, that seems like it was six weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
It does it different?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Does I know? Jason Stewart loves the time conversation, But
it does seem like it was just six weeks ago
that we were watching the Eagles dominate and I'm waiting
for Iowa Sam to say Cooper Dejene picking off Patrick
Mahomes and running a back for a touch down. It
does be for I did You're welcome? It does seem
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not that long ago.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Speaking of looking back, we always do it at this
time every Thursday. This is the uh, the brainchild of
myself and Jason Stewart in a segment we like to call.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
I don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Jason Stewart, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 9 (02:33):
I'll take it from here. You know what the good
thing about radio is is that there are listeners right
now that are listening to this feature for the first time.
There are also like you know, a different mix of
people working the show today. So I'm gonna just forget
the fact that we've probably done this year three times.
(02:55):
We're just gonna We're gonna redo it. Just like Joe
Dimagio said, there's somebody in the audience that is watching
you for the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Can we reveal a little bit of the curtains since
you and I kind of devised this segment, please, yes.
I had it one way, Jason thought it would go another.
One of the concerns I had about the segment after
thinking about it at first, was we're gonna run out
of years, Like there's only there's like we can't be
like nineteen forty seven now, like like that doesn't what
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happened it like it is it relative. Plus I'm in
my late forties, Jason's in his early fifties. We don't
remember necessarily the first couple of years of our lives
when it comes to sports Manzi and Sam weren't even
close to being born at those times, so like there's
still only a window. And when you have fifty two
weeks out of the year and you don't remember fifty
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two years of sports were we were always going to
be limited, so there's there's nothing that we can do
about that.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna provide for
you some amazing content in the next five to eight minutes.
Twenty sixteen. I want every listener listening now to go
back to that time. What was I doing in August
of twenty sixteen. I want the five members of this
show on air today to think about what they're doing.
And the reason why I've picked twenty sixteen today is
(04:18):
what happened on August twenty first, twenty sixteen. Well, let
me tell you. The USA basketball team was in Rio
for the Olympics. Kevin Durant was scoring thirty points in
a thirty point win over Serbia in the gold medal game,
and USA when they're third straight gold medal under head
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coach Mike Shrzyzhevski, I don't remember a whole lot about
that game down so I went and googled a little bit.
Carmelo Anthony was on that team, Draymond Green was on
that team, and Klay Thompson was a part of that team.
Of course, that was, you know, in the wake of
something that we'll probably also discuss. It was in the
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wake of Lebron, James and the Calves defeating the Warriors
earlier on in the summer as they erased a three
to one series deficit. Dan Bayer, what do you remember
most about twenty sixteen in sports?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It is it is that moment Cleveland getting a championship,
because it wasn't It wasn't just about Lebron fulfilling his
promise to the city. It was it was about the city.
It wasn't about the Calves, it wasn't about Lebron. It
was everything to do with what was happening with Cleveland
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and the Browns close calls that they had not making
it the Super Bowls and having the drive and the
fumble derail their hopes of bringing a Super Bowl to town.
The then Indians now Guardians had been close a time
or two in winning a World Series and were unable
to do it. Even that later on that year. I'm
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sure that we'll get to but it was Lebron bringing
home that idol for the city of Cleveland that I
just say. It's the It was much more than just
Lebron winning his third It was much more than that,
and that's why I think it stands out so much.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
This is for you, So I agree.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Obviously it's the first thing I think about too when
it comes to the NBA. But it was also Kobe's
final year in the NBA and his final game. I
remember sitting there and watching again Laker hater, through and
through Kobe, but I sat there and I watched Kobe
drop what was it, sixty points something on its final game.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I watched the entire game. By the end of that,
I had tears a little tear.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
In my eye because I just was like, I am
never going to watch a player on the Lakers that
makes me feel this way. Kobe I used to hate
watch because he was so good and he constantly made
you know, played well against teams that I wanted him to.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Lose to, and he was so good.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And I remember that I watched the entire game, and
I think the Warriors were playing, and I kept going
back and forth. There we go, there we go, and
I was I kept going back and forth, and then
by the end of it, I was just watching Kobe.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
That's why I remember. I was like, I have to
have to finish. I have to finish watching Kobe because
this is it. I'm never gonna do this again.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And then personally, that was the first time I ran
a half marathon was in twenty sixteen, so much, there
we go, There we go nice.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
Yes, I was working local radio and I got credentials
to go to that Kobe Bryant game, so I could
actually say I was there high above the floor. And
I remember specifically, and we played this on this show
within the last year or two, what Kobe did. He
grabbed the microphone at the end of the game and
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he addressed the crowd. And I did not know that
it would hit me so hard, but we replayed Kobe
that ended in Kobe out and drops the mic. What
he says during that speech is so emotional. My goodness.
There was not a dry eye on the show when
we replayed it on specifically got very emotional.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It was a great year of huge happenings. And I
don't even want to leave basketball because I know if
Doug was on this show, he would say the greatest
shot in NCAA tournament history was made. That was Chris
Jenkins of Villanova hitting the buzzer beater against North Carolina
to win the national championship. There are other amazing shots
(08:35):
and some may differ, but I believe I may be
putting words in Doug's mouth, but I don't think that
I am that he considers that shot by Villanova in
winning their first of two national championships the greatest shot
that he's seen in the NCAA tournament of just North
Carolina tying in on a crazy shot, Villanova just running
up court, and then always Jay Wright being so cool
(08:57):
and collected as they win the national championship twenty sixteen
was loaded. And we're not even halfway through some of
this stuff. But even in the basketball world that gets
buried because of all the great stuff that happened in
the NBA.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
That is true. And when I asked Isaac what he's
got for us, he said he what a Smorgasborg shmorgas board.
Speaker 10 (09:19):
Good job, morgas board, getting hungry. All right, we'll start
with I got three Yeah, go ahead, down.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I was gonna say, you're going to Iowa Sam this
and give us like three different things?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Is that?
Speaker 11 (09:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Wow? And so then I was, well, Sam, I'm actually
looking up for you because you haven't gone yet. And
I didn't want Isaac what.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
Actually I'd bequeath my turn to Sam. No, No, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I don't have much to head other than you guys
want me talking about Iowa football in twenty sixteen, No
you don't, so go ahead, Isaac.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
It's all yours, all right.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
I don't remember much from that year.
Speaker 10 (09:52):
I got four quick things. So obviously the Cubs winning
the World Series, that was that year. But twenty sixteen
was also the so of Kevin Durant's free agency and
the Hamptons and signing with Golden State and how it
set the NBA world on fire, and the official announcement,
as I recall, came on the morning of the fourth
(10:12):
of July. In twenty sixteen, as I recall, it was
also the year of the infamous Laramie tunsul Bong incident
just before the NFL Draft. And also, do you guys
remember this phrase, Gia gia j eah? Anybody remember gia?
