August 22, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug takes issue with Hall Of Famer Eric Dickerson saying that a source told him that NFL teams were told not to draft Shedeur Sanders. Doug weighs in on something Bill Belichick said about being a college head coach. Doug welcomes former Bucs' General Manger Mark Dominick on to talk about the Cowboys, Shedeur Sanders and all of the headlines around the NFL. Plus Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I GOT DIBBS!".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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It's a football Friday. College football is here as we're
at week zero. You made it, you made it, you
made it. We'll make fun of something ESPN posted. That's
always fun. Mark Dominical join us. That's always enter interesting.
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A really interesting hypotheses from Jason Stewart on Jerry Jones.
I want to share that with you. I remier backpedaling
like a defensive back and was Bill Belichick kind of
privately raking the crafts. We got a bunch to get to,
but I want to start with someone who Jay stew
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you worked with somebody who I like, and we grew
up watching play as one of the greatest football players
we've ever seen play. But he did the thing that
I just I find to be not good bizarre and
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sort of a credibility killer. On the other hand, it
is feeding the masses the sugar that they so desire,
even if it's bad for you, even if it's bad
for you. And like I remember when when the president
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got elected his his first term, and I had I
have several friends, black friends, mixed race friends, and especially
friends from their foreign friends, and there was you know,
between some of the travel band and some of the narratives,
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there was the thought of for me, I did not
know there was a level of xenophobia and racism that
was being promoted. On the other hand, some of it
I had to take a step back and go, Okay,
how much of this is real? How much of this
is And when I say media created, it's the media
is drawn to the fringes left and right right. But
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I'm just somebody, And Jason, I think you can I
don't know if you're can attest to this or not.
When you grew up in California, it's so weird to
hear people talk like racial politics. And I know that
California there's become a level of racial politics. But again,
you grew up and look, you grew up in a
part of Orange County, which was mostly white, but it
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wasn't super rich. It was lower middle income, and there
were Hispanics as well. I grew up in a very
diverse part of Orange, California. Obviously, playing basketball, y're surrounded
by people of color. So when I heard about, you know,
like people saying there's still all this racism, I was like, really,
and then we read about it, you watch on the
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news like, well, maybe there is, But then you settle
back down to the Hey, sports is a place where racism.
We've generally evolved out of it. Yes, we still use
stereotypes fair, unfair, mostly unfair, but we still use stereotypes.
We do. But the idea that and we've talked about
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this before with Eric b Enemy, that because he was
a black man, he could get a head coaching job.
When I've walked you through many times over the feedback
I've gotten from people who have interviewed him but not
hired him as a head coach. Now it's not even
part of the conversation. I remember. You go back, not
this past year, the five previous years probably, and Eric
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the Enemy was discussed of you gotta hire this guy.
He not anywhere close to being disgusted. It's crazy like
he's slightly ahead of where Colin Kaepernick is to be
a starting quarterback where he is to be a head
coach in the NFL slightly. So that brings me to
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Eric Dickerson, Hall of Fame running back, two thousand yard
season and Eric, he's never been shy to say what
he thinks. That's why his nickname with the Rams was
the first four letters of his last name, right, So
this was Eric Dickerson, remember super opinionated Hall of Fame
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former Ram and Colt on Rogan and Rodney on our.
I am Affiliate five.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And I'll tell you as much here what I and
what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that
the NFL put it told other don't draft him, do
not draft him. We're gonna make up, we're gonna make
an example out of him. And this came from a
very good source, a very good source. And he said
that I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns
and said, don't do that. Really, yep, draft him, don't
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don'tn't do that because they weren't go drafted either. They
weren't gonna drafted.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Only they did right. Only they did. Okay, I'm not
denying that Eric Dickerson knows NFL people. I'm not denying
that people haven't talked a lot about Shador Sanders and
where he was drafted. But the NFL has been accused
of or even sued for collusion several times over the
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past five years. Do we really think that thirty two
teams who want to win football games, if they thought
Shador Sanders was good enough. Do you really think that
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Roger Goodell or somebody of power would have picked up
the phone and say don't draft him and risk not
millions billions of dollars if that story was true and
got out right. Because that's an easy one. You know,
it's not truly a free market, but there's still free
market principles. Things you can't do. You can't call teams
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in your league and say, do not draft this player
because we want to make an example out of him
when he's committed no real crime other than being an arrogant,
entitled Ridge Kidd who flaunted his wealth while playing college
football and disengaged in interviews with teams he didn't want
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to go to, and did so in a fashion that
was hard to take for most teams in the league,
Like I'm not sure about a lot of things. A
scientific factor is only ninety seven percent. This screws people
up that don't know science. Like one of the things
science does is they leave room for the outliers and
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the very small chance, but a scientifically proven fact, it's
like ninety seven percent chance that's right, or even ninety nine.
But with ninety nine, there's that one percent. Right. I
am one hundred percent certain the sunrise in the east
and sets in the west, and that there was no
collusion to keep Shador Sanders out of the league because
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the league was trying to make a point about him.
And what's crazy is and this is where it's really
poison It's really poisoned because this is the type of
internet rumor that we see really in Washington. Now. You know,
we've we're employing conspiracy theorists to make major decisions for
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the current and future of our country, right, And this
is just a conspiracy theory And this is who we become.
And I gotta tell you, like Eric Dickerson, I would
have him on one time for this, and that would
really it because that's a credibility killer. You run the
risk of being sued by the National Football League, a multi, multi, multi,
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multi billion dollar industry, because they don't want to get
sued for collusion. So if they don't, okay, if he
doesn't retract, he's saying they cocluded and they said nothing
about it. And it's not like it's what's the guy
who tweets at the show Jay stew J always talk
about is it race car forty seven?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Corvette Corvette Guy twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's not Corvette Guy twenty seven. This is Eric freaking Dickerson.
This is two thousand yard season. This is a Hall
of Fame running back who used to be on Monday
Night Football as a broadcaster. And listen, I'm telling you
that he's wrong. I'm telling you whoever he talked to
is like, well this people are saying this is this
is like a trump Ism, right, and this is honestly
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what's kind of happened with the president where he can
say whatever and nobody calls him on it, and if
you call them on it, you know, I mean, he's
they're just gonna move on. Doesn't work out way. You
can't say that the NFL colluded to keep Shador Sanders
out to make a point, and you're like, well, of course,
like ka, of course they would Why why would they
if Shadoor Sanders can win them football games? Nobody cares.
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And the easiest example of that is the actual who
should be the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns, right,
Deshaun Watson was accused of sexual assault up to over
forty times, settled many of these settled some of these suits,
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and yet the Cleveland Browns offered him a five year,
guaranteed contract the likes of which we had never seen before.
Not because he's white, he's not. He's black. Not because
he wanted Clemson or he wanted Houston, or because they
thought he could win in Cleveland. That's it. They're tired
of looking for a quarterback and they had this is
their only way to get a quarterback. If you think
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that's true, you're just feeding into internet rumors. And that's
what Eric Dickerson's doing, and it it creates this vicious
cycle of well, it's because he's it's it's the loud
black guy that they want to keep out of like
nobody Now, well, yes, yes, you want to keep out
a guy who has a gigantic ego when you're supposed
to walk in, humble pie and make people believe in you.
