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LSU running back Derrius Guice said he was asked at the NFL if he likes men and Doug thinks we should know the context of the question before we overreact. Doug thinks the popularity of Oklahoma basketball and Trae Young should absolutely matter when you determine if they should get in the tournament or not. Panthers wide receiver Devin Funchess joins the show to talk about becoming the team’s top receiver and if he was asked any awkward questions at the Combine.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Boom One Up America, Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Today, my Friends Basketball Nirvana.
I'm gonna tell you something, tell you something I don't
think people actually know, or maybe they don't believe, but
they will when I'm done. Today is actually the best

(00:23):
day if you're a basketball fan. Today is the best
day of the year. You're like, no way, March madness is.
And look, I've played in and covered the tournament. It's awesome.
I am not in any way trying to diminish the term. Nope, no,
sir uh. But the sheer math of it, the sheer

(00:43):
math of it is fascinating to me. Right, Like, there
are sixteen games on the next Thursday, there are sixteen
games next Friday, and just do the math sixteen sixteen
Do you know any games aren't today? Do you have
any teams played today? In addition to which the teams

(01:05):
are more evenly matched today because they're from the same conferences,
they recruit the same players, they played against each other once, twice,
three times a lady, and he is actually basketball Nirvana.
So I got a ton to get to how it
kind of relates to the Seahawks. How one shot, one

(01:25):
play can in fact completely change a year. It's happening
in college basketball. I'll explain that a little bit later,
but let me get to this story that um, I
think it's I think there's a lot more to it
than is being told. So here's the story out of
the National Football League. We just kind of we just
came off the NFL. We just came off the NFL

(01:47):
draft combine. Was that me or is that you? Ramas? Okay, alright,
no problem, I'll keep moving on. We just came off
the NFL draft combine, and Darius Joyce says he was
asked if he likes men. Um. He said this, according
to a USA Today Sports it was pretty crazy. Some

(02:07):
people are really trying to get in your head test reaction.
I go in a room and a team will ask
do I like men? Just to see my reaction. I
go in another room. They'll try and bring up one
of my family members and something and tell me, hey,
I heard your mom sells herself. How do you feel
about that? Jis did not say which NFL teams asking
the questions. Pro Football Talk sighting source with knowledge situation

(02:28):
confirmed Jis was in fact asked if he liked men.
A question such as that is completely inappropriate and holy
contrary to U League workplace policies. That's what the NFL
said in a statement. And by the way, you can't
ask somebody if they are gay in an interview. You

(02:49):
also can't And this is a hard one. This is
a really interesting one in terms of the workplace and
trying to there's a obviously a growing discussion over um
women in making the same money as men, and women
get in the same some of the same positions as men.
And there's there's two different parts to it. Let's start
with the NFL part. The first thing is one we

(03:12):
don't know if it's in fact accurate, right, because sometimes
you ask a question and it can be taken the
wrong way. Secondly, we don't know the context of the question.
And I bring that up because the name that's often
thrown around is two thousand ten. Then Jonathan's general manager
Jeff Ireland asked des Bryant if his mom was a prostitute. Right,

(03:37):
that sounds like an inappropriate question. Romo, does that sound
like an appropriate question to you? Okay, Ryan Music, does
that sound like an inappropriate question to you? Okay, Um,
can I give you some context? Shore's a context? Right? Um?
Why don't you I'll be des Bryant. Why don't you
ask me what my dad did for a living? Go ahead,

(03:59):
ron us? Um, dads, I just want to know what
did your dad do for a living? He was a pimp?
Asked me what my mom did for a living? And
what about your mom? Dad? She worked for my dad? Okay. Now,
I don't know if there's secretarial, custodial or accounting services

(04:21):
for someone who is a pimp. But when a player
says my dad was a pimp and then says my
mom worked for my dad, in my head and I
don't know how your brain works, but in my brain,
I think, Wait, did des Bryant just tell me that
his mom was a prostitute working for his dad? Is that?

(04:43):
Is that a reasonable correlation to make? Yes? Okay, So
how does that question sound now? Because that was actually
the series of questions that were asked. If you go
back and look, Jeff Ireland said, what's your dad do
growing up? He was a pimp? Would your mom do
grow when you're growing up? She worked for my dad? Wait?

(05:06):
Was your MoMA prostitute? And then he got mad, and
either Dez didn't understand the line of questioning and the
fact that it was a follow up question to his answer,
or he was insecure about whatever the answer was. But
whatever the reason, the truth is that within the context

(05:27):
of the question, it's not a terribly unreasonable question to ask,
what did your dad do? My dad was a pimp?
What did your mom do? She worked for my dad?
Is your MoMA prostitute? Like that's kind of that's actually
a reasonable dinner discussion. I mean, I guess you could say,
tell me more, or you could just say what what? Wait?
What right? Wait? Huh excuse me? So um, The first

(05:54):
thing with the Darius Joyce thing is we don't know
the context of it. We don't know if there were
some questions asked in sequential order to which something he said,
something he responded to made them follow up with my
do you like men? Right? Like if you say, like,
do you have a girlfriend? Nah, I don't like girls?

(06:15):
I and in the girls, are you into dudes? Right?
I mean like, that's actually a reasonable follow up. It
doesn't mean that we weren't going to hire you because
of it. So and there also is this thought that
the entire NFL is homophobic because Michael Sam couldn't make

(06:37):
it in the NFL, and it's a machiese mo league.
It should be pointed out that there are there are
multiple reports that Michael Sam was difficult to deal with,
let alone the fact that he was a borderline NFL player.
And it wasn't just he wasn't that he was homosexual,
it was that he was um and went liken't even

(06:58):
like hourly homosexual. It was he said he was homosexual.
That's how they They had set in a plan in
place to deal with it, and the Rams were actually
chastised for having a discussion on how to deal with it.
Like I think that's a reasonable thing to do. How
can you talk about Michael Sam being homosexual? Like, I
don't know, you're gonna a guy is the first openly
gay NFL player. You have a little meeting and go like,

(07:18):
does anybody have a problem with this? A couple of
guys say, yeah, man, I don't really, I'm really not
that comfortable with it. All right, So like, look, you
shower when you shower? Don't shower? Why showers? Like it's
not that hard, but you have to have a conversation
about it. It's it reminds me a little bit the
unreasonableness of some rules, and we see this in sports
all the time, but it reminds me a little bit

(07:39):
of the idea that you can't ask a woman if
she's married, if she's gonna get married, if she's gonna
have kids, And you might ask yourself, like, why does
that matter when you're gonna hire somebody, Well, it does,
and it doesn't. There is a percentage of women, and
the percentage is lower, maybe than it's ever been before.
There's a percentage of women who when they get married

(08:01):
and they have kids, they're not going to come back
to work. So it doesn't even have to anything to
do with paying for maternity leave, although the maternity leave
can be up to six months and you can actually
get paternity leave now, although very few guys actually do.
It comes down to you look at the person of
The data simply tells you that there's a percentage of

(08:24):
women that once they get married and they have kids,
and they have multiple kids, they ain't coming back to work.
And so while I I understand that there have been
times historically and even times recently where guys pay guys
more than women. They're there. They absolutely positively has happened

(08:47):
where a guy for the same job as a woman
has gotten paid more money. Otherwise these rules would not
be put into place. But that doesn't mean it's unreasonable
to try and at and it's it's actually illegal, But
it is actually reasonable by my estimation to ask a
woman like, what are your future plans in your personal life?

(09:08):
You can't ask about somebody, but you should be allowed to.
Is this where you want to live the rest of
your life? Can't ask that? You know? Who are your dating?
Are you married? You plan on getting married? Do you
want to have kids? How many kids? I think it's
actually just as important to a guy as it is
to a woman. Some people when they want to get married, like, look,

(09:32):
I want to get married and I'm gonna have kids,
But I'm not one of these guys that's gonna spend
a ton of time at home. I want to grind
for you, the same thing to be said for a woman.
But you can't ask about those things. So I don't
know the context of it. Neither do you. But when
I presented to John Rammo's Ryan Music, the context of
the Dez Bryant conversation. It sounded a lot more reasonable

(09:53):
than when you read Hey, they asked if des Bryan's
mom was a prostitute, which sounds completely inappropriate, but in
the context of it, I'm not a crazy question to ask.
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(10:20):
irritated me about elementary school and middle school was class elections. Right,
class elections weren't about who would necessarily do the best job,
who was the most competent. They were always a popularity contest.
The most popular guy would become student body president, even

(10:43):
if he didn't take it seriously, didn't care, didn't want
to help his fellow class made out because at a
very young age, we learned that being popular sometimes is
more important than being good or being nice, being kind,
cruel lesson we in childhood. Should the n c A
adopt that same policy? Oklahoma is floundering, lost by eleven

(11:09):
points to Oklahoma State last night in Kansas City, But
don't we all want to see Trey Young in the
n c A Tournament, Trey Young is more popular and
some some parts more polarizing than any other player in
college basketball. I don't want to see that. Well. Last,
Jerry Palm from CBS the Palm Reader gives us his
thoughts on the current bracket as it is evolving during

(11:29):
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(13:19):
welcome to Jerry Palm, CBS Sports dot Com Senior Writer.
You'll see him on the Selection Show and on CBS
Sports Network all week long at j P Palm CBS
is his Twitter handle, Uh, Jerry, Like, this is actually
my favorite day, I know where how do you work
for CBS is You're supposed to say it's the n
c A Tournament, but more quality games, tightly matched teams,

(13:41):
more basketball, more fun. In all honesty, this is the
best day of basketball season in Uh, well, it's a
very good one because you've got so many teams that
are playing to get into the postseason, and it's you know,
so much at stake in a lot of the games
yes to day, but more today. So yeah, there really

(14:03):
is a level of fund for me, you know, watching
these teams, you know, desperately trying to improve their chances.
All right, let's let's start with the teams that can
no longer help their chances, the Big ten teams that
lost last week, Nebraska and Penn State. As of today,
where do you have them? Um? Not in not close,

(14:24):
No hope really for any of those for either of
those teams. Okay, let's let's let's go to teams that
lost yesterday. Uh, Syracuse lost yesterday in the A c C.
How does that affect their chances? Well, I've got Syracuse
among the last couple of teams in in large part
because of the strip of their schedule this year. Uh.

(14:45):
And they beat a few goods. You know, there's some
good teams, but they've got a they had all of
a very good wreck against better oppositions, which is true
for a lot of teams at the bottom of the bracket.
That's why they're at the bottom of the bracket. Are
trying to get on. UM. But Syracuse, at least for now,
I still have in Sorry, what about Oklahoma? Same? Oklahoma
still uh in strength of schedule again a big factor. UM.

(15:10):
The if the committee you know, back it's almost like
fifteen years ago now when they used to consider how
you played at the end of the year, that's a
team that would really be quite out. But they don't
consider that anymore. And the whole season countsas same. So
Oklahoma's cushioned that they built for themselves at the beginning
of the years elite for the moment. Holding on, Let's

(15:31):
go to the teams that helped themselves yesterday. Let's start
with Oklahoma State. How much did that help? How much
did that boost their chances? Well, they gave him a
chance to play Kansas and that's you know, really what
they need. Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State sitting at eighty five
in the r PI, despite really four pretty good wins,
you know at West Virginia's West Kansas, Texas Tech at home,

(15:51):
still eighty five in the RPI because they're not a conference.
Schedule was so bad and even though they swept Kansas,
they couldn't beat Baylor or Kansas State. Um, actually they
beat Baylor at home. We're having a very different conversation
about Oklahoma State, right or or or or t SU.
You know, that's another team that that's that's something that

(16:12):
I actually ran the numbers. They would be one spot
higher in the RPI if they had just beaten Baylor
at home. Fascinating, but neither those games and not only
they not beat him, the games weren't close. These weren't
even competitive. Yeah. Um, and that's and that's I mean,
that's the thing is that we've got some good wins,
but they they took them like fifteen tries to get
five good wins. And at that and when you have

(16:33):
a really bad non conference schedule, you end up with
an RPI in the mid eighties. And they're actually in
many ways like Syracuse last year yep who who did
not get into the tournament, and yet the year before
Syracuse did get into the tournament obviously made that that
that final four run. Um, All right, what about Louisville
team that one yesterday lost today? The Virginia loss doesn't

(16:54):
kill you? And not really, but but I mean they
could have used the Virginia win a couple a week
and a half when when the uh four point lead
with point nine seconds ago and lost. Where's Louisville hanging
on by a thread? Um? Vulnerable to getting jumped or
having their bid stolen in one of these conferences. You

(17:14):
know where that could happen. And there's still a few
where that could happen. Another team not a very good
record against better opposition. They had something like six or
seven loss Its just the teams in the top ten.
Now three of those are Virginia. But man, and they've
had some chances this year and if they missed the tournament,
they'll be kicking themselves for that Virginia game. Last week,
Alabama just beat Texas A and M in the SEC.

