March Madness Bracket Reaction!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Sports Boom, What Up America Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio on a glorious day in the month
of March and sunny southern California. Welcome in, Man, do
we have a lot of sports to talk about? I mean,
it's gotta be March madness. When O j O J

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admits to double homicide, Tiger Woods nearly nearly cements his
comeback as a reality massive movement in the National Football League,
The Calves come to Los Angeles and get stomped by
the Lakers. And yet we're so wrapped up and talking
about John Calipari boo hooing his way to a five seed.

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That that's the power, I guess of this tournament. But man,
do we have a lot to get to metric Ton
to get to throughout the show, here's what we're gonna do.
Ryan Music asked me, he's my producer throughout the show,
will take your phone calls eight seven seven and Fox
eight seven seven nine nine on Fox. I still don't

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know what that number actually is. Six three six nine,
Is that right? Eight seven seven three six nine? Any
sort of Brackett basketball March madness question? Feel free and
the guys as well. What we'll do is as we go,
we'll fill all fill in their brackets and then we'll
post it on social media and we'll have our own
kind of brackets challenge. And what I do is, I'll

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go do this on our Fox Sports Basketball Twitter feed
as well, which is just simply take you through my
initial bracket. First thing I think of, first pick, and
then probably go back the day before and then the
tournament really begins on Thursday. I know there's the first
four on Tuesday and Wednesday, and some of you have
to have your bracket in. But then I'll go back
and I'll do kind of the thoughtful I'm thinking too

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much bracket, But the one we go buy is the
one the the initial quick thought. Here's the problem with
the sport that I love and a sport which opened
so many doors to me, College basketball. Love college basket,
a passion for it. You got the bracket, got the
n State Tournament, you got the final four. Oh, I

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love it right. I'm gonna tell you it's an atrocity
that Oklahoma State. It's loft. Tell the n c A
tournament it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. I'm an Oltcohoma State, Aluma.
It's not that it's not embarrassing they didn't make the tournament.
It's just like, okay, wait, they just beat Oklahoma badly

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and what looked like a thunder dome game, right, two
teams enter, one team leaves. Oklahoma lost eight out of
the last ten games, and they're in an Oklahoma State
hadn't and the resumes are similar. So I don't know.
I always thought sport was about how what you evolve into,
not what you start as Oklahoma started really well. Oklahoma

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State didn't start poorly, Like, let's not act like they
were terrible. Out of the shoot Bill lost to Texas
and m who made the tournament, was really good before
injuries and suspension, losta which tell State. It beat Florida State,
who made the tournament. By the way, Florida State kind
of phony resume. I don't know, but but here's the
Here is the biggest problem with selection. There's a bunch

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of problems with selection Sunday. I don't really understand. I
used to work at CBS. Yes, I miss being on
the Selection show. I'm gonna lie like, doesn't mean my
life isn't better overall, But the selection show itself. Of
course I miss it. It's the biggest show in college basketball.
It's on it for four years. Great, um, But I
don't really understand why it's so complicated to just have

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reveal bracket discussed teams, reveal bracket discussed teams, reveal bracket
discussed teams, and when you have more time, you have
more time to discuss and then hold off on the
last couple of teams in announced them last, you know,
because it's the part that's most interesting. I've never really
understood people who covered television. We're like, why don't you

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reveal the bracket right away? Why don't they hand out
the Best Picture of the Academy Awards right away? Because
there has to be some sort of suspense in a
live show. And there so we knew who was in
and who was out immediately, which of course caused a
lot of the bitching. Then we knew the seeds very
shortly thereafter which the bitching, uh continued. And now we

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have the brackets, to which people well, it's a loaded bracket.
That's a loaded bracket. And there's three things here, all right,
And the first is when you complain constantly, like John Calipari,
shut the hell up, just stop talking. Okay, you've been
to a bunch of Final four's, you want a national championship.

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You turned around a Kentucky team that at one point
the season it lost four games a row and was nosediving.
He did a great job with the team that no
one knows how good you actually are. Just beat Tennessee
for the first time. Lef, you're gett beata. But why
are we Why is he spending the time complaining about
his seed and his draw, as if some atrocity was
committed to Kentucky basketball. And again, it doesn't necessarily reflect

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poorly upon cow. It reflects poorly upon the sport, to
which inside the sport people, Oh, they got to play
Arizona the second game. That's kind of interesting. I think
Arizona is underseated. I can make the case Kentucky is rightfully, maybely, maybely,
maybe underseated, maybe overseas, I don't know. But playing them
in the second that's interesting. But you can't lose most

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of your quality nonconference games, lose a bunch of games
in conference, then complain about a pretty good seed and
five because you won some games late after getting pumbled
by Florida in your last regular season game, Like that
did happen? I watched it, but when if I'm a
mainstream sports fan, I can mark it down. John Calipari

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is going to be complaining before it ever happened. Right,
Seeds come out. Team that doesn't get in everybody, bitches,
Seeds come out everybody. Like all we do is complain
instead of take interesting side notes. Hey, Marcus Foster used
to play Kansas State, was the Stars freshman year, struggled
his sophomore year, transferred to Craton, and guess who Creton

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plays their first game? Like that's interesting, that's interesting. That's
a game I'm sure Kansas State wants to play. That's
the game I'm sure crate that Marcus Foster wants to play.
He said to John cal Perry, going like, hey man,
here's what we fixed with our team. I think we're
really good. Oh we got Arizona. Maybe in the second game,
if we win our first game, if we can beat

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Bob McKillop and Davidson. But the constant complaining every year,
Like I feel bad even complaining Syracuse thing, like why
are you on Syracuse because you didn't beat anybody, not
my fault. Syracus is on the bubble. It does feel
like groundhog Day. It almost makes you of like, you
know what, at some point I care a little bit

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less what was and and look, the committee is just
as guilty of this. You have to know, you gotta
feel what the core of who you are and what
the tournament is. Right, they always say whatever your idea is,
Like I saw, did you guys see the thirty for
thirty on the XFL? Do you guys see that? It's

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really really well done? And Vince McMahon is in fact
a marketing genius. But one of the things that kept
going back to was Vincent man didn't know what he had.
He didn't have that one sentence of what was it?
And I think I can describe what the n c
A Tournament is, and maybe you guys can tell me
if I'm wrong. But the n c A Tournament is

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supposedly like the most democratic of ways in which we
decide a champion in all of sports. And by democratic,
I mean anybody has a chance. That's why we have
the conference tournaments, which aren't really equitable, aren't really fair.
Vermont wins their league by a couple of games, beats

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UNBC twice lose on the last second shot, so they
don't get in. It's not really fair, but the idea is, hey,
if you keep winning games, we can't push you off
the court. It's like it's like pick up basketball, which
by the way, has been ruined by idiots at twenty
four Hour Fitness who put a rule out there you
can only win three games and then you gotta switch
it up. Why I'm running the court here. If you

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want to beat me, beat me, then I'll get off
the court, which is the same thing we've done to
the n c A tournament. The great thing about the
first weekend is a team, a school you've never heard of,
players who you would never pick out of a lineup,
somehow takedown or almost takedown the biggest of teams. And
yet the committee didn't let St. Mary's in. The committee

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didn't have Middle Tennessee stayed in. They could have put Vermonton.
And what this does is it pushes the Wichita States
of the world to lead the Missouri Valley and Crating
to lead the Missouri Valley, which they've done. And Gonzaga
is probably gonna leave the WCC because they look at
Gonzaga and they're like they look at St. Mary's like, look,
we don't win this thing every year. At some point

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we're gonna be the team who gets snubbed. Forget that
we're out. It does the same thing to coaches. Coaches
careers are based upon whether or not they get in
the n c A tournament, and we always we criticize
these coaches for leaving happy. Kermit Davis has built a
uh perennial winner at Middle Tennessee State. Why will he

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leave if offered an SEC job, even at like Ole Miss.
Because all you gotta do is Alabama wasn't even five
in the SEC and they got in the tournament. Middle
Tennessee was twelve and one in real true road games,
didn't get in. It's like the committee is like, what
what is the tournament about? It's about finding as many

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big name teams that we can to get in and
then deciding a championship. I gotta know who you are.
I'm not saying cut Duke out or Carolina out, Kentucky
or Cancers. They're in. They have all the things going
their way to give them an opportunity to get in.

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But if you think back to your favorite memories of
the first weekend of the tournament. It's Vermont, it's Weber
State beaten North Carolina, It's uh it's East Tennessee State
getting to win. It's Mercer over Duke. The Mercer over
Duke dance is more memorable than the Icky Shuffle or

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the Super Bowl Shuffle. Florida Gulf Coast they win two games.
You're like, man, Florida Gulf Coast sounds like an awesome
place to go to school, right, it's the beauty of
this thing. So what do we do? We make it
harder and harder for those little guys to get that opportunity. Why? Why?

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Instead we take Syracuse in Alabama and Oklahoma. Oklahoma has
won like three games since January. You lose eight out
of ten Arizona State, and I like Bobby, I like
his team, but it lost five out of six games. Like,
I don't what have they done to tell us that
they're really good or that they want to play in

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the n c A Tournament. But instead we look at
and we we make the arguments that help us, as
we do in politics. I mean, hell O J admitted
to double murder last night on Fox, and that's like
the sixth biggest story because we've got Tiger Lebron in

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l A, Richard Sherman signs, and Dominkan sue cut n
C A tournament. Calipari bitchen, Well, I don't I still
understand why Calipari is complaining. I don't. I don't that one.
Here's John Calipari. By the way, Well, I was in
a car with my wife and my phone blew up
and it was like one after the other, and I

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didn't know there were so many ways to say you
got screwed again my phone and I had to ask
my guys, how many of you know what state Boise
is in. By the way, the last time I heard
somebody make fun of where they're playing a game was
U C l A. They played Tulsa in Oklahoma City

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and Ed O'Bannon said he didn't know where Tulsa was.
Actually admitted to that didn't know where Tulsa was. Tulsa
ran them out of the gym, random out, Go back
and look it up. Random out of the gym. You
don't know where boys is, which, again, it's a funny line,
and I'm not picking apart to fact, I actually think
cow has done a really good job with this team.

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I just don't really. I guess my problem is I've
actually paid attention. I Kentucky is twenty four and ten.
Kentucky is twenty four and ten out of conference. They
lost to Kansas and U C. L A. And their
big win was over Louisville, who didn't make the tournament,

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and Virginia Tech by seven, who did. They lost twice
to Tennessee, They lost twice to Florida. They lost to
South Carolina, who stinks this year. They lost the Texas
and m They lost to Auburn. They beat Georgia, Alabama
and Tennessee and won three in a row. Heck, they've
won seven of the last eight games. They played very well.

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But they got a seven seed because they got a
five seed because they earned a five seed, and they
just so happened to be playing Arizona, likely in the
second game if they survived their first game. It's a
big ift though, you know, I because they take on Davidson,
and that Davidson's head coach Bob McKillop will join us
upcoming next I'm guessing that Bob McKillop knows where boys.

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Yesterday Davidson was taken on Rhode Island and the in
which it worked if any of us paid attention was
I look, there's a number of bubble spots. Davidson won
the game. They were guaranteed a spot in the n
c A tournamt by automatic bid and because Rhode Island
won the Atlantic Ten Conference in the regular season, people
felt like they had done enough. They were getting in
as an at large. So if Davidson One, which they did,

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win the Atlantic ten tournament, that would take away a
bubble spot. Additionally, Rhode Island's coach by Danny Hurley, Danny's
her Danny Hurley's brother Bobby Hurley, head coach of Arizona State.
So the thought was if Rhode Island loses, it could
not only hurt Rhode Island and their seating, but also
could knock Bobby Hurley off the bubble. I don't know

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if any of that goes into the mind of Bob McKillop,
the head coach of Davidson, who did not knock Bobby
Hurley out the bubble, but did help lead his team
to another n c A Tournament appearance, and he joins
us on the Doug Oatlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Coach McKillop, Congratulations, what what was preparing for yesterday? Like
for you? You know, we took it one game at
a time because that's the kind of team we we are,

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and that's the kind of team we have to be.
And it was kind of a gauntlet, having to go
through St. Bonaventure and then Rhode Island, two teams we
had played, ironically in the past week of the season.
So we had played a triple overtime against St. Bonaventure
Okanolan and lost that, and then we played Rhode Island
here at our place last game is season and won
that by score five points in the last five seconds

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and kind of a dramatic victory. So, uh, we knew
what we were up against, and I'm just thrilled that
our guys handled that kind of challenge as well as
we did the other thing that you guys have been
able to handle. And I think this kind of cements
it is moving up in conference. You and I have
spoken about this when I called the Atlantic ten Tournament championship,
which is, hey, look, this is harder than the SOCN,

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more competitive teams, and this is kind of the first
group of players that was recruited to play maybe at
this Peyton Aldrich, your senior star, was recruited to play
in the Atlantic ten, and this kind cements you as
legitimate at that level in the regular season college basketball.
Fair well, absolutely correct. You know, when we went to
the Atlantic ten, there were questions why would we do it?

