August 28, 2025 • 38 mins
the year 2004 is in focus as Doug and the crew feature that sports year on this installment of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday". Doug welcomes former sports business reporter Darren Rovell onto the show to discuss the Bill Belichick business plan he reported on this week. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through The Press.
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should do. We should play a little don't call it
throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
All right, Jay Stu, what do you got? Bye?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I want
all the listeners and the contributors on the show to
think of what they were doing twenty one years ago,
this week, twenty one years ago, this week, the year
two thousand and four. My goodness, what was going on
in two thousand and four. I think we're in the
middle of two terms for George W. Bunch of fun stuff.
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Bunch of fun stuff. But what did happen specific I
found this gem. I don't know if you remember this,
but on a list of most memorable Week one games
in the history of college football, this came up. Now
listen to the game and then listen to all the
fun names that are associated with it. So twenty one
years ago, Isaac LSU played Oregon State. Why is that significant? Well,
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LSU was coming off a national title that Nick Saban
just won for them. If you don't recall it, also
would eventually be Nick Saban's last year in LSU before
taking the Dolphins job. But what happened in between? They
played a humdinger Week one against Oregon State. Mike Riley
was the head coach at Oregon State. It went down
to the wire, so much so that it went into
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overtime and on the conversion attempt, Isaac Oregon State's kicker
Alex Serna missed the extra point in overtime. I remember
m LSU wins by one point. They came in a
thirteen point favorite on the list of most Memorable Week
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one games and the history of college football twenty one
days this weekend. Now, Doug, I told you this would
be Nick Saban's final year at LSU. Do we remember
anything else from that two thousand and four college football season?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
God, so many things. I'm trying to think where to start.
Almost here here with it.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The Iowa Hockeys were co Big Ten champions of the
Big Ten, sharing the title with Michigan.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
You have him and energy takes a mile, and then of.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Course, uh, actually we're talking about oh four, well Iowa.
You know, Iowa ended up beating Nick Saban the Capitol
One Bowl. But I think we're we always give this
whole time frame mixed up. That was Nick Saban's last
game at LSU. We lost Iowa and the Capitol One
Bowl and a Hail Mary touchdown. Anyway, we're getting off
topic here. The National champions we January fourth, two thousand
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and four. If we're going three into four, Oh no.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
We're going to do this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We don't get that. I thought we went.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
I thought we went three. Oh no, we do four?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Five?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yes, we would have been doing this a year or so.
I gotta give.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I know Dan always, Dan has to be here to
set the record straight.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
If this record has been set.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
No, we we goof it up we we we hear
it was the USC Trojans who pounded Oklahoma. But then
that that AP title was later removed, that that title
was stripped, wasn't it? I was here to the US
specialist you talk about this.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Let's let's get to what what was big and O
for Capital Idea?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay? What was big and O four?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like the National Championship Game?
Speaker 7 (04:47):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Who won the World Series four?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I will mean the Boston Red Sox breaking the streak.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean, listen, I love college football. College football essentially
starts today, although it started last week and whatever. But
two thousand and four was about one thing, the Red
Sox come back and then the Red Sox breaking the streak.
It wasn't just that they broke the curse of the Bambino.
They did so after trilling three games to none to
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the Yankees. And who stole second base to trigger the rally?
Dave Roberts, Jason Stewart's favorite computer printout manager.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I liked him in that spot, I really did.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Who, by the way, had been traded shockingly at the
trade deadline from the Dodgers by Menende's brother looked like
Paul D. Podesta at the trading deadline that season.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It was a killer trade.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Very good, very good.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
What were the Menendez brothers doing in two thousand and four, same.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Thing they were doing in a lot of other years recently.
I'll throw go ahead, Doug.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Who did they play in the World Series the Saint.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Louis Cardinals, as I recall, and they swept him? Yeah?
And didn't they film that movie with Jimmy Fallon and
Drew Barrymore on the field as the final out was going,
Gee fever, pitch, fever, pitch That's right. In other non
championship two thousand and four activities, but notable nonetheless, the
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National Hockey League's entire season of four to five was
canceled because of a lockout. I mean, we all know
that the World Series was canceled because of the strike
in nineteen ninety four, but it's still the first and
still only time that a professional a major professional sports
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entire season has been wiped out because of a workstoppage
two thousand and four to two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Two thousand and four was the famous NFL draft where
Eli Manning went to the Chargers but was going to
refuse to play for the Chargers. So the Chargers then
pulled off a draft day trade where Philip Rivers, who
was drafted fourth, was traded for Eli Manning. And here's
here's the big question coming to that. Who won that trade?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
The Giants got two Super Bowl wins. No, which one
will be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, Eli will be a Hall of Famer, but they're
both Hall of famer. I mean they'll both be Hall
of famers.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Is Philip Rivers a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, what did the
what did the the Chargers got Philip Rivers. They got
another third round pick uh that became Nate Cating. And
they also they also got Sean Merriman. That's all part
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of that. They got. That was the giants two thousand
and five first run. So I mean they got was
he rookie of the year. I mean, they got a
Hall of Fame quarterback, they got a Pro Bowl kicker
and a Rookie of the Year pass rusher. Like the
Chargers won the trade. The Giants won two Super Bowls. Great,
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he's a Eli's a great player. Chargers won that trade.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Go Chargas Go.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I just got a call on the hot line. This
is really very strange. So Doug just said, hands down,
the most memorable moment of two thousand and four was
the Red Sox. I just got a hot I just
got a call on the hot line from Janet Jackson's
right breast saying they were the most significant moment in
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two thousand and four. Justin Timberlake and the costume malfunction.
Heard run movies changed the way TV was presented. The
FCC came down, hardcore people had to apologize, and then
TV became that much more watered down network television. That
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Cup was spring loaded.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Who again called you Janet Jackson's right breast.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Very impressive that that that cup was booby trapped. It
was spring loaded. I mean, I think popped off that
thing we had.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
In college basketball, Yukon was your national champion.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
They they beat Georgia Tech badly in the National champiship game.
But the the game was known for the semi final
game where Yukon ended up beating Duke, and then Duke
had a last second shot that took the game from
a four point game to one point game where a
ton of money changed hands.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
You guys remember this.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I believe it was Chris Douhan. Wow, did you don't
know about this?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Well I don't just don't remember that. But how about that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, so I think it was Chris Duhon in I
want to say so it was a The Douhon shot
was a one legged bank shot at the buzzer that
took the game to a one point game instead of four. Okay,
But it was the classic bad beat in the history
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of all bad beats because the spread was two or
two and a half.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Thought, you guys, Chris crosses the gamblers. Something else that
happened in two thousand and four and concluded in two
thousand and four. I think the single most controversial an
event filled season by any team in recent memory in
professional sports. And if you want to correct me if
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I'm wrong, that's fine. But the Los Angeles Lakers that year.