(17:38):
A and M is one of these teams that they've
had so many injuries and suspensions, they still went to
nine and nine in conference. They're kind of a weird
team to figure out. Meanwhile, Alabama has some really good wins,
you know, beating Oklahoma. Yeah, mostly mostly at home. But
now they get an A and M win. Where is
Alabama as of today, Well, Alabama to me entering the

(17:59):
conference tournament, there is now, by the way, eighteen and
fourteen four games above five hundred. In the twenty four
years that I've been doing this, only one team got
an at large bid that wasn't at least four games
above five hundred. That was Georgia in two thousand one,
which was which played twenty seven of their thirty games
against top hundred r p I team. Nobody has schedules

(18:21):
like that anymore. So Alabama's got to win tomorrow just
to have a chance to finish with a good enough
record historically speaking, to get in the tournament. Jerry Palm
joining us is Doug Ollip Show, Fox Sports Radio. So,
so here's a here's a question about Oklahoma. Well, let's
say it it gets down to the wire, and you
and I have been through the selection process. Obviously, this

(18:42):
is something that you do and that you love doing.
Should the idea that America wants to see Trey Young
in the n c A Tournament. I'm not saying it does,
because we know that they do not factor it in,
but should No, this isn't a popularity contest um and
they've shown that over the years. You know that big
name programs, big name players missed the n c Double

(19:04):
A Tournament sometimes when their team isn't good enough. And uh,
I mean, I guess you know big name coaches too.
I mean a lot of people think, well, Jim Beheim
is going to make the tournament because he's Jim Beheim
and he's the number one seed in the n I
t last year. Happened to Kentucky a few years ago.
You know, it's just it's not a popularity concept. You
gotta earn it on the court. Jerry Palm joining us
on the on the Doug got Leaves Show. I tell

(19:26):
people that we we sometimes pay attention so often to
our team to the opponent, try and figure out who's
getting in who's not when what you really need to
figure out is where can you lose a bid on
the board. We there's thirty six at large teams, right,
and you know Carolina or Virginia or Duke who you know,
we don't know, we know where about twenty five of

(19:47):
them are going well, we don't know the But you
lose one of those. If a mid major or nonpower
five that we believe is getting in regardless loses St. Mary's,
for example, at b Y U one that tournament b Y,
you would have taken one of the book of St.
Maryzing and Zagar are getting in UM. Is Middle Tennessee
State safe if they lose in the tournament? I think

(20:10):
it depends on who they lose to. I don't think
they can lose the Southern midst tonight and feel too safe.
But if they get to the point where they're losing
to Old Dominion or Western Kentucky, then yeah, probably safe.
What about Nevada They're currently taking on un l V.
If Nevada loses to U and l V for a
second time this year, are they safe? Yeah? And Nevada
is getting in UM and then another conference I don't

(20:31):
know where you could see that is the Atlantic Ten,
which has got Rhode Island comfortably in St. Bonaventure's a
bubble team. But if somebody like Davidson stepped up and
won that league you could see three possibly from the
A ten and another bid gets stolen. Oftentimes there's like
one surprise team or two surprise teams. Who who get in? Um?

(20:53):
Who's the team that you have your eye on that
other people are not paying attention to? Do you like,
look this team, I'm gonna wake up Sunday morning, it
is probably gonna be in the bracket? Hmm. I don't
know about teams that other people aren't paying attention to. UM.
Maybe somebody likes Stanford. Who you know in the Pac twelve,
which has basically been Arizona and a bunch of stiffs

(21:13):
this year by and large, you know somebody who gets
hot and they've got some talented guys and maybe a
guy who could at least play a little bit with
DeAndre Ayton. Uh. Stanford is a team that if they
won that league, it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. I mean,
and remember Stanford didn't have Um their starting point guard
and and Dorian Pickens Um at the start of the year.

(21:34):
It's like one of the reasons they started so poor
they didn't have two of their five starters. Right, how
much of the how how hard is that in terms
of the math with players who are out for Notre Dame,
for example, how do you evaluate Notre Dame. Well, it's
you can't just ignore the games they played without it.
They happened. That's part of who you are. And it's

(21:55):
assumed that they would have won some of those games
if he played. If you look at Notre Dame, we
you've gotta be careful not to were rate what Notre
Dame did before Colson got hurt. They were ten and three.
They beat which toss Date great win to win the
Maui Invitational, but they lost at Michigan State badly. They
lost at home to Ball State with Bondi Colson. They
lost in Indiana before he got hurt, so they was

(22:16):
they weren't tearing up college basketball before he got hurt.
Now he's back there playing, it gets a little better.
But I mean, they had to come from way behind
last night and they did it, which was great. But
I think if they don't beat Duke, it's hard to
put him in the tournament. Okay, so they have to
they have to beat Duke in order to get in.
I think. So yeah, I call those thunder dome games, right,

(22:37):
you gotta be you gotta be the one team that
leaves in order to get in. Are there any of those? Like,
if Okloma State beat Kansas, They're up three nothing to
start the game. Oklooma State beats Kansas, are they automatically in?
Not automatically, but it certainly is a much better case
than if they don't. If they don't, they have no shot.
Texas on Texas Tech. If Texas wins the game, are
they in? Yeah? I think so, and UM and Texas

(22:59):
might even be in if they lose. Uh. And again,
that's the strength of schedule thing. They've They've done a
really good job uh playing in and out of conference schedule.
I mean, obviously the in conference is the best league
in the country, but they played a good non conference
schedule too, And they've done enough I think to get
in possibly even if they lose today. Baylor struggled in
the non conference. We mentioned they swept Oklahoma State. They

(23:19):
do have some wins that beat beat Kansas late in
the year. As they've gotten healthy, they play West Virginia.
Are they a win and in team? I don't know
about win today. I mean the thing about Baylor's there's
some sort of historic statistical indicators. Baylor's ten in thirteen
against the top three quadrants. Nobody's ever gotten in with
a record that bad. That means they'd have to win
twice just to do better than that. So I think

(23:42):
they probably have to win at least twice. Well, that
would put them in the Big twelve championship games. So
we'll see. Jerry, great stuff. You can fall m online
CBS Sports dot Com or foam on Twitter as well.
Thanks so much for join us. Tell everybody over there,
I said hello and appreciate you being our guest in
Fox Sports Radio. All right, take care, all right, Jerry
Palm from CBS Sports joining us. It's always fascinating, always

(24:03):
fascinating to to watch the different ways in which it's
hard to evaluate. And he makes a great point about
Notre Dame. It's like, look, it wasn't like they were
twenty and one and they lose their best player and
all of a sudden they fell apart. They were okay,
and they lost the best player, and they were a
little less than okay and not good enough to make
the tournament. And now they've won two games. One was
Wake Force, the other ones that come back against Virginia Tech.

(24:24):
I think Notre Dame is good enough, and I personally
think they're good enough to get in and and um,
I do think the Colson thing that he is their
best player. We don't know how it would have gone,
but my guesses would have been they've been above five
hundred above water in the in the A c C.
But it's always we we tell people were kind of
a lot of people. We tell them there's these metrics

(24:46):
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the place to be today if you're a college basketball fan.
Not only is Michael Porter Jr. About to make his
return for the Missouri Tigers, as they had two minutes,
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of Missouri fans in St. Louis, they had quite an
appetizer earlier today, Sexton at one God, God, God, Collin Sexton,

(25:35):
they have saved the season for the time. As you
and Jerry Palm just discussed. Alabama gets that seventy one
seventy victory over Texas a at M. Chris Stewart from
Learfield on the call. So the Crimson Tide advanced to
the quarterfinals of the SEC Tournament. In the a C
C Quarterfinals, Virginia beat Louisville seventy five to fifty eight.
Right now, Clemson leads Boston College forty three to thirty six,

(25:57):
just underway in the second half. Earlier today in the
Big twelve quarter five donals, Kansas State got past TCU
in overtime sixty six to sixty four. Well, Oklahoma State
in Kansas are just tipping off Big East quarterfinals. Xavier
picked up a win against St. John's today to sixty
for the Musketeers, while Crighton leads Providence thirty to twenty six.
At the half Pack twelve quarterfinals. Colorado and Arizona not

(26:19):
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I love it. I I agree with you. This is

(27:03):
and even tomorrow, Doug is not as heavily weighted because
with the conference tournaments that are ending on Saturday, they'll
put most of the semifinal games at night, So today
you have just like all quarterfinal and second round games
where tomorrow is actually even gonna be a little lighter
than what you've got today. Today is really the pure madness. Yeah,
we we have it. We have a tendency to kind

(27:23):
of lock in on and look at being in Oaklahoma state. Alum,
some of my friends I follow on Twitter and they're
just going crazy about like, you gotta think outside of
your little silo there, guys, you know, like U C.
L A. Stanford. Also teams that have had mercurial years
US for example, as that big win over Arizona on
the road. Um, I do think that that injuries play

(27:43):
a bigger factor in trying to evaluate these teams. Missouri's
taken on Georgia right now, like and I think Missouri's
probably already in the n s A tournament, but this
is gonna dramatically change for the better their seed and
doug if if they win the tournament, which which would
be in front of a home crowd. There's no doubt
they're gonna have a home crowd. But if they could
win that, do you put it all on Michael Porter's shoulders?

(28:04):
Do you put how much do you put off playing
in front of your home fans. That's it's tough to judge,
it really is. Um yeah, I I it's it's it's
tough to judge, but it's look end of the day,
all these I I tweeted this out. Did you see
the meme I tweeted earlier about with major with the
major league, Lou Brown, there's only one thing left to do,

(28:26):
remember you know what? You know what the line is, right, yes,
win the whole leffing thing. Like look, if you want
to play the ns A tournament, like you could actually
win your conference tournament and then doesn't matter. Like to
tell Oklahoma State like they're they're taking on um Kansas
right now. They're down eleven to eight in Kansas City, Udoka.
The big centers not playing for Kansas Kansas probably gonna

(28:46):
play six guys all day. Malik Newman's got nine already.
I'm watching this game, like, look, if you wanna play
the NA Churaman, just be Kansas. There you go. Pretty
strong statement, probably in probably in the popularity thing is
you know we we we stay away from it for

(29:06):
a long time. Okay, we stay away from for long.
We're like, well, you know, we shouldn't make it about that.
But when push comes to shove, is it crazy to go?
You know, I don't really doesn't bother me if Oklahoma
gets in because Trey Young is exciting, like I saw yesterday,
somebody said, well, what a disaster of Oklahoma is up

(29:26):
in the first four for who? For who? You get
a san chancey Tray Young, I mean, heck, have Oklahoma
take on Alabama. Wants a cup more games? Have Oklahoma
take on Alabama? Tree Young context and two to likely
first round draft picks going at it in Daton in
the first four, like why not? Why not? U? That's

(29:53):
always been my thing, That's always been my my belief
in it. And the interesting thing about the fascinating thing
really about out the Oklahoma deal is this, Oklahoma should
have beaten Oklahoma State in Stillwater. They're up three waning
seconds like ten seconds ago, and Trey Young was supposed
to foul and he did not foul. He missed trying

(30:14):
to foul up three Oklahoma State buries at three try
Young mrs goes overtime, they're losing overtime. He takes thirty
nine shots, scores forty eight points, and and from then
became that kind of the precipitous decline of Oklahoma. And
I was thinking about yesterday was the beginning. I mean,
it wasn't really the beginning, but it was the public

(30:38):
divorce of the Seattle Seahawks Is that a fair Ryan Music?
Is that a fair way to to say? I'm trying
to think of what yesterday was was akin to where
we learned Richard Sherman, if not traded, going to be released,
Michael Bennett likely to be traded, could possibly be released
when that came out, I'd say that's the kin too.
And I don't know if it's divorce at the turning

(31:01):
of the page from that from the Legion of Boom
or as it was previously constructed Legion of Boom to
whatever they're gonna be this year. That's what yesterday was.
I mean, it was something we knew what was gonna happen,
We talked about it, but then yesterday was a reality. Right.
So is that how would you how would you determine it?
How'd you explain it? I think that's pretty fair to
say that the long awaited end to the Legion of