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And Uh, I think in that first year when we
won the regular season, I think we uh eliminated some
of those questions. But then, of course one year doesn't
mean anything. And now after the fourth year in the
conference and we win the conference tournament, I think there's
some validation as to why we did it. Kellen Grady
is your freshman star. And you know what happens when

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you have a star player, a young one, a guard
one that you let go. He's averaging eighteen a game.
Obviously not the passer of Steph, but everybody wants to
put him up neck. Put the graphic of Steph Curry
and Kellen Grady next to each other and go, oh,
man could be the next Steph Curry. Uh. For people
who haven't seen him, give us a sense of what
type of player person you're able to bring down to Charlotte. Well,

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let's be clear, there's only one Steph Curry and we
were very, very fortunate to have him here for three years.
Us Kellen Grady, Uh maybe uh it instigates those uh
comparisons because he has somewhat of a look like step
and a light skinned kid who shoots the ball so
very well, but there's only one steph Curry. H. Kellen

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is uh far better than we anticipated. We thought he
was going to be very good for us. We knew
he was going to star force. But what he's done
better than I thought imaginable. Was one, he's shot the
ball incredibly well. Number two, he's a sponge for information
for getting better. And number three he's tenacious. Uh, there's

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no soft side to Kellen Grady. He's got a competitive
fire that really burns. And you look at him and
he's such a uh quiet speaking young man, but he's
got a fire that just rages. Okay, So, uh, when
you saw Kentucky as your first round opponent, it's a
twelve five. You know everybody likes that that the twelve

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five matchups. What was your initial reaction when you saw
the bracket? Well, I thought, first of all, Boise Idaho,
and I just hope we don't have the same kind
of complication with travel logistics like we had in our
last appear. Instantly played Iowa in Seattle. Uh, we charted
to Seattle, but we had to wait for San Diego

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State to fly across across the country. Disembarked from the
plane and then we were able to take their plane
back and then we had to I think stop in
Kansas City to refuel. So we got the Seattle at
five am in the morning Seattle time, which was eight
am in the morning East Coast time. So, uh, that's
my first concern. How was our travel plans going to

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be given to us this year? And I think the
n C double A became well aware of our problem
last time, so I hope that's not a problem at all.
What about what about Kentucky? I mean, like, look, you're
gonna make it They're gonna make it out to David
versus Goliath instead of Davidson versus Goliath. You okay with
that underdog role? Absolutely? You know. We we've played Virginia,

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We've played North Carolina, We've traveled across the country to
play Nevada. We traveled across the country and flew to
Hawaii to play in Hawaii. So we we've had experiences
against historic, traditionally powerful programs like Kentucky is. We've traveled
across the country like Boise Idaho is. Um. Of course,
having those experiences and being able to perform against those

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situations are two different things. And we're going to see
a team that's very talented, long, athletic, young. But as
you watch them go through this season, I think everyone
will give high marks to John and when he brought
them along and the way they molded themselves into a
team and learned a system and incorporated that in the

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way they performed in the last two three weeks of
the season. I agree. I actually think he's done a
really good job. I don't really understand the complaining about seed.
Uh just you know, like and you know, but uh,
you guys, you do know where Idaho is and all
your players he said, his guys don't even know where
Boyse is. Your guys are awaring geography a little bit
sharper with the Davidson guys. I think they have an

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understanding of the map at the United States. I wonder
I wonder if John Axel knows John Axel Gutmansson, who's
from Iceland. I wonder if he knows where Boyse is
might might feel more a pretty smart guy. John is
a pretty smart guy. And the Bloom mc garity, the Swede,
and Oscar Nicholson the fan, they're they're pretty smart guys.
And even on Serbian guys, Douschan Kovosovitch knows where is Listen.

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I know your United Nations of team going on to
take on some of America's best and UH and UH
and Canada's best when you take on the Kentucky Wildcats. Uh,
take me back to the year you went to the
lead eight when Steph was just I know and like, look,
you've been doing a great job at Davidson for the
decade before that, but that obviously made you a part

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of college basketball lore. Was there moment to which you
knew that was going to be something special? Every time
Stephan Curry stepped on the court for US after his
freshman year, we knew something special could happen. We had
actually a couple of games that year. We played Duke
in North Carolina here in Charlotte the time Warner Arena,
and UH played them close games. And then we went

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out to u c l A and we played U
c l A toe to toe. We're up by eighteen
in the first half, and that U c l A team, Uh,
Westbrook came off the bench. That's how good they were.
Not nine minutes of game that year he played nine minutes,
but Russell was sensational. I thought he played the best
defense on step in that entire year coming off the bench.

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Of course, Kevin Love was on a team. Darren Collinson
was on that team. They were start piled and they
went to the final four. So we had those experiences
in those three games. Duke Carolina and U. C. L
A taught our guys that we could compete at the
highest level. And in the stroke of luck, you know,
we played Gonzaga in the first round and Gonzaga has
to come across the country number one, number two. We

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played him in Raleigh where we had played NC State
and lost on a buzzer beater. So we had been
in that arena. We had smelled it, we had felt it,
we had touched it. Uh. We we had a team
that was coming across the country, and magic happened at
the end of that game in the last minute, Step
Berries at three and uh boom. We moved on to
Georgetown and uh again a stroke of irony. George kind

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of knocked out Carolina the year before in Greensboro. So
the Carolina fans when they came in for the second game,
which is Arkansa Carolina, all the Caraliblina fans were rooting
for us, and at last ten fifteen minutes of the
the Georgetown game. So it was like the arena was
packed for Davidson. So it was a stroke of a
lot of things happening, but the biggest stroke with Stephen Curry. Yeah,

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and of course you had that you had one one
last shot against Kansas in the late it was Richards.
Jason Richards had a shot, wasn't in. Yeah, you know,
we got it. We had Steph bringing up the court.
They double teamed him, then they triple team and then
a guy fell down and Jason rich got a clean
hit on look and it just floated to the left
of the basket. I could still see it going up

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there right now. Yeah, it's amazing. You remember the losses
just as vividly or more vividly than the winds. Well,
this will be one that I everybody will be paying
attention to. It's Davidson versus the versus Goliath. Can't can't
tell you how excited I am for you, your family
and your program to see you back in the n
c A tourmament. Look forward to seeing you on the
court and Boyce and we appreciate you join us. Okay,
thank you so much. Doug All right, it's Bob mckilly,

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head coach of the Davidson Wildcats. Remember same guy, same white,
silver hair, saying perfectly knotted tie as when Steph Curry
was his point guard. And he has a couple of
fantastic players. Payton Aldrich the senior six eight to fifteen
to twenty kind of stretch four five and really shoot
the basketball. It's a Kentucky team. That they're shooting has
been erratic, as most young teams are all year. You

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gotta get Hooters trying to do spoke wings. It's a
whole new way to crave wings. And with all the
taste and half the calories, you can eat twice as
many Hooters. Let's bring in Dan Buyer, who, um, i'd
didn't bag you on your on I'll have my I'll
give you my my travel story, which is a good
one in a second. I apologize though, for being in
the air, literally in the air when you were on

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the air yesterday. Purchased WiFi or did it come free
with the flight? I have one of those monthly deals.
Oh okay, there you go. Well I'll get so we'll
get to that in a second. There is some developing
news in the NBA. The Vertical is reporting that Celtics
guard Marcus Smart is out indefinitely with a torn tendon
in his thumb. There's also more news out of Boston
that the Celtics could be without Kyrie Irving for the

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next week or so. USA Today, he says he is
likely to sit out to rest his sword knee. No
mono Genoble or LaMarcus Aldridge for the Spurs tonight as
they faced the Rockets. Aldred Jay's his own sword need
to deal with. While Genobley will rest, the Miami Dolphins
will reportedly release defensive tackle and Dominican sue. NFL Network
says it's expected soon, as the Dolphins are also expecting

(26:53):
to let go of linebacker Lawrence Timmins. Chief said about
a defensive end Tomba ali Or. The NFL Network says
Cowboys corner Orlando Scandrick wants his release from the team.
Buccaneer Sip signed and camera Break to a six year,
forty one million dollar contract, and Doug The Associated Press
reports that Tiger Woods is expected to be named the
captain of the twenty nineteen President's Cup team, where he

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could serve as a player captain if he qualifies for
that team coming up, not this year but next year
for the President's You love golf, you do a great
job of covering golf. Went down. Uh we we both
went down to the Tory Tory Pines. How exciting was yesterday?
Oh it was great. It was magnificent when Tiger made
the forty foter on seventeen. It was because now you're like, wow,

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this could actually happen. It was a great afternoon. I
felt a little short, but yeah, I was magnificent. Who
was it was? I love all these golfers that spit
up all over themselves and Tigers in the hunt on
Sunday this like you know, two years after Tigers all
banged up and injured, and like you know, there's no
fear factor with Tagger anymore. Like okay, okay, I liked
augusta Sunday, Tiger in the lead. Let's see how many,

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I say, how many guys not up and how many
guys fade? You know, yep, yep. And Corey Connors, who
was the Canadian, the young Canadian who got in as
an alternate, had had a rough go of it. Yesterday.
Brent Snedecker played with Tiger. He was awful. That never
helps you. Would you would actually like your your playing
partner to be playing well so you don't get to
see as bad shots and put that in your mind.

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But yeah, maybe there was a bit of a Tiger
effect for some of the guys. I think there there
absolutely was a Tiger effect. Did you guys like the
Selection show? Obviously? I know you're all fans and I
appreciate it. It'd be a better of viewer on it.
But other than that, hated it? You hated it? Which
part about it? I didn't like the studio audience. I
didn't like the alphabetical release of the teams that are

(28:47):
in which we knew about. I also, kind of be honest,
I don't like the back and forth with I love
Ernie Johnson. I think Greg Gumbel does a great job.
I don't like this trading off of equal time of
you do these eight teams and then I'll do these
eight teams. It's just, man, it's a simple process. I
agree with you. I've never understood that. I can I mean,

(29:09):
I can tell you what goes into it and why
it is that way. Well, I mean, Turner paid of
the rights. Turner always and David Levy, who's the head
of Turner, always pushes for his guys. CBS has kind
of always done it, so it's kind of always their thing.
So they like trying to be everybody's trying to be
good partners to each other, like, well, you get we'll
both do it together, right, And like it was CBS,

(29:32):
they would do it in their studio their way and
have coaches on and have the bracket out and everything
be nice and tidy in an hour, whereas it was
it was Turner's way, I would believe they would do
it in the middle of Times Square with all of
Turner's people and just have a complete free for all.
And so when you have two completely different companies, completely

(29:54):
different ways of doing things, and they're actually trying to
get along, this is what happens, which, by the way,
is one of the big reasons that the Seeds are
so screwed up because they have all these different rules
where you can't have a rematch and we keep you
away from teams in your conference and we do this,
and with that which they all have, it's just like
NCA rules. They all have really logical reasons behind them.