It was in the middle of the Kobe Bryant legal case,
it was the last year of Phil Jackson's contract, Shaq
was rumored to be traded, Shack demanding an extension in
the preseason, and Shaq and Kobe having their worst possible
public feud the day before the regular season started, to
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the point where they almost got into a physical brawl
and the Lakers had to call Brian Shaw down from
Northern California to keep the peace. Karl Malone and Gary
Payton are in playing on one year contracts. They make
it to the NBA Finals with the point four Derek
fishershot in Round two against the Spurs. Kobe is going
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on private jets from pre trial hearings in Colorado to
play that night in Los Angeles multiple times. Yeah, and
they wind up losing in the NBA Finals to the
Pistons in five games. Still, I think that that was
the most controversial event filled single season with the most
drama of any team in recent professional sports history. V.
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Three four Lakers.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Pretty good, Dilough, pretty good.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
It was right off the top of his head too.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What happened? We got to We haven't gotten to the
National Football League, have we?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Remember, Sam All, this is two thousand and four, which
means it's the two thousand and five playoffs. Okay, two
thousand and four, which is the two thousand and five.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Play You got it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, And that would be a man who is
now at the Helm at Chapel Bill Man at the
time heading up the New England Patriots where you're Super
Bowl thirty nine. Yep, you got it. I was reading
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the Roman numerals.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
The first of the back to backs or the second
of the dock to backs. No, that was the second
of back to backs.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, second of back to backs.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
They won the Ajanta Jackson Bowl. By the way, here's
an odd trivia question. Who was Washington's head coach in
the two thousand and four season.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Jim Moore Junior.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
The Washington Washington Now, sorry it was yeah, Sam, you
got it. It was Joe Gibbs. Believe it or don't
be in his second stint, they went six and ten
that year.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Do we say, who did I tell the Tim hasselback
story on that one? Guys?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
No, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, Timmy told me he was in the quarterback room
on that year and when they went to the offensive install,
Joe Gibbs broke out the old tape and the wide
receivers were in a three point stance. Oh boy, and
the guys are rolling. I was like, oh boy, we
may need to modernize this offense.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Tim Hasselback, Yeah, oh man, you got a Tim hasselback story,
so do what. So at some point Tim Hasselback came
in studio to do an interview on the Jim Rome Show,
and on the elevator ride up, I asked him, I'm like,
what kind of music you're listening to right now? And
his answer wasn't surprising at all. In fact, in the
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twenty one years since since, this song was the best
song in the world. I've said in the history of music,
there is not one song that gets old white people
on a dance floor faster than this song.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, yes, yes, chutcha.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
A.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I wish they would get back together. I just wish
they'd get back together.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
A h.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
A lot of hits, and.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's certainly the first time that I ever was introduced
to Outcast, But I guess they had been a big
thing for quite some time and they met it. They
made a ton of money in the business. I don't
know if it was before this song, after the song,
or both, but Outcast, hey, yeah, top the charts for
thirteen weeks in two thousand and four.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Long thirteen weeks. I don't like the end of the song,
and they had.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I mean, it's it's not my favorite Outcast song, but Outcasts?
Do you not like Outcasts at all?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I love No, it's just this song over and over
and over and over and over again. Songs, Yeah, but
sometimes they jump the Shark.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Highest grossing films Shrek two, Wow, Spider Man two, Meet
the Falkers, The Incredibles Great Movie, and The Passion of
the Christ.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Oh no kidding, that was two thousand and four, okay.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Jim cafeezl.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah. The Passion of the Christ.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
A Million Dollar Baby won the OSCAR for Best Picture.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Of the Great Movie.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Controversial film, sports movie.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And controversial about it the ending.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
You can spoil it, Shed assisted.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Suicide, Yeah, man was really controversial.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I mean, yeah, you know, that's pretty controversial.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I'm going to see that movie tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, but wait, wait where was it controversial?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Like there were no like well, so was it Clint Eastwood?
Wasn't Clint Eastwood? Like the boxing instructor and he had
to decide at the end he had to like pull
the plug on her because she was in a coma,
and of course, you know, yeah she wanted him to,
but obviously I know. But it also, like, let's not
forget like people like Jackie Orkian existed and he was
pretty controversial.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
So I heard he gave it two thumbs up. All right.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Is he dead at that point or in jail or
I don't even.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Know anyway that the movies that year also under the radar,
Two Good Ones, Mean Girls, and Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
By the way, two thousand and four classic Napoleon Dynamite
is still a great watch.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You know yet that I love them. It's so original.
It was made for like two hundred thousand dollars or
one hundred thousand dollars. John Hayter, I think I'm saying
his name right, the who played in Napoleon Dinamond. He
was only paid they shot the movie in three weeks
and he was only paid one thousand dollars total, So
I hope he got little royalties after.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, acting scale usually for independent movies.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yeah, but I mean so like even in two thousand
and four, that's like three hundred bucks a week. That's
not a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The actor that I think has gotten most work since
that movie, it didn't really spawn a bunch of careers
is Uncle Rico. He was recently in White Lotus Yep, yep.
But that character Uncle Rico, my gosh.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
We I mean Napoleon Dynamon comes up in sports discussions
all the time because of Uncle Rico, the washed up
high school quarterback who had delusions of grandeur. Well, if
the head coach would have put him in the game,
I mean you, he could throw a football them mountains
of mountains. So that was a nice sports tie. I think,
you know, people either loved that movie or they hate
that movie. There's really no in between.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I saw it in theaters.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I thought it was very original, very funny, very warm hearted.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Also making its debut in two thousand and four, Live
Strong Bracelets. Did anybody here wear Live Strong Bracelets?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I'm wearing the same style of like rubber band. I
don't know, live Strong style, but it's not Live Strong.
It says other things on it. But those were everywhere.
That was a showing of like you support cancer research.
What was it a dollar and that would go and
then it was like what two bucks a dollar and
it would go towards cancer research.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
But it was it was a Lance Armstrong thing.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean at the time he was
on top of the world with the US Postal Service.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Team, and wasn't that the great I mean, honestly, is
that the greatest downfall in this history of sports? I mean,
I'm like, it's either Tiger or him.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Right, Oh that's a good I think people welcome Tiger
back into you know, circles and the events and stuff,
and Lance is still trying to climb his way out
of that mess.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Oj wants a piece of this, Cora.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh yeah, sorry point, fair point.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I just got a text message. Fair Point, got a
text message.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You want to take a stab at it? So he said,
did he cut into this discussion?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
I think, OK, didn't die.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He just left this earth so he could look for
the real killers. Come on, where's my out? There, where's
my where's my rib shot? Thank you?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Quiet one?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Who just called you?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
J oh No, I got a text message from Big Mic.