You gotta believe in yourself. But having a videographer, having
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listened in to your own own song on a you know,
on a portable speaker, walking in, not carrying your own bag,
like lo, bro, you're a fifth round pick. Take it easy,
carry somebody else's bag, humble pie. But again, like I understand,
we all understand the position, right, And again I love
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people that want to make it about race, Like, hey,
cam Ward's number one pick, He's black, right, And there's
the famous video with cam Ward and him working out
and he's talking about all these other things, and cam
Ward's like, I do football, right, I do football. So
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I'm not one hundred percent about a lot of things.
I'm not, you know, not one a lot of them,
ninety seven to ninety nine percent. I'm sure the sun
rise in the east and sets in the west, and
that there is no collusion to keep store Sanders out
of the NFL. Shadoor Sanders dug Shadoor Sanders' own proverbial
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draft day grave a grave. He and his dad wanted
to determine where they were going, and so they they
they acted like the worst possible first state ever. We're
not engaged, not paying attention, answering their phone during an interview.
Like what I have been told again, you want to
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go buy sources that what we've heard about the interviews
is probably seventy five percent as bad as the one
hundred percent that it actually was. And what happens in
those interviews is everyone knows somebody like we talked to
in coaching, we talked to everybody, Like I text with
our rivals head coach on a day. That's Bart Lundy
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at Milwaukee, Like like we openly they'll take shots at us,
will take shots, but like, look but still we're in
the same business and we're in the same league. We're
in the same state. Ever been in the NFL talks,
it's not collusion. If you go, how is Shador? You're
not gonna believe this, but he answered the phone in
the middle of an interview, You're not gonna believe this.
But he completely blew off Brian Dable at the whiteboard.
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You're not gonna believe this. But yeah, that spreads. That's
not collusion, that's sharing information. And they're all like, I
just I want nothing to do with that. But that's
not what Eric Dickerson said. What Eric Dickerson said, okay,
and we have it on tape is hey, I heard
somebody that somebody from the NFL called and say, do
not draft this guy. We want to make a point
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of it. That is collusion. And again I don't think
I know that no one is that stupid. It's just
like people who say NBA games are fixed, because all
it takes is one person to send out one text,
you know, or to screenshot one thing, and the entire
NBA loses all of the ability to have gambling on
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the NBA, which is a billion dollar industry. The NFL
is on fire. Jason points it out every week. Okay,
he calls it the zarupa effect, right where the NFL
knows they're putting out a bad product and yet people
watch anyway. I don't think they know they're watching a
bad product. I do think they know it's not as
good as it could be. But whatever, the point is
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that it doesn't matter a good game, bad game. People watch,
people bet and they make tons of money. Right, do
you think they care that much about Shador Sanders that
they think him in the NFL hurts their product? Now?
Or so much so that they would tell you not
to try. Like again, think of the logic behind and
it's the same logic I used with Eric b Enemy right,
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because what you would get from people who were the
conspiracy theorists or they wanted to bring racial politics into
it was he wasn't getting the job because he's black. Like,
they don't care if you're white or black. They just
want to win football games. It it's a professional organization.
They clearly don't care about Deshaun Watson his off the
field stuff, otherwise they wouldn't have given him a five
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year guaranteed contract that we had ever seen before. They
don't care about your race. They don't care about your
sexual orientation, They really don't. They just care are we
going to win football games? Not one point and we're not. Goodbye,
good bye. That's my feeling on it.
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Bolan's a good friend of ours. He joins us on
a weekly basis. During the NFL season, he did an
interview with the Boston Globe. Excuse me, interview with Bill
Belichick in an interview with Ben Volan of the Boston Globe.
And you know, Belichick's now coaching college football's saying and
the praises of college football, but he did so well.
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Take a listen or yeah, listen this quote. There's no owner,
there's no owner's son, there's no salary cap, everything that
goes with the marketing and everything else, which I'm all
for that, but it's way less of what it was
at that level. Generic NFL teams, you have the owner
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of the president of the general manager, the personnel director,
the college director, the pro director, the cap guy, some
other consultant than a head coach. I'd say when we
had our best years in New England, we had fewer
people and more direct vision, and as that expanded, it
became harder to be successful. Was that a shot at
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the Patriots? You're damn right, it was, But it's also
a shot at how business is done. It's no different
than the Johnny Manzel being drafted by Cleveland where reportedly
they didn't want to draft him and the owner came
in draft day and said take him, or potentially what
happened with Cleveland this year where they didn't want to
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take they didn't want to take Shador and the owner's like,
what are we doing? Go take Shador? Owners own, that's
the expression owner's own. Hey, I put up the money.
That's my money, that's my family, that's my name, that's
my business. You're great, you're the head coach. I love you,
but we're gonna do what I want to do. So
is Bill Belichick spitting truths?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Is he taking a shot at the Patriots. Yes, he
wouldn't have said no owner, no owner's son, because they're
both involved. But then he went on to say, like
any team, they're all like this, they're all like this,
And this is why college football is a coach's game,
because you get your own fiefdom and This is why
college football coaches struggled so much to get to the
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end when they get to the NFL. In college, it's
all about them and the pros. It's not really about
them if you win, it's about the quarterback and the
owner with the coach. Mark Dominic joins us. He spent
over forty years and that's forty Sorry, Mark, my bad.
I just aged spent over twenty years in NFL front
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offices and scouting. He's a former gentlemenager of the Tampay Buccaneers.
He joined us in the Doug Otlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Obviously you worked tell with the Tampay Buccaneers.
How is it simply would a coach make a decision
on his own with the Bucks when you were there?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
No, No, it didn't work out that way. You know.
It was always kind of a joint combination of conversations, right,
I mean that was the goal. It was like, let's
let's just kind of all figured out together, and let's
work together to come up with the best solution we
can for each situation. So no, we never kind of
gotten that kind of situation whatsoever. And that was including
all the years I was there. Whether it was Sam Which,
Tony Dungee, John Gruden, Rahie Morris, Craig Ciano. You know,
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no no coach walked in. Was like this is how
it's going to be, but certainly had influence in terms
of what we're thinking about.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, I got a bunch of things. Help me explain this.
Jaystuo has a sort of a theory here on the
Micah Parsons thing. It's like he knows the Michaeh Parsons
thing is going to get done, but it's like he
wants to wait until this docuseries plays out, and it's
all kind of the you know, making people watch this
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docuseries and think, well, the Cowboys it's a little bit
of a fluff thing, right, The Cowboys are awesome, They're amazing,
and then they kind of own the media for the preseason.
Is that possibly accurate?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah? I still think the deal gets done. I mean
what the reports today that they're wanting you know, four, three,
four or five first round picks to get Micah Parsons
off the team. I mean, I just think that the
negotiations went really bad and very frustrating. And when you
negotiate with the player directly in your ownership. That is
pretty taboo, and you know, whatever said and understood, there's
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a reason why an agent has a fee and he's
trying to negotiate the best interest of the play or so.
I think this got convoluted for a little bit. I
think that they're just trying to make Micah kind of
sweat a little bit more. But I still think this
Gil gets done for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Did you think that the Colts would make Andrew Anthony
Richardson lose the job instead of what they did, which
they gave it to Danny Dimes.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Well, I just think that, you know, it's a unique thing.
I mean, that's that's Chris Ballard's been in a very
unique spot and not many general managers in the history
of the game have ever been kind of where he's
been in the general manager world. You go back to
when he was in his rookie year as a gym.