(31:25):
Boom is slowly starting to happen in front of our eyes. Yeah, look,
I so so. But the tipping point of it, the
tipping point of it was when they decided to throw
the football instead of running the Super Bowl, right, I mean,
isn't it. I Mean, look, the crazy part about it

(31:46):
is I thought that Bill Belichick made a mistake not
allowing Seattle to score. Obviously, Seattle double down that mistake
by running a play around the gold line that they
liked to run in that situation. In Malcolm Butler reddit
a new the found formation in addition to which Russell
Wilson threw the ball high. Now, part of it was
he had to throw it high because he's little. Part

(32:07):
of it is he threw it high because he just
threw it high. I mean, you know, any one of
a number of things happened and the Seahawks win the game.
But the but the narrative is how you didn't run
the football, you didn't hand it to Marshawn Lynch. And
what was already a divided locker room in terms of

(32:28):
Russell Wilson versus the dudes, right, the rest of the
guys like not really into Russell Wilson. It was like
a crack and it became a crevice. It became a
canyon between the offense and the defense. That was the
beginning of the end of the relationship between Marshawn Lynch
and the Seahawks. That was the beginning of the end

(32:51):
in the relationship between Daryl Bevel and the defense to
where Richard Sherman called them out. Even going forward to
the next year, that was the moment. At that same
moment we saw in college bassbo Oklahoma up three, still
doing well. This year, Trey Young doesn't foul, Oklahoma State
hits a three ties, the game beats him in overtime,

(33:13):
and the rest of as they say, is history. There's
there's a a lot of times we talk about teams
and moves and all this series of things that can happen,
series of things that can happen. Sometimes one play changes
the season, change the franchise forever. You gotta get to
Hooters and try to do smoke wings. It's told the

(33:34):
way to crave wings with all the taste, half the calories.
You can eat twice as many at Hooters. Guess who
plans on sitting out Week one of the NFL season.
I will tell you next. Broadcasting live from the studios
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side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. M damn, buy what

(34:39):
you got? The game today is all right? Guests who Doug? Guests?
Who got fired today? In college basketball, Kevin Stalin's Yeah,
Pitt was installing to dismissed their head and a t
to the a CEC this season, lost their first round
game in the a CEC tournament. Kevin stalling out at pit. Yeah,

(35:02):
it's crazy. They're cann pay him nine point five million
dollars to not coach. Of course they're trying to fire
him for cause. Uh but uh, you know interesting that
um um pits not. You can try and get out
of it. And he was actually in nineteen and lost
a CC tournament. Uh. But you know, there's a lot
of big names that they're going to go after. And
the question becomes one it's pit that was probably a

(35:23):
better fit in the Big East, and two it's pit
that now they spent nine a half million to get
rid of their coach, how much would they spend on
a new coach and a fascinating to watch Guess who
Doug the San Diego Padres are thinking about signing to
their pitching staff, Randy Johnson, I have no Jake Arietta. Yes,

(35:45):
it's still out there as a free agent. By the way,
we could do a guest who the Padres opening day
starter would be. It would be Clayton Richard right now.
But the there's a report from fan Rake Sports that
says Jake Arietta could be in play for the Padres
is that look to upgrade their tation. I just like,
I'm just sorry. I have a tough time buying the Padres,
no matter how much that whether they signed Hasmer last week,

(36:08):
it's like, okay, this is like you need to get
the house and like, you know, we're gonna put a
really new TV in nice TV. You know, No, you
need to you need to get your house and read
to your kitchens, like no, no, no no, We're gonna get
better furniture. It's kind of feels like we have no
carpeting or flooring, but this recliner is so comfortable, or
no TV as well. Guess who Doug won't take part

(36:30):
in another home run derby? John Carlos Stanton, No, Aaron Judge. Yeah.
The Yankees outfielders speaking on C. C. Sabathia's podcast, probably
says it's one and done for him in the home
run derby. Of course he went through that slump in
the second half of the season last year. Look as
long as you do it, as long as you do

(36:51):
it that that you know, I'm okay with it, as
long as you do it once. And I still bothered
by the fact Lebron didn't didn't try the dunk contest right,
Like it's kind of like a write of passage. Dr J.
Michael Jordan's, Uh, Kobe was in it, Like like, what
do you really have to lose? I guess the dunk
contest guests who dug in the NFL says he won't

(37:14):
show up to work until week one of the NFL
season if he doesn't get a long term contract. Yes
it is. The Steelers running back on a live Instagram chat. Well,
ye have this to say that if he'd sit out
this season quote honestly, no, I'm not going to sit out.
I'm going to be in the facility week one. It's
gonna be a rerun of last year. I'm not going

(37:36):
to training camp. I'm not doing nothing else. Extra O,
t A S, none of that. End quote from Levy
on Bell right. I mean, look, he told us the
same thing. But like, if you want to be with
the franchise long term, and like you really want a
long term deal, why wouldn't and they I don't. I

(37:56):
kind of think this is backward logic. You know, I
want to be the the running back for the Pittsburgh Shows.
I wanna play enough for another team. Won't you be
a long term deal? Once you show up for ods?
And again, I know you don't have to in order
to know it is a new offense or a new
offensive cording anybody, same offense, different calls, But why wouldn't

(38:17):
you show up? Hey, you don't have to do any
contact drills once we put put shells on. But what's
what's wrong and showing up? I disagree with this tactic.
I think sometimes you gotta give a little bit to
get more. Guess who dug a keep to Leave wants
the Brocos to trade him too. There's reports that Denver
is shopping the veteran cornerback. Where does it keep to Leave?

(38:37):
Want to go? New England? Yes, back to the New
England Patriots. Apparently the Patriots one of the teams talking
about possibly acquiring to Leave in a trade. M hm,
And I guess the question, Like one of the things
that about the Broncos defense is we think of the

(38:57):
no fly zone and the defensive pass for us being
as good as it used to be. But I don't know,
I don't know. I gotta stop the run as well,
get that interior defense going. That can help a couple
more for you, Doug out, Oh, guess who on the crew?
His birthday it is today? Yes, happy birthday to Ryan

(39:20):
celebrating his birthday on March eighth. I'm not even sure
how old Ryan is? What was it fourteen today? Is
that what it is? What is the actual age? All right, Doug?
We have a big cake for him here. It's delicious.
John's wife Suzanne cooked it last night, baked it. No
guess who? Guests who on the crew? Dog accidentally brought

(39:45):
three week old carrots and celery to work earlier this
week than it is. That was too easy? Dog can
that really fast? Oh? It out there and pressed get
out there in game time, that this is game time.

(40:06):
On the Duck Gottlieb Show, it was those carrots and Celery.
Yeah he's not doing too hot right now. Um. Oh,
you know what's funny. We do this thing. We do
this thing in sports to which I don't know we
want to prisoners at the moment, but we say crazy stuff.

(40:27):
And I tweeted something out yesterday to which there's a
Magic Johnson kind of highlight reel, and what my my
tweet was basically like, we have a tendency to say
that Lebron James is one of the greatest pastor, that
the best pastor to ever play in the NBA, and
like he's not even the best passer currently in the NBA.
What he is is for a great player, he's almost

(40:48):
as good as any great great score. He's probably as
good a passer as there's been. I thought Bird was
a better passer. By the way, this is created quite
the Twitter conversation Bob Ryan hopped in, Um, you forgot somebody. Lebron,
great as he is, remains the second best passing forward.
There was this guy named Bird, which is what I
said last week on TV. But we we have this

(41:10):
thing that we do to which we assume that we
have to say, not only is Lebron the best player
in the NBA, the best pastor any like. No, he's not.
He's just really good at everything he does except maybe
as a jump shooter. He's very very very much up
and down, very much up and down. And we got

(41:30):
a lot to get to. Speaking of Lebron, anybody here
what he said last night after the game. Does he
believe it? Or is he simply trying to negotiate his
terms in his next deal. We'll play it for you
next on The Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What
Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm sorry if I'm

(41:53):
interrupting your day, you're interrupting my day too. That's really
how I feel out here, Like I'm I'm gonna apologize
to you because there's so much good hoop going on,
so much good hoop that, um, I feel like it's
getting the way. If you're going to see a basketball game,
or you're going to a sports bar, or you want
me to just bring in Dan Buyer and have Dan

(42:14):
Buyer rundown all the scores constantly. Arizona is up three
un l V is up thirty nine one on the
Wolfpack of Nevada. That is bad news, by the way,
for you, bad bad news. It's bad news because if
you have a bubble team, Nevada is getting in that
would take away a bubble spot from your team. Bad news,

(42:37):
not good. Wouldn't be good at this juncture now, but
not so. We'll keep an eye on the ReBs and
the pack. Um. Do you guys ever do the I
also also think that sometimes I grew up foreign to
other people. My my way of growing up was so foreign. Um.
I used to take get out of school the first

(43:00):
Thursday and Friday the n S A tournament, go to
a sports bar with my dad and watch the games. Anybody,
did you guys do that? In my music on your birthday?
Is your birthday? Happy birthday? Ryan? Um you ever do that?
Did you ever do that? No? I did not. I
would only just watch the games. Have you guys ever
done the nickname game? Were you just try and just
run down school's random nicknames? You try and quiz each other?

(43:20):
Did you do that as kids? No? The only The
only one I did by that is trying to guess
which of the schools um mascot is not plural. Wow,
I like that one. Nevada wolf Pack. There you go, boom.
Stanford Cardinal Cardinal Stanford Stanford Cardinal. Um. People think that

(43:43):
cardinal means like a bird, and it's not. Now Stanford
used to be the Indians, and so PC want to
change their name and they picked the cardinal like the
color cardinal. And then their mascot is a tree, which
makes no sense, but that's because of Stanford. Missouri Kansas
City has taken on Grand Canyon. Ramos, Are you familiar

(44:06):
with Missouri Kansas City's nickname. It's a good one. I
am not. It's the kangaroos Grand Canyon. That's Grand Canyon's
coached by Dan Marley. Remember thunder Dan Dan Marley, So
he's the coach at Grand Canyon. That's a for profit university,
and I'm sure if you guys are aware, there's a
difference there. Like most universities are nonprofit, there are for

(44:28):
profit university Anyway, Grand Canyon their nickname the Antelopes. Antelopes,
which for Grand Canyon is a great name, like Grand
Canyon Antelopes just seems to makes sense. The only problem
is that Grand Canyon is located in Phoenix. There's no
Antelopes and Phoenix. Nor is the Grand Canyon actually in Phoenix.
It's not even close anyway. I digress Lebron James Um.

(44:51):
They won last night, and I guess that's kind of
the big news, right, is that the Cavaliers, who are
on a road trip, they come out and play the
Lakers anything. On Sunday a Cavs won one thirteen, one
oh eight. Lebron had an incredible game. I mean truly
incredible game. He had thirty nine points, He was five
of eight from three point range, he had eight rebounds,

(45:15):
and Tennis has only three turnovers. Should be pointed out,
who's only a plus eight. Some of that is that
the Denver Nuggets are pretty good. They just are. They
have Yokich is continues to be the best player. I
was watching with a friend at a sports bar after
my brother's Organ State game, and I was in Vegas
last night and I was like, do you know who
that is? And there's like three guys like I have

(45:36):
no idea who that is. It was like, that's yokich like,
and I was like, he's the best player in the
NBA that mainstream fans don't know anything about. Yokich had
thirty six thirteen rebounds and six assists, did have five turnovers.
They lost, But it's something Lebron said afterwards, which is
kind of food for thought. Take a listen, how would
you describe for your games that right now, probably at

(45:58):
all time because of body of my mind, the way
I go out approached the game. And then I'll just
grace God giving me an ability to do this. So
and I'm blessed and not I'll never take it for granted.
M hm. So are we gonna take him at his word? Like,
this is the best I've ever been, This is peak
Lebron James. It's possible, possible, this is the best I've

(46:21):
ever been because my mind, my body, He's been incredibly efficient,
like Lebron shooting the ball well even though he's not
that good a shooter, because he's taking better shots. There's
a continuum with athletes. So at one end the continuum
is the athleticism you have that in your younger years.
The other is the the sports i Q which you

(46:43):
develop over time. And Lebron has always been, always been
a bright player, always, always, always, But in the continuum
um at some point they meet and the question becomes,
is this the point where they're meeting or have they
previously met? And he's actually on the downside of his career,

(47:05):
only he's hiding it with efficiency, with intelligence, with the
fact that rules are set up to help it. He
feels great. Remember, he's also coming off a great game,
but he's been having a series of great games. We
have to at least also offer up the possibility here's
the here's what we have to have also have the

(47:27):
possibility that Lebron James might be trying to set the
narrative for why you should pay him for four or
five more years. Right, because as good as Lebron is
and he's incredible, it's thirty three years old. His next
contract will take him to when he's thirty eight years old.
And outside of guys on steroids, guys don't get better

(47:47):
at thirty eight years old, and they were at thirty
three thirty four years old. So whether he's peaking now
or he's previously peaked and he's simply hiding it with
incredible efficiency and the fact that the NBA you know
half of these teams are trying to whose games anyway.
Can we at least ask the possibility is he just
trying to Is he trying to say, Hey, I'm worth it,

(48:11):
I'm worth you going after me for four years? They're
going to anyway, They're going to anyway. It's funny. I
went and I saw his stats, and I'm not a
big like State nerd guy, but I looked at Michael
Jordan's and we remember that Jordan's last year and he
was starting to fade a little bit. The league was

(48:32):
much more rugged, he was smaller. Um, he did lead
the league in scoring when he was thirty three, but
when he was thirty three that was close to peque
Jordan's thirty two was probably Remember he he took a
year and a half off in the prime of his
career to go play baseball, and so kind of like

(48:53):
Muhammad Ali who lost those couple of years because he
didn't want to go to the War draft, kind of
like Mike Tyson who lost the prime of his career
because he was convicted of rape. Michael Jordan gave away
at least a year year and a half of the
prime of his career. Remember before he left for baseball.

