April 5, 2018 • 48 mins
Doug thinks Tiger Woods absolutely carries the sport of golf, but he’s not sure if he has enough to lift the sport into mainstream popularity. He also explains why Texans owner Bob McNair did the right thing by taking back his apology for his “inmates can’t run the prison” comments from a few months ago. Plus Viking general manager Rick Spielman joined the show to tell Doug what it took to land Kirk Cousins.
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This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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City of Angels. Welcome in. Hopefully you're having an absolutely
fantastic Thursday. We are keeping an eye on the Master's
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the tradition unlike any other. We'll talk some football with
Chris Sims from NBC Sports and Bleacher Report. He'll join us,
Hunter Mayhannah, who's on the PGA Tour, will join us,
not playing at the Masters, so he gives us his
sense of what has gone right and what appears to
be going wrong with There's there's fourteen clubs in your bag.
Tigger's got a problem with one of them. Uh that
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one club is is the driver, and uh, the big
dog is not exactly eating what the big dog should
be eating. Anyway, we got a bunch to get to.
There's obviously news from and Rick Spielman, who's the gentleman,
the gentle manager of the Minnesota Vikings. Of course they
landed their guy, Kirk Cousins. I want to ask him
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take us through that process. What was their sale like
as they were not the highest bidder Rick Spielman of
the Vikings joins us in the third and final hour
of the show. Kyrie Irving is out for the remainder
of the season and the postseason. That's the breaking news
in the NBA. Will break that down for you what
that changes with the Eastern Conference and um Bob McNair,
(01:28):
who is the owner of the Houston Texans. Basically, he
went demilovado today, didn't he? He said sorry, not sorry.
The only thing he's sorry for is saying he was
sorry when he's not sorry. We'll get to that upcoming. Well,
let's start with Tiger Woods, because it feels it feels
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like we're all just hoping we got our rosary beads.
We're wearing our we're wearing our our lucky underwear, right whatever,
you But there's there's a massive disc and I don't
know if disconnect is the there's a lot there are
there are a lot of you that can't remember when
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Tiger Woods was really awesome. Like you're told Tiger Woods
is awesome, but you don't really understand the Tiger Woods thing.
This is. It's it's a lot like trying to explain
people to Mike Tyson thing, because I think if you
ask a lot of people in their twenties, Mike Tyson,
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what do you remember, They're like, well, he bit off
some dude's ear, right, and he used to be like
the greatest heavyweight champion ever, when it's not technically yeah,
he's been off somebody. He been off part of vander
holla Field's ear. He was never the greatest heavyweight champion.
But you had to have kind of lived through it
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to understand it. Tiger is much the same, and and
Tiger trying to go Tiger two or three or whatever point.
Oh that this is there's a lot of people that
haven't don't remember the last time Tiger Woods won the Masters.
Last time Tiger Woods one of the Masters was two
thousand and five. I was gonna do that as kind
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of a trivia question. I did that to Ryan Music,
the producer of this show, and he was like two
thousand nine, Like, no, two thousand five five Music, you're twenty,
you were thirteen years old. What middle school were you?
Richardson middle school? Richardson middle school? Do you have any
recollection at all of Tiger Woods in two thousand five? Yeah,
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I mean I just remember watching it with my dad,
but nothing vividly sticks out. Dan Buyer, who's our resident
golf nick. You can hear him on Sunday mornings on
Fox Sports Radio. Dan probably remembers shot for shot two
thousand five. Uh, two thousand five Tiger Woods, right, I
mean you remember every single shot, every single lie, every
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single pot. Uh, not so much, but it was it
was a good year for Tiger. Okay, where were you
in two thousand five? I was? I was actually at
home because um, on the Saturday, I went to my
buddy's place to watch the round, and then on Sunday
I was home. And I meant more, where did you work?
What was I thought? The chip in? Where? Where was
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I for that? But yeah, I was in Madison, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, yep,
working radio there. I mean it's a long as right,
it's a long time ago, Like thirteen years ago was
a long time ago. And he's always been good at Augusta,
but he hadn't one since two thousand five. Like that's
a long ass time. That's long, And so it's it's
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trying to explain to people and then having them watch.
Now you're like you kind of get it, but you
don't totally get like I I explained you know, look,
you tried to explain to a kid like, well, we
used to do call collected, Like what do you call collect? Well,
it used to be payphones, Like what's the pay phone?
Like where you actually used to put you know, first
it was it was ten cents. On was litt a
kid that it was twenty cents? People freaked out when
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from tend of twenty. Then it was a quarter, which
seemed about right, and then it became multiple courts. Then
you're like, the hell with it. I'll just call collect
and then they'll call me back. You'd say the number
and then they would call your parents would call you back.
There's the famous one hundred one hundred, uh you know
call a t T which is like their own version
of collect, and the we had a baby. It's a boy, right,
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remember that. Um. Sometimes you have to tell stories and
give them proper context, like the Mike Tyson story, Like
Mike Tyson was a from nothing to something, but it
was it was more about the fact that he was
the scariest human being ever to be in a boxing
boxing rink, right, Like you went from an incredibly flamboyant
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champion in Muhammad Ali, who was polarizing because of his
political and religious beliefs, to Larry Holmes, who was uh
seemingly uh not terribly likable through very little fault of
his own. And then all of a sudden you had
Mike Tyson, who was just small, you know, he's compact,
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power packed and scary, and the fights were more about
the fact that he would come in with like a
towel that had a cut off space for his head,
and shorts and no socks and you know, black black
boxing shoes, and the things seemed to be over as
soon as the bell rang like that was that that
was the Tyson thing. And when you by the time
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we get to win, Tyson bit off Vander Holyfield's ear,
he got exposed as not being a well developed fighter.
We lost the three best years of his career, much
like Muhammad Ali lost the three best years of his
career through note fault of his own. Although Tyson's because
he got he was convicted of rape and so you
try and paint the accurate picture there. Tiger Woods was
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was the most incredibly dynamic and dominant golfer we have
ever seen. In addition to it wasn't just that he
brought golf to the mainstream. There was no time there
was no Nike golf and people often point out like, well,
you know what happened was he used Nike clubs and
that's the beginning of the end with his career until now, Like, okay,
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you might be true, but remember like all those swooshes
you see on a golf course, how many of you
have Nike golf shoes, how many you have Nike golf balls?
You buy the Chief Mojo's, you buy the expensive ones,
a Nike belt, Nike short Snike had Nike used everything
swoosh whatever I wear him like. He was so big
that Nike hadn't even dipped their toe into the golf ring,
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and they became the biggest apparel. Uh. There was more
Nike apparel than anything you've ever seen. So in trying
to kind of contextualize what Tiger Woods did to golf
to somebody who was like rhyme music a mass thirteen
at the time, I don't remember last time he won,
Like it was bigger than big, but that I guess
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it becomes two points of a downside. The downside becomes
if he spits up all over himself, continues to struggle
with the driver as he's part all these uh par five's.
That's what he used to That's what he used to dominate, right,
he used to score on the par fives. He'd be
he'd be ok on the part three's, occasional birdie on
the par four's, but it's the par fives and when
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he's if he's parring the par five, that's not good
for him to make the weekend. I can actually have
the opposite of the intended effect. People who are brought
to a TV screen to watch golf. They sit there
and the tune the like, why am I watching this?
He's not even gonna make the cut and plan a Sunday.
And the other part is if you need one guy
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to bring eyeballs back to a sport, well, then the
sport is never going to be one to which eyeball
stick on. It's simply about that one guy. Be sure
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Carrie Irving is
is out for the remainder of the regular and postseason,
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and so look he's he needs a second knee surgery.
This all goes back to the two thousand fifteen surgery.
Remember Game one NBA Finals, I think it was in regulation.
He hurts his knee and he uh, he actually had
his patela, had to have two screws put into it,
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and there's The team said that it was a bit
bacterial infection was discovered at the sight of the screws
when Irvin had his most recent surgery on March uh
to remove a tention wire in that knee, and that
Saturday's procedure would ensure no infection would remain in the knee.
The wire had been placed in his knee during the
same surgery. When the screws were inserted in two thousand fifteen,
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the Celtics said Urban's patela completely yield remained structurally sound. Urban,
of course, is expected to make a full recovery in
four to five months. That's my that's my favorite part
about sports. No one has ever had a surgery like
We have no idea if he'll be back from this one.
His leg could very well fall off in four to
five months, but he's expected to make a full recovery.
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No one couldn't I couldn't expect a bacterial infection at
the sight of some screws, Nor did I know that
at tension wire was even did you know attention wire
was in his knee to anybody know, like he's got
a tension wire in there? Yeah, it's I mean literally,
his knee was held together by a wire and too
a couple of screws, and he was to start the
season argue with the most dominant guard in the NBA, Like,
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that's crazy. I don't know what's crazier, the fact that
his knee was held together by attention wire and a
couple of screws, or the fact that he was the
best guard in the NBA when his knee was held
together by attention wire and a couple of screws. But
look at stinks. It stinks for the Celtics. Not that
they had true hope of getting to the NBA Finals,
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but they had a little bit of faint hope. Irvin
posted this on his Instagram page. The hardest thing to
do sometimes, except the uncontrollable things life throws, that you
can try to consistently learn, grow, prepare every day to
equip your mind, body, spirit the tools. UH have the
tools to deal with some of those things. But I
feel that when these moments arise, they give you a
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sense of unfulfillment simply because it puts some of your
professional journey and goals on on a brief hold. It's
simply a test of your perseverance and will, perseverance and
will to be present even in the wake of what's
going on. So look, uh, here's a guy who he's
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twenty six years old. He was averaging twenty four and
a half points a game, five assists, four rebounds. But
I'm not sure it really changed all that much Vegas.