You know, it was Jacoby Brissett, second year, Andrew luck
third year, Jacoby Brissett, fourth year, Rivers fifth wins, sixth,
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Matt Ryan seventh mentioned, now Anthony Richardson, and now suddenly
you know Daniel Jones. I mean, that's that's amazing. It's
nine years, nine different starting quarterbacks of the season. That's
I don't think I've ever heard of that except uh,
you know that that's just what's happened. And I think
what's happened with Anthony Rigidson is who's played himself out
of the position, and they felt like, you know, everybody
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understands how important the season is for the Colts, and
I think they felt like Daniel Jones to give him
a better chance and more consistency.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I want to play for you something that Eric Dickerson said.
It was in relations to Shador Sanders and where he
was drafted. This is Eric Dickerson, the Hall of Famer,
on a M five seventy in Los Angeles, and.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'll tell you as much here what I and what
I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the
NFL put it told other don't draft him, do not
draft him. We're gonna make hi we're gonna make an
example out of him. And this came from a very
good source, a very good source. And he said that
I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said,
don't do that. Draft really, yep, draft him, don't don'tn't
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do that because they weren't go drafted either. They weren't
going to drafted.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But but they they did. I put it at zero
percent chance that the NFL colluded to non draft Door Sanders.
What percentage chance would you put it in?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, if I put it as zero percent chance as well,
and I feel pretty good about that. Look, you can't
no one does that. I understand. You know, I've met
Eric Dickerson. I think he's amazing, but I think he's wrong.
I just there's just no way that you're going to
put yourself in that kind of situation. The league cannot
collude like that, or would they want to. Clubs didn't
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want the show, right, they didn't want everything else that
came along with him, is what they were concerned about.
So that, Yeah, was he a second round, third round talent?
I still think he was. But I think what clubs
said is like, do we really want the circus to
come to town? And you know, I think the Door
has done a pretty good job and his dad has
done pretty good job of trying not to make it
as bad as it's been or that people predicted it
could be. But at the same point, you know, I mean,
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don't believe that I think one hundred percent that you know,
Cleveland made the decision to go trade back up and
they'll get him. That's their own call. But no one
sat around and said he just don't draft your door standards.
I think everybody started once the ball started dropping. Sometimes
people got a little nervous. Maybe other people are like, well,
it's no one's gona draft them, Not that they colluded
or told each other that. I think that's not true
at all.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah. I'm also you know, the the interviews for such
a disaster. I mean, you know how it worked because
you've been in those those those that you call other people.
Do you guys, do you guys have to do it? Yeah?
It was it was rough. It was rough. People talk,
they talk, but they don't alude, Like the NFL doesn't collude.
You don't run the risk of a billion dollar lawsuit
because of because of a second day quarter second or
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third day quarterback.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
That is correct. There's no way that you're gonna put
yourself in that kind of situation and hopefully should do her,
which I think he will will end up having a
chance to play and start for the Cleveland Browns this year.
I think it will happen. But I gotta wait to
see you.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
Dominic's our guest form general manager Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I
I'm trying to figure out what the Lions are going
to look like. I'm trying to not get caught in
the circles of conversation of teams that aren't or haven't
been good Cowboys as the example, Lions have been really good,
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but they lost a lot some personnel and the coordinators.
What's your best guess on their year?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I still think Detroit. I think Green Bay's really closed it.
I think it's gonna be very close between those two teams.
I lean a little bit more towards the Packers, but
I think the Lions are right up there still. I mean,
I think the big thing for the Lions is, yes,
the coordinators are you know, that hurts a little bit certainly,
But the players. You know, as as the old Scott
used to say, you know, it's hard to you can find,
you know, a good coach, that's hard to find an
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elite player or or vice versa. Right, it's a lot
harder to find the player than it is really the
coach and I know that sounds terrible. Same for the GM. Right,
you draft the right guy, Tom Brady and suddenly you're
a great GM. You draft the wrong one and you're not.
It's just that simple. But it's about the players, and
the Detroit still has a lot of great players because
Brad Holmes has done such a good job the GM.
The Detroit Lions has done a great job of building
that roster. So I think they're both neck and neck
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at probably is one game apart, but they're both playoff
teams and I think they both can represent the NFC
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Where are you on Matt Stafford? He's missed so much
time with the back. Now he's back, but you know
there's i mean, Garoppolo behind him, who's not even where
he was when he took the Niners to the Super Bowl.
What are your thoughts on what we should expect from
Matt Stafford this year?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Well, I still feel like, you know, he's gonna slowly
work himself. We've got a lot of time still, We've
got a few weeks before he's got to be on
the football field. So in that way, I feel good
about where he sits and that I think he'll be
the starter. You know, can they massage him through the season.
I believe so. Could Matt Stafford miss a game or two, sure,
But I feel like they've kind of slow played this
the whole way on purpose to make sure that they
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get Matt Stafford to the starting line, and we as
the media, like to kind of build a friendly around it.
But I think he'll be fine, and you know, can
he stay fine? Sure? I mean, I think again, you're
going to manage his practice, You're going to manage you know,
how how much he gets out there. But I think
that they knew all along he's gonna be ready for
week one, and I think they've enjoyed the game. But
I think I think Matt Stafford's going to be fine
week one.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
How far away is Jackson Dart.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Well, I still don't think they want to start in
week one. I mean, I think that they're very happy
with them. But I think what they're going to want
to do is play the let the fans cheer for him,
assuming that you know, Tommy doesn't continue to go out
and throw you know, three or four touchdown. No, it's
Jackson Dart's team for the future. But I think what
they want to do is like, let Jamis go out
there a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
If he's get Russell Wilson to Russell's.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Excuse me, Russell Wilson, sorry, but that you got Russell Wilson.
Let him go out there, I apologies and see how
he does and let him have it's his team and
let Jackson kind of just kind of grow and sit there.
And I think Jackson Darton might be more in the
Patrick Mahomes world this year, where there might be a
game where he gets to play like Patrick did against
the Denver Broncos in his rookie year and that was it. Basically,
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I think that's going to be more of what we're seeing.
I think that they'll they'll go with Russell. They obviously
have Jenamis, like I said, I'm sorry, and and Jackson's
going to sit there and and just kind of be
a fixture. And if there's an opportunity to get him playtime,
I think they will because there's nothing more important than
a young guy actually being on the There's one thing
the as you know, Doug, you know you can go
like a way, Here's what I think I would have
done with that ball, And this is what I think
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until you go out in the field like why do
you make that decision? And they can learn so much faster,
and so I think that's what you're going to see
from Jackson Dartis. I think you're going to see, let's
not let's not push them out there. We don't have to.
We're not you know where Cleveland is where you just
got to throw somebody out there and maybe hopefully it sticks.
I think from the Giants, I think there's excitement and
hope for them, but they don't want to rush it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
The Bears open up with the Vikings at home. Now
part of part of me sits there and goes like, man,
Bears got to be bummed because a Dome team, you
really want to get them in November and December at
Soldier Field. But you know, both these teams they give
us a look at uh two talented former first round
draft picks from last year at quarterback. You know, look,
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the Bears thing in Caleb Williams is going to be
really interesting. Early on in camp people were like, this
doesn't work. Before last week that the really good, really
well played preseason game, You're like, I don't think it's
a great fit. Right, That's what you would I discussed
Vikings at Lions, Cowboys at Raiders, Bye Week at Commanders,
Saints at Ravens at Bengals, Like it gets real really
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really quick for Caleb Williams. Yeah does it work?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, it does. And I think that's great. We've got
to put him out there and got to see exactly
what he can do and what the you know, this
offensive line can do for And they've done everything it
can to say, hey, Caleb, how good are you? And
now it's Caleb's turned to show everybody that he deserves
to be the number one pick or deserve to be
top two picks in the draft. And you know, I
think the opportunity is there. I mean, I love that
they added Colson loves Lovely. I think he's a huge
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piece of Cocomet, like having a two tight ends set
along with the ride receivers and the running. I mean,
I just love what they did is the offensive line,
so everything's the table set. There's no excuses, and I
think Caleb Williams should have to be happy about that.