(49:14):
Michael Jordan led the league in scoring, lad the league
in steals, his team won an NBA championship. And oh yeah,
by the way, he had one of his best years
shooting the basketball from three. He had incredible year shooting
the free ball, the free to the line, and he
had his best year rebounding the basketball as well. He
was at his peak. So does it stand to reason

(49:37):
that Lebron is peaking a little bit later even though
he started his NBA career a little bit sooner. I
don't know. Look, I think part of it is you
come off a game where you play great, you feel great,
everything was going in. You're like, man, this is the
best I've ever felt, and the reality is the next day.
Some of it's helped out, but the fact that the

(49:57):
NBA has done a better job of scheduling with the
lengthen season. Some of it has to be Lebron convincing
himself I'm smarter, therefore I'm better. And some of it
is this continuum to which yeah, he's probably lost a
step athletically, but he's gained a state step mentally. But
if you think for one second, Lebron James isn't going

(50:18):
to age, and it's going to age much more gracefully
than anybody else. I can only give you a thousand
of the best basketball players ever, and once they hit
thirty five, it starts to go downhill. And here's the
guy with a lot more tread worn off the tires
because he started his NBA career earlier than anybody else.

(50:38):
H I think he's been incredible, you know. I think
what what happens in this thing is when um, when
I say I don't think Lebron is the greatest player
of all time, it gets turned around as you don't
think Lebron is good. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I just think I've seen other players be better in

(51:00):
some bigger situations. And his style of play, though he
does like to pass, like basketball has always been giving
the ball, Give the ball the best player and he's
gonna make a play at the end of the game.
And Lebron is kind of a guy who had times
defers and we haven't seen that. But whatever, you whatever
your perspective on Lebron. Greatest player ever, second greatest player ever,
Top five player ever. We're talking about hundreds of thousands

(51:23):
of NBA players, and he's in the top five. It's
not like you're defaming his name. I hate that part.
I hate that way of looking at things. Or if
you don't say somebody's best, you're essentially saying he sucks.
And that's not at all. What was said. Is he
at it is he had his peak, probably not physically
but mentally. I don't think it's crazy to say mentally.

(51:43):
I don't think it's crazy to say that he's seen everything,
done everything two times over. As conditions on the field change,
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(52:07):
really good. But we'll peaque Lebron. If this is peak Lebron.
Does that mean he can take him home to an
Eastern Conference championship? We'll see. What will the new look
Seahawks look like? No, Michael Bennett looks like No. Richard
Sherman could be something new. No. No. Jimmy Graham Jason
Lacking for a CBS NFL insider will join us upcoming

(52:29):
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(52:51):
Doug Gotlic Show, Fox Sports Radio, Great Day of Hoop.
Providence up on Craighton at the Big East Tournament by
one with five and change to go that of course
on Fox Sports one. Ken State ball State one point game,
UMSS George Mason one point game, Arizona up six on Colorado,

(53:14):
un l V up four on Nevada, The Kangaroos of
um Casey up to on Grand Camp My point is
Montana and North Dakota. Montana won the Big Sky Tie Game,
tie Game, the Big Sky Championship fifty seven or twelve
thirty to go. Oklahoma State down one to Kansas at
the break Man all close game. Crazy, great day of

(53:34):
college hoop. But there's some huge news in the National
Football League and he's joined us throughout the seasonal join
us about the offseason. He does an incredible job over
at CBS Sports. He's Jason law canfora he joins us
and h Jason. What we heard of the Seahawks not
surprising that Michael Bennett's gonna be gone, Richard Sherman's gonna
be gone, Jimmy Graham's gonna be gone. But I think

(53:55):
we we thought, we assumed all of these things would happen.
I guess the question is what do the newly constructed
Seahawks look like going forward to next year. That's a
good quition. I don't know that John Snyder and Pete
Carroll couldn't answer that one quite yet. Um, But certainly
there's a reallocation of resources. There's asset um arrangement, shuffling

(54:20):
the deck and and really taking from what was the
very rich, which was the legion of boom and giving
to the poor, which is right now if you look
at the roster offensive line, tight end, wide receiver, especially
if they lose Paul Richardson and Jimmy Graham as as
I would expect in free agency. So they've got some
some work to do there. The one thing I will say, though,

(54:42):
is they did a heck of a job finding most
of the legion the boom Um and and sort of
other than Earl Thomas and not the usual spots, whether
it's a fifth round or you know, they brought in
guys like Brandon Brown or Jeremy Lane. They've they've managed
to do a pretty good job of of having certain
metrics that they look for in their corners and their
safeties that served them well and allowed them to draft

(55:06):
well and find that talent. And they're going to have
to do that again. Um you know Michael Bennett. Yeah,
they need pass rush, but they also need eleven million
in cap space. And you know, he's well past the
age of thirty now, and they've got Frank Clark and
some other young guys they think are coming on and certainly,
uh look for them to be interested in the Mohammed
Wilkerson or somebody like that, and they wouldn't like to

(55:27):
keep Sheldon Richardson. Richardson and Wilkerson are both on the
right side of thirty, um by several years. So yeah,
the the I guess you this kind of jarring though
when it actually happens and you know it's coming and
you're writing about it, you're telling people if these guys
are on the block and they won't be back and
they're going to get rid of Richard Sherman unless you
think them as if they cut but once they're actually
out the door, considering all that they've meant to that

(55:49):
that organization, and what a role they played in the
first and only Super Bowl Lombardi Trophy. There, it's uh,
it's it's it is the finality of it. I think
is kind of rocked people a little bit there. Jason
Lackham Forward joining us on the Doug gotlip so, Yeah,
it is. It's amazing on I think we thought this
this day was coming, and of course it did essentially
come and go, uh, come and go. Yesterday, There's been

(56:10):
a lot of discussion about what Darius Joyce said that
he was asked at the combine, and I kind of
I went back to the you know, the famous Dez
Bryant you know, question and answer from from the old
Miami Dolphins gentlemanager, where like, look, I don't you don't
like asking a player if his mom was a prostitute.
But apparently, you know, he asked you. It was asked,

(56:34):
what what does your dad do for what'd your dad
do for a living? He said, my dad was a pimp.
Would your mom do she worked for my mom and
that I think that's actually a curious follow up. Is
there is there any way in which this was part
of some sort of follow up to other questions as
to why he was asked if he liked men. I
don't know, and I'm not going to try to couch

(56:54):
it or explain it. I mean, I don't. I don't
in this day and age and where we are are
with um, the laws in this country and people's individual
rights and protected rights in the workforce. Um, if this
is going to be built as the world's largest, biggest,
most televised auditions, most televised job interviews in the history

(57:18):
of the world, and that's frankly how some of the
NFL network promos over the years of Bilbit, then there
needs to be some I believe, modic come up, decorum
and that Okay, if we're if we're now going to
grill and look into every pecadillo of these you know,
year old kids, and this is it make or break time,
do or die? You know you want to get in

(57:39):
our club or don't you? Then I think there should
be someone who has their back as well, whether it's
the nfl PA or whether it's the NFL's human you know,
the Human Resources department. But if this is going to
continue to be the trend, and you couldn't get away
with it on Wall Street, and you couldn't get away
with it at a seven eleven, you know, you couldn't
get away with it if you were asking these questions

(58:00):
at the gap, like, at what point, you know, does
somebody take this seriously enough to say, Okay, we're gonna
penalize those who continue to do this. And I guess
we need to babysit you guys now, So we're gonna
hire an outside firm with thirty two hr specialists and
somebody will have to sit in the corner while you
bring these kids in from six pm from ten pm,
you know, during the combine and make sure that nobody's

(58:22):
doing anything that runs the fouls of the fronds of
foul of you know, hiring practices in the United States.
What where are we with Kirk Cousins. I mean, it's
it's going to be the Jets of the Vikings, and
you know, may the best, May the best team win,
one has the the greatest roster and the the best

(58:43):
chance of immediate success. Although in a year to year
league like this, I don't know that you can make
a six year commitment thinking, oh, well, because the Vikings
were really good last year, you know what I mean,
They're gonna be good forever. But the money, certainly, the
money is the money, and money generally taught. And the
Jets have twice as much cap space as the Vikings.

(59:03):
And if the Jets were to put a structure in
front of Kirk Cousins where he's getting let's say, a
thirty five million dollar based salary in year one and
a twenty million dollar signing bonus that also goes in
his pocket day one, and you know they're willing to
absorb a forty plus million dollar capit in year one
and put fifty fifty fifty five million dollars real money

(59:24):
in his pocket between this March and next March. That's tough,
you know. And the Vikings, I guess could get in
any strategyphere they want. But but then you're talking about, okay,
well Diggs is gone and Trey Ways is gone, and
you know who's the next guy who doesn't get a
contract here because there would be ramifications. The Jets just
cut the highest paid player, and they cut about eight

(59:46):
of their highest paid players over the last few years.
If you go back to Revius and Mangold and Ferguson
and David Harris and you know, Brandon Marshall and Ryan Fitzpatrick,
they've torn it down and they're ready to make a
holistic approach. The cousins that were rebuilding it around you
and here's our plan, and we can give you all
this money and burn it off in year one when

(01:00:07):
we're not winning the Super Bowl and still done to
you to put pieces around you. Jason Lackham Forward joining
us from CBS Sports NFL Inside It's Dug Outlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Was there a consensus in terms of
pecking order that came away from the combine after so
many teams in need of a quarterback add these guys
at the whiteboard. I don't know about a consensus, you know,

(01:00:28):
I don't know that we're ever going to get that,
especially um in this day and age, when they're coming
from so many different styles and so many different you know,
systems of play and not much of it is plug
and play. You looked at the percentages that these kids
were under center, and you know it's not most of
them are in the shotgun, you know, seventy five plus

(01:00:48):
percent at the time. So I don't know that everyone's
gonna extrapolate it the same way, but I can tell
you as I talked to teams who spent a lot
of time with quarterback too, if they get their way,
are going to solve their problem and free agency and
won't actually be drafting him. So that was the kind
of people I like to talk to because they're in it,
but you know, their heart is actually in a different market,
and they're kind of willing to talk this time of year.

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And I didn't have anybody say anything disparaging about the
five or six who will very likely go in the
first round. You know, this thing about Rosen's personality or
whatever people trying to make him out to be Jeff George,
I'm not buying that. Is he going to be everybody's
cup of tea? Maybe not. But it's it's not like
he has a personality disorder or he's you know, sour
face all the time, or he's this like surly uh quarterback.