(30:18):
What are we doing? Just find the right teams get
the right matchups. Even in about trying to even out
the brackets, but I honestly believe it's because just the
Turner and CBS folks are trying to get along and
they have two such different views on how you do
television that that's what ends up looking like Wow, even

(30:38):
even the pizza hut bit stunk, you know, like like
Erdie was eating a piece of pizza in the in
the crowd and then nobody was cheering, and then Kenny's like, yeah,
pizza is good everywhere, and they're like, oh yeah, but pizza.
I mean it was. It was bad. Doug, I didn't
like it. It was it was Jesus was trying trying
too hard. Yes, music, Well, isn't this one of those

(30:59):
things where you you have to let the bracket, which
is what everyone cares about, really be the focus of
it and everything with that show, there were so many
moving parts around it. That's what was distracting, Whereas everyone
in the audience is going, I just want to see
the bracket and who my team's gonna play. Yeah, the

(31:21):
problem with revealing the bracket early is that and and look,
there are some people that are on that show that
have covered college basketball year, but they're not synonymous with
college basketball. The problem has always been or or is
since Turner got involved, and even with CBS, and that
is that the sport is really more synonymous with the

(31:41):
espn UM and to a lesser extent with Fox Sports
one in terms of volume of games and names, personalities
that you know and can touch up. And so the
second the brackets out, you click over to hear what
billis or Dockage or you know, in in our case,
you know what what Alaven would have to say, what

(32:02):
a Bardo would have to say with Casey Jacobs. And
the point is the guys that you've trust you can't have.
You can't have the bracket and then go like, let's
hear what Charles and Kenny have to say. And I'm
not saying that Charles and Kenny don't know basketball, but
they're just not synonymous with the sport. And so that's
why you don't do the bracket reveal right away. Even
the thing that CBS and Turner has in this case,

(32:23):
TBS has that no one else has is the bracket.
They have it, no one else can have it until
they release it. Once they release it, you're releasing the
audience to do whatever they're trained to do. And most
people sports fans are still trained to go to ESPN.
I think we all know that, we all grew up
as sports fans like that. Even if you don't like
ESPN's coverage like you used to, there's still synonymous. Especially

(32:46):
have the by far and away the greatest volume of
sports and personalities in college basketball, and so, like I,
I've always thought they've overthought this thing. First couple of
years I did it. It was you have released the
one part of the bracket. You discuss each game as
you go down, and when they increase the amount of time,

(33:07):
all they had to do was space it out more.
Now I have more time to talk about each game,
more time talk about each bracket, and then save the
last couple of teams in the field for the last segment,
because that's the part that's most exciting. And then you
can keep going to a wall and have all the
teams that are out there on the bubble and haven't
been discussed yet, and and then you can even even

(33:27):
want to have a debate segment, have a debate segment
of those teams and the validity of those teams and
should they be in I've never understood what I really
feel like. The answers are very simple, and I think
eventually they'll get around to it because you have a
lot of smart TV people. But I think, um, they
tried to please every They tried to please like Twitter,
who wants the bracket now now, now, now now, and

(33:49):
TV critics want now. They tried to kind of meld
two different, completely different styles of people, and you have
too many people. You get two is two and a
half three sets where the people too many. But that's
what happens when people are actually trying to do the
right thing. This is so different than why there's too
many laws in America, too many different little like we

(34:11):
can fix this. When you try and perfect things, you
end up making them more imperfect. Doug, they could have
unveiled the bracket in French and as long as I
saw it on the screen, I would be happy, Like
like that, you're you're to reveal the bracket right away again, Look,
you could wait ten minutes, you know, do your lead
in if you wanted to keep ESPN away from it,

(34:32):
and if that way. But to Ryan's point of the
bracket is the star that's all I care about. That's
all I care about seeing is that, hey, guess what
this is gonna be the one sixteen, who's gonna be
the eight nine in that you know region, who's gonna
be the second round matchup? That's all that I care about.
M hm hm ramos By, You buddy, you watch a

(34:58):
lot of famili stuff going on, y straight, Doug, that's
that's an It's okay, it's a no it. Actually, what'll
end up happening is you get to the point where're like,
just let me know when the brackets out, I'll print
it out right. That's what happens. You do too much
people like it's a lot like the complaining. They're complaining
over the seeds, and like, listen, there are legitimate complaints

(35:21):
for teams that should have gone in. But when it's
all like when you have teams that should be happy
that they're in the tournament, they got a pretty good seed,
just go like, hey, we're happy. I can't believe playing Davidson.
That's a good program. They have this guy, they have
that guy, the other guy. Our players are playing well,
fired up for the tournament. Reminds me of this year

(35:42):
YadA Yadia. But when everybody complains, you end up going like,
just tell me when I can pronout the bracket and
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(36:36):
O J. Simpson confessed to dell a murder and we're
arguing about Kentucky getting a five seed America and people
are like, do we really need to hear a confession, Like, yeah,
we all thought he did it, we all assumed he
did it. But to hear him essentially admit to doing
it and then going into I don't know what happened.

(36:56):
There was blood everywhere. I actually, yeah, it actually changes
things a little bit. I mean I'm I when I
say I knew it, I knew it all along, Like yeah,
it's like Scooby Doo, like I knew it all long.
And it would have got away with the net rodues
medditing kids. You didn't know it all long, Otherwise he

(37:18):
wouldn't have been out in the straight. This is game
time side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Damn by what
today's game, Doug is? Big deal? Little deal? No deal? Okay,
a little n C double A tournament, a little n
B A and Samana fell. Let's start off here. You

(37:41):
were talking tournament, big deal, little deal or no deal.
This is something I noticed yesterday Doug, that there are
zero schools for the Pacific time Zone playing in San
Diego Frauday on Sunday. There's just one from the Mountain
time zone being in New Mexico. Uh, the New Mexico
State squad there from the Mountain time zone. Is that
a big deal, little deal or no deal? I think

(38:03):
it's a big deal. Look, it's really it's always been
hard for them to find West Coast cities to have
the games, and like the regionals are in l A, Uh,
those should be pretty well attended but they have have
struggled to find locations, you know, like Boise's barely what
it's not really West Coast and San Diego obviously is,
but it's a little harder to get to. The people

(38:24):
will ever readily admit um and yeah, shipping all your
teams away lessons the likelihood of success. So I think
it's a big deal. I also think that as they
make it used to be you'd have to sites in
the western part of the US, maybe two in the
South when they used to do it. Truly by the
region's Doug, you don't need to West sites anymore. Maybe

(38:45):
maybe it's a TV thing, But to think that you're
hoping anything y U c l A, you know, like
Gonzaga can do it, but heck, they're playing late games
in Chicago's on Sunday nights and I don't know, just
stood out to me, all right, big deal, a little
deal or no deal, Doug, that the Celtics backcourt could
be without Marcus Smart and Kyrie Irving in the final

(39:05):
month of the regular season. Irving's got a sore knee
had to leave yesterday's game against the Pacers, which was
a loss, and now smartest out indefinitely with a torn
tended in that thumb. I think that's a super big deal.
I think it's a huge deal. Remember May like look
the Celtics, they had injuries last year that they withstood
and still were able to get the number one seed.

(39:26):
These injuries feel more problematic and for a team now
that uh there're three and a half games back behind Toronto,
Toronto may runaway and hide with the number one overall
seed in the East. These are and and also Daniel
these Is out for the season two. Not just their backcourt,
that's one of their good bench players. Uh, I think
the Celtics kind of falling apart here. Big deal, little

(39:48):
deal or no deal that the Arizona Cardinals are prepared
to offer Kirk Cousins a five year contract which would
pay him twenty nine million dollars annually and include ninety
million dollars in guarantees. According to Point seven FM and Phoenix,
who is that Kirk Cousins getting a deal from the
Cardinals ninety million and guarantees? Yes, there was talk that

(40:09):
you could just get a fully guaranteed three year deal
from a team this one saying you'd get his ninety
million guaranteed plus get twenty nine billion dollars annually over
a five year deal. It's good to be Kirk Cousins.
They're like fighting over his like fighting over a five
at a bar. Literally a super duper big deal. That
would be big. This is game time on the Duck

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I admit I'm not a child anymore. I'm not a kid.
So I've been told that kids post things on social

(40:52):
media they should. I was told everybody's got a sex tape.
I don't, okay, um. Odell Beckham Junior had something posted
that maybe he wasn't aware of, but it sure is damaging.
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(41:13):
a big title. We want a big title. Um. I've
wanted to go back and get my masters in business
for years, for years, and there are there are scholarships
that I could I could get in order to go

(41:34):
and get my masters, my MBA from the Spears School
of Business, and I might well do it, do it
just to say I did it right. But in speaking
with the powers that be, there's just one little kind
of twist to it. You actually got to do a
lot of work. Well, we have these classes, like, oh
I do I have to do the class of class

(41:55):
I can do online? W Well, what you do is
you come in once a month for a class and
the rest you kind of do as you go and
you turn to work in I gotta I gotta show up,
and then you gotta do a bunch of work because
in order to get that master's shocker, Now you actually
gotta do some work. Yeah. I didn't sound like that
much fun, But you do want to tell your kids, Hey,

(42:19):
don't just get I have an A, the associate's degree.
I have a U b A. Or I think, yeah,
be a in marketing. Um, so you know, I I
look at it and I'm like, it's it's not worth
it to me at this point in my life, although

(42:40):
it might be later on. I don't know. Maybe at
some point I want to teach you to college. I
want to have a doctorate or something like that. I
don't know, but it's not worth it to me, So
I don't want to do the work with those titles.
Come a little bit of work, all right. People know
this who have been moved up to being a sales
manager from a salesman, you don't necessarily have the energy

(43:03):
of I got a buddy who he's he was in sales.
He's essentially a sales manager. Technically it's for money management.
Technically for money management. But um, he's like, look, the
good news is that I'm not working on commission anymore.

(43:23):
I essentially get a piece of everybody else's commission. I'm not,
you know, out there every day grinding trying to find
new clients anymore. On the other hand, I'm still now
having to relay messages to my sales staff where they're
having to do the grinding, and so my grinding is

(43:44):
a little bit different. Plus I have to manage my
time and manage their time. I have meetings with even
my bosses like their stability and being a sales manager,
if something goes wrong, you can fire somebody below you,
as opposed to when your sales men, you're the one
that hits the bricks. It does sometimes lack a little
bit of energy. Some things that go into it. Odell

(44:11):
Beckham Jr. Wants to be a franchise caliber play. He
wants to be a game changer. Right, He essentially wants
the title of signature franchise player. But there's some stuff
that goes with it. I want to be paid like
a quarterback. Remember that wants to be paid like a quarterback.

(44:34):
There's a problem with that because to who much has given,
more is expected, and so we can excuse it as
hey man, he's twenty five years old. Hey that white
powdery substance. Let's let's just all let's act like adults here.

(44:57):
That feels like it's cocaine. Right, I've never seen cocaine
in person. That's a true ron most you ever seen
cocaine in person? That would be a negative. Doug Music,
you ever seen cocaine in person? We had this discussion,
don't we. Yeah, that'd be a no. Okay, So I
but I have a I want to venture a guess
of what it looks like, and that's what it looks like.

(45:21):
So I'm willing to even concede it's probably not hopefully
maybe not probably that hopefully not his am I cocaine Okay,
there wasn't weed in that cigar. Okay, look, dude, have
you have you as this ever happened to a quarterback?

(45:44):
Has this? Has this ever happened to a franchise quarterback?
Right the The only guy I can think of that
this has happened to is Johnny Manziel, who, by the way,
boys with Will Beckham Jr. Who, by the way, end
up checking in the rehab twice. And remember Manzelle, unlike Beckham,
didn't just have the credit card with the white powdery substance.

(46:07):
He had the rolled up dollar bill in the bathroom.
What do you think that was for? But if you
want to be paid like those guys, you have to
behave like those guys. It's doubly disappointing because Odell Beckham Jr.
Is as popular or maybe even more popular, than he

(46:27):
is good, and that popularity comes at the price. My
son loves Odell Beckham Jr. My dog is named Obendell
Beckham Jr. Junior. True story. And I'm embarrassed not because

(46:48):
of a picture that a woman takes in a room
which appears to be kind of shady, but just the
idea that that would even be, Like you would even
be with somebody who would think that posting would be
okay at any on any level. And it's one of
those deals to where like, we know the story, we've

(47:09):
seen the story, we think we know how the story is,
and I well, it's only a little Snapchat, it's only
a little Instagram, it's only a minute, five seconds. He
doesn't have the coke in his hands. He might not know.
He's like, whatever, dude, these are all just excuses. If
this was the only thing. Fine, it's not the only thing.