They're giving you every chance you can to be the star,
and let's see if you can do it. I'm not sure.
I don't really know. What I've seen enough of. Hmm.
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I've been impressed at times where I've like, those are
some really good throws, but it just still feels like
it's not as natural of conversation coming out of Chicago,
like yeah, he's going to be the dude like we
saw with the Commanders, or even kind of like what
we heard in Denver early on with the bone Nix,
Like hey, this is a lot different than it's even
what we thought him better. I think that's kind of
the thing that's not been felt by Caleb. It's more like, yeah,
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he's coming a long ways kind of a thing. Instead.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
He's Mark Dominic. You'll hear him every week. He's former
Tennant Bay Buccaneers general manager. He spent his entire professional
life in the Nation Football League, and he gives us
just so much great information. Mark, have a great weekend.
We're getting closer. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, thanks for having me on. Doug enjoyed the last
seven preseason games. We'll talk to you next week.
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Speaker 4 (30:09):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Dan Byer, what's the game today, Doug?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
The game today is I got DIBs.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I got all right, four topics on the table. Some
may take some thinking. The first one maybe not so much.
I quote tweeted this video Adam Scheffer put out of
Jameis Winston and Jackson Dart and Tommy DeVito calling themselves
the Three Amigos after last night's preseason finale against New England.
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And I just thought it was odd that Russell Wilson
wasn't in this video and is not a part of
their Three Amigos trio. So I ask you, guys, the
current Giants quarterback that you'd want on your team?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, dibbs, Doug, Jameis Winston.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Jamis seems like he's pulling everybody together.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I would say, yes, that's what he does, and he's
talent enough to play.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I got DIBs on Jackson Darts just because of the
future and what could what could happen?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Yep, I got DIBs on my guy de Vito, Tommy
Devita because whenever we talk about DeVito for some reason,
all that nonsense about cultural appropriation, woke we should be
is throw at the window. Could we could do mafia
jokes when we talk about DeVito? That's why I want
them on my team.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, Sam, I got Div's unknowing. Oh he didn't take
Russell Wilson. Yeah, he's going to pass on that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Apparently Russell Wilson has has unlimited freedom to join
whoever he wants.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yes, it's not on Sam's team all right. In honor
of the George gastanz Up bobblehead that was given out
at Yankee Stadium last night. Favorite Seinfeld episode, Favorite Seinfeld episode, Go.
I got DIBs on MERV Griffin Set. That was my favorite.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
That's a great one.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
When Kramer finds the set and the trash and then
builds it in his apartment.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean, I got DIBs on Master of My Domain.
It's probably the most famous one, But is.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It the best one? That's the question. Is it your
favorite one. Oh so I got DIBs.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Is master of your domain where they're all trying to
withhold from sex. Different one I should say, yeah, for
a bet, is that the same? You're You're almost You're
almost there? Sam, Wait, what what do you mean? What
part did I get wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Let's let's just yes. Yeah, let's just go with yes
for now. We'll explain.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Oh no, no, okay, I got it. Yeap ye catch.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
I got DIBs on an episode I don't know the
name of. I just know that it's a bad whiting
because I still use it on my day to day.
I mean, there are women and our wife that are
like man, she's great given certain lighting. And that comes
right from Seinfeld.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, there's there's the remember he had the one with
the lip reader. There's the Kenny Rogers chicken.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Dang it, Doug, that's the one I got DIBs on.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I already picked one. I'm just giving you.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Sammed it up, honestly, he just sammed it up. Sammed
it up, he did.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
But in Doug's defense, this is a jumping in game,
and no one was jumping in.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm just waiting for you guys to wrap it.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Up like us allowing you to think Sam kind of
not good for radio.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Just waiting for you guys to rap here.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Here's the other funny thing is during the commercial break,
Sam told me an episode that he really liked as well,
which is actually one of my favorites.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
I thought, I said, that's a candidate. I didn't say
I thought it was. I said it was the Serenity Now.
I've been yelling out Serenity now all day today, and
I thought, maybe I'll pick that one. But I'm gonna
go with Kenny Rogers Roaster because there's a there's a
part where a newman has to eat broccoli and he
goes vile weed.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I love that part.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
That choice is almost as questionable as Sam's white jeans
shorts choice.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's wrong with my shorts.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
White jeans.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
They're not they're not denim. They're just short white shorts.
They're very classy.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
I've not seen these well, I've been sitting you can't
see from the waist down here.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's true. It's like someone in an anchor.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Stay.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
No one brought up festivus. I mean a lot to
choose from.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
A lot, all right, favorite time of day to play golf?
What time of day. Do you like to tee it
up the best? I got DIBs on late afternoon to go.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Late afternoon's that's a great one. This is going to
be interesting. I got DIBs on early afternoon. And let
me let me follow up with why I don't like
people like I like golf. I don't want to wait,
and you know, morning everybody tries to get that first.
If you get the first one out, you can be
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pretty good right nobody in front of you. But after
that you can get backed up. Afternoon. Yeah, I do
get a little lady add but like if you get there,
I don't know, two three in the afternoon where it's
really hot, it just scares people off by the time
you tee off late afternoon. I'm on the twelfth, twelfth tea.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
I thought Doug's choice was going to be whatever day
of the time of the day that Stanvrett's.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Not there, I'll stand for it it right now.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So Sun, let's say, Sun, let's say you're going to
play on Sunday. Dog, what would be the best time
to play on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Same thing? Honestly, like during the football during the as
much as as sacrilegious sounds during the football games. I'm
just saying, you don't have to wait like I like
to play quickly. Sure, I like to play, I don't
like peanut brown like I enjoy it. Also, I can
still play quickly and find my ball if it goes astray.
Whereas just if there's numbers behind you, in numbers in
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front you, just I know you're spread out by three
hundred or so yards, But I feel a little bit
of golf anxiety.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Sunday maybe like that or night a country club or
something on August twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know that that might work, you know, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, that'll be late afternoon.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Finally, on the Cracker Barrel Drama notable non sports logos,
Cracker Barrel changes their logo Everyone's up like Wendy's great logo.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Speaking of w's, I got DIBs on Walgreen's W, looking
exactly like the Nationals W. Somebody rips somebody off. What's
going on there?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Fly that curly W whatever you say. It's like the
Nike Swoosh swoosh.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
I was thinking about this and I don't even know
where to begin, So I'll just go one that always
pops off the salt container. The Morton Salt Girl's pretty detailed. Yeah, yeah, yes,
it's a good logo.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
That's Are they bringing an inch of my my back?
I've heard rumors of them bring an in.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Coming up on The Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports.
Notable non sports logos. I think part of my thing
with Wendy's is I kind of think Wendy's like gets
lost in that discussion. They're really good burgers, really good burgers.
Coming on next to the Doug Gottlieb Show, Jerry Jones
is negotiating while doing a publicity tour for his documentary
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It's a football Friday. College football is here as we're
at week zero. You made it, you made it, you
made it. We'll make fun of something ESPN posted. That's
always fun. Mark Dominical join us. That's always enter interesting.