(01:01:33):
He just he's has some interest outside of football and
and um he's pretty bright and he doesn't talk away.
Every single quarterback is I guess quote unquote is supposed
to talk, but I think he'll be fine. I think Alan,
because of the superior armed talent and and just the
upside there, probably goes first. And then you've got the two,
you know, the USC and U C L A UH

(01:01:53):
and Mayfield probably fall in line, you know, within eight
picks of of the you know, within eight to ten
picks or the first pick, and then you know, we'll
see what happens with UM with the kids from Oklahoma
State and and Louisville. I mean, they're going on. I
think it'll be six. Does I think six of the
first thirty picks will be quarterbacks? When it cost twenty
million dollars to keep Lake Bordles in your building, let

(01:02:15):
me take a shot on one of these games at
five million a year in the late first round. I don't.
I don't think so. I could be. Look, you know
the league way better than I don't think. I talked
to two g MS and I don't think that's the case.
I think that one of the problems is, yes, it
costs them less, but all these coaches they feel pressured
to play these guys earlier, and you're you're almost never

(01:02:35):
going to win with a rookie. I mean, Doc is
the exception, not the rule. And so look, you're trying
to win games. You're like, look, I'd rather take a
guy in a second and third round when I can,
I can stuff him on my bench for a year
or two while he gets ready, because because they're just
not ready, you know, they're just not I I understand
that Deshaun Watson turned the league on its head before
he got hurt. I understand what Dad did two years ago.

(01:02:59):
I'm not here. It's gonna be six. I'm I would
I would put the over runder at four, and I
would probably take the under in the first round. I'll
take that bet. I'll gladigate that that because a lot
of these teams, like Arizona, they're gonna go do something,
whether it's the Karen or Bradford, but they're still drafting one.
Baltimore has stuck with Flacco for another year, but they're
drafting one. Maybe not sixteen, but if Oklahoma's they're in sixteen,

(01:03:22):
it's maybe another kids there at sixteen. It's very much.
You know. Actually, I'll put the over runner at five.
I'll take four, because I do think Mayfield goes in
the first round. Alan goes in the first round. Donald
and Rosen, I don't think. I don't think Mason Rudolph
or Lamar Jackson go in the first round. I think they,
I'll bet you right now they both do. Um. But
but I understand your point. But like Cleveland's gonna take

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one first overall, but they're also going to do something
like that, like Allen won't start week one, Like John
Dorsey's not letting that happen again like that, you know,
So a lot of these situations, somebody was saint. The
Patriots can move up to take somebody and kick to thirty,
you know, or they just take their guy there, or
they they move around and and get somebody before day one,

(01:04:04):
before day one one ends. I have a hard time
thinking that any of that, any of the top five
certainly are still there at the top of day two.
If they are, then John Dorsey's doing you know, he's
doing cartmell along the place. These people have gotten his
guy at one and maybe traded out of Ford and
get a ton more picks, and then if he can
hold an auction for the best quarterback remaining at the

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start of day two, then you've just put him in
a fever dream. The Giants are gonna stand by Eli Manning.
They need to rebuild their offensive line, they need to
tinker with their defense, and they need a running back.
They have the number two pick in the draft, and
his Giants fans will tell you we never draft this high.
We're talking about quarterbacks. Do you draft a guy to
sit on the bench, or do you draft to say

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Kwan Barkley, or do you trade out of that pick?
What do I do? What do I think they're gonna do?
What do I What do you think they're gonna do?
I think they're taking the running back or Schub I there.
I mean they just took on alex They just traded
for alex O for you there. They think they have
a window to win with Eli. I think they're convoluted.
I think a year from now, John Marri's gonna be

(01:05:06):
making some real hard decisions. Again. UM, I have a
hard time getting my mind around how they went from
the total organization realization in in late November that we
are we are not anything close to who we thought
we were, and we need to look at other quarterbacks
and we need to prepare to this for the future.

(01:05:27):
And then you know, to the point where they snapped
this guy's streak to play Geno Smith for a game
because we need to get Davis web ready to not
playing Davis Webb at all, to trading, to taking on
contracts and trading draft picks to take on bloated contracts,
and now probably taking anything but a quarterback with the
second overall pick. I'm I'm stupefied by it. But that's

(01:05:48):
how I believe it's going to go. They feel like,
you know, now that whatever Schirmer's in the building or whatever.
I don't know. I although I think this was in
this wave was coming before that ownership now was like, um,
now we're not rebuilding. We're close. I don't I don't
think they're close. I mean I don't need I don't
either like this was the this is the year to

(01:06:10):
take the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys will be better.
I think the Eagles are gonna be good, and I
think the Redskins. Let's see what you know, let let's
see what they look like. Smith is whatever. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, they're they're still like I I don't see it.
I could be missing it, but I don't like when
was the point to which we I don't. I guess
you got Odell Beckham Jr. And you convince yourself that
that's you know, you get get your wide receivers back,

(01:06:31):
and you have a young tight end. You convinced they
had no offensive line, the defense wasn't good, and and
Manning hasn't been good the last couple of years. But no,
and and all the money they spent on their defense.
I mean, let's be real. Those are always three year deals,
you know, they whatever. You know, they spent a hundred
odd million on their defense two years ago. Like those
guys are going into the third year. Like how many
of them as still gonna be here a year from now?

(01:06:53):
I mean without restructuring or taking a haircut to stay
or oh, we couldn't get anything for him in trade,
Like that's just the reality of NFL free agency. I
mean I I would I would bite the bullet. I
would be gutting that team rather than trading for three.
I'd be a crwing draft picks and I'd be taking
rows and at two if all was not there. But
I don't think that's gonna happen. Great stuff. Jason Lackham

(01:07:16):
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update stories to day scores the day go ahead. Okay,
We'll start with your alma mater of Oklahoma State right
now on a tight one with Kansas forty six about
two and a half minutes gone by in the second

(01:07:57):
half of that Big twelve quarterfinal Matt Jump. Earlier today
in the Big Twelve, Kansas State got an overtime win
against TCU sixty six to sixty four Pack twelve quarterfinals
in Las Vegas, Arizona, right now leading Colorado forty eight
to forty one, about twelve minutes to go. In that game,
Providence in Craton and a tight one on Fox Sports

(01:08:18):
one in the Big East quarterfinal action, tied up at
fifty six apiece under a minute to go. Earlier today,
Xavier took care of St. John's with these in the
Big Eight Quarters for Big East Quarters excuse me, eight
eight to sixty. In the A C C, Virginia top
Louisville today seventy five to fifty eight, while Clemson right
now has a lead on Boston College just thirty seconds remaining.

(01:08:39):
Eighty seven to seventy nine is the scores. Clemson looks
to move on to the semifinals and SEC action. Alabama
earlier today against Texas A and M going down to
the wire Sexton at one God, God, God, Colline Sexton,
we have saved the season for the time. Alabama wins

(01:09:02):
on the buzzer beater Chris Stewart from Learfield Sports with
the call seventy one to seventy. Alabama moves on to
the quarterfinals with that win over Texas A and M.
Michael Porter Jr. Is playing for Missouri just two of
ten for the first half. Georgia right now leads Miszoo
thirty three to twenty four. At the half. Porter Jr.
Did come off the bench has five points, but again

(01:09:23):
Doug a rough day for him from the field and
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Here's the question I have for you guys. Okay, so um,
I got a buddy named Jeff Levering. He is the
play by play voice of the Milwaukee Brewers, and I
asked him as a favor. I was I was in Milwaukee.

(01:10:07):
I was like, hey, I was born in Milwaukee. I
love those old Milwaukee MB hats and I couldn't get
one at I was at Lids in Minnesota. Remember I
got that cool Minnesota hat and I was like, I'm
gonna you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get
a cool hat for as many teams as I want
to have a White Sox hat I have. Ah, I
had a Yankees hat of a Dodger's hat. I was like,

(01:10:27):
can you get me one of those MB hats? And
because he was going down to spring Training's like, no problem,
no problem. So um uh so he sends it to me.
I wear it for a day a day where it
to my son's baseball practice. I'm flying out across country.
That night, I go to the airport. I got my

(01:10:49):
Milwaukee Brewers and be had. I'm going to New York
City and I must have left it at T s A.
You know, they take off the hat you run through.
I grab it all my stuff a little bit tighter tie.
I'm not crazy, but I guess I just forgot, you know,
just forgot. Here's the question. At at l a X

(01:11:09):
Los Angeles International Airport, in order to reclaim your property,
there's a charge. So I have a free hat that
I could pay thirty bucks for it maybe to be claimed.
Maybe if they find it, would you do? What do

(01:11:30):
you just go buy another hat? I have a question.
It's thirty dollars just to see if they might find it. Well,
I mean i I that's what it says on the
website here. So you could pay them the thirty bucks
and they could be like, not, didn't find it, thanks,
can do it. And I mean complete this lost property

(01:11:51):
for him. There's a t charge to process your claim request. Yeah,
so that they don't find it, buy a new one. Yeah,
then you definitely got to buy a new one. Okay.
Now here's the other question. Do I tell Levering if
he ask, okay, man, I lost your hat? How about
how long do you have it? About eight hours a

(01:12:14):
full day of the work. I mean eight hours? Like literally,
I was doing a show from my high did the
show from my house that day, and I threw it on.
I wrote my son to school. I can't wrote my son.
We went and picked him up. We had a base
of practice. I threw BP. I I felt like a
big leader, right leaguer, right like I had a fitted
um new era MB Brewers hat on. I felt like

(01:12:38):
the stuff um I was throwing heat to these eight
nine ten year olds. Let me just tell you, throwing
a little backdoor cutters, all kinds of stuff, and I
got a little dirt on it, curve the brim just
a little bit and needed a little flat brim, little
curve and I and I lost it eight hours later.
I just I feel like I feel like the biggest

(01:12:59):
idiot ever. Um, and there's probably a pretty good chance
I am the biggest idiot ever. So buy the new
hat and tell him only if he asks, or tell him, Hey, dude,
thanks for the hat, but I lost the hat and
now I'm buying a new one. How do you go
about it was a tough one right now, thanks Romos,

(01:13:21):
It is a tough one. I don't think it's that
tough me either. I'm a dan. I'm like buying a
new hat, and don't don't tell him, and don't tell him.
I mean, is this the type of person you said?
He I'm sorry. Just think about this, Doug. If you
tell him you lost it and you just bought a
new one, you could have just went and bought one
in the first place. So that would have been so

(01:13:43):
I would just leave it be, and just he won't.
He's none the wiser. He feels good that he got
you a hat, and it may not be a given
that he just got one from the team. Maybe he
was like, you know what, I gotta go into pocket
for this one, but dougs my guy, so I'm gonna
buy it. Yeah, I wouldn't let him know. That feels

(01:14:04):
like lying. Well, I'd rather lie than hurt his feelings.
I don't know. I feel like telling the truth and
lying it hurts his feelings if he finds out. I
don't know. Hey, you gotta just bought one in the
first place. I know there's a really cool Royals hat
by the way, that with the R and the big
crown on it, don't I don't like that one. I

(01:14:25):
don't like it. I don't necessarily. I mean, I like,
I'm a traditionalist, like the the one. The one hat
I really like is uh. Do you guys remember the
Angels hats where they had the periwinkle blue back when
they were owned by Disney kind of like, Yeah, they're
so corny and so cheesy. I kind of like them.
I mean, is it crazy to get a hat from

(01:14:45):
every team? No? Not at all. Oh, I love hats.
I loved all that stuff. That's beautiful. Here's another question.
Do you guys think that hats caused premature baldness? Ah,
that's a great question. There's a lot remember when we
were kids, be like where all the time, you're gonna
go bald? I do I think my I think my

(01:15:07):
hairline on my forehead is gone back because I always
wear hats and I put it on like I hit
my forehead every time I put my hat on. I'm
not a not a back guy. Some people put it
from the back and pull it forward. I do it
forward and pull it back. You do it forward. Po. Yeah,
that's what you're supposed to underneath the hair. Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

(01:15:28):
I completely agree with you, and I think it's I'm
definitely getting a chief wah who. We talked about this
in the Super Bowl. I'm getting a cheap wah whom.
I don't think it's offensive. The idea that it's offensive
is silly. It doesn't look I mean, I just don't.
It's a cartoonish character, but it's not a cartoon character
to make Native Americans look like cartoonish. It's supposed to

(01:15:48):
be like a warrior and just happens to be read.
I'm not even gonna in the argument. I like it
because it's it's going away in a year. And this
also leads me to the whole discussion baseball really thought
it was offensive, then they would just do away with
it instead of like, it's offensive, but you can sell
it for one more year because it's not so offensive,

(01:16:09):
we can't make some more money off of it. Do
you know what? The last two hats that I'm gonna
get are the ones that will I will struggle the
most to wear. We're the last Cubs, Yes, Cubs, Yes,
and I liked and I like the Cubs. Red Sox
is probably the third. Most Marlins would be Marlin's would

(01:16:31):
and you know they fired my boy Rich Waltz. And
plus it's just like who wears a Marlin's hat. There's
no real throwback classic classic Marlin's hat. I am thinking
about going Ken Griffe Jr. As a rookie Seattle Mariners hat.
Remember the big s big like block as anyway, Seahawks
are gonna release Jeremy Lane more like they're gonna have

(01:16:55):
They're gonna have to have a name cards and and uh,
what's it called the stickers? The high my name is
at their first practice, they're just getting rid of dudes
left and right. But that's what happens when you get
stopped the way they got stopped by the rams. You
gotta get the Hooters and try the new smoke Wings.
It's a new way to crave wings with all the
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at Hooters Hall of Famer things. Athletes need to start

(01:17:17):
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on of me. Bright up, damn, damn boom. See. This
is the thing, though, Rye Music. I think if I
don't do a conference tournament next year, and I look

(01:18:03):
next year, we don't have the Pack twelve, we do
have the Big East um, and you know I'll do
some big tent stuff a little bit later next year.
You guys have never been to like Kansas City. Have
you to a conference tournament? If you have been to
Vegas for for conference tournament madness? You ever you've been
to these places, guys, I have not known, not for
conference tournament. Yeah, Kansas City is great. I mean it's

(01:18:25):
really and I know it's a league that I played
in um Kansas who's up eleven right now in Oklahoma State,
and they bring a huge fan base. I would stay
it will be better next year. They have incredible fan base. Oklahoma,
stay pretty good, case, stay pretty good. It's just it's
like a celebration of the sport. Everybody kind of goes
out to the same bars and restaurants, and that's that's
a generally a good time. It's very unique to the sport.