He's literally, I think, as the crow flies. I think
he's probably three and a half feet from me. So
he sent me a text message. The most significant thing
that ever happened. That happened to me in two thousand
and four, as I started working at Fox Sports Radio.
All right, oh, twenty one years at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I just opened the blinds. I'm looking at Mike through
the blinds. He's flicking me off right now, Mic, twenty
one years anywhere is an awful long time. That's quite
the testimony.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Who knows? And by the way, two thousand and four,
congratulations Mike. It also marked the premieres of such shows
as Entourage and Desperate Housewives. And it's hard to convey
this to people who weren't around, but Desperate Housewives was
a huge sensation when at first premiere it was I.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Want to say it was one of the last over
the air network shows to just hit big.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Yeah. Maybe Lost came right around there. Yes, you're right,
it did.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yep, that Desperate Housewives show made a lot of women
just feel a warm inside and saucy and like, I
can do whatever I want. I can be a bad girl,
I can be a naughty lady and uh yeah, definitely
capture the attention of it.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I think the subtitle was what was it, Desperate Housewives?
Is that what it was called?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, Desperate Housewives? The subtitle why Women Hate Men. I
think every man cast on that show was in a
complete a hole.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Hmmm.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I think it was complicated.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I probably watched like three episodes of that.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I don't see that suba subheadline on there?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Unofficial?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Okay, your takeaway?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Oh geez? You know what else?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
What also happened in two thousand and four? What on
a relationship note? J Lo and Ben Affleck called off
their engagements and Britney Spears married Kevin federloon line?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, fed?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
I think did they share cave?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Do they share a kid together?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They do.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I haven't thought about FED in a long time. Benefer
benefit was the shortened benefit?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Do you want to you want to feel old? Kve
fed and Britney's kids are in their twenties.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Do you know it's the big social media social media
hit that year?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That was my Space? I never got onto the MySpace thing.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You didn't miss much.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It was cool for a while, right, I was Google Lunch, Gmail.
In four, Motorola had the Razor Phone. In O four,
the Nintendo DS came out as well as that little PSP.
There was something else that happened, oh iod Apple released
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the iPod Mini. He made an iPod mini, sure mini. Yeah,
And the biggest trend in fashion were uggs. Sadly, I
do have some.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Oh, I hear the cozying comfortable.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And Da Vinci Code was the top the best hour
list I've read that that's probably the last book I read. Wow,
I'm kidding sort of. Uh that don't call it throwback Thursday.
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do you guys see Rushi Rice was a suspended for
(23:38):
six games? All right? Fleeing hit and run. It's about right.
I mean, this is one of those like public pressure,
sped this thing up, made it happen faster. Can't say
anyone could disagree with it, and that The only healthy
thing I can think of is for she Rice is
accepting his punishment. So let's move on. Right, There's no
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real amount you could have suspended him, which is enough
for what he did. But they did click quick, quick enough,
decis enough, sped it up, got the process done. I
don't know makes it interesting for the Chargers taking on
the Chiefs. That's what a week from Friday, week from
tomorrow or is it two weeks from tomorrow? I get confused.
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It's the Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports. Ready,
let's welcome in our good friend, Darren Ravel. He created
the Cottage Industry where you cover the business of sports,
and yesterday some breaking news where Bill Belichick and his
girlfriend they're trademarking phrases and words and in one such
(24:40):
I think he's a phrase or whatever jumps out in
people's attention. But Darren Ravel joins us here on the
Doug Gottlieb show d ROV. So how does it work
with how do you take a phrase like gold digger
and trade market?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Okay, so I should tell you that gold digger is
trade marked in about one hundred and fifty different categories.
No one to this point has just tended to put
it on jewelry, which is surprising. So they filed for
the intent to use that. So you have to There's
two things that you have to do. You have to
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say what you're trademarking gold digger, and then what classification,
what category you are trademarking in. In this case it
was jewelry key chains. And then you say, okay, we
have an intent to use it, so we're actually going
to make jewelry and key chains. And then once you
can prove and show that you have made these and
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you have sold these, even sold one, then you can
get it trademarked. So that's how it works. So, I mean,
I understand the idea of like, oh it's funny Jordan
Hudson and people called their gold Digger, you know, and
now now she's just you know, for the irony of
it all. By the way, it costs like seven hundred
bucks a trademark. So if she wants to do it
just as a joke and there's not really jewelry or whatever,
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and she just wants to say, haha, well it's a
it's a good joke and it's cheap. But if she
really wants to do it, just be pretty amazing to
see it. North Carolina games, you know, are they going
to give the gold Digger chain to the cornerback when
he when he intercepts the football?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Dearra Bell, longtime sports business journalists, founder of a collect
media and kickstand cocktails. He joins us now on Fox
Sports Trade and the iHeartRadio app. What are some of
the other phrases and words that they're they're trying to trademark.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
So the craziest thing is, like in March and April,
they basically took all the things that were trademarked under
the Belichick era that that that the Patriots did right,
do your job and like a lot of these things
that were obviously tangential Belichick, and they file and they
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filed it the same words and then in parentheses bills
the version and it's like what what do you do?
Like what are you doing? Like it's just one of
those things. This is an extension a trail of salty tears,
trail of salty tears. UH they had. This is just
an extension of what is going on with them, Like
(27:12):
what is happening here?
Speaker 7 (27:14):
What?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Why? Why? Why would you uh you know, want to
ruffle the feathers of the NFL and and Bob Kraft
like it just it just seems like she is controlling
him and she thinks this is a good idea or
prove that she, you know, is a business person. She
runs many of the so so tce UH which which
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trademarked this is a company owned by Bill Belichick and
managed by Jordan Hudson. Like that's how it is. In
the when they file for UH the Department of Corporations
in the state, it says her name. It says her
name on a bunch of the real estate LLCs that
they've had, Like again, she the perception is it has
(28:00):
to be the reality now that she is definitely controlling him,
because obviously this is not the Bill Belichick that we
have come.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
To know, no, not even close. Kind of the opposites built, right,
it's kind of kind of the polar opposite. Hey hey
one more a business one. And again, I know you
broke this story WNBA lockout, which everybody says is like
October again, Like what how does that play out? I
(28:31):
feel like they had, you know, not having Caitlin Clark
around in the Olympics hurt the global reach, but then
there was some hope and then she's been hurt this year,
so the numbers haven't been as good. What happens with
the WNBA lockout?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I mean, you know, I remember in two thousand and four.