(10:37):
It was back then the phrase made popular by US
Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte. Remember at the twenty sixteen Olympics,
he and his fellow swim bros claimed they were robbed
at gunpoint at a Brazilian gas station. But it turned
out that that story fell completely apart, and what it
(10:59):
actually what happened was they had in their celebratory stupor
trashed said gas station and were held at gunpoint before
they before they could get away so they could pay
for the damages. So that was the scandaled DuJour. Back
then at the twenty sixteen Olympics, Ryan Lockty and his
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Gia in Brazil.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I like a jaw, like a chaw. Yeah, I think, yeah,
I think, Sam, I think you're right chiaw yeah, jew
yeah yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There was a lot happening in the world of golf
at twenty sixteen, and I will piggyback off of Isaac's
mentioning of the Olympic Games. We had the dream team
earlier of the twenty sixteen squad that Jason mentioned now
Ryan Lochte. And it was also the retard of golf
to the Olympic program in twenty sixteen, as the gold
medal was won by Justin Rose. Great year for golf
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in twenty sixteen. Jordan Speith blew the Masters d and
he Willet ended up winning it. Dustin Johnson won at Oakmond.
He had quite the showdown between Henrik Stenson and Phil
Mickelson at Royal Troon, just playing magnificent golf down the stretch.
Stinson ends up winning, but because of the Olympics, they
had to move the PGA Championship up a couple of weeks.
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Jimmy Walker ended up winning that at Baltus Roll. It
was a arranged the late event. I will add this.
US wins the Ryder Cup in Minnesota, a home Ryder
Cup victory as they were able to redeem themselves. They
had lost previously at Glenn Eagles and then they had
actually lost the last time on home turf at Medina
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where they blew a lead on Sunday, so they got redemption.
Patrick Reid and Rory McElroy going head to head. It
was a great scene, good year for golf, really good
year for golf, but maybe just not up to the
level because of how big those other events ended up.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Now the listeners don't know this because they can't see Dan,
but he didn't have any notes in front of him
that was off the top of his head. He's got
every single year for the last forty eight years committed
to memory. When it comes to the golf schedule, not
forty eight but forty seven.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Somewhere Dan could do a golf recap from like nineteen
fifty eight.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Dan is the Steve Hartman of golf.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (13:16):
It's funny you mentioned Justin Rose because I watched an
interview with Justin Rose and golf when he was chipping
and he was practicing. He had one thing in his
in his iPod, and it was this popular song that
hit the charts in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Hello.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Now Mancie's feeling this song. This is, of course Adele
the hit single Hello. I want to say it was
off her third album. I thought the name of it.
I thought it was a thunder. Trying to get Durant
to reconsider ouch, I will say this, I have one
contention with a lyric in this song. I don't know
if you guys have this contention. And when she says
(13:58):
that that I keep calling but you're not home. My
question for Adele is why don't you try his cell?
Speaker 10 (14:09):
It wouldn't have been as good of a song.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yes, but you know, calling his cell at home.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
But you know what, if she adds cel, she can
rhyme it with you're putting me through hell, And that's
another stanza that's actually a good point.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
My name is Adele, but but wrestling hell in a cell.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Again? Like that song was about like an old love
and she went and she like made it big, and
then she's coming back and she I think she wants
his love. I think that's what it's about. You know
what I love about Adele? And I really do like Adele.
I like that song where the albums, you know how
they were her? They were like her age? Was it
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like when it was like twenty one and then it
was twenty five nineteen I think was another one. I
like that sort of thing because then the next one
you're like, oh wow. I feel like that's a like
a unique thing that it's tough to stick to. But
if you if it's good, like you should so the
next album like it. I just looked up Adele's thirty seven.
She were to put out an album like it should
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be thirty eight. I think that's awesome. I think that's cool.
I like Adele.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I like Adele, but I don't love Adele.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
I wouldn't know that judge by you just singing out
loud the entire song, well, yeah, I think good.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I put my no. She's a great singer and she's
got great songs, but I wouldn't pay to just watch
her sing.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
Who would you pay to watch sing?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Well, like Shakita, but she's gonna dance and she's gonna perform,
and so Adele is just gonna say she's a great voice.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
But so I just you got what I'm saying, Like
it's like I think you're great. I also maybe have
a bias.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Like I heard really horrible things about her while I
was at Universal Studio. Yeah, her, really awful things about
her when she would come and people would take her around.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
So maybe that's why I don't like her as much.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
Sounds like some dirt.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
She just was not a nice person.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
She was not a nice person, and she came frequently,
and the person that always took her around was the
same guy.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
And I'm not gonna say his name because I STI
talk to him, so don't want throw him under the bus.
But he told me he's like she's just an awful person. Wow,
So maybe that's why I don't like her as much.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Should meet her first, and then I don't know you
have I guess you have first hand knowledge, secondhand knowledge, whatever. Yeah, yeah,
I mean what if you met her and she was
really nice to you.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I think people are very telling with how you are
in a theme park and how you handle other workers,
and that's what this person was talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'll tell you why. I will be the worst person
on earth if you catch me at hour five of
a theme park, like, my goodness, just take me home.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, but when you're being driven around and you don't
have to wait in line, I.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Don't think you can't want to be here anymore. I
do not want to be here anymore. No, thank you.
A long long time ago, I went to Disneyland and
it was five o'clock and I said to the to
the the girl that I was with at the time
pre marriage, so are we going? Are we leaving now?
She goes, no, we're here at all ten? And I'm like,
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what it was? It was awful? It was. It was atrocious.
I could understand Adele's Adele's angst after a day at
a theme park that she's been to apparently twenty times.
Dell again, Uh, there's twenty sixteen in a nutshell. No't NFL.
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We didn't get to the NFL.
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Speaker 2 (18:23):
A lot going on in college football as well. We
can look ahead to the season as Week zero is here,
but people are still talking about the punishment that was
handed down to Michigan by the NCAA last Friday. Even
former Ohio State, former Florida, former Utah, former Bowling greenhead coach,
and former Jacksonville Jaguar head coach and now a member
of the Fox Big Noon Kickoff crew, Urban Meyer had
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something to say about the Michigan penalties on the Triple
Option podcast, talking about the penalties that were given to
Jim Tressel at Ohio State when he was let go
because of the Tech two scandal that NFL Commissioner Roger
Goodell handed down a punishment to Tresco that he couldn't
work with the Indianapolis Colts for a number of games.
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It's actually something we had talked about Montsu when these
Michigan penalties came down last week. Urban kind of addressed
that and said that nobody was talking about it. Urban
also talked about the situation in the comments that he
made on The Herd earlier today on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
There was a quote I saw that you said that,
you know, maybe Harbaugh should be suspended in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So clarify that.
Speaker 10 (19:28):
Where are you right now on Michigan Harborn?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
What transpired?
Speaker 11 (19:32):
Yeah, friends sent me that quote. I never said that.
That was a typical media guy saying that. No. I
on a podcast we talked about the penalty and I
brought up I said, do you realize that when Jim
Tressel was fired from Ohio State, he was suspended I
want to say six games. He went on to be
suspended by the Indianapolis Colts. Now, did I say that Jim, No,
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of course not. I didn't say that. Actually, even said that,
you know, I don't think it will, but I threw
that out there because that's a fact, and it was
made clear throughout the that the NFL wanted to at
least respect the decisions made by the NCAA. So no,
I neft answer your question. I never said that, But
that's typical someone's going to put something in the headline
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here Collen and I are talking about that was never said.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I want to urban's right that it was never said.