(00:48):
A really interesting hypotheses from Jason Stewart on Jerry Jones.
I want to share that with you. I remier backpedaling
like a defensive back and was Bill Belichick kind of
privately raking the crafts. We got a bunch to get to,
but I want to start with someone who Jay stew
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you worked with somebody who I like, and we grew
up watching play as one of the greatest football players
we've ever seen play. But he did the thing that
I just I find to be not good bizarre and
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sort of a credibility killer. On the other hand, it
is feeding the masses the sugar that they so desire,
even if it's bad for you, even if it's bad
for you. And like I remember when when the president
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got elected his his first term, and I had I
have several friends, black friends, mixed race friends, and especially
friends from their foreign friends, and there was you know,
between some of the travel band and some of the narratives,
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there was the thought of for me, I did not
know there was a level of xenophobia and racism that
was being promoted. On the other hand, some of it
I had to take a step back and go, Okay,
how much of this is real? How much of this
is And when I say media created, it's the media
is drawn to the fringes left and right right. But
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I'm just somebody, And Jason, I think you can I
don't know if you're can attest to this or not.
When you grew up in California, it's so weird to
hear people talk like racial politics. And I know that
California there's become a level of racial politics. But again,
you grew up and look, you grew up in a
part of Orange County, which was mostly white, but it
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wasn't super rich. It was lower middle income, and there
were Hispanics as well. I grew up in a very
diverse part of Orange, California. Obviously, playing basketball, y're surrounded
by people of color. So when I heard about, you know,
like people saying there's still all this racism, I was like, really,
and then we read about it, you watch on the
(03:23):
news like, well, maybe there is, But then you settle
back down to the Hey, sports is a place where racism.
We've generally evolved out of it. Yes, we still use
stereotypes fair, unfair, mostly unfair, but we still use stereotypes.
We do. But the idea that and we've talked about
(03:45):
this before with Eric b Enemy, that because he was
a black man, he could get a head coaching job.
When I've walked you through many times over the feedback
I've gotten from people who have interviewed him but not
hired him as a head coach. Now it's not even
part of the conversation. I remember. You go back, not
this past year, the five previous years probably, and Eric
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the Enemy was discussed of you gotta hire this guy.
He not anywhere close to being disgusted. It's crazy like
he's slightly ahead of where Colin Kaepernick is to be
a starting quarterback where he is to be a head
coach in the NFL slightly. So that brings me to
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Eric Dickerson, Hall of Fame running back, two thousand yard
season and Eric, he's never been shy to say what
he thinks. That's why his nickname with the Rams was
the first four letters of his last name, right, So
this was Eric Dickerson, remember super opinionated Hall of Fame
(04:55):
former Ram and Colt on Rogan and Rodney on our.
I am Affiliate five.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And I'll tell you as much here what I and
what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that
the NFL put it told other don't draft him, do
not draft him. We're gonna make up, we're gonna make
an example out of him. And this came from a
very good source, a very good source. And he said
that I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns
and said, don't do that. Really, yep, draft him, don't
(05:24):
don'tn't do that because they weren't go drafted either. They
weren't gonna drafted.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Only they did right. Only they did. Okay, I'm not
denying that Eric Dickerson knows NFL people. I'm not denying
that people haven't talked a lot about Shador Sanders and
where he was drafted. But the NFL has been accused
of or even sued for collusion several times over the
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past five years. Do we really think that thirty two
teams who want to win football games, if they thought
Shador Sanders was good enough. Do you really think that
(06:13):
Roger Goodell or somebody of power would have picked up
the phone and say don't draft him and risk not
millions billions of dollars if that story was true and
got out right. Because that's an easy one. You know,
it's not truly a free market, but there's still free
market principles. Things you can't do. You can't call teams
(06:35):
in your league and say, do not draft this player
because we want to make an example out of him
when he's committed no real crime other than being an arrogant,
entitled Ridge Kidd who flaunted his wealth while playing college
football and disengaged in interviews with teams he didn't want
(06:59):
to go to, and did so in a fashion that
was hard to take for most teams in the league,
Like I'm not sure about a lot of things. A
scientific factor is only ninety seven percent. This screws people
up that don't know science. Like one of the things
science does is they leave room for the outliers and
(07:22):
the very small chance, but a scientifically proven fact, it's
like ninety seven percent chance that's right, or even ninety nine.
But with ninety nine, there's that one percent. Right. I
am one hundred percent certain the sunrise in the east
and sets in the west, and that there was no
collusion to keep Shador Sanders out of the league because
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the league was trying to make a point about him.
And what's crazy is and this is where it's really
poison It's really poisoned because this is the type of
internet rumor that we see really in Washington. Now. You know,
we've we're employing conspiracy theorists to make major decisions for
(08:09):
the current and future of our country, right, And this
is just a conspiracy theory And this is who we become.
And I gotta tell you, like Eric Dickerson, I would
have him on one time for this, and that would
really it because that's a credibility killer. You run the
risk of being sued by the National Football League, a multi, multi, multi,
(08:32):
multi billion dollar industry, because they don't want to get
sued for collusion. So if they don't, okay, if he
doesn't retract, he's saying they cocluded and they said nothing
about it. And it's not like it's what's the guy
who tweets at the show Jay stew J always talk
about is it race car forty seven?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Corvette Corvette Guy twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's not Corvette Guy twenty seven. This is Eric freaking Dickerson.
This is two thousand yard season. This is a Hall
of Fame running back who used to be on Monday
Night Football as a broadcaster. And listen, I'm telling you
that he's wrong. I'm telling you whoever he talked to
is like, well this people are saying this is this
is like a trump Ism, right, and this is honestly
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what's kind of happened with the president where he can
say whatever and nobody calls him on it, and if
you call them on it, you know, I mean, he's
they're just gonna move on. Doesn't work out way. You
can't say that the NFL colluded to keep Shador Sanders
out to make a point, and you're like, well, of course,
like ka, of course they would Why why would they
if Shadoor Sanders can win them football games? Nobody cares.
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And the easiest example of that is the actual who
should be the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns, right,
Deshaun Watson was accused of sexual assault up to over
forty times, settled many of these settled some of these suits,
(10:04):
and yet the Cleveland Browns offered him a five year,
guaranteed contract the likes of which we had never seen before.
Not because he's white, he's not. He's black. Not because
he wanted Clemson or he wanted Houston, or because they
thought he could win in Cleveland. That's it. They're tired
of looking for a quarterback and they had this is
their only way to get a quarterback. If you think
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that's true, you're just feeding into internet rumors. And that's
what Eric Dickerson's doing, and it it creates this vicious
cycle of well, it's because he's it's it's the loud
black guy that they want to keep out of like
nobody Now, well, yes, yes, you want to keep out
a guy who has a gigantic ego when you're supposed
to walk in, humble pie and make people believe in you.
You gotta believe in yourself. But having a videographer, having
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listened in to your own own song on a you know,
on a portable speaker, walking in, not carrying your own bag,
like lo, bro, you're a fifth round pick. Take it easy,
carry somebody else's bag, humble pie. But again, like I understand,
we all understand the position, right, And again I love
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people that want to make it about race, Like, hey,
cam Ward's number one pick, He's black, right, And there's
the famous video with cam Ward and him working out
and he's talking about all these other things, and cam
Ward's like, I do football, right, I do football. So
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I'm not one hundred percent about a lot of things.