(01:18:46):
You don't have it in basketball, you don't have in football.
You only you do have in baseball. Maybe we'll go
to Big twelve baseball tournament. That's actually a good time too,
because the weather is always good. And uh, just you
can get bored. You can get bored easily by a
bunch of easeball games a row, whereas a bunch of
basketball games a row, not not so much. Let's get
to uh, let's get them what the Fox said. And
now Hall of Famer Charles Barkley and a good friend

(01:19:11):
of mine had this to say on the Dan Patrick Show.
I hate when white people get on television and talk
about getting a free education is not a big deal.
Getting a free education is a really big deal. I
got regular friends who are still in debt from going
to college. So this notion that we're screwing these kids
are We're screwing a few of them, Yes we are,

(01:19:34):
but most people actually have to get that education to
make it through life. So but it bothers me when
I hear all these guys get on TV talking about, well,
we're screwing these kids. Will this system? We got a
free monor league system. I forget. The system is not perfect.
But for those guys who actually go to college get
on education, which is a majority, the major majority of

(01:19:55):
college kids, they're not getting screwed. It's a big deal
to them to go to college for free. They can
graduate in anything and they want to and that's pretty cool.
It is pretty cool, and actually it is pretty cool. Um.
I look, and I guess I'm a white person that
gets on TV, and I do value education. I also

(01:20:16):
understand the challenge to get more African Americans into college
and to get them more degrees. Like I think so
oftentimes we that's the biggest part that we miss. And
whether it's free or you're trading your your you know,
twenty hours a week during the season, eight hours a week. Now,
see whatever, however you want to determine it, it's a

(01:20:36):
really good deal. You can't be a coach in high school,
in college, you can't be a lawyer. There's I mean,
just pick out the jobs, and you're cutting yourself off
from so many of you don't have a college education.
And we, I think a lot of us assume that
these guys will they'd be able to get it anyway. No,

(01:20:58):
they wouldn't. Well wouldn't matter. Yes, it will ultimately will matter,
especially the kids. This is kind of funny. I just
this is a quick aside. So this is the type
of year, this time of year when college programs uh
fire their coaches and come open. And somebody just sent

(01:21:18):
me an email that there's Oklahoma Panhandle State University. He's
looking for a coach. Now, do you guys know the
pant there's the Panhandle of Oklahomias Ramos, you know where
the Panhandle is. I think I've heard the Panhandle in Texas, right,
is that work? Well, that's that's because but the panhando
Oklahoma is that the skinny part of Oklahoma looks like
a Pant's Handle. It's actually the most There's the pan

(01:21:39):
Hill Florida. There's Panhill, Texas, but the pan Hill in
Texas coincide with the Panhanda Oklahoma. There's a place called
Panhill State University. I know nothing about the school other
than it's in the Panhandle. It's an a and apparently
they just fired their coach. So Buddy Mine said this,
said this to me, was like, you should apply for
this job. I was like, dude, I got a good job.
And then I looked at the qualifications for it, and

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(01:22:45):
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You gotta you gotta question, you gotta comment eight seven
seven eight seven seven box context matters. It always matters, always, always,

(01:23:14):
always always matters. I just I'm not one of these
guys that's head in the sand and things that analytics
don't matter. Analytics matter. It does paint a picture for
you of a person, of a player, of a team,
of a game. It does, especially if you didn't see

(01:23:36):
that game, right, Like, that's that's the big thing. Like
statistics were created for a couple of reasons. One to
reward those who perform well, so we could see empirical
data other than football. It felt like Jimmy played well.
Now we have proof that Jimmy played well, but it

(01:23:56):
also was It's meant for two other sorts of viewers
or fans. One the viewer fan who didn't see the game, Hey,
who played well? Look at the box score, and the
second was for people who watch but don't really know
what they're looking for, Like, how do I know who
the best is? Well, he look at the box score,
and the guy who has the most points, the most assist,
the most rebounds, that guy is generally really good. Like, oh, okay,

(01:24:19):
but there's context to it, you know, it's context to it.
I was watching this this Oklahoma State game. They're taking
on Kansas. Kansas up sixty six to fifty and the
first half. Um actually throughout the game. Oklahoma State has
a transfer from St. John's. Name's Young Cumba sema Um.

(01:24:42):
He's actually originally from Spain. Played at St. John's for
two years and for the season this year. He got
eligible mid season. He's averaging three point five points a game.
She's got eleven points. And you might be thinking of yourself, man,
what a great game, and he is playing fine pretty well.

(01:25:03):
But here's the context of it. Kansas has their own
center of African descent. He is a massive, massive body.
His name is Yuduka Yudoka as a bouquet. Everybody calls
him Doke and Doke's not playing so again, statistically like, wow,
he's got eleven points if the other team doesn't have

(01:25:26):
their center and they're throwing a bunch of money bunds
out there, Like the fact that he has eleven actually
is disappointing. He should have twenty. Context matters. I use
that as kind of a jumping off point because I
remember this conversation, and I know that people don't uh,
people don't like context sometimes in things that are uncomfortable.

(01:25:49):
But I remember that there's a guy named Jeff Ireland.
Jeff Ireland was the now former general manager of the
Miami Dolphins. And you go back eight years ago and
um des Bryant got really upset because during the NFL
Draft combine, he was asked if his mom was a prostitute.
And people are like, whoa whoa time out? You asked

(01:26:15):
dez Briant if his mom's a prostitute, Like what are
you doing? Who does that? Why? Why? How would you
even get there? Like that's where it gets interesting, That's
where context matters. Den Bryant sat down and they're discussing
the things and des Brian had a very tough upbring
and you can tell me, hey, what is my upbringing

(01:26:36):
have to do with me as a football player? But
it has everything to do with you. His weird, his
relationship with his mom has been all over the charts.
Who we are is so much product of our own
kind of chemical makeup, but also it's based upon who
we were raised by and how we were raised. Every
statistical marker, you're more likely to be six, us be

(01:27:00):
two parent home parents are the more educated. They are
more likely. You're gonna value education, and you're gonna have
a better job, and you're going to stay out of trouble, Like,
come on, man, like, let's not kid ourselves. It doesn't
mean that you can't break out of the cycle, which
is a great thought, a great feeling, but you have
to do some research and digging and no and and

(01:27:20):
talk to somebody about their film. How do you feel
about your upbringing? How did the affect you? Do you
feel like you're trying to break out of the cycle?
Is that and something you're not going to So when
you hear a general manager saying like, would your mom
a prostitute? You're like, whoa, there's mechanics who dropped their
wrench over that one. It's not even a joke. Well,

(01:27:43):
it turns out that during that conversation Jeff Ireland asked,
does Bryant what has dad did? Das said, my dad
was a pimp. Then he said, well what would your
mom do? My mom worked for my dad. Follow up
question is where's your mom prostitute? You want a prostitute? So, um, no,

(01:28:11):
context doesn't matter. So there's a story out there that
Darius Jis, who is a star running back at l
s U, was asked if he liked men, and generally
I don't care about some of his sexual preference. I don't.
I could not possibly care any less. And you know,
if you want to say that's a very liberal view

(01:28:33):
of it, no, I mean this is just I don't.
I honestly don't care. I don't. I've seen enough relationships
between dudes devolved because one guy either slept with or
had eyes for another guy. I don't care, like if
he wants to get with a guy like. Here's the
the arrogant thing so many of us head of sexuals
have is we believe we think that if a guy

(01:28:54):
we're working out with, we're training around, we lift around,
we changed clothes around on we just assume, well, then
I'm so good looking, he's gonna want to be into
me right right, that that's the common assumption, like, well,
I don't want guys at the gay guy around in
the locker room, he's staring at you. Here's the thing.
But if you work out at a facility, I'm sure

(01:29:17):
that I'm sure you've probably been around the game. Dude,
who's watched you And maybe he's not into you, maybe
he is. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. So that's
always been my my belief in it. And Darius believes
that he was asked that because somebody was trying to
get a rise out of him. Maybe now again, context matters,

(01:29:40):
because let's run the possibility that maybe they did some
research and found he had homophobic views, or what if
what if they asked him about his girlfriend or a
status of a relationship or why aren't you in a
relationship and he said, I'm not into I'm not into girls.
Are you into guys? Look? When I was this is

(01:30:01):
a true story, played the professional basketball in Russia. It
was the first foreign country I played in. I landed
in January two thousand one and I came back in
June two thousand one. And when you get your hotel
room in Russia and I haven't I'm not going. I
don't think I'm going to the World Cup to cover
for Fox, but I want to because I do, as
I told you guys yesterday or I said yesterday on Facebook,

(01:30:23):
I actually still speak Russian um when you travel around
the country back then, And I don't know if it's
the same way now. I have no idea, but this
is two thousand one. You check into the room, and
I was roommates with a guy named Willie Burton. Willie
was a ninth pick in the NBA draft. She scored
fifty points in the NBA game. He was the other

(01:30:43):
American on the team. We used to get to the
room and like clockwork, we close it or put down
our stuff and bring ring, pick up the phone. Hell all,
would you like Russian girl? Uh? No, thank you? We
have very many beautiful Russian women. Would you like Russian girl? No?
Thank you? Would you like Russian boy? No? Thank you? Okay,

(01:31:07):
thank you, Right, let's goodbye. That's it. And I guess again,
context is Russia. It's different. We don't ask these things
in a job interview. It shouldn't affect your level of
level professionalism. But we don't know the context of it.
One we don't know if Darius nothing not telling the truth.