But he also called it the elephant in the room exactly,
and that's that's saying it, but not saying it absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Those are fighting words. Those are absolutely fighting words. And
don't tell me it's like he just he stirred the pot.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
He's like, what do you talk about? No, I didn't
do anything. Please you absolutely start it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
You wanted to bring this up even though it was
it was a fact of what you're saying. You using
there's an elephant in the room that phrase. And I
haven't listened to the sound This was on the Triple
Option podcast, is my understanding.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, he does that with Rob Stone and mark.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Ingram right exactly. So I haven't heard it. But in
other stories it says that he also says there's an
asterisk on that championship. So if he also said that, no, no, no,
you were definitely stirring the pot. Don't pretend now, no no, no,
stand up, say it with your chest.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think that he's being a politician here. And I
think that this is the thing that is made Ohio
State fans so frustrated with this Michigan penalties, because it's
not just about the rival, Manzi, It's not only about that.
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It is about what happened to the Ohio State football
program fifteen years prior when Jim Tressel was dismissed, And
I think that for something that they feel was less
than what Michigan did, and Ohio State ended up cooperating,
and so to it feels like to Ohio State fans,
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into other football fans, it may feel like it was
fifty years ago, it feels like it was fifteen days
ago to Ohio State fans, And so they feel that
this fifteen year instance or gap whatever between the two
are really not that long and far apart. So they're wondering, still,
why did we get this penalty and why did they
get that penalty? Is the NCAA talking out of both
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sides of their mouth here? Why is one good for
one and not good for the other. I think that's
what makes them mad. And I think that Urban was
talking as the former Ohio state head coach in the
Triple Option podcast. I think when he came on the Herd,
he was talking as Big Noon Kickoff Fox analyst, And
I think that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You're probably right, but the certain choice of words is
not helping that.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
You got what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
You just want them to own it.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, just own it. Even they're like, I'm not saying that,
but you are. What are you trying to point out
that it seems as it seems as though it.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Was more calculated than he's leading on that. Oh, I
was just stating facts.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I'll tell you what, Jerry Jones sometimes has a
weird way of owning things. We're going to talk to
Allis Cowboys right now with our guest Matt Moseley, Foxsports
dot Com columnist of course, Doomsday Podcast Matt Mosley Show,
The Whole Deal. Matt, welcome in, great to talk to
you again. How are you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I'm doing fine? I uh, you know, watching this Netflix documentary.
It's like, you know, it's like your childhood and you're
and and having covered the team for so many years,
it's it's been kind of fun and and and then
of course the it just continues to play out in
real life with this Micah Parsons thing. So I I
(23:46):
think Jerry's waiting until everybody's watched all eight episodes to
get something done. But yeah, it's, uh, it's been fun,
but good to be with you all and appreciate you
mentioning my my various platforms. I've I've now do a
streaming show every day and so it's so weird, like
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I like, I actually have to try to look presentable
and after years of doing radio, that's not that's not
my forthday. So yeah, the camera is not it is
not my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But come on, come on, you're too harsh.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Good to be with you guys, though it is it
is and I.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I do want to. We started the show with
the documentary, so let's just start off there. As you said,
this is this team has been so much a part
of your life, whether personally or professionally. Is is Jerry
trying to pull one over on us? What is the
meaning of this documentary and the timing of it coming out.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Now, Oh no, I mean it's Jerry, so he's he's
just simply you know, collecting more money and whatever. Whatever
Netflix paid for this, I would like add another like
fifty million into it. I mean there's I mean, the
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the whatever he's going to make even on the back
end of this thing. Having been around him for a
long time, it's kind of it is kind of amazing
because I know all these folks, all you know eight
Troy Aikman and Michael's the one I know the best
of all those guys, and like it's just and I
even all these it's just so weird, like these, you know,
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the people you see interviews like del Hanson, I mean
we all grew up watching him and stuff. And like,
I just can't even imagine. Every one of the people
who's been on this, I know, have asked for they
have had. I mean, there's no way they didn't get money, right.
It's like I just keep trying to calculate this thing.
I'm like, how the how much did they pay for
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for all this access that they have all these people on.
But now, Jerry, here's one thing I'll say in Jerry's
favor on this because I watched the Bob Craft. I
watched that one. I watched the Patriots, and I'm sure
there's been several on the Patriots, but I watched the
sort of what was supposed to be the definitive one,
and I actually enjoyed it. But that one was truly
(26:13):
made to in Craft's favor, in his in Jerry's. I mean,
I saw some comments come out today about all these
things just a tribute to Jerry. I mean, yeah, to
a certain extent, but at least Jimmy's getting to have
his say and everybody else is having their say. This
is not even nearly as like skewed and the Patriots
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thing was just a smear campaign of Belichick. At least
this one is. It may be a little bit too
much in Jerry's favor, but most everybody is getting a
chance to sound off. So I think Jerry has totally,
especially in recent months, geared everything to play playing this
(27:00):
whole thing up and the premiere and all of that.
But I would say this one's is way better than
that the Patriots one.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And I will just say this because I said this
to Manzy earlier. It's not called the Cowboys and the Gambler.
It's called the Gambler and the Cowboys. And that's the
only reason why I think it's so about Jerry Jones.
I called it a living funeral. I thought that what
we're going to say about it is how Jerry wants
us to remember it. Moncy wasn't even it couldn't even
remember when the Cowboys won the three Super Bowls, So
(27:31):
this is all kind of new to her. It gives
her a different perspective, and I feel that's what Jerry's
trying to, you know, trying to convince those people who
may not know the history that yeah, he was good
at what he did at one time.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah, but it just it just makes people angrier. It
reinforces how long it's been and how incredible it was,
and to those of us who watched it pretty closely,
I mean Jimmy and his presence and this thing, it
is laughable that like they tried to make Jerry equally
(28:04):
involved in that herschel trade. By the way, I mean
that part of it was just a joke. I totally agree.
Whoever was like, I think it's Pearlman or somebody who
was saying that part of it like Jerry's saying, well,
we got them. We knew we would release those players
and get the pick, like Jimmy orchestrated every bit of that.