I can't believe it's twenty one years ago, Doug. I
remember in two thousand and four when Gary Bettman said,
now we're just going to shut it down for the year,
that's what we're going to do, and like and I'm like,
oh my god, that's he's not joking. And guess what
hockey is has is so much of a niche fit
(29:08):
and base that it's going to work. Like people are
going to come back and they're going to fix their system.
They're going to get the players under lower contracts, and
then people are just going to come back in the
same It's not going to be like like what happened
in ninety four with baseball, And sure enough, it happened
that way. And I think with the WNBA, you know,
(29:29):
they have come so far by the way, I think
the game is better. You know, there was a point
where it was not watchable. The players are better beyond
Keatland like. And so I'm worried. I am worried. And
I'm sure the players are going to say, well, we
can't earn these salaries. I am worried that this is
(29:50):
going to kill a lot of momentum. And in order
to ask what they're asking for, they had to have
five great years built up, not one and a half.
And so I think I think it's concerning and they
and they should they don't have I don't think they
have the leverage they think they have the players.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
No, no, they no, they do not. Uh, Fox and
YouTube reach a temporary deal.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Is it a football season length? Like, what's the length
of this disagreement?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, well, you know, who knows, who knows, but you
know that you know obviously with the cord cutting and
everything going on, you know, this is this is this
is like a very big deal. This is a very
big deal. I think that resolution in this world happens
(30:45):
sooner rather than later. So I don't think it's going
to be crazy. But you know, again, as people cut
the cords, YouTube is is so important. Not only like
you look at baseball and you see like you know,
baseball's come back, but like to my kids, that's comeback
because you can see baseball and baseball highlights on YouTube.
(31:08):
I have eleven year old twin boys and it is
all YouTube. All this the string to the string, whether
it's on the phone or the TV, and so so
the you know, the digital digital is just so important,
and if you're not there, you're people might not go
(31:30):
find you, Like they might just go watch Dude Perfect
all day long. You know, they just want to be entertained.
So there's definitely a I think a different attitude towards,
you know, holding out to digital because I think this
the younger generation yep, is not going to go find
(31:51):
you anywhere else. No, they'll just forget about you, yep.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Speaker 6 (33:26):
The news yesterday was Micah Parsons being spotted at DFW
Airport for a flight out of town to get a
second opinion on his back and the latest installment of
the Drip Drip, Drip of this Micah Parsons saga he
has to be on reporting this afternoon that the Cowboys,
for the first time, appear to be willing to listen
to trade offers for Parsons. No trade is imminent, but
(33:48):
they would like to resolve the situation in the next
few days, don't we all?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, Well, if there's no trade is imminent in the
next few days, this is just kind of leveraging to
get the deal done. I still don't buy it. I
still think he'll be playing for the cow Boys this
year at any future years.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
A former Cowboy who has talked about during this show,
Dion Sanders, and in another compartment, he was interviewed by
CBS Colorado, during which the following exchange occurred. Is there
anything about falsome about this stadium that that surprised you
that you didn't expect this.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Middle weed in the second quarter surprised the got mean
like every game, I'm like, dang, Like it seemed like
it's like a light up quarter, you know what I'm saying.
So is this the quarter that y'all chose? Like I'm saying,
it's a TV timeout. It never fails. And I'm like, wow,
what's going on? Because you know, I've never been had
there in my life. So that's that's kind of new
to me.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Fulsome field where the altitude isn't the only thing that's high.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, I mean, like it is legal there, it's a weird.
It's like it's a weird thing where you know, we
test our guys because it's illegal in Wisconsin and they
for a state institution. But you know, the NCAA doesn't
test anymore, so, I mean it would be really crazy,
(35:10):
is if one of his players was like, let me
get a rip.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
That's how it would be the end zone celebration of
all end zone celebration.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
We've we've found out about a lot of NFL players
who like smoke before games and smoke during halftime or
take an edible. It helps them with pain, it helps
them with whatever focus. I don't know, all right, So if.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
It's not illegal, let's say they do that the Colorado
weed equivalent of the Lambeau leap. I mean, would that
be like illegal? Would that be a fifteen yard penalty?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I'm just saying, so he's smelling it in the stadium, yeah,
deonce alway, Yeah, I thought they were still like laws
against like smoking in public and you know, you can't
smoke a cigarette and stands. Why would you be able
to smoke weed. They're not even looking to catch these
people whatever. No, it's still you don't want it wafting
into a kid's face and it's not good.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You ever been to a concert, Yeah, but that's a
This is a okay.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
College football games are family friendly affairs, at least they
should be in.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
The student section.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Oh god, well, I'm talking about wafting into a section
A twenty four something.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
I don't know. I'll tell you what. The first time
I really smell that stuff was actually in my college
radio station. Oh my goodness, gracious. I was like, what's
that smell? And they're like, ooh, that smell.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Can't you smell that smell?
Speaker 6 (36:26):
All right? Elsewhere? Highly regarded analyst Doris Burke has been
demoted from the NBA's lead television broadcast team. It will
now consist of Mike Breen, Richard Jefferson, and Tim Legler.
Burke did sign a new extension to continue as an analyst.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I love Doris, but that that team didn't work. It
just didn't. I'm happy for Legs. He's grinded there for
twenty years and he gets his shot. Hey, do you
guys see Jay Wright's not going to broadcasting him.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
That was my next item.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Go ahead, no, go ahead, you read it, Okay, Well,
I just did.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Want to make one further comment on that whole deal.
I mean, it's just never been the same and it's
probably not going to be the same for quite a while.
Since they got rid of the Breen, Mark Jackson Jeff
Van Gundy combo.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Well, it was only it was only one right, it
was it was only one year that they that they
went together.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I think you mean this this last one.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it wasn't good enough.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Former Villanova head coach Jay Wright announced this afternoon that
he is stepping back from full time broadcasting duties at
CBS and Turner to focus on his role as a
special assistant to the president of Villanova.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's crazy. I mean, it's one thing to turn down
a broadcasting role, but you were doing the national championship
game and he's really good. So big loss for CBS
and Turner doing the tournament.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
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there in press.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That was the I think the most interesting game tonight
is Nebraska Cincinnati. I do think Nebraska wins pretty big.
But you know, we've had expectations of Nebraska for many
years in the past and it hasn't come through. Just
as not Uh Mile and Mater. You get a chance
to see Wisconsin play tonight. College football is back, be
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(01:13):
should do. We should play a little don't call it
throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
All right, Jay Stu, what do you got? Bye?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I want
all the listeners and the contributors on the show to
think of what they were doing twenty one years ago,
this week, twenty one years ago, this week, the year
two thousand and four. My goodness, what was going on
in two thousand and four. I think we're in the
middle of two terms for George W. Bunch of fun stuff.