Things have changed a lot. The Celtics odds in Westgate
went from twenty to one to eight to one to
win an NBA title, from nine to two to twenty
to one to in the Eastern Conference finals. And it's
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it's also one of those deals to which you're like,
you know, Lebron James had a lot of bad luck
this year. A trade that happened because of a bad
relationship with Kyrie Irving, a trade that didn't go well,
a second trade, you know, some injuries around him. Kevin
Love of course, got hurt before he came back. And
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then you know, Tyron LOEU. His health isn't good. He's
had a lot of bet But you know what, tell
me who else you're gonna pick in the East? Tell
h else you're gonna pick in the East. And I
don't think that. I think this is the CALVS. There's
a copy of a copy of a copy in in
terms of a team being good. Fox Sports Radio has
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within the I Heart Radio app. He just got done
playing Houston Houston Open. Hunter Mahan shot eight under that
did not win him the tournament. Uh, it's one of
those things. Um, I love there are there are just
you know, there's like a handful of golfers. It not
just because he went to Alama State. But good dude
on Twitter, good dude on radio, good dude on his website,
Hunter mahand dot com that I love to follow. He's
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played in the Masters. He'll give us some Masters breakdown here.
Hunter Mahan joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um,
having been out there, what's it like to is it?
How much different is it watching the Masters? Having played
in the Masters. Well, yeah, thanks for having me on
on Doug. It's it's really interesting watching it because you
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know so much about the course, you know so much
about the elevation that you don't see from TV. Um,
you know all the emotions that the players are feeling,
and the excitement and a drona unless you feel on
the first tea and playing twelve at thirteen fourteen kifteen.
I mean it's it's really interesting from a different perspective.
But um, it's a lot of fun too. You know,
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you get to see so much golf and and so
many different angles, but you don't see while you're playing. Um,
everybody says, you know, like when you're not when you're
you can't understand on TV. Just you know, the elevations,
the undulations of the green, all of all of that,
all of that considered. Um, it's it's the most prestigious,
right There's there's four Majors and the others obviously changed sites.
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But the Masters is that's the most prestigious golf tournament
in America. Fair, No, yeah, no question, no question. I
think you can ask all the players on tour and
I think August of Wind lead pretty heavily. Um in
most players eyes. You know, you've got, but you do
have the Open Championship for for a lot of players,
but for I would think Americans, North Americans a guest
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as you know, the one that want to win. What
were your thoughts coming into today on what we should
expect from Tiger Woods. Um? Kind of what I think
we saw. Um, excited, nervous. Um, probably can't wait to
get the number one. You know, kee Off, feel those
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feelings again. Um, he knows this place so well. Um.
Clearly he feels great about his game, and clearly he
has showed us that he is capable of winning tournaments again.
And and I think he's I think he's clearly from
what he said at the President Scope when he said
I'm not sure what my feature in golf holes to
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where he is right now, he's got to be super
as a golf fan and as players on tour were
really excited to see him play so well. And it's
going to help golf a lot to have him that
got the Masters. I think I think he's gonna play
a lot better. But from what I saw the last
couple of holes he piped in on seventeen, he piped
on a team. He had a couple of dirty opportunities. Um,
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he could have finished even or one under really easily.
But to be in the clubhouse that won over. Um.
I think he actually feels pretty good about it. Yeah,
because he couldn't he couldn't hear his driver for the first,
you know, three quarters of the day. And and look,
this is a course that's a lot more forgiving than
US opens, uh, than British opens, you know, you know
doesn't doesn't doesn't and pgs of course have been cranked
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up over the last couple of years. Um, but you know,
like if he sprays it like this at Shinnikock, he's
got no chance, whereas at Augusta you can still make
some saves and and and stay and stay close. That said, like,
look he had he had thirteen good clubs for most
of the day and he added that fourteenth club late.
Is that a fair fair assessment? Yeah, he didn't. You know,
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he didn't put himself. You don't have to drive it
great and a guest, but you have to drive it
well enough to put it. You put yourself in position
to attack the pin. And you look at the pins today,
they were really tough. I mean it's really hard to
see a lot of guys stick it close today. So
if you're not driving a well, um, you can't attack
these things and you can't make birdies. And you know,
you kind of saw that early in his round. He
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was just kind of hanging in there and hanging in
there and hanging in there and what it guess that
does though, it does give you a lot of purty
opportunities on the back nine, and he was able to
make a couple of birdies and really good ones and
to finish that one over right now with four under leading,
he's in a good spot and he did it without
scoring on the par five's right, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
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I mean the part fives are, I mean the course
this looks the condition to look perfect out here when
I'm seeing it, but scoring is really really difficult, and
we sawt Sergio I have a disaster on fifteen. I mean,
I know the part fives are they're doing not They're
not just normal part of fives. I mean they have
a lot of risk rewarding them. So you know, you
can go in there thinking Bertie, but you can leave
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it there with a double really easily. That's the voice
of hunter. Mayhanni joins us in the Doug Gottlips show
getting breaking down kind of the Master's all right, So
if you didn't see it, Uh, Sergio, who's defending champ.
He finally won a major, defending champ. He shot a
thirteen on the fifteen toll, put it in the drink
five times. Your worst hole as a pro was what
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my worst hole as a pro um? But there's um
worst hole as a prob? Yes, I would you know.
I can tell you, like the most embarrassing moment as
a pro. I remember going into the bridge stone and uh,
part five sixteen, got a downhill line, got a wet shot.
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It's kind of like a front tuck tan. It's kind
of where you you feel like you've got a down
and you've got to kind of lift it up in
the air, and I just it is so fat. It
like one hopped into the water, which is about fifty
yards in front of me. And I don't know if
that was my worst hole, but sure the most embarrassing
hole of my life. Did you ever shoot a third?
Did you ever shoot anything double dig? You know, double digit?
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I'm sure I have. I just can't recall a moment
like that where I'm hitting it over and over and
over again, the same shot into the water like that
is that was Tin Cup? I mean I haven't that
and the famous scene US open tin Cup where you know,
give me the ball, Romeo and he just keeps kind
of giving them given the ball, it's a tin Cup. No,
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I thought I was watching. It happened live, and I
thought I was on replay. I thought they were replaying
the shot a couple of times because I kind of
walked to when I came back, and then they showed
the score and where he's doing. And you're just like
you feel you as a pro, you feel that, you
know that feeling if you know what he's feeling, and
you're just like, cut away, let's just go to somebody else.
We know this is a disaster. We don't need to
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watch this anymore. Oh my gosh, it was. It was
really really amazing to see. It was azing over and
get it along, spun it back, get along, went it
back into just like, oh my gosh, please stop. Yeah,
a lot like Tin Cup. What's what's maybe more interesting?
He actually buried the next hole. Well, the pressure was
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kind of off after that because you know your tournament's over. Yeah,
that's a good point. Hunter Mahan joining us in the
Doug Gotlip Show. All right, So if not Tiger, I
think I think what golf needs is they need we
need Tiger to make the cut and to be around
on the weekend. And because I think what you're getting
at why p G A players are so excited was
it's going to bring attention to everybody else. There's this
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group of young guys that have other war worldly talent
right speed, Rory, Ricky, etcetera. If not Tiger, I've heard
a lot of people say Rory striking the ball just
better than everybody else. Is that the guy? I think
he's the favorite right now from what I've seen on TV.
He just hit in a beautiful swing on ten. He's
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had a great chance for Bertie. He's definitely looks like
swinging the best. He's making it look the easiest right now. Um,
Justin Thomas was playing great. I didn't get to see
too much of his round. Um, but Jordan's he's got
such a great instinct and he probably has the best
instinct and love of the masters of anyone there. And
he has a great feel for a guess you watched
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him with some of the putch and the shots he gets.
It seems like he's played there twenty times. He just
has that understanding of how to play the golf course.
So he's you can never count him out at Anagusta. Um.
But Hendrik Stenson right now the leader. He is one
of the best ball strikers on the planets. Um. So
I really like him leading this tournament right now because
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he hit it unlike really anybody else and he hit
it three on all day and he hit three with
the past three drivers. Um, Okay, you finished? Was it?
Was it eighth in two thousand and ten at the Masters.
That was your best finish. I think I had a
six to one of us. I mean it says it
says eighth on the on an internet when I looked
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it up this morning. So unless it changed, it's got
it wrong. But the internet kid can be wrong. But
my my question was, um I had when I was
when I was in summer league with the Lakers. Okay,
I remember every day I walk in and you walk in,
you'd say hi to the secretaries whatever you walk past.
You walk down this hallway and there's like a picture
of cream, this picture of magic, and this picture of
Worthy's a picture of George, Mike In and Wilt and
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Jerry West whenever. And for a long time, you just
you felt like somebody who's just visiting a place. And
then as he kind of got closer to closer to
when they were going to cut or keep guys for
vet camp, you started thinking like, well, maybe I maybe
I could wear that jersey once. Um. Do you remember
what that Saturday was like getting ready for your Sunday
at the Masters? Oh? For sure, for sure. I remember
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I got I got paired with fred Couples, Um, going
into Sunday and I saw that pArg I was so
excited because Freddie is just the best guy to play with,
and he's the best guy to play with at a
guest because he's he's a huge fan favorite at a
guest then, um, and he's just the most relaxed guy
in the world. Like whether it's a Tuesday at a guest,
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Tuesday in Houston or uh, you know, Sunday of a
guest that he's just the same all the time. And
so there's just relaxed nature just talking to him on
the first hole, the second holder hole, you know, going
into eleven keel and just gonna look at fred and say, hey, Fred,
you know how the Lakers playing? You know, what do
you think about this? And then he's gonna talking to
the school conversation and you're gonna have this little moment,
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this brevity of of relaxation and getting yourself out of
that moment as the fact that you're trying to win
the Masters and you can just relax and take a
couple of deep breast. So he was so great to
play with, and um, it's hard to do out a gossip,
but it's great to take a few moments and look
around and realize where you are and realize what you're
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playing for, and you realize you're in a really special place,
because it's easy to forget that. I remember standing on
top of fifteen, looking down on the green and looking
at the spectator of the patrons on the left and
the right, uh, the huge stamp sixteen. I just remember,
like this is just an incredible moment. I feel so
lucky to be here, and on Sunday afternoon, there's no
place you'd rather be. I'm not sure that Sergio has
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the same feelings about fifteen that you do, but I
do appreciate you. To appreciate you, Joins let's let's talk
next week. Maybe we can talk some of your Lakers
next week as well. Appreciate you join us, Man, We'll
talk soon. Does think so that's a hunter? Mayhan? Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Rick
Fielman joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show. Does that
mean that that we get all the great Vikings information
before anybody else gets the great Vikings information? Yeah? I
heard you. Like, my brother is going to do some
draft stuff for you guys. Yeah, we do a whole
draft show live from from Dallas. Ah. Well, he usually
gets some pretty good leads on things, so I pay
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attention to what he has to say. Take me, take
me through the process here. Because it's one thing to
acquire Kirk Cousins, who was the object of everybody's affection
in terms of a free agent quarterback, But then you
also had the uniqueness of having three quarterbacks. Right. You
had Sam who you had traded for trade a first
round pick four and had played great, but his knee
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just wouldn't hold up early in the year. By the
time he came back healthy, you had Case going and
then he had Teddy, who everybody went crazy for because
everybody likes him of you draft him as a first
round pick, and he had that catastrophic knee injury after
leading you guys to the playoffs. Like there was a
there was a lot there before you could ever even
get to thinking about going and making an offer for
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Kirk Cousins. How did your process begin when the season
ends in Philadelphia? How about what we wanted? Yeah, what
we wanted to do first was make sure we had
the got the offensive coordinator hired, and we hired John d.