(28:25):
But the thing that's kind of like I think's good
that the rest of America can learn about is like,
I don't think people totally understood how I hated this
guy was. Now, of course, now he's hated again for
different reasons, but think about how bad those Landry teams were,
and yet the way this thing went down, like he
(28:46):
ends up. I mean, they do parades for Tom Landry
and Jerry is just hated. I think the thing that
it reinforces is like, man, that ten year period where
the Cowboys were the dynasty of the nineties, they literally
they easily could have won five, They could have won
five Super Bowls, and they got one without Jimmy. The
(29:08):
third was without Jimmy. That was the Switzer came in,
And it's just it's just too bad. It's just it's
amazing like that this was going to be a short
shelf life because of how Jimmy's personality is. But what
we didn't know is how quickly Jerry's ego would get
like completely out of control. And so the whole thing
(29:29):
blew up. And now it was both their faults that
that happened, and as quickly as it did, totally both
their faults. But it's it just reinforces like how hated
Jerry was early and now how remarkable it was how
quickly they flipped it, and how like you can't do
(29:50):
that today. You can't flip a team that quickly, and
you can't, you know, use one player. I mean, that's
weird that, like Hersha Walker is like the greatest maybe
one of the you could argue he's the greatest college
player ever, but like all he's remembered for in his
pro career for the most part, is just being part
of that trade. So yeah, the whole thing has been
(30:12):
kind of a fun thing to reminisce. And I mean,
you know, I'm sorry you haven't gotten to see the
cow I mean thirty years, but I mean that includes
a lot of people who just have no clue what
it was like when this team was good, and they
I mean under Landry by the way, and I'll stop
talking about you guys. You know, this whole thing has
(30:32):
brought back so many memories. I can't I can't eat
people forget, there was a period of time under the
Landry Cowboys where they were going to the NFC title
game every year, and I think at one period it
was like seventeen out of twenty one years they went
to an NFC title game, and they have it sniffed one.
(30:55):
They haven't been to an NFC title game in thirty years.
I mean, it's just amazing, like how far this thing
has fallen.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Well, yes, I'm enjoying the documentary, but let's talk about
the Cowboys of right now.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Michael Parsons, I know you made a comment that you
just think that Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Is waiting for everybody to finish this documentary and then
he's gonna sign. We've seen him give the contracts right
right before the season starts. Any reason to believe that
this doesn't get done the way he's done it before.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Well, I do, since more like resentment and anger from
any of the other players who have held out. Mike
is more emotional than Zeke and Zach and everybody else
who's the CD. He's just much more emotional, and his
(31:46):
presentation and the fact that he's been there these other
holdouts just people weren't there and so it's made the
whole thing more awkward. I think Micah kind of got embarrassed,
and that's what's led to some of the anger. Jerry
tried to do an end around and get the bill done,
you know, in person, and I think Micah kind of
(32:09):
went along with it. And then the agent's like, what
are y'all talking about? Like this is crazy, what are
you even talking about? And so there's some more resentment
than all this stuff. Now that said, there's still like
an eighty twenty there's an eighty percent chance that this
deal gets done the five six days before they go
(32:32):
play the Eagles. I promise you that there's still a
better chance that it gets done than it doesn't. I
just have a hard time, and I know, you know,
all the insiders have put it out there that all
this thing could end up in a divorce and all
that kind of stuff, But like, that's not Jerry's not
comfortable really having like a star player this angry and
(32:55):
letting that happen for two years this year under contract,
next year under franchise tag. Like that's not that doesn't
really fit Jerry's personality. So again, I would say eighty
percent it still gets done and once. Once you pay
the guy forty four forty five million a year, what
(33:16):
do you think he's still gonna be mad. He'll be fine,
He'll be fine. Everybody will move on.
Speaker 11 (33:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Absolutely, Matt Mosley All Things Cowboys, Doomsday Podcast, The Matt
Mosley Show columnists at Fox Sports. We could go on
and on, but we got plenty of time between now
and two weeks from now when they kick off the Eagles. Matt,
we appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
I'll see you, guys. I'll come back after I watched
a few more of these episodes. I may have more thought,
Like I'm waiting for me to show up, right. I mean,
I started covering them in two thousand and three with parcels,
so I have not seen any footage of myself yet.
So I feel like this thing hasn't truly gotten started.
All Right, I'll see you guys.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
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Speaker 2 (34:11):
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You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Isaac
Lorcron has the press.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
The press.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
All right, Dan and Monzy Well. Today, Cleveland Brown's rookie
quarterbacks should Door Sanders was asked for the first time
about the comments made by fellow rookie quarterback Dylan Gabriel
over the weekend. So I'll play you exactly what Shadoor
Sanders had to say. Is he spoke about it with
reporters today.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It is what it is. I spoke with him. He said, Nah, bro,
that wasn't he said, that wasn't he told me on
the plane he came up. He was like, nah bro,
that wasn't at you. I see how they trying to
spend I'm like, oh, I I'm not triping. Regardless of
whatever it was, I don't nobody's words or anything affects me.
You know, So you was on you did I believe him?
(35:32):
I mean, I feel like you're trying to start stuff now.
I feel like you're trying to start stuff. I mean,
he's doing his job he's supposed to.
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Do.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I feel like he did.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I don't know, And that's not on me to sit
here and be like, oh he did, he did it.
That's not gonna change my life in any way.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I mean, I think he handled that right on the money,
good job, Shador.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Interesting because I think that Shador was saying exactly what
we were talked about earlier in the week, and that
it doesn't matter if he meant it or not, like
there is a Chador spectacle. But I'll tell you what,
he went out of his way to not say that
he thought that he believed what Dylan Gabriel had to say, right.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I think when I say he handled that right is
the how he said He's like, you're just trying to
start stuff by asking that question. Because I told you,
I think Dylan Gabriel was talking about Shador, but I
don't think he was trying to say it in a
negative way like everybody else when you and I both
agree that it's like this isn't the point, like we shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Even be talking about this. This is we shouldn't have been.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Talking about this, but we're making it a story because
we are intrigued by this.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
But it has to do with Shador and the and
the show that he comes with.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So I think he handled that right where it's like
you're you're just starting, you just want to start stuff
like he could have.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
He could have, you know, also asked point blank, so
you believe him, and he was like, it's n you
guys are trying to start stuff. That's what he was saying.
And so that's he didn't answer yes or no, right
blame me.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Agrees with me, Dan, I think he does.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I think he does. He agrees with me, so that's why.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah, but I think like he tried to keep
it light, you know what I mean. You could hear
it in his voice. He tried to keep it light.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yes, yeah, yeah. And by the way, he shouldn't have
to be the one to answer it. Because he was
brought into it by the comments, which again goes back
to the point we made earlier this week. Absolutely, you
got a quick one Isaac for us.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
No, that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Maybe not that's it.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
That is it?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The press, the press, I've got one Manci you were
you were up in arms over the Jets in their
secret meeting with head coach Aaron glenn Well.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
When you hear that they wanted to keep it private,
but that it came out because Garrett Wilson told the
social media influencer.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You're like, I'm sorry, what.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
This is?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
The You can't tell anybody, and then they go and
tell one person and.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Tell them you're a social media person.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
And everybody knows it. She's Monty. I'm Dan Dugs back tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Car A happy Thursday, as the final week of the
NFL preseason begins tonight, everything will be wrapped up by
the time we get to Sunday morning. Welcome in. It
is a Thursday, and Mancy, you know what else it is?
It's a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Week zero in the college football season comes up on Saturday. See,
but it's also the final normal weekend before Labor Day weekend,
So it's kind of entering the final weekend of summer.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
No, Dan, summer is going to go into October and November.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We've weather might but your life will not because of school,
because of other commitments. The temperature may say different, the
weather patterns may be different, but your life and your
schedule is about to change after this weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Fine, you make an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It is going to get or feel extra busy soon.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Early Labor Day this year September one.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Yeah, that means.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
September fourth, the start of the NFL season, and that
is two weeks from tonight. It is almost here. Your
long wait since the Eagles were dominating the Chiefs in
Super Bowl fifty nine, Your long wait is almost over.