(01:57):
Bunch of fun stuff. But what did happen specific I
found this gem. I don't know if you remember this,
but on a list of most memorable Week one games
in the history of college football, this came up. Now
listen to the game and then listen to all the
fun names that are associated with it. So twenty one
years ago, Isaac LSU played Oregon State. Why is that significant? Well,
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LSU was coming off a national title that Nick Saban
just won for them. If you don't recall it, also
would eventually be Nick Saban's last year in LSU before
taking the Dolphins job. But what happened in between? They
played a humdinger Week one against Oregon State. Mike Riley
was the head coach at Oregon State. It went down
to the wire, so much so that it went into
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overtime and on the conversion attempt, Isaac Oregon State's kicker
Alex Serna missed the extra point in overtime. I remember
m LSU wins by one point. They came in a
thirteen point favorite on the list of most Memorable Week
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one games and the history of college football twenty one
days this weekend. Now, Doug, I told you this would
be Nick Saban's final year at LSU. Do we remember
anything else from that two thousand and four college football season?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
God, so many things. I'm trying to think where to start.
Almost here here with it.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The Iowa Hockeys were co Big Ten champions of the
Big Ten, sharing the title with Michigan.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
You have him and energy takes a mile, and then of.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Course, uh, actually we're talking about oh four, well Iowa.
You know, Iowa ended up beating Nick Saban the Capitol
One Bowl. But I think we're we always give this
whole time frame mixed up. That was Nick Saban's last
game at LSU. We lost Iowa and the Capitol One
Bowl and a Hail Mary touchdown. Anyway, we're getting off
topic here. The National champions we January fourth, two thousand
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and four. If we're going three into four, Oh no.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
We're going to do this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We don't get that. I thought we went.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
I thought we went three. Oh no, we do four?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Five?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yes, we would have been doing this a year or so.
I gotta give.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I know Dan always, Dan has to be here to
set the record straight.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
If this record has been set.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
No, we we goof it up we we we hear
it was the USC Trojans who pounded Oklahoma. But then
that that AP title was later removed, that that title
was stripped, wasn't it? I was here to the US
specialist you talk about this.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Let's let's get to what what was big and O
for Capital Idea?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay? What was big and O four?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like the National Championship Game?
Speaker 7 (04:47):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Who won the World Series four?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I will mean the Boston Red Sox breaking the streak.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean, listen, I love college football. College football essentially
starts today, although it started last week and whatever. But
two thousand and four was about one thing, the Red
Sox come back and then the Red Sox breaking the streak.
It wasn't just that they broke the curse of the Bambino.
They did so after trilling three games to none to
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the Yankees. And who stole second base to trigger the rally?
Dave Roberts, Jason Stewart's favorite computer printout manager.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I liked him in that spot, I really did.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Who, by the way, had been traded shockingly at the
trade deadline from the Dodgers by Menende's brother looked like
Paul D. Podesta at the trading deadline that season.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It was a killer trade.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Very good, very good.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
What were the Menendez brothers doing in two thousand and four, same.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Thing they were doing in a lot of other years recently.
I'll throw go ahead, Doug.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Who did they play in the World Series the Saint.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Louis Cardinals, as I recall, and they swept him? Yeah?
And didn't they film that movie with Jimmy Fallon and
Drew Barrymore on the field as the final out was going,
Gee fever, pitch, fever, pitch That's right. In other non
championship two thousand and four activities, but notable nonetheless, the
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National Hockey League's entire season of four to five was
canceled because of a lockout. I mean, we all know
that the World Series was canceled because of the strike
in nineteen ninety four, but it's still the first and
still only time that a professional a major professional sports
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entire season has been wiped out because of a workstoppage
two thousand and four to two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Two thousand and four was the famous NFL draft where
Eli Manning went to the Chargers but was going to
refuse to play for the Chargers. So the Chargers then
pulled off a draft day trade where Philip Rivers, who
was drafted fourth, was traded for Eli Manning. And here's
here's the big question coming to that. Who won that trade?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
The Giants got two Super Bowl wins. No, which one
will be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, Eli will be a Hall of Famer, but they're
both Hall of famer. I mean they'll both be Hall
of famers.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Is Philip Rivers a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, what did the
what did the the Chargers got Philip Rivers. They got
another third round pick uh that became Nate Cating. And
they also they also got Sean Merriman. That's all part
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of that. They got. That was the giants two thousand
and five first run. So I mean they got was
he rookie of the year. I mean, they got a
Hall of Fame quarterback, they got a Pro Bowl kicker
and a Rookie of the Year pass rusher. Like the
Chargers won the trade. The Giants won two Super Bowls. Great,
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he's a Eli's a great player. Chargers won that trade.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Go Chargas Go.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I just got a call on the hot line. This
is really very strange. So Doug just said, hands down,
the most memorable moment of two thousand and four was
the Red Sox. I just got a hot I just
got a call on the hot line from Janet Jackson's
right breast saying they were the most significant moment in
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two thousand and four. Justin Timberlake and the costume malfunction.
Heard run movies changed the way TV was presented. The
FCC came down, hardcore people had to apologize, and then
TV became that much more watered down network television. That
(09:03):
Cup was spring loaded.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Who again called you Janet Jackson's right breast.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Very impressive that that that cup was booby trapped. It
was spring loaded. I mean, I think popped off that
thing we had.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
In college basketball, Yukon was your national champion.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
They they beat Georgia Tech badly in the National champiship game.
But the the game was known for the semi final
game where Yukon ended up beating Duke, and then Duke
had a last second shot that took the game from
a four point game to one point game where a
ton of money changed hands.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
You guys remember this.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I believe it was Chris Douhan. Wow, did you don't
know about this?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Well I don't just don't remember that. But how about that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, so I think it was Chris Duhon in I
want to say so it was a The Douhon shot
was a one legged bank shot at the buzzer that
took the game to a one point game instead of four. Okay,
But it was the classic bad beat in the history
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of all bad beats because the spread was two or
two and a half.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Thought, you guys, Chris crosses the gamblers. Something else that
happened in two thousand and four and concluded in two
thousand and four. I think the single most controversial an
event filled season by any team in recent memory in
professional sports. And if you want to correct me if
(10:45):
I'm wrong, that's fine. But the Los Angeles Lakers that year.