(01:31:27):
We don't know, if it's a joke. We don't know
if he was actually if he overreacted to something, if
he assumed, if this is just something that he was
joking about, because it did, man the man, they asked me,
if they if I want, and all of a sudden,
the league has its ears up, like what's going on?
We don't know what he said? And if this was
simply a follow up question. Do I generally think you

(01:31:48):
shouldn't ask somebody by their sexual preference? No? No, not
unless it's an you know, has the potential of Michael
Salmon being an issue. Sam, It wasn't that he was homosexual.
It was that um because he was such a trail
blazer and because he he it's like he wanted to

(01:32:09):
be a more polarizing figure than maybe he needed to
be instead of just being a football player. But I
look at it and I'm begging for context. I'm begging
to understand the context of any conversation where somebody asks
another guy that. And I don't think it's crazy to
think there is an out here for whomever asked him

(01:32:33):
because there was something else or some reason that that
question was asked eight seven, seven, nine nine Fox. In
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(01:34:38):
the college basketball games as uh Providence survives, survives Creighton
in the garden. It looks like Kansas is gonna put
away Oklahoma State seventies sixty five. And we had Jerry
Palm from CBS Sports on he does not think Oklahoma
State is getting in. They'll move to nineteen and fourteen
and essentially nine and eleven in conference. Like, um, here's

(01:35:02):
how I do the bracket thing. Like a lot of
these guys, it's a it's hard because it's the moving
target and then the night before most of it becomes
kind of obvious. Still, I still think it's hard, like
this year, just so many major conference teams with varying resumes,
varying resumes because uh frankly, because they're the conferences. You know,

(01:35:24):
Big twelve in the Big East play double round robins.
The other conferences don't, so you have miss mixed max schedules.
It's really hard to determine, Like sit there and look
at but generally you get thirty six at large teams.
You can figure out about thirty of them those last
six this year become very difficult. So then it sounds

(01:35:45):
like to me, Doug, that you are the type of
guy that doesn't go over the top crazy when teams
don't get in a certain teams, because it sounds like
you have a pretty pretty good idea of like, hey,
you know, it's a hard process. It's not easy to
do this. No. I mean, like, look, I I went,
I was I was the I'm the lone guy to
ever go crazy on the set of CBS just because
there's always one like Sunday Surprise that I think U

(01:36:08):
c l a couple of years ago they got in.
You're like, what you know, Syracuse gets in two years ago.
Know what you know? And what happens is when you
when you have the empirical data and there's no logical
reason why a team gets in, and they get in anyway. Uh,
one thing that always happens is those teams tend to

(01:36:29):
win games. Michigan, I think it was two or three
years ago. It was two years ago. They had lost
eleven games by ten points or more and they weren't
they don't at that time, they weren't counting and they
still account like margin of defeat. My point was like, look,
if you're getting beat by eleven times, boy, more than
ten points, Like you're not that good, You're just not.

(01:36:50):
My senior year in college we got my my entire
college career at Oaklahama State, we got beat double figures.
I think three times, may be four my entire time.
So but yeah, I mean I would. I just I'm
not gonna go crazy at brackets, holl But I'm trying
to tell you rama says, I won't get crazy and

(01:37:11):
go to the mattresses over bracketologists and what they say
and what they do. Right now, we get to Saturday
and into Sunday morning, there's a couple of teams out there,
like it doesn't really make sense. Let's take Alabama. Who
here here's the like, here's a big miscommon misconception of people.
Alabama on a Colin Sexton end to end runner. You

(01:37:35):
know they're down one. He gets the ball outside the
three point line and you know, going downhill, shoots a
scoop shot in the lane from about twelve feet and
makes it as the buzzer expires. So Alabama on a
couple and for a couple of these bracketologists, they got
him in the n s A tournament and so people

(01:37:57):
freak out. Hold on Alabama is in, so that means
it's done, it's over. Like no, they still have to
play another game. They could very easily move out by
losing tomorrow, and there are other factors. I don't have
Alabama in as of now, but the point is that
they win tomorrow, they probably will be. But what happens

(01:38:18):
is we want to know right now. I mean that's
the same thing with everything. We want to know right now,
what what the answer is to everybody? But that's sometimes
it just has to play out. Sometimes just has to
play out. Stuck Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. You know,
I thought, what the what the Panthers did mids mid
season last year was fascinating, right, fascinating. You trade a

(01:38:40):
starting wide receiver in the middle of the year and go, hey,
we're good. We got we have enough players. And one
of those guys is Devin Funchius of the Panthers. He
joins us on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
First Michigan, guy, Um, did you did you watch the
Big Ten tournament last week? If I did, I did, Brother,

(01:39:02):
I'd like Beeline. Beeline has this kind of profess oreal
way out there where You're just like, I don't know
what he's gonna do, but somehow he's gonna outsmart the
other coach. And that's that's the feeling I get. And
I'm guessing as a Michigan allum, you'd feel the same
all the time and been like that since I was
there with Trey Burke and and all those guys from

(01:39:23):
that National Championship. He just finds a way to uh
to get those guys ready. Uh. I tried to sneak
you in a couple of practices with him myself, and
uh gets from three pointers up because they shoot lights out.
They do. They do shoot lights out. By the way,
I don't know if you know that Trey Burke game
where he had the perfect block against Louisville and they

(01:39:45):
supposed they lost, They lost the National Championship game. You
know that game never happened, right, The n C is
now Luke Louisville had to vacate wins, so that game
never officially happened. I know I had an argument with somebody,
uh was a couple of weeks ago and they said that,
and I said, so we did the National Championship now
right out right? Yeah? Not so much. Not not for

(01:40:06):
whatever reason, That's not the way it works. Stevin Funch
is joining us on the Dug Outlum Show. Now, when
you look back, what was that like? You know, when
you when when they decide, like Dave Gettiman gets fired
before the year and then mid year the guy who's
over on the other side of cam they make a trade.
What was last season like for you? It was I

(01:40:30):
don't I don't really get over down. I just kinda
keep the mellow and stay calm. But it was it
was interesting. I didn't know, just like going into camp,
we didn't know that uh Mr Gettimo was about to
get fired, and then we didn't know that KB was
gonna get traded. So it was interesting. Uh. I kind
of stayed on my on my grind and uh got

(01:40:51):
to it and was already prepared for the for the
situation to happen. How much did you guys change in
because it felt like like MCCA after it felt like
it took the coaching staff, I don't know, six or
so games to figure out, oh, this is how we're
going to use him. Combined with the changing roster, how
much did you guys evolve as an offense during that time. Uh,

(01:41:15):
I don't say necessarily say evolved. I mean coach Shuler
was calling his plays and we just he was just
running them. And uh, that's basically what it was, is
that nothing really changed and we just kind of kept
it calm and didn't really didn't really get in the
height because everything that was going on that year anyway
with the media. So I think we just I think

(01:41:36):
we took care of it in the hands that were
very well. All right, So you mentioned coach Schuley, he's out.
You have a new system. How different do you assume
the offense is gonna be? Uh? They say coach Turner
ran the same offense. And I actually talked to my
cousin about it too, and uh he said it's good.
It should be interesting, and uh, I'm just sided to

(01:42:00):
get back on the sixteen and see who we got.
All right. So North Turner obviously coming into your new
offensive corner. Devin Funches joining us on the Doug Gotlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, there's you know,
you guys did something a couple of years ago when
when Josh left Josh Norman left and he went to
the Redskins. He able to keep most of the core

(01:42:21):
of the defense intact as opposed to look at what
Seattle is doing where they kept everybody, you know, they
didn't have they didn't allow Richard Sherman to go out
in the free agency, and now they're having to having
to break it apart. It look, it's a different ways
of doing, different business. But it feels like your guy's
way is gonna allow you guys to be successful longer.
Is that a fair way to look at it? You're

(01:42:43):
talking about defense, yeah, or just or just general general person. Obviously, Look,
you've had change at running back. You know, they've rebuilt
the offensive line, but defensively, like when you guys went
to Super Bowl was built around running the ball, defense
and then Cam trying to make a play. The defenses
remain relative with you know, obviously changed defensive backs two

(01:43:03):
years or two years ago, but relatively intact upfront. Feels
like that's a different plan than what Seattle was employing.
Ah yeah, we uh coach Cosvera and uh those guys
up there, they do a great job of getting up
for theiry and just having us ready. And it also
helps with Luke and Cam and Khalil's and all those
vests that we have, so they make it they make

(01:43:26):
it easy for everybody else to pick up on assignments
and know what we're doing out there on the field.
There's there's talk. Darius Joyce from L S Hues like,
you know, they asked me if I if I was
into dudes, if I like if I like guys. What
was the craziest thing you were asked in the draft process?
They was just trying to get to know me, and uh,
because I never really did any media outlet things and

(01:43:49):
things that made you, so they were just trying to
get to know me. Things about our family and things
like that. They asked how I came up and all
that type of stuff. Did you did you feel like
any of it was unfair or anything you weren't prepared
for now? I did? Uh? I mean I told the truth.
I mean there wasn't a lie about it. I just

(01:44:10):
told him what happened on my on my my childhood
and all that type of stuff. All right. Devin Bunch
is joining us on the on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on UH on Fox Sports Radio. Cam's a dude who
everybody's like, Look, your season changed when they decided to
let him run more, to let him be Cam more.
But then you gotta hold your breath. How long? How

(01:44:33):
long can he keep that up? Because those guys running
quarterbacks there, what the expression is, there's no such thing
as an old running quarterback, right, But he's so much
bigger and stronger than any guy we've seen. What's your
sense of what's what's feasible in terms of longevity of
him being able to run for first downs called run
plays for for Cam Newton. Uh, Cam is a freaking

(01:44:59):
nation got six five, two fifty five that's just out
there running running around and then can throw the ball
as hard as you cannon, exactly as you can. So
I don't I don't really, I don't mind it, but
back to back, I don't think that's that's smart about it.
But I think he gets he gets the thrill out

(01:45:21):
of all that type of stuff though. That's his that's
his game. He he loved to run the ball, so
I say do whatever he was comfortable with. Yeah, Greg
Olsen's getting on his TV run. Don't know if you
saw him on at the combine, right, he got to
do a game when he got hurt, Like, what's what's
the deal? They can't put you on a game. I mean,
you're not hurt, so that's that's part of it. But
do you want to do the draft combine? Do you

(01:45:42):
want to do some draft stuff? No, they don't, they don't.
They don't want me to do that. They say I'm
too young. They don't want my head to get big,
so I don't. I don't mind it. Uh, if somebody
gives me an opportunity, I'll pretend to do it. I
think it will be far talking to those guys and uh,
just looking at looking at the guy. Like film, when

(01:46:02):
when Kim walks in with his outfits or he walks
up to the podium with his outfits, do you guys
crush him about it? Like? What what is the honest
reaction with some of the outfits that he wears at
the podium. I ain't wear a different outfit every day,
so it's like we kind of get used to it
and you kind of I don't even pay attention to
what he has on because he's always switching every day.

(01:46:25):
Every day he has a different outfit, so the game day,
it doesn't that we we don't look at it any different.
Is if we do go about our day, do you
like that. I'm like, do you you try and step
up your game to matches have a dasherie or do
you just like, look, I'm just do my own thing.
Oh No, on game they know I'm a max. I
think uh, I think they try to keep over me
on game days, my my outfits and away games. Uh,

(01:46:49):
our second and nae Cam's just words all those hats,
but my style is is second and nuh. Yeah. I
think he's so big he's got to have one of
those heads to where you gotta have special made hats too.
He has like that dud's got a big head to
your big dandy big head. No, he's just growing out
his hair. He's just throwing out his dere No. I

(01:47:09):
mean I think they are customed made. It cost a
lot of money. I was guy had him one year
the Secret Santa, and they comes with a lot of
money and I wasn't want to spend that money on
on the hat. So you go into Secret Sity like
can be like, damn, can I get somebody who likes
to wear a ball cap? Like? Wow? Uh? I mean
somebody who didn't have everything? He has everything, he didn

(01:47:29):
doing something, So I mean the hats are cool though.
I mean that's just swack. So I think he's gonna
keep doing that that he's dumb playing. Devin, Thanks for
joining us, man, really really appreciate it. Ain't no problem,
all right, Devin Funch just joining us. You don't like,
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of games going on. Georgia is up on Missouri right now,
and the Bulldogs are shooting free throw sixty one to
sixty with thirteen seconds to go. Michael Porter Jr. Just
Missed a three that would have given Missouri elite. Georgia's

(01:48:13):
first free throw is good now they're up by two.
Will keep you up to date of what's happening there.
But earlier today in the SEC second round play in
Missouri in St. Louis to be exact, Alabama rolled past
Texas A and m Sexton gets it three seconds to
Sexton at one. Hey, God's God God Collin Sexton, Maga Fuarter.

(01:48:38):
They'll review it, but Worcy Collin Sexton, they have saved
the season for the time. Seventy one to seventy was
the final on Learfield Sport with Learfield with Chris Stewart
with the call, Doug, just to get you up today
on that Georgia Missouri game. Georgia missed the second free
throw but got the rebounds, and now eleven point three

(01:48:58):
seconds left George at the free throw line missing the first.
So there's still life for Missouri. Moving on now Big
twelve Quarterfinals, Kansas State to Kara TCU in overtime sixty
six sixty four. Well Kansas knocked out Doug's alma mater
of Oklahoma State eighty two to sixty eight. Clempson a
winner in the A c C where they beat Boston
College eighty two. They get Virginia next to beat Louisville

(01:49:19):
seventy five to fifty eight. Pack twelve Quarterfinals now a final.
Arizona beat Colorado eighty three to sixty seven, Providence in
overtime winner in the Big East Quarterfinals over Craighton six eight.
Some NFL news, the Titans are gonna release running back
to Marco Murray will The Niners gave Wade receiver Marquis
Good one of three year extension. The vertical says Pelicans
star Anthony Davis Day today with an ankle sprain, doubtful

(01:49:41):
to play against the Wizards tomorrow and at the Valve
Spar Championship Tiger Woods one under part through seventeen, just
three shots back of the lead in first round play.
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to how we select teams, and I've been I actually
like I like the exercise of comparing and contrasting schedules.