I'm not, you know, not one a lot of them,
ninety seven to ninety nine percent. I'm sure the sun
rise in the east and sets in the west, and
that there is no collusion to keep store Sanders out
of the NFL. Shadoor Sanders dug Shadoor Sanders' own proverbial
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draft day grave a grave. He and his dad wanted
to determine where they were going, and so they they
they acted like the worst possible first state ever. We're
not engaged, not paying attention, answering their phone during an interview.
Like what I have been told again, you want to
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go buy sources that what we've heard about the interviews
is probably seventy five percent as bad as the one
hundred percent that it actually was. And what happens in
those interviews is everyone knows somebody like we talked to
in coaching, we talked to everybody, Like I text with
our rivals head coach on a day. That's Bart Lundy
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at Milwaukee, Like like we openly they'll take shots at us,
will take shots, but like, look but still we're in
the same business and we're in the same league. We're
in the same state. Ever been in the NFL talks,
it's not collusion. If you go, how is Shador? You're
not gonna believe this, but he answered the phone in
the middle of an interview, You're not gonna believe this.
But he completely blew off Brian Dable at the whiteboard.
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You're not gonna believe this. But yeah, that spreads. That's
not collusion, that's sharing information. And they're all like, I
just I want nothing to do with that. But that's
not what Eric Dickerson said. What Eric Dickerson said, okay,
and we have it on tape is hey, I heard
somebody that somebody from the NFL called and say, do
not draft this guy. We want to make a point
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of it. That is collusion. And again I don't think
I know that no one is that stupid. It's just
like people who say NBA games are fixed, because all
it takes is one person to send out one text,
you know, or to screenshot one thing, and the entire
NBA loses all of the ability to have gambling on
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the NBA, which is a billion dollar industry. The NFL
is on fire. Jason points it out every week. Okay,
he calls it the zarupa effect, right where the NFL
knows they're putting out a bad product and yet people
watch anyway. I don't think they know they're watching a
bad product. I do think they know it's not as
good as it could be. But whatever, the point is
(14:12):
that it doesn't matter a good game, bad game. People watch,
people bet and they make tons of money. Right, do
you think they care that much about Shador Sanders that
they think him in the NFL hurts their product? Now?
Or so much so that they would tell you not
to try. Like again, think of the logic behind and
it's the same logic I used with Eric b Enemy right,
(14:34):
because what you would get from people who were the
conspiracy theorists or they wanted to bring racial politics into
it was he wasn't getting the job because he's black. Like,
they don't care if you're white or black. They just
want to win football games. It it's a professional organization.
They clearly don't care about Deshaun Watson his off the
field stuff, otherwise they wouldn't have given him a five
(14:56):
year guaranteed contract that we had ever seen before. They
don't care about your race. They don't care about your
sexual orientation, They really don't. They just care are we
going to win football games? Not one point and we're not. Goodbye,
good bye. That's my feeling on it.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
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Bolan's a good friend of ours. He joins us on
a weekly basis. During the NFL season, he did an
interview with the Boston Globe. Excuse me, interview with Bill
Belichick in an interview with Ben Volan of the Boston Globe.
And you know, Belichick's now coaching college football's saying and
the praises of college football, but he did so well.
(16:05):
Take a listen or yeah, listen this quote. There's no owner,
there's no owner's son, there's no salary cap, everything that
goes with the marketing and everything else, which I'm all
for that, but it's way less of what it was
at that level. Generic NFL teams, you have the owner
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of the president of the general manager, the personnel director,
the college director, the pro director, the cap guy, some
other consultant than a head coach. I'd say when we
had our best years in New England, we had fewer
people and more direct vision, and as that expanded, it
became harder to be successful. Was that a shot at
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the Patriots? You're damn right, it was, But it's also
a shot at how business is done. It's no different
than the Johnny Manzel being drafted by Cleveland where reportedly
they didn't want to draft him and the owner came
in draft day and said take him, or potentially what
happened with Cleveland this year where they didn't want to
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take they didn't want to take Shador and the owner's like,
what are we doing? Go take Shador? Owners own, that's
the expression owner's own. Hey, I put up the money.
That's my money, that's my family, that's my name, that's
my business. You're great, you're the head coach. I love you,
but we're gonna do what I want to do. So
is Bill Belichick spitting truths?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Is he taking a shot at the Patriots. Yes, he
wouldn't have said no owner, no owner's son, because they're
both involved. But then he went on to say, like
any team, they're all like this, they're all like this,
And this is why college football is a coach's game,
because you get your own fiefdom and This is why
college football coaches struggled so much to get to the
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end when they get to the NFL. In college, it's
all about them and the pros. It's not really about
them if you win, it's about the quarterback and the
owner with the coach. Mark Dominic joins us. He spent
over forty years and that's forty Sorry, Mark, my bad.
I just aged spent over twenty years in NFL front
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offices and scouting. He's a former gentlemenager of the Tampay Buccaneers.
He joined us in the Doug Otlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Obviously you worked tell with the Tampay Buccaneers.
How is it simply would a coach make a decision
on his own with the Bucks when you were there?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
No, No, it didn't work out that way. You know.
It was always kind of a joint combination of conversations, right,
I mean that was the goal. It was like, let's
let's just kind of all figured out together, and let's
work together to come up with the best solution we
can for each situation. So no, we never kind of
gotten that kind of situation whatsoever. And that was including
all the years I was there. Whether it was Sam Which,
Tony Dungee, John Gruden, Rahie Morris, Craig Ciano. You know,
(18:50):
no no coach walked in. Was like this is how
it's going to be, but certainly had influence in terms
of what we're thinking about.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, I got a bunch of things. Help me explain this.
Jaystuo has a sort of a theory here on the
Micah Parsons thing. It's like he knows the Michaeh Parsons
thing is going to get done, but it's like he
wants to wait until this docuseries plays out, and it's
all kind of the you know, making people watch this
(19:18):
docuseries and think, well, the Cowboys it's a little bit
of a fluff thing, right, The Cowboys are awesome, They're amazing,
and then they kind of own the media for the preseason.
Is that possibly accurate?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah? I still think the deal gets done. I mean
what the reports today that they're wanting you know, four, three,
four or five first round picks to get Micah Parsons
off the team. I mean, I just think that the
negotiations went really bad and very frustrating. And when you
negotiate with the player directly in your ownership. That is
pretty taboo, and you know, whatever said and understood, there's
(19:56):
a reason why an agent has a fee and he's
trying to negotiate the best interest of the play or so.
I think this got convoluted for a little bit. I
think that they're just trying to make Micah kind of
sweat a little bit more. But I still think this
Gil gets done for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Did you think that the Colts would make Andrew Anthony
Richardson lose the job instead of what they did, which
they gave it to Danny Dimes.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Well, I just think that, you know, it's a unique thing.
I mean, that's that's Chris Ballard's been in a very
unique spot and not many general managers in the history
of the game have ever been kind of where he's
been in the general manager world. You go back to
when he was in his rookie year as a gym.