It was in the middle of the Kobe Bryant legal case,
it was the last year of Phil Jackson's contract, Shaq
was rumored to be traded, Shack demanding an extension in
the preseason, and Shaq and Kobe having their worst possible
public feud the day before the regular season started, to
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the point where they almost got into a physical brawl
and the Lakers had to call Brian Shaw down from
Northern California to keep the peace. Karl Malone and Gary
Payton are in playing on one year contracts. They make
it to the NBA Finals with the point four Derek
fishershot in Round two against the Spurs. Kobe is going
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on private jets from pre trial hearings in Colorado to
play that night in Los Angeles multiple times. Yeah, and
they wind up losing in the NBA Finals to the
Pistons in five games. Still, I think that that was
the most controversial event filled single season with the most
drama of any team in recent professional sports history. V.
(11:51):
Three four Lakers.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Pretty good, Dilough, pretty good.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
It was right off the top of his head too.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What happened? We got to We haven't gotten to the
National Football League, have we?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Remember, Sam All, this is two thousand and four, which
means it's the two thousand and five playoffs. Okay, two
thousand and four, which is the two thousand and five.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Play You got it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, And that would be a man who is
now at the Helm at Chapel Bill Man at the
time heading up the New England Patriots where you're Super
Bowl thirty nine. Yep, you got it. I was reading
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the Roman numerals.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
The first of the back to backs or the second
of the dock to backs. No, that was the second
of back to backs.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, second of back to backs.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
They won the Ajanta Jackson Bowl. By the way, here's
an odd trivia question. Who was Washington's head coach in
the two thousand and four season.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Jim Moore Junior.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
The Washington Washington Now, sorry it was yeah, Sam, you
got it. It was Joe Gibbs. Believe it or don't
be in his second stint, they went six and ten
that year.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Do we say, who did I tell the Tim hasselback
story on that one? Guys?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
No, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, Timmy told me he was in the quarterback room
on that year and when they went to the offensive install,
Joe Gibbs broke out the old tape and the wide
receivers were in a three point stance. Oh boy, and
the guys are rolling. I was like, oh boy, we
may need to modernize this offense.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Tim Hasselback, Yeah, oh man, you got a Tim hasselback story,
so do what. So at some point Tim Hasselback came
in studio to do an interview on the Jim Rome Show,
and on the elevator ride up, I asked him, I'm like,
what kind of music you're listening to right now? And
his answer wasn't surprising at all. In fact, in the
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twenty one years since since, this song was the best
song in the world. I've said in the history of music,
there is not one song that gets old white people
on a dance floor faster than this song.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, yes, yes, chutcha.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
A.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I wish they would get back together. I just wish
they'd get back together.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
A h.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
A lot of hits, and.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's certainly the first time that I ever was introduced
to Outcast, But I guess they had been a big
thing for quite some time and they met it. They
made a ton of money in the business. I don't
know if it was before this song, after the song,
or both, but Outcast, hey, yeah, top the charts for
thirteen weeks in two thousand and four.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Long thirteen weeks. I don't like the end of the song,
and they had.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I mean, it's it's not my favorite Outcast song, but Outcasts?
Do you not like Outcasts at all?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I love No, it's just this song over and over
and over and over and over again. Songs, Yeah, but
sometimes they jump the Shark.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Highest grossing films Shrek two, Wow, Spider Man two, Meet
the Falkers, The Incredibles Great Movie, and The Passion of
the Christ.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Oh no kidding, that was two thousand and four, okay.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Jim cafeezl.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah. The Passion of the Christ.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
A Million Dollar Baby won the OSCAR for Best Picture.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Of the Great Movie.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Controversial film, sports movie.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And controversial about it the ending.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
You can spoil it, Shed assisted.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Suicide, Yeah, man was really controversial.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I mean, yeah, you know, that's pretty controversial.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I'm going to see that movie tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, but wait, wait where was it controversial?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Like there were no like well, so was it Clint Eastwood?
Wasn't Clint Eastwood? Like the boxing instructor and he had
to decide at the end he had to like pull
the plug on her because she was in a coma,
and of course, you know, yeah she wanted him to,
but obviously I know. But it also, like, let's not
forget like people like Jackie Orkian existed and he was
pretty controversial.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
So I heard he gave it two thumbs up. All right.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Is he dead at that point or in jail or
I don't even.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Know anyway that the movies that year also under the radar,
Two Good Ones, Mean Girls, and Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
By the way, two thousand and four classic Napoleon Dynamite
is still a great watch.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You know yet that I love them. It's so original.
It was made for like two hundred thousand dollars or
one hundred thousand dollars. John Hayter, I think I'm saying
his name right, the who played in Napoleon Dinamond. He
was only paid they shot the movie in three weeks
and he was only paid one thousand dollars total, So
I hope he got little royalties after.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, acting scale usually for independent movies.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yeah, but I mean so like even in two thousand
and four, that's like three hundred bucks a week. That's
not a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The actor that I think has gotten most work since
that movie, it didn't really spawn a bunch of careers
is Uncle Rico. He was recently in White Lotus Yep, yep.
But that character Uncle Rico, my gosh.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
We I mean Napoleon Dynamon comes up in sports discussions
all the time because of Uncle Rico, the washed up
high school quarterback who had delusions of grandeur. Well, if
the head coach would have put him in the game,
I mean you, he could throw a football them mountains
of mountains. So that was a nice sports tie. I think,
you know, people either loved that movie or they hate
that movie. There's really no in between.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I saw it in theaters.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I thought it was very original, very funny, very warm hearted.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Also making its debut in two thousand and four, Live
Strong Bracelets. Did anybody here wear Live Strong Bracelets?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I'm wearing the same style of like rubber band. I
don't know, live Strong style, but it's not Live Strong.
It says other things on it. But those were everywhere.
That was a showing of like you support cancer research.
What was it a dollar and that would go and
then it was like what two bucks a dollar and
it would go towards cancer research.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
But it was it was a Lance Armstrong thing.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean at the time he was
on top of the world with the US Postal Service.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Team, and wasn't that the great I mean, honestly, is
that the greatest downfall in this history of sports? I mean,
I'm like, it's either Tiger or him.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Right, Oh that's a good I think people welcome Tiger
back into you know, circles and the events and stuff,
and Lance is still trying to climb his way out
of that mess.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Oj wants a piece of this, Cora.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh yeah, sorry point, fair point.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I just got a text message. Fair Point, got a
text message.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You want to take a stab at it? So he said,
did he cut into this discussion?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
I think, OK, didn't die.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He just left this earth so he could look for
the real killers. Come on, where's my out? There, where's
my where's my rib shot? Thank you?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Quiet one?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Who just called you?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
J oh No, I got a text message from Big Mic.
He's literally, I think, as the crow flies. I think
he's probably three and a half feet from me. So
he sent me a text message. The most significant thing
that ever happened. That happened to me in two thousand
and four, as I started working at Fox Sports Radio.