Filippo after the Super Bowl. Then we sat down tried
to understand schematically how similar was it to what we
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were doing, any new changes he had, and then we
had him, myself, Coach Zimmer, George Peyton, Kevin Stefanski, Uh,
and Ryan Muttons, our director of pro scouting, sit down
and we started going through everything on Teddy and everything
on Sam and everything on Case, and then we started
evaluating the potential options outside and Kirk. So until we
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had the offensive coordinator signed Uh. Then then we knew
what direction. After we did our quarterback study, and that
took a whole weekend to get through everything the direction
we wanted to go. All right, so how did It's
it's really interesting Plant. We wanted to get an offensive
in your first how did de Filippo, how did that
change in terms or maybe how did that evolve your
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offense into what specifically you needed? I think just uh,
you know, he's going to be coach has ever wanted
to keep the continuity we had going because we drastically
improved on offense last year from where a year a
year ago, and he's going to have you know, some
of his tweaks to it and then just evaluate waiting
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each of the quarterback strengths and weaknesses. And we felt
after we went through everything, I mean, we would have
been just as happy to have any of our own
guys back if Kirk didn't work out, But we felt
that Kirk was such a unique opportunity out there and
a skill set that he has, uh should fit in
nice with what coach d Filippo wants to do. Rix Pielman,
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gentleal manager of the Minnesota Vikings, joined us in the
Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. It's been it's been
reported been reported that the Jets were offering somewhere nabor
to fifty to sixty million, guaranteed that you were not,
in fact the highest bidder. Um, So, so what's the
pitch If we're not offering you more money than the
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New York Jets, what's the pitch? I think where we're
at as a football club right now, I think, uh,
we have a pretty solid roster. I know, our defense
is played at a high level. I think, you know,
we have some intriguing weapons on the offensive side of
the ball with our receivers, with Kyle Rudolph at tight end,
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with Dlvin Cook coming back off a knee injury, who's
by the way, he's doing excellent and very excited to
see him go next year. And uh, you know, the
revamped offensive line. And we'll continue to look at things
as we go through the draft. But I think that
I think the culture that Ko Zimmer has established here
in that locker room, and then I think, you know,
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our ownership providing us all the recess resources necessary the
US Bank Stadium. Uh, we've just moved into a brand
new uh Tco Performance center for our training site. In
our new building here, we've been in it less than
a month and when someone walks in this building, it
just blows you away. So I think, you know, and
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the ownership giving us the resources to go out and
sign a Kirk Cousin has and go out and sign
a Sheldon Richardson. So and uh, some of the big
contracts we've already done and will continue to try to do,
extending some of our young guys as well. So it
starts with the ownership and what they provide, and then
I think it goes with the coaching, and then I
think it goes with the uh, the type of team
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we have right now. Rick Spielman, a gentlemanager of the Vikings,
joining us in the Doug Galley Show. I've seen videos
of the facility. Obviously everybody's seeing your facility that you
play in. It's unbelievable. Uh, and and that you know
kind of everybody, you know, the wils have doubled down
with with the new training center. Um. There were reports
that when he was visiting with you now the Jets
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were you know, offering crazy crazy did you take his
phone away? He asked him to turn off his phone,
like I thought. Yeah, His agent Mike McCartney did an
unbelievable job navigating such a high profile unrestricted free agent,
uh and in a quarterback that rarely gets out in
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the open market. And I'm you know, I think the
most important thing was h Kirk wanted to get into
a situation where he felt he had a chance to win,
where he felt comfortable in the community. Was going to
live in UM and you know it, felt comfortable with
the with the coaching staff, and like I said, the
facilities speak for itself. And you know, he may have
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been offered more money. I don't know that. I know
we paid him in a significant amount. So I don't
think he's going to be starving during the winter. He
should be fine, UM. But I think the most important
thing to him what was the opportunity to go out
and win. And that tells you what he's about, no,
no question that. There's also though something different now because
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he at the time signed the biggest contract in the
history of the sport right that that even though he
was still a fourth round pick and he had to
eventually beat out r G three like in d C.
And I think this is one of the things that
seems like it went wrong. There was they always viewed
him as a guy that should feel great that he
was a fourth round pick and that they you know,
he became a starting quarterback and they gave him, I
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don't know, close to fifty million dollars the last two
years as a franchise tag wars. He's like, look, I'm
a starting quarterback. I want to be treated as such.
I want to be paid as such. Now he is.
There's a level of expectation when you make that kind
of money, when case Keenum leads you to the NFC
championship game, have you guys discussed how you handle raised expectations,
not just because of what the team accomplished, because the
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amount of money that he's making next year. Well, I
think that's what makes him so unique. Uh, you know,
I don't think you know, like I said, he his
new contract solidifies him as one of the top quarterbacks
uh in the league. But also he knows, um, this
is going to be his home and hopefully his home
for the rest of his career. So he's vested here
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and uh. But that the thing that impressed us the
most of most about him was that that's not the
most important thing to him. The most important thing to
him is this team winning and whatever way he does that,
especially at his position, um that he's he's going to
do that. And it was incredible just the demeanor he
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had in this building and uh, as he walked around
and met everybody. I mean, he remembered our assistant equipment
guy because we coached him in a senior Bowl. When
he was coming out of the Senior Bowl, he went
up to Blake Bell, who we picked up. That was
a tight end. Yeah yeah, used be a quarterback. And
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he went up to him in the locker room, never
met him before and said, hey, weren't you a quarterback
at Oklahoma? I had to go back and look at
my notes to make sure that was true. Do you
remember the belldozer when you're in doh? Yeah, yeah, I
remember when he remembered the equipment guy stopping with that.
That one's that's made up. He hadn't pull up the
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video of him walking through our building and watch how
he approaches everybody and how much time that he took
to learn about our organization, and you know, you had
to study that. And if I had knew and he
was studying us before fore agency started, it would have
been as uh as tight uh waiting for the opportunity
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to talk to him. UM, I need as honest answer
as you can. Did you have a plan B? We
had a plan B, C and D always do so. UM,
but I knew once the negotiation period started and we
were going to be the first visit, I knew that
we usually, Um, if he's going to choose us to
come and visit first, that it's our job to go
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ahead and make sure that deal was sealed and make
sure he hasn't got on the plane, right, I mean,
that's that's a big thing, like, you know, make sure
he doesn't get on the plane without a commitment. Oh no,
I was actually down there and flew back with him,
So I was making sure he was going to get
on a plane with his wife and and Cooper, his son. Yeah.
You don't want to get McDaniels in the situation, right,
That's that's actually now that you don't want to get
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McDaniels in the We had a dog, We had a deal,
we thought, and then he went home and then you
you didn't You didn't have a deal. Um okay, so
uh what do you now? What do you get the guy?
That's it's like the old adage for for a birthday.
You know, what do you get the man or woman
who has everything? What do you get the team that
has everything? You guys had a ton of talent, plus
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you had Dalvin and other injuries that are coming back
to you. Now you get Sheldon Richardson and you get
you get the quarterback you want. Why even participate in
the NFL draft we still have uh, you know, I
want to still improve our roster and I think it'll
be a pretty strong draft. Um, we'll be able to
get some very good football players. You know, even when
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we're picking in the draft. Uh, I'd love to accumulate
some more picks so that can give us the ability
to move up and down and manipulate the draft board.
You know, last year, we moved up to get Cook
in the second round, which I thought was the first
round pick. So because we didn't have a first rounder,
then we moved up and to get elf Line and
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then I only had two picks on Saturday and ended
up with I think ten or eleventh total picks last year.
So our coaches do a great job developing this young talent.
And we had seven college free agents make this roster
last year, and you know, one of them ended up
being Adam Feeland who made it a couple of years ago.