By the way, that seems like it was six weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
It does it different?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Does I know? Jason Stewart loves the time conversation, But
it does seem like it was just six weeks ago
that we were watching the Eagles dominate and I'm waiting
for Iowa Sam to say Cooper Dejene picking off Patrick
Mahomes and running a back for a touch down. It
does be for I did You're welcome? It does seem
(02:05):
not that long ago.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Speaking of looking back, we always do it at this
time every Thursday. This is the uh, the brainchild of
myself and Jason Stewart in a segment we like to call.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
I don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Jason Stewart, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 9 (02:33):
I'll take it from here. You know what the good
thing about radio is is that there are listeners right
now that are listening to this feature for the first time.
There are also like you know, a different mix of
people working the show today. So I'm gonna just forget
the fact that we've probably done this year three times.
(02:55):
We're just gonna We're gonna redo it. Just like Joe
Dimagio said, there's somebody in the audience that is watching
you for the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Can we reveal a little bit of the curtains since
you and I kind of devised this segment, please, yes.
I had it one way, Jason thought it would go another.
One of the concerns I had about the segment after
thinking about it at first, was we're gonna run out
of years, Like there's only there's like we can't be
like nineteen forty seven now, like like that doesn't what
(03:27):
happened it like it is it relative. Plus I'm in
my late forties, Jason's in his early fifties. We don't
remember necessarily the first couple of years of our lives
when it comes to sports Manzi and Sam weren't even
close to being born at those times, so like there's
still only a window. And when you have fifty two
weeks out of the year and you don't remember fifty
(03:48):
two years of sports were we were always going to
be limited, so there's there's nothing that we can do
about that.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna provide for
you some amazing content in the next five to eight minutes.
Twenty sixteen. I want every listener listening now to go
back to that time. What was I doing in August
of twenty sixteen. I want the five members of this
show on air today to think about what they're doing.
And the reason why I've picked twenty sixteen today is
(04:18):
what happened on August twenty first, twenty sixteen. Well, let
me tell you. The USA basketball team was in Rio
for the Olympics. Kevin Durant was scoring thirty points in
a thirty point win over Serbia in the gold medal game,
and USA when they're third straight gold medal under head
(04:39):
coach Mike Shrzyzhevski, I don't remember a whole lot about
that game down so I went and googled a little bit.
Carmelo Anthony was on that team, Draymond Green was on
that team, and Klay Thompson was a part of that team.
Of course, that was, you know, in the wake of
something that we'll probably also discuss. It was in the
(05:00):
wake of Lebron, James and the Calves defeating the Warriors
earlier on in the summer as they erased a three
to one series deficit. Dan Bayer, what do you remember
most about twenty sixteen in sports?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It is it is that moment Cleveland getting a championship,
because it wasn't It wasn't just about Lebron fulfilling his
promise to the city. It was it was about the city.
It wasn't about the Calves, it wasn't about Lebron. It
was everything to do with what was happening with Cleveland
(05:35):
and the Browns close calls that they had not making
it the Super Bowls and having the drive and the
fumble derail their hopes of bringing a Super Bowl to town.
The then Indians now Guardians had been close a time
or two in winning a World Series and were unable
to do it. Even that later on that year. I'm
(05:56):
sure that we'll get to but it was Lebron bringing
home that idol for the city of Cleveland that I
just say. It's the It was much more than just
Lebron winning his third It was much more than that,
and that's why I think it stands out so much.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
This is for you, So I agree.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Obviously it's the first thing I think about too when
it comes to the NBA. But it was also Kobe's
final year in the NBA and his final game. I
remember sitting there and watching again Laker hater, through and
through Kobe, but I sat there and I watched Kobe
drop what was it, sixty points something on its final game.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I watched the entire game. By the end of that,
I had tears a little tear.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
In my eye because I just was like, I am
never going to watch a player on the Lakers that
makes me feel this way. Kobe I used to hate
watch because he was so good and he constantly made
you know, played well against teams that I wanted him to.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Lose to, and he was so good.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And I remember that I watched the entire game, and
I think the Warriors were playing, and I kept going
back and forth. There we go, there we go, and
I was I kept going back and forth, and then
by the end of it, I was just watching Kobe.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
That's why I remember. I was like, I have to
have to finish. I have to finish watching Kobe because
this is it. I'm never gonna do this again.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And then personally, that was the first time I ran
a half marathon was in twenty sixteen, so much, there
we go, There we go nice.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
Yes, I was working local radio and I got credentials
to go to that Kobe Bryant game, so I could
actually say I was there high above the floor. And
I remember specifically, and we played this on this show
within the last year or two, what Kobe did. He
grabbed the microphone at the end of the game and
(07:51):
he addressed the crowd. And I did not know that
it would hit me so hard, but we replayed Kobe
that ended in Kobe out and drops the mic. What
he says during that speech is so emotional. My goodness.
There was not a dry eye on the show when
we replayed it on specifically got very emotional.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It was a great year of huge happenings. And I
don't even want to leave basketball because I know if
Doug was on this show, he would say the greatest
shot in NCAA tournament history was made. That was Chris
Jenkins of Villanova hitting the buzzer beater against North Carolina
to win the national championship. There are other amazing shots
(08:35):
and some may differ, but I believe I may be
putting words in Doug's mouth, but I don't think that
I am that he considers that shot by Villanova in
winning their first of two national championships the greatest shot
that he's seen in the NCAA tournament of just North
Carolina tying in on a crazy shot, Villanova just running
up court, and then always Jay Wright being so cool
(08:57):
and collected as they win the national championship twenty sixteen
was loaded. And we're not even halfway through some of
this stuff. But even in the basketball world that gets
buried because of all the great stuff that happened in
the NBA.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
That is true. And when I asked Isaac what he's
got for us, he said he what a Smorgasborg shmorgas board.
Speaker 10 (09:19):
Good job, morgas board, getting hungry. All right, we'll start
with I got three Yeah, go ahead, down.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I was gonna say, you're going to Iowa Sam this
and give us like three different things?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Is that?
Speaker 11 (09:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Wow? And so then I was, well, Sam, I'm actually
looking up for you because you haven't gone yet. And
I didn't want Isaac what.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
Actually I'd bequeath my turn to Sam. No, No, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I don't have much to head other than you guys
want me talking about Iowa football in twenty sixteen, No
you don't, so go ahead, Isaac.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
It's all yours, all right.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
I don't remember much from that year.
Speaker 10 (09:52):
I got four quick things. So obviously the Cubs winning
the World Series, that was that year. But twenty sixteen
was also the so of Kevin Durant's free agency and
the Hamptons and signing with Golden State and how it
set the NBA world on fire, and the official announcement,
as I recall, came on the morning of the fourth
(10:12):
of July. In twenty sixteen, as I recall, it was
also the year of the infamous Laramie tunsul Bong incident
just before the NFL Draft. And also, do you guys
remember this phrase, Gia gia j eah? Anybody remember gia?