All right, oh, twenty one years at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I just opened the blinds. I'm looking at Mike through
the blinds. He's flicking me off right now, Mic, twenty
one years anywhere is an awful long time. That's quite
the testimony.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Who knows? And by the way, two thousand and four,
congratulations Mike. It also marked the premieres of such shows
as Entourage and Desperate Housewives. And it's hard to convey
this to people who weren't around, but Desperate Housewives was
a huge sensation when at first premiere it was I.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Want to say it was one of the last over
the air network shows to just hit big.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Yeah. Maybe Lost came right around there. Yes, you're right,
it did.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yep, that Desperate Housewives show made a lot of women
just feel a warm inside and saucy and like, I
can do whatever I want. I can be a bad girl,
I can be a naughty lady and uh yeah, definitely
capture the attention of it.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I think the subtitle was what was it, Desperate Housewives?
Is that what it was called?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, Desperate Housewives? The subtitle why Women Hate Men. I
think every man cast on that show was in a
complete a hole.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Hmmm.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I think it was complicated.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I probably watched like three episodes of that.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I don't see that suba subheadline on there?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Unofficial?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Okay, your takeaway?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Oh geez? You know what else?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
What also happened in two thousand and four? What on
a relationship note? J Lo and Ben Affleck called off
their engagements and Britney Spears married Kevin federloon line?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, fed?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
I think did they share cave?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Do they share a kid together?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They do.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I haven't thought about FED in a long time. Benefer
benefit was the shortened benefit?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Do you want to you want to feel old? Kve
fed and Britney's kids are in their twenties.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Do you know it's the big social media social media
hit that year?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That was my Space? I never got onto the MySpace thing.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You didn't miss much.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It was cool for a while, right, I was Google Lunch, Gmail.
In four, Motorola had the Razor Phone. In O four,
the Nintendo DS came out as well as that little PSP.
There was something else that happened, oh iod Apple released
(22:31):
the iPod Mini. He made an iPod mini, sure mini. Yeah,
And the biggest trend in fashion were uggs. Sadly, I
do have some.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Oh, I hear the cozying comfortable.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And Da Vinci Code was the top the best hour
list I've read that that's probably the last book I read. Wow,
I'm kidding sort of. Uh that don't call it throwback Thursday.
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do you guys see Rushi Rice was a suspended for
(23:38):
six games? All right? Fleeing hit and run. It's about right.
I mean, this is one of those like public pressure,
sped this thing up, made it happen faster. Can't say
anyone could disagree with it, and that The only healthy
thing I can think of is for she Rice is
accepting his punishment. So let's move on. Right, There's no
(23:59):
real amount you could have suspended him, which is enough
for what he did. But they did click quick, quick enough,
decis enough, sped it up, got the process done. I
don't know makes it interesting for the Chargers taking on
the Chiefs. That's what a week from Friday, week from
tomorrow or is it two weeks from tomorrow? I get confused.
(24:19):
It's the Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports. Ready,
let's welcome in our good friend, Darren Ravel. He created
the Cottage Industry where you cover the business of sports,
and yesterday some breaking news where Bill Belichick and his
girlfriend they're trademarking phrases and words and in one such
(24:40):
I think he's a phrase or whatever jumps out in
people's attention. But Darren Ravel joins us here on the
Doug Gottlieb show d ROV. So how does it work
with how do you take a phrase like gold digger
and trade market?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Okay, so I should tell you that gold digger is
trade marked in about one hundred and fifty different categories.
No one to this point has just tended to put
it on jewelry, which is surprising. So they filed for
the intent to use that. So you have to There's
two things that you have to do. You have to
(25:17):
say what you're trademarking gold digger, and then what classification,
what category you are trademarking in. In this case it
was jewelry key chains. And then you say, okay, we
have an intent to use it, so we're actually going
to make jewelry and key chains. And then once you
can prove and show that you have made these and
(25:38):
you have sold these, even sold one, then you can
get it trademarked. So that's how it works. So, I mean,
I understand the idea of like, oh it's funny Jordan
Hudson and people called their gold Digger, you know, and
now now she's just you know, for the irony of
it all. By the way, it costs like seven hundred
bucks a trademark. So if she wants to do it
just as a joke and there's not really jewelry or whatever,
(26:01):
and she just wants to say, haha, well it's a
it's a good joke and it's cheap. But if she
really wants to do it, just be pretty amazing to
see it. North Carolina games, you know, are they going
to give the gold Digger chain to the cornerback when
he when he intercepts the football?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Dearra Bell, longtime sports business journalists, founder of a collect
media and kickstand cocktails. He joins us now on Fox
Sports Trade and the iHeartRadio app. What are some of
the other phrases and words that they're they're trying to trademark.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
So the craziest thing is, like in March and April,
they basically took all the things that were trademarked under
the Belichick era that that that the Patriots did right,
do your job and like a lot of these things
that were obviously tangential Belichick, and they file and they
(26:50):
filed it the same words and then in parentheses bills
the version and it's like what what do you do?
Like what are you doing? Like it's just one of
those things. This is an extension a trail of salty tears,
trail of salty tears. UH they had. This is just
an extension of what is going on with them, Like
(27:12):
what is happening here?
Speaker 7 (27:14):
What?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Why? Why? Why would you uh you know, want to
ruffle the feathers of the NFL and and Bob Kraft
like it just it just seems like she is controlling
him and she thinks this is a good idea or
prove that she, you know, is a business person. She
runs many of the so so tce UH which which
(27:39):
trademarked this is a company owned by Bill Belichick and
managed by Jordan Hudson. Like that's how it is. In
the when they file for UH the Department of Corporations
in the state, it says her name. It says her
name on a bunch of the real estate LLCs that
they've had, Like again, she the perception is it has
(28:00):
to be the reality now that she is definitely controlling him,
because obviously this is not the Bill Belichick that we
have come.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
To know, no, not even close. Kind of the opposites built, right,
it's kind of kind of the polar opposite. Hey hey
one more a business one. And again, I know you
broke this story WNBA lockout, which everybody says is like
October again, Like what how does that play out? I
(28:31):
feel like they had, you know, not having Caitlin Clark
around in the Olympics hurt the global reach, but then
there was some hope and then she's been hurt this year,
so the numbers haven't been as good. What happens with
the WNBA lockout?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I mean, you know, I remember in two thousand and four.
I can't believe it's twenty one years ago, Doug. I
remember in two thousand and four when Gary Bettman said,
now we're just going to shut it down for the year,
that's what we're going to do, and like and I'm like,
oh my god, that's he's not joking. And guess what
hockey is has is so much of a niche fit
(29:08):
and base that it's going to work. Like people are
going to come back and they're going to fix their system.