You know, it was Jacoby Brissett, second year, Andrew luck
third year, Jacoby Brissett, fourth year, Rivers fifth wins, sixth,
(20:44):
Matt Ryan seventh mentioned, now Anthony Richardson, and now suddenly
you know Daniel Jones. I mean, that's that's amazing. It's
nine years, nine different starting quarterbacks of the season. That's
I don't think I've ever heard of that except uh,
you know that that's just what's happened. And I think
what's happened with Anthony Rigidson is who's played himself out
of the position, and they felt like, you know, everybody
(21:05):
understands how important the season is for the Colts, and
I think they felt like Daniel Jones to give him
a better chance and more consistency.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I want to play for you something that Eric Dickerson said.
It was in relations to Shador Sanders and where he
was drafted. This is Eric Dickerson, the Hall of Famer,
on a M five seventy in Los Angeles, and.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'll tell you as much here what I and what
I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the
NFL put it told other don't draft him, do not
draft him. We're gonna make hi we're gonna make an
example out of him. And this came from a very
good source, a very good source. And he said that
I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said,
don't do that. Draft really, yep, draft him, don't don'tn't
(21:48):
do that because they weren't go drafted either. They weren't
going to drafted.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But but they they did. I put it at zero
percent chance that the NFL colluded to non draft Door Sanders.
What percentage chance would you put it in?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, if I put it as zero percent chance as well,
and I feel pretty good about that. Look, you can't
no one does that. I understand. You know, I've met
Eric Dickerson. I think he's amazing, but I think he's wrong.
I just there's just no way that you're going to
put yourself in that kind of situation. The league cannot
collude like that, or would they want to. Clubs didn't
(22:24):
want the show, right, they didn't want everything else that
came along with him, is what they were concerned about.
So that, Yeah, was he a second round, third round talent?
I still think he was. But I think what clubs
said is like, do we really want the circus to
come to town? And you know, I think the Door
has done a pretty good job and his dad has
done pretty good job of trying not to make it
as bad as it's been or that people predicted it
could be. But at the same point, you know, I mean,
(22:46):
don't believe that I think one hundred percent that you know,
Cleveland made the decision to go trade back up and
they'll get him. That's their own call. But no one
sat around and said he just don't draft your door standards.
I think everybody started once the ball started dropping. Sometimes
people got a little nervous. Maybe other people are like, well,
it's no one's gona draft them, Not that they colluded
or told each other that. I think that's not true
at all.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah. I'm also you know, the the interviews for such
a disaster. I mean, you know how it worked because
you've been in those those those that you call other people.
Do you guys, do you guys have to do it? Yeah?
It was it was rough. It was rough. People talk,
they talk, but they don't alude, Like the NFL doesn't collude.
You don't run the risk of a billion dollar lawsuit
because of because of a second day quarter second or
(23:26):
third day quarterback.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
That is correct. There's no way that you're gonna put
yourself in that kind of situation and hopefully should do her,
which I think he will will end up having a
chance to play and start for the Cleveland Browns this year.
I think it will happen. But I gotta wait to
see you.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
Dominic's our guest form general manager Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I
I'm trying to figure out what the Lions are going
to look like. I'm trying to not get caught in
the circles of conversation of teams that aren't or haven't
been good Cowboys as the example, Lions have been really good,
(24:02):
but they lost a lot some personnel and the coordinators.
What's your best guess on their year?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I still think Detroit. I think Green Bay's really closed it.
I think it's gonna be very close between those two teams.
I lean a little bit more towards the Packers, but
I think the Lions are right up there still. I mean,
I think the big thing for the Lions is, yes,
the coordinators are you know, that hurts a little bit certainly,
But the players. You know, as as the old Scott
used to say, you know, it's hard to you can find,
you know, a good coach, that's hard to find an
(24:29):
elite player or or vice versa. Right, it's a lot
harder to find the player than it is really the
coach and I know that sounds terrible. Same for the GM. Right,
you draft the right guy, Tom Brady and suddenly you're
a great GM. You draft the wrong one and you're not.
It's just that simple. But it's about the players, and
the Detroit still has a lot of great players because
Brad Holmes has done such a good job the GM.
The Detroit Lions has done a great job of building
that roster. So I think they're both neck and neck
(24:51):
at probably is one game apart, but they're both playoff
teams and I think they both can represent the NFC
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Where are you on Matt Stafford? He's missed so much
time with the back. Now he's back, but you know
there's i mean, Garoppolo behind him, who's not even where
he was when he took the Niners to the Super Bowl.
What are your thoughts on what we should expect from
Matt Stafford this year?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Well, I still feel like, you know, he's gonna slowly
work himself. We've got a lot of time still, We've
got a few weeks before he's got to be on
the football field. So in that way, I feel good
about where he sits and that I think he'll be
the starter. You know, can they massage him through the season.
I believe so. Could Matt Stafford miss a game or two, sure,
But I feel like they've kind of slow played this
the whole way on purpose to make sure that they
(25:37):
get Matt Stafford to the starting line, and we as
the media, like to kind of build a friendly around it.
But I think he'll be fine, and you know, can
he stay fine? Sure? I mean, I think again, you're
going to manage his practice, You're going to manage you know,
how how much he gets out there. But I think
that they knew all along he's gonna be ready for
week one, and I think they've enjoyed the game. But
I think I think Matt Stafford's going to be fine
week one.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
How far away is Jackson Dart.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Well, I still don't think they want to start in
week one. I mean, I think that they're very happy
with them. But I think what they're going to want
to do is play the let the fans cheer for him,
assuming that you know, Tommy doesn't continue to go out
and throw you know, three or four touchdown. No, it's
Jackson Dart's team for the future. But I think what
they want to do is like, let Jamis go out
there a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
If he's get Russell Wilson to Russell's.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Excuse me, Russell Wilson, sorry, but that you got Russell Wilson.
Let him go out there, I apologies and see how
he does and let him have it's his team and
let Jackson kind of just kind of grow and sit there.
And I think Jackson Darton might be more in the
Patrick Mahomes world this year, where there might be a
game where he gets to play like Patrick did against
the Denver Broncos in his rookie year and that was it. Basically,
(26:44):
I think that's going to be more of what we're seeing.
I think that they'll they'll go with Russell. They obviously
have Jenamis, like I said, I'm sorry, and and Jackson's
going to sit there and and just kind of be
a fixture. And if there's an opportunity to get him playtime,
I think they will because there's nothing more important than
a young guy actually being on the There's one thing
the as you know, Doug, you know you can go
like a way, Here's what I think I would have
done with that ball, And this is what I think
(27:04):
until you go out in the field like why do
you make that decision? And they can learn so much faster,
and so I think that's what you're going to see
from Jackson Dartis. I think you're going to see, let's
not let's not push them out there. We don't have to.
We're not you know where Cleveland is where you just
got to throw somebody out there and maybe hopefully it sticks.
I think from the Giants, I think there's excitement and
hope for them, but they don't want to rush it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
The Bears open up with the Vikings at home. Now
part of part of me sits there and goes like, man,
Bears got to be bummed because a Dome team, you
really want to get them in November and December at
Soldier Field. But you know, both these teams they give
us a look at uh two talented former first round
draft picks from last year at quarterback. You know, look,
(27:48):
the Bears thing in Caleb Williams is going to be
really interesting. Early on in camp people were like, this
doesn't work. Before last week that the really good, really
well played preseason game, You're like, I don't think it's
a great fit. Right, That's what you would I discussed
Vikings at Lions, Cowboys at Raiders, Bye Week at Commanders,
Saints at Ravens at Bengals, Like it gets real really
(28:10):
really quick for Caleb Williams. Yeah does it work?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, it does. And I think that's great. We've got
to put him out there and got to see exactly
what he can do and what the you know, this
offensive line can do for And they've done everything it
can to say, hey, Caleb, how good are you? And
now it's Caleb's turned to show everybody that he deserves
to be the number one pick or deserve to be
top two picks in the draft. And you know, I
think the opportunity is there. I mean, I love that
they added Colson loves Lovely. I think he's a huge
(28:36):
piece of Cocomet, like having a two tight ends set
along with the ride receivers and the running. I mean,
I just love what they did is the offensive line,
so everything's the table set. There's no excuses, and I
think Caleb Williams should have to be happy about that.