(01:50:24):
I don't necessarily like some of the way in which
teams are evaluated because I think I think it gets lost.
I'll give you an example. Okay, so Oklahoma State has
a terrible out of conference schedule, right buy or that's
like one of the reasons everybody talks about it. Their
schedule is terrible out of conference. Now, for people who
say these are schedules are set five years in advance,

(01:50:46):
that's not actually accurate. Okay. What what our set years
in advance is the neutral site tournaments, and sometimes you
have a home and home or two for one or whatever.
So what Oklahoma State had coming in was they had
a tournament in Brooklyn, New York, where they had Texas
A and M and the possibility of of Pittsburgh and
I can't remember who the other team was at A
and M and I play. They had Wichita State at home,

(01:51:09):
and everybody knew which TOA state was gonna be a
top ten team. They had to go to uh Florida's
Florida and play Florida State in Sunrise, Florida, which is
outside of Miami. So those are the things that they
pretty much and they had Tulsa coming into their building.
Tulsa is an in state game. It's also Tulsas in
the American Athletic Conference. They generally went about twenty games

(01:51:29):
a year. That's decent. So and they also had Arkansas
on the road in the SEC Big Twelve Challenge. And
so you look at that schedule like, okay, we have
to go to Florida and tay play Florida State in Sunrise,
we gotta play go play Texas, A and M and
maybe Pittsburgh. I can't remember who bells Pittsburgh played. UM

(01:51:50):
Penn State, Yes, Penn State, Okay, so and and and
on a normal year, you're gonna play Pittsburgh if you
win in Penn State, if you lose. This is not
a normal year. This is the worst UM. This is
the worst UH Pittsburgh team we've seen maybe ever. Obviously
their their coaches fired. But you gotta go to New York,
you gotta go to Arkansas, which to stayed at home,

(01:52:11):
Like that's a pretty good schedule. My my sense has
always been you gotta play five good teams in the
non conference, and then the rest is what's called guarantee games.
By games, you give a team a check, they come
in and generally they lose. The biggest flaw in the
strength of schedule has always been. This has nothing to

(01:52:33):
do with the fact I went to Oklahoma State. Is
that we evaluate the games they played Houston Baptist, they
played Austin p they played uh, what was it, Missippi
Valley State, Oral, Roberts, Charlotte, Pepperdine all have terrible seasons,
but we evaluate those games equally with the other games.

(01:52:56):
But the truth is that when you go around the
country and an these big name teams are trying to
get the term, they all play six games which they
know they're gonna win. That's why they give them the check.
They wouldn't be in this conversation if they're losing. So
who cares the level of difficulty in those games? Now?
Does it create kind of a fictional record? Okay, if
that's your argument, sure, fine, I gotta understand. But that's

(01:53:19):
my so. But let me ask you guys this, and
this is I want your honest opinion. The goal is
supposed to be to find the best teams in the
country and to out of those teams find your national
champion out of a tournament. Do you think the popularity
or the interest in a player should be an overriding

(01:53:39):
factor If both teams are about alike if they get
in the n A Tournament, I'm gonna say no, Doug, Okay,
you gotta gotta support your answer and tell me why. Well.
I just don't think it's fair to give a team
an edge which had nothing to do with anything that
happened on the court. You could just recruit a famous

(01:54:00):
player's son and say, hey, we could have Lebron James's
kid play in Dayton, so we deserve the bid more
than a mid major or a team like Boise State.
I don't think that that is and I don't think
that they're the huge gain of While it would help
to maybe put a Trey Young, as you mentioned earlier
in the first four, I don't think it's worth risking
the integrity of it to put a player in. I

(01:54:22):
don't think I'm not saying, and look, I'm not saying
it's not on the up and up right, like dude,
on the up and up here, like look, push camps
to cheve. We want to see Tray Young play. I
think honestly, one of the things they you know, they
don't create games out of interest. You know you never
had when Texas Tech was in the tournament and Bob
Knight was their coach. They never like I want to

(01:54:42):
see him play Indiana. I do. I want to. They're
all in the tournament anyway, Who cares make make up
some of these games? And look, Oklahoma is close. It's
not like they're terrible and we're giving him a passing
the season their clothes. Let me ask you, Ryan Music,
what about you? Do you think it's an integrity the issue.
You gotta go with the best teams, regardless of who
the players are. I tend to go more with the

(01:55:06):
idea that it can be a potential tiebreaker because I
look at it as in most cases it's usually you're
kind of splitting hairs on how far apart these teams
really are, and it's already pretty in exact on what
type of factors you're gonna choose on who deserves more
than another. So I have no problem with them choosing

(01:55:26):
a player like try Young to go in above above
another team. Rob must be the the you're the rubber match,
you're the tiebreaker. What do you think? Well? I do
agree that um having names in there does help, But
as a somebody who's coached and just been around players
and stuff like that, as far as I just don't
think I agree with Dan, Dan, I would. It's how

(01:55:49):
that's how you perform on the field, and and that's
really what should be the determining factor of why any
team gets into any type of tournament, not because you
have some guy in your team that scores forty four
points a game or someone that. Imagine if VCU was
left out of that first four because they didn't have
a star player, when they ended up going to the
final four, and what that did for that school. And look,

(01:56:11):
I look, I I genuinely agree with you, um, But
then you know, we all kind of get selfish over
like I wanted to see Steph Curry. I want to
see Patty Mills. They matched up in the n I
T and I did. I selfishly wanted to see them.
So I'm I'm torn on it. I really am, Um,
I would. I would almost argue that too. I hate
to say this, but when Trey Young all of a

(01:56:33):
sudden became Tray Young is when Oklahoma kind of started
to take a little bit of a slide. When all
of a sudden, now we're in trade. I think I
think that hurt him. Yes, absolutely, I agree. I think
they didn't. I dont think they didn't know how to
deal with it. They didn't. They didn't know how to
deal with the pressure with the spotlight. I think other
players and the team saw the attention he was getting
to realize like, well he's not he's not playing any defense.

(01:56:56):
He's missing shots. Now, Like, hey, if you're gonna get
all this attention, do you gotta play harder and tougher
than the rest of us. And you're not Like I
absolutely think, absolutely think that was that that's part of
their slide. You're You're not wrong in any way. Um,
And look, the tournament does create stars. Many guys who
you know, we watch, we end up knowing because of
the n c A Tournament. I just think it's a

(01:57:16):
fascinating way. Would you you know, would you put a
guy over the top, would you put a team over
the top because they have a guy that you want
to see play. It's fascinating. It's not the way they
do it. And I told people last year, if if
this thing wasn't on the up and up, Syracuse would
have gotten the n c A Tournament because David Levy,
who is the head of Turner, and they spent most
of the money, like the one billion a year comes

(01:57:39):
from Turner If and that's his favorite team. If he
can't get his school in, nobody can. How did the
potential number one overall pick perform in his conference tournament?
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Doug out the show Fox Sports Radio. Things We've learned today.
This is I just think this is hilarious. Did you
guys think this is funny that you guys didn't laugh

(01:58:23):
at all? So, UM, I get things sent to me
all the time, and I get buddies are like you,
you should go coach here, you should coach there. So
a friend of mine send me this thing from Panhandle State.
Of course, my wife, uh, I grew up in Oklahoma
panhandles panhandles out in the middle of nowhere. But um, anyway,

(01:58:44):
so buddy mine sends us to me and it's you
should apply for this Panhandle State head men's basketball coach.
Any I a job, and uh among the list of
qualifications needed, essential duties and responsibilities. Number one developing, execute,
recruitment and retention of quality student athletes, including but not
limited to off campus evaluation, contracts, organization, and on campus

(01:59:07):
visits and tryouts. I think that's reasonable. I guess think
that's reasonable, Very reasonable, Doug. Yeah. Number four works effectively
with student athletes of varying abilities, socios, and economic and
cultural backgrounds to instill commitment, discipline, and teamwork. Also reasonable.

(01:59:28):
Number fourteen is really interesting. Must be able to lift
more than fifty pound objects, frequent bending, stooping, and walking.
Do you know who's qualified for this job? Ramas for
stupid and walking, stooping and walking, stooping and walking lifting
fifty pounds? George Costanza remember remember were you? Yeah? I

(01:59:57):
saw George left a hundred pounds right up over his head.
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(02:00:19):
you got there, Bob? Second man, I don't have that
job a few years back, Bob Scamo got it right,
all right? Just trying to play all Let have some
fun on this Madness Thursday. Let's talk about college basketball
in a little bit, Doug. I want to get your
thoughts and some news that happened today in other sports. First,

(02:00:41):
in the NFL, the Titans are going to release running
back to Marco Murray. The Seahawks had former Panthers running
back Jonathan Stewart in for a visit. Well, the forty
Niners and wide receiver Marquise Goodwin agreed to a three
year extension. I still think like the thing that's changed
the most in the NFL has been the news we
had of Seattle, where like, I'm not willing to de

(02:01:02):
clare them dead, but they are definitely revamping things. And
you have to We saw this from the Ravens years
ago and they won the Super Bowl. Like, you got
to remake things. And I know that Richard Sherman suffered
Achilles tenant tear and that's one of the big reasons
they're can rid themselves of Richard Sherman. But I also
think challenging your quarterback, challenging your offensive coordinator. Richard Sherman

(02:01:24):
is or was an elite wide receiver, but you if
you had to pay between cornerback and quarterback. You pick
quarterback every time in the NBA. Doug the Vertical says,
Publicans start forward Anthony Davis Day today with an ankle sprain,
doubtful to go against the Wizards tomorrow, while the Timberwolve
sign free Chick guard Derrick Rose m Okay. So Derrick
rows Uh signs with Tom Thibodeaux. So now Tips is

(02:01:48):
kind of starting to get the band back together. I
think it's fast. It's gonna be really hard to tell
who's really good and who's not in the NBA. And
I'll tell you why. We look at We look at
records from the Western com French teams like man, Western
Conference teams, great records, Eastern Conference teams. These are the
best playoff teams you've ever had. Clippers at thirty four

(02:02:09):
and twenty, and we don't look at it is the bottom, right.
I mean, you got Tanka Baloosa. The Bulls were warned
about sitting healthy players. The Nets have won twenty games,
Magic twenty, Hawks, twenty Grizzlies, eighteen Sons, nineteen Mavericks and
King's twenty Like they're they're not that the West isn't
that good. It's the bottom of the West has trying

(02:02:31):
to be that bad. Michael Porter Jr. Is one and
done in the SEC Tournament. His Missouri Tigers felt the
Georgia sixty two to sixty. Porter Jr. Won five of
seventeen and his return for twelve points. Had a late
three that was off the mark that could have given
Missoi a late lead. It feels like it feels feels
like a no lose deal for Michael Porter Jr. Remember

(02:02:53):
his dad's on staff, his brothers on the team, John Davis,
who's had a very good year. I know that people think, well,
this guy is gonna his draft stock. He's probably gonna
go between six and ten. Anyway, had a back at
back at a back injury. Don't play two minutes. I
don't think this hurts him. I'm bummed only can see
him once and boy that that place in St. Louis
is gonna clear out, especially if Kentucky loses tomorrow. Finally,

(02:03:15):
Tiger Woods three off the leave in the first round
of the Valve Spark. He's at one under at a
time for eight. He is going to win the Masters.
I just bet a couple of my buddies he's gonna
top ten at the masters. But now I'm going all
the way, get out there and press. That was the press.
All right, we'll go all hoops tomorrow, Mark few Evan Daniels,
I'll couple a bunch of my buddies. We'll just talk
a bunch of hoops tomorrow. Okay. In the meantime, your

(02:03:38):
assignment is to go home and watch basketball. This is
the best, the best day. Like, if you like basketball,
on and don't give me this. This is like the people, Oh,
what do you do for a living? Like you like basketball? Yeah,
you don't know who I am, Then you don't really
like bad. If you like basketball, you're watching hoop tonight.
Enjoy the night. We'll be back tomorrow three Eastern, twelve Pacific.
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