So I know, if we get guys that fit our culture,
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that have the physical traits to play in the schemes
that we run, that this coaching staff uh is going
to develop these guys. How would you how would you
describe that there's a team I won't name the team's name,
but there's a team that has been been taking some
big name talent from elsewhere and just kind of loading
up and got a lot of guys in the last
year of a deal. I know the league talks. How
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would you describe that sort of plan in comparison to
your plan? Oh? Well, I will never talk about anyone's
else's building. And they're all very capable. I think, uh,
they all do a lot of research to make the
decisions they make. You know, everybody's philosophy is different on
how you're gonna win in this league. I know we
are pretty very follow our philosophy to a core. You know,
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we're always going to try to build through the draft,
and we're going to try to extend these guys as
we've developed them, and we you know, to uh to
make sure we keep our own. But there's a lot
of different ways of people have won in this league,
and uh so they'll they'll they'll been exciting two thousand
eighteen season for sure. Well listen, congrats on getting the
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object of your affection. And more than anything that's at
that sign of you could be a great college coach
as well, because once you get the kids on campus,
you got to get him to sign the line that
was dotted. Then you baby sat him as he went
back home and pick up his wife and kids. So
I really appreciate you joining us, Rick, and we know
we'll be getting all of that first information. Hint hint,
wing wing through through Chris on draft day. Don't listen
to them. I'm going to feed him a bunch of bs.
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So throws people off. Yeah, that's that's what all you
guys do, Like, oh, they're thinking about drafting. Who thanks,
don't be surprised we take a quarterback in the first round,
no question, that's not everybody's mock draft. Thanks Rick, All right,
thanks do Rick Spielman joining us on the on the
Doug got Lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Fox
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Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports radio dot
Com and within the I Heart Radio app. If you're woke,
this is gonna wake you. Houston Texans owner Bob McNair
told The Wall Street Journal that he regrets apologizing for
saying we can't have inmates run the prison, in reference
to player demonstration the protester in the national anthem. Wait what, yes,
(36:52):
that's what he said. He didn't say he apologized for
saying we can't have inmates run the prison. He also
didn't say he had apologized for ms for changing the phrase, which,
by the way, I think he actually changed the phrase
for the better. The phrases can't heaven rates run the asylum,
he staid, he changed it to prison. He said he
he feels bad. He's he regrets apologizing. He's doing the demilovado. Baby.
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I'm sorry, not sorry. I'm really not sorry. The main
thing I regret this is Bob McNair, owner of the Texans,
I didn't really have anything to apologize for. We're talking
about a number of things. We're also washing some of
our dirty linen, which you do internally, you can't do
that publicly. That's what I was addressing the relationship of
the owners and the league office Uh. The Sunday after
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McNair's comments were reported, the majority of the Texans players
took a need during the nation anthem and thefore their
road game against the Seahawks, and of course they were led. Uh.
They were led by their left tackle Dwayne Round and
Brown raised a fist before a two thousand sixteen game
was outspoken about mcneire's comments, calling them disrespectful. He said,
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quote at the time, this is Dwayne Brown. Remember he
was traded shortly after to the Seattle Seahawks. I think
it was ignorant. I think it was embarrassing. I think
it angered a lot of players, including myself. We put
bodies and minds on the line every time we step
in the field. Use the analogy of inmates in the prison.
That's disrespectful. That's how I feel about it. Brown, of course,
was traded the day after the game. McNair told the paper,
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The Wall Street Journal, that he met with the Texans
later that week to try and tell them the truth
and that Brown was being a troublemaker in the locker room.
Mcmary told the journal that there's no truth to the
Houston Chronicle report that Texans would not sign a player
who participated in the protest, saying Houston would sign any
player that helped their team. He also said the Texans
(38:53):
coaching staff looked at Colin Kaepernick in two thousands and seventeen,
but you didn't like the way through the ball. I look,
I didn't. I wasn't bothered by the inmates running the
asylum of the prison because you can't. And whether it's
the owners not being able they can't run the league
that that was in reference to Jerry Jones, or whether
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it's the players not being able to run a team.
They don't run the team, they don't make decisions the team,
or who was it earlier today who said it was?
Was it Chris Simms when he joined us earlier today?
Who said? Uh? And who wasn't joining Earliday? Who said?
Who said? If? Jerry Sloan said, if you if you
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allow the fans to make decisions, then soon you'll become one.
That's the all. That's all the same expression. It's like baby,
I'm sorry, I'm not sorry. It's pretty obvious that the
NFL owners have been able to get whatever data they
felt like they needed, whatever data they felt like they needed,
(39:58):
and they've assessed it they've analyzed it and they determined,
you know what, people didn't like that our players protested.
They just don't. And you can correlate it to here's
Bob McNair, old white guy donates the Trump Trump's inauguration.
You know, look, I can tell you Donald Trump said
(40:18):
something is an outright lie. Earlier today is in West Virginian.
Outright lie said something about millions of people in California
voted multiple times like, there's no he was outright lie.
But you know what I can't do. I can't do
a radio show on that. Do you know why? Because
that's not what you turn into Fox Sports Radio for.
Just not it's not And I think, honestly that's what
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that's what McNair, that's what some of the owners are
in fact saying, like, you may think that your feelings
matter and that your feeling should matter in the decisions
that this team makes, but the reality of it is
they don't. They don't. I'm not going to outwardly agree
with everything that Fox Sports Radio does or Fox Sports
Television does, but you know I'm not gonna do I
(41:08):
am not gonna make a statement about it on air,
because that's one a good way to get yourself fired
in two. This is bad business. It's just bad business.
And when you couple in it how divisive that politics
can be. Look Michael Jordan's people have often criticized Michael
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Jordan's for his statements, Hey Republican we or was His
mom asked him why he doesn't take a stance and
he's like, hey, Republicans buy shoes too, alluding to the
thought that he's a Democrat, and so people think like
Michael Jordan's saw Michael Jordan's like, no, I don't know.
Maybe he's just a business He understands that there are
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certain things I'm sure that are worthy of taking a
stand on. Hey, but there is a certain realm to
which you like, you're an entertainer, and you know it's
it's sometimes it's hard for fans to differentiate between the
entertainer and the human being. I don't think Bob McNair
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had anything to apologize for saying the inmates from the
asylum is a count or in inmates run the prison.
That's a commonly used expression. He changed the expression, but
I completely understand it. Whatever he's referring to, whether it's
a black man or white man, that doesn't matter. It
really doesn't matter. You may be offended, and I kind
of think that's what happened there was he was like, well,
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you're offended. I finally apologize for it. Sorry, just an expression,
and then you get done. You're like, why did I
apologize for something I had? No ill will like, I'll
give you. I'll give you an example. Um, Jalen Brunson
is going to win the National Player the other Wooden Award.
I think tomorrow is the awards given. I vote on
the Wooden Award. He's gonna win. He's gonna win the
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nat Nay Smith and the Wooden Award National Player of
the Year. So during the National Championship game, I tweeted
out that, hey, how crazy is it that had his
dad not been arrested and he was, he was acquitted
of charges. His dad had been arrested, like he might
end up at Temple. His dad went to Temple. Temple
wanted to hire his dad. The thought was it was
a package deal. Hired dad, get the sun. I believe
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that even the first championship to which he was arian,
Archie Dacino was the starting point guard. He started with him.
I don't I'm not surely win either of them with
another player who replaces him. That's how important he was
then obviously how important he is now. And they've been
Villanova foreign players like you're okay, you're you're casting shout
out shadow on his shine, like no, I'm not, and
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say anything about Jalen. And by the way, Rick is
coaching in the NBA. But that's the actual story of
what happened, the story of what happened, and it's the
story of it's no different than had U and l
V not blown up, Ed O'Bannon went, have ended up
at U c l A. And then when he went
to U C l A towards a CLIs first year.
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Otherwise he wouldn't have played ninety five, would have graduated
ninety four, had had umm teen. Cleeve has not been
in a car accident during his visit to Michigan, to
which they found out that Michigan's players had cars that
were purchased by a businessman in Detroit who was funneling
them money. Michigan's program went to blown up Michigan State
might not ever happened. So I was using kind of
(44:26):
the just the true interesting story that I don't know
that enough of people in main stream America knew. Fascinating
to me, what would happen with Villanova who's now They
won two championships in three years. That's dominance in this era,
and they might well win one next year or in
two years. That's how good that program is. Like, had
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that not happened, I don't know what. I don't know
if they're nearly as good. I think they're probably not.
He's the perfect college player, perfect, he's great, but he
might not be athlete enough to ever be an NBA
like a long time, like an NBA starter. So he
stayed for three years, got his degree, and helped be
part of two championship teams. So I just I sent
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j a note, Hey man, if if this, if any may,
if you didn't feel like it takes shine off his
star in any way, Sorry, sorry people take it that way,
but I understand, like Bob McNeair, sometimes people want to
freak out, they want to overreact, they want to be
offended by something that's not offensive. It's just odd. It's
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not offensive to say the inmates can't run the asylum
or the prison. It's an expression. Everybody's used it. It's
it's no different than the than Laron James being morally
offended by the idea that Nick Saban's gonna take his
platform which he created, right, I'll be damned, that's what
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he said. I'll be damned to somebody's gonna take my
platform that I created for people, like nobody's taking your platform.
You still have it. You took a name about that
that basically used barbershop talk, which is the oldest time, which,
by the way, is all we try and create on
TV barbershop talk and has been created on TV before
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and been made into a movie. So I'm not on
team McNair in terms of how he votes, but I'm
on team McNair and that you can absolutely in a
private setting, heck, and a public setting say it makes
don't run the asylum here, can't run and whatever he's
applying it to with these applying to owners, can't run
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the NFL that Roger Goodell, they have to have a commissioner.
I mean, that's so different than we talked about this yesterday,
didn't we music? In terms of boxing, Why is boxing
so dysfunctional because there is no leadership. You have the
inmates running the asylum. That's what you have right. Floyd
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Mayweather ran box into the ground, and you don't have
to like Dana White, but you know what, Dana White
helped make UFC into a four billion dollar valuation business,
got tired, Connor McGregor took his belts away, so you know,
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I mean, like, look, it's not a real sport, but
w W Vince McMahon like, they have leadership there, and
sometimes leadership makes decisions that that everybody else doesn't like.
And if you don't like it in a business, you
can work for another business. It's and life isn't always fair.
You don't always work for people that you love or
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you agree with politically, and oh yeah, by the way,
you can't always most places, you can't speak out politically,
no matter what your beliefs are. So I I understand,
I understand how it's perceived. You've got an old white
guy from Texas who donated to Trump saying inmates run
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the prison, and you know, everybody but what he's saying
is accurate. It is a commonly used expression, and by
apologizing for it, it it made it seem like it's made
it seem a lot more offensive than it actually was.