(10:37):
It was back then the phrase made popular by US
Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte. Remember at the twenty sixteen Olympics,
he and his fellow swim bros claimed they were robbed
at gunpoint at a Brazilian gas station. But it turned
out that that story fell completely apart, and what it
(10:59):
actually what happened was they had in their celebratory stupor
trashed said gas station and were held at gunpoint before
they before they could get away so they could pay
for the damages. So that was the scandaled DuJour. Back
then at the twenty sixteen Olympics, Ryan Lockty and his
(11:19):
Gia in Brazil.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I like a jaw, like a chaw. Yeah, I think, yeah,
I think, Sam, I think you're right chiaw yeah, jew
yeah yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There was a lot happening in the world of golf
at twenty sixteen, and I will piggyback off of Isaac's
mentioning of the Olympic Games. We had the dream team
earlier of the twenty sixteen squad that Jason mentioned now
Ryan Lochte. And it was also the retard of golf
to the Olympic program in twenty sixteen, as the gold
medal was won by Justin Rose. Great year for golf
(11:56):
in twenty sixteen. Jordan Speith blew the Masters d and
he Willet ended up winning it. Dustin Johnson won at Oakmond.
He had quite the showdown between Henrik Stenson and Phil
Mickelson at Royal Troon, just playing magnificent golf down the stretch.
Stinson ends up winning, but because of the Olympics, they
had to move the PGA Championship up a couple of weeks.
(12:16):
Jimmy Walker ended up winning that at Baltus Roll. It
was a arranged the late event. I will add this.
US wins the Ryder Cup in Minnesota, a home Ryder
Cup victory as they were able to redeem themselves. They
had lost previously at Glenn Eagles and then they had
actually lost the last time on home turf at Medina
(12:38):
where they blew a lead on Sunday, so they got redemption.
Patrick Reid and Rory McElroy going head to head. It
was a great scene, good year for golf, really good
year for golf, but maybe just not up to the
level because of how big those other events ended up.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Now the listeners don't know this because they can't see Dan,
but he didn't have any notes in front of him
that was off the top of his head. He's got
every single year for the last forty eight years committed
to memory. When it comes to the golf schedule, not
forty eight but forty seven.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Somewhere Dan could do a golf recap from like nineteen
fifty eight.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Dan is the Steve Hartman of golf.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (13:16):
It's funny you mentioned Justin Rose because I watched an
interview with Justin Rose and golf when he was chipping
and he was practicing. He had one thing in his
in his iPod, and it was this popular song that
hit the charts in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Hello.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Now Mancie's feeling this song. This is, of course Adele
the hit single Hello. I want to say it was
off her third album. I thought the name of it.
I thought it was a thunder. Trying to get Durant
to reconsider ouch, I will say this, I have one
contention with a lyric in this song. I don't know
if you guys have this contention. And when she says
(13:58):
that that I keep calling but you're not home. My
question for Adele is why don't you try his cell?
Speaker 10 (14:09):
It wouldn't have been as good of a song.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yes, but you know, calling his cell at home.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
But you know what, if she adds cel, she can
rhyme it with you're putting me through hell, And that's
another stanza that's actually a good point.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
My name is Adele, but but wrestling hell in a cell.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Again? Like that song was about like an old love
and she went and she like made it big, and
then she's coming back and she I think she wants
his love. I think that's what it's about. You know
what I love about Adele? And I really do like Adele.
I like that song where the albums, you know how
they were her? They were like her age? Was it
(14:51):
like when it was like twenty one and then it
was twenty five nineteen I think was another one. I
like that sort of thing because then the next one
you're like, oh wow. I feel like that's a like
a unique thing that it's tough to stick to. But
if you if it's good, like you should so the
next album like it. I just looked up Adele's thirty seven.
She were to put out an album like it should
(15:12):
be thirty eight. I think that's awesome. I think that's cool.
I like Adele.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I like Adele, but I don't love Adele.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
I wouldn't know that judge by you just singing out
loud the entire song, well, yeah, I think good.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I put my no. She's a great singer and she's
got great songs, but I wouldn't pay to just watch
her sing.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
Who would you pay to watch sing?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Well, like Shakita, but she's gonna dance and she's gonna perform,
and so Adele is just gonna say she's a great voice.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
But so I just you got what I'm saying, Like
it's like I think you're great. I also maybe have
a bias.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Like I heard really horrible things about her while I
was at Universal Studio. Yeah, her, really awful things about
her when she would come and people would take her around.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
So maybe that's why I don't like her as much.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
Sounds like some dirt.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
She just was not a nice person.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
She was not a nice person, and she came frequently,
and the person that always took her around was the
same guy.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
And I'm not gonna say his name because I STI
talk to him, so don't want throw him under the bus.
But he told me he's like she's just an awful person. Wow,
So maybe that's why I don't like her as much.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Should meet her first, and then I don't know you
have I guess you have first hand knowledge, secondhand knowledge, whatever. Yeah, yeah,
I mean what if you met her and she was
really nice to you.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I think people are very telling with how you are
in a theme park and how you handle other workers,
and that's what this person was talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'll tell you why. I will be the worst person
on earth if you catch me at hour five of
a theme park, like, my goodness, just take me home.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, but when you're being driven around and you don't
have to wait in line, I.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Don't think you can't want to be here anymore. I
do not want to be here anymore. No, thank you.
A long long time ago, I went to Disneyland and
it was five o'clock and I said to the to
the the girl that I was with at the time
pre marriage, so are we going? Are we leaving now?
She goes, no, we're here at all ten? And I'm like,
(17:14):
what it was? It was awful? It was. It was atrocious.
I could understand Adele's Adele's angst after a day at
a theme park that she's been to apparently twenty times.
Dell again, Uh, there's twenty sixteen in a nutshell. No't NFL.
(17:35):
We didn't get to the NFL.
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Speaker 2 (18:23):
A lot going on in college football as well. We
can look ahead to the season as Week zero is here,
but people are still talking about the punishment that was
handed down to Michigan by the NCAA last Friday. Even
former Ohio State, former Florida, former Utah, former Bowling greenhead coach,
and former Jacksonville Jaguar head coach and now a member
of the Fox Big Noon Kickoff crew, Urban Meyer had
(18:47):
something to say about the Michigan penalties on the Triple
Option podcast, talking about the penalties that were given to
Jim Tressel at Ohio State when he was let go
because of the Tech two scandal that NFL Commissioner Roger
Goodell handed down a punishment to Tresco that he couldn't
work with the Indianapolis Colts for a number of games.
(19:09):
It's actually something we had talked about Montsu when these
Michigan penalties came down last week. Urban kind of addressed
that and said that nobody was talking about it. Urban
also talked about the situation in the comments that he
made on The Herd earlier today on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
There was a quote I saw that you said that,
you know, maybe Harbaugh should be suspended in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So clarify that.
Speaker 10 (19:28):
Where are you right now on Michigan Harborn?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
What transpired?