(47:33):
You have the tantrum with Josh Norman. You have the
tantrum tantrums this year. You have the kicking net fiasco.
It's not his fault he got hurt, but he just
happened to get hurt. You have the ridiculous ass contract Wise,
Odell Beckham Jr. Is a superstar wide receiver talent and

(47:54):
this lives up to or down to any anyone's uh
perception on what superstar wide receivers live like off the
football field. But hey, if you're not getting the message
because the Giants haven't redone your deal, you're not getting
the message When Jarvis Landry, who's your boy, who's been
as productive he's not as good, but it's been as

(48:16):
productive as you have. Just got sent away from the
Miami Dolphins. I guess a bad look. And yeah, when
you're gonna become a manager, you're gonna become an executive.
You're gonna have more meetings. It's not going to be
as fun to be you. You can't be the When

(48:36):
you're the salesman and you take a client out, you
can get loaded, right. You have some drinks. Clients have drinks.
Everybody has drinks. Ever noticed when the boss comes to
those parties, You know the boss doesn't do Hey man,
I can't be drinking, not on the clients. I can't
be getting drunk. It doesn't mean you can't go out

(48:57):
with those people. But later on the night you sit
there and go like, I'm an uber home. That's what
every boss I've ever been with does. Heck, I did
this when we were in at the Super Bowl. I
know people are out there watching. Everybody wants to have
a good time. That's cool. I don't stay out late.
I thought, I don't want to. It's not that there's

(49:18):
not fun. We'll go to the the final four here coming up,
same deal, of course, I know, I know I have
lots of friends will be in the final four. But
I have a really cool job to which all it
takes is somebody sending out a picture. I mean, you're
not gonna see me a picture with cocaine or a blunt.
My mouth. We converiscate everybody's cell phones. I'm kidding, jokes,

(49:42):
These are jokes. But to who more has given more
is expected? Man, I don't know my holding them too high,
the standard music, my my freaking out over this and
my old man, get off my lawn on this thing. No,
I don't think so. And to your point where that
you just brought up about for getting the cell phones,
that was actually what I was talking to John about

(50:03):
during the break was that I certainly think that there's
a very real chance that perhaps that's not a blunt
or a joint or whatever it is in his hand,
or perhaps the cocaine or the white powder that's seen
in the video has nothing to do with him. The
issue is that before you have a chance to ever

(50:25):
properly explain what the situation is, the video is already
out there and people have already just made their judgments
on what they think of the situation. And so I
don't understand exactly. And that's why I don't understand how
a person like Odell Beckham Jr. Hasn't gotten to a
point where it's like, look, you know, you want to
bring home a girl. He's single and she has she

(50:47):
wants to do cocaine or whatever. I just don't get
how he goes. Listen, hey, take the phone out, leave
it on top of the table, and just if you
need it, you can go over there and call someone
or check it for text messages. But just if you
want to hang out with me, I can't have you
with the phone in your hand taking videos. That's part
of the rules. I just don't understand how someone of

(51:08):
that level doesn't understand, especially after he already dealt with
the thing on the boat. I don't know, it makes
like no sense. I would guess that he hasn't. He
has enough people around him that tell him the stuff
is cool, don't worry about it. And even his response
to it, which was it was old news, right, this

(51:29):
is old news, Like, no, it's not old news. It
apparently happened last week and we just found out about it,
and you may not be happy about it, but you
can even say, like, hey, I'm not happy about it.
On no way was I involved with any white powdery substance.
I don't know what that was. That was just a
that was a black, and it's a very good chance
it's just a black and mild and his and his fingertips.

(51:51):
There was no weed. I'd be happy to be tested,
but I'm you know, like, I know how it looks.
Sorry for how that looks. We didn't hear that from him.
And when you don't hear any sort of response, that
makes you feel like, yeah, he is um like he's

(52:11):
conceding that it looks bad. You'd assume that he doesn't
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(52:32):
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(52:54):
came out last night. I got my own opinions on him,
but I'm really intrigued to hear how he Schwab's opinions.
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(53:16):
you how the selection committee do? I thought overall they
did pretty well because this was a tough year. You
really had about eight or nine teams that had arguments
to be in the field that didn't make it. So
this was really challenging. And with all the upsets between
Davidson winning the Atlantic Ten, with Nevada falling apart in

(53:38):
San Diego State winning the Mountain West, I mean, it
got a little hectic and a little crazy, and it
end up costing Notre Dame yesterday. Uh. It was interesting.
I mean the committee always will say certain things and
you wonder which criteria they're really looking at. Because Syracuse
being in the field. And I love Jim Beheim, don't

(54:00):
get me wrong, but I'm sorry, I don't think syricus
belongs Arizona State. Uh when you go eight and eleven
year last nineteen one in five year, last six, but
more importantly, you lose it home to Stanford Oregon in Utah,
three teams not in the field, and you lose to
Colorado in the beginning of the Pack twelve tournament. I

(54:21):
thought Arizona State was great to beginning of your rest
of them beat St. John's out here. But now I'm sorry,
it's kind of questionable. And there there were teams Oklahoma State, Uh,
something near and dear to your heart. Uh, when you
beat Kansas twice, you beat Oklahoma twice, was in the field.
If you've winted for West Virginia, you beat Texas Tech

(54:43):
and you beat Florida State, and you come up with
the excuse, well, their strength of schedule is not good enough.
Wait a second, they played Whichita State in Arkansas also,
so I don't buy that. And then you tell me
your r P I is too low? Well, what formula works?
And when you have a resume that has two over
Kansas and on and on and on. I don't know.
I think that's pretty easy. I do too. I look, obviously,

(55:06):
I don't like to get too caught up in the
Oklahoma State thing. I thought it was pretty easy when
you saw meat Oklahoma. Um. But I also think we
we we we get a little away from what the tournament,
at least early on, is about. Is about given a
fair shot to some of these big majors if they've
really tried to earn it. That you can say St.
Mary's didn't play a quality schedule. Part of that was

(55:28):
they lost two games in a in a non conference
tournament who both had disappointing years. But at the time
we're actually playing really well. But okay, um, But Middle
Tennessee went out and played people and then they won
their league and their twelve and one in true road games. Like,
considering how very average Alabama and Arizona State and Oklahoma

(55:53):
and Syracuse are, wasn't this a golden opportunity to slide
a couple of those mid majors in there. First of all,
you were warding mediocrity, and that's sad because a lot
of these teams that you just mentioned have twelve fourteen
regular season losses. So how are you're rewarding mediocrity. I
had Middle Tennessee State in the field until yesterday when

(56:14):
David's knocked and uh knock the Rhode Island out. Otherwise
I would have had Middle Tennessee stayed in. And there's
a very simple reason why. You alluded to the fact
that they scheduled well. They played Auburn, Miami, and USC
and lost to all three of those teams by six points.
I understand us he didn't make the field too, and
I thought that was a little disappointing. This team finished

(56:35):
second in the pack twelve in the regular season. Granted
you break it down by wins and losses, and their
best wins are like the Middle Tennessee states of the world.
Uh fine in New Mexico States team games like that,
But overall disappointing a little bit that us he didn't
get in. But you know what, you can argue about

(56:56):
so many teams this year. Nebraska had a great year,
but realistically their best win is Michigan and that's about it.
So I mean, but you could argue every year we
argue about a few teams. This year, we're just arguing
about a few more. That's the thing. And it just
means the n I T is better this year. You know,
like and and and how he how he has he
But at the first time at how he swabs true story.

(57:17):
I was in Bristol, Connecticut. I just got in the
job in radio, and you rattled off all of my
stats everywhere I played everything. So I asked you that
because you're an incredible vault knowledge how he swab Joining
US bracketologist for Fox Sports, Doug ot what's true of
it does? Well, it's nice and it happens to be nice,
but it also happens to be true. You're in incredibly
valuable asset to us. Um okay so um. One of

(57:41):
the one of the misconceptions I think people have though,
is that hot teams are hot in the n c
A tournament. Is that true or is that a misconception.
I think it is a misconception because you look at
VCU back in two thousand eleven. I mean, it's a
team that I questioned them getting in the tournament and
Shaka Smarts team turned it around and they had to

(58:03):
play the outbracket games still and went on a great
run got to the final four. Uh. I know one
team right now that people are saying, Oh, they're gonna
be great is Michigan, because Michigan in the Big Ten
Tournament was outstanding. You beat Perdue, Michigan State in Nebraska,
it's a great run. The only problem is now they

(58:23):
had a week off. You don't know how they're gonna
just and Montana is not a bad team, so I
think this could be a very competitive game, despite the
fact a lot of people have Michigan making a serious run.
The other problem with Michigan is they're in a bracket
with North Carolina, Gonzagon, Xavier, and that's not easy either.
So we'll see. But no, I think it is a misnomer.

(58:47):
You have to play your best basketball now, but that
doesn't always translate. A lot of teams work hard to
win their conference tournaments and then all of a sudden
have have nothing left. You see teams of one conference
tournament and that effort takes so much out of them
that all of a sudden, and it's such a long season,
the legs go and it's gonna be And this year

(59:09):
is so wide open. I mean, I did a bracket
this morning, and I'm picking a lot of chalk after all,
But would it surprise me if six or seventh seed
suddenly gets the final four. No, it's been that kind
of year. Wafford beat Carolina at Carolina in a guarantee game,
no question, and Carolina, Uh, look, I I wonder about

(59:30):
if there if province can survive the first game, and
the province has had some uneven performances as well. But
you got all those veterans, you got Kiran Cartwright, and like,
this isn't a classic North Carolina team. Like I could
make the case that Bill self and Roy williams um
and some of these Hall of Fame mark few, considering
what they lost and and what they returned, they've done

(59:52):
a better job now than in years in which they
win a national championship or the last year, and Mark,
you nearly won a national championship because they've found a
way to win a bunch of games with very average
or very similar talent to what everybody else has. I
totally agree with that. And Bill sells a perfect example.
Most people thought Kansas wasn't gonna win the Big Twelve
this year for the fourteenth straight year, and then when
you look at Kansas without the bookie being out of

(01:00:14):
the Big Twelfth tournament and they still went because the
silver played great. Uh. Kansas, I I give a lot
of credit to Bill self, but will they be great
in the tournament? I'll tell you what. How about Kansas,
Michigan State, and Duke being in the same region. That's
pretty tough for Kansas as a one seed. Yeah, and
I know that they say we don't put these things
together or whatever, But how about Kentucky and Arizona look

(01:00:37):
like they're gonna match up. I feel like Arizona is
massively underseated. Am I wrong? I think they are underseated.
I had them as the three, and I've already heard
conspiracy theorists in a few places say, well, wait a second, Arizona, Auburn,
they're in the field, but they're seated lower than you've thought. Uh.
Then you have Louisville, Oklahoma State USC uh not in

(01:01:00):
the field. Conspiracy theorists. You know what, people can make
up all these conspiracy theories. I don't buy it. I
don't think the committee said, oh, let's not put this
team in because of of allegations. I don't buy that
at all. I think the committee is looking at a
lot of data and their opinions are generated by what

(01:01:21):
they say, And unfortunately, some people look at different things
strength of schedule, r p I. Some people use common
sense to me, Oklahoma State, the RPI was low, and
actually I pulled them off Saturday night because I saw
just how bad the r p I was. But does
the rp I make any sense when they played which

(01:01:42):
Toast State and they played Arkansas and they want all
those The problem with how he is this, and I've
said this for a long time, is like, look in
college bass, when you construct a schedule, there's like seven
guarantee games, and you're you're gonna win. You're gonna win
those games regardless. Now there's an art to finding a
way to buy the best win. You know, Syracuse gets
in because they had Buffalo and Iona, two teams that

(01:02:04):
made the tournament. But they bought those wins, you know.
I mean when I say bought the wins for people
to understand that you give us check to Buffalo, like
a hundred thousand dollars for Syracuse for seventy grand for
Buffalo to come in. Syracuse picks the reff it's on
Syracuse's home floor. Wherever Syracuse picks the date and in
of the time, the home team wins that game. They're
called guarantee games because you're guaranteed of getting a check

(01:02:26):
and usually a loss in the in the process. I
don't think those are those are the equal of the
The Old State also played Texas A and M. You know, so,
I don't think those are the equal of the other
six games in your nonconference. But the rp I looks
at everything together and also looks at November equal with February,
and that's how they spit out the number, and that's

(01:02:47):
not the reality of the sport. Well, I'll tell you what.
Go look at Virginia Tech non league schedule and tell
me how you can to appreciate that. I had Virginia
Tech as one of the last four in because they
said non league schedule as a factor. We want to
make sure teams schedule. Virginia Tech did play Kentucky in Lexington.

(01:03:08):
They lost, But you know what, go during a break,
go read off with Virginia Tech. And I love buzzwing.
Don't get me wrong. They don't want the hockey fans
to get nuts to me. But you know what, go
look at that non league schedule. It's about two hundred. Well,
what kind of message are you sending with that, look
at Florida States as well. Look at Florida Florid Florida
States is embarrassing, you know how to tell me? I mean,

(01:03:29):
it's um uh, it's really remarkable on how and then
you know, I look at Florid States. Actually was ranklow.
It was like three or fourteen, and no one said
anything about it. And they're nine and nine in conference
play and we got him in as as a nine.
Here's Virginia Tech schedule. Virgin Tech finishes tenanade in conference.
And by the way, your conference schedules they played, Uh,
let's see here. Detroit Citadel they lost to St. Louis

(01:03:51):
was terrible. Beat Washington Houston Baptist fired their coach. Morehead State,
Iowa they beat by twenty four. But I was bad.
This at at Ole miss Okay, so Iowa Addle Missiles
are not bad. Those are major conference teams. They just
had both had down years. Maryland Eastern Shore at Kentucky,
Presbyterian North Carolina and t Did I make my point point?