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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Chris Sims from NBC Sports and Bleacher Report. He'll join us,
Hunter Mayhannah, who's on the PGA Tour, will join us,
not playing at the Masters, so he gives us his
sense of what has gone right and what appears to
be going wrong with There's there's fourteen clubs in your bag.
Tigger's got a problem with one of them. Uh that
(00:45):
one club is is the driver, and uh, the big
dog is not exactly eating what the big dog should
be eating. Anyway, we got a bunch to get to.
There's obviously news from and Rick Spielman, who's the gentleman,
the gentle manager of the Minnesota Vikings. Of course they
landed their guy, Kirk Cousins. I want to ask him
(01:06):
take us through that process. What was their sale like
as they were not the highest bidder Rick Spielman of
the Vikings joins us in the third and final hour
of the show. Kyrie Irving is out for the remainder
of the season and the postseason. That's the breaking news
in the NBA. Will break that down for you what
that changes with the Eastern Conference and um Bob McNair,
(01:28):
who is the owner of the Houston Texans. Basically, he
went demilovado today, didn't he? He said sorry, not sorry.
The only thing he's sorry for is saying he was
sorry when he's not sorry. We'll get to that upcoming. Well,
let's start with Tiger Woods, because it feels it feels
(01:48):
like we're all just hoping we got our rosary beads.
We're wearing our we're wearing our our lucky underwear, right whatever,
you But there's there's a massive disc and I don't
know if disconnect is the there's a lot there are
there are a lot of you that can't remember when
(02:09):
Tiger Woods was really awesome. Like you're told Tiger Woods
is awesome, but you don't really understand the Tiger Woods thing.
This is. It's it's a lot like trying to explain
people to Mike Tyson thing, because I think if you
ask a lot of people in their twenties, Mike Tyson,
(02:31):
what do you remember, They're like, well, he bit off
some dude's ear, right, and he used to be like
the greatest heavyweight champion ever, when it's not technically yeah,
he's been off somebody. He been off part of vander
holla Field's ear. He was never the greatest heavyweight champion.
But you had to have kind of lived through it
(02:52):
to understand it. Tiger is much the same, and and
Tiger trying to go Tiger two or three or whatever point.
Oh that this is there's a lot of people that
haven't don't remember the last time Tiger Woods won the Masters.
Last time Tiger Woods one of the Masters was two
thousand and five. I was gonna do that as kind
(03:13):
of a trivia question. I did that to Ryan Music,
the producer of this show, and he was like two
thousand nine, Like, no, two thousand five five Music, you're twenty,
you were thirteen years old. What middle school were you?
Richardson middle school? Richardson middle school? Do you have any
recollection at all of Tiger Woods in two thousand five? Yeah,
(03:36):
I mean I just remember watching it with my dad,
but nothing vividly sticks out. Dan Buyer, who's our resident
golf nick. You can hear him on Sunday mornings on
Fox Sports Radio. Dan probably remembers shot for shot two
thousand five. Uh, two thousand five Tiger Woods, right, I
mean you remember every single shot, every single lie, every
(03:57):
single pot. Uh, not so much, but it was it
was a good year for Tiger. Okay, where were you
in two thousand five? I was? I was actually at
home because um, on the Saturday, I went to my
buddy's place to watch the round, and then on Sunday
I was home. And I meant more, where did you work?
What was I thought? The chip in? Where? Where was
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I for that? But yeah, I was in Madison, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, yep,
working radio there. I mean it's a long as right,
it's a long time ago, Like thirteen years ago was
a long time ago. And he's always been good at Augusta,
but he hadn't one since two thousand five. Like that's
a long ass time. That's long, And so it's it's
(04:41):
trying to explain to people and then having them watch.
Now you're like you kind of get it, but you
don't totally get like I I explained you know, look,
you tried to explain to a kid like, well, we
used to do call collected, Like what do you call collect? Well,
it used to be payphones, Like what's the pay phone?
Like where you actually used to put you know, first
it was it was ten cents. On was litt a
kid that it was twenty cents? People freaked out when
(05:01):
from tend of twenty. Then it was a quarter, which
seemed about right, and then it became multiple courts. Then
you're like, the hell with it. I'll just call collect
and then they'll call me back. You'd say the number
and then they would call your parents would call you back.
There's the famous one hundred one hundred, uh you know
call a t T which is like their own version
of collect, and the we had a baby. It's a boy, right,
(05:23):
remember that. Um. Sometimes you have to tell stories and
give them proper context, like the Mike Tyson story, Like
Mike Tyson was a from nothing to something, but it
was it was more about the fact that he was
the scariest human being ever to be in a boxing
boxing rink, right, Like you went from an incredibly flamboyant
(05:47):
champion in Muhammad Ali, who was polarizing because of his
political and religious beliefs, to Larry Holmes, who was uh
seemingly uh not terribly likable through very little fault of
his own. And then all of a sudden you had
Mike Tyson, who was just small, you know, he's compact,
(06:08):
power packed and scary, and the fights were more about
the fact that he would come in with like a
towel that had a cut off space for his head,
and shorts and no socks and you know, black black
boxing shoes, and the things seemed to be over as
soon as the bell rang like that was that that
was the Tyson thing. And when you by the time
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we get to win, Tyson bit off Vander Holyfield's ear,
he got exposed as not being a well developed fighter.
We lost the three best years of his career, much
like Muhammad Ali lost the three best years of his
career through note fault of his own. Although Tyson's because
he got he was convicted of rape and so you
try and paint the accurate picture there. Tiger Woods was
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was the most incredibly dynamic and dominant golfer we have
ever seen. In addition to it wasn't just that he
brought golf to the mainstream. There was no time there
was no Nike golf and people often point out like, well,
you know what happened was he used Nike clubs and
that's the beginning of the end with his career until now, Like, okay,
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you might be true, but remember like all those swooshes
you see on a golf course, how many of you
have Nike golf shoes, how many you have Nike golf balls?
You buy the Chief Mojo's, you buy the expensive ones,
a Nike belt, Nike short Snike had Nike used everything
swoosh whatever I wear him like. He was so big
that Nike hadn't even dipped their toe into the golf ring,
(07:34):
and they became the biggest apparel. Uh. There was more
Nike apparel than anything you've ever seen. So in trying
to kind of contextualize what Tiger Woods did to golf
to somebody who was like rhyme music a mass thirteen
at the time, I don't remember last time he won,
Like it was bigger than big, but that I guess
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it becomes two points of a downside. The downside becomes
if he spits up all over himself, continues to struggle
with the driver as he's part all these uh par five's.
That's what he used to That's what he used to dominate, right,
he used to score on the par fives. He'd be
he'd be ok on the part three's, occasional birdie on
the par four's, but it's the par fives and when
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he's if he's parring the par five, that's not good
for him to make the weekend. I can actually have
the opposite of the intended effect. People who are brought
to a TV screen to watch golf. They sit there
and the tune the like, why am I watching this?
He's not even gonna make the cut and plan a Sunday.
And the other part is if you need one guy
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to bring eyeballs back to a sport, well, then the
sport is never going to be one to which eyeball
stick on. It's simply about that one guy. Be sure
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Carrie Irving is
is out for the remainder of the regular and postseason,
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and so look he's he needs a second knee surgery.
This all goes back to the two thousand fifteen surgery.
Remember Game one NBA Finals, I think it was in regulation.
He hurts his knee and he uh, he actually had
his patela, had to have two screws put into it,
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and there's The team said that it was a bit
bacterial infection was discovered at the sight of the screws
when Irvin had his most recent surgery on March uh
to remove a tention wire in that knee, and that
Saturday's procedure would ensure no infection would remain in the knee.
The wire had been placed in his knee during the
same surgery. When the screws were inserted in two thousand fifteen,
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the Celtics said Urban's patela completely yield remained structurally sound. Urban,
of course, is expected to make a full recovery in
four to five months. That's my that's my favorite part
about sports. No one has ever had a surgery like
We have no idea if he'll be back from this one.
His leg could very well fall off in four to
five months, but he's expected to make a full recovery.
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No one couldn't I couldn't expect a bacterial infection at
the sight of some screws, Nor did I know that
at tension wire was even did you know attention wire
was in his knee to anybody know, like he's got
a tension wire in there? Yeah, it's I mean literally,
his knee was held together by a wire and too
a couple of screws, and he was to start the
season argue with the most dominant guard in the NBA, Like,
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that's crazy. I don't know what's crazier, the fact that
his knee was held together by attention wire and a
couple of screws, or the fact that he was the
best guard in the NBA when his knee was held
together by attention wire and a couple of screws. But
look at stinks. It stinks for the Celtics. Not that
they had true hope of getting to the NBA Finals,
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but they had a little bit of faint hope. Irvin
posted this on his Instagram page. The hardest thing to
do sometimes, except the uncontrollable things life throws, that you
can try to consistently learn, grow, prepare every day to
equip your mind, body, spirit the tools. UH have the
tools to deal with some of those things. But I
feel that when these moments arise, they give you a
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sense of unfulfillment simply because it puts some of your
professional journey and goals on on a brief hold. It's
simply a test of your perseverance and will, perseverance and
will to be present even in the wake of what's
going on. So look, uh, here's a guy who he's
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twenty six years old. He was averaging twenty four and
a half points a game, five assists, four rebounds. But
I'm not sure it really changed all that much Vegas.