Speaker 11 (19:32):
Yeah, friends sent me that quote. I never said that.
That was a typical media guy saying that. No. I
on a podcast we talked about the penalty and I
brought up I said, do you realize that when Jim
Tressel was fired from Ohio State, he was suspended I
want to say six games. He went on to be
suspended by the Indianapolis Colts. Now, did I say that Jim, No,
(19:57):
of course not. I didn't say that. Actually, even said that,
you know, I don't think it will, but I threw
that out there because that's a fact, and it was
made clear throughout the that the NFL wanted to at
least respect the decisions made by the NCAA. So no,
I neft answer your question. I never said that, But
that's typical someone's going to put something in the headline
(20:20):
here Collen and I are talking about that was never said.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I want to urban's right that it was never said.
But he also called it the elephant in the room exactly,
and that's that's saying it, but not saying it absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Those are fighting words. Those are absolutely fighting words. And
don't tell me it's like he just he stirred the pot.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
He's like, what do you talk about? No, I didn't
do anything. Please you absolutely start it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
You wanted to bring this up even though it was
it was a fact of what you're saying. You using
there's an elephant in the room that phrase. And I
haven't listened to the sound This was on the Triple
Option podcast, is my understanding.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, he does that with Rob Stone and mark.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Ingram right exactly. So I haven't heard it. But in
other stories it says that he also says there's an
asterisk on that championship. So if he also said that, no, no, no,
you were definitely stirring the pot. Don't pretend now, no no, no,
stand up, say it with your chest.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think that he's being a politician here. And I
think that this is the thing that is made Ohio
State fans so frustrated with this Michigan penalties, because it's
not just about the rival, Manzi, It's not only about that.
(21:41):
It is about what happened to the Ohio State football
program fifteen years prior when Jim Tressel was dismissed, And
I think that for something that they feel was less
than what Michigan did, and Ohio State ended up cooperating,
and so to it feels like to Ohio State fans,
(22:01):
into other football fans, it may feel like it was
fifty years ago, it feels like it was fifteen days
ago to Ohio State fans, And so they feel that
this fifteen year instance or gap whatever between the two
are really not that long and far apart. So they're wondering, still,
why did we get this penalty and why did they
get that penalty? Is the NCAA talking out of both
(22:23):
sides of their mouth here? Why is one good for
one and not good for the other. I think that's
what makes them mad. And I think that Urban was
talking as the former Ohio state head coach in the
Triple Option podcast. I think when he came on the Herd,
he was talking as Big Noon Kickoff Fox analyst, And
I think that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You're probably right, but the certain choice of words is
not helping that.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
You got what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
You just want them to own it.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, just own it. Even they're like, I'm not saying that,
but you are. What are you trying to point out
that it seems as it seems as though it.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Was more calculated than he's leading on that. Oh, I
was just stating facts.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I'll tell you what, Jerry Jones sometimes has a
weird way of owning things. We're going to talk to
Allis Cowboys right now with our guest Matt Moseley, Foxsports
dot Com columnist of course, Doomsday Podcast Matt Mosley Show,
The Whole Deal. Matt, welcome in, great to talk to
you again. How are you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I'm doing fine? I uh, you know, watching this Netflix documentary.
It's like, you know, it's like your childhood and you're
and and having covered the team for so many years,
it's it's been kind of fun and and and then
of course the it just continues to play out in
real life with this Micah Parsons thing. So I I
(23:46):
think Jerry's waiting until everybody's watched all eight episodes to
get something done. But yeah, it's, uh, it's been fun,
but good to be with you all and appreciate you
mentioning my my various platforms. I've I've now do a
streaming show every day and so it's so weird, like
(24:08):
I like, I actually have to try to look presentable
and after years of doing radio, that's not that's not
my forthday. So yeah, the camera is not it is
not my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But come on, come on, you're too harsh.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Good to be with you guys, though it is it
is and I.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I do want to. We started the show with
the documentary, so let's just start off there. As you said,
this is this team has been so much a part
of your life, whether personally or professionally. Is is Jerry
trying to pull one over on us? What is the
meaning of this documentary and the timing of it coming out.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Now, Oh no, I mean it's Jerry, so he's he's
just simply you know, collecting more money and whatever. Whatever
Netflix paid for this, I would like add another like
fifty million into it. I mean there's I mean, the
(25:07):
the whatever he's going to make even on the back
end of this thing. Having been around him for a
long time, it's kind of it is kind of amazing
because I know all these folks, all you know eight
Troy Aikman and Michael's the one I know the best
of all those guys, and like it's just and I
even all these it's just so weird, like these, you know,
(25:29):
the people you see interviews like del Hanson, I mean
we all grew up watching him and stuff. And like,
I just can't even imagine. Every one of the people
who's been on this, I know, have asked for they
have had. I mean, there's no way they didn't get money, right.
It's like I just keep trying to calculate this thing.
I'm like, how the how much did they pay for
(25:50):
for all this access that they have all these people on.
But now, Jerry, here's one thing I'll say in Jerry's
favor on this because I watched the Bob Craft. I
watched that one. I watched the Patriots, and I'm sure
there's been several on the Patriots, but I watched the
sort of what was supposed to be the definitive one,
and I actually enjoyed it. But that one was truly
(26:13):
made to in Craft's favor, in his in Jerry's. I mean,
I saw some comments come out today about all these
things just a tribute to Jerry. I mean, yeah, to
a certain extent, but at least Jimmy's getting to have
his say and everybody else is having their say. This
is not even nearly as like skewed and the Patriots
(26:38):
thing was just a smear campaign of Belichick. At least
this one is. It may be a little bit too
much in Jerry's favor, but most everybody is getting a
chance to sound off. So I think Jerry has totally,
especially in recent months, geared everything to play playing this
(27:00):
whole thing up and the premiere and all of that.
But I would say this one's is way better than
that the Patriots one.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And I will just say this because I said this
to Manzy earlier. It's not called the Cowboys and the Gambler.
It's called the Gambler and the Cowboys. And that's the
only reason why I think it's so about Jerry Jones.
I called it a living funeral. I thought that what
we're going to say about it is how Jerry wants
us to remember it. Moncy wasn't even it couldn't even
remember when the Cowboys won the three Super Bowls, So
(27:31):
this is all kind of new to her. It gives
her a different perspective, and I feel that's what Jerry's
trying to, you know, trying to convince those people who
may not know the history that yeah, he was good
at what he did at one time.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah, but it just it just makes people angrier. It
reinforces how long it's been and how incredible it was,
and to those of us who watched it pretty closely,
I mean Jimmy and his presence and this thing, it
is laughable that like they tried to make Jerry equally
(28:04):
involved in that herschel trade. By the way, I mean
that part of it was just a joke. I totally agree.
Whoever was like, I think it's Pearlman or somebody who
was saying that part of it like Jerry's saying, well,
we got them. We knew we would release those players
and get the pick, like Jimmy orchestrated every bit of that.