They're going to get the players under lower contracts, and
then people are just going to come back in the
same It's not going to be like like what happened
in ninety four with baseball, And sure enough, it happened
that way. And I think with the WNBA, you know,
(29:29):
they have come so far by the way, I think
the game is better. You know, there was a point
where it was not watchable. The players are better beyond
Keatland like. And so I'm worried. I am worried. And
I'm sure the players are going to say, well, we
can't earn these salaries. I am worried that this is
(29:50):
going to kill a lot of momentum. And in order
to ask what they're asking for, they had to have
five great years built up, not one and a half.
And so I think I think it's concerning and they
and they should they don't have I don't think they
have the leverage they think they have the players.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
No, no, they no, they do not. Uh, Fox and
YouTube reach a temporary deal.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Is it a football season length? Like, what's the length
of this disagreement?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, well, you know, who knows, who knows, but you
know that you know obviously with the cord cutting and
everything going on, you know, this is this is this
is like a very big deal. This is a very
big deal. I think that resolution in this world happens
(30:45):
sooner rather than later. So I don't think it's going
to be crazy. But you know, again, as people cut
the cords, YouTube is is so important. Not only like
you look at baseball and you see like you know,
baseball's come back, but like to my kids, that's comeback
because you can see baseball and baseball highlights on YouTube.
(31:08):
I have eleven year old twin boys and it is
all YouTube. All this the string to the string, whether
it's on the phone or the TV, and so so
the you know, the digital digital is just so important,
and if you're not there, you're people might not go
(31:30):
find you, Like they might just go watch Dude Perfect
all day long. You know, they just want to be entertained.
So there's definitely a I think a different attitude towards,
you know, holding out to digital because I think this
the younger generation yep, is not going to go find
(31:51):
you anywhere else. No, they'll just forget about you, yep.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yep. Darravell, longtime sports business guru, journalist, founder of collect
Media and Kicksten Cocktails. De you Rob your the best,
Thanks for joining us. Thanks doun all right, Darren Ravell
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(32:38):
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Speaker 6 (33:26):
The news yesterday was Micah Parsons being spotted at DFW
Airport for a flight out of town to get a
second opinion on his back and the latest installment of
the Drip Drip, Drip of this Micah Parsons saga he
has to be on reporting this afternoon that the Cowboys,
for the first time, appear to be willing to listen
to trade offers for Parsons. No trade is imminent, but
(33:48):
they would like to resolve the situation in the next
few days, don't we all?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, Well, if there's no trade is imminent in the
next few days, this is just kind of leveraging to
get the deal done. I still don't buy it. I
still think he'll be playing for the cow Boys this
year at any future years.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
A former Cowboy who has talked about during this show,
Dion Sanders, and in another compartment, he was interviewed by
CBS Colorado, during which the following exchange occurred. Is there
anything about falsome about this stadium that that surprised you
that you didn't expect this.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Middle weed in the second quarter surprised the got mean
like every game, I'm like, dang, Like it seemed like
it's like a light up quarter, you know what I'm saying.
So is this the quarter that y'all chose? Like I'm saying,
it's a TV timeout. It never fails. And I'm like, wow,
what's going on? Because you know, I've never been had
there in my life. So that's that's kind of new
to me.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Fulsome field where the altitude isn't the only thing that's high.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, I mean, like it is legal there, it's a weird.
It's like it's a weird thing where you know, we
test our guys because it's illegal in Wisconsin and they
for a state institution. But you know, the NCAA doesn't
test anymore, so, I mean it would be really crazy,
(35:10):
is if one of his players was like, let me
get a rip.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
That's how it would be the end zone celebration of
all end zone celebration.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
We've we've found out about a lot of NFL players
who like smoke before games and smoke during halftime or
take an edible. It helps them with pain, it helps
them with whatever focus. I don't know, all right, So if.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
It's not illegal, let's say they do that the Colorado
weed equivalent of the Lambeau leap. I mean, would that
be like illegal? Would that be a fifteen yard penalty?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I'm just saying, so he's smelling it in the stadium, yeah,
deonce alway, Yeah, I thought they were still like laws
against like smoking in public and you know, you can't
smoke a cigarette and stands. Why would you be able
to smoke weed. They're not even looking to catch these
people whatever. No, it's still you don't want it wafting
into a kid's face and it's not good.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You ever been to a concert, Yeah, but that's a
This is a okay.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
College football games are family friendly affairs, at least they
should be in.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
The student section.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Oh god, well, I'm talking about wafting into a section
A twenty four something.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
I don't know. I'll tell you what. The first time
I really smell that stuff was actually in my college
radio station. Oh my goodness, gracious. I was like, what's
that smell? And they're like, ooh, that smell.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Can't you smell that smell?
Speaker 6 (36:26):
All right? Elsewhere? Highly regarded analyst Doris Burke has been
demoted from the NBA's lead television broadcast team. It will
now consist of Mike Breen, Richard Jefferson, and Tim Legler.
Burke did sign a new extension to continue as an analyst.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I love Doris, but that that team didn't work. It
just didn't. I'm happy for Legs. He's grinded there for
twenty years and he gets his shot. Hey, do you
guys see Jay Wright's not going to broadcasting him.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
That was my next item.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Go ahead, no, go ahead, you read it, Okay, Well,
I just did.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Want to make one further comment on that whole deal.
I mean, it's just never been the same and it's
probably not going to be the same for quite a while.
Since they got rid of the Breen, Mark Jackson Jeff
Van Gundy combo.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Well, it was only it was only one right, it
was it was only one year that they that they
went together.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I think you mean this this last one.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it wasn't good enough.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Former Villanova head coach Jay Wright announced this afternoon that
he is stepping back from full time broadcasting duties at
CBS and Turner to focus on his role as a
special assistant to the president of Villanova.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's crazy. I mean, it's one thing to turn down
a broadcasting role, but you were doing the national championship
game and he's really good. So big loss for CBS
and Turner doing the tournament.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
And that is another edition of the press, get out
there in press.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That was the I think the most interesting game tonight
is Nebraska Cincinnati. I do think Nebraska wins pretty big.
But you know, we've had expectations of Nebraska for many
years in the past and it hasn't come through. Just
as not Uh Mile and Mater. You get a chance
to see Wisconsin play tonight. College football is back, be
even bigger games tomorrow. Check out the podcast. You can
(38:27):
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the Doug Gotlep Show podcast. Of course, you can check
us out on our YouTube page as well. My belief
these games early season, the haves and the have not,
Schools with money dominate. We'll see if it plays out
as such. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on
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