Things have changed a lot. The Celtics odds in Westgate
went from twenty to one to eight to one to
win an NBA title, from nine to two to twenty
to one to in the Eastern Conference finals. And it's
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it's also one of those deals to which you're like,
you know, Lebron James had a lot of bad luck
this year. A trade that happened because of a bad
relationship with Kyrie Irving, a trade that didn't go well,
a second trade, you know, some injuries around him. Kevin
Love of course, got hurt before he came back. And
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then you know, Tyron LOEU. His health isn't good. He's
had a lot of bet But you know what, tell
me who else you're gonna pick in the East? Tell
h else you're gonna pick in the East. And I
don't think that. I think this is the CALVS. There's
a copy of a copy of a copy in in
terms of a team being good. Fox Sports Radio has
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(12:49):
within the I Heart Radio app. He just got done
playing Houston Houston Open. Hunter Mahan shot eight under that
did not win him the tournament. Uh, it's one of
those things. Um, I love there are there are just
you know, there's like a handful of golfers. It not
just because he went to Alama State. But good dude
on Twitter, good dude on radio, good dude on his website,
Hunter mahand dot com that I love to follow. He's
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played in the Masters. He'll give us some Masters breakdown here.
Hunter Mahan joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um,
having been out there, what's it like to is it?
How much different is it watching the Masters? Having played
in the Masters. Well, yeah, thanks for having me on
on Doug. It's it's really interesting watching it because you
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know so much about the course, you know so much
about the elevation that you don't see from TV. Um,
you know all the emotions that the players are feeling,
and the excitement and a drona unless you feel on
the first tea and playing twelve at thirteen fourteen kifteen.
I mean it's it's really interesting from a different perspective.
But um, it's a lot of fun too. You know,
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you get to see so much golf and and so
many different angles, but you don't see while you're playing. Um,
everybody says, you know, like when you're not when you're
you can't understand on TV. Just you know, the elevations,
the undulations of the green, all of all of that,
all of that considered. Um, it's it's the most prestigious,
right There's there's four Majors and the others obviously changed sites.
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But the Masters is that's the most prestigious golf tournament
in America. Fair, No, yeah, no question, no question. I
think you can ask all the players on tour and
I think August of Wind lead pretty heavily. Um in
most players eyes. You know, you've got, but you do
have the Open Championship for for a lot of players,
but for I would think Americans, North Americans a guest
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as you know, the one that want to win. What
were your thoughts coming into today on what we should
expect from Tiger Woods. Um? Kind of what I think
we saw. Um, excited, nervous. Um, probably can't wait to
get the number one. You know, kee Off, feel those
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feelings again. Um, he knows this place so well. Um.
Clearly he feels great about his game, and clearly he
has showed us that he is capable of winning tournaments again.
And and I think he's I think he's clearly from
what he said at the President Scope when he said
I'm not sure what my feature in golf holes to
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where he is right now, he's got to be super
as a golf fan and as players on tour were
really excited to see him play so well. And it's
going to help golf a lot to have him that
got the Masters. I think I think he's gonna play
a lot better. But from what I saw the last
couple of holes he piped in on seventeen, he piped
on a team. He had a couple of dirty opportunities. Um,
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he could have finished even or one under really easily.
But to be in the clubhouse that won over. Um.
I think he actually feels pretty good about it. Yeah,
because he couldn't he couldn't hear his driver for the first,
you know, three quarters of the day. And and look,
this is a course that's a lot more forgiving than
US opens, uh, than British opens, you know, you know
doesn't doesn't doesn't and pgs of course have been cranked
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up over the last couple of years. Um, but you know,
like if he sprays it like this at Shinnikock, he's
got no chance, whereas at Augusta you can still make
some saves and and and stay and stay close. That said, like,
look he had he had thirteen good clubs for most
of the day and he added that fourteenth club late.
Is that a fair fair assessment? Yeah, he didn't. You know,
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he didn't put himself. You don't have to drive it
great and a guest, but you have to drive it
well enough to put it. You put yourself in position
to attack the pin. And you look at the pins today,
they were really tough. I mean it's really hard to
see a lot of guys stick it close today. So
if you're not driving a well, um, you can't attack
these things and you can't make birdies. And you know,
you kind of saw that early in his round. He
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was just kind of hanging in there and hanging in
there and hanging in there and what it guess that
does though, it does give you a lot of purty
opportunities on the back nine, and he was able to
make a couple of birdies and really good ones and
to finish that one over right now with four under leading,
he's in a good spot and he did it without
scoring on the par five's right, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
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I mean the part fives are, I mean the course
this looks the condition to look perfect out here when
I'm seeing it, but scoring is really really difficult, and
we sawt Sergio I have a disaster on fifteen. I mean,
I know the part fives are they're doing not They're
not just normal part of fives. I mean they have
a lot of risk rewarding them. So you know, you
can go in there thinking Bertie, but you can leave
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it there with a double really easily. That's the voice
of hunter. Mayhanni joins us in the Doug Gottlips show
getting breaking down kind of the Master's all right, So
if you didn't see it, Uh, Sergio, who's defending champ.
He finally won a major, defending champ. He shot a
thirteen on the fifteen toll, put it in the drink
five times. Your worst hole as a pro was what
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my worst hole as a pro um? But there's um
worst hole as a prob? Yes, I would you know.
I can tell you, like the most embarrassing moment as
a pro. I remember going into the bridge stone and uh,
part five sixteen, got a downhill line, got a wet shot.
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It's kind of like a front tuck tan. It's kind
of where you you feel like you've got a down
and you've got to kind of lift it up in
the air, and I just it is so fat. It
like one hopped into the water, which is about fifty
yards in front of me. And I don't know if
that was my worst hole, but sure the most embarrassing
hole of my life. Did you ever shoot a third?
Did you ever shoot anything double dig? You know, double digit?
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I'm sure I have. I just can't recall a moment
like that where I'm hitting it over and over and
over again, the same shot into the water like that
is that was Tin Cup? I mean I haven't that
and the famous scene US open tin Cup where you know,
give me the ball, Romeo and he just keeps kind
of giving them given the ball, it's a tin Cup. No,
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I thought I was watching. It happened live, and I
thought I was on replay. I thought they were replaying
the shot a couple of times because I kind of
walked to when I came back, and then they showed
the score and where he's doing. And you're just like
you feel you as a pro, you feel that, you
know that feeling if you know what he's feeling, and
you're just like, cut away, let's just go to somebody else.
We know this is a disaster. We don't need to
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watch this anymore. Oh my gosh, it was. It was
really really amazing to see. It was azing over and
get it along, spun it back, get along, went it
back into just like, oh my gosh, please stop. Yeah,
a lot like Tin Cup. What's what's maybe more interesting?
He actually buried the next hole. Well, the pressure was
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kind of off after that because you know your tournament's over. Yeah,
that's a good point. Hunter Mahan joining us in the
Doug Gotlip Show. All right, So if not Tiger, I
think I think what golf needs is they need we
need Tiger to make the cut and to be around
on the weekend. And because I think what you're getting
at why p G A players are so excited was
it's going to bring attention to everybody else. There's this
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group of young guys that have other war worldly talent
right speed, Rory, Ricky, etcetera. If not Tiger, I've heard
a lot of people say Rory striking the ball just
better than everybody else. Is that the guy? I think
he's the favorite right now from what I've seen on TV.
He just hit in a beautiful swing on ten. He's
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had a great chance for Bertie. He's definitely looks like
swinging the best. He's making it look the easiest right now. Um,
Justin Thomas was playing great. I didn't get to see
too much of his round. Um, but Jordan's he's got
such a great instinct and he probably has the best
instinct and love of the masters of anyone there. And
he has a great feel for a guess you watched
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him with some of the putch and the shots he gets.
It seems like he's played there twenty times. He just
has that understanding of how to play the golf course.
So he's you can never count him out at Anagusta. Um.
But Hendrik Stenson right now the leader. He is one
of the best ball strikers on the planets. Um. So
I really like him leading this tournament right now because
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he hit it unlike really anybody else and he hit
it three on all day and he hit three with
the past three drivers. Um, Okay, you finished? Was it?
Was it eighth in two thousand and ten at the Masters.
That was your best finish. I think I had a
six to one of us. I mean it says it
says eighth on the on an internet when I looked
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it up this morning. So unless it changed, it's got
it wrong. But the internet kid can be wrong. But
my my question was, um I had when I was
when I was in summer league with the Lakers. Okay,
I remember every day I walk in and you walk in,
you'd say hi to the secretaries whatever you walk past.
You walk down this hallway and there's like a picture
of cream, this picture of magic, and this picture of
Worthy's a picture of George, Mike In and Wilt and
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Jerry West whenever. And for a long time, you just
you felt like somebody who's just visiting a place. And
then as he kind of got closer to closer to
when they were going to cut or keep guys for
vet camp, you started thinking like, well, maybe I maybe
I could wear that jersey once. Um. Do you remember
what that Saturday was like getting ready for your Sunday
at the Masters? Oh? For sure, for sure. I remember
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I got I got paired with fred Couples, Um, going
into Sunday and I saw that pArg I was so
excited because Freddie is just the best guy to play with,
and he's the best guy to play with at a
guest because he's he's a huge fan favorite at a
guest then, um, and he's just the most relaxed guy
in the world. Like whether it's a Tuesday at a guest,
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Tuesday in Houston or uh, you know, Sunday of a
guest that he's just the same all the time. And
so there's just relaxed nature just talking to him on
the first hole, the second holder hole, you know, going
into eleven keel and just gonna look at fred and say, hey, Fred,
you know how the Lakers playing? You know, what do
you think about this? And then he's gonna talking to
the school conversation and you're gonna have this little moment,
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this brevity of of relaxation and getting yourself out of
that moment as the fact that you're trying to win
the Masters and you can just relax and take a
couple of deep breast. So he was so great to
play with, and um, it's hard to do out a gossip,
but it's great to take a few moments and look
around and realize where you are and realize what you're
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playing for, and you realize you're in a really special place,
because it's easy to forget that. I remember standing on
top of fifteen, looking down on the green and looking
at the spectator of the patrons on the left and
the right, uh, the huge stamp sixteen. I just remember,
like this is just an incredible moment. I feel so
lucky to be here, and on Sunday afternoon, there's no
place you'd rather be. I'm not sure that Sergio has
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the same feelings about fifteen that you do, but I
do appreciate you. To appreciate you, Joins let's let's talk
next week. Maybe we can talk some of your Lakers
next week as well. Appreciate you join us, Man, We'll
talk soon. Does think so that's a hunter? Mayhan? Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Rick
Fielman joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show. Does that
mean that that we get all the great Vikings information
before anybody else gets the great Vikings information? Yeah? I
heard you. Like, my brother is going to do some
draft stuff for you guys. Yeah, we do a whole
draft show live from from Dallas. Ah. Well, he usually
gets some pretty good leads on things, so I pay
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attention to what he has to say. Take me, take
me through the process here. Because it's one thing to
acquire Kirk Cousins, who was the object of everybody's affection
in terms of a free agent quarterback, But then you
also had the uniqueness of having three quarterbacks. Right. You
had Sam who you had traded for trade a first
round pick four and had played great, but his knee
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just wouldn't hold up early in the year. By the
time he came back healthy, you had Case going and
then he had Teddy, who everybody went crazy for because
everybody likes him of you draft him as a first
round pick, and he had that catastrophic knee injury after
leading you guys to the playoffs. Like there was a
there was a lot there before you could ever even
get to thinking about going and making an offer for
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Kirk Cousins. How did your process begin when the season
ends in Philadelphia? How about what we wanted? Yeah, what
we wanted to do first was make sure we had
the got the offensive coordinator hired, and we hired John d.