(28:25):
But the thing that's kind of like I think's good
that the rest of America can learn about is like,
I don't think people totally understood how I hated this
guy was. Now, of course, now he's hated again for
different reasons, but think about how bad those Landry teams were,
and yet the way this thing went down, like he
(28:46):
ends up. I mean, they do parades for Tom Landry
and Jerry is just hated. I think the thing that
it reinforces is like, man, that ten year period where
the Cowboys were the dynasty of the nineties, they literally
they easily could have won five, They could have won
five Super Bowls, and they got one without Jimmy. The
(29:08):
third was without Jimmy. That was the Switzer came in,
And it's just it's just too bad. It's just it's
amazing like that this was going to be a short
shelf life because of how Jimmy's personality is. But what
we didn't know is how quickly Jerry's ego would get
like completely out of control. And so the whole thing
(29:29):
blew up. And now it was both their faults that
that happened, and as quickly as it did, totally both
their faults. But it's it just reinforces like how hated
Jerry was early and now how remarkable it was how
quickly they flipped it, and how like you can't do
(29:50):
that today. You can't flip a team that quickly, and
you can't, you know, use one player. I mean, that's
weird that, like Hersha Walker is like the greatest maybe
one of the you could argue he's the greatest college
player ever, but like all he's remembered for in his
pro career for the most part, is just being part
of that trade. So yeah, the whole thing has been
(30:12):
kind of a fun thing to reminisce. And I mean,
you know, I'm sorry you haven't gotten to see the
cow I mean thirty years, but I mean that includes
a lot of people who just have no clue what
it was like when this team was good, and they
I mean under Landry by the way, and I'll stop
talking about you guys. You know, this whole thing has
(30:32):
brought back so many memories. I can't I can't eat
people forget, there was a period of time under the
Landry Cowboys where they were going to the NFC title
game every year, and I think at one period it
was like seventeen out of twenty one years they went
to an NFC title game, and they have it sniffed one.
(30:55):
They haven't been to an NFC title game in thirty years.
I mean, it's just amazing, like how far this thing
has fallen.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Well, yes, I'm enjoying the documentary, but let's talk about
the Cowboys of right now.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Michael Parsons, I know you made a comment that you
just think that Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Is waiting for everybody to finish this documentary and then
he's gonna sign. We've seen him give the contracts right
right before the season starts. Any reason to believe that
this doesn't get done the way he's done it before.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Well, I do, since more like resentment and anger from
any of the other players who have held out. Mike
is more emotional than Zeke and Zach and everybody else
who's the CD. He's just much more emotional, and his
(31:46):
presentation and the fact that he's been there these other
holdouts just people weren't there and so it's made the
whole thing more awkward. I think Micah kind of got embarrassed,
and that's what's led to some of the anger. Jerry
tried to do an end around and get the bill done,
you know, in person, and I think Micah kind of
(32:09):
went along with it. And then the agent's like, what
are y'all talking about? Like this is crazy, what are
you even talking about? And so there's some more resentment
than all this stuff. Now that said, there's still like
an eighty twenty there's an eighty percent chance that this
deal gets done the five six days before they go
(32:32):
play the Eagles. I promise you that there's still a
better chance that it gets done than it doesn't. I
just have a hard time, and I know, you know,
all the insiders have put it out there that all
this thing could end up in a divorce and all
that kind of stuff, But like, that's not Jerry's not
comfortable really having like a star player this angry and
(32:55):
letting that happen for two years this year under contract,
next year under franchise tag. Like that's not that doesn't
really fit Jerry's personality. So again, I would say eighty
percent it still gets done and once. Once you pay
the guy forty four forty five million a year, what
(33:16):
do you think he's still gonna be mad. He'll be fine,
He'll be fine. Everybody will move on.
Speaker 11 (33:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Absolutely, Matt Mosley All Things Cowboys, Doomsday Podcast, The Matt
Mosley Show columnists at Fox Sports. We could go on
and on, but we got plenty of time between now
and two weeks from now when they kick off the Eagles. Matt,
we appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
I'll see you, guys. I'll come back after I watched
a few more of these episodes. I may have more thought,
Like I'm waiting for me to show up, right. I mean,
I started covering them in two thousand and three with parcels,
so I have not seen any footage of myself yet.
So I feel like this thing hasn't truly gotten started.
All Right, I'll see you guys.
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You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Isaac
Lorcron has the press.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
The press.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
All right, Dan and Monzy Well. Today, Cleveland Brown's rookie
quarterbacks should Door Sanders was asked for the first time
about the comments made by fellow rookie quarterback Dylan Gabriel
over the weekend. So I'll play you exactly what Shadoor
Sanders had to say. Is he spoke about it with
reporters today.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It is what it is. I spoke with him. He said, Nah, bro,
that wasn't he said, that wasn't he told me on
the plane he came up. He was like, nah bro,
that wasn't at you. I see how they trying to
spend I'm like, oh, I I'm not triping. Regardless of
whatever it was, I don't nobody's words or anything affects me.
You know, So you was on you did I believe him?
(35:32):
I mean, I feel like you're trying to start stuff now.
I feel like you're trying to start stuff. I mean,
he's doing his job he's supposed to.
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Do.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I feel like he did.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I don't know, And that's not on me to sit
here and be like, oh he did, he did it.
That's not gonna change my life in any way.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I mean, I think he handled that right on the money,
good job, Shador.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Interesting because I think that Shador was saying exactly what
we were talked about earlier in the week, and that
it doesn't matter if he meant it or not, like
there is a Chador spectacle. But I'll tell you what,
he went out of his way to not say that
he thought that he believed what Dylan Gabriel had to say, right.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I think when I say he handled that right is
the how he said He's like, you're just trying to
start stuff by asking that question. Because I told you,
I think Dylan Gabriel was talking about Shador, but I
don't think he was trying to say it in a
negative way like everybody else when you and I both
agree that it's like this isn't the point, like we shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Even be talking about this. This is we shouldn't have been.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Talking about this, but we're making it a story because
we are intrigued by this.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
But it has to do with Shador and the and
the show that he comes with.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So I think he handled that right where it's like
you're you're just starting, you just want to start stuff
like he could have.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
He could have, you know, also asked point blank, so
you believe him, and he was like, it's n you
guys are trying to start stuff. That's what he was saying.
And so that's he didn't answer yes or no, right
blame me.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Agrees with me, Dan, I think he does.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I think he does. He agrees with me, so that's why.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah, but I think like he tried to keep
it light, you know what I mean. You could hear
it in his voice. He tried to keep it light.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yes, yeah, yeah. And by the way, he shouldn't have
to be the one to answer it. Because he was
brought into it by the comments, which again goes back
to the point we made earlier this week. Absolutely, you
got a quick one Isaac for us.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
No, that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Maybe not that's it.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
That is it?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The press, the press, I've got one Manci you were
you were up in arms over the Jets in their
secret meeting with head coach Aaron glenn Well.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
When you hear that they wanted to keep it private,
but that it came out because Garrett Wilson told the
social media influencer.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You're like, I'm sorry, what.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
This is?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
The You can't tell anybody, and then they go and
tell one person and.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Tell them you're a social media person.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
And everybody knows it. She's Monty. I'm Dan Dugs back tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
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