They're giving you every chance you can to be the star,
and let's see if you can do it. I'm not sure.
I don't really know. What I've seen enough of. Hmm.
(28:56):
I've been impressed at times where I've like, those are
some really good throws, but it just still feels like
it's not as natural of conversation coming out of Chicago,
like yeah, he's going to be the dude like we
saw with the Commanders, or even kind of like what
we heard in Denver early on with the bone Nix,
Like hey, this is a lot different than it's even
what we thought him better. I think that's kind of
the thing that's not been felt by Caleb. It's more like, yeah,
(29:18):
he's coming a long ways kind of a thing. Instead.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
He's Mark Dominic. You'll hear him every week. He's former
Tennant Bay Buccaneers general manager. He spent his entire professional
life in the Nation Football League, and he gives us
just so much great information. Mark, have a great weekend.
We're getting closer. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, thanks for having me on. Doug enjoyed the last
seven preseason games. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
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Speaker 4 (30:09):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Dan Byer, what's the game today, Doug?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
The game today is I got DIBs.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I got all right, four topics on the table. Some
may take some thinking. The first one maybe not so much.
I quote tweeted this video Adam Scheffer put out of
Jameis Winston and Jackson Dart and Tommy DeVito calling themselves
the Three Amigos after last night's preseason finale against New England.
(30:42):
And I just thought it was odd that Russell Wilson
wasn't in this video and is not a part of
their Three Amigos trio. So I ask you, guys, the
current Giants quarterback that you'd want on your team?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, dibbs, Doug, Jameis Winston.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Jamis seems like he's pulling everybody together.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I would say, yes, that's what he does, and he's
talent enough to play.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I got DIBs on Jackson Darts just because of the
future and what could what could happen?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Yep, I got DIBs on my guy de Vito, Tommy
Devita because whenever we talk about DeVito for some reason,
all that nonsense about cultural appropriation, woke we should be
is throw at the window. Could we could do mafia
jokes when we talk about DeVito? That's why I want
them on my team.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, Sam, I got Div's unknowing. Oh he didn't take
Russell Wilson. Yeah, he's going to pass on that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Apparently Russell Wilson has has unlimited freedom to join
whoever he wants.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yes, it's not on Sam's team all right. In honor
of the George gastanz Up bobblehead that was given out
at Yankee Stadium last night. Favorite Seinfeld episode, Favorite Seinfeld episode, Go.
I got DIBs on MERV Griffin Set. That was my favorite.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
That's a great one.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
When Kramer finds the set and the trash and then
builds it in his apartment.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean, I got DIBs on Master of My Domain.
It's probably the most famous one, But is.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It the best one? That's the question. Is it your
favorite one. Oh so I got DIBs.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Is master of your domain where they're all trying to
withhold from sex. Different one I should say, yeah, for
a bet, is that the same? You're You're almost You're
almost there? Sam, Wait, what what do you mean? What
part did I get wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Let's let's just yes. Yeah, let's just go with yes
for now. We'll explain.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Oh no, no, okay, I got it. Yeap ye catch.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
I got DIBs on an episode I don't know the
name of. I just know that it's a bad whiting
because I still use it on my day to day.
I mean, there are women and our wife that are
like man, she's great given certain lighting. And that comes
right from Seinfeld.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, there's there's the remember he had the one with
the lip reader. There's the Kenny Rogers chicken.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Dang it, Doug, that's the one I got DIBs on.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I already picked one. I'm just giving you.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Sammed it up, honestly, he just sammed it up. Sammed
it up, he did.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
But in Doug's defense, this is a jumping in game,
and no one was jumping in.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm just waiting for you guys to wrap it.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Up like us allowing you to think Sam kind of
not good for radio.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Just waiting for you guys to rap here.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Here's the other funny thing is during the commercial break,
Sam told me an episode that he really liked as well,
which is actually one of my favorites.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
I thought, I said, that's a candidate. I didn't say
I thought it was. I said it was the Serenity Now.
I've been yelling out Serenity now all day today, and
I thought, maybe I'll pick that one. But I'm gonna
go with Kenny Rogers Roaster because there's a there's a
part where a newman has to eat broccoli and he
goes vile weed.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I love that part.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
That choice is almost as questionable as Sam's white jeans
shorts choice.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's wrong with my shorts.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
White jeans.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
They're not they're not denim. They're just short white shorts.
They're very classy.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
I've not seen these well, I've been sitting you can't
see from the waist down here.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's true. It's like someone in an anchor.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Stay.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
No one brought up festivus. I mean a lot to
choose from.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
A lot, all right, favorite time of day to play golf?
What time of day. Do you like to tee it
up the best? I got DIBs on late afternoon to go.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Late afternoon's that's a great one. This is going to
be interesting. I got DIBs on early afternoon. And let
me let me follow up with why I don't like
people like I like golf. I don't want to wait,
and you know, morning everybody tries to get that first.
If you get the first one out, you can be
(35:10):
pretty good right nobody in front of you. But after
that you can get backed up. Afternoon. Yeah, I do
get a little lady add but like if you get there,
I don't know, two three in the afternoon where it's
really hot, it just scares people off by the time
you tee off late afternoon. I'm on the twelfth, twelfth tea.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
I thought Doug's choice was going to be whatever day
of the time of the day that Stanvrett's.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Not there, I'll stand for it it right now.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So Sun, let's say, Sun, let's say you're going to
play on Sunday. Dog, what would be the best time
to play on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Same thing? Honestly, like during the football during the as
much as as sacrilegious sounds during the football games. I'm
just saying, you don't have to wait like I like
to play quickly. Sure, I like to play, I don't
like peanut brown like I enjoy it. Also, I can
still play quickly and find my ball if it goes astray.
Whereas just if there's numbers behind you, in numbers in
(36:09):
front you, just I know you're spread out by three
hundred or so yards, But I feel a little bit
of golf anxiety.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Sunday maybe like that or night a country club or
something on August twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know that that might work, you know, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, that'll be late afternoon.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Finally, on the Cracker Barrel Drama notable non sports logos,
Cracker Barrel changes their logo Everyone's up like Wendy's great logo.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Speaking of w's, I got DIBs on Walgreen's W, looking
exactly like the Nationals W. Somebody rips somebody off. What's
going on there?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Fly that curly W whatever you say. It's like the
Nike Swoosh swoosh.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
I was thinking about this and I don't even know
where to begin, So I'll just go one that always
pops off the salt container. The Morton Salt Girl's pretty detailed. Yeah, yeah, yes,
it's a good logo.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
That's Are they bringing an inch of my my back?
I've heard rumors of them bring an in.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Coming up on The Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports.
Notable non sports logos. I think part of my thing
with Wendy's is I kind of think Wendy's like gets
lost in that discussion. They're really good burgers, really good burgers.
Coming on next to the Doug Gottlieb Show, Jerry Jones
is negotiating while doing a publicity tour for his documentary
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