Filippo after the Super Bowl. Then we sat down tried
to understand schematically how similar was it to what we
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were doing, any new changes he had, and then we
had him, myself, Coach Zimmer, George Peyton, Kevin Stefanski, Uh,
and Ryan Muttons, our director of pro scouting, sit down
and we started going through everything on Teddy and everything
on Sam and everything on Case, and then we started
evaluating the potential options outside and Kirk. So until we
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had the offensive coordinator signed Uh. Then then we knew
what direction. After we did our quarterback study, and that
took a whole weekend to get through everything the direction
we wanted to go. All right, so how did It's
it's really interesting Plant. We wanted to get an offensive
in your first how did de Filippo, how did that
change in terms or maybe how did that evolve your
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offense into what specifically you needed? I think just uh,
you know, he's going to be coach has ever wanted
to keep the continuity we had going because we drastically
improved on offense last year from where a year a
year ago, and he's going to have you know, some
of his tweaks to it and then just evaluate waiting
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each of the quarterback strengths and weaknesses. And we felt
after we went through everything, I mean, we would have
been just as happy to have any of our own
guys back if Kirk didn't work out, But we felt
that Kirk was such a unique opportunity out there and
a skill set that he has, uh should fit in
nice with what coach d Filippo wants to do. Rix Pielman,
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gentleal manager of the Minnesota Vikings, joined us in the
Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. It's been it's been
reported been reported that the Jets were offering somewhere nabor
to fifty to sixty million, guaranteed that you were not,
in fact the highest bidder. Um, So, so what's the
pitch If we're not offering you more money than the
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New York Jets, what's the pitch? I think where we're
at as a football club right now, I think, uh,
we have a pretty solid roster. I know, our defense
is played at a high level. I think, you know,
we have some intriguing weapons on the offensive side of
the ball with our receivers, with Kyle Rudolph at tight end,
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with Dlvin Cook coming back off a knee injury, who's
by the way, he's doing excellent and very excited to
see him go next year. And uh, you know, the
revamped offensive line. And we'll continue to look at things
as we go through the draft. But I think that
I think the culture that Ko Zimmer has established here
in that locker room, and then I think, you know,
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our ownership providing us all the recess resources necessary the
US Bank Stadium. Uh, we've just moved into a brand
new uh Tco Performance center for our training site. In
our new building here, we've been in it less than
a month and when someone walks in this building, it
just blows you away. So I think, you know, and
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the ownership giving us the resources to go out and
sign a Kirk Cousin has and go out and sign
a Sheldon Richardson. So and uh, some of the big
contracts we've already done and will continue to try to do,
extending some of our young guys as well. So it
starts with the ownership and what they provide, and then
I think it goes with the coaching, and then I
think it goes with the uh, the type of team
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we have right now. Rick Spielman, a gentlemanager of the Vikings,
joining us in the Doug Galley Show. I've seen videos
of the facility. Obviously everybody's seeing your facility that you
play in. It's unbelievable. Uh, and and that you know
kind of everybody, you know, the wils have doubled down
with with the new training center. Um. There were reports
that when he was visiting with you now the Jets
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were you know, offering crazy crazy did you take his
phone away? He asked him to turn off his phone,
like I thought. Yeah, His agent Mike McCartney did an
unbelievable job navigating such a high profile unrestricted free agent,
uh and in a quarterback that rarely gets out in
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the open market. And I'm you know, I think the
most important thing was h Kirk wanted to get into
a situation where he felt he had a chance to win,
where he felt comfortable in the community. Was going to
live in UM and you know it, felt comfortable with
the with the coaching staff, and like I said, the
facilities speak for itself. And you know, he may have
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been offered more money. I don't know that. I know
we paid him in a significant amount. So I don't
think he's going to be starving during the winter. He
should be fine, UM. But I think the most important
thing to him what was the opportunity to go out
and win. And that tells you what he's about, no,
no question that. There's also though something different now because
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he at the time signed the biggest contract in the
history of the sport right that that even though he
was still a fourth round pick and he had to
eventually beat out r G three like in d C.
And I think this is one of the things that
seems like it went wrong. There was they always viewed
him as a guy that should feel great that he
was a fourth round pick and that they you know,
he became a starting quarterback and they gave him, I
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don't know, close to fifty million dollars the last two
years as a franchise tag wars. He's like, look, I'm
a starting quarterback. I want to be treated as such.
I want to be paid as such. Now he is.
There's a level of expectation when you make that kind
of money, when case Keenum leads you to the NFC
championship game, have you guys discussed how you handle raised expectations,
not just because of what the team accomplished, because the
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amount of money that he's making next year. Well, I
think that's what makes him so unique. Uh, you know,
I don't think you know, like I said, he his
new contract solidifies him as one of the top quarterbacks
uh in the league. But also he knows, um, this
is going to be his home and hopefully his home
for the rest of his career. So he's vested here
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and uh. But that the thing that impressed us the
most of most about him was that that's not the
most important thing to him. The most important thing to
him is this team winning and whatever way he does that,
especially at his position, um that he's he's going to
do that. And it was incredible just the demeanor he
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had in this building and uh, as he walked around
and met everybody. I mean, he remembered our assistant equipment
guy because we coached him in a senior Bowl. When
he was coming out of the Senior Bowl, he went
up to Blake Bell, who we picked up. That was
a tight end. Yeah yeah, used be a quarterback. And
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he went up to him in the locker room, never
met him before and said, hey, weren't you a quarterback
at Oklahoma? I had to go back and look at
my notes to make sure that was true. Do you
remember the belldozer when you're in doh? Yeah, yeah, I
remember when he remembered the equipment guy stopping with that.
That one's that's made up. He hadn't pull up the
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video of him walking through our building and watch how
he approaches everybody and how much time that he took
to learn about our organization, and you know, you had
to study that. And if I had knew and he
was studying us before fore agency started, it would have
been as uh as tight uh waiting for the opportunity
(32:32):
to talk to him. UM, I need as honest answer
as you can. Did you have a plan B? We
had a plan B, C and D always do so. UM,
but I knew once the negotiation period started and we
were going to be the first visit, I knew that
we usually, Um, if he's going to choose us to
come and visit first, that it's our job to go
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ahead and make sure that deal was sealed and make
sure he hasn't got on the plane, right, I mean,
that's that's a big thing, like, you know, make sure
he doesn't get on the plane without a commitment. Oh no,
I was actually down there and flew back with him,
So I was making sure he was going to get
on a plane with his wife and and Cooper, his son. Yeah.
You don't want to get McDaniels in the situation, right,
That's that's actually now that you don't want to get
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McDaniels in the We had a dog, We had a deal,
we thought, and then he went home and then you
you didn't You didn't have a deal. Um okay, so
uh what do you now? What do you get the guy?
That's it's like the old adage for for a birthday.
You know, what do you get the man or woman
who has everything? What do you get the team that
has everything? You guys had a ton of talent, plus
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you had Dalvin and other injuries that are coming back
to you. Now you get Sheldon Richardson and you get
you get the quarterback you want. Why even participate in
the NFL draft we still have uh, you know, I
want to still improve our roster and I think it'll
be a pretty strong draft. Um, we'll be able to
get some very good football players. You know, even when
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we're picking in the draft. Uh, I'd love to accumulate
some more picks so that can give us the ability
to move up and down and manipulate the draft board.
You know, last year, we moved up to get Cook
in the second round, which I thought was the first
round pick. So because we didn't have a first rounder,
then we moved up and to get elf Line and
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then I only had two picks on Saturday and ended
up with I think ten or eleventh total picks last year.
So our coaches do a great job developing this young talent.
And we had seven college free agents make this roster
last year, and you know, one of them ended up
being Adam Feeland who made it a couple of years ago.
So I know, if we get guys that fit our culture,
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that have the physical traits to play in the schemes
that we run, that this coaching staff uh is going
to develop these guys. How would you how would you
describe that there's a team I won't name the team's name,
but there's a team that has been been taking some
big name talent from elsewhere and just kind of loading
up and got a lot of guys in the last
year of a deal. I know the league talks. How
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would you describe that sort of plan in comparison to
your plan? Oh? Well, I will never talk about anyone's
else's building. And they're all very capable. I think, uh,
they all do a lot of research to make the
decisions they make. You know, everybody's philosophy is different on
how you're gonna win in this league. I know we
are pretty very follow our philosophy to a core. You know,
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we're always going to try to build through the draft,
and we're going to try to extend these guys as
we've developed them, and we you know, to uh to
make sure we keep our own. But there's a lot
of different ways of people have won in this league,
and uh so they'll they'll they'll been exciting two thousand
eighteen season for sure. Well listen, congrats on getting the
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object of your affection. And more than anything that's at
that sign of you could be a great college coach
as well, because once you get the kids on campus,
you got to get him to sign the line that
was dotted. Then you baby sat him as he went
back home and pick up his wife and kids. So
I really appreciate you joining us, Rick, and we know
we'll be getting all of that first information. Hint hint,
wing wing through through Chris on draft day. Don't listen
to them. I'm going to feed him a bunch of bs.