(01:04:15):
There was a good time. And I love. Don't get
me wrong. I love. It doesn't mean you don't love anybody.
It's just you being honestly doing your joel. Yeah, I'm
being on. That's that's all I am. I'm honest. The
people in the state of Nebraska wanted to crucify me
when I said Nebraska is not making the tournament. I'm sorry.
I see it very simply. Michigan win is great. Yes,
you won a ton of games in the league, but

(01:04:37):
your league was down and if you break it down,
it doesn't work. I'm sorry. Ten Miles is a five
seedney and I t is it turned down, So I
don't feel too badly about that one. Holly, great stuff.
Who are you having your final four? My final four? Villanova, Virginia, Gonzaga,
Michigan State. Right, so you have two ones, and I'm

(01:04:59):
picking picking Michigan State to win the whole thing. I
know it's a little bit of a gamble, but I
think they'll bounce back. Well, all you and all your
farmer of brethren at ESPN pick in Michigan State. I
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(01:05:41):
say about by Uh? Uh, he's a B, B, A D. Yeah, disrespectful?
Was it to leave Oklahoma STATEA? What the trucity? Oh?
It was terrible? Oh, anyway, what you got, I've got this.
Drew Brees has been a pt Pierre for a long time.

(01:06:01):
But Drees, but he Matt Pain is unbelievable. He's super,
he's sensational, he's silting. Uh. Drew Brees is a free agent.
While we expect him to go back to the New
Orleans Saints, it isn't a given and it isn't official.
And Pro Football Talk dot com just posted this up

(01:06:23):
on an NFL Network report that the Vikings have reached
out to Drew Brees agent. I guess Doug to test
the waters on if Drew Brees would be interested in
going to the Minnesota Vikings. Not likely, but it's just
this is what we get this time of year with
free agency. On the horizon. How about some other news
from the NFL. The Miami Dolphins are gonna let go

(01:06:44):
of defensive tackle and Dominicans Sue. Dolphins also expected to
let go of linebacker Lawrence Timmins. According to the NFL Network,
Buccaneers of Santa and Camera Bread to a six year,
forty one million dollar contract. Marcus Smarter of the Boston
Celtics gonna be out a while with a torn tendon
in his thumb. Kyrie Irving could miss the next week,
according to USA Today, as the Celtics card is dealing

(01:07:04):
with a sore knee. Spurs will be shorthanded against the
Rockets tonight. LaMarcus Aldridge out because of a sore knee,
while Monta Jenobi won't play to rest. The Associated Press
says that Tiger Woods is expected to be to be
named captain of the nineteen President's Cup team. Free agent
second basement Neil Walker as sounded deal with the New
York Yankees. Dug back to you do you guys? Uh?
You see Richard Sherman's gonna signed with the San Francisco

(01:07:26):
forty Niners. Yes, well that is quick and um, there's
a reason that you have an agent. Okay, Now, I
understand there's people in my my business it's ten percent
ish on not everybody pays ten percent. I do actually
pay ten percent in my age. And um, there's a

(01:07:48):
bunch of reasons you have it. I actually say the
biggest reason is that there's just some things you shouldn't hear.
You shouldn't you shouldn't be in the room hearing them.
People say, like, kind of paying the ass, it's coming
off an injury. Like you can represent yourself, you can
do it. What's that Chris Chris Rock says you can

(01:08:11):
drive a car with your feet. Doesn't make it a
good idea. So I'd say first thing is, in all honesty,
representing yourself is generally a mistake. And two guys who say,
you know I saved four like un fortunately don't be

(01:08:32):
worth it. And Richard Sherman repped himself. Now, Russell Kong
did it with the l A Chargers and did a
great job for himself, a great job himself representing himself.
Ben Volan from the Boston Globe wrote that five missteps
in Richard Sherman guaranteeing us a negotiating his own contract

(01:08:55):
uh objectively. He writes This contract is seriously tilted in
the forty Niners favor. Sherman is soon to be thirty,
coming off of torn achilles, gets only three million guaranteed,
five million practically guaranteed, and realistically will get one year
and seven million dollars out of his contract. A threshold
of stabs and Pro Bowl and all pro incentives are
quite high for somebody. Sherman's age and coming off of

(01:09:17):
that severe and injury if he has another injury, is
slow to return to form. Mrs An He's sort of
playing time. He's not gonna earn a penny of the
seven million dollars in performance incentives. He's got no guarantees
beyond two th eighteen. His three million signing bonus make
it very easy for the Niners part ways with him.
Just two million cap hit a dead cap hit in
nineteen one million and two thousand twenty. A small signing

(01:09:40):
bonus is always a clear sign the team doesn't trust
the player for the long haul. The piece goes on.
It's quite lengthy. Do you know what he did? Shopped
Hungry talked about this before. Don't shop Hungry, you just
get cut from Seattle. You're bummed it doesn't matter what
you say or how nice it is. You lose a job,

(01:10:04):
your contract is up, or somebody cuts you from that job,
you feel awful. If you're awful, you could have had
a miserable experience. This is no different than what happens
when people go through a divorce. First team you visit,
you signed with, are doing? You don't in in sports,

(01:10:25):
they tell you like, don't sign to the first school
you visit. You don't marry the first girl you date
after you just got divorced. What are you doing signing
with the Niners? The first team you visit are doing?
What are you doing? It's a really good question, is

(01:10:46):
and what you need is an advocate, an agent, but
somebody who you trust. But somebody who also trust also
is willing to stand up to you and say that's
a bad idea, bad idea. He's not even gonna be
ready to practice until August, considering at the earliest, considering

(01:11:06):
the injury and when it was suffered. He I'm gonna
reach any of these bonuses. And he picked the Niners.
I want to go with the winning team. They haven't
won anything yet. I think they're going to be good,
but eventually, But right away picked them because they play
Seattle twice. Right. It's one thing to date a woman

(01:11:29):
that makes your ex not you know, and makes your
X ticked off. All right, I kind of get it.
You know, she doesn't value you, she's you know, she
kicks you out, she says she wants a divorce. You're like,
all right, fine, I'll start dating one of your friends.
It's a whole other thing to marry that friend after

(01:11:50):
the first day. That's Richard Sherman. So I think it's fascinating. Yes, Ryan,
isn't the other thing for an agent? And now we
don't know how much Richard Sherman did his own leg
work on all of this, But isn't part of it himself, No,

(01:12:11):
I know. But behind the scenes preparing for these negotiations.
Part of what an agent in this situation is they're
able to look at other contracts that are out there.
Number one, they tend to have a relationship with these
general managers or whoever they have to do the negotiations with,
so that can help him. And number two, they're able
to say, like, look, so and so gets paid this
amount and this amount, which is why our guy has

(01:12:32):
to be here. You know, here's and they're more familiar
with those type of things. Here's the thing. He knows,
he he thinks he knows, and he probably does know
a bunch. But you have to be smart enough to
know what you don't know. And Richard Sherman is one
of those guys that he's really really smart for a
football player. And somebody might say, well, that you're you're

(01:12:53):
making football players sound like Booker Eaters. Like, No, I'm
not saying he's not smart. I'm not saying it's not
worldly worldly, But the first contract you negotiate should not
be your own contract, especially at one which you're not
coming in healthy, You're not coming in a position to
where you have multiple offers. He wasn't on the market
long enough to have multiple offers, one on the market

(01:13:17):
long enough. So uh yeah, I think it's fascinating. Let's
get to Dann Buyers get some breaking news. Breaking news
from Fox Sports, sug not huge news, but something that

(01:13:37):
we should at least follow. In the NFL, the Cincinnati
Bengals have acquired tackle Cordy Glenn in a deal from
the Buffalo Bills. But what was also included in the deal,
maybe of note Doug of course we know Tyrod Taylor
was dealt to the Cleveland Browns last week. Well, the
Bills and Bengals have swapped first round pick, so now
Buffalo has moved up to number twelve in the first round,
while Cincinnati will drop to the twenty first overall. They're

(01:14:00):
also swapping fifth and sixth rounders. According to Pete Schreeger.
Of course the Fox Sports in the NFL network, but
the Buffalo Bills moving up in the first round with
that trade of Cordy Glenn to the Cincinnati Bengals. How
about this one? Aaron Torres our friend who who feels
who works on Fox Sports trade I used to work
for Fox sports dot com, says Mark Godfried is expected

(01:14:21):
to be the name the next head coach at cow
State Northridge just down the street. There you go, you're
alma mater with the former u C l A assistant
former head coach at Alabama, Murray State, and uh An,
NC State. It's a new day from outador fans. Dog
did he recruit? You do? My sister I used to
babysit his kids. I got can I'll tell you. I'll

(01:14:43):
tell you my Mark god Freed recruiting stories. You well,
you ready. Yeah, so Mark Godfried for Christman u c
l A. For a long time, they did not. We
were really close to the program because my sister was
the cheerleader. My brother went to school there, and they
didn't offer me because they knew, like I didn't want
to go there and not play. And then uh, summer
for my senior year, real they offered me, and I
was kind of bitter about not being offered earlier. Anyway,

(01:15:05):
he said, Douggie, you you're you're not gonna like South
Bend in December. We play you next year in December.
Talk to me then. So of course we played him.
They beat us. I was miserable. So then I was
I left Notre Dame. I was at Golden West College
and I visited Alabama and I visited Alabama and I

(01:15:26):
had a great time, and I got named. Dave Hobbs
was an absolute gentleman, prince of a guy, was the
head coach Alabama at the time. But he was under
he was under some pressure and uh, they had to
move our point guard named Brian Williams over to the two,
and he didn't want to move over to the two,
so I didn't. I went there and it wasn't a
lot of warm and fuzzies with the team because probably

(01:15:46):
the argument their best player wasn't that happy to see
me there, even though he would have had a better
career had I gone there, because I would have dined
him up anyway. I get back and he's like, he
was the head coach at the time at Murray. He's like,
you should go to Alabama. Was like, I don't want
to go to Alabama. Brian Williams was kind of a
jerk to me, only I didn't use the word jerk.
He's like, because I know who the next head coach

(01:16:08):
of Alabama is going to be. I was like who,
He's like, I know who. I was like, oh, I passed,
not because I didn't like God for you, but because
I would have had to go there and sit out
and coaching change would have been made. Too many unknowns.
But I like Mark a lot, fun dude, fun dude,

(01:16:28):
and the perfect read here. Uh, you gotta get the
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Coming up next, Colin Cowherd thinks the Lakers win last
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At this time we like to uh catch you up
on something you might have missed earlier on Fox Sports Radio.
We call it. Colin Coward had this to say about

(01:17:13):
the Lakers winner of the Calves last night. If you're
a Lebron hater and you love you some m J,
I have a problem with it. M Jay's dynamic as
any American athlete I've ever seen. But you want Lebron
to stay in Cleveland. They got no cap space. There's
not much you can do with this roster. It's not
attractive to free agents, and the Sixers are getting better
and the Celtics are getting Gordon Heyward back. If you

(01:17:35):
don't like Lebron, you want him to believe, Hey man,
I'm not gonna go to Houston. I'm not going to Philadelphia.
I'm not going to Los Angeles with new, young, exciting,
dynamic players. I'm watching last night Lakers come out West
went owen to catch the Clippers and the Lakers, and
I'm watching Lebron James and he looks like a guy

(01:17:55):
that could use a fresh start. The Lakers are playing well,
They're seven and two, essentially all Star break in the West.
Lonzo's emerged, brandon Ingram it appears to be a really
good player. Uh, They've got a ton of cap space.
It's a young guys that are fun to play with,
the crowd is energized. He and Paul George. Is it
outrageous to think he was watching that thinking to be

(01:18:17):
kind of fun to be part of I got two
homes here. Yeah. I mean, look, I don't even think
Julius Randal is not even gonna be part of the team.
But the fact that Julius Randall is having a career
year in a contract year. And you hear some of
the stuff the Wired for Sound stuff of how Luke
is coaching Julius, encouraging him to be the best defender