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So throws people off. Yeah, that's that's what all you
guys do, Like, oh, they're thinking about drafting. Who thanks,
don't be surprised we take a quarterback in the first round,
no question, that's not everybody's mock draft. Thanks Rick, All right,
thanks do Rick Spielman joining us on the on the
Doug got Lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Fox
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Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports radio dot
Com and within the I Heart Radio app. If you're woke,
this is gonna wake you. Houston Texans owner Bob McNair
told The Wall Street Journal that he regrets apologizing for
saying we can't have inmates run the prison, in reference
to player demonstration the protester in the national anthem. Wait what, yes,
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that's what he said. He didn't say he apologized for
saying we can't have inmates run the prison. He also
didn't say he had apologized for ms for changing the phrase, which,
by the way, I think he actually changed the phrase
for the better. The phrases can't heaven rates run the asylum,
he staid, he changed it to prison. He said he
he feels bad. He's he regrets apologizing. He's doing the demilovado. Baby.
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I'm sorry, not sorry. I'm really not sorry. The main
thing I regret this is Bob McNair, owner of the Texans,
I didn't really have anything to apologize for. We're talking
about a number of things. We're also washing some of
our dirty linen, which you do internally, you can't do
that publicly. That's what I was addressing the relationship of
the owners and the league office Uh. The Sunday after
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McNair's comments were reported, the majority of the Texans players
took a need during the nation anthem and thefore their
road game against the Seahawks, and of course they were led. Uh.
They were led by their left tackle Dwayne Round and
Brown raised a fist before a two thousand sixteen game
was outspoken about mcneire's comments, calling them disrespectful. He said,
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quote at the time, this is Dwayne Brown. Remember he
was traded shortly after to the Seattle Seahawks. I think
it was ignorant. I think it was embarrassing. I think
it angered a lot of players, including myself. We put
bodies and minds on the line every time we step
in the field. Use the analogy of inmates in the prison.
That's disrespectful. That's how I feel about it. Brown, of course,
was traded the day after the game. McNair told the paper,
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The Wall Street Journal, that he met with the Texans
later that week to try and tell them the truth
and that Brown was being a troublemaker in the locker room.
Mcmary told the journal that there's no truth to the
Houston Chronicle report that Texans would not sign a player
who participated in the protest, saying Houston would sign any
player that helped their team. He also said the Texans
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coaching staff looked at Colin Kaepernick in two thousands and seventeen,
but you didn't like the way through the ball. I look,
I didn't. I wasn't bothered by the inmates running the
asylum of the prison because you can't. And whether it's
the owners not being able they can't run the league
that that was in reference to Jerry Jones, or whether
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it's the players not being able to run a team.
They don't run the team, they don't make decisions the team,
or who was it earlier today who said it was?
Was it Chris Simms when he joined us earlier today?
Who said? Uh? And who wasn't joining Earliday? Who said?
Who said? If? Jerry Sloan said, if you if you
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allow the fans to make decisions, then soon you'll become one.
That's the all. That's all the same expression. It's like baby,
I'm sorry, I'm not sorry. It's pretty obvious that the
NFL owners have been able to get whatever data they
felt like they needed, whatever data they felt like they needed,
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and they've assessed it they've analyzed it and they determined,
you know what, people didn't like that our players protested.
They just don't. And you can correlate it to here's
Bob McNair, old white guy donates the Trump Trump's inauguration.
You know, look, I can tell you Donald Trump said
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something is an outright lie. Earlier today is in West Virginian.
Outright lie said something about millions of people in California
voted multiple times like, there's no he was outright lie.
But you know what I can't do. I can't do
a radio show on that. Do you know why? Because
that's not what you turn into Fox Sports Radio for.
Just not it's not And I think, honestly that's what
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that's what McNair, that's what some of the owners are
in fact saying, like, you may think that your feelings
matter and that your feeling should matter in the decisions
that this team makes, but the reality of it is
they don't. They don't. I'm not going to outwardly agree
with everything that Fox Sports Radio does or Fox Sports
Television does, but you know I'm not gonna do I
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am not gonna make a statement about it on air,
because that's one a good way to get yourself fired
in two. This is bad business. It's just bad business.
And when you couple in it how divisive that politics
can be. Look Michael Jordan's people have often criticized Michael
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Jordan's for his statements, Hey Republican we or was His
mom asked him why he doesn't take a stance and
he's like, hey, Republicans buy shoes too, alluding to the
thought that he's a Democrat, and so people think like
Michael Jordan's saw Michael Jordan's like, no, I don't know.
Maybe he's just a business He understands that there are
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certain things I'm sure that are worthy of taking a
stand on. Hey, but there is a certain realm to
which you like, you're an entertainer, and you know it's
it's sometimes it's hard for fans to differentiate between the
entertainer and the human being. I don't think Bob McNair
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had anything to apologize for saying the inmates from the
asylum is a count or in inmates run the prison.
That's a commonly used expression. He changed the expression, but
I completely understand it. Whatever he's referring to, whether it's
a black man or white man, that doesn't matter. It
really doesn't matter. You may be offended, and I kind
of think that's what happened there was he was like, well,
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you're offended. I finally apologize for it. Sorry, just an expression,
and then you get done. You're like, why did I
apologize for something I had? No ill will like, I'll
give you. I'll give you an example. Um, Jalen Brunson
is going to win the National Player the other Wooden Award.
I think tomorrow is the awards given. I vote on
the Wooden Award. He's gonna win. He's gonna win the
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nat Nay Smith and the Wooden Award National Player of
the Year. So during the National Championship game, I tweeted
out that, hey, how crazy is it that had his
dad not been arrested and he was, he was acquitted
of charges. His dad had been arrested, like he might
end up at Temple. His dad went to Temple. Temple
wanted to hire his dad. The thought was it was
a package deal. Hired dad, get the sun. I believe
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that even the first championship to which he was arian,
Archie Dacino was the starting point guard. He started with him.
I don't I'm not surely win either of them with
another player who replaces him. That's how important he was
then obviously how important he is now. And they've been
Villanova foreign players like you're okay, you're you're casting shout
out shadow on his shine, like no, I'm not, and
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say anything about Jalen. And by the way, Rick is
coaching in the NBA. But that's the actual story of
what happened, the story of what happened, and it's the
story of it's no different than had U and l
V not blown up, Ed O'Bannon went, have ended up
at U c l A. And then when he went
to U C l A towards a CLIs first year.
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Otherwise he wouldn't have played ninety five, would have graduated
ninety four, had had umm teen. Cleeve has not been
in a car accident during his visit to Michigan, to
which they found out that Michigan's players had cars that
were purchased by a businessman in Detroit who was funneling
them money. Michigan's program went to blown up Michigan State
might not ever happened. So I was using kind of
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the just the true interesting story that I don't know
that enough of people in main stream America knew. Fascinating
to me, what would happen with Villanova who's now They
won two championships in three years. That's dominance in this era,
and they might well win one next year or in
two years. That's how good that program is. Like, had
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that not happened, I don't know what. I don't know
if they're nearly as good. I think they're probably not.
He's the perfect college player, perfect, he's great, but he
might not be athlete enough to ever be an NBA
like a long time, like an NBA starter. So he
stayed for three years, got his degree, and helped be
part of two championship teams. So I just I sent
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j a note, Hey man, if if this, if any may,
if you didn't feel like it takes shine off his
star in any way, Sorry, sorry people take it that way,
but I understand, like Bob McNeair, sometimes people want to
freak out, they want to overreact, they want to be
offended by something that's not offensive. It's just odd. It's
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not offensive to say the inmates can't run the asylum
or the prison. It's an expression. Everybody's used it. It's
it's no different than the than Laron James being morally
offended by the idea that Nick Saban's gonna take his
platform which he created, right, I'll be damned, that's what
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he said. I'll be damned to somebody's gonna take my
platform that I created for people, like nobody's taking your platform.
You still have it. You took a name about that
that basically used barbershop talk, which is the oldest time, which,
by the way, is all we try and create on
TV barbershop talk and has been created on TV before
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and been made into a movie. So I'm not on
team McNair in terms of how he votes, but I'm
on team McNair and that you can absolutely in a
private setting, heck, and a public setting say it makes
don't run the asylum here, can't run and whatever he's
applying it to with these applying to owners, can't run
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the NFL that Roger Goodell, they have to have a commissioner.
I mean, that's so different than we talked about this yesterday,
didn't we music? In terms of boxing, Why is boxing
so dysfunctional because there is no leadership. You have the
inmates running the asylum. That's what you have right. Floyd
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Mayweather ran box into the ground, and you don't have
to like Dana White, but you know what, Dana White
helped make UFC into a four billion dollar valuation business,
got tired, Connor McGregor took his belts away, so you know,
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I mean, like, look, it's not a real sport, but
w W Vince McMahon like, they have leadership there, and
sometimes leadership makes decisions that that everybody else doesn't like.
And if you don't like it in a business, you
can work for another business. It's and life isn't always fair.
You don't always work for people that you love or
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you agree with politically, and oh yeah, by the way,
you can't always most places, you can't speak out politically,
no matter what your beliefs are. So I I understand,
I understand how it's perceived. You've got an old white
guy from Texas who donated to Trump saying inmates run
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the prison, and you know, everybody but what he's saying
is accurate. It is a commonly used expression, and by
apologizing for it, it it made it seem like it's made
it seem a lot more offensive than it actually was.
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