(01:18:39):
in the NBA, Like it's a program you want to
play for team you wanna play for there's any question
about it. So it is trending that way. And the
other trend is Golden State Steph Curry not healthy. Loss
two in a row. It doesn't mean Golden State is
not gonna get there, but I think it's gonna be
a little bit more difficult. The same can be said

(01:19:01):
for Cleveland. How many games does Cleveland have to lose
after the All Star Break before we start to realize
they're not the clear dominant team in the East the
way they were last year. There's going to be some bumps,
There's going to be some losses. There's gonna be more
than the thirteen games it took to get him to
the finals. Oh boy, lot a lot to get to,

(01:19:25):
a lot to get to today. How about Tiger Woods.
I was excited. I was calling a basketball game. It's
over and all. I was riveted to the golf yesterday.
I've said it before, I've said it again, but that
dude is right. If he is healthy, I would be
stunned if he doesn't win them, win the Masters. It
was a hundred of one like a month ago. Now

(01:19:47):
it's like ten to one. He's in. It's just incredible
to watch it's the power of past performances, the power
of brand. I mean, on a Sunday afternoon in which
for the forty years previously I was waiting for selection
Sunday and to fill out my bracket. The only thing

(01:20:09):
I cared about for about fifteen minutes there was hamas
Tiger to win this thing. I mean, I don't even
know what Valve spar is. I don't know where the
Valve spar Open is. But I was in and so
are most of you. Got a five point one, which
will outrage double any college basketball game this entire season

(01:20:30):
and most of the n c A Tournament games until
the final four. Crazy right. Chris Holpman joined us next
again cool, talking about Ohio State and what losing early
in the Big Ten Tournament did to prepare them for
this tournament. The head coach of the Ohio State joins

(01:20:52):
The Duck Gottlieb Show. We'll go through the brackets. If
you're on Serious XM Channel eight three, flip over to
the I Heart Radio app. I know yeah. By the way,
follow us on Twitter, download our podcast. All of these
great interviews, and we'll also have some tournament specific stuff upcoming.
We'll pick your games and win you your pool. All right.
Chris Holtman of Ohio State, will join us. Plus why

(01:21:15):
are the complaining? Next on the Doug Gotlip Show, Fox
Sports Radio. What Up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Brackets are out commenced to complaining. I mean John Calipari's

(01:21:36):
team was a mess, lost four games in a row.
Some people had them possibly falling out of the tournament.
They turn around and when like seven of eight down
the stretch, when the SEC tournament, and even he's complaining.
I think he's complaining more because they possibly play Arizona
in the second round than he is about the the
the actual seed. But fascinating, Look, my assessment is, uh

(01:22:01):
is pretty easy. I think so oftentimes, like the rules
of how they formed the brackets, but you can't have
rematches in the first game, and you gotta split up
the conference foes because of those, so often times the
brackets end up being a little bit uneven. I gotta

(01:22:24):
move a team here and moving team there, and then
you look at me like, wow, that brackets kind of loaded.
It's not intentionally so, but in trying and desperately trying
to make things even, you make them uneven. It's the
same thing with the selection show. That's what happens when
two different TV companies that have two different visions of
how one show should go look jumbled, messy and missing

(01:22:49):
the mark. But you know, here's what I found. I've
been covering this thing for fifteen years, and um, there's
no correlation between hot team and winning in the tournament.
There's no It does not Your conference does not win

(01:23:10):
you a game or conferences. Conferences don't get credit when
teams get credit. You gotta be a little bit lucky.
You gotta really be a little bit healthy. You gotta
get a favorable matchup more so than favorable seed. So
it's really really hard to get in. It's even harder

(01:23:31):
to advance. Let's catch up with a guy whose team
they lost for a third time this year to Penn State,
but outside of that, they were awesome in Big Ten
play and there's the possibility of facing off with Gonzaga team.
We talked to Mark you last week and he's like,
man the job, Chris Holdman, because they Gonzaga beat the
pants off him earlier this year in Portland and that

(01:23:52):
was before kind of the turnaround. Chris Holdman is the
first year head coach at Ohio State. Of course, he
was Butler's head coach last year. Last up of years.
He joins us in the Doug Outleant Show. Coach, how
are you? I'm great, great, great to be with you, man,
I hear you. Okay, so go ahead. John Calipari is
complaining about his five seed? Would you like to complain

(01:24:13):
about your five seeds? No, you know, I I'm not
going to complain about anything. I'm you know, we're in
this thing and no one, no one would have thought
we'd been being in at the beginning of the year.
What you were saying, I completely agree with. I mean
I completely You can tell obviously you've watched and been
a part of the sin for a while. I think, Um,

(01:24:35):
a lot of it is matchups. Uh, it's really hard
to get in. To get into this thing, less than
or just over of teams get in it. There's less
than eleven percent of at large verse of all Division
one teams. So you know, we're glad to be in it.
It's hard, it's hard to advance. Um, we need to
play well on Thursday. Let let me ask you, as

(01:24:56):
a guy who's coaching at a lower level coach at
Guarden Webb. Obviously, Um, I'm torn on this. Right, the tournament,
part of the part of the field, the good feel
good feelings of the tournament is that David taken down
the goliath. Now that actually hasn't gone away as much
as people like me would let you think, because Butler
is no longer in the Horizon. It's still Butler. They're

(01:25:16):
just not in the Horizon League anymore. It's still Wichita State.
They're just no longer in the valley. It's still Crating,
They're just no longer in the valley. Right the the
these these these former Xavier's dot in a ten school,
they're now a Big East champion. So what used to
be the mid major and the team that you didn't
pay attention to much now you know because they're in
the bigger conference. But what's your thoughts on the middle

(01:25:38):
Tennessee's of the world, or even of vermont Um getting
left out as opposed to teams that finished below five
in the major conferences? You know, obviously speaking as a
coach that's in that's in a major conference, you know,
I understand what I think most coaches would say, hey,
is the grind can be different when you're in a

(01:25:58):
power league and you're going against those those teams night
after night after night. Having said that, uh, you know,
I played Middle Tennessee. We played Middle Tennessee last year
in the tournament after they beat Minnesota, and we were
fortunate enough to beat him, uh while I was at
Butler to get to the Sweet six team. But uh,
they were as good as a lot of teams honestly

(01:26:19):
in the Big East. They really were. Now what their
record would have been going through the grind of the
Big East, I don't know, But I just know that
that was a high level team that was as good
as a lot of teams UM in our league and
certainly teams that it that it went to the tournament.
You know, I played Vermont a couple of years earlier. Uh.

(01:26:40):
We scheduled them, which was probably a mistake while I
was at Butler, and I think they, uh are really good,
you know, are really good Middle Tennessee maybe a you know,
maybe a little bit ahead of them, But I thought
Vermont was really good, exceptionally well coached. UM getting ready
for your game last year. I watched that that game

(01:27:00):
and that was kind of one of my takeaways, Like
they're pretty good. Uh the better better than better than
I thought. All right, well, uh, let's talk about your team.
This is a different experience. Obviously, this is your first
year at Ohio State, but not your first n c
A tournament. But you lose early in the Big Ten tournament,
and then, unlike any year at Butler, I don't, I don't. Yeah,
you weren't in the horizon ever at Butler. So you're

(01:27:22):
done for the last week and a half with no games.
How did you approach it? Well, you know, the other
unique thing, Doug was we we played Indiana on a
Friday night before the Big Ten. You know, the Big
Ten still had Saturday and Sunday games, So we finished
the Big Ten regular season a little bit earlier. So

(01:27:42):
you know, we were looking at potentially two games in
twenty it's gonna be two games in twenty days. Basically
what it is, what it's gonna be. And you know,
I think as a coach, you're trying to battle rest
versus rust. I thought we were a little bit tired
at the end of the year. We've you know, we've
ridden a couple of guys, kata H d Up and
Jay Shawn quite a bit and I thought they were
a little fatigued. Um, I think we had a freshman

(01:28:05):
hit the wall a little bit too. So we're trying
to you know, we're trying to figure that out. What
we did last week is, you know, we tried to
get off campus. We went and scrimmaged at a Division
three inter squad scrimmage at a Division three place, just
to kind of get a different scenery. What kind of
caravan there and coaches vehicles and uh forty five minute
drive and then had had dinner afterwards. We changed up

(01:28:29):
our practice times, went in the morning one one day. Um,
so you know, we we did try to mix it
up a little bit. But you're you know that the
main thing is you're trying to battle that whole rest
versus rust and hopefully we've prepared him well for Thursday,
you're gonna take on South Dakota State. The jack Rabbits
are led by a kid named Mike dom the Dominator,

(01:28:49):
who uh is I mean we're watched in the gym.
I mean he looks like a guy who you think
would stand uderneath the basket and just put his hand up.
Problem is he can also shoot it from but he's
a tremendous, tremendous talent. You guys found out just like
everybody else at six o'clock last night. How many South
Dakota State games have you watched? I think I watched

(01:29:10):
four this morning and to last night. Um, he's really good, ug,
I mean, he's you know, I think I had heard
a little bit about them, just because you heard, Hey,
there's an NBA player on their roster, so you watch
them a little bit throughout the year. But then when
you really dig into their team, you realize, like, he's exceptional.
I he's a pro, there's no question about it. But

(01:29:32):
their team is really good. They they have a lot
of weapons, their top fifty in the country and offensive
efficiency the number one in the country, and turnover percentage.
They don't beat themselves. They can shoot it at multiple positions.
Their guards are athletic. You know, they they've beaten Power
Conference teams. I think when you have an eight point
lead at at halftime against which stall state, at which

(01:29:53):
tall state, you're you're pretty talented. And um, I got
a lot of respect for them. We're gonna have to
play really well, and you know it's on what you
expect when you're when you're playing in those four or five,
six and beyond games. How what's you know? I don't
does the does the twelve five help you get your
team's attention? Because having been in those locker rooms as

(01:30:14):
a player, I know that every team you play, the
coach that comes in AND's like, hey, these guys can
smash you. These guys really good. Then you throw on
the tape. It's like South Dakota State, there's no names
in the back of the jersey. It's it's hard when
you're to Ohio State, no matter no matter how how
bad you they were last year for kids to realize
South Dakotas date is really good, can beat you. Been

(01:30:34):
in the n c A tournament. What was their response
to the matchup? Well, the unique thing is, Doug, I
think they have great respect for them. They've also seen
a lot of people and we get it, a lot
of people picking them to win the game. I think
you know they've they've heard it and seen it and
and that's that's normal. I think that's a popular uh
you know, twelve pop five or a popular pick, and

(01:30:55):
they're really good. South Dakota State is really good. But
you know, the unique thing is they've been to the
tournament more than we have the last few years. You know,
we have three returning guys that have played in an
instably tournament game. They have, Um, I think they've been
there the last two years or three out of the
last four maybe, UM. So I do think having a
little bit of an older group that is that um,

(01:31:18):
not much was expected of. I think they understand. Listen,
we can go home really early if we don't play well.
Our attention to detail is going to have to be
on point. Uh, if not at to be a short
stay in Boise. Yeah. Um. What about the matchup itself
in terms of style wise? Of course, Beta katsu uh

(01:31:38):
is more of your four men that can stretch you.
Do you match up with with having their five men
out on the basketball floor. We'll have to look at
a couple of different matchups both for him and they
do a lot of They spread you out as you'd expect.
Their guards can attack the paint. But they have a
terrific freshman guard. I don't know if you've if you've
seen him or not done, but he's he's really good.

(01:31:59):
Um And I think he's a bona fide high major guard.
And they've got They've just got a lot of really
good players, so they'll try to spread us out. I
think um our ability to kind of communicate and match
up and no personnel and uh, get them out of
their rhythm team and they're great when they get in
a rhythm. They also played a pretty good pace I

(01:32:21):
think there. Uh, they're tempo was number one in their league. Um,
they play at an exceptional pace. And hopefully we're gonna
be able to make some shots and then uh, you know,
go to our big guys inside as well. It should
be A Jenkins is the kid's name, right, he's uh,
a Washington kid. Who's the freshman. I think he's their
secondly exactly right, you've never lost a first round game.

(01:32:43):
I'm not trying to jinx you. You never lost a
first round game. Is there do you have Are you superstitious?
Do you have things that I always do this and
that's why we never lose, you know? Um, no, losing
to the conference tournament that probably helps. Uh. I don't
know if it gave us a few more days to
prepare air, but uh, well we'll go through. It's certainly
got our guys attention to when we were bother the

(01:33:04):
one thing that I think, you know that I appreciate
it when I was at Butler is that our guys
always had great appreciation for whoever we were playing and
an understanding of what you know has to take place
possession by possession in this thing to advance. And you
know what's unique, like I said, because we haven't been

(01:33:25):
through that experience together as a group here, So I'm
anxious to see what our guys responses in the moment
on Thursday. Last thing about the league, UM, A lot
of people are on Michigan because well, John Beelin's team
has really turned around defensively, they were super impressive winning
the Big Ten. UM. There's a substantial group of people
that are picking Michigan State to win the national championship.

(01:33:45):
Then there's Perdue, who they are a really hard team
to cover because they shoot it so well and they
have that behemoth inside in Isaac haas Um. If if
you were a betting man and uh and you can't
pick your own team, which Big ten team would you
most expect to be in the final four? I think
Michigan is playing the best right now, and I thought
going into the Big Ten tournament, Doug Um, I actually

(01:34:09):
said on the bus, I think heading over there or
headed into New York City, that I thought Michigan could
be a Final four team after just playing them late
in the season and then watching them and then it
didn't surprise me at all them winning the tournament. But
as you mentioned earlier, I think I heard you say this,
it's true, like you can be a hot team and

(01:34:29):
you can you can get dropped early in this thing.
So that doesn't guarantee that they're going to be there,
but I think they're playing as well as anybody. I
do think that Michigan States are the most complete team,
and I think perdue UH has a great chance to
advance deep as well. It's gonna depend on UH matchups,
I think, to some degree, maybe more so UH in

(01:34:51):
in a Purdue game than than anything. But I think
all three of those teams have a great chance to
advance deep. I really do. Can be fascinated to see
if they play your old team in Butler in the
second round. By the way, a couple of things, Okay,
you're now the coach at Ohio State. One, you're not
supposed to give compliments, and too you're supposed to call
them the team from the North to that team up North. Okay,
I just I don't I don't want to get you

(01:35:11):
in trouble. Like everybody loves you there, great season. I
don't want them to go like holping, get on in
here right now? Are you listen? Listen? Urban is giving
me pointers on that but multiple times, so you're right,
I gotta stay on point with all that. I know that.
It's it's really hard to not respect what b line
does up there. You know, when guys do it and
do it the right way and the team gets better. Uh,
it's hard. It's something hard not to tip your cap. Hey,

(01:35:32):
best of luck. Hopefully take down the jack Rabbits and
we'll talk to you as as you move on to
the tournament. Thanks man, great Senior, New York City. Say
that's Chris Holtman, the head coach of the Ohio State University.
Might get a shot at Gonzaga again. They gotta take
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Doug otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I told you there
was something different when Garoppolo was under center, right, that
there was just there's the I can't explain it, but

(01:37:40):
you feel like it's coming. And obviously they were undefeated
in games that he started. But Nick Shook writes for
NFL dot Com. He writes that Jimmy Garoppolo changed everything.
Not too long ago, he writes, San Francisco was considered
a seller, dwelling franchise, devoid of talent, long road ahead, irrelevance.

(01:38:00):
Forty niners without a franchise quarterback, fresh off two seasons
of absolute and aptitude under Tom Sula and Kelly and
when without a win nine weeks into the two thousand
seventeen season, enter Garoppolo had in law since Richard Sherman
just signed with the Niners, and he says he is

(01:38:21):
a huge part. The way they played down the stretch
was inspiring. It was incredible. Sometimes quarterbacks get hot and
the next year they fall off the face of the
earth and you don't hear from again. When I saw
with him as poise, I saw leadership. I saw the
respect of his teammates. I saw the command of the offense.
You've only been there a few weeks. He saw NFL films,
so he did. He watched that NFL films thing where

(01:38:43):
he's like, you do this, and you do that, and
you're gonna get open and I'm gonna throw it here,
and he did it. Slip him and look as you're
like slipping him about banging on you because he has
to turn his hymns. The safeties are so deep yard
I'll bend you across a little bit. If he's playing
on top of you. Though, you can do one of
these and then go to steal it out. A football player,

(01:39:04):
let's be a football player. Be a football player. It
was amazing. Let's also be honest, though, this is the
bitter dumped ex girlfriend you know, now engaged to your
best friend. That's what it is. So it is like

(01:39:25):
you visit one team and he's signed there. I completely
get how enamored and everybody's an amor with Garoppolo. It's
gonna go down as one of the worst trades in
the history of football. Here take him, We'll take a
second round pick. Sure we get a first forward. Sure
he's a franchise quarterback. Sure he studied under Tom Brady
and under and under Josh McDaniels. But here's second round pick.

(01:39:46):
Good enough? Fine, then not with the Niners, with the
with the Patriots. Did is the reason I hate when
my wife has a yard sale. Roma's your wife yard too, Yes,
she has doug we've had she's had two or three
of them at okay, And so here's what my my
wife always like, Well look at the yard. So you

(01:40:07):
can't ask for a bunch of money for stuff like, well, hey,
guess what that stuff you have is worth a bunch
of money? Sell it online? Well it's such a pain
in the but you do't ever know if they're gonna
show up whatever, like, but you gotta get appropriate value
for something. People will try to drive it down. But
I agree with you. You have to start at a
high rate so that yeah, I can't sell something you
bought for fifty dollars for for fifty cents or I understand.

(01:40:31):
And you know, like yard sale people, they they show up,
they're like ants. There's like one, there's two. They're like,
oh my god, and then all picking apart your stuff.
And my wife's like, I don't want to sell it online.
My are you guys familiar with the brand Lulu Lemon? Uh?
It's very flattering gear. If they have guys here, that's
just comfortable too. It's very flattering, kind of yoga esque

(01:40:54):
type comfortable. They also have like casual clothing as well.
It's expensive. And so my sister in law like she'll
sell her. She sells hers online, not for what she
paid for them, but she'll wear him for you know,
half a year a year, and then she'll sell online.
You know what was ninety bucks to sell for forty? Well,
I was like, well, I would never I would never
do that. But she got forty dollars or something that

(01:41:15):
had no value. If you sell the yard. So you
got a sell for like two bucks. That's what That's
what the Patriots had to get rid of Garoppolo at
the end of this year. They had to couldn't afford
the resign, and he didn't want to be there. I'm
not disputing that they had to make the trade they did.
I'm disputing the value they got returned, considering he just
he got the biggest contract in the history of the sport.

(01:41:37):
And granted it was helped by by starting for whatever
six games, but they basically yard saled him. They had
a Monai and the yard sale and they're like ten bucks, okay,
and then they walk in like, hey, we had ten bucks.
That was a Monai. That's worth two million dollars. You know,
yard sale values economy Trump Obama, by the way, his

(01:42:02):
Trump taken credit yet for um Tiger Woods being back.
You know, they played golf together not long ago. We
did good. Dan Buyer bought me a tea. It's really nice,
very nice of him. What a would tea like the

(01:42:23):
little ones you stick in the ground. No, No, like
a piece. It's called a piece iced tea, half iced tea,
half lemonade. T s. You were talking about golf, so
I just assumed it was a t I'd like to
purchase one tea at this golf store. However, one half
of a cent. I've ever told you guys about how
golf and adult movies are the same. Oh I think

(01:42:44):
we remember that one? Really? Yeah? Okay? Um, when you
watch golf, do you want to play golf? Are you're watching? Yesterday?
You watching Tiger Way golf? Will you ever be as
good as what you see on TV? No? No, no,
you will not. Um, you realize that they're much they're

(01:43:04):
they're playing courses you would never play. They're better than
you would ever play. Here's the other one. Now, I
don't know how Lisa feels about you watching golf. But
you're sitting alone on a Saturday watching golf or Sunday
watching golf. Does she come in and say, what are
you watching? My wife does? I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
she enjoys golf. She enjoys golf, She like watching it
on TV. Yestally she does. That's different, Ramos. If you

(01:43:26):
have golf on TVs, your wife's like, what are you watching?
That is exactly right. San has no interest in golf whatsoever,
play it to watch right, it's kind of a guy
I think. To watch it on TV, I feel like
maybe a hardcore golfer thing. If Lisa likes hardcore golf thing.
I bring it up because adult movies. Will you ever
be as good as the actors and actresses on TV?

(01:43:46):
Taking a long time overlong time ago, right, You'll never
be playing those courses those not You're not gonna be
able to walk over to a copier and say how's
the ink and all of a sudden get it on
at the office like that doesn't happen, doesn't happen? Um? Yeah,
But but just like golf, you want to play golf

(01:44:08):
watching it on TV, you can always pick up a
tip from a pro. Again, I never thought of that
shot from that angle. You guys, your your heads in
the gutter and uh well, a lot of times if
you're watching it by yourself and your wife walks in,
She's like, what are you watching? It's beautiful day outside,
to get outside anyway, let's get a damn buyer for
an update. Did I sell you at all on that nort? No? Yeah? No, no,

(01:44:30):
yes he did, Yes he did. I'm so you can
always pick up a tip from a pro. Just remember
that that is true. Speaking of Tiger Woods, he associated
Press reporter earlier today that Tiger is expected to be
named the captain of the nineteen President's Cup team. Now
that's when the United States takes on an international squad.
Tiger could be a plane captain of that team if

(01:44:51):
he qualifies as well, with something to look forward to
in ten. There's also more news on Tigers and yesterday's
Valspar Championship. By the way, Doug valves Bara Paint, So
it's a paint company, and in fact their trophy is
very clever because it has a paint brush with a
nice um, like a nice paint movement on it, a

(01:45:11):
swipe of paint with a golf ball at the end.
It's very clever. Ratings were up one hundred and eighty
three percent from last year from the seventeen Valspar Invitational
to the Jordan's Speed One of a couple of years ago.
They were up from amazing on the NFL is intended.
Bengals acquired tackle according Glenn, from the Buffalo Bills. Bills

(01:45:34):
moved up to number twelve in the first round of
the draft. Bengals will drop down to number twenty one.
Dolphin's gonna let go of and Dominicans Sue and linebacker
Lawrence Timmins. And finally Marcus Smart of the Celtics out
in definitely with a torn tendon in his thumb. According
to the Vertical, Kyrie Irving could miss a week because
of a sore knee. Back to you, Doug gatlim Show,
Fox flor Radio. By the way, ratings all time high

(01:45:56):
for ESPN's bracketology that because TBS chose to give away
the brackets in the first twenty minutes. Who was my
argument the whole time? Right, my argument the entire time,
which was why are you are you giving away the brackets?
Everybody's gonna turn to the channel. Uh. This guy had

(01:46:21):
quite the interesting week. First, he's in his hometown and
he's taken the province Friars now to their fifth consecutive
and a term that's never been done before, in addition
to winning a couple of wars, including beaten Xavier for
the second time this year before falling to Villanova in
the Big East Championship game. Had had a wardrobe malfunction ed.

(01:46:44):
Cooley joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Listen, you
used to be heavy now you're not. How are you
splitting your pants now? In all honest the idea, I
called our seep stress and the people who wo do
our clothes, and I told him they may need a
new client because that was it was funny because I

(01:47:04):
didn't know, and then I kept feeling I said, wow,
it's chilly, and here all of a sudden, what happened?
So now you know what. You gotta make him fun
of yourself. It like for everybody who really knows me,
I'm surprised I didn't take my pants off and just
coach him underwear. You know, that's why. Maybe that's why
Huggy always wear sweats, right, you maybe have to go
Bob Huggins goes sweats and and pull over the the

(01:47:26):
Natalie it's hired normally. Ed Cooley joins us on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Your Your team is fascinating because, as
you and I discussed when I call your game, you
lost Evan Emmett Holt earlier in the season, and he's
such an important part, not just in terms of the
numbers that he puts up, but in the way in
which it allows you to play, gives you a guy
can step out and shoot threes. You can score in

(01:47:46):
the post as well, So it took you a while
to evolve to this team. How long before you kind
of knew what you had I think a couple of
things happened. I think, you know, we had to have
some honest conversations with these each other, based on chemistry,
on roles, on you know, this is the deepest team
that I've coached. But you can't play thirteen guys. You

(01:48:07):
can't play twelve guys, so you had to have some
real conversations. And when that happened, I thought guys were
at least on the same page on honesty. The second
thing that happened was I think as we were getting
close to the end of the year, we were trying
to become a tournament team, and I met with the
seniors and I talked to them about they would be
the only class in the history of Providence College up

(01:48:27):
to this point to go to four consecutive n C
Double A tournaments. So we talked about legacy, not how
you start, how you finished. And then I thought, lastly,
the best thing that happened was Madison Square Garden, the
biggest tournament, the energy, the excitement in the building made
us play at another level. So that was great to see. Um, alright,
so how much gas is in the tank? Have you

(01:48:48):
guys expended a lot with but three? You know, you
had all those overtime games and then you play Nova
for a Big East Championship in the garden. There is
a ton of energy playing at MSG. How how much
gas is in the tank for your game which is
a tough one against Texas A and M. Well, I
thought we had a great practice today. We only practiced
for like an hour, you know, we you know, we

(01:49:10):
we didn't want any film yet. We concentrated on some
systematic things in order to try to play with and
play against Texas A and M. Because they have great size,
they rebound the hell out the ball. Um, they're well coached. Uh,
so we're gonna have to make sure we're disciplined in
our approach and what we're trying to do. And the
guys were great today. They had great energy. Uh. There's

(01:49:31):
a snowstorm coming up the east, so we'll practice tomorrow morning. Um,
I think there's a lot left in the tank. The
success in the Big East tournament gave our guys a
lot of energy and a lot a lot of desire
to keep playing. Yeah, and you know, also an extra
day doesn't hurt either too, right you guys, don't you
guys play Friday against an M Yeah? Yeah. I thank
the committee for for letting us, uh for forgetting us

(01:49:52):
to Friday, because we definitely could use the rest. What
has been the secret? You know, Province is a program
that it's had some tremendous coaches, tremendous coaches historically, but
there's been a lack of consistency. You've been able to
come back home and five straight years at PC, and look,
the Big East is a war double round Robbins. All

(01:50:12):
the schools are essentially just about the same. Obviously Nova
has been the top of the league. But yet all
private schools along the eastern and midwestern UH Eastern seaboard
in the into the Midwest. How have you been able
to be consistent? Which is the hardest thing to build
a PC? Well, I think our leadership, I think Father
Father Shanley, our President, Bob Driscoll, you know, our board

(01:50:35):
of direct our board of trustees. They've allocated funds, um,
they're all in to try to help us build a
brand nationally UM, not just regionally. As a great academic
institution that supports athletics, and they've been unbelievable. Our staff
has been great. Jeff Battle who was on his third year, uh,
Brian Blaney is on his tenth year with me Ivan

(01:50:57):
Thomas on his fourth year as his Jeff. But I
just think the consistency of everything has allowed us to
recruit a higher level player. It's allowed us, you know,
I think television has helped, and winning, winning has helped.
Winning has helped attract you know, different players that haven't
been consistently coming to Providence through the years. And the
fact that we have continuity at the head coaches seat

(01:51:20):
where there's not turnover or there's not a job that's
out there that everybody you know thinks you should take. Um.
I think all those things have helped us build a program. Yeah,
but you got a men, it's pretty crazy. I mean
think about it and like the job, like for example,
Yukon comes open over the weekend, right and if not
for the fact you've got a top ten recruiting class,
you're front Providence. Like you go back four years ago

(01:51:41):
and you would say you count of the Providence job.
What's the question? How quickly do I leave, but province
has become a better job. So take when the when
the Big East reformed, did you yet to one seeds
out of the that the same Big East Conference once
it's been reformed. How did this happen? How? How is
this able to be a league that went from kind

(01:52:01):
of a combination of some high to some upper mid
majors to becoming a league that produces two one seeds? Well,
I think the presidents were really smart. The A D
s were really smart when they took the monster of
football out of the equation because it was always a
moving target, the football schools leaving on, the basketball schools leaving.
Once we decided to be a basketball centric league and

(01:52:24):
a lot of resources went into just basketball. We we've
been able to build that that way, you know, and
when you look at it, most of the coaches have
remained at the schools. You know, most of the coaches
have stayed there, so there's not a lot of turnover
and the consistency if you look over the five years
since we reconfigured, how many coaching changes have been made? Three?

(01:52:46):
Maybe four? Well, Butler's had I guess three, really right?
They kind of fell into Chris Holtman who was on
the staff. Uh, the Paul has had one, right, I
mean the successful ones obviously haven't changed. Craton hasn't change,
Davia hasn't changed. Marquette had one. Uh when when Buzz
left that was that was a couple of years ago.
But yeah, you're you're mostly right. That's the difference, right

(01:53:07):
is that now when when you win, you don't leave
and chase the dollar. Chris mac has not chased any
more money. Um, and you know St. John's obviously made
a change, but they've they've struggled, and maybe that's why
they struggled to find consistency. I I think as much
consistency consistency you can have with staff, with the head coach,
and then you know, being allowed to do things from

(01:53:28):
a recruiting standpoint, you know, being able to go see
kids on a minute's notice, being able to uh, you know,
upgrade your facilities. Everything everything in our in our business
is about recruiting. So hopefully hopefully the you know, the
Big East continues to do that and around Robin helps.
You know, when you have some of the off balance leagues,

(01:53:49):
you can never get some of those teams at home,
you know, so that helps and then you go on
in tough environments on the road. It prepares you to
get to that tournament. So I think we're battle tested
the leagues. You know, val ackerm is doing a great
job with her staff. Um. I'm really proud of six
teams once again getting into the tournament from the league's
pretty dog one good, you know, really really good, and

(01:54:13):
and the and the depth of the league probably ate
up Marquette to be honest that they might make they
make an n C a term in a different league.
Want to ask you about Yran Cartwright, your point guard
who kind of had an up and down senior year,
but he has this he has this ability in a
big moment to just make up, make up play. What's
what's what's this experience? I mean he was originally going
to play for Max Good at Low LA Merrymount, and

(01:54:34):
you know then he was the backup he had Chris Donne,
an All American Lottery pick. Uh. What's what's it like
to coach a player who had times can be very frustrating,
but at times you go, hey, man, just go make
a play, and he does it. He is the smartest
player I've ever coached. And second would be Jared Dudley.
Their minds see things before it happens. High high high basketball.

(01:54:57):
Like you you know, it does get frustrating because I
want more to Kirra, and I think Kiren wants out
of himself. He's a great kid, unbelievable ambassador for the school,
great student. But I think in the big moments is
what he plays for. And I said, you have to
have more consistency every day, not just the big moment.
He's probably had eight to ten game winners since we've

(01:55:17):
had him over four years. Um, you know, hopefully from
here on out because you know, his his next loss
is his last loss here. Uh, he understands that this
is really valuable and when he plays well, we're really
tough out. Yeah, you know, you know it is Jared
Dudley him West Coast guys. That just shows you, you know,
you East Coast Northeast were so much tougher. You got

(01:55:38):
to get the smart guys in the West Coast. That's
what you have to do. That's that's what that's what
Craig Smith and Jared Dudley came from the West Coast.
When you all those games are an assistant at BC.
Same thing in Providence. I encourage you to get out
here getting the sun. When you want to play golf,
you always go play in Fairfield. Why don't you come
play course in the West Coast. I know I love
playing golf. I'm not very good. I'm not very good,
but I'll come dress like I'm a two man. Okay,

(01:56:00):
So here's the real question. All right, yesterday, yesterday, you're
getting ready for the selection show. But Tiger on eighteen
I know, had had it gone, had it go to
had it gone to extra holes, would you have been
watching Tiger or would you been watching to where your
team went? True transparency. Yes, I'm watching Tiger. Interesting, Oh

(01:56:25):
my god, I'm sitting there white waiting for the sections going.
People are freaking out, people hugging out. So you know
what one of our coaches came to Did you see
the putom? Like? Of course I did. What do you mean?
I tell you it's what a sport you know where
it's just you the course in the ball um. There's Honestly,
I fell in love with maybe ten years ago. I'm

(01:56:46):
not very good, but I enjoyed playing because nobody can
bother you. It's just a great time. We'll find you
some more West Coast kids. When you come out here,
we'll play some golf in the meantime. Take care of
the aggies and then ho hum, maybe you have North
Carolina in your second game. It's never easy for the
pc fors for the fifth straight year. Uh there in
the n s A tourmament thanks to this guy, Ed Cooley.
Get some new slacks and we'll talk to you soon. Man,
Thank a lot, guys, have a good one. All right.

(01:57:08):
That's Ed Cooley joining us, who's one of the absolute gems, good,
great people in the sport. What a great ambassador to
his hometown. And he has led the Friars to five
straight n c A tournament. That's that's beautiful. He's like
watching golf. M Could Aaron Rodgers finally get the help
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(01:57:53):
is their point guard. You're gonna hear a lot about
him before the uh for the first four a lot
about him. Um, and I think he's I think he's
super super talent kid. Uh. But the best player for
u c l A is also their point guard in
Aaron Holiday. And but when you cross the when when

(01:58:14):
two guys cross each other out comes down to the
rest of the team. U c l A's overall talent,
Thomas Welch as a senior, I think is is just
a little bit better. Um. So I love Mark Murphy
and that's that story of what they've been able to
create at St. Bonaventure. But I like u c l
A even though us L as a three point talk.

(01:58:34):
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Find an agent at Farmers dot com farmer buyer, damn
buy what he got well, Doug we got news in
the NFL. Touched on a little bit earlier, but the
Buffalo Bills moving on up in the first round of
the draft, they traded left tackle Cordy Glenn to the
Cincinnati Bengals. Buffalo will now get Cincinnati's first round pick.

(01:59:19):
That's twelfth over all, the Bengals dropping down to number one.
That's weird as it sounds like it feels like a
really good trade for Cincinnati Bengals does yes, but they're
the switch spots. Yep, has your contract issues there? No,
he he has been on the block. But it's also

(01:59:40):
maybe this is the move prior to the move where
Buffalo tries to jump up into that top. No question,
they want a quarterback. They're they're done with quarterback purgatory.
They want to go get a quarterback. I think it's
dangerous game that Sean mcdermot's playing their defensive guy. You
gotta find a quarterback, you know, he thought he had
Nate Peter. Mean, he thought Nate Peterman was a quarterback.
To how that worked. Five interceptions later, the Green Bay

(02:00:02):
Packers have a quarterback that's Aaron Rodgers, and apparently they're
looking for help Not only is there a report that
the Packers are interested in free Chententenna and Jimmy Graham,
as is a possible reunion with the Saints for Graham,
but also that Green Bay is interested in free agent
wide receiver Sammy Watkins. Well, the Bear is also interested
in Watkins. Watkins. I think it's all about number money

(02:00:24):
and number of years, because he's a guy who's had
a bunch of foot problems and has struggled to be consistent.
For Jimmy Graham, you know, does he go back to
the Saints where obviously he would fit in terms of
schematically what they want to do. Where do you have
a better chance to win a championship playing indoors well
with Drew Brees for a year or two years or

(02:00:45):
the Aaron Rodgers feels like there's a longer shelf life.
But do they have the defense, whereas the Saints feel
like they fixed their defense. The Miami Dolphins set to
release defensive tackle and Tomkins sue three years after signing
a fourteen million dollar contract. How that deal work out
for them? Huh yeah, not so much. The Associated Press

(02:01:06):
reports that Tiger Woods is expected to be named captain
of the nineteen President's Cup team a possibility he could
be a playing captain. And I did touch on this
a little bit earlier on the ratings for the Valve
Spar over the weekend, Doug. The rating came in at
a five point one rating on NBC. As part of
the press release sent out by the network, they noted
that yesterday's rating was higher than every PGA Championship telecast,

(02:01:30):
every US Open telecast, and every Open championship since two
thousand when Tiger last one at St. Andrews. The people
like watching tager Woods play golf. Yeah, when they say
one man's um not bigger than the sport, I'm not
too sure about that. Yeah, this is the wind sport.
Where isn't back different Ellen more thinking? Um? Oh yeah,

(02:01:54):
Marcus Smart would indefinitely with a torn tendon in his
thumb for the Boston Celtics. Yeah, they also lost the backup.
Looks Carriering though that the news not as bad. Still
gonna sit some more games with the knees. Not as
bad as people thought. Get out there and pressed. That
was the press all right. I think tomorrow we'll have
to turn in our brackets because the first four starts tomorrow,
so all of us will have a little bracket challenge

(02:02:15):
with the crew. Are you okay with that? Ramos, I'm
good with it, Doug, what about you? Their music? You okay?
Looks like I'm gonna have to be Dougs okay, Buyer.
Do you have you picked out? You feel out your
bracket already? Yes? In the process, yes, almost complete. Did
you fill out your bracket already? Yes? Almost complete. We
all heard that right. It wasn't just that. Wasn't that

(02:02